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odd wolf
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time to get [] compensation for camos 😋

remote heath
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Hi

worn juniper
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This way, team 2 players will play 3 battles in another clan and will join back to the clan A and get tickets again. At this point I would suggest using those cups in storage which are just staying there and doing nothing. If a clan can create only 1 team and only if players who got most cups (top10) in clan will get tickets, then problem will be solved.

rocky crystal
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U couldve done it a better way to avoid getting banned ie Elev Winter

upper oar
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first/second/third league as well

latent olive
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The idea of restricting clans to 1 team or even fixing the roster has been considered in past seasons and the general feedback from the clans is that they dont like such things, it is too restrictive. The 3 qualifying PYS was introduced in an attempt to ensure that at least those going into the final stages after PYS had actually played in the qualifiers. I agree its not an ideal system, but selling spots is not strictly against the rules of the game. Yes legally you can manipulate the rules to an extent to catch such a thing, but then you need the evidence which unless someone who actually buys a place complains will never really happen.

Then you need to draw a distinction between selling spots and sponsorship. Some clans do in fact pay players, aka sponsorship. That is also akin to selling spots, albeit with cash going the other way, but it does impact upon recruitment as some clans cannot compete with that and thus can grant an advantage to the more cash fluid clan. In real terms both could be seen in the same light and as such to penalise those who pay a clan to play and not penalise clans to pay players is somewhat harsh me thinks. Personally I do not fully see the overall harm in people choosing to pay a clan for a spot, if the have the qualifying PYS. Yes there is an argument about the moral side or the fact such players may be taken advantage of, but overall it doesnt really have an impact on the tour, not really. Ok so some player may get a Pro avatar or such, but flexing with an award that is not truly deserved is just rather sad really.

vital obsidian
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Well said Fugit. And imo the 3 qualifier rule is pointless since its enough to put acco in any ghost team and get enough PYS. Only those who total afk and therefore miss out are suffering.

tame bone
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i like quick tournaments

cyan timber
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Well how can they proof people buy/sell spots, this all goes through discord and anyone can fake disord messages
It feels like I am reading the same dicussions every season

proud holly
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it ez a cycle

analog osprey
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No no non don’t buff these tanks but nerf the new op tanks

limber lintel
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the multiple teams per clan is at its core unfair if I'm being honest, nothing is stopping clans from handling it like -BPS- did with making another team in BPS, under a different tag. Just imagine if a certain football team could put 2 teams into the qualifiers and the best performing team will count to the decision which teams go to the final stages, to me it's ludicrous that this is even considered debatable, it's at its very core unfair.

proud holly
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Well what’s the difference between SPRTA and SPRTB

fallow turret
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Its the same thing lol with the rules that you dont have to play pys in the same clan as u play a finals in

limber lintel
rare trellis
limber lintel
novel bay
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?

scenic thorn
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Just read the room

rare trellis
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idk maybe the grammar was off or something bc i was completely under the impression you were against second teams in different clans

limber lintel
proud holly
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The example of BPS and -BPS- isn’t something that’s morally wrong tho imo. The points that either clans attain will only benefit their respective clans, instead of a singular entity. Plus if a single clan did run multiple teams, only the highest result would count anyways.

rare trellis
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even with same clans it’s just a pointless waste of time to run multiple teams. one team isn’t gonna get anything from it.

proud holly
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^ I doubt the non main team of a clan would play under that said clan if they’re actually good enough to operate under an individual clan tag.

fervent imp
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"Tomorrow or after tomorrow"
Thats what he said earlier...

ancient shard
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How hard is it to do something irl instead of sitting around all day waiting for ur rewards lmao like chill

fallow turret
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He needs his cyber spring to flex 😤

proud holly
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Pardon me but I don’t think 15th-16th qualifies for a cyber spring

nocturne tiger
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he needs that 10k free xp

zealous trellis
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What rewards are you getting?!

odd wolf
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💀

sinful crest
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When will there be monetary prizes? Gold is cool but I’d rather gamble on crates with money

scenic gyro
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There will most likely be monetary prizes after ukraine defends its sovereignty fully

covert flax
zealous trellis
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oh, I don’t pity your team then. I bet the rewards were well worth it for you guys to even think of doing such despicable actions.

proud holly
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my man's getting excited for 25% of the original prize fund

rare trellis
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cease moment

rose haven
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Cease moment

marsh robin
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Why did my game decided to sign me out during a battle. And now I can't sign into my account however I can sign into my friends account but he can't sign into mine and it was during the tourney too while I was tourney leader.

novel bay
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Shaking my head

ocean lagoon
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@muted ore i have a personal question towards pro rewards, the online support system didn't really do much for me, i cant dm you the specifics because your dms are closed but if you are willing to hear me out id be grateful

fallow turret
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Its impressive to cheat at a higher percentage than you win games

modest whale
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Ouch.

mossy rivet
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LOL

proud holly
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PFFT

upper oar
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i cant even delete that. his team just got violated

chilly hemlock
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@fresh berry submit the pictures to wg support online. Not here

outer isle
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🧐

gleaming schooner
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IMO there is a better way than allowing clans to create one team only.(As mentioned before, they could just play qualifiers in another clan). Better option in my opinion, would be doing something like in the Money Blaster tournament, that it's the same players playing all qualifiers and also the finals. This was a very good way of preventing selling spots, Idk why WG gave it up

gleaming schooner
latent olive
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There is absolutely nothing preventing a clan having multiple clans and there is literally no way such a thing can be stopped or even prevented. If a clan like BPS has multiple clans then fair enough they are not breaking the rules. At the end of the day if the tour community is so annoyed about this then why do the players go there? You cant have your cake and eat it I am afraid, in the vain hope that WG will magic some rule to prevent it whilst ensuring that no clan/player is penalised unjustly.

Putting in numerous teams is also perfectly fine, after all clans have spots for 50 players, not 10, and therefore it is perfectly acceptable for clans to field as many teams as they can muster. If 1 clan decides to put in 1 team and another clan puts in 2 then fair play to the clan that has 20 players who are active, skilled and willing enough to play in the tours. Every clan has this right, it is not open to the select few.

As for multiple clans under the same tag, like BPS, again there is nothing wrong with this I dont think. Again if a clan is successful enough to attract enough players to make such a thing happen then fair play to them. Yes we can bemoan that players are attracted to such clans due to the 'sponsorship' side and yes many clans are unable to compete at that kind of level, but the fact remains 'Professional' means 'someone engaged in a specific activity as paid occupation rather than a pastime'. On the one hand we all want the Pro Tour scene to grow and have lovely prize funds etc yet on the other we moan about clans like BPS paying players. Ngl as a member of a Tour clan its not easy to entice the top players across, wish it were, and yes trying to compete against paying clans feels unfair. That doesnt mean however that we wont continue to try and attract star players, just makes our job a lot harder.

leaden belfry
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I disagree on the multiple teams per clan part, tbh. While I understand that people want to fight for and under their own clan tag, the system is openly abused. That's partly because cups and tickets are handed to the clan as a whole, rather than specific players. The situation where one team fights the qualifiers and another team plays the top 8 because the first team doesn't meet the requirements as a Prof-team shouldn't be made possible imo.
To avoid that, it would mean that either there should be only one team per clan, or cups/tickets are given to the players that qualified only. And the rules from Prof should apply to qualifiers too, which would have avoided the specific example of this season.
There's no ideal solution, and most solutions can be abused in other ways and/or cause other issues and inconveniences in other ways, so I don't envy Wg needing to make the calls here

latent olive
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Restricting clans to fielding 1 single team is very unfair really. Clans will generally field a 'core' team and in lots of cases many players may not make the grade and will be become disenfranchised totally. Having the ability to put more than 1 team in is one way around this. I do agree with the cups side. In the 'Blaster' event teams went on their own merit, regardless of if they were 1st, 2nd or 3rd team. This was a good thing and it did prevent cups being 'shared'. Problem there was that the roster was fixed.

I am all for fixed rosters, ngl, but then the clans need to buy into that side and embrace it. Fixing rosters will eliminate a majority of the issues faced in CW and will actually make the rule violation checks a lot easier and no doubt quicker.

worn juniper
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How is there no rule for spot selling man ? @latent olive @gusty jacinth

leaden belfry
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thanks =)

leaden belfry
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and selling of spots should definitely be prohibited - but it's something that'd be very hard to prove happened. WG doesn't see discord as proof (and for very good reasons), and I doubt people are dumb enough to talk about it in game

orchid spear
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It’s not that it isn’t prohibited, it’s that there is no way for wargaming to regulate it. Discord doesn’t count as proof since it can easily be faked and no one would admit to it in game.

leaden belfry
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exactly that

latent olive
# worn juniper How is there no rule for spot selling man ? <@478810062777745432> <@472158005916...

