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This way, team 2 players will play 3 battles in another clan and will join back to the clan A and get tickets again. At this point I would suggest using those cups in storage which are just staying there and doing nothing. If a clan can create only 1 team and only if players who got most cups (top10) in clan will get tickets, then problem will be solved.
U couldve done it a better way to avoid getting banned ie Elev Winter
first/second/third league as well
The idea of restricting clans to 1 team or even fixing the roster has been considered in past seasons and the general feedback from the clans is that they dont like such things, it is too restrictive. The 3 qualifying PYS was introduced in an attempt to ensure that at least those going into the final stages after PYS had actually played in the qualifiers. I agree its not an ideal system, but selling spots is not strictly against the rules of the game. Yes legally you can manipulate the rules to an extent to catch such a thing, but then you need the evidence which unless someone who actually buys a place complains will never really happen.
Then you need to draw a distinction between selling spots and sponsorship. Some clans do in fact pay players, aka sponsorship. That is also akin to selling spots, albeit with cash going the other way, but it does impact upon recruitment as some clans cannot compete with that and thus can grant an advantage to the more cash fluid clan. In real terms both could be seen in the same light and as such to penalise those who pay a clan to play and not penalise clans to pay players is somewhat harsh me thinks. Personally I do not fully see the overall harm in people choosing to pay a clan for a spot, if the have the qualifying PYS. Yes there is an argument about the moral side or the fact such players may be taken advantage of, but overall it doesnt really have an impact on the tour, not really. Ok so some player may get a Pro avatar or such, but flexing with an award that is not truly deserved is just rather sad really.
Well said Fugit. And imo the 3 qualifier rule is pointless since its enough to put acco in any ghost team and get enough PYS. Only those who total afk and therefore miss out are suffering.
i like quick tournaments
Well how can they proof people buy/sell spots, this all goes through discord and anyone can fake disord messages
It feels like I am reading the same dicussions every season
it ez a cycle
No no non don’t buff these tanks but nerf the new op tanks
the multiple teams per clan is at its core unfair if I'm being honest, nothing is stopping clans from handling it like -BPS- did with making another team in BPS, under a different tag. Just imagine if a certain football team could put 2 teams into the qualifiers and the best performing team will count to the decision which teams go to the final stages, to me it's ludicrous that this is even considered debatable, it's at its very core unfair.
Well what’s the difference between SPRTA and SPRTB
Its the same thing lol with the rules that you dont have to play pys in the same clan as u play a finals in
SPRTB is just an in-clan meme but used to be some sort of academy clan, wasn't in my time tho, from the time I joined (SPRTA main I mean) it's been mostly the AFK kinda clan, 😂
ur argument makes no sense. there are so many clan families who run multiple teams under different clan tags. like on NA you have teams like PRAMO and PURPL which are both in the same clan family. the case of -BPS- and BPS is exactly the same.
Maybe read like the first sentence where I said thats ok and I'm all for it idc, but I'm talking about multiple teams under the same clantag, like seriously, read then write, I literally put -BPS/BPS as an example, 🙈
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Just read the room
idk maybe the grammar was off or something bc i was completely under the impression you were against second teams in different clans
Nono, no issue at all with that, only in same clans, 😁
Also sorry i overreacted insultingly with my message, 🤝
The example of BPS and -BPS- isn’t something that’s morally wrong tho imo. The points that either clans attain will only benefit their respective clans, instead of a singular entity. Plus if a single clan did run multiple teams, only the highest result would count anyways.
even with same clans it’s just a pointless waste of time to run multiple teams. one team isn’t gonna get anything from it.
^ I doubt the non main team of a clan would play under that said clan if they’re actually good enough to operate under an individual clan tag.
"Tomorrow or after tomorrow"
Thats what he said earlier...
How hard is it to do something irl instead of sitting around all day waiting for ur rewards lmao like chill
He needs his cyber spring to flex 😤
Pardon me but I don’t think 15th-16th qualifies for a cyber spring
he needs that 10k free xp
What rewards are you getting?!
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When will there be monetary prizes? Gold is cool but I’d rather gamble on crates with money
There will most likely be monetary prizes after ukraine defends its sovereignty fully
Its not about the money, its about sending a message.
oh, I don’t pity your team then. I bet the rewards were well worth it for you guys to even think of doing such despicable actions.
my man's getting excited for 25% of the original prize fund
cease moment
Cease moment
Why did my game decided to sign me out during a battle. And now I can't sign into my account however I can sign into my friends account but he can't sign into mine and it was during the tourney too while I was tourney leader.
Shaking my head
@muted ore i have a personal question towards pro rewards, the online support system didn't really do much for me, i cant dm you the specifics because your dms are closed but if you are willing to hear me out id be grateful
Its impressive to cheat at a higher percentage than you win games
Ouch.
LOL
PFFT
i cant even delete that. his team just got violated
@fresh berry submit the pictures to wg support online. Not here
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IMO there is a better way than allowing clans to create one team only.(As mentioned before, they could just play qualifiers in another clan). Better option in my opinion, would be doing something like in the Money Blaster tournament, that it's the same players playing all qualifiers and also the finals. This was a very good way of preventing selling spots, Idk why WG gave it up
Well, it's the "clan" championship, and not "team" championship, so Idk why would they ban creating more than 1 team
There is absolutely nothing preventing a clan having multiple clans and there is literally no way such a thing can be stopped or even prevented. If a clan like BPS has multiple clans then fair enough they are not breaking the rules. At the end of the day if the tour community is so annoyed about this then why do the players go there? You cant have your cake and eat it I am afraid, in the vain hope that WG will magic some rule to prevent it whilst ensuring that no clan/player is penalised unjustly.
Putting in numerous teams is also perfectly fine, after all clans have spots for 50 players, not 10, and therefore it is perfectly acceptable for clans to field as many teams as they can muster. If 1 clan decides to put in 1 team and another clan puts in 2 then fair play to the clan that has 20 players who are active, skilled and willing enough to play in the tours. Every clan has this right, it is not open to the select few.
As for multiple clans under the same tag, like BPS, again there is nothing wrong with this I dont think. Again if a clan is successful enough to attract enough players to make such a thing happen then fair play to them. Yes we can bemoan that players are attracted to such clans due to the 'sponsorship' side and yes many clans are unable to compete at that kind of level, but the fact remains 'Professional' means 'someone engaged in a specific activity as paid occupation rather than a pastime'. On the one hand we all want the Pro Tour scene to grow and have lovely prize funds etc yet on the other we moan about clans like BPS paying players. Ngl as a member of a Tour clan its not easy to entice the top players across, wish it were, and yes trying to compete against paying clans feels unfair. That doesnt mean however that we wont continue to try and attract star players, just makes our job a lot harder.
I disagree on the multiple teams per clan part, tbh. While I understand that people want to fight for and under their own clan tag, the system is openly abused. That's partly because cups and tickets are handed to the clan as a whole, rather than specific players. The situation where one team fights the qualifiers and another team plays the top 8 because the first team doesn't meet the requirements as a Prof-team shouldn't be made possible imo.
To avoid that, it would mean that either there should be only one team per clan, or cups/tickets are given to the players that qualified only. And the rules from Prof should apply to qualifiers too, which would have avoided the specific example of this season.
There's no ideal solution, and most solutions can be abused in other ways and/or cause other issues and inconveniences in other ways, so I don't envy Wg needing to make the calls here
Restricting clans to fielding 1 single team is very unfair really. Clans will generally field a 'core' team and in lots of cases many players may not make the grade and will be become disenfranchised totally. Having the ability to put more than 1 team in is one way around this. I do agree with the cups side. In the 'Blaster' event teams went on their own merit, regardless of if they were 1st, 2nd or 3rd team. This was a good thing and it did prevent cups being 'shared'. Problem there was that the roster was fixed.
I am all for fixed rosters, ngl, but then the clans need to buy into that side and embrace it. Fixing rosters will eliminate a majority of the issues faced in CW and will actually make the rule violation checks a lot easier and no doubt quicker.
How is there no rule for spot selling man ? @latent olive @gusty jacinth
edit those two letters out, pls. Don't want to have to delete your message
thanks =)
that's why it's a tough situation. I don't want to restrict teams per clan either, but I also don't want that to be repeatedly abused 😅
and selling of spots should definitely be prohibited - but it's something that'd be very hard to prove happened. WG doesn't see discord as proof (and for very good reasons), and I doubt people are dumb enough to talk about it in game
It’s not that it isn’t prohibited, it’s that there is no way for wargaming to regulate it. Discord doesn’t count as proof since it can easily be faked and no one would admit to it in game.
exactly that
As with all things legal the problem rests with the wording, in this case 'Commercial Fraud', which means that a party was duped, either negligently or dishonestly, into doing something that gained an advantage. If WG removed 'commercial fraud' and changed the wording to read 'Any act related to the sale of accounts etc...' that would eliminate the mischief and make the rule far easier to apply across the board
If tickets were handed only to top10 players with highest amount of cups from the clan, wouldn't everything get fixed? 🤔
Yes, just as I said
The reason that doesnt happen is because rosters are not fixed and players can and do leave clans between PYS & top tour. Therein lies the issue really.
Wg already out with rewards 😋
YOOOO rewards out!!!
Thank you for being so fast this season wargaming, gotta be a record in speed
Alternatively, if WG really wants to keep the 'commercial fraud' wording, just rearrange the words. In law the preceding words take precedence, so i this case everything needs to be a 'commercial fraud'. Rearranging it so that is reads "Sale of places in HoF or rewards that Team, clan and players receive and any commercial fraud related to the sale of accounts, is prohibited". That would certainly work and remove the issue of the wording without actually removing WG's overall intentions
there's an issue there though. In what way can you say the place was sold if the guy has to play x amount of battles during the tour? Because he could have 'earned' it then..
