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slim dagger
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no I can still play the game

winged sail
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You are the only one it seems

digital dust
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there's 2 clusters, one cluster is down and the other one is still up

dull current
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Locked out of account ?

sonic hearth
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Wargaming. Please add a feature letting us sell any type of camouflage. I have so many common camouflages that I never use nor will I ever use them. Could you please add a feature letting us sell them?

earnest finch
lethal field
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Servers for NA are updating I’m pretty sure, saw something from Aeson about it

slim dagger
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I am on eu and I play like 1 and half a hour and didnt get kicked

bleak canyon
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It says connecting but won’t move past that

trail dune
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server crash

sonic hearth
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NA server are down btw

midnight spindle
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If they are going to do mini updates they should let us players know so we dont think they just messed up... I mean c'mon...

sonic hearth
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@midnight spindle I recommend getting "Blitz post" bot. It told me that NA servers were down

pine wing
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Wat happened with asia matchmaking? Why there's so many white winrater in tier X?

broken badger
rapid dagger
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Hey, i want T6E1 too😥

kind crater
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Foot

strong ledge
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any tier x premium tank gonna come soon??

tacit bough
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Obj260 t10 heavy but its a collector I believe not 100% sure

digital dust
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260 is indeed a collector but it probably won't come soon

pine wing
errant depot
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It's a heavium. DPM is best among the T10 Russian heavies.

restive bison
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It doesn’t look like it has amazing speed tho, if I they release it as it is, I’d rather play an IS-7

still valley
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its power to weight is 23 i think mobility is great

restive bison
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Still, it’s armour is complete garbage, it deserves some buffs to it’s armour, not a ton but a little

dry marsh
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It's gun is jacked up compared to is7 and is4 and its effective power to weight is much better, its terrain resistance is better than is7 and its traverse speed is much better than is7 and is4

Also amazing shell velocity

digital dust
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pretty much just top tier med hunter

brave hound
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Rage quit for the win.....

midnight spindle
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oglądam kalucha

sacred sphinx
fallow acorn
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ok

worldly zephyr
restive bison
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Cocaine addicted T95 at tier 8 when?

lucid ravine
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@sacred sphinx you decide ?

midnight spindle
undone pelican
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@midnight spindle every Russian tank in game is soviet

midnight spindle
dire pilot
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@midnight spindle perfectionist

undone pelican
vagrant karma
mint hound
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In Blitz russian = soviet

vagrant karma
midnight spindle
wintry hound
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If you bought VK90, Kranvagen or T54e2 (Shark) without camos, you can now get them with 30% discount (previously where not sold at all and then with full price only, you dont get those pop-up offers for these camos).

mint hound
midnight spindle
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Hello! I was fortunate enough to have v90 on the game twice. but got some credit compensation when that is a rare trait. can you help me? blitz support told me to contact the developers on Discord, but I don't know how. the vk90 has always had gold compensation because it is a rare tank

broken badger
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Uhh I"m not sure how can I help you. If you ask why you have only a little of silver for X collectible instead of even 2000k gold my answer is WG is stingy.

mint hound
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@midnight spindle These crates are sold for gold, so they wouldn’t give you gold back. It’s a good idea to read the description to avoid this happening. If it still doesn’t say anything, then ask around here and someone might know

broken badger
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@midnight spindle Could I ask, for how many crates how many tanks dropped?
Also like TacNayn said, read description next time. But it's a shame they won't even give 1,5k gold ( one case price ) for a vk if you already have it but if they would sell it for gold it would cost 15k gold +

tropic oxide
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how much will the update be?

midnight spindle
mint hound
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Might’ve been a good idea to sell off any collectors that drop in crates, and then after you open all the crates you buy back the collector for the same price. If you didn’t have the VK90 before, you could’ve made 7.5k gold and also had a VK90, along with the others

gilded marlin
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here we go again - server crashes

pliant citrus
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Server crashes

slim spoke
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i cant Iog into bIitz for some reason

midnight spindle
mild vessel
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Wg server mega op

midnight spindle
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The servers crashed like Na

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Ok

broken badger
mint hound
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Nothing stingy in this... You can’t expect to spend 3k gold on some crate and then get gold back from already having the tank. It’s always been like this. Crates for gold just don’t give you gold as compensation. If you want gold compensation, that only comes from crates where you spend real money. No matter how rare the tank you don’t get gold compensation from spending gold

broken badger
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Why can't I expect?, I know it have been like this for a long time already. as an example vk90 in shop would cost 15K gold, one crate with it costs 1.5K. If they wouldn't be stingy they would give atleast this 1.5K gold for Tier 10. I remind theres 10% chance only soo you should have 1 tank guaranteed on 10 crates which is 15K without discounts. This 3M for tier 10 they give is laughable for people that spend much money in that game especially.

mint hound
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10% chance does not guarantee any tank

astral cargo
broken badger
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I know. I used it as an example to explain why WG is stingy.

mint hound
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A chance at a tier X for 1.5k gold is stingy?

lavish ridge
# astral cargo Lesson: don’t gamble at all By the way, 10% chance doesn’t mean you get a tank i...

lesson: be careful with your money, only spend it if you know exactly what youre getting. WG and other publishers (EA, Activision) will never make the odds in your favor, thats bad business

Edit for @astral cargo : I agree that spending money online is a gamble because at any time servers could just be shut off or things can be power crept/nerfed. I personally spend money on WoTB because I want to help wg continue updating wotb because I think theyve made a fantastic game. the game has its issues but I love it at its core

astral cargo
broken badger
# mint hound A chance at a tier X for 1.5k gold is stingy?

Wheres this 1.5K gold for X tier? I see 3M of silver.

@lavish ridge I would spend some money for that game too maybe if they wouldn't have such a ignorant policy for normal players, wouldn't destroy the game like they do now, and they wouldn't be that much into pumping money.

mint hound
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It’s clear the crates are a bad deal. If you have the tank you get compensation you don’t like. If you don’t get a tank, you get bad value for your gold. If you still want to gamble you just accept whatever you get. If you don’t like the rewards, don’t buy it. If WG can’t sell crates, they stop selling them. WG only puts out crates because people buy them

@lavish ridge Each crate is 1.5k gold. So some do get a tier X for 1.5k gold

lavish ridge
# broken badger Wheres this 1.5K gold for X tier? I see 3M of silver. <@!579385607848198149> I...

I havent checked the store, im just going off what people are saying in the chat

I wouldnt consider this game pay to win for normal players, especially compared to WoT pc. I cant deny the existence of OP premiums (annihilator for example) but most pay to win elements of wot pc thankfully arent the same in wot blitz.
I think wot blitz players are lucky that wot blitz hasnt turned into wot pc where every element (consumables, crew skills, equipment and premium rounds) is pay to win

broken badger
# mint hound It’s clear the crates are a bad deal. If you have the tank you get compensation ...

Ikr, I'm wondering how that game will look in a few months because they are really ruining it rn and more and more people are buying things from them... same situation with events, people buy these damn PB soo WG will do them and have normal events deep till people stop, and they won't... I hope I will be still able to play thought I'm annoyed on the game and policy already.

@lavish ridge Well by meaning of p2w orginally yes, but my point is they are pumping money from everything like EA did, and when I say p2w on blitz topic I mean more like they stopped doing good events for everyone but instead of that they just spam Battle Pass sh*t for people who play. Like I was complaining about lunar before, there always was a big and good event on chinese new year, and this time we got a "event" with trash ( except gold boosters, not many tho ) rewards which can be completed in one day and we have to be satisfacted with it. I'm not obviously

lavish ridge
# broken badger Ikr, I'm wondering how that game will look in a few months because they are real...

I wouldnt say its like EA does, EA is more shameful because they do annual released for full AAA price tags. I wouldnt say theyre doing worse events, the one we just had wasnt much special because it had no premiums but it wasnt that long ago that we had the E75 TS event where it was very easy to get a good tier 8 premium for free. for the battle pass, I like it. I would much rather they do battle passes than just keep churning out increasingly better premium tanks.

midnight spindle
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It's not even a comparison.

Wargaming offers a free game that you don't have to spend a penny in to be competitive. Arguably the best tanks in the game are tech tree tanks that you can earn for free.

I love the argument that Wargaming doesn't give out enough free stuff... When the literal game is free.

sonic hearth
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But premium tanks gives you an advantage though.

broken badger
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Yes E75 Ts was a good event, but this chinese new year one is a total defeat. I don't like spamin BP honestly. Anyway I'll write later.

midnight spindle
spark thorn
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Hi

lavish ridge
broken badger
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@midnight spindle You keep saying same thing, Of course they aren't obligated to give free stuff for players, but they do and lately I noticed they stopped doing good events and instead of them they just spam small events with nothing really interesting to win, and I don't like that. I don't like BP spam but I know they are earning alot money from that and I'm fine with it. But I'm not fine it affects normal players who don't want to spend money. I don't really have time and energy to write more now so I am writing this very simplified.

midnight spindle
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Then quit

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Wargaming doesn't owe you free stuff.

lavish ridge
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thats not really true, we just had the e75 ts event, which is a tier 8 prem. previously they didnt do tier 8 prems so the delay is justified that way

broken badger
# midnight spindle Wargaming doesn't owe you free stuff.

"Then quit" I think staff is not supposed to say things like that, don't you want more players in game? And again and again you keep saying same, I just said that in my message. I don't think I can come to an understanding with you...

@lavish ridge Did you joined in 2020? I bet if you just wrote "They didn't give 8 before" 2020 Chinese new year - Tier 6 Tier 8, 2019 Chinese new year - Tier 8, Chinese new year event - Tier 7, Tier 8, and I said only chinese events, and there was lot more events for tier 8, watch some old videos on youtube.

undone pelican
midnight spindle
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Is this arguement still going on?!?!?!?!?!?

midnight spindle
dry marsh
zenith bison
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people still think that the server moderators are related to WG somehow, lol

midnight spindle
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How about we discuss how cool the double treads on the new AE Phase tank are going to be?

lavish ridge
dry marsh
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The double treads on the AE phase 1 tank look cool but has no additional purpose, so the tank is just a better m103

@broken badger Except he isn't staff, he isn't payed therefore not employed, therefore isn't staff

@lucid latch Except the game is FREE TO PLAY, you do not need to Pay for the game

broken badger
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@midnight spindle Officialy you're not working in WG, but you're Moderator on discord soo you are staff, And staff are not supposed to say things like "quit the game if you don't like"

zenith bison
midnight spindle
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There is nothing wrong with me telling someone to quit if they're not happy.

lucid latch
midnight spindle
midnight spindle
lethal field
urban geodeBOT
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dynoSuccess Heinige30#9289 has been warned.

zenith bison
rapid mango
spark thorn
gilded scaffold
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Wg why does my game keep freezing I was on Normandy my game froze and my military honor went from 5 to 3 please can you fix this

jagged cairn
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Hey wg please do us all a favor and work on the matchmaker. I can’t lose 6 battles in a row with 3-4 K damage when I face 4 guys

undone pelican
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obligatory “MM is random”

jagged cairn
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For sure 😂😂😂

tight gorge
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@gilded scaffold why are you crying?

midnight spindle
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@jagged cairn it is. Matchmaking is applied equally but randomly to all of us. We all play with and against the same players. The only consistent factor in every game you play is you.

twilit grotto
rapid mango
slender laurel
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why does the valentine II even exist? its literally just a pz B2 with absolutely every aspects nerfed

rapid mango
gilded scaffold
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@rapid mango thanks for the help

unkempt ivy
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Well, I was going to ask something to Wargaming on the #808691802592378881 , but it seems I was too late to place my question, but I'm just gonna leave my question here, if that's ok.

I have an idea for a crew voice, how about the Blitz nation crew voice is basically the voices of the people working on wotb, and, if possible, can each Blitz nation tank have its own crew voice?

swift plover
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uh bro the German tank crew speak German, Russian tank crew speak Russian, and French and Japanese crews speak French and Japanese respectively. What else do u want?

urban geodeBOT
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dynoSuccess Alessandro_#2786 was muted

zenith bison
# swift plover uh bro the German tank crew speak German, Russian tank crew speak Russian, and F...

Maybe a british crew that speaks british english, of actual crew voices for the main lines of Pan European Tech tree (Italian, swedish and soon czech too)

If I'm not mistaken, when you turn the game language to Italian, Swedish or Czech and also turn off national crew voice, the tanks will stark talking in Italian, Swedish and Czech respectively. So I just wonder why WG never fixed the crew voices if they already have those voices.

hard ravine
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laziness

tropic moon
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What i last heard was they couldn't get tanks in the same tech tree to have different crew voices. A bit strange tho, if the modding community has been doing this for years

raven wasp
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Always premium or collector tanks, .. no new techtrees..

You make like 5-10 new prem./coll. tanks per month but it’s impossible to make new techtrees..

Why you dont involve the Obj 907 in a new techtree,.. no no it’s better to make cash with it .. always the same, reason why I quitted the game

undone pelican
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907 is a reward tank in PC, not a tech tree tank lol, also getting the TVP very soon, and a very high likelihood of the 60TP coming as well

vocal pollen
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One thing i would really like to see in blitz

Campaigns to get prem/collector tanks without being able to skip levels with anything, for example, being able to get the Obj 907 as a reward but you have to play to be able to get it, no money can be spent to get it

hard ravine
broken badger
# rapid mango "nothing really interesting to win" i don't understand how research certificates...

I more meant I don't like spam of small events with small rewards which you can complete in one day. I would rather have less events but bigger with more and way better rewards.

Theres very small amount of silver, 3 days are ok, garage slot is cool, this camo is pretty meh, and gold boostes are ok, I like 8 ad 10 tier research "boosters" however it will cause too a plague of noobs on 10 tier, soo I think I would rather get other reward, and thats why you can't spam these too often btw.

and souvenirs are junk, why 3 instead of 1? It's making a mess in warehouse and are worth nothing ngl.

native olive
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If the "AE phase I" comes in to the game, how will the track system work? Will it be harder to immobilize the tank, or is it just a cool feature that wont change the mechanics at all?

broken badger
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sorry, well WG needs to do something about it. They are giving ton of boosters, free exp and research discounts to players that plague of newcomers and noobs have invaded high tiers and you can't have normal match daytime even on X. It's destroying joy of playing the game.

broken badger
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As an addition to that, in my opinion rating battles mission should be deleted.
-You force players who manage poorly to play rating battles.
-People who are home after 23:00 can't make all missions. It is unfair for them.

zenith bison
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@native olive i believe that the tank will work as like every other tank, but instead of 2 tracks, it'll have 4. Same track physics but with a slightly different track hit box.

analog haven
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Hello, I wanna ask about the realistic mode.
My brother said that it's much harder than before; the tank show whenever being pointed. In the older version, after a shot or under 30m of distance, it was spotted.
Can u check it and make it much more like old version? Because we think that the newer version is not very "realistic"

gleaming moon
analog haven
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We make it even more fun: became a radar for team.
Swipe 360 around and wait for the tank to zoom 🙂

brave hound
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Just rage quit this pile, tank force, tank legion and tank strike are fairer with better matchmaking. Won more in one battle than ten on here. Sure ill get blasted but WTH.
Peace oht.

dry marsh
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Ok bye I didn’t even know you existed

stray tundra
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I can t write in battle chat and also my tank is moving alone sometimes. Any ideas what is it?

undone pelican
slender laurel
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man they are actually preventing players from buying the x5 xp packs. if i buy the 170x thing in the shop, i will have to not play premiums for 300 battles, which means i cant earn credits at all, which means i cant buy more tech tree tanks to even use the thing in the first place. why cant they just allow us to toggle it on and off on demand?

worldly current
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Just delete all x5 and stupid boosters.

fickle elk
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Надо х10 бустеры

broken badger
mint hound
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If they have that little free time why even be this serious for a game

undone pelican
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^ and also what kinda work forces it’s employees to get home very late (past normal 9-5 hours)

broken badger
# slender laurel man they are actually preventing players from buying the x5 xp packs. if i buy t...

bruh "preventing players from buying X5, just look in PB and shop. Everywhere X5.

