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#General Chat
warm pumice
sounds extra
pearl cobalt
MH Wilds beta is up again!
fair elbow
Me using Steam's system survey to find out which hardware to buy 
67% still use Intel, a little surprising considering all the praise I've been hearing about AMD
And 11% still use the 3060 over the 4060 with 8% 
digital crane
gotta remember that a lot of casual gamers dont give a shit about whats good or bad or worth it
otherwise amd would have lot larger numbers
both cpu and gpu wise
placid otter
https://x.com/Wario64/status/1852188011380801781?s=19
passed 450k
neon scroll
https://x.com/IGN/status/1852172731325849864?s=19
Ye, shit or no this was always going to happen
slate thorn
Me using Steam's system survey to find out which hardware to buy <:KEKW:65392672...
How many people even do that survey? I never do it
So none of my pc's are taken into the rankings
minor bolt
its automatic isnt it
slate thorn
No
slate thorn
They ask you if you want to take part in the steam hardware survey, and I always say no
minor bolt
i guess ive never been asked to fill it out then lol
slate thorn
Also intel being most popular makes sense considering the majority of people don't build their own pc's. And most pre built systems are intel, especially if they're a little older
placid otter
aren't majority of laptops intel?
slate thorn
Brand new ones, pretty even split I'd say. A little older mostly intel
My laptop is intel. I would've liked amd but the intel variant was cheaper so...
placid otter
amd just recent then. so what ppl have at home and use def mostly intel then
minor bolt
intel being on top for so long means they're still gonna be the go-to for a lot of people
slate thorn
Amd has only been really good in the laptop game with the past like 2 or so generations, starting with 5000
minor bolt
i only swapped over to amd myself with the 5600x
placid otter
tbf, understanding i3-i5-i7 is way easier than amd wording
slate thorn
Not really
minor bolt
ryzen has the same
slate thorn
Intels naming is a fucking joke
minor bolt
ryzen 3, 5, 7
slate thorn
Same for amd
placid otter
i know my dad only looked at that instead of everything that was behind it
placid otter
he would say a gen1 i5 is better than any i3 
slate thorn
All pathetic companies trying to do everything they can to confuse their customers
Also i3 i5 i7 is eol
They no longer exist
minor bolt
obligatory ltt video about amd branding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3jDxPXZuPE
slate thorn
They have one as well on intel, and one on nvidia
Because they all have the most disgusting predatory naming schemes
Nvidia releasing a 3050 that's like 50% slower than other 3050's but they still give it the same name 😎
minor bolt
oh yeah the nvidia one was more about their rebadging https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoPfkaSKIVo
slate thorn
oh yeah the nvidia one was more about their rebadging https://www.youtube.com/wa...
Which goes back a long long way
Releasing products under the same name but with different performance
Especially in laptops
placid otter
Nvidia releasing a 3050 that's like 50% slower than other 3050's but they still ...
oh yeh, that was actually insane
slate thorn
Where a laptop 4060 can be faster than a laptop 4080 depending on the tgp
But instead of putting the tgp in the name or something it's hidden away or not even known
They all suck, I hate all of them
But alas, not much other choice besides these three for computer stuff :P
minor bolt
intel gpus will work out some day!!!
slate thorn
They have some good budget options actually
Now that they've aged a bit and prices have dropped intel is actually very valid for either low profile gaming or budget gaming if you don't want to buy used
Or some workstation stuff as the cards have decent amount of vram
9800X3D releasing next week, curious to see if that will create any shifts in prices of other cpu's or if it'll flood the market with more used stuff
minor bolt
i've been tempted to upgrade lately
since i got this 1440p display, my system sometimes struggles to maintain 180~ fps in some games
even league on low for some reason
slate thorn
What gpu do you have?
slate thorn
I play league on max graphics, not sure what fps I have as I haven't played in a while
minor bolt
i might go for a 5080 or something, but i think id need a new psu since i only got a 650w
with league i have a feeling its a cpu thing rather than gpu as having u.gg tanks my shit
slate thorn
Most definitively. And I guess your psu probably also isn't atx 3.0 / 3.1
minor bolt
some shitty corsair cx
slate thorn
Which is very much needed to deal with modern gpu powerspikes
slate thorn
But yeah, I've been thinking about upgrading too, my cpu is getting old
Still not sure if I want to upgrade gpu yet. Like, I can play everything I want. But I do notice in newer games that I have to turn down the graphics a lot, run out of vram, etc
I'm just not entirely sure whether I should go for am5, or just upgrade to ryzen 5000
slate thorn
That's because the 4080 has been replaced with the 4080 super
It's been dead for like years or something
minor bolt
theres 4080 supers for 2100, while i could get a 4070 for 1050
not sure literally double the price is worth
even 4070 super for 1200
placid otter
no chance
slate thorn
4070 is also dead
Since it's been replaced with the super
Do you care about raytracing or cuda?
minor bolt
rt is nice but tbh i just play esports games
slate thorn
Because in that case a 7900 XT could be interesting as well
placid otter
most of those dont even rlly use RT that much
minor bolt
does amds shadowplay equivalent still suck balls
placid otter
dlss still way better though
placid otter
those are way in the minority
slate thorn
Fsr 3.0 is mostly solid
placid otter
and seems to be mostly those supported by amd. like those releasing with fsr and without dlss
minor bolt
im mostly all about high framerates
so perhaps amd with good raster for the price is worth looking into
slate thorn
If it's big console releases then fsr is better than dlss usually as they're made around it
placid otter
i never check my fps, but am still doing really good in almost everything on my 3070 on high settings
slate thorn
What resolution?
minor bolt
maybe by the time deadlock releases for real, itll be optimized and i wont need to upgrade 
placid otter
What resolution?
