bruh is there any politican there that doesnt want settlements
#Misc Chat
near jetty
hoary charm
peaked at sleepy joe
trim flicker
karl mala
pale flower
iirc Lapid is against the settlements
near jetty
says he supports "maintaining the large Israeli settlement blocs"
pale flower
Oh let me check
near jetty
i can not verify because i dont know hebrew
pale flower
i can not verify because i dont know hebrew
I think it's more in the terms of agreeing on land swaps but still allowing Jewish towns/cities to exist within the state of Palestine that would exist
pale flower
Which like, ideally if you think about it would be really great to have
near jetty
this is what it points to
trim flicker
https://fxtwitter.com/JuiceSimpsons/status/1839864051049930992
banger
pale flower
https://yeshatid.org.il/platforms/מדיני-בטחוני I think this should be their most updated plans if they were to get elected? The part after "introduction" here if you auto-translate it
fossil basin
by he i mean the mayor
marsh oracle
That does make sense in hindsight
pale flower
These usually change up a bit every election season though so it might not be the most updated in terms of their thoughts on the current war
trim flicker
by he i mean the mayor
Checks out
near jetty
"As part of a future peace agreement, Lapid said Palestinians would have to recognize that the large West Bank settlement blocs of Ariel, Gush Etzion and Ma'aleh Adumim would remain within the State of Israel."
pale flower
I think that's fair, right? Either that or they remain as Jewish majority blocks within the state of Palestine but that might be more difficult as part of a two state solution
livid frigate
"As part of a future peace agreement, Lapid said Palestinians would have to reco...
insane
near jetty
yeah idk about this
pale flower
I think it's still a good step forward, it doesn't have to end there imo
Like imagine they take one step forward towards peace and it all goes well, and then they can take further steps in the peace discussions
Could become part of a multi-part plan if it really matters that much to both sides
oak lodge
in a progressive sense, it settles for less.
near jetty
its probably the best option you got but i would not be jazzed about it
pale flower
Like okay let me put it this way
I think any peace for plan will have to be gradual because you can't force peace on the two nations since they have majorrrrrrrrrr trust issues with one another
vital needle
in a progressive sense, it *settles* for less.
Heh
marsh oracle
This is also why expanding the settlements even more is so detrimental
Its gonna be a major block in any peace talks in the future
pale flower
Yep I agree
livid frigate
there shouldn't be any settlements in the west bank if you want a two state solution. the settlements erode the option of peace
near jetty
also looks bad on maps
pale flower
I think it can be a good talking point within the peace discussions, I think it has been for the past few attempts too.
livid frigate
if israeli can get rid of their settlements in gaza then they can get rid of the settlements in the west bank if they were going to be committed to a lasting peace between israelis and palestinians
vital needle
also looks bad on maps
Border gore
pale flower
Yeah but iirc last time that happened there was also a lottttt of internal disagreement. Either way though before we talk about the actual plans, it'll still be a bit before either party is ready to actually discuss a peace agreement, unfortunately
Like I said earlier today though I hope it can happen sooner rather than later
livid frigate
The settlements in the West Bank are illegal
dusky rapids
also looks bad on maps
blazing depot
The whole occupation of west bank is illegal for that matter, but alas
vital needle
Which is also the fault of colonialism
If we cant agree to be against colonialism because of human rights, can we at least oppose it based on map tidyness?
livid frigate
Wdym colonialism brought human rights to the world
blazing depot
Colonialism is also de-escalation through escalation when you think about it
livid frigate
True
marsh oracle
Yea we should go back to random people drawing straight lines on a map
If a state isnt a rectangle, its gotta change
fossil basin
If we cant agree to be against colonialism because of human rights, can we at le...
map tidyness is ought to be least of politicians' worries
blazing depot
It's like Loona albums, having them all in the same shape and size looks nice on the shelf map
dusky rapids
Which is also the fault of colonialism
i know a thing or two about colonialism
like when malaysia owned the land (in sg) beneath the train stations & railway tracks of the railway line connecting singapore and malaysia
vital needle
Sorry I dont get your point
blazing depot
Sock puppet crocodile
dusky rapids
Sorry I dont get your point
there's no point, just another fun case of land in other country's land
resulting from colonial past
radiant linden
good stuff
clear tide
keep out!
proud tulip
has he not retired yet
blazing depot
has he not retired yet
He'll be back
proud tulip
god i hope not
fossil basin
funny enough turkish people love boris johnson
because of nepotism (his great-grandfather was turkish)
proud tulip
oh yeah, TIL
also for those who don't know, his full name is Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
bloody Pfeffel
fossil basin
well, not love as in worship him, but they show this weird symphathy for him
proud tulip
a portion of his popularity from here was just from when he was mayor of london and an absolute goofball
and at the time it was fine, because there's much less responsiblity being the mayor of london as the FUCKING PRIME MINISTER
also not my consitituency so didn't bother me what he did, but then he just continued being a goofball while attempting to run everything
eager parrot
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/27/boris-johnson-diary-covid-vaccin...
see now that would have been a war
naval war
two major ex-colonialist imperialist naval powers finally going at it
the dutch with their bicycles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_infantry
half heath
https://i.redd.it/3sm87kzmxkrd1.jpeg
What even is the point....What are their goals? Like you're gonna die eventually none of it going with you. They just want a high score?
eager parrot
Depends on which one of them you look at
some of them like Elon are pro-creation and just want to create their own clan for generations to come
so the money's gonna go there, and to achieve their lofty goals like space travel, electric cars, etc.
others ........ well we're all human after all, greed is incurable.
trim flicker
Isn't that also just the money we know of
I'm sure they all have some insane amount of wealth hidden in panama or whatever
eager parrot
taxing the rich isn't the only solution to this, the rich rarely pay that much taxes compare to their wealth or earnings, they have and known every trick in the books to pay as little as possible to the government, including planting their own politicians in place.
you have to look at what mechanisms allowed such insane concentration of wealth.
eager parrot
did you gloss over the part about planting their own politicians?
our societies haven't fundamentally changed, we're all still living in feudal oligarchies, we just don't notice it as often.
and it's not as blatant as say Russia's
marsh oracle
no im saying taxing the rich is the solution, them having influence on politics makes that harder to implement
eager parrot
fair, still though, you could try and not allow them to get THAT rich in the first place.
marsh oracle
but kamala ran on an unrealized gains tax for anything above 100 million and she got blasted for it
marsh oracle
(kind of a stupid proposal but also the only version you can explain in one minute)
trim flicker
Billionaires using their media companies to shift the public perception on things like this is the standard
People are largely in favor of taxing the rich more and making sure they pay
half heath
sometimes I wonder how much they really must be making and how little it must cost to lobby for them to keep interfering with government
marsh oracle
are they really?
cause i feel like whenever anybody comes out with a real proposal on how to do it, they get dragged through the mud
wealth tax, unrealized gains tax, even higher inheritance taxes
half heath
who does the dragging? the media?
marsh oracle
including social media yea
dire canopy
it's kinda crazy when you actually do math about how rich these guys are
trim flicker
On the media those billionaires own, yes
But if you ask a random voter if the billionaires should pay higher taxes they'll all most likely say yes
dire canopy
like if you earned 7000$ every hour of every day since the birth of Christ you still wouldn't have as much money as Bezos
marsh oracle
ok looks like warrens wealth tax had like a 70% support rate
blazing depot
and it's not as blatant as say Russia's
Uhuh
marsh oracle
well we can do the republicans vs democrats song and dance again i guess
half heath
Which social medias? The people who are against them don't make sense to me personally
Oh
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Same thing for a lot of progressive policies in general, it largely depends on how you word it too
Like the obamacare vs affordable care act thing
half heath
I guess there are the people who just don't trust the government to use those funds better than billionaires for some reason
marsh oracle
did i post that price gouging vs price control chart in here
dire canopy
Same thing for a lot of progressive policies in general, it largely depends on h...
also funny that people hate those things calling it socialism but when trump gave everyone money during covid nobody said a thing about socialism
half heath
also funny that people hate those things calling it socialism but when trump gav...
