tourneys-discussion

[chilly hemlock]

No one deserves anything. It’s earned. The team that plays better should be the one to win, not just the favorite

[latent olive]

Couldn’t agree more

[shy sun]

@inner socket crying doesnt help, play the enemy and the better one wins, we all had bad mm no one cried

[inner socket]

No one? 😂 every chat in every server is full of player that complain for seeding even if they got top 89 teams

[thorn shale]

I love this idea. BLM- would have _BlackBuster represent them in this 1v1 tournament.

[shy sun]

@inner socket every season this server is flooded with thousands of messages of what could have been done by wg, yet u only need luck to get thru, nothing more. So why keep trying?

[urban river]

nah you just need to be good smh, crying over seeding or whatever, just play your fixtures and win it

[shy sun]

Yep, but that applies to top 8 teams, or the ones that call themselves so, they should play and win no matter what. While on the other hand, top 16 teams need to beat top 4 teams in order to get top 16. We had this, we lost, we said gg and we knew we achieved more than top 16. No one cried, period.

[muted ore]

Dear players,

Due to the insufficient number of teams in the Money Blaster Open tournament, some teams with the best results in the 2nd stage (NA, APAC) and the 3rd stage (EU) of the tournament will also be invited to the Money Blaster Final tournament.

As stated in the regulations, we considered the number of wins of the teams. Also, we took into account the fact that some teams had fewer matches due to the specifics of the groups. The number of battles did not affect our decision.

Lists the teams that will be invited to the Money Blaster Final tournament.

APAC:
— All teams of the 3rd stage of the Money Blaster Open tournament
— [NAVIN] Time Blaster
— [R1RY] Big Ball Gaming
— [-DT-] TEAM -DT-
— [-TBB-] TheBallBuster
— [FIG] Monke n Apes
— [-V7-] VINCERE

NA:
— All teams of the 3rd stage of the Money Blaster Open tournament
— [4PX] Bath Time
— [BLM-] Busters

EU:
— All teams that finished 1st and 2nd in the 3rd stage of the Money Blaster Open tournament
— 3rd place team in the 3rd stage of the Money Blaster Open tournament*
— 3rd place team in the 3rd stage of the Money Blaster Open tournament*

• The 2 remaining EU teams will be announced on Monday, February 14th after the 3rd stage of the Money Blaster Open tournament.

We would also like to share the team allocation charts for the group stage of the Money Blaster Final tournament:

[urban river]

yes thats it, if you want to get among Top8 but keep crying when actually facing some Top8 teams, its indeed so funny…
Like that just doesn’t make any sense, teams that want to reach the top need to beat those top teams, or at least compete with some…
"ouin ouin, we faced Eg and we lost to them" yeah then remain Top16/32 and it’ll be ok

[summer ibex]

Thank you!

[alpine shard]

nice.

[shy sun]

I stg some afk top 32 teams will be in top 8))), like the first alliance one

[gray pond]

Nice! Thank you
@muted ore @opaque heart

[nocturne tiger]

Thank you, Sirius!

[cobalt kettle]

ferocity should represent the North American region during Twister . He is the greatest player

[chilly hemlock]

This is literally me winning a $20k international offline tournament. Sit down

[viscid tusk]

Hey can we get some clarification on exactly what teams are in what bracket? Since no teams are in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th in the 3rd stage of the tournament, can y’all explain the graphic that you posted?

[thorn salmon]

^^^^

[viscid tusk]

Bro just give up. You are just making yourself look stupid. Give up your pitchfork and walk away.

[dull remnant]

Moderators don’t associate with WG internally so I don’t know how that’s possible

[cobalt kettle]

That is the point of winning. You want to win the money

[glass thunder]

🍿

[noble furnace]

@muted ore are battles from Money blaster open counted in the 5 battles requirement in the money blaster finals, we have a player that can't attend the finals, and also does spectating counts

[leaden belfry]

Play nice or I'm going to have to mute people or worse

Personal attacks are not okay

The clans/teams that win tours, offline or online, unfortunately do not get a say in anything wg does or thinks about

[chilly hemlock]

I don’t influence the tournament format because I don’t work for wg. What on earth are you reading to think that I get a say in what they do??😂

Wg changes the format all on their own to seasons. They changed it again to this. Us winning the tournament and taking home $10k has nothing to do with what happens in the future.

[viscid tusk]

In my opinion, we just shut this channel down and anything that needs to be said about tourneys is said in an announcement. Mods you shouldn’t have to deal with this garbage. Y’all have enough trouble already.

[chilly hemlock]

I have an idea in the works for something far better

[cobalt kettle]

Make a whole different server

[crisp shore]

It is very easy to have Wargaming's message lost in this channel ngl, so I still recommend separating this channel into tournament announcement channel and tournament general channel

[limber lintel]

Discord free nitro link?

[dull remnant]

Just get rid of those who seem to criticise with no evidence it sparks all this unnecessary conflict

[chilly hemlock]

Constructive criticism is needed and should be allowed

[leaden belfry]

The thing is that most of the stuff posted here isn't criticism, let alone constructive, it's mainly trolling, poorly hidden insults or spam

[inner socket]

Only 2 boosts here. Need some gentleman

[leaden belfry]

I don't understand how people don't get that this is basically the okay channel where they can actively chat with wg staff, and they decide to just be little kids about it

[ivory crane]

^

[leaden belfry]

Which a. Leaves a very bad impression and b. Makes it more and more unlikely for wg to actually listen or ask for ideas

[dull remnant]

Constructive criticism is fine but it’s not constitutive anymore if people are purely just insulting and involving irrelevant off topic things and personal things in these matters

[chilly hemlock]

Oh. Well aware man. It’s why I’ve said I’m done tolerating it

[modest whale]

They already said only finals game count iirc and spec doesn't count cuz you're not actually playing

[inner socket]

@muted ore about wr to decide that last 2 spots between the third. Counts wr of only the third stage of wr of all the 3 stages?