As with all things legal the problem rests with the wording, in this case 'Commercial Fraud', which means that a party was duped, either negligently or dishonestly, into doing something that gained an advantage. If WG removed 'commercial fraud' and changed the wording to read 'Any act related to the sale of accounts etc...' that would eliminate the mischief and make the rule far easier to apply across the board

steel shell
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If tickets were handed only to top10 players with highest amount of cups from the clan, wouldn't everything get fixed? 🤔

latent olive
wicked breach
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Wg already out with rewards 😋

orchid spear
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YOOOO rewards out!!!
Thank you for being so fast this season wargaming, gotta be a record in speed

latent olive
# worn juniper How is there no rule for spot selling man ? <@478810062777745432> <@472158005916...

Alternatively, if WG really wants to keep the 'commercial fraud' wording, just rearrange the words. In law the preceding words take precedence, so i this case everything needs to be a 'commercial fraud'. Rearranging it so that is reads "Sale of places in HoF or rewards that Team, clan and players receive and any commercial fraud related to the sale of accounts, is prohibited". That would certainly work and remove the issue of the wording without actually removing WG's overall intentions

leaden belfry
fallow turret
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^^ theres no way to distinguish the two

latent olive
# leaden belfry there's an issue there though. In what way can you say the place was sold if the...

Yes that is a major issue because players are free to clan hop and the 'smoking gun' evidence that a spot was actually sold only exists in places like discord DM's or something similar, none of which can be used as definitive evidence. Not only that, in most cases the person paying gets what they paid for, namely a spot in the team and the rewards that come with it. Most are probably after the avatar & camo and thus they are not likely to fess up really because they achieved their aim. They will just argue that it was 'sponsorship' and that brings me back to what I said earlier about where do you draw the line between clans paying players & players paying clans?

leaden belfry
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yeah, it's iffy... 😬

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I don't mind teams getting sponsored, mind you - that's happened since the beginning of tours and if it wasn't an issue then it shouldn't be one now. But buying slots/prizes is different imo

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another thing that could potentially work upto a level is seeing qualifiers and prof as one tour. It'd mean being part of that specific clan and team for the duration of the tour season as a whole, but that would require a team to be set and players committing to it for quite a long period of time, which also isn't ideal

proud holly
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This was alot faster than anticipated. 🙏

fallow turret
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Aside from like it being kinda crappy whats the issue with selling spots though like the teams that sell spots arent ones that were gonna be competing at the highest level anyway and people get undeserved rewards but its the same as account sharing where it hurts nobody except those involved

calm atlas
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Thanks for rewqrds wg, Sirius u are my hero

muted ore
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@ocean lagoon Hi. Unfortunately, I can't help in any way with the blocking issue, only support can do that.

terse perch
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Thx for rewards wg

latent olive
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its not easy to combat. I personally have no issue with clans paying players, sponsorship is not a bad thing for the CW side tbh. Selling spots is different to an extent, but does fall under the same premise. As I said previously, players rolling out sporting avatars & camos they dont really deserve is rather sad and whilst the general player base doesnt have a clue, the CW base knows they dont warrant it and will not respect them.

The only real way to prevent such things is to fix the team rosters at the start of the season. That creates its own issues, what with people having to commit far in advance and things may come about that will prevent them from paying, thus leaving the team in the lurch potentially. Yes there are 10 spots so in theory that shouldnt be an issue, but it can be. Maybe increase the spots to 12, thus giving a blanket of 5 to fix the roster and then the clan has to pick the team of 10 from that fixed roster. That would in effect allow some freedom of movement for the clan and also prevent the spot selling because the roster is fixed.

vital obsidian
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Fixed team of 10 through whole tourney including PYS is best option. To increase roster to 12 or more would only put out more spots for sale. On other hand its hypocratic to blame spot byers, is there really any difference to spot sponsors who dont play any important game

latent olive
# vital obsidian Fixed team of 10 through whole tourney including PYS is best option. To increase...

And that is the thing, when you break it all down they both relate to the same in real terms. It may not seem that way, but it does. A player paying to be in the top tour is no different to a clan paying a top player to be in their team, not really. If 1 is bad, so is the other really. Its a circular argument. Both could be argued as a form of 'sponsorship', regardless which way the money actually goes.

vital obsidian
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Since it is almost impossible in the current situation to attract commercial sponsors; why not make it possible to sell ”spectator/sponsor spots” as a way to get some extra to the team

latent olive
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Not a bad idea really

fallow turret
steel shell
latent olive
# steel shell I see not having fixed roster for pro league tournaments as a mistake

Never said it was a mistake. Thing is some clearly are upset over spot selling & the only real way to combat that is to fix the team, simple. If that is not an option then spot selling will continue, regardless. Having it that the top 10 players from the clan get the tickets could deprive a clan of tickets to actually take part despite having made it there, because players do move around even between top 8 clans between PYS & Pro tour

@spiral flower & what is your point about that?

spiral flower
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guys in this chat there are russians

formal drift
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Selling places was always going to happen without a real prize in playing the season for top seeds, wg didn't take measures before the tourney and so it happens

leaden belfry
gleaming schooner
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GJ by WG to deliver the rewards so quickly

spiral flower
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but i wont to find rushen or ukrainifn peple for tournaments

steel shell
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just shut up

latent olive
leaden belfry
outer isle
blissful slate
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👀

odd wolf
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😋 although thanks WG for 4 day waiting period very cool

rose haven
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thanks for getting rewards out so fast wg 🤝

mellow belfry
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Ty wg

sinful crest
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@opaque heart since when were collector vehicles compensated as credits ???

modest whale
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😂

fathom tiger
sinful crest
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Bruh

solid pine
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Disney World > 1st place 🥇

sinful crest
grave raven
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why NA players spam so much ?

upper oar
sinful crest
chilly hemlock
modern crystal
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Can russian gamer play in EU team and if he can, which restrictions it includes?

sinful crest
proud holly
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saying bad words :0

inner socket
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@muted ore @opaque heart I would really like to ask you if what has been done seems right: to put as a prize for the top 3 in the challenger a tank that in the same days was put in a free to play event = result clearing of 1 m of credits and therefore who did top3 wins 1m of credits and whoever made top4 3500 gold. I could have understood if I had already had the tanks and therefore patience, but that this is created because you have done at the same time an event with the same tank is really unfair and ridiculous, as well as disrespectful for the players. you should have thought about it first and put in a different tank. I really hope you can at least think about giving some sort of compensation for you created this situation.

thorn shale
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XD op

thorn shale
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Nice

solemn nexus
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when am i getting my blitz cup package 😢

tardy bay
subtle hornet
fickle thicket
magic kraken
outer isle
smoky needle
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@opaque heart please accept friend request to discuss something privat

fickle thicket
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@opaque heart although we've seen 9.1 will bring a massive rebalance,rework and change of most t10s, will we see any changes in the tournament scene during 9.1? (Other than the ones provoked by these changes i mean)

fickle thicket
# opaque heart What do you mean, for example?

Changes on maps used during tournaments to better fit the changes seen in high tiers, including some old ones that were removed to be reworked and removing some that are currently used.
An increase in regular rewards for participation/winning for non-competitive tournaments(quick tourneys)?

Which has been asked for before but I don't think there has been such a change as of yet, those are the 2 things that came to mind
Edit: yes I'm sure it might take a while to reintroduce some maps that are still being worked on but I'm sure they will eventually come into the game

surreal hinge
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I'd say it's a little too early to speculate what they may change for Summer Season

tardy bay
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Be patience.

solemn nexus
ebon goblet
outer isle
untold tinsel
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@sinful crest don’t pretend like you didn’t cuss at disney

sinful crest
untold tinsel
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ayo??

languid spruce
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Hi What's news for Upcoming tour Is there something interesting?

torpid anchor
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Oh, my post got deleted.. sry if it was inappropriate 😅

tame bone
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Are you surprised?

torpid anchor
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I'm not even sure if it was against the rules, their were no names in it, it was a post on discord about someone advertising a place for top 8 in professional tours for 100$

Stuff like this should be actually banned, because it just makes money overcome skill

scenic thorn
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And what can wg do about your screenshot?

minor girder
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XD

chilly hemlock
torpid anchor
# chilly hemlock Perhaps they saw it as advertising

I didn't mean to advertise xdd, should've wrote that when I posted it

Maybe

@scenic thorn I don't remember asking wg to do something about the screenshot 🤔

And consider "stuff like this should be actually banned" an opinion

chilly hemlock
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I’m not saying you did, I just point out it could have been seen that way

outer isle
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In future I want be an agent selling spots in top8 👍🏻

torpid anchor
outer isle
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Good. I guess we can open a company aswell 👍🏻

worn juniper
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@opaque heart as you see, spot selling will be here again this season. If you will make fixed teams and make rule violation checks before top8 / 16 tournaments, everything will be fine i guess. But when you see there is a rule violation, will be better if you will delete cups instead of deleting 25% or 75% of credits etc. So that teams can’t participate to top8 tournament.

sinful crest
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I don’t understand your question or statement tbh, there’s literally nothing wargaming can do about forfeiting or selling spots for money lol. There’s been a numerous amount of times where teams literally throw, discord screenshots and everything but wargaming doesn’t or can’t do anything about it. Your worry is a lost cause buddy

proud holly
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Paying to be on a team is potentially a detriment to that team anyways.

worn juniper
stark ingot
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When will summer season start? Please tag me when someone will answer

