#3D printing

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umbral edge
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im going insane

umbral edge
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Done with petg after this

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Cuz FUCK

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This shit sucks

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I have to print so slow

whole wind
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least angry petg user

umbral edge
whole wind
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yup

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warp central

umbral edge
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my silly self designed a time constrained thing

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using this

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i have been going nonstop for weeks

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on the plus side

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i havent seen a material CA glue bonds better to

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it like

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SEEPS in so strongly

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rips off chunks if you try to seperate

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really good

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and having it look good is so hard

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cuz its transparent

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ive had to do shit like this so often now cuz blegh

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i need a new filament after this

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probs going back to pla lol

errant fern
heady tundra
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it dont work that way 💔

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new york is fucking silly

errant fern
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They are consistent in being a shitshow at least

heady tundra
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true

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i love how we have over 300 million guns, and theyre trying to treat 438 "ghost guns" per year as a public safety issue

errant fern
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You see the problem is that it's going in the hands of people who can actually build stuff instead of the local crackheads

heady tundra
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problem?

queen coral
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The former are always more dangerous in the long run, the latter burn out quick. Whomever can endure the long game are considered much more threatening to governments and regulators.

elfin notch
umbral edge
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With like

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1000h of printing

elfin notch
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that would do it

umbral edge
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It would help a lot

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Also get a steel hotend

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Nozzle*

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I've heard those help

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With the filament sticking

umbral edge
umbral edge
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I fucked up lol

heady tundra
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does anyone know the 3d filament (or something that has similar enough characteristics) that bsb uses for the custom facial interfaces?

whole wind
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I just bought this roll since people seemed to have good reception with the bambulab A1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VDP2S3P?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

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I'll let you know how it feels when I make mine

heady tundra
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ah okays

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i was thinking something with

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much lower Shore hardness

umbral edge
heady tundra
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ehhh in my (limited) experience, using harder TPUs and trying to compensate with a lower infil doesnt work too well

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you end just feeling the infil pattern through the wall

umbral edge
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did you do a gradiated infil?

heady tundra
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i dont remember

umbral edge
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have it be high density towards your face, with like 3-4 top layers, then adjust the ramp of it

heady tundra
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hm

umbral edge
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also BS doesnt have any info released on manufacturing process of the facial interface afaik

whole wind
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You could definitely go with something less hard but in my experience tpu has a tendency to be a nightmare to work with when it's comfortably squishy.

heady tundra
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rip

umbral edge
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its defo not 3d printed

heady tundra
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fair

umbral edge
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its a molded foam

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cnc milled 100% as you can see the tool lines

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but i think they use some kinda recycleable mold material for it

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that they can break down and remelt

umbral edge
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just increased the flow to 115%

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prints are literally perfect now

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might retry using the silk pla

umbral edge
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finished the project!

whole wind
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ayy lookin good

whole wind
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Finally got it working to the point where it doesn't take 4 hours to load!

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It worked! Now to see if I can print it.

whole wind
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I am pleased to report that it is a perfect fit right off the bat. Even with just straight up pla it's surprisingly comfy

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Can't wait for the tpu to come in the mail

heady tundra
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oooo

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hell yeah :3

umbral edge
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I've discovered the downside to hairspray as a bed treatment

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This took 15 minutes to get off the bed

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If you put too many layers of it, it gets perfectly smooth

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And so it's a perfect suction

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Combined with the over extruded first layer

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It just

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Will not release

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Lol

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Also accidentally printed this .2mm in the air

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Looks odd

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But goes to show how good hairspray is lok

whole wind
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And thats why I got garolite

umbral edge
whole wind
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3D printing surface for print beds. Basically the same material used to make circuit boards.

umbral edge
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I use glass cuz my bed uneven asf

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Bowl

whole wind
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It has micro pores in the surface that give extra grip and contract slightly when it cools. That way prints grip on really tightly while printing and pop off with the slightest touch when cooled down.

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I had one a few years back and it worked amazingly well. No more hairspray or glue sticks neccessary

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I'm sure more manufacturers must have caught on to it by now and made precut sheets for printers by now

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back then I had to order a 2 foot square sheet and cut it to fit the bed

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ah found the video

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Even if you only print PLA I highly recommend giving G10, otherwise known as FR4 or Garolite a go. I've been testing this cheap print surface on a range of materials and it's quite impressive indeed!

Join the Maker's Muse Community - https://www.makersmuse.com/maker-s-muse-community

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▶ Play video
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bit old but it still holds up

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Time for some extreme ventilation

pine spire
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why is it spiral

heady tundra
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anti spiral

umbral edge
whole wind
# pine spire

Got a screenshot of the sliced model? Night be able to see what it was trying to do from that

vast hill
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I mean, it kinda just looks like the filament isn't sticking to itself, which usually means either wrong temperature or it needs to be dried...

umbral edge
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It also looks overextruded

vast hill
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I mean, he's not getting ANY squish on that top layer

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So hard to say if it's over/under extruding when there could be thermal or physical problems

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Honestly it's probably just a case of printing too cold if I had to guess

umbral edge
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Maybe
I tend towards printing too hot so my issues are always more in aesthetics and overhangs lol

vast hill
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Printing too hot at least has some aspects of practicality 🤣👍

umbral edge
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So I get super strong parts

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:3

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And still have it within tolerances

vast hill
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Can print faster that way too 🤣

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You DO risk clogs more, but it's manageable

umbral edge
vast hill
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Fair 😂

umbral edge
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The point is to overflow a bit either way

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I made rings that are 5mm thick, about 30mm across

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And they could support my weight