1440p
placid otter
only game i had to do 1080p so far is black myth wukong
jovial wolf
if you don't know your fps you don't know if you struggle 
slate thorn
Have to turn down the graphics a lot and vram issues in newer games
slate thorn
only game i had to do 1080p so far is black myth wukong
Yeah welcome to newer games
UE5 on the 3070 is rough
placid otter
if you don't know your fps you don't know if you struggle <:gowonsmart:590364007...
not wrong i dont rlly care aslong as i hit like 75-90+, but don't even know that :p
minor bolt
if you don't know your fps you don't know if you struggle <:gowonsmart:590364007...
but my eyes can tell its not 120+ 😔
slate thorn
All the UE5 games I've tried so far I've had to turn down to medium, RT off, DLSS balanced to be like 60 fps with drops here and there
jovial wolf
i am more sensitive to consistent frame times than fps
placid otter
does monster hunter wilds have a benchmark? i could try if so
slate thorn
but my eyes can tell its not 120+ 😔
Do you use gsync? If your monitor supports it ofc
minor bolt
yeah vrr and all that
slate thorn
It's so nice, your fps can dip and you barely notice
minor bolt
i can still notice when something drops under 120
140-180 or so is the spot where it gets harder to notice
placid otter
i honestly dont think i can see 120
slate thorn
Hm, for me it's only noticeable when I turn off gsync
minor bolt
ive played at an almost locked 240hz for years now
so anything 1/2 of that is very noticeable
slate thorn
I'd like to get 100+ fps at all times, after all I have a 144hz monitor to it'd be a waste to not use those hz :P
But at this point with the 3070 I'm starting to have to settle for 60+
Partly I suppose because my cpu is uh, silly
Goofy little guy
placid otter
what is a good game i can really quickly test out my fps rn
slate thorn
But for gpu I'll wait for the rtx 5000 and rx 8000
placid otter
i'd love to upgrade, but very expensive and im still fairly satisfied as is
slate thorn
Rtx 4000 and rx 7000 are just not worth it. So much money for like a pretty tiny upgrade
jovial wolf
what is a good game i can really quickly test out my fps rn
what you have installed?
placid otter
what you have installed?
i can install anything within an hour so just say it
otherwise
slate thorn
Cyberpunk 
placid otter
cyberpunk is on ps5 
slate thorn
Smh
placid otter
it was 5$ cheaper!
slate thorn
The $5 more on pc allows you to mod the game 
jovial wolf
giving up mod support for 5$, smh
minor bolt
must play the game the way god intended
placid otter
if its not minecraft or terraria i couldn't care less for modding
jovial wolf
i mean you can test your fps in metaphor
slate thorn
must play the game the way god intended
Cdpr endorse modding and give their full support for it so it is the way its intended :^)
jovial wolf
just turn on the steam counter
jovial wolf
settings -> in game
slate thorn
I believe I pre-ordered cyberpunk on the day pre-orders went live for like €20 because the store had this coupon I could use on everything 
placid otter
assuming alot heavier than metaphor would be
neon scroll
Switching out Intel for AMD is like cutting off your left leg because you're limping with your right one
slate thorn
I mean bo6 is just heavy because it's poorly optimized
placid otter
still a better benchmark :P
slate thorn
Switching out Intel for AMD is like cutting off your left leg because you're lim...
Wdym?
neon scroll
Both are shit, but AMD is worse.
minor bolt
we're not in the bulldozer era anymore old man
slate thorn
How come?
minor bolt
ryzen cpus are good and have been for years at this point
slate thorn
Intel has not been relevant for several generations now because they just can't keep up with amd
jovial wolf
maybe he likes it warm and cozy
slate thorn
13th and 14th gen are a joke with their design flaws and power draw, and the newest cpu's can barely compete with amd whilst drawing more power as well
The newest ones, core ultra. They're not bad by any means
They're good. They're just worse than what amd has to offer unless you have a very specific workload
And even then you're probably still better off with amd due to pricing stuff
slate thorn
Like sure the 7 Ultra is faster in adobe suite than the Ryzen 7, but if for the same price as the 7 Ultra you can buy a Ryzen 9 that in turn is faster in adobe and consumes the same or less power, well, easy choice
slate thorn
changed it to 1440p for this
Yeah that vram man
Nvidia should stop putting the bare minimum of vram in their gpu's
minor bolt
oh thats the other thing that does my head in with my 4060
i cant watch a video at the same time as playing a game
or else my framerate tanks hard
placid otter
i cant watch a video at the same time as playing a game
the one reason i lowerd everything to normal graphical settings in bo6 is this
minor bolt
i shouldnt need to turn off hardware accel just to multitask a 1080p video
slate thorn
That sounds weird yeah
I don't have any issues watching video and playing game at the same time
Maybe your ram is getting full?
jovial wolf
i have the opposite trouble with some games, the video tanks
minor bolt
dunno, its weird. the video will stutter hard and game fps tanks
placid otter
same settings 1080p. both benchmarks had frame generation turned off
slate thorn
Or it's too much for your cpu
minor bolt
it wont be system ram since i have 32gb and its never full even with wsl running my work stuff
cpu shouldnt really be a factor when hardware accel is on, when its off yeah the video decoding is pushed off to the cpu instead
slate thorn
I guess if the game has the gpu at around 100% then putting on a video might push it over the edge
minor bolt
league on low really shouldnt be doing that
it wouldnt surprise me if it was just an arc browser thing. massive piece of shit in the performance department
slate thorn
Hm yeah, I guess you can try different browsers
placid otter
everything a setting lower didn't change much
minor bolt
ive become accustomed to how arc handles vertical tabs and now i cant switch to anything else :/
zen is close but it doesnt do bookmarking the same
slate thorn
I'm just another chrome user
minor bolt
vertical tabs on a 1440p display works really well
placid otter
everything a setting lower didn't change much
im not all that familiar with vram. would it have impacted this in anyway?
like vram alone not considering anything else
minor bolt
probably not, you didnt max out
vram becomes an issue when you max it out and it needs to swap things in and out, which puts more pressure on your cpu
placid otter
ah okay
slate thorn
Even if you don't max out it can spike at moments causing in frame drops
If you're close to the max
placid otter
ussualy i do got chrome open with twitch, but closed all tabs for benchmark
slate thorn
Because that's what would happen to me in Forza, Fragpunk, First Descendant, Resident Evil, the list goes on
warm pumice
placid otter
stalker 2 req
fallow vessel
cinder rivet
finally
slate thorn
cinder rivet
latent mantle
everything a setting lower didn't change much
ye it runs like shit
in MWIII the game runs well into the 300s with the same settings in 1080p but in BO6 it's in the low 200s if not just 180
all that streaming, filtering, etc bullshit for "fidelity"
I am on a poopy monitor my friend. Why the fuck do I need such large textures??
