#Tech Support

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olive dune
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yep sounds like pump failure

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it would not get that hot otherwise

crude oxide
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yeah usually clearing the dust filter and/or repasting works but not this time i guess

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good excuse to do no work tomorrow though

zinc kestrel
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assuming you have it plugged in to the correct pump header on the board

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time to get a new one

crude oxide
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ye its always been fine

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cant get a replacement aio though cause its part of the h1 kit

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at least a whole new kit is like 50% cheaper than what i paid in 2021

zinc kestrel
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time for a whole new pc

crude oxide
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5600x and 3070 should last a while yet

zinc kestrel
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might be under warranty if you bought it new?

crude oxide
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its out by like 16 months

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could probably complain under cga but ill figure that out when the new one arrives

olive dune
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this is why im not a fan of those multipart kits, one thing breaks and it's a proprietary design so you need a whole new case

crude oxide
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id love to do sff properly

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like those fancy steel cases

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but its just so difficult getting the right parts here

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barely any mobo/psu/cooler selection

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even my intel macbook is struggling just upgrading devtools lol

olive dune
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damn

restive vessel
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OH MY

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Pumps are finicky, surely the solution is pnp. Pump failure ain't no joke

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As for desire to run sff, from experience I will say it is borderline a novelty idea. Unless you're undervolting, these powerful components inevitably radiate their losses from being in a tight chassis

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aircon being on during working hours helps for intake temps but that's a pain of you're tight on utility costs.

crude oxide
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gpu has a whole panel to itself and never goes over like 60c, it’s just the cpu that needs the dust filter cleaned every few months or else it starts choking on heat

crude oxide
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yeah it was 100% the pump lol

zinc kestrel
restive vessel
fathom star
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heyo

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im trying to get my sim card out of my phone

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what do i do if i dont have the special needle thingy

zinc kestrel
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or anything small and pointy

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or go to any store that sells phones

fathom star
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just found a paperclip

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it worked :D

storm shore
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looked up saying its cuz of drivers. updating monitor and gpu one atm. monitor one takes forever it seems never installed them

zinc kestrel
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bluescreens are the worst. I just resolved one on my pc last week apparently Logitech GHub drivers cause issues sometimes

storm shore
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had one last week aswel, which i ignored as didn't get to see the error

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afaik once a month blue screens aren't too big a problem

zinc kestrel
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I mean if it doesn't bother you it's not a problem, it does mean something is wrong though lol

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but it's not like going to hurt anything else

storm shore
zinc kestrel
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a blue screen does not fix anything, it just logs information

near meadow
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previously i had some issues with logitech but now it's all good. maybe just drivers and windows updates eventually fixing it for me

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ah no it was not logitech bluescreen it was the logitech lightspeed vs the nintendo switch wifi clashing on the same frequency therefore causing signal issues

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for bluescreen yea it's just windows and driver updates

echo oriole
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some hacker or someone keeps spamming me with microsoft codes with my gmail

near meadow
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you can block the email sender but i guess your email has been part of some data breach or misused by services you signed up for

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for me i create a filter and auto transfer the spam emails to the trash if it matches a certain word / phrase

echo oriole
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Oh

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How do you do that

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Slr

near meadow
# echo oriole How do you do that

for me i have thunderbird app, there i can set up filters so for example i can block all emails mentioning a certain app or bank that i don't have

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or you can also block by domain name since sometimes they keep creating multiple emails from the same domain that they bought

echo oriole
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thank you!! sorry for late reply again

echo oriole
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does anyone know why some microsoft word documents aren't able to be viewed when saved from gmail?

crude oxide
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probably .doc vs .docx

echo oriole
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oh, thanks

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yeah, thats probably the reason why

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thank you so much :)

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now how do i convert it to .docx

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hmm

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its not working bc the google doc im saving it is .doc

crude oxide
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is the original .doc or .docx

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it should load into google docs just fine

echo oriole
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the original is .doc

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and im trying to open it in microsoft word docs

crude oxide
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.doc already is a word document

echo oriole
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oh

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then why isn't mine working... :/

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maybe i should reinstall word

crude oxide
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whats the source

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like were you sent a .doc file over email

echo oriole
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i was sent a .doc file over email

crude oxide
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or are you trying to export a google doc into word

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right

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try opening it in google docs

echo oriole
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that works

crude oxide
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what happens if you then use google docs to save it as a word document

echo oriole
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the same thing happens

crude oxide
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weird

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not sure then tbh

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i just use google docs for everything

echo oriole
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maybe i should uninstall it

near meadow
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best way to dispose a borked sata hdd? mine just gave up one morning and my pc cannot detect it anymore. i tried checking it again like in the device manager it cannot be identified. it was an older 2tb seagate OliviaCry

zinc kestrel
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you'd have to look up somewhere that can recycle it locally

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or just toss it

near meadow
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i feel uncomfortable to just toss it without fully destroying it. i feel like they can recover data still. not sure if i had my personal info there or just games

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i'll try to find the first option i guess

crude oxide
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throwing it at concrete should be enough to destroy the platters

zinc kestrel
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put a drill through it or smash it with a hammer if you're worried about data

near meadow
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if i don't find a local service I'll go break it open then dump it chuukek

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dun want someone to randomly take a loan under my name NGNLAAAAA

crude oxide
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zeroing out the drive is usually more than enough

winter ingot
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If it were me I'd hook it up to another computer and diskmngr it

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or cmd > diskpart to see if there's anything going through it at all

near meadow
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that i do not have but maybe i can try with my friend's if i'm not lazy to go out on the weekends

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but i think it's kinda similar because i did the same with my pc, moved it around with the sata connector and still not detected in diskpart

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so i feel like it's totally borked

restive vessel
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I imagine fire does better to silicon than smashing the disc

dull scaffold
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have you tried changing the sata connectors

restive vessel
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I would also look into the cable and/or port

storm shore
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so i bought 2 new Ram sticks exact same as my current ones to increase total ram capacity, but it seems i have 2 faulty dimm slots.
already been using my mobo for 3years without having known so cant bring it back.
spend 2/3h finding out they were faulty lol. the new ram sticks work perfectly fine on their own in the dimm slots i have always already been using so its not that.

