Role colour updates in the server

[edgy sand]

Hey everyone! We have a few options on how we implement the new role colours for you guys and wanted to see what people would prefer! Please vote on the below poll and feel free to discuss your ideas/offer other suggestions in this post.

If people have other ideas I haven't thought of we can vote on them too but these are the main ones. In any option I'll leave the current role system alone as to not force people into a change.

[latent depot]

Might be good to explain how this feature works btw HAHA or post a blog post for it??

[cosmic copper]

clarification on #1: is it just 12 for the 12 members, or 18 more main roles (incl. loona, 3 subunits, artms, looble)?

[edgy sand]

Oh good point, If we don't hit a cap we can do all 18

[cosmic copper]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/31444213087255-Enhanced-Role-Styles

[edgy sand]

the blog post is more for the implementation perspective but it gives an idea yeah

Also the gradients themselves need to go to another specific colour, so if that is the option that gets voted for, there will likely then be another vote for peoples preferred option.

[graceful lava]

can you show examples of what you're thinking of? like if you're doing a gradient for each member then i assume it's just their main color with a lighter shade of it? then who can use it, boosters?

naturally doing different member pair combinations is probably out of scope since thats a ton to add

[cosmic copper]

66 possible pairs

[edgy sand]

then who can use it, boosters?
We would add these roles to bias-picker so everybody would be allowed to use them

Yeah I guess the options would either be

1. Every role goes to the same colour but we can vote on what looks best, so it'd be Heejin pink hex > white/black/whatever gets chosen (I can make an example)
2. The team go through options for each role to just find ones that look the best, so less input from server members but you'll have to trust our judgement

[cosmic copper]

suggestion if no. of roles is limited for option #1: convert main roles to gradient and keep sub roles as is
(depends on if enough ppl who dislike gradient roles also want to retain main & sub coloured roles)

[edgy sand]

this is a good idea, I'll look into role # cap soon, but I think we'd be okay to add all gradient options

Does anyone want to model the gradient example role?

I put myself as the example for holographic so I don't want to change mine

Also we can implement more than one option, if we have the space

[cosmic copper]

i can be a model 💃

[edgy sand]

Should have had the poll allow you to choose more than one, sorry I rushed into it

[cosmic copper]

could always start a new poll, only a few votes so far

[edgy sand]

true

[cosmic copper]

ooh this is cool

looks kinda similar to yours tho but probs due to colour choice

[graceful lava]

is that meant to be an example of heejin?

[cosmic copper]

yeah

[pure frigate]

is dust colour for the point 1 that u said

[graceful lava]

what would member color + group color look like?

[graceful lava]

so like pink/green/red/blue/purple + artms purple

[pure frigate]

that actually looks cool for individual member + white

[edgy sand]

Please re-vote, sorry friends

[edgy sand]

You can vote for multiple

[edgy sand]

yep!

[pure frigate]

ohhh i like that

[edgy sand]

Ohh so Heejin hex into artms colour?

[graceful lava]

yeah

[edgy sand]

will make that too, do you want to model it?

[graceful lava]

i'd imagine for choerry it would look kinda meh, similar to hyunjin + loossemble

sure

[jolly rampart]

yeah i'd be interested in a blue to purple

[graceful lava]

wait can you do blue to purple

yeah lol

[pure frigate]

blue to purple is nice

[graceful lava]

that way would kinda leave chuu and yves out though, unless you did their color to ot12 gold or something

[edgy sand]

yeah theres a few options we can vote on if people want it implemented

[jolly rampart]

might just be best to ask chuuves fans what looks best for that

[pure frigate]

oh yeah

[edgy sand]

jinsoul to artms?

[graceful lava]

ye

[obtuse palm]

is dust colour the example of the hex gradient?