slate thorn
Because they are lazy and can't be bothered adding compression
They can literally cut the texture sizes and stuff in half without losing any graphical fidelity. But that requires extra work and doesn't bring in any money so why bother
fallow vessel
stable stratus
neon scroll
warm pumice
https://youtu.be/ZlxIMlaQxww?si=gYF9FQ_IKnULwvg1
I’m looking at some of the reviews and people aren’t recommending it if you’re a dragon age fan because it doesn’t feel like it but as a rpg game it’s fun
Overall 5/10 as Dragon Age game and 8/10 as a rpg game
Dialogue is mentioned a lot and it’s pretty weak
Not a darker tone
neon scroll
Fun as in "lowest common denominator brain off rpg" fun, unfortunately
warm pumice
And people are giving inquisition another chance
warm pumice
Fun as in "lowest common denominator brain off rpg" fun, unfortunately
Yeah
A brainrot game pretty much
placid otter
the difference of those playing vs those not playing
neon scroll
Are we pretending "mostly positive" is good now
placid otter
76% perfectly fine
neon scroll
Sure, bud
Bad Dragon Age game + mid RPG doesn't equal good to me. At that point just go replay BG3 instead. 
placid otter
haven't even finished 2nd chapter
neon scroll
See, plenty things to do in a much better and prettier game. 
warm pumice
haven't even finished 2nd chapter <:KEKW:762561698002763787>
Wait really? That felt the shortest chapter
placid otter
i just got bored after 40h of story telling
warm pumice
i just got bored after 40h of story telling
BG3?
placid otter
yeh
digital crane
im about 70% of the way through metaphor, really strong contender for being my personal goty
its just peak atlus jrpg
wispy gate
I played the bo6 campaign and boy the last mission
dusty imp
.shocked
stable stratus
the permanent one is definitely huge
placid otter
Twitter
digital crane
dear god i fucking love ||junah||
actually the best character in the game
metaphor already has a stacked ass cast
not to mention her ||songstress|| design in cutscenes is sooooo pretty
jovial wolf
can't spell ||junah|| without ||una||
personally i liked ||eupha|| just a tiny bit more
the ||summons|| were cool af
slate thorn
I like all of them 
jovial wolf
Hulkenberg my favourite epicurean
slate thorn
They're all so 
I'm nearing the end of the game, I think, I assume. And I don't want it to end 😔
Stellar Blade was my goty, but Metaphor probably has changed that
digital crane
same, just beat ||rella|| so i think im close
digital crane
breaking bad reference?
placid otter
mass effect expedition? cool
slate thorn
Normandy
pearl cobalt
they do replay of past expeditions at the end of the year. think the 2nd half of Worlds update will be early next year
smoky imp
oh nice
jovial wolf
is that with phantom liberty?
smoky imp
seperate
neon scroll
Just wait for Fall sale
jovial wolf
the way it's structured I would not play it without PL
neon scroll
probably even cheaper then
jovial wolf
yeah
smoky imp
just a few weeks away
neon scroll
doesn't PL play during the main story
It's in its own little area so you can play it whenever, really
neon scroll
Ye, but that's just a normal thing in these open world games
Sometimes you do big quests in orders that make no sense logically
smoky imp
jovial wolf
it's just if you don't even have the main game you may as well just wait for the whole package
hiz still has disco elysium to play anyway
fallow vessel
digital crane
metaphor not having romance is actually a travesty
lmao
and i say this as someone who thinks romance in persona is too forced
minor bolt
palworld posted a response to the nintendo lawsuit
site is down but someone got a screenshot
and then these are the patents https://fixupx.com/sacredguard1an/status/1854838020920267172
fair elbow
all 3 filed post release aswel lol
Nintendo: "I'm suing you for copying this thing"
Palworld: "But this was filed after our game's release"
Nintendo: "nuh uh"
neon scroll
dusty imp
bo6 still installing
neon scroll
He'll get there eventually
glass knot
It'll be done by the time bo7 comes out
warm pumice
metaphor not having romance is actually a travesty
lmao yeah it lowkey hurt lmao
warm pumice
bo6 still installing
sheesh
Hope you like it
I like the game
Stakeout is my favorite map
wide sentinel
slate thorn
I've been playing cod for 16 years, damn
Now the only cod I've really played in the past 500 of those years is BO3 but that's besides the point :^)
jovial wolf
i haven't played cod for 17 years, kek
cinder rivet
i haven't played cod for 17 years, kek
i havent played cod for 26 years
slate thorn
lmao
neon scroll
Amazing
neon scroll
So my GF has been playing Metaphor a lot (I'm letting her have her fun first, that way I can just do a new game+ save game, saves a lot of time in a 180hr game ) and said she likes it more than P5
High praises right there
slate thorn
It's definitively not a 180 hour game :P
I'm starting to reach the end and I have like 50-60 hours now
I'm not sure if I like it more than P5
But it's a really, really, really good game
Characters and story are amazing
neon scroll
Apparently the average is 70-90 hrs
Thing is, my gf is the type of player who uses a no spoiler guide to 100% everything on first playthrough
So 180hrs is pretty realistic in her case
She spent, like, 10 hrs in one dungeon the other day
jovial wolf
there were a lot of posts in similar vein after release
people were not ready for ||dragon's temple||
slate thorn
So 180hrs is pretty realistic in her case <:vivikek:482987254151774208>
Considering the whole game is practically timegated you actually have to try really really hard to get that much time in :P
I'm not going to try and 100% the game as there's plenty of achievements that are just like... I really don't care :P
neon scroll
Pleb
jovial wolf
you can't 100% in single playthrough anyway
slate thorn
As long as I get like max relationship with all the characters and stuff I'm good :)
slate thorn
you can't 100% in single playthrough anyway
Yeah looking at some of the achievements I assumed so as well
Getting close to the end feels sad though, I don't want it to end :(
minor bolt
@slate thorn https://blog.playstation.com/2024/11/11/stellar-blades-nier-automata-dlc-photo-mode-launch-nov-20/
peak
slate thorn
placid otter
cool
slate thorn
And people are gonna be dumb enough to buy it, too
How would you buy an event?
neon scroll
If you believe they're not gonna go and try to sell this to you later like they did with every other of their franchises then I have some swampland to sell to you
slate thorn
It would be nice if they did, then they'd actually have a good game again for once :^)
neon scroll
Kek
placid otter
yoo guess i gotta download this againg
placid otter
<@212896185097125889> https://blog.playstation.com/2024/11/11/stellar-blades-nie...