@mint hound I'm just saying it is unfair. They can have a same free time as other people who work but for example they are going to work at 8PM, soo they are home after 4AM for example and then they have free time, and rating battles are off at the time. Missions resets every day at 12AM right? All missions should be possible to do in this 24h period. Rating battle mission is only mission which cannot be done in this full time period. And the second thing is as I said above they force "noobs" to play rating battles.

mint hound
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No one is really being forced. You can avoid the ratings missions and still get both the large crates (320 and 600 keys), and youll just miss out on the 120 key daily crates for those days. Removing the mission means fewer players in ratings, which is a problem, and changing the timings for ratings also leads to fewer players in ratings at any one time. The amount of players who have this timing issue cant be big enough that WG will care to remove a mission just for them

astral cargo
broken badger
jagged pivot
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Um mods^

mighty hound
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7.5 charts pls

tidal linden
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Hello, does any dev can answer me if we will have some device or OS that will not be able to run the game?

sacred sphinx
slender laurel
empty mesa
surreal egret
slender laurel
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well of course im not gonna buy it, but im saying wg is making it harder for both players and themselves just from something easily fixable

woeful spade
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I don’t understand the issue here. It’s not like the xp runs away after you ground it. And the x5 certificates also don’t expire after purchasing them

midnight spindle
undone pelican
surreal egret
midnight spindle
regal mortar
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Anyone knows about account resetting?

echo maple
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Hey WG defs. There are additional rumors out now that the Matchmaker is rigged to make good players Lose more. Armored pants Released a Video now with what He calls proof (which however is BS bc He uses Mad games Matches which hardly have anything to Do with skills and bc He forgets to control for Personal abilities over time which violates the C. P. Assumption Hard) and other Youtubers did Videos on the topic as well. Firstly, i dont believe the MM is rigged, i Analyzed my random Matches and there was no rigging to be found. However, i hate the fact that random Youtubers play into the opinion of some players and Tell them the MM is rigged and that they cannot do anything against it. They basically fire up negative opinions about WG. I would really like some Kind of official Statement and some examples that Show how the MM isnt rigged and does Not want good players to Lose. Some Youtubers like Martin Dogger and Droodles have done Videos about it and tried to convince players its Not rigged however false Info is sticky. So can you please Do something about it? (i dont think the MM is flawless, however i think its Not rigged)

broken badger
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I don't know how youtubers state it but MM is bad ngl. I lost in the weekend 0,15% wr playing like 60 battles. For example I have 2 blue wr and 5 gray wr in battle and enemy has green wr. I will lose, this game is much about teamwork. I won't win with one good player and 5 noobs against 7 decent.

echo maple
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Sorry for Posting it Here as well as in the Update discussion, wasnt Sure where to put it

mystic pelican
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MM is balanced by the tanks both teams have not by the player skills. In my opinion player skills should also be considered in MM ans well as the tanks both teams use. When one team gets all the noobs and the other team all the decent players the MM will suck than and the outcome of the battle is clear. Also a 48%wr is considere as average and therefor i like to see in tier 8-10 players with 48%wr and above. This will make tier 8-10 exclusive for players with some skills and for lower wr people a goal to improve themselves to play in those tiers

echo maple
# mystic pelican MM is balanced by the tanks both teams have not by the player skills. In my opi...

But how Do you measures skill? Winrate is hardly a good proxy for that and other metrics will make the waiting time even longer. What i would Do is introduce sub classes like Superheavy, turreted TD, scout, etc and making Sure every Team gets the same amount of tanks of each sub class from the same tier. Had a Match in which the enemy Team had 2 lights, we didnt even have one. That should not be possible. However skill based MM can Not be the solution as a proxy for skill is very Hard to find.

sacred belfry
# echo maple Hey WG defs. There are additional rumors out now that the Matchmaker is rigged t...

I haven't watched the video, but I've seen summaries of it, and it seems like all he did was just rehash an article written by jylpah from EU server, which shows that it is likely that the fun modes like mad games, realistic, gravity, etc... do have some skill based matchmaking implemented (probably using career wr as a proxy)

But what the video leaves out is that the article also shows that normal battles are not rigged, and are indeed, random

echo maple
# sacred belfry I haven't watched the video, but I've seen summaries of it, and it seems like al...

He Analyzed the MM in mad games and found the enemy Team to have a higher average winrate than his Team. That is his whole Argument for a rigged MM. He says its rigged and wants people with higher winrates, as both of the cases Analyzed had over 60% to Lose as they are Matched with lower wr players. The Thing is, He knows WR is Not a good proxy for skill but He doenst say it in the Video which is my first problem with the whole Thing. Secondly analyzing mad games is really Not a good Mode as winning or losing there has very little to Do with skills imho. Also what you said, He leaves out that random battles are in fact random. And its that Kind of misinformation i dislike and why i asked for official Statements so that we can leave that whole mm is rigged BS behind us as i feel it makes the community more toxic towards WG for something that isnt actually there.

woeful spade
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I am opposed to the idea of matching ‘sub-classes’ one to one against each other. That would make the battles fair, and furthermore it would most likely lead to the teams mirroring each other, leading to a high degree of repetitiveness and a severe loss of fun as a result.

Imbalance creates fun

midnight spindle
zenith bison
regal mortar
zenith bison
# regal mortar Not even tank balance. My team was yesterday 2 Maus 1 Mäuschen 1 E100 1 jge10...

and you really think that there's a conspiracy about MM choosing the "best" team design and which team will win or lose?

MM don't know which tanks are good, bad or OP, it just choose aleatory based in only 2 things (4 if you play in EU or RU servers)

  • Number of tank types (there can't be more than 4 tanks at the same type at tier 5-10 as I remmeber)
  • Equality of tiers, both teams will have the same number of tanks in bottom tier or in top tier (also, you won't see 2 tiers higher or lower unless if there's a failtoon)
    On EU/RU servers:
  • less than 30% wr players go to a special mm with more 30% players and bots
  • newbies (less than 5k battles according to MM) will get a MM with more newbies and bots
broken badger
echo maple
# broken badger No need for more classes, it's bad idea. And I like <@!217737288703148034> idea,...

I wouldnt bring them as official classes but something just for the matchmaker to know so that He can put the team composition together as fair as possible. However i have to admit that might create too much of a boring experience.

The Problem is you cannot really keep players from playing a certain tier just by winrate alone as that would create seal clubbing. I would introduce a Minimum career average damage requirement of 100 * tier you want to play. So you need 800 average career damage to play tier 8. And then i would maybe also introduce the requirement to have at least 1 third class medal in the lower tier, so a 3rd class medal in Tier 7 and 800 career average damage to play tier 8

digital dust
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"no 48% wr" so basically half the game's playerbase. Have fun getting into games within a minute and have fun losing more games

red scaffold
midnight spindle
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Why is the chat button (bottom right edge of the screen) in the touch editor not moveable? I have 2-5 in a battle the problem that it pops up and then i can not aim at the opponent. I do not touch it by my finger, but somehow with my hand when I hold the ipad. All the other buttons are able to move in the touch editor except this button. Technically it should not be a problem to make this button also moveable.

midnight spindle
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Hello developers you are doing a great job!

frozen ravine
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I have my own conspiracy theory that wargaming bases matchmaking on previous game performance to try and hook players onto the game, make them want to keep playing one more game just to win. But idk lately I’ve been winning a lot

inner lily
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When will there be 3 player platoons

noble crystal
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When blitz becomes a 15v15? (aka never because you sure don't want to have to carry 3 bad players in a toon against three pros in a toon)

midnight spindle
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I hope they never add 3 player platoon, i dont want see on enemy team 3 broken premium/collection tonk

copper trench
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10v10 plez?

split epoch
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no

trim oar
echo maple
valid merlin
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dev answers ruined because the dude that asked whether smasher and annihilator would be nerfed didnt put it as his first question, alright, fingers crossed it gets a good answer

prime gazelle
mint hound
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Interesting. Cant wait to see what the answer is for that

midnight spindle
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excellent

copper trench
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Part 2 answers when? lol

astral cargo
mighty hound
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7.5 charts?

prime gazelle
neon nebula
gleaming moon
midnight spindle
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HE shels don't have penetracion becouse the explode on impact. The explosion mass and the shrapnal is what damages a tank.

midnight spindle
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@prime gazelle
Good morning!

Will these realistic tournaments be in 2v2...5v5 or normal (7v7) format?

broken badger
echo maple
midnight spindle
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@broken badger what makes you think that you get to say who should and shouldn't play?

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For the millionth time. This is a free to play mobile game. You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect all players to hit battle and really care about the results.

If players are as good as they think they are then they should be able to cover the inequities of their team the vast majority of the time.

broken badger
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omg, you stick to the words themselves, not thinking what autor mean...

I'm saying theres plague of newcomers who doesn't do really well, and you can't play normally on daytime and wg should do something about it. They gave tons of free exp for players and here we have.
I don't think you ever played this game if you say "If players are as good as they think they are then they should be able to cover the inequities of their team." You can't win alone in this game. Even freaking EG guy which has for example 40K battles and 70wr% won't win alone. Teamwork is a key to win... so stop talking nonsense

digital dust
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except you can still be damn good at the game without having a 100% wr
Exhibit 1: the EG guys

midnight spindle
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Imagine thinking that you should get to pick who does and who doesn't play in certain tiers.

urban geodeBOT
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dynoSuccess SKOT#8773 has been warned.

midnight spindle
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Eliminating a % of the player base from playing particular tiers because they do not meet your arbitrary metrics is asinine. That is not how you build a product. We all get tired of running into bad players, the difference is that some of us focus on what we could be doing better, how we could have better covered the inequities of our team in order to generate a win. Unfortunately there are others among us who seem to think that the solution is to just tell people that "you're not good enough to play here". That is an incredibly selfish and shortsighted stance to take.

Where and when other players play is not up to you.

valid hamlet
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because someone camping in a heavy tank in teir 10 is obviously fit to fight average teir 10 players

midnight spindle
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Kek, you act like tier X is some country club where the normal peons aren't welcome. It isn't. It's just another tier and if a player has the credits and tanks to be there who are you to say they shouldn't be?

digital dust
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gonna be honest if you think tier 10 players are good you're in for a wild ride

broken badger
# midnight spindle Imagine thinking that you should get to pick who does and who doesn't play in ce...

Imagine spartacus analyzing what I"m writing and bring something smart to conversation which has actual reference to what I'm writing instead of invading me. You always just keep writing same ridiculous thing whole time you confront me.

Really that 4 letters word with one letter replaced by * was a reason to warn?
Anyway wow it worked.

"We all get tired of running into bad players, the difference is that some of us focus on what we could be doing better, how we could have better covered the inequities of our team in order to generate a win." Yes, however you can't win alone.

"Unfortunately there are others among us who seem to think that the solution is to just tell people that "you're not good enough to play here". That is an incredibly selfish and shortsighted stance to take." No it's not any solution, and have no right to work. First, WG made for newcomers too easy to climb up for X, remember update where they deleted half of lower tiers? It made grinding alot faster. Also because of that they learn less on these tiers. Plus they give tons of free exp to players now

midnight spindle
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I'm sorry you find my logical take on things "ridiculous".

I can't make this any clearer and I'm tired of repeating myself. There have always been bad players in tier X and their probably will continue to be bad players in tier X for the foreseeable future. I don't like it but I accept it. I understand that my roll is to play the game. It isn't to arbitrarily make demands on who should and should not be able to play there.

dry marsh
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Yeah But if people spent time and effort into reaching tier 10 they should be allowed to play.

midnight spindle
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Bingo

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It really sounds like some folks need to find a nice single player game to play.

broken badger
# midnight spindle I'm sorry you find my logical take on things "ridiculous". I can't make this ...

Your logical take on things are repeating same thing such as "WG is not obligated to give you anything" or "what makes you think that you get to say who should and shouldn't play?" repeating it whole time 3 times in a row after I send message explaining what I mean about the topic.

Yes there always was bad players, but last times it's a plague.

@dry marsh Yes they are allowed to play but the thing is, they don't have to spend too much effort making one tier X from the start now. WG is spamming with free exp and silver, they made their start much easier on lower tiers removing lots of tanks. It's too easy to make X now for newcomers... WG should make some steps into "educating" new players about the game. And stop spamming with X5, free exp, silver and things which help alot in grinding. Not all, but they give too much now. It would really improve MM at high tiers.

frozen ravine
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Nah I like the free stuff wg gives. Not everyone has 30k battles and all tanks unlocked

waxen dome
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@frozen ravine u get t15?

zenith bison
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Pretty sad that WG don't want PvE modes or even make bots on training rooms a thing. Honestly I expect them to reconsider it because we'll never see a gamemode like WoT Homefront like this, neither in rooms or officially.

valid frost
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i think tier10 is not good place for finding better players. it struggles a lot because of players dont know what their doing. Simply all worse players thinks tier10 is best tier but playing tier10 is nonesense unless you are in rating. You are not grinding any tech tree, you are not earning good amount of money (exc. premiums).

broken badger
digital dust
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And where do you draw the line between newcomers and people who aren't newcomers?

midnight spindle
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Exactly. And once again who are you to decide who should get to play where?

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This is a game for EVERYONE. If someone has the tanks and credits to play tier X then they have every right to play tier X.

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Ultimately if the players you face aren't up to your standards find some friends and play in training rooms or play in tournaments.

urban geodeBOT
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dynoSuccess Bey#1000 has been warned.

broken badger
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omg spartacus AND ONCE AGAIN I'm not to decide who should play tier X. All I'm saying theres plague of newcomers on tier X, and WG should take some steps to prevent it. Like less giving out free exp x3 and things like that because thy are giving it out alot now, and educate new players more maybe?

and just again like I said earlier you keep saying same thing... Read carefully what I wrote and start giving answers to the topic itself.

midnight spindle
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Repeating your opinion doesn't make it a fact.

digital dust
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All I'm saying theres plague of newcomers on tier X, and WG should take some steps to prevent it. Like less giving out free exp x3 and things like that because thy are giving it out alot now, and educate new players more maybe?
idk bruh that sounds like deciding who should play tier 10 to me

midnight spindle
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I'm telling you that you are trying to seek "fixes" to something that cannot be fixed. You can't make players develop "give a care". And making it so that certain players can't play in certain areas just drives away potentially paying customers.

Personally I love the free xp. Give me more of it. I despise stock grinding.

midnight spindle
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Oh boy, just ban all players from playing, simple fix

undone pelican
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the best fix would probably be a tutorial rework, by only showing players how to shoot, like training a soldier only how to pull the trigger and reload

zenith bison
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this guy sent the best idea ever, someone give him a prize rn!

rocky wharf
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Want a cookie? 🍪

radiant maple
sinful nacelle
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A problem that I personally find annoying and sometimes somewhat frustrates me is the fact that new players can literally buy a tier 10 premium tank right after completing the tutorial, which isn't really a good idea in my opinion, but I guess having a new player who used a wallet being in tier 10 with < 10 battles totally makes sense.

frozen ravine
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Wargaming should have like an tutorial page on the game sidebar where it has well known spots for every map, description of how to play each tank, and maybe advice from a few select players on where they go for each map and how they use each tank

frozen ravine
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It’s like playing chess, you need someone to tell you how each piece moves and where they go. Currently blitz is like introducing new players to chess and telling them to figure it out with no information about what each piece does

worldly jasper
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Actually not just don’t shoot the red spot and everything’s gonna be fine.

gleaming moon
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Encountered one of these today, luckily he is on enemy team, i have no idea what's up on his mind to jump straight to tier 8 and end up dying in seconds in battle 🤦‍♂️

inner lily
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When will update 7.7 hit

gloomy ocean
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24 februari is what i have heard

daring gale
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🤔 how about the idea of locking the ability to purchase and tier 1-10 premium/collector tanks? And only being able to lock specific tier once you researched and purchased a tank that is the same tier?

Example: You researched the SU-122-54, you brought it also, and played a few battles in it, after that you gained the ability to purchase tier 9 premium/collector tanks and below

gleaming moon
noble crystal
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Personally I'd like to see different tiers of the shop locked based off personal access tiers, so you need PA tier 8 to buy a tier 8 prem. It's very unlikely to be implemented but it isn't too invasive on WGs profits, isn't too restrictive on players, but is a slight improvement over the situation at the moment

midnight spindle
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EU server down

narrow patrol
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Will there be support for controllers on both pc and mobile?

mighty hound
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Man, Ribble is really making us wait on the "op tanks" answer

gleaming moon
broken badger
modern copper
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Will be here double-barrel tanks in wot (for free not for golds)xd

dawn birch
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it would be awsome to have double barrel tanks for money not gold

still valley
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are u gonna ignore the fact that annhilator has 3 barrels

chrome blade
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hello you know how to ammo rack a tank ?

lunar thorn
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You take apcr shell, put into barrel, aim at enemy tanks ammo rack, let stalin guide your shot and shoot

uncut fox
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Anybody know what the next legendary camo for tier 10 is going to be?

rain olive
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@chrome blade You just have to aim at where a tank's modules is for it, and the hope you roll the 27% (or other separate 7% chance max Via sniper crew skill) chance for damaging it and hope you actually blow it up

sacred sphinx
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does hitting an already damaged ammorack increase the chance of detonation?
or is it just a flat 27%

digital dust
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I think more ammorack damage on already yellow ammorack guarantees an ammorack but that's probably wrong

rapid steppe
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Damaged rack increases the chance to rack I think since the module health would be lower

rain olive
# rapid steppe Damaged rack increases the chance to rack I think since the module health would ...

Basically this, the Health of Modules is static, the only thing that increases risk of breaking completely is getting damage on them. (The sniper skill also counts as an increased chance, my point is that when it comes to a module being in a critical state it doesn't increase the percent chance that damage will be done)

Conversely, the equipment that increases module health will require more effective hits, and there is equipment that decreases the odds of effective damage

rapid steppe
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ah

chrome blade
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Oh thanks for you explication

shrewd vortex
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a

fleet pilot
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Blitz could get tank inspections section alongside the stats... to get to know more about a tanks modules, armor profiles, which guns can pen the tanks armor etc...

