Looks like the totally-not-russian-plant may have lost in the Romania presidential elections
#Misc Chat
blazing depot
Surely
marsh oracle
Cant even get a few quiet years of retirement
blazing depot
If it has already spread to his bones he's basically donezo
ocean vigil
congratulations to Chad ig
According to partial results, 11.64 million Romanians voted in this second round run-off. That includes 1.64 million outside Romania and just under 10 million in Romania itself.
With 99% of the vote now counted in Romania. Dan has 54.79% of the vote and nationalist pro-Trump candidate George Simion is on 45.21%.
Outside Romania there are still about a million votes to be counted and although Simion is in front, there is no chance he can claw back the gap betwen him and Dan.
The liberal mayor has a comprehensive lead of 898,000 and there is no way back for Simion now.
marsh oracle
Thank you trump
charred fulcrum
Yo can we do pirate talk cause lmao
fossil basin
Yo can we do pirate talk cause lmao
A pirate yuh yuh
charred fulcrum
I am about
This close
To open a whole new seven seas streaming method for movies and series
nova holly
oh dont do that thats dumb
engage in piracy, but dont actually be the one ripping stuff
fast track to the courtroom
charred fulcrum
Oh nah I am not the one sourcing
but I have a whole avenue of it
It's far cooler than torrenting
it does has cost but the one you can consume
And I've been a happy user of it for at least 2 years
hoary charm
protonvpn split tunneling only for your torrent client 
charred fulcrum
if it's a dumb mistake then I do not have anything to say
hoary charm
here companies have to pay $25 to send a cease and desist letter via ISPs
so pirating is essentially legal since they dont bother
fossil basin
Turkey does not seem to care too much about torrent downloads atleast in practice
last eagle
okay but i have a question, how do you bypass the geoblock youtube videos without vpn at all
hoary charm
you can't
charred fulcrum
okay but i have a question, how do you bypass the geoblock youtube videos withou...
You can't
It's geoblock
ocean vigil
just travel, watch the video, travel back, easy
charred fulcrum
I mean there's the workaround way
last eagle
if only i have that will
charred fulcrum
Ask your friend from the not geoblocked country to yt-dlp it
That's not exactly "watching" per se but it gets to your destination
blazing depot
Just don't download anything without a good VPN, cause you can bet your ass there's trackers on the majority of it and your ISPs are very happy to help poor rights holders out
hoary charm
funny enough i dont actually pirate much anymore
gaben was right
but i have proton
i got a 50% off thing for the yearly sub with everything so i just switched to that
should probably swap from 1password to protons too but 
proud tulip
good timing
keen nest
A pirate yuh yuh
Rigged I listened to this song for the first time in like a year and a half a day ago
fossil basin
https://fxtwitter.com/WashTimes/status/656483706211835905?t=aMNWlZ9JGpRB7qGZHKmIoQ&s=19
Old news that did not age well
trim flicker
aged spectacularly
last eagle
charred fulcrum
fuck
dusky rapids
yep
charred fulcrum
Oh yeah our health minister has a whole Github for COVID
half heath
honestly I was just thinking about how much of a hole in my memory exists from the lockdowns
I dont want to do that again even if there is some nostalgia for the world slowing down
hoary charm
same
half heath
like 3 years just feel like they were skipped
hoary charm
i was out of work from april 2020 to march 2021 and i don't remember much at all from april 2020 to like end of 2023
half heath
I only remember the stuff that has some connection to school and work
but a lot of it was just doing nothing
valid magnet
People got more insufferable online thanks to lockdown
last eagle
if lockdown happens again, will i fall into the rabbit hole of kpop twice?
guess i'll find out soon
dire canopy
the weird thing about the lockdowns was that nothing changed for me
eager parrot
while I remember 2020-2023, my sense for passage of time for that period is completely wonky
it simultaneously felt like forever and a blink of an eye
I really feel bad for those who had their critical growth years during that period of time
might never recover for the rest of their lives
that on top of long-term covid impact on the body and brain
since pretty much almost everybody has caught covid once by now whether they know it or not
ocean vigil
he also went off on Bruce Springsteen, Bono and probably some more that I missed
blazing depot
ye
He went "Just wait and see what happens when youn return to the US" to Bruce
Which is definitely a very normal thing to say
lime spire
Guys I just went on my back padeo and saw Donald Trump
toxic spoke
new slop tools just dropped
https://x.com/googledeepmind/status/1924893528062140417
https://x.com/googledeepmind/status/1924893531300077675
X
X
marsh oracle
Ive seen plenty of people argue for useful applications for other ai models but i dont think ive ever seen a good reason why video creation should exist lol
toxic spoke
just straight up IP theft for profit
marsh oracle
Poggers
dreamy ledge
unborn echo
thank god i dont have any intellect and property they can steal
livid frigate
We gotta get rid of ai
Ai is mostly pointless and just encourages people to be stupid
trim flicker
thank god i need no encouragement
haughty steppe
thank god i need no encouragement
half heath
The Joey vs West Coast/TDE thing is pretty fun but ngl it's showing how little actual rappers there is coming out of NY.
Joey holding his own but I think the West just doing it better
Also Joey and Kendrick honestly were blowing up same time but Kendrick lapped him like 5 times, it's a shame his music career didnt go as expected
half heath
oops thought I was in music channel
hoary charm
Ive seen plenty of people argue for useful applications for other ai models but ...
this really doesn’t need to exist
last eagle
he got mad at "those" ai videos of him and finally did the justice (maybe)
https://fxtwitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1924566327609680162
supple dragon
whoa finally good decision
last eagle
trump did something good for once
marsh oracle
Welcome to the era of populism
fossil basin
blazing depot
No.
half heath
idk if it's a joke but after the minecraft movie I realized how silly people are over movies intended for younger audiences. Minecraft movie was fun enough when I watched with my niece and nephew.