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On the weak side

umbral edge
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making a neat lil topo map of kilimanjaro :3

heady tundra
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climb to the top when it's done

umbral edge
elfin notch
pine spire
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found an abs printer what do i print

winter fractal
winter fractal
heady tundra
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my gas oven goes down to 100F

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PLA glass transition point is like 140-150F

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and i need to dehydrate this shit..

vast hill
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And ruin your oven

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Go to a thrift store and buy a food dehydrator if you want to save money, or buy a proper filament dryer.

heady tundra
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lame

umbral edge
# heady tundra my gas oven goes down to 100F

Does it actually do 100 stable tho?
Use a thermometer to measure
Either way, best free method is just using your bed lol, take the box Filament came in, rip half of it off so it's just a lid basically, poke a hole in the top of it, then put the spool on the bed, cover with box, set bed to whatever recc temp the filament has for dehydration, wait 8 hours

vast hill
umbral edge
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I gots a gas stove that heats up a heat pipe which is routed into the cooking area

heady tundra
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uhh I see an open flame at the bottom of it

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it's super old

pine spire
whole wind
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Forg!

pine spire
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59 minutes, 0.6 nozzle, 0.3 layer height, petg
this is reasonable right

winter fractal
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Definitely could use some tuning but time is alright

winter fractal
umbral edge
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.3 with a .6 nozzle is CHONKY

pine spire
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i like em big

umbral edge
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That's a toothed worm gear not a screw at that point

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If it works for you then nice but I could never lol

pine spire
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ive found its just about the bare minimum for the mostly function over form prints i do

i ran out of the cyan stuff, unfortunately ive still got a couple rolls, each less than 200 grams, of old wet petg that i absolutely cannot be arsed to stick in a dryer

umbral edge
pine spire
pine spire
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pla+, did actually bother with drying the roll, only 3 hours though, switched to 0.2 layers
boy did i cook with this model

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knife thingamabob

umbral edge
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Bit the bullet and bought the centauri carbon

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When I get it I'll tell y'all how it is

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I got the fbt bundle cuz it's a good deal

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They shipped the 2 spools and the anti vibration feet already 💀

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It'll be a couple months before I get it lol

whole wind
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Took forever but I made a thing!

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7030229

Thingiverse

This is an enclosure I designed for the V2 USB Hub that Matt in the Bigscreen Discord created. I do not claim any rights to the design of the USB hub itself or the Bigscreen Beyond. I only made the case to go around it.Please bear in mind I created this by pretty much eyeballing all the dimensions without actually having the Hub or the Audio str...

vernal ginkgo
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Had the first accessories arrive for it already, I’m still awaiting for the batch of cc to ahip

woeful parcel
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Ewwww feet

winter fractal
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I'm going to need a new room for these damn things soon

umbral edge
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Fun lil make

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(trying to get use out of the rainbow silk pla with 0 layer adhesion

vernal ginkgo
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Some gooood news

errant fern
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They are open-sourcing their RFID tag thingies?

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That's cool

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Although RFID is a bit of a red flag imo

errant fern
umbral edge
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insane

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high temp pla

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better thermal resistance than abs or petg

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and they have a GF version

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its a normal pla price too

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im getting some

heady tundra
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what nozzle temp is used for printing it?

umbral edge
heady tundra
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oh damn

umbral edge
umbral edge
umbral edge
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Never heard of this before

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Interesting

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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Ofc it does

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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Damn already

heady tundra
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is it that bad???

vast hill
heady tundra
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hopefully

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but then again its like

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3d printing is very easy if all you do is just download stuff from thingiverse

vast hill
heady tundra
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well duh but im not talking about that

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theres tons of people who just print silly little things they find online with

vast hill
umbral edge
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^

vernal ginkgo
vernal ginkgo
heady tundra
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oh ok

umbral edge
# heady tundra oh ok

I've only heard people complain about Bowden tube angle (too tight of a turn at head, fixable)
Light inside way too dim (easily fixable)
And panel glass is tinted way too dark (bright lights fix, and you can mod a Bambu labs door onto it)

heady tundra
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damn alright, probably gonna be my next 3d printer then

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
vernal ginkgo
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I believe they did

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Im 99% sure

umbral edge
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I sure hope so cuz it was basically a motion sensor diffuser over a single small diode under the camera lol

umbral edge
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Oh nice

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Cuz that lil thing was all it was before

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The teeeeny blue one

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They also opened up ports for custom strips that can be controlled via the software

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Yeah no not bright enough

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Screw that lol

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Light is too high and not bright enough to bounce around and light up everything

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Need a bed mounted light or just one that is below the height of the head too

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I'll just tape in some cheap strip

vernal ginkgo
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I hope they release info on the mcu soon

umbral edge
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I shot it

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Nah JK just slammed a hole thru it so I can cram a boroscope in

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Now I have this insane view

whole wind
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Noice

umbral edge
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Panic decision this morning that works

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Turns out I need to fix my offsets

whole wind
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lmao

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Gotta say, I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that before but I like the injenuity!

umbral edge
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I had a bit of paper beside me tho lol

umbral edge
umbral edge
whole wind
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Green was a nice choice

umbral edge
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Teal-turquoise is a fav

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Imma get some good pastel orange from polymaker and I'll have my fav colorscheme

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Gotta add a knob for the extruder and z axis still

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And a filament guide again

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Maybe some better cable management

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Got some clips here

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Also the PSU and hotend fan shrouds make it so much quieter

umbral edge
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and the tungsten carbide nozzle i got is working great

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i think i need to up temps a lil but its pretty identical performance from what i can tell

vernal ginkgo
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

vernal ginkgo
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Also

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Bought this at a auction

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Took me 20 minutes to fix

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Now I only need to replace the PEI plate and I’m good

umbral edge
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should i get a steel pei sheet for my e3p

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ill have to clamp it on top of my glass bed cuz the aluminum plate is bowed

vernal ginkgo
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Well, having new issues with my Anycubic printer, for some reason its leaving those gaps”holes” on my prints

vernal ginkgo
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Having an issue were my printer is leaving small holes in the print near the circle edges

umbral edge
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Oh

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Could be like

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Slightly too high temp and too fast moving

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It's not getting enough filament down in that spot, and has a lot of ghosting there

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I'd just lower outer wall speed a bit

vernal ginkgo
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But I’ll lower it even more

umbral edge
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Raise flow rate?

