#230807 Berlin - Kesselhaus
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OEC IN BERLIN

Berlin 7th August 2023
Ticketing Vendor: Eventim
General Ticket Open Date: June 30, 4:59 PM (CEST)
Ticket Link: TBA
Tier 1 - Standing
Tier 2 - Standing (Balcony)
There isnt a real Seating Plan so this is just a picture of how the venue looks inside.
https://www.eventano.com/app/uploads/2022/01/Palais-in-der-Kulturbrauerei-Berlin-C59A-800x500.jpg
so proud
thanks connor
third
slay
https://www.kesselhaus.net/de/info-kesselhaus
Looks like they'll have roughly 800 standing tickets. Getting tickets is gonna be a bloodbath. 😅
the rest will be balcony probably
I always ask myself whether a tour with such large halls is worth it at all
price will decide if I'll go
i don't know why but i feel like the prices are gonna be relatively low compared to other kpop concerts
I think too but if they aren't I won't go
yeah agreed but for me it is too much effort.. of course it would be cool to see the (probably) new songs live, especially because you rarely get the chance, but the effort to get one of the few tickets and all the other things, i don't know man
I think I'll decide at the last minute
yea im like that too
im still unsure
but I missed out on loona last year already
so I'm thinking about it
F
it would be nice for you yeah
still a 7h drive for me tho
ooof
if it was frankfurt it would be easier to decide
since that's not that far
but berlin is also far
and I'm already going to berlin in september for aespa

and i complain about a 3-4hr drive

ohhhh also going to aespa


i think my last reason for going or not will be if i like the new songs
oh they probably will, but one person always sells a ticket cause they can't attend
true
but yea idk yet
definitely going to aespa bc I'm going with a few friends and we bought tickets already
but bc this is I'd say more niche I'd likely go alone or with one friend maybe so idk
and the long drive still a thing I don't like

car or train?
it's 7h by car and not really faster with train
just go zoom and you will drive 5h
ok checked again and it doesn't really make a difference when it comes to the time
train is cheaper
true
oh yeah you have to do that at least once in your life
also I hate long train ride which doesn't make it better
munich is also shorter bc u can probably take one ice and be good but for me I first have to drive to a bigger city that has a direct ice connection to berlin
which sucks bc I live in the middle of nowhere

ok it's also 100km closer to berlin i just realized
thought it was about the same
first time ever going to berlin
the way im more concerned about finding good food spots than getting the tickets 
there are a lot of food spots in berlin
good food spots in berlin?
i do hope the shopping district in berlin is worth it 
i really enjoyed the Japanese food ._.
first day probs photography & trying to buy some albums, 2nd day walking around and then evening concert, 3rd day ive got no clue what to do
sleep
same
kurfürstendamm probably
with loona concert i survived since 6am ish till the end of the day and then casually woke up at 9am fhe next day
so 800 standing ?
no seating at all thats a bummer
i arrived home at 4am and had to go to work an hour later
i was also home at 6am or something

damn even worse
yuh
was awake for 24hours
with travelling included and concert i was wasted for 3 days

worst part is i stepped in and actually had holiday this week
i need my sleep otherwise I'm not functional
i would give you some energy but i barely sleep myself
yea I forgot 
if I sleep less than 6h my brain doesn't work properly
realized that today again bc I randomly got lost while driving today
be careful
Good morning besties
I finally made an MMT account after 24 hours after a German friend offered to let me use his number