i can't believe they added a no ponytail option
slate thorn
I'm happy, some of the hairstyles looked a bit weird with ponytail
placid otter
ahh good old kingsrow symetra mei coming
minor bolt
2 winston 2 tracer lucio zen is back on the table
I assume they’ll have zen with his discord orb LOS reverted
bitter portal
epic gaming
slate thorn
Inzoi has a release date finally
28 March 2025
Or well, early access release date
"late 2024 release" my ass 
Well, at least that gives me more time to upgrade my gpu :^)
Also, the game's devs are active on Discord and directly communicating with the players, asking for suggestions, critiques, ideas, opinions on ideas etc. Nice to see :)
slate thorn
They did a public beta of the character creator yeah
neon scroll
But you already own the game... and a PS5
slate thorn
Correct, but for people who don't yet have a ps5, this is one less reason to consider one :P
slate thorn
I guess we'll see once the studio releases a game
jovial wolf
they just have to make it cost lot of gold and casuals buying tokens will take care of that
neon scroll
True
jovial wolf
the furore over the cash shop auction mount was funny, because it cost less than the original that was for gold
placid otter
ppl got no money left after mass buying the new brutosaur
jovial wolf
placid otter
oh its barely been out like 3 and a half months
felt way longer
ah roadmap was released cool
visions revisited good
wonder what drive is
placid otter
oh a direct stream happend. got to watch it
has to be goblin with how its spaced out
jovial wolf
D.R.I.V.E. in Undermine in Patch 11.1 - Customize Stats on a Very Fast New Ground Mount
jovial wolf
... Now, if you're gonna be in cahoots with a goblin cartel, you can't be seen rolling around in anything less than a truly blinged-out ride! So early on, you will earn a vehicle designed just for Undermine - To push the boundaries of locomotion within World of Warcraft.
Undermine was built for speed, with roads designed for driving, which is just as well - Because this cart travels much, MUCH faster than your regular ground mounts.
You can also further adjust your cart's driving characteristics - Do you prefer grip, or do you want to drift more? You want more acceleration (even if it's gonna come at the expense of your top speed)? That's up to you! You can try it all, and rule the streets of Undermine, living your life 440 yards at a time.
placid otter
zone exclusive mount with dragonflying characteristics in mind
if its fun im all for it. opens up a future highway throughout azeroth. maybe even get drive racing
might sub just to see the streets
stable stratus
Twitter
cinder rivet
Correct, but for people who don't yet have a ps5, this is one less reason to con...
tbh i dont even want ps5 anymore
slate thorn
I've seen the digital version go used for sub 300 sometimes
But yeah, with the exclusive library shrinking rather than growing
Tough sell if you already have a different gaming device
minor bolt
ps5 still worth when every other pc game ships with engine stutter
slate thorn
:^)
neon scroll
Consoles are less a matter of "is it worth it because of exclusives" and more a "how do you prefer playing your games"
And there's still plenty people who prefer sitting on their couch playing on their TV
Potentially with friends, but that's optional
Like, not everyone likes to sit at a desk X hrs just to game
minor bolt
people will come back with “just plug your pc into the tv!” completely unironically as if the couch experience isn’t awful even with steam big picture
neon scroll
Yeah, that's... yeah. Lmao
Personally I haven't owned a desktop PC in the last 15+ years. Laptop + console is just superior.
Not gonna get chained to a desk
slate thorn
And there's still plenty people who prefer sitting on their couch playing on the...
For sure
There's some games I buy on console even though they're also on pc
Simply because I enjoy playing them more relaxed on the couch
neon scroll
Ye. Like 100+ hrs long JRPGs
cinder rivet
I've seen the digital version go used for sub 300 sometimes
digital is pointless
slate thorn
Don't worry, you can buy a discdrive for the low price of like uh
100 or whatever sony asks
I fear the day that consoles go full digital :(
neon scroll
I'd never buy the no drive version, simply because I like to have that drive available for the rare occasion I wanna watch something on Bluray/DVD
slate thorn
I buy all my games physical which is why I like having it :P
placid otter
i dont mind buying all digital. i mean look at steam. console is just super chill for singleplayer rpgs
slate thorn
If Stellar Blade isn't nominated for anything I will never forgive Geoff
placid otter
that would go againgst tradition
dusty imp
in geoff's defense, this channel is the only place i see this game mentioned
good year for action game fans
erdtree being a dlc is probably doing a lot of games favours for awards season
placid otter
stellar blade is great, but i dont expect it to be nominated
slate thorn
It has to be nominated for soundtrack
At the very least
And I guess for ?action? game or something alongside Wukong
placid otter
oh yeah soundtrack sure, just not for goty i meant
slate thorn
What else even released this year that's good
Oh yeah, it wont get goty
But it deserves to be nominated for some things
dusty imp
astro bot sweep
placid otter
But it deserves to be nominated for some things
prob stellar blade or wukong wins soundtrack yeah
placid otter
astro bot sweep
hope its on sale on blackfriday. i rlly wanna check it out
placid otter
also technically satisfactory
goated game goty 100%
dusty imp
balatro and animal well are probably gonna take all the indie awards
ufo 50 is pretty good but i think it came out too late in the year to compete
placid otter
ff7rebirth was also this year. personally didnt like it, buy im the odd one
placid otter
Twitter
neon scroll
Forgetting about Palworld and Helldivers 2 already, are we
placid otter
palworld hasnt released
neon scroll
Absolutely massive successes
placid otter
so it wont be counted
slate thorn
https://x.com/Genki_JPN/status/1856706279781372305?s=19
Huge
I'm excited for whatever shift up's next game will be
digital crane
nominees are most likely metaphor, astro bot, rebirth, balatro and two more
maybe any 2 of shadow of the erdtree helldivers wukong yakuza 8 palworld smt v vengeance and zelda but im not too sure
neon scroll
Not a fan of giving an expansion GOTY
slate thorn
It's good, but nothing special
neon scroll
Wukong should honestly at least get a nomination, as should Helldivers
placid otter
wukong my goty 
neon scroll
I doubt either would win, but they should be on the list
neon scroll
Eh
slate thorn
I hope Metaphor wins, but I don't see that happening unfortunately
neon scroll
Maybe nothing in that genre
placid otter
ppl been saying astrobot, but also that game only sold 1.5m copies
placid otter
less ppl tried it out so idk if that many would vote for it
slate thorn
Astrobot will for sure win like family goty and maybe adventure goty if that's a thing
But I don't see it winning general goty
placid otter
Astrobot will for sure win like family goty and maybe adventure goty if that's a...