Although this would legitimize brainrot more than id like. But has to be a joke 
fossil basin
https://www.billboard.com/music/latin/shakira-concert-new-jersey-measles-exposure-warning-1235977840
eager parrot
in the year of our lord 2025, we have to worry about exposure to measles in public spaces, a disease considered 99.999% eliminated for at least 20+ years now...
truly a dark timeline
lime spire
last eagle
yea but there's gaming chat channel too
last eagle
otherwise <#1022122099374051328> is better suited for your posting
that one here @lime spire
lime spire
blazing depot
Man... this whole debacle
Elon was there, obviously
At this point presidents on WH visit will have to get prepped for jumpscare roasts
fossil basin
The end point of Elon is to reinstall Apartheid in South Africa
That's why the special disdain
last eagle
toxic spoke
get me in the uplift trials we're cooking up stuff you never heard of
trim flicker
not illegal if the president does it 🧠
marsh oracle
More smart people for europe
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1925601418297450724
marsh oracle
I have an idea to solve ai usage in schools 
last eagle
lmfao
hoary charm
I have an idea to solve ai usage in schools <:MonkaHmm:1221983311375761489>
the blackmail part is funny too
fossil basin
Possible lilo&stich spoilers for whoever cares (i do not)
||https://fxtwitter.com/Tsuru_kun2/status/1925673514448634001?t=ANt7m_4BuXDD_UbxedtO8g&s=19||
marsh oracle
Wow its already the end of the month again https://www.reuters.com/business/trump-pushes-eu-cut-tariffs-or-face-extra-duties-ft-reports-2025-05-23/
fossil basin
livid frigate
Trump should just keep on destroying the economy
ocean vigil
when the trade deficit you are losing your mind over is less than your golfing expenses
last eagle
Thanks Trump, your country is now in economy crisis
trim flicker
it would likely be less expensive for apple to pay 25% tariffs than to produce iphones in the US lol
fossil basin
He is also recommending a straight %50 tarrif on the EU starting June 1
charred fulcrum
https://fxtwitter.com/CNN/status/1925886186020655556?t=bSTWSlMKRblNDiFxiDo5-A&s=...
LMAO Apple's gonna pay the 25% tariff
ocean vigil
apple won't pay shit
trim flicker
i thought no iphone was a communism thing
ocean vigil
that would be usphone
trim flicker
maga communism
ocean vigil
you could probably power a small city if you hooked up reagan to a generator
marsh oracle
I like how we went from tariffs by product class to tariffs by product class, country of origin and importing company
Good luck customs people 
trim flicker
tariffs based on wether mercury is retrograde
ocean vigil
yeah those people are so fucked
trim flicker
Good luck customs people <:o7:1327996037146607699>
less work for customs when there's nothing arriving in the US i guess
eager parrot
fossil basin
dire canopy
well he has been subpoenad afaik so I don't see how he would not
last eagle
shadow elbow
is 6000 users a major outage
dreamy ledge
he got mad at "those" ai videos of him and finally did the justice (maybe)
https...
reasons why it's not as good the way it was passed:
https://www.wired.com/story/take-it-down-act-law-passes/
hoary charm
reasons why it's not as good the way it was passed:
https://www.wired.com/story...
that's how they do it though, take something good (taking down unconsentual deepfakes) and stuff in wider censorship
now if you speak out against it they can just go "wow you support unconsentual deepfakes?"
eager parrot
it's a strategy every politicial side uses
in liberal democratic societies, like up in Canada and also parts of Europe, they tried to or succeeded in passing laws targeting encryption and privacy by using "think of the children" strategy, as well as censorship laws. same perhaps in Australia and New Zealand too.
democrats in the US have tried and many times succeeded in doing the same thing with gun laws, even if the supreme court and 2nd amendment gets in their way quite often.
it's highly effective polarizing an issue to get your agenda through
you're either with them or you're labeled as being with the most horrible fringe parts of the opposition to them.
hoary charm
in liberal democratic societies, like up in Canada and also parts of Europe, the...
we kind of had that with gun law changes
cause it was rammed through under urgency in response to christchurch
and who in their right mind would then go against that
eager parrot
never let a crisis or tragedy go to waste, and all that.
hoary charm
even though the law change was actually poorly done
eager parrot
I remember reading about your buyback there yeah
went quite poorly
unsurprisingly
hoary charm
the buyback wasnt really the problem, because the gun laws werent the problem in the first place
marsh oracle
you're either with them or you're labeled as being with the most horrible fringe...
This isnt even exclusive to politicians
hoary charm
it was purely a police vetting failure
marsh oracle
Which is probably why it works that well
hoary charm
the guy shouldnt have ever been given a license
hoary charm
i dont think thats really a problem either since we have reciprocal visa statuses
his main character referral was the parent of someone he met online
eager parrot
so many failures at some many levels, you almost start to believe conspiracy theories about them letting it happen, even though it is most often attributed to complete incompetence
in the US, far too often, laws that were seen as beneficial were expanded indefinitely and without restraint over many years and decades, and the original purpose of them were lost completely.
like the way the patriot act came to be and how it is being used today
marsh oracle
Did anybody ever post that clip of trumps fbi appointees saying epstein killed himself in here?
eager parrot
I remember seeing a clip like that, not sure if it was posted here though
eager parrot
This isnt even exclusive to politicians
it's probably so often used and so effective, it must have a debate/argument term for it lol
hoary charm
purity test?
marsh oracle
Its just a good ol strawman
eager parrot
maybe guilt by association
marsh oracle
Well they arent actually associating with the <Insert bad group here>
eager parrot
lol .......
either way, it's all forms of ad hominem fallacy anyway
since you are just trying to silence real arguments
vibe coders will be the end of us all
marsh oracle
Implying they can write safe code in the first place
Well they probably can but who includes "write a proper security config" in their prompt
hoary charm
eh this one is less about it writing safe code and more about people not being aware of prompt injections
marsh oracle
Yea i skimmed it, im just saying you dont even need some malicious attacker for your results to leave you wide open
marsh oracle
I was really surprised that the claude context window is still at 200k tokens
hoary charm
claude 4 is insane, so no idea if we're gonna continue down the path of "help i got hacked cause the bot didnt implement RLS properly" or they actually start to output best practices by default
marsh oracle
That seems like the major bottleneck for larger projects
hoary charm
you don't even need a large project, i used it to rebuild a small bot yesterday and since it'll just keep iterating and iterating for ages, itll eventually hit the context window
like the tool use is so good that it doesnt just give up like gemini or oai models do
marsh oracle
I figured they do some internal shenanigans to optimize the context window for the reasoning chains
hoary charm
i think they mentioned in certain scenarios they summarize CoT but not always
marsh oracle
Surely they dont include the entire cot in the next prompt
marsh oracle
i think they mentioned in certain scenarios they summarize CoT but not always
Yea they must be
Wish my company moved faster with making these available
Stuck on gpt 4.1
And cant use intellijs own Integration 
See this is proof that vibe coding sucks because why is every labs web interface terrible
hoary charm
i havent used max mode in cursor yet but i have a few threads hitting the 64k window and needing to be compressed
only thing its tripped up on so far is when i got myself into a circular dependency with effect layers so i had to fix it myself
marsh oracle
How are your bills looking?