dont forget to get ur daily make points
What do they get us?
I'll never have "most" in anything related to kpop. But presale links are fine, too. 😇
We shall see what shenanigans MMT is up to
Aight, I booked a hotel near the venue since it's still cancellable if I don't get tickets. Flights not yet because they are almost double the price before they have option to cancel. I'm just afraid how much higher flight prices go next week, currently they would be around 200€ which is not completely terrible considering the short notice.
What're the prices like at the hotel? I'm looking over options of which one to book before the concert too
154€ for 2 nights, got it through booking.com. You can just type in the venue name and zoom out according to how far you're comfortable to being from the venue and then list by price.
Dormitories are way cheaper but I don't trust people
Shiiit i see, not bad
I'll definitely look around through all the options, i'm planning on getting there maybe two days before the concert and staying for one day after
Aye, I booked one day before and leave day after the concert, I'm planning to book flight to berlin around 7 and leaving preferably later like 19-20 so I have time. I could stay longer but I really can't think of anything to do in cities. Maybe if we figure out activities together I can stay for longer
LOL the only reason i'm not leaving the morning after the concert is because i know damn well my ass would oversleep the flight
My sleep schedule is ungodly
Aye, the hotel stay just gets real expensive fast the longer I would stay
True that too, i'm trying to keep this under a relatively tight-ish budget
Got a mate in Berlin who said there's a hotel around the middle of the city for around 30 EUR a night
Not sure how far from the venue, though
What the hell, is that really a hotel with your own bathroom/shower or a dormitory type thing? Hit me up if it looks promising, would be nice if I could stay little longer due the flights being expensive anyway
For sure brother, i'll keep you posted
LOL right there it is, reason it's so cheap is because it's a shared hotel room
25 dollars a night is not worh it bro
Yeah that's what I thought, sounded too cheap to be true. The one I picked wasn't the cheapest hotel but for me the best value considering the distance to the venue is walkable, which I like so I don't have to rely on possible transit issues
Totally get that
I found a pretty solid one at 200 EUR for 3 nights, about 30 minutes to the venue via train
Aye that's pretty reasonable. My choice would be 247€ for 3 nights, google says 22 min walking distance. I'm not 100% sure yet if I will go, definitely interested but have to see next week how things evolve.
Fingers crossed you can make it man 🤞
First things first, getting a ticket 
Me fighting the <1000 other people trying to secure tickets for that small ass Berlin venue
Aye tickets availability will play a part of course. But more about considering if the trip it's worth around 500-600€ for me. Kinda expensive, but there might never be another opportunity so I have to value it from that perspective. Also gotta plan something interesting to do in germany to make it worth it.
I always try to get hotel rooms ASAP and cancel if I happen to not get tickets. Hotel prices tend to go up, once tickets are available.
Not for smallass concerts such as this in a city with as many hotels as Berlin
That's more for big stuff like, you know, Twice and such
that can still be expensive depending on the budget you have
im also already looking for potential flights or train tickets because if i dont do that now i’ll pay double the amount a month later
i feel like we’ll have to fight a shit ton of people bc why does it have to be 1k only aaarrgh
does anyone know what the cheapest region within berlin is for hotels but still close enough to the city center?
looks like i cant repeat my frankfurt move and just take the last train back
I technically can, but I don't trust the DB enough to take the late night train
Especially with the general strike at our doorsteps
Hopefully that's done by the time the concert happens
Needs 75% yes votes to happen, I dont really see that happening, but yea youre right
Flixbus Ticket is 15 bucks, maybe i just get one as backup lmao
Just gotta factor in the extra time, ye
i’m thinking on going with the ICE from rotterdam to berlin
if that doesnt work i have no choice but to go by plane 
Unfortunately you never really know when the strikes start
Or concludes. Unlike with warning strikes the general strike usually doesn't come with start & finish announcements
It just happens and you're fucked
Aight so are the tickets refundable?
Never went to a concert before and I have to be sure
Some have ticket insurance. Read the fine print, maybe you'll get your money back, if you're sick. But if you simply change your mind, that's probably on you.
Can always just resell your ticket though
Is the balcony just open for everybody then?
You think its not gonna be open at all?
maybe wheelchair?
idk. Maybe it's too hot up there mid summer or something
Wheelchairs can't even get up there I'm pretty sure
rip
These are such nice places, too
smh
You see everything, albeit from the side
Either way, these prices are atrocious
80€ for tier 2, bugger me
Get scammed I guess
Watch them announce vip tomorrow
High touch time, woohoo
They will probably sell that seperately because of Eventim though
High Touch with 3 people sounds hilarious, gonna be like 10 seconds total
i better hope they get vip
reason why im going tbh
even tho last vip wasnt worth it for like 7 members only but ig it is what it is
I mean, they do it with 1 person as well (like with Sunmi)
Free money
Excuse you, Yves gave me a heart
yves n lip werent there when i had hi touch
but at least i got her signed kcon so ig that makes up to it screw u bbc
same for haseul who had to go and yeojin who sat out sigh
i hope vip will be around 120 max
Cant wait to get scammed on the merch on top
i wanted to skip on the merch but hey maybe there is something cheap
like a keychain for 70 euro instead 
ah yes gotta love that
ohhh you got your parents allowance?
my own money
also my dad didn't allow it yet (guess being an adult doesn't matter anymore
) but if i can make my siblings come with me it might work
ahhh kk, still let me know if ya need help with something
will do
but i actually have a good feeling about this
just need to justify the costs 
im sure youll be able to go
Hiz definitely needs to move out rather sooner than later 
Tier 1 is gonna do a lot for you, when you're in fifth row compared to anyone in tier 2.
80 for this venue kinda scam
Trust me, in this venue tier 1 doesn't do shit
No barricades between tiers in this venue. Tier 1 just gets to enter first
I know. You either stand directly in front of the stage and have no one in front of you or you're all the same, regardless of tier.
question for those who were at last year's concert in berlin, does the translator speak english or german?
German
last year i went to amsterdam and it was translated to english so im wondering if it's the same
oh fuck
Last year's concert was in Frankfurt btw (an objectively better location)
ah oki my bad
be my translator i will pay in chicken nuggets @drifting veldt
ill translate without payment

well you gotta deal with my quiet voice irl so you might not understand when everyones screaming around us
Ill just write it on my phone and show 
im almost definitely coming and i hope my cousin can come too
real
DMAN
wonder if there will be fanmade banners again
your turn to make some
I DID LAST YEAR WYM
I KNOW DO IT AGAIN
neeeee
The economy man
I'm going to be frantically looking around the crowd for the dude translating what OEC is saying on his phone

