I haven't studied music, but I want remake several songs.

[steady phoenix]

I haven't studied music, but recently I've started to be eager to compose songs. So, I asked some questions on several online forums, and they say that remaking songs on MIDI is helpful if I don't know anything about music.

I don't know even how to play piano, and any theories related to music, but they said that remaking music on MIDI is helpful.

I want to start remaking those songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlhlvB_Tg_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu8IIhG4XE4

Where is a good point start from?
I don't want to argue with you all for a well-worn clich that I need to do other things instead of remaking them.
I just want to start remaking them, and how can I remake those songs on MIDI.
Even if I don't know how to play piano, I heard that there is no problem in remaking them on MIDI.
So, what point should I start from? Finding synthesiser sound is where I should start from?

[ionic lance]

Do you have a DAW? Some sort of software to make music in.

[steady phoenix]

I've already installed DAW. But, I didn't installed any additional VSTs.

[steady phoenix]

So, what should I do after that?

[ionic lance]

There are lots of things you could do. However trying to transcribe those songs you have posted back into midi is going to be way to challenging if you have no music theory knowledge or ear training. I think the first step should be to mess around with your daw and learn how everything works. Understand the mixer channels, how to write midi, what a chord is, etc.

[steady phoenix]

I’ve been messing around my DAW, and I wanna transcribe those songs right, now.

[ionic lance]

Step 1: get your song as an mp3 and put it into a track in your daw

step 2: figure out the tempo and set your project tempo to that

Step 3: listen by ear and copy everything

[steady phoenix]

Okay.

I go to do the step 2, then I’ll ask other questions, then.

[mild mountain]

if u dont wanna argue we dont have 2 argue, but im gonna be real with you, it's gonna take u a year to transcribe either of these songs if u have no experience in music. i agree transcribing and remaking songs is a good way to improve, but you ARE going to hit an absolute brickwall if u set such a lofy goal unless you're the one in 100000 who happens to have perfect pitch and not know about it.

go for it, but don't be discouraged if you completely fail. you're giving yourself what is basically an impossible goal.

just to be fair, some general transcribing guidelines: once you've finished figuring out the tempo, you should try to figure out what key the song is in. if you don't know what that means, it is essentially the note that feels most "at home". after that it's pretty subjective how you go about transcription. personally, if I can recognize the chord progression right off the bat, i will immediately transcribe that (for example a 12 bar blues is very recognizable for me, as are 2-5-1's). if not, i will go for the primary melody first, and then figure out the basic triads of the chords, and then extensions, then the individual parts.

[ionic lance]

they are a brickwall man

[steady phoenix]

Thanks.

[steady phoenix]

So, is there any tutorial explains how to find basic triads in a song online?

[limpid solar]

@steady phoenix first step is getting a piano and learning basic theory

[steady phoenix]

i have no money to buy a piano.

and, i wanna remake a song right, now.

[limpid solar]

Ok then what are you going to do

[steady phoenix]

i'm going to remake this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVr1d600amk

[limpid solar]

Unfortunately there's no quick easy process to remake a song and learn to compose

[steady phoenix]

is there no way to find triads simply?

[limpid solar]

There is actually!

I can find triads instantly

[steady phoenix]

so, please tell me how.

[limpid solar]

1. Get a piano
2. Study theory
3. Train your ears

After a few years you should be able to hear chords pretty easily!

[steady phoenix]

i don't want to spend few years.

it's way too long.

what i wanna do is starting remaking that song within 1 week.

[limpid solar]

Ok well how are you going to do that

[steady phoenix]

i plan to open my daw, then i'm going to put some notes in the daw.

after i do that, please, tell me how to fix it?

[limpid solar]

That's a good start!

[limpid solar]

Make sure they are the right notes

[steady phoenix]

okay, i'll try.

[limpid solar]

Assuming you're not trolling..
There are a lot of elements that go into making music, music theory, sound synthesis, production techniques, composition/song writing skills, etc and none can really be learned in a week

Re creating a song like that is a really good way to practice and improve your skills, but I'd recommend you get at least the basics of everything down first, otherwise it will be way too overwhelming and you won't make any progress

Start with a really simple project and just try to make something

[steady phoenix]

i have no plan other than remaking that song.

[limpid solar]

Even a pro might struggle to recreate a song like that in a week

[limpid solar]

Ok, good luck!

[steady phoenix]

okay, i'll try.

i'll upload it later.