guess i have to upgrade to 2x16 instead of an additional 2x8 and send these ones back

zinc kestrel
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RAM is always the worst

storm shore
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task manager now shows all the ram commited, but that is not correct now

storm shore
# zinc kestrel RAM is always the worst

ram harder to figure out esp considering how many diff things it can be yeah. but it being mobo is so much effort if i decided to replace it. do not have the energy nor am i willing to spend the money on a new one. maybe in another year or two when i got money ill just fully upgrade

zinc kestrel
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Committed probably includes stuff like pagefile not just actual RAM

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mine says 48GB but I have 32 in RAM

storm shore
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okay so i can ignore that

crude oxide
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yeah mines similar

storm shore
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how areu using 24gb jinstoic

crude oxide
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i have like 20gb allocated to wsl

storm shore
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oh linux isee

crude oxide
storm shore
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oh man, 72,90 euros for 2x16gb 3600 ram. that is a steal. is only 22 more than what i spend on the 2x8

crude oxide
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i only have two slots so i had to get 2x16 to upgrade 😔

zinc kestrel
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ram is fairly cheap right now

storm shore
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well i got 2 faulty ones so iguess same

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ordering this: Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 2x16GB 3600
had it in the past with 3200mhz till i got the same, but rgb version 3600mhz.

zinc kestrel
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that's pretty much what I have in mine idktbhprollyanod

storm shore
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yeah, mine have all been working fine so no reason to go different

storm shore
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there we go although it saying 27,4gb is kinda low

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windows using a good amount

restive vessel
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Reserve.

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although if I'm not mistaken you can check/uncheck a setting that displays the gross rather than net available

storm shore
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havent gone to the gym for a few days, but going tonight as rain stops at like 11pm it seems.
since i woke up my thighs have been hurting and got no clue why jinstoic

restive vessel
storm shore
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oh didnt realize the chat lmao

restive vessel
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could be a variety of reasons. Though I have something of a tech related solution now

storm shore
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ah related to the reserved stuff

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speccy shows it fine. intresting to see that it reads my faulty 2 slots too

winter ingot
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HELP needed:

Now that everyone """""""should be using""""""" Firefox because apparently it's the next best thing, I need to be walked through on how to migrate *literally everything, yes even that one.

I did the "Import" button but I lost all my sign ins. I have several sign ins for work and I don't want to do the hassle of relogging in tens of work accounts from various sites. Anyone can help me?

near meadow
quick mango
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I use bitwarden to manage my info. Just install and login on each to save the passwords and users. The install on Firefox and sign in. Should save some hassle

near meadow
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i have keepassxc for pc and keepass2android for my phone

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then i keep my database and key in onedrive so both would be synced everytime

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although... it's troublesome for me if i need to change my password for onedrive

storm shore
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same

crude oxide
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underclocked to the most afterburner will do and it still crashes lol

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time to buy a new gpu

near meadow
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random but please congratulate me for finally getting proper internet again that's over 50mbps (this time it's 200mbps) coming from 10mbps. finally won't lag anymore when watching concert streams or any streams 🥹

crude oxide
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me when i got starlink

near meadow
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there's starlink service here too but i think that requires installation of the dish or something

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another telco got their fiber laid out in the apartment building so they get dibs

crude oxide
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i just have mine sitting outside with the cable running out a window lol

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i miss having gbit fiber but this is better than 8mbps adsl

near meadow
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bro i experienced 2.5 mbps

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i play ragnarok and that's it lol. reading manga is painful. full chapter take like 10 mins

dark idol
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hey a friend's pc wont turn on, the pc itself is able to somewhat boot up but the monitor registers no signal and they cant get into bios either. they have 850 watt psu so its not inadequete power im thinking it might be mobo? but unsure since i cant tinker with it directly

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mobo also has these 2 red flashing lights when turning on, i had same issue but it was cause psu wasnt outputting enough and upgrading from 650 to 750 solved it

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but this isnt really same issue

crude oxide
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look up the manual for the mobo model

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it should have something in it about the leds flashing

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like when i bought mine 2 years ago, a certain sequence of led flash meant my cpu wasnt compatible with the preinstalled bios, so an update fixed it

dark idol
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ill pass that off to them then

restive vessel
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on MSI I recall it's DRAM related. reseat RAM if yellow/orange light usually

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I personally would just reseat it before looking at anything else. Same slot, single slot, or other pair of slots.

Second would be to check if GPU is in it's slot all the way. If the display-port/HDMI is shite. All parts that need to click in (including power cables) should be securely locked in place; thus, should post.

If not, take out CMOS battery, put it back in, and turn on to check if it's BIOS setting related

near meadow
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forced to clean the keyboard because for some reason the coke bottle that i so carefully opened still ended up spilling everywhere

crude oxide
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😔

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my first custom i spilled an energy drink all over and fried it 😔

near meadow
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ouch

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i am kinda worried a bit if it will have an effect overtime

crude oxide
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does it still work?

near meadow
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i got g915 keyboard from logitech

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yea but i kinda see some droplets inside the keys already

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switches i mean

crude oxide
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you probably wanna get some alcohol and clean up the area it dripped onto

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corrosion is usually what gets you

near meadow
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so i went and took the keys off to wash and then for the keyboard itself i cleaned with alc

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did that but now that it got wet and not just humidity i guess soon i'll see some corrosion like half a year

fierce iron
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Long shot, but if you have any experience with replacing GPU fans or troubleshooting gpus;

Long story short, GPU fan was grinding and stopped spinning, ordered replacement, I got it spinning today and it was working really well but in the middle of a test it popped and grinded really loud so I started replacing it and now it's back to not spinning at all with the new part

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What can I do to troubleshoot? It's plugged in and works just fine it the fan just isn't spinning

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(also pls ping reply if you do because I'm gunna forget i posted this)

restive vessel
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They are meant to be kept cool. They are one component in the task of power delivery among the VRMs (Voltage regulator modules). The circuit leading to the fan header may be collateral as a result

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How long have you run the graphics card with a beat fan? @fierce iron

fierce iron
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for awhile but the temps never got bad

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the voltage in afterburner reads that it still goes sometimes

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at least when it was working

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its just flickering around rn bad screenshot but

restive vessel
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interesting

fierce iron
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even without the fan it was never going over 60-70

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because i was watching the temps fairly closely

restive vessel
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no smoke or smell?

fierce iron
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it got to 90 sometimes but i always stopped before it was prolonged

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nah

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im thinking if anything it was a dud replacement

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but there's no way to easily test

restive vessel
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That can be it also

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But copper wire going pop?