I've heard people wanna vote for trump again because of how sweet that was for them despite him initially not wanting to do it.
trim flicker
yeah he'll do that again fr
half heath
like they're expecting it again or something lol
dire canopy
I can see him do that if he thinks he will get elected again
marsh oracle
hey at least its an economic policy proposal
his other one is a 10 (sometimes 20, maybe even 30, who knows)% tariff on everything so he can only go up
dire canopy
unless there is a law about not being able to run three times I know people refused to run for the 3rd time before because of George Washington before unless I'm mistaken
marsh oracle
nah you can run however many times you like
half heath
https://i.redd.it/jkv9zdzcmjrd1.jpeg
Does this seem helpful? Idk why seems like not enough still but better than nothings for sure.
marsh oracle
and you have the money for
marsh oracle
https://i.redd.it/jkv9zdzcmjrd1.jpeg
Does this seem helpful? Idk why seems like...
seems pretty helpful but the unfortunate reality is that the world kinda just has to wait for real wages to catch up to inflation again
half heath
I live in Toronto though. Costs for everything is crazy here so I might have bad perspective
People move 40 mins to an hour away from Toronto just to find a slightly cheaper home.
marsh oracle
ya, global problem right now
half heath
it's still like 1.2 Mill for a nice family home
marsh oracle
and the only answer is build more homes but theres various reasons thats not happening in each country
half heath
and 2M in Toronto and surrounding suburbs
dire canopy
over here it is funny because people used to work near the borders in Germany and Austria for better wages
and then going there for better quality products and then cheaper products as well
and nowadays even the housing is cheaper there
marsh oracle
going where? you mean switzerland?
dire canopy
nah from czech republic some people travel for work to germany and austria
marsh oracle
oh yea
near jetty
pfps are free btw
marsh oracle
this is my brand
dire canopy
I don't have anything really I would want as one
marsh oracle
problem is that you have a bunch of nimbys blocking a lot of infrastructure projects
ocean vigil
it will be the main point of my campaign when I run for an office
dire canopy
I could take the same pfp and tilt it like 5 degrees to the left
is that acceptable or is that gonna make people more mad?
near jetty
it's a greener green
near jetty
it's not even November yet
marsh oracle
but it is speculaas season already
dire canopy
ok I made the icon tilted a little hopefully it helps
ocean vigil
it looks like you're leaning in to listen
brave pelican
the listener
marsh oracle
am i crazy or is it more teal now?
dreamy ledge
different shade of green
dire canopy
had no idea how to get the pfp so I just downloaded the first green discord pfp I found
vital needle
seems pretty helpful but the unfortunate reality is that the world kinda just ha...
Just wait? Why do you believe they will ever rise?
eager parrot
And which type of inflation is another question
inflation formulae are highly subjective and economists take hundreds of factors into account especially the ones that central banks declare. they aren't always reflective of the kind of inflation people, citizens, consumers, etc. experience.
wages will never catch up even to that underestimate inflation formula, let alone anything else like housing inflation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2024/03/23/summers-inflation-reached-18-in-2022-using-the-governments-previous-formula/
https://www.nber.org/papers/w32163
marsh oracle
ok well i guess the historic trend of people getting richer is gonna reverse here and we are stuck here
eager parrot
people getting richer
Okay citation for this and perhaps a side by side or comparison with cost of living?
marsh oracle
worst case we really are headed for a global crash in the housing market and it takes us 30 years to recover
heres your side by side
obviously shits been pretty fucked the last few years
eager parrot
I can only shake my head at such an example.
marsh oracle
ok scooters arent that bad
eager parrot
at least the kid still has his father and grandfather
the father's hipster beard notwithstanding
marsh oracle
housing prices will obviously have to come down one way or the other, be that by finally building a shit ton of housing or a market crash
eager parrot
The fundamental perspective on housing being a form of investment has to change for that to happen.
At least in certain markets, the issue is that housing, especially rental market, has been slowly taken over by large corporate landlords, and they're not going to let it all crash.
marsh oracle
i mean good luck with that
eager parrot
And this is such a geographically specific kind of conversation, jurisdictionally different even a few dozens of miles to each direction at times, let alone between states, provinces or countries. We're all experiencing it but differently and due to different factors.
marsh oracle
housing prices in germany have actually already gone down a bit because with the current interest rates and housing prices you really cant buy anything
trim flicker
The fundamental perspective on housing being a form of investment has to change ...
yep
housing isn't a investment it's a basic human necessity and should be treated as such
building more houses helps but the fundamental issue is how housing is seen
vital needle
ok scooters arent that bad
They are
eager parrot
building more houses helps but the fundamental issue is how housing is seen
right, building more units that sell at the same price or higher (because newer build) as existing units doesn't help anybody
especially not those already struggling with rental costs or even basic 5-10% downpayments on existing units
no developer seems interested in building cheaper more dense social housing or rental units.
either the government has to get back in the business of building housing, or they have to incentivize developers (ie. subsidize) at a very high cost to the taxpayers to build such units.
vital needle
You already know about the stalinka, now get ready for the kamalaka
It would be fire
eager parrot
reducing demand should also be part of the formula, just as increasing supply is important, but eventually they have to address the issue of housing being a form of long term, sometimes generational investment, and the NIMBY types who don't want denser housing units in their area.
eager parrot
It would be fire
probably literally
vital needle
Tbf nimbys are just a consequence of housing as investments as well, just middle class
eager parrot
yes
part of that is driven by government policies too, from municipal and country level all the way to national level
they make it so difficult to rezone areas, to get permits for building new units, etc.
they're just as NIMBY as the people who vote them into office.
and of course higher levels of government are guilty of not investing enough into infastructure and expansion of usable areas with access to clean water, stable electricity supply, municipal sewer access, healthcare clinics or hospitals, schools, etc. etc.
it's not a matter of too little or too much regulation either, it's just a matter of slow AF administrative mechanisms
marsh oracle
Join your local yimby movement today
eager parrot
careful there, you might veer into collarbone's ideological zone
we could all use a bit of communist socialism when it comes to housing I will admit
perhaps less brutalist postconstructivist designs though
marsh oracle
Collarbone probably hates the average yimby cause they dont want to kill politely talk to landlords
eager parrot
I don't entirely hate that position, some of these landlords need to go
vital needle
Brutalist designs are awesome
eager parrot
the corporate ones especially
marsh oracle
Dont think it matters too much, who builds the houses, the state itself or private investors
With more supply the prices come down either way
eager parrot
like why does bill gates own 250,000 acres of farmland across this country...
eager parrot
With more supply the prices come down either way
private investors would hate their unit prices coming down
marsh oracle
God forbid men have hobbies
marsh oracle
private investors would hate their unit prices coming down
Oh for sure
eager parrot
Brutalist designs are awesome
to look at from the outside perhaps
marsh oracle
But with reduced cost to building houses, others will build them
eager parrot
absolutely depressing to live in
vital needle
Collarbone probably hates the average yimby cause they dont want to ~~kill~~ pol...
I dont usually hate people who disagree with me because its imaterial, i hate people that do bad things
eager parrot
But with reduced cost to building houses, others will build them
yes, reduce the red tape, the administrative backlog and NIMBYism, and perhaps free market will help build more, cheaper units
vital needle
Like landlords
eager parrot
individual landlords that own a few investment properties are far less damaging to the housing market than large corporations, investment firms, banks, etc owning entire city blocks
those types definitely deserve the hate as they are direct contributors to the housing crisis
eager parrot
short term rentals are devastating in larger, more touristy cities
in parts of the world that they banned that kind of thing, rental supply increased significantly and prices dropped
it definitely needs to be part of the approach
marsh oracle
Oh are there already cities that banned it?
