this is gpt coded
#Misc Chat
half heath
hoary charm
good video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZzsaqC8n_U
ocean vigil
It's four years today since the four day special operation started
marsh oracle
https://www.axios.com/2026/02/24/anthropic-pentagon-claude-hegseth-dario banger pr for anthropic that theyre this difficult to replace already lol
hoary charm
threatening to invoke the defence production act is insane
marsh oracle
It is but i wouldnt put it past hegseth
last eagle
nailed it 👍
hoary charm
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blazing depot
It's kinda funny how dystopian future this reads
trim flicker
actually insane shit
fossil basin
lime spire
so Mod Eye Circle has informed me that this channel is now about me
from now on there will be no more news posts, only posts about me and how cool I am
blazing depot
Yeah, no.
brave pelican
grumpy wont let you take over #bosscalls
last eagle
https://x.com/andrewcurran_/status/2026429911792046449
https://twitter.com/ns123abc/status/2026679645379141953
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-25/hacker-used-anthropic-s-claude-to-steal-sensitive-mexican-data
X
well... that really aged something
hoary charm
not really, its always been relatively easy to get past its refusals by just telling it it’s a ctf or your own site
also goes without saying that the pentagon wanting to use it for mass surveillance is different to an individual using it to assist in hacking
ruby helm
I'd guess thousands of businesses and entities have a dozen or so know vulnerabilities and the only thing stopping them being exploited is getting someone to run a library of tens of thousands of potential vulnerabilities and do a tiny bit of work to adapt each of those scripts to be able to interact with whatever interface is available which ai automates.
eager parrot
nova holly
I've seen this movie
eager parrot
and this is with the standard models
not whatever they are playing with at pentagon
maybe they trained AI on way too many terminator-like fictional works
I mean they did scan in MILLIONS of books
hoary charm
i think i read the pentagon has access to a version of sonnet 4.5 with some relaxed restrictions
marsh oracle
Destructive scanning always sounds very sinister but you also just get much better scans out of it lol
This is one of those things brought up against ai which seems like a nothingburger to me idk
Unless theres genuinely rare books in there
hoary charm
rare boobs
marsh oracle
blazing depot
brave pelican
holy unc
last eagle
last eagle
hoary charm
saw another post saying that part of the complaint was suggesting that valve intentionally makes it stop next to a knife so it looks like a near miss
which i don't think CS ever did?
toxic spoke
saw another post saying that part of the complaint was suggesting that valve int...
Everything would be true had they just used a screenshot that wasn't actively moving and doesn't have a gold, since you always get a gold if you see it
using a screenshot with Activate Windows watermark is hilarious btw
haughty steppe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwS2iF3VE3U I'm so sad
last eagle
it was quite sudden but gotta respect their decisions
fossil basin
it was quite sudden but gotta respect their decisions
Idk if respect is the right word
Given quite some staff from the show allege those two misled the show staff about the continuation of show
So they are out there without a current job
Those two were out there saying S4 and S5 were in works, and what i am seeing is that a lot of show staff learning of cancellation at similar time of regular people
It's understandable to not continue a show with few seasons/episodes even if well recieved, but you should communicate that with your staff well and not mislead them
trim flicker
I will always mislead everyone around me
fossil basin
I will always mislead everyone around me
Speaking of misleading, it is time to correct myself among new info
https://fixupx.com/hansvanharken/status/2026939427210277242?s=20
It still is irresponsible to greenlight a S4 and S5 8 months before cancelling the show
Idk what happened to cause this, cannot have been planned
last eagle
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2026747238848795069/en France's and Russia's Turkish embassy accounts are beefing with each other with posts on X
FixupX
marsh oracle
FxTwitter
I figured they might rope maduro into this, guess good ol' Tchyna will have to do
hoary charm
https://x.com/anthropicai/status/2027150818575528261 they aren’t backing down
eager parrot
they're headquartered in the bay area so I don't know how much leeway they will actually have
if pentagon decides to force the issue
blazing depot
I mean, they will just immediately file a lawsuit and that will take years
Basically just have to make it last longer than the Trump admin and you're fine
last eagle
blazing depot
Kdrama plot
half heath
I hate the hold crime has on kdramas but its surprisingly a dangerous place based on metrics
They make some good stuff but every now and then I want an engaging one thats not about crime
trim flicker
just don't wrong her and ur safe
unborn echo
The G in GPT stands for Gesus
hoary charm
DoD melting down now too https://x.com/USWREMichael/status/2027235757371383938
the big bad constitution
blazing depot
"Under Secretary of War" 
marsh oracle
Why do i come in here and see fucking russia today
Also i like that i have seen this story with age ranges from 20 to 23 now 
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/emilygwender/status/2027214917430882512?s=20
Idk how i feel about this aside from fact that it is a very creative account name, but basically there's conversation or discussion for whatever creator of current lesbian flag (as of the color scheme one) might or might not be scamming people out of money due claiming to be jobless and homeless (not a thing makes someone bad, if she has scammed people out of money that would make her bad)
fossil basin
Why do i come in here and see fucking russia today
Because embassies of France and Russia here have decided to beef on X
Idk why
nova holly
i swear this exact conversation has happenend before
marsh oracle
Because its an old clip
nova holly
thatll be why
marsh oracle
Consider yourself farmed
fossil basin
FixupX
trim flicker
unrelated but we need to nuke kpop twitter
well, twitter in general
but people are legit getting increasingly racist and evil towards koreans for 0 reason
trim flicker
didn't say it was new just that it's getting increasingly worse
hoary charm
the whole SEA vs. koreans thing probably kicked off anything recent
trim flicker
that helped a lot yeah
cant go a day without some hit tweet acting like korea is the only country with issues at all
mfs really be like "damn korea is so racist and misogynistic but what can we expect from these fucking koreans"
hoary charm
ifan god complex still alive and well i guess
trim flicker
won't ever go away probably
marsh oracle
We all know europe is the only region without racism
molten fern
https://fxtwitter.com/MrWhiplash_/status/2027108507426701364
Get a territory where bananas grow then. 😇
ocean vigil
marsh oracle
He is tweeting https://fxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/2027486218502738139
Also quick domestic politics rant https://fxtwitter.com/clashreport/status/2027468280445665634
This dumbfuck has been ranting about this shit for years and the only thing his government has actually done is a tax credit for already retired boomers
marsh oracle
Maybe instead of cutting unemployment benefits or banning part time work we could, idk, build out childcare so more parents could work full time, or give a tax credit that scales with hours worked or get rid of tax incentives that encourage 20hr/month roles
nova holly
but muh socialism
hoary charm
He is tweeting https://fxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/2027486218502738139
supply chain risk
six month phase out period
these stupid fucks really love their incoherent decisions
trim flicker
it's a supply chain risk but it's also super necessary for national security + actually they're evil and woke and we don't need their D-AI claude
marsh oracle
+2 for D-AI
marsh oracle
Sama said he agreed with anthropics stance, time to put money where his mouth is i guess
Also according to this even companies like google or amazon wouldnt be allowed to do business with anthropic which would kill the company very quickly
https://fxtwitter.com/SecWar/status/2027507717469049070
FxTwitter
blazing depot
There is absolutely no shot this fratboy actually knows all those big words
Also, there is no shot they don't immediately file suit (and most likely win in the end)
marsh oracle
Oh im sure they will, we also have seen how much trump cares about that
And while the lawsuits play out every other company has to make business decisions
The average tech ceo seems pretty fond of praising the new god emperor so it will be interesting to see how they react
hoary charm
Sama said he agreed with anthropics stance, time to put money where his mouth is...
agreed and offered the exact same terms lol
if the dod switch to openai in that case then it’s purely political cause altman has been kissing the ring for the last 12 months
marsh oracle
I would say hes been doing more than kissing the ring but yea
blazing depot
Altman has somehow managed to be the worst caricature of a dystopian future tech CEO pseudo human piece of garbage out of all of them
Kinda impressive when you think about it
marsh oracle
FxTwitter
slim vessel
that didn't take long
hoary charm
https://fxtwitter.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 <a:AINTNOWAY:1099119587074...