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unless it is the component that sends electricity through the coils. But you would hear a buzz from it

restive vessel
fierce iron
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it wasnt replacing any of that it was just the fan itself

restive vessel
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yeah I'm just saying it could be one issue, causing a short if it's done out

fierce iron
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ah

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should there be voltage at all?

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like should it actually be 0

restive vessel
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no. It usually shows current voltage haha

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I use afterburner to monitor mine when benchmarking. Never see it at zero

fierce iron
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im gunna work the temp up to 65 and see if i see anything

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yeah absolutely nothing

restive vessel
fierce iron
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which means nothing even when it hits the minimum

restive vessel
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do you have any other software that can monitor voltage?

fierce iron
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other than afterburner?

restive vessel
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yes

fierce iron
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not that i know of

restive vessel
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GeForce overlay?

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alt + R

fierce iron
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im not in a game so i dont think itll come up

restive vessel
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if it's on advanced/full display it will always show clocks and voltage

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example

fierce iron
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i cant screenshot it because its disappearing before i can lmao

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but there's like 1v

restive vessel
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ahh okay

fierce iron
zinc kestrel
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voltage monitoring doesn't always work, mine doesn't either

restive vessel
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mmhm

fierce iron
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so theres... something..

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but its just not kicking the fan on

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i could try reseating the connector again even though its fine

restive vessel
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try it ye

fierce iron
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its such a pain in the ass to do this lmfao

restive vessel
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take apart the fan if not fixed

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hahaha

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technology is a pain in the arse

fierce iron
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they didnt design this shitty card to be fixed

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its very clear

restive vessel
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what kind of 3060

fierce iron
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Asus single fan

restive vessel
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oh wow

fierce iron
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I pulled it from a pre built PC I bought for my mom during covid

restive vessel
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it seems there are quite a few fan-related replacement issues with thw ASUS PH Single fan 30 series card

fierce iron
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Hm

restive vessel
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if anything. Spraying electronic component cleaning solution from WD-40 or white lithum grease through a nozzle can clean the original fan's bearings

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I've had that as the solution on two MSI cards in the past

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dust and such can put a halt to such components

fierce iron
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still nothing after reseat

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should i try the old card again and see

fierce iron
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im like 90% sure its the fan itself and not the card because it works just fine

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including running games and everything

restive vessel
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ye it could just be the new fan

fierce iron
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if it was a power issue surely the card itself would be malfunctioning as well?

restive vessel
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there are multiple VRM phases so the issue would be harder to detect without full throttle

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an engine can run with a dead cylinder. Same case, but this is not a definite issue we have found. It is just one type of part that could've went "pop"

fierce iron
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wd40 "specialist electrical cleaner" ?

restive vessel
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indeed

fierce iron
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electronic component didnt exist so

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lmao

restive vessel
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my can is faded. My bad hehe

fierce iron
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i didnt really wanna go outside again but i guess i can

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if itll work lmao

restive vessel
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I sure hope it does

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🙏

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if it doesn't spin. We're farked

fierce iron
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Well I'll test the old one first and it's just grinding then I'll go try cleaning w wd40

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This is what it sounded like

restive vessel
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oh, not dusty

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bad bearings oh no

fierce iron
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Should I scrap the wd40 idea then

restive vessel
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possibly

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the noise is the issue of the bearings just grinding

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only fix is replacing the bearing since it's sealed, it was a fault of the manufacturer. New fan is already a fail

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bad luck oh no

fierce iron
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Wait wdym

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New fan is a fail

restive vessel
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the noise of the old fan will not be fixed I do not believe

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the new fan isn't working is what I mean

fierce iron
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Oh gotcha

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Yeah

restive vessel
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I don't believe tinkering to be a hobby of yours, correct?

fierce iron
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Is that the bearing

restive vessel
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yes

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you can blast that if you want. See a preview of if any type of mineral solution would work

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try isopropyl alcohol if you have it. Spin it with your fingers

fierce iron
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Is that little chip there supposed to be

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At about 2oclock

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Or is that the damage

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Looks like copper but I'm not sure

restive vessel
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The fan on the blown one would need to be taken off the retaining piece (what you're holding) to find out if it was the brushless fan motor that failed

fierce iron
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I'm not inept I'm just not trained, if that makes sense

restive vessel
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understood, an act of necessity.

fierce iron
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Well the old one is spinning

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But it'a not happy about it

restive vessel
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since you have two

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of the same fan (I think)

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If you want. Swap bearings

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salvage from one to fix a better unit

fierce iron
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how would i even replace the bearing

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that looks really snug

zinc kestrel
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should be an easy video to look up

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probably is pretty snug though will just take some effort

restive vessel
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pop the old one out with whatever

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the new one should be done with a pen/pencil

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pencil is good. Graphite is a dry lubricant so that is a bonus

fierce iron
restive vessel
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oh yeah

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it has a lock ring

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a tiny flathead will get that out

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that ring is what keeps it in place from flying off the bearing

fierce iron
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am i gunna need a new lock ring afterward s

restive vessel
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if you break either one yes

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you have two in possession

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you can see the end of the ring. If it bends, bend it back flat

fierce iron
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so worst case scenario

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how would you recommend using a case fan as a gpu fan lol

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because ive heard that as an option as well

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but

restive vessel
fierce iron
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im honestly thinking about just buying a new card

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im pretty sure im just breaking this fan trying to get the bearing out

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which kinda defeats the purpose

restive vessel
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what are you thinking of getting?

restive vessel
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oh nice.

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if your CPU can handle it, I would look for the 3060 Ti model on used market

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the chips on those are just much better. Can be had for 250 USD if I'm not mistaken

fierce iron
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the lowest on newegg is 350 for used/refurb 3060ti

restive vessel
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I was looking at ebay and such

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I've bought a handful off there no issue as low as 200

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not nearly as sketchy as newegg can get with their, at times, grey-market sellers

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"open box"

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here are a couple on newegg for under $290 I think @fierce iron

fierce iron
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oh

fierce iron
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my only issue with refurbished and open box etc

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is how long til im doing this all over again

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lol

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i had my 690 for like 5 years and nothing was ever wrong but this part broke in like 2

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big sad

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!

restive vessel
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you bought a pre built pc that had that GPU, correct?

fierce iron
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yeah

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which is majority of the reason its bad

restive vessel
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ehehe

fierce iron
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at least im assuming

restive vessel
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no that is probably correct

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pre builders really don't buy the newest shit

fierce iron
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they cut so many corners to make these prebuilds "affordable"

restive vessel
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it saves money for them to charge retail+

storm shore
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@restive vessel uhmmm i am super confused rn

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u know the monitor talk last night

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just turned on pc still had it.
decided ill just swap the display cables of both my monitors, eventhough i was sure it wouldn't make a difference

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uh

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now i got 2 perfectly working monitors just from putting cable 1 > 2 and 2 > 1

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same two cables, but diff monitor and problem gone???

restive vessel
storm shore
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it is very confusing. same 2 monitors and cables, just swapped which cable goes into which monitor

near meadow
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maybe it's more of how the cables are seated

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like is it making contact properly

restive vessel
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Perhaps it was a fluke of inconsistency in the cable's job

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transferring data/power/etc

winter ingot
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ahaaa

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Driver conflict thingymajig

restive vessel
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Funny thing happened this week that I forgot to share

After installing new parts for a fresh build from scratch, I got a BSOD FATAL SYSTEM ERROR from a fresh install.