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Are you printing external walls first or last?

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Can you print it at a diagonal?

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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Oh

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Why

vernal ginkgo
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Idk but I did notice it weird on this printer

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Not like that oj the bambu

vernal ginkgo
pine spire
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PA?

umbral edge
vernal ginkgo
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I feel like the printer might be having underextrusion

umbral edge
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Yeah

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Slightly

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Do like 110%

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It's my Default

vernal ginkgo
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Once I get home I’ll try

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I hate the slicer the printer uses

umbral edge
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Do you have to use it?

vernal ginkgo
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Locked firmware

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There is a way to get orca slicer to work on it but its by jailbreak

umbral edge
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ew

vernal ginkgo
# umbral edge ew

Can’t wait to get the elegoo printer on Tuesday. If it works better I’m getting rid of this one

umbral edge
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im current batch :(

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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1 month

vernal ginkgo
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do you happen to have a MC near you?

umbral edge
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not at all

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7h iirc

vernal ginkgo
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jay

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I might have made the worst decision of my life or a good one

umbral edge
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i got my e3 pro from a MC hehe
100$, flew coast to coast with it as a carry-on item HAHA

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why

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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???

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its not like i could do anything with it

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machine parts arent illegal

vernal ginkgo
vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
vernal ginkgo
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the worst decision of my life I honestly dont know what it is but moving to texas was a bad one, I can't stand the heat

umbral edge
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they are allowed on planes, you just cant smoke it lol

vernal ginkgo
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...

umbral edge
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why

vernal ginkgo
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I just realized

umbral edge
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realized what

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you have to use words when explaining things kitten_stare

umbral edge
pine spire
umbral edge
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Petg?

pine spire
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ye

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i did end up having enough

vernal ginkgo
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Yey

umbral edge
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my filament arrives in a couple days

vernal ginkgo
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Woop

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:3

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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the korba screen looks like a wack placement

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i like the bezels tho

vernal ginkgo
vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
vernal ginkgo
vernal ginkgo
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I’m really considering buying a second one

vernal ginkgo
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its giving me 61mm

vernal ginkgo
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can I print ASA in my house?

vast hill
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Got any small pets or kids?

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Any respiratory conditions?

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Is the room at least somewhat adequately ventilated?

whole wind
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Open a window, close off the room from the rest of the house and keep a fan to ventilate and you'll be right as rain

vernal ginkgo
vernal ginkgo
whole wind
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Alright

vast hill
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I would keep the dog away from it while it's printing, and until it airs out. Burning styrene isn't the best for small pets.

vernal ginkgo
vast hill
umbral edge
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Learned that there is a Lenovo Thinkpad x1 carbon

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Which surprised me cuz yknow

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There is also the printer with the same name

umbral edge
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Seems like they got away with it just because they have a hyphen lol

umbral edge
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Wtf is wrong with my printing lol

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It looks like under extruding but it's so inconsistent

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Imma cancel this all and try again

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Ah the brass wheel is wearing out again

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Extruder gear

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Couldn't print a spacer since it was acting like this

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Ez fix

umbral edge
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like a dream

vernal ginkgo
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I bought one, used it for 1 month and got rid of it. Couldn’t bare the suffering it working 50% of the time the other 50 would be a catastrophic disaster

umbral edge
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Mine is pretty reliable

umbral edge
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I think it's unironically a skill issue tho, not in any mean way at all, but it's such a mechanically simple machine, so it's dog easy to troubleshoot with how few parts there are
It can be horrible at first, but once you get used to it, it's very predictable

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My worst experiences are with silk filament adhesion lol

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@vernal ginkgo

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They keep teasing me

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Now they send a hotend, but still keep the printer

vernal ginkgo
vernal ginkgo
vernal ginkgo
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If they announce the MCU I’ll buy a second centauri probably and sell the Kobra s1

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Found one hell of a deal today. Sunlu s4 dryer for 80$

umbral edge
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Got the nozzle, it's machining is really nice

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Like everything is nicely toleranced, all fins are exact same thickness

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Also new PEI sheet and PLA-HT-GF

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THE SHEET IS SO GOOD OMG

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It just sticks perfectly

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Never used pei before

vernal ginkgo
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But can’t find it in a color I would want

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I need to get some red and white pla for my next project

vernal ginkgo
whole wind
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Or hairspray despite it's fun properties

errant fern
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You guys are so lame, I simply held the print down. 16 hour prints fly by real fast

umbral edge
whole wind
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I guess that's fair

vernal ginkgo
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That thing is insanely good

umbral edge
vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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Also I'll only be using this for another month

vernal ginkgo
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Its great to hold down any filament to the plate. I used to have issues where the corners of my prints where starting to flex, never had that issue again after using VisionMiner

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-One single application last for like 30 prints. Havent even used 1/8 of my bottle and done like 100-120 prints out of it

umbral edge
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Noted for if I have the issue

vernal ginkgo
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Centauri carbon making beautiful parts

heady tundra
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danggg

umbral edge
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Imma be pushing that machine so hard when I get it

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You already know it's gonna be wack

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I managed to get my e3 to print structural parts at 218mm/s

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More than double base speed

vernal ginkgo
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I had to slow it down for my filaments. I might get rapid Pla for it

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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Mostly pla pro tho tbh

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It's good enough for most things, easily my fav pla

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Polymaker pla pro*

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It has a hardened steel nozzle which I'm not a huge fan of but it's built for it so it won't be as bad as replacing it with one

umbral edge
# vernal ginkgo Why you dont like it?