Thought a bunch of talking were still in the talking stage
Oh apparently Berlin banned it lol
vital needle
Exceedingly rare german w
eager parrot
I think in North America, a few coastal cities at least added significant restrictions
vital needle
I am very proud to say that ich bin ein berliner
brave pelican
do it to new york i wanna see something
eager parrot
like limiting it to principal residence only or secondary suits in the same residence
rather than being able to use a rental unit for it
marsh oracle
Who wouldnt want to be a berliner
dusky rapids
Oh are there already cities that banned it?
sg banned airbnb too 🦀
eager parrot
hoary charm
how does it take 5 years to investigate how a service was built without password hashing lmao
dusky rapids
bruh
last eagle
smhmh
oak lodge
critical oversight
proud tulip
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/09/meta-slapped-with-101-million-fine-for-...
sigh
ocean vigil
and he still has plenty of time to get more unhinged
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1840118070037361072
eager parrot
what a time to be alive
at least the news is having fun with this one, high level entertainment
they would love for him to be elected again so their ratings would shoot up, no wonder they spend like 80% of their airtime covering him and every word he says, and even when they ask Harris any questions, it's about Trump.
it's funny though since he's a narcissist and this is likely pure projection
ocean vigil
you know what they say, every accusation is a confession
trim flicker
That's often the case
dire canopy
kinda funny that like 12 years ago they had differences in like economic directions and now they are just calling each other R word
last eagle
why this whole speech feels like ai-generated
trim flicker
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1840127675769467218?t=J_96Q8LioCofleI2nl_heA&s=19
Kamabla letting transgender alien flies invade the country folks
dudes misses his ex so much
oak lodge
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1840132911993106831?t=EGXz3PDKtCke8l2t37JPOg&s=19
I'd assume Kamala sunbathing is a much more pleasant sight than Trump or Biden sunbathing, and i am homotron 3000
has to do more with the two being like 80
hoary charm
we have the best beach bodies, dont we folks. many people are talking about it
fringe juniper
It was over when was still friends with that child predator
ocean vigil
trim flicker
are they trying to push that lie about shoplifting/retail crime again lol
pale flower
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1840483582433009711
the crowd literally waking up at 0:30 just to clap along omg
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1840483582433009711
the purge if real
blazing depot
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1840483582433009711
It was just a joke, bro. - Trump staffers sanewashing afterwards
fossil basin
biden and trump clearly share a lot of similarities of detoriating health and aging
thorny schooner
THE ROUGH HOUR...
blazing depot
Twitter
For anyone who thought only the US had clowns
That dastardly underground transgender mafia
Here @proud tulip, have a laugh after that game
forest sigil
Didn't lettuce last longer than her time as PM?
blazing depot
Yeah, that was a whole thing
marsh oracle
Shes trying to save the british from developing rose tinted glasses for the tories, you gotta admire that
haughty steppe
https://x.com/PoliticoForYou/status/1840723236499137012
LMAO
blazing depot
Sam, your UK chapter seems to be doing well
haughty steppe
proud tulip
lmaoooo
trim flicker
not the uk transgender mafia
eager parrot
For anyone who thought only the US had clowns
most of the clowns here came from the UK and various other European origins after all
they invented clownry, US just perfected it
trim flicker
First it was the illegal transgender aliens in the US and now the underground mafia
thats crazy
eager parrot
they ran out of their homophobic boogeyman ammunition, so it's onto the new thing after all
a tale as old as propaganda itself, gotta demonize some small subset of the population to rile up everybody else and blame everything on them
can't have authorities and politicians actually provide solutions or answer questions to be held responsible and accountable.
marsh oracle
https://fxtwitter.com/MattWallace888/status/1840107271520694464 any fellow hurricane summoners in the chat today?
blazing depot
lol, that song choice
eager parrot
there's another one coming, a rare october hurricane
forest sigil
there's a dude nearby that filled a aquadam that can hold 30 inches of water around his house. He spent like $9,000 on it and it has successfully kept the 27 inches of water out.
every single other house is basically donezo
eager parrot
this is just the deep state plot to keep construction workers employed
blazing depot
there's a dude nearby that filled a aquadam that can hold 30 inches of water aro...
Smart guy
marsh oracle
This was on page 347 of the biden infrastructure bill
forest sigil
this is what one looks like btw
marsh oracle
"The federal government shall summon a big ass hurricane to hit any red state before the election"
blazing depot
I had to go and double check for parody and of course they're serious, lmao
forest sigil
he said he was "watching the water rise and grilling to kill time"
marsh oracle
Im always amazed that people rebuild there
eager parrot
this is what one looks like btw
that's an impressive aquadam
blazing depot
"The federal government shall summon a big ass hurricane to hit any red state be...
Can't wait for the Hurricane that hits Montana
eager parrot
montana gets polar vortex instead
marsh oracle
Montana is probably more space laser territory
eager parrot
and like atmospheric rivers and lakes
eager parrot
Montana is probably more space laser territory
that's more california and oregon
marsh oracle
Also I like the collective effort of right wing twitter accounts to pretend that a presidential caravan driving through is what those areas need most currently
Cant believe biden isnt personally diving around
forest sigil
it's literally impossible for some areas
because the roads have been swept away
"Joe Biden wont send relief because we voted republican last election"
marsh oracle
To be fair its easy to assume biden would do exactly what trump did
blazing depot
I mean, he can go do what Trump did and throw some paper towels into the water
forest sigil
he can show up dressed like desantis
blazing depot
I don't think Biden would wear a Desantis vest
marsh oracle
I thought that was a gun symbol on his vest for a second
forest sigil
the real pic the conservatives dont want you to see
eager parrot
but you have to admit, for a country where natural disasters like this are practically annual, you'd think municipal, state and federal governments would have a bit more preparation and faster response...
but sadly we never learn
marsh oracle
What is there to prep really
forest sigil
you guys get floods
blazing depot
but you have to admit, for a country where natural disasters like this are pract...
Please, whenever there's 1cm of snow in Texas their whole power grid goes offline and Ted flees the country
forest sigil
you guys get floods
just this year in july in fact!
forest sigil
Please, whenever there's 1cm of snow in Texas their whole power grid goes offlin...
and cruz heads to cancun
blazing depot
Well yeah, that was the implication
eager parrot
Please, whenever there's 1cm of snow in Texas their whole power grid goes offlin...
exactly, these idiots never prepare despite how many times it happens
they just blame somebody else
marsh oracle
Shouldve nuked the hurricane before it made landfall
eager parrot
next they'll blame illegal immigrants chewing on power lines or something
forest sigil
tbf I believe there was a motion to prepare for some cold winters and either the company or cruz turned it down
near jetty
just this year in july in fact!
forest sigil
brady doesnt claim milwaukee
marsh oracle
The current spin seems to be that biden is sleeping on the job and didnt personally stop the hurricane
near jetty
it flooded in milwaukee?
marsh oracle
Oh and thats also harris' fault of course
forest sigil
it flooded in milwaukee?
nah just some northeastern counties
blazing depot
Having privately owned dams is.... definitely a concept of a plan I guess
marsh oracle
Hey its free money cause if it fails you cant pay the damage anyway
eager parrot
everything that can be privately owned, is privately owned in the US one way or another
private military, private prisons, private cities (hi disney), etc.