Lets hope they dont translate to berlin
Can I ask how they look? 
it was the adam miffy banner
this one
Will we do fan numbering?
I hate that
The whole "I get there early to get an inofficial number, then bugger off again" concept is just as bad as the "randomly camp in front of a venue like a homeless person" thing
This is why seating only is always the better option. No one gets the weird idea that standing in line for that long for a concert, in the middle of summer no less, is a sane thing to do
Never considered myself sane
Fair
I hope you have a very strong bladder
I somehow did it in Frankfurt
Dunno how
You have no idea how happy I was Frankfurt had seating
I saw them up close at high touch, must suffice
How was it

I felt so sorry for her
Seating is great, till the people in front of you get up to get a better view of the stage and therefore force you to also get up, if you want to see anything at all.
People in Germany don't really do that though unless it's super hype song or the end of concert
Does not align with my experiences.
My gf also was like "What sense do seats make, everyone gonna be standing", but that's absolutely not the case (also not at Frankfurt for that matter)
basically people who wanna stand will buy standing anyway
I guess things might be different in fully seated venues
No, cause in the pit they won't see shit. Better to buy seats and stand there. The view is better.
If someone in front of me ever stands the whole concert I will simply tell them to sit tf down
Has yet to happen though
If you're a big guy, you can do that. Good luck if you're a little girl.
People will still listen to you if you're angry enough most of the time
But ye, generally speaking if you buy seats, stay seated
Unless it's a "everyone get up now" song
Like, if you're supposed to be jumping you can't exactly stay seated 
Not that any of this is an issue in this standing only venue
My old bones are complaining already
No. There we'll all equally see nothing unless we happen to get barricade or to be very tall.
True, but mostly because dipshits can't help but film throughout the concert blocking what little view there was 
I had an amazing time there for the DC concert
Don't get me started on that. Pay 100 bucks to watch a concert on your smartphone's screen. You could have gotten that cheaper and without annoying your fellow fans.
This is why I only take quick photos here and there
And make sure not to annoy anyone while doing so
omg i still have these <3
Kinda my plan tbh
It's really sad living in Munich as a Kpop fan, NOTHING EVER HAS A CONCERT HERE
Bruh atleast your country gets concerts, i havent NOT flown to a kpop concert in 9 years 💀
I'd have preferred an Amsterdam date for this one. Actually a shorter trip and more interesting city. 
real my nl heart is hurt
Man's got BEEF with Berlin
It's just inconvenient as fuck to get to and not particularly interesting to stay at after a couple times
who doesn't ? 
Feankfurt >>>> Berlin as concert location
Up to and including for people who have to fly in
Damn, the more you know
Always thought Berlin seemed nice
Then again, haven't been anywhere outside of Serbia so anything that's not an Eastern European wasteland is awesome to me
How is frankfurt generally in terms of accomodation price?
Im going berlin in september for twice/gidle and it was mad
Just booked accommodation and transport (adam to berlin) and im ngl its quite expensive than what i thought it would be
but i think thats because its already june so the prices are automatically higher compared booking 5 months prior
it kinda sucks the tour was so sudden
facts
i agree bc if it was Frankfurt I would go
way closer
I live right in the middle so it makes no difference to me lol
i hope that strike isnt going to be annoying for u guys
Dont think itll affect me
No station stop except for one
I stay in the same train
(hopefully it wont affect it)
Incentivizes me to vote against the strike for sure lmao
if thats true i’ll try to go for plane tickets if possible and cheap enough
Weird position
because i dont want to travel 8+ by train if that happens LOL
that's what I would need to do to get to Berlin lol
I understand that berlin is impractical for many
But im so glad bc I live here 
oh you decided that you won' go?
Are we just not getting vip info?
In FFM it came a few weeks after purchase of tickets as well, IIRC.
Oh youre right
F for you, yeah i also won't go
Gotta make us buy tickets first
rip
blame it on mmt or whatever trying to scam us