marsh oracle
Lol
hoary charm
this pops up when you get to around 64k
max mode supports the full 200k but then you're paying api pricing per 1m
marsh oracle
Ah
hoary charm
i should just use this more
marsh oracle
The pricing jump for claude 4 was already pretty steep and afaik every lab sells their subscriptions at a loss
Wonder how long this can keep up
hoary charm
there was only a jump for opus
sonnet is still $3/$15
and opus is still cheaper than o3
ruby helm
A year from now, all sorts of security breaches from ai code, espically from contractors who have no real accountability if whatever they did falls over a few years later, and they left the company ages ago (and also it isn't really tracked that they are responsible for that code having been submitted)
marsh oracle
Who takes the fall for an ai fucking up will be an interesting question
hoary charm
pr reviewer then project manager
marsh oracle
and opus is still cheaper than o3
I mean yea o3 pricing is insane lol
hoary charm
and its not even that great either 
glad the only PRs i have to review for now are from a junior, even though he abuses the shit out of our github copilot plan
last eagle
there's a rumoured GPT-5 that combines GPT-4 series into one
ruby helm
who takes the fall if AI is put in change of pr review and messes up
hoary charm
they outright said gpt-5 will bring gpt series and o series into one model
not really a rumor
last eagle
oo
marsh oracle
sonnet is still $3/$15
Wait why did they not drop the price for 3.5 then lmao
3.5 and 4 just have the same price 
hoary charm
probably takes the same amount of compute
same pricing incentivizes moving to the newer model and deprecating the older ones sooner i suppose too
marsh oracle
glad the only PRs i have to review for now are from a junior, even though he abu...
Hope he still learns something
hoary charm
its okay i taught him how the key prop works in react last week
marsh oracle
Another react dev
Maybe my pivot to architecture will let me survive the ai lay offs an extra 6 months
last eagle
I should be scared that this would one day replaces us the human
hoary charm
full stack means i have three domains for it to outdo me in, i think i can handle having one taken from me soon
im finito once it gets to 2 tho
marsh oracle
Idk i asked it to refactor something this week and it missed like half of the required changes
Gpt4.1 tho maybe opus couldve done it
hoary charm
yeah theres your problem
gemini pro/sonnet/opus would fare way better
what are you using that is stuck on gpt? you mentioned intellij?
marsh oracle
Opus probably wouldve revolted cause the requirements suck ass but what are you gonna do when you merge two systems
marsh oracle
what are you using that is stuck on gpt? you mentioned intellij?
Im using compliance
hoary charm
Im using compliance
oh yeah lol rip
sometimes it doesnt feel like it, but shits coming for me too dw
marsh oracle
Eh idk if it really will
I still think most of the ai layoffs are just cover stories lol
hoary charm
oh for sure
marsh oracle
Yes mr investor we will quintillouple productivity with this one simple trick
hoary charm
zirp overhiring and they need to cut costs
marsh oracle
Dont worry, if it happens we can all pivot to being venture capitalists
Famously the only job that AI cant replace
ruby helm
You can save millions with AI, then when it doesn't save millions, you can save millions again by cutting the contract for it that costs milllions
a gift that keeps on giving
marsh oracle
True
Also whenever my company wants to reduce headcount they just stop hiring and wait for people to retire lol
hoary charm
reminds me i need to get onto my resignation email
marsh oracle
Youre going to modhaus? 
marsh oracle
I get those from union negotiations
hoary charm
that makes sense then
marsh oracle
Probably would make more money somewhere else but the rest is just too nice 
vital needle
Got that train union
Ew a commie
icy pine
US FDA centers to deploy AI internally, following experimental run - https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-fda-centers-deploy-ai-internally-immediately-2025-05-08/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
FDA recently asserted using generative AI pilot for scientific review.
livid frigate
It really is over, huh?
valid magnet
I am so tired of AI
Likely
If we even get AI accounts on social media
Dead internet theory becoming real
shadow elbow
become dave bautista in the robot movie
dire canopy
pretty sure ai accounts are a thing already
unborn echo
you forgot the middle step, thanos snap
ruby helm
Imagine if you could post anything on social media, and instantly get hundreds of people replying agreeing with you and praising you
and if you 5 min later mention you made a spelling error and actually meant to put a "not" in there they all change and agree with your new stance
ocean vigil
Imagine if you could post anything on social media, and instantly get hundreds o...
ah, the pro-russia politician in europe experience
when people that nobody beyond the borders knows get more likes than international celebrities
livid frigate
don't do that. it's just defeatist
fossil basin
Tech peaked when we invented vaccines
In 1700s?
Fun fact, Louis XVI was a headliner in promoting smallpox vaccine, even committed himself, Marie Antoniette and their children to take the vaccine
vital needle
Not early baby vaccines cool vaccines like the early 1900s
fossil basin
Fun fact, Louis XVI was a headliner in promoting smallpox vaccine, even committe...
Not uwuifying him, just thought it was cool to share
It was important that a high status person did something as example at that time for other nobility and lower classes to follow
Hence the act
livid frigate
I wish we had really nice and benevolent leaders like louis xvi
there's a lot of leadership lacking these days.
fossil basin
I wish we had really nice and benevolent leaders like louis xvi
He is not exactly all that but he tried to do something, ultimately however he wasn't decisive and firm enough to really go against nobility
vital needle
I have a take
livid frigate
and we should all learn a lesson from that. never try to change the powers that be. they truly know best
vital needle
If he hadnt brought skavery back napoleon would be a real cool dude
fossil basin
But also, he was in a shit position due previous cumulative effects of Louis XIV and XV
livid frigate
it's okay he got what was coming to him
fossil basin
Penultimately monarchs aren't to be excused or praised, but life of a monarch is an multifaceted and often tragic one as someone anti-monarch
livid frigate
it's okay because monarchies are a relic of the past
fossil basin
True, just whenever i visit a palace, i get a bit melancholic
livid frigate
because of all the wealth they horded?
fossil basin
Partly, but also due the large responsibilities people living within must have had (or atleast supposed to have had)
And also due feeling small within such large and monumental structures
blazing depot
it's okay because monarchies are a relic of the past
That's really only half true, plenty of those left in significant positions of power. Just in western countries they're largely symbolic.
vital needle
But the idiom relic of the past does not contradict this
It communicates the speaker's belief that they should have been left in the past rather than a claim that they have been left in the past
blazing depot
Ok, Mr. history teacher
fossil basin
That's really only half true, plenty of those left in significant positions of p...
