But a min later he ints again
#League of Legends
wild isle
bins ult have done so much all game
tiny kindle
they deserve this loss
zenith cairn
theyre panicing
tiny kindle
they choked so hard
fresh fjord
fuck sake man
lavish barn
Come on g2
There's no reason to take that
Wait for rabadons
Okay but
1.7k gold dif is on support
The rest is on bin
Gold dif is kinda fake
It's more a 2k gold lead than anything
lavish barn
Caps rabadons and bb tanks
tiny kindle
the problem is this ezreal
lavish barn
They just need to calm
north island
WHAT
tiny kindle
FUCK
zenith cairn
man
north island
BB PAUSE
wild isle
???
fresh fjord
omg elk
north island
???
tiny kindle
the problem is this ezreal
i been saying
lavish barn
If
north island
That team fight was so good, but the re engage into the ezreal, giving him 2 more kills
Whyyy
north island
LMAO
wild isle
so anxious man
north island
oh, no damage ??
lavish barn
interesting
wild isle
elk has to be so much more powerfull and snowball from here out
tiny kindle
I just want to bedge man
zenith cairn
same
wild isle
am balding
wild isle
LOL
zenith cairn
anticlimactic
north island
thats rigged
wild isle
both adc 6/2
fresh fjord
what was the bug
north island
Baron for blg
fresh fjord
I havent got audio
north island
Its gg
north island
what was the bug
no bug it seems like
north island
but something kalista something rumble zhonyas something
wild isle
wow baron gone
zenith cairn
this is looking grim
torpid chasm
there's a bug
zenith cairn
wtf
wild isle
am so mad
fresh fjord
sadge
tiny kindle
ggs
zenith cairn
yeah they didnt deserve it after that baron throw
fresh fjord
sad to see them choke
tiny kindle
this team is so cooked man
north island
how
tiny kindle
what a disappointment
wild isle
this was so anti-climatic
lavish barn
Bruh
lavish barn
The pause
tiny kindle
last time we'll see this g2 roster together most definitely
2 years in a row no top 8
north island
Idk much about hans
zenith cairn
they were doing fine until that baron rush
north island
But miky is always just
tiny kindle
miky is like hyli, he's coinflip
but he's necessary
hans just feels like such a nonfactor
in all these games
wild isle
i remember miky was crazy good last year or year before that
north island
But how did that bug not get flagged by officials
tiny kindle
it wasn't a bug
north island
yeah rip
tiny kindle
i don't really think miky was the problem
sure he ints sometimes but he also makes their big plays
lavish barn
Hownstly
north island
Well, maybe not in map 3
tiny kindle
it comes with it
lavish barn
It's just been mad unlucky
wild isle
game 3 was def not on miky
lavish barn
The baron call was bad
wild isle
think it is more some leadership decision making during game. like the baron call
zenith cairn
worse than bad
lavish barn
But it was still winnable
zenith cairn
it threw the game
north island
that baron was a whole choke and a half
north island
then the team fight chasing a fed ezreal even tho we won it
wild isle
whoever is making calls needs to be replaced
north island
And the flank at the end
lavish barn
The longer this game goes the better it is for g2
north island
whoever is making calls needs to be replaced
BB is their caller iirc
wild isle
ok out with him eventhough he is crazy good
tiny kindle
it's not that simple lol
lavish barn
nah we can't drop bb
north island
Or atleast the team captain, which implies to me he is the caller
tiny kindle
they just lost it in the heat of the moment
lavish barn
There's literally no top laner better than him rn in eu
It's literally BB
Massive gap
Everyone else
tiny kindle
i think if there's anyone i want gone, hans is the first one
wild isle
buy bwipo back to eu
tiny kindle
I just feel like he has no presence in any of the games
whether they're ahead or behind
lavish barn
I can't see any logical upgrades for g2 tbh
man this game was winnable
It was right there
wild isle
they just need to be way more consistent
lavish barn
How do I sleep now....
lavish barn
And we go straight into
north island
If its not G2 going to Paris
wild isle
dont care for lcs games either
quiet stream
elk goated
north island
Meanwhile G2 getting slaugthered
lavish barn
If g2 made it they would've made a run I feel
wild isle
dont forget lcs had to beat png, psg and gam then themselfs for worlds slot. so free
lavish barn
They would've the momentum
north island
dont forget lcs had to beat png, psg and gam then themselfs for worlds slot. so ...
its so stoopid
north island
I like the reddit post about a team of monkeys getting to play offs because of the draws
north island
quiet stream
go flyquest tho
lavish barn
I like the reddit post about a team of monkeys getting to play offs because of t...