will it though? apparantly its quite challenging. idek if this has co-op like playroom did
neon scroll
Co-op is overrated
placid otter
playroom was very fun. played it with my sister
slate thorn
Actually the new mario party will probably win family game
neon scroll
Why would it win that. It's just Mario Party, but without the shit ideas from the last few parts
placid otter
can't deny that
slate thorn
Mario like always wins family game award
neon scroll
Meh
placid otter
i'd expect sparking zero to win fighting game
don't think anything else notable came out?
slate thorn
I can't think of any fighting games that released this year
placid otter
seeing alot of ppl thinking silent hill 2 will be nominated for goty
neon scroll
Biggest meh yet
Like, it's decent but turns out better graphics aren't always a boon
placid otter
also forgot about space marine 2. prob not goty nomination, but might be in a couple other nominations
slate thorn
If faker doesn't win esports player of the year I will be angy
dusty imp
tekken 8
neon scroll
Watch CoD snagging it for simply not sucking ass for once
neon scroll
tekken 8
I wanted to mention that but I can't remember if it was late last or early this year
slate thorn
Star Wars Outlaws or whatever that garbage was called will win goty 
placid otter
I wanted to mention that but I can't remember if it was late last or early this ...
december would still count for this year
slate thorn
Yeah, everything released after laft awards right?
placid otter
prob from half november last year onwards
dusty imp
rival of aether 2 more recently too
lot more niche
i played the first one a lot in high school, good game
neon scroll
rival of aether 2 more recently too
I have never even heard of that
slate thorn
Isn't that the Ludwig game?
dusty imp
yeah
they stuck their name on near the end of development
the dunkey strat of game publishing
placid otter
dragons dogma 2 was still this year wow. completely forgot about it
neon scroll
It's been a looooong year
slate thorn
All I can hope for is for metaphor or stellar blade to win, my favorite games this year and have established themselves as some of my favorite games of all time
placid otter
tried watching metaphor, but wasnt looking intresting watching. will have to just try it one day
slate thorn
Oh yeah, Metaphor is not a watching game
neon scroll
And you'd also lack taste, but still
placid otter
If you liked P5, you will like Metaphor.
thats the thing. idk if i should just go do p3reloaded or p4golden first aswel
i loved p5royal
slate thorn
Ah
dusty imp
if an rpg wins its gonna be yakuza or ff7r
neon scroll
P5 was the first modernized formula one
placid otter
Metaphor is the shortest
hearing that is just funny with how long all of them are
slate thorn
shortest at like 80 hours or something
placid otter
think i did p5r around 85~
neon scroll
Metaphor is the shortest
idk, P4 Golden isn't that long cause it has no endless dungeon
placid otter
Did you skip every single cutscene?
would it even pass 20h then?
neon scroll
I said P4Golden
placid otter
ps5 has timers right? i wonder how to find it
slate thorn
If that was a bit unclear
slate thorn
zzz will probably win mobile game
slate thorn
Yeah, all I can think off is skipping all the cutscenes and just sleeping at every moment of free time you get
placid otter
idk how to find time tracker. atleast cant see it on app
slate thorn
Save game time :^)
placid otter
would have to turn on that dusty ps5 and download it
slate thorn
But yeah it took me like 135 hours to finish it and that's by going through it quickly as I had technically already played the game before kinda
slate thorn
P5 took me like 112 hours I think?
dusty imp
could have basically the same shortlist this year
slate thorn
Metaphor I'm at like 60 hours now and nearing the end
So probably going to be like 70-80 hours finish
neon scroll
Metaphor I'm at like 60 hours now and nearing the end
I still call bs on that btw, but we've been over this
slate thorn
I am completing like everything I can and not using any guides
It is a much shorter game than the persona's
The devs themselves said so as well that with Metaphor players should expect a much shorter experience
There is zero bs in the game being like 70-80 hours long
placid otter
aaa so much effort
first got to update controller, now the system software, then gotta log in too
ok trophy list on ps5 showing 112h on p5r 50/53 trophys done
neon scroll
That sounds more like it
digital crane
yeah metaphors a much easier and shorter game than persona on the social side of the game
gameplays a lot harder imo to balance it out
i think it hit just the right balance for me so im hoping it wins
winners are based on like 60% critics and 40% audience votes right?
wukong might have a chance lol
placid otter
besides players choice believe so yes
critics would prob heavily vote towards astrobot or metaphor i think
then china can single handedly get wukong the win for players choice
digital crane
yeah audience will probably be split between wukong and metaphor id imagine for goty
placid otter
prob ff7r
digital crane
rebirth was hit or miss for a lot of people tho
neon scroll
Its open world is just bad
digital crane
theres a fair bit of people who preferred remake's linearity
placid otter
didnt get that impression. seeing ff7r heavily favoured
placid otter
Its open world is just bad
very
neon scroll
Never imagined I'd see Ubisoft radio towers in FF
placid otter
honestly. all the side content, the traversal, open world etc made me so frustrated i don't even remember the plot
placid otter
haven't played the original and am still 99% spoiler free
neon scroll
rebirth plot was great and i will die on this hill
I mean duh, FF7 plot great, wbk
It's really not about that in a remake, is it
glass knot
Balatro needs to win goty just because yes
digital crane
I mean duh, FF7 plot great, wbk
i was more referring to the ending
also, silent hill 2 might get a nomination
seems to be an underdog horror contender just like resident evil 4 was
fair elbow
Potentially with friends, but that's optional
Maybe when they bring back split-screen multiplayer
Gone are the days when the boys come over and you play Timesplitter 2 or Halo Reach 
neon scroll
Ye, hence why it's optional nowadays
I guess there's still sports games
I hear people play those for some reason
placid otter
game awards 90% jury 10% player voting
stable stratus
just say it's pure voting jury
neon scroll
Oh wow, a free 26 yr old game
digital crane
shadow of the erdtree is confirmed to be eligible for goty
i think this confirms that the nominees will be metaphor, astro, rebirth, sote, balatro and silent hill 2 ngl
maybe wukong/helldivers over the latter two
while i think phantom liberty got robbed a nomination if sote does get nominated i also think sote is arguably the highest quality expansion ive ever seen
higher quality than literal full length games
placid otter
faq showed that early access is also eligible so palworld can actualy be there
digital crane
i seriously doubt palworld
placid otter
never seen an EA be nominated anywhere
digital crane
is it a fun game? yeah
placid otter
thats an understatement imo
digital crane
is it a goty-quality game? ehhhh
placid otter
it is an insanely fun game
digital crane
i mean so was ds era pokemon
if anything the better survival sandbox game this year is satisfactory (automation vs monster hunting, i know)
finally got its official launch and it was a fucking banger
digital crane
im just biased towards automation games
factorio dlc and satisfactory is genuinely mindblowingly addcitive
placid otter
never was able to get into factorio. think i only played for like 3h?