^^ theres no way to distinguish the two
Yes that is a major issue because players are free to clan hop and the 'smoking gun' evidence that a spot was actually sold only exists in places like discord DM's or something similar, none of which can be used as definitive evidence. Not only that, in most cases the person paying gets what they paid for, namely a spot in the team and the rewards that come with it. Most are probably after the avatar & camo and thus they are not likely to fess up really because they achieved their aim. They will just argue that it was 'sponsorship' and that brings me back to what I said earlier about where do you draw the line between clans paying players & players paying clans?
yeah, it's iffy... 😬
I don't mind teams getting sponsored, mind you - that's happened since the beginning of tours and if it wasn't an issue then it shouldn't be one now. But buying slots/prizes is different imo
another thing that could potentially work upto a level is seeing qualifiers and prof as one tour. It'd mean being part of that specific clan and team for the duration of the tour season as a whole, but that would require a team to be set and players committing to it for quite a long period of time, which also isn't ideal
This was alot faster than anticipated. 🙏
Aside from like it being kinda crappy whats the issue with selling spots though like the teams that sell spots arent ones that were gonna be competing at the highest level anyway and people get undeserved rewards but its the same as account sharing where it hurts nobody except those involved
Thanks for rewqrds wg, Sirius u are my hero
@ocean lagoon Hi. Unfortunately, I can't help in any way with the blocking issue, only support can do that.
Thx for rewards wg
its not easy to combat. I personally have no issue with clans paying players, sponsorship is not a bad thing for the CW side tbh. Selling spots is different to an extent, but does fall under the same premise. As I said previously, players rolling out sporting avatars & camos they dont really deserve is rather sad and whilst the general player base doesnt have a clue, the CW base knows they dont warrant it and will not respect them.
The only real way to prevent such things is to fix the team rosters at the start of the season. That creates its own issues, what with people having to commit far in advance and things may come about that will prevent them from paying, thus leaving the team in the lurch potentially. Yes there are 10 spots so in theory that shouldnt be an issue, but it can be. Maybe increase the spots to 12, thus giving a blanket of 5 to fix the roster and then the clan has to pick the team of 10 from that fixed roster. That would in effect allow some freedom of movement for the clan and also prevent the spot selling because the roster is fixed.
Fixed team of 10 through whole tourney including PYS is best option. To increase roster to 12 or more would only put out more spots for sale. On other hand its hypocratic to blame spot byers, is there really any difference to spot sponsors who dont play any important game
And that is the thing, when you break it all down they both relate to the same in real terms. It may not seem that way, but it does. A player paying to be in the top tour is no different to a clan paying a top player to be in their team, not really. If 1 is bad, so is the other really. Its a circular argument. Both could be argued as a form of 'sponsorship', regardless which way the money actually goes.
Since it is almost impossible in the current situation to attract commercial sponsors; why not make it possible to sell ”spectator/sponsor spots” as a way to get some extra to the team
Not a bad idea really
It also doesnt help that wargaming is beyond terrible at marketing the entire comp aspect of their game
I see not having fixed roster for pro league tournaments as a mistake
Never said it was a mistake. Thing is some clearly are upset over spot selling & the only real way to combat that is to fix the team, simple. If that is not an option then spot selling will continue, regardless. Having it that the top 10 players from the clan get the tickets could deprive a clan of tickets to actually take part despite having made it there, because players do move around even between top 8 clans between PYS & Pro tour
@spiral flower & what is your point about that?
guys in this chat there are russians
Selling places was always going to happen without a real prize in playing the season for top seeds, wg didn't take measures before the tourney and so it happens
As long as they speak English on this server, people can be from anywhere
GJ by WG to deliver the rewards so quickly
but i wont to find rushen or ukrainifn peple for tournaments
just shut up
What are you talking about? There are plenty of players from across numerous countries who take part in tournaments and not a single country is discriminated against. If you are trying to create an issue then go somewhere else to create it, there is no need for such stuff on this entire server.
Thx
when recruiting players for a tournament in #tourneys-team-search you can always ask for them to be russian speaking. But yes, on this server, they must speak English
Me too! I got them for only 100$! What about you!????
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😋 although thanks WG for 4 day waiting period very cool
thanks for getting rewards out so fast wg 🤝
Ty wg
@opaque heart since when were collector vehicles compensated as credits ???
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Bruh
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Disney World > 1st place 🥇
World to my mother
why NA players spam so much ?
Should have sold the VK
Tbf I needed the credits tbhq
We should have offlines in Disney world
Can russian gamer play in EU team and if he can, which restrictions it includes?
Nah Bruh I couldn’t cuss at all if I cussed everyone would look at me lmao
saying bad words :0
@muted ore @opaque heart I would really like to ask you if what has been done seems right: to put as a prize for the top 3 in the challenger a tank that in the same days was put in a free to play event = result clearing of 1 m of credits and therefore who did top3 wins 1m of credits and whoever made top4 3500 gold. I could have understood if I had already had the tanks and therefore patience, but that this is created because you have done at the same time an event with the same tank is really unfair and ridiculous, as well as disrespectful for the players. you should have thought about it first and put in a different tank. I really hope you can at least think about giving some sort of compensation for you created this situation.
So so
XD op
Nice
when am i getting my blitz cup package 😢
Can’t be racist either…
Opa you dont have it?
I received it like a 4-5 months ago
Soon
We got 10k gold remember!!!
Pagliaccio
@opaque heart please accept friend request to discuss something privat
@opaque heart although we've seen 9.1 will bring a massive rebalance,rework and change of most t10s, will we see any changes in the tournament scene during 9.1? (Other than the ones provoked by these changes i mean)
What do you mean, for example?
Changes on maps used during tournaments to better fit the changes seen in high tiers, including some old ones that were removed to be reworked and removing some that are currently used.
An increase in regular rewards for participation/winning for non-competitive tournaments(quick tourneys)?
Which has been asked for before but I don't think there has been such a change as of yet, those are the 2 things that came to mind
Edit: yes I'm sure it might take a while to reintroduce some maps that are still being worked on but I'm sure they will eventually come into the game
I'd say it's a little too early to speculate what they may change for Summer Season
Be patience.
Nah i didnt get anything
Edit: i forgot you cant swear in this server
invidia il male
Sicuro
@sinful crest don’t pretend like you didn’t cuss at disney
Gotta break the rules here and there 😹😹😹 it’s why I account shared
ayo??
Hi What's news for Upcoming tour Is there something interesting?
Oh, my post got deleted.. sry if it was inappropriate 😅
Are you surprised?
I'm not even sure if it was against the rules, their were no names in it, it was a post on discord about someone advertising a place for top 8 in professional tours for 100$
Stuff like this should be actually banned, because it just makes money overcome skill
And what can wg do about your screenshot?
XD
Perhaps they saw it as advertising
I didn't mean to advertise xdd, should've wrote that when I posted it
Maybe
@scenic thorn I don't remember asking wg to do something about the screenshot 🤔
And consider "stuff like this should be actually banned" an opinion
I’m not saying you did, I just point out it could have been seen that way
In future I want be an agent selling spots in top8 👍🏻
Hey, I know someone who can help you achieve your dream @drifting spade
Good. I guess we can open a company aswell 👍🏻
@opaque heart as you see, spot selling will be here again this season. If you will make fixed teams and make rule violation checks before top8 / 16 tournaments, everything will be fine i guess. But when you see there is a rule violation, will be better if you will delete cups instead of deleting 25% or 75% of credits etc. So that teams can’t participate to top8 tournament.
I don’t understand your question or statement tbh, there’s literally nothing wargaming can do about forfeiting or selling spots for money lol. There’s been a numerous amount of times where teams literally throw, discord screenshots and everything but wargaming doesn’t or can’t do anything about it. Your worry is a lost cause buddy
Paying to be on a team is potentially a detriment to that team anyways.
I wrote the things they can do to stop it already..?
When will summer season start? Please tag me when someone will answer
Ye but when, okey thx @chilly hemlock, i answerd like this bcz there is a timer
When they’re ready to announce it, you’ll know😃
Unrealistic too ambitious
i'm happy about this so i can finally work from home and get some free moneys. easy clap
@opaque heart hello, is the next season will be in money blaster style or same as in spring season ?
It will be a completely new style!
T8 summer again????
What about tier 6? 🤯
or some odd tiers for a change like 1,3,5,7 (9 is basically 10 )
Huh
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I'm curious what the format will be like, as usual or moneyblaster
I agree tier 1 tournaments when
Hello. I can't give any info at this moment.
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@thorn shale can I join?