Actl
lavish barn
Bad play after the lost teamfight
lavish barn
i cant stand APA
I cant stand umti
After the levi flame
Like bros u were omega last in lck 😭😭😭😭
quiet stream
he learned that from apa
north island
this is bs
lavish barn
The worst part was the hope
It wouldn't have felt as bad if we just got 2-0ed ended
Game 2 smashing
Game 3 was actually good
Just crucial plays...
The bb tp..... if he didn't tp I think g2 would've won like fr
The longer it goes the tankier bb becomes
north island
Would they?
north island
They had baron and base was open
lavish barn
They have ryze
The wave clear machine
Drop Baron clear waves
Play for sides
1 pick into elder
Even with baron blg can't just walk into g2 cause of caps
He would machine gun them through the waves
lavish barn
man
I'm empty
2 years out of grps in worlds
This year they looked good too when they were inting...
Their peak was defo challenger level but too much panic and misplays
Idk if we roll it back again I hope they do
I csnt see anyone that would be a defo upgrade on the roster
fresh fjord
would need to be an import if anything
or a change in coaching structure or something
north island
or a change in coaching structure or something
maybe, yeah
Doing certain drafts again and again that didnt work out well, idk about that
Or giving Bin his best champ on the first Map
lavish barn
First draft was troll
100%
Tbh
The only way g2 improves
Is they uproot rn
And move to lck and lpl
Cause every single team in eu is ass
And can't give them any good practice
fnatic are fight merchants , mad are just piss
I swear bds would've been better at worlds
At least their plays would work
Welps back to cs for me ig
misty bolt
Is they uproot rn
well with the stupid franchising they did good luck
lavish barn
It's so cooked for g2
tiny kindle
let's go fly
fresh fjord
i love how this chats died 
wild isle
do be like that
fresh fjord
putting all my eggs in the t1 basket and 1 in the geng basket for chovy
wild isle
`voting for HLE they fun and chaeyoung
indigo moat
lets get a good quarterfinals draw please
fresh fjord
did APA lose?
indigo moat
yeah flyquest stomped them in game 3
indigo moat
draw for quarterfinals coming up
fresh fjord
cool will tune back in
indigo moat
GenG or LNG might get BLG in quarters lmao
fresh fjord
idk what i want for draws actually
wild isle
here we go
fresh fjord
t1 run it back
indigo moat
T1 on GENG side of the bracket
fresh fjord
T1 on GENG side of the bracket
yeah sadge
wild isle
who dis flyquest guy the coach? 
indigo moat
papasmithy
wild isle
xsmithy?
indigo moat
i think he's the president of flyquest
fresh fjord
used to be a caster lake
wild isle
oh okay
indigo moat
yeah he used to be on the LCK english broadcast
fresh fjord
now hes a coach/staff for fq
indigo moat
used to be 100T manager
wild isle
saying flyquest best in the west
fresh fjord
G2s issue is they dont have solid enough competition to improve
i genuinely belive it
if g2 regularly scrimmed/played the likes of blg wbg lng or t1 geng hle theyd be so much better
its sad really
the region needs to improve for g2 to improve
north island
T1 and GenG in the same bracket...
also can we just switch TES for HLE for a full LPL vs LCK (+NA somehow) bracket?
