Hero Power has decreased and some skills are not being taken into account

[sick nacelle]

Hello, the Hero Power took a massive Dive with the Last Update, apparently the weapon damage skills do Not Work anymore ?
Ragedrop#54835

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[slow plaza]

Warlock and monks are the ones affected less looks like, so it feels like that is the issue

[sick nacelle]

Got these aswell, 163 to 70 and Hes got 2 weapon skills

[ashen shuttle]

I think the problem lies with the weapon skill

[regal pollen]

Thrack#52350

Steam, Android

Win 10

Dont have a before

[ancient kite]

thanks everyone

[coral girder]

It's not just weapon skill or this wouldn't be different

[undone prawn]

This one is actually correct. So it's gotta be something to do with the skills since this has no attack skills

[sick nacelle]

Maybe a variety of crit skills too

Since warlocks went down

[undone prawn]

My bishop went down, it doesn't have crit

It's usually around 130k

[slow plaza]

Don’t they get buffs from armor pieces? If they have attack as a second stat…

[undone prawn]

But it's atk is 51k now

[ashen shuttle]

the number should be much higher and glowing

[slow plaza]

I feel that it is correlated with anything that scales on equipment (skills, passives etc)

[ashen shuttle]

the normal druid skill still applies- Number is still glowing and higher

[slow plaza]

Isn’t it because of the affinity bonus?

[pliant wedge]

Warlocks lost the power from their tomes

[modern orbit]

same. all heroes half power

[pliant wedge]

Several of mine are less than half >_<

[sly fable]

Damage skills in total except hero skills are all affected. My dancer no longer has adept

[icy topaz]

All gear-type-specific skills I'd say. Innate boost to def on defensive gear from knights seems to be impacted, but not Extended Waranty (which applies to every gear)?

[noble wing]

Yeah having this issue as well, my grandmaster star power dropped approx 80k with update

[runic sorrel]

so that there's no doubt on weapon skills. unless I am really bad at math.

[candid aspen]

lord defense went from 20k to 10k so its not just weapon skill

and star power down 30% give or take they were almost 90

[pliant wedge]

I think the shield skills are affected too

[candid aspen]

sensei attack power more than cut in half

down from 110k star to 70k

guessing maybe its marksman that got wrecked because my wanderer also down from 90k to 47k

[indigo tulip]

lost about 200k power on my dancer

and across the board about 100k per char

[vital cave]

My druid increased its power, the only hero that did afaik

[calm hazel]

The majority of my heroes are down 10-20% but my sensei is down over 120k power. (Roughly 50%)

[polar rapids]

300k was now 147 k hmm

[earnest harbor]

Acrobat went from 287k to 90k ggs

[finite dock]

I’ve gone from 23 Heroes over 100k to 2 Heroes post update.

[vernal cloak]

Your hero are so tiny

[ancient wraith]

Honey, I Shrunk the Power!

[patent walrus]

I guess can’t do quest with my team

[finite dock]

Dude, Where’s My Hero Power?!

[ancient wraith]

it basically looks like the weapon skills are broken, if it's not already been said

[coral girder]

It's more gear-boosting stuff in general cause the lord innate is also affected

Though EW seems to be fine so

[ancient wraith]

Ah, was just checking it on my Conquistador as I get the same attack value if I remove the elite weapon skill

[topaz zephyr]

i've also seen up to 50% drop in hero power depending on the hero.. i'll leave some pictures of the skills in case it helps debugging

[earnest harbor]

It says 175/180 but the skills are t4. when i tap on them it resets to 175/170. Maybe they are increasing the element and there’s a bug

[undone prawn]

Dark knight/velite/Chrono passive needs 180

Always has

[earnest harbor]

Oh im tripping then 😅

[undone prawn]

The highest for skills is 170

150/160/170 based on rarity

[earnest harbor]

Thx for explaining:)

[undone prawn]

You'll notice lower tier heroes need less than 170

No problem! A question I can answer until we get a grasp on new enchants 😉

[earnest harbor]

I never looked at that tbh 3 years into game now lol

[undone prawn]

Yeah that's fair. I was around before rank 4 skills, or even rank 3 epic...so it was a bit more nuanced back then. Then it's just 2 affinity (3 for t7 heroes). Now it's...no affinity necessary
But yeah, the element is working fine. The other stuff above that is bugged and they're aware! So hopefully it'll be resolved "soon"

[earnest harbor]

Yea hopefully they fix this one and the aura one as well

[mint token]

I have 20 screenshots of right before the update and now, my heroes have lost like 30k power out of nowhere...