[noble furnace]

I see, thank you for clarifying

[muted ore]

No, just the battles from the Money Blaster Final tournament

[opaque heart]

First, we look at the third stage, if the situation is equal, then the second.

[snow garden]

Hi, could I check if spectating counts as a battle
Thanks for the answer

[muted ore]

No

[spiral swallow]

the cryaboutit on the card hits different for @pastel vapor

[chilly hemlock]

Really takes it to heart

[daring swan]

@muted ore if only money blaster final counts towards battles, then teams who are knocked out first in their groups could happen to play 8 games max which isn’t enough for everyone to get rewards

[covert flax]

Fatness in the back 💪 which one is you?

[leaden heath]

Games are best of 5, I think?

[noble furnace]

It is enough, you just need to alternate different players every game

[winged saffron]

I like games so I will guess he is far right

[covert flax]

👀

[tame bone]

@thorn shale helloooo

[winged saffron]

What is your prediction 👀

[crisp shore]

I am aware there are reports that NAVIN didn't even show up for stage 2 on the APAC server. Would Wargaming consider this since they are in a group of 3 teams and that at least -SZ- have showed up despite finishing 4th in the group?

[covert flax]

I was thinking one on the right holding the check, but tbf it’s a long shot of a guess 😂

[chilly hemlock]

Ana. Absolute queen

[winged saffron]

Tbf since we know who fatness is and it’s probably not the girl, it’s like a 1/6 chance

[chilly hemlock]

The day of the offline, snow fishy and I were playing Foosball with Ana instead of actually going over strata lol

[covert flax]

I can respect that 😂😂😂

[proud holly]

Did you get her number-

[blissful loom]

Yes, literally most teams had that, ttt, raid, us, w1n

[brittle bloom]

Thats how double elim works isnt it

[narrow meteor]

The goat JuJu

[chilly hemlock]

Ultimate team dad

[tame bone]

who is 'us'?

[blissful loom]

Pink, my clan

[tame bone]

okey, who knocked you out?

[blissful loom]

First time we beat FEN1X 2-1, then grand finals we lost 1-2 (full hp ammo rack)

[tame bone]

ahh okay, yeah, that's unlucky

[shy sun]

If only it was some other clan than fen1x u would ve had sth to say I bet @tame bone 🤣 🤣

[slim blade]

same deal here. we beat our opponents initially and then in the second decider we received 1.7k ammorack. even after that both teams managed to kill each other fully (7:7) and it was declared their win. ….

[sinful crest]

🐐🗣

[chilly hemlock]

Thank you, current king

[winged saffron]

Welcome to is7/60TP, enjoy your season

[slim blade]

If tournaments are to be a measure of skill I don’t see why it should be possible to have one of your tanks evaporate instantly due to a dice roll

[chilly hemlock]

Totally understand the frustration. To play devils advocate, rng is part of blitz in every way. If we remove red racks from comp it could become a slippery slope. Do people want fires removed next? Etc

[winged brook]

@muted ore any thoughts?

[wheat pier]

Epic ammo rack festival

[forest matrix]

Ngl considering TTT were ridiculously seeded #2 thanks to a stunning reroll mass manufacturing - well that just looks like karma to me

[muted ore]

8 battles are enough (you need 5 for each player)

[chilly hemlock]

I think it points out that wr seeding is still stupid

[muted ore]

No

[brittle bloom]

Didnt even show up but advanced to Money Blaster Finals 😂 😂

[forest matrix]

At least in EU it starts to look like something legit with the top clans being seeded in top 10. But I guess that just as for the 100% accounts, the process of rigging will just grow so that next tournament will be a mess again.
We all know an easy fix to compute winrate based on last 1000 battles but I believe that reroll business is paying back all the cash prize so WG keeps incentiving rerolling

[modest whale]

Wr seeding is only used for the first stage p sure

[chilly hemlock]

They should just do weighted win rate at the bare minimum

[onyx merlin]

@muted ore So in money banger final tournament, it will be BO7 very round?

[steel temple]

Yeah and grand finals is bo9

[chilly hemlock]

Bo9 is too long imo

[rapid stirrup]

Cw today ?

[winter swallow]

Hide your ammo rack - it takes skill and game knowledge to not expose key modules.

On a separate note - I'll be following EG- tomorrow.

[blissful loom]

and on 60tp it is worth it to use anti ammo rack equipment

[winter swallow]

Possibly. Arguably over time the other option might yield more benefits. Its just when an ammorack goes it really goes. But odds of hitting rack and doing critical damage aren't super high. I mean it's noticeable in the 60tp - but how often would crew die instead and you'd prefer to have the other option?

It's not a straight forward call. If blitz were a top tier esports that is something teams would have analysts deciding based on statistical evidence etc.

[chilly hemlock]

I think twister 3 had fatness getting red racked by two shells within half a second of each other but even still there’s no way two players could have ever planned it

[modest whale]

I hope fishy streams na tmr 🙏

[winter swallow]

Oh I'm actually streaming NA tomorrow. Following Battle Buddies.

[modest whale]

Yay!

[winter swallow]

@toxic lintel @narrow meteor

[spark pumice]

Sweeeet, you got the best group 🐼

[modest whale]

ponda 📈

[cobalt kettle]

[PONDA] flop

[viscid tusk]

So I assume brackets are not changing then? Because I want to watch that stream if it stays how it is it’s gonna be fire

[spark pumice]

[PONDA] Pandas

[winter swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-moana-youre-welcome-maui-dance-gif-15810606

[fluid pilot]

Can't wait for it I wish there was more streamers

[summer ibex]

60TP shooting a 60TP has a 35% chance of damaging the ammo by definition (just like any tank). Activate adrenaline and it goes up 10% to 45%. Then add tungsten into the mix, which ensures a high roll, and you have what is nearly a 50/50 chance that a guaranteed high roll hits ammo rack if you aim it properly. Running improved modules is absolutely necessary, because it makes your ammo more durable. Your ammo WILL get damaged, but non-critical damage can be repaired, whereas obviously once it detonates, all is said and done. The key on 60TP and IS-7 is to not run defense system, do run improved modules, and then run protective kit. That’s the best you can do I think. 🤷‍♂️

Alternatively, if you run defense system, the chance of taking ammo damage in the first place is reduced by 7% or something like that, so instead of 45% it’s then 38%, but when it DOES hit ammo, you still take full damage, and are much more prone to detonation than with improved modules.