placid otter
didn't even get to see the monsters lol
digital crane
lmao
i think ive logged like 50 hours in the past 3 days
finally started my dlc run and it's amazing so far
placid otter
9h it seems not 3
digital crane
my personal favourite game/expansion after metaphor this year
achievement hunting is gonna be a huge pain again tho 
some of the new factorio achievements are cruel
neon scroll
i seriously doubt palworld
Mate, Palworld will 1000% be there and nominated and it deserves it, simply for doing what the Pokemon company is too fucking lazy to do and evolve the formula instead of just slapping another set of 50 increasingly stupid pokemon on top of the existing pile and calling it a day for anything else
That's putting aside that it was one of the most successful game releases of all time
digital crane
idk for me all parts of it was just outclassed by other games this year
survival sandbox? satisfactory does it better
monster hunting? mh wilds BETA did it better
it was fun as hell but i also think a large portion of the hype is from them standing up to nintendo and not the actual game
neon scroll
comparing MH to Palworld for... hunting is like comparing CoD to shooting your bow in Zelda Link to the Past and saying the gunplay is better
digital crane
true, but that was a large part of palworlds marketing
neon scroll
That's just entirely different things
digital crane
as much as i hate the direction pokemon's been taken in, i also think legends: arceus did it a lot better than palworld
neon scroll
What marketing, lol
digital crane
What marketing, lol
being a better monster hunting game than pokemon
neon scroll
And if you think Arceus did anything better than Palworld then I really don't know man, heavy pokemon fanboi with rose tint glasses vibes
digital crane
arceus is the only great pokemon game post-oras and it was fucking great
minor bolt
palworld controls are a little clunky so ill give PLA that
neon scroll
Fair, but that's more of a mechanical issue that really doesn't have impact on rating a game
Counter point, arceus is a buggy, extremely badly optimized (as in not optimized at all) mess and could have been so much better if anyone at that fucking company gave a damn
Now you deleted your point and my counter point makes less sense
smh
digital crane
i dont care about how the controls felt lol i genuinely think arceus had better mechanics than palworld
and i will die on this hill
digital crane
if i cared about how clunky shit felt xenoblade would not be one of my highest rated games of all time
digital crane
Either way, denying that Palworld deserves a nomination is just crazy talk
i think the games i predicted above deserves it more, not that palworld doesnt deserve it at all
minor bolt
I thought about getting PLA or violet but I just got a 2ds and pirated all the games
Don’t feel like spending full price on year+ old switch games
digital crane
i got arceus at a random retail store for 50% off
worth it
best pokemon experience bar rom hacks/fan games in the past decade
neon scroll
i think the games i predicted above deserves it more, not that palworld doesnt d...
Neither SH2 nor Rebirth actually deserve a GOTY nomination, honestly
digital crane
Neither SH2 nor Rebirth actually deserve a GOTY nomination, honestly
personally, i think sh2 deserves a nomination just like how i thought re4 did
theyre just really high quality horror games
neon scroll
SH2 remake is a decent game, but not amazing and actually lacks severely in the atmosphere department that made the original so great. As I said before, better graphics can very much work to the detriment of a game.
And it absolutely did for SH2
digital crane
that's true (i never played the original, so i thought it was fantastic)
neon scroll
It's fair if you don't know the OG, but if you do it's just an ok remake, really
digital crane
i guess it's just like re3 then because i loved re3 remake
neon scroll
And Rebirth... well. The open world is shit. There's no excuse for that Ubisoft carbon copy bs you're forced to wade through to get to the next story bit.
digital crane
lol yeah i would say it's a clear winner personally if the open world wasnt ass
i would say it deserves goty nomination just for its actual combat gameplay as well as the story, but it's a remake of a game so the latter can't really count i guess
i adore ffvii's story so much lmao
neon scroll
I'm not a fan of remakes winning GOTY to begin with
Give that to something new and just make a "best remake" category at this point
digital crane
re2/4 are two id argue deserved it even with the remake status but yeah rebirth is just a biased pick for me
i think goty goes to either metaphor or astro bot anyway for sure
maybe tga will finally let an anime game win
best chance this year, at least
its a better persona than persona
neon scroll
P5 would've deserved it for the sheer amount of impeccable innovation it brought to the genre, honestly
digital crane
i actually think p5 got held back by its narrative department
neon scroll
Letting us keep turn based combat instead of turning everything into shitty real time battle mush (looking at you, various FF iterations) but making it fun and engaging
digital crane
the start and the climax-end are just fantastic, the middle is a slog
digital crane
Letting us keep turn based combat instead of turning everything into shitty real...
yeah atlus does turn based the best in the industry
im glad metaphor kept the actual combat turn based while making overworld stuff more interactive through action
that being said metaphor's "action combat" was literally just one thing
digital crane
I'm not a fan of remakes winning GOTY to begin with
what about if persona 4 golden gets a remake?
neon scroll
I just love turn based compat for RPGs cause you can just chill and play at your own pace
digital crane
I just love turn based compat for RPGs cause you can just chill and play at your...
fire emblem
neon scroll
what about if persona 4 golden gets a remake?