but yea I don't see me driving that long and paying 80 bucks for that venue
Leroy doesn't love Choerry 
Frankfurt is even farer away than Berlin for me so noooo
but hey the ticket sales should be today
not me camping the ticket selling website because im scared
The tickets won't randomly go on sale 9 hrs early, chill. 
ill be camping as soon as it hits 4 pm
Man fuck I am so busy I hope I can make it
Unbusy yourself 
Okay Grumpy go cook for two whole families then 
Tell them to stir for 5 minutes while you buy tickets
Also valid
Not really
aw crap
And this concert wouldn't be big enough for one anyway
that means getting every device ready then
I guarantee you there is no actual need to worry tbh
i hope so lowkey sweating a bit LOL
wait why cant i buy help
No
The reason is Miidnight KR time, so Modhaus have something to post instead of teasers 
watch them post vip /jk
pun intended or not?
Kinda nervous even if I know they aren't big in Germany especially now that it's just the three of them
But still
I just need one ticket
my math incapable brain thought oh 16:59 ? ah yes thats 4 pm
Math? Never heard of her!
That was unintentional. I am not that clever. 😇
If only half the people that went to FFM wanna go to Berlin, we're in trouble.
Just thinking about it stresses me
And the people who could help me have left
So godspeed
How could somebody help you here?
We either get tickets or we don't.
fingers crossed...
Same
Cook while I go buy tickets
Constant nausea
Note yet again btw: If there is balcony available for choice and you're not gunning for front row, pick that. You will have a better view from there.
It's gonna be a bloodbath. I predict technical issues, just to make it more interesting for us.
I hope there's balcony available
Not me refreshing the website
Buying tier 2 btw
You're making it sound like we're ticketing for Taylor Swift or something. It'll be fine
So am I, I have no intention to fight for front row
Do that too often and get a captcha, when it really matters.
I have a phone, a tablet and a computer running
I just have a computer. I don't want to bother with touch controls.
Phone
7 minutes...
They know it's a small venue, so they just have a potatoe as server...
wonder if it actually opens on the 59
Pretty sure eventim has no problem with weird time requests
They get those all the time
and they're not ticketmaster
real, im in ireland 
good luck to everyone<3
3 minutes
me too
You're still too early
Only paper tickets? Germany living in the past
You guys do the risks or nah
Tier 1 tickets worth it or nah?
yes
Closer to the stage so your pick, not much of a price difference to me if you're still going
only realized that now?
I assumed so but it's still funny
Yeah, this was super easy.
standing only also helps
got the tickets
dont have to worry about bad seats
35 euro delivery to ireland...
103€ for everything
It's an Eventim thing, but honestly, given the trouble I've witnessed people have with e-ticket only admission I don't mind
actual robbery
Plus I like keeping tickets anyway
me too
I still have the loona one
ok, tickets can sell out now
I have mine
I got ticket insurance as well, never know when the covid hits and those 10 bucks really don't make a difference any more when you pay 200 bucks anyway
Me too bc I'm paranoid
me too especially because i meed to take a 6 hour trip to berlin
Aye, but could just be e-tickets with paper as an option
and at 300 euro 14 euro arent a big difference
Looks like we all got our stuff. Very nice! ☺️
yes
As much as I'd like to go see them I just can't justify 600€ trip right now
LETSGOO GOTTEM
Why was it 92 tho instead of 80 duhhh
Which status has your order? Is it still in work?
idk if this is a thing w kpop but these tickets are really expensive
Ticket fees. Normal stuff
And yes, Kpop tickets are an overpriced scam
Por favor
damn
Absolutely
They know they can do it to us cause FOMO
As i said they know we are willing to spend a fortune because of 1. recent events 2. Some of us have been following loona for a long long time
But alas.. ill see if i can get them.
Question for the people that have been to kesselhaus before, is there an option to rent a locker?
Concert tickets cant really scale with group size
As long as you got your email you're good
No lockers, but they have... idk, is it just wardrobe in English?
Well, paid service for that
Yeah, that
Siiick
Ah thatll suck because i have to bring my carrier sadly
Might just ask a hotel nearby for rental or something lol
Just use a locker at the train station
Just fyi i was dumb enought at frankfurt's concert to bring a camera and they confiscate it
So idk. Dont bring cameras
Yeeeeah, make sure to read the FAQ that they will release to see what the venue allows
good luck berlinners
Idk if you went to frankfurt's, but some people at tier 1 got camera and they even got like fancams
And like very hq pictures of members. And those were not fansites
Like random ass people on twitter.
They're OK with polaroids
I mean, if you're good at it you will be able to bring your camera in
Yeah they probably snuck it in
Me i was tier 2 so they were looking more throughly for our personal belongings
Alexanderplatz has lockers
The train station
It's 11 min
From where? venue
Yeah
i wont be at the venue till like 6pm probably
my travel time is very hectic
oh yeah i dont have public transport card 😭
i travel from NL
i’ll just ask easyhotel if i can rent a locker, did that in adam as well so im sure they got one close to the city centre too
It's 4€ I think
thanks! will note that down
Deutschland Ticket ftw
happy to help
Never gonna bother figuring out local tickets again
I shouldn't have skipped out on German class in school bro
That was nice, ye. But even the current version is cheaper than my usual monthly ticket would have been, so there's that
The privilege of not thinking about train tickets 
My brother still refuses to drive but I will make him
But if not guess I gotta drive to Berlin myself
You could still buy tickets, so there really was no need to rush.
My anxiety was for nothing
Their sales in the first hour: 📈📉
If there are still tier 1 tickets when the album drops and most of it is bangers then I will consider going. What they will play is too big of an unknown considering the travel prices for me currently
Still surprised they haven't sold 800 tickets, yet.
Did the Fandom take such a hit?
Compared to last year? One vendor was already sold out, when regular sales started. Luckily there was a second vendor... Now that I think about it, only seats were sold out, not standing tickets.
don't think it's the fandom I think it's the fact 1. it's a subunit, 2. nobody even knows what songs we're getting as nothing has been released, 3. ticket prices are high especially when there are other groups touring at the same time that already announced their tours much earlier
I imagine sales will go up again once promos start
those of us buying tickets rn are just going in blind, for the price a lot of people can't justify that
Also 4. The promotion for this was non existent, 5. It's on a Monday so anyone with school or a regular job can't really go and 6. All of those who are off school/job for their summer vacation had plans long before
I'm not complaining that they're coming, but expecting this to sell out within minutes (or at all, really) was never realistic
So we'll just go, enjoy the show and cheer them on, no matter how many of us are actually there 
means I can get slightly less crushed in the standing area at least