that $25m bribe from greg sure paid off then
hoary charm
anthropic isn't even against autonomous weapons, they're just against them right now because the models aren't good enough lol
hoary charm
https://x.com/katyperry/status/2027619173325553765 the normies are learning
X
slim vessel
how long before claude is "banned" from public use in America as a result of this? 
hoary charm
blazing depot
It has started. The ultimate "please don't talk about Epstein" move
Also the "wdym we have to ask congress, lmao" move
eager parrot
so what's the official reason for attacking iran this time?
they just had to do it in the middle of peace talks again?
ocean vigil
preventive measures with israel as a proxy
eager parrot
what happened to nuclear facilities were obliterated from last year?
more like America as proxy for Israel
not even hiding it, they're literally calling the joint operation between Israel and US "Operation Shield of Judah"
ocean vigil
no point in hiding it when the crazy mango would talk about it anyway
hoary charm
lol
ocean vigil
way too early to tell
fossil basin
Also the "wdym we have to ask congress, lmao" move
I think it's more 'i will declare martial law in US and have any world regime destabilized' move
eager parrot
Trump be like "Americans might die but it's okay it's a noble mission"
in his statement
at least come up with like decent justifications for war smh
fossil basin
at least come up with like decent justifications for war smh
He wants to end real elections and remain in power before death
That is his justification
I mean he knows infinite war means infinite tenure
eager parrot
literally a declaration of war, with all the right words for one, except it's not a declaration of war? lol
slim vessel
literally a declaration of war, with all the right words for one, except it's no...
because he can't do it on his own legally
not that it matters
toxic spoke
literally a declaration of war, with all the right words for one, except it's no...
nearly every senator stood and cheered for war in iran during the state of the union, so basically
blazing depot
I love that he just dipped to Maralago
Gotta have one of those fancy parties while people are dying
slim vessel
that's more his home than the white house is, after all
fossil basin
he's actually explicitly going all in on regime change damn
Did people expect otherwise?
hoary charm
pretty sure he hadn't explicitly called for regime change until now
key word being explicitly
fossil basin
pretty sure he hadn't explicitly called for regime change until now
I mean maybe because a lot of stuff Trump likes to import from Turkey
But i mean i felt like it was coming always
hoary charm
obviously it was coming but wasnt really my point
fossil basin
obviously it was coming but wasnt really my point
I know, i am not trying to argue against your points
eager parrot
fossil basin
When you are in state of infinite military emergencies you can easily justify your way
last eagle
...bruh
fossil basin
I do not think the 2026 midterms as a reasonable elections are happening
Nor 2028 presidentials
Maybe a facade of them will happen
hoary charm
not even hiding it, they're literally calling the joint operation between Israel...
https://x.com/DeptofWar/status/2027662002219302929 reddit moment
shadow elbow
this one won't work because it's the same acronym as enduring freedom, back to the drawing board pete
hoary charm
i'd guess the shield of judah one is the name of the israeli part of it
ocean vigil
israel named it's part Lion's Roar
eager parrot
but then bibi called it something else yeah
shadow elbow
nakyoung's sister?
hoary charm
yeah idk
ocean vigil
recycling names, smh
eager parrot
😄
shadow elbow
running slim on ideas
hoary charm
nvm wikipedia updated
On 28 February 2026, Israel[1] and the United States[2] launched an attack, codenamed Roaring Lion,[3][4] Operation Shield of Judah and Operation Epic Fury
make your minds up smh
eager parrot
hahaha so I wasn't wrong, there's 3 fucking names already 😄
ruby helm
"Lions roar is taken" "Ok but what about Roaring Lion?"
fossil basin
Like my restraint with Democrats had been that they'll not be willing to prevent what Republicans have always wanted to do even if they were in power, which seems to hold partly true, but i hadn't minimized Trump or overall aims of a faction claiming 2024 was the last election it's voterbase would have had to vote in
hoary charm
i feel like we've been over this before
dems can't really do anything when they don't have the house or senate
sure that may start to change this year but they still need to not put a stick in their own spokes again
fossil basin
dems can't really do anything when they don't have the house or senate
They should have done so when they had the power
But also, non-authoritarian opposition factions overall just aren't very willing to push their policies
hoary charm
...done what?
fossil basin
...done what?
Actually punishing Trump for January 6th would have been an example
I mean Biden and Obama years were wasted in terms of preventing someone like Trump
Just not proactive enough nor willing to have identity as a faction
hoary charm
he was impeached for that and every democrat in the senate voted guilty
there was literally nothing more they could have done because it required more republicans to vote guilty to get the 2/3 requirement
fossil basin
there was literally nothing more they could have done because it required more r...
I mean bowing down to niceties instead of being more involved in lawsuits he had and even to point of committing half the breaching of liberal political norms to prevent Trump from being in position of power would have been the path
Those republicans should have been expelled
They just failed to account for threats coming their way
And are paying price now
RBG also a big part of failure
But overall it is disfunction of liberal (not liberal as in insult) political systems having their acl tears
hoary charm
this is just word salad because you want dems to act like authoritarians in the name of anti-authoritarianism
fossil basin
this is just word salad because you want dems to act like authoritarians in the ...
I mean i guess yes that would have been the correct action to take to prevent harsher authoritarianism
hoary charm
if the dems had any other levers to fuck with trump, they would have pulled them all
lol
fossil basin
if the dems had any other levers to fuck with trump, they would have pulled them...
I do not believe this, they had like a million ones
fossil basin
By not being rough enough on bad-faith actors disguised as parties or political factions, a lot of parties or countries have forced 1984-like systems to be new normal in world
Those should have probably been dealt with 10-20 years ago
eager parrot
iran is bombing the US in bahrain now
unless that building was completely evacuated, I don't see how that didn't result in casualties
hoary charm
that last one is the one i just saw yeah
hoary charm
ya meant the angle
ocean vigil
even Qatar, damn
hoary charm
only saw embassies evacuating iran and israel, not so much other gulf states
fossil basin
Iraq too is reported though waiting confirmation
fossil basin
Iraq too is reported though waiting confirmation
Several flights from Istanbul to Baghdad were cancelled midair in baghdad
eager parrot
if UAE is no fly zone, that's a LOT of international flights being disrupted
major hub
fossil basin
Like they returned to Gaziantep after leaving Baghdad airspace waiting for landing and all
ocean vigil
flightradar down, makes sense ig
hoary charm
lmao yeah just went to look
fossil basin
No official reasonings were given, but reports stated 'safety and organizational'
eager parrot
must have gotten 5 years worth of traffic in 5 hours lol
hoary charm
still a lot of traffic there
the finest troops are engaging https://x.com/TBrit90/status/2027661396696088754
X
eager parrot
well at least something happened
4 outta 10 on the happening scale though
but it has potential
but it's way too late/early, gonna sleep instead
fossil basin
well at least something happened
Let's not look at wars or people dying as 'something happening' in an US-lens shall we
hoary charm
half heath
so saddening ppl have to die because of Israel and seemingly to take focus away from epstein
blazing depot
Using wars as distraction is a long standing tradition for humankind in general, but the US have perfected that
fossil basin
I do not think it is distraction from Epstein at all
People, particularly Trump's voterbase like people like Epstein or atleast tend to be more in awe of him while not liking his branding, it's not as big of a distraction point
I think it's aim to make a permanent rule
You can make your rule permanent and go into martial law in infinite war
The alien stuff is epstein distraction
War is rule consolidation
blazing depot
People, particularly Trump's voterbase like people like Epstein or atleast tend ...
That's utter nonsense, the backlash and demand for release from the actual base was fierce. That's the only reason anything was released at all.
Would have never happened if only the Dems/left wanted it
fossil basin
That's utter nonsense, the backlash and demand for release from the actual base...
Again, backlash is due branding
A lot of Republicans are for a lot of stuff Epstein has done
Maybe not to level of explicitness and elite financials bringing more creative evil, but i mean punishing the vulnerable is the republican playbook
And also the conservative playbook
blazing depot
Why did I even bother, I have no time for this
fossil basin
Similarly in here, people deem internationalism and queer rights as 'epstein related' while bringing anyone to jail that mentions epstein's ties to any powerful figures
And ban access to any epstein files
His voter base tend to like similar things epstein has done while not in the scrutinized media branding he has
half heath
As far as i know, the whole reason this is happening is Trump wants to make Iran agree to a very lopsided deal. Iran won't agree for their own defensive capabilities. They already had a deal in place with Obama that Trump tore up. Some people believe Israel pushed for that because they want more restrictions on Iran.