Thermal properties are a bit worse, it's marginal but the lower mass and conductivity compared to tungsten and brass does affect quality at high speed

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Tho I've not used a printer built for a HS nozzle

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It can be tuned for like anything else, but it's not simple

vernal ginkgo
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Not many printers come ready for abrasive filaments out of the box

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Specially on the 300$ range

umbral edge
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Fr

vernal ginkgo
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how can I get rid of such line?

umbral edge
umbral edge
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Tried orca for the first time

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It runs my printer so much better than cura

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And faster

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But the patching is so much smarter lol

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Cura doesn't calculate efficient pathing, nor have the smart line placement directions to make it lower likelihood of first layer small lines coming off the bed

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It's pretty well done

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The wonders of modern printing lol

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Discovering PEI and actually good slicers after years is funny

vernal ginkgo
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Been using orca for my Elegoo since day 1

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Found 10 kg of pla for 77$

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Not a bad price

errant fern
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I would use orca but it seems to be broken under wayland and i cba doing the workaround

umbral edge
vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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It's not even 100% infil

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Just crazy strong pla

umbral edge
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Couldn't break it on a table edge with my body weight

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:3

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Insane

whole wind
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yeah but you light af soooo

umbral edge
whole wind
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Teeny tiny

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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Trying the nightmare rainbow silk pla

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Again

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Wish me luck

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First layer is going on beautifully

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I think I've fixed my extrusion issues!

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Used some actual metal shims this time

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Not plastic, so it can't flex at all

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I think that was the issue before, the plastic shims were squishing a bit which let the gear skip

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So even <3

vernal ginkgo
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After trying out the elegoo centauri carbon. This isn’t worth it unless you really need a tested reliable printer

umbral edge
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It adhered fine, but it contracted so hard it lifted the PEI sheet and still warped it
However I did successfully do my first multi material print, manually, with a pause in the gcode

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I also misaligned it

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:3

vernal ginkgo
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First multicolor for me also using the pause gcode function

umbral edge
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It's something I am absolutely using in the future, it's pretty easy
I just gotta check it all the time, but has really good results

past kestrel
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i took apart my extruder and lubed it with the lube that came with my printer do yall think that will that cause problems?

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it said metal grease in chinese so i just went with it

umbral edge
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and where

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there is a lot unanswered here

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id say at most itll cause a lot of smoke

whole wind
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Like jay said it very much depends on where you're putting that Grease

past kestrel
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on the gears

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forgot to say sv06

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standard extruder for that

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i didnt put any grease where the filament comes through

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i put a bit of filament through it and it wasnt giving any visible problems if yall think i need a different kind of grease for the extruder gears ill buy some

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i think the grease it came with was probably for the bearings cause i heard those dont come lubed

whole wind
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Then it's probably alright in that case.

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As long as it's not anywhere near the heating element/fillament

past kestrel
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cool

umbral edge
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not me rushing making one of the oldest board games in the world rather than prepping for a set ill be playing in front of 80-140k people

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(semi historically accurate royal game of ur

umbral edge
umbral edge
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I still haven't prepped a set :)

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I fly tomorrow

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I will glue on all the tiles later

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But

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172 prints later it's pretty much done

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7 checkers with a magnet of 2 colors, 4 D2 sticks, 5 blue trim segments,1 knob, 1 magnetized close drawer, 1 base box, 1 game board printed in 2 colors, 29 dark decorating tiles, 40 light tiles, 15 eye tiles

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Oh and 38 5x1 circle magnets

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Oh and 20 lil plugs for the magnet holes

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I had to drill 4 out

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Magnets wrong direction

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Been building this for 20+ hours straight

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I haven't packed for my flight tomorrow

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Why am I like this

umbral edge
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@vernal ginkgo tracker (printer box for scale)
It's so big omg

umbral edge
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this is hilarious

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the poop bucket is a mini version of theprinter

whole wind
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Lol

umbral edge
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Polymaker has a 35% additional off of everything today

vernal ginkgo
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The screws were over tightened and made out of Chineseum metal. (Stripped easy)

umbral edge
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Trying to save it by running it without any fans, letting heat creep into the heating

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Heat sink*

umbral edge
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Didn't work, swapped the hotend out with the spare, and just swapped the nozzle to keep on .4

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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I can fix it just got a unclock

umbral edge
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Yeah I'm so used to a fully manual setup that I didn't use the special unload/load functions

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Which is needed

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Cuz it's not a simple machine now

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Also can confirm it runs my super brittle PLA-HT-GF

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Which can barely bend at all

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But I was pretty concerned with that bend before the head

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But yeah

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I need to find a new home for it, it's got such a heavy head it wobbles everything I put it on

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But it's still stable enough to print these like that

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Which is wild

vernal ginkgo
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Specially for the price

umbral edge
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Totally

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This is insane

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Imma get the spec for all the flush screws on the head and give you em

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So you can replace them

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To not have rounded heads lol

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Just waiting to email until Monday

umbral edge
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They are extremely prone to rounding

umbral edge
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board behind nozzle has a led pad

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:3

umbral edge
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@vernal ginkgo @vernal ginkgo

pine spire
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chat i think my filament might be a little wet

umbral edge
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Maybe

pine spire
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friendship ended with aligned rectilinear, now line is my new best friend

umbral edge
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gyroid best

heady tundra
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100% infill gang

ivory magnet
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MY CARBON ARRIVED

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And I’m moving..

first setup will be at the new house! Lol

umbral edge
umbral edge
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Also go to Lowe's and get the big rubber paver to set it on, makes a world of difference for vibrations for 7$

ivory magnet
umbral edge
ivory magnet
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Right now I'm mentally figuring out where I'm going to put it. Obviously inside is optimal, but I keep all of my resin printers outside in the garage. I know I could potentially run into issues with fdm prints in the humid florida garage.. but I like to have all my stuff in one place. It's my shop. It's inconvenient to have everything split.