and my bf will hate me a bit less for not getting balcony seated
letsgoo my troll height can perhaps see shit
intimate concert venues are generally a better experience anyway
I'll just stay close to the bar again. It is mid summer after all
This, in the span of 2½ months
Twice
Red velvet
Gidle
3 Days in amsterdam
6 days in berlin
There is more i would go to if i had the money
but everyone is going at the same time?!?!?!?
Ye, it's a lot
esp as people have been waiting years for a rv tour
RV tour date was the absolute and impossibly worst
Like, holiday weekend with other big concerts in Berlin and more importantly final day of the football season in Berlin of all places
And because its summer and in touristheavy cities, you cant exactly hold off on booking flights either
Couldn't have been worse if they tried
You either slam €100 before tickets are even out if ur lucky, or wait and slam €500+
also not everyone can probably afford a ticket and an album, some may prioritise one over the other
Money isn't even my main issue, time is
a monday date is harsh
If OEC didnt go to warsaw i would probably skip this, london/berlin is 3-4 times as expensive to get to
All i know os that there is a lidl so im good
the notice doesn't give people to plan sufficient days off really esp in the middle of summer when you're fighting for annual leave against ppl with kids on school holiday
I'm just lucky the uk date is on a saturday
Not to mention getting off work, if ur working at something remotely big where HR planning is important, summer months are usualyl sorted in feb/early march
last year the loona tour was announced months in advance so that was fine too
yeah, like at my work people prebook summer weeks off pretty much a year in advance
and mondays/fridays are usually always taken for the long weekend
I actually think album sales and ticket sales are doing fine under all the circumstances for a subunit that's not been a thing for 6 years
I also dont mind these venue sizes, the best concerts in my experience has been those with 1500 or less ppl
It's not a great date, but I'll manage. Just can't request these random days off too often, cause me doing it rarely is the only reason I usually always get them
Which is why aespa and Idle will just have to happen without me cause everyfuckingone is going to Berlin
Last year Frankfurt blinked into existence for a short while. It was nice.
Listen man, at least you have amazing internet
and a dying currency, energycrisis, soaring taxes because of decades of imcompetent governernments 🙂
But you can stream effectively. Rejoice. 
manchester had its existence acknowledged once by blackpink
never again
london only after that
well bp was a couple of years after that but yeah
not like the loona venue got shut down a week after for crowd crush deaths or anything
I just hope oec venue has nicer and better staff
berlin venue being smaller is for the best for that reason imo esp with mmt
The venue is ok. Not amazing, but ok. I just wish they had sold balcony as well because, you know, it's right there.
Berlin venue stage looked really low which is not great for visibility
Makes no sense not selling it
Woulda paid 20 bucks more for balcony without hesitation
maybe they'll open up the balcony if it sells?
Who knows
I think tickets will sell once the album is out and promos get going anyway esp for the smaller venues
Wait
How
Isn't it limited at all
Because that's where there is most money to be made and there are no fixed spots
So if there are more Tier 1s that just means more tier 1s enter the venue before any tier 2 gets in
DC concert in this venue was like 70% VIPs
(you could tell by the length of the lines)
Interesting, so the more people buy tier 1 the worse both tier 1 and 2 get
It be like that
Granted, due to how MMT is splitting VIP/tickets nowadays there is less incentive to buy tier 1
But either way, that never runs out (unless venue sells out, which is unlikely)
The Pinks have been to Cologne last year as well. Last year I was in Berlin, Cologne and FFM. This year only Berlin. But hey, at least they're coming to Germany.
I'm especially happy that JYPE has finally seen the light and are sending their big guns to Europe. Seeing how their concerts are selling out I hope that this will be a part of their regular future schedule.
Damn, my ticket already arrived. Surprised considering shipping to Serbia usually takes a couple of lifetimes no matter how small the package
damn i dont have mine yet and i live in germany
bruh what paper tickets? 
Mine arrived today as well. And it did not leave the country.
is anyone going for the m&g?
Fuck no. I'm not paying 179€ extra
yeah its so expensive..
I will say though everyone who bought VIP 1 is royally screwed if they don't buy it
Cause all these people who buy M&G gonna be in there even before them
It's like they're putting scams on top of scams to scam some more
just have to hope that only a few people buy it
And buying the lower tier is an even bigger scam
modhaus needs a wake up call 💀
You know, if had known they'd do us this bad I wouldn't even have bought tickets, cause fuck this
Right
Granted this is my first concert i've gone to in over a decade but i feel like it shouldn't be 360 EUR for tickets alone
It was 160 for tier 1 for me with taxes and shit included
That sounds wrong
but it didnt have early entry i think
The purest form of farming kpops parasocial aspects
Because you high five your faves, uwu
Im skipping vip this time
not worth the money
i didnt even pay that much for vip last year
the normal ticket alone is already a big L
There wasn't any. You got scammed. Everything for the girls, amirite
it says if you have m&g and tier 1 you get even earlier entry than just m&g and tier 2
M&G tier 2 actually has to leave the venue after soundcheck, which is the biggest scam of them all
Because then you have to line up in the queue that is outside
seriously? 😭
Which means you will have the worst spots
i thought you can just stay inside
Tier 1 can, yes
Would be solved with actual sections but alas
sounds like hell for the staff and organizers
I'll probably do it.
It's a chance to be close to 3 Loons for a couple of seconds. Worth it to me. I don't need to eat every day... 😇
well everyone has their own priorities 😭
Trust me you wont even remember what happened a day after
I remember the hi touch with the members last year, lasted not even 10seconds in total
And there went 150 buckerios
I still remember the m&g from last year. 😇
Just make sure to go all the way if you do. Tier 2 is not worth it. (neither is tier 1, but at least you get something for your money)
m&g last year was pure hell, staff was rude and pushy, members were done and exhausted which i cant blame em for and the people in queue were pushy as well
never again 
really hope itll be managed better for those that have hi wave this year
Eh? Staff was fine imo
Ur lucky then
Some stops had horrible staff (perhaps venue staff) but ye it was ass
:’) but concert was a lot of fun, cant complain
Well, I can only speak for Frankfurt, obviously
Are you gonna bring your Loona lightsticks to the concert?
(I never thought I would be able to use that thing again, tbh.)
Personally not a huge fan of them, but if you brought yours last year, I would say do it again
No reason not to
Are you gonna wear the cloak again?
yup im bringing mine!
sadly havent seen anyone wearing the cape last year, hope to this year lmao
I will at the very least bring the cape again, yes
Omg, not me thinking about refunding my tier 1 ticket and getting tier 2 + mg

