General Chat

[neon scroll]

Mafia game but actually set in Italy?

[wispy gate]

speed run awards

[stable stratus]

balatro

ofc

[neon scroll]

Sweeeeeep

[stable stratus]

hmm

balatro it is

they could beat goty too... rright

....?

find out soon

[neon scroll]

The actual Genshin award

[placid otter]

wukong go!

[cinder rivet]

Wuwa pls

[stable stratus]

wukong

[neon scroll]

Oh wow

[stable stratus]

PLS

YES

[placid otter]

LETSGOOOO

[neon scroll]

Infinity Nikki

[cinder rivet]

At least not genshin

[stable stratus]

Lead vocalist: Jessie J?

wait

they got her to sing?

[neon scroll]

I mean, I don't even mind this game It seems like it's perfect for its target audience

[placid otter]

seen the name go around alot, but no clue what it is

[stable stratus]

price tag

if you know that song you probably know by now

[wispy gate]

no idea

[stable stratus]

what

[cinder rivet]

Jessie was known
Like 10 years ago

[stable stratus]

this

[neon scroll]

"known"

[wispy gate]

oh google play ad

[stable stratus]

where chuu

[minor bolt]

there's gotta be something else big coming

no way schrier would hype up just elden ring

[dusty imp]

mists of pandaria is that you

[cinder rivet]

I beg for prince of persia

[placid otter]

oh official pc support intresting

[neon scroll]

Shitty ad time

[cinder rivet]

I use google play games for some time and it's pretty good

[stable stratus]

hmm

[wispy gate]

laura

[latent mantle]

aaron paul?

[wispy gate]

wew

[neon scroll]

Laura "I am in every game" Bayley

[latent mantle]

hahaha

[stable stratus]

epic 7 surprisingly runs better natively on pc than google play pc

so there's that

[rustic peak]

Oh I just saw the borderlands 4 trailer

Definitely a trailer of all time that one

[placid otter]

just forget u ever did

[cinder rivet]

Good trailer but couldn't find borderlands in it

[stable stratus]

invinclble?

[cinder rivet]

Man sounds like viktor

[dusty imp]

oh its a telltale like

interesting

[cinder rivet]

Sam Lake

[neon scroll]

Of course Sam's here

lol

[stable stratus]

jacksepticeye apperantly on it too

[minor bolt]

control 2 when, sam

[latent mantle]

max payne mode

[stable stratus]

lol

[placid otter]

this TGA has been real comedic i love it

[neon scroll]

Nice

That scream

[minor bolt]

silksong, gta6 or hl3

place bets

[placid otter]

what this

[stable stratus]

not half life 3 rip

[placid otter]

gta6

[wispy gate]

seiko?

[placid otter]

am so lost

[dusty imp]

okami

[wispy gate]

I have no idea as well

[dusty imp]

noway

[latent mantle]

ye

Okami

[neon scroll]

Ah, the Okami remake

[minor bolt]

huh

[placid otter]

ohh hideki

idk what okami is though

[stable stratus]

oh

new studio

[neon scroll]

An amazing game is what it is

[stable stratus]

uh

that's the last announcement i guess

no kh4

[wispy gate]

Crimson Dessert

[cinder rivet]

Where is prince 😔

[neon scroll]

No GTA6 is more surprising tbh

[cinder rivet]

It looks literally like dragons dogma 2

More fluid tho

[dusty imp]

you cant follow up okami 2 with this as the final announcement geoff

[cinder rivet]

And fortnite ad

[minor bolt]

real

[stable stratus]

lol

[placid otter]

lmao

hahaha

[neon scroll]

Roasted

[dusty imp]

poor geoff

[wispy gate]

oh 1 more

gta6?

[placid otter]

ofcourse there is

[minor bolt]

naughty dog cmon

[stable stratus]

"original world"

rip

inb4 it's star citizen

[latent mantle]

we know his face

[minor bolt]

cory barlogs scifi ip he's been working on for ages?

[dusty imp]

ohhh

new naughty dog

[neon scroll]

Damn

[minor bolt]

fire

[neon scroll]

That's pretty hype, ngl

[minor bolt]

show saved

[placid otter]

cool

[neon scroll]

We love new IPs instead of yet another sequel

[stable stratus]

the goat is back

[oak ruin]

damn might actually cop a ps5

[neon scroll]

Ok, time to see the internet burn. Balatro sweep!

[placid otter]

aye the goat

[stable stratus]

if they gonna pull the funny balatro sweep

they gonna do balatro goty edition isn't it

[neon scroll]

Bro spittin' facts

[minor bolt]

this is funny since goty 2025 is gonna be gta6 and rockstar will do all of this

[placid otter]

LOL

[stable stratus]

yea kek

[dusty imp]

flute guy

[cinder rivet]

HES HERE

[stable stratus]

he's apperantly been there since okami sequel reveal

yeaa

this sound i like

[latent mantle]

nice

[neon scroll]

It's so hilariously out of place between those AAA games, lmao

[dusty imp]

are you sure about that

[placid otter]

yeah its funny lol

HE IS JUMPING

[stable stratus]

Balatro solo sweeping this award is gonna be peak comedy

[minor bolt]

[stable stratus]

expected

[placid otter]

POG

[neon scroll]

Sadge, but it's fine

[wispy gate]

nice

[stable stratus]

Balatro to be standing there is already astonishing

[placid otter]

honestly completely fine with it. just so insanely fun

[neon scroll]

Better than Wukong or Elden Ring DLC

Nintendo is gonna be so mad

[cinder rivet]

Good

[stable stratus]

i wonder the overall standings for this

i bet balatro is 2nd behind astro

[neon scroll]

Balatro won pretty much everything else it was nominated in, so it's ok

[misty dawn]

balatro orchestral suite

[stable stratus]

ye

i need that remix officially

[misty dawn]

hey 3/5 is pretty good

[placid otter]

mentioning mario

[wispy gate]

"I have managed to not mentioned them"

lol

[neon scroll]

Ok, can we go now

[cinder rivet]

"Nintendo, thanks for Mario but fuck u"

[misty dawn]

[cinder rivet]

HEAVY IS THE CROOOOOOWN

[placid otter]

this just made me excited againg to continue astrobot tomorrow too

[stable stratus]

the duology of man lmao

[cinder rivet]

Twitter gonna be wild

[dusty imp]

at the end of the day

we can all be united in the lack of silksong

[cinder rivet]

And prince, and gta6

[placid otter]

couldn't care any less for silksong

[stable stratus]

no bloodborne pc release
no hollow knight 2
no kh4
no hl3

all you will get is gta6 next year

[placid otter]

surely gta6 gets delayed

[cinder rivet]

No Bloodborne was obvious
Playstation would prefer to show it themselves

[placid otter]

maybe after the kadokawa take over

[cinder rivet]

At least lost crown got 1 reward ❤️

[stable stratus]

https://x.com/Epicartworks/status/1867358045699027164

Epic Wallpapers (@Epicartworks) on X

.@greentextrepost

Twitter · Dec 12, 2024, 11:57 PM

[placid otter]

https://x.com/GermanStrands/status/1867382878490796083

GermanStrands (@GermanStrands) on X

Elden Ring Nightreign Info:

-Dungeon exploration
-Character growth
-Objective to live tree days
-Encounter a powerfull enemy on the third day
-8 heroes
-Number of players: 3 players with single-player support
-Full game
-Genre "Co-op survival action"
-Coming to PS5/PS4, Xbox and

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 1:35 AM

3 players perfect number for me

[cinder rivet]

Single player support

Good for lone wolves like me

https://x.com/The_Ben_Starr/status/1867389721842004309?t=-C8TVGzSKZncAG1RBbXEvg&s=19

Ben Starr (@The_Ben_Starr) on X

I’m in #Tekken8. 🔥

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 2:02 AM

https://x.com/LeagueOfLegends/status/1867423286034116906?t=XfMq2QlqumJ522lq2rX57A&s=19

League of Legends (@LeagueOfLegends) on X

ggs @BlackMythGame

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 4:16 AM

LMAO

[fathom meteor]

Astrobooottt???