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Very nice

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all the components I've taken off the motherboard work individually.

storm shore
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pain

minor ember
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Im really done with my pc atm

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i donte ven know what is going on but its so annoying

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in every possible program, its not even limited to games i get like micro freezes every 15to20 seconds randomly sometimes more sometimes less, my gpu and cpu arent at high usage at all, my fps are also fine in all games

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im like so confused from where this is coming from

crude oxide
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freezes or stutters

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like how long is the freezing

minor ember
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its really really short

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like

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as short as possible but noticable to it being annoying in fps games especially

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it even happens in like discord when i scroll the channel list or something

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as in my pc skips a frame sometimes

crude oxide
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do you know how to use the windows event viewer?

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could be a ton of different things so you just gotta start ruling out parts one by one

minor ember
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okay what do i do in event viewer

crude oxide
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windows logs -> system

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look for any error entries

minor ember
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like those

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it says fehler but its error yea

crude oxide
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does the time correspond to the stutter happening?

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like this is when my gpu crashed earlier

minor ember
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uhmmm

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maybe

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im not too sure but i wouldnt say no

crude oxide
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id just start ruling out parts one by one

minor ember
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ahhh i know why its showing that

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cause i disabled the gamebarpresencewriter

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and when starting stuff the error appears

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every error is the same basically

crude oxide
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what cpu do you have? if it has onboard graphics you could switch to it to try ruling out your gpu

minor ember
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I have an Intel Core i5-8600k 3.60GHz overclocked to 4.4 tho

storm shore
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could be a dying drive

crude oxide
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plug your monitor into your motherboard for a bit and see if it happens

crude oxide
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might need to restart

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or maybe its been disabled in bios

minor ember
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ill restart

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Nop

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doesnt work

crude oxide
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all i can think of is try to reseat ram then

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(plug back into gpu)

minor ember
crude oxide
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taking it out and putting it back into the slots

minor ember
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yeeting open my pc and change the slots

minor ember
olive dune
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itx moment

near meadow
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at least it's just gpu and fan and not the cpu cooler. it's annoying when you can't turn on the pc long enough to heat up the thermal paste. could possible break some pins if not careful

minor ember
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okay i managed to do it

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but idk yet if it fixed smth or not

minor ember
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Quick question

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could my mini freezes be caused by something audio related?

zinc kestrel
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I would probably update your BIOS and all your drivers

minor ember
zinc kestrel
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do you have Logitech G Hub installed?

minor ember
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ye

zinc kestrel
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uninstall that and see if it fixes your issue

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it's been known to cause stuttering for some reason

minor ember
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i need it for my mouse settings tho

zinc kestrel
#

which mouse

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a lot of them save the settings on the mouse

minor ember
zinc kestrel
#

yeah that should let you do that

minor ember
zinc kestrel
#

you might have to do something specific in ghub to save it to the mouse, I forget

#

either way probably worth uninstalling ghub for a bit to see if you keep getting stutters then you can rule it out

#

I refuse to install it again after my issues went away lol

minor ember
#

ah okay yeah that workd

#

i also read something about realtek audio manager causing these issues

#

its unfortuante that it could be a so many thingas

winter ingot
#

@iron pendant Yo I kinda want to find out what's the hottest mobile brand is it on your country

#

And what brand do you find your circle use the most

#

Excluding iPhones

iron pendant
#

Huawei or Samsung

#

both work tbh

winter ingot
#

Huawei?

#

Wait

#

Fr?

#

Didn't those don't got Play Store?

#

It doesn't here

#

Sales of Huawei in my country outright DECLINED when Play Store got removed

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Cause almost nobody here can really adapt to Huawei App Gallery

#

Even tho we do support it, almost all local apps are in HAG

iron pendant
#

oh nvm

#

i meant

#

xiaomi

winter ingot
#

Right now, Xiaomi and Oppo are skyrocketing

#

Ah

iron pendant
#

not huawei

winter ingot
#

Lel

#

I see

#

Are most of the Xiaomis are Redmis or POCOs?

iron pendant
#

Last year it was Redmis

#

POCO seems to gearing up tho

winter ingot
#

Makes sense

#

Because POCO seemingly is laser focused on "internationalizing" Redmi devices

iron pendant
#

poco at that time was pretty new to the scene

#

in indonesia at least

winter ingot
#

New but immediately got big

iron pendant
#

the specs are really huge, but in cheaper price

winter ingot
#

Official stores here however don't carry it in big stocks

iron pendant
#

thus why it got many enjoyers

winter ingot
#

Most of it are online

winter ingot
#

Some China only Redmi models are like

#

Bang of the buckenest devices

#

So what I am realizing recently is that the good stuff China gets

#

Rest of the world gets it also, but later, and with POCO branding

#

RE : Redmi Note 12 Turbo

iron pendant
#

yea

#

basically that

#

interesting stuff is that redmi focuses on the camera more than the chipset

#

while poco is more to the gaming scene than the camera

winter ingot
#

For example

#

My phone's twin is Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G

#

Friend literally has that

#

Camera is as shit in video

#

Photos are fine

#

But POCO leaning to the gaming scene is accurate

#

See : POCO F4 GT

#

Oh yea

#

Why do you stick to Samsung?