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Ye but when, okey thx @chilly hemlock, i answerd like this bcz there is a timer

chilly hemlock
sinful crest
outer isle
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i'm happy about this so i can finally work from home and get some free moneys. easy clap

drifting spade
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@opaque heart hello, is the next season will be in money blaster style or same as in spring season ?

lapis narwhal
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It will be a completely new style!

fallow turret
scenic thorn
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What about tier 6? 🤯

grave raven
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or some odd tiers for a change like 1,3,5,7 (9 is basically 10 )

outer isle
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Huh

nocturne tiger
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🧠

thorn shale
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I'm curious what the format will be like, as usual or moneyblaster

rose haven
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I agree tier 1 tournaments when

opaque heart
outer isle
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👍🏻

outer isle
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@thorn shale can I join?

thorn shale
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Of course apply

echo isle
inner socket
sinful crest
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Nothing can be done my friend I work for wargaming

thorn shale
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he actually does ^

outer isle
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😵‍💫

pliant peak
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👀

upper oar
brazen plover
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Dear game makers; You may be thinking why this man is constantly criticizing, but I love this game and you people who work hard. Just why not better 🙂
It is very difficult to find a tournament team, and it is even more difficult to keep them all ready until the end of the tournament. For the first time in a long time, when we found the full team, the system's inability to find opponents at very long intervals, and the fact that they waited for a very long time since the beginning of the tournament, especially in the final, unfortunately caused my players to lose. It's a quick tournament after all, so the breaks shouldn't be that long. If there is no opponent, our next round or championship should be awarded immediately. Now I don't want to use other levels and my rights just for this reason. thanks @twin pelican

upper oar
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that kind of thing is just impossible to prevent unless people are stupid enough to do it in-game. if people want to use Discord or Gmail or iMessage or whatever they choose to message each other about stuff, that apparently can’t be used as proof

upper oar
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thats in Turkish bro

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not 8 days

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seconds=saniye

upper oar
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to be honest, the quick tournament name actually refers to how quick it is to register and start participating, not always and necessarily how fast you’ll be matched up with another team

thorn shale
brazen plover
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Then why is our final opponent competing against us by skipping 3 laps at once? You are already doing this. Also, I know very well what is called a fast and flexible tournament, I have been organizing tournaments for at least five years with Challonge and Braced Cloud software. The 8 minutes you see in the picture is not our total waiting time, we waited for almost half an hour, there was also a constant rewind. If you answered as a game maker, you are giving a very wrong answer, if you are not authorized, let real authorities answer these questions and questions.

vital obsidian
tired sapphire
# brazen plover Then why is our final opponent competing against us by skipping 3 laps at once? ...

Reaching level 3 match without actually facing anyone is not same with what u suggest. If you think about the whole process you can understand why. Just think about total amount of competitors (as different scenarios). Lets say there are seven teams at the beginning, and later one more entered. What should they do? You suggest them to give everything to three teams, but the current model will still pick of them. The current model can be still considered as fast (since it is still faster than "other" tournaments). They cannot set teams via using bots to reduce waiting durations. You can either call more people to play in these tournaments or try different (higher) tiers maybe.

grave raven
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i wonder if your team won instead will you complain again mr.etkin ?

rocky crystal
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lol, thats all he does, complains

brazen plover
grave raven
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u said waiting caused your players to lose so im just curious thats all 🙂 you can wait for officials but not sure what you expect them to do ? if they are no available teams you wait its simple 🙂

scenic thorn
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He left

grave raven
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he will come again in a week 🙂

gray pond
frosty ore
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Just a quick question: Does anybody knows some guide or YTchannel for Tier6 tournaments? What i did find material it’s either super low footage quality or it’s min4 years old…

rocky crystal
solemn nexus
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Hoooog ridaaaaa

true knot
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Anyone wanna get into a 7v7 tournament tonight? I can do any tier

summer ibex
lapis narwhal
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Fugit555 is typing...

latent olive
novel yoke
blissful slate
winter swallow
prisma gust
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What are the meta tanks for a t10 tournament? Is there a list or something like that?

drifting spade
winter swallow
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^ this is probably not correct

prisma gust
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Manager#3072 | 24/5/22, 12:05:27

Yeah, FV4202, Leopard 1 and E5 I need a list, because I haven't all 3 tanks, u said

gray pond
hardy robin
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prioritise 60tp and is7

winter swallow
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^ this likely correct.

merry blade
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Concept 1b is my favorite world of tanks blitz tournament vehicle, if only I had money during Christmas last year to enjoy it

full kernel
fallow turret
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57 is a bit of a stretch but 50b def

latent olive
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Presently all you need is 60tp, T100 and IS7 - thats it really for the current meta lol

proud holly
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  • Yohs/Concept/Vks
untold tinsel
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no, all you need in tournaments is the t110e4 american tank destroyer as the name correlates to its abilities in the battle

spark pumice
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along with a purchase of the battlestar camo you can be the real star of any competitive match

lime loom
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🤡

rocky crystal
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Buying the legendary camo on the IS-4 automatically gives you skill

fickle thicket
upper oar
dusk lantern
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Hello guys

grave raven
rocky crystal
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🤣

rare trellis
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Hi all

opaque heart
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Hello, players! How do you think 👇🏼

The best choice for the Grand Final is 1️⃣ bo9 or 2️⃣ bo11?

calm atlas
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Holy moly bo11 🥶

upper oar
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bo9’s adequate imo, but has there ever been any consideration for the team in the lower bracket of the Grand Final to defeat the upper bracket team by a higher amount than just 1 match to compensate for the upper team losing their double elimination status once they enter into the Grand Finals?

modest whale
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Bo11 💪

steel shell
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If teams in grand finals were able to pick/ ban maps for bo11 it would be possible but letting wg choose maps for bo11 could be deadly 💀💀

summer ibex
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While we are on the topic of possible changes to the competitive scene, I’d like to bring up an idea for a change in how the seeding works.

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First I’d like to address the problem I see, which is that people who don’t create re-roll accounts are at an inherent disadvantage when it comes to the current seeding system. Anyone’s account that includes the “learning phase” of their blitz experience is going to have significantly lower career stats— and therefore lower seeding— compared to how they are able to perform at the current time, due to all that they have learned up to that point.

Rather than taking into consideration the career Tier 10 stats of an account when weighing it for seeding, I propose that there be a required amount of qualifying games to each season.

Each player that plans to play the season must complete, at some point during the qualification time, “x” number of tier 10 games. (Say, for example, players were required to play 100 tier 10 games during the month of May in order to qualify for competitive tournaments in June.)

These “qualifying games” could be normal public games, with the player being able to decide if and when they want their qualifying games to start, similar to how some events have worked in the past where the player decides when the evaluation period starts. It could even become a toggle-able button in the public match menu, where a player can turn on and off when they want to be evaluated, like when they turn on and off encounter or supremacy game modes. This would allow the player to still play casually whenever they want but still have a basis for seeding evaluation through the winrate of their [100] (arbitrary) qualifying games. It would also not affect players who have no interest in tournaments because they could leave the “evaluation” option toggled off.

Then, when the season rolls around, those who have completed the [100] (arbitrary) evaluation games get seeded based on their winrate during those games, and those who didn’t complete [100] (arbitrary) evaluation games could be allowed to participate but at some sort of seeding penalty.

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Here are some reasons why this change could be beneficial:

  1. Every account would have equal opportunity to achieve good seeding, because poor early career stats wouldn’t weigh down on the seeding (as they currently do).

  2. Having an evaluation phase would encourage active gameplay since players would be unable to float their entire career’s seeding on what is effectively one evaluation right now (after getting good stats, players no longer have to play the game to have good seeding. Thus, if a bad player buys a good account in the current seeding state, they can keep that good seeding despite being a bad player. If every season required an evaluation phase, bad players who buy good accounts would no longer be able to benefit, since they would have to play.

  3. Taking into consideration reason 1, listed above, this could help negate some of the account selling that everyone knows takes place. There would be no reason to buy an account that has high tier 10 career winrate if the measurement of the qualifying [100] (arbitrary) games would be required on all accounts to be eligible to play without a seeding penalty. It would also be implausible for someone to farm stats on accounts they intend to sell as well as their own account if they were planning to play {due to the time required to play [100] (arbitrary) games}, which further limits the possibilities of account-selling networks for the purposes of gaining a competitive advantage (although it would not completely eliminate it).

  4. This solves the issue of unweighted winrates that has been seen in previous seasons, because the evaluation period would be the same weight for every player, as opposed to how it currently is, where high winrate over a short period is rewarded, yet slightly lower winrate over a much longer period has the same weight, e.g. 70% over 1000 games is more valuable for seeding than 65% over 20,000 games, despite the 65% over 20,000 games being much more difficult and impressive to achieve.