That would be 1000 times more helpful to understand this war game, and it will also be easier to discuss about tanks with the clan members.

Hoping wargames will take a look at this idea of tank inspections.

undone pelican
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you know what really annoys me?

The faded black bar on the top of your screen when tryna get a look of your tank in the preview

mighty hound
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"There's no simple solution."

mint hound
mighty hound
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Ooo, I like this quote too: "the amount of them."
The Annihilator is the most played tank in the past 90 days with over 13,000 players. The smasher has over 6,000 players in the past 90 days.

vapid wagon
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Don’t worry guys the Smasher and Annihilator arent affecting the balance system very much. Carry on as usual

mint hound
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Oh thats unfortunate. Sadly its also not simple to nerf a tank unless its tech tree

dry marsh
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just add japanese heavies with stupid strong frontal armor so they cannot pen

lethal field
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We have never nerfed such vehicles

Looks at Type 59

midnight spindle
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but a buff would give a premium vehicle

dry marsh
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Wargaming should always make premium tanks garbage at first then buff them in the future

tawny tusk
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Then not as many people will buy then once the realize the pattern

pulsar stump
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Hi

mighty hound
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I just don't understand how he can say "numbers aren't the problem" when you have TWENTY THOUSAND PLAYERS in those tanks. And considering that they are selling more crates that have a 3% drop chance for the smasher, they are ignoring the fact that these tanks are destroying games for everyone at tier 6-8. Sure, everything could look good on paper, but it's how it affects the playerbase that is the most important. Like missiles, statistically they were balanced, but in battle they were too abused to be balanced. The difference is that these tanks aren't even statistically balanced.

prime gazelle
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i wish we could make a backup save and claim 'we are nerfing Annihilator'. Just curious what the reaction would be in that case 🙂

midnight spindle
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Then there'd be a bunch of players upset that the tanks were nerfed. I'm sure you'd see a handful of people talking about getting a lawyer as well... There always seems to be at least one of those. @prime gazelle

proud void
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Is it suitable for you to make the premium and collector tanks play at a level higher than their level ?? Perhaps this will reduce the existing clutter to level 7 at least for 2 or 3 months?

midnight spindle
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That's a nerf...

jagged pivot
oblique urchin
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ppl saying nerf smasher but not know the Smasher get a buff in 7.3 :kekw:

oh hi lemo
collector is a premium (logic)

i just want bacc the MS-1 ❤️

mint hound
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Weren’t Collectors introduced with the post saying they can be nerfed? So if anyone still buys the Smasher they can’t then expect to never see a nerf on it

lethal field
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It was a slight camo buff iirc. Near meaningless with its playstyle

I guess? I don’t know and I don’t feel like going back through two years of updates to look and see, although for 5.5 tanks were nerfed while they were converted to collector

midnight spindle
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i have one push annihiltaor to tier 8 !! be gold and in good tier !!

vapid harness
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Hey would like to say the t1 for example Ms-1 will be there 🥺

midnight spindle
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annihiltor /smasher push to tier 8 ---- because max problem is insane DPM FOR RELOEAD 13 SEC !! KILL all 6 tier tanks in 2x reload and 0,5 delay sec between shells when fire ( for shot on long distance ) !! is be gold tank and no be nerf !!

unreal jetty
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bro Im so confused on what your saying

dry marsh
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In the short term many people will be angry due to smasher and annihilator nerf. However in the long term I believe the game will be much better. But I see why wargaming only cares about short term cash flow and not long term player satisfaction.

zenith bison
pulsar perch
tribal gyro
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When everyone want to nerf Annihilator and smaher but no one want to nerf T-49.
Sad tier 8 light tank. 😢😭

vapid wagon
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Isn’t the ratio of support for missiles much greater than the ratio of support for keeping the annihilator and smasher in their current state ?

pulsar perch
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Yea misses should be back

gleaming moon
scarlet torrent
lethal field
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T49 has mobility and alpha for upsides. Downsides? Penetration, accuracy, aim time, camo after shot, expensive. The list goes on.

The weaknesses for the Annihilator? Turret roof can be penned with apcr

The Smasher? Poor hull armor

The fact that these tanks have been sold for stupidly cheap and they are as powerful as they are is still baffling to me, although they are fairly uncommon to be matched with or against, so there is some “balancing” in play

zenith bison
# lethal field T49 has mobility and alpha for upsides. Downsides? Penetration, accuracy, aim ti...

"Hur dur the tank have a weakness and uncommon so it's balanced"

Annihilator: Turret factor, Good armor (thick turret and trollish hull), 152mm gun alpha (even if it's 3 80mm guns), Same reload of SU-152, Nice precision (good aim time + decent dispersion), -8 degrees of GD, decent speed (because of OP consumable)

Smasher: Turret factor, trollish turret, 152mm gun, Better precision than SU-152, slightly slower reload than SU-152 (2 seconds slower, but still a good reload for a 152mm gun), high HEAT and HE penetration + bonus (apparently, it's AP don't lose penetration over distance, but it's according to blitzhangar)

are those little weakness reasonable to all those facts? A turret that have a little weakspot penetrable by some prammo and a heavium hull?

@tawny tusk sent a fact.

tawny tusk
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Honestly WG’s short term money goal is gonna kill it. Look at what’s happening with EA and Activision. Like where/who is most of the money even going to.

frigid spruce
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wg's going to make 100k people quit just to save 13k

rare perch
#

I have a question that I'm not sure how to find the answer to but here goes...

If Blitz isn't currently using the WWISE sound engine... why is the logo on the startup screen for the windows version??? Is this simply a change that needs to be implemented on mobile but was already in the pc version of the game?

astral cargo
rotund badger
astral cargo
# rotund badger They don't fear kids but lawsuits and if u want them to nerf these tanks u shoul...

Welp I don’t see how wg can be sued by first changing tank status (like they wanted to do with kpfpz), give gold compensation to the players that don’t want it anymore and then nerfing it lmao. That is for annihilator, smasher has been a collector from the beginning on. Players knew that wg could nerf the smasher from the beginning, thus making it not sue-able if wg nerfs the smasher. Even just nerfing smasher would be a start. 🙂
Welp buffing tanks is changing stats too and we’ve seen enough premium tanks get buffed before the 2year period was over, so I don’t see a problem in nerfing some premium tanks before that mark

sharp turret
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Was wondering why in my store the 24.99 pack gold is only one I can’t buy and is the one I want to buy

zenith bison
# rotund badger They don't fear kids but lawsuits and if u want them to nerf these tanks u shoul...

WG reserve the all the rights (or a great part of the rights, like on special tanks from GuP, WH 40k, Fury, etc) of everything they have in-game. It's on the game's EULA if I remember well.

If WG wants, they can nerf, buff, change, delete or add everything they want because the game is exclusively WG's, so you can't simply sue them for changing a vehicle's stats, you accepted that WG owns the right of everything in-game and you also accept that they can do everything they want in-game.

Also, who would actually sue WG for nerfing a bunch of 3D codes? Lol

lethal field
valid hamlet
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54% chance to get the amx defender from the 12 crates ( correct me if I’m wrong )

rotund badger
zenith bison
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Once again, when the person plays the game, he/she is accepting the EULA, it's basically a contract.

The person is basically accepting a "ok, I won't sue WG for nerfing my premium because I know and accept that WG is the owner of that bunch of 3D codes."

But that just what I believe, I may be wrong

mint hound
astral cargo
icy basin
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Take your crates and shove them! You want to sell a new tank for a high price fine. Crates are nothing but gambling and I’m not wasting money on them.

astral cargo
fickle halo
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i see more ppl complaining about tier 7 matchups than anyone talking how WG literally shelved the missile mechanics without future leads for it, i just want it to have its own gamemode, stop sucking a tier 7 you dogwater

mint hound
icy basin
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Got this as a notification! Be honest WG it should say, “Give us all your money and MAYBE you will get this tank.”

gleaming moon
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🤖 🦾 I Need Your Money and Your Golds!
The AMX Defender arrived in crates to change your wealth. Meet the rng Defender!

It should be like this ngl

carmine hazel
fickle halo
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@mint hound bruh, im talking about separate branch of the game where missiles have their own tech tree with new vehicles and gamemodes, without having to meet classic tanks.
Blurry existence in temporary gamemodes wont make optimal use of the mechanic

@carmine hazel
i have more tanks in higher tiers to have fun with so i couldnt give any diddly schtick of attention to it, though those tanks are broken no cap

aeson mad lad

reef fable
unreal creek
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Let me redo the WG answer
❓ Is there gonna be a Smasher and/or annihiliator nerf in the future?
⚡ No

seriously ribble you should have just said no instead of trying to come up with some wack excuse
community wont care what you answer them
they'll praise you if you say yes and hate on you if you say no
wont matter how you phrase it

mighty hound
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Very intelligent answer aeson, thank you for the wise insight

prime gazelle
ionic nest
midnight spindle
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or all t10’s

mint hound
#

There’s already a channel where they’ve asked for ideas on camos for the remaining tier X tech tree tanks
#809711586839101440

unreal creek
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@ionic nest i said that ribble could have just been straight up with the playerbase and said no without bringing all that corporate jargon
we all know WG wont nerf prems so i dont even get why that question was asked
just sparks controversy and angers the playerbase further
i could care less about if WG is gonna nerf some random tank i dont really play

reef fable
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to take out out a smasher, anni, or gravedigger you need a DPM tank with spot on accuracy, AKA black prince, i think skirmish 5V5 mode was great for the British heavies, i would like to see it again maybe, fun times
a BP tooning with a churchill mk 7 to lock it into a lower tier is perfect for skirmishes

icy basin
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@reef fable What are you smoking!? All three are way to take out with most mediums, heavy, or TD. Yes they can be annoying but not like most people in them have a clue.

reef fable
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from watching other players mediums are going to be very hard to take out a anni ad such with

grim tundra
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don't ping me

worldly jasper
#

@grim tundra OK

rotund badger
#

Look at these news @grim tundra

jagged pivot
# unreal creek <@!757844252960227379> i said that ribble could have just been straight up with ...

Tbh it's just a bunch of kids crying about their favorite tier being broken. Seriously, play tier 8-10 for a more balanced experience
As I said before, giving an untrue excuse is worse than giving the fact. The fact is that neither tank will be nerfed because of wgs stance on prems. Wg has made it clear that they dont care about balancing non competitive scene tanks, which is shown by the lack of playtesting that tier 7 and below get.

mint hound
#

Yet they had the T26E3 in testing

midnight spindle
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problem with EMIL 1 is busrt dmg and frontal armor (low plate is small) and frontal armor (no turret) are pen only with gold (no as amx 50 100) -and 7 heavy are very hard do 2 shots on this tank(kv3,IS,AT7 ) ---main problem is rise on BURST tank vs single shots tanks as med pershing,indian,STA vs progetto 65 !

jagged pivot
rotund badger
midnight spindle
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i never be go high tier fight as 5 tier if annihilator be there and when come new czech tanks i go play 4 tier tanks because WG never do good test on new tanks as histoy show us (vk 100p,emil 1,,,,)

undone pelican
#

@midnight spindle if ur having trouble with them, look at you and how you play first

mellow wind
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Hey guys. When new physics comes. I didn't played 2 month.

mint hound
gleaming moon
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Cashcows didn't need to be tested as it will make profits beyond expectations 🙂

zenith bison
# carmine hazel Complaining about smasher and anihilator is a bit dumb (sorry) in my opinion bec...

"hur dur complain about an OP tank is dumb because (very doubtful statement warning ---->) there no more smashers or annihilators in MM"

@mint hound Imagine the conversation that the employees had about those 2 tanks

  • Hey, the 3D is done, but you don't think that a turreted 152mm alpha with good precision might look a bit op?
  • Don't mind, the players are already making jokes about it, they say that it's a weird T57.
  • But can we at least test the tank? I'm not totally sure about it.
  • It's ok, also give the op engine boost to it.
zenith bison
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@ionic nest @carmine hazel Let me explain something to you guys, Rarity of a tank ISN'T a balancing factor! KV-220 some years on the EU shops, it's pretty rare but still with op armor, the gun is quite bad about penetration but the precision isn't that bad and neither the DPM (which is pretty high when compared to other 75-76mm cannons)
Ke-Ni Otsu is also another example, it's extremely rare but have 1945 DPM in tier 3

Yeah, but you said that it's dumb to complain about Anni and Smasher only because they are rare

carmine hazel
#

I didn’t say it was a balance factor

mighty hound
#

@mint hound what are your thoughts on applying for the broken premium department?

mint hound
#

Hmm I like the idea, but I think this department has too many employees and my experience in being exceptional at properly balancing tanks will make me unsuitable for such a department

analog scarab
#

I did the survey....hoping there was a "suggestion" part at the end, but no luck

zenith bison
#

According to Blitzpost, the next will be another Battle pass; Operation Colosseum

Which Re-skinned collector tank will be the main prize? make your bets, I believe it'll be a TD because after all the battle pass spam, we still don't have a TD as main prize (Or maybe I simply forgot about the existence of another futile BP prize)

M6? meh

ah yeah, it's this guy right here on the image https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373091204038000650/809435312136388668/Screenshot_2021-02-11-20-35-31-02__01.png

undone pelican
#

it’s an M6 bruh

lethal field
#

Idk about you guys but that intro video we saw for it sounded like a lot of 76’s going off when people fired. Unless that’s just sounds mods or editing I dont have a lot of hope for this tank

urban geodeBOT
#

dynoSuccess SKOT#8773 has been warned.

midnight spindle
#

@stable shard English only

tawny tusk
#

Tbh I like the BP tank skin but I wish the coloring was brighter especially for the helmet and side skirts

minor fractal
#

What is The best tank?

knotty storm
#

Leichtraktor

digital dust
#

^

mighty hound
#

definitely not the smasher or annihilator because they are balanced :)

main lily
#

^^

midnight spindle
#

When will we have ray tracing for blitz?

obsidian bronze
#

year 2194

mighty hound
#

when an iphone can fit a 3090

digital dust
#

iPhone 3090

vapid wagon
#

given there were people who freaked out when bullet holes and track trails were added, probably not in our lifetimes @midnight spindle

languid bone
#

what?

slender laurel
#

your actual answer is literally just trying to formalize "When your phone can handle it"

restive bison
#

Instead of, “AMX 13 Defender is a stupid crate tank”, use “the newest addition to the pre established ‘defender’ series tanks, the AMX Defender, representing France and its fictional engineering, is a elegant light tank coming in the pixel slot machines, and gracefully dances upon the fragile wallets of the players of World of Tanks Blitz”

digital dust
#

Instead of "git gud" use "the matchmaking mechanic of World of Tanks Blitz only takes in a few specific factors and does not actively assign players of certain levels of skill to teams. As such, the biggest and most consistent influence on your performance in battles is yourself. If you are willing to spend time and effort on improving, the best practice is to stop making negative remarks to your random teammates and assess your games in order to find and correct mistakes. Furthermore, there are numerous video resources regarding how to become a better player in the mobile game known as "World of Tanks Blitz" on YouTube. Alternatively, you can also ask someone who you consider knowledgeable about the game about the game."

tropic moon
#

Get essayed!

noble remnant
#

Pinworthy as heck.
Although I probably won’t use it because that implies a level of caring for MM whiners.

rapid wave
#

Did u get A+ in that essay? Cause wg would like to hire you for next wg answers

digital dust
#

Ironically English is one of my worst subjects

dim spear
#

hi

waxen oriole
tropic moon
#

Rinoceronte? Not anytime soon. Italian heavies were just added on pc, and we already have hulldown autoreloading heavies in blitz

obtuse cedar
#

someone could explain it to me because I would like to buy myself a tank but with I will not be able to buy it

mint hound
valid frost
#

this medals wont fit higher tier games. most of players uses 2 repair kits and nobody caps in higher tiers and only starters going to cap so this medal for seal clubbers ?

obtuse cedar
#

@mint hound I do not understand

mint hound
#

In real life if you dont have enough money for something, can you buy it? No. It is the same in this game. How did you get to tier 7 and then forget how it works for tier 8

woeful spade
rapid mango
rotund badger
woeful spade
broken badger
#

What kind of mm is this?

uncut fox
#

Hmm tbh I would be happy to see that and be on your team, e100 is just a big hp pool for me to eat through and the Jag misses so much it’s basically useless

broken badger
sacred belfry
#

Bruh, IS-4 and Kranvagn are far more influential heavies than E-100s in that first screenshot

Unless you're playing on Dynasty's Pearl, I would rather have IS-4/Kranvagn than 2 E-100s any day of the week

vapid wagon
#

Why are u circling Jgpze100s? They have a big gun and thats it

rotund badger
# broken badger What kind of mm is this?

Random on
@broken badger why even in news discussion? Is this big news to u that everybody gets bad teams ? I could also post like 10 pics here. The difference is that im always on top and doing my best

broken badger
sacred belfry
#

@broken badger Actually, there isn't a large difference.

