indigo sedge
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nerf may have hit our new rat friend too hard being able to take out turrets with one Boira shot from almost any range is a bit brutal for him, changing that to 2 at close range and 3 at long range would help them allot.
very slight differences between the 2 turrets might be cool aswell
such as Dither having slightly more range/accuracy
and Banding having a slightly faster fire rate just as examples
long current
I agree, them being a 1 shot does feel bad, but it gets better as more of a detection turret than a firing turret
indigo sedge
info is fine and all, but you can just hear footsteps.
Also before you say it, yes im aware couch stepping is a thing but its pretty rare that's ever utilized.
them being 2 shots would help them get a little chip damage in and would help a little more than just be utilized for little info.
long current
I crouch walk all the time, especially when it’s a 1v1 when we’re both low
indigo sedge
wierd
pearl quarry
Could make the turret that hate dying function as normal turret card but 1 use only while the turret that loves dying for you be the weaker turret you get every round
pearl quarry
I was thinking along the lines of 1 normal turret and thr pre-nerfed mini turret stats
pearl quarry
Actually yeah I realised my suggestion is more of a rework and too much of a jump. Better to get it right step by step then leap
charred drift
Fingers crossed this goes along the changes with Sable and/or Stevie for next week
And like I said before, I'd be nice to recover some of the range too. It'd give the option to put turrets on the way rather than right at the top of the enemy. The current DPS is fine tho.
indigo sedge
yea dps is ok. The little note i left was meant to be very minor diffrences between the two, like 5 extra meters on Dither and 0.2 more bullets per second on Banding
very minor and add a little more personality between them
hazy crystal
a pitch in a different suggestion board is that they're given a lot more health, but they lose health every time they fire a shot. they're scrappy, and hastily repaired between rounds, so they can be a little more frail.
that way you don't ONLY need to shoot them. baiting out shots will also technically get a fair amount of health down.
indigo sedge
not asking for a rework T_T
weary pasture
yea dps is ok. The little note i left was meant to be very minor diffrences betw...
Feels like too little to really see their personality come out
Although I do like the concept
Boggles my mind that they’re the same. I would love to have to use some strategy to use the right turret in the right situation
indigo sedge
idk about too little, i almost feel like it might be too much
weary pasture
animal abuse
indigo sedge
who?
vital hinge
I'd like to see 15 health but I think 25 on each would be oppressive
noble marsh
whatever its at rn is way too low
indigo sedge
I'd like to see 15 health but I think 25 on each would be oppressive
25 takes 2 shots to kill, 15 wouldn’t really change anything.
vital hinge
itd take 2 shots from range but close up still just 1
indigo sedge
itd take 2 shots from range but close up still just 1
This would indirectly also buff Stevie witch would be bad
vital hinge
I mean ya I guess but thats a seperate issue
should be changed anyway and I doubt theyd buff klustr without nerfing stevie
donnie gets 30 health as their unique trait, so klustr having essentially +50 health and the +50 health shoots back seems crazy to me
just chuck both when a fight starts and youd have a huge advantage
indigo sedge
No not at all that’s a very narrow view
There is multiple gaps in that logic
Turrets are stationary and have limited range and dps
These will still be absurdly easy to take out, even from a decent range
weary pasture
Turrets are stationary and have limited range and dps
and a players turrets do not need to be killed in order to kill the player
And you can multidamage turrets with explosives and phantom bullets, unlike a single player
And they don't get benefits from most card abilities. Like helmet, or titan
vital hinge
its a gross oversimplification I know but having to deal with sudden 50hp of turrets if theyre used correctly just seems quite strong compared to what some other characters do. I see so many people online just immediately chuck the lil turrets in a visible spot where of course they just get picked off n do nothing. But with their fast setup time theyre great distraction in a fight or hidden around a corner
not saying he doesnt need a buff but ya
indigo sedge
just think your overvaluing it, you often can ignore the turrets too.
but yes good placement will seperate a good from a great kluster
vital hinge
just think your overvaluing it, you often can ignore the turrets too.
fair
wispy iris
I think the two free turrets every round dying in one shot is fair. It gives incentive for kj to place them more creatively than one would other turrets.
charred drift
Here's a very hot take:
Dither and Banding should be a single turret, that is as strong as a single bat turret.
Two very weak turrets not only makes dealing with them trivial, but also clutters your hand with two hot cards every single round.
More often than not, playing Klustr feel like you're holding two trashcards every single round.
weary pasture
I’d argue that two turrets is harder to deal with than 1 turret with twice the power. I mean looking at 1 turret, shooting it dead, then looking at another turret, shooting it dead, is gonna take longer than just firing down one turret with double the health
charred drift
Don't the bat-turrets take like 5-ish shots to take down?
weary pasture
Yea 4 or 5 boira shots
But my argument is that two 25hp turrets are stronger than 1 50hp turret
charred drift
Sure
But my point is that having two hot cards instead of one makes hand management clunkier for what the cards are currently worth
I think we actually talked about that before
weary pasture
Mhm I hate it too
shadow sonnet
PLEASE BUFF TURRETS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I DON'T CARE IF ITS EITHER 2 OR 3 SHOT MY BOI KLUSTR DID NOT DESERVE TO BE LITERALLY GUTTED RIGHT AFTER THEY CAME OUT
okay done
indigo sedge
thank you
shadow sonnet
ofc