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A possible penalty for not completing [100] (arbitrary) games would be to assume every unplayed evaluation game will be a loss. So if a player has won 20 of 40 games, and the evaluation was out of 100 games, the player would have a 20/100= 20% seeding winrate. A player who has won 70/90 games would receive a 70/100= 70% seeding winrate. In the case a player has played no tier 10 evaluation games but still wants to play, the would be seeded with a 0/100=0% seeding winrate.

hollow bolt
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Deciding tournament seeding off random games is a pretty non-functioning idea to start with, they are just too different to get any good meaning between them

vital obsidian
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Maybe there is commercial interest in buffing rerolls

summer ibex
lapis narwhal
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Alot of writing

thorn shale
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A lot of writing no ones gonna read

nocturne tiger
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where tldr

rugged grove
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tldr he’s saying wg should make us play “qualifying games” every season and take that wr for seeding instead of our career tier 10 winrate…

latent olive
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The seeding was in fact changed in order to combat re-rolls & 100% WR accounts. Yes there is an argument that someone with a career wr of 55% after 100k battles could be disadvantaged against someone with 6k battles & 70% wr. Thing is making it a random 100 games doesnt actually help, because players will just spam tanks like the 50B or something. Not only that, but some servers still have the newbie MM, so again rolling out with less than say 3k battles will put a re-roll up against new players and their wr will still look awesome in any event.

Personally I dont think it would work, plus the top teams teams know who the 'best players' are and regardless of career stats they will still grab them.

To obtain a truly unbais WR seeding a move towards clan seeding based on clan performance would be best. That however also carries with it massive problems, especially with new clans. Not saying the system currently is the best, but it is certainly better than what we had previously

upper oar
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rolling 1000 battle WR at tier 10 could be decent

summer ibex
# latent olive The seeding was in fact changed in order to combat re-rolls & 100% WR accounts. ...

I didn’t think “newbie MM” applied to tier 10 at all. Is that not true? If it really isn’t true, then that’s an even bigger problem that helps re-rolls. There should not be newbie matchmaking at tier 10.

Why would there be an issue if someone played one specific tank? I think that it’s the same way right now. Someone could play 1000 games in 50B or whatever they want, but the difference is that with the current plan, once they get that 75% or whatever, they just get to keep it forever.

Eventually, if the competitive scene were to grow enough on small servers (so maybe this would work on the EU and/or CIS servers), there could be a separate gamemode where players only face other players who are also completing their qualifying games. That would be a very cool demonstration of actual skill because the best players would keep their usual high winrates but some of the players who have high winrates now would lose to those best players. I think there would be greater stratification in seeding if it was done like this. But obviously this wouldn’t work on low-participation servers like NA or APAC just yet.

cyan timber
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objection your honour

summer ibex
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The basis of your objection? 😂

rocky crystal
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Why cant we just use like last 100 game wr. Theres alr a system where u can check ur own last100 game on blitz website. They can easily Change it and filter tier 10 only.

tame bone
summer ibex
# rocky crystal Why cant we just use like last 100 game wr. Theres alr a system where u can chec...

Upon reconsideration when you and I last discussed this, it would actually probably lead to a lot more sold accounts if it was done this way. Imagine the best player on each team plays the last 100 games on each of the team’s accounts before the season starts. That wouldn’t be good. 😂 I think it has to be a little more restricting. Otherwise there’s definitely people who would abuse the system to gain a competitive advantage. And the solution to this problem is to have the set of games be during a specific time frame, at least I think. The potential for sold accounts would decrease.

civic glacier
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Jesus people still complaining about seeding 🤦‍♂️

fallow turret
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Just win ur games

serene crystal
nocturne tiger
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yeah just ask anyone from purpl

sinful crest
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I got a proposition, win your games and stop crying

civic glacier
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📠

summer ibex
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No tears are being shed. A civil conversation is being had.

royal osprey
thorn shale
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LOL

novel bay
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💀

harsh quail
proud holly
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His team barely got into challengers*

sinful crest
royal osprey
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The bought account strategy still outperformed 20 other teams 😎 (it’s about efficiency)

dusk lantern
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😤

nocturne tiger
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very efficient

royal osprey
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Well you see, we had to lower everyone else’s expectations before we dropped the fat bomb on the last qualifier to solidify challengers.

sinful crest
dusk lantern
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🤯

nocturne tiger
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@harsh quail where is your challengers avatar, kid.

rocky crystal
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🦍

fallow turret
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They beat 2 teams in qualifiers as opposed to the 1 they normally were

thorn shale
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🗿

royal osprey
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I mean we took a game off pramo. That was more than PURPL could do and they were top 8. I don’t see your point. We were dropping all sorts of bombs (metaphorically).

harsh quail
fallow turret
summer ibex
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Nox is OP tho 🗿

nocturne tiger
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🗿 🗿 🗿

thorn shale
royal osprey
rocky crystal
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🤣🥴

sinful crest
fallow turret
royal osprey
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Don’t worry, all the promises of CEASE top 8 will come to fruition in summer. Droodles is back with mad passion. We will not fail.

nocturne tiger
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😐

thorn shale
novel yoke
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seeding would not have changed top 8

royal osprey
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Honestly METRO should’ve been top 8 over PURPL. They’d at least pull games. With the changes coming to 50B, those aggro strats will be even better.

nocturne tiger
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😐

thorn shale
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🗿

novel yoke
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not regi? they did win challengers after all. if anything thats the team that was closest to top 8

sinful crest
lapis narwhal
royal osprey
fallow turret
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Yeah i enjoyed when metro drove all their lights through the long open field spotted the mark of a top 8 team

lapis narwhal
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I find it very efficient!

latent olive
# summer ibex I didn’t think “newbie MM” applied to tier 10 at all. Is that not true? If it re...

Firstly what you are suggesting is to introduce something into the game that only really applies to the top 5% overall. Secondly newbie MM is based on amount of battles, not tier. Not that newbie MM actually works, because it also works on the queue system in any event. Thirdly, it wont stop re-rolls.

Personally I dont understand what the huge problem is with re-rolls. Yes 100% wr accounts was an issue, so the seeding in that respect was changed in order to ensure that such acc's dont give such an advantage. If a player decides to re-roll and after their 1000 battles, which is now the cut off for the seeding, they have 80% wr then fair play to them. Then you have the 'selling' of spots'. Changing the seeding wont alter that 1 little bit. Those clans that sell spots will still sell them, you think they care about seeding? And what effect does seeding have on top 8, which is where spots are sold, well I can tell no impact at all.

Im not saying the system is perfect, because no system is, but at the end of the day the top 8's across all servers were not unexpected and certainly no team got to top 8 based on seeding bias or whatever you want to call it, well not imho.

lapis narwhal
summer ibex
gilded marsh
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i never knew whales had legs!!

rocky crystal
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mods!

silk thistle
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I can't wait for my favorite streamer Dunk244's Summer predictions!!!

rare trellis
thorn shale
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no predictions sorry @silk thistle

silk thistle
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:<

rose haven
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cease top 8 xd

fickle thicket
thorn shale
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huh i don’t play comp anymore @fickle thicket

modest whale
iron viper
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Anyone want to join a tournament

split heath
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Me

rose haven
lapis narwhal
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I’m still waiting on him to repost the challenger moments video 😢

fluid pilot
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I like dunk244s streams

thorn shale
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merry blade
rare trellis
modest whale
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I heard the team captain plays clash of clans in the middle of tournaments

rare trellis
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i heard the team captain blocked his players on the discord app for saying “hey daddy” in his dms

rocky crystal
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@harsh quail @silver beacon @sinful crest @rocky crystal @summer ibex @novel yoke @proud holly @rare trellis, apologies to everyone, this isn’t my account. Someone is trying to impersonate me and if this account said anything offensive, I apologize

silk thistle
fluid pilot
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^

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❤️‍🔥 if anyone tries to impersonate me just remember my # at the end of my username is #5952

silk thistle
south fern
hushed dune
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❤️‍🔥

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i’ll be honest it was me

outer isle
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Predictable

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fluid pilot
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???????

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🤦‍♂️

radiant mango
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blitz official moment

surreal hinge
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I believe he said a bad word.

fluid pilot
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10/10 moderation

grave raven
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Maybe if you report whoever is responsible instead of spamming like monkeys moderators can ban correct one.

rare trellis
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OverWeightToxicRatWaste#8125. This is the fake one. The real one didn’t do anything wrong

red fern
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Cringe

thorn shale
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Sheeeeesh Derpy is on the frontlines rn

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fluid pilot
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Wow

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Thx

tender shell
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Further spamming random emojis will get you muted from now on. Decide for yourself.

zealous trellis
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Guys the mean person is gone.

thorn shale
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Juanito saved the day its alright

rare trellis
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Can we just get the Juanito guy a mod role already? He’s a hero.

tardy bay
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I like moderator

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modest whale
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wow everyone is getting muted 😢

grand pumice
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Facts keep down they're gonna getcha

worn marten
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Is Mod here? If not, I can type here finally

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agile chasm
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why this lose?

thorn salmon
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dmg

agile chasm
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bruh

hushed dune
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Question, when it comes to seeding are only the highest 7 players (by tier 10 wr) counted?

modest whale
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I believe so

lapis narwhal
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its obv the bottom 7 wr

hushed dune
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Ty

solemn nexus
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Can i get my blitz cup package

modest whale
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Sorry no.