I do have a couple filament dryers that I could run when needed/ make sure to store my filament inside when not in use.

I also wonder if the humidity issues would more or less be minimized due to the enclosed nature of the printer

umbral edge
# ivory magnet Right now I'm mentally figuring out where I'm going to put it. Obviously inside ...

It is still gonna be humid in there kinda, it's thermally enclosed, but humidity does thru the small holes and fan spots just fine when turned off
I've had condensation form in it when heating up the chamber once
Not familiar with what you mean by the printer being affected by humidity though, from what I know the only issue with humidity affects the filament, and thus the printing.
I like printing out of the dryer, makes a pretty large difference in surface quality for all smooth materials I've used.
I'm in the same climate as you, just a tiny amount cooler lol, so assuming results will be identical

whole wind
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Ooooh we talking filament dryers?

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Just saw this video recently which was pretty cool

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Head to http://squarespace.com/CNCKITCHEN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code CNCKITCHEN.

I got my hands on some fancy solid-state dehumidifiers from the company Rohsal and tried to build the filament dry box of the future, which is maintenance-free and very efficient. Yet how does this novel technology compare...

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Definitely something I would consider if you're storing a lot of fillament and don't want to keep buying silica gel

umbral edge
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:3

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I recently got my first dryer

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It's an uhhhh

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Sovol sho2

whole wind
umbral edge
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Yeah

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If you are running a farm then totally

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Soldi state is goob

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I need to invest in some dryboxes

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Tempted to seal up a dresser drawer and fill it with a dessicant bed for the rolls to sit in lol

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It took 30+ hours to dry out a roll of pla pro and petg

whole wind
umbral edge
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Yus

ivory magnet
umbral edge
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Haven't with this printer while printing from dryer*

pine spire
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enclosed multi material thingamabob?

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might be a lot of setup...

umbral edge
ivory magnet
umbral edge
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This current setup

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Also a sidenote, polymaker pla pro and elegoo pla works fine even a couple days after drying for 24 hours

ivory magnet
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AHHHH im so excited to open up the box and fire off a print. It was PAINFUL to wait like 3 months for it… it finally show up.. and then I load it in the U-Haul hahah

umbral edge
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Ouchie
I love this damn thing, I got to compare it directly to an h2d recently and it was nearly the same print results, just different build quality and volume lol

umbral edge
umbral edge
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this super small channel is making some cool mods for the ECC

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mostly fan/volume mods

winter fractal
vast hill
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Been working on making custom deckboxes to replace the boxes that come with this DeWalt parts box

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I just finished the dice box 😁

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The boxes are print in place and fold up into stand alone deckboxes too, so you can store them inside the case or on their own

whole wind
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Looks awesome man!

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I've been trying to do something similar with my toolbox for a while. Unfortunately I kinda dropped the idea after a bit

vast hill
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If you can give me measurements I can tell you if mine will work

whole wind
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I'm thinking my best bet at this point is get a big block of foam and cut it to fit each tool

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Got a 3D scanner to make inserts but I found it's a pain to 3D scan each tool and near impossible to make them optimized enough to model anything without fusion 360 crashing.

vast hill
vast hill
whole wind
vast hill
whole wind
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nahhhhhhhh

vast hill
umbral edge
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just a ruler and a single pic is all you need

pine spire
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i wish i had a chronograph

whole wind
pine spire
whole wind
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oooooh

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I gotcha

vast hill
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It's technically 3d printing? 🤣

umbral edge
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is that a demon core kendama

vast hill
pine spire
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what are the odds elegoo pla+ is anything like esun pla+ in terms of strength

whole wind
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Most likely, however every manufacturer uses a different formula for pla+

vast hill
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So 50/50?

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But eSun PLA isn't particularly strong anyway?

elfin notch
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Pla resin?

pine spire
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resin?

elfin notch
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Dunno

vast hill
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That said, after doing some digging because I was curious, it actually appears like eSun produces their own PLA pellets, whereas Elegoo buys their base material, so the chances of them being the same are almost 0

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eSun claims they are fully vertically Integrated, which is an interesting detail to know

umbral edge
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which is inefficient

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but cheaper for smaller batches

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its super mixed tho

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interesting market defo

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i know some of elegoo stuff is just other brands spools

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and their standard pla is very interesting

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goopy

pine spire
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cant find sunlu translucent yellow petg in stock anywhere....
it's a really nice color

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damn you 3djake for this bullshit "in stock, if you wait a month!"

pine spire
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they make pla+ in the same color
we are so back

errant fern
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Does it look like my plate had proper adhesion?

umbral edge
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Static cling?

errant fern
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Very sticky paint

umbral edge
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Man I find the idea of "embedded device fingerprints" in a 3d print to be so fuckin funny

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Like same thing that paper printers have

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The yellow dots it prints out that is unique to the printer and directly traceable

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Good luck implementing that in a printer lol

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People will just run a different firmware

errant fern
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How would they even implement that in a simple 3d printer

umbral edge
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It's just not a precise enough machine

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It doesn't work on what is basically a grid like paper printers

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Like

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Paper ones inconsistencies are more towards colors being in the same spot, and even distribution of ink