Of course apply
No problem bro
They can: remove the possibility to do more than one team for clan. Then put the rules that u have to play the 50% of pys in a team to get the ticket for that team. Then u can understand that situations like 1 can’t be showed again
Nothing can be done my friend I work for wargaming
he actually does ^
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Dear game makers; You may be thinking why this man is constantly criticizing, but I love this game and you people who work hard. Just why not better 🙂
It is very difficult to find a tournament team, and it is even more difficult to keep them all ready until the end of the tournament. For the first time in a long time, when we found the full team, the system's inability to find opponents at very long intervals, and the fact that they waited for a very long time since the beginning of the tournament, especially in the final, unfortunately caused my players to lose. It's a quick tournament after all, so the breaks shouldn't be that long. If there is no opponent, our next round or championship should be awarded immediately. Now I don't want to use other levels and my rights just for this reason. thanks @twin pelican
its possible i missed something but im failing to see how that would prevent off the counter deals to either pay people for a spot or being paid for a spot
that kind of thing is just impossible to prevent unless people are stupid enough to do it in-game. if people want to use Discord or Gmail or iMessage or whatever they choose to message each other about stuff, that apparently can’t be used as proof
8 days 💀
i don’t see how this is a fault of the game or the developers…everyone should wait for an actual team to play. just because there isn’t a massive pool of players doesn’t mean WG is obligated to hand out free victories when teams don’t immediately get matched
to be honest, the quick tournament name actually refers to how quick it is to register and start participating, not always and necessarily how fast you’ll be matched up with another team
I am dum
Then why is our final opponent competing against us by skipping 3 laps at once? You are already doing this. Also, I know very well what is called a fast and flexible tournament, I have been organizing tournaments for at least five years with Challonge and Braced Cloud software. The 8 minutes you see in the picture is not our total waiting time, we waited for almost half an hour, there was also a constant rewind. If you answered as a game maker, you are giving a very wrong answer, if you are not authorized, let real authorities answer these questions and questions.
Go play prime hour and you will fast get opponent, at least on EU. From 19:30 -->
Reaching level 3 match without actually facing anyone is not same with what u suggest. If you think about the whole process you can understand why. Just think about total amount of competitors (as different scenarios). Lets say there are seven teams at the beginning, and later one more entered. What should they do? You suggest them to give everything to three teams, but the current model will still pick of them. The current model can be still considered as fast (since it is still faster than "other" tournaments). They cannot set teams via using bots to reduce waiting durations. You can either call more people to play in these tournaments or try different (higher) tiers maybe.
i wonder if your team won instead will you complain again mr.etkin ?
lol, thats all he does, complains
I wonder too, were you always this unsympathetic? Don't be more royalist than king. I'm just asking the official and waiting for the answer from them. Besides, we already won. I mentioned that the team should get bored of waiting and decrease.
u said waiting caused your players to lose so im just curious thats all 🙂 you can wait for officials but not sure what you expect them to do ? if they are no available teams you wait its simple 🙂
He left
he will come again in a week 🙂
Just a quick question: Does anybody knows some guide or YTchannel for Tier6 tournaments? What i did find material it’s either super low footage quality or it’s min4 years old…
Hes malding 💀
Hoooog ridaaaaa
Anyone wanna get into a 7v7 tournament tonight? I can do any tier
Bruh omega I invited you 😭
Fugit555 is typing...
Not really no. T6 is the ‘introductory’ level for tours so most focus on T10 tours as they are more complex & used to be more than IS7 & T100LTs. T6 is all about tanks like Arl and maybe Cromwells or even KVs (2 & 1s)
thats a good point but the teams don't get rewards if they lose. The skip makes sense because the lower tour team has to beat a "better" team to get the rewards.
Complains about T6 tournaments that barely anyone is interested in 👀 you will skip rounds (or someone else will skip to your round) if it takes too long and if there are another players participating. If you start the tournament directly after they are available often there is barely anyone playing. Play them in the evening instead, more teams participating.
My condolences.
What are the meta tanks for a t10 tournament? Is there a list or something like that?
Yeah, FV4202, Leopard 1 and E5
^ this is probably not correct
Manager#3072 | 24/5/22, 12:05:27
Yeah, FV4202, Leopard 1 and E5 I need a list, because I haven't all 3 tanks, u said
IS-7, 50B, T57, Yoh, 60TP and T-100LT
prioritise 60tp and is7
^ this likely correct.
Concept 1b is my favorite world of tanks blitz tournament vehicle, if only I had money during Christmas last year to enjoy it
50b 57?
57 is a bit of a stretch but 50b def
Presently all you need is 60tp, T100 and IS7 - thats it really for the current meta lol
- Yohs/Concept/Vks
no, all you need in tournaments is the t110e4 american tank destroyer as the name correlates to its abilities in the battle
Pro advice
along with a purchase of the battlestar camo you can be the real star of any competitive match
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I like your strategy
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Buying the legendary camo on the IS-4 automatically gives you skill
Buy AMX 50B's veteran camo and you instantly learn how to play autoloaders perfectly

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Hi all
Hello, players! How do you think 👇🏼
The best choice for the Grand Final is 1️⃣ bo9 or 2️⃣ bo11?
Holy moly bo11 🥶
bo9’s adequate imo, but has there ever been any consideration for the team in the lower bracket of the Grand Final to defeat the upper bracket team by a higher amount than just 1 match to compensate for the upper team losing their double elimination status once they enter into the Grand Finals?
Bo11 💪
If teams in grand finals were able to pick/ ban maps for bo11 it would be possible but letting wg choose maps for bo11 could be deadly 💀💀
While we are on the topic of possible changes to the competitive scene, I’d like to bring up an idea for a change in how the seeding works.
First I’d like to address the problem I see, which is that people who don’t create re-roll accounts are at an inherent disadvantage when it comes to the current seeding system. Anyone’s account that includes the “learning phase” of their blitz experience is going to have significantly lower career stats— and therefore lower seeding— compared to how they are able to perform at the current time, due to all that they have learned up to that point.
Rather than taking into consideration the career Tier 10 stats of an account when weighing it for seeding, I propose that there be a required amount of qualifying games to each season.
Each player that plans to play the season must complete, at some point during the qualification time, “x” number of tier 10 games. (Say, for example, players were required to play 100 tier 10 games during the month of May in order to qualify for competitive tournaments in June.)
These “qualifying games” could be normal public games, with the player being able to decide if and when they want their qualifying games to start, similar to how some events have worked in the past where the player decides when the evaluation period starts. It could even become a toggle-able button in the public match menu, where a player can turn on and off when they want to be evaluated, like when they turn on and off encounter or supremacy game modes. This would allow the player to still play casually whenever they want but still have a basis for seeding evaluation through the winrate of their [100] (arbitrary) qualifying games. It would also not affect players who have no interest in tournaments because they could leave the “evaluation” option toggled off.
Then, when the season rolls around, those who have completed the [100] (arbitrary) evaluation games get seeded based on their winrate during those games, and those who didn’t complete [100] (arbitrary) evaluation games could be allowed to participate but at some sort of seeding penalty.
Here are some reasons why this change could be beneficial:
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Every account would have equal opportunity to achieve good seeding, because poor early career stats wouldn’t weigh down on the seeding (as they currently do).
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Having an evaluation phase would encourage active gameplay since players would be unable to float their entire career’s seeding on what is effectively one evaluation right now (after getting good stats, players no longer have to play the game to have good seeding. Thus, if a bad player buys a good account in the current seeding state, they can keep that good seeding despite being a bad player. If every season required an evaluation phase, bad players who buy good accounts would no longer be able to benefit, since they would have to play.
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Taking into consideration reason 1, listed above, this could help negate some of the account selling that everyone knows takes place. There would be no reason to buy an account that has high tier 10 career winrate if the measurement of the qualifying [100] (arbitrary) games would be required on all accounts to be eligible to play without a seeding penalty. It would also be implausible for someone to farm stats on accounts they intend to sell as well as their own account if they were planning to play {due to the time required to play [100] (arbitrary) games}, which further limits the possibilities of account-selling networks for the purposes of gaining a competitive advantage (although it would not completely eliminate it).
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This solves the issue of unweighted winrates that has been seen in previous seasons, because the evaluation period would be the same weight for every player, as opposed to how it currently is, where high winrate over a short period is rewarded, yet slightly lower winrate over a much longer period has the same weight, e.g. 70% over 1000 games is more valuable for seeding than 65% over 20,000 games, despite the 65% over 20,000 games being much more difficult and impressive to achieve.
A possible penalty for not completing [100] (arbitrary) games would be to assume every unplayed evaluation game will be a loss. So if a player has won 20 of 40 games, and the evaluation was out of 100 games, the player would have a 20/100= 20% seeding winrate. A player who has won 70/90 games would receive a 70/100= 70% seeding winrate. In the case a player has played no tier 10 evaluation games but still wants to play, the would be seeded with a 0/100=0% seeding winrate.
Deciding tournament seeding off random games is a pretty non-functioning idea to start with, they are just too different to get any good meaning between them
Maybe there is commercial interest in buffing rerolls
They wouldn’t admit that I don’t think, but any refusal to change something about how seeding functions definitely leads back to this inference
Alot of writing
A lot of writing no ones gonna read
where tldr
tldr he’s saying wg should make us play “qualifying games” every season and take that wr for seeding instead of our career tier 10 winrate…
The seeding was in fact changed in order to combat re-rolls & 100% WR accounts. Yes there is an argument that someone with a career wr of 55% after 100k battles could be disadvantaged against someone with 6k battles & 70% wr. Thing is making it a random 100 games doesnt actually help, because players will just spam tanks like the 50B or something. Not only that, but some servers still have the newbie MM, so again rolling out with less than say 3k battles will put a re-roll up against new players and their wr will still look awesome in any event.
Personally I dont think it would work, plus the top teams teams know who the 'best players' are and regardless of career stats they will still grab them.
To obtain a truly unbais WR seeding a move towards clan seeding based on clan performance would be best. That however also carries with it massive problems, especially with new clans. Not saying the system currently is the best, but it is certainly better than what we had previously
rolling 1000 battle WR at tier 10 could be decent
bo3
I didn’t think “newbie MM” applied to tier 10 at all. Is that not true? If it really isn’t true, then that’s an even bigger problem that helps re-rolls. There should not be newbie matchmaking at tier 10.