proud holly
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I wonder what he’s planning

outer isle
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@worn juniper emulator

worn juniper
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Yes always

calm atlas
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I can resell my blitz cup package, dm me

unkempt quartz
calm atlas
warped patrol
calm atlas
covert flax
nocturne tiger
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guys

thorn shale
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I’ve just been informed that REGI rigged.

proud holly
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_M1sCl1cked strikes again

dusk lantern
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I have had much information from a certain player that regi uses reroll accounts and rigs because they have premiums. This news devastates me as I was the number 1 fan of Regicide and as it turns out even my friend @rose haven was a part of the rigging. Pease look into this issue since they have been uncovered to rigg thanks

rose haven
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Sorry we had 2 rerolls that didn’t even contribute to the overall win rate. That means we rigged 😡😡😡

dusk lantern
regal frost
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Waiting for you guys:) Eu, tier 10 quick tournament

worn juniper
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Will we get banned if we will win against you ?

regal frost
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ahaha, yes of course )

worn juniper
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😄

scenic thorn
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WG preparing for summer season 😎

covert flax
regal frost
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We are little bit toxic for live stream :)))

slim blade
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gonna break out the speedhacks

fickle thicket
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Dayum, still waiting for the day we find devs on NA tourneys lol

regal frost
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We will come 🙂 we should only find a perfect date and time with you:) And I think we will make announcement here like for a community event 🍋

fluid pilot
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That'd be really cool

spark pumice
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something like that would be awesome

untold tinsel
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wg ain’t ready for the fearsome NA clans such as mex-1

surreal hinge
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They better watch out for MYSTC

merry blade
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For some reason NA sleeps on XWING and DLA, I see them as upcoming talent ready to sweep the North American scene.

thorn shale
rare trellis
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Hello all.

proud holly
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We go jim

bleak wind
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JIM

boreal dew
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i think DLA will 9-0 pramo

primal talon
low flame
fickle thicket
low flame
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hmmm

sterile gyro
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when is next tournament season?

bleak wind
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Tomorrow

sterile gyro
bleak wind
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I secretly work for wg

sterile gyro
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K

summer ibex
rocky crystal
sterile gyro
solemn nexus
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I cant breathe

sterile gyro
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K

languid spruce
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So June has come What's news for upcoming tour

coarse cipher
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why are no future tournaments showing up in the game? I see ones from 5/30 but those never showed up in future one to join. anybody else?

summer ibex
summer ibex
outer isle
languid spruce
outer isle
summer ibex
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Those are the reactions that will replace the military honor system in the upcoming update. The duck is sociable player, fist is team player, bicep is effective player, the punctuation spam is like you’re mad at them I think, 4-leaf clover is obviously lucky player, fists bumping is worthy opponent.

frail rampart
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Write this the next time you cry looking for gaming activities.
If you don't want to participate, no one cares.

celest pendant
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bro, I'm really glad that there are gaming activities besides the official ones. Keep your opinion to yourselfyourself

proud holly
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very fierce

simple portal
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should we just dm you?

proud holly
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How is that a tournament tho

simple portal
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just a friendly comp i presume. still a tournament, just not a very competitive one

proud holly
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Competition =/= Tournament

onyx merlin
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Does anyone knows 9.1 is before summer or after summer? Since wg says 9.1 will be rebalance all tier10 and meta will be totally different.

earnest lark
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Yeah, nice question

pallid raven
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any new bundles for coins coming soon?

limber lintel
# onyx merlin Does anyone knows 9.1 is before summer or after summer? Since wg says 9.1 will b...

will probably be before, videos about the next patch are usually released just a handful of weeks in advance, expecting the update to hit in like 2 weeks or something, ah wait 9.1? nah prob mid or after end of season, tho I'd hope it's after the season, there's been quite a few occasions where new balance changes that shifted meta were released between qualifiers and the final tournaments

onyx merlin
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Next week will come out 9.0 with type71. So 9.1 will be like middle of July. Just middle of summer season. btw pys tour and professional tour.

slim blade
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considering we're expecting 9.0 currently at the start of june, and updates are currently 1 month apart, and summer season begins late june, we should probably get 9.1 mid july

outer isle
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@worn juniper July

modest whale
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It'll probably drop mid season like 60tp blitz_duck

languid grove
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I'm enjoying the Gaming event so far I do wish battle passes were a little cheaper like 1.99$

upper oar
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summer season probably won't start until July

hexed vortex
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What is, or where do i find the June schedule for all tournaments?

proud holly
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It's prob just going to be "off-season" tournaments, i don't think they released anything official yet

modest whale
solemn nexus
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chat this guys goofy 🤣

modest whale
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this synergy guy is a furry btw

upper oar
civic glacier
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4x in what lol

versed field
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Rip ribble

languid spruce
devout shale
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realistic tour

cobalt kettle
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Replace 3v3s with 7v7s. 1 a week isn’t enough

outer isle
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@scenic thorn I saw that

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I saw the emulator in the steam. Just to warn you: that's not fair for other cw players 👍🏻

sterile gyro
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k

covert hamlet
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yes

fallow turret
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Its nothing new

winter swallow
cobalt kettle
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Tru, but scrims don’t give you creds

winter swallow
lapis narwhal
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rolling get 7 ppl to scrim us???

winter swallow
lapis narwhal
# winter swallow No

Oh 😦

will u be streaming summer szn??? Na streamers seem to have been declining in size 😦

winter swallow
barren imp
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fishy is having PC issues

shrewd oar
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We are using T6 for the 7vs7 Tournament, Im looking for players, 300 Battles, 40 battle rating, Must have a T6, ARL or KV-1s is Preferred (Friend Hitman_753 and say you want to join the Team

thorn shale
rose haven
outer isle
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@scenic thorn u r not aloneblitz_duck blitz_duck

scenic thorn
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You'll never walk alone bro

barren imp
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i will stream summer if offered

fast echo
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Eshkere

upper oar
tardy bay
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I used to play very tournament

solemn nexus
boreal dew
true knot
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Anyone wanna play tier X 3v3 tonight?

valid adder
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Heyo. I read the post of upcoming tournaments and I just wanted to get confirmed that there will be no Season, or other tournament like money blaster this summer, or will some news about that follow soon?

rare trellis
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they don’t announce seasons until like a few days before it’s going to start. more info on a summer season will come near the end of June most likely

valid adder
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Ah ok thx m8

cyan timber
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Hello @opaque heart can u confirm that there is no summer season?

opaque heart
cyan timber
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Thanks for the quick reply

paper maple
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I guess the Majority isn’t the Majority then :>

boreal dew
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still healing from summer 2021

rapid shard
hollow karma
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interesting

sterile gyro
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when are tournaments starting?

fast echo
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@opaque heart tolyanich how many legionary can be in the team

vital obsidian
fast echo
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Yes…

calm atlas
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Just use quali tournaments as trainings🤯

outer isle
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He means players from other servers. It's like mercenaries blitz_duck

inner socket
steel shell
thorn shale
covert flax
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How is tournaments going? I haven’t played in a while. I need all the details.

thorn shale
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when is summer season?

glass thunder
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@marble oyster

thorn shale
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i want pro camouflage. cyber camo. @hallow raptor i suck at new aiming. but i want tournament 🥲 summer season tournament has camo reward?

thorn shale
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:/

boreal dew
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bob

fast echo
upper oar
fast echo
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Ty

vital obsidian
fast echo
upper oar
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this is not the RU server anyways

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everyone communicates in English here

fast echo
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I guess I don’t care

thorn shale
fast echo
# thorn shale Well you should, just fyi

I will definitely listen to the words of the green-stat expert. if Tolyan was on the blitz cup server, I would definitely write to him there, but, fortunately, the moderators on the ru-server are not people 😦

feral shadow
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anynone wanna play the V-VI tournament with me

thorn shale
rare trellis
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Mini mod in the chat

upper oar
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eventually you may

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bottom line is that while WG employees here may be from Russian speaking countries and speak Russian, everyone still must speak English here. thats the whole point of this server

broken obsidian
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got question in tourny shows team it never stated got notification on garage screen in et time zone that whuy ?

broken obsidian
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got last minute room N A server U S A Tankers

vital wigeon
opaque heart
thorn shale
lapis narwhal
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Bruh, how many ppl gonna ask until we realize they gonna release the information at the end of the month like they said they would…

solemn nexus
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when am i getting my blitz cup package? 😢

broken obsidian
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though i seen there wa s a monday 14 th 7vs 7 tourny was on sunday night tried get in 2vs 2 tourny when i thought i saw it or maby to many cold ones lol

long stirrup
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I'm looking to do a level 8 tournament

thorn shale
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How i can enter in team of tournament?

thorn shale
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I need invitation?

minor sierra
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Tier 8 team needs few more ppl to join. Team name is 7 newbs

thorn shale
upper oar
thorn shale
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I wish WG could give some info about the new season ...

opaque heart
hasty dagger
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I want 7vs7 tournaments, these 2vs2 and 3vs3 are trash. Is it so WG that you didn’t listen the comments of seeding and lower brackets? Now the low wr teams which lost always 1st round, are away from tournaments and WG had to make smaller tournaments.