tiny kindle
The draws are not bad
Lng wbg is a stinker though
Would've been nicer if t1 and geng were on opposite sides but not the worst
lavish barn
its sad really
i agree too
their peaks are easily the level of top lpl lck teams
esp with their crazy picks
and them alw ready to do non meta stuff
but they alw loose in the consistency departments
and decision making
when they're calm they make good decisions
best marco in the west 100% and better than dk wbg for sure
map play and all that esp theyve improved alot
but they're alw not under pressure to do how ass eu as a region is rn
if g2 can win 3 games behind 4k gold everytime
its a testiment to how shit the region more than g2 being good or anything
iron orbit
How the fuck did flyquest make it to the quarter's lol
iron orbit
Oh for sure they're getting thanos snapped by geng
tiny kindle
Fly are a decent team
Think they're on the same level as g2 only cause g2 are super inconsistent
They're definitely much better than tl
shrewd steppe
annual geng elims collapse coming™️
tiny kindle
Geng don't have to play any lpl teams
They're good
And they get t1 who they own in semis
As long as blg don't make it they're good
zenith cairn
lng, hle, t1, geng
zenith cairn
rito pls
north island
But you can always have a bit of delulu
north island
rito pls
That aint 37 days
Thats November 21st, how did they f up by a whole month
and those people decided that the bug wasnt a bug
zenith cairn
doing well so far i guess
north island
Atleast I'm still on A instead of C
iron orbit
Yooo
north island
nice
tiny kindle
I think people saying g2 were more deserving of a top 8 are disingenuous and are looking at the tl fly draw
Fly were still super competitive and almost beat hle who's probably the 2nd best team in the world rn
zenith cairn
its more to do with the complete swiss stage fly and g2 had
fly had gam, dk, psg, hle, tl
g2 had pain, hle, wbg, t1, blg
tiny kindle
That doesn't matter though, wbg got an easy draw and they still beat blg to make it to finals
And g2 had the perfect opportunity to make it last year
They were salivating that they got nrg
And got absolutely punked
So the complaints this year just don't really move me
They're super inconsistent and it showed yesterday
If they were truly a top 8 worthy team you play whoever you get and beat anyone in front of you
Multiple opportunities to beat hle and t1 and they completely choked
north island
not to mention the triple choke on map 3 yesterday
zenith cairn
sure they definitely choked and shouldve made it, but that doesnt negate the point that g2's path through 3 title contenders is objectively far more difficult than fly's path
tiny kindle
And why should that matter, if they're a good team they can beat them
north island
We will always have those issues tho, next year the same thing might and probably will happen again
tiny kindle
So it just means they weren't very good
Their goals are to win finals not to squeeze it out into top 8
north island
But find a better way to do it than swiss that its fair to everyone
zenith cairn
it doesnt matter, its just what happened
nothing wrong with acknowledging it, shit happens
tiny kindle
So why are people making a fuss about it, it's not like we know if they would even beat fly
zenith cairn
its just a discussion point
tiny kindle
Just sounds like a very sore loser discussion point
I've seen na teams make it out of hard groups before so like I really don't want to hear it
That's the beauty of worlds, you play whatever you get
Complaining about hard draws just comes off as a we're not good enough to beat the best teams
I've seen c9 time and time again in the past make it out of groups facing multiple Asian teams
Like if 2023 didn't happen I'd probably be a bit more sympathetic but this team has squandered it against easy teams before
So they missed their opportunities
More people should be talking about lng if they want to complain, aside from blg who looked pretty bad, they got tl and dk
tiny kindle
Like blg really look fraudulent coming into quarters
Wins against easy teams and they looked really bad too
Everyone but bin and elk look shaky
On still hasn't found his keyboard and their jg situation is weird
indigo moat
Twitter
lavish barn
So it just means they weren't very good
Thats not necessarily true
By making into quarters you alw have more games in the worlds meta to prep for
tiny kindle
better teams can make it even with less games of prep
tiny kindle
g2 is just one of the borderline top 8 teams
lavish barn
even if you're a better team with the wrong meta read just purely on who you have to scrim with
tiny kindle
point is it's funny that na and eu always fight over stuff like this when they're gonna get clapped in the top 8
lavish barn
well that's unfortunate for them being a european team <:shrug:10980351485718241...
So then isn't it unfair to say they weren't very good?
tiny kindle
i don't think so, i don't live in the world of what ifs
g2 isn't magically gonna become an asian team
lavish barn
point is it's funny that na and eu always fight over stuff like this when they'r...