[undone prawn]

Yeah they're aware, it's a bug. Hopefully they'll find the issue soon

[nocturne moon]

WIll this issue be fixed or is it just part of the new update?

[deft plume]

The question is, is it safe to do quests? I mean one thing it's the interface number wrong, another thing is the damage be affected in quests, if so it would be harder to do quests...

[undone prawn]

It's safe in that there's no new side effects. However, your heroes are weaker for now

[sick rapids]

i had a quest going from before the update when i updated the game i ended up failing the quest i was like damn well that new turn out it was cuz of the bug

[candid aspen]

yah iv got as few heros on 18+ hour rests now failing extreme bosses i started just before lcog ended

[sacred spear]

Is the TL;DR for this thread that there are bugs with equipment and skills and that it's not an intended change in difficulty?

[coral girder]

[waxen crown]

I can confirm that:

• Grandmaster innate does not increase stats from rings after patch.
• Arch Druid innate does work as normal.
• Spellknight innate does work as normal, both the elemental specific part of it and the non-specific part.

[frank scroll]

This is a bug that makes me think this game is not worth touching anymore...

[olive rapids]

All of my heroes are cut half.

[bleak veldt]

"We put 10 more levels on the heroes but it's paid until the next att and as for the power level having dropped despite nothing being said about it, it's a "bug" 🤑🤑🤑" read with kabam voice.

[sick rapids]

id they end up staying like this ill definitely quit ngl

was super close to it before the update and now even closer

[bleak veldt]

and after that they give us a banana for the bug problems like in the last one for the problems what they gave was a surcharge event

[opaque cairn]

Just throwing this jnto the mix. Caprice starts tomorrow. I need to run extreme quests to keep up witg the components I burn through.

There is no way I can run them with this bug.

[hallow remnant]

All heroes bug!

[final snow]

KC is <t:1718290803:F>

[cedar raven]

I mean it's a bug that's known and investigated. Why would it stay this way?

[echo crow]

I can only do 3teams of extreme now 😂 before it was 8... 😭...

[thorny slate]

Just want to add my guild is also reporting this issue

[cedar raven]

Yeah, it's everyone

[gloomy oracle]

Oh boy, KC will be a nightmare

[alpine oyster]

KC will be a nightmare? Why?

[vernal cloak]

Because 17.0 Update broke everything? 😋

[alpine oyster]

Well, I heard (but never done the math myself) if you go for components without feathers medium is the most efficient way to collect em.

[gray bison]

if you can fuse, chests should be cheap and an hour or less fusing something you lack will only slow you down a bit. I am bad at it, but having a good sack of chests + stones for every level is never bad

(unless you do not have mundra then ya blarg)

[finite dock]

It will be harder and slower to replenish Quest only components due to reduced Hero power. Weaker Heroes take longer to rest if not using Feathersor Stamina Drinks. Also some difficulty levels may no longer be doable.

[alpine oyster]

Which difficulty are you capable under normal circumstances? And do you normally use feathers?

I must admit I am one of these “high level players not minding to spend money” so I do have 5 maxed trunks and a quite comfortable stack size of 935 - which also admittedly very likely overflows (as other inventories tend to do)…

[finite dock]

I also have 5 maxed trunks, well until the new update came and I have 1184 capacity in storage and racks.
Which is great if I am able to fill them

I can usually do Extreme on most except Elysium and I don’t usually use Feathers .
But as all but 2 of my Heroes which were all previously over 100k, are now below 100k power, their performance is severely reduced.

I have focused on Questing talent tree so most of my gold comes from selling loot earned from Quests.