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agile atlas
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Oh god, things happened here
That's a x19 combo

hollow fiber
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That probably is not the smartest thing post in this channel 😉

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But I understand the expression.

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hollow fiber
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A friendly reminder to keep this channel on topic.
You have the presence of staff and other motivated players here, so keep the channel free of random chatter, images, stat flexing, insults, personal attacks, emoji spam, etc.
If there is limited news, or there is still time until the next tournament; that doesn't entitle you or anybody to turn this channel into the equivalent of some anything goes general chat.
Keep it ON TOPIC.
Keep it classy and make this channel enjoyable for all.

silk thistle
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wao

wicked breach
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You said personal attacks twice lol, must be very important

thorn shale
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Thank you @hollow fiber for all your hard work for keeping this channel on topic and clean. bro

hollow fiber
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Thank you.
Somebody kept arguing about his 3day mute in the background ... 😉

solemn nexus
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When am i getting my blitz cup package?

spark marsh
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this is still wrong. It shows gold instead of coin

lapis narwhal
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I can’t wait till summer season 2022 starts!!! It’ll be so much fun!!!

rose haven
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thank you moderators for keeping those hooligans in check power

rare trellis
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Hey don’t attack my boy Juanito. He is a real one ☝️

rose haven
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But people would not know it, because of all the bored posting, etc etc etc

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A friendly reminder to keep this channel on topic.
You have the presence of staff and other motivated players here, so keep the channel free of random chatter, images, stat flexing, insults, personal attacks, emoji spam, etc.
If there is limited news, or there is still time until the next tournament; that doesn't entitle you or anybody to turn this channel into the equivalent of some anything goes general chat.
Keep it ON TOPIC.
Keep it classy and make this channel enjoyable for all.

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Tournaments are fun.

tired portal
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Is it that hard to say if there will or won’t be a summer season? Or maybe there will be Money Blaster? Or maybe nothing at all and just Coins Tours, many teams are wasting their time with trainings (cringe) and you can’t even answer to your community and only thing which you mods are able to do is to mute.

rare trellis
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Why are u guys liked this every season. WG has always released info a week or so before the season starts. Be patient

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Are you familiar with a certain platter rules

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Imagine training on patch which wont be played in summer season (assuming there will be one)

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I think Wargaming may release the tier 10 rebalancing update 9.1 right before Blitz Cup. That would suck a lot. I wonder if the IS7 is still meta after the release of the Type. Hmmmm.

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red fern
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I see. I still prefer tp and is7 over kran and e5 camping but thats my own opinion

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I prefer getting ammoracked in my 60tp and alfar bouncing my 50b (he is nob)

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wicked breach
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Interesting opinion blitz_duck

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lol. Wait till an NA or Asia comp team reach the Twister Cup Finals of 2023 or 2024. 😄 I wonder if the FV215B will become meta again after update 9.1. Hmmmm.

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Depends, bps did start pretty early iirc

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And playing lt doesnt make u better anyway so who cares if someone started 1st or 2nd or smth else. Its impossible to compare the lvl of every serv now so no need to argue abt that yet -_-

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I wonder if there would ever be Uprising, Big Boss, and/or Gravity tournaments? Would it be an interesting idea?

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Interesting links

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Can you click on it to make sure its not a scam

fickle thicket
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Amogus links above

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harsh quail
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@novel bay hi

cunning token
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@novel bay

gilded marsh
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stop pinging a muted person they cant respond

tender jetty
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Ищу команду на сегодняшний турнир, 10 уровень)

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tender jetty
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@steel shell ok

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@cedar parrot

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Well WG has been informed of the issue. We will let you know if there is an update

lyric hollow
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yeah

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2v3 game from my friend

rare hearth
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what? 2v2 tourney and this happens

cedar parrot
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WG has been informed about the ongoing issue. We will let you know if there are any updates regarding the issue

deft cloak
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I hope they would give compensation to the players that has experienced this issue

neon dome
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Ok wg. Very funni.

graceful chasm
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where can i find tournament regulations?

open apex
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Is it over

lyric hollow
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lol imagine afk player in tr

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yeah afk for while

languid spruce
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Btw How much coins do u guys think cost for the Super pershing

open apex
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Bro the tour was a steamroll the moment I stepped in

opaque bone
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out of anything one can ask for, you fr chose something that you can get with one match

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opaque bone
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Sarcasm isn't the first thing that crosses my mind after reading dumb statements due to witnessing what this server is capable of

unique shoal
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The new auto aim handles

rotund ginkgo
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Where can I find if my team has more matches in this tournament?

true knot
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Anyone wanna hop into Birthday coins with me tonight?

rotund ginkgo
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Thx 4 help

rocky crystal
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Youre welcome

tacit parrot
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Bruh wg, it’s meant to be a 2v2 tournament

thorn shale
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Hey me and my team did not receive the 1st place award credits and coins yes , gold no?
We did not receive the gold

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<@&481447501690568709>

hollow fiber
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Please do not ping chat moderators for these things.

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But I am trying to inform staff on your behalf.

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@thorn shale 0 Remember it sometimes takes time for rewards to be given.

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Don’t sweat it unless several days go by

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Yes, I know. We got coins and credits, but we didn't get gold

mossy copper
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with the fact that we got coins and credits right after the tournament

thorn shale
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first place and we did not receive gold I feel cheated !!! 😡

tired sapphire
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I expected it 🤣

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@thorn shale Yes, I know, I have been redirected here, so I turn to the admin or employee

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And yet you still pinged us 🙄

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so in either case whoever you contact. you will get the same answer. you aren't supposed to get gold

thorn shale
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So much was the update and it's still unchanged?
Change the icon other player also seas to write about it
Wargaming workers change this icon

cedar parrot
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GODium just explained to you. its a mistake

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besides the description tells you the tournament contains coins as a reward

fluid pilot
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Guys they meant to show coins not gold it's not a hard concept to grasp

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<@&481447501690568709> Emoji spam is back

lapis narwhal
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Hey, that isnt tournament related, can they get muted?

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New comp meta going to be really interesting after Update 9.1. However, many tanks won't be as unique nor as fun as before.

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@thorn shale 💀

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Historical part left the game 5-6years ago i have no idea why people still believe this is some advanced tank simulator. Just a regular arcade game that brings you some fun. After playing same tank over and over again makes the fun less. I think its great way to play same tanks but different. Yes some changes are "weird" but overall its great to "rebalance" whole tier and have different experiences. Random,Rated, Tournaments doesn't matter tier X will feel different and thats a good thing. Hopefully tier 8 changes too since that tier is overcrowded with premium copy/paste tanks.

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NA ign flexsphincter1 ,for tourny

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Do not dm me

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Historical lol I know of no tank that ever existed that if the track was broken you pressed a button and instant retrack. In real life mending tracks takes ages and I mean ages to sort out. In real life the Hetzer would be facing the likes of the IS3 and many Tier X tanks never existed. This was never a tank sim or a truly historical game, but an acarade game with a slant towards history of pre-modern warfare tanks (lets not mention the Chieftain Mk6 lol)

worn juniper
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Guys I did not understand the information in #coming-soon , is Alexandra saying that the next update will only be about new graphics etc and there won’t be those balance changes and they will do those balance changes very later?

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I think it just means they don’t release the update on the stores anymore, but you download it ingame. Kind of confusing wording but they’re not stopping the balance changes and new pbr reworks

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of course

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when the changes happen, they won't be rolled out in an update you have to get from an app store

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the game will automatically update

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Oh man, I hope they won’t do it in the middle of season…

upper oar
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it has to happen in the middle of a season

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assuming Summer Season does happen

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9.1 will probably come out in like 2-3 weeks, if it follows a normal release schedule. 9.0's already been out for 3 weeks. the longest an update has lasted is like 7 weeks

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i doubt the summer season will even start by the time that 9.1 comes out. but if it comes out, the ending championship tournaments are almost certainly going to be in 9.1

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@muted ore @opaque heart in this case, can you guys postpone one of them, I don’t think any of the tournament teams wants a big update which is changing everything in game happen in the middle of the season. We are making trainings and preparing tactics with the current meta but with those balance changes it’s obvious that meta is going to change. In this situation all of the time we spent on training battles and preparing tactics are going to trash which is not good for us.

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To adapt a situation first you need to see the situation and need some time, don’t you? We do trainings with the same reason, to adopt situations. But when 50 tanks are being changed, how can we have idea about what’s going on and What should we do? If the update will be in middle of season we will probably have 1 or maybe 2 days for training. In those trainings, which of the 50 tanks - sorry Lets say we agreed that 30 of tanks doesn’t need to be tried and agree they are still bad and so we have 20 tanks left - will you try there? In 2 trainings maximum. There will be absolute chaos, and tournaments are the top level of this game so we must Show something good there, without being “adopted”, how can we do that ?