[cosmic copper]

yep that's basically only if option 1 wins ig

yep lake

[edgy sand]

done, not as visible on shorter names

[graceful lava]

it's subtle, probably would look better on a longer name

[jolly rampart]

oh wow I don't even notice it's a gradient if I don't hover

[pure frigate]

someone with longer name

dust be the model again

[edgy sand]

I'd like to keep dust as example for member > white

kairu change name to kairuuuuuuuu

[cosmic copper]

[obtuse palm]

lol

[pure frigate]

try try

[edgy sand]

oh it does like waves if the name is long enough

[pure frigate]

ohhh the colour looks sick

woahh

[cosmic copper]

yep then it scrolls horizontally if you mouseover

[graceful lava]

seems you need more contrast to make it look as good as pink/white

[pure frigate]

the wave effect is cool

[edgy sand]

yeah, its good to test so people can vote accordingly

Please check @cosmic copper @pure frigate @graceful lava names for some examples of option 1!

[edgy sand]

sorry for ping

[pure frigate]

so if artms is going from the 5 rep colurs to artms purple, wouldnt choerry's one be almost the same

or from dark purple to light purple

[lethal prairie]

Don't really have an opinion on this but i do think it's funny how Discord implemented it now considering they used to fight rainbow roles (at least iirc)

[graceful lava]

yeah similar to hyunjin and loossemble as they're both a form of yellow

[pure frigate]

ahhhh

[edgy sand]

yeah, we could look to do different options in that circumstance, so choerry and hyunjin roles would have a different contrast colour just to make them stand out

[pure frigate]

i think choerry might be easier compared to hyunjin cuz dark purple to light is better than yellow to yellow unless its from dark to light yellow

[graceful lava]

artms at least has a secondary color but then that might cause confusion

[willow cedar]

I'm for option 2, can just make Main roles gradient, people don't want it can use sub roles for static color

[graceful lava]

come to think of it, loossemble's (excl hyeju) colors are all bright so it might not work with their yellow very well at all

[edgy sand]

yeah the contrast doesnt have to be their group colour we can just do it to white or another colour if white looks bad with their personal colour

[willow cedar]

i like the heejin gradient a lot

[vague crest]

will there be a special role color for

[willow cedar]

Nop

those are just icons for your name

[edgy sand]

we could withhold holographics roles for next years prize 👀

[willow cedar]

the special black/white role

idk

[swift hull]

wait how does one apply?

[willow cedar]

We pretty much enable it on said role

[swift hull]

I am either dumb or I just didn't see it

[willow cedar]

wdym

we are currently having a poll for it to vote, the ones that have a role are "test view" to see what it looks like

[swift hull]

Oh so it's not online yet?

[willow cedar]

we didn't do anything with it yet really no

[swift hull]

oh ok

[willow cedar]

me, kairu, dust and matcha currently have a role (connor aswell sorta which is just a holographic role)

[edgy sand]

we're just checking to see what people are interesting in having before we do all the setup

[wise vault]

gradient to black not great for midnight dark mode

[willow cedar]

lmao

[wise vault]

or idk looks like a shadow i guess dpends on username length too

probly gonna be a few letters missing for short names

[willow cedar]

made it lighter

[pure frigate]

LOL YEAH the black wouldn't fit well with those with dark bgs

[willow cedar]

i mean people using light mode (if they exist) also get shafted with using white

[pure frigate]

it was literally jum...yyyyy

[willow cedar]

it is what it is

[pure frigate]

yeah thats the downside if we do black, dark mode/midnight mode cant see. if u do white, light mode users cant see

[wise vault]

for science

[willow cedar]

i mean tbf, we had the black role loona for birthdays and regular white role loona still in use before this so, at least now with gradient you can see something if you used black/white in one role

it just starts moving if you hover on the name, not like you won't read anything anymore

[pure frigate]

hmmm actually light mode for this shade is not bad

[pure frigate]

okay well im not computer right now so i cant hover

wait it moves?