[cinder rivet]

Someone earlier said ppl gonna mald bc witcher goes woke bc female protagonist

Wait until ppl realize

Ciri likes girls

She was either bi or gay in books, i don't remember
And she had that one scene in witcher 3 that hinted that for those who didn't read books

We gonna have tlou2 war again

[stable stratus]

https://twitter.com/cametek/status/1867424997175963692?t=UChAoznILIFssf0rmd13sg&s=19

かめりあ (Camellia) @ Operation: Zenithfall OUT (@cametek) on X

I'm truly honored to receive The Most Fingers-Arms-Wrists-Shoulders-and-Legs-Breaking Rhythm Game Composer Award in The Game Award 2024

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 4:23 AM

[bitter portal]

my yt feed has been full of intel arc b580

good thing i held back on upgrading my gtx 1660super

now i pray ph prices dont fuck it up

[minor bolt]

wait for nvidia 50 series

see if they make the 5060 competitive with it

[bitter portal]

i hope so too

[minor bolt]

for me the b580 is only like $30 cheaper than the 4060

[bitter portal]

4060 here is close to $400

[bitter portal]

all the benchmarks and reviews i watched on yt says b580 is stronger than rtx4060

and rx 7600

while somehow cheaper

[minor bolt]

yeah but the 4060 is also 18 months old

if you're buying right now then yeah arc is a good buy

[bitter portal]

yep but can't really buy b580 cause i read somewhere the card would be available mid january for ph

and at that point, ill just wait for the others just to see

but ngl i doubt nvidia would be competitive about it, maybe amd will

[slate thorn]

Damn, Stellar Blade robbed from soundtrack award 😔

[slate thorn]

5060 releases like april or somethinng

Nvidia is only releasing their higher end stuff at first

[bitter portal]

oh april, ok will wait on this

[stable stratus]

https://twitter.com/shibainoe/status/1867457700583596201

Inoe (@shibainoe) on X

So, The Game Awards just doxxed a random Indonesian guy's phone number (again)

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 6:33 AM

this is kinda funny

[slate thorn]

I don't get it / see it

[stable stratus]

so the format numbering for indonesian phone numbers are consists of 12 numbers beginning with 08xx-xxxx-xxxx

so most potentially these fornite codes can be called

[slate thorn]

What numbers?

Am I blind?

[stable stratus]

i mean digits

[slate thorn]

Eh?

[random field]

its a video that they for whatever reason decided to not embed so we get zero context without opening it on twitter

the number theyre talking about is just the fortnite island code for the game awards' custom island

[stable stratus]

and it's still a coincidence if the numbers that start with 08 might potentially become a legit number than can be phoned

[dusty imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaGKJT2_ZF0

[placid otter]

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1867443964049256772?s=19

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth PC Specs.

"The team is working hard to optimize the game for Steam Deck."

https://t.co/5q8PjnWIiu

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 5:38 AM

[slate thorn]

24 hours

[cinder rivet]

https://x.com/GundamIsHere/status/1867597797803143268

itsagundam (@GundamIsHere) on X

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 3:49 PM

[cinder rivet]

yup
it already started

[placid otter]

https://fxtwitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1867691039651508510

[stable stratus]

https://twitter.com/gaming_leaker/status/1867343773417496767?t=85G0lQX1_WACDTbFHVEXbQ&s=19

legit gaming leaks (@gaming_leaker) on X

Nintendo Switch 2 exclusive games will be released exclusively on the Nintendo Switch 2.

Twitter · Dec 12, 2024, 11:00 PM

[neon scroll]

Most useless sentence in the history of useless sentences

[stable stratus]

https://youtu.be/g86eP48WN78?si=FP3mRYyzQuLtMutA

[neon scroll]

Boy was he wrong

But these are the best games, just created by some dude with actual passion for what they are doing and not just money in their mind

[stable stratus]

yep

doing what he loves to do

[slate thorn]

Whaaaat!!??! Switch 2 games will release on the Switch 2?!? So you're telling me I bought a Sega Dreamcast for nothing!???

[fallow vessel]

well switch 2 games will also be released on emulators 2 weeks before switch 2 release

[fallow vessel]

well caved in and bought poe2

issue is that game is 86gb so not getting to play it until tomorrow

[slate thorn]

rip slow internet :(

[glass knot]

this reminds me when i got the free trial of hitman 3

and the free trial makes you download the whole game

Its like 80gigs

wild stuff

[fallow vessel]

I don't really play arpgs so not sure how long I'll be able to play it

[glass knot]

now i have the game anyway so it doesn't matter

[jovial wolf]

depends how ok are you with the game kicking your ass, normies are suffering a bit

[fallow vessel]

I remember playing poe1 for a while

couldn't get through act 4 or so and I didn't like the idea of having to play this game with a guide open all the time or go study for 3 years to understand what to do

[neon scroll]

The 653764365246446346 options in the skill tree probably don't help with that

If you wanna figure out a build without any guides... good luck

[jovial wolf]

meh, that's way overblown, especially for PoE2

[neon scroll]

See, PoE players are always like "It's actually really simple", but you're talking about normies, so... no, no it's not.

[jovial wolf]

there are several magnitudes of difference in being able to blast end game and just finishing the campaign in PoE, the latter is (and has been done by many people) completely fine without guides, you just zoom in on the passive tree and ignore the stuff you have no way of reaching anyway

for PoE2 they have recommended skills (with video preview) and supports, you just pick one and then pick stuff on the tree that sounds like it helps with that

I am not saying that the game is easy, but the complexity issue really is not a thing until you start maps

[neon scroll]

Yeah, but the PoE 2 campaign isn't finished, is it? so what else would you be doing

[jovial wolf]

the last part was about original's complexity

if you get through campaign (and the temporary second difficulty) in PoE2, you will be fine with starting maps

the complaints the loud people have about 2 aren't really about the complexity

it's just the classics like "not enough loot", "this boss is too hard, I tried nothing and I am out of ideas"

and let's be clear, lot of those are PoE normies that blasted through campaing every season, got into mid maps with a guide and never had to actually think about the game. completely new people tend to do better than that

people coming in fresh from souls-like seem to be having a blast the most

[neon scroll]

I personally wouldn't call souls like players normies

[jovial wolf]

I did say "the most"

anyone who played some kind of rpg should be fine to build a basic concept of a build in PoE2

the original's complexity was mainly in 10 years of end game systems (you have six in 2 and streamlined for start) and the crafting that was actually genuinely insane and pretty much all of that is gone

[neon scroll]

(For now)

[jovial wolf]

it's the paradox dlc problem in another clothing

it's fine if you get in at the start

check in three years in and you're fucked

[neon scroll]

Paradox DLC is like "Oh wow, an endgame crisis and a new race, also revamped system X, that totally means a lot to me"

And then you look at reviews and half of them are gonna be "THIS ONE IS SHIT, SKIP IT"

[jovial wolf]

EU4 stuff was actually base game mechanics

you skipped two of those and you had to relearn most of the game

[neon scroll]

Hey, new game experience! Win?...