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The placement of individual colors is very reliable

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Whereas 3d printers are so so so imprecise

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And in order to read the id, you would have to take a damn ct scan of the object

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It's for ghost guns of course, and isn't a new idea, but it's tarded asf imo

pine spire
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da gub simply aint got da means

umbral edge
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It's time to claim the means of production

pine spire
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core one appeared at my local makerspace

vast hill
pine spire
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they gave me the printer it replaced

vast hill
pine spire
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aw hell yeah

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aw hell naw

umbral edge
pine spire
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used to be in a heated enclosure to print the foul stuff

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needs a power supply, sbc and probe to get it running

pine spire
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i have no filament and i must print

pine spire
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so i took a look at the bed

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just imagine those wires
on those pads
looking exactly as they do off the pads

vast hill
pine spire
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ya, plenty

pine spire
pine spire
umbral edge
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When we launched the X1 back in 2022, we started thinking deeply about multi-material printing. You know the frustration...the purge towers, the "poop", watching filament get wasted just to change colors. We kept asking ourselves: "There has to be a better way, right?"
Today, we're unveiling the Vortek Automatic Hotend Change System. Our complet...

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took em long enough damn

pine spire
umbral edge
whole wind
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oooh that's pretty cool

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Both of those things

vast hill
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Fwiw

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Apparently the firmware is completely borked (which usually wouldn't matter...because Klipper...except that their AMS thing is proprietary...) and their beds are very typically warped beyond a mm out of square

vast hill
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It's all the same costs as the INDX with needing to buy and maintain multiple hot ends, except you still have to pay for the heater and thermistor, on top of what the wireless receiver will cost, AND you'll have to buy a second AMS...but without the gains of things like TPU multi-material or the time savings of it just needing to swap tool heads and heat up & prime. The added time from cutting, retracting, and re-spooling, then extruding each filament is still the longest part of their MMU system...and this does nothing to address that. The purge was annoying but it kinda feels like they ignored that in favor of trying to sell people a second AMS?

pine spire
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not that cheap now that i think about it

vast hill
pine spire
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my 5.5kg of jayo clear petg has arrived

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hate that plastic spools are often the cheapest

umbral edge
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Plastic is always cheaper than cardboard, and easier to manufacture

vast hill
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It would be better if we could all agree to move to a single reusable spool drsign

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Cardboard spools are pretty awful for other reasons like the impact to print speed and the increased friction they add that the extruder needs to overcome, not to mention how much longer they cause it to take to dry the filament.

whole wind
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Bambu labs has a pretty nice reusable spool that is made of plastic

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Although chances are they copyrighted it

vast hill
whole wind
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Yup

vast hill
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There are also problems with the Bambu Lab design anyway

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Whatever the final solution would be, it needs to be something that is ALSO easy to wind if there is any hope for other manufacturers picking it up

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The solutions right now really don't go onto replacement spools very well

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Needs to be more brainless

pine spire
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fml everything exploded
my probe cooked itself alive and i dont know why
i burnt my finger on it
my sbc appears to be dead
i no longer trust the mainboard nor psu
all the parts for fixing new printer now go to fixing old printer
fuck

umbral edge
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5v to ground my beloved

heady tundra
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poof

pine spire
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probe arrived, sbc is gonna be here by wednesday
we back

pine spire
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it arrived today!

pine spire
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i have made a small oversight

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this has a mini hdmi rather than a micro hdmi
and no ethernet port

whole wind
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🤢

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Mini and micro hdmi suck so bad

ivory magnet
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lfg

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first print is sent off!

ivory magnet
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Damn, this thing prints amazingly.

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Like damn, okay elegoo.

fickle thorn
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Man I definitely need to invest in a printer that won't shit itself everyday lmao

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Looks great!

shy hedge
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Recommendation for CAD for 3d Printing, Fusion 360 or Solidworks Maker's License?

whole wind
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Also Solidworks and Fusion360 are very similar in layout so when you learn one you have a very good idea how to use the other.

shy hedge
whole wind
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Not sure, I've made many models over the years but I've always released them for free. From what I understand commercial is for companies to use to stay out of legal trouble, they're not going to hunt down an individual person who happened to make a neat model and wanted to sell it. As far as I'm concerned the only difference between the personal version and commercial version is less features for modeling.

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For example the personal edition will only let you have 10 active models at a time. However, you can easily get around that by exporting your file as a 3mf source file and delete it off the dashboard. That way you don't actually lose anything, you still have the edit history for the model, and you won't hit the 10 document limit.

shy hedge
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oh interesting, where do you export it to, your local drive?

whole wind
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You can export it anywhere you like, I just have a folder called archived Fusion360 models

shy hedge
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Anything you need to do to make it 3d printable and not risk wrecking your printer?

vast hill
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You don't even need to export it

whole wind
# shy hedge Anything you need to do to make it 3d printable and not risk wrecking your print...

Well when it comes to 3D printing you need to use a separate program called a slicer which takes the 3D model and "slices" it into the layers the printer makes. Typically what you'll see people do is they make their models, export it as an obj (geometry and color info) or stl (geometry only) file. Then the slicer program works it's magic and converts it into a file called gcode that the printer can read.

there are multiple kinds of slicers out there and they all work quite well it mainly comes down to what printer you're using and what slicer that manufacturer recommends. One of the most common slicer programs most people use with their diy printers is Cura because it's relatively easy to set up and understand. Other people who are more experienced in printing may want to use a slicer like Orca or Prusa since they have more features like model stitching for large models at the cost of making things a little more complex. For people who don't want to diy their 3D printer, there are also higher end companies who made their own slicer programs for their own brand of printers like Bambulabs. Simple to use, easy to understand, just send the file over and print.

whole wind
shy hedge
whole wind
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Doesn't really matter, both will work just fine for 3D printing.