So US wants to place a compliant leadership to neuter Iran for Israels sake
Now idk if Trump's permanent rule can be achieved this way as you claim. It feels like if they accomplish their goals they will pull out
But all depends on how long this draws out. The only reason the last engagement stopped seemed to be because Israels defenses were depleted
fossil basin
Now idk if Trump's permanent rule can be achieved this way as you claim. It feel...
Trump's permanent rule in US not in Iran
half heath
They do claim its because they achieved their goal but idk what to believe
half heath
Trump's permanent rule in US not in Iran
yes i know
fossil basin
He explicitly wants to put country into martial law and nationalize elections and rule for life
I believe him saying '2024 is the last election you have to vote in'
Like they are getting pre-determined elections
half heath
but doesnt he need to go through congress to declare this war? It seems he sidesteps it so how can he do that to impose martial law?
fossil basin
but doesnt he need to go through congress to declare this war? It seems he sides...
He'll find a way like he did with everything
It isn't legal, but it doesn't need to be at this point
half heath
You say that but there is a reason he sidesteps it
fossil basin
You say that but there is a reason he sidesteps it
Elon will rig elections
Also he isn't sidestepping it
He is actively retracting a lot of people's voting rights
half heath
im talking about declaring war
fossil basin
By 2026 midterm dates it'll be clear there won't be real elections
fossil basin
im talking about declaring war
I mean come on
He thinks he can do a venezuela
So he might be trying it in terms of war vs quick change
half heath
i think you are missing the point. You said martial law. Which requires it to be declared a war
fossil basin
i think you are missing the point. You said martial law. Which requires it to be...
He'll find a way
Change definition, or declare it regardless
half heath
anyways... i do think its more probable cause US will bend over backwards for israel
fossil basin
Legal requirements aren't binding anymore
half heath
but its getting harder and harder to make Americans accept it
fossil basin
He'll do whatever he wants or has in mind, it's to be seen how much democrats, republicans or other political figures and public will let him
ocean vigil
i think you are missing the point. You said martial law. Which requires it to be...
as he did the first dozen times when he started spouting his word salads about that
fossil basin
but its getting harder and harder to make Americans accept it
I mean issue is that he is realizing you do not need to
Regimes no longer need to feed from approval
If they have the financials, surveillence, military and some level of base
half heath
I dont think we are at that point. We might be approaching it but i feel the dam hasnt completely broken yet. I mean for some reason Trump approved affordable housing budget for NY. I cant understand why unless he thinks ppl will credit him
fossil basin
I dont think we are at that point. We might be approaching it but i feel the dam...
Because he is personally amazed by Mamdani
Because he knows to dickride Trump
Trump works as if you personally dickride him or feed into his ego, you can get what you want from him if he likes you
half heath
He still has an ego to feed. I think approval matters to him
fossil basin
He still has an ego to feed. I think approval matters to him
Not by people overall
His cult base will approve of him
half heath
As long as it doesnt get in the way of his self interests
fossil basin
And that's what matters to him
Again we had even seen Epstein apologia from most of his base
Those people won't be swayed
half heath
so i wouldnt know but i doubt its most of the base
unless twitter bots are the representative
fossil basin
so i wouldnt know but i doubt its most of the base
Most of his base, not assuming majority
But he has a widespread fanatic base that'll die for his child sacrifices and all
When you have that it doesn't matter to have majority approval
You can employ them as your widespread policing force
fossil basin
We will have to see
I mean yeah it'll inevitably have to be seen in time
fossil basin
unless twitter bots are the representative
Bots have more political power projection than real people of this age
Whenever there's massive amounts of bots forcing stuff, chances are government is actively pushing this
It is a reason why US wants to be as reliant to generative AI
half heath
thats not my point. I believe real ppl in tbe base have grown increasingly more doubtful about maga. If the voter base is a spectrum, and we assume 20% arent fully delusional, they grow doubtful seeing ICE and Epsteim stuff
fossil basin
thats not my point. I believe real ppl in tbe base have grown increasingly more ...
Not important
half heath
A lot of his "voter" base was latinos
fossil basin
Again, as long as he has %5-10 of fanatical voters among entire voterbase
half heath
Idek if the votes were real rhough
fossil basin
Not important
fossil basin
Again, as long as he has %5-10 of fanatical voters among entire voterbase
He can use these people to police the rest
marsh oracle
Wtf do the 5-10% matter for lol
half heath
You say not important because you assume there will be no fair elections again
fossil basin
Wtf do the 5-10% matter for lol
For the cast system they are trying to re-emerge
fossil basin
You say not important because you assume there will be no fair elections again
I mean Trump actively said so
Even 2024 one was meddled in
half heath
Yea i mean, we cant really come to agreeement if we operate on different assumptions.
Do i think the threat is real yes. Do I think its certain no
fossil basin
Yea i mean, we cant really come to agreeement if we operate on different assumpt...
I think i can sense whenever real elections cease to exist, it is a general prediction of mine in that i think a lot of states will lose having non-predetermined elections as a feature of presentation of public
A lot of anti-human governments will be there at large that focus on money laundering for the alike-base
I also am aware it is a prediction of mine and do not blame people for moving with other assumptions
half heath
Okay let me ask then. Why wasnt Trump able to stop the release of the files definitely? yes he managed to censor it a lot but he still came out looking horrible
fossil basin
Okay let me ask then. Why wasnt Trump able to stop the release of the files defi...
Not as important
Files seem phased plannedly
To 1) reduce impact 2) he was still not held accountable or his cronies
- normalization of epsteins across world
half heath
? Im asking if he is capable of being completely authoritarian why didnt he just not release it.
fossil basin
Like epstein files revealed is merely normalization of pure horrors
fossil basin
? Im asking if he is capable of being completely authoritarian why didnt he just...
To make people assume new normals
half heath
there was pressure from his base, edit: and legal pressure
fossil basin
And shift to new more authoritarian system
fossil basin
there was pressure from his base, edit: and legal pressure
Not really
Epstein files would never impact his rule at this point
He'd not have released it if it would have
They clearly want to normalize stuff in files
half heath
If thats the case why did he censor and erase evidence?
fossil basin
And decrease future reactions
fossil basin
If thats the case why did he censor and erase evidence?
Because he is dumb
Eveeyone knew it was him or people related to him, but even with that no accountability is served
half heath
okay ngl ill tap out cause i cant seem to get the point across
fossil basin
He is dumb and people he put in top positions have no point aside licking his ass
So it was unprofessional throughout
But Trump isn't releasing anything a threat to his rule
If Epstein files meant him facing repercussions, they'd have been burnt
It's to turn people more nihilistic and accustome people when next stuff comes along
half heath
btw you guys ever feel a little scared to talk politics on discord these days? I remember seeing that report about agencies demanding names of users who talk bad about ICE or something
fossil basin
No major 'epstein distraction' will cause wars because his fanatic voterbase likes people like Epstein if not the guy
half heath
not sure if discord would allow that but if they do gg
fossil basin
btw you guys ever feel a little scared to talk politics on discord these days? I...
