How to stop the trolling in brookhaven.

[heady storm]

Hi

[mortal field]

I can’t say anything

[heady storm]

Lowk they needa give a prop tool to ps owners that let's them see who made props 💔

[timid timber]

is it good?/

[heady storm]

Or they just gotta MAKE AN ANTI CHEAT

Sofa tool exists just to trol

Troll

[timid timber]

so is it good or not man.

i worked hard frfr

do you guys agre

agree

[median loom]

lwky good idea

[mortal field]

The idea is good

[acoustic merlin]

we kinda need this

[storm swan]

The problem is that even if there is moderation on Brookhaven, there will always be trolls, or Voldex must make a system so that when too many props are placed, the last prop placed by the player disappears to avoid duplication.

[low reef]

Sure. However, a few things should be taken into consideration.

1. Moderation Team
   If we're to have a human moderation team that actively patrols servers, you're gonna need to have a lot of moderators.

With 22 per server at most (max server size is 22), and 400k-700k concurrent players, the number of servers to cover is:
Low CCU (400k): ~18,182 servers
High CCU (700k): ~31,818 servers

Let's aim to cover 1%-2% of the servers.
1% Coverage: 182-318 servers monitored at once.
2% Coverage: 364-636 servers monitored at once.

Since each moderator can only be in one server at a time, we will need a moderator for each server being monitored.
1% Server Coverage (~250 servers at once)
• 250 moderators online at all times
• Assuming 3 shifts per day (morning, evening, night), ~750 total moderators

2% Server Coverage (~500 Servers at once)

• 500 moderators online at all times
• Assuming 3 shifts per day, ~1500 total moderators

In short, it would take a LOT of people for a moderation team. (Reports sent into a discord channel from ingame using webhooks would rate-limit and just spam, wouldn't work well and would probably just break)

2. Votekick/Voteban
   This could also be used to troll and could be even worse than what you experience currently :)

3. AntiSpam
   AntiSpam systems dont always work the best. It looks for X amount of X executed in X amount of time which isn't always accurate.

4. Anticheat
   This isn't listed, however an anticheat could work if you can actually develop a good one. Anticheats aren't easy to make, but I have seen pretty good ones across Roblox.

5. Ticket System
   Also isn't listed, but this is the safer route. Tickets/report systems won't have quick response times due to the amount of users in the server and game, however it is probably the best option available.

[mortal field]

AI

[low reef]

,, nope

[storm swan]

The idea of ​​the anti-cheat is Roblox themselves

[low reef]

ive seen games with better anticheat than roblox's

[primal sail]

The cons could have been structured by an ai. But these models doesn't know explicit details about certain roblox games, even if they are popular.

[low reef]

no idea if ur calling what i sent ai, i assume so

if you're talking about AI moderation, its not the best. take a look at roblox's

[storm swan]

Votekick is a good idea, but trolls can also abuse it...

[timid timber]

how can they abuse it if its a false votekick

people would see Votekick made by IIIIIIII and false kicking someone

[dense bison]

maybe only props for account over 30+ days old 😈

[timid timber]

but the members in the server could easily overcome them?

the max trollers in a server is 4 people

MAX

[timid timber]

is not possible

[timid timber]

i mean by private roleplays

[storm swan]

I don't know, maybe with Alt accounts

[primal sail]

I think they were trying to make your points less valid by telling us that it was ai-generated. However, an ai often has a more rational approach on things.

[timid timber]

4 alts against a 75% full real players??

[low reef]

also ai detectors return 0% so im not worried

[storm swan]

This can happen, either with other players

If VoteKick detects fake votes, I agree.

[primal sail]

I just think that people should appreciate counterarguments. They are important for actual and long-lasting solutions!

[low reef]

oh people will just click "yes" on votekick for fun

and when the player base is kids who like to click things?

start a votekick and there will always be people who just click yes without knowing anything about it

[low reef]

how would that even work

it'd need to know the context of the situation

[storm swan]

avoiding voting spam

[low reef]

as in rate limiting votes?

or rate limiting the startup of a votekick

[timid timber]

they wouldnt?

[low reef]

they do it all the time lmao

the playerbase consists of below 13 and slightly older

kids click things for fun to see what they do

they'll click yes a lot because it sounds nice

[primal sail]

Btw @timid timber, just take a look at this: #1356979225160061009 message

[storm swan]

If they make it so that they have to wait, for example, 24 hours to vote a second time, they have to wait 24 hours even if they join another server.

[low reef]

24 hours is a bit much lmao

in terms of creating a votekick, 6 hours would be a safe bet

by voting on a votekick i dont think there should be one

[storm swan]

Enough to avoid spam anyway😆

[low reef]

i got an idea

pay to bypass the ratelimit and pay to vote more than once 😱😱😱

call the devs i just had a major breakthrough chat

[storm swan]

or either a game admin joins the server to approve the vote by seeing the evidence

[storm swan]

pay, ok but how many robux?