Yeah, and there's probability in some future elon will attempt to make these royals come back to power
But regardless something is still relevant or not, whatever we inherit from it can be a relic of the past
blazing depot
That's just a matter of perspective though. We see it that way, people in countries with monarchies still firmly in power do not - and it's not like that's just some random countries in the middle of Africa that no one pays attention to because they're insignificant for the stage or global politics, they're major players. Just look at Trump's besties in the middle east.
fossil basin
That's just a matter of perspective though. We see it that way, people in countr...
Definitely, my definition of relics of past does not mean currently irrelevant
fossil basin
blazing depot
Cringe
last eagle
Truly cringe
icy pine
FDA recently asserted using generative AI pilot for scientific review.
I wonder why FDA rushed this decision.
I question AI adequately could review scientific papers rigorously.
“Peer Review” by AI.
keen nest
Ok that's kinda funny I was coming here to complain about AI
I see it's already talked about
Jesus fuck this Samsung os update is so god damn cringe
It's like half copy pasting an iOS update in a Samsung take on it or it's forcing AI in my face
blazing depot
So Meta can tell their shareholders that people love it
keen nest
Edge panel which I always use oh hey ai interpreter pinned at the very top but you can't just unpin it without digging through settings to find out how to unpin it and oh now that you have we've created a new problem that didn't exist before where now the apps are just stacked on top of one of each other in one big long row instead of two like you had it before. Oh if you want it back now you need to enable text descriptions underneath your apps in the edge panel and now it just looks ugly
This is textbook example of creating problems that don't exist
Like what the fuck Samsung
Or oh now every time I long press there's a new... Ai ✨ function as the first option I keep clicking on now
hoary charm
at least apple's AI implementation is so bad that they've not forced it anywhere (yet)
keen nest
I disabled whatever the fuck this was and it's still there under long press but now if I select it the phone just has a stroke for a second and nothing happens
I wonder if I restart if this goes away about to see
Oh cool long press power button for changed too
Thanks Samsung:D
Okay well restarting didn't get rid of it but if I click it now this writing assistant bs pops up again even though.. I have it disabled lol
toxic spoke
thanks ublock, no ai summary shit
keen nest
Oh you can't disable it LOL yep people on Reddit all complaining about it. Unreal
Welp if they keep doing more bullshit like this guess I'll be switching phones
Gotta be one of the most idiotic updates I've ever seen
marsh oracle
Switching phones wont help you, theyre all gonna do this eventually
keen nest
Yeah
marsh oracle
Its a custom rom angle
trim flicker
Okay well restarting didn't get rid of it but if I click it now this writing ass...
you just can't get rid of it
it's annoying af
valid magnet
Man it's ridiculous that i have to type in -ai everytime i google smth
fossil basin
valid magnet
Did yt just translated an English yt vid and let it speak with an AI generated voice in German
What
blazing depot
The poster has to enable that I believe but ye. Generally the whole voice narrator video sector (lore to sleep to and shit like that) is 100% AI generated stuff for that matter
valid magnet
I just wanted to watch a damn Batman video...
valid magnet
Okay for some reason it doesn't happen on the youtube app but it happens on firefox (android)
unborn echo
iirc its location based
maybe you have location permissions on the yt app off and the firefox has it on
valid magnet
Nope location is on in both
Only app language is different
Well at least it only happened in one vid
charred fulcrum
City council so shit they blotched concrete on damaged pedestrial walkways and call it "Action has been take, work done, tq"
And the govt complain why we don't use public transportations
charred fulcrum
https://theweek.com/world-news/manga-disaster-tourism-japan
wat
last eagle
wat
I watched this before and then like
damn, it might gonna affect Japan atp
and yep, weeks later today, lmao
charred fulcrum
Time traveler?
last eagle
There were like, 5:7 accuracy so far
charred fulcrum
Final Destination main character
charred fulcrum
There were like, 5:7 accuracy so far
Five over seven predictions
Bro is a prophet
last eagle
it's more like ratio than that lol
charred fulcrum
Okay so we have some sort of Final Destination prophet here
I mean did the book only touched natural disasters?
charred fulcrum
Ok lmao
last eagle
you can watch the video to see most of it
charred fulcrum
nah if the manga said "there will be a massive earthquake in July 2025 in Japan" I believe it
5:7
Most of conspiracy theorists' predictions don't even come close to touching a quarter of that ratio
fossil basin
https://fxtwitter.com/MrBeast/status/1926738013385633986?t=rvTM2LPJ7J1jvC0wDfBliA&s=19
Can he stop???
FxTwitter
last eagle
blazing depot
Good.
marsh oracle
hoary charm
banger
i figured out mcp yesterday and had it pull an issue from linear, make a plan then implement the plan almost perfectly
only had to fix one validation rule myself
marsh oracle
How big is your codebase you let it loose on?
blazing depot
i figured out mcp yesterday and had it pull an issue from linear, make a plan th...
Training your own replacement be like
hoary charm
Training your own replacement be like
that ship sailed at least last year
hoary charm
How big is your codebase you let it loose on?
not very big but it's a mess of a nextjs monorepo
as long as things are relatively contained it should manage fine since it'll grep for things its looking for, but if you have things spread across the repo then yeah its gonna trip up
toxic spoke
lol they're naming it like cars now https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-28/apple-to-rebrand-device-operating-systems-ios-26-macos-26-watchos-26
non paywall: https://archive.is/O3JLH
toxic spoke
Trump has commuted Larry Hoover's federal sentence (still serving state sentence for rest of life) and pardoned NBA YoungBoy
fossil basin
Trump has commuted Larry Hoover's federal sentence (still serving state sentence...