Everywhere yes, but also it's long been case
half heath
I guess ppl who dont go to US have no worries tho
fossil basin
I guess ppl who dont go to US have no worries tho
I mean i do, it's just not more than normal
Just stay irrelevant to domestic people or spaces and you'll be mostly fine
I have no presence in local social medias spaces because of it
half heath
I couldnt imagine somehow one day getting stopped from crossing border just because of discord lol
half heath
Somehow they just need more assholes who know how to break rules for the right reasons.
only way to fight if the other guys already fighting dirty
hoary charm
marsh oracle
Starting to think the fifa peace price was meaningless
ocean vigil
it got infantino to the board of peace
last eagle
marsh oracle
You have this uncanny abilitiy to literally only post click farm accounts
ocean vigil
and russia today
blazing depot
You have this uncanny abilitiy to literally only post click farm accounts
You get either that or AI bot prompts, pick your poison
near jetty
bruh nbc interviewing the iranian foreign minister live on tv
near jetty
nice fella
marsh oracle
https://fxtwitter.com/dielinkebt/status/2027710137914327197 a german party saying you cant bomb a country into regime change is so peak
FxTwitter
fossil basin
Bulgaria confirms they took no part for attack in Iran
fossil basin
FixupX
thorny schooner
fossil basin
Apparently the creator of current lesbian flag, might have not ever existed
Basically the ordeal is that she might have faked being Emily, and scammed people out if half a million dollars in 5-6 years while having a supportive father working in Abu Dhabi as a F1 engineer
Well i guess
half heath
Carney backs it too. I dont expect most will speak against israel
marsh oracle
I mean everybody hates the iranian regime lol
The main issue is that trump explicitly ran against war, accused democrats of dragging the us into more intentionally and all the right wing grifters ate that shit up and spouted it to their audience
But obviously other governments wont really care about that
nova holly
This cancels one of them out so now hes ended 7 wars which means he's still the president of peace™
blazing depot
Fun times
marsh oracle
Oh and when theyre done trump is gonna slap a trump golf course in there instead of trying to build some semblance of a liberal society, thats also kind of bad
half heath
I mean everybody hates the iranian regime lol
I expected more from someone who made a speech about the old world order crumbling. Watching US and Israel use might to get what they want once again and supporting it just seems lacking in integrity. This is a "preemptive strike" there wasnt a need for this other than Trump wanting to strong arm a deal. The reason we are investing more in defense and making economic relations with countries other than US is because US can one day just as easily turn their aggression towards any other country. So regardless if everyone hates iranian regime, its not acceptable.
Couldve avoided so many innocents being caught in crossfire already. I think I saw a residential building get bombed
fossil basin
I just think any state in NATO, EU and in proximity of US has accepted being totally dependent on US even with looming threat of subjugation or annexation
marsh oracle
Oh yea ultimately this falls back to trump ripping up the jcpoa for flimsy reasons
fossil basin
I was more confused by Carney because Canada is at risk of annexation
It is a hard situation to navigate when you have no b plans on your biggest supposed ally seeing you more as food
marsh oracle
Carney condemning the strikes would be pretty meaningless as of now. He also didnt endorse them outright
fossil basin
Carney condemning the strikes would be pretty meaningless as of now. He also did...
It's more how any state deemed the old liberal order dead in Davos moves now to accept lining behind US immediately
marsh oracle
Idk why we still act like you have to be in favor of every military action or against every military Action
fossil basin
It's also probably notable that Iran is kinda isolated diplomatic wise, even Muslim countries align with Israel and US over Iran due Sunni/Shia divide
Even Palestinean authorities positioned against Iran
marsh oracle
You can say "stopping the biggest terrorism sponsor in the middle east is good" while also saying "shooting random boats in the atlantic is bad"
fossil basin
I do not think Trump has will on stopping terrorism, and more on wanting to instigate more aligned despot to him
Like he did with Venezuela and Syria
marsh oracle
Obviously theres an entire other conversation about trump lying about the state of their nuclear capabilities and what exactly the long term plans are but we dont have to pretend every military action by the us is the same
fossil basin
Same is yeah, but neither are done to benefit world or the people within states that is sure
There's not goodwill in those operations
marsh oracle
Sure, but like i said, nobody likes iran enough to care about that right now
fossil basin
Sure, but like i said, nobody likes iran enough to care about that right now
I am not objecting this statement that countries aren't very aligned with them
half heath
Idk why we still act like you have to be in favor of every military action or ag...
For americans specifically, their taxes are paying for this while they increasingly struggle domestically. All seemingly to protect israel
fossil basin
https://www.tiranatimes.com/albania-backs-u-s-strikes-on-iran/
In contrast
https://www.reuters.com/world/iran-crisis-live-explosions-tehran-israel-announces-strike-2026-02-28/
Facing Albania does cost people
marsh oracle
For americans specifically, their taxes are paying for this while they increasin...
And as usual the narrative that this money would suddenly be spent on domestic policy has never been true
Its the lefts version of "if we werent spending this money on Immigrants we would all be better off"
half heath
Which is the problem, the american ppl arent being prioritized
marsh oracle
Well yea as i mentioned, trumps entire campaign was a fraud
But what else is new and that wont concern other nations leaders
half heath
I dont really understand the concept of not being against military action just because ppl are currently powerless
or even neutral/indifferent
fossil basin
Any military action from US on countries as of recent won't be due stabilizing them in any point
fossil basin
Any military action from US on countries as of recent won't be due stabilizing t...
That being said, I am not shedding a tear for Khamenei
half heath
I dont think anyone is. The issue would be what fills the power vaccuum
fossil basin
Like he was a horrible leader, i am not exactly going to mourn him
marsh oracle
I dont really understand the concept of not being against military action just b...
I think these leaders simply are not against this specific kind of military action and dont see a reason to be against any and all form of military intervention
fossil basin
I dont think anyone is. The issue would be what fills the power vaccuum
Well yes it is not an objection to this, more addition
fossil basin
I think these leaders simply are not against this specific kind of military acti...
I think so too yes
marsh oracle
The power aspect was more about standing up to the military actions they dont like, for example invading greenland
fossil basin
The power aspect was more about standing up to the military actions they dont li...
Yeah
marsh oracle
Anybody seen khamenei yet btw?
fossil basin
Anybody seen khamenei yet btw?
Reuters just said he died
But they sourced an israeli official
half heath
The power aspect was more about standing up to the military actions they dont li...
Right, but the reason they dont like it is because they dont want Israel to be threatened which is the Wests/USs foothold in middle east. Supporting it seems like they are still expecting to be allying with US, but US has shown to be a fickle ally recently.
Unless something changed that i missed
marsh oracle
Iran has done more than threaten israel
They sponsored the houthis who shot down random ships which hurt International trade
half heath
Were they random ships or israel linked ships?
marsh oracle
How many steps of seperation do you count as linked to israel
half heath
Hard for me to say but if its to benefit israel trade Its linked imo
Also dont other countries arm proxies like houthis with weapons? Like Russia and China?
Or maybe they come from Iran who buys from those places
marsh oracle
Russia im sure, theyve been a backer of iran and assad for a while
marsh oracle
Hard for me to say but if its to benefit israel trade Its linked imo
The houthis started targetting ships like the Magic Seas, greek owned but the owner had other ships that had previously visited Israeli ports
Understandably other countries do not like this
half heath
The irony of all this is that Israel is the wests proxy in the region itself
marsh oracle
Whats the irony
half heath
The idea that the west is upset about iran arming proxies
half heath
Theyre upset about what those proxies do lol
yes and they are targeting the one who is arming them
marsh oracle
Iran also backed a bunch of terrorist attacks in the us and europe in the 2010s
half heath
while iran targets the proxy which is israel
half heath
Iran also backed a bunch of terrorist attacks in the us and europe in the 2010s
I cant remember this personally
Also it feels like im defending Iran but I just think this couldve been avoided by the US
nova holly
its sort of in line with a lot of trump stuff
maybe some of these actions were nescessary, but the us doing it alone is just dumb
marsh oracle
I hope, and highly doubt at the same time, that the iranian people can come out of this better, but there is very very little love lost for the iranian regime around the world
nova holly
maybe coordinated tariffs against china would be useful instead of just burning bridges with all their allies
marsh oracle
Theyve backed terrorist groups and attacks around the globe for decades and everybody fucking hates their ass for it
half heath
So im reading all of those and im just trying to understand to what aim Iran would do those things. It reads like Iran is just bloodthirsty and destructive for the sake of being destructive and if im being honest its hard to not see that as propaganda. Maybe im wrong
attacking random synagogues in australia? genuinely why
marsh oracle
Religious fanaticism, attacking iranian Opposition in other countries, trying to slow down israeli peace deals with other middle eastern nations and projection of power
The iranian revolution in 1979 was already explicitly religious and anti US/western countries in genersl
They called the US the great Satan or something like that
I think in some ways the rhetoric was kind of similar to how right wingers over here talk about how immigrants will be the fall of western culture lol
half heath
So to slow down Israel and for political oppositions it makes sense even if i dont agree with methods. I wont defend it but US does the same in many regions. It just spares the western allies. To sponsor religious fanaticism just to do it doesnt make much sense. I mean US literally just took over Venezuelas oil supply by force didnt they.
marsh oracle
I wont lie im getting lost
Whats the underlying point? That the rules based order was fundamentally hypocritcal and western countries only pretended to enforce it on countries they arent allied with?
half heath
I think my point is the justification being used seems ultimately for Israels sake.