[low reef]

that was a joke

in no way shape or form should they introduce paying to votekick

[storm swan]

6 hours is enough to avoid spam

[low reef]

yeah thats why i put 6 hours

thank you

[timid timber]

but people wouldnt really have fun while keeping trollers in the game am i right?

[low reef]

trollers arent fun but there isnt much to do (that would be actually efficient) in such a huge game

[timid timber]

there are 22 players maximum once a good rp

[timid timber]

14-18 join sometimes

[low reef]

continue

[halcyon glade]

Vote kick then leave and join in a new acct

[neat sandal]

I already suggested all of this way before

I just hope that the add it.

Ingame moderation as in public server is a big no.

[timid timber]

not in public servers only in [riv

priv

[timid timber]

and the 10 days account old required?

[timid timber]

if one is falsely vote kicking or pressing yes to a vote kick on the troller, it would show in the audit log and can get the mods to ban the false voter.

[low reef]

a vote kick audit log?

[low reef]

read the 1st section

where i talk about servers

[timid timber]

i mean it as priv servers

[timid timber]

Yes, when you do make a vote kick system, a audit log is obviously made aswell

[low reef]

read how many servers at low / high ccu

[timid timber]

Lmao, let me point it out.

first, i meant by a private server hosting aka the one in the hosting channel used for private hosts

1 moderator should just join, 20 mins daily 3 times

1 mod per server, just checking up.

[low reef]

1 moderator per server.?

[timid timber]

yep

[low reef]

at a 400k ccu theres 18k servers

you expect brookhaven to employ 18 thousand people?

[timid timber]

not PUBLIC servers

PRIVATE roleplays

[low reef]

there are private server controls

[timid timber]

#💭・hosting the server hosted in this channel

[timid timber]

anddd?

[low reef]

just use those

[timid timber]

the controls are basic controls

[low reef]

isnt there a kick thingy

i think i read in one of the other 60 suggestions ive replied to that theirs kicking in the priv server controls

[timid timber]

wont rlly help

[low reef]

ye it kinda does as the priv server kick works the same as a votekick

[timid timber]

if people dont need a vote kick system, MAYBE a 10 days account required rule??

[low reef]

oh yeah i agree with that

[timid timber]

when a troller joins, gets banned, rejoins with a new purely made alt

[low reef]

i never denied that i meant to say i agreed with that

[timid timber]

OR possibly 20 days old?

[timid timber]

yeah

if you disagree with the vote kick system

[low reef]

reporting systems could also work it would just be slow asf

[timid timber]

here comes the 10 days old account required rule.

[low reef]

support*

[timid timber]

true

but when you have a mod ing

you can request !help frper/troller/erper etc

the priv rper hosters dont care if anyone frped or erped, just the trolling.

Also, with the hani soundboard trollers aswell.

Mods should also check if anyone really is from the wolfpaq discord server

as in heisting

something like this possibly.

alot of hosters dont use it, but its a really good account checker

[manic dust]

just do 10-20 day account required, anti-cheat isn't really needed in brookhaven because it'll do nothing

[low reef]

read your text, no idea what it means, but i have completed the task

[low reef]

i have read the message you sent

both of the 2 messages srnt above

i am still confused on the meaning behind "# read this" and "I'm saying to everyone read this If you have no idea what it means, maybe you didn’t actually complete the task."

thats what she said

🙏

we'll host a funeral

[median loom]

This is a MUST

[manic dust]

huh

[low reef]

exactly

[neon gale]

Yep

[soft matrix]

Hi, ex staff here.

Ingame moderation is impossible, simple. With the amount of active players and exploiters alone, it'd be a chore to even get into a server. Not to mention, Brookhaven is a free to play roblox game, meaning they could just make an alt to exploit/ troll on.

Please ensure you fully understand the concept of popular free to play games. Diolch!

(Not to mention, regarding a date requirement, I've had 10 accounts cooking for a while, I wouldn't be surprised if the rule breakers would have them too.)

[timid timber]

alr i guess

[cosmic galleon]

I can confirm that ingame moderation is possible

[timid timber]

1 modeator per private server won't really hurt tho.

[cosmic galleon]

Ive talked with raccia too

[timid timber]

Go to a game called CJDC, Clayton Juvenile Detention Center

[cosmic galleon]

she said its possible

but it would take a lot time

[timid timber]

the mods can moderate and roleplay at the same time

[timid timber]

Doing work, having fun.

[timid timber]

1 moderator moderates a server that has 35-45

and they do it so smoothly, expoliter, easily banned with just !help expoliter

Tho, i guess this suggestion has no feed.