Why would there be an issue if someone played one specific tank? I think that it’s the same way right now. Someone could play 1000 games in 50B or whatever they want, but the difference is that with the current plan, once they get that 75% or whatever, they just get to keep it forever.
Eventually, if the competitive scene were to grow enough on small servers (so maybe this would work on the EU and/or CIS servers), there could be a separate gamemode where players only face other players who are also completing their qualifying games. That would be a very cool demonstration of actual skill because the best players would keep their usual high winrates but some of the players who have high winrates now would lose to those best players. I think there would be greater stratification in seeding if it was done like this. But obviously this wouldn’t work on low-participation servers like NA or APAC just yet.
objection your honour
The basis of your objection? 😂
Why cant we just use like last 100 game wr. Theres alr a system where u can check ur own last100 game on blitz website. They can easily Change it and filter tier 10 only.
sustained.
Upon reconsideration when you and I last discussed this, it would actually probably lead to a lot more sold accounts if it was done this way. Imagine the best player on each team plays the last 100 games on each of the team’s accounts before the season starts. That wouldn’t be good. 😂 I think it has to be a little more restricting. Otherwise there’s definitely people who would abuse the system to gain a competitive advantage. And the solution to this problem is to have the set of games be during a specific time frame, at least I think. The potential for sold accounts would decrease.
hey…
Jesus people still complaining about seeding 🤦♂️
Just win ur games
Well because it remains an issue, can't be surprised tbh even if repetitive
yeah just ask anyone from purpl
I got a proposition, win your games and stop crying
📠
No tears are being shed. A civil conversation is being had.
I’d say something about a reverse sweep but I wouldn’t want to start anything.
LOL
💀
Your team was in Challengers
His team barely got into challengers*
For playing at an amusement park I’d take the tie breaker all day. Plus you’re in the little boy leagues id suggest you stay and speak in that jungle.
The bought account strategy still outperformed 20 other teams 😎 (it’s about efficiency)
😤
very efficient
Well you see, we had to lower everyone else’s expectations before we dropped the fat bomb on the last qualifier to solidify challengers.
Your profile pic has a blitzcup avatar lmao you’ve never even participated in blitzcup 🤣 you a fan brodie
🤯
@harsh quail where is your challengers avatar, kid.
🦍
They beat 2 teams in qualifiers as opposed to the 1 they normally were
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I mean we took a game off pramo. That was more than PURPL could do and they were top 8. I don’t see your point. We were dropping all sorts of bombs (metaphorically).
You wouldn’t have won a singular game in pros period. Maybe because of an ammorack, nonetheless not a legit game.
And you then dropped multiple sets to lower echelon teams
Nox is OP tho 🗿
🗿 🗿 🗿
💀
We beat ELEV and BLM in cups, both of which were strong teams.
🤣🥴
You’re talented you took a game off pramo 👺👺👺👺
Who cares about cups if through the entire season you didnt beat a single challengers team (the tournament you were in btw)
Don’t worry, all the promises of CEASE top 8 will come to fruition in summer. Droodles is back with mad passion. We will not fail.
😐
we will all be waiting for cease's epic comeback, trust
seeding would not have changed top 8
Honestly METRO should’ve been top 8 over PURPL. They’d at least pull games. With the changes coming to 50B, those aggro strats will be even better.
😐
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not regi? they did win challengers after all. if anything thats the team that was closest to top 8
Droodles will be back with full passion for JKR not your jungler team
no, REGI is a terrible clan, METRO threw obv thats why they didnt win Challengers
Honestly the games REGI lost were pretty sad. Apelike, even. I’m glad to see they at least figured something out in the end.
Yeah i enjoyed when metro drove all their lights through the long open field spotted the mark of a top 8 team
I find it very efficient!
Firstly what you are suggesting is to introduce something into the game that only really applies to the top 5% overall. Secondly newbie MM is based on amount of battles, not tier. Not that newbie MM actually works, because it also works on the queue system in any event. Thirdly, it wont stop re-rolls.
Personally I dont understand what the huge problem is with re-rolls. Yes 100% wr accounts was an issue, so the seeding in that respect was changed in order to ensure that such acc's dont give such an advantage. If a player decides to re-roll and after their 1000 battles, which is now the cut off for the seeding, they have 80% wr then fair play to them. Then you have the 'selling' of spots'. Changing the seeding wont alter that 1 little bit. Those clans that sell spots will still sell them, you think they care about seeding? And what effect does seeding have on top 8, which is where spots are sold, well I can tell no impact at all.
Im not saying the system is perfect, because no system is, but at the end of the day the top 8's across all servers were not unexpected and certainly no team got to top 8 based on seeding bias or whatever you want to call it, well not imho.
We are Apes, so it makes alot of sense
I was referring to the sales of individual accounts. The changes I proposed to seeding would indeed deter the selling of individual accounts per the reasons stated above. Selling spots on teams is a mutually exclusive issue, I agree, but selling actual accounts for the purpose of gaining a competitive advantage could at least be slowed.
i never knew whales had legs!!
mods!
I can't wait for my favorite streamer Dunk244's Summer predictions!!!
yet blm still clapped ur team 😳
no predictions sorry @silk thistle
:<
cease top 8 xd
Got any dunk strats prepared?
huh i don’t play comp anymore @fickle thicket
Why do u talk like ur in a movie?
What's a BLM lmao
Anyone want to join a tournament
Me
dunk u should make a video of this when it blows up in his face
I’m still waiting on him to repost the challenger moments video 😢
I like dunk244s streams
they copyrighted the spongebob music:(
Change music ez !!! Or no music!!
Lol ikr
no clue sounds like a bad time tho
I heard the team captain plays clash of clans in the middle of tournaments
i heard the team captain blocked his players on the discord app for saying “hey daddy” in his dms
I heard he has multiple clash of clans accounts and is bad at attacking in war!
@harsh quail @silver beacon @sinful crest @rocky crystal @summer ibex @novel yoke @proud holly @rare trellis, apologies to everyone, this isn’t my account. Someone is trying to impersonate me and if this account said anything offensive, I apologize
I knew u weren't the type of person to say that 🙏 ur a good person
^
❤️🔥 if anyone tries to impersonate me just remember my # at the end of my username is #5952
Thank you for handling this in a good manner. I hope the drama surrounding CEASE because of that impersonator will go away soon 🙏
🗿🗿🗿
Was gonna say somethin looked off 💀
❤️🔥
i’ll be honest it was me
Predictable
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???????
🤦♂️
blitz official moment
I believe he said a bad word.
10/10 moderation
Maybe if you report whoever is responsible instead of spamming like monkeys moderators can ban correct one.
OverWeightToxicRatWaste#8125. This is the fake one. The real one didn’t do anything wrong
Cringe
Sheeeeesh Derpy is on the frontlines rn
rekt#1379 was muted
Wow
Thx
Further spamming random emojis will get you muted from now on. Decide for yourself.
Guys the mean person is gone.
Juanito saved the day its alright
Can we just get the Juanito guy a mod role already? He’s a hero.
I like moderator
N.Z.#1459 was muted
wow everyone is getting muted 😢
Facts keep down they're gonna getcha
Is Mod here? If not, I can type here finally
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why this lose?
dmg
bruh
Question, when it comes to seeding are only the highest 7 players (by tier 10 wr) counted?
I believe so
its obv the bottom 7 wr
Yes
Ty
Can i get my blitz cup package
Sorry no.
I wonder what he’s planning
@worn juniper emulator
Yes always
I can resell my blitz cup package, dm me
Can I please slide in your dms
Yes babe
2 ipads
Deal
📄 top 8 🤔
guys
I’ve just been informed that REGI rigged.
_M1sCl1cked strikes again
I have had much information from a certain player that regi uses reroll accounts and rigs because they have premiums. This news devastates me as I was the number 1 fan of Regicide and as it turns out even my friend @rose haven was a part of the rigging. Pease look into this issue since they have been uncovered to rigg thanks
Sorry we had 2 rerolls that didn’t even contribute to the overall win rate. That means we rigged 😡😡😡
Also Juanito doesn’t lie
Waiting for you guys:) Eu, tier 10 quick tournament
Will we get banned if we will win against you ?
ahaha, yes of course )
😄
WG preparing for summer season 😎
Y’all should run a team during PYS, would be cool to watch. Maybe even live stream games? 😊
We are little bit toxic for live stream :)))
Epic comeback on Middleburg! Specially for our Discord
gonna break out the speedhacks
Dayum, still waiting for the day we find devs on NA tourneys lol
We will come 🙂 we should only find a perfect date and time with you:) And I think we will make announcement here like for a community event 🍋
That'd be really cool
something like that would be awesome
wg ain’t ready for the fearsome NA clans such as mex-1
They better watch out for MYSTC
For some reason NA sleeps on XWING and DLA, I see them as upcoming talent ready to sweep the North American scene.
I think we both know somebody who’s had troubles with the D-LA clan.
Oh boi
Hello all.
We go jim
JIM
i think DLA will 9-0 pramo
Whomst summoned the allmighty one?
I think FOGSX has a better chance!
I think RIVAL will beat everyone joke
hmmm
when is next tournament season?
Tomorrow
how do you know?