marsh oracle
eager parrot
Texas for example has almost no public lands
near jetty
real freedom is when you can own a dam
blazing depot
The real question is, are you actually responsible for maintaining a dam if you own it
And liable if it fails
Cause from what I've seen of vital infrastructure failure in the US there seems to be basically zero liability
near jetty
i did not pull myself up by my bootstraps enough to build a dam
forest sigil
This is in TN idk about other states
near jetty
a moral failure frankly
forest sigil
Apparently you have to have a "Dam Permit" to build one
blazing depot
Ah yes, a dam permit
near jetty
not the one that failed but one in my city
girl scouts are allowed to own a high hazard dam
blazing depot
If you maintain it well you get a patch
Or pin or whatever they use for achievements these days
forest sigil
so if the dam breaks, then we can blame the girl scouts for not maintaining it
near jetty
i think this is the dam in question
it was inespected by owner last year and is due to be inspected by the department of natural resources aka andrea next year
isnt that neat
blazing depot
I'll be damned
near jetty
so the dam that failed actually didn't break the water just went around it lol
via erosion
forest sigil
well damn
trim flicker
Wasn't trump talking about how climate change isn't real and if it's real it's good right before the hurricane hit
Once in a lifetime hurricane that'll keep happening every so often 
Maybe it's the transgender aliens with their advanced weather manipulation technology
marsh oracle
Idk about right before but hes definitely said climate change would lead to more beachfront properties lol
Which isnt even how geometry works but you know
trim flicker
Yeah just don't think about what'll happen to the proprieties that were there before
[hbomber aquaman clip]
blazing depot
I see the "limited ground operation" has started
marsh oracle
Apparently the lebanese army withdrew from their southern border so theyre just leaving hezbollah out to dry down there
eager parrot
I see the "limited ground operation" has started
they will really call it anything but war
oak lodge
a lotta shit got bigger names for what they are now lol
blazing depot
they will really call it anything but war
It's not war, it's non-peaceful interactions
trim flicker
Limited military ground operation into a different country
eager parrot
the rate of civilian casualties is really insane
valid magnet
hell yeah the hourly purge
fossil basin
fossil basin
https://fxtwitter.com/politicturk/status/1840638517052846400?t=Z0woe668xW74fNdD5_zt3g&s=19
Turkish religion minister in a fatwa implifies Allah to be guilty for current stagflation, stating that "Allah is the one who brings poverty and prosperity, and ultimately orders upon prices of goods/services"
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Incredible
hoary charm
does allah set reserve bank interest rates too
fossil basin
does allah set reserve bank interest rates too
Current president tried to decrease interest rates for long term stating interest was haram
Only to now also increase the rates to thievery high rates while not seeing any of the economical benefits of an interest rate either
dire canopy
money is more important than allah afterall
valid magnet
https://fxtwitter.com/politicturk/status/1840638517052846400?t=Z0woe668xW74fNdD5...
that's like...one of the worst things you can say as a muslim lmao
especially as a religion minister lmao
fossil basin
that's like...one of the worst things you can say as a muslim lmao
You should see what else they say
blazing depot
that's like...one of the worst things you can say as a muslim lmao
Let's just say people have died for saying much less
valid magnet
yeah i will not be surprised if this doesnt end well over the next days lmao
fossil basin
Not really, it's just a common monday here
fossil basin
Iran is embodiment of empty words, they might be committing imperialistic farings on Syria, but other than that, i do not see them doing anything substantial in terms of currenr diplomatic standings
fossil basin
I just do not believe the constant White House scaremongering
I think it's all "nuke iran" prop
They would have done something when their prime minister got killed by israel, they haven't done much
fossil basin
Except they didn't say anything
They put their "revenge flag" on or whatever that is
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makes sense
marsh oracle
I think it's all "nuke iran" prop
Wat
blazing depot
It's almost as if field trips on foreign soil with fireworks have consequences eventually
marsh oracle
I mean I doubt a potential strike from iran is much of a surprise here
They just lost a big part of their favorite pet hezbollah
fossil basin
I mean I doubt a potential strike from iran is much of a surprise here
Normally not, but at this point they are really doing nothing much in non-symbolic stature against israel
White House constantly make reports of iranian missle attacks with no result
marsh oracle
Is funding 3 terrorist organizations targetting israel not non symbolic enough for you?
fossil basin
Is funding 3 terrorist organizations targetting israel not non symbolic enough f...
Not really, that is not official war starting news
Turkey has done similar yet also are one of the biggest supporters of Israel at same time
It's "we do not like israel" for attaining the religious-conservative voter base yet supplying weapons and material, especially fruits/vegetables, to israel either directly or by cyprus/azerbaijan
Countries can happen to support organizations "trying to undermine a country" while supporting the same country for different reasons
marsh oracle
Or maybe theres a disconnect between companies in a country doing trade with other nations and official foreign policy from that country
fossil basin
Not saying "Iran is a big Israel supporter", more so meaning that politics and diplomacy is quite multifaceted
fossil basin
Or maybe theres a disconnect between companies in a country doing trade with oth...
Not really
marsh oracle
Like fruits and vegetables?
fossil basin
Like fruits and vegetables?
It is an examplary, steel and weapons are also big exports to israel
It's like EU countries supplying Russian gas
marsh oracle
In europe exports to some tiny -stan country shot up after the sanctions against russia cause companies find ways around them
That doesnt mean european governments are secretly supporting russia
fossil basin
That doesnt mean european governments are secretly supporting russia
They aren't in position to support a non-us backed russia of course
But in turkey's case, especially with government officials supporting or having big company activities in Israel, it means it
oak lodge
This is just intel from the US, which may be wrong
like a lot of reasons the US operated during the cold war lol
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They also issued a security alert for US citizens in Israel
near jetty
what about us citizens in the us
oak lodge
Sit tight and buy more popcorn
marsh oracle
Us citizens can watch the vp debate tonight to witness a real life human sized weasel try to weasel their way out of reality
Fun for the whole family
trim flicker
what about us citizens in the us
watch the debate if you're not in an area afflicted by the hurricane i guess
near jetty
snoozefest it's at 8pm my time
ocean vigil
Us citizens can watch the vp debate tonight to witness a real life human sized ...
and they can read the trump play by play
blazing depot
watch the debate if you're not in an area afflicted by the hurricane i guess
The Biden administration sent that Hurricane to prevent red states from witnessing Vance doing the debate of a lifetime
marsh oracle
I kind of want to see pete buttigieg in his jd vance impression
Maybe he can do the obligatory snl skit
blazing depot
I mean, he likely did that impression in a non-comical way
Which is an achievement by itself
near jetty
I don't want to see Pete
vital needle
So we were supposed to hate this guy or smth?
brave pelican
school is doing a watch party thing for this which im tempted to go for free pizza but i do not want to be on campus after hours
livid frigate
So we were supposed to hate this guy or smth?
Stop supporting terrorism
marsh oracle
Took surprisingly long for the nasrallah propaganda posting, youre slacking
vital needle
Stop supporting terrorism
Never
vital needle
Took surprisingly long for the nasrallah propaganda posting, youre slacking
My bad I will try harder
ocean vigil
near jetty
Joe Biden the geopolitical dynamo you are
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Can't believe escalating the conflict would lead to the conflict escalating
fossil basin
I will say this, i was rather wrong about iran not launching any missles, kinda odd timing though
vital needle
Its fine I also fell for the trick with the russian invasion lol
Sometimes intel do be real
marsh oracle
Is it really surprising that iran would do this after israel killed a bunch of higher ups in irans proxy force?
blazing depot
They also killed a bunch of Iranians not too long ago and one of the pagers mutilated their ambassador, so you know
marsh oracle
Oh right, there was that ambassador with the pager
blazing depot
So we were supposed to hate this guy or smth?
That said, several sides can be bad and completely morally wrong at the same time, let's not do the whole yay terrorism cringe, shall we
If only because that's very much against ToS
vital needle
Is it really surprising that iran would do this after israel killed a bunch of h...