We all know g2 regardless still has the best shot of doing the best for a western org
lavish barn
No chance
tiny kindle
bro t1 3-0'd them at msi
lavish barn
Fly will get 3-0 ed
lavish barn
bro t1 3-0'd them at msi
And G2 has a series where they 3-2 them in the first place
tiny kindle
the top asian teams play to win it all
tiny kindle
and they got 2-0d by t1 this tournament
gen g is miles above t1
at this point
g2 don't stand a chance
lavish barn
well it's t1 at worlds and obviously bad meta read
lavish barn
gen g is miles above t1
I don't agree with this I'm as much of a t1 hater as anyone
tiny kindle
the only data we have
lavish barn
also papysmithy said g2 fly scrims were 50/50
Scrims is scrims we all know that
tiny kindle
yeah but how can you judge hypotheticals
this is the only data we have
you can't just trust your gut feeling
lavish barn
because g2 has proven to be the closest to the eastern teams
And thats factual no?
even watching the games
U cant waych the fly vs tl game
tiny kindle
fly went 1-2 against hle and g2 went 1-2 against blg this tournament
and hle looked way better than blg
tiny kindle
domestic matchups are always a different ball game
lavish barn
Let tl beat themselves and we win
tiny kindle
the two teams know each other very well
they aren't gonna play the same style
against asian teams
their coaches even said that
in the post game
lavish barn
So they go full monkey mode?
tiny kindle
we've seen g2 go monkey mode and just grief games completely at this tournament
lavish barn
If we're gonna do this based on that game alone fly quest shouldn't be making anywhere near top 8
tiny kindle
they aren't above western teams
lavish barn
we've seen g2 go monkey mode and just grief games completely at this tournament
Well ofc but we've also seen g2 choke out games on pure macro
Something that no other western team can do
tiny kindle
if you want to say g2 is slightly better than fly i'll give you that
but they're in the same realm where they definitely get stomped by gen g
lavish barn
I think its just disingenuous to say g2 aren't a good team
tiny kindle
well depends what you're comparing them to
to the west sure
but the favorites of the tournament
no chance
all the korean teams left wipe them
lavish barn
I disagree with that but again we can agree to disagree
G2 just needs to ditch the west at this point
tiny kindle
I don't get it, they're macro is good sure but they show time and time again to slip up under pressure, not to mention their early game is pretty bad now compared to last year
lavish barn
I don't get it, they're macro is good sure but they show time and time again to ...
During worlds their early game has been significantly better no?
tiny kindle
their ceiling can maybe match the best teams but they're also capable of reaching the lowest of lows
lavish barn
If its summer fine that's fair
But during worlds itself they had decent -> good early games
tiny kindle
literally all the games against the top teams they were significantly behind
lavish barn
literally all the games against the top teams they were significantly behind
Thats not even true ?
tiny kindle
hle and t1 they were mega behind
lavish barn
Blg game 2
tiny kindle
blg hasn't even looked that good i don't think they're making it past hle
tiny kindle
??
hle was the one who threw lol
g2 got completely wiped early, then hle made a big mistake that allowed g2 back in the game
lavish barn
Wrong game nvm
tiny kindle
then g2 were just unable to end the game and got outscaled
lavish barn
Thats fair I would also say
Considering their losing position and being outscaled they still found ways to push for a win
They had plays
I wont deny they'll probably lose against geng or hle or t1
But idt it'll be a 3-0
lavish barn
but gen g is a 3-0 for sure
Nope
tiny kindle
you haven't been watching gen g games
lavish barn
I have
tiny kindle
their early game, macro, and teamfighting are unmatched by any team in the world right now
tiny kindle
"choke" meaning that delight hit an insane
5 man rell ult
ok but that's the finals lol
it's worlds now
that doesn't matter anymore
and that's hle not g2
lavish barn
Well yes ofc cause it'd worlds
It'll be a 3-1
G2 alw has strats and picks they can bring out
Still dk why they kept going nocturne ori
Looked useless as hell
tiny kindle
idk what these strats and picks are
they've never shown any of that
unless you've got insider information
or mikyx is just gonna pull out poppy again
tiny kindle
bb has played yas top before and it's one of his best champs
if you want to talk about real pocketpicks that's inspired's nunu
or ryze taric in the last game
lavish barn
bb has played yas top before and it's one of his best champs
It is still a pocket pick regardless
tiny kindle
guess they should've used more of their pocket picks if they wanted to make it out
lavish barn
And Galio top?
tiny kindle
we've seen yasuo already in the tournament
lavish barn
guess they should've used more of their pocket picks if they wanted to make it o...