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Obj has more information but you shouldn't really need to bother with it unless you want to do multi color printing.

vast hill
whole wind
vast hill
whole wind
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Gotcha

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I kinda would've expected that with Blender if anything

vast hill
whole wind
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couldn't agree more lol

vast hill
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It just throws verticies all over the place that don't attach to anything

whole wind
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That right there has nearly ruined a couple of my projects

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Would love to be able to model more in blender to learn how to make organic geometry but that little issue there makes it so annoying.

shy hedge
vast hill
whole wind
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It is possible I just did it about an hour ago lol. But yeah it's probably best to just do it in the slicer.

shy hedge
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Any one using any gloves for finger control and/or haptic feedback?

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Debating on buying some vs making some from some of the DIY projects out there

whole wind
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for 3D printing?

shy hedge
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I am intersted in 3d printable version or commercial

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The lucid VR project was pretty cool, but the founder went AWOL and I cant find STL files or a solid guide to build the damn gloves despite an entire discord where no one has compiled a guide to building the gloves, despite 100s of people making it...

whole wind
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Gotcha, in that case you might be better off asking in #vr-questions-and-help

vast hill
whole wind
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But space mice on the other hand 😙 👌

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Live my diy space mouse for 3d modeling but I need to tinker with it some more.

ivory magnet
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Yo, 3d print chat.. so, I bought the "extended family bundle" for my centauri carbon and it came with a few extra build plates

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my first thought is that the built plate has some micro etching that transfers to the base layer of the print.. but like... the effect is stunning.

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This isn't some sort of film is it?

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I guess it is quite literally a "holographic plate"

as is.. micro etching into the pla/ filament that refracts light a certain way. Really impressive

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very cool. seems to be an actual holography. Was on point with the assessment hah

whole wind
vast hill
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Or at least it's a good way to explain it

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It's a physical texture on the plate that transfers the reverse onto the print.

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It works on other things too, my wife has some silicone molds with a similar effect she uses when making chocolate, it works exactly the same there too

vast hill
umbral edge
# ivory magnet This isn't some sort of film is it?

its just a textured plate, exactly the same as when you take clay and press it into a textured mold, it takes the shapes of the stuff you press it into
so the holographic microscopic triangles on the surface get iversely mirrored by the plastic, and since its symmetrical it is a perfectly functioning copy
if you rub your hand across it then it will go away due to hand oils, but soap and water brings it back!

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dont do flexible polymers on them, they can end badly

ivory magnet
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Yeah, this is all super super cool

ivory magnet
ivory magnet
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I have been having trouble printing on anything other than the standard "Rough" plate and this super smooth holo plate.

I have tried multiple prints on the "carbon fiber" build plate and it's failed every time

vast hill
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So it's a lot less noticible

ivory magnet
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I found my issue with print failures I think

umbral edge
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I just run first 2 layers 1/4 speed, slightly over extruded with mouse ears

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I've been using the smooth side of the default mostly

ivory magnet
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This feels so OP.

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both resin printers going + the centauri

umbral edge
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I miss my nozzle cam, imma prob swap for a lighter print head setup and install a spot for it again

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This was so peak

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I streamed it off of vrcdn so I could remote access it

ivory magnet
# umbral edge I've been using the smooth side of the default mostly

I have had such weird performance with the build plates in general. I had a great print with the holo star build plate smooth side.. but then I encountered print failures (bad bed adhesion) on the carbon fiber plate and smooth side of the rough plate.

However, on the stock rough plate, I almost get overadhesion issues where the raft is really stuck to the print.

umbral edge
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The only thing that isn't tuned right out of the box is first layer

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I had massive under extrusion issues

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Still have notable gapes in first layers

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No clue why

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And some have overex

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Most things are super well tuned

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But the first layers aren't defo

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Printer to printer

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Print some various tests for it

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Also I do often use the glue stick on the smooth side

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For even better adhesion

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Also have you been drying your spools properly?

ivory magnet
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Yeah it's kinda funny tbh. Some things are so ridiculously tight and tuned out of the box while some other things are clearly overlooked.

overall impressed though.

ivory magnet
umbral edge
ivory magnet
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I have this guy

umbral edge
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Dryers are still kinda newer tech, so most of them aren't the greatest designed
Some get the moisture out good, but the heat gets out too
Some keep the heat in, but moisture doesn't get out cuz it's too sealed (mine, I just put the scraper in to hold it like 1cm open)
Some do both (looking at 600$ tho)
And some do neither

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Oh I'm not familiar with the space pi

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I'd have to look stuff up

ivory magnet
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I am very excited for the multicolor addon

umbral edge
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Fr

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Not for multicolor for me mostly, I can do most things with good tolerances and enough time

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Just convenience of material choices

ivory magnet
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I don't care too much for actual multicolor haha

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Just being able to quickly and easily swap mats is what I'm excited for

umbral edge
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I wish MMUs were more expensive tbh
Thousands of tons of waste at this point from the ease of access of the Bambu ones

ivory magnet
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what you mean, like material waste? Like wasted print material?

umbral edge
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It was bad enough it was banned off of etsy

ivory magnet
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Wait for real?

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what

umbral edge
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Yeah it was like

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Facebook moms

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Got a hold of it

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And AI generated 3d models

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Because it was all so accessible

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You you have these people cranking out like 80g models with 100g waste per in purges

ivory magnet
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Oh god. Yeah, I was shocked when I came across cult3d and saw the ridiculous amount of ai generated models everywhere. AND they're all PAID

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Also, where are people getting their prints nowadays? Any good communities?