[silk thistle]

Hmmm true

[flat goblet]

This is almost pure facts. The only two things that are inaccurate are base rack damage chance which is 27%, and the caveat that we don’t know exactly how adrenaline affects that base chance.

Besides that it’s pure fact

[modest whale]

I thought base rack damage chance was 33%

[summer ibex]

Oh rip… is it really 27%? I thought it was 35% base?? Thank you for the correction 🙏

[limber lintel]

doesn't matter too much, principle stays the same

[daring swan]

Bro I got racked 4 times in the pst two days in the tourney costing games. I run the right equipment and I got racked for full hp twice on each day of the tourney, two of the times being full hp.

[modest whale]

😵‍💫

[tame bone]

Lol I didn’t even know it improved the chances of damaging modules 😂

[summer ibex]

Lol

[narrow meteor]

Yay 😏

[upper oar]

@summer ibex can you quickly check in-game the percentage that improved modules increases module HP?

[chilly hemlock]

I think it’s 6%?

[odd wolf]

it’s 6-7%

[fallow raptor]

its 10%

But i dont get it even with improved modules + prot kit which technically is +20% its still not enough to prevent a rack
uh prot kit gives +10% to fuel tank and rack durability and a few other stuff like 15%protection from crew,10% increase speed of module repairs and 20%fire protection if u get caught on fire

[upper oar]

what’s the benefit of protective kit again?

[barren imp]

protection

[proud holly]

Increased module hp.

Basically it should take more hits before getting critically damaged (fire, module is unusable, rack)

[upper oar]

yeah but what’s the percentages lol

@empty phoenix incredible insight btw

10% to rack module HP? ok

🅱️erhaps i make spreadsheet when i get home

[summer ibex]

10%

Which means that if 660 was the ammo rack hp, hypothetically, it would then require a 726 roll or higher to kill it with improved modules. That’s pretty significant IMO.

[upper oar]

average module damage is separate from tank HP damage roll

i’ll explain later today

[fallow raptor]

is module damage and tank hp damage rolls directly proportional to each other
or is module dmg another rng roll u have to go through

[upper oar]

the latter is what i’m pretty sure is true. there may be some correlation with a max HP roll and a max module damage roll resulting from Precision Fire, but normally i think they are separate rolls

[thorn shale]

Learn to drive and you won’t get ammoracked, most ammoracks come from stupid side peaks and overangling

[cobalt kettle]

Is this why players activate speed boost and adrenaline at the very beginning of the battle and deal 51 damage

[summer ibex]

Yes like most ammo racks at t10 are between 100 and 200 hp I think, but the damage rolls and module damage rolls should be directly proportional.

[upper oar]

at first i thought they were proportional but i don’t have evidence to really back it up. it’s hard to actually confirm it because its basically impossible to see the exact module damage dealt with a shot. the only way to have a reasonable assumption about it would be to see either a completely max or minimum HP damage role that hit a module and either didn’t deal enough damage to damage the module, or just barely was able to damage the module

like if there’s a 1% chance to damage a module and the only way to do it with a max HP roll: we would need to see that module being damaged only with max damage rolls and no other normal damage rolls

[empty phoenix]

Ahaha I figured it was 50/50 🤪🤪

[summer ibex]

Well said. Excellent analysis. Couldn’t have said it better myself 😂

@upper oar Yes, there’s too many independent variables. Either the damage would have to be constant or you would have to guarantee that the ammo rack takes damage from every shot in order to conduct this test I think.

[summer ibex]

I do not understand the question, but I’m guessing you’re memeing either one of your team or one of mine, so I will have to answer with this: perhaps.

[civic ferry]

Why no tournaments except the one touch event?

[waxen relic]

Because first and for most, blitz is a mobile game

[barren imp]

glad i could be of help.

[flat goblet]

It says +10%, but does that mean 27% + 10% or does it mean 27% + (10% of 27%). I ask because this is a distinction that is almost always unclear in games, unless it says additive or multiplicative. Though in the case of adrenaline it does seem to be additive.

[onyx merlin]

60tp and is7 original ammo hp is 210, plus improve and protective kid it will improve to 210+20%= 252hp. 60tp device dmg is 203. Means with protective kid and improve module as equipment, 60tp won't get full hp ammo rack. is7 either

[velvet karma]

Does device dmg boost with tungsten shell?

[hexed siren]

It's 12% for the rack, 27% for the damage. Plus the 10% on adrenaline

60tp rack hp is 210. 60tp module damage is 203 +/-25%. If you're using tungsten, it shifts it to 203 + 5-25% like the damage thing. So you can only get ammoracks when you're on tungsten but you'll never get a damaged ammo rack

The % chance of the rack stays the same. 20-22% (12% base + 10% on adrenaline)

@onyx merlin you're absolutely correct

[thorn shale]

dam yall went hella in depth on it lmao. i just aim for the ammo rack if i hit cool if not whatever. you notice a lot less ammo racks now than when they were first introduced because people have learned to just not give the side of the tank. ez

[flat goblet]

wym 12 for rack and 27 for damage

[flat goblet]

Nah, less racks not because of that, it's because of equipment/provision choice. As someone pointed out earlier, using the equipment that buffs module HP reduces chance of red rack.

[fluid pilot]

same

[hexed siren]

The %s are different for straight ammo racks and ammo rack damage. It's 12% if you wanna blow a undamaged ammo rack. You'll it in armour inspector

[flat goblet]

Yes. With tungsten the ‘red rack’ chance is equal to ammo rack damage chance.