I don't disagree but even you here saying this says that they do have picks
tiny kindle
yeah but not to the extent that you think it is, and i hardly think it matters against a better team like gen g
i just think they're worlds apart
lavish barn
Come on we can have this conversation without being dismissive and disingenuous at all
tiny kindle
that's just you homie 
your bias for g2 going too strong
i have faith in them but not that kinda faith
tiny kindle
i don't know how you can say that when gen g literally does everything better than them
even their best player gets mega gapped
hle's probably the 2nd best team at worlds rn and they looked pretty lost in that series if not for delight's miracle play
blg isn't in form, i don't think t1 has enough to beat them
lavish barn
i don't know how you can say that when gen g literally does everything better th...
That's perfectly fair
tiny kindle
it's gonna be an easy run for them to the chip
lavish barn
blg isn't in form, i don't think t1 has enough to beat them
Who's blg facing again
tiny kindle
hle
lavish barn
Ah hle 3-2
tiny kindle
point is fly have shown that they can teamfight, macro, and have weird pocketpicks
lavish barn
I won't dismiss t1 at worlds it's still t1 at worlds
tiny kindle
to say that they are that far below g2 is a bit disingeneous
especially going off this worlds both teams have shown great performances against asian teams
lavish barn
Geng is still the most likely to win
indigo moat
surely t1 are gonna beat geng this time
lavish barn
point is fly have shown that they can teamfight, macro, and have weird pocketpic...
I disagree on the macro part
indigo moat
11th time is the charm
lavish barn
especially going off this worlds both teams have shown great performances agains...
That's fair but I also wouldn't say
Fly are in the same tier as g2
They're still a tier below
tiny kindle
we'll never know they've never played each other at worlds
lavish barn
Yeah
tiny kindle
people were saying that nrg weren't in their tier
and they got stomped
that's why i'm just x to doubt on the g2 hype train
lavish barn
thats just completely on them so I don't disagree
lavish barn
2023 was full them coking
tiny kindle
especially against better teams
all we can go off on is how did they perform against other teams
they both almost beat top asian teams so it's only fair to put them in the same tier
lavish barn
I'll alw trust g2 more than any other western team
Statistically it speaks for itself too against the east
Iirc there's a stat somewhere thay says since 2020 g2 has had more wins against eastern teams w/ less games played than all the western teams combined
tiny kindle
those g2 teams are long gone, i have 0 faith in any western team to win
lavish barn
those g2 teams are long gone, i have 0 faith in any western team to win
G2 weren't in worlds in 21 22 either
tiny kindle
the 3-0 against tes at msi was nice but besides that
lavish barn
those g2 teams are long gone, i have 0 faith in any western team to win
Same with their trajectory no western team will win
It was now or never
The best way is for g2 to just yeet out of eu at this point if
lavish barn
Eu refuses to do anything
lavish barn
they were in 2022 worlds
I swore they didn't make it
indigo moat
2021 they didnt
lavish barn
Cause I rmbr that team being piss
tiny kindle
that was the flakked targamas team
lavish barn
Yea the flakked targa
Bb fisted by China tops
Ah I rmbr now
Erased from memory
It was the rogue quarters year
tiny kindle
to me g2 rn just feels like c9 from 2016-2018, nice enough to maybe give some excitement against asian teams, but in terms of actual winning i don't have much hope
which is why i'm not really mad with the situation
especially considering how many chances they had to make it
if anything let a new western team have a crack at it
fly definitely will have some interesting picks to pull out
considering that gen g will just mega gap if you play standard
lavish barn
if anything let a new western team have a crack at it
We shall see ig
Still brings up how unseeded Swiss sucks
indigo moat
we'll see who they replace yike and miky with
lavish barn
This is why in cs Swiss is alw seeded
lavish barn
we'll see who they replace yike and miky with
Can't think of anyone tbh
tiny kindle
i think the swiss format's perfectly fine, it's supposed to be really luck based cause that create drama and chances for upset
it's miles better than the group stage format we used to have
they fine tuned it this year to get rid of civil wars (in the first round at least) and rematches
g2 may have lost but we still got to see them play against good teams which is all fans can really ask for tbh
indigo moat
yeah no format is perfect but i enjoy the swiss format
tiny kindle
i just think eu and na need to be kicked out of pool 1
their 1st seeds are on the level of like 3rd/4th asian teams
lavish barn
i think the swiss format's perfectly fine, it's supposed to be really luck based...