No it is very plausible and not as stupid as russia invading ukraine tbf
pale flower
Glad this productive conversation was happening while I was in the bomb shelter 
Never change Discord
near jetty
sorry?
fossil basin
Is it really surprising that iran would do this after israel killed a bunch of h...
Yes due their inactivity prior
You'd not expect them to make such a move for something not in their country if they hadn't done that when israel managed to kill rather powerful officials well within their borders
fossil basin
TW // Sexual Assault, Pedophilia
||https://fxtwitter.com/PopBase/status/1841195140515578191?t=yw8Q3Pl-fVHueqTv3Ge5mg&s=19||
eager parrot
the actual assaults being terrible on their own is one thing, the fact that so many people in music and entertainment industry must have been fully aware of this happening is yet another layer of horrible on top of it all
between diddy, weinstein and epstein ... and all the people connected to them all, it really makes you wonder just how widespread this is in hollywood and US entertainment and political circles.
fossil basin
I mean there are horrible likes of Dr Luke and Johnny Depp
blazing depot
It's less a "specific circles" and more money breeds depravity no matter where
fossil basin
Sexual crimes are notoriously hard to be proven or get punished legally, and often ends up with the legal system failing the victim
blazing depot
Either way, no need to get into the deeper pits of this topic, this channel is bad enough
Diddy is a horrible piece of shit and that's that
(and will hopefully spend the majority of the rest of his life behind bars)
marsh oracle
In other news, jimmy carter turned 100 today
Hes actually gonna make it to the election
brave pelican
or whats left of him
blazing depot
He said his goal was lasting until he could vote via mail
fossil basin
I am the one of the rare ones that hates jimmy carter
blazing depot
He's in pallative care, so you know
marsh oracle
A vote's a vote
blazing depot
I am the one of the rare ones that hates jimmy carter
Go hate someone who deserves it like Dick Cheney or something
fossil basin
I am the one of the rare ones that hates jimmy carter
Self admittedly caused neoconservative coup of 1981 Turkey
eager parrot
Iran situation is what it is today because of Carter
it's fitting that the potential start of another global war is on his 100th birthday
fossil basin
Current situation of Turkey is also partly caused by him
Do not like Americans pretending he is a wholesome charity guy
marsh oracle
The hostage crisis?
eager parrot
he was the US president during Iran revolution and Turkey's coup
fossil basin
The hostage crisis?
No the enshittification of thd country
eager parrot
and of course the hostage crisis
blazing depot
Do not like Americans pretending he is a wholesome charity guy
No president anywhere fits that description
fossil basin
No president anywhere fits that description
Yeah
blazing depot
Pretending situations 40+ years later are solely his fault is also incredibly disingenuous
marsh oracle
Americans appetite for another little military side quest in another nation probably wasnt all that high after vietnam
fossil basin
Not solely but partly
And he gets quite forgotten in this situation
Taking accountability is an important thing i believe
fossil basin
Well what did he do
Committed the coup of 81 due a somewhat left leaning government of Ecevit in power
He is reported to celebrate the news of the coup
blazing depot
The word you're looking for is "supported"
marsh oracle
When was the Coup? Cause the presidency changed in january of 81
eager parrot
it's funny, the hostage crisis literally ended the day reagan came to power
Jan 20th 1981
forest sigil
I wonder why
fossil basin
Anecdotes of cia head at time stating "our boys did it" that he now denies, it is odd
forest sigil
there's always been that 1980 october surprise theory
fossil basin
Either US candidate or president would have supported the coup tbf
Not especially Carter
Cypriot/Cyprus operations/invasions of mid 70s also made Ecevit a bit of target on that regard
marsh oracle
Speaking of october surprises, that port worker strike seems kinda wild
eager parrot
there's always been that 1980 october surprise theory
yep, wouldn't be too crazy, it was the same administration that did the iran contra deal/affair too
blazing depot
Either US candidate or president would have supported the coup tbf
To be fair, Turkey wasn't exactly stable to begin with and calling the socialists in power at the time a legitimate government is a stretch
forest sigil
And he gets quite forgotten in this situation
people probably dont bring it up or forget because off all the shit that has come after it. Also probably cause Carter has done a lot of philanthropy/charity for building homes for people post-presidency.
fossil basin
To be fair, Turkey wasn't exactly stable to begin with and calling the socialist...
I am saying somewhat left-leaning, not socialists
marsh oracle
Apparently the company offered a 50% wage increase and the union said no lol
blazing depot
I am saying somewhat left-leaning, not socialists
Changes nothing
fossil basin
Changes nothing
It's just that all others were in the neoliberal or neoconservative scene going on in comparison
Not necessarily because Ecevit was a leader that needed to be glorified in any means
More because the others after him were shit
Turkish political scene is never a stable one
Not special to that specific era
eager parrot
well this era is an anomaly in its overall history after all, the ataturk to now era that is
forest sigil
this is all I got on the situation https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/10/ayatollah-khomeini-jimmy-carter-administration-iran-revolution
just realized you guys cant read it
eager parrot
guess the US wanted Iran to be the way it is
forest sigil
guess the US wanted Iran to be the way it is
is/was before revolution, but seems like it depends on the truth of the report. Apparently supporters of Khomeini deny it, but who knows.
eager parrot
maybe we can just blame the French again, they were the ones who housed Khomeini for 15 years
forest sigil
sounds fair
vital needle
Do not like Americans pretending he is a wholesome charity guy
Every american president is a war criminal
No exception
eager parrot
Trump is a criminal, not sure he started any wars though.
also a bit of self awareness would never hurt, whoever is running the @Israel account...
livid frigate
also a bit of self awareness would never hurt, whoever is running the @Israel ac...
Israel only does precision attacks that result in the fewest casualties possible
eager parrot
They certainly are capable of doing that, as they did to that one Hamas political leader in Tehran
only like 2-3 people died in that
They have access to all the latest and greatest precision striking arsenal that the US has, pinpoint assassinations from the heavens is definitely something that they can and have done before.
vital needle
https://fixupx.com/Israel/status/1841165266832490925
livid frigate
only like 2-3 people died in that
To borrow from schmali. It’s a war what do you expect
blazing depot
To borrow from schmali. It’s a war what do you expect
Excuse you, it's just a warlike operation
From what I've seen though the Iranian attacks were largely directed at military/actually legitimate targets (to be taken with the usual grain of salt towards definitely biased witness accounts)
marsh oracle
Helps when your opponent doesnt put their military bases in the cities
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The Mossad HQ they targeted is actually in Tel Aviv
blazing depot
Helps when your opponent doesnt put their military bases in the cities
Everything is a legitimate target if you just believe hard enough there's a secret base under everything from kindergardens to hospitals
marsh oracle
Ya I mean
They targetted a civilian area in beirut and magically the main hezbollah guy died
livid frigate
Everything is a legitimate target if you just believe hard enough there's a secr...
And buy into israeli propaganda
blazing depot
They targetted a civilian area in beirut and magically the main hezbollah guy di...
That's a fancy way of saying "They targeted a whole city block and hoped there would be a bunker below one of the buildings"
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Good thing no one else died in Lebanon
livid frigate
That's a fancy way of saying "They targeted a whole city block and hoped there w...
That’s been Israel’s whole MO
marsh oracle
Why would you think they simply hoped when like 3 days earlier they exploded a bunch of military equipment that they sold to hezbollah, they clearly have some intelligence people working there
livid frigate
Pagers are not strictly military equipment
marsh oracle
Okay pagers used as military equipment
livid frigate
Alright man
marsh oracle
livid frigate
Tons of people use pagers and were killed or injured
marsh oracle
Plenty of practices to criticize the idf for. Using palestinian civilians to scout out possibly trapped tunnels? Yikes, very bad, very illegal
blazing depot
Why would you think they simply hoped when like 3 days earlier they exploded a b...