NBA Youngboy in big 2025
The White Lotus creator will join Survivor
toxic spoke
marsh oracle
trim flicker
my bad
hoary charm
just a prank bro!!!
dreamy ledge
🏌️♂️
vital needle
https://fixupx.com/Mollyploofkins/status/1927415041671692361
Was expecting and hoping for a harder beating but oh well
half heath
I just wanna say as great as it feels to see ppl standing up for what's right, do you ever feel conflicted about double standards. Like there was an oddly parallel story earlier this year about the Jewish woman being chased away by zionists. Like I know the difference is one is advocating for hate which is what makes me feel okay with double standards but logically I feel like im missing something. Like maybe at our core we are all okay with uncivilised retribution
blazing depot
WHat do you think would happen to a punk going to a nazi concert (and yes, that's a thing)
Punk wouldn't just get shoved around a little
half heath
Yea like I said I see the parallels. But like to a degree isnt there a feeling of we don't want to be as bad as those guys.
like I felt disgusted by the story of that lady getting chased by zionists
Which is why im leaning towards maybe double standards are okay? But if i accept that it means I can't complain about double standards of othrr ppl
livid frigate
What double standard
blazing depot
Thing is.... zionists are within the overlap of a venn diagramm with jews, there's no part that doesn't overlap. It's just part of all jews, but still the same group essentially
So that whole comparison is kinda off
half heath
Getting violent or belligerent with ppl with a perspective i dont agree with
half heath
Nazis shouldn’t be allowed in public spaces
Yes I agree but there are spaces in the world, in the same country where people believe this about other ppl based on other things that I dont agree with.
half heath
Thing is.... zionists are *within* the overlap of a venn diagramm with jews, th...
actually kinda lost here.
marsh oracle
You can make a qualitative difference between ideologies, you dont need to treat all of them the same
half heath
I know what you're saying but confused why
livid frigate
Thing is.... zionists are *within* the overlap of a venn diagramm with jews, th...
Nazis are within the overlap of a venn diagram with white people, there’s no part that doesn’t overlap. It’s just part of all white people but still the same group essentially
half heath
You can make a qualitative difference between ideologies, you dont need to treat...
This is probably the conclusion im at
but again its subjective right. So like different people with the same conclusion are basically saying you're either with us or not and if you're not we're okay with you getting knocked out
and that's the core im trying to accept
like it really is tribalism even if i believe im on the right side
marsh oracle
If tribalism is what you wanna call it
I like liberalism and will advocate for a form of liberalism that can defend itself against anti-liberal ideologies
half heath
No for sure i agree, its just i considered tribalism to be more anti intellectual but its more the realisation that we aren't above it and maybe even like it
marsh oracle
Not sure how tribalism applies to sharing a broad set of values
Youre gonna make some tribalists very mad
Also the outgroup here is people actively, and not just allegedly, working to destroy the shared system 
half heath
you know what maybe im not applying it correctly.
rather than tribalism maybe more like mob justice
marsh oracle
Idk, that guy went looking for a fight and didnt even get one
Like try and figure out that guys thought process
blazing depot
Nazis are within the overlap of a venn diagram with white people, there’s no par...
No one denied that one
half heath
I jsut wanna be clear im not defending that dude
marsh oracle
No i dont think you are
marsh oracle
Well then hes mentally challenged
half heath
I mean sweet like the slang
marsh oracle
Either from birth or years of hardcore right wing media brain blasting
half heath
like the crowd is soft
blazing depot
Again, it's a punk concert, you couldn't find a less appropriate venue for a nazi if you tried
marsh oracle
Fwiw this is one of those issues at the edges of peoples moralities, i think its completely understandable to intuitively think this crowd reaction is bad
half heath
I only think its bad because it would justify worse ppl to act the same
marsh oracle
But whats the alternative, you mosh around with a guy in an SS shirt and youre supposed to be fine with it? Everybody not fine with the shirt leaves?
thorny schooner
nazi punks nazi punks fuck off
blazing depot
I only think its bad because it would justify worse ppl to act the same
See, there's the fallacy in your thinking. Said worse people wouldn't hesitate a second to do worse and have done so often an repeatedly
marsh oracle
I only think its bad because it would justify worse ppl to act the same
No it doesnt and they would just use any other excuse to justify it
half heath
See, there's the fallacy in your thinking. Said worse people wouldn't hesitate a...
that's definitely a good point
fossil basin
Again, it's a *punk* concert, you couldn't find a less appropriate venue for a n...
Didn't nazi punks exist since like 80s atleast as a community? Not to promote or validate them in any shape of form, moreso saying why i was less surprised
blazing depot
This whole "don't act like they do, be kind :)" nonsense doesn't help anyone
fossil basin
It is ironic but there is a viable community of them unfortunately
half heath
yea that's completely fair probably naive on my part
marsh oracle
The reason they constantly lie about trans people harassing children or w/e is because their hatred has no basis in reality so they have to invent one
fossil basin
Didn't nazi punks exist since like 80s atleast as a community? Not to promote or...
It is somewhat alike the hippie nazis or health-conscious/clean-living to nazism archtype in that you do not expect the correlations, but when you check into it it makes sense why both would be intertwined
half heath
Mmm yea i appreciate it, definitely got something out of the convo
marsh oracle
Didn't nazi punks exist since like 80s atleast as a community? Not to promote or...
They even got their own little music subgenre, wouldnt recommend
fossil basin
I am only saying it is not necessarily the most surprising relation, i like that they were kicked this way regardless
half heath
This whole "don't act like they do, be kind :)" nonsense doesn't help anyone
Just one thing lol Its more the getting violent part that crossed the line for me. But you guys are right, its miniscule compared to what worse ppl already are okay with doing.
blazing depot
On another note.... so... the court of appeals has stayed the stay to Trump tarrifs. And pretty much at the same time another court has stayed the tarrifs in a seperate case.
Good stuff, truly amazing.
fossil basin
For the catholics in this server this could be relevant
Also the account isn't a fake or parody one, they managed to bring news that a new pope was selected first before any outlet, cofounder of account is a lesbian catholic
keen nest
Oh yeah forgot I saw this today
Lmao
I'm sure someone will get enjoyment out of this
lime spire
valid magnet
W for PopeCrave
pale knot
oh... that's dashcon 2 being real...
fossil basin
Taylor Swift has reacquired her masters back from Shamrock for 300m dollars per Variety
fossil basin
Trump has said he wasn't following Diddy trial closely and says if he feels he is 'mistreated' after a conviction, that he'll pardon him
last eagle
X
ocean vigil
no they are not
proud tulip
what lmao
blazing depot
Big Keyboard actually puts in sounds undetectable by the human ear right under every key so they can always know what you type
trim flicker
idiots i just know what people type by looking at the words on their messages
much less effort
oak lodge
imply?
oak lodge
I'm not really sure haha
fossil basin
Though i was just flabbergasted he actually has a coherent opinion on something
Let alone queer history
livid frigate
Who even is this guy
fossil basin
Who even is this guy
Ex-sports commetator whose main hobby was to hate Lebron
dire canopy
AI art for 1500€ anyone?
clear tide
last eagle
X
blazing depot
valid magnet
I should prob watch the first one
last eagle
seems like the next HHN is themed after freddy fazbear
still in disbelief how almost 11 years ago Scott invented this indie game that would soon become this big
...except the recent stuffs is just eh
fossil basin
Har har har
dire canopy
I saw they added this bear into DBD
fossil basin
fossil basin
One thing i will say is for him to stay away from Go Won
nova holly
- why tf would you say that
- loads of (former) jp idols are posting "elon musk is not the father of my children" on their insta stories now
ive seen at least 5
id prefer not to think about more elon kids
fossil basin
1. why tf would you say that
the grimes godmother relation
fossil basin
fossil basin
half heath
we already know what's happening in US but damn its still hard to believe.