storm shore
#

stopcode: irql_not_less_or_equal
and stopcode: memory_management

near meadow
#

no hardware changes and no overclocking changes? then i guess it's needing replacement for sure

storm shore
#

sfc /scannow thingy found and repaired some corrupt files and updated some drivers and did windows updates. so hope that solves it Shrug

winter ingot
#

Windows Memory Diagnostics

storm shore
#

no i did do some dscim or whatever cleanhealth command though

#

i wont have time to use pc for extended amount of time till thursday to see if it will reoccur for now anyways

storm shore
#

been a few days, but now got system service exception bsod stopcode.
didnt have any problems last few days

#

got this now trying to do the sfc scannow command

storm shore
crude oxide
#

if you really want to try testing your ram, you might want to run memtest overnight

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the one i tried had to be run off a usb and took all night

storm shore
#

lol the same second i start windows memory diagnostics it mentions there being hardware problems

#

doing the extra tests aswel iguess. no idea what these all mean, but might aswel

#

i should prob swap back to my old ram and run the test againg

#

once this one is done. curious what it can tell me

crude oxide
#

hoping i get a response about my gpu this week

#

said 5-15 days after sending it away to a tech and its been 15 days now i think

storm shore
#

problem not found yet?

crude oxide
#

not yet no

#

i was hoping they'd find an issue and refund, give store credit or replace it with something cost or class comparable

#

didnt even think of the prospect of a service tech fixing it

storm shore
#

prebuild?

crude oxide
#

nah just gpu was crashing

#

bought a new one and the crashing stopped

storm shore
#

hope my 3070 lasts another 3 years. dont wanna upgrade with how crazy todays energy consumpion is

crude oxide
#

40 series is more efficient i think?

storm shore
#

last i saw all the upgrades needed including new mobo ram cpu etc too insane

crude oxide
#

my 4060 is like half the size and consumes 50w less than my 3070 but performs about the same

storm shore
#

assuming that i do need a new mobo for a 40 series

crude oxide
#

why

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pci4?

storm shore
#

idk if they use a diff slot

crude oxide
#

they're pcie gen4 but i dont remember if they saturate all of gen3 yet

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i think im running mine in gen3 mode cause the riser cable is only gen3

storm shore
#

oh my mobo has pci 4 i think

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hmmm, got my mobo when 30 series was just new. didnt think pci4 was already a thing

crude oxide
#

it can run in gen3 mode just fine

#

its not like cpu sockets where you absolutely cannot run am4 cpu in am5 slot

#

for example

storm shore
crude oxide
#

yeah youre fine with any gpu

storm shore
crude oxide
#

data transfer speed

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example numbers but say gen4 maxes out at 100gb/s

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gen3 might max out at 75gb/s

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if you set your gen4 gpu to run at gen3 speeds, it just runs at 75gb/s

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but i dont think there's any gpus right now that max out gen3 speeds

storm shore
#

assuming 4.0 also means gen 4 any reason to limit to gen3?

crude oxide
#

not really

#

mines running at gen3 despite motherboard/gpu supporting gen4, because im using itx and need a riser cable, and the cable is only rated for gen3

#

other than that i cant think of anything

storm shore
#

ah okay

storm shore
#

test been stuck st 21%. this is gonns take ages huh

storm shore
#

well, swapped in my old ram and doing the test againg.
atleast it doesnt detect hardware problems from the very first second

#

so def faulty ram

#

wonder if i got any warranty on that thing

#

10years cool. time to learn how returning something works

hidden star
#

Hellaur

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My PC shat itself

#

Mobo kermitted and fried all my storage in the process

#

Anyone got good recommendation for mobo + ssd(s) + cpu with a budget of 1k

near meadow
#

1k usd is alot. you can get like a B series motherboard + 1tb sata ssd and ryzen 7

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you didn't mention gpu so i guess those are the only ones you need

restive vessel
#

B650E (E being a revision) + a Ryzen 5 7600 will do. The board uses newer DDR5 RAM though, I'd say 4800-5600mhz is a good bet, they're mid-speed and known to be stable on AM5. I go with most Corsair sets (vengeance lp usually is fine)

as for SSD? maybe 1tb in a samsung nvme, cooler is preference

balmy gust
#

just don't forget a reputable power supply, if you still don't have one

restive vessel
#

absolutely

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I've ran an exact build like that with a 3070 off of a 460W supply for a week just for shits n giggles.

Anything reputable with Japanese capacitors in the 600s will do

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EVGA supernova (650-750) are quite nice, even used they're reliable.

hidden star
#

How does this look

#

I will keep my gpu (2080) and case

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And fans

storm shore
#

u also got a cpu cooler?

hidden star
#

I have 2 (maybe 3?) fans in my pc currently

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Is that not enough?

storm shore
#

just fans and specific cpu ones are not the same

hidden star
#

Ah

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I mean i had a prebuilt

#

So i believe one of the fans were cpu specific

#

Not sure of the compatability with this cpu though

storm shore
#

should be yeah, but u might want to look into that and double check

#

if it is an aio might want to replace it anyways

hidden star
#

What is an aio?

storm shore
#

is a water cooler

hidden star
#

Oh

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Nah it's not water

#

I dont have my desktop rn, it's at best buy so cant take a look tho

storm shore
#

looks like this

hidden star
#

I dont mind spending a bit more for some good cpu cooling tho

#

Nah it's just normal fans

#

Updated with cpu fan

#

I mean pcpartpicker says no compatability issues? But how does the build look

storm shore
#

seems good

balmy gust
#

uhh, might also have to check for clearances with the case. especially with the cpu cooler

hidden star
#

Would best buy know if i went in and showed them the parts list

storm shore
#

don't know your case name to look it up?

balmy gust
#

or at least the pre-built unit you have

hidden star
#

I know the prebuilt yea

balmy gust
#

that case looks pretty thin imo

#

but if your unit is with best buy, i guess you can try to ask if it would fit

#

Here I'm unboxing and installing the DeepCool AG400 CPU air cooler and showing you how to do the same. I'm using at Z690, LGA 1700 motherboard along with a setup that includes the following specs:

Case - NZXT H7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLV7AfF4VEk
Motherboard - NZXT N5 Z690 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syg3VHU7UEc
CPU - Intel Core...