If they knew they would've done one of those precision strikes people say they're apparently capable of instead of leveling 1/4 of the city
livid frigate
The pagers is also a thing to criticize Israel for
blazing depot
The pager thing is just terrorism
marsh oracle
But at least acknowledge that hamas and hezbollah themselves do their best to maximize civilian casualties on their side
blazing depot
And I won't call it anything else.
livid frigate
lol
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They knew, Mossad is pretty competent in finding stuff like that
The thing is just that they deliberately choose to cause the most harm
that's been what they do
marsh oracle
Nah I think they could do a whole lot more if they really wanted to
Part of their government would definitely like them to
blazing depot
Nah I think they could do a whole lot more if they really wanted to
I mean, short us just throwing a nuke at Gaza or Beirut...
not that there is anything left to nuke in Gaza
marsh oracle
Hey now, Israel never publicly said they have nukes
marsh oracle
They all just wink whenever they deny having one, very strange
blazing depot
They never said they did!
livid frigate
I love Israel
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To me the whole human shield justification is weird
Even if there were hamas bases and tunnels under all those hospitals and schools (which afaik they have never provided any evidence of existing), the whole point is that you don't blow it up and kill all the civilians
livid frigate
To me the whole human shield justification is weird
Even if there were hamas bas...
Didn’t you see the 3D render?
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Oh yeah my bad
vital needle
It's standard procedure that in any hostage situation you shoot the hostage first to get rid of the nuisance
Everyone knows that
livid frigate
Here comes the tankie
marsh oracle
In international law killing civilians isnt illegal by default (and no country would ever agree to that principle). Countries are supposed to weigh their military objectives (and potential alternative methods of achieving) against potential damage to civilian infrastructure or civilian casualties. Killing the leader of hezbollah inside of a bunker he seemingly never leaves and is likely to be extremely tightly guarded, so there likely isnt another way of getting at him, probably ranks pretty highly on the list of military objectives. Now youre still supposed to try and avoid civilian casualties by warning them, but warning the civilians will also warn your target. Im sure israel has missed on that assessment of proportionality plenty of times, but the talk around this conflict never even reaches that stage usually.
vital needle
Back in the day when gangs would rob trains in the wild west the crew would lock every wagon, derail the train and set fire to the whole thing in order to ensure no criminal would escape
vital needle
In international law killing civilians isnt illegal by default (and no country w...
Oh just an oopsie
Guys they misread the situation
Damn
Poor beans
The idf is literally neurodivergent and a minor
blazing depot
In international law killing civilians isnt illegal by default
oop
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In international law killing civilians isnt illegal by default (and no country w...
Yeah they killed a couple important Hezbollah figures (I think they named 2 or 3?) while also killing over 1k people and injuring over 6k
Somehow they miss the proportionality assessment every time
livid frigate
Yeah they killed a couple important Hezbollah figures (I think they named 2 or 3...
To borrow a quote “one is a tragedy. A million is a statistic”
marsh oracle
If you did make every civilian death illegal, warfare would become either impossible or international law meaningless as no country would adhere to it
And international law/law of armed conflict is a very limited set of rules that not even every country has agreed to
livid frigate
Don’t worry guys. Israel hasn’t committed war crimes
Just errors in proportionality
blazing depot
If you did make every civilian death illegal, warfare would become either imposs...
Bombing schools and hospitals very much is a war crime though by international law.
That's not even debatable, just a fact
marsh oracle
Well not if theyre used as military infrastructure
trim flicker
Where did law get into the conversation anyway
I'm against it morally, I don't care if technically under the 37th precept of the international book of john lawman it's legal to kill civilians 🤓
shadow elbow
john lawman is a professional
marsh oracle
Ya look you can think this whole International law thing is very stupid and I wouldnt even disagree but then hamas shooting missiles at israel weekly without the capability to even really target something is just as bad
blazing depot
Well not if theyre used as military infrastructure
That would only be a fitting description for a military hospital, not for people hiding within or below it.
Using human shields is also a war crime for that matter, but one war crime doesn't cancel out the other
trim flicker
Ya look you can think this whole International law thing is very stupid and I wo...
Oh it's really bad
Thankfully Israel has the iron dome that stops like 99% of those handmade shitty ass missiles
marsh oracle
Yep, and I know its hard for people like henry to follow entire conversations, but I did explicitly mention a war crime by the idf up there
half heath
what's people like Henry mean 
marsh oracle
Oh you know
shadow elbow
shinee fans
marsh oracle
People named Henry
near jetty
yeah whats that mean
livid frigate
Yep, and I know its hard for people like henry to follow entire conversations, b...
Do you condemn Hamas?
vital needle
what's people like Henry mean <:ChoerryNervous:772939960818466826>
Genocide dislikers
The absolute worst type of scum
shadow elbow
ivermectin ad lol
trim flicker
so eloquently put
last eagle
coming in clutch
marsh oracle
Man vance somehow manages to be even weaselier than expected
Youre supposed to complain about the rules after the debate, rookie mistake
blazing depot
How dare they """"fact check""""
At least Vance can formulate full sentences unlike his running mate
That's how low the bar is 
brave pelican
walz just sold
blazing depot
This debate just goes to show that you can actually have a civil debate still and it's really just Trump who is the issue there
forest sigil
why republicans love guns and dont want to do anything about them
marsh oracle
The opening question being about a potential nuclear first strike by israel on iran is peak american politics btw
Manufacturing, abortion, the second amendment? Snoozefest, how do you feel about killing millions?
near jetty
oak lodge
-118 years old is a big one. Wow, what a champ amirite?
oak lodge
why republicans love guns and dont want to do anything about them
think of it like cigarettes to smoking. What's the next alternative to replace it and why is it so protected by a giant, immovable lobby that has been rich off of it since forever?
hoary charm
kinda missing the whole 2nd amendment thing that gets tossed around in gun control discussions
tobacco companies just pivot to vaping, there isnt an alternative when it comes to gun control
marsh oracle
Wheres the paintball lobby
oak lodge
down the road from the cs:go lobby (internet cafe)
vital needle
I really like the second ammendment as one of my dreams in life is to make a musket and I believe doing so would be illegal in brazil
So yeah
oak lodge
tobacco companies just pivot to vaping, there isnt an alternative when it comes ...
I'm not going to say what your saying is wrong because it certainly is true. But that tree has one hell of a lot of consequence behind it if you ever so much as bring an axe near it.
vital needle
I would also like to have a mosin nagant
oak lodge
I really like the second ammendment as one of my dreams in life is to make a mus...
If I'm not mistaken, that is legal. At all ages as long as it's private use. It's not cased ammunition.
Black powder guns are classified as antiques, they don't meet the manufacturing requirements, nor justice unless of course you do harm with them. Anyone can buy antiques might I add.
vital needle
Well yeah its also not like the police would come to my house if i made it and just ledt it there
If it was actually ilegal
But thanks god I will check it with my lawyer friends you opened a door for me
oak lodge
oh, so you intend on doing a crime like a crimenal? Hmmm police, I think we got one.
oak lodge
But thanks god I will check it with my lawyer friends you opened a door for me
oh I meant that for america lol
you said you'd like to live that out as a dream of yours.
vital needle
The law is ambiguous on whether carrying swords is legal or not but I do anyway because im white
Like, what is the police gonna do
Stop a white dude?
LMAO
oak lodge
"Hold it, Link from the land of Hyrule. Where the fuck are you going with that broadsword?"
vital needle
you said you'd like to live that out as a dream of yours.
