#Roster Help needed! [Level 64 Returning Player]

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lean tulip
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Never really cared to optimize when I played... but I am reaching hurdles on the Sunken Temple and even the Haunted House that my heroes can't overcome... so I took the time to get this assembled- I'll probably need to fire alot of heroes ahaha... would love to hear the advice everyone has for me!

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cold pagoda
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Unforunately, most of the heroes you have do have significant issues and may want to be replaced down the line but I want to bring your attention to Vestiea and Armand specifically

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Check S4 on those two even though their first two skills are bad

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The 3rd skill alone for both the geomancer and the spellknight are worth checking S4 for

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Especially since you've already promoted the spellblade (Which you should not have done for a few reasons)

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As for the other heroes, you'll want to replace them over time but start with Natalya, Lysta

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You've seen both of their natural skillset and neither of them are worth investing into since their skills are not good enough to warrant the promotion (Not that lower tier classes are bad, but these two specifically don't make the cut)

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Important Notes: Please read

  • Do NOT fire more than three heroes at a time. If you see more than three heroes under the "fire now" category, assume that they have the same priority for being fired.
  • The above note does NOT apply if you haven't filled out all hero slots for your available Merchant Level. If you can have 18 hero slots but only currently have 15 hero slots. Your biggest priority is to fill out those slots
  • Heroes under "fire now" or "fire later" categories may have special notes attached which will say if they are especially bad or if you can keep them till last to fire
  • Please don’t be shy to ask anything! I’m just a normal girl behind the screen, who loves helping people and totally down to explain stuff if needed!

Terminology

  • Fire now: A hero with skills that are almost irredeemable and should be fired as soon as possible. Adds no value to the team right now, or are the weakest links of the roster.
  • Fire later: Heroes that have no long term value, and that you will replace down the line. Typically split into high priority or low priority depending on how usable the set is in the short/long term. Assume high priority if unspecified
  • ODC (One dice check): Using one skill dice to reroll a skill at a certain skill slot.
  • S1/S2/S3/S4: Refers to the skill slot of a hero. S1 is the first skill for all heroes and is obtained at level 5, S2 is obtained at level 10, S3 at level 23, S4 at level 35. Note that some classes are only able to obtain up to S2/S3 naturally, without being promoted using titan souls

One last thing, before I begin the analysis! Could you please provide the following information?

  • Do you ever plan on getting Mundra, or Roland? (Totally fine if not, just asking because I noticed that people tend to write "No" but plan on getting them)
  • How many die of each tier do you have?
  • How many titan souls do you have?
  • What are your goals? (Refer to the message after this if you don't have any idea)
lean tulip
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Not planning on getting Mundra or Roland for now... recently returned (month or so ago) after years and I don't think I want to commit that hard in the off-chance I drop it again!
I have:

  • 1 Basic Skill Die
  • 7 Super Skill Die
  • 4 Mega Skill Die
  • 5 Perfect Skill Die
  • 3 Titan Souls!

My Goals are to be able to further go down the list of new areas and be capable of weathering them on Hard atleast (so I can get the components!)

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Can't quite get S4, been stuck with the Guild's Training Hall limiting me to Level 33... so don't expect me to get that anytime soon!

cold pagoda
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If your goal is hard dungeons, then most of your heroes can comfortably clear that if you get them levelled high enough with proper equipment

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Which you unfortunately cannot get because of what you mentioned near the end

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I recommend finding a guild that can accommodate for you, especially one that's higher levelled so you can get higher level heroes etc!

lean tulip
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I'll take your suggestion on looking for a new guild! I checked out that welcome to the jungle guide, but it's very complicated for me... I'll try to replace most of my heroes first- leveling those I have replaced now (Natalya and Lysta, as you said)
What is an order you would recommend I'd go down the list of to replace?

cold pagoda
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Oops sorry, I had wanted to come back to this but I forgot!