Barring any equipment and provisions

[onyx merlin]

@velvet karma Can't know, only thing we know is that device dmg also has rng(+-25%dmg based original).

[upper oar]

this is armor inspector doing all of the math together. its 12% because .27 * .45 (normal saving throw chance and normal chance to roll 210 module damage or higher from a 60TP) equals 12.15%

[merry blade]

I have served my time, now I am free to discuss my favorite mobile game. @upper oar you know it!

[upper oar]

Raid: Shadow Legends i assume?

[hexed siren]

Makes sense

[winter swallow]

MBO - 3rd Stage - EU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IkH62IurZk
MBO - 3rd Stage - NA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVtwITfgRoQ

I post these links in #media but since this is the first time I am covering NA in 2 years I thought I'd share here too so folks don't miss out. Peace x

[atomic tartan]

Yaaaay Rolling is back

[thorn shale]

Camo for tier 8 or all tanks?

[fickle thicket]

You can "check" by clicking the camo's description

[cobalt yarrow]

All

[covert flax]

Your streaming pramo!!!! They are in our bracket!!!!

[modest whale]

Yay!!

[gilded marsh]

thank you so much for the free token log.

[winter swallow]

Yes. See you tonight. Good luck o7

[modest whale]

Ponda 📈

[proud holly]

Oh geez my group’s in that bracket

[winter swallow]

which team are you in?

[proud holly]

Hated 🤠

[covert flax]

Hated and ponda unite!!!!!!!

[winter swallow]

= "I sell tanka or pubg or freefire accounts" translated - <@&481447501690568709>

[fast hare]

Vampir357902#9549 has been warned.

N.Z.#1459 has been warned.

[hollow fiber]

On second thought 🔨

[gilded marsh]

it’s crazy how ponda and pramo are facing each other for like the 3rd-4th time now. hopefully BLXCKW1DOW’s calling will be successful tonight.

[winter swallow]

Is it top2 advance on NA too tonight?

[covert flax]

Negative, all of the teams playing tonight advance, plus two teams from stage 2 brackets. We didn’t have enough teams on NA so that’s why 😂

[gilded marsh]

due to lack of teams on na, all 14 teams in the 3rd stage at the moment all qualify for the money blaster finals i think. then the remaining 2 teams are 4px and blm- from games won in 1st and 2nd stages.

[ancient shard]

Tonight only helps determine the brackets for the mb final but that’s about it, everyone in this stage has already qualified

[slim socket]

@odd wolf I think you're a really good tournament player

[odd wolf]

thanks 🥰

[winter swallow]

... -_- so I am streaming at 3am to follow a series of inconsequential matches?

sigh

At least I'll have 10 battle passes for March to giveaway 😄

Well OK it help determine seeding so at least there's something to it 😛

[gilded marsh]

inconsequential or not, the group you are streaming is very good. the ponda pramo matchup should be a very competitive set. keep a close eye on blxckw1dow from ponda if hes playing as he is a notorious playmaker in na comp.

[fluid pilot]

^

[covert flax]

Rolling we are glad to have you streaming our matches tonight. It helps with seeding, so you are appreciated!

@gilded marsh I agree blxckw1dow is a very good comp player!

[lapis narwhal]

@covert flax You are getting streamed tonight!!!

[harsh quail]

I think PP_WarMachine’s POV will be much better than BLXCKW1DOWS, and I believe he should be the highlight of the stream.

[gilded marsh]

you are literally the ponda caller...

@spark pumice very funny. in all seriousness tho i hope blxckw1dow will be playing tonight in the pramo set. it would suck to not have your caller in your most important set.

[thorn shale]

oh so this is the famous tournament channel

[spark pumice]

we both know it’s sporting sherman
after blxckw1dows profomance in a scrim last night we removed him from his leadership position.

[gilded marsh]

lol. in all seriousness im expecting some heated matches between u and pramo

[rare trellis]

I am eager to watch the revolutionary calls and plays made by BLXCKW1DOW

[covert flax]

IK!!!!! I’m so nervous!!!!!

[lapis narwhal]

u better be! Ur getting streamed by RollingSwarm!!!

[worn marten]

I watched the replays of RA1ID vs M1R match. M1R played wonderfully and well deserved. No luck

[latent olive]

Then they deserve their spot which is entirely my point.

[worn marten]

very good point actually. It is good to see new teamns,players qualifying

[wicked breach]

@harsh quail Good luck tonight Ponda caller, I hope you guys do well!!!

[modest whale]

I support ponda

[narrow meteor]

He did, so don’t click on any link he sends you

[fickle thicket]

Oof u know these discord nitro bots are getting real bad when a moderator gets his acc messed, oh that's a relief

[hollow fiber]

👨‍💻

[noble star]

Actually he did. My bad. He left until sorted

[odd wolf]

ye it was on another server. hope he gets his acc back soon

[marble harbor]

Legitimately can’t believe discord doesn’t have a live support option

[odd wolf]

unlucky. good that u got it sorted out

[thorn shale]

Day 1 of asking when will WG announce top 16 in game

[marble harbor]

They haven’t even responded to the email ticket lol

[proud holly]

I think it’s still going to be a good series of matches. Battle Buddies is obviously one of the top teams of the season, but all of the other 3 clans are more than capable of holding their own

[merry blade]

Okay but why do mods just delete my messages that aren’t even controversial

[sinful crest]

@muted ore hi when will information about the pro tour regulations be uploaded?

[proud holly]

@sinful crest haven’t they been released for a while? I can maybe dm it if it’s the regulations I think you’re talking about

[sinful crest]

Maps n regulations

[rare trellis]

I am hoping we can play on Lost Temple in the Grand Finals. I think it would be a truly riveting viewing experience as well as a bit of ✨spice✨ in the comp map pool.