When matchmaker makes teams, it tries to put the same number of superheavies on each team, and in both screenshots, it's working as intended, since matchmaker counts IS-4 under the "superheavy" class

broken badger
#

Then cool that 60T tank is considered superheavy along with 130T tank...

sinful nacelle
#

E 50 M is 60 tons and it's a medium tank. Your point?

dry marsh
#

I wouldn’t call is4 super heavy based on weight but armor anD HP wise it’s a super heavy

restive lake
#

@glad sorrel I am from NA server gimme role pls

digital dust
low halo
#

my acc just got stolen

midnight spindle
#

🤙

rapid mango
mint hound
#

Depends how much they try. Even the good players can have 0 damage games

zenith bison
#

@sacred belfry wait, matchmaker does know what is a superheavy and what is a common heavy?

mint hound
#

I think theres some sort of value given to each tank and it tries to balance around that

midnight spindle
#

THIS PLAY WOT IS A NO EQUITABLE PLAY , The matchmaking is false by administrator . Why i am 9 to 10 match in low tiers position ?

undone pelican
#

@midnight spindle why complain about being low tier

sacred belfry
#

@zenith bison Yeah, iirc Matchmaker considers Maus, E-100, and IS-4 to be superheavies, and there’s also a separate category for derp TDs, just 183 and Jgpz IIRC.

I can’t seem to find the forum post anymore though

zenith bison
#

Wow

broken badger
sweet belfry
#

I do, complaining about losing and blaming something else but you.

midnight spindle
#

This game is basically you win some, you lose some just roll with it

forest dock
#

I think that wg should make the camera be able to go lower. this is so frustrating when you can't go lower

woeful spade
#

Are you looking for mineral deposits?

fossil monolith
#

Lol

tight gorge
#

Omg why are you blaming about Mm.
This is random Mm. You know that, so dont cry. It's not that difficult....

azure kelp
#

The decision discussion of MM has been done to death about a thousand times already
Boi I know how to speak English

frozen pulsar
#

im gonna be a bit picky, but why doesnt the new t8 czech tank have a magazine ? the tier 6 has a magazine, the tier 7 doesnt have one and the tier8 doesnt have one, then the t9 and t10 have magazines. is this like a bug on blitzhangar or smt ?

digital dust
#

The Czech line on PC has tier 7 and 8 tanks without autoloaders and blitz just uses those tanks

stuck haven
edgy edge
#

Isn't the Tier 7 the T-34-100? How would an autoloader even work in that space?

sacred sphinx
#

it's not
the t6,9,10 are autoloaders

midnight spindle
#

When does spring season officially begin

hot turtle
#

@midnight spindle when winter ends !!

daring gale
mint hound
#

Shhhhh

lavish ridge
midnight spindle
#

420 ON TIER 6 ?? new czech ? how balance tier 5 ?? dead after 2x reaload !!🤬

obtuse cedar
#

@lavish ridge OK

frozen pulsar
#

@midnight spindle apmost 14s reload dude

noble crystal
#

Who's going to tell him about the strv 74a2? 👀

swift merlin
#

When is the event featuring Loza's sherman going to take place?

hybrid kite
mint hound
midnight spindle
#

Or thé 183

mint hound
#

That’s tier X not 6

midnight spindle
#

Ik

sacred sphinx
#

i'm guessing he wasn't around during the kv2's heyday

midnight spindle
broken badger
#

Repair tournaments finnaly. Again same problem...

digital dust
#

thank you for providing visual markings on where i need to look, which is everywhere

swift plover
#

the screenshots would have been much better if they were in English.

fair moth
#

Does game sounds WG mentioned at #devs-answers include gun sounds?

uncut fox
#

Engine, guns, shell sounds, tracks...

frozen pulsar
#

@midnight spindle go to wot hangar and to tier 6 then to strv 74A2
Edit: also if youre gonna start discussion in dms then maybe dont block the person youre talking to

tribal frost
#

WOT

midnight spindle
#

@young atlas
Wargaming (World Of Tanks Blitz) is a Russian company

midnight spindle
midnight spindle
vocal pollen
#

Wargaming HQ is in Nicosia, Cyprus

slender laurel
#

i only played premiums yesterday and tech trees today
this is so rigged

surreal egret
#

I play premiums 24/7 and my win rate went from 40% to 31.5% i wonder why 🤔

terse current
#

undestand that feeling

spark galleon
#

Same

leaden berry
#

hey wg, can you bring back old map music, i especially miss the old lost temple music

midnight spindle
#

nerf ani

sour orbit
#

Hem no, the problem is that WG consider the Smasher like a Premium tank

urban geodeBOT
#

dynoSuccess derpycroc[SMH]#7286 has been warned.

midnight spindle
#

😆 and @lyric blade i found that a few days ago and I cried, it’s my childhood in a nutshell.... I agree

lyric blade
#

ye I miss the old soundtrack. I do wish maybe one day WG would give each map its separate music though...imo it'll give each map more personality

vocal inlet
#

I wish Wg Would add the world of tanks that’s on ps4 and Xbox 1 on IOS

zinc escarp
#

perhaps with the new audio engine coming in ,WG could add a setting to switch between old and new music kinda like the toggle for old and new auto aim but I doubt it

magic ruin
#

WG should do something about the toxicity in some battles, I just saw some kid get called words like bot or noob

pastel shard
#

Bot or noob isn't bad

main lily
#

That's like the tip of the iceberg when it comes to those types of words

midnight spindle
#

I'm not defending someone throwing out insults but if "bot" or "nub" is your breaking point the internet is going to be a rough place.

stark barn
#

ya thats nothing sommeone call me dookie brain once i cried

midnight spindle
woeful spade
fast loom
buoyant summit
#

Does anyone knows if iOS has released the update?

thorn stirrup
#

Pretty sure it'll be 4+ hours before update is done on 1 cluster of servers; it will be available in 8 hours or less

blissful loom
#

i got banned cause i was better than people and they got toxic and reported me it happened when i got a 7 kill match

mint hound
#

appeal to customer support. If youre innocent they unban

sour orbit
#

I just realized rn that Thunder will be useless after kv1s huge buff, it will have only 15mm of pen more with a bad dpm

astral cargo
mint hound
#

Lol didnt WG say the KV1S was overperforming and so they intended this to be a nerf overall?

midnight spindle
#

They should add smažák instead of the goulash, smažák is like fried cheese but coated like a řízek with fries and tartar sauce, it’s the most Czech meal you can get, and instead of the original fried cheese they should add beer

unkempt kelp
#

i like how WG always release updates in major tournaments
where half the players r updated and half the players r not becuz the the update has not yet been released in sum devices

midnight spindle
#

I recommend to developers to make another camouflage, since the new camo is futuristic and first of its kind, many people prefer or expected historical camouflage. So, Kranvagn has 2 camouflages, I recommend making 2nd camouflage for Czechoslovakian T10 which will be either historical or nationalistic (like Swedish flag/symbols on kranvagn), and if there will be 2nd camouflage for the TVP T50/51. It should represent two countries, Slovakia and Czechia. It would be a nice new concept of camouflage because we are two nations.

ivory root
#

is it just me or the other traning room vanished even tho its open :/

subtle blaze
#

Hi Devs, I will soon have 400+ tanks in my garage. I currently am able to pin 📌 tanks in one category. This is very limited. I currently have tanks pinned that I want to master (153 out of 400). But it would be great if I could pin tourney tanks, or tanks I want to work on (getting equipment, etc).

zenith bison
sour orbit
#

No, the thunder had a bit more dpm than kv1s, and also slightly better frontal armor

mint hound
#

reload differs by 0.02 for Thunder. Pretty much same dpm. But it gets 10 degrees of gun dep, armor and loses a p/w for it

shut rain
stray igloo
#

Taking too long to get into battle. All tier6 and medium. Just wait for later today.

subtle blaze
#

I LOVE the events. I heard that Meadsy and others were saying that there are too many. I look forward to the events. I think the tanks, gold, camos, etc make each event well worth the small fee to join.

brittle hollow
#

when is loza's sherman event

worldly otter
#

when is mad game

zenith bison
#
  • 3 seconds has passed *

That guy: Ight, can't get in a battle

Ah nevermind

swift lagoon
#

When will uprising come back ??

dreamy bronze
#

I have questions : what are the next game mod we will can play ? Madgame and realistic ? Ping me pls

midnight spindle
#

Yea when will uprising come back

mint hound
#

after they fix some bugs

undone pelican
#

@hasty hinge ban the guy above

he’s gone now

urban geodeBOT
#

dynoSuccess DanielXd#3240 was banned

hasty hinge
#

@undone pelican thanks

gilded marlin
#

WG, while trying to help a new player, i found that training rooms aren't available to players with lower tier tanks. This seems insane, it's a developemental tool that should be available ESPECIALLY to new players. Please reconsider this for a future update.

urban geodeBOT
#

dynoSuccess Trutek18#4492 has been warned.

leaden berry
#

no, https://youtu.be/-7tmAUSS7Zw 1:10 is the time stamp for the one i was taling about

World of tanks Blitz's soundtracks changed in update 4.10.

0:04 Canyon, Black Goldville, Mirage, Falls creek
0:42 Vineyards and Fort Despair
1:10 Lost Temple and Yamato Harbor
1:52 Castilla
2:14 Malinovka and Canal
2:33 Oasis Palms and Desert Sands
2:55 Rockfield and Dead Rails
3:27 Himmelsdorf, Mines, Port Bay and Middleburg
3:52 Def...

▶ Play video
midnight spindle
#

nostalgia

midnight spindle
#

@everyone

sacred sphinx
#

lmao

cosmic lagoon
#

I read that users can complete tutorials for rewards and trade mastery for other rewards. when will this happen

cosmic lagoon
#

@sudden pebble can you stop going to each chat and compaining.

also where can i go to receive information on my question

urban geodeBOT
#

dynoSuccess B1SCUIT#9279 has been warned.

midnight spindle
midnight spindle
#

In Russian Server WE have Open Test but on Europe and na and Asia Not 😐

mint hound
#

Because it wasnt very worth their time to do it for EU

zenith bison
#

Pffff, WG doesn't believe on the German technical superiority to test the tanks

Germans are clearly the best to lnow if the engine is good; how much time it tales to break thhe engine? 4 minutes? Good enough

crude folio
#

Yup getting 7-0 in ratings shouldnt be happening

quartz frigate
#

when the tanks with tires comes

mint hound
#

Not anytime soon. They don’t fit in blitz

lyric thorn
#

200XP is so much 🙂

midnight spindle
#

oh wow wg srsly so you just delete my message and do like it never happend so you wanna tell that you like just cover your problems.

lyric thorn
#

No, your message was irrelevant and pointless.

midnight spindle
mint hound
#

The next week never came

woeful spade
#

I think they didn't like how the community responded to some of the answers. Though I have to admit that it would surprise me if that is the reason why there is no extra QnA. After all, I admit those answers were ruder than other comments, however the amount of them doesn't affect chatting so much. And I don't think taking them to heart is crucial and necessary in this case. Actually there's no simple solution in this case and they could pick the lesser of two evils.

mint hound
#

😂

midnight spindle
#

I think they're busy dealing with all the usual bugs and hassles that come with releasing a new update.

split epoch
#

cubes

wintry nebula
#

Hmmm... do we have any confirmation as to when the Loza event will start?

tepid panther
native olive
#

Hey, I dont know which channel to post this in, so Im going to ask here: are you planning on adding a tankopedia like into the game? Not just the one thats on WG wiki, but one that will allow you to look inside of the tank, where all of the modules are? That would be really helpful. If you dont have the capabilities of doing that, could you at least help Wotinspector (http://wotinspector.com/en/) to improve their stuff because they say that they are two people who do not get information from you. It would be nice if they could see some support coming their way. Thank you.

fickle halo
#

@native olive theres armor inspector

ionic nest
#

@fickle halo That IS WoT Inspector if I'm not wrong
A part of it

midnight spindle
#

more decals like the national emblems,the tug wire in the side, and some spare tracks in the front lower glaces of the Tiger 131, withput it its just a tiger with numbers pls make add some more details like the fury, its not worth if it not like the real one

sharp pivot
subtle blaze
exotic bane
#

national crew voices for euro tanks pls!!!!

midnight spindle
#

Lol

#

the same bug happened to me i think you just restart game or wait some time

uncut fox
urban geodeBOT
#

dynoSuccess sulimanb88#2582 was muted

midnight spindle
#

@prime gazelle
(sorry for the ping)
When you open the channel for questions from players because you said before the update that you would open it after extracting the update

prime gazelle
#

@midnight spindle where are you?

midnight spindle
prime gazelle
#

no idea what you mean, mate
ask youor question 🙂

split epoch
#

e

mighty hound
#

Good question

midnight spindle
#

@prime gazelle

Can you help me to get back some of my premium tanks that I sold? I am in need of credits, so I want to get back the premium tanks that I had once.

One of my friends told that they asked WG to restore his premium tank, and it did happen.

Any idea how can I contact WG on this issue?

prime gazelle
midnight spindle
#

Ok thanx Ribble

#

@prime gazelle I couldn’t figure out how to use the ask wg chat because when I looked at it when y’all said it was open it said couldn’t type here so I’m wondering if you will still answer questions and I was wondering if wg has any plans of buffing both British tds with better camo and mobility and maybe even the same buff for the German tds (sorry for ping your probably busy working on the new patch)

lyric thorn
proud void
zenith bison
#

I'd like to ask for Ribble what is the excuse for not nerf Smasher?
"We have never nerfed such vehicles (talking about premiums) and definitely don't want to do that...", but Smasher isn't a premium, it's name is clearly blue so it's a collector, not a premium

Also, what do you mean by "The Smasher and the Annihilator are premium tanks..."?
Does WG consider collectors as premiums? It actually explains why any collector tank was officially nerfed since 5.5

but welp, here is not Ask-wg anyways

sour ferry
#

when the "ask wg" channel opening?

somber goblet
#

Smasher is balance but Annihilator is not. Too many people have the Annihilator. This tank should be nerfed. Everything is OP on the annihilator.

mint hound
#

Smasher isn’t balanced either

errant depot
#

@prime gazelle a question. Do we post questions to WG in this channel or the ask_wg channel when it is opened? Thanks!

zenith bison
woven sinew
#

Mhm

midnight spindle
sharp turret
#

Is there any way you can add a function to gift a limited amount of free xp credits and gold in clan to clan members say 10 mill credits 20k free XP and 1 k gold think it a great idea would defo help kind regards buster

analog haven
#

Is there any dev?
I wanna ask how to fix missing character when I'm playing WoT Blitz.
When my friend started chatting in Vietnamese I couldn't read.
I'm using English as in-game language.

late arrow
#

Guys what is date of this event build loza?

worldly sentinel
#

Devs please help.
I bought a pack with premium time and boosters to get my hands on the bonus Pz B2 740(f) but even after spending real money I can't claim the tank.

lyric thorn
lyric thorn
lyric thorn
celest marten
#

hi

worldly sentinel
lyric thorn
analog haven
tepid gate
#

i dont receive any bundle for ticket

celest crow
#

Grille is going to get spall liner in the next update...

fervent bay
#

Why? That’s the worst choice after heavy buffs

sacred sphinx
#

and reticle

midnight spindle
#

ABOUT TIME

forest dock
#

Can WG stop fixing things that aren't broken? Not even limited to this game in particular. Take a look at Wot console...

zenith bison
#

Ah yes, give reticle calibration for the most precise tank in the game

Instead of giving an actual concealment for Grille, nah, add ultra big DPM, -20% HE damage, -40% aim time -40% dispersion

undone pelican
#

well, one of the 3 most precise, to be accurate (pun intended)

midnight spindle
#

Why did they nerf the glitches they wasn't breaking the game

rotund badger
lyric thorn
#

@worldly sentinel What did you buy again?

hollow flower
#

how much gold is the type 62 dragon camo?

zenith bison
#

I have Type 62 but I absolutely don't remember the legendary camo price

valid frost
inland venture
#

Oh come on, not the spall liner

worldly sentinel
lyric thorn
#

@worldly sentinel What happens when you click the claim button

sullen lodge
#

What's up guys

lyric thorn
#

You must have claimed it already, it says zero available

#

@worldly sentinel

rose wagon
#

Cuz that’s premium avatar

thorny mirage
#

I got questions:
Will the game(World of tank blitz) having ACCOUNT TRANSLATION for the region server?
Because some of my friends stay in ASIA for five years and playing in asia server for five years,then he was back to EU in this year,but he cannot play the ACCOUNT that exists in ASIA SERVER in EU.