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the cpu cooler is pretty chonky, the video i posted used an NZXT H7 for the case, comparing it to the omen you link
the nzxt case is 230mm thick, the omen is around 165+mm. the cooler height is already at 150mm, so i'm doubting it would actually fit

restive vessel
#

from experience they'll be marching well into the top speed on a 280+ watt capable CPU if the air temperature isn't below 17°C
Deepcool AG models are also a noisier but higher air current fan than the AK models

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so if fan noise is a potential thing you dislike joesmokestand

restive vessel
#

the fans can also be moved down the sink height for an additional ~8-12mm of clearance because they clip onto the cooling fins

balmy gust
#

mhmm

hidden star
#

I live in texas

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Do you have a recommendation in that case

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I dont care about noise as much as heat

restive vessel
#

Yes, the AG620

balmy gust
#

just basing it off of provided specs, but yeah, can make sure with the items available physically

hidden star
#

If i can cool as much as possible then that would be good

#

Because since i live in texas it's already hot asf, my pc usually heats up my room by another 10 degrees

hidden star
#

Am i dumb

#

I only see the cooler changed

restive vessel
# hidden star I only see the cooler changed

2.5" SSD being over 100USD is wild in my opinion but that's just me. Save a few. Slim down to a gen 3 NVME. RM750e changed to an RM750__X__model with superior capacitors for the same exact price.

hidden star
#

Oh it's dual nvme

#

Oh sick, thank you!

restive vessel
#

👍

#

two less cables for the build very nice

hidden star
#

What's the point of the psu swap?

restive vessel
#

The electronic capacitors are sourced from a different company that has stricter quality control

hidden star
#

Ahh ok

#

And the cpu fan, what makes it better? The rpm on the one i selected is higher, so wouldn't that be cooler?

#

Like i said my priority is getting it as cool as possible, idc about noise

restive vessel
#

it's 2 fans in a U-shaped cooler

#

if you don't need RGB it's cheaper to go with the normal AG620 and does the same job

hidden star
#

And a full mesh case off of amazon, since i got the non rgb version of the fans

restive vessel
hidden star
#

All the amazon parts were 1 day delivery and the newegg was like 2-3 weeks

storm shore
#

nice, their sending me a new set of ram tomorrow yerimmm hope i can use these without problems

near meadow
#

omfg no trades? just brand new?

#

lucky. which ones did you get again?

storm shore
#

what do you mean trade?

near meadow
#

like returning the faulty ones

storm shore
#

oh yeh i did send those back

#

their just sending me new ones in exchange

near meadow
#

oh ok but i guess they took care of the shipping

storm shore
#

yes

near meadow
#

awesome. which brand again?

storm shore
near meadow
#

oof nice

storm shore
#

had them for 6 months then iguess they became faulty

#

well, 6 months later getting a fresh pair is cool iguess

near meadow
#

mine is gskill trident running on 3200 only. i get problems when it goes higher

storm shore
#

nice

crude oxide
#

my gpu came back and the techs couldnt find anything wrong with it

#

my brother has been using it in his pc all week with no issue

#

so i have no idea wtf is in my system that could have made it crash, even across windows installs

restive vessel
#

not enough power?

crude oxide
#

thats the thing, im on a 650w psu and hes on a 550w

#

5600x vs i7 8700k cpus tho

restive vessel
#

hehe

#

power curve on those middle-level PSUs shouldn't be too different so perhaps not where it fell short

#

I've never really had to deal with crashing that was not induced by aggressive overclocking methods so I cannot really put a finger on it

crude oxide
#

yeah its weird

#

i was undervolting it too

zinc kestrel
#

I had to swap out my 750W because my 3080ti had spikes that would just shut it off

storm shore
#

he using it nearly as heavy load as you are?

crude oxide
#

yeah i got him to load up palworld maxed out

#

which for me would crash within minutes

restive vessel
#

perhaps it's because it just wants to run the factory numbers

crude oxide
#

i think undervolt crashes would result in a different kind of error though

#

which is why i tried it

restive vessel
#

screen flickering black usually no?

crude oxide
#

for me it would be the driver crashing which would result in the game crashing

restive vessel
#

hmmm

crude oxide
#

the usual "renderer lost" error

restive vessel
#

I see I see

storm shore
#

put in the new ram and just running diagnostic just incase. atleast in bios and task manager everything was right

dark idol
#

Anyone know how to dump/extract firmware from a device?

winter ingot
#

Woah

#

Very broad

#

And really depends on the device

dark idol
#

itzy light ring 😭

#

i wanna modify it

olive dune
#

you won't be able to do that unless it houses a flashable microcontroller

winter ingot
#

If you can find out the schematics of the lightstick you can probably try to switch out the capacitor/transistor to get a different effect

#

But I wouldn't recommend it

#

If it all ends onto one IC, abandon project immediately

near meadow
#

it might work like replacing the ic with your custom one and then program it however you want but it requires you to know the data sent by bluetooth so you can still control it as you like

near meadow
#

random but anyone experiencing these buffering moments in YT even though your internet is fast and it already loaded a decent amount of the video? i feel like it has something to do with what yt is experimenting on trying to bake in the ads into the video itself so it's harder to block

storm shore
#

dads pc has these weird yellow marks all over and cant find anything about it

near meadow
#

pc? feels like laptop ribbon issue with the strips of leds failing or something

#

since it's pc and i suppose your dad didnt tinker with the cable or anything and it just appeared overnight, maybe it's driver issue?

zinc kestrel
#

definitely could be cable issue

#

if the screen looks fine when it boots up and only goes bad when it gets into windows then it might be drivers

zinc kestrel
#

I had to start using chrome just for youtube

near meadow
#

ah that might be it i am using firefox

#

i was like buffer is correctly loading, and it also skips after like 5 seconds into the video

zinc kestrel
#

yep all kinds of freezing and buffering issues, it's firefox

storm shore
#

he said his pc got stuck yesterday so force turned it off with power button. now we got this issue so was thinking gpu

#

if this has a gpu idk

near meadow
#

the slot for gpu is different anyways

zinc kestrel
#

technically still has a graphics driver of some sort either way

#

even if it's just intel one

storm shore
#

intel core 2 duo cpu e8400

near meadow
#

yea could be monitor cable or bad driver

storm shore
#

never heard the name

near meadow
#

core 2 duo jeebus that's ancient

storm shore
#

lol

#

touched cable and now it all red

zinc kestrel
#

launched in 2008? I'm surprised it even runs windows still

near meadow
#

ok then it's cable related

#

wait not necessarily cable related but connectivity related because it could be the slot/pins whatever this monitor uses or it could be the cable

storm shore
#

u know if it had dedicated graphics tbe cpu?