That would be rather silly, that game is still perfectly playable in its current state
I'd rather see modernized P2 instead
Or, you know
P6
digital crane
it is, but replaying it really makes me feel the lack of modern persona qol
i would not complain at all if they remake p4 instead of a p6 or sth
neon scroll
Naaaaaah. P6 should definitely be their next big project
digital crane
I'd rather see modernized P2 instead
lmao modern persona fans when they get to the fuhrer parts
neon scroll
I suppose you'd have to degrind that game a bit to make it palatable for modern audiences
I also recently pondered to get the new SMT game for PC, but for some reason it has Denuvo and I don't want that shit on my computer
digital crane
classic sega/atlus
neon scroll
Similar reason why I don't intend to also get P5R for PC
Not until they take that out
digital crane
if u have a ps5 no point getting it on pc anyway
neon scroll
Well, I'd get it on heavy sale, obviously
Just... not with Denuvo
Same thing with P3R for that matter
digital crane
you could also sail the seas as soon as they get cracked
neon scroll
I think I haven't actually pirated anything in quite some time, I have some karma points leftover
But it's silly, I wouldn't even mind to pay them, just take that shit out
digital crane
fr
digital crane
also anyone get to play dq3 yet?
slate thorn
I don't really like most survival crafting type games. And Palworld was no exception to that
I uninstalled it after a few hours
smoky imp
oh hey castlevania collection for free on epic games
stable stratus
neon scroll
So my gf who is actually doing everything in Metaphor is at 97hrs and still has 2 optional and the final dungeon to do
And that's pre-NG+
placid otter
dungeons are long?
slate thorn
Depends, story dungeons tend to be pretty long, side quest dungeons are a lot shorter
I hope I can play again tomorrow, it's been a while since I last played the game
neon scroll
She said her persona stand-ins are only at like 37% despite the playtime, whatever that means. Probably can't 100% that bit on first playthrough anyway
jovial wolf
yeah, some requirements on the later archetypes are insane
placid otter
another game u can't complete without a 2nd playthrough?
neon scroll
That has always been the case for Atlus games
placid otter
pain
neon scroll
Pretty much without exceptions
jovial wolf
they do be pretty broken, so the requirements are kinda justified
slate thorn
another game u can't complete without a 2nd playthrough?
You can, just not 100%
As that requires you to, in persona terms, level up every single persona to max level :P
I almost have every single follower at max uh... follower level, trust rating, friendship score
So that's neat
I hope I can max them all out before having to go to the last dungeon
jovial wolf
the follower part was so much more lenient than in Personas
slate thorn
Oh yeah, since they actually want to hang out with you even if you have a deadline
Persona you better complete the entire palace or whatever at day 1 or nobody will want to hang out with you
neon scroll
I almost have every single follower at max uh... follower level, trust rating, f...
Yeah, gf has that done
slate thorn
Neato
I love the characters so much in this game
I will still never forgive Atlus for not giving us romance
Also also ||I love Eupha when she wears the helmet, big round eyes and then the third eye looks so sassy, it's so cute||
placid otter
nominations today very curious what it will be
would be funny if players choice winner ended up being a non nominated game
can see it be possible this year
digital crane
if wukong doesnt get a nomination definitely possible
players choice will 100% be wukong
placid otter
Twitter
i wonder witg tga allowed early access and expansioms this year, if it means that games that been in ea since before 2024 are still allowed to be nominated or not
jovial wolf
being eligible for multiple years is just weird
placid otter
no i mean, they never were eligible prior to this year
placid otter
so since they are now can they be nominated if they releases this year
jovial wolf
like if hades 2 hit early access a bit earlier it could have easily been in the discussion
would it be eligible next year with the proper release again?
placid otter
is satisfactory eligible? its been in ea for the last like 3 years
and releases this year so i dunno
jovial wolf
should have just kept it for full releases
placid otter
would of thought hades 2 can be nominated now?
jovial wolf
sure it could, but if it meant it could not be again after the release when it could actually win, that would not be ideal for them
placid otter
but if this rule stays id assume it wont be eligible once it has released
jovial wolf
it's just stupid, keep it to full releases
jovial wolf
i am indifferent on that one
digital crane
shadow of the erdtree? mid aint even the best dlc this year
slate thorn
wonder how much content it brings
Outfits, Emil, and some missions / story stuff I believe. But I guess we'll see the whole picture soon™️
slate thorn
Hell yeah, Stellar Blade nominated for best soundtrack
digital crane
all im gonna say is that persona 3 reload deserved a nomination more than literally every other game in art direction/music
definitely not salty that the best video game soundtrack of all time got robbed
digital crane
if faker/t1 doesnt win their categories as well that's gonna be really fucking surprising
slate thorn
all im gonna say is that persona 3 reload deserved a nomination more than litera...
As much as I love Persona, Metaphor deserves it more for art direction
digital crane
reload surpassed 5 in art direction
digital crane
ehh reload blew me away while metaphors was just impressive for me
slate thorn
As for music, again, I love Persona, but Stellar Blade wipes the floor with any soundtrack released this year
digital crane
nah lotus juice cooked with the best video game album period
slate thorn
Anyways, Balatro for goty is insane
digital crane
i expected it tbh
slate thorn
nah lotus juice cooked with the best video game album period
I will politely disagree
It's amazing, but I wouldn't say it's the best
digital crane
the only other ost that compares to reload is doom eternals
slate thorn
Good enough for me to spend a hundred euros on it though
digital crane
my predictions were right except silent hill 2 instead of wukong
also surprised silksong didnt get a nomination for anticipated game
slate thorn
Also, I love all the typos in the tweets lol
digital crane
but i guess thats just beating a dead horse
slate thorn
also surprised silksong didnt get a nomination for anticipated game
Even Geoff gave up on the game :^)
digital crane
as good as sote is it was nominated for way too much shit as a dlc
also im so fucking excited to listen to the orchestral arrangement for rebirth and metaphor holy shit
really wish we also got p3r's but oh well cant complain
fallow vessel
how do you mispell Wukong as Waking?
slate thorn
Man, I'm going to be on the voting page for like a year, so many difficult choices
digital crane
mines pretty easy since theres one clear game i loved more than everything else
which is metaphor
for the categories it wasnt nominated ill have to think about it for a bit tbh
slate thorn
Easy Stellar Blade vote in the 2 nominated categories and Metaphor for goty, outside of that, difficult
digital crane
also, dragons dogma 2 nom might unironically be the worst choice out of everything except geng
slate thorn
I would vote if the site wasn't half dead
digital crane
too much traffic
i think im indifferent to any category (even goty, unless wukong wins then ill be pissed cuz its the worst game out of the 6 by far) but if faker doesnt win best esports player im rioting
slate thorn
I think all goty nominations are deserved
Astro bot is my only 
nomination. Like, it's great, but goty great?