I secretly work for wg
K
He’s trolling. The next season usually happens late June or early July. Hopefully that helps 🙂
Thanks for letting me kno
POV: Getting 14 Day mute for “Trolling” 😁
YES agreed
I cant breathe
K
So June has come What's news for upcoming tour
why are no future tournaments showing up in the game? I see ones from 5/30 but those never showed up in future one to join. anybody else?
I also didn’t have any showing up. It could mean the update is very close.
I should’ve mentioned earlier but they usually don’t show tournaments more than like 2 days in advance unless it’s competitive tournaments or like season coins (tournaments you register for). So yeah today, tomorrow’s 3v3s finally popped up in the “Future Tournaments” tab.
still too early to know something
Haha Facts
yes 😦
But I guess not a lot is missing
Those are the reactions that will replace the military honor system in the upcoming update. The duck is sociable player, fist is team player, bicep is effective player, the punctuation spam is like you’re mad at them I think, 4-leaf clover is obviously lucky player, fists bumping is worthy opponent.
Write this the next time you cry looking for gaming activities.
If you don't want to participate, no one cares.
bro, I'm really glad that there are gaming activities besides the official ones. Keep your opinion to yourselfyourself
very fierce
should we just dm you?
How is that a tournament tho
just a friendly comp i presume. still a tournament, just not a very competitive one
Competition =/= Tournament
L + mald + cope
Does anyone knows 9.1 is before summer or after summer? Since wg says 9.1 will be rebalance all tier10 and meta will be totally different.
Yeah, nice question
any new bundles for coins coming soon?
will probably be before, videos about the next patch are usually released just a handful of weeks in advance, expecting the update to hit in like 2 weeks or something, ah wait 9.1? nah prob mid or after end of season, tho I'd hope it's after the season, there's been quite a few occasions where new balance changes that shifted meta were released between qualifiers and the final tournaments
Next week will come out 9.0 with type71. So 9.1 will be like middle of July. Just middle of summer season. btw pys tour and professional tour.
considering we're expecting 9.0 currently at the start of june, and updates are currently 1 month apart, and summer season begins late june, we should probably get 9.1 mid july
@worn juniper July
It'll probably drop mid season like 60tp 
I'm enjoying the Gaming event so far I do wish battle passes were a little cheaper like 1.99$
summer season probably won't start until July
What is, or where do i find the June schedule for all tournaments?
It's prob just going to be "off-season" tournaments, i don't think they released anything official yet
askers?
Hello not 4x champ lol!!!!!
chat this guys goofy 🤣
this synergy guy is a furry btw
4x in what lol
Rip ribble
Yea bUt let's hope WG put some interesting Tour this month too
realistic tour
Replace 3v3s with 7v7s. 1 a week isn’t enough
@scenic thorn I saw that
I saw the emulator in the steam. Just to warn you: that's not fair for other cw players 👍🏻
k
yes
Its nothing new
Find a good team at your level to scrimmage against 👍
Tru, but scrims don’t give you creds
The skills you gain in scrims though, will 😉
rolling get 7 ppl to scrim us???
No
Oh 😦
will u be streaming summer szn??? Na streamers seem to have been declining in size 😦
Unlikely. Timezone is a killer for me. I might be able to do one evening of semis or quarter finals. Maybe. Definitely not regular NA coverage.
fishy is having PC issues
We are using T6 for the 7vs7 Tournament, Im looking for players, 300 Battles, 40 battle rating, Must have a T6, ARL or KV-1s is Preferred (Friend Hitman_753 and say you want to join the Team
I think your server has a bunch of youtubers who are pros. Maybe encouraging them to stream live whenever they are free will solve
@dusk lantern is an emulator player
@scenic thorn u r not alone

You'll never walk alone 
i will stream summer if offered
Eshkere
take the aiming change feedback to #984066309325205584
I used to play very tournament
Wow that’s quite amazing to know however,
i agree
Anyone wanna play tier X 3v3 tonight?
Heyo. I read the post of upcoming tournaments and I just wanted to get confirmed that there will be no Season, or other tournament like money blaster this summer, or will some news about that follow soon?
they don’t announce seasons until like a few days before it’s going to start. more info on a summer season will come near the end of June most likely
Ah ok thx m8
Hello @opaque heart can u confirm that there is no summer season?
We will share some tournament info at the end of June.
Thanks for the quick reply
I guess the Majority isn’t the Majority then :>
still healing from summer 2021
Feel u
interesting
when are tournaments starting?
@opaque heart tolyanich how many legionary can be in the team
Is it too much to ask if there will be any major summer season at all in 2022? To know to continue or stop trainings
Yes…
Just use quali tournaments as trainings🤯
He means players from other servers. It's like mercenaries 
Yes @opaque heart just to know if we are wasting our time 🤷🏼♂️
Especially for who is a student and has exams.
Well i dont see a point to train right now 🤣
study and practice for course exam.
practice for mobile game tournament atm is boo
How is tournaments going? I haven’t played in a while. I need all the details.
when is summer season?
@marble oyster
i want pro camouflage. cyber camo. @hallow raptor i suck at new aiming. but i want tournament 🥲 summer season tournament has camo reward?
:/
bob
@opaque heart толян, я понимаю что ты там наверное жесть как заработался (нет), но думаю супер было бы ответить
it’s always been 2
@fast echo #tourneys-discussion message
Ty
Still no update for ua on cis server? …
Do you know that you have to speak English on this server?
Do you know that tolyan is Russian?
I guess I don’t care
Well you should, just fyi
I will definitely listen to the words of the green-stat expert. if Tolyan was on the blitz cup server, I would definitely write to him there, but, fortunately, the moderators on the ru-server are not people 😦
++++
anynone wanna play the V-VI tournament with me
Mate Im just asking you to follow this simple rule which you didn't:
"Official server language is English. Using other languages in public channels is unacceptable."
Saying I don't care doesn't make sense
Mini mod in the chat

eventually you may
bottom line is that while WG employees here may be from Russian speaking countries and speak Russian, everyone still must speak English here. thats the whole point of this server
got question in tourny shows team it never stated got notification on garage screen in et time zone that whuy ?
got last minute room N A server U S A Tankers
what tier?
We use English too as u see. Dura lex sed lex.
Hello Tolyan, so do we have a season this summer?
Bruh, how many ppl gonna ask until we realize they gonna release the information at the end of the month like they said they would…
when am i getting my blitz cup package? 😢
though i seen there wa s a monday 14 th 7vs 7 tourny was on sunday night tried get in 2vs 2 tourny when i thought i saw it or maby to many cold ones lol
I'm looking to do a level 8 tournament
How i can enter in team of tournament?
I need invitation?
Tier 8 team needs few more ppl to join. Team name is 7 newbs
They should at least let us know if there is gonna be a season or something similar to Money Blaster
@timber obsidian #tourneys-team-search
I wish WG could give some info about the new season ...
Stay tuned for information at the end of June.
I want 7vs7 tournaments, these 2vs2 and 3vs3 are trash. Is it so WG that you didn’t listen the comments of seeding and lower brackets? Now the low wr teams which lost always 1st round, are away from tournaments and WG had to make smaller tournaments.
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Oh god, things happened here
That's a x19 combo
That probably is not the smartest thing post in this channel 😉
But I understand the expression.
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A friendly reminder to keep this channel on topic.
You have the presence of staff and other motivated players here, so keep the channel free of random chatter, images, stat flexing, insults, personal attacks, emoji spam, etc.
If there is limited news, or there is still time until the next tournament; that doesn't entitle you or anybody to turn this channel into the equivalent of some anything goes general chat.
Keep it ON TOPIC.
Keep it classy and make this channel enjoyable for all.
wao
You said personal attacks twice lol, must be very important
Thank you @hollow fiber for all your hard work for keeping this channel on topic and clean. 
Thank you.
Somebody kept arguing about his 3day mute in the background ... 😉
When am i getting my blitz cup package?
this is still wrong. It shows gold instead of coin
I can’t wait till summer season 2022 starts!!! It’ll be so much fun!!!
thank you moderators for keeping those hooligans in check 
Hey don’t attack my boy Juanito. He is a real one ☝️
i fail to see how the chat can be on topic when there are no tournaments to talk about because wg refuse to release info about summer season
See this is where an " on topic " channel helps, without all the riff raff ...
Staff just posted.
But people would not know it, because of all the bored posting, etc etc etc
A friendly reminder to keep this channel on topic.
You have the presence of staff and other motivated players here, so keep the channel free of random chatter, images, stat flexing, insults, personal attacks, emoji spam, etc.
If there is limited news, or there is still time until the next tournament; that doesn't entitle you or anybody to turn this channel into the equivalent of some anything goes general chat.
Keep it ON TOPIC.
Keep it classy and make this channel enjoyable for all.
Tournaments are fun.
Is it that hard to say if there will or won’t be a summer season? Or maybe there will be Money Blaster? Or maybe nothing at all and just Coins Tours, many teams are wasting their time with trainings (cringe) and you can’t even answer to your community and only thing which you mods are able to do is to mute.
Why are u guys liked this every season. WG has always released info a week or so before the season starts. Be patient
Are you familiar with a certain platter rules
Exactly that’s the problem
Is it that hard to wait till the end of this month? Like i wouldn't say anything if wg guys were completely silent, but they clearly stated that the info will come➡️
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Don't be so negative. The staff comment seems to indicate to me that there will be a summer season, and that there will be an announcement quite soon. These are not just like setting up a battle in a training room between two teams. Maybe they have a few final details to work out.
And your team is wasting its time with training? Come on now.
Imagine training on patch which wont be played in summer season (assuming there will be one)
I think Wargaming may release the tier 10 rebalancing update 9.1 right before Blitz Cup. That would suck a lot. I wonder if the IS7 is still meta after the release of the Type. Hmmmm.