I mean for the FEMA thing as well
country got taken over by clowns
fossil basin
valid magnet
People being hypocrites and the sky is blue
valid magnet
Yeah there's like 5 women already it's crazy
blazing depot
Yeah, but Hamasaki Ayumi? That's like as if Beyonce said that, but JP
blazing depot
And on another note, turns out Joe Biden isn't even real
https://fixupx.com/atrupar/status/1929010124766515672?t=Vhz6ys2yLi4SlPfVwgpb0Q&s=19
Those gosh darn clones
valid magnet
But will the Bidens do Order 66
blazing depot
One could only hope
hoary charm
blazing depot
[insert Karina joke here]
last eagle
i'm gonna stay tuned to sbs then
this is going to be interesting
look at the counting room
last eagle
not south korea election coverage without this
still appreciate how well designed the coverage is
last eagle
as of 10pm kst:
proud tulip
woah
livid frigate
how's the election going in the puppet state?
livid frigate
that's awesome
proud tulip
damn they implemented that quickly, they're all gone!
marsh oracle
first time voters or why specifiy 2025 voters?
hoary charm
i think its 20-30 y/o voters in this election
ocean vigil
The provisional voter turnout for this election is 79.4%, according to local media reports.
This marks the highest turnout in South Korea since 1997. The record high was 89.2% in 1987, when the country held its first direct presidential election following nationwide pro-democracy protests.
Turnout hovered around 77% in the last two presidential elections.
last eagle
considering the fatal mistake and the greed the previous president were...
it makes sense why they don't want it running again
but who knows, the future can be brighter or darker...
half heath
marsh oracle
I like how theres like 3 different factions in this admin that are somehow all extremely stupid and evil in their own ways but also constantly at odds with each other
dreamy ledge
fossil basin
I like how theres like 3 different factions in this admin that are somehow all e...
Sounds familiar
livid frigate
yeah it's important to stand up to those jackboot thugs
dire canopy
agents from IRS?
half heath
Yeah idk about all that, I just see ICE, FBI, ATF, and Sherrifs
marsh oracle
https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022 he really thinks he did something here lmao
FxTwitter
half heath
I just saw that a few moments ago and I don't even know how to react. It's like watching a bunch of teenage girls who aren't friends anymore or something except they're technically 2 of the most influential people in the US.
brave pelican
well they broke up
marsh oracle
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1930690151132651886 another banger
Be careful republicans, the oligarch is angry
Also he thinks hes gonna be 90+ with that drug habit 
fossil basin
I just saw that a few moments ago and I don't even know how to react. It's like ...
Hope they don't make it up in the remix
half heath
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1930690151132651886 another banger
With JD Vance waiting and maybe even the Trump sons it's gonna be a long decade or more... Hopefully this term was enough to wake ppl up
blazing depot
Even MAGAs aren't gonna vote for those vapid excuses for humans Trump calls his sons
He'd have to send out Ivanka
half heath
Good God... the first female president being ivanka
And I don't know if the same base actually has enough standards to differentiate between Trump or his sons.
just gotta cook up more BS like trans ppl in sports to get them mad
valid magnet
https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022 he really thinks he di...
World's most tragic break up since idk Justin Bieber & Selena Gomez
eager parrot
And I don't know if the same base actually has enough standards to differentiate...
I don't know if it'll be Ivanka, but I'm still willing to bet the first female president of the US will be a republican.
trim flicker
https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022 he really thinks he di...
thanks elon what a really big bomb
the biggest even
blazing depot
It's not like this is his first time
Just this time it's... more prominent
Bro isn't good with breakups
X
lmao
Truly one of these days
trim flicker
incredible
blazing depot
The memeing on twt is great though, some quality stuff in there
Wheeeee
Surely NASA can handle all the space stuff
Best part, he's also breaking up with his right wing buddies all over the place, so them getting banned again might be a positive side effect of all this 
trim flicker
what a mess
marsh oracle
Musk actually being deported would be so fucking funny
Especially after they just took in those white south africans
blazing depot
ICE raid on Musk mansion incoming
half heath
yeah it feels good seeing them go after each other lol accidentally doing some good maybe
valid magnet
"I heard you was conflicted"
blazing depot
half heath
that's exactly what I was thinking lmfaoo
ruby helm
Soon Trump will be posting "DOGE is a huge waste of money, it was setup to save $100bn and couldn't even save $1m! It needs to go ASAP!"
blazing depot
I mean, that would be a good thing
hoary charm
for once the unprompted musk posting is warranted
last eagle
dire canopy
eager parrot
https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/06/googles-nightmare-how-a-search-spin-off-could-remake-the-web/
dreamy ledge
hoary charm
https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/06/googles-nightmare-how-a-search-spin-off-c...
only a matter of time before google updates the homepage to be a chat interface
marsh oracle
Give me a Google spinoff without the AI summaries and im sold
hoary charm
im sure there’s a way to add that element to ublock or some browser extension that nukes it
toxic spoke
im sure there’s a way to add that element to ublock or some browser extension th...