[torpid cedar]

um no

[spiral swallow]

will the bans for account sharing be checked now or after grand finals

[torpid cedar]

i hope now so we can acc share later in tourny lmao jk

[burnt glacier]

Lets see which 2 teams WG rly love
❤️

[thorn shale]

All 14 teams have 1 vote and teams with the most votes advance

[mystic lake]

E

[jaunty talon]

XD

[latent olive]

vote for me!!!!

[mellow belfry]

Vote me 😎🤩

[blissful loom]

u made it through lmao

[burnt glacier]

WoT blitz Democracy as it is

[thorn shale]

That's like a reward👁️ 👄 👁️

[tame bone]

Nice

[cobalt yarrow]

and wargaming vote worth as 15 vote , that is true democracy

[mellow belfry]

Doesnt matter. Vote me !!!

[blissful loom]

will do xd, just gotta say kekos rage agaisnt reti was hilarious (poor guy)

[latent olive]

forget @mellow belfry he doesnt need votes, vote me instead just coz 🤷‍♂️

[burnt glacier]

WG will vote for the most big donators in game so who paid the most big amount of money in total will get place
Change my mind

P.S. Pay to pass
P.P.S. Don't ban pls, I'm joking

[narrow meteor]

Thanks for explaining everything, good work

[latent olive]

However, I do want to say the following (considering the previous messages). Big congrats to ASP. We out played them in the opening games, but they came back strong and truly deserved to beat us (VE1L). We got outplayed, simple as that, by a team that picked itself up and came back a lot harder. It was an honour to play in the last round and yes we would have liked to be in the next round, but it wasnt to be. There is no shame in crashing out, we didnt play to our best when it mattered and the better team won. Well done ASP 👍 p.s we also had a full HP ammo rack, but it happens!

[burnt glacier]

Ugh ogh
Thanks big man!

[mellow belfry]

Hahahahah, that was “normal” rage of keko, he had biggest ones lmao. In future u will see more i guess 🥶
He is best tho ❤️

[slim blade]

I love how 50% of the results this season were decided based on a full hp ammorack

[blissful loom]

Lmao it was hilarious props to him ik what that rng is like, cant wait to see more from u + rage :3

[upbeat iris]

<@&481447501690568709> might want to clear ^

[scenic thorn]

Let me be

[gray pond]

No

[proud holly]

Where’s my nitro

[tame bone]

Yay I got the free nitro 😁😁😁

[scenic thorn]

I couldn't claim because i have nitro why didn't you? 🥴

[narrow meteor]

Just wear your protection

[burnt glacier]

10-15% and cause some players doesn't use correct equipment I'm sure

[gray pond]

Got deleted, sadge

[scenic thorn]

don't be shy next time

[gilded marsh]

for real. people be going in their 60 tps without armor, protective kit or improved modules, and then driving side on to enemy 60tps using adrenaline + tungsten

use protection and be wary of your entry hole.

[proud holly]

A little suspect

[covert flax]

LMAO 😂

[barren imp]

Money Blaster Open NA - Day 3! come say hi :^) https://twitch.tv/34wotb

[untold tinsel]

no, i don’t think i will

[fluid pilot]

Based

[silk thistle]

Based

[scenic gyro]

@winter swallow ebic streamer 💯

[winter swallow]

dies of tiredness

[lapis narwhal]

lmao,

[harsh quail]

Thank you for streaming rolling 🙏

[fluid pilot]

The stream was super chad

[narrow meteor]

Someone cooler then me make a bracket for me to look at

[thorn shale]

No cap all the games should be streamed

[raven marlin]

Op

[runic jetty]

all of elev is doing face reveals rn lol

ty and also great plays by cruel and mm ggs

[tardy bay]

Hello

[leaden heath]

How will top 4 be decided?

[spark pumice]

Winners of each group. Just read the regulations lol

[narrow meteor]

kinda wish it was just a big 16 team double elimination tournament

[fallow turret]

A round Robin would've been a lot of games but it would be pretty cool

[summer ibex]

Yes it would probably be more fair to have top 8 round robin and 9-16 round robin, and this is coming from a person who would probably benefit from the current regulation

[fluid pilot]

I would've liked round robbing because it would mean more games to watch :3

[orchid spear]

Group D 💀

[thorn shale]

Group D 💀

[summer ibex]

Thanks sir 😁

Group D 💀

[proud holly]

Group D 💃

[fluid pilot]

Group D 🧧

[fickle thicket]

Bruh how have they not warned u yet with that pfp

[covert flax]

Group A💪💪💪

[steel temple]

Group D 👼

[lapis narwhal]

Group D 💀

[modest whale]

Group E 👼

[spark pumice]

Don’t lose out 😐, this format gives more teams than ever the cyber camo. If you’re losing two sets in a row you probably wouldn’t have gotten the camo anyways in any other season.

[fluid pilot]

Don't lose then lol

[summer ibex]

8 games times 7 players is 56 games. 10 players times 5 games apiece is 50. There are 6 more games than you need, even if you get swept. Check your math! 😁

[covert flax]

My head hurts

[fast hare]

Erwin_Romel52839#5605 was banned

[summer ibex]

Drinking water or taking an aspirin/ibuprofen could help.

[orchid spear]

No drug advertising here

[fickle thicket]

They're medicine, though guess you could argue they're still "drugs" 🤔

[summer ibex]

I did not intend to advertise dr*gs, only to alleviate a brother’s pain. 🙏

[covert flax]

I need some headache meds after reading!!!

[merry blade]

I hear drinking lots of water can help with your headache

[outer isle]

@scenic thorn I hear you were using the emulator

[scenic thorn]

you should've remind me about that before, now it's too late

[outer isle]

:(

[silk thistle]

Drugs r a great way of alleviating pain! 🙏

[proud holly]

Sound cloud shenanigans

[simple grove]

Hi mystic

[tepid island]

Group D 😜

[spark pumice]

Group A 😈

Group D 🤪 😋

[winter swallow]

How are Asia groups?