[jovial wolf]

oh it was great, but the buy-in process sucked

last anno had similar "problem"

what do you mean I have to have colony in new world AND africa now

like I am barely keeping my main city working

[fallow vessel]

last time I saw anno I saw people having a completely functional colonies and then like 3 factories constantly at 250% to keep up with the demands of the engineers

[jovial wolf]

the stuff people are able to do in that game is insane

[neon scroll]

See, this is why I prefer Civ over the complexity monsters of Paradox and the like. You can just play and not worry too much about fine tuning if you want. New Civ shaping up to be interesting, too

Not sure about the ages system yet, but we'll see

[jovial wolf]

i get that for the 4X games

but there is just the hit that only city builders get

and the Mainz folk are just best in business for that

[neon scroll]

Fair. Personally never saw much fun in city builders, takes a certain mathematician mindset

[jovial wolf]

that's pretty accurate

[neon scroll]

I only do production lines on my farming games, tyvm

I call them Stardew-likes

Completely ignoring the actual predecessors

[jovial wolf]

that has similar feel, just without the disaster you know is just behind a corner

[neon scroll]

Worst that can happen is my animals getting mad at me for a day because they lack food, and really you just have to get past a certain point to automatically prevent that

Well, actual worst thing is not watering crops for a day snd ruining your plans for a whole month, but that's early game woes as well

[placid otter]

https://x.com/Ubisoft/status/1867994258805772745

Ubisoft (@Ubisoft) on X

Rayman has jumped, floated, and punched his way into the world of Astro Bot!

Play #ASTROBOT now and rescue Rayman—because even heroes need a helping hand sometimes!

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 6:05 PM

cool

[cinder rivet]

W collab

[fallow vessel]

sure I guess

[neon scroll]

https://youtu.be/ttVtllHkb4E?si=A5a8_Y1wfszpSa5c

Oh no

[pearl cobalt]

for those interested in the PC side:
https://youtu.be/araZUoSOPmM?feature=shared

[placid otter]

https://fxtwitter.com/mrpyo1/status/1868298655309889822?s=19

[smoky imp]

[placid otter]

2 years is crazy

[cinder rivet]

ah shit here we go again

[neon scroll]

They got players choice, so it's ok, really. All 4 of those GOTY contenders deserved it in their own way, was a rather stacked lineup after all (I refuse to count the DLC as a serious contender still)

[glass knot]

Balatro won in my heart

It should've won solely based on the main theme

Orchestral rendition of it at the event was awesome

So worth anyway

[stable stratus]

it should be

apperantly the game will receive major update next year

[neon scroll]

Hey, same. But I just can't be mad at a genuine passion project like Astro Bot (which it somehow actually is, despite being from Sony and a AAA. That whole dev team feels very genuine)

[slate thorn]

So that Date Everything game

Apparently two of the developers are Robbie Daymond and Max Mittelman

[neon scroll]

Whomst

[slate thorn]

Two pretty big voice actors

https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Robbie-Daymond/

https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Max-Mittelman/

[glass knot]

Oh I'm very glad for Astrobot

Game seems really fun, just don't own a ps5 so

Can't say much about it lol

Solo indie dev game winning would've been too good to be true

But the fact it got a nomination is already huge

bought mobile version today cause yeah

[neon scroll]

Yeah, only very few indies in general get to have GOTY nominations. Celeste got one back in the day, so did Hades. Balatro is basically only the 3rd

Actually, 4th. I forgot about Inside

[dusty imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be5Err7ygLs

nintendo vs disney

unstoppable force vs immovable object

[fallow vessel]

died like 8 times before clearing act 1 in poe2

and people are telling me that I should just use a guide which gives me a feeling that this massive skill tree just gives you an illusion of choice

[jovial wolf]

you will be way better off long term if you figure out your first character on your own

and if you're sticking to the recommended stuff for classes you really don't need it

8 deaths in act 1 is completely fine on the first run, great even

[fallow vessel]

I saw a bunch of people on streams doing some builds

But I havent seen a single person do poison bow build so Im just doing that following the poison nodes on skill tree

not sure exactly what skills Ill stick with yet

[jovial wolf]

that's the way, if you start to feel like you're dying to much just pick some defensive stuff along the way you went and you're good

[fallow vessel]

well the defensive stuff Ive been picking so far is a bit of strength on the attribute little nodes

because I felt that picking more dex when I have like 80 dex 10 str and 10 int is a bit of a waste

[jovial wolf]

that works too

at lower levels probably even better than the % based nodes

[cinder rivet]

ITTO

[fallow vessel]

there is some stuff that the game doesnt explain which it could

like it took me about 10 minutes to figure out how plaguebearer works

[minor bolt]

got around to finishing astro bot

i get why it won goty now

[slate thorn]

I still have to get the game one day

[neon scroll]

Maybe they'll do a celebatory christmas discount

[slate thorn]

Even then I won't buy for I have spent too much money

Maybe next summer

[placid otter]

yeah it is very deserved. personally choice would still be wukong, but that is prob just because i prefer action over platformers.

[minor bolt]

now i gotta replay horizon zero dawn since ps4 saves dont transfer over to the remaster

[bitter portal]

excited for this

also there's a thread for marvel rivals https://discord.com/channels/482594344390623240/1314588610963570728

[ebon orchid]

https://fxtwitter.com/CivGame/status/1869082840396149216?t=b6awwPVCDElPSYgcN2vmtQ&s=19
another harriet tubman w

i am unsure if i'd choose people who were not leaders of states to include as leaders, but i mean civ 6 included a gilgamesh whose existence is debatable, and civ 7 has machievelli, benjamin franklin and ibn battuta all non-leaders announced as playable leader, so cannot really object to the choice that much

[neon scroll]

Do you really have to overthink everything

[ebon orchid]

i think it is interesting that civ 7 adds on important/influential people culturally as well as classic rulers into choices of leaders we can play as

i am excited for the game

[dusty imp]

civ 7 got rid of great people

so to highlight important historical figures they need to be civs

[ebon orchid]

civs are different

in the civ 7, there is different concept, you can select leaders and select civs

unlike in civ 6, you can pair leaders with any civs in civ 7

but yeah, if they got rid of great people, then that was ought to happen

[ebon orchid]

https://fxtwitter.com/CivGame/status/1869119118928191949?t=9VgzuOducOszP5ncy79rzg&s=19

[neon scroll]

tfw it says trilogy and it's 2-4

[slate thorn]

Well, they're not wrong

:P

[glass knot]

great games and re3

which is fine

love re4r

[glass knot]

oh yeah celeste got one too

I remembered Hades but forgot about Celeste getting one

Celeste my beloved

Such a great game

got my little cousin to play that and hollow knight and he loved it

[neon scroll]

I'm way too bad at platformers to even attempt Celeste tbh, but I liked watching people play it (and fail, like, a lot)

[glass knot]

It's great and very accessible even if you're not good at platformers
Difficulty ramp up is really well paced

Really good game

[dusty imp]

celeste has very little room for error, so it ends up just being a puzzle game rather than a puzzle-platformer

im not great at games but i think most people can do the main story levels

some of the bsides and dlc is where it gets stupidly difficult and unfun

it does also have "assist mode", which is basically just cheats but theyre nice about it (its a single player game who cares)

[minor bolt]

crash 4 is the last time i try to 100% a "difficult" platformer

i've never played smb or celeste but crash 4 was utter horseshit

[spiral obsidian]

Has anyone been playing Metaphor recently

[slate thorn]

Yes

[neon scroll]

aN aSsIsT mOdE? aRe yOu eVeN a rEaL gAmEr?