Eh not when monkeying is possible
Seeding would be nice
tiny kindle
not too sure what you mean by seeding
indigo moat
yeah idk how that would work
tiny kindle
it's hindsight but man that g2 team should've never split up, like you make another top 4 and you split
it destroyed fnatic and g2 at the same time
indigo moat
time for g2 rekkles support
indigo moat
seems like the rumor for new jungler is skewmond from bds academy
lavish barn
Iirc it was cause perkz didn't want to adc anymore
Then he changed his mind but it was too late or smth
Tldr is
lavish barn
not too sure what you mean by seeding
Use the world rankings
1st vs last 2nd vs 2nd last etc
It's how cs does it we still get exciting match ups and upsets where 2 good teams knock each other out
But less monkeying
tiny kindle
doesn't that just mean more bad teams make it
unless this is double elim or something
lavish barn
hans feels too invisible
Yea I'm more surprised miky over hans
tiny kindle
miky a scapegoat i been saying this
he has random int moments but he does make a lot of big plays
lavish barn
doesn't that just mean more bad teams make it
Not rly less bad teams make it
lavish barn
I think its his inconsistencies esp in summer
That male them do it
But who are you gonna replace miky with
tiny kindle
i don't really mind as long as they show up for worlds
like t1 looked giga bad all summer
especially oner and keria
but they show up at worlds
lavish barn
Yea which the system still allows for
It rewards consistency more
Since it'll be using the world ranking system
And stronger emphasis on stronger recent performances ofc
But we shall see ig
I've got a feeling hans is kept purely for the sponsors
Because man's a fantastic model tbh for alot of their brand sponsors
Money talks
And he isn't like bad or anything he's a good adc
tiny kindle
idk i think it's just an argument whether you see more merit in being consistent or being good enough to avoid dropping random games, it's like comparing the nba vs nfl, do you think there's more merit in winning a bo7 or winning 1 game
cause the nba definitely rewards consistency more
but that's what makes the nfl playoffs so exciting
that's what makes worlds so much harder to win than msi
cause of all these unknown variables
where you can get a team like drx winning
lavish barn
And thats fair but also you would want the best at worlds too
And having to beat only lower tier teams to get there is kinda massive L
Not saying it's flyquests fault
They can only beat whay they're given
But it still sucks
There's obviously no perfect bracket
tiny kindle
i think making top 8 is kind of a nothingburger at this point, most bad teams get exposed at that point already
lavish barn
But theres still improvements to be made
tiny kindle
like sure wbg got nrg in quarters
but they still had to go through blg after that
it allows for bad teams to have a chance
but as the tournament goes on most of the bad teams get weeded out
actual good teams get rewarded and its more entertaining
lavish barn
Bad teams shouldn't have a chance to make it to quarters though
We shouldn't be rewarding it
tiny kindle
but they aren't bad though
i think fly have shown enough to be a borderline top 8 team
I just think if g2 need to rely on a luckier draw to get out then it probably isn't something to get excited about
indigo moat
true
tiny kindle
and making it just to get stomped in quarters is kind of a sad endgoal
like the west really should have bigger goals at this point
considering we've seen fnc and g2 make finals in the past
it's just a mindset kinda thing for me
indigo moat
they had a bo1 against hle and bo3's against t1 and blg and couldnt win any of them
lavish barn
I won't disagree
indigo moat
but if they made it to quarters they'd just be playing those same teams in a bo5
tiny kindle
the only people happy about fly making top 8 are just people who want to win the na vs eu argument
i don't really care cause they're gonna get curb stomped by gen g
which is the same in reverse for g2
lavish barn
I think it does matter in the end how far you go
Practice alw helps and such
And again we're back to hypotheticals
indigo moat
just have to hope that gen g don't know what nunu does
lavish barn
But u also can't say that g2 weren't hard done by the draw
tiny kindle
getting stomped in quarters vs getting eliminated in the 2-2 stage for me is the same
i mean yeah they got the harder draw for sure
but they didn't beat the good teams
lavish barn
Hle -> T1 -> BLG pretty much they worst draw they couldve gotten
lavish barn
getting stomped in quarters vs getting eliminated in the 2-2 stage for me is the...