Yes it is , IS7 is better for CW than type
The type is going to be spammed a lot because it’s new but it will be a mainstay like the 60tp and is7 and 100lt, come fall wging will murder the meta again though and we’ll probably get something stupid that is boring to play and watch
Oh no. I think the meta is pretty interesting now. We have 8 HT mainstays (60TP, IS7, Maus, VK72, Yoh, 50B, VK90, and Type) That’s awesome! We also have 2 LT mainstays too.
The meta rn is not interesting at all if you are plying it. Maus is irrelevant, vickers is rarely played it’s repetitive and boring. Is7, 60tp, and type are all basically the same style of tank and how you run it there isn’t much fun. Last season it was 4 lts and whoever won the lt fight won the game. It’s far from interesting
The meta right now is literally the most boring its ever been, its good that its gonna be completely shaken up by 9.1
Playing lights isnt boring, how dare u say that when we had an e5-kran meta lmao
It was way worse
In his (and my) server there’s usually 2 lights per game apart from a select few teams that sometimes run 4-5, the rest is always 60TPs and IS7s every game without fail
I see. I still prefer tp and is7 over kran and e5 camping but thats my own opinion
I prefer getting ammoracked in my 60tp and alfar bouncing my 50b (he is nob)
Bouncing a 50b? Hahahaha never man 🥲
Hey Voon! What about ID running the IS4 on New Bay? I think they were trolling. Hmmmm. The IS4 is definitely not meta right?
I still have nightmares of a 50b one shot bounced
well they were playing against us in that matchup so probably trolling but IS-4 is still a somewhat viable option
I see. Thanks!
Interesting opinion 
lol. Wait till an NA or Asia comp team reach the Twister Cup Finals of 2023 or 2024. 😄 I wonder if the FV215B will become meta again after update 9.1. Hmmmm.
Depends, bps did start pretty early iirc
And playing lt doesnt make u better anyway so who cares if someone started 1st or 2nd or smth else. Its impossible to compare the lvl of every serv now so no need to argue abt that yet -_-
I wonder if there would ever be Uprising, Big Boss, and/or Gravity tournaments? Would it be an interesting idea?
Interesting links
Can you click on it to make sure its not a scam
Amogus links above
Rgn from NA got to the finals in 2019, so technically in the most recent twister cup NA ranked 2nd 👀
Sadly no
Yeah! 😄 I don’t understand the server superiority theory. It shouldn’t be discussed at all. Lol.
@novel bay hi
@novel bay
stop pinging a muted person they cant respond
Ищу команду на сегодняшний турнир, 10 уровень)
Говори здесь только на английском пожалуйста
@steel shell ok
@cedar parrot
GrilleGirlsBOY?
Well WG has been informed of the issue. We will let you know if there is an update
2v3 game from my friend
what? 2v2 tourney and this happens
WG has been informed about the ongoing issue. We will let you know if there are any updates regarding the issue
I hope they would give compensation to the players that has experienced this issue
Ok wg. Very funni.
where can i find tournament regulations?
Is it over
Btw How much coins do u guys think cost for the Super pershing
Bro the tour was a steamroll the moment I stepped in
50k credits as compensation
out of anything one can ask for, you fr chose something that you can get with one match
you didnt get it but its understandable after seeing your opinion about new auto aim
Sarcasm isn't the first thing that crosses my mind after reading dumb statements due to witnessing what this server is capable of
The new auto aim handles
Where can I find if my team has more matches in this tournament?
Anyone wanna hop into Birthday coins with me tonight?
Thx 4 help
Youre welcome
Bruh wg, it’s meant to be a 2v2 tournament
Hey me and my team did not receive the 1st place award credits and coins yes , gold no?
We did not receive the gold
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Please do not ping chat moderators for these things.
But I am trying to inform staff on your behalf.
@thorn shale 0 Remember it sometimes takes time for rewards to be given.
Don’t sweat it unless several days go by
Yes, I know. We got coins and credits, but we didn't get gold
with the fact that we got coins and credits right after the tournament
first place and we did not receive gold I feel cheated !!! 😡
It supposed to be be coins, not gold. So you did get what you deserve. @thorn shale @mossy copper
From time to time they failed to put right image there, check this: https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/613/description/
What are the moderators here supposed to do about it? We are players, we are not Wargaming. If you have an issue you need to submit a ticket to the support site.
I expected it 🤣
@thorn shale Yes, I know, I have been redirected here, so I turn to the admin or employee
And yet you still pinged us 🙄
..... i think i found your problem. as GODium explained. you are not supposed to get gold. you are supposed to receive tournament coins
so in either case whoever you contact. you will get the same answer. you aren't supposed to get gold
So much was the update and it's still unchanged?
Change the icon other player also seas to write about it
Wargaming workers change this icon
GODium just explained to you. its a mistake
besides the description tells you the tournament contains coins as a reward
Maybe read the description?
Guys they meant to show coins not gold it's not a hard concept to grasp
<@&481447501690568709> Emoji spam is back
Hey, that isnt tournament related, can they get muted?
You can receive only coins and credits in Coin tournaments
Hello, please write to the support center, you will be given compensation
We are near the end of the month Tolyan:))
I am very eager for the new season info
Me too...
🙏
New season info important for streamers also. Schedules need planning.
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💙
New comp meta going to be really interesting after Update 9.1. However, many tanks won't be as unique nor as fun as before.
I agree
@thorn shale 💀
If nothing happens it’d be a lot of time wasted for some ig
WG has a nice tradition to change tank characteristics from the historical ones, nice “historical ” game WG keep changing everything to how ever you want to and please keep adding more Vindicator type tanks this make the game even more historical. 🤡
Historical part left the game 5-6years ago i have no idea why people still believe this is some advanced tank simulator. Just a regular arcade game that brings you some fun. After playing same tank over and over again makes the fun less. I think its great way to play same tanks but different. Yes some changes are "weird" but overall its great to "rebalance" whole tier and have different experiences. Random,Rated, Tournaments doesn't matter tier X will feel different and thats a good thing. Hopefully tier 8 changes too since that tier is overcrowded with premium copy/paste tanks.
+1
Speak 🗣️ 🗣️
NA ign flexsphincter1 ,for tourny
I heard @harsh quail is making a tourney team. You could DM him probably 👍🏻
Do not dm me
If you want to play some realistic game of tanks then go play WT lol
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Historical lol I know of no tank that ever existed that if the track was broken you pressed a button and instant retrack. In real life mending tracks takes ages and I mean ages to sort out. In real life the Hetzer would be facing the likes of the IS3 and many Tier X tanks never existed. This was never a tank sim or a truly historical game, but an acarade game with a slant towards history of pre-modern warfare tanks (lets not mention the Chieftain Mk6 lol)
Guys I did not understand the information in #coming-soon , is Alexandra saying that the next update will only be about new graphics etc and there won’t be those balance changes and they will do those balance changes very later?
I think it just means they don’t release the update on the stores anymore, but you download it ingame. Kind of confusing wording but they’re not stopping the balance changes and new pbr reworks
it means that next update will not have any new features mainly just balance changes so the update will be updated in the game and not from store for that specific update
You mean there will still be changes on 50 tanks stats or not ?
of course
when the changes happen, they won't be rolled out in an update you have to get from an app store
the game will automatically update
change in stats = balance changes
Oh man, I hope they won’t do it in the middle of season…
it has to happen in the middle of a season
assuming Summer Season does happen
9.1 will probably come out in like 2-3 weeks, if it follows a normal release schedule. 9.0's already been out for 3 weeks. the longest an update has lasted is like 7 weeks
i doubt the summer season will even start by the time that 9.1 comes out. but if it comes out, the ending championship tournaments are almost certainly going to be in 9.1
@muted ore @opaque heart in this case, can you guys postpone one of them, I don’t think any of the tournament teams wants a big update which is changing everything in game happen in the middle of the season. We are making trainings and preparing tactics with the current meta but with those balance changes it’s obvious that meta is going to change. In this situation all of the time we spent on training battles and preparing tactics are going to trash which is not good for us.
To adapt a situation first you need to see the situation and need some time, don’t you? We do trainings with the same reason, to adopt situations. But when 50 tanks are being changed, how can we have idea about what’s going on and What should we do? If the update will be in middle of season we will probably have 1 or maybe 2 days for training. In those trainings, which of the 50 tanks - sorry Lets say we agreed that 30 of tanks doesn’t need to be tried and agree they are still bad and so we have 20 tanks left - will you try there? In 2 trainings maximum. There will be absolute chaos, and tournaments are the top level of this game so we must Show something good there, without being “adopted”, how can we do that ?
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IMO, if WG releases the update in the middle of the season, it will be such a nice challenge for everyone and I m sure it can make comp scene pretty interesting
Basically the team that can adapt to these changes and balances, will be the winner
no, just no, it's just dumb that you'd have to scramble like crazy, to test the new meta, see what works best and then make strats for every map, then get used to the meta in the middle of a season, where we prob already play 3-4 evenings a week for 2 hours or something, like seriously, last thing we need is the other evenings to be filled in with a bunch of trainings trying to find the meta
As I said, tournament is the top level of this game. It shouldn’t be about who adopt first but should be about who plays better when everyone are adopted.