my tickets already arrived 2 days ago and even if i had tier 1 i wouldnt get m&g
also why the fuck are lightsticks so expensive
MMT can keep their scam, tyvm
Cancelled my hotel reservation since tier 1 doesn't mean anything anymore without putting in extra 179€ on top, gonna buy a bass instead
Someone is getting it for my bday
That's fair
omg whens ur bday
28.08. so it's an early gift

yes but also other ones
i want to get the loona ls for the concert
does anyone know around what time the sound check starts
I think we'll get the info a few days before
But I think maybe 3 hours before
Check-in time for the M&G is 15:00 - 16:30. Concert starts at 19:30. I assume Tier 1 gets in an hour early. That narrows it down somewhat.
thanks ^^
That's tier I of the M&G people btw. Tier one of the normal concert goers still got scammed. They're merely the first in line when regular entry starts
There's no tier I and tier II in m&g. There's odd and circle. Let's try and not mix up the designations. It only leads to confusion.
If you wanna be like that what you said is just plain wrong
Cause again, the concert ticket tier 1 holders are merely at the front of the queue. That's your early entry.
Unlikely. They'll probably have their own queue. Do you want to push all the tier 2 peeps back, because a few new tier 1 peeps arrive and need to put into the queue?
I got tier 1 and circle tier bc I like being scammed