(Reddit & twt comments, probably)

[glass knot]

Actually celeste assist mode is mostly praised

but thats because celeste fans are usually not the kind to be upset about that kinda shit

lmao

[glass knot]

yeah it's mostly about finding solutions

And when you get decent at it there's a lot more creativity involved

because movement is fun and you can be silly sith the dash jump momentum etc

[cinder rivet]

It reminded me of elden ring elitists when I said I used jellyfish summon

Jellyfish goat

[glass knot]

how dare you play the game not doing melee only no spells or ashes like me

[dusty imp]

how dare you suggest that balancing the game around having a cpu controlled clone of yourself is kinda dumb

[stable stratus]

balatro goty ver. but perfectly looped (bc i have to)

https://x.com/SFVIM4n/status/1869116313899323550

@m4ngaming2.bsky.social (@SFVIM4n) on X

My phone died so

Twitter · Dec 17, 2024, 8:23 PM

[placid otter]

https://x.com/screentime/status/1869360462548336876?s=19

ScreenTime (@screentime) on X

CD Projekt RED has confirmed Gwent will be playable in ‘THE WITCHER 4’

Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 12:33 PM

now we talking

[neon scroll]

Gwent but have people sell booster packs in game for gold

[fallow vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q66jf_WKGtk

[smoky imp]

Nice i can ignore Gwent in The Witcher 4 too then

[neon scroll]

smh

[placid otter]

https://x.com/Steam/status/1869464013891059874?s=19

Steam (@Steam) on X

It's finally here!

Your Steam Replay 2024 is now available - check out how many games you played this year, when you played them, and a whole host of Fun and Cool Facts about your playtime this year.

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Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 7:25 PM

cant figure our how to download my image on the app

[neon scroll]

You... just do a screenshot?

So.. PEGI rated Balatro 18

Which is... pretty hilarious, all things considered

https://fixupx.com/CultureCrave/status/1868728383137517952

kek

https://x.com/LocalThunk/status/1868540666869121033

localthunk (@LocalThunk) on X

Just to clear it up - I’m way more irked at the 3+ for these games with actual gambling mechanics for children than I am about Balatro having an 18+ rating

If these other games were rated properly I’d happily accept the weirdo 18+. The red logo looks kinda dope

Twitter · Dec 16, 2024, 6:16 AM

[smoky imp]

Apparently I played 1 game this year

[placid otter]

now im curious what that single game could ever be

[neon scroll]

Hiz a baiter

The only new game in my top 5 is Balatro

[ebon orchid]

||https://fxtwitter.com/SnazzySonic/status/1849191562548236506?t=AifiqYuHcS51-CxhUcMX0g&s=19||

Mephiles just wants to exist? I know a certain someone he could get along that just needs some space

Spoiler is not due anything inappropriate, just game cutscene footage, it's Sonic x Shadow Generations

[cinder rivet]

[neon scroll]

🥧

[smoky imp]

Happens if you're mostly a gacha gamer that plays on phone

[neon scroll]

So... a degenerate

[smoky imp]

Also i didn't really have much time to play and I played more Epic Game store games (bcs they were free)

[cinder rivet]

🤝 gacha gamers and play soulslike

[smoky imp]

Grumpy don't you play Nikke

[cinder rivet]

damn what a callout

[neon scroll]

I never said I was any better

[cinder rivet]

we are all degenerates

[placid otter]

damn, get me outta here

[smoky imp]

One day I will get into Elden Ring 🤝

[neon scroll]

At least I don't play Hoyo games

[smoky imp]

Yeah me neither

At least not anymore

[cinder rivet]

me logging on hsr seeeing hiz online 160 days ago 😔

[placid otter]

the only gacha machine i know is the one in astrobot

[smoky imp]

[neon scroll]

Lake pretending he has never seen a gacha game in his life

[cinder rivet]

i play hsr but i shit on hoyo almost every day

[smoky imp]

Thought of coming back for Fugue but I don't really have motivation for HSR

And I don't like ZZZ really

[ebon orchid]

I had heard some names, did not interest me because it sounds tiring the concepts, albeit it is a classic mobile game concept

[cinder rivet]

me neither
i quit zzz like week after release

[ebon orchid]

I am pissed when i do not get the game presented on the ads in terms of mobile games

I want reality tv i want drama

Not endless match 3s

[smoky imp]

Gacha game ads are often done by 3rd parties which explains why they're ass

[neon scroll]

I really only play Nikke these days gacha wise. I actually like the gameplay loop for the most part, they actually have a really good story, great artwork and music

Not much like most of the gacha slop out there

[ebon orchid]

I like loop by Yves

[smoky imp]

I agree with the Nikke music I listen to some of it

[cinder rivet]

i love arknigths but i promise arknights ads are one of the worst game ads i have ever seen

[smoky imp]

Nothing beats Afterglow

[placid otter]

summoners war the best

[ebon orchid]

I like Viola

[cinder rivet]

thats old af

[smoky imp]

I remember some strange ones

[placid otter]

only one i enjoyed for a while

[jovial wolf]

how to craft in PoE2
https://www.twitch.tv/pohx/clip/OptimisticSucculentRedpandaWOOP-9C-10ZhVRkbLTSwM

[placid otter]

https://fxtwitter.com/EustachePedro/status/1869374549894246520
his passion for flutes is something else wow

oh huh so that is the react ping grumpy mentioned. intresting

[neon scroll]

Yeah, you can (and absolutely should) turn it off

[cinder rivet]

It just works like standard react ping on any social media

[minor bolt]

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/News/Press/202412/24-1219E/

so not buying kadokawa but avoiding a hostile takeover they were worried about

Tokyo, Japan - KADOKAWA CORPORATION ("KADOKAWA") and Sony Group Corporation ("Sony") today signed a strategic capital and business alliance agreement, agreeing to conduct a third-party allotment by KADOKAWA to Sony on January 7, 2025, with Sony acquiring 12,054,100 new KADOKAWA shares for approximately 50 billion yen. With the acquisition of the new shares, Sony will become KADOKAWA's largest shareholder, holding approximately 10% of its shares, including the shares Sony previously acquired in February 2021.

[dusty imp]

fair enough

i guess sony is better than kakao

[placid otter]

cool, iguess this might of been the best solution

[fallow vessel]

well my poison build is a little scuffed

not sure if I should go for the damaging ailments at the bottom or the poison stuff top center or chaos stuff top right

[jovial wolf]

if you're doing bow I would drop the top altogether

and routed to the bow cluster on the right

atm you have 12 travel nodes just to get a to a meh cluster

you could stop the travel under the top center you highlighted and pick low tolerence cluster there

would be different for poisonous conc

[fallow vessel]

I was thinking about going up there because poison is listed as chaos as well

[jovial wolf]

it is

[fallow vessel]

so I thought that grabbing Pure Chaos and Dark Entries might be worth

[jovial wolf]

you have right idea if you want to do poisonous conc honestly

[fallow vessel]

I'm not sure what that is

[jovial wolf]

it's one of the ascendancy skills on pathfinder

you throw bottles with poison at stuff

and you don't care for weapon passives if that's you main skill

[fallow vessel]

I was going for the double poison on the ascendency

not sure how good putting 8 poison on someone is gonna be

[jovial wolf]

it probably can work somehow

[fallow vessel]

like if the number even though it's high isn't going to be multiplying an underwhelming amount of damage

[jovial wolf]

the thing is is that if you're going with skills that use weapon that means that weapon passives scale you too

and atm it's kinda feelycrafty about what scales you better

what I am sure is that you will need some defensive cluster in time, you may have to think around that too

probably acrobatics and evasion stacking would be the end goal

if you hover over a passive on the tree and press shift, it will show you effects it has on you skills

[fallow vessel]

it doesn't seem to work with the poison stuff though

like if I hover over magnitude it says that nothing is affected

[jovial wolf]

sadge

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/vampire-survivors-f699a1#Vampire-Survivors

any epic gamers?

[smoky imp]

huh i didn't expect this game

[cinder rivet]

shouldnt have bought it year ago 😔

[placid otter]

why, it is so cheap and worth every cent

[cinder rivet]

i was being sarcastic
it was like 3 bucks

[neon scroll]

I even bought it twice

No regrets there

(Once on mobile)

[cinder rivet]

isnt mobile one free?