[candid aspen]

normally i can do beal spire on extreme

now i only have 2 groups that can even do it on easy

im getting gear breaks left and right even doing haunted extreme

because all fights lasting 20 freakin rounds

[alpine oyster]

Thats why I hinted if one quests ONLY or mainly for components without feathering extremes - try normal and the resting times as a temporary workaround.

[candid aspen]

couldnt do any bosses past cronos on extreme

cant even do bleak boss on normal

my tanks went from 30k defense to 10k defense they just get 1 hit on anything now.

[alpine oyster]

Kabam MIGHT throw an extraordinary mini event in again like last time when heroes got undressed on quests.

[gray bison]

we will see, but them finding a fix then compasting for it after is best

[candid aspen]

well considering i have basically an entire l;ost day of questing now

kind of better be some kind of compensation

[finite dock]

Which significantly reduces amount of components earned. Appreciate the suggestion though. I am reducing difficulty levels.

[candid aspen]

the gear breaks alone costing me a freaking fortune

[gray bison]

one day sucks when it goes to many days the comastion thing wshould increase

[alpine oyster]

Which ALSO significantly reduces rest times, dont forget.

[gray bison]

we can only see how things play out

[candid aspen]

when you do haunted mansion on normal and it costs you 3 repair packs or 30 mil to get 2 mil worth of components

literally not even worth questing right now

[alpine oyster]

I hardly quest due to the thing I explained before that’s why I am asking.

[candid aspen]

im questing tree i run over 100 quests a day i cannot now basically cannot play until this is fixed

[alpine oyster]

I just sent down a party to the sunken temple boss - lets see how they manage for me, but I am more after the key than the components

[candid aspen]

tired of losing money from quesitng because all my dps hit like wet towels and my tanks crumple in 1 hit and i get 2-3 gear breaks every quest when i should get 0-1 on extreme and im forced to do easy and still get more gear breaks losing tons of money to quest so basically no questing for me i guess

[gray bison]

I had a team do fine with the Elysium bos hard and do onk, thought till the fix I have 1 team that cna do that

while one team would be needed, it is kid of limiting

still as I was earlier yeatersday at this point

I hope thye find a fix soon

[candid aspen]

i had 3 teams on extreme bleak rest on hard now i have 2 teams that can do easy bleak rest can go home

my entire bench was over 50k several over 100k now i have like 5 over 50k

[finite dock]

Fair point.

[alpine oyster]

Are you crafting T11? In case you are collecting components for selling, sunken temple went for max gold in requests about an hour ago. Blackspire I didn’t check since that boss is not yet open but I am well over 1k with some of that components

I HAVE to sell those if I dont want to have em overflowing.

[candid aspen]

i am crafting t10 and fusing using t11 mats but i can do neither because i cannot quest and i cant keep all my trade slots full with material requests or my inventory will max right out and its taking 8-16 hours to fill coral requests

and i was in the process of max leveling lava and bleak still on lvl 20 for bleak cant even run lava on easy now

[alpine oyster]

And of course you cannot postpone maxing the dungeons until it’s fixed if I understood you right. I am just trying to explain possible workarounds until it’s fixed.

[candid aspen]

i am 100% out of bleakspire materials and sunken materials

so while yes i am trying to max it im also using the materials. the workaround is i either lost money or i lose money so its not a workaround really

[thorny slate]

What about buying materials from the market? Not perfect, but could still be worth it

Same with working together with you guild mates. Maybe they still have teams that can run certain dungeons, and you can request the materials from there. You can do the same for a different dungeon for them. Not perfect, but may mitigate the ‘damage’ some

[candid aspen]

its not its a loss of gold and its taking way too long to fill for t10/11 resources especially coral its all good il just close the game and come back when they fix this maybe

[analog isle]

This is not ideal with caprice coming up

[torn star]

Hero Power has decreased and some skills are not being taken into account

[sly fable]

Kabam: No official response on the matter or emergency maintenance. Also kabam: We got a new stream @ here go watch it

[pliant wedge]

mmhmm

[finite dock]

They may be waiting till they are certain of their facts before making an official statement but yes, is now the best time to showcase the game via live stream?