Yeah for real ever since I played age of empires 3 as a kid I was fascinated by flintlocks. I quite enjoy napoleonic warfare too
And eventually I noticed that a lot of medieval fantasy is often early modern fantasy and it only gets better with the addition of guns and cannons
Truly the 1600s were peak humanity
Except the uh
Slavery and genocide
But otherwise
oak lodge
vital needle
Great times
oak lodge
fantastical
fringe juniper
But can somewhat ethnically ambiguous individuals carry swords? (asking for a friend)
vital needle
Idk depends on your excuse i guess
I sell them and customize them so I tell the truth if asked
fringe juniper
I'll buy one that says "mf stole my government cheese"
blazing depot
I'll buy one that says "mf stole my government cheese"
Are you from Wisconsin or something
I hear they take cheese very seriously
fringe juniper
You don't know about the Native American cheese. Very serious here
blazing depot
Spirit voyage cheese?
fringe juniper
We have to sign paperwork agreeing not to sell it
blazing depot
So is that signing away your right to not bear cheese?
fringe juniper
So is that signing away your right to not bear cheese?
It's food we get from the government (provided low enough income.) The blocks of cheese are very popular on the reservations which leads to people selling / stealing it.
blazing depot
Hadn't thought the cheesoconomy went that deep, I guess it makes sense in a way. What do you do with cheese thieves?
oak lodge
put a cup of water on their heads and make them wallsit in a corner with their arms forward like a zombie
blazing depot
That edit is rather different
oak lodge
I sometimes type how a word sounds in an accent I am doing in my head instead of phonetically correct
blazing depot
Do you have an accent?
oak lodge
No I drive a Nissan, not a Hyundai
blazing depot
oak lodge
I find that question rhetorical, friend
fringe juniper
Hadn't thought the cheesoconomy went that deep, I guess it makes sense in a way....
Ngl people get in fist fights or ||knife fights||
blazing depot
Sounds tough out there. At least they'll be fine if they ever happen to end up in London
fringe juniper
Knives, mediocre Healthcare, funni accents.... mayhaps were are bri'ish 
valid magnet
Not the fucking Hoyoverse bruh
fringe juniper
Borderline Hoyoverse passing 
dire canopy
just casually watching friends on the plane with some balistic missiles in the air next to you
dreamy ledge
But can somewhat ethnically ambiguous individuals carry swords? (asking for a fr...
this happened a few years ago:
https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/darrien-hunt-shot-by-police-while-cosplaying/
fossil basin
radiant linden
The idf is literally neurodivergent and a minor
so true
thorny schooner
https://fxtwitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1823120115329536314?t=aW3DIZUecLUcfc...
banger
fossil basin
We need someone to replace Calathes
ocean vigil
have to use other channels to reach him
blazing depot
Well Pat Bev fucking lied when having said "if a bomb goes out, i'm out."
Missiles aren't bombs, silly
fossil basin
https://fxtwitter.com/sohretcankolsuz/status/1840836154976841746?t=w_XDJDcL7yN41r_zR2cjtg&s=19
Main opposition party in Turkey (if we can call it that efficiently, not a lot of parties showcasing de-facto opposition to government positions), promises a party-related generative ai chat bot by their youth organizations, promising that you could "get answers to each political question"
I was wrong, i apologise to the communist newjeans bunny acc in this server, using generative ai/chatbots to ask genuine political stuff seems rather more common than i thought, albeit still unreasonable
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I mean collarbone was clearly just posting that as a meme, he's a history major don't think he takes advice from chat gpt on how to interpret political events
Altho I'm sure there's people who do that
fossil basin
I mean collarbone was clearly just posting that as a meme, he's a history major ...
I am just surprised that there is a genuine attempt in this context to make this app
I mean the party-related app
trim flicker
It's a weird choice for sure
vital needle
oak lodge
lol
trim flicker
LOL
fossil basin
blazing depot
Are they really secret though
radiant linden
thumbs in the boobnail
fringe juniper
Wise words from a wise 🐛
fossil basin
ocean vigil
someone does not know who trey is and what he does
fossil basin
https://fxtwitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1841259324309443047?t=jlaHejlJI2U8CGJFrt73Rg&s=19
Apparently anyone liking this post is sent an automated tweet like this
fringe juniper
The Deep caused the death of his octopus girlfriend while reckless driving. Truly a modern day Ted Kennedy.
hoary charm
https://fixupx.com/jtberry97/status/1841208541400744146 iconic moments in history
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Damn
fossil basin
fossil basin
https://fixupx.com/jtberry97/status/1841208541400744146 iconic moments in histor...
And he has never seen a Clippers finals series
eager parrot
https://fxtwitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1841467908003623079?t=BLbwl1_gmiHj7...
US never letting go of old habits of bombing places even 80 years later.
last eagle
bad ping, my bad
dusky rapids
if anyone's interested in sg politics
probably our most high profile case involving a minister ever
blazing depot
Just a casual bit of corruption
"The real crime is getting caught." - China, probably
dusky rapids
yeah
but it just shows how clean our system is, that this is the first time ever someone's been convicted under this law
at least that's the spin on this news
but in fairness to china, xi jinping's anti-corruption campaign in his early days was quite well-publicised
blazing depot
but in fairness to china, xi jinping's anti-corruption campaign in his early day...
I mean yeah, but at some point it was just people who got vanished
Couldn't find a scalpel... in an ER.
clear tide
lmaooo
haughty steppe
man i need one with the saw
i also have a leatherman multitool but the scissors are so dull
blazing depot
If you can't even do emergency surgery with it you clearly got ripped off
keen nest
lol so like
this memory card I got my friend noticed had french on the box
and I was like huh you're right
so I go google if they're a french brand or something cause I wouldn't have known
literally the first result was this subreddit and them talking about avoiding those cards because they were made in china
I can't believe this is actually a subreddit 
jesus fuck
you can just straight up smell the patriotism from some of the threads
I understand the context, and like why some would have this idea but idk funny to create a subreddit for it
brave pelican
r/avoidchineseproducts when they see r/promotechineseproducts
clear tide
lmao am reading a dutch article mentioning that prime are going to increase the amount of ads they show...
haughty steppe
https://www.reddit.com/r/avoidchineseproducts/
i love racism
charred fulcrum
r/avoidchineseproducts when they see r/promotechineseproducts
wait r/promotechineseproducts is real?
aw nope
brave pelican
wait r/promotechineseproducts is real?
yes check r/LOONA
trim flicker
.shocked moment
fringe juniper
yes check r/LOONA
r/loona m0ds 
fringe juniper
Fr
blazing depot
Reddit is stinky for anything opinion based and fine whenever you need a solution for "How tf do I [enter problem here]"
livid frigate
Reddit is stinky for anything opinion based and fine whenever you need a solutio...
Wrong
blazing depot
Ok, Donald
trim flicker
reddit good for tech issues
near jetty
havent been on reddit since the api thing last year and i must say my life is much better
nova holly
i append reddit to pretty much every google search i do
way better experience
google sucks
do people still say "surfing" the web?
trim flicker
i dont use reddit except to diagnose tech stuff
fossil basin
do people still say "surfing" the web?
They would not say water poloing the net
haughty steppe
I only look at the talesfromDF subreddit
shadow elbow
I only look at the pizza subreddit
eager parrot
lmao am reading a dutch article mentioning that prime are going to increase the ...
stress testing subscription paying consumers to see how much of the ad bullshit they are willing to tolerate is really something
blazing depot
Companies trying to get away with worse and worse business practices and customers eating that shit up as per usual.