We don't make major changes during the tournament. But we can do them before or after 🙂
👍
thank you, 🙏
I bet you don’t know anything about tournaments
If they make changes to the meta, everyone is in the same boat, so adapting to change quickly and effectively becomes a more important skill that’ll help teams win
It is ok to disagree on something, but don’t be disagreeable and start drama … @worn juniper
Yes I’m stijn577
Stijn didn’t said you will need to test every single tank, now is your knowledge also questionable?
who is stijn577
Idk
I believe the way how he disagree on a thing is more important than if he disagree or not. My reaction is to the way how he disagree
Like 4 days before an international offline
Plenty of time
First of all, you are directly giving a personal comment to stijn’s message by saying “I have bad news for you”. And then you are crying about my comment being very personal for you. I checked your account and I saw you are not a part of this competition, while stijn is. When you don’t know anything about a guy, how can you make such a comment? And since you are not a part of this tournament and competition, how do you know how much time good teams need to adopt?
Second, if you are going to say that I’m actually wrong and you are another guy in game, then “please use your actual nickname” on discord too so that I won’t have a confusion like that.
Third, Stijn didn’t said good teams need to test every single tank, the message before him that was sent by me said we will need to test too many tanks. You are speaking about reading the correct data. Can you Show me the correct data then? Since we don’t have something else than data sent by WG and it says 50 tanks will get buffs and nerfs. In this situation there are tanks to be tested again in competition. I can tell you every tank that my team is interested in testing and you will see that it’s 15+. And to test those, we would have only 1-2 ok maybe 3 or okay maximum 4 days if WG would make the update in tournament season. How are you expecting teams to test all those tanks in this small period of time considering in 1 training we usually play only 6 maps = 12 games, tho 50% of the games are going to trash because one of the teams making a mistake and the result is giving a missleading information to us.
Lastly, i’m not stijn man…
Bro we are talking in a public channel, by your Logic, you shouldn’t replied to stijn too because he was talking with someone else…
For the part “do you really need to be a part of a tournament team to know stuff about tournament teams”, I say yes. You need to be. We sacrifice from our time and play trainings for 2 hours at nights. We play the tournaments and we know how the tournament scene is. When we know how much time we spend on these things and you don’t know how much time we spend on these things, you can not say “you don’t need that much time to adopt”. Because you don’t know. Although the things you write are a proof that you really don’t know something man sorry.
We see here something being bad for us, and we complain about it to WG. Me or stijn, or someone else, did not messaged to you. Why do you join us and talk then?
Don’t take me wrong, I don’t tell you to shut up as you did to me because we don’t message to you, but just saying we are in a public channel and everyone can talk about anything, it’s the normal.
For the last paragraph, man you said that you know about tournaments, then answer me, when did you saw a good team doing the same tactic at all maps? For example, is there a team who is playing for med side always? Or a team who is playing very deffensive always? No i don’t think so..
Okay man, have a good day if you are leaving like this.
Nice essay
Lol, it was a discussion with @tired sapphire but he deleted 🤷♂️
honestly i think that even if the update is in the middle of the season, you dont need to be worried at all. Who cares that 50 tanks get rebalanced, you can just pick the tanks you think are better for each map with different lineups@worn juniper
Pfff toni i dont want to repeat myself for you
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Well.. Im more interested about when summer season start.
I hope wg consider a little with fv215b on the OT. Bring back all old state and 170pen HE, as compensation 215b only pay a little hull front upper armor and still can't pen if well angled)
Exactly lmao
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Lmao nice channel
2 type 71 4 60tp 100lt and you win, what’s the matter
@thorn shale hi
Unspeakable 😂😂🤣
T100 and 60tp getting nerf
What happened here?
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Are mixed control professional tournaments a possibility? Coz I wanna play competitively but the friends that I play with regularly and most in my clan are PC players. Let’s face it, there’s more PC players in the game than touch, hence why same control mode queues take so long. Plus right now the tournament scene (at least for APAC) is so stale, same players, same teams. There will probably be an uproar amongst the touch community if WG does change it to mixed controls. But most really good touch players can hold their own against PC players anyways.
Continuing the tradition of someone asking for pc in comp every season 

im not opposed to a pc comp scene but i also dont really care so
If wg wants to do it they’ll do it, our opinions here mean nothing lol
if there’s no Twister Cup this year, offlines are really dead. and in that case, there really is no meaningful reason for comp to limited to touch only
of course they are in their rights to make any regulations they want, but that’s the only reason the rule has made sense
Well no, there are some plausible reasons. Again, i dont really care either way, but I offer what I believe is the explanation for it.
While the skill ceiling of the comp scene would change very little if at all, the skill floor is drastically lowered, tour skills that are difficult to develop in mobile are generally much easier to do in pc. For example, lt brawling and hit and runs are made easier because of off screen auto aim lock on, in mobile you’ll have to be keeping your entire screen on the guy, and this tends to result in crashing into other tanks/buildings which gets you killed or bled
For heavy brawling, you are more aware of your surroundings because its generally more comfortable - not easier - to look around and move for hp share or low targets, its not any much requiring of skill to do this, its just simply more comfortable to do it on pc.
In addition to selective scoping and the mostly agreed upon easier-to-aim on pc, pc in general as I’ve shown is just way more comfortable/easier to play tours on, introducing pc into mobile would eradicate most mobile players save for the extremely experienced ones, to get that competitive advantage.
I will not use the preference explanation, and admittedly it is very difficult to find a logically valid reason as to why wg is not considering a pc scene, the best one i can think of is wg wanting to have firm grips on multiple platforms at the same time, mobile comp is becoming increasingly popular (ever so slowly), by creating a pc comp scene wg looses hold on mobile players and denies them this market. A separate coexisting pc league might make sense, that has its pro events like twister at different times to avoid splitting viewership, but I think wg just doesn’t spare the effort to create a separate scene
True. More players will switch to pc and it will eventually become all pc if u want to play competitively.
I asked coz I wanted to play with my pc friends. We play quick tours and season coins together. Would be nice to play comp together as well. Hope WG finds a better solution.
Best solution is buy an touch device 👀🤯
@ebon goblet dm
I switched from pc on touch. But I can’t force them to play on touch.
If you and your friends don’t know how to play touch it’s their problem. This is a mobile game and the Season Tournaments will only be on touch. If you don’t have enough capacity to understand why I will tell you. Fair play
Just asking…. Don’t know why ur so triggered. As I said I play touch. Since I play a lot with them, would be nice if there could be a compromise whereby both controls can play together.
No it would be not nice
Welp he’s no fun to talk with…. Don’t know why gotta talk in such condescending way
Separate PC comp scene would be nice, not touch and PC together
this would split a small compscene into 2 even smaller compscenes and wouldn’t make it competitive anymore. Same as playing randoms in the end
If someone is too bad for tours on wot PC it doesnt work like that he will be good in wot blitz tours on PC, If wg add PC comp tours, players from wot PC will come here just to farm wot blitz PC tours
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Keep pc out of comp pls thx
Pc comp lul
Agree with ernezd
Tbh, I think muting @rose haven was a great investment for this server and that he should permanently be muted and should never be able to talk again 
'do you guys not have phones?'
I play on my phone. But they only play on PC. They play like a bot on phone 🤣
Anyway, im just poking to see if there are people with the same idea and read everyone’s opinions about it.
tbh mixed comp scene would be more like pc come scene because the benefits of of pc outweighs the benefits of mobile, pc is just flat out better.
wg fr waiting to june 30 for “end of june” summer season announcement
chill. its weekend
Tomorrow is Monday so maybe we will have fresh news
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Hello gais
this channer is... Interesting I may say I could see a lot of people getting muted
us tour players greatly enjoy torture
I have never been muted before.
Youre just a very respectful blitzer
Let's wish @opaque heart happiest b-day! 🎉
Uhh So the T26E4 will be available After 2 Hour?
Happy Birthday 🎉 Tolyan! 🎉
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday 🍰 !
oh, thanks a lot! ❤️
Happy birthday Tolyan!
Happy birthday Tolyan 🥳
Happy birthday Tolyan🎉
Happy Bday
Happy bday ❤️❤️
Happy birthday 💙
Happy birthday 😎
I think u should watch the stream today 😏
The surprise we all been waiting for
yes
Money big simp
Anyway happy birthday from me too

@opaque heart happy birthday, have a nice day❤️
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Happy B-Day 🏆Tolyan🏆
Happy birthday 🎂🎂🎉
Happy birthday Tolyan 🎂
@opaque heart happy birthday 🎈
Today I sold my is7 and i got 2 mil credits, it isn’t fair
@opaque heart happy bday🥳 was hoping to meet some WG devs at tenkfest yesterday but couldnt cus u didnt stream on the stage behind the gaming zone 😦
we didn't get visas (yet ahaha)
@opaque heart s dr bro nadeus’ prizovie pridut skoro 😮💨😮💨😮💨
@maiden anvil lies
happy birthday tolyan, i appreciate all you do:^)
Happy birthday pro bro tolyan
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happy birthday @opaque heart my favourite war gamer
Thank u guys! 🤝
Iam sure you have some contacts to get visa🤣
Ik know that it is the wrong channel but allow me one question. Will we get sooner or later ingame battlemusic like in WoT? It would change the game atmosthere in a positive way for sure 🤷♂️
And btw. happy Birthday @opaque heart :)
@copper ore Why don't we receive coins in the tier 8 tournament on Saturday June 25 if we win the upper final?
Happy birthday!
If u had real match and didn’t receive coins, u should write to the support center.