WILL ACCOUNT TRANSLATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS KINDS OF PLAYERS?

mint hound
#

Accounts cant be transferred between servers right now. Its only possible at some specific time. They allowed people to do it some years ago, but its unlikely theyll do it again

thorny mirage
rose wagon
#

Yup

balmy raptor
#

Bring back misiles on the t92 and Sheridan pleeease or at least some more turret armor to compensate

thorny mirage
midnight spindle
#

Wow what a bum you must not have been good with missles and that’s why you hate them

#

I miss the M3 Lee man, I loved that think.

blazing topaz
#

@prime gazelle vvhats the best clan in NA?

digital dust
#

pyx

balmy raptor
#

A real pitte for sure

inland venture
#

what are the requirements for valiant effort?

lethal field
#

Fight like hell

digital dust
#

get one of the battle hero medals (top gun, high caliber, stuff like that) on a loss

worldly sentinel
velvet dawn
#

I think i have the same issue as jager but i got the 500 gold and 7 days but couldnt get the 2000 gold thing

analog haven
mint hound
midnight spindle
#

yo developers, i have a suggestion :

make a feature so that players can sell or buy tanks between players. The price is customized but shouldnt go too far from the "official" price, and to make sure you guys dont lose so much profit, there could be gold or credit fee per transactions between player.

lyric thorn
#

@worldly sentinel I think you should create a ticket and explain the situation to the customer support)

#

@analog haven See the link above

tropic moon
midnight spindle
#

how did it get exploited? im new to this game, idk abt past changes and updates

lyric thorn
#

@midnight spindle People started gifting tanks to themselves

midnight spindle
lyric thorn
#

@midnight spindle Yes or just to your main. That happened with the IS6F, where people just gifted themselves the tank

#

Overall it was a great new idea but people misused it and now it's not coming back anytime soon

midnight spindle
undone pelican
worldly sentinel
worldly sentinel
midnight spindle
#

Do I need to have as much credits and gold to buy a tank if I want to restore it? Like to restore the leKpz M 41 90 mm Germany do I need to have around 2.4 million credits/that much gold?

spring geode
celest marten
#

hi

cyan tundra
#

@midnight spindle You need to have a certain amount of credits or gold to restore a tank, and a vacant garage slot.
If it’s a premium tank, you restore it with credits.
Collectors are restored with gold.
The amount of currency needed to restore a tank reflects how much you sold it for in the first place,.
You can view restoration prices via this table https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/23202/

lyric thorn
midnight spindle
limber knoll
#

When does we have a new fun mode? cause its annoying to have noobs in this game

cyan tundra
#

@midnight spindle No worries. It’s a premium.
An easy way to tell is by their name colouring.
Gold = Premium
Blue = Collector
As seen in these two images, the leKpz is a premium, the Super conqueror is a collector.
If you have any other questions, don’t hesitate to come ask

stable fulcrum
#

youwe manage to destroy game with anihilator and smasher, really stupid move from wargaming...

surreal egret
#

They got +200% rich with those two

midnight spindle
#

give me 1 smasher pls

slender laurel
midnight spindle
#

When is the event with the lozas Sherman

jagged halo
#

🍉

split epoch
#

melon

midnight spindle
cyan tundra
#

You need the minimum it says in the restoration table. If you don’t have enough credits, you cannot restore it. Though, I’d advise getting a little extra ontop of the restoration cost so you can afford putting on consumables, equipment etc @midnight spindle

ashen river
#

hii

midnight spindle
valid frost
#

any idea when new modes like uprising available ? (nvm i uninstalled game)

lean sable
#

I know that its gonna be mad games, but I don't know when.

cosmic vault
#

how are teams formed? and how do i play thousands of rounds but never land on a red team ?

lethal field
#

Crazy, I get to be on red team all the time, must be bad matchmaking lol

midnight spindle
#

Speaking of modes, they should bring back burning games, that mode was fun

lean sable
#

Yeah, it was in October, but will missile mode be back?

formal stratus
#

Where can I report something about the interface?

blazing topaz
cyan tundra
#

Probably not.
You can view if the ticket sent by going to the ‘my tickets’ section

velvet dawn
#

Aight thanks bro it's there

civic dawn
#

A question...now that there's a Czech tank line, is the ČKD LT vz .38 going to be moved to it? It's on the Chinese tech tree, as the Tier II vehicle...but it is NOT Chinese. The German Panzer 38 nA is a later version of the LT vz. 38...

civic dawn
#

Well those vehicles were used by different allied countries under the Lend-Lease program during the war, so that's understandable. But the LT vz. 38 isn't one of those. It was Czech, then German...though Sweden got permission to licence build them before Czechoslovakia was annexed.

celest crow
#

Yay: “Crusader . The maximum speed changes from 42 to 50 km / h. Top gun is converted to an autoloader, ( 2 shots, with a shell reload of 1 sec) the total reload of the drum is 7.5 sec, the aiming time changes from 2.3 to 1.9 sec, the dispersion coefficient after a shot changes from 3.5 to 2.5.”

regal obsidian
#

Why is this channel dead,?????? Why does it has 15mins cooldown??? Nvm, it's news discussion, I thought it's main chat

dim spear
#

lol

daring fulcrum
#

Hello wher does the new pass start nowhere see a start date. Thanks

lean sable
#

I think it's like in 9 minutes, at least for me.

tropic moon
#

to people asking about collectors and particularly smasher, and their status on being nerfable in #814864341551677500 . i doubt wg will change their stance in 2 weeks

barren compass
#

Which is kinda sad. And a bit hard to believe because Wargaming has nerfed such tanks already (T-22 iirc).

midnight spindle
#

@echo crater
why I was not reacted: 👍 ?

lilac olive
#

Update 7.8, the Object 260 receives a nerf in armor and stats

cyan tundra
#

Be patient

prime gazelle
latent heath
#

only 3 of each camos in new pass?

coarse creek
#

Well does mods and ones working with wg accepts wg decisions on all matters?

fickle halo
#

oh poo i didnt realize my question was faulty 🐿️

midnight spindle
#

@prime gazelle
there is no Premium Pass in the store

slender laurel
#

Is there any way to disable the red "1" on the mission tab... Im not buying the battle pass
Its really annoying

I didnt buy the battle pass and its the stupid premium pass mission

uncut fox
#

Click on it, then it should go away

mint hound
#

it doesnt

formal stratus
#

Any update on the problem with Android 11 yet?

worldly current
slender laurel
mint hound
#

Got reminded about asking it because I saw the messages here

remote flare
broken badger
#

Just gonna say Type 59 is a premium and they nerfed it before. ( Imo it should be buffed a bit btw)

errant depot
#

@prime gazelle I always seem to miss when the ask_wg channel is open, could you tell me when it will open again in US Central time?

sacred belfry
#

@barren compass T-22 was not nerfed

People only think it was nerfed because one update, they made the hitbox smaller by like a millimeter to better line up with the visual model

And at the time people thought it was a buff

Yet somehow, the myth of the T-22 nerf continues to spread

Also @broken badger Type 59 has not been nerfed either, unless you count +1/-1mm removing its +1/-2MM

barren compass
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Ah, then I got that wrong, thanks for telling.

valid frost
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guys why Valentine IX is light tank with 24kmh top speed ?😂

rotund badger
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Yes

sinful nacelle
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In reference to WG nerfing premium tanks, all you need to reference is Update 5.5.
And I can agree on that the response to the annihilator/Smasher question was not a well thought out answer, to say the least.

rain olive
valid frost
rain olive
undone pelican
formal stratus
#

Any updates on the problem with Android 11?

cosmic lagoon
#

When will users be able to play tutotials to receive rewards and trade mastery for other rewards?

digital dust
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because tank classification is based on weight, not speed, and the valentine weighs 18 tons

valid frost
digital dust
#

different countries have different classifications. the Swedish strv 103 is counted as a main batle tank
Swedish classifications are weird

quick arrow
zinc escarp
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classifications aren't always accurate (The French 'heavies' have no armor, the American turreted TDS are more like mediums with slightly bigger guns, etc) depends a lot on the country and time period the tank was designed in and how the designers viewed the tank

lethal field
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The British classified their tanks names based on the gun caliber, so something like the 4005 would be “Heavy Gun Tank FV4005” or something along those lines despite it having less than 0 armor

fervent bay
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But the FV4005 isn’t a 4005 calibre
And FV means fighting vehicle

rain olive
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Heavy tanks vary by nation and generally most nations go off of the gun calibre to determine it the exception being American tanks as Pershing was heavy tank for example

coarse creek
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Did they balance mm a bit? Cuz iam not getting much loosing streaks

pallid whale
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No ur just getting better teammates

ionic nest
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^^

coarse creek
median sand
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can you please make a mode where you get double credits?

forest dock
woeful spade
#

Is the #askwg channel supposed to be gone? I didn’t get to upvote questions I like the second time it opened yesterday

halcyon osprey
#

Where is the ask Wg channel??? It has been eliminated?

valid merlin
#

they probably set it to private to wipe it again for the next qna

midnight spindle
coarse creek
#

Burnt

surreal egret
#

there is a gamemode that gives you lots of credits just for doing friendly fire

pallid whale
#

Mad games

woeful spade
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Burning games as well. In Mad games it’s just a few tanks

lean sable
#

You can get like triple credits in Uprising also.

silk nebula
#

will the tanks in #coming-soon be tech tree tanks or premium tanks?

nova frigate
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Premium and collector

rotund sorrel
#

I know it might not be the right place.
But can someone tell me if WG support sure is down and for how long

midnight spindle
#

how can i get (EU-server) role?

cyan tundra
#

@midnight spindle Go to #surveys and scroll to the top. React to the appropriate icon

midnight spindle
#

@cyan tundra thx

mighty hound
#

Rip wg answers

sacred sphinx
#

can't even go there to vote

midnight spindle
#

probably typing out the answers or looking at them

soft notch
#

Where did questions tab go?

inland venture
#

the red 1 on the missions if you dont have premium pass defo needs to go

mint hound
#

Can’t wait to see if they’ll just say they’re working on some solution or don’t want to fix it, or just try to make an excuse like they did for the Annihilator

lean sable
#

Do we know anything about Mad Games than the fact that is in March? Do we know if it's now or in the end of the month?

ancient raft
#

I devs read this - why won't wargamming nerf or remove the annihilator from the game its clearly broken, but they have stated that there isn't enough of them to "break the match maker" so lets see Im getting some of this information from blitzstars if you are wondering first of all its the second most played tank in the game with over 3 million battles (with 13,000 players) this means that each player is playing 250 battles in the annihilator (and this is only the stats that are from players with 50 battles in the annihilator in a 90 day period also it has the highest win-rate of any tier 7 heavy tank sitting at 61% which is a lot considering that 13,000 people play the tank . Also its top 3 when it come to dpm only behind the black prince and the fv201 which are dpm gods it also has one of the lowest aimtimes of any tier 7 heavy tank only comming behind the fv201 and predator ultramarine It has one the best dispersion of any tier 7 heavy tank only behind the fv201 and black prince it has the highest top speed of any tier 7 heavy tank this is without the boost btw it has the highest win rate of any tier 7 heavy tank, it has the highest average damage of any tier 7 heavy tank it has the highest damage ratio of any tier 7 heavy tank it has the highest average kills of any tier 7 heavy tank it also has the highest kills per death ratio of any tank the survival rate is almost 50% thats comparing to just tier 7 heavys tnak what about all tier 7 tanks? well it has the highest winrate of any tier 7 the highest average damage literaly all of its performance stats are better than any tank at tier 7 it only gets beat when it comes to spotting the only tank in the game with a higher damage ratio is the helsing the only tank that did something better than spotting against the annihilator and I will do one better it has better stats then every tier 8 heavy tank only having less average damage then the e75ts the amx m4 45 the emill 1951 the shark and the is 6 fearless

errant depot
#

I wonder now that the last "Coming Soon" video on the WoTB YT channel is out of date (since everything shown in it has now been released) when will the next one come? They used to be every month to 2 months, then there was a huge break until Jan. Since it is now March, maybe put a new one together?

cosmic lagoon
#

In the update 7.6 it said that we would have tutorials to complete and be able to get rewards for doing the tutorials and also be able to trade mastery for other rewards. When will that happen?

mint hound
#

The tutorials wont apply to you if youre not a new player. No one knows when either event takes place

inland venture
#

when does 7.8 hit

urban geodeBOT
#

dynoSuccess Trutek18#4492 has been warned.

#

dynoSuccess chevychase77[IMPRL]#8740 has been warned.

little pulsar
woeful spade
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No, it won't, because they will exclude the Smasher and the Annihilator

frozen ravine
#

For next Halloween can we have a kv2 with 2 sets of double turrets (ie 4 guns in total) that shoots kinda like an annihilator except with more time between shells and it has huge dispersion but is he only and destroys tanks through splash damage

lethal field
#

no

frozen ravine
#

It basically deals damage over an area rather than on one specific point

rare vine
#

Does anyone here speak Spanish?

sacred pecan
#

I mean I would speak Spanish to you but it’s against the rules apparently

inland venture
#

When do we get the answers for last ask wg?

mild cape
#

WHY is match Making so totale broken. Too many low Lvl players each battle. All ekstern Europa on eu server means that nobody Can talk english. Very bad for THE game.

rotund badger
#

All the russian who have there own server but won't play on it should really go back. It hurts communicating and there not even good players (mostly)

placid isle
narrow stream
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the rules say that u can t speak spanish srry bo

fair moth
#

Where's #ask_wg channel?

nova frigate
prime gazelle
#

i'll the questions on Friday. Don't forget to vote.

worn schooner
#

this game suck

broken badger
#

yee

forest dock
#

i need a gamemode i'm going into withdrawal

uncut fox
#

I think Realism is coming again 😭😭😭

split epoch
#

mad games

zenith bison
# worn schooner this game suck

Yes, but actually no. It depends of your excuse.

It sucks as like every other mobile online game (lootboxes, "aggressive" choices against f2p, unnerfable premiums, etc)? Then it's up to your opinion
It sucks because of the MM, "lack of reality", fantasy tanks, etc? Then you were playing the wrong tank game all this time

somber goblet
#

Fantasy tank (smasher, annihilator) destroy the game.

lapis basin
#

alguein ke hable esapañol

boreal citrus
#

Gonna have a event about Sheridan Missile?

cyan tundra
#

You can only speak English here, its the rules
Solo podes hablar inglès aqui, son las reglas @lapis basin

zenith bison
uncut fox
#

Is the wildlife bundle actually giving money to charity?

midnight spindle
# ancient raft I devs read this - why won't wargamming nerf or remove the annihilator from the ...

Annihilator is a premium tank. WG can't move this tank stat. The only way to balnce it is to buff all T7 that aren't competitive versus this tank. But by doing that they can't buff others premiums tanks at T7 and they must buff T6 tanks (and same here they can't buff T6 premiums) and buff T8 tanks (same wich premium). So because they must buff all tiers tanks (without buffing premiums) to balance annihilator, they prefer to let this broken tank in game. But i am agree that the "i doesn't affect MM !" answer is not real, annihilator spam is a reallity and you can't change tank status.

ancient raft
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wdym they changed half the tanks in the game into collectors well oh well If they want to ruin the game for new players let them do that let them dig a whole under their foundation so it sinks

plain cosmos
#

does anyone wanna play

formal stratus
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Still no update on the issue found with Android 11 I see. It's really ruining my activity on it.

visual copper
#

is it just me or is any one using the french tanks

lethal field
#

I use the Foch 155 on occasion, as for my 50B it’s much less but no you’re not the only one

sacred sphinx
#

you still see foch155's, 50b's role was partially taken by tvp. batchat's been fading to irrelevance since sheri was released.

visual copper
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at least i don't use the r35 now

midnight spindle
#

Hello

restive bison
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50 B still has the HP and damage per shot advantage, but they do somewhat overlap

vocal osprey
#

Guys pls take a look at balance discussion pls fix team balancing at mobile

mint hound
#

Its balanced. Just pay more attention to the times you get the good teams, instead of only remembering when you are given the bad team

rotund badger
#

Everybody complains about noobs in high tiers and WG slaps us in the face again with this offer.

midnight spindle
#

Am having problems getting into the game on EU, like I can open the game, my wifi is fine and am logged in but it still does not let me into my garage....

astral cargo
midnight sandal
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.

narrow hedge
#

Can EU server be fixed?

narrow hedge
midnight spindle
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WG Wake up, fix the EU server. I literally canNOT log in the damn game, and every thing is literally good and working, it has to be a server problem not my wifi or login problem....

sonic depot
#

EU server seems to be down, several players in our clan are affected - looks like local problems with DNS resolving

narrow hedge
#

EU server works for me rn, thanks for fixing it 👌👌👌

sonic depot
#

my first attempt was about 10 o'clock...
update: everything seemed to be back to normal, was able to log in just now

static lava
limber knoll
#

@astral cargo yeah and with that the game is destroying himself

waxen garnet
#

When will mad game be accessible for us?

lilac olive
#

When WG tells us...

limber knoll
#

When they want so its never when player want

visual copper
#

that's the bad part about that

vapid wagon
#

hey buddy u dont have to post this in every channel

brittle heath
#

big lag

sage pollen
#

servers just crashed!

tough maple
#

Can confirm

sand thunder
#

Same

warm garden
#

Same here

vestal forge
#

It doesn't work for me either

crimson plank
#

WOTB EU server down?

lilac olive
#

Working again

midnight spindle
#

u try and be successful

urban geodeBOT
#

dynoSuccess x-es#0630 has been warned.

midnight spindle
#

More one crash?

sand thunder
#

Yes

halcyon osprey
#

Lol, crash twice

heavy ore
#

You have not bought enough crates and WG has nothing to pay for the servers.

eternal cairn
#

I hate crates I was so dissapointed, I thought I was gonna get the amx defender and the other defenders.

eternal cairn
#

and I am pretty sure it's gonna take a long time before I can actually get the tank

icy lagoon
#

R

visual copper
#

boi it works for me

zenith bison
# eternal cairn I hate crates I was so dissapointed, I thought I was gonna get the amx defender ...