^^ #1042073107554381864 message
just add to My filters
blazing depot
half heath
Yeah sitting outside courthouses and immigration offices really is protecting the average American, such heroes...
half heath
Posting this just to give credit to these people, don't really think we should discuss too much cause of rules.
blazing depot
Well, Trump sent in the National Guard to LA against the will of the governor and mayor
Which... seems once again, very illegal
hoary charm
you forgot the golden rule: it's legal when trump does it
blazing depot
With all the gravitas such a major move entails
All of this 100% as planned when they sent in that 100+ troupe of gestapo... err .. I mean ICE agents into the streets of LA
Literally just marching down streets
dire canopy
so apparently they started calling the white house press secretary Taco Belle
blazing depot
They're calling all MAGAs TACO now, it's an acronym and one of those terrible Democrat ideas
hoary charm
egging him on to not chicken out seems like a great idea
fossil basin
so apparently they started calling the white house press secretary Taco Belle
KIOF paved the way
blazing depot
X
Well
Not even fighting for their freedom there, good stuff
And "world class hater" isn't even an insult, just the mildest version of an accurate description of that ghoul
half heath
man i wonder what these protests will lead to
livid frigate
hopefully the people being detained by ICE will be set free
half heath
Kinda feels like its gonna escalate more the way trump is talking
livid frigate
the police and national guard do love to escalate
blazing depot
Sending the national guard in was an illegal move to begin with, but you know
Nothing matters any more
livid frigate
it is all just a feature of the imperial boomerang unfortunately
half heath
the blown up cars and the smoke clouds is crazy to see
its not that chaotic but the image is really striking like the country's frustrations are blowing up
livid frigate
it's going to be a long hot summer
half heath
I know some americans like to talk about how hard euros protest to make fun of how complacent americans are but its good to see they arent lying down at least
livid frigate
they shouldn't be. it's good to resist ice and the police
half heath
I will say though, they are lacking some organization
livid frigate
well there's this and the israelis just detained everyone on the freedom flotilla
blazing depot
In international waters no less
trim flicker
very cool thank you israel
eager parrot
was the rule about this conversation being prohibited here lifted? 
blazing depot
was the rule about this conversation being prohibited here lifted? <:ChoerryNerv...
Them doing shitty things outside of that prohibited stuff can very much be mentioned. And last time I checked Greta Thunberg wasn't an active combattant
We could of course return to the other country that's quickly sliding into authoritarianism
https://fixupx.com/9NewsAUS/status/1931885297203347706?t=lhPcvTJM7VtjwFek3wYdXw&s=19
You know, normal things like shooting reporters
Fuuuuun
vital needle
Them doing shitty things outside of that prohibited stuff can very much be menti...
We must not criticize the most moral.army in the world and all of the wonderful things they do
oak lodge
awful as always
blazing depot
They saw the ice thugs on the streets and were like "Bro, that's OUR job."
valid magnet
oh hey there is a way to turn off the AI searches on google
over the site tenbluelinks
thanks bluesky
keen nest
hmm so I guess #kpop-chat-2 is no longer the chat I would ask this question lmao uhh
more tech related
youtube being cringe again about adblock and throttling the website now for me. Any suggestions? already cleared ublock cache and reset but yeah didn't do much
hey maybe this is what drives me to finally switch to firefox
dusky rapids
is it same as this? #1052028587076767807 message
dusky rapids
was the rule about this conversation being prohibited here lifted? <:ChoerryNerv...
it's an "either he back off, or we crash" approach to the rule, to quote f1 
not a discussion unless someone has anything to add to that comment, right?
livid frigate
oh are you a moderator?
dire canopy
are there any other rules like that?
livid frigate
no
trim flicker
pretty bad rule imo but 🤷♂️
proud tulip
which rule?
proud tulip
You're allowed to talk about Israel, but there's a pretty good track record of the conversation devolving and breaking multiple server rules, so just keep that in mind basically.
brave pelican
my thoughts on israel soon
fossil basin
https://www.rxddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/1l6ul5l/heres_your_lapd_when_they_t...
this is familiar
vital needle
We should defend israel and the most moral army in the world
I mean, the israeli government says such inspiring stuff
Just strong men defending their bloodline against demographic concerns, nothing wrong with that
Also I got 17/5 on the quiz
A hero
proud tulip
@vital needle what is there to gain from doing this here?
thorny schooner
can i do this quiz
usually they say dogs im suprised to just see animals mentioned
vital needle
<@296859712140345347> what is there to gain from doing this here?
Uh, letting a little anger out probably, that's usually what I'm thinking of when I talking about absurd political stuff
Same thing as talking about trump you express indignation then others go "yeah" and you feel a little better
Never stopped to question it that deeply though
vital needle
can i do this quiz
I gave you spoilers though
thorny schooner
true :(
vital needle
blazing depot
https://zionism.wtf/#zionist-or-nazi
spiderman.meme
livid frigate
They are one in the same
livid frigate
Yeah I always fuck this quiz up
blazing depot
FIFA had the world cup in Qatar, they dgaf about a little bit of blatant authoritarianism
blazing depot
FIFA is, like, up there as one of the most actually evil and corrupt organizations
livid frigate
the only other time the national guard got federalized was Eisenhower forcing Little Rock to desegregate
blazing depot
I would have expected legal challenges by now, but alas
vital needle
https://x.com/btnewsroom/status/1932189289736978930?s=46
President Xi, I am a 9 year old american kid and I need the world to know the suffering my people are going through, we have been living in a horrible dictatorship for decades, we have no right to free speech or to choose our own leaders. Please, president Xi, deploy your missiles and drones and bring freedom and democracy to our land
oak lodge
I wonder what they lack or have leveraged against them to avoid making such a sensible decision
or the simple answer, they can just be stupid
livid frigate
Israel is allowed to do whatever they want and face no consequences
eager parrot
Israel is allowed to do whatever they want and face no consequences
I mean
they are literally doing what they did with the previous groups in Palestinian regions with a new one now...
Hamas was supported by them originally as a counter to other movements
though I suppose this is straight out of the United States' playbook
livid frigate
Is this the isis derivative group that Israel is funding
livid frigate
they are literally doing what they did with the previous groups in Palestinian r...
The whole region is Palestinian. Don’t get that confused
vital needle
Hamas was supported by them originally as a counter to other movements
The more violent the group they prop up, there's a bigger possibility of israeli civilians being killed and then they get justification for further genocide
It's a win-win for them
fossil basin
Israel is allowed to do whatever they want and face no consequences
basically
proud tulip
You're allowed to talk about Israel, but there's a pretty good track record of t...
shocked I tell you, shocked
dusky rapids
squints
marsh oracle
Not even squinting can help you here
blazing depot
What in the graphic design passion hells is this
hoary charm
in typical apple fashion, it looks decent in demos but falls over as soon as people try out the betas
this is a crime too https://x.com/LinusEkenstam/status/1932185156489761223
X
blazing depot
This isn't even memes any more, just tragicomedy
last eagle
ironic, even
here's another one
https://fxtwitter.com/OutOfGalaxyy/status/1932187324693274759
hoary charm
well yeah.. early developer betas are always like this
last eagle
damn, the new design is so awful to watch
maybe they can learn from windows vista... heh
vital needle
https://x.com/abnux/status/1932137351956029618
Is being able to read stuff considered outdated design now
Or is it a meme
Nvm im dumb
haughty steppe
https://fxtwitter.com/benhylak/status/1932270549209891130
haughty steppe
This isn't even memes any more, just tragicomedy
Hey I can use my newly earned degree!