near meadow
storm shore
#

ok no wonder

#

tried connecting to mobo the cable lol

zinc kestrel
#

was gonna say I didn't check but I doubt it

near meadow
#

so that has to be a dedicated one

storm shore
#

hmm wiggling doesnt get me the screen back we stuck on red now

zinc kestrel
#

might have to re-seat the gpu itself

#

maybe got knocked out

storm shore
#

this thingnhasnt moved in 10y

zinc kestrel
#

could also just be dead

storm shore
#

wish i had a spare avg cable

zinc kestrel
#

but I would take it out and put it back in, and maybe try a new cable yeah.

storm shore
#

got no other cables sadly

#

even my old 10y monitor has hdmi

zinc kestrel
#

I was literaly throwing away vga cables when I moved I had a pile of them

storm shore
#

man i hate opening old pcs

#

requires so many steps

near meadow
#

time for an upgrade maybe. get a super cheap one that doesnt need alot of work

storm shore
#

i remember when i installed the ssd in here had to break open side pannel as the normal way thingy is broken

near meadow
#

what's good with old pc cases is that there are no acrylics/tempered glasses nothing to break chuukek

storm shore
#

he bought this many years ago for 150

#

he only does microsoft word and solitaire lol

near meadow
#

dang a bargain

storm shore
#

this thing even still has anntenas

near meadow
#

maybe you can buy something for 400 it'll last for a while especially since it's probably for email browsing and word documents

storm shore
#

yeah it is literally used just for that lol

#

he can prob get another for 200 from some guy he knows where he got this one from

#

right gotts figure out how i pulled off the side panel last time... supposed to pull open with a pull of the handle, but nope. life aint that nice to me

zinc kestrel
#

usually a screw or two on the back even if it has a handle

#

then some slide straight back if it doesn't pull straight off

near meadow
#

you know those beelink mini pc ones like a good alternative to intel nuc? you can get that one and there's not alot of moving parts. just tape it good and as long as you dont smash anything into it it'll work fine

storm shore
#

this case is a optiplex 780

#

literally supposed to jump open

near meadow
#

200 for way better

#

although your monitor might need to go

storm shore
#

dont think newegg ships here. that country list is tiny

near meadow
#

ah yea but amazon or something

#

beelink is pretty popular

zinc kestrel
#

oh yeah those dell cases had little slidey things and the side just pops off

#

when I worked as a tech at my college we had tons of those

storm shore
#

just a bit of dust

zinc kestrel
#

i'd be putting that thing in the trash

storm shore
#

so i just take it out and put back in yeah

near meadow
#

air spray the dust out at least lol

#

have mercy to the fans

zinc kestrel
#

the dust certainly won't be helping

near meadow
#

i bet mine is collecting dust too it's just that it looks clean still because it has filters

zinc kestrel
#

video card might be clipped in somehow, dell always has proprietary shit

#

little lever or something to pop it out

near meadow
#

oh the preassembled stuff

storm shore
#

had a couple almost empty condensed air sprays left. chunks of dust attacking me now

near meadow
#

time to accept your fate and be one with the dust lol

#

just make sure not to inhale those and shower afterwards

storm shore
#

i cant get the gpu out lol

#

its completely lose but some crappy thing is holding on to it...

#

cant push it back in either lol

#

ok just pushed it back in idc anymore

#

aaa closed panel but forgot the 24 pin cable

zinc kestrel
storm shore
#

oh push up

#

i jusr pushed it sideways

#

whatever it got loose so good enough imo

#

this pc has no fans btw

zinc kestrel
#

should have at least one under the big black shroud blowing air off the cpu

storm shore
#

oh yeh just the thing

#

didnt help sad

zinc kestrel
#

lol

#

yeah I'd prob toss the whole thing tbh

storm shore
#

hmm its not going to desktop. it keeps redoing those 4 seconds u see in the clip now

#

stuck at this step then just tries to reload lol

near meadow
#

yea time for a new pc maybe a decent hdmi monitor too just so it's compatible with the slots

winter ingot
#

@near meadow Get NUCs

#

Unless your dad does gaming

near meadow
#

not my dad chuukek

winter ingot
#

LMAO

#

"Dad I promise this is basic"

near meadow
#

plus nucs are expensive so i suggested lake to get beehive

winter ingot
#

shows ROG tower

near meadow
#

it was a popular alternative

winter ingot
#

Oh it was Lake hahah

near meadow
#

ah beelink

winter ingot
#

@storm shore SFFs are good too

winter ingot
near meadow
#

yea

winter ingot
#

Hold up am I out of touch?

#

hold the fuck up

near meadow
#

beehive is only 200

#

nucs are like 500 minumum i think

winter ingot
#

this is 400

#

and that's on 32GB DDR5 and 1TB SSD

near meadow
#

not sure of the brand

#

thre are also some from msi and asrock

winter ingot
#

Oh you're concerned of brand.....

#

Welll fair

near meadow
#

yea since failure rate might be higher on nugu brands

winter ingot
#

But I have faith on Chinese products in 2024 if their copywriting is good

#

Because OEM

#

Things are interchangeable

near meadow
#

tbh nuc and apple mini are probably the only reliable ones and then beelink is the best nugu brand alternative

winter ingot
#

This is about 500 dollars

#

Machenike has good reputation here

near meadow
#

or at least that's what's being recommended if i search for nuc alternative

winter ingot
#

16GB DDR5 and 512GB SSD

near meadow
#

gotta go for bare minimum since it's only word processor and solitaire use chuukek

#

tbh maybe a 100 dollar samsung phone will be enough

near meadow
#

yes

#

thgat's what lake said

winter ingot
#

Only or """""only"""""""""?

near meadow
#

yea no one uses it except his dad maybe

winter ingot
#

brb finding Celerons

near meadow
#

they got core 2 duo right now

#

way ahead of you

winter ingot
#

OH WOW

#

Well this would do it

#

200 dollars ish

#

16GB RAM and 500GB SSD

#

(that R7 can still game but don't tell your dad)

#

Most of these mini PCs (nugu brands too) follow this kind of architecture so like

#

If things go wrong

#

Parts are plenty

#

That's why I have faith with nugu brands because time and time again they prove me they're a good alternative to those big brands like DELL and HP alike

#

Just.... sanitize the Windows installation first time around

#

and you're good

#

It's weird because before I hated the idea of mini PCs

#

like I thought that "how in the fuck does one put graphics card in it? How to expand it?"