[ancient shard]

other way around group D is very challenging I wouldn’t want to be there

[simple grove]

Group D 🅾️🅿️

[spark pumice]

I have to agree Group D's members shivered our timbers

[proud holly]

I think Group D is going to be the most exciting group to spectate

[ancient shard]

on greg

[iron crater]

creds to spartan

[remote wharf]

did cease rename or smth? thought they were easy top 10

[hardy robin]

The Asia groups are pretty good. The only hitch with the seeding is if you were in Group 1, no matter where you placed, you’d face a weaker team that was promoted to the tour (V7, NAVIN, FIG) but we move

[placid citrus]

R they a good clan and is @thorn shale a member?

[modest whale]

Who's PONDA?

[untold tinsel]

ur dads

[ember marlin]

PONDA FLOP

[simple grove]

#tourneys-discussion

[drowsy orchid]

anyone wanna 2v2 tournament tmrw tier 8 asia server

or tier 6🤷‍♂️

[modest whale]

😹

[torpid cedar]

who is 4px?

[modest whale]

I do not know but I hear they are bad

[covert flax]

Rgk is my dad!

[runic pier]

Why i cant watch ADD's on SAMSUNG 11+ from +one week any1 know ??

[winter swallow]

Because you have been blessed and stopped from wasting your time on such nonsense.

[lapis narwhal]

You have no dads, ur fatherless

[ancient shard]

Keep the chat tournament related please

[modest whale]

Do not insult each other!

[untold tinsel]

@lapis narwhal i can confirm that i am his father

[lapis narwhal]

👀

[wet tide]

Daddy RGK 😙

[orchid spear]

I like tournaments!

[winter swallow]

General question - do we know how WG plan to fill vacant spots in money blaster final tournament? If at all?

[tepid trout]

They will announce it tomorrow if i recall correctly

[valid adder]

gonna find out it tommorow

[winter swallow]

Cheers guys- appreciated o7

[thorn shale]

🐅 > 🐏

[burnt glacier]

The most expected way is to count wins at 3rd stage.
I don't really think that they will do tiebreaker through all 3rd places

[crisp shore]

MFG is pretty much certain. It depends what metric WG uses to decide the other clan. If WG considers upper bracket final first, WNRS will go through. If WG considers number of losses in stage 3, DEMOH will go through. If WG considers number of wins in stage 2, -T1L- will go through. There might be more I miss but I have a feeling WG will go for the latter. However, it is also very likely it will be the former since the last two teams of the NA server are decided this way.

[narrow meteor]

No one cares about tournaments, Go Bengals

[sinful crest]

Joe shiesty

[spark pumice]

Joe Brrrrrr 🥶🥶🥶

[alpine shard]

🙏

[rare trellis]

@merry blade

[summer ibex]

Group D 💀

[spark pumice]

😐

[proud holly]

I laugh every tiem

[hardy robin]

On Asia, a team called NAVIN made top 16 purely by being 3rd in a group of 3 in the second stage, despite not even showing up to any games in that stage. Even though they did this, a team called SZ who showed up to the second stage (and even won a game against a previous top 8 clan at one point making it 1-2) missed out on top 16 ... surely that's not right

[nocturne tiger]

Group D 🤧

[drowsy orchid]

anyone tournament today tier 7-8 in about 3hrs asia server

[proud holly]

Lowkey, I don’t get why they are gonna give out true challengers certs for the top 8, when they could just give out 5 certs of like pro blue/orange instead

[winter swallow]

You don't think wg will run a last chance?

[latent olive]

They have plenty of time tbf. Throw all 3rd place into a double elim, place 1 & 2 grab the final places

[fresh crow]

hell no pls 👀

[winter swallow]

I think all 3rd place into a round Robin and top 2 take final places. Fairer and it would fit time wise.

[outer isle]

👍

[winter swallow]

That being said - whole MB tournament is double elimination thus far and looks to be same for final part too.

So double elimination for 7x 3rd place finishers would be more in keeping. LC tournament also means same conditions can apply equitably across EU APAC NA. I guess CIS is full 16?

[tame bone]

i guess we shall see

[tropic vapor]

loosing another 2nd place cause of an ammorack kekw

[glass thunder]

i think best option is to pick 2 random teams or just take 2 best in wr

[velvet linden]

it would be op

[tame bone]

@velvet linden hello

[fresh crow]

Save Tom @velvet linden @tropic vapor

[velvet linden]

Hello

[tame bone]

which teams did MFG face?

[fresh crow]

APA, IMMOR and Sparta @tame bone

[tropic vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[crisp shore]

I think they explicitly said they will choose them through a tiebreaker

[onyx merlin]

does wg say that will announce it today?

[smoky horizon]

@onyx merlin Yes

[tame bone]

wow, did u beat them? :o..

[onyx merlin]

So just wait they announce, after that we can discuss about it
@tame bone yeah I saw mfg beat apa.

[primal talon]

@tropic vapor we let him loose xD

[fresh crow]

our man @tropic vapor was the real winning

[tropic vapor]

Against APA yes..then we lost 2:3 against SPRTA and IMM0R

[winter swallow]

Yeah what happened to APA?

[fresh crow]

Dictateur saved a 1vs2 with 7,5k. Best man of all time

[crisp shore]

MFG coaxed _Charl1e_Sc3n3_ into not taking a T-100 LT again 👀

[tropic vapor]

@fresh crow I must add that i would like to know what ernest was doing bruh.

[smoky horizon]

He got nightmares instead

[fresh crow]

uff idk he was looking for a 100m sprint

[tropic vapor]

Xd

[tame bone]

yooo @☆ 𝕻𝖆𝖗𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖘𝖊 ☆#4000 we need to poach @tropic vapor

[inland condor]

honestly… a rlly good question. i was so confused about that game and the endfight especially ngl

[tropic vapor]

Yea i didn't quite understand the movements in the first game..maybe they underestimated us. Idk

[fresh crow]

🙃

[tropic vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-its-weekend-ok-bye-ciao-slide-gif-15739082

[fresh crow]

@tame bone no one is going to Steal my @tropic vapor

[shy sun]

Dk if mfg guys have seen it, but yennefer now clanless 😳

[tropic vapor]

Yea we saw that

[fresh crow]

Also _TheWitcher 😟

[serene crystal]

whoops, he plays heavy next week u heard it here first 😄

[crisp shore]

Little did they know the coax was a turn of the tide

[opaque heart]

Dear Players!