I have been a thingiverse guy since day 1 but it seems kinda lame lately

umbral edge
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Thingiverse isn't as good

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Printables has dope challenges and stuff sponsored by prusa

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It's lovely

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And there is easy print integration with slocers

ivory magnet
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swwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeet

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yeah, I use prusa still for my Ender 3 pro (which I recently revived btw hahaha, thing still is kickin after like 40 bucks in upgrades)

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what slicer you use for your centauri?

I really like the network options and I've just been using Elegoo's fork of Orca.. what's it called, ElegooSlicer?

umbral edge
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I'm using orca

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Elegoos "fork" is I think just a rebadge

whole wind
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-# and not because I print in my bed room and don't want to die from the fumes of other filaments like a dumbass

ivory magnet
whole wind
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Fair enough, I want to get into resin printing but maaaaaan it's messy

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And a bit expensive

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And highly toxic

vast hill
# ivory magnet This feels so OP.

If you use home assistant at all, I have a script that can take a snapshot from the camera every 10% and send it as a notification. Not sure if you can add the resin printers to home assistant but you definitely can with the elegoo...

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Like that

vast hill
hazy nimbus
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hmm, this isn't printing but the hobbies often go hand in hand, so Imma just ask here anyways.

Y'all think the makera z1 is a good device to get into cnc (mainly for dnd stuff like fancy dice boxes)? 760€ for me, and it's the first enclosed desk cnc getting me hyped so far. the genmitsu cubico looks nice too but I fear it'll limit me in size too quickly :/

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also wanna do some aluminum/brass stuff for e.g. leather stamping, so I'll lkely need the more powerful one

ivory magnet
ivory magnet
hazy nimbus
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I can't find anything about the pricing of the optional attachments though... might come with the KS release.
Because for their other models, 500€ for the air filter or 4th axis module seems a bit excessive.

And yeah, there's a few desktop cnc machines for around 300$ out there, but with varying quality and precision, often with relatively low RPM. but alas, I'm but a beginner in this stuff so I might be getting snake-oiled

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I'll take my chances and put down the deposit since they claim it's refundable, and decide when I see the KS prices I suppose

umbral edge
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Found this gem y'all would like

errant fern
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What the fuck is this monstrosity

vernal ginkgo
whole wind
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Tbh I'm more impressed than horrified

pine spire
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how...

heady tundra
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spray foam failure

umbral edge
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btw the cc mmu is delayed

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they releasing the cc2 with an mmu system and removed "q3 2025" off the cc page

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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I think I've just had the worst injury thing that a 3d printer can give

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Second to flat out fire and horribly burning you

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Clogged extruder

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Was unclogging it

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Yeah it unclogged alright, and exploded on my face

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Molten plastic, audible explosion

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I'm lucky I had glasses on

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It hurts a LOT

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So PSA, clogged print heads are pressure shrapnel pots

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@vernal ginkgo @ivory magnet

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I have 1mm wide blisters across my face now

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:)

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Looking a bit better now, it's mostly 1st degree, minor blistering but it was LOUD and freaked me out lol

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Only small shard of plastic shot out that wasn't molten, poked a tiny hole

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OH NO IT WAS FIBERGLASS PLA

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😭

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This is gonna suuuck

vernal ginkgo
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Didn’t know that could happen

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Hope you get better soon, and that no fiberglass stays in your skin

pine spire
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oh fuck

umbral edge
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Should taper down and be much smoother

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Tbh 3rd party hotends might be the go if the bore surface is smoother or more tapered

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And I only got 2 solid bits of plastic stuck into my skin, and a lil itchy, but otherwise only mild burns

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Doing fine

whole wind
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at least you had glasses

umbral edge
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I was inches away

whole wind
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yee

vernal ginkgo
umbral edge
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@whole wind @vernal ginkgo they fucking ai generated first aid reccomendations for burns (and its bad cuz its for fire burns, not molten plastic/sugar burns, which should be treated differently 💀 )

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"remove all plastic stuck to skin"

whole wind
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I'm surprised you bothered to email them.

umbral edge
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what?

whole wind
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What would you even say "help my face is covered in molten plastic"

umbral edge
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nah i just gave a detailed explaination of how it happened, and how it is caused by the design of the heatsink bore

whole wind
# umbral edge what?

You'll have to excuse my crappy English I just drank 5 fireballs for a wizard bit

umbral edge
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with proof

whole wind
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Ooh I gotcha

umbral edge
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so i sent pics of the burns and plastic on face lol

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cuz it was relavent

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im getting a whole new extruder

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itll be fun taking this thing the rest of the way apart tbh

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they have followed up with their R&D team, saying they will look into associations between the surface finish of the heatsink hole and clogging

ivory magnet
#

Don’t think I put this anywhere?

Most recent stupid print project. Halo CE Magnum. Did it a few weeks ago. Lots of parts. Recoverable mag, rubber band on the slide so it’s “cockable”

heady tundra
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real one when

ivory magnet
#

You can probably see a couple weird pseudo failures on a couple of the resin printed parts, but given the design it’s a little expected (and the layout I chose in slicer)

A little post processing could fix it up.

ivory magnet
heady tundra
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neeeeed

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ngl campaign evolved would've been received well if they shipped magnums with preorders

umbral edge
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1800%

queen coral
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I recently got a new tower case, I didn't like the gap from the PSU to the edge( ...and the sff gap to the side in a full size PSU bay ).

fossil valve
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YEEEE FINALY i can show cool shit and learn morw

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Where are my centauri bros at?

umbral edge
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Make sure to point the holes away from you when unclogging a heatsink clog

fossil valve
umbral edge
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I have so many issues with the hotend clogging

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But I've put like

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7 spools thru it

fossil valve
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Strange I can show my prints

umbral edge
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And swapped filament over a hundred times