All the other stuff is extra as US and the West have supported just as much terror
well
maybe not as much but their fair share
Like arent the cartel armed by US arms?
marsh oracle
Was that not carneys point? That the smaller western countries went along with actions that shouldve gone against the "rules based order" because it benefitted them and that will need to band together as their allied superpower might now be turned against them. The rules based order isnt meaningfully protecting anyone anymore
eager parrot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel
linking wiki articles don't somehow do much 😄
marsh oracle
Huh?
half heath
Was that not carneys point? That the smaller western countries went along with a...
Yes but they are also still going along with it still because US/Israel is still something they believe they need
marsh oracle
Idk this seems unfalsifiable, or maybe just both are true
These countries generally want this regime gone
Trump doing it is probably the worst possible option but at the end of the day it benefits them right now
I dont think this contradicts anything carney said or at least how i interpreted it
He likely would prefer a different world order but this how things are now and canada alone cant meaningfully change it
marsh oracle
linking wiki articles don't somehow do much 😄
I dont disagree with any of these btw so idk what this means
Israel has once more begun ramping up their settlements and attacks in the west bank which is very bad, as its always been
half heath
I dont expect him to change it. Its more an integrity and foresight thing for me. Like Carney recognizes US is using its military might as a threat against us and our allies but he also seemingly supports them doing it elsewhere. I do think I missed the nuance of how much Iran could become as much a threat but from what i understand the threat still seems mostly against Israel. Like US is doing this because they want to be in control of the world order. Only 3 countries oppose that. China seems mostly focused on domestic growth and is very intertwined with US economy, Russia is already engaged against Nato, and Iran wont agree to divest their proxies and their nuclear capabilities.
Are we safer with US as the ones controlling the world order? Or is it just a matter of time until we are treated the same way. I mean Canada has already dealt with alot of trade issues and we have US sponsored lobbies trying to agitate Alberta seperatists for our oil.
So with all that in mind, I just dont think supporting this military action makes sense unless there is some belief post trump US and Canada relations will return to normal. I think from my pov its just different because I dont think canada has been affected by Iran.
We basically just have to take the european position because if the US or anyone else does threaten us, we would rely on them
marsh oracle
But whats the point of taking some principled position here that every military Intervention is bad?
Clearly canada doesnt believe in it, the us has never believed in that principle and certainly wont start now
half heath
Yea my thing is its different now because there is a threat that we become victim to military intervention
marsh oracle
Like if the us every really does attack canada or europe, would saying "ah but we also condemned your attack on iran" benefit them in any way? No, the only thing that could save them is banding together against the us
Holding the principled position doesnt achieve anything (and nobody honestly has held that position for the last decade) so you might as well come out and say which actions you support and which you dont
half heath
I think its important to reinstate some concept of consistency. Yes if it comes to it, words arent going to stop it. But creating an environment politically that rejects this type of action should hold value in order to get everyone aligned. Its really not a priority but Carneys speech just made it seem like our government would move more seperately to the US. Its more slight disappointment on my part than a serious strategic suggestion.
marsh oracle
I think it was more about picking and choosing what you like from each superpower
He also wants to further ties with china who arent exactly innocent either
Geopolitics is a giant mess right now, and its probably not getting better soon
half heath
thats true just a little different cause we've been directly threatened
marsh oracle
The midterms will fix it 
ocean vigil
You gonna summon the turkish llm again
blazing depot
You gonna summon the turkish llm again
Here, let me do it
https://x.com/DemocracyDocket/status/2027470158516605041
X
marsh oracle
Ok khamenei still not being in front of a camera makes me think he really is dead
Alternatively he can bet on his own survival on polymarket and make some serious money
blazing depot
Financing the war on his own terms
eager parrot
if he's not alive then sure it makes sense he's not in front of a camera
but if he is alive, then getting in front of the camera is just giving the other side intel and potential location
the technological advantage gap between Iran and US/Israel is too wide
half heath
damn its getting doomery again
marsh oracle
Theyre selling dollars for 2.9ct
I guess he would have to make it another month too
half heath
have you ever made money off this
marsh oracle
Nah im not touching this shit with a 10 foot pole lol
marsh oracle
I think sports betting and especially These "prediction" markets are a societal poison
half heath
hard agree
blazing depot
Polymarket is genuinely dystopian future Black Mirror shit, ngl
half heath
its genius from a business pov tho ill admit
blazing depot
And people openly embracing it is just kinda scary, but you know
half heath
basically a widespread online casino
marsh oracle
Bro its not gambling its a truth creation machine
blazing depot
half heath
yea it wears a mask like its a prediction market
marsh oracle
I mean thats not even what people bet on anymore
Its like will shooty mcgee score 7.6 points in the last 4.3 minutes of the game + will dunk the god of dunking dunk 30 points in this other game
blazing depot
How dare you say that! Gambling is an important and vital part of the economy (within lawmakers' pockets)
marsh oracle
fossil basin
half heath
stupid
marsh oracle
I actually forgot they still exist
eager parrot
that was a pretty tense security council meeting
I don't think I've ever seen that kind of direct back and forth between two countries
blazing depot
I actually forgot they still exist
Bro, they literally started war with Pakistan, like, 3 days ago
marsh oracle
So war with pakistan #134?
blazing depot
More like actual war, not just "We bomb that one place" from the sound of it
hoary charm
basically as anthropic suggested, the openai agreement is just the govt saying trust me bro
marsh oracle
This saga is probably much more about how much either company would be willing to actively deny them access if anything like this comes to light
I think dario is weird in many ways but he might actually do that, i dont have any faith at all sama would
Oh iran confirmed Khamenei is dead
hoary charm
rest in piss
hoary charm
2/2 on taking out dictators, good job claude
slim vessel
maybe the thought was, because the deal was signed, everything instantly became openai
trim flicker
rip many people i guess
marsh oracle
FxTwitter
haughty steppe
What they signed up for
eager parrot
Well, Trump did say that he is ok with some people dying
he just said it again too
like minutes ago
last eagle
"Patriotism"
eager parrot
the last few times America went in for 2-4 weeks, we ended up in 13-20 year wars....
and none of those times were all US bases in that sand region hit like this
so I think we're gonna be stuck with this for decades
marsh oracle
Or its like venezuela where nothing changes lol
eager parrot
nothing happened there, same party is in power, people are still getting screwed
just two people were removed
ruby helm
Just blowing up small bits of a tens of thousands of square km country isn't going to somehow conquer it
marsh oracle
Surely the irgc wont gun down the protesters this time
eager parrot
their police force is doing that
marsh oracle
Well conquering it isnt the goal
The stated goal seems to be to get the protesters to take over
But they dont really have the means
last eagle
apperantly there's a (coincidencental) theory that they do war at every peak of solar storm cycles(???)
ruby helm
Only way I ever see that working is if there is an internal power struggle within the generals and they both claim to be the real irgc and get their soldiers to follow them
last eagle
I read that and I was like... wut
eager parrot
apperantly there's a (coincidencental) theory that they do war at every peak of ...
well Israel does love their astrology and prophecies
I don't think US dates their attack like that
marsh oracle
apperantly there's a (coincidencental) theory that they do war at every peak of ...
You just gotta stop scrolling
last eagle
yea true
Imma go back and play balatro
-# but wow what a ridiculous theory i've ever read lmfao
eager parrot
well I'll decide that one based on how RTX stock moves lol
but if you're holding crypto, it probably won't be doing too hot
eager parrot
not nosediving as much as it did between mid jan and early feb, but that was probably pricing in this war already
given this was likely in the planning for many months with many people in the know
marsh oracle
Isnt a war supposed to drive crypto up cause of the uncertainty?