[neon scroll]

Only if you don't want the extra scenarios and stuff if I recall correctly

Which is completely fair

[placid otter]

steam winter sale is live

[neon scroll]

On a quick glance I don't see anything I want, but I'll check in more detail tomorrow

[bitter portal]

New secret level eps is out

Gonna be a banger evening

[glacial hamlet]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/582660/Black_Desert/

black desert is free rn

[cinder rivet]

https://x.com/IGN/status/1869778746359545904

IGN (@IGN) on X

Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown is an excellent return to the series’ 2D roots with a smart blend of the old and new, that's why it's our choice for the best action/adventure game of 2024.

See the full list of nominees here and remember to tune in on Friday at 7am PT when we

Twitter · Dec 19, 2024, 4:16 PM

[slate thorn]

Hey, it's the game Ubishit threw in the trash because they didn't like it

[dusty imp]

standard ubisoft montpelier W followed by an L

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/astrea-six-sided-oracles-33c949#Astrea-Six-Sided-Oracles

ussualy dont share the freebies here, but since it is the daily freebies might aswel. epic ussualy gives away good ones

[fallow vessel]

got to the cruel difficulty in PoE2

took me 33 deaths

[cinder rivet]

im very new to the game but i guess i found main already

[bitter portal]

watched some twitch stream for the marvel rivals drop, turns out i had the open beta test key, i could've been playing marvel rivals for months now what the heck

[bitter portal]

https://discord.com/channels/482594344390623240/1314588610963570728 there's a marvel rivals thread here

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/terratech-02ab0a#TerraTech

[fallow vessel]

hmmm

ok what the hell is this placement

[minor bolt]

time to replay jak 1 twice for two more platinums

[minor bolt]

forgot how miserable these controls were

[placid otter]

https://x.com/Palworld_EN/status/1870816559540920507

Palworld (@Palworld_EN) on X

Just a little taste of what is to come...
Meowmere from #Terraria makes its way to #Palworld in the December update!⚔️
Full collab happening in 2025!👀
A new adventure awaits, filled with the sounds of cats meowing!😺✨

Twitter · Dec 22, 2024, 1:00 PM

this is so funny

[neon scroll]

Watch palworld just collecting pals from every other indie game in collabs

[stable stratus]

they might get Vampire Survivors collab without realizing

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/wizard-of-legend-21c07d#Wizard-of-Legend

[fallow vessel]

hmmm

[neon scroll]

https://fixupx.com/fiq_D_flover/status/1871154140916990359

Future T1 member

[slate thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZxOuc9Qwk

This is one of the most insane stories I've seen in a while

[minor bolt]

45 inch trinitron wtf

i have a 42 inch oled next to me, that must be a monster

[minor bolt]

that facebook group shitpost lmfaooooo

banger video

[slate thorn]

The plottwist of who the random guy is that helped him

The whole story with the first owner

Absolute cinema

[stable stratus]

https://youtu.be/o8SEIFZEYM0

[cinder rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1oMAMisgE

[cinder rivet]

@neon scroll https://vxtwitter.com/StellarBlade/status/1871234424584679424

[neon scroll]

Yeah, I saw. + finally new Rapi AND a Naga gacha costume. Bleeding me dry.

[cinder rivet]

i knew it gonna happen one day

but didnt expect it to be so soon

[neon scroll]

Swiping like a good little paypig

[cinder rivet]

[slate thorn]

[neon scroll]

Only upside is I never really need to swipe to get new characters any more, I'm mostly self sustained on that front

Costumes though...

[slate thorn]

Costumes

[cinder rivet]

i have the same in arknights

[slate thorn]

Oh you want a nice skin? That will be €50 thank you

[neon scroll]

Yeah, pretty much

[cinder rivet]

i can not pull unit for like year but my acc is so stacked it will be up to date even then

[neon scroll]

Although arguably even the standard Nikke skins are pretty nice

[slate thorn]

They are good yeah

[neon scroll]

But Naga special costume? Naga??? come on now.

[slate thorn]

So often a really nice skin releases, and I'd love to get it. But I don't have the character lol

[cinder rivet]

idk why in gacha games skins cost as much as some old but gold triple a games
meanwhile for example in league skins cost like $10 (the basic ones)

[slate thorn]

I lob Naga, what does the skin look like

[neon scroll]

I'll post it when they post more than the partial preview

That update goes live on new year, so we'll get that in a couple days

[slate thorn]

I'm currently stuck at needing to do dailies as I'm too weak to continue the story 😔

[neon scroll]

Normal story is very easy for me at this point, but I'm arguably a whale. Not a big one like the maniacs who buy every stat boost in existence mind you, but definitely not a dolphin any more.

[slate thorn]

I haven't spent any money on Nikke (yet)

[neon scroll]

And that is the smart thing to do

I'll never say otherwise

[cinder rivet]

using most expensive gacha games currency - patience

[slate thorn]

I wouldn't mind spending some if it's a game I enjoy

[neon scroll]

But hey, I have the disposable income to waste, so fuck it

[slate thorn]

Shift Up has become a dev who I'll gladly give my money to

Oh yeah, I only spend money on stuff if I can afford it :P

[neon scroll]

Actually true though. The only annoying thing (that isn't really their fault) is still some skins getting "censored" in the west

[slate thorn]

😔

With how much effort they put into Nikke, the constant high quality events, and Stellar Blade as well, Shift Up can have my bank account, I'm fine with that

Just wire half of it to Cosmograph thank you

[neon scroll]

It's definitely leagues ahead of the average gacha slop

But even a shiny gacha is still a gacha

[slate thorn]

Which is funny because on the surface it just seems like gooner bait slop :P

[neon scroll]

I mean, it is that, too

[slate thorn]

True true

[neon scroll]

But why else would anyone play these games

No one starts playing these for the gameplay

[slate thorn]

But beneath that there is a lot of good stuff which is neato

[neon scroll]

If that happens to be good they might stay though

As I did

The only thing that will forever suck is arena

[slate thorn]

I came for the hot anime women, stayed for the story, good characters, and the music :^)

[neon scroll]

Yep

[slate thorn]

I just hate that I'm too weak to continue the story! I want to know what happens next! Raaah!!

[neon scroll]

The music is still top notch, the story and characters well written. Even the dumb side events are fun... like half the time

[cinder rivet]

my nier automata experience

[neon scroll]

The only thing they can't write for shit is holiday events

I feel like they just stop trying there

It's like... "Yeah and I guess it's christmas somehow, hoho."

[slate thorn]

I haven't updated the mobile version of the game in a while, I wish it could update in the background 😔

[neon scroll]

(although to be fair the current holiday one actually has pretty meaningful character development for one character, but alas)

It is very easy to spot the events where they clearly were just like "Yeah idfk, this character is cute, who cares"

And you can skip the plot

[slate thorn]

The Modernia skin during the Crown event thingy, forgot the event name. I got Modernia like a day after the event and the skin sale ended lol

I would have loved to get the skin, but getting a skin for someone you don't even have sounds... not smart :^)

Now I have to wait for it to come back 😔

[stable stratus]

LumpyTouch released his Gorefield fangame
https://youtu.be/i-9hIsEsSSo

[smoky imp]

Man John

[slate thorn]

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/classified-fighter-jet-specs-leaked-on-war-thunder-again/

[stable stratus]

lmao

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/dredge-3e3a5f#DREDGE

[cinder rivet]

Free dredge on gog and epic in span of a month

[stable stratus]

boll

[stable stratus]

yea modded run is kinda fun lmao

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/control#Control

[smoky imp]

Control?