Bet systems in a nutshell

And then, comes the wallet warrior saying "hay, letting bets in a 14+ yo game isn't bad at all, it's just a surprise mechanic"

WG is earning money by fooling minors. The problem isn't on the Loot box by itself, the problem is their existence in a game that is recommended to 18- people.

That's immoral business, also something that must stop, or simply by companies stopping the abuse of bets in 18- games, or either by law acting directly as like UK and Switzerland did

eternal cairn
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well, that's business, and that's true. either way if it is legal companies (wargaming) should stop anyways, I loved the t22 med crate on christmas at least you did not lose something, either you got 9,000 gold or the tank 50% chance. They just take an op tank like the kanonenjagdpanzer 105, which (classic wargaming) will put in crates no doubt. Players are now just frustrated, every new tank that comes in the shop is in crates, also another fact, people are very very frustrated that the annilator (most played tank in all blitz) broke the matchmaking, and wargaming is doing nothing.

zenith bison
eternal cairn
woeful spade
#

That was sarcasm

zenith bison
#

@eternal cairn i guess you didn't get the joke

zinc escarp
#

Hey, fortnite just got a class action lawsuit for selling loot boxes to minors: https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/gaming-news/epic-games-gives-away-v-bucks-as-part-of-class-action-settlement-2887256?amp. I’m not too clear on the details but maybe someone should start investigating wot crates 🤨

Epic Games are giving away free V-Bucks to players who purchased a loot box in Fortnite: Save the World.

midnight spindle
zenith bison
#

@midnight spindle how can you say so proudly that you do support indireclty the loot boxes?

Sorry if I look aggressive, but I get quite mad when someone says "I buy loot boxes all the time", mostly when it's a game for underage people

midnight spindle
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@zenith bison I usually use splinters to buy lootboxes for new avatars, get rid of the old to get the new which can be done for free with time. I do support lootboxes but only a certain kind. The defender lootboxes and other major boxes that only have a 3% drop rate are NOT okay to me and I do not purchase them. I understand that they can be addictive to buy for some who dont understand odds or dont care. 20,000 credits is about 100 us dollars for some of those mega boxes they have sometimes. Agression is okay as long as it has a purpose 🤚👍

Overall when I say I buy them a lot it's with earnings in game not gold. Also tournaments can give you tokens to get things like avatars and camo.

I hope this changes your view of what I said, I'm not proud of little kids buying lootboxes, but I am proud of earning one and getting a rare drop

zenith bison
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I'm a stubborn guy and I've my my choice; I hate all the loot boxes, even if there's a few of them that are acceptable. One example of acceptable are those premium tank boxes by tier (buy a tier 5 loot box = a tier 5 tank. If you get a tank that you already had, you get a tier 6 loot box.) or the ones that you're not going to lose money directly or indirectly because you aren't spending Gold or real money, for example. These 2 types of loot boxes are acceptable, even if I still hate them.

Economic agression against the costumer isn't always okay even if it has a purpose, but it's forgivable if the costumer won't actually lose somethinf.

ivory tapir
#

question for devs: so I've heard Grille is apparently getting reticle calibration as well as spall liner in 7.8. If this is true, why is this change being implemented?

ivory vector
#

me

tardy otter
#

Can u add the wheeled tanks from WOT pc 2 WOT blitz

surreal egret
#

no

vernal reef
#

Can't you make a cursed germany. Like tiger1destroyer,tigerMaus,KB 2 or anything else and it a premium tank

tardy isle
spice merlin
# zenith bison <@456226577798135808> how can you say so proudly that you do support indireclty ...

You may not approve of crates, but you have to remember that WG is a company and they need to make money. Although it is a form of gambling, WG never makes anyone buy those crates, and if children are doing it, that it's their choice. The argument of them being under 18 I don't feel is valid here. I'm 17 and I fully recognise that if I buy crates I know what I'm doing. Many other games like 8 Ball Pool, with ratings of like 3+, promote gambling too with daily free spins. The reason that people get so mad with crates is because normally they don't get what they think they're going to get. I assure you if you get every reward from every crate you wanted, you would not care. Crates will generally bring in a greater revenue in the stores and so its understandable that WG use them. The game can be played completely free to play, while still offering opportunities to get free tanks and gold e.g xmas free snow globe, or if you watch free daily videos, you can get over 18k gold a year for free. So although WG may promote them, no one is forcing under 18's like me to get them. The statistics are almost always posted, so we know our drop chances and can choose to take our chances, and if someone is spending more than they can afford to, that is their fault. Furthermore, you can't blame a company for how much a child may be spending, it is vital for the company to make money to keep functioning, so the responsibility should be in the parents here to monitor what their child is doing or spending and to control that if necessary

alpine bear
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why does Asia server can choose X2, X5, X10 crates for less gold, and in EU server it is just 15k gold for X15 crates for Smashers? is it unfair that way? thanks 🙂

near sparrow
#

so many people are speculating about Churchill GC and Toaster coming back to the store.... i love the idea as i want those TD's... question is when and how much???

woeful nacelle
#

Mystery crates

terse tendon
#

hey guys, any mod soon?

formal stratus
#

Any news on the patch yet? I hate to bug support about it again.

lean sable
odd vine
#

Why do people say that the sounds of the game have changed while apart from the voice of the Chinese crew I hear no difference?

split epoch
#

when in march

surreal egret
#

nobody knows and wg dont want to spoil us

zenith bison
# spice merlin You may not approve of crates, but you have to remember that WG is a company and...

"WG needs to make money" There's tons of forms to make money, you don't need to make an online cassico to do it

"WG never makes anyone buy those crates, and if kids are doing it, that it's their choice" No, no. It's cleaelry not because they got addicted to this "surprise mechanic" (sarcasm)

"The argument of them being under 18 I don't feel is valid here." Yeah it's valid. IRL you need to be 18 to make a bet in a cassino, meanwhile in a kid's game, all you need is your mom's credit card password

"I'm 17 and I fully recognise that if I buy crates I know what I'm doing" In a cassino, this excuse isn't good enough, you know. Also, I don't think that all the 18, do know what they are doing, do you think otherwise?

"Many other games... with rating of like 3+ promote gambling too with free daily spins" wait, a free gamble? Free gambles don't exist, you can read the definition of gambling later

"The reason that people get so mad with crates is because they normally they don't get what they think they're going to get" Basically, the concept of a bet as like in a cassino. Cassinos are for 18+.

"I assure you if you get every reward from crate you wanted, you would not care" First of all, I don't sell my opinion for a crate. I'll be honest, I already got 4 tanks in crates, 3 of them in free weekly crates (SU-100Y, T23E3 and T25) and in crate for gold before I understood that loot boxes like those are gambling (Got T-34-85 Rudy). Even after this all from 2018-19, I still hate gambling systems

And then you spam the EA excuses of why it's not a gamble system, "it's just a surprise mechanic"

midnight spindle
#

Was the gold popup event one time or does it start randomly for everyone? I bought gold and got coupons but no popup

tropic moon
mint hound
#

I guess it might be easier to defend if you get a tank for very cheap rather than paying a bit more for a guaranteed tank.

I’d prefer the crates where they have the parts guaranteed in each crate. It’s an expensive tank in the end (unless lucky) but you atleast have some limit to it rather than spending a large amount without knowing how much you need

zenith bison
# spice merlin You may not approve of crates, but you have to remember that WG is a company and...

Part 2

"Crates will generally bring in a greater revenue in the stores and so it's understandable that WG use them" it's not as like if they could do anything else than a crate. WG designers are extremely inspired and smart when making op premiums, their imagination would be the perfect help to make anything, not necessarily crates.

Once again you talk about free things, I'll just ignore because there's no free gambling

"Statistics are almost always posted, so we know our drop chances and can choose to take our chances..." 'almost always' isn't 'always'. Also, clearly the 14 years old kid reads the chances to get something in a loot box, right?

"... and if someone is spending more than they can afford to, that it's their fault." If the child got addicted to loot boxes, it's his/her fault after all (sarcams again)

"Futhermore, you can't blame a company for how much a child may be spending..." yeah, I can't blame for that. But I can blame this company for supporting a web-cassino for thise same children

"It's vital for the company to make money to keep functioning..." It's perfectly ok that a company wants to lucrate, money is good after all, evwryone likes it. The problem comes when the company abuses the costumer to "milk" every cent from him/her, even if it's a child.

"So the responsibility should be in the parents here to monitor what the child is doing or spending and to control if necessary" that's truth and a strong argument, but with or without the permission of your parents, you still can't enter in a cassino, right? So why do kids can enter in an online cassino?

coarse creek
#

If they are that dumb to put money on crates, i blame them not wg. Sure wg is a you know what

zenith bison
#

As like @mint hound said, it's easier to support loot boxes when you got something on them. But I don't sell my opinion for a little 3D design. Selling my own opinion isn't part of my personality at all

spice merlin
#

Part 1
"WG needs to make money" You compare it to an online casino, however casinoes are designed with the intention to gamble. This is a game, you can play the game without gambling, but you can't go to a casino and participate without gambling
"No, no. It's cleaely not because they got addicted to this "surprise mechanic" (sarcasm)" This yet again is the parent's responsibility to monitor, WG cannot be blamed for this as this is not required for them when playing the game.
"Yeah it's valid. IRL you need to be 18 to make a bet in a cassino, meanwhile in a kid's game, all you need is your mom's credit card password" Yet again, this is the responsibility of the parent. If a parent sees hundreds leaving their account and doesnt ask or question why this is happening, then that is simply the fault of the parent for providing access to what you're saying is a gambling addiction
"In a cassino, this excuse isn't good enough, you know. Also, I don't think that all the 18, do know what they are doing, do you think otherwise?" This analogy is flawed as I said in my first point, as it is the person in question's decision to partake in this. You can play the game without spending a penny, you cannot do that in a casino.
"Wait, a free gamble? Free gambles don't exist, you can read the definition of gambling later" That's an error on my part. In my example I missed out the important part, that after your daily free spin, it gives you an offer for £1.99 everyday to do a 'premium' spin. This would be repeated everyday on an app with a 3+ rating, which would be a lot worse than what WG is doing with crates in promoting gambling.
"Basically, the concept of a bet as like in a cassino. Cassinos are for 18+." - I have addressed ur point on casinos so won't repeat it haha
"First of all, I don't sell my opinion for a crate." I wasn't trying to imply that you do, my point more so was based on the idea that not everyone can win. Which I get annoys some, but it also benefits some too

midnight spindle
#

Hello, I have an emergency... I made a purchase but I didn't receive what I bought while I was debited to my bank account

coarse creek
#

Anyone else love being ripped off by wg? To bananapeel to the comment below: then its thier parents fault not to check what thier child is doing.

cyan tundra
#

@midnight spindle Go to player support

zinc escarp
#

If its an adult buying crates, then yes, its probally their fault for being 'scammed', but if its a minor, the responsibility lies on wg for offering gambling to minors (in the same way leaving a gun, adult content, drugs, or alcohol readily available to minors is illegal)

zealous tangle
#

make smasher op, officially recognise its op and that you wont nerf it, everyone knows its op and wants it nerfed, sell overpriced crates with 3% drop chance, everyone buys them because it wont ever be nerfed, nobody gets smasher because its 3% drop chance for 1k gold, people dont want nerf because nobody got smasher, game balance is not destroyed because nobody got smasher, wargaming makes a lot of money, wargaming just pump and dumped us guys

wooden burrow
tired thicket
zenith bison
# spice merlin Part 1 "WG needs to make money" You compare it to an online casino, however casi...

"You compare it to an online casino, however casinoes are designed with the intention to gamble. This is a game, you can play the game without gambling, but you can't go to a casino and participate without gambling" and Aren't loot boxes designed to you gamble too? then explain why the % of good stuff is so low. (also, thanks, I didn't know that the word Casino had only 1 S)

"This yet again is the parent's responsibility to monitor, WG cannot be blamed for this as this is not required for them when playing the game." basically a: if a company makes an online casino for underage people, it's not the company"s problem at all. I totally disagree with this, even online Casinos like wotb will need to follow the real life rules; stop the gambling or make the game 18+!

"Yet again, this is the responsibility of the parent. If a parent sees hundreds leaving their account and doesnt ask or question why this is happening, then that is simply the fault of the parent for providing access to what you're saying is a gambling addiction
"In a cassino, this excuse isn't good enough, you know. Also, I don't think that all the 18, do know" In real life, if you're underage, you can't even step in a Casino. it's not about playing without buy the boxes, it's about banning the possibility of an underage gambling, as like irl.

"This analogy is flawed as I said in my first point, as it is the person in question's decision to partake in this. You can play the game without spending a penny, you cannot do that in a casino." I'll repeat what i've said but in different words; if you're underage you can't even enter in a casino, with or without your parents letting you do it. But if it's an online casino, all you need is your mom's credit card password.

I'm running out of letters that I can use in this comment, so i'll answer the onther things in 15 minutes

also, no@zealous tangle, rarity isn't a balancing factor

spice merlin
#

Part 2 "And then you spam the EA excuses of why it's not a gamble system, "it's just a surprise mechanic"" Not once did I use the term 'surprise mechanic', but you're getting mad at an optional game system. yes you have to pay but that is solely down to your choice to partake in any in game gambling.
" it's not as like if they could do anything else than a crate..." Yeah but your solution to crates is to implement an alternative creative gambling system to crates? Which defeats the majority of your points
"almost always' isn't 'always'." The items 99% of the time have the statistics like drop rates posted in them. I'm sorry but if a kid is thinking they can get a tier X for 1500, that is their fault. If you buy without reading and checking stuff, you are just dumb and can't receive sympathy for that when it was preventable
" If the child got addicted to loot boxes, it's his/her fault after all (sarcams again)" Well you cannot blame a company for providing an optional service that the child has chosen to use their money on. It is the responsibility of the parents to control and prevent this, not a company, who will profit from this, and so financially would be a stupid decision for them
"I can blame this company for supporting a web-cassino for thise same children" Already addressed your casino analogy
"The problem comes when the company abuses the costumer to "milk" every cent from him/her, even if it's a child." Well of course they are going to promote their products, but I feel they are in no way milking them. They provide the offers and deals, but these are all optional and there is no pressure to buy their stuff as you can play free to play regardless.
" So why do kids can enter in an online cassino?" Casino is still flawed. Your analogy is like saying if you can swim in a hotel, its basically a swimming pool Also BananaPeel, that's wrong because that is the responsibility of the parent, not WG to prevent the child wasting money

midnight spindle
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zenith bison
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"Not once did I use the term 'surprise mechanic', but you're getting mad at an optional game system. yes you have to pay but that is solely down to your choice to partake in any in game gambling.", lol the "surprise mechanic" part was a joke

"Yeah but your solution to crates is to implement an alternative creative gambling system to crates? Which defeats the majority of your points" did I ever mentioned that it'll have to be another gambling system?

"The items 99% of the time have the statistics like drop rates posted in them. I'm sorry but if a kid is thinking they can get a tier X for 1500, that is their fault. If you buy without reading and checking stuff, you are just dumb and can't receive sympathy for that when it was preventable" If a kid is naive enough to believe that he/she can do it, it's clearly the kid"s fault, looool (sarcasm)

I forgot to ping @spice merlin

"Casino is still flawed. Your analogy is like saying if you can swim in a hotel, its basically a swimming pool Also BananaPeel, that's wrong because that is the responsibility of the parent, not WG to prevent the child wasting money" Loot boxes follow the same concept of a casino activity and their spam DOES make the game an online cassino

"I have addressed ur point on casinos so won't repeat it haha" If you don't want to repeat, i'll do it: Loot boxes follow the same concept of a casino activity and their spam DOES make the game an online cassino. and Aren't loot boxes designed to you gamble too? then explain why the % of good stuff is so low.

"I wasn't trying to imply that you do, my point more so was based on the idea that not everyone can win. Which I get annoys some, but it also benefits some too" as like gambling

spice merlin
# zenith bison "You compare it to an online casino, however casinoes are designed with the inte...