Digital gold and all that
eager parrot
gold and silver is still going up
blazing depot
Surely the irgc wont gun down the protesters this time
The Shah's son telling people to go outside and protest in the streets in the middle of the war and ongoing airstrikes and already panicked troops was a great move for sure
What could possibly go wrong
eager parrot
I don't think that nation takes very kindly to external invasions or interventions when it comes to their fate and future tbh
their supreme leader basically became a martyr now for their hardliners, which is still 20-30% of that country
and Shah's son being that friendly with Israel likely doesn't sit well even with their moderates
marsh oracle
Does that guy even have real pull in the country?
blazing depot
Putting aside that the Shah wasn't exactly any better than the current regime
Like, at all
eager parrot
he seems to have pull with expats but I don't think he has any credibility domestically there
and IF Israel and the US are successful at creating a power vacuum in Iran and try to plant Shah's son there, it's very likely that he'll be cast out within a couple of years at best
unless they really are willing to send a million troops there and try and nation build like they did in Afghanistan or Iraq
blazing depot
This is just a dude who hopes for power once the dust settles and is positioning himself accordingly
eager parrot
and we know how that turned out
marsh oracle
he seems to have pull with expats but I don't think he has any credibility domes...
Yea that was my impression too. Makes sense when most of the people fleeing post 1979 where probably pro monarchy
Trump is gonna make rubio the next shah or some shit like that
blazing depot
No, Rubio is the future ruler of Cuba, get it right
blazing depot
Cause he has enough other cronies to give such jobs to
Just send RFK Jr
Or Dr.Oz
tfw we live in a time where these are real people in power in the US government
eager parrot
how is this okay, Mr. President?
also John Bolton you absolute moron, for fourty fucking years he kept saying invade and bomb iran, and now he is saying this?
that one is an older post, a few days old
that's enough war posting from me for the week, it's sunny outside, gonna go enjoy Sunday.
fuck it's cloudy again, well it's close enough to sunny
gonna get ice and snow and stuff tomorrow again 🙁
marsh oracle
https://fxtwitter.com/jonkarl/status/2028299468223676673 somehow im still surprised by just how stupid these people are
FxTwitter
fossil basin
fossil basin
FixupX
fossil basin
fossil basin
ocean vigil
we are so dead
lime spire
Atheists, imagine you're going skydiving with a Christian baby. Suddenly the baby tells you he won't open his parachute until you renounce atheism and accept Jesus as your lord and savior. What would you do?
fossil basin
<:hyunface:712688736802046023> Atheists, imagine you're going skydiving with a C...
Ask the baby 1) how does he talk as a baby
I feel like that's the most pressing situation we have
Even if it'd cause my death idk how a baby could talk, and be invested about Christianity to point of trying to convert people
My curiosity would devour me
I started to talk late so
Also why am I going skydiving WITH A BABY
No one is allowing this, i'd be imprisoned if i brought a baby to a skydiving situation
lime spire
fossil basin
I'd be too worried about logistics of how i got there to think the question
And by time i got there we'd both be dead
lime spire
And by time i got there we'd both be dead
fossil basin
I am not good at momentary crisises
I'd just not be in this situation with a baby in first place
lime spire
no one would ever even catch me skydiving
ocean vigil
If the baby is close enough for me to hear it it means I am close enough to pull theirs pull cord myself
Also they need mental help because to do something like that is deranged
fossil basin
no one would ever even catch me skydiving
One might catch me skydiving but not with a baby
I would not probably skydive in my lifetime, but it could happen
But not with a toddler
half heath
<:hyunface:712688736802046023> Atheists, imagine you're going skydiving with a C...
Son whats your answer in the same scenario but replace the religion with any other one
lime spire
probably what @fossil basin said
blazing depot
Meanwhile in checks & balances
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2028602114176438539
eager parrot
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2028657491362423115
yeah... people saying that (Marco Rubio and Mike Johnson that is)
If he has to convince Fox News viewers that "we're the good guys" then you know how bad it is.
trim flicker
<:hyunface:712688736802046023> Atheists, imagine you're going skydiving with a C...
whys the baby blackmailing me
fuckass manipulative baby
im letting the baby die not my fault this bitch ass is evil
baby shall be judged by god
brave pelican
<:hyunface:712688736802046023> Atheists, imagine you're going skydiving with a C...
kill the fucking baby omg
m0ds don't censor
proud tulip
kill the fucking baby omg
marsh oracle
Every clip coming from this hillary hearing is just her dunking on these clowns, who is choosing to release this lmao
blazing depot
It's almost like that putting aside her character she is actually a competent and eloquent woman who very likely despises those useless hacks, her husband included
fossil basin
Who doesn't like Hillary Duff
half heath
All the Bill Clinton stuff just reminds there hasnt been one good president in my lifetime except Obama, who still has some questionable stuff but not outright evil
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2028818183923147039 'The loving side of King Von'
fossil basin
All the Bill Clinton stuff just reminds there hasnt been one good president in m...
They are likely all evil, some just more presentable
I mean people love Jimmy Carter who has destroyed democracy in many states via coups including Turkey
If there's a neo-ottoman puppet regime of US/UK here as of now, it's foundation partially lies with Jimmy Carter
And he is one of the better US presidents
marsh oracle
Well, either the republicans are even more incompetent than we thought or bill clinton is innocent cause how else have they not proven shit yet
fossil basin
Well, either the republicans are even more incompetent than we thought or bill c...
I think it'd just be reflection on their part
Like not stuff they hadn't done that they'd blame Bill for
ruby helm
I saw some clips of interviews with Biden over the years, where his interview responses go from sharp quick witted indivdual to barely seems to understand where he is.
blazing depot
Well, either the republicans are even more incompetent than we thought or bill c...
I mean, he's exonerating Trump quite a bit and Trump has recently been saying how much he likes the guy, so there's your answer, really
fossil basin
ocean vigil
blazing depot
Maybe legitimize your war in your shitty congress and have a proper reasoning for it that could convince a toddler and countries wouldn't be like "Fuck off, no" (even though they still should be)
Wish our government had the balls to do that,but nah.
blazing depot
Merz is sitting next to him in that clip btw
Oh, I know
Merz did the good ol' [expletives] with Trump, really fun. And his fellow CDU/CSU members like Kiesewetter are just all like "Yay war, let's join! Actively!"
They can all just fuck the hell off
ocean vigil
On the other you had all the "totally not paid by russia" parties that have been full maga for years suddenly turn and go "oh no, what trump is doing is terrible"
if their voters could read it would be pretty confusing for them
blazing depot
The SPD kinda has the right idea but about as much of a clue and will to follow up on it as a dead raccoon
ocean vigil
I always have to double take when germans write about Social Democrats because SPD is also the abbreviation of our version of AfD
fossil basin
Maybe legitimize your war in your shitty congress and have a proper reasoning fo...
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2028875458310213931
I have an idea of their reasoning
FixupX
With a lot of Mormon influence, I think US evangelist/mormon elites will want end times to come
I mean they have a theocratic state to themselves in Utah
half heath
I cant believe this shit...
fossil basin
I mean I am glad Pahlavi who mourned US soldiers but not Persian/Iranian children that got hit, is fucked, but it is also bit worrying to show Trump has no clue of inter-politics
half heath
Im referring to the armageddon shit
nova holly
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/2028884997487378658
The uk is literally giving it away (and paying billions to do so) because its in america's best interest. this was started by the tories but its somehow become one of the biggest talking points against starmer
Idk why trump turned on it so hard
maybe farage asked him to or something
hoary charm
Idk why trump turned on it so hard
wasn't it to do with mauritius cozying up to china?
nova holly
partially
its also cause the island has an army base that we let the US use, and also the UN/EU said that the british ownership of the island was a questionable thing from colonial times (the uk was not legally bound to get rid of the island but they decided to do it anyway)
marsh oracle
This is gonna kick off another round of "we need greenland" isnt it
blazing depot
I feel like Iran should keep everyone distracted from that for a little while, but who knows
ocean vigil
he should try to buy cyprus, that would be fun
blazing depot
There's so much Russian money there that would kinda prevent that, not to mention GR/TR "interests"
fossil basin
he should try to buy cyprus, that would be fun
Would not be surprised if he tried to
fossil basin
There's so much Russian money there that would kinda prevent that, not to mentio...