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IMO, if WG releases the update in the middle of the season, it will be such a nice challenge for everyone and I m sure it can make comp scene pretty interesting
Basically the team that can adapt to these changes and balances, will be the winner

limber lintel
# thorn shale ^ IMO, if WG releases the update in the middle of the season, it will be such a ...

no, just no, it's just dumb that you'd have to scramble like crazy, to test the new meta, see what works best and then make strats for every map, then get used to the meta in the middle of a season, where we prob already play 3-4 evenings a week for 2 hours or something, like seriously, last thing we need is the other evenings to be filled in with a bunch of trainings trying to find the meta

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As I said, tournament is the top level of this game. It shouldn’t be about who adopt first but should be about who plays better when everyone are adopted.

opaque heart
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I bet you don’t know anything about tournaments

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If they make changes to the meta, everyone is in the same boat, so adapting to change quickly and effectively becomes a more important skill that’ll help teams win

hollow fiber
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It is ok to disagree on something, but don’t be disagreeable and start drama … @worn juniper

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Yes I’m stijn577

Stijn didn’t said you will need to test every single tank, now is your knowledge also questionable?

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who is stijn577

gray pond
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Idk

worn juniper
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Plenty of time

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First of all, you are directly giving a personal comment to stijn’s message by saying “I have bad news for you”. And then you are crying about my comment being very personal for you. I checked your account and I saw you are not a part of this competition, while stijn is. When you don’t know anything about a guy, how can you make such a comment? And since you are not a part of this tournament and competition, how do you know how much time good teams need to adopt?

Second, if you are going to say that I’m actually wrong and you are another guy in game, then “please use your actual nickname” on discord too so that I won’t have a confusion like that.

Third, Stijn didn’t said good teams need to test every single tank, the message before him that was sent by me said we will need to test too many tanks. You are speaking about reading the correct data. Can you Show me the correct data then? Since we don’t have something else than data sent by WG and it says 50 tanks will get buffs and nerfs. In this situation there are tanks to be tested again in competition. I can tell you every tank that my team is interested in testing and you will see that it’s 15+. And to test those, we would have only 1-2 ok maybe 3 or okay maximum 4 days if WG would make the update in tournament season. How are you expecting teams to test all those tanks in this small period of time considering in 1 training we usually play only 6 maps = 12 games, tho 50% of the games are going to trash because one of the teams making a mistake and the result is giving a missleading information to us.

Lastly, i’m not stijn man…

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Bro we are talking in a public channel, by your Logic, you shouldn’t replied to stijn too because he was talking with someone else…

For the part “do you really need to be a part of a tournament team to know stuff about tournament teams”, I say yes. You need to be. We sacrifice from our time and play trainings for 2 hours at nights. We play the tournaments and we know how the tournament scene is. When we know how much time we spend on these things and you don’t know how much time we spend on these things, you can not say “you don’t need that much time to adopt”. Because you don’t know. Although the things you write are a proof that you really don’t know something man sorry.

We see here something being bad for us, and we complain about it to WG. Me or stijn, or someone else, did not messaged to you. Why do you join us and talk then?

Don’t take me wrong, I don’t tell you to shut up as you did to me because we don’t message to you, but just saying we are in a public channel and everyone can talk about anything, it’s the normal.

For the last paragraph, man you said that you know about tournaments, then answer me, when did you saw a good team doing the same tactic at all maps? For example, is there a team who is playing for med side always? Or a team who is playing very deffensive always? No i don’t think so..

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Okay man, have a good day if you are leaving like this.

civic glacier
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Nice essay

worn juniper
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Lol, it was a discussion with @tired sapphire but he deleted 🤷‍♂️

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honestly i think that even if the update is in the middle of the season, you dont need to be worried at all. Who cares that 50 tanks get rebalanced, you can just pick the tanks you think are better for each map with different lineups@worn juniper

worn juniper
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Pfff toni i dont want to repeat myself for you

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Well.. Im more interested about when summer season start.

onyx merlin
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I hope wg consider a little with fv215b on the OT. Bring back all old state and 170pen HE, as compensation 215b only pay a little hull front upper armor and still can't pen if well angled)

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💀

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Stop spamming random emojis

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Lmao nice channel

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@thorn shale hi

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What happened here?

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Are mixed control professional tournaments a possibility? Coz I wanna play competitively but the friends that I play with regularly and most in my clan are PC players. Let’s face it, there’s more PC players in the game than touch, hence why same control mode queues take so long. Plus right now the tournament scene (at least for APAC) is so stale, same players, same teams. There will probably be an uproar amongst the touch community if WG does change it to mixed controls. But most really good touch players can hold their own against PC players anyways.

wicked breach
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Continuing the tradition of someone asking for pc in comp every season blitz_fire

iron crater
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im not opposed to a pc comp scene but i also dont really care so

If wg wants to do it they’ll do it, our opinions here mean nothing lol

upper oar
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if there’s no Twister Cup this year, offlines are really dead. and in that case, there really is no meaningful reason for comp to limited to touch only

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of course they are in their rights to make any regulations they want, but that’s the only reason the rule has made sense

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Well no, there are some plausible reasons. Again, i dont really care either way, but I offer what I believe is the explanation for it.

While the skill ceiling of the comp scene would change very little if at all, the skill floor is drastically lowered, tour skills that are difficult to develop in mobile are generally much easier to do in pc. For example, lt brawling and hit and runs are made easier because of off screen auto aim lock on, in mobile you’ll have to be keeping your entire screen on the guy, and this tends to result in crashing into other tanks/buildings which gets you killed or bled

For heavy brawling, you are more aware of your surroundings because its generally more comfortable - not easier - to look around and move for hp share or low targets, its not any much requiring of skill to do this, its just simply more comfortable to do it on pc.

In addition to selective scoping and the mostly agreed upon easier-to-aim on pc, pc in general as I’ve shown is just way more comfortable/easier to play tours on, introducing pc into mobile would eradicate most mobile players save for the extremely experienced ones, to get that competitive advantage.

I will not use the preference explanation, and admittedly it is very difficult to find a logically valid reason as to why wg is not considering a pc scene, the best one i can think of is wg wanting to have firm grips on multiple platforms at the same time, mobile comp is becoming increasingly popular (ever so slowly), by creating a pc comp scene wg looses hold on mobile players and denies them this market. A separate coexisting pc league might make sense, that has its pro events like twister at different times to avoid splitting viewership, but I think wg just doesn’t spare the effort to create a separate scene

flint sinew
remote panther
thorn shale
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@ebon goblet dm

flint sinew
thorn shale
flint sinew
flint sinew
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Welp he’s no fun to talk with…. Don’t know why gotta talk in such condescending way

opaque bone
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Separate PC comp scene would be nice, not touch and PC together

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outer isle
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Keep pc out of comp pls thx

civic glacier
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Pc comp lul

outer isle
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Agree with ernezd

lapis narwhal
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Tbh, I think muting @rose haven was a great investment for this server and that he should permanently be muted and should never be able to talk again blitz_duck

thorn shale
flint sinew
# thorn shale 'do you guys not have phones?'

I play on my phone. But they only play on PC. They play like a bot on phone 🤣

Anyway, im just poking to see if there are people with the same idea and read everyone’s opinions about it.

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tbh mixed comp scene would be more like pc come scene because the benefits of of pc outweighs the benefits of mobile, pc is just flat out better.

iron crater
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wg fr waiting to june 30 for “end of june” summer season announcement

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Hello gais

little olive
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this channer is... Interesting I may say I could see a lot of people getting muted

iron crater
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us tour players greatly enjoy torture

maiden anvil
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I have never been muted before.

rocky crystal
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Youre just a very respectful blitzer

copper ore
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Let's wish @opaque heart happiest b-day! 🎉

languid spruce
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Uhh So the T26E4 will be available After 2 Hour?

drifting needle
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Happy Birthday 🎉 Tolyan! 🎉

vital obsidian
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Happy birthday!

wicked breach
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Happy birthday 🍰 !

opaque heart
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oh, thanks a lot! ❤️

silver beacon
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Happy birthday Tolyan!

scenic thorn
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Happy birthday Tolyan 🥳

primal talon
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Happy birthday Tolyan🎉

broken obsidian
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Happy Bday

iron crater
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Happy bday ❤️❤️

thorn salmon
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Happy birthday 💙

toxic lintel
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Happy birthday 😎

opaque heart
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I think u should watch the stream today 😏

scenic thorn
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The surprise we all been waiting for

opaque heart
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yes

outer isle
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Money big simp
Anyway happy birthday from me toobro blitz_fire

remote panther
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@opaque heart happy birthday, have a nice day❤️blitz_fire 🎉

languid spruce
past marlin
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Happy birthday 🎂🎂🎉

cobalt yarrow
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Happy birthday Tolyan 🎂

thorn shale
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@opaque heart happy birthday 🎈

jaunty sonnet
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Today I sold my is7 and i got 2 mil credits, it isn’t fair

cerulean kelp
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@opaque heart happy bday🥳 was hoping to meet some WG devs at tenkfest yesterday but couldnt cus u didnt stream on the stage behind the gaming zone 😦

copper ore
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we didn't get visas (yet ahaha)

fast echo
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@opaque heart s dr bro nadeus’ prizovie pridut skoro 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