[willow cedar]

i was thinking on doing green for yves as other gradient since she's an apple enthusiast, but it might look abysmal

[pure frigate]

red + green = Christmas

[willow cedar]

ok nop going back

[wise vault]

that's just bubba role

[cosmic copper]

tbh jumpy's current one is sick

[willow cedar]

[willow cedar]

in a good or bad "sick"

[cosmic copper]

good

[willow cedar]

phew

[cosmic copper]

probably choosing white or 20% times orig colour is the best

[willow cedar]

yea i just did same hex code and just went all up

should i do yours aswell to see?

[cosmic copper]

nope not necessary yet tbh

we need #1 to win first

[willow cedar]

lmao

[pure frigate]

vote #1 for free stuff

idk what stuff

[willow cedar]

no no vote nr 2

[cosmic copper]

but #2 means we wont get gradient roles for the 12 member colours

[willow cedar]

i thought 2 was to just edit main roles > gradient so we don't need to make 18 extra's to then figure out for role edit bot

[cosmic copper]

i thought #2 means we'll have a selection of gradient roles, unrelated to the 12 member colours

[willow cedar]

oh

[cosmic copper]

@edgy sand pls confirm haha

[willow cedar]

oh yea i see that option isn't there

[graceful lava]

this is what discord is gonna turn into soon

[willow cedar]

true

[cosmic copper]

fr

we're all walking billboards anyway

[wise vault]

3 point hp bar for every warning til you get 🏌️‍♂️

[fading apex]

I'm a purist, I will stay burgundy.

[edgy sand]

yep, will just call them LOONA probably but specify what colours they are, just some fun stuff not related to member colours

[lusty trail]

I wonder what the worst gradient color combination would be

[vague crest]

scammmmm

[cosmic copper]

black & the dark mode background grey

[latent depot]

Does anyone know if there's a way to turn off the multicolor effect for yourself? Like so I don't have to strain my eyes figuring out what the colors are HAHA

[wise vault]

in accessibility settings there are settings for role colors

[willow cedar]

nop

[wise vault]

oh yeah for multicolor so far none

the "show role colors next to names" setting shows gradients though

[willow cedar]

lol

[cosmic copper]

that would make sense if you're colour blind and need all names in one colour yeah

[keen token]

18 new roles seems like a lot of work

[edgy sand]

We'll be able to organise it!

[scenic bramble]

i like the main-colour-to-lighter-colour option that jumpy has over the colour-to-white that dust has. feels like white contrasts too much with the main colour and it doesnt add any visual interest for me. more feels out of place

for group colours my suggestion would be to keep it like jumpy's by only changing lightness/saturation, and maybe shift the hue a bit to add visual interest (e.g. a hint of purplish hue to the red colour will add more visual interest than simple red to light red)

the full gradient that connor has would be nice for the ot12 loona role i think

[cosmic copper]

i just realised

i'm now a role model

[obtuse palm]

you are gorgeous dust, can i have your autograph

[cosmic copper]

let me ask my manager 🏃‍♂️

[edgy sand]

That's some good info. I'm thinking I'll leave the holographic role maybe for a prize when we do April Fools stuff, but we can implement the other two

It may not be until the weekend but leave it with us

[lusty trail]

Loonacord card packs with a 0.2% chance to pull a holo role

[graceful lava]

0.1% chance to pull a help trainer card

[jolly rampart]

btw gradient is misspelled on the yves and jinsoul test ones

[edgy sand]

thanks! We're having issues with adding new roles/role category to Orbot, so for the time being we'll just add the option to gain these roles to id:customize - I may be able to get it done today

[willow cedar]

lies

(i hate english vocabulary)

[fading apex]

Translation: Next week, probably

[edgy sand]

Gradient roles are live through id:customize! We're giving Nicki some time to respond and if it doesn't look like that'll happen, we'll find an alternative role-picker bot and set it up properly

[cosmic copper]

will yall be adding gradient roles for the groups/units too?

[edgy sand]

Just added, sorry about that