1 week of practice makes a dif
Esp for meta reads
indigo moat
yeah some team is gonna get a hard draw every year
tiny kindle
not that big enough for me
indigo moat
kt had to play 5 eastern matchups last year
lavish barn
I disagree I think getting a good read makes a dif
tiny kindle
like i really don't think 1 more week of practice is gonna make g2 a remotely good enough team against gen g
maybe to steal 1 game like you said
lavish barn
kt had to play 5 eastern matchups last year
Yea they were massively chucked too
tiny kindle
but in bo5 it's completely wiped
lavish barn
I mean if you have a system where this can happen regularly it's inherently flawed no?
tiny kindle
also if anything
gen g only played 3 games
g2 got 5
you could argue they got more stage experience
while gen g are just rotting at home
lavish barn
but then
Geng scrims lpl lck bubble
G2 has eu na bubble
It's all hypotheticals
And I won't say g2 deserved to win worlds or anyth
indigo moat
yeah gen g have 15 days between beating hle and facing flyquest
lavish barn
It's more of systemically Swiss without seeding sucks alot more
lavish barn
yeah gen g have 15 days between beating hle and facing flyquest
I don't get the worlds schedule either
tiny kindle
G2 has eu na bubble
they scrimmed gen g lol
lavish barn
Why isit so spaced out
lavish barn
they scrimmed gen g lol
After they came to Europe
tiny kindle
yeah but we're talking about worlds right now
g2 has got more time to ramp up
and stage experience
has so much more value
vs scrims
lavish barn
Lck and lpl came to eu alot later than the na team
tiny kindle
if you want to talk about eu just being a bad region then there's nothing more to be said there
it's just a region gap
but it's irrelevant to the point i'm trying to make
lavish barn
Eu is a terrible region yes
The point I'm making is
Swiss isn't as good without seedings and I mean that's my opinion esp from watching Swiss in cs alot more
tiny kindle
1 week of practice makes a dif
I mean this is what you said, and I said g2 playing more stage games makes up for that
lavish barn
I don't like it when it's so strongly lucked based
Luck is fine yes but there's too much variance for me
tiny kindle
i can only really say that fly benefitted from the luck
everyone else had to play good teams
g2 just lost against better teams time and time again
luck only really lets like one or two upsets really happen
if you look at the top 8 you can only really say wbg and fly are the odd ones out
but that just means g2 are in that same tier
the only difference is they got unlucky draws compared to wbg and fly
but at the end of the day if they got luckier they would've just lost in top 8 instead like wbg and fly
lavish barn
it's fair but we'll never know ig
tiny kindle
yeah like at the end of the day fly/g2 both getting clapped in quarters 
it's just an na eu dogfight while the east just watches and laughs
indigo moat
yeah the west just sucks
tiny kindle
na at least looked better this year
but big picture it's just nice little brownie points
indigo moat
we can just pretend 100T dont exist
tiny kindle
i just want to say c9 lost to that
100t shouldn't have even been there they sucked all year long
tiny kindle
honestly deserved though
lcs is basically a 2 team region at best
maybe this will spur more competition and teams will get better
indigo moat
yeah next year gonna be weird
not crazy about the 3 lec splits but now everyone is gonna be doing it
north island
https://x.com/Sheep_Esports/status/1845909521404690587
Why yike :(
indigo moat
same
lusty garden
oh damn
gonna be an epic month
funny how worlds and mr.olympia is in the same month
iron orbit
iron orbit
Throughout entire november
Early november act 1, mid november act 2, late november act 3
zenith cairn
song is okay
zenith cairn
new skin system is gacha, gross
iron orbit
And I'm going to guess it'll be the most garbage predatory gacha
Making gacha games seem like charity compared to it :P
wild isle
nexus finishers. heard of it like forever ago it feels like. their finally starting huh
zenith cairn
fnatic is doing the same thing with one of their valorant players
they’re letting him go to any region outside of emea
tiny kindle
Org running itself into the ground
fresh fjord
QUARTER FINALS BABYYYYYYYY