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The rule for roster building is to have at least three of every element and another recommended guideline is to have at least two archetypes per element

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For your case, you already have enough water, dark heroes

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So you'll want to hire

  • 3 earth heroes
  • 1 fire hero
  • 1 air hero
  • 1 light hero
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After firing lysta and natalya, you still have enough dark heroes but you need 2 fire heroes

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You have more spellcasters, so I would recommend hiring a dancer and a wanderer

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For a deeper analysis for your other heroes, here's what you'll want to know!

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Bianca

  • Perfectly functional and can work for hard quests but you should look into replacing them down the line since this set doesn't quite make sense as a whole. Low priority fire later

Samson

  • Fire now/later, this set doesn't make sense since you have a little of everything but not enough of anything (If that makes sense)

Gigax

  • Check S4 once you can or use xp potions since those bypass training hall requirements

Marigold

  • Check S4

Barbas

  • Check S3 since you're so close

Natalya

  • Fire now

Alianor

  • Check S4

Nathanael

  • Check S4

Deneb

  • Check S4 (This set is weak but is a perfect example of a functional hero that can clear quests which happens to be your goal!)

Winifred

  • Check S4

Laerys

  • Your best hero by far, check S4

Lysta

  • Fire now

Cyrus

  • I would fire now as well

Malik

  • Check S4 (Sad rei noises)

Armand

  • Check S4 just because of your S3

Amelda

  • Check S4 but likely a fire later

Gwendolynn

  • Check S4 but likely a fire later

Vestia

  • Check S4 and you'll likely want to ODC S1 or S2 if S4 turns out to be bad
lean tulip
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Thanks for the help, I'll update things here once I reach S4 or reach a point with new hires getting skills!

cold pagoda
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Berserker could try for better, the other two are great!

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I would also recommend picking up the questing tree

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Then getting Argon's Finest

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3 points in that talent would let you hire heroes at level 10 which lets you see the first two skills right away

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Don't go crazy rerolling heroes though!

lean tulip
dreamy glen
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not great, s1 is pretty weak and s2 prevents them from using better gear options in that slot

lean tulip
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So it's a re-roll?

dreamy glen
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you could check s3-4 but probably easier to rehire

lean tulip
dreamy glen
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check s3 on both, musk s2 is weaker but could be rerolled later

lean tulip
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Think thats a re-hire too

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dreamy glen
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its not horrible, berserkers can use a hybrid build so a weapon skill is ok and could reroll s1
could check s3 if you want or rehire

lean tulip
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Only got 1 tier 1 skill die....

dreamy glen
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you can fuse them all the time if you have mundra, if you dont then you can still fuse them during full moon

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might make that a fire then

lean tulip
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Ahhh alright I can try and do that

lean tulip
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Checked S3 for Barbas, no idea if it is good

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dreamy glen
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dark knights can use pretty much any type of build but overall its a fire later
this set is useable since you have a weapon skill and some attack and some hp for the defensive side but s1 is the weakest hp skill and s3 doesnt give much attack and since they have 0 evasion to start the extra doesnt really change much

lean tulip
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Firing Samson to re-hire

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Not sure if that is good for a ranger

dreamy glen
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rangers are a defensive class so s1 isnt great, s2 works but its on the weaker side so fire

lean tulip
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Alright

lean tulip
dreamy glen
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check s3, s1 can be easily rerolled and s2 is a great skill since they can use guns and they like evasion

lean tulip
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Time to train em up then!

lean tulip
dreamy glen
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correct, s1 is pretty useless, you have a weapon skill which is ok if you got some attack, and s3 is pretty weak for defensive stats

lean tulip
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It's a rehire then...

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The others I hired are level 20~ish so I'll see if they're good soon

lean tulip
dreamy glen
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check s3-4 for both, smite is weaker but can be rerolled later if you end up keeping them

lean tulip
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Cyrus is 22 so very soon I can see the s3

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