I mean TR has been kinda phased out due state currently being 100% US/GR puppet regime
They hadn't even made a military move Greece has done in response to attacks on island, both countries supposed to have right to intervene against an attack in island
Probably they moved away interests in island at large part in exchange of being allowed to curate a hereditary regime in long run
Greece also keeps getting punished in favor of UK or US in anything it intervenes in aim to get to itself, i feel like UK will grant it's bases in US at some point in 1-2 decade
It's not like all 3 of those current regimes won't bow down to Trump in any such drastic move
proud tulip
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/2028884997487378658
wtf is he talking about
blazing depot
wtf is he talking about
Yes
hoary charm
X
blazing depot
He truly has the biggest of brains Hence the MRIs
blazing depot
wonder what ever happened with this
Well, I will say that convoys really are just easier targets
For missiles that is
Truly a clownshow
hoary charm
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2028952215290036261
miscchat flashbacks
blazing depot
Kek
half heath
near jetty
half heath
its unrealistic but hey at least someone is saying it
fossil basin
nova holly
https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2028917943916966241 hmm
I'm sure the US attempting to control both Venezuela and the strait of Hormuz-suez canal will have no effect on relations with china
ocean vigil
Only one province doing it will get weird
But at least someone stopped only talking about it and went and actually did it
Looking at you EU
fossil basin
supple dragon
wtf 
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2029173849011474736
Country doesn't have sufficient defense systems and NATO seems to have prevented an Iranian strike prior
hoary charm
is the rest of the irgc about to get discombobulated by nato
slim vessel
warednesday
fossil basin
haughty steppe
the wiggler
blazing depot
Tl;dr, no, Iran did not actually strike Cyprus
They did try to strike Turkey though
proud tulip
So where did the drone that targeted the airbase come from 
blazing depot
That depends on your personal aluminum foil hat levels
half heath
gas going up 😮💨
eager parrot
So where did the drone that targeted the airbase come from <:thonking:5572703571...
a lot of the proxies in the region have had drones and missiles delivered to them for years
sure, many of them have been fucked over by Israel in the last ~2 years but not all of them certainly
but with aluminum foil hat on, never underestimate an Israeli false flag to bring more players into the mix I suppose
the fact that the UK ministry and defence is calling it "shahed-like" might be telling
hoary charm
marsh oracle
Soy 👏 occupied 👏 government
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i need the US to collapse rn
eager parrot
first it was a few days long operation
then it was 2-4 weeks
now 5-8 weeks?
politico reporting potentially until September? so six months?
see you in December after Month 10 of the weekend-long regime change operation in Iran
hoary charm
special military operation
eager parrot
I never thought I'd see this country use third world tier cope propaganda to sugarcoat their military efforts
especially after four years of making fun of Russia
within five days the narrative has changed like 20 times depending on who you hear it from
and went from weekend strike to 6 month conflict
is everything a lie? Israel couldn't even fully finish their job in Gaza after two years, Russia can't even take more than 20% of their neighboring country, and now 70 years of US base building centcom in the middle east, not to mention embassies, are up in smokes after just five days with hundreds of thousands of americans still trapped in the region?
and we can't even evacuate them or give them reasonable advice on what to do?
At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if the US ends up using a nuke to save face in the conflict.
hoary charm
did they ever give timeframes on anything?
eager parrot
they've given varying, shifting messaging and timelines since the beginning
they don't seem to be committed, at least publicly, to any particular outcome
which is somehow perfectly on brand for the Trump administration and their impulsive actions
TACO is his brand
slim vessel
and we can't even evacuate them or give them reasonable advice on what to do?
what do you mean? pretty sure israel has arranged a bus service for stranded Americans /s
eager parrot
I have some colleages stuck in Israel and Jordan, they were on a business trip to another branch of the company I work for
and the only advisement they've received from the US embassy is make it on land to the Sinai penninsula crossing and we'll figure it out from there
and that's probably the ones who are having it the least bad, I feel sorry for the staff and families of embassy people and military personnel who probably had no warning about any of this and are just stuck there now and have not been evacuated, but been told to leave (HOW??!!)
I mean how do you jump headfirst into this without getting your people out? I guess element of surprise and all that, but this is just casualties and sacrifices that they're willing to make for .......... whatever their goal is?
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the goal is to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons they're about to get it in the next TWO HOURS can you believe that
literally minutes away from getting a nuke
eager parrot
yeah they've been saying that since late 80's, early 90's.
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yep
eager parrot
In that sense, Japan, Canada, a few other countries are all about a week or two away from a nuclear weapon if they really wanted to get one
Iran has a huge stockpile of 60% Uranium, and according to various sources, it takes a short amount of time to refine that to 90% and above purity.
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Let's keep nuking them that'll really make them not want to build a weapon
eager parrot
Can Iran put together a physics package of a nuclear weapon to denotate that weapons grade purity uranium? probably
but have they after all these years? no
eager parrot
Let's keep nuking them that'll really make them not want to build a weapon
unironically what I suspect is going to happen
especially given that US has given itself absolutely no off ramps and obviously no real goals on what they plan to achieve, at least publicly
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It's not like there's been proof of them really building nuclear weapons so far right lol
So idt they really will anyway
They'll probably end up taking a deal but who knows how long that can last
hoary charm
It's not like there's been proof of them really building nuclear weapons so far ...
enriched uranium, no?
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not sure rn i suck at remembering stuff when I need to
eager parrot
you have to remember that the US has such a sophisticated way of detecting even the slightest shifts in isotope concentrations globally, they would know practically overnight the moment Iran tried to make weapons grade uranium purity
same goes for the movement of any such material
and after the decade of Iraq and the WMD bullshit they fed the American people and the world as propaganda to justify their operations, you gotta give it to them for not even trying to really justify this one or build any kind of consensus ..........
vibes coding, vibes governing, and now vibes special military operating
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i feel people in the US in general are very apathetic in regards to this so trying to build any consensus isn't even necessary cause nothing will be done against it lol
eager parrot
maybe, though historically domestic pressure against wars have ended them before
especially once the coffins start coming back, as morbid as that is
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yeah but i feel it takes a whole lot to get a decent amount of americans to go out and protest
eager parrot
indeed, it's too early
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compared to decades ago
or even to other countries currently lol
eager parrot
though the approval for this president and the approval for this war is already at levels that took vietnam and iraq wars years to get to lol
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really impressive stuff
as an outsider i kinda assumed the timing on this iran stuff gotta have smth to do with midterms coming up but 🤷
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not sure what's the thought process behind it tho but no one seems to know that anyway
eager parrot
well historically a president involved in a war usually wins re-election and/or the midterms for his party
eager parrot
the GOP deserves to get wiped out over this
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texas will be blue
eager parrot
Trump and his lackeys went against literally every one of their promises with this attack
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president of peace (through strength)
eager parrot
much strength shown in CENTCOM bases evaporating and embassies on fire
while bombing the people you are supposedly trying to help liberate lol
let's not forget this is the same guy that pulled the US out of the agreement that Iran had with them
that's where it snowballed from all the way back in 2017-2018
lime spire
yeah but i feel it takes a whole lot to get a decent amount of americans to go o...
it will never really happen as long as nothing disrupts people's casual state of living
if people can still sit on their computers and go to their stores they unfortunately won't do anything
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well that's true for the US but people from other countries protest for much less
it's just a lot of apathy because the average american been feeling like the government does nothing for them for decades atp
because yeah it really doesn't lol
lime spire
^ true
eager parrot
that kind of apathy might be "harmless" in short term but it really isn't great that a significant portion of "younger" under 45 years old millennials and zoomers literally believe that their votes mean nothing, their governments don't do anything for their benefit, and nothing ever matters and nothing ever changes
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yep
eager parrot
if you see no prospects for your future, then you also don't have much to lose ......... and that should be terrifying to those in charge
but somehow politicians have forgotten that they are meant to represent the people
that they are able to be put in positions of authority and power because the people voted them into those positions and allow them to rule, at least in a liberal democracy
and .......... frankly, that they should be afraid of the people.
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nope they're meant to represent capital interest 
/s
hoary charm
this kind of apathy is what got trump elected though
eager parrot
ironically yeah
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yep
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and .......... frankly, that they should be afraid of the people.
politicians should always feel that
mamdani seems like a good example of a guy that makes people hopeful again because he does talk about the people and seems to have a good finger on the pulse of what his constituency wants
so its good that theres at least a handful of people that seem to be good at making people less apathetic
but still it's a big issue
hoary charm
yesterday my timeline was nothing but megan fox
today it's pigeon doctor
thanks grok
i'm sure the shape store will return tomorrow
blazing depot
as an outsider i kinda assumed the timing on this iran stuff gotta have smth to ...