placid otter
i havent seen the game, but alot do hope for it to win
glad wukong is in. def getting my vote for the 10%
stellar blade def best soundtrack
slate thorn
stellar blade def best soundtrack
No doubt, 10 hours of michelin star cooking
Nominating Helldivers 2 for community support is like the most diabolical thing ever lmao
digital crane
i also think if dlcs were eligible, factorio's dlc was robbed
personal hot take
but as we know indies can only go so far in TGA
neon scroll
being eligible for multiple years is just weird
The Sims College Party 2024 pack GOTY
Sam bringing in his bot army to vote
placid otter
how is no mans sky not nominated anymore for best ongoing game
big scam
star wars outlaws got a nomination???
neon scroll
Eww
slate thorn
I mean, TGA are rigged, I thought that was well known by now
neon scroll
Ubisoft be like "We gotta cancel our ads I guess"
Should just make a new category called "Game least deserving of a nomination" and give it to them
slate thorn
Or call it "Ubisoft still exists?"
dusty imp
assassins creed japan was supposed to come out this week i guess
had to pick a different one
minor bolt
https://fixupx.com/thegameawards/status/1858558285995241601
dlc in goty
stop the steal
neon scroll
It would genuinely sorta be s steal though. Even people who loved that DLC are like "it shouldn't be in the running for this, what"
neon scroll
best dlc/expansion it sweeps for sure
I mean, yeah. And that's completely fair
But is it even nominated for that?
I love that Helldivers II is nominated for "best community support" after what happened, lmao
And no, Erdtree is not nominated for the category the Cyberpunk DLC won in, as in "ongoing games"
Where it absolutely should be
Not a single nom for Palworld is definitely also a choice
slate thorn
Star Wars Outlaws over like, almost any other game released ths year is just braindead
neon scroll
Just looking through the "nominated on TGA" tab on steam and wtf, lol
What a steal!
Truly a bargain!
slate thorn
lol
dusty imp
amongst other things
placid otter
yeah, the anime/manga stuff would be big for sony
dusty imp
it would be hilarious if trash taste was under sony 
but yeah thats a giant chunk of the anime space
would be a huge L for crunchyroll haters
stable stratus
i dunno if this move is cringe or not...
but you do you, Sony
placid otter
Twitter
stable stratus
is it too much biased lol
pearl cobalt
have to think, there isn't anything that MS/XBox exclusive that's been great over the years. it's why they made the big push for Starfield and were buying companies for IPs
placid otter
they still got many good things, just nothing that stands out
minor bolt
its more that xbox just rehashes the same handful of series over and over
forza gets top reviews every release, but its just the exact same thing every time
fallow vessel
xbox loves doing the thing where because they have no games they buy a bunch of studios
which results in them still not having any games for some reason
so they close those studios and then end up with no games
slate thorn
I think the problem is that they buy studios that are like... why would you buy this???
And when they do get actual good games they try to throw them into the trash asap
minor bolt
the games they’ve shown off so far that are coming dont look all that appealing either
jovial wolf
oh, stalker 2 is on gamepass day 1
dusty imp
amongst other things
update:
sony's gotta give their media team a raise
framing this as "sony buying fromsoft" is a genius move
its all people are saying
slate thorn
I think a good comparison to Sony buying Kadokawa is like Apple buying Disney or something
dusty imp
Disney, known for Gravity Falls (2012)
slate thorn
Man, I just spent like 1.5 hours on one stupid fight in Metaphor
I think I died like 10 times
placid otter
Twitter
neon scroll
Man, I just spent like 1.5 hours on one stupid fight in Metaphor <:chuukek:48834...
Clearly you need to grind more
slate thorn
It was a really tough boss
Constantly at +3 attack, 4 attacks per turn, and you have 300 max hp
jovial wolf
https://x.com/shinobi602/status/1859242692259037364?s=19
looks like typical stalker release, we'll see how much the day 1 patch fixes
or how it looks in two years like the original
neon scroll
placid otter
someone even saying it is worse than cp77 on launch
smoky imp
It wouldn't be a Stalker without it's bugs and glitches
neon scroll
kek
And that's just Steam of course. Mobile version be like....
Funny side effect of all the Balatro discourse is people actually turning around to play it and immediately getting addicted to it, evident in it being the top paid game in all app stores rn on mobile (yes, it overtook Minecraft)
stable stratus
Balatro nominated is simply awesome
and all you need to do to make this game is just by the power of .lua
fallow vessel
the one thing I would be criticising myself is the most anticipated games category
like I personally never heard about anyone looking forward to the metroid game
I would definitely put Kingdom Come in there but I'm also massively biased towards that game
jovial wolf
i mean those two things have similar reason, KC is czech game and metroid wasn't really a thing here
and still isn't
neon scroll
like I personally never heard about anyone looking forward to the metroid game
There's a lot of people looking forward to a new installment in that series, the reason you don't see that much is that they've been looking for over a decade
Hell, even Samus Returns was just a remake when it comes down to it
Unless you wanna count Metroid Dread, but that's not actually a mainline game
jovial wolf
that does explain why it's still not a thing here
like zelda wasn't really a thing, but that did change with switch
neon scroll
Zelda was always massive and is actually one of the very few franchises that got a mainline title on every Nintendo console
jovial wolf
well nintento wasn't massive here
neon scroll
That's fair I suppose
jovial wolf
it was pretty much pokemon games on emulators and that's it
neon scroll
The way they should be played
jovial wolf
growing up here it was very pc dominated space with the occasional playstation owner
and the elementary after school had mega drive for some reason
jovial wolf
we just blasted golden axe
digital crane
let's be real, most anticipated game every single year for years has been silksong
even with huge titles like totk and elden ring in the mix
theres just no other game with the same infamy in the gaming community
minor bolt
let's be real, most anticipated game every single year for years has been silkso...
wrong
knack 3
fallow vessel
in certain communities maybe but not overall
there is no chance that it is anticipated by more people than GTA 6 now for example
neon scroll
Yeah, GTA6 is the easy winner of this
slate thorn
I voted for Mr Kojima san 
dusty imp
silksong probably has the award for most dreaded upcoming game
most new indie metroidvanias already get buried under hollow knight comparisons even 8 years later