[fiery briar]

I think this is about your coding how weapon/equipment skill get in to account

there's 2 modifier, equipment modifier skill (like adding 250% def from shield, 250% from melee weapon) which only adding value from directly from equipment, and atk/def modifier skill (like add 100%atk value)

i think before the game calculating value from equipment modifier first then adding whole atk/def from other source (like raw atk, atk from premium equipment etc) then MULTIPLY with atk/def modifier skill

in this patch, they MULTIPLY atk/def modifier skill first with raw atk+equipment atk, then ADDING atk from equipment modifier skill,
this make the value smaller, because instead multiplying it, it only adding the value on last calculation

i hope they fix it immediately because many heroes relly from equipment modifier skill like supreme wand titan (bronze) or ascended archmage (gold skill) which adding whooping 250% value from weapon

[sly fable]

A simple 'we are aware of the situation' would make this much clearer. Heck, this is the 2nd time since i played where heroes are affected by an update that doesn't change any of the hero mechanics. Major cap that a bug like this slips twice back to back and not be notice during beta testing

[undone prawn]

It's flagged as investigating. Also they updated the title. They're aware.

[fiery briar]

yeah,, i simply use usual heroes for t14 for extreme, but my lord is having sad face , which is rare, her defense is outstanding, she is the most happy in most extreme (with elemental value already fulfilled) and my spellknight too

also lower damage means longer fight means more items to break

I hope they give more repair kit as compensation

[undone prawn]

Couldn't tell you ... I just know they're aware so wanted to clarify that they know, for those who might not notice the "investigating" and sfuff.

[stable atlas]

Would be nice if they actually testing things before releasing it. Found this after 30 seconds so really can't be hard to do this. Happy to help test.

[serene thunder]

Can we close this thread so it isn't bumped?

[wooden cobalt]

It is tested, but sometimes bugs only happen on live servers. They could do a maintenance and pull the game down I guess. But that would mean a downtime of multiple hours while they fix any bug they find

[mint token]

im all for a few hours off time to fix the major issues they have, as half of the gameplay is now gone

[wooden cobalt]

The time they need won't be shortened if they take the servers offline. It would be worse. Now we can atleast play while they fix the bugs.

[candid aspen]

they have hte fix they just didnt push the hotfix because they clearly dont give 2 shits about a large portion of thep layer base being unable to play. to them it appears to be just another cosmetic bug wel push it when we get around to it. really starting to sour my taste for this game

[echo crow]

I hope we get the fix today 🙂

[cedar raven]

Orrrr it's because getting updates out requires approval from not one, but all platforms.

[candid aspen]

bro the approval process is automated and ios is the only one that takes more then a few minutes which is why when they push a patch it takes ios the longest to get the update. it dosent take 2 days sorry.

[cedar raven]

If it's so easy then I assume you have a fix and the approval ready to go?

[candid aspen]

yes

can you even call it a hotfix if you take 2 days to deploy it

[cedar raven]

That doesn't seem like you have a fix, that seems like they have a fix and put in the work

[candid aspen]

whatever clearly your just going to hero defend a decision not to push the patch immediatly with whatever illogical rant you have to offer

just like sony fan boys defending sony over account linking on pc you are of the same breed

[cedar raven]

You came in here and immediately started trashing the game. No one's making you play the game and they're clearly working on it and updating the page as they go to keep us informed. They have a process they have to go through before it's released. You have nothing valuable to add and at this point you're bringing in arguments that have nothing to do with the game, the recent update, or the bug to attempt to attack my character. You can drop it now.