We are ready to announce two teams that will also qualify for the EU Money Blaster Final: [MFG] Peepofighters and [-T1L-] The Legendary.

We also share with you the seeding of the teams in the first round of the tournament.
Registration of teams will take place automatically in the next few days.

[burnt glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-gif-20748683

[fresh crow]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-22851318

[hollow edge]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-gif-20356408

[daring dune]

So this means we teams do not need to register by any operations?

[crisp shore]

I hope Wargaming will do it for them as the rules state only the players who participated in the Open can participate in the Final

[winter swallow]

Thanks for the update 🍻

[burnt glacier]

Group B looks like group of death

[thorn tusk]

Let's go R3TI is there 🤟

[plain shuttle]

@muted ore hello, could you pls tell me when the 7v7 quick tournaments have been rescheduled again to, and if tht date will be permanent?

[winter swallow]

LOCA EG- SNTY JON3S top 4 is possible. I approve of this seeding.

I mean - all EU top 16 teams are solid so the tournament format has done a fair job at filtering teams by ability over a very short qualifying series.

Controversially - I think the MBO format has worked for intended purpose.

Some teams lost out but there's always going to be upsets.

Anyways - the groups look pretty well balanced in terms of teams in them for EU. I don't see any groups as being significantly easier / harder than others.

*edit: and congrats to MFG and T1L for squeezing in.

[grim blade]

Hi Tolyan. Thanks for sharing the seeding of the teams in the first round of the tournament for EU, APAC and NA servers.
==> You mind to share CIS also?

[muted ore]

Hello.
The next quick 7vs7 tournaments will be played on Saturday. This schedule for them will be valid only in February.
There will also be 7vs7 tournaments in March, but I cannot tell you the exact day of the week.

[plain shuttle]

oh dayum, saturday, good thing its only for feb ;-;
thanks a lot sirius for the quick reply

[tropic vapor]

Thanks❤️

[fresh crow]

Thx Man 🙏

[latent olive]

Congrats MFG & T1L you guys deserve those spots! GL in the next leg 😊

[devout cairn]

Ty 🥰

[tepid trout]

nice

[outer isle]

So many bros making games today

[gentle sierra]

It has "game" on the link so it must be legit

[latent olive]

Those links need to be mod deleted me thinks

[scenic thorn]

Noob bro

[devout cairn]

Ty 🥰

[thorn shale]

@still niche you are wrong

[valid adder]

Thaks bro❤️

[fresh crow]

Thanks a lot❤️

[serene crystal]

for the spectator, it's great. kinda like FA cup style, except there's double elimination so favours the stronger team even more generally speaking

and shoutout to MFG as well, probs whole group deserved a spot

[tropic vapor]

What true words..Thank you man👊

[thorn shale]

Tbh seeding systems should “favour” best teams in this way - that’s sort of the point ish. But, statistically speaking, it is unlikely all 4 top favourites will make top 4 given the format.

Ofc then an eventual dark horse will be among the wolves in top 4 and that could get pretty ugly for them…

[fresh crow]

Thx Man 💪

[serene crystal]

guess the point im getting at, the lack of predictability is good for the spectator

[cyan timber]

Congratulations everyone!

[crisp shore]

Group 2 is unbelievably even (stage 3 and MB final)

[glass thunder]

thanks and Happy Valentine’s Day ya habibi

[winter swallow]

I agree. Also thanks for your mastery yoh carry 💪

From commentator’s perspective - it is very difficult to sell emotional investment in a foregoing conclusion. Upsets - knife edges - come backs - tie breakers - these are where the excitement lies.

[fresh crow]

@tropic vapor

[tropic vapor]

How can i help you plebw

[hardy delta]

The single tournament to go from 50 —> 16 teams felt a little bit rushed and let some teams arguable worse to squeeze by with a simpler bracket compared to others. And also it let some teams just have to win 1 game in a 3 team bracket to get through. I think a second tournament would’ve been more beneficial to sort out teams more reliably and show what teams are solid.

[rare trellis]

I don’t think it would’ve made much of a difference who made it through. I think the majority of the strongest teams are in the top 16 currently. Actually can’t really think of any other teams that would’ve earned it.

[proud holly]

^ I don't view any of the teams that were knocked out of top 16, as teams that deserved it more than those that are currently in.

[narrow meteor]

Yeah, this is one of the few times the 2 better teams made it in

[tame ibex]

RA1D for pretty unlucky and after winning BPC I think they had good chances for Top8

[alpine shard]

😃

[proud holly]

Idk eu stuff :p

[modest whale]

Work ethic doesn't know where Europe is

[runic jetty]

One of the top 4 teams will be funny though :3

[rare trellis]

i have faith in you guys. you earned it, just don’t slip up in the finals (:

[modest whale]

-VNTI

[proud holly]

Just don’t Mis_Steak in the Maus and all ur problems go away

[surreal hinge]

I heard that running 7 Mice is an extremely good idea for some maps. I'd advise you guys to run similar loadouts as well.

[void flint]

Hello

[modest whale]

Greetings!

[solar quarry]

I think Desert Sands is the ideal map for 7 Mice.

[untold tinsel]

i don’t

[covert flax]

Camo net on maus is extremely good.

[summer ibex]

BETTA was the next closest competitor imo

[hardy robin]

I actually heard that the Concept was the best tank in the game and can smoke 60TPs in 1v1s. I’d actually advise 7 Concepts.

[winter swallow]

There were a few EU teams people would say got knocked out early. That being said - I don't think there are any teams in EU top 16 that qualified that don't deserve to be there.