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barren imp
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happy birthday tolyan, i appreciate all you do:^)

fluid pilot
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Happy birthday pro bro tolyan

proud holly
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🎂 _ _

maiden anvil
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happy birthday @opaque heart my favourite war gamer

opaque heart
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Thank u guys! 🤝

valid adder
# copper ore we didn't get visas (yet ahaha)

Iam sure you have some contacts to get visa🤣
Ik know that it is the wrong channel but allow me one question. Will we get sooner or later ingame battlemusic like in WoT? It would change the game atmosthere in a positive way for sure 🤷‍♂️
And btw. happy Birthday @opaque heart :)

shy dove
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@copper ore Why don't we receive coins in the tier 8 tournament on Saturday June 25 if we win the upper final?

grim blade
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Happy birthday!

opaque heart
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solemn nexus
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Happy birthday tolyan!! 🎊 🍰 🎉🍉

rocky cipher
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Bruh I just wanna see some more info on summer tournaments ngl....

boreal dew
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can we get the rest of that tournament info, all i know is 24th and $10,000

proud holly
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bruh this better not be like money blasters

worn juniper
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Where did they announced the tournament information?

gray pond
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Another Money Blaster!

boreal dew
mellow belfry
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Happy birthday blitz_duck 🥳 @opaque heart

worn juniper
dim pivot
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idle chasm
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Happy Birthday🎉 @opaque heart

steel shell
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Unmuted on time 😏
Happy birthday @opaque heart 🎉

analog osprey
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@opaque heart Happy birthday 🐐

lapis narwhal
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Happy Birthday 🙂

boreal dew
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more info when

limber ridge
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Happy bday @opaque heart 🎉 don’t spend ur day playing blitz

harsh quail
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Happy birthday 🎊 🎉 🥳 @opaque heart

dusk lantern
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Happy birthday power

rare trellis
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🤨

fluid pilot
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Please keep this channel sfw and on topic

limber ridge
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Lmao what !?!?

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😔

rose haven
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Happy birthday tolyan blitz_duck blitz_duck blitz_duck blitz_duck blitz_duck

inland condor
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Can you guys give a bit more info about the tournament by now? I‘m talking about non-server-player rules, ingame rewards, duration and so on. Thanks 🙏🏼

boreal dew
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^ i appreciate the hints and all but cash prize and date really isn’t enough to go off

upper oar
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WG will announce if the non-server player rule changes, otherwise expect nothing has changed

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@solemn nexus

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zealous valley
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does anyone wanna play with me on 2v2 birthday coins tournament VIII with vc?

waxen vigil
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Excuse me, what is the bonus code for 10 cups? if he is?

worn marten
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update 9.1 will be before or after summer season?

opaque heart
summer ibex
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Late to the birthday wishes since I'm a late-night guy but happy bday tolyan! Thanks for your efforts on keeping the competitive community informed and aware of things beforehand!

thorn shale
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I thought we can have full info about the Summer Blaster Tournament, but the only thing that we know is 10k $ as prize pool and the registration date

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Is this info Top Secret? Why not provide complete info sooner?
We need to know full information about when the update will be released and what prizes are included in this tournament.

summer ibex
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Yeah i think so too because it's exactly the same prize pool as the money Blaster

summer ibex
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yes that is true. instead of "money blaster" it's "summer blaster" when the winter one could have been "winter blaster"

opaque heart
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u'll have 2 weeks

vital obsidian
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What does ”customization” mean? Camo? Avatar?

inland mica
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Yes…

opaque heart
opaque heart
feral sleet
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will there be king of the hill bg/pro avatar/prof camo as rewards for summer or only summer cyber camo?

thorn shale
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@opaque heart will be top16?

hoary tiger
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Hello guys

inner socket
fading cipher
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Do only top 8 teams advance to the final tournament?

glad tartan
blazing oak
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top16 still gets cyber camo right? @opaque heart

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@opaque heart regarding summer tour, will the rules from top 8 be applied to the qualifications too? Like to avoid a whole Russian team qualifying and then not being able to play top 8 because of the 2 player from outside the region rule?
And the news says the top 8 teams get tickets - does that mean the tickets for the top 8 will be player specific, instead of "for the whole clan"?

vital obsidian
# opaque heart Avatars

Thanks for info. It would be really appreciated if you could give info of 3 super important things a bit sooner, to be able prepare: 1) can one clan have several teams competing 2) can Ukraina player be counted as EU player 3) how many CIS players in team in top8?

dim pivot
# opaque heart Avatars

there was a mention of champion avatar on stream which will be given to top 1 of each major season if i understood it correctly, will this avatar be taken away from old season winners when a new team wins the most recent season?

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glad tartan
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@opaque heart Is that avatar given to top8 teams, or its just an avatar for season winners?

  • If its customization, what kind? Players will decide, or its basically a new avatar?
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onyx merlin
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@opaque heart so this time will we have regulation about only 2 foreign player on the team?

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leaden belfry
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Thank you =)

outer isle
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Hard tour

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valid adder
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Ok so if I conclude: you can get only cyber camo and the prize pool in Top 8. Other goods e.g. Avatar and Customization are temporary?

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onyx merlin
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@opaque heart what happens if team has more than 2 foreign players (except Ukraine player)? The whole team will be punished?

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worn juniper
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Is there no any reward for top12 or top16?

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vital obsidian
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Tolyan: Big Thanks for answer, we now know enough 😉

opaque heart
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I will be grateful if you wait for the full regulations in mid-July, where all the rewards details will be 🙂
I am sharing as much information as possible.

valid adder
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Ok so If you registrate a Team than you cannot change it the whole tournament? Correct?

thorn shale
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@opaque heart maybe background on rewards ?

outer isle
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Pls put also top16 like money banger 🙏
With relative prizes ofc

split cosmos
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If you think about the summer of 2020, you might think differently 😅

thorn shale
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LOL all these rewards are only for top 8?

Bruh

worn juniper
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I mean if there is no reward for top8-16 and also top16-32 then 60% of the teams will be deleted cuz no point on playing

Unles they want to just waste their time

outer isle
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Agree with @worn juniper
Even 80% of team actually*

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thorn shale
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Instead of encouraging all players to play, you make them to stop playing in comp scene
At least put prizes like Money Blaster
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worn juniper
outer isle
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@inner socket you're too aggressive friend from South. You should hope for them 🙂

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valid adder
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Ciappo friendly as always🤣

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iron crater
split cosmos
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I'm not talking about that, at the time, all the prizes were there, up to 1-8

olive brook
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overall bad idea

flint sinew
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I have another issue I’d like to bring up. This is about the way season coins tournament work.

So, right now teams are split into groups of 4 with double elimination where one team may lose once but work their way back up to the top if they win.

I had this situation many times where my team gets to the grand finals only to lose once to the same team that we beat in lower brackets, and therefore lose the tournament, which is a little unfair since my team only lost once. Therefore it’s not true to the double elimination rule.

My proposed solution would be to make the grand finals a ‘best of 5’ rounds instead of ‘best of 3’.

olive brook
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u should make it so only top 1 gets prizes now thats a good idea ❤️

shy sun
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Interesting to see how reroll players who ve been earning top 16/12 rewards just cuz of reroll mm are crying cuz now u actually gotta know how to play in order to achieve rewards 👍

olive brook
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agreed

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olive brook
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aa i can tell u one @iron crater hes a big reroll and ps horrible player ❤️ why are u all complaining about cyber camos

violet comet
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So there is no rewards top 16-32? Bad idea at all, cuz all team who know they can only make top 16 will not play because they won’t have camos and avatars who is the most important and rare thing, and some players can only play in summer it’s sad ….

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It is

olive brook
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@iron crater pro blue and orange where keep crying when

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whats even good about cybers and imo they were to easy to get making it so its all in top 8 is actually good imo since not just random people will get the cybers they actually have to try for instance it will make it more of an achievement when u get them

olive brook
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ewww dont say that word no its cursed anyway idk why people are crying over cybers i hate them so enjoy

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proud holly
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Cyber Summer was reserved for top 12 last year. At least it’ll stay semi exclusive, even though it’s a pretty ugly camo imho.

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Will the champion avatar be available for the top4? Or only for those who win the tournament itself @opaque heart

olive brook
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@proud holly best looking camos mate are the top 4 camos cyber is irrelevant imo

proud holly
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Undeniable Advantage >>>

terse charm
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Who all can participate in this?? Is this another touch only BS tournament or atleast now will WG would give something for PC player base?

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olive brook
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-_- well might not be as easy as u think for some people aka @iron crater

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cosmic badger
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lame in-game rewards for summer season nice 😐 what’s the point in playing for top 8 just to get cyber camo when previous top 16 players got it with so much less effort...

thorn shale
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I hope challengers gets their own ugly camo

proud holly
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Fanzone camos 😌

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remote panther
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Agreed

calm atlas
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Cant agree, never played on ASIA

olive brook
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alright make an account on asia and get to top 8 and top 4 then say that alright ❤️

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olive brook
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@violet comet already have one mate and i cant play tours since im a student and they are in the middle of the day sooo yeah and as i remember i never said going onto eu and getting top 8-4 is easy but we have 2 APA eu players who want to get to top 4 on asia and they are struggling

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RIP bozo ig