"This is a game, you can play the game without gambling...." wait sorry how do you go to a casino without gambling?? I don't understand? (haha no worries :D)
"...stop the gambling or make the game 18+!" Well, I think you're taking this to extremes that you don't fully mean. Let's say WG made the game 18+, crates are still in the game. Are you happy now? Because regardless of if they did that, you will still have U18's playing the game, and WG will lose a huge amount of their playerbase, so the whole game will just introduce more expensive crates for everyone to make up for the money lost
"....n real life, if you're underage, you can't even step in a Casino...." Well you can't no, but although yes there may be ethical concerns with it potentially, however WG is breaking no laws and so nothing will be changing any time soon.
"But if it's an online casino, all you need is your mom's credit card password." Well although there are aspects that I agree are true, they aren't breaking any laws, and as it is a game, there are lots of U18 players, so u18 players would be very unhappy if you weren't allowed the chance to get a tank because you're under 18
LOLLLL this slow mode is kinda painful hahahahaha, also imma emphasise I do not have any issue with you as a person, you seem nice. (Just in case any replies came off as aggressive)

lyric blade
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ngl I like reading this full on debate...it's great for reading in the middle of class

coarse creek
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Whatever anyone says i came to my conclusion this game has no ethics . Knowing innocent kids will buy without thinking and getting money in a way like this is no means a good conduct. What u say @spice merlin . yeah wg sure loves money over ethics(that too feeding on yound kids)

chilly pike
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Ah, we are arguing about Gambling containers? I can put forth my own thoughts on this.
For a focus most notable, the new Smasher containers. But not for the whole ethic and morale issues, rather the fact that they add it to begin with.
Lets see what they said in #devs-answers , hmm..."We admit those two perform better than other tier VII tanks"
You've admitted that these are better tanks. That they don't have a place in tier 7 matchmaking.
So why are you selling it in Gambling containers?
15 minute slowmode? Well, I suppose nothing suprising.

zenith bison
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""This is a game, you can play the game without gambling...." wait sorry how do you go to a casino without gambling?? I don't understand? (haha no worries :D)" The part that you answered was literally what you've said. you answered yourself

"Let's say WG made the game 18+, crates are still in the game. Are you happy now?..." Yes, cuz now gambling will be exclusively for aged people, as like irl

"Because regardless of if they did that, you will still have U18's playing the game, and WG will lose a huge amount of their playerbase, so the whole game will just introduce more expensive crates for everyone to make up for the money lost" There's another option, maintain the 12/14+ yo as recommended age, but ban loot boxes

"Well you can't no, but although yes there may be ethical concerns with it potentially, however WG is breaking no laws and so nothing will be changing any time soon." actually... EU, UK, USA, and even Brazil have plans to copy what Switzerland did: ban loot boxes for underage games

"Well although there are aspects that I agree are true, they aren't breaking any laws, and as it is a game, there are lots of U18 players, so u18 players would be very unhappy if you weren't allowed the chance to get a tank because you're under 18" they're not breaking any laws until now, but it's truth that morally WG is extremely wrong. Also, the majority of players will be pretty happen, it was proven in a survey that most of us are purely against loot boxes at all

Yeah, this slowmode is painful, and I forgot to ping again @spice merlin

spice merlin
# zenith bison "Not once did I use the term 'surprise mechanic', but you're getting mad at an o...

Part whatever we're on lol "** lol the "surprise mechanic" part was a joke"** sorry haha misunderstood oops lolllll

"did I ever mentioned that it'll have to be another gambling system?" what is your solution then? One that will make a similar amount of money for them? Because I don't think there is a solution to it

"If a kid is naive enough to believe that he/she can do it, it's clearly the kid"s fault, looool (sarcasm)" how can you blame WG if a kid doesnt read it? that is completely unreasonable? that's the child's fault without a doubt

"Loot boxes follow the same concept of a casino activity" I agree that there are aspects similar to it especially with crates, but I feel you still need to bare in mind that these are more so minigames that people can pay for. The main game has a much larger focus than any crates, even if they do push crates a lot.

"and Aren't loot boxes designed to you gamble too? then explain why the % of good stuff is so low." Because they need to make money and you have to understand that. Yes % could be higher but we get what we get. If you don't like it, you don't need to buy it

"as like gambling" Yes I agree it is gambling. However, taking into account you can get 18250 gold a year for free (with daily videos) , and you can buy a lot of crates for gold, not all crates therefore are gambling by your logic? also @coarse creek I agree that its not necessarily ethical, but it is their choice and they will continue to do it because it's profitable. I personally don't mind them, as it does give the opportunity to get tanks cheaply, but I understand that is is gmabling which is not right with children
(sorry if my formatting hasn't been great previously lol)
@zenith bison

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coarse creek
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U like gambing becuz it gives good tanks for cheap prizes for 1% of the guys that spend on crates and remaining 99% will bite dust. I hate it to the core @spice merlin

midnight spindle
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Last I checked parents should be parenting their children and not letting them spend money unsupervised on digital product. It's not wargaming's job to supervise the children of lazy parents.

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I wish I said nothing now lol, some people have too much time on their hands to argue

spice merlin
# zenith bison ""This is a game, you can play the game without gambling...." wait sorry how do ...

Man I'm confused, I have no idea how I ended up answering myself lol, my bad.

"Yes, cuz now gambling will be exclusively for aged people, as like irl" But then people complain that the crates would be even more expensive. Either way, WG lose and with it probably lots of money. You have to remember they are a company with in app purchases as their source of income.

"There's another option, maintain the 12/14+ yo as recommended age, but ban loot boxes" but doing so will lose them a lot of money? which as they are a company, a stupid decision. Although not ethical, they need to keep money coming in, and this is evidently one of the best ways they earn money

"EU, UK, USA, and even Brazil have plans to copy what Switzerland did: ban loot boxes for underage games" Well yeah, so it will be changed eventually. But you just can't really speed it up because they wont change it until they legally have to

"they're not breaking any laws until now, but it's truth that morally WG is extremely wrong. Also, the majority of players will be pretty happen, it was proven in a survey that most of us are purely against loot boxes at all" yeah it may be morally wrong, but it is a company running a fairly small free to play game, so I personally understand why they're doing it, even if I don't encourage it
@zenith bison

@coarse creek well thats perfectly fine and respectable to hate it to the core.... just simply don't buy any crates then haha

coarse creek
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My points is wg is unethical of making money from kids from crate system. And whats with supporting such a system. I hope u find urself funny by getting ripped off in a gambling. But iam not the type and majority doesnt like to be ripped off by spending in gambling @spice merlin. By the way only some goes to casino to test thier luck becuz everyone thinks its such a dumb thing to gamble. So if u are exposing it to kids ,u know what will happen

midnight spindle
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@coarse creek it's not wargaming's job to babysit parents kids. Parents need to step up to the plate and be more responsible. they are the ones who should be controlling their kids spending. It's not up to the game developer.

it is my responsibility as a parent to decide what my kid is going to spend money on. It is not a game developers. Frankly I think it's sad that parents are doing such a poor job that there are people who are willing to absolve their responsibility and hand it over to a game developer.

zenith bison
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"sorry haha misunderstood oops lolllll" np mate

"what is your solution then? One that will make a similar amount of money for them? Because I don't think there is a solution to it" It's not up to me anyways, as I said, the WG tank designers are extremely smart when making op premiums, they may do it well too

"how can you blame WG if a kid doesnt read it? that is completely unreasonable? that's the child's fault without a doubt" I wouldn't judge a kid for being naive, it's a kid after all. weren't you naive when you were 12-14 too? almost everyone was

"I agree that there are aspects similar to it especially with crates, but I feel you still need to bare in mind that these are more so minigames that people can pay for. The main game has a much larger focus than any crates, even if they do push crates a lot." But stills, the bet systems continue existing

"Because they need to make money and you have to understand that. Yes % could be higher but we get what we get. If you don't like it, you don't need to buy it" So you agree that WG does earn money by gambles in a 12/14 yo game?

"However, taking into account you can get 18250 gold a year for free (with daily videos)..." we all know that the main way to get gold is by spending money, but ok, you got a fair point

"but doing so will lose them a lot of money? which as they are a company, a stupid decision." Well, as I said, our incredible devs can think in something to replace the gambling

"Although not ethical, they need to keep money coming in, and this is evidently one of the best ways they earn money"Ethic isn't exactly only about money, you know. I believe that it's unethical using naive kids to get money.

"well thats perfectly fine and respectable to hate it to the core.... just simply don't buy any crates then haha" it's quite hard to say "hey stop buying crates" to an addicted person

I'll be answering you in next comment @midnight spindle
also, forgot to ping @spice merlin

midnight spindle
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Wargaming's job is to offer a quality product that people want to buy in order to keep the game running. Crates fill that niche. if you don't like them, don't buy them. If you don't want your kids to buy them don't let your kids buy them. If enough consumers take that stand wargaming will realize that crates are not an effective way of generating income and they will seek out a new method.

sacred sphinx
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has this been going for 20 hours now
aside from the break when NA went to sleep
lets keep this going for 24 hours
i remember seeing yall yesterday afternoon

midnight spindle
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It just saddens me that we've gotten to the point where people feel like they have to ask governments or game developers to do the job that parents should be doing.

undone pelican
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iirc most iOS devices have parent authentication settings where the parents can lock purchases with a separate passcode

woeful spade
# midnight spindle It just saddens me that we've gotten to the point where people feel like they ha...

So you consider it the parent’s fault if I give a child some poison and say “drink it”, because they clearly should have supervised the child 24/7?

Why is it not the same? Is it the same if I leave some poison at the sidewalk and place a sign there saying “drink it”?

Parental approval just makes something a physical impossibility. It’s the digital equivalent of not giving your kid any money to spend in real life

The lock being a button asking “Are you sure?”

It’s not the parents that are exposing children or anyone else to gambling, it’s the game developer

midnight spindle
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@woeful spade not the same. Good try though.

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My son has to get parental approval to spend any money on a video game. that's how we set it up when we created his accounts. It's not that hard to do.

coarse creek
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Well yeah parents are to be blamed but what about the company. Is it doing the RIGHT thing. I mean it can blame parents for not educating sons if he puts money into the game. Instead of just having some 18+.please dont tell me its for money

midnight spindle
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It's not the same because there's no lock around it that has to be bypassed. to purchase something online you have to go through a set of steps. it is not the same thing as a kid picking up something on the sidewalk and sticking it in their mouth. It just isn't.

zenith bison
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"it's not wargaming's job to babysit parents kids. Parents need to step up to the plate and be more responsible. they are the ones who should be controlling their kids spending. It's not up to the game developer." Yep, that's truth, but doesn't mean that it's a gambling system in a 12/14 yo game. Gambling is clearly good for a kid (sarcasm)

"it is my responsibility as a parent to decide what my kid is going to spend money on. It is not a game developers. Frankly I think it's sad that parents are doing such a poor job that there are people who are willing to absolve their responsibility and hand it over to a game developer.", once again, it may be parent's responsible, but stills morally wrong. irl it wouldn't be legal, since with or without your parent's permission, under age people can't gamble

"Crates fill that niche. if you don't like them, don't buy them. If you don't want your kids to buy them don't let your kids buy them." I know i've repeated it a lot of times, but it's hard to an addicted person simply stop.

"It just saddens me that we've gotten to the point where people feel like they have to ask governments or game developers to do the job that parents should be doing." That's the purpose of a politician, resolve things that people in general can't resolve

"...to purchase something online you have to go through a set of steps...", Yeah, you need to put the credit card password and all, but what if you already have money in a Steam wallet for example? Steam won't ask you to put anything, You buy the item in literally 3 clicks @midnight spindle

midnight spindle
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Personally, I can't stand crates. I very rarely buy them. That is my decision as a consumer. I do not let my children by loot boxes. That is my responsibility as a parent.

As far as right or wrong goes. The definitions are very ambiguous. if you wanted to you could say every purchase of digital content is wrong. You are not getting anything, you do not own anything that you've bought, and honestly it could all disappear in a millisecond.

Going back to my son's accounts, all of his accounts are linked to my email so if he makes a purchase I know about it immediately. In addition to this I've raised him so that he knows he has to get permission before he purchases something. Once again it is my responsibility as a parent to raise my children. I do not want or need the government or game developers to step in and try and fill this role for me.

woeful spade
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This isn’t about when everything goes right or is done right. If everything went right all the time we wouldn’t need all those prohibitive laws. But that quite simply isn’t the case, and thus most governments decided that they want to stop harmful practices to protect the general population. Gambling is only great for one person and that is the host, everyone else just suffers in the long term.

Also, Wargaming is responsible for what they put in their game. An unrelated example would be the Annihilator - do you blame those who play it or WG for putting it into the game?

I want to point out that I do not buy crates.

And well, we wouldn’t have a balancing issue in tier seven if everyone stopped spamming Annihilators, but heyho, here we are. We run into two issues here, one is the fact that there is a tool that is tempting to use and one is that there is not a coordinated hive-mind-like countermovement. While you can certainly blame both I rather think that it is more justified to call Wargaming to action, as they created the problem in the first place and because it’s a lot easier to regulate the whole debacle from their side than from the player side

reef fable
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very true

midnight spindle
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Correct. Wargaming is accountable for what they put in their game but at the end of the day they would not be putting product in if players weren't buying it. Once again it is the consumer who has the control. If you don't like the items that are being sold stop buying them.

coarse creek
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Well only one question. If a parent is not supervising a child, is it okay for the company to take advantage ? So for this case whats the solution wg came to. Exploit them? Just say what impression does it leave on a normal person if a company is doing this @midnight spindle
I blame both @woeful spade
@midnight spindle. Mind u re read my question. Iam just asking what u do for this case. Iam not asking to implement the solution to supervised children which is meant for unsupervised children
U know what there is no such case as unsupervised children .i just wanted to discuss what if it exists.
Seems like no solution for that. So who am i to oppose thier dumbness if thier parents can approve to gamble. Let him do whatever. I know my way to not spend money and enjoy this game .

midnight spindle
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Is the solution to a parent not supervising their child for all of us to be treated like unsupervised children?

zenith bison
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Allow me to be a bit hypocritical here: There's 3 types of loot boxes that are much less harmful. I still hate those but they're acceptable.

  • The ones that you always win (like the 2020 snowglobe, or those tier loot boxes)
  • Free weekly loot boxes (it's not gambling if you're going to lose nothing
  • Loot boxes with guaranteed parts ( so there will be no infinite gambling as our friend @mint hound said)
    Otherwise, the loot boxes are purely gambling systems that want to milk every cent from you and need to stop; or by the hand of the costumer (which won't happen cuz of addicted people) or by the hand of law

"Is the solution to a parent not supervising their child for all of us to be treated like unsupervised children?" Unfortunately, yes. I believe that the government is here to help us even if we end looking like kids... But let's see the good side, no more gambling in 12/14 yo games 🙂

Well, that's all

midnight spindle
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Well, now we're getting into the intentions of government which is not a discussion I'm going to have here. Have fun with this one guys, keep it civil.

vagrant spindle
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It calls for action from both parents/guardians and the government, because gambling is a problem with the general population, not just you.

coarse creek
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To imagine that some parents can even approve to let their child gamble . its awesome. Well End Of Discussion from my side. I just wanted to say crates are bad and someone makes a vedio on how they are getting fooled.
Just know my poor friend lost 50 euros to smasher crates :joy:
Ha i see u like getting ripped @Duvet415#7650

zenith bison
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@coarse creek Yeah, I wonder that too. What type of parent actually let the child gamble online for an 3D design?

spice merlin
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"My points is wg is unethical of making money from kids from crate system. And whats with supporting such a system. I hope u find urself funny by getting ripped off in a gambling. But iam not the type and majority doesnt like to be ripped off by spending in gambling" Bruh I've been ripped off tonnes already. I'm no idiot so although I'm u18, I still recognise that as being completely MY fault as I took MY chances, WG didn't make me. @coarse creek Plus I never said it was ethical, but I am literally the "kids" you're describing, so I will speak for myself thank you.

"It's not up to me anyways, as I said, the WG tank designers are extremely smart when making op premiums" Yeah but I don't think that is fair to complain about one thing when you can't provide a solution

"I wouldn't judge a kid for being naive, it's a kid after all. weren't you naive when you were 12-14 too? almost everyone was" I may have been less aware, but I could still read. So in that scenario it is the child's fault

"But stills, the bet systems continue existing" It does continue, but that is

" So you agree that WG does earn money by gambles in a 12/14 yo game?" Well it does, and I myself am a victim of that. But they don't just earn it from underage kids

"we all know that the main way to get gold is by spending money, but ok, you got a fair point" so are you less opposed to getting crates using gold then? because yes you can gamble by buying gold, but the game also gives you ways to earn it

"Well, as I said, our incredible devs can think in something to replace the gambling" yeah but that's a lot of work, and time and probably loss of money, which is dumb for a company

"Ethic isn't exactly only about money, you know. I believe that it's unethical using naive kids to get money. " You see I know the whole world isn't about money, but you have to keep in mind WG is a company, not a person. The company's main goal therefore is to earn money.(had din)

coarse creek
# spice merlin **"My points is wg is unethical of making money from kids from crate system. An...