#

Then I thought

#

Yeah there's quite a subset of people who just wants "a PC"

#

Particularly offices

#

Like

#

Get a monitor, keeb mouse, headphones or speakrs

zinc kestrel
#

great for classrooms

winter ingot
#

Plaster this tiny box behind the monitor

#

Boom

#

Clean

zinc kestrel
#

attached to the back of monitor stands

near meadow
#

mini if you dont have much to do and don't need power like playing 4k video, htpc stuff, it's perfect it's just small and nothing much to do

winter ingot
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-gc6S922-o

Review of the GMKTec I linked earlier, this is the flagship one

Buy one on Amazon: https://lon.tv/bx6kh (compensated affiliate link) - GMKTec's Mini PC packs great performance into a relatively small and low cost package. But the network and USB 4.0 performance I found a bit lacking. See more Mini PCs - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCZHp4d1HnItE_zvA8tShvdxgCEL648ZY and subscribe! http://lon.tv/s

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zinc kestrel
#

might be a few weeks before that version gets out though

winter ingot
#

Damn this thing can multimonitor to oblivion

near meadow
#

that's insane it's a P1

#

i guess due to the amount of users accessing YT

olive dune
#

I cant reproduce this

storm shore
#

yeah its just used for mails, microsoft office and uh... solitair

zinc kestrel
#

it's not every video but it's a huge pain for ones it does it on

#

this video froze at the same spot every time I tried to watch it, then I started just opening a chrome tab for youtube instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uglrQCWtLUg

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near meadow
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i wonder why specifically YT so it must be something YT is trying to tinker with and it's fine for google chrome since same company product

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there are some with the artms videos as well

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i think even on the jinsoul stream i get occasional buffering

olive dune
zinc kestrel
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lucky then

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I watch a lot of yt and it was driving me crazy

olive dune
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i have 124.0.2 apparently

zinc kestrel
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I even bought yt premium and disabled adblocker cause I thought it might help fix it

olive dune
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damn

zinc kestrel
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oh you're kinda behind then

storm shore
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anti chrome wow

zinc kestrel
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127 is current

olive dune
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yeah i havent updated in few months

zinc kestrel
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didn't really think about trying to downgrade

olive dune
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now im afraid to update lol

zinc kestrel
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yeah wait until they push 127.0.2 lmao

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yep it's a bug they're fixing

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suppose it might go in the nightly build sooner than later

crude oxide
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may have fucked up

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switching my email from google workspace to proton

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and canceled the google subscription before the proton import was done

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seemingly still going so hopefully not losing much, if anything

crude oxide
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ok yeah lol it stopped at about 15 months ago gg

near meadow
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woops

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is it like business email? i guess you can try resubscribing just to finish the sync?

crude oxide
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nah i just use a custom domain for my own stuff

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nothing important off the top of my head so nbd

olive dune
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lol as someone who did the same, I kept google around for like a week just to double check everything was good

crude oxide
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naively assumed it would continue until the current billing period ended

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but no google ended it instantly

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kind of a pain that i now need to maintain two mail apps on my phone, since i cant move my work gmail but oh well

olive dune
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can never escape that unfortunately vivikek

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at least you don't have to use outlook for work

crude oxide
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or teams

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thankfully we just use discord lmao

olive dune
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oh wow

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must be a small company

crude oxide
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ye im between two <10 people startups rn

olive dune
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makes sense

near meadow
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since technically it's paid until x date then you should have full access to it until then

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they should pay you back prorated for the remaining days of subscription lost

olive dune
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they do

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it's like this most likely because it's catered for businesses

olive dune
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makes it difficult to explain miso bot

crude oxide
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i havent even explained what my nextjs project is

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just that i have one that gets 500k visits a month

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and somehow that was enough to put me onto a new project using it

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the thought of explaining kpop and nft photocards to people in a fintech, sounds awful

near meadow
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product wise they might not understand it well but maybe the general idea and the technical details on how it's built and running for sure will interest them well

near meadow
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another one. i tried watching like 3 seconds in, it suddenly jumps to 0:16. when i scrub back to 0:00 it plays for 3 seconds and then buffers for nothing

zinc kestrel
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might be fixed in the firefox nightly build

near meadow
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can't wait for that

balmy gust
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also had it earlier. idk what firefox addons you have. Refreshing the page seems to fix it for me though

zinc kestrel
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it's not addons just a firefox issue

near meadow
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i wonder if it's really just firefox or maybe edge safari has it as well

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ok maybe not i tried in edge and there's no problem

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in firefox it consistently buffers on the same spot

storm shore
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noooooo i restarted an laptop and now its installing w11

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stresssss

storm shore
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since cant use dads pc tried connecting printer to a laptop we got. restarted and now we doing w11...

storm shore
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they fixed his pc by replacing the gpu. surprised they had those old ones for it

near meadow
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for free i guess since you could probably just get the latest one if you wanted to buy and when everything else breaks you can salvage that gpu

storm shore
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weirdest thing ive heard today wtf

storm shore
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my pc wont boot since yesterday.
yesterday after a forced power off.it worked, but now nothing. everything turns on, but nothing is picked up so monitors go straight to sleep mode...

storm shore
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made it this far after first 5 mins, but nothing after another 30. i dont get it

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cant enter bios or anything either

near meadow
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that's a long boot up. windows might be borked maybe? since display is working and you can't enter windows

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is this like the old pc of your dad

winter ingot
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Repeat

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See if you can get into BIOS

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First sanity check

storm shore
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got to go to work now so will try later

winter ingot
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ok nice

near meadow
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that should force it

winter ingot
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Ye boot drive might get borked because Windows Update

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I know that because I experienced that multiple times with work PC

near meadow
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scary

winter ingot
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Might be a good time to scour through an unused flashdrive to make a bootable Windows stick

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That way you can use Windows Recovery

storm shore
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i do have a windows usb already from 2years ago

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just got to find it

winter ingot
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then you're set

storm shore
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dont want to reinstall though. too much data

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need to get acess first

winter ingot
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Fair but

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it is a possible next step

near meadow
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reinstalling won't clear the data but anyways the windows recovery isn't going to install stuff yet

winter ingot
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Don't worry, cmd will tell us more when Recovery fails

near meadow
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yea

storm shore
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uhm

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seems it is windows

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@winter ingot @near meadow

near meadow
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sad

storm shore
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got to this point instantly

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i disconnected my boot drive so ofc it doesnt find it

near meadow
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not sure if you can try to repair it while in the windows recovery screen

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ahh that's normal then but did you get to bios?