I think i got that 1 or 2 years ago for free

[placid otter]

yeah been done before

https://fxtwitter.com/Wario64/status/1871954549688435073

[cinder rivet]

Prime gaming goat

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/ghostrunner-2

[cinder rivet]

Finally sth I didn't have yet

[ornate crypt]

playing PoE2 accidentally pressing escape twice instinctively to close menus closes the game

[neon scroll]

That's... an odd design choice

[placid otter]

thats horrible

[slate thorn]

Quick eject

[cinder rivet]

https://x.com/NieRGame/status/1872523061955866863?t=6N6fP58Q-0BsXVSAF0SXfQ&s=19

NieR Series (@NieRGame) on X

This isn't possible without you ❤️

Twitter · Dec 27, 2024, 6:01 AM

[jovial wolf]

it does not do that in game

escape from login screen exits the game, that's all

[ornate crypt]

yea but you're not supposed to use escape to quit the game. it should be alt-f4

[slate thorn]

I don't think I've ever used alt f4 for something

[ornate crypt]

it was when i logged out into the login screen to fix the settings like if controller or keyboard

i never used escape for exiting an application

especially games

[jovial wolf]

it's pretty standard for login screens

[ornate crypt]

i know it's not too critical because you already went to login screen on your own but for example the instance if inactive lasts for how many minutes only and you took a bit configuring stuff on the settings expecting to return on time to that portal you opened

[slate thorn]

Not really, normally you have to press the close game / exit to desktop / whatever button to close the game, not press esc

[ornate crypt]

for example CS2

alt f4 works if you just want to close it immediately

[slate thorn]

I always close a game through the menu

[jovial wolf]

that's always the safer option, you never know if alt+f4 is handled properly (even if it should be)

but there is literally nowhere to escape from login screen than outside of the game

[neon scroll]

Given the number of games that save on proper exist alt+f4 is risky business these days

[jovial wolf]

shame on games that don't give you exit do desktop option from the ingame menu

[neon scroll]

That's mostly shitty ports

[jovial wolf]

i remember some game that needed you to exit to menu first and when you did that it hit you with the press x to continue bs

[placid otter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAkJl9XLDJU

kinda like the aesthetics of this

https://youtu.be/KQYFjRZfUfE?si=PB7_WXdugY-Medp-

[smoky imp]

oh hey now i have ghostrunner 1 and 2 for free

[placid otter]

https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_dark_eye_chains_of_satinav#The-Dark-Eye-Chains-of-Satinav

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/hot-wheels-unleashed

[fallow vessel]

pain

[slate thorn]

https://www.instagramez.com/p/DEGlM_oT2ab/?img_index=9&igsh=amRsaWd3cms5cjI4

The goat

Much more in post

[ornate crypt]

27 hours in and weirdly, PoE2 is pretty fun even if it's like the same idea every quest

maybe because of the rare drops timings like it makes you feel rewarded from the grind

and leveling is straight forward by just following the quests

[jovial wolf]

it's arpg, the quest are there just to tell you where to go kill stuff next

[ornate crypt]

yea but i thought it would be boring

it kinda is repetitive but with the customizations and drops it makes it kinda fun

[dusty imp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/s/dmPZv28Odx

title: [My son was born last week, he was conceived to the balatro theme song]

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/kill-knight-e981b3

[stable stratus]

he is born with the [Let's Go Gambling1!!1!] innate skill

[woven sparrow]

Anybody here plays nier automata?

[jade spruce]

i have it but played just around two hours some time ago

would love to go back at it though

[woven sparrow]

picked up mine to clear my backlogs this year only to get a game over 1 hr in fml

[cinder rivet]

[minor bolt]

[woven sparrow]

[stable stratus]

this is beyond broken

[stable stratus]

...it's been almost an hour

[stable stratus]

thank god it's over

[neon scroll]

Not quite nice.

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/combo-a7e03a#Orcs-Must-Die-3

good thing i didn't buy it last sale

oh wait, it is not even the first time its free

lol

[ornate crypt]

chaos trials it's useless 😔 i feel like evasion is not even doing anything

everyone and their moms are landing all the attacks

also stupid thing about the game is the vaal corrupted altar.... it never said it's a one time thing so i tested it on a stupid armor i looted

[jovial wolf]

It's just a free vaal orb

[ornate crypt]

altar also modifies the equipment for free but one time only

got the orb and modified trash armor and sold it since it's just blue tank armor

[jovial wolf]

it's the same thing, vaal orb has random chance to do several different things

including destroying the item completely

ah, they removed the poofing in 2

• Nothing
• Add one extra socket (exception: caster weapons, rings, belts, amulets cannot roll sockets)
• Reroll the range of 1 or more affixes, changing it within -0.78% to +1.22% (increase or decrease up to 22%)**
• Add a corrupted mod

[ornate crypt]

but it's a free thing early game at least

[jovial wolf]

it's there as a introduction to the mechanic

[ornate crypt]

i think vaal orbs can be farmed later right?

[jovial wolf]

yeah

they are not that rare

[ornate crypt]

yea but would be nice to say it's only possible to use the altar only once as warning but i see that maybe it's the game's way to let you discover what it does

[stable stratus]

https://fxtwitter.com/Sonic_Hedgeblog/status/1873477439860416556

[placid otter]

ah, steams best of 2024 is out. what sold the best

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/redacted-d9d21e#REDACTED

[neon scroll]

btw, Black Desert is free on Steam again, if you just wanna add that to bloat your library you once again can

[slate thorn]

Ah yes, farming simulator :^)

[neon scroll]

Farming money from your pockets

Honestly still mostly useful to make fancy looking characters in character creator

[cinder rivet]

total hours played: 40h
in-game 5 mins
character creator: 39h 55 mins

[stable stratus]

can't discord rn

[glass knot]

calculating

[stable stratus]

aight still calculating

[neon scroll]

Sorta on you for modding it to hell tbh

I prefer vanilla Balatro

Game is perfect as is

[rose nova]

Thinking of returning to BF4

is the online scene still alive?

Looking at reddit, seems so

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/sifu#Sifu

sifu free nice

[slate thorn]

BF4 is in a rough shape for years now

I hope you enjoy playing Lockers, otherwise it's just bot lobbies and hackers

[placid otter]

https://x.com/thegameawards/status/1874194670554845468

The Game Awards (@thegameawards) on X

Nintendo will make an announcement about the successor to Nintendo Switch in the next 3 months, by March 31, 2025.

Twitter · Dec 31, 2024, 8:43 PM

finally

2025 just hit and am already stuck doing dailies

[dusty imp]

ragnarok winning steam deck game is the most confusing thing ever

thought that was balatro lock-in for sure

[placid otter]

yeah am also very confused there

also do not think a steam deck can do that game justice

[placid otter]

https://fxtwitter.com/TangoGameworks/status/1874259495783981205?s=19

nice

was weird for them to have been shutdown

[neon scroll]

It was the random "We had exactly one successful game that people liked this year! Unfortunately they didn't like it hard enough, so we had to close them down." moment

Made no sense whatsoever, especially with them in the same breath opting to do less big scale games and more somewhat smaller scale things

[stable stratus]

no balatro smh

[minor bolt]

https://fixupx.com/CentroLeaks/status/1874329588639121674

wild if it ends up coming true

[cinder rivet]

2018 tech 💀

[slate thorn]

I mean, the Switch also released with like 2012 tech so it is pretty in line

Average Nintento moment

They haven't been competitive tech wise since the like N64

As long as they have the library of Alexandria worth of exclusive games, they can afford to not care about console performance as people will buy it nonetheless