Just how dumb is one to think that they are ok to be ripped off. Well i dont want to comment on ur intellectual. But u see anyone with some thinking understands that gambling will get u nowhere except into being broke. And u claimed urself u are not an idiot but yet u gambled. I hope iam not wrong that guys who can think will not even touch gambles like this. Also its not even random as in casinos.

dry marsh
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Lmao ethics, who tf talking bout ethics here

The whole bloody game is based off of tank warfare and killing, aint nothing ethical about that

Btw Crates is a buisness strategy aight, its not wargamings fault that stupid kids are wasting money on their game

zenith bison
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"Yeah but I don't think that is fair to complain about one thing when you can't provide a solution" Fair enough, I'll be thinking about it

"Yeah but I don't think that is fair to complain about one thing when you can't provide a solution" Well, The child may think "I'm lucky enough to do it with 20 dollars", and welp, I don't need to explain what happens some minutes later

"Well it does, and I myself am a victim of that. But they don't just earn it from underage kids" it may not be exclusive to underage people, but the majority is from them since the game is for 12/14 yo kids

"so are you less opposed to getting crates using gold then? because yes you can gamble by buying gold, but the game also gives you ways to earn it" No I'm not less opposed gold boxes because gold can be earned for free. The main way to get gold does still vie real money

"You see I know the whole world isn't about money, but you have to keep in mind WG is a company, not a person. The company's main goal therefore is to earn money." Yeah, but it stills the wrong way to get money. Even the BP spam is less evil than a loot box.

@coarse creek @dry marsh keep it civil guys
"The whole bloody game is based off of tank warfare and killing, aint nothing ethical about that" Arcade games in a nutshell. Also, bruh, I don't want to look aggressive, but this argument is simply bad in most of possible ways

"Btw Crates is a buisness strategy aight, its not wargamings fault that stupid kids are wasting money on their game" I like the lux's example even if spartacus disliked, so i'll use this example here but a little different: @dry marsh If I let a glass of poison inside a school, is it my fault that a kid drank it? Using you argument then no, it's not my fault that a "stupid kid" did it

vagrant spindle
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Someone had to create the scheme in the first place for you to get exploited. Is it "completely" your fault? As reckless as you were, No. For a same reason why so many older gambling activities are heavily regulated. They counted on people like you to be vulnerable.

spice merlin
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@coarse creek , do you mind actually supporting your points with supporting ideas instead of just trying to insult me lol, stay civil. I didn't say it was okay to be ripped off, I said I didn't cry that it was WG's fault, as it was my own for taking the risk. As this is an intelligent reflection of MY own action, because WG did not make me buy any crates. And if you're honestly saying you have never ever bought a crate in your life, then I don't think you should be discussing this here.

"The child may think "I'm lucky enough to do it with 20 dollars", and welp, I don't need to explain what happens some minutes later" Well yeah, but this is when it should be the responsibility of the parents to control and monitor this

"it may not be exclusive to underage people, but the majority is from them since the game is for 12/14 yo kids" In my experience I only know a few players u18, but I agree a lot of players are probably younger so this is not good I agree

"No I'm not less opposed gold boxes because gold can be earned for free" yes, but if the gold can be earned for free, then this is technically not gambling. Although most gold is bought, this is not the case in every scenario, so that must taken into account

"Yeah, but it stills the wrong way to get money. Even the BP spam is less evil than a loot box." Dw I know, although I understand WG's reasoning, I do not personally agree. I just understand why they will ccontinue to do it. Does not mean I agree with their reasoning

coarse creek
dry marsh
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Yall are just scared of capitalism, With ur example If there were scissors in class and a kid ate the scissors or used the scissors to kill someone Whos fault is it? Is it the kids fault for killing someone with the scissors or is it the companies fault for creating the scissors or is it the schools fault for allowing scissors into the school

It is not wargamings fault for providing a system where if you just pray to get a tank by chance, they aren't Forcing you to buy it but with great advertising it lures people in. It's a business, everyone does it, get over it.

It's not a knife manufactures fault for selling knives that may or may not be used in a murder

It's not my fault I bring some science experiment chemical into school and some stupid kid drinks it, I did not kill the kid

Aight brazil keep squabbling I don't care anymore you guys seriously have nothing better to do than bash a company doing normal company things

It is not wargamings fault for providing a system in where a kid may be addicted to spending money on it

Infact thats exactly what you want, lure customers in to spending more. I say good on you wargaming Your sales department need a raise 🙂

low plover
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Eating popcorn while watching the discussion...

velvet dawn
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Are we arguing about loot boxes? Ok so here is my two cents. Loot boxes promote gambling and I’m saying that they should have never been added to this game. Ok what is the most lucrative way a developer can earn money? It’s not loot boxes, it is the battle pass. The reason for this would be the battle pass provides a sense of accomplishment for the player. if I can be top 3 in Xp earned then maybe I can get the next tier. N Now let’s make a comparison that a player spent 10 dollars for a battle pass and another who spent 10 dollars on 5 loot boxes. Is the player who spent money on loot boxes guaranteed anything? NO! The player is left empty handed because they were unlucky. Now compare that to the person who bought the battle pass. That player has an opportunity to get more out of the game what with extra challenges or cosmetics.

Tldr: loot boxes are a form of gambling

tired hollow
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Its not just loot box its gambling loot box

zenith bison
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"Well yeah, but this is when it should be the responsibility of the parents to control and monitor this" Yeah, but I just wonder what parent actually let the kid gamble. I presume that kids don't usually tell the parents about the changes of a loot box before buy those (just a baseless guess)

"yes, but if the gold can be earned for free, then this is technically not gambling. Although most gold is bought, this is not the case in every scenario, so that must taken into account", I see, I liked this argument, I'll be thinking about it later
@spice merlin

@dry marsh "With ur example If there were scissors in class and a kid ate the scissors or used the scissors to kill someone Whos fault is it" and that's why in school, they recommend buying sharp less scissors, lol

"It is not wargamings fault for providing a system where if you just pray to get a tank by chance, they aren't Forcing you to buy it but with great advertising it lures people in. It's a business, everyone does it, get over it." I guess you didn't understand, luring kids to buy a product that is purely gambling (just to remember, gambling is 18+ irl)

"It's not a knife manufactures fault for selling knives that may or may not be used in a murder" that's also why sharp less knives and scissors are recommended for kids. But if you're talking abut adults that know perfectly what they're doing then it's exclusively the adult's fault for the aggression

"It's not my fault I bring some science experiment chemical into school and some stupid kid drinks it, I did not kill the kid" Legally, you would be indirectly the reason of the kid drinking it. Why did you let a possibly harmful thing near a child on the first place?

"Infact thats exactly what you want, lure customers in to spending more. I say good on you wargaming Your sales department need a raise" lure 18+ costumers? ok. lure kids? never

lyric blade
dry marsh
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Alright then this whole kids nonsense, Wargaming is not targeting their products towards kids. It is not their fault if Kids want to buy their products. Pretty sure ages 14-17 are not that stupid too. It is not wargamings responsibility and where is the kid getting the money from? their parents? Its the parents job to stop the kid from spending money not the bloody company. I can say for certain that Wargaming is targeting people with money, and majority of people who really spend alot of money are adults

Omfg How many times do I need to explain, @velvet dawn IT is Not wargamings Fault IF YOU BUY their PRODUCT.

@velvet dawn If you want a better deal for yourself, wait for the tank to be on sale So you can Buy the product, The current product being sold is the chance to win a smasher. It is your conscious choice if you want to take the chance or not.
It is not their fault if you bought their shovel of dirt for a thousand dollars

velvet dawn
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@dry marsh what? So are you saying that it’s ok to spend a lot of money for a tank that has what less than a 5 percent drop rate? That’s not fair to the player. Wargaming isn’t making the player happy so why should the player continue to support the game. Yeah wargaming made money but it hurts the future because i as the play want to spend money on something that is guaranteed rather than to test my luck trying to get som shiny new overpowered tank.

It’s predatory regardless. Nothing is guaranteed bro it’s literally scamming. If the player spent what 30 dollars on a mobile game for 15 loot boxes what are the odds of then getting what they want? How likely will that player want to come back if a game starts to become pay to win?

I’m interested in buying a tank that has a 3 percent drop rate. If it is 100 then I’d might consider it.

@zenith bison my guy spitting straight facts

@low pelican if my grandma gets me a steam gift card I can just use that money. It’s super easy to buy something little Timmy just found in the shop

waxen nebula
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I would like customizing tanks by color like red and white on the E100 because there is no 60TP 😠 WG DO SOMETHING. It wil pay off because polish players will buy gold to "polish their tanks"

coarse creek
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Well @spice merlin u still wanna try ur luck on the crates?

zenith bison
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"Yall are just scared of capitalism..." Calm down yankee, you're getting quite angry so I'll let you talk alone after this comment. I don't like to argue with salty people

"Alright then this whole kids nonsense, Wargaming is not targeting their products towards kids." The game is literally recommended for 12/14 yo kids, what areyou talking about

"Pretty sure ages 14-17 are not that stupid too" you're over estimating kids...

"Its the parents job to stop the kid from spending money not the bloody company" It's ok that a kid spent money with parent's permission, but it's not ok that a kid start gambling, with or without the parent's permission. irl a kid can't even enter in a casino, but if it's an online casino, all you need to know is your mom's credit card password (actually you don't even need a password if there's already money in your steam wallet)

[Insert deleted comment] it stills extremely wrong. With or without your parent's permission. this wasn't a cool argument, friend @spice merlin because one error don't justify another.

"IT is Not wargamings Fault IF YOU BUY their PRODUCT." it's their fault by let something that would be 18+ for kids. Gambling is 18+ irl and even @spice merlin agree that loot boxes are gambling.

@low pelican Once again, I have nothing against kids wasting money in games with parent's permission (unless if its a furry game, lol), I'm only against loot boxes because they are gambling, and online gambling should be 18+ as like irl gambling
I would defend loot boxes with all my heart if wotb was 18+, but it's not the current situation

"Ok then keep babbling your mouth then and try to sue wargaming, im sure that lawsuit will go down well" coff coff that is already happening in some countries, but not exactly to WG coff coff

Politicians in Brazil, EUA, EU, UK, etc are already doing it, they have plans to copy Switzerland and ban loot boxes in 18- games @dry marsh

low pelican
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Then shouldn't the parents not give their child money for the game?

dry marsh
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Ok then keep babbling your mouth then and try to sue wargaming, im sure that lawsuit will go down well, its all fun to debate about this in a public forum but are you actually going to do something about it? because spreading awarness aint gonna do jack

Alright indiantDonuts go ahead and try to sue wargamings billion dollar company and I will wait for the results 🙂

velvet dawn
coarse creek
zenith bison
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"Alright indiantDonuts go ahead and try to sue wargamings billion dollar company and I will wait for the results" I would want to do the same, but unfortunately I'm also underage and I'm not a lawyer/politician but i'm willing to be.

This discussion was good and all, but i've got to go, good bye

low plover
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Munching intensifies...

dry marsh
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I just want to add that it is harder to run a lawsuit against wargaming because the company is not based in America

surreal egret
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Lets put crates and stuff in those interactive games for kids, i wonder what will happen next 😋 👌

safe steeple
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this game was better 3 years ago ...

zenith bison
midnight spindle
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where can i describe a problem?

velvet dawn
eternal cairn
zenith bison
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Bruh... you almost got me

Loot boxes need to be banned because it's gambling in a 12/14+ game Vs. But it's not exactly gambling, also "WG needs to make money"/"it's parent's fault" @AndyPo on Blitz#4237

mighty hound
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Can someone sum up with what the entire thread above said?

Mmmmm, gambling, fun topic. There are definitely differing stipulations in terms of what is legal and not in certain countries. The Netherlands, for example, banned all online gambling from 18 and below. My point being that Wargaming needs to be careful with how they advertise crates especially towards children that can be manipulated easy. Should I explain why they are manipulated easier than adults or is that common sense?

If it were the parent's faults for their kids purchasing crates, then Wargaming should compensate by taking partial responsibility of these mistakes. My suggestion is to restrict crate purchases to 18 years and above to minimize the chance of accidental crate purchases from kids. At the same time, however, parents must also take responsibility for how they monitor their child's online purchases more efficiently. This is a symbiotic relationship between parents and WG, so communication between the two in terms of crates and the risk of gambling should also be increased to prevent aforementioned accidents from happening as often. But yes, I do agree that parents have the major responsibility for what their child does on the internet.

tropic peak
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E

zenith bison
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It's actually a cool idea. A compensation + somehow a system to separate kids and teens from 18+ in shop. No loot box for teens/kids but for 18+ players. fair enough for both sides

yep, but stills better than simply letting everyone buys it @tropic peak

tropic peak
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There is something called lying about your age, its like adult sites, they are 18+ but teens still use them

midnight spindle
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people fighting over the profit of crates and containers and gamblings and stuff . . . . . if you really want a change then just get a coding degree and work at Wargaming smh

versed elm
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Wg will never do that too much work for less profit as long as it's legal every mobile game will milk it

tropic moon
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People who write codes for the game aren't the same people who decide business models. A company as big as wg will have separate departments for this stuff

rotund badger
cursive wigeon
vernal reef
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Wotbiltz can you make skin GuP for wotbiltz please.......can you do that

barren wigeon
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@dry marsh WG has a NA branch. The WG Corporate HQ is theoretically in Cyprus (tax reasons one can assume) - but physically most of WG is in Belarus. WG announces odds for all ‘loot crate’ items that are sold. The free ones (or free unless you decided to buy) don’t have odds published as they are timed release free crates and don’t have to have odds listed. You can’t sue WG in the US, simply because they haven’t done anything wrong. If you are that upset at loot crates - write your state Senators and Congressional Rep.

thorny mirage
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Will wargaming planning to open those fun modes such as uprising mode, gravity mode, and others once a week

And changing the game modes once a week to increase the percentage of player online in a week.

Such as
Week1-gravity mode
Week2-uprising mode
Week3 -example
Week4-example
Week5-gravity mode

swift plover
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great idea right there👆

lean sable
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You mean 1 day a week or whole week?

dapper creek
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What if a random fun gamemode appear in saturday and ends on Monday

mint hound
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If they make it too frequent, people won’t be so excited for it each time it comes out, which I’m guessing isn’t what WG wants

dry marsh
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Bruh Ok Im not the one who wants the sue wargaming its those other players who think crates are unethical because some dumb reasons blah blah they keep rambling on how stupid ideas stop pinging me

woeful spade
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Salt

midnight spindle
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Wg please fix your servers, especially the Asian server. I get 150 ping with 20% loss even though my internet speed is always around 100mbps. I don't suffer any internet issues in other games, means there is problem in Asian server. Please fix this.

broken badger
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WG bad money makeer

granite pawn
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With Normal tech tree tank 133K+ credits LOL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

broken badger
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Honestly @dry marsh I don't understand why you protect WG soo bad like they didn't ever do anything bad. It's just a big money maker, have I to remind you this game is PEGI 7 and I'm pretty sure 2/3 blitz community are under 18? They are spamming with " cool " offers for kids to buy these. Also last times they totally started earn money from everything in this game, I laughed af when I saw 250 gold for 1 operation level. Just bruh, final reward is 200gold for people that don't support that baloney and they have to play whole month basically to get it. For 5 euro you get 500 at start. Tbh they are killing this game more and more

midnight spindle
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Who have the lt-432

granite pawn
mint hound
eternal cairn
# broken badger Honestly <@!242278078175379456> I don't understand why you protect WG soo bad li...

I agree, the amount of people playing the smasher and the annilator are endless, they are selling more crates, which make more people buy it which gives them more money and makes the game more broken. They also have no reason to not nerf the smasher. They don't know how many players are due to these broken tanks. People platoon in these tanks just to have pleasure watching other players suffer. Since update 7.3, I have never seen a match with no smasher/ anniltor in the matchmaking.

lean sable
dry marsh
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Im not protecting them but if they create a system in where their company generates alot of money then good for them, im not one to judge how they should run their company. Like hell, people want money. If you don't want to buy it, just don't buy their in game products. I don't see why not buying something that's not a good deal for yourself is so hard for people.

Stop pinging me

broken badger
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Yo they can earn money and make game good and fun for everyone... But they need every cent.

merry mauve
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WG is faceless to have such a great amount of too OP smasher without nerfing it

rotund badger
broken badger
zenith bison
dry marsh
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then stop replying in a ping ok I don't reply to people because if they want to see the reply then you can go read it yourself but don't ping me

surreal egret
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Ok bro, chill

verbal jackal
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G

zenith bison
surreal egret
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:|

frozen ravine
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Give 183 recticle calibration!

rain olive
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No

sacred sphinx
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1300 alpha hesh from across the map

valid merlin
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give jageroo reticle calibration 👍

tropic moon
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I am just waiting for improved adrenaline rush on certain russian tanks to improve their brawling capacity

cursive wigeon
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Give t22 dpm buff and abit more armor on rear, also speed buff

digital dust
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Cant tell if this is sarcastic or not

valid merlin
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most likely not

frozen ravine
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Give t22 a 120mm gun and hesh please. It’s been powercrept so much

valid merlin
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give maus a 152mm