It'll be interesting to see how the whole thing will be organized
I know that venue and I've been there for a MMT concert. There is no room for 2 queues. It's 1 long queue that goes along the street.
Will they just check the tickets and let the tier 1 in and tell the tier 2 to go back in line until all tier 1 are in?
We'll see. Since you have circle m&g it's not your problem, anyway. 😇
You'll be in the venue, when that problem is sorted.
True, but I'm still interested how itll work
Im just gonna waltz in at 7pm
I'm glad that I'm not in this mess
How many circle tier people will be there, I wonder
Hopefully less than 200
At least 2.
The mess is how much MMT scammed people, not the queue itself. I guess the one upside is that you won't get any "I camped there since 9am" people because there is no point in doing that
Just pay 179€ bro or else you won't be getting anywhere near the stage
Not so sure. If there are 200 circle peeps, the first one still gets the best view.
Point is, no one will camp there from 9am til, like, 6pm when they open the venue for regular tickets
I just hope most people aren't as irresponsible as me to buy the circle tier
well that is also questionable because it will be summer break in schools by then and they have a lot of teenage fans..at least they did in frankfurt
You can still buy regular tickets, btw. Still not sold out.
Maybe it's just us 25 people from the cord. 🤪
(They're not gonna sell out)
That would be both tragic and funny
Does anyone have a hotel recommendation by any chance? I suppose I should start looking into that 😆
I think most will be fine since you won't spend much time there anyway
But I liked the intercity hotel
im gon stay at easyhotel, both close to some sightseeing places and the venue (about a 20-30m walk) and in front of a metro station as well, rather cheap as well! I know a lot of people go for ibis / easy hotels since its usually cheaper compared to other ones
Was struggling at a last minute booking bc of the prices, but then that one popped up and i was like yup this is it
Thanks! Me and a friend booked there as well, easily the cheapest option we came across and good location too 🙂 btw, it said during the booking process we'd have to pay in advance but then no option for that came up; was it the same for you? 😆
Yeah, i booked via the easyhotel app, but i didnt have to pay anything so im assuming it’s paying once you arrive on the day. Though it said you can check-in one day before arrival via the app so maybe then it allows you to pay, not sure though!
For everyones information, professional cameras arent allowed. but phones are.
There is a wardrobe which you gotta pay for tho but you can storage your bigger backpacks or bags in their
That's good. If you plan on buying merch you can store it there for the duration of the concert.
But if you buy merch and then have to store it there you lose front row privileges 
We are in berlin, you put a towel down and reserve your spot
If you try that in Berlin your best case scenario is a taken spot and a towel with less than kind words written on it
I won't be front row anyway. 😔
Lmao, they couldn't forbid phones
They should forbid filming with phones though so that everyone can watch the concert in peace without a phone in their face. 
Good luck. In the end only you and me would still be inside, while all the other fans have been kicked out. A nice thought, but not likely to happen.
Oh I know, but one can dream
True, I hate when people record the whole thing
Maybe snap a few pics and call it a day
I'd like to have a professional recording, they could even sell it after
Yeah, they (obviously) do not have enough new material for anything like that
My most played Blu Rays are concerts. You can actually see the artists. 😇
Btw, if anyone goes alone to the concert and has tier 1 + circle tier:
hmu, we can go together if you want a friend for a day 
Are there any dutchies who r going to the berlin concert?
yuhh me
are camping chairs allowed in the queue?
They can't exactly forbid those outside of the venue
no but its pretty poor behaviour to do it and then just leave the camping chair outside since u can't take it in
Well, you definitely can't take it in, won't make it past security with that
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Well, "poster". That thing has postcard format, right?
only odd tier
Best part is, wtf are you gonna do with a wholeass poster that you have to carry around for 6+ hrs in the first place 
Basically gotta go and lose the scam spot in front row and use wardrobe to store it there
Postcard fits into pocket.
Not the kind of pockets you have in a mid summer 30+°C concert going outfit, no. Even if it actually were postcard format (which it probably isn't, even mini posters are usually, like, DIN A4)
And the signed tour poster isn't that small regardless
It says postcard size. I think odd and circle get the same "poster", just circle get their signed version after the concert.
Or maybe not. Maybe circle gets something different after the show.
PS: Circle gets B4 size.
it says you get the poster after the show
not before during soundcheck
exactly
Well, then it's just not actually a poster, no matter if they call it that or not
A poster just is not pstcard size
That's... a postcard
Which honestly is besides the point, you still don't have the pockets to carry that around during a summer concert
Much less safely
well the person in front of me in frankfurt managed to sneak in their big backpack anyway cuz the security didn't care
tbh I prefer when they care, less chance of people throwing stuff at the idols
On the other hand: They can't throw stuff, when they're busy filming with their phones.
Unless they start throwing their phones
Which people have relaly been obsessed with doing lately
I still have to see that.
Really? Folks have done that? I thought the phone was sacred.
I think it was at Bebe Rexha's show just a week or so ago that someone threw a phone and hit her right in the fance, she was taken to a hospital right after
People are fucking crazy man
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They were mandatory for the hi touch, though. So better bring one, just in case.