tiny kindle
So excited to see the Paris crowd
Goodbye stale ass lec studio
Real worlds starts tonight
misty bolt
well depends on how many people want to join at 2pm on thursday for a china vs china match
tiny kindle
paris usually has one of the best crowds in europe and just being in a stadium gives it a better feeling
ngl i'm kinda buying into the lng narrative cause of scout
fresh fjord
niceee they gave the narration to Laure
zenith cairn
indigo moat
that didnt take long 
tiny kindle
fncpausehack, europe still finding a way to make top 8
indigo moat
fresh fjord
ez breathe
indigo moat
ez baron
tiny kindle
damn lng just got outscaled
indigo moat
gg
fresh fjord
yone lets goooooooo
zenith cairn
shid my caedrel sub ran out and the twitch adblock extensions dont work anymore
shambles
vocal barn
Sorry Con, haven't worked on it yet 
fresh fjord
mb
zenith cairn
i had my prime on him but i canceled it
fresh fjord
ahhh i see
zenith cairn
the amazon video sub that is
indigo moat
holyyyy
tiny kindle
I just tuned back how are lng winning again
indigo moat
1-1 nice
multiple weibo members died in lng's base and allowed lng to get mountain soul
zenith cairn
scout 
indigo moat
yooooooooooo
tiny kindle
damn lng are just falling apart
indigo moat
looking good for weibo
tiny kindle
are these guys just chokers
tiny kindle
gg
tiny kindle
feels kinda sad to see gala going out on jhin
indigo moat
yeah seems like jhin sucks
indigo moat
SCOUTTTT
fresh fjord
didnt even notice breathe wasnt there haha
scout so rich now
nooo the coach hahahhaa
indigo moat
gg
fresh fjord
xiaohu is 6/0/14 wtf
tiny kindle
there's no freaking way weibo are a top 4 team at worlds
fresh fjord
hes so consistent when it matters
tiny kindle
wallahi
indigo moat
LPL 4th seed is top 4
tiny kindle
fnc almost beat this team btw
and lng went 3-0 in swiss
I guess lpl teams just know each other
indigo moat
true
they played them at summer playoffs and regional finals
jhin is 5-13 and T1 are the only lpl/lck team that lost to it
tiny kindle
everyone saw the statik ult and thought it was broken
tiny kindle
lng's macro was good but they just got outplayed lol
skill diff literally
xiaohu is so clutch
I hope we stop seeing this vegan jhin
formal kayak
Chilling with 125 points 😎
north island
Rip pickems...
Found so many people at the ARTMS concert that are into league, we were watching the first two map during queueing and we were all for LNG
I hope the winner of HLE/BLG will beat them 3-0
formal kayak
Who did yall pick for hle blg
tiny kindle
My guts says blg but I'm going with hle
Both teams look real shaky
I just like the meta a little more for hle
zenith cairn
quiet stream
this expect weibo win
i can see a world where top wins
but its not this one fr
blg winning is a way safer bet
zenith cairn
honestly i still think top will win
quiet stream
but hle my heart…
zenith cairn
but t1 just has worlds plot armor
quiet stream
i need peanut to get a ring
deft was a player who for years im like fuck he needs to win
2015 edg was crazy
pawn deft meiko clearlove kuro1
even when they replaced pawn
and flame was playing instead of kuro1 it was insane
i want that win for peanut so close but yet so far manytimes
literally lost on t1
misty bolt
pretty sure that the one person that outsmoked Snoop Dogg was Willie Nelson
shrewd steppe
flame was born in the wrong generation
he wouldve been dominating if he was born any later
unfortunate he was during the cj entus days and went to an lgd that crashed and burned
zenith cairn
babe wake up todays teaser dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb7KMo-2p7c
tiny kindle
This is gonna be a mega classic
I need 5 games
The meta is perfect from zeka I hope we get an iconic series from him
wild isle
got so much to catch up to tomorrow. how many games was lng wbg?
tiny kindle
4
wild isle
nice
fresh fjord
what a chad first pick
tiny kindle
aura
zenith cairn
did i miss much
fresh fjord
pretty wild level 1 dives
zenith cairn
😔
fresh fjord
but games evenish
zenith cairn
sylas always a good watch
zenith cairn
big
tiny kindle
knight's yone isn't even hard carrying
doran just hard inted top lane
and then hle for some reason tried to fight grubs behind
lavish barn
bruh
tiny kindle
knight's inted the last two fights
lavish barn
only tri and steraks