They're gonna do the 2 steps forward 1 step back tactic too if the backlash is too severe
Which will still be more ads, but not quite as much so it's fine, right?
eager parrot
it's just funny that less than 20 years after the first few large streaming services began with the promise of low monthly subscriptions, wide access to content on demand and no ads ...
blazing depot
To be brutally honest, we would be better off with a Netflix monopoly
eager parrot
we've devolved back to the same fractured localized content geolocks and platform/service variety that cable was known for
and now we're getting ads and paying for it too
blazing depot
Like, sometimes the market being consolidated is a good thing
eager parrot
and what we're actually worse off for now is that physical releases are basically on their way out more or less
marsh oracle
Nah
vital needle
Netflix would eventually do the same though
eager parrot
so you can't even buy content and watch it offline unless you pirate
marsh oracle
Netflix was running at a loss back then too
vital needle
Companies cant afford to not grow
marsh oracle
They wouldve ramped up pricing anyway
Its not even about not growing
They lost money every year
trim flicker
That's the strat of all these companies yep
Start off operating at a loss selling a product that's too good to be true (because it is) and then panic years later on how to make money out of it
marsh oracle
Video streaming is expensive as fuck
blazing depot
Netflix was running at a loss back then too
Point is, obviously Netflix would've raised prices, but that would still be less than the 10 different services we pay for now at the same time while getting a shit product
trim flicker
I think they'd just end up being exactly like spotify actually
marsh oracle
Like even youtube still lost money last year iirc
trim flicker
Make everything worse anyway
eager parrot
you gotta draw the line somewhere, you can't go subscribing to a new service every time some studio wants their own platform for their own content
it's getting worse than cable
vital needle
We should have a state owned monopoly on streaming services that would only stream tarkovsky and shows that promote positive depictions of the proletariat
blazing depot
We should have a state owned monopoly on streaming services that would only str...
Come on man, make your bait less obvious, lmao
eager parrot
the idea of a regulated streaming service that at least consolidates all these fractured platforms under one subscription service doesn't sound so bad
some platforms try that, like Prime has those subscriptions within subscription system
marsh oracle
Yes it does
eager parrot
same for Apple TV
but it adds up and gets way more expensive than full access cable ever was
trim flicker
And it's made on a very tricky way where you can subscribe to them accidentally very easily
eager parrot
like if you want to just watch something from paramount+, that's what, 11-17 dollars for a month of subscribing to that
blazing depot
Basically the issue is that yes, monopoly is bad, but too much fracturing of the market is also bad
eager parrot
they count on that
blazing depot
And in the current state it's actually worse
eager parrot
most subscriptions services count on at least getting an extra month out of you for forgetting
like I accidentally ended up renewing Apple Arcade this month
hoary charm
we're back in the mid 00s being extorted for channels we dont need or care about 😔
eager parrot
because I got baited into the trial
eager parrot
we're back in the mid 00s being extorted for channels we dont need or care about...
like it hasn't even been 20 years since netflix streaming launched
and we're back to square one, possibly a worse square in fact
eager parrot
that happened with me and dropbox
vital needle
Curiosity stream
hoary charm
me with duolingo
vital needle
I dont eve remember
blazing depot
I still have a Google additional cloud storage sub that I forget to cancel every month
Other than that I think I'm relatively clean on unused subs atm
vital needle
I found out that my mother was paying for email in 2022
Like, the brazilian version of aol mail
blazing depot
what... lol
vital needle
Don probably knows IG
eager parrot
I found out my father was paying a monthly donation to adblock+ he had no idea about
it was like 300+ dollars of it by the time I caught it
vital needle
Yeah, she did for almost a decade
marsh oracle
Theres people still paying money for a bank account
trim flicker
That's insane
eager parrot
bank account fees are unfortunately very prevalent
vital needle
I had to force her to switch to gmail and she got angry at me
trim flicker
lmao
eager parrot
it's very difficult to switch emails when it has been tied to everything
especially once the pineal gland has calcified and you've settled into your routines, change is very difficult
blazing depot
Theres people still paying money for a bank account
It's actually not that easy finding free bank accounts in Germany with a bank that at least provides the most basic on site service
hoary charm
ya i just use a custom domain so its easy to switch
went from gsuite to proton a while ago
eager parrot
I had a ...... subscription cleanse during covid 2020-2022
vital needle
especially once the pineal gland has calcified and you've settled into your rout...
Yeah but she didnt remember her password to the email and it couldnt be recovered because all of their servers are dead except for the part that processes payment
eager parrot
canceled nearly everything
vital needle
And somehow she wanted me to fix it
eager parrot
just so I could track what I was getting charged and restart them later if I had real need for them
marsh oracle
It's actually not that easy finding free bank accounts in Germany with a bank th...
Commerzbank does it as long as you have like 500€ coming In monthly, its really not that hard
vital needle
Yeah but she didnt remember her password to the email and it couldnt be recovere...
I meant to reply to the message above that one of course
eager parrot
Yeah but she didnt remember her password to the email and it couldnt be recovere...
so she wasn't even getting access to her emails? what lol
vital needle
Yeah because she changed phones
eager parrot
I'm glad you were able to help her though
but I imagine it was trouble switching over all her accounts that were linked to that email
since most of them would require access to said email to switch lol
we really tie too many things to personal emails and phone numbers ...
vital needle
I have one email for stupid random bullshit and a real.email
Fittingly, the one used for random bullshit is hotmail
eager parrot
I have chainlinked three different emails together in case one gets lost, the recovery would depend on the other and there's forwarding between them lol
on different services/platforms too
but if any of them get compromised, I'm probably fucked
hoary charm
been thinking about getting a yubikey
hoary charm
lol fuck
eager parrot
hahaha
blazing depot
What even is that
hoary charm
hardware 2fa
eager parrot
it's like a physical secondary authentication/2FA
blazing depot
I see
hoary charm
2fa usually goes through your phone number which makes your number/sim the central point of failure
eager parrot
the way RSA generators for bank accounts worked like two decades ago for anybody that may have experienced that.
SecurID or something
blazing depot
2fa usually goes through your phone number which makes your number/sim the centr...
I had to switch mine last time I got a new contract and dear god it's so much of a hassle
Changing every single 2fa is a nightmare
eager parrot
it's such a pain to change personal phone numbers or emails because of just how much everything is tied to it
and 2FA without those special long keys is also difficult to just switch
hoary charm
i almost lost all mine a while ago when i reset my phone, as i forgot the password to the backup that authy saves
so i had to restore my phone backup, disable the password, re-enable multiple devices
hoary charm
yeah i wanted to swap to something else but its seemingly a nightmare now so i just havent bothered
blazing depot
I still don't have access to my Twitch account for that matter cause Twitch is the absolute worst with recovery, lmao
hoary charm
octo or something i think is what people recommend?
blazing depot
But I don't really care about Twitch, so whatever
eager parrot
authy was good for so long .... why did they have to get worse 😦
blazing depot
authy was good for so long .... why did they have to get worse 😦
💰
eager parrot
also a lot of banks just outright refuse to allow anything but phone number/SMS as 2FA
hoary charm
octo or something i think is what people recommend?
ah ente is the one
looked nice and all oss
dont really wanna couple my 2fa with my pw manager either
eager parrot
I like to keep my password manager offline, as inconvenient as it becomes sometimes
so I just use keepass and its derivatives
I know the online ones are pretty reliable and have all kinds of fancy encryption but I just .... I just can't
blazing depot
I feel like tying your 2fa to your pw manager kinda defeats its purpose
hoary charm
yeah pretty much
toxic spoke
I tried to switch my 2fa to another competitor and their app/extension just didn't work so that wasn't cool
I didn't try ente
hoary charm
i have 41 accounts in my authy rn
manually switching everything over would take forever
so cbf
young saffron
https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/10/microsofts-new-copilot-vision-ai-experiment-c...
Microsoft stop making useless features challenge: impossible
last eagle
good thing I disabled the auto-update on my windows 10
blazing depot
These are opt-in at least, as in not on by default
young saffron
Thank god
last eagle
oh good