Mostly people wouldn't stop talking about some files and stuff 
eager parrot
once you start sinking warships thousands of miles away from the country in international waters with your submarines, how can it still be called a special military operation.
just call it a war.
slim vessel
special military operation on behalf of the citizens of the world
fossil basin
They did try to strike Turkey though
Intent seems to be unclear as of now, some Turkish officials believe Iran accidentally struck Turkey while aiming for Cyprus or Crete bases, some don't and believe it is for Incirlik/Kurecik bases or for Ceyhan oil transport line given Turkey and Azerbaijan are extremely important oil suppliers for Israel
Either way, Turkey pretends to try being mediators/neutral while actively rooting for Iran downfall so any Turkish official source has to be taken with grain of salt because they aren't open with their aims
However i think the big takeaway really is that country's supposed biggest sector to praise (in arms/defense industry) has failed to provide basics of an air defense system, instead of showing off
I think regardless which way they'll take, my main issue with this is being unable to commit to this instead of having most important warships in a nato showoff in Baltics
Iran has also rejected any attempts of Turkey mediating, which is somewhat understandable particularly any ambassadors or diplomats country provides aren't here due merit
I do think having to rely on NATO for not getting struck instead of having a localized air defense system, or not being able to make any use of S-400s acquired expensively and at cost of F-35 programme (now you cannot use either) is a failure caused by incompetency
Because the S-400s were the lone factor that could have been currently utilized against those missiles due not having anything similar in inventory as of now for long range
Big issue is that we do not seem to have any plans aside doing whatever Trump says to do
hoary charm
where else would they be targeting to get into azerbaijan, ukraine?
eager parrot
I doubt it was accidental
Azerbaijan is one of the closest allies of Israel
to the point that Israel calls it ...
that.
So it would not be entirely crazy to think there are attacks being staged through there.
Iran is literally surrounded on nearly its entire western, southern, northern and most of its eastern borders with states and neighbours who would rather see it gone.
Nearly every one of those countries have (or have had I suppose in case of Afghanistan for 20 years) US or other NATO military bases on their soil.
They could fire in any direction and it'll hit something of "the enemy"
marsh oracle
Didnt iran say theyre targetting not-israel countries cause theyre gonna be less prepared
eager parrot
I don't really follow their state announcements tbh
marsh oracle
Apparently they were hoping dubai would pressure the us to stop when one of their hotels got hit
Which also apparently backfired hard
eager parrot
I think they're just hitting anything and everything because this is literally existential for them
and very likely central command has fallen apart for the time being
so different parts of their military and paramilitary are operating relatively independent of one another
any single one of the countries surrounding them, or even if all of them were to unite together to attack Iran, it would be irrelevant and fruitless (except Pakistan if nukes were involved), but the direct involvement of US Navy and US Air Force changes the calculus quite a bit.
fossil basin
Didnt iran say theyre targetting not-israel countries cause theyre gonna be less...
Not directly, they said they were going to be divided and operating regionally
fossil basin
so different parts of their military and paramilitary are operating relatively i...
Yeah they had announced non-central operations
And with atleast some part of Iran bureaucracy and command infiltrated by Israel/MOSSAD, would not be surprising for Iran to self-sabotage if central command is weak and infiltrated
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2029250164460863662
'Lustful men are gay' is certainly a take
Seems like Azerbaijan had taken part in the evacuation operation of F-15 crew https://fixupx.com/i/status/2029411633949262261
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2029474694504513664
One of the takes ever, she seems to like both Israel and Iran in her posts and all
hoary charm
Soy 👏 occupied 👏 government
X
blazing depot
Oh ffs
dreamy ledge
insert double facepalm high diving Picard here
blazing depot
Cool
half heath
we really living in pre black mirror/pre fallout/post idiocracy
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2029546634477031776/en
Oğuzhan Uğur is probably the biggest presidential asset disguising as a centrist, even going so far as tagging students critical of the regime in one of his recent shows to then sue of 'defamation to president', should Zohran even appear, i'd probably lose all respect for him
Like it's not even like a regular guy i happen to not agree with views, he is popular but also a popular asset who doesn't have a personality or competency aside being a troll
Like this would legitimately kill any hope of mine for electoral 'successes' for me
Eric Adams recieving bribes from Turkish officials is probably less damning than Zohran turning up to this man's podcast
Atleast Eric got the money (and the soap opera role back in 2017), there's genuinely no benefit for Zohran to appear in a state bad faith agent
I think this is a last straw for me to have faith in electoralism
half heath
hmm yea not sure. Maybe he is trying to reach an audience he thinks he can convert?
fossil basin
Not in that i'd not vote, i like voting for who i like
fossil basin
hmm yea not sure. Maybe he is trying to reach an audience he thinks he can conve...
Any Oğuzhan presence is of bad faith
This man had people take any criticizing questions noted for legal action in his show
What audience he is going to have to convert
half heath
yea idk maybe wait to see how he handles it
fossil basin
I think this was just extremely damaging to his reliability
Maybe a direct Trump request so that he'd internationally legitimaze neo-ottomanism direction oguzhan will promote as 'state mind'?
Idk what the hell was on his mind
Anyone who is willingly in close relations or presence (as in event appearance) facilitated by Oğuzhan is probably an enemy of anything decent
What if horrible podcasters in US were also not funny, is what Oğuzhan is
half heath
No idea, but i wouldnt jump to conclusions
fossil basin
No idea, but i wouldnt jump to conclusions
You do not have enough context about oğuzhan that is why
half heath
give me a comp for someone similar
fossil basin
give me a comp for someone similar
Uncharismatic/unfunny version of Joe Rogan/Nick Fuentes (not that they are that but present even less appealable one)
half heath
i just cant wrap my head around turning on one of the only succesful democratic socialist american politician that quick. Only way i can rationalize it is he is trying to balance to get what he needs
fossil basin
This guy just like 1-2 weeks ago had appointed trustee to main opposition due politicians from party being arrested one by one, promoted and had any criticisers noted for report to authorities with proof video
fossil basin
i just cant wrap my head around turning on one of the only succesful democratic ...
He is american after all
blazing depot
First off: Zohran has been appearing on a variety of outlets of all political spectrums, as should be standard. It is NOT a bad thing to guest on a podcast of [insert random politically affiliated person here], what you say there matters.
Secondly, even if that weren't the case, no one besides probably you will give a fuck
fossil basin
First off: Zohran has been appearing on a variety of outlets of all political sp...
This man is a government apparatus disguising as a centrist newgen podcaster/standee
blazing depot
That does not matter, he's still a public outlet.
fossil basin
Issue is more that he is NEVER going to have any good faith conversation with him, or anything he can benefit of
It is a more potential ploy to get Zohran arrested in spot or have him promote Erdoğan all but in name, because that is what Oğuzhan shows devolve into
half heath
you can be skeptical maybe even right eventually but thinking an appearance is somehow advocating for the person might be a reach.
fossil basin
you can be skeptical maybe even right eventually but thinking an appearance is s...
Being with Oğuzhan is when he has to have recently seen anyone attending to show not having uncritical beliefs getting reported
Maybe US/EU not caring for neo-ottomanism rising or converting state might be reason
blazing depot
wtf is Europe supposed to do. Sort out your own shit, we have enough to deal with.
fossil basin
wtf is Europe supposed to do. Sort out your own shit, we have enough to deal wit...
Not having promoted and actively rooted for current regime while claiming to have been against it, since they have been here would have been a start
fossil basin
Also removing asylums claiming Turkey is a safe state while converting into what US claims Iran is, too
Opposition had hoped for global order to not stand for human rights being violated, but global order did stand for it
Now, idk what can be done
More saying what could have been done, clearly a lot of years wasted means unretractable results
blazing depot
These are your country's inner affairs, like it or not, that's YOUR problem and business
Your people need to solve this, not the international community
fossil basin
These are your country's inner affairs, like it or not, that's YOUR problem and ...
Not only that when US/EU has meddled in it (not saying we hadn't at other countries)
But like you cannot totally absolve from responsibility
I am not absolving the state of stuff abroad because i'd be delusional to do so