I already did it and I even sent screenshots and his answer was go to the official tournament forum
Send me the name of ur team, I will check tomorrow
Tank you! The name Is FN-NL
Happy birthday tolyan!! 🎊 🍰 🎉🍉
Bruh I just wanna see some more info on summer tournaments ngl....
can we get the rest of that tournament info, all i know is 24th and $10,000
bruh this better not be like money blasters
Where did they announced the tournament information?
Another Money Blaster!
Where u seen that?
.
ong 3 months of training for a participation camo and 5 certs with no pro rewards
Happy birthday
🥳 @opaque heart
In which minute they give information?
its still live so its hard to tell the time i guess but its after fatness leaves, after they show the trailer for july activites to be precise i guess
right before droodles showed up
Happy Birthday🎉 @opaque heart
Unmuted on time 😏
Happy birthday @opaque heart 🎉
@opaque heart Happy birthday 🐐
Happy Birthday 🙂
more info when
Happy bday @opaque heart 🎉 don’t spend ur day playing blitz
Happy birthday 🎊 🎉 🥳 @opaque heart
Happy birthday 
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Please keep this channel sfw and on topic
Lmao what !?!?
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Happy birthday tolyan

Can you guys give a bit more info about the tournament by now? I‘m talking about non-server-player rules, ingame rewards, duration and so on. Thanks 🙏🏼
^ i appreciate the hints and all but cash prize and date really isn’t enough to go off
WG will announce if the non-server player rule changes, otherwise expect nothing has changed
@solemn nexus
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does anyone wanna play with me on 2v2 birthday coins tournament VIII with vc?
Excuse me, what is the bonus code for 10 cups? if he is?
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update 9.1 will be before or after summer season?
before
Late to the birthday wishes since I'm a late-night guy but happy bday tolyan! Thanks for your efforts on keeping the competitive community informed and aware of things beforehand!
I thought we can have full info about the Summer Blaster Tournament, but the only thing that we know is 10k $ as prize pool and the registration date
Is this info Top Secret? Why not provide complete info sooner?
We need to know full information about when the update will be released and what prizes are included in this tournament.
if it's called "blaster" I'd assume it's the same regulation as winter just with summer camo instead
Yeah i think so too because it's exactly the same prize pool as the money Blaster
Only the name of it changed
yes that is true. instead of "money blaster" it's "summer blaster" when the winter one could have been "winter blaster"
u'll have 2 weeks
What does ”customization” mean? Camo? Avatar?
Yes…
Wait for the full regulations in mid-July
https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/481780881543921664/991298894279479376
Avatars
will there be king of the hill bg/pro avatar/prof camo as rewards for summer or only summer cyber camo?
@opaque heart will be top16?
Hello guys
Only cyber camo
At least more true challenger? Cuz the 5 of last time were a bit few honestly
Do only top 8 teams advance to the final tournament?
The top 8 teams receive tickets to the final tourney., try to read
top16 still gets cyber camo right? @opaque heart
will the other prof tours (winter,autumn) will follow the money blaster format? or is this only for this summer comp?
@opaque heart regarding summer tour, will the rules from top 8 be applied to the qualifications too? Like to avoid a whole Russian team qualifying and then not being able to play top 8 because of the 2 player from outside the region rule?
And the news says the top 8 teams get tickets - does that mean the tickets for the top 8 will be player specific, instead of "for the whole clan"?
Thanks for info. It would be really appreciated if you could give info of 3 super important things a bit sooner, to be able prepare: 1) can one clan have several teams competing 2) can Ukraina player be counted as EU player 3) how many CIS players in team in top8?
there was a mention of champion avatar on stream which will be given to top 1 of each major season if i understood it correctly, will this avatar be taken away from old season winners when a new team wins the most recent season?
Is it really a new avatar? Or is it old?
top 8
@opaque heart Is that avatar given to top8 teams, or its just an avatar for season winners?
- If its customization, what kind? Players will decide, or its basically a new avatar?
As u can see, we have 2 types of major tournaments: seasons and shorter cash tourneys with open and final parts. Activities in each quarter will be used depending on the situation.
@opaque heart so this time will we have regulation about only 2 foreign player on the team?
Last year it was hole month of July, why does it now finish in August?
Tickets will be given only for players of the team, not for the whole clan
Thank you =)
Hard tour
- There will be no teams limit for the clan.
- We have nothing against Ukrainian players playing on the European server.
- The team can have 2 players from other region.
What about this @opaque heart
This avatar will be temporary.
New ones.
Ok so if I conclude: you can get only cyber camo and the prize pool in Top 8. Other goods e.g. Avatar and Customization are temporary?
2022 is not 2021 🙂
@opaque heart what happens if team has more than 2 foreign players (except Ukraine player)? The whole team will be punished?
Only current champion avatar will be temporary
Yes
Is there no any reward for top12 or top16?
So there will be 2 avatars, if I understand correctly? New avatar for top8 and avatar for champions?
guy so go to ru you will definitely beat everyone there
Tolyan: Big Thanks for answer, we now know enough 😉
I will be grateful if you wait for the full regulations in mid-July, where all the rewards details will be 🙂
I am sharing as much information as possible.
Ok so If you registrate a Team than you cannot change it the whole tournament? Correct?
Im curious to that also
@opaque heart maybe background on rewards ?
U're right
Pls put also top16 like money banger 🙏
With relative prizes ofc
If you think about the summer of 2020, you might think differently 😅
LOL all these rewards are only for top 8?
Bruh
I mean if there is no reward for top8-16 and also top16-32 then 60% of the teams will be deleted cuz no point on playing
Unles they want to just waste their time
Agree with @worn juniper
Even 80% of team actually*
pretty sure teams below top12 after 2 quali will skip the rest of tourney
If they will try, Yes. But if you won’t put prize for top16 and 32 like most of those clans will not even register and it will make weird matches, instead of seeing top32 teams eliminating in first round you will see top12 teams being eliminated and 2nd round true top8 teams will match with each other
Instead of encouraging all players to play, you make them to stop playing in comp scene
At least put prizes like Money Blaster
@opaque heart
You have not even seen the regulations and prizes, but you are already drawing conclusions. Keep it up!
Sorry but we are just showing our worries, Nothing else :)). When you made an announcement with giving information about only top8 rewards it made us panic, but yea i think this message means there will be prizes for other teams except top8 too..
But no camo
@inner socket you're too aggressive friend from South. You should hope for them 🙂
Finally… thank you for let Ukrainians play in eu. It’s took a years to confirm.
Ciappo friendly as always🤣
I'm talking about rewards that are only for top 8, but what about top 12 and top 16 teams? Nothing was said about them in your message, thats why i m showing my concern
In Money Blaster, at least, these things were better
tier 8 tournament bro 😱😱😱
I'm not talking about that, at the time, all the prizes were there, up to 1-8
overall bad idea
I have another issue I’d like to bring up. This is about the way season coins tournament work.
So, right now teams are split into groups of 4 with double elimination where one team may lose once but work their way back up to the top if they win.
I had this situation many times where my team gets to the grand finals only to lose once to the same team that we beat in lower brackets, and therefore lose the tournament, which is a little unfair since my team only lost once. Therefore it’s not true to the double elimination rule.
My proposed solution would be to make the grand finals a ‘best of 5’ rounds instead of ‘best of 3’.
u should make it so only top 1 gets prizes now thats a good idea ❤️
Interesting to see how reroll players who ve been earning top 16/12 rewards just cuz of reroll mm are crying cuz now u actually gotta know how to play in order to achieve rewards 👍
agreed
Who are those reroll players?
He is just complaining cuz he didn't get spring camo 🙃
aa i can tell u one @iron crater hes a big reroll and ps horrible player ❤️ why are u all complaining about cyber camos
So there is no rewards top 16-32? Bad idea at all, cuz all team who know they can only make top 16 will not play because they won’t have camos and avatars who is the most important and rare thing, and some players can only play in summer it’s sad ….
It is
@iron crater pro blue and orange where keep crying when
whats even good about cybers and imo they were to easy to get making it so its all in top 8 is actually good imo since not just random people will get the cybers they actually have to try for instance it will make it more of an achievement when u get them
Just no fr
ewww dont say that word no its cursed anyway idk why people are crying over cybers i hate them so enjoy
Hello, is Country restrictions will apply ? Like some countries can’t get the prize money in this tournament ?
Cyber Summer was reserved for top 12 last year. At least it’ll stay semi exclusive, even though it’s a pretty ugly camo imho.
Will the champion avatar be available for the top4? Or only for those who win the tournament itself @opaque heart
@proud holly best looking camos mate are the top 4 camos cyber is irrelevant imo
Undeniable Advantage >>>
Who all can participate in this?? Is this another touch only BS tournament or atleast now will WG would give something for PC player base?
As in previous regulations.
The avatar Current champion will be given for the winner
It's easy to get for you and in your server coz you're in like 20 teams in total in the best of cases 🤣🤣
-_- well might not be as easy as u think for some people aka @iron crater
It is not
lame in-game rewards for summer season nice 😐 what’s the point in playing for top 8 just to get cyber camo when previous top 16 players got it with so much less effort...
I hope challengers gets their own ugly camo
Fanzone camos 😌

Wow you’re so good 🤯
Agreed
Cant agree, never played on ASIA
alright make an account on asia and get to top 8 and top 4 then say that alright ❤️
Or u can come on Eu make ur account and try to go on top 4 team and u will see that alright ❤️
@violet comet already have one mate and i cant play tours since im a student and they are in the middle of the day sooo yeah and as i remember i never said going onto eu and getting top 8-4 is easy but we have 2 APA eu players who want to get to top 4 on asia and they are struggling
RIP bozo ig