Approximately 6 people. That's quite a low number to not be sure about.
Probably just to cover for the leftovers
Just be considerate and bring a mask, ye. No need to give OEC the plague, the girls have things to do.
How was it handled at the fan sign?
When will the damn tickets arrive
You still don't have yours? Mine arrived, like, a week ago
Yeah same
Nope I got nothing
They told me two weeks ago that they send it yet nothing arrived
Seems like they got lost
hmmmm, i would message the support
hope they can manage to get you the tickets
Yeah it's kinda ridiculous that they seem to be lost
Kinda hate that the m&g thing is a digital ticket
The M&G ticket is MMT so yeah, it would be
Mine arrived on the 4th of July.
I hope they send out a new one.
I like the digital tickets. No risk of losing them in shipping or me not having my shit together and leaving it at home.
There actually is a post it on my door, saying "Remember the ticket".
I just like little paper things
I mean, you're supposed to print out your digital ticket anyway as a backup. I've seen so many people having problems because they only have it on their phones and then something doesn't work.
And a paper ticket is just a better version of that that you can collect
noooo thst sucks
Well, you're not getting customer support on the weekend
Ofc but I wrote to them days ago
so like are lightsticks allowed?
I've yet to see a kpop concert where lightsticks are not allowed. That's like: No loud music, please. 😇
I'm asking bc it's not official oec merch
That's not relevant
You can bring any other group's stuff, really, there is no branding police in the venue.
But if you're worried about member feelings, they said lightstick is ok, but don't wanna see capes
wait really?
Ye, they said that on fab/fromm
also the reason for it?
Not really. The capes were a wee bit silly though, admittedly
agreed
when?
https://twitter.com/litell_johnn/status/1676613741016674304?t=-f2zRvev9f_cjz5bVxfPOw&s=19 think this is the closest
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As if the people at the venue knew. 😇
As long as you don't bring that very long staff. What was that? DC?
She endlessly extendable shaft of the DC staff
anyone know where i can get loonas lightstick which will deliver to germany quickly
so before the concert
They have one left. lol
They seem to have a few more. And they ship from Denmark, not Korea.
https://imusic.de/merchandise/8809361029314/loona-2021-official-light-stick-light-stick
thanks a lot
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I’m selling 2 tickets (tier 1) for Berlin. Dm me for more info 🩷
is the reusable bag supposed to be a tote bag
it isn't right like its a bit different
I think it might be one of those bags you can fold up into a tiny ball or something store it wherever (considering the second pic or i might be wrong)
it looks like a reusable shopping bag ngl
My brain cannot come up with a way to connect that Front and back side
If it is that. We have no back of the shirt as well. Maybe there's two kinds of bag.
But then again, a bag is a bag. I just googled it and apparently tote bag just means bag to carry stuff around.
Yea as opposed to bags not for carrying stuff around, duh
25€ for a tote bag is a scam
for 5€ u got a tote bag and can print the logo yourself LOL
true
What if it rains when we all stand in line for hours? We're all gonna be sick afterwards. 😔
Rain is better than 30°C sun
So there's that
Plus if it's not as hot climate in the venue will also be better 
you can atleast carry an umbrella
(and people will be less stinky)
Can you take it into the venue?
you can atleast store it in the wardrobe
^
And lose your spot in front of the stage.
Shocking absolutely no one. Realistically they'll just do pretty much everything
Whats gonna be the lip/choerry duet tho
love letter and puzzle please
16 songs that's basically all their current and old discography without the intros/outros + all their solo titles
..and more i wonder what that'll be
when will you guys arrive to the venue?
idk maybe an hour before entrance or something
Between 15:00 and 16:30.
No point in coming too early for people without M&G anyway, so I'm not gonna rush
I might only arrive like 30 mins before entrance bc my ICE got switched 💔
well I wanted to arrive only one hour earlier anyway but still
maybe those 30mins will make a difference
AN HOUR
pee break first sir
dang from which station do you get on with ICE?
DUDE IDK WHEN YOU WANNA GO THERE ITS YOUR CALL ASWELL
as long as i got my snackies and pee break idc which time
well its good that we are together, so if you need a pee break the other can just wait in line yk
yuhh
Have they still not answered
Mannheim -> Berlin
Actually one before that too but it's like planned
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Basically they're telling me that I can't get the tickets back
And they will composite me in a few days
Wow
Fuck you too
Wow that sucks
Yeah.. Did you buy train tickets or a hotel room too?
You might be able to get a new ticket from a reseller?
That's what I was thinking too
Idk it seems to be too late but i can check
There is maybe someone who lives in Berlin that you can pick it up right away or beforehand
Good luck
WHY TF ISN'T THIS STUPID COUNTRY GIVING DIGITAL TICKETS LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE
They'll be back for more concerts.
How big is the chance that a ticket gets lost in post????
And why did I have to be the victim of this chance???
We will see about that
I even got free days at work for this
Ah fuck I shouldn't vent here
idk if you can try this
you can maybe print your ticket or something
Nah, that sounded like the eventim ticket part is done
Can really only hope to find secondary market atp
Hell, it's definitely not sold out, you might even be able to buy tickets at the Abendkasse @hazy lake
Just send the venue a mail and ask if they sell those
Not certain how quick it'll ship considering my country's fucked sometimes, but i had to cancel my concert plans last minute and i've got my ticket if you haven't found any other resellers
Because they're stupid mfs or smth
Would be great but i wouldn't have high hopes since it's five days till the concert