It's bad!
Wrong reply joke failed
last eagle
icy pine
We could of course return to the other country that's quickly sliding into autho...
Indeed
Authoritarian regimes
deft spoke
invisible iphone 20 next
type shit
before yk it their macbooks will be a piece of paper
last eagle
the only W feature of iOS 26 is this
https://fxtwitter.com/9to5mac/status/1932439373221659031
blazing depot
Eventually some elementary school principal is gonna let them in
ocean vigil
Eventually some teacher is gonna get shot
blazing depot
Well now, that's just part of the job in the US
ocean vigil
ICE should step it up in the uniform department though
I know where they could take an inspiration from
ocean vigil
marsh oracle
Btw they had to bring garcia back from el salvador after all https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kilmar-abrego-garcia-was-mistakenly-deported-el-salvador-will-face-fed-rcna211514
Those charges seem very convenient to be coming out now though 
blazing depot
Making sure to file in the reddest of states so nothing goes wrong, too
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/cspan/status/1932448738674389351
I am not exactly going to be upset about much happening to Newsom by people he seeks after more than his voter base
doesn't mean I endorse Trump's actions, it will however be an interesting sight at this point
marsh oracle
Bro
fossil basin
quite frankly Newsom has overtimed at being a horrible nasty man
fossil basin
i just hope the californian residents will be alright, probably not, but that is what I can hope for
hoary charm
Actually nvm ignore it
governor of the bluest state in the country
still isn't enough to pass the purity test
marsh oracle
Also newsom getting arrested immediately makes him the next nominee lol
hoary charm
newsom posting on twitter angling for the nominee while vance is replying to tpot joking about deporting the menswear guy
really is the everything app
fossil basin
Also newsom getting arrested immediately makes him the next nominee lol
if so I hope he does not get arrested
fossil basin
>governor of the bluest state in the country
>still isn't enough to pass the pur...
he is low tier even amongst democrat politicians
hoary charm
all democrats are low tier since they’ve lost to trump twice now
fossil basin
and gavin would ensure a thrice streak of losses
fossil basin
if so I hope he does not get arrested
I have to give it to you, I had not thought it that way, it does make sense
brave pelican
low tier and democrat is redundant
marsh oracle
imagine world politics if leftists fell in line for elections as much as right wingers
alas
hoary charm
lmfao
lime spire
Trump stumbles on steps up to WHAT!?
fossil basin
imagine world politics if leftists fell in line for elections as much as right w...
for my part i like voting
i like to vote before right to vote gets taken away from me
which is soon i fear
so i like having my rights exercised by myself
fossil basin
Trump stumbles on steps up to **WHAT!?**
vital needle
imagine world politics if leftists fell in line for elections as much as right w...
Yeah the world is bad because of the like 3000 maoist third worldists in the us who didn't vote in 2024 and not any other reason
marsh oracle
well i would say intellectually dishonest people like you rank higher but sure, we can go with that
vital needle
Lmao
Oh no someone who disagrees with the mighty liberal, how dishonest of me
If you didnt support a shit ideology more people would vote for your shit candidates
near jetty
i speak for all american leftists when I say we fell in line for the real president and wrote in Joe Biden
livid frigate
True
ocean vigil
Any famous square in Washington DC?
fossil basin
At least Biden only had a little bit of dementia and cancer, no big deal
it is quite odd media do not seem to be commenting on trump's health as much
I commented on both so I am not hypocritical on this topic, but it is off that trump seems atleast as dementiac and fatigued as biden
blazing depot
it is quite odd media do not seem to be commenting on trump's health as much
It's really not at all. There's way too many other things to report on coming from his administration and too little time
fossil basin
It's really not at all. There's way too many other things to report on coming fr...
i guess
but surely reporting on his health would have been an effective way to press against him
half heath
Would it change anything? The reason logical attacks even work on Democrats is cause they care to follow reason usually. Calling Trump old and senile wouldn't work cause all they do is deny and move on
fossil basin
Would it change anything? The reason logical attacks even work on Democrats is c...
I am not saying it'd be an end all solution, just would be a helpful thought
half heath
I think there are a million other stronger critiques
that haven't been effective either
fossil basin
even regular people who do not follow US politics much in other countries knew about Biden being senile due correct reporting that he is, but not that much reporting on Trump is a bit suspicious given he is not that conscious himself
blazing depot
Honestly I almost wanna see that stand-off, there were already an expected protester count of well over 50k, let them all congregate on one point of the route of that parade and see what anyone does about that
Can't forget, protesters always outnumber the security forces
dire canopy
people knew that Trump is dumb since forever
I remember hearing back in elementary school that Trump was surprised that the french don't have a word for entrepreneur
last eagle
deft spoke
😭😭
ngl if i drive 4 hours from NL i'm almost in paris which is.. kinda crazy now that i realise it
last eagle
it's just insane how the real size compares against each countries
ocean vigil
there are four capital cities that are roughly 4h away from me
last eagle
getting to capital city by train took approximately 10 hours
deft spoke
dangg
the weirdest thing is that train priced here are so expensive (at least NL) that it's cheaper for me to go to lets say scandinavia by plane (around 40€ months ahead ofc) instead of paying 100+ for a train ticket
kinda insane to think about
especially environmentally wise, lots of europeans mostly use either plane or car for trips i'd say?
dusky rapids
https://fxtwitter.com/_esekupse/status/1932298444200436095/en
i thought if you drive for 3h you will end up in the sea
ocean vigil
booo
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or stuck in jakarta traffic
last eagle
well 10 hours + traffics
there you go lol
by car tho however...
it can take up to around a day
i can't remember the exact time last time my family went to jakarta
but it's way longer
and it includes rest stops
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oh yeah, now that i look on google maps
java is basically same length (end-to-end) as west malaysia
last eagle
well 10 hours + traffics
speaking of this train tho, this is the longest route ever available in the country with no transits
From the very far east of Java to Jakarta and vice versa
totalling near 1000km
for roughly 500k rupiah for the cheapest price
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https://fxtwitter.com/_esekupse/status/1932298444200436095/en
colonialism makes a lot more sense now
last eagle
dire canopy
to be fair I could be driving for 3 hours in a circle around my house and then say that I never even left my hometown
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maybe someday i could visit indonesia
last eagle
that same amount is like the duration of one city to another
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literally only been to batam