[stable stratus]

https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1874334645388730580?t=PZ28HEQGtNS00Of9aLOfmg&s=19

tobyfox (@tobyfox) on X

Twitter · Jan 1, 2025, 5:59 AM

[stable stratus]

https://youtu.be/xKoMDMiEe0s

[minor bolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P8v09ywoss good video

[placid otter]

https://www.gog.com/en/game/vambrace_cold_soul#Vambrace-Cold-Soul

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/kingdom-come-deliverance

[smoky imp]

oh nice

[fair elbow]

Well that's pretty cool

I think my new PC rig is too overpowered just to play DDLC

[placid otter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOrYKHwymIQ a little late, but is just so funny

[stable stratus]

https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1874690254478913966?t=VHqzutM8cjcrJyf1udbLkg&s=19

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) on X

G-Man voice actor Mike Shapiro posts mysterious message for New Years

• His first post in 4 years
• Hopes the future holds some 'unexpected surprises'
• Included hashtags for Half-Life, Valve, and 2025

Twitter · Jan 2, 2025, 5:32 AM

another Half Life spinoff, got it

[neon scroll]

HL3 shadow drop outta nowhere

[stable stratus]

they could've teased it during TGA last year smh

[neon scroll]

Then it wouldn't be a shadow drop

[hazy rune]

what are some rly good games for ps5

i remembered i have one after i let it collect dust sahjdkfd

[neon scroll]

idk, what do you like to play

[hazy rune]

horror games especially

i play just about anything tbh

[neon scroll]

Horror games is honestly more PC territory

[hazy rune]

trueee

[neon scroll]

Anyway, for more recent games.. Astrobot is the obvious answer since it's also an exclusive

If you like platformers it's a "must play", essentially

[dusty imp]

silent hill if you like horror games

biggest one i can think of on console

mouthwashing is pc only for now

[neon scroll]

Oh, those type of horror games.. yeah, I guess you can play some Resident Evil parts on there

[hazy rune]

i am an astrobot hater actually

[neon scroll]

It's cute though. Sadge times. (But makes sense if you're a horror person)

[hazy rune]

it's not even about that, it just didn't click with me when i watched people playing

[neon scroll]

Fair

Other than that honestly most bigger games that were on PC are also on PS5 and vice versa. Like Elden Ring expansion, Palworld, Helldivers 2 if you have friends and wanna defend DEMOCRACY...

Final Fantasy Rebirth, Metaphor and Persona 3 remake if you like JRPG

[hazy rune]

oh my god totally forgot about persona 3 remake

ok i know what to play now

🙏 bless

[neon scroll]

[placid otter]

def not the same when watching. didnt feel any of the emotions it ended up giving me till i played it

[kind night]

Signalis and Crow Country. Much cheaper then any mentioned above

[placid otter]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/hell-let-loose-03f036

[stable stratus]

https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1874493315720073626?t=s3UGhwe5sws2YK7-ojRkjg&s=19

Nintendo Life (@nintendolife) on X

New Patent Seemingly Confirms Nvidia 4K AI Upscaling For Switch 2. https://t.co/1V6otMWDin

Twitter · Jan 1, 2025, 4:30 PM

it can be good or bad depending on the specs this switch uses

[placid otter]

switch 2 is looking to be similar to a ps4 pro

[neon scroll]

Read: laughably outdated, but in Nintendo's case people will say "It's fine, their consoles have never had state of the art tech and still did fine"

On a different note, I did decide to finally pick up Death Stranding (Directors Cut) on winter sale, despite the main gameplay loop being what it is (dreadfulyl boring) to see Kojima do Kojima things

Gotta be ready for Death Stranding II after all, amirite.

So, so weird

[slate thorn]

Since it is a handheld, PS4 Pro performance sounds alright

That said

They can do better

[neon scroll]

It's a pseudo handheld, lbr

[slate thorn]

Yeah, especially considering that

At this point you'd at least expect like Xbox Series S performance from the company who is arguably the god of handheld gaming

But so is Nintendo's design philosophy

Unique selling point + games comes first, console power comes second

Which is both fine and bad, because it does limit your games a lot :(

[neon scroll]

Sure, the problem as per usual is people expecting modern games to have ports to an outdated-at-arrival system

[slate thorn]

Yeah, I'm not asking Nintendo to give me a handheld PS5, but give something on which your first party games all run smoothly without looking like garbage

Because the Switch just can't

I love the Switch, the concept is very neat, it has great games. But it just has so many flaws

[neon scroll]

Just imagine for a second the modern Zelda games on a modern system instead of struggling on the Switch, essentially making its engine smoke

[minor bolt]

iirc botw always played better on the wiiu and its emulator than the switch

at least until switch emulation caught up

[neon scroll]

Something like Steamdecks shows it's definitely possible even for handhelds

[slate thorn]

botw runs incredibly well on emulators compared to the switch

Botw runs better on Steamdeck with an emulator than the Switch yeah

[neon scroll]

Shhhh.... Nintendo game emulators do not exist.

[slate thorn]

With the huge rise in gaming handhelds the past years the only thing Nintendo has going for it now is the exclusive games since they probably won't compete on performance

[neon scroll]

(They're watching, always)

[minor bolt]

they'll be able to compete on battery life for now

since the PC based ones are still x86

[slate thorn]

Yeah but the Switch will most likely be 8nm which is not efficient lmao

[neon scroll]

Tbh I have no idea what the steam deck battery life is like

[slate thorn]

Everyone and their dog was expecting Nintendo to go 4nm lmao

[minor bolt]

arm on 8nm is still efficient, its just not as efficient as it can or should be

[slate thorn]

Because that's the logical thing

[minor bolt]

its not like comparing arm to x86

[slate thorn]

This is 8nm handheld remember

So it's going to be even sillier in terms of efficiency

[minor bolt]

yeah but my point is that its not as if your phone from 6 years ago has a battery life of 3 hours like a steamdeck

all it means is that you might get 6 hours out of the switch2 vs 9 hours if it were on a newer process

[slate thorn]

But yeah, the fact that they go with 8nm when 4nm would be the most logical option is just.....

[minor bolt]

tbf half the problem is probably nvidia focusing more on ai stuff than tegra

[slate thorn]

It's just silly buying a brand new product that in all regards is basically nearly a decade behind already

[neon scroll]

And will be, for its specs, vastly overpriced

[slate thorn]

That said, I will probably get the Switch 2 if it has games I'm interested in

[neon scroll]

I mean...

[minor bolt]

ill be waiting to see how pokemon za runs before i get one

[slate thorn]

Or well, assuming they won't be releasing new games for the Switch 1 ofc

[neon scroll]

That's easy to tell in advance. Do you like [Insert mainline Nintendo franchise here]?

Shockingly it will have a Mario, a Zelda and Pokémon slop

[slate thorn]

Fire Emblem

[neon scroll]

Unless anyone believes Pokémon will evolve due to Palworld putting on the pressure

(I don't)

[slate thorn]

Maybe we'll get a new Mario Kart, the current one is from what, 2016 or something?

2014

[neon scroll]

Didn't they just put out a remake

Eat your recycled slop

[slate thorn]

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the 2017 version which is the same but with more content and dlc's :^)

So yeah, the last mario kart is basically 10 years old now

[neon scroll]

Eat. The. Slop.

On a serious note, the funniest part of them recycling their old games is still people readily paying full price for it

[minor bolt]

remakes/masters being full price is whatever

its more that they never discount old games

[slate thorn]

Yeah, it's again a Nintendo thing and also a cultural thing. A game's value is decided by how much fun it is

[neon scroll]

But their remasters are pretty... well, shit.