[dense bramble]

perhaps instead of acting like a keyboard warrior u cud look on the brighter side. this bug affects any hero worth his salt, which is probz 99% of hero's. thats pretty funny. i do hope they fix it soon tho 🙂

[candid aspen]

you can bet if it was something that broke the payment process and money stopped flowing it would be fixed within the hour

hard to hold new players in the game when the end game is unattainable at all even over the course of years without having a saudi bankroll

[wooden cobalt]

It takes time for platforms to accept the patch

Yes that can take a while

[candid aspen]

and this game then seems to be the only one with that issue. other games i play on multi platforms say its taking forever when its over an hour for approval to push the patches. they havnt even pushed it yet.

idleon for example on all platforms steam epic ios and google takes on average 5 minutes to get a hotfix out

[wooden cobalt]

👍

[echo crow]

Whenever this happens.. i feel like there is an inside job by the game programmers to make these bugs... 🤭 this happens every update since i started playing way back in 2020 😀

[dense bramble]

i really dont understand all the moaning. the only issue thats really affecting my game is no bonus from wep skills. its not gonna kill me to wait a cpl of days for a fix. and btw, new players aint gonna feel this affect so will play happily unaware

[mystic pike]

Simp harder..

[wooden cobalt]

No need to be rude.

[mystic pike]

Sorry, I guess something in me broke when I read that message. I still remember the unsightly horror when we found them (my heroes) outside Elysium Extreme, shattered and broken in despair.. it was supposed to be a typical errand of collecting components for the King's Caprice, alas they succumbed to the debilitating 17.0.0 curse..

[candid aspen]

yah i had a few quests out on extreme bosses eating a 1 day rest timer

[mystic pike]

I've just noticed there is a 'loot frenzy' mini event, giving you 100% component boosts, at least that's something..

[mint token]

i mean they have a point 😄

[wooden cobalt]

No, not at all

[mint token]

anyway, do we know when this hotfix will be out?

[wooden cobalt]

Nope

Keep an eye on#📢｜announcements

They will announce it there if the fix is rolling out

[stable atlas]

Still an issue somewhere with spellknight. Others seem OK now

Power was about 100k before

[stable atlas]

Ah ok

[stark barn]

22,2K before hotfix, and 17,5K after the hotfix

[ancient wraith]

Ninja/Sensei star power was adjusted too, though doesn't impact their actual stats

[granite prawn]

Heya, any updates on this by chance? my 200k + dancer is now a 77k dancer. All the best

[sly fable]

Update the app, its fixed

[granite prawn]

Thanks you @sly fable it worked

[fiery briar]

seeing my other heroes got fixed in score but not spellknight and go to here to see some info...
it's slightly nerf for my build which ramp up all to atk

[regal kelp]

Just noticed my sensei is still weaker than before the past update. Gear and skills haven't changed. I just added 5 levels to her and she is still weaker than before. Looks like it's still the weapon skill bug.

I thought it was supposed to be resolved?

[regal kelp]

Ok thank you.

[vocal bolt]

I noticed that Hit chance and evasion was more than expected, so it has to be fixed, that's true. Ninja were very overpowered, but .... the fix made them probably one of the weaker rogue class now. Before my 3 ninjas were killing everything, now they have 75% chance to die before end of fight.

[frail minnow]

My understanding is nothing changed with the ninja, their actual stats are still the same, the power rating was just artificially high. But for questing they are the same.

[vocal bolt]

No they are now very weak as their evasion and crit rate are fixed.

[wooden cobalt]

Nope, nothing changed

Just star power visual

[vocal bolt]

Sorry, as i'm not english maybe i don't understand well. I understand that power rating calculation changed and the stats didn't changed, it was computed with 100% crit and 75% evasion. But .... before my ninja were 75% crit chance but acting like 100% crit, il means that they were making crit all the time, and evading 75% even if they had 50%. What i noticed personaly, because i watch fights to optimize and balance my teams, is that before the fix all my ninjas had the behavior of a 100% crit and 75% evading, not only on power calculation, but really in fights. So they were very overpowered. What i observe with the fix is that they use their reals stats now, so for me between 75 and 85% crit and 45-50% evade for my 3 ninjas. So they are very less efficient in damage and they nearly always die because 45-50% evading is not the same at all as 75% and with their low health points they die with 2 shots each time. What i'm saying is that before, the bug was not only on power rating but also on real behavior in fights, from overpowered, they became weak.

[frail minnow]

Ninja's are squishy... Mine never dies though and I only run Elysium extreme. I would definitely recommend going with more Hit Point gear if you can.