[slate thorn]

An old game is still as much fun back then as today

So the price remains the same

• Some guy at Nintendo

[cinder rivet]

A lot of asian games remain their prices for very long time
Not just nintendo

[slate thorn]

It's just part of the game dev mentality there

Lowering the price would mean lowering the value of the enjoyment

Anyways, I will very gladly pay full price for Twilight Princess on the Switch

Where is it Nintendo, I know you have it

[cinder rivet]

Ig they don't take into account that games earns like 90% of their money in first few years after release (except things like gta5) so lowering price after few years actually gives more profit bc more ppl will be willing to buy that game and try it out

[slate thorn]

It just goes against the cultural mentality thing so they don't do that

[neon scroll]

Does it really though. Everything else gets discounted as it gets older, be it music, anime/movies etc.

I don't buy into this whole "it's a cultural thing" argument when it's really just games

[cinder rivet]

U have witcher 3 with dlcs for $10
And u have 2012 asian game for $30
U think what players gonna buy

[neon scroll]

Depends if they're Nintendo fanbois

[slate thorn]

It really just is the game dev / publishing mentality there, especially for Nintendo

That was how it was explained to my by people working at Nintendo at least

Nintendo Japan basically controls everything, and any country or region subsidiary can only do something after approval from Japan. In terms of game pricing, it also all comes from the Japan office, and as for why Nintendo games basically never go on discount, have promotions, lower in price over time, it's all due to the mentality of how a game should be valued

Nintendo really likes sticking to old ideals, even if they don't really work anymore

[neon scroll]

See, that's already different from calling it a "cultural thing". Has nothing to do with that, it's just business practices that they never felt the need to change because it doesn't get punished by their fanbase for some reason

[slate thorn]

No, it is a cultural thing

Like, culture doesn't per se refer to a culture of a country or such

Culture can refer to a working culture, group culture, etc

[neon scroll]

It does when you use it on its own

[slate thorn]

In this case it refers to the Japanese game dev culture

[neon scroll]

Essentially implies "Japan just be like that"

[slate thorn]

Basically

It's very traditional Japanese game dev culture to think like that about game value

[neon scroll]

Which for all intents and purposes is nonsense in anything but gaming and even there it's far from a universal truth

It's really just Nintendo.

[slate thorn]

Nowadays yes

[neon scroll]

Konami, Sega, Square etc all have discounts on their games all the fucking time

[slate thorn]

Because other companies grow up

Like I said

Nintendo likes to stick to old ideals

Nintendo likes to stay in the past whilst other companies adapt

Which is why they cling on to that reasoning. They've done that since the olden days so why change now?

The other companies around us that changed must be the ones that are wrong

But yeah, it is very much a cultural thing

Which everyone but Nintendo has moved away from

Or well, there's others, but they only do domestic stuff, zero international operations :P

Like, there's plenty of Japan only games that a century later are still full price

Just like Call of Duty

[neon scroll]

CoD has been on a million discounts

[slate thorn]

Well yeah but the part where without discount some of them are still full price despite the age

Like, Black Ops 2 without discount is still the same price I paid for it 12 years ago

And with it going on sale for 20 like every single month, why not just drop the price to 20 permanently?

I'm sure there's probably some reason, but I just don't see it

[neon scroll]

Because some people are idiots

[slate thorn]

And I guess a sale for 20 sounds more attractive than regular price of 20

It's on sale so I have to get it

Oh well

Videogames are silly and I should go to sleep

[placid otter]

would love to play pokemon games againg if they ever got good againg, but with how little i touched the switch, prob smarter not to buy a new one

[stable stratus]

https://fxtwitter.com/RexRobotdude/status/1874836229063328163

[neon scroll]

Ah yes, it's not like Atlus have done this with every single game they have ever released (that had a bare minimum of success)

What a brave guess!

Truly the scoop of a century

[glass knot]

atlus would nevr do that

[stable stratus]

if notch wants the playerbase's take on it, sure

but minecraft is already good as it is

Minecraft 2 before Half Life 3-

[stable stratus]

https://youtu.be/_2Y9iDkJWE0?si=8mk4FIcM-j48GRKl

[minor bolt]

you just know this shit is gonna cost like $2k

[slate thorn]

The fact that the 5080 will have 16gb is just a pathetic joke at this point

Going to be like $1500 and you're getting mid range levels of vram

[minor bolt]

i saw a thread about that

was going into how they currently use 2gb vram chips

so everything can only be in multiples of 2 or something like that

whereas 3gb chips are becoming available sometime this year which would enable 24gb

[slate thorn]

I believe 3gb chips have been readily available for a while already no?

[minor bolt]

im not too sure, i think it was referring to samsung who have had their own issues with fabs

like how apple has all of tsmc's 2nm bought out so nvidia is having to go with samsung for 3nm and theyre struggling with that

[slate thorn]

Also, doesn't the 7900 XT have 20GB?

If AMD can put 20GB in a card why can't Nvidia? Oh right, because monopoly position so if you want more than 16GB you better pay 2k+

[minor bolt]

oh it might be because its gddr7

amd doesnt use that yet

[placid otter]

we are at 7 already? wow

[dusty imp]

the radeon cards do have wider buses iirc

its at 7 cause amd are dicks and they skip numbers to one-up nvidia

[slate thorn]

But yeah, it's just stupid. The 5080 is probably going to age like milk because of that 16gb

[minor bolt]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-may-release-the-rtx-5080-in-24gb-and-16gb-flavors-the-higher-vram-capacity-will-come-in-the-future-via-3gb-gddr7-chips

All this comes thanks to the GDDR7 standard and its new capacity options. GDDR7 will be the first graphics memory solution to offer capacities beyond 2GB per IC, with potential of 3GB variants coming in the future
With 3GB ICs, the RTX 5080 would be able to offer 24GB of VRAM without adding or reducing the memory chip count, enabling it to retain its 256-bit wide interface.

makes sense

[dusty imp]

insert jensen quote: nvidia is an ai company blah blah blah

tldr; they want you to buy 50

[slate thorn]

Oh well, I'm probably just going to buy the... checks notes "RX 9070 XT"

I think I've said it before. Why does amd do this? Right as they are about to have a recognizable product name due to using it several generations, they change their entire naming scheme

[minor bolt]

im considering an upgrade but im not sure if i need to do a full new build or not

still on 5600x

but, i'm on 1440p rather than 1080p, so i'm thinking it's gonna be fine for a bit longer?

[jovial wolf]

it will age completely fine

why would developers target more than 16GB

the consoles can't handle it

[minor bolt]

yeah devs still target the ps5 for the most part and that only has 16gb shared

realistically its more like 10-12 being used as vram

[slate thorn]

Do consoles do native 4k yet?

[jovial wolf]

rarely

[placid otter]

it can, but mostly is just upscaling

[dusty imp]

4k30 is definitely possible

[placid otter]

well not even mostly, but like majority 99% is just upscaled

[dusty imp]

but theres no reason to do that instead of upscaling

[slate thorn]

Right, so basically it's going to be like 1080p upscaled to 4k

[jovial wolf]

or 1440p, yeah

[placid otter]

think it is 1440p upscaled

[slate thorn]

Which is a lot less demanding than native 4k

[jovial wolf]

or something in between if the devs are feeling kinky

[slate thorn]

If you're getting a 5080, you probably game at 4k, or 1440p 165+

[jovial wolf]

native 4k is not market the devs will target

1440p will be completely fine with the 16

[placid otter]

with how well things still look i don't see why they would either

[slate thorn]

currently with 8GB, I am running into vram limitations in almost every newer game I've played

So I can see 16GB at 4k being an issue in a couple of years

[placid otter]

the steam system survey just started, wodner if results are out yet

[slate thorn]

And a 1500 card for 1440p is just... man

[placid otter]

isn't the main point of the bigger cards for jobs instead of gaming?

or just raytracing

[slate thorn]

Putting 16 on the 5080, with how expensive it's going to be, is just a scummy move from nvidia