The parallel blessing and curse of having many teams playing at similar level. Like we have 30 top 20 teams - as it were.

However yes RA1D was a bit of an upset. Especially since they won BPC3. The perils of Bo3 :(

[burnt glacier]

Also -W1N-

[narrow tiger]

Delete ? Probably scam <@&481447501690568709>

[forest matrix]

Raid loss to mir is the biggest upset in EU since the comp scene is stable
W1N was out since few seasons while SPRTA is really consistent so not a real surprise imo
Some teams still buying their top16 with rerolll though

[onyx merlin]

If W1N have won sparta and quality to stage 3. We would have said sparta is unlucky. Don't be sad, sometimes that's the thing works.
Even us, Chrd almost lose to T1L boz we were 0-2 t1l, but we stable ourselves and win 3 games continue to qualify into gran final.

Raid lost boz they troll first game and ammoracked in 2nd game. If they haven't trolled first game. they would have 3rd game to win.
I don't really like a team which troll in tour. it's quite no respect their opponent.

[hexed siren]

@opaque heart hello, can you please explain how does this 'Group of death' seeding work?

[gray pond]

Definitely scam 😄

[opaque heart]

https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/15743/

[viscid python]

Well said !
And yes, I see why some people think that we should've been in top 16 but the fact is that those were our first real games together for couple years. And we also have a bunch of new players..
I think we and Sparta were pretty equal and if it had gone other way it would been still a shame.

But what I want to actually say is that this qualifying system is much better than 1 month qualifiers which we have seen too much..
Thing is that these qualifiers should be Bo5. Not Bo3.

Personally I dont see any reason why Bo3 is better than Bo5..
Bo5 doesn't really take that much longer if other team is superior. But in case teams are ~evenly good... Well, in Bo5 luckfactor drops dramatically..

[winter swallow]

Yep. Also well said.

Bo5 is universally recognised as better in general. Bo3 suitable for smaller tournaments or when it is 70% team vs 50% teams early on.

I think MBO tournament was right to be Bo3 stage 1... but should have been Bo5 stages 2 and 3 given the closer matched teams.

That said - Double Elimination Bo3 better than Single Elimination Bo5 ... AND 1 week qualifiers MUCH better than 1 month.

This compact money blaster tournament is nice 👌

What would be even nicer if it could be more frequent than quarterly - or rather having a "major" series every 2 months rather than every 3.

More opportunities = less complaints in the long run.

Same principle as Bo5 > Bo3 and Double > Single Elimination.

[onyx merlin]

Exactly, I do believe we should do Bo5 Boz there was only one chance and bo5 is much better than bo3 considered some team qualify by luck. I’m not against anyone just say there might be some lucky cases

[rapid shard]

The good question is: why can you get knocked out by losing one bo3 in a DOUBLE ELIMINATION tournament?

[forest matrix]

The main drawback of bo5 is that it is actually taking more time - WG must take all scenarios into account when planning games.
So second game will have to take place at 21h instead of 20h30 - even if 99% of the time the first match ends in 2 minutes because one team is not there… otherwise I agree with all what u said. PYS system is harassing players that have to deal with family /school / work constraints.

And then we come back to seeding - if ever the seeding is relevant you don’t need so many qualifiers and can go consistently with a single qualifying tournament

[winter swallow]

Yes it does seem unfair. A team you beat in early bracket 2:1 then beats you 2:1 in final so they go through... idk how WG could fix that though?

[wet tide]

Atleast have more battles so it don’t all depend on one ammorack lol
The amount of games being decided by ammoracks is just laughable at this point
And then that one game meaning the end of your entire tournament is something that could use change aswell

[rapid shard]

either: bo5 in finals
or: as it is standard practice in many double elim formats is that the lower bracket team has to beat the upper bracket team twice
although i can see how that removes some suspense in the final

also that being the only day where final losers get eliminated makes it quite laughable as well

[simple grove]

Tournament

[slim blade]

+it’s genuinely beneficial to throw the first game and then tryhard the final as it’s only the final which counts. Throw the first game 2:1 = more games you get to play = more games won = better chances on day 3

[summer ibex]

That is why they should use a team's winrate over all tours to determine the tiebreakers, because it would encourage people NOT to throw, in the case that they may need higher winrate to win a tie

[alpine shard]

^

[lunar ibex]

who went to do the tournament Coin Blaster VIII on wot blitz mp me

[analog osprey]

U had an excellent wr and a good seeding. U can’t blame wg

[serene crystal]

Other than a bo5 as killerfromnorth said, the format is great imo. Also agree with having them more frequently as rolling said, solid points

[slim blade]

absolutely

[gray pond]

Yea exactly
The Bo3 format along with the double elimination was good for stage 1 and 2 in my opinion, it didn't take too long and actually gave teams that had not yet warmed up a second chance

[slim blade]

not having a month of qualifiers this season was a nice change. just some minor tweaks such as changing bo3 --> bo5 and changing from games won to win%. otherwise it was a nice tournament format.
bo5 greatly decreases the luck factor which threw some teams off this season. another nice change would be to change the basis on which teams are sent through to the next stages i.e. having teams 1+2 on days 1+2 and then on day only the top team advances. this gets rid of some group of death early dropouts.

[crisp shore]

I think the format is decent for the bigger servers but there are too many surplus matches for the smaller servers, which will benefit the teams more for prolonging stage 1 such as having a group of 8 teams playing in a round robin format that takes up 2 days and maybe the 3rd day can be used to decide the qualifiers and the seeding for the final.

We can afford slightly longer qualification stage for the major seasons though, that could be under this format that selects half of the teams for the final on the first week and the other half on the second week.

[gilded marsh]

if wg uses a bo5 format there will still be teams that lose and then complain about rng ammoracks etc.

[atomic tartan]

Or get an upset in the 3rd game 💀

[narrow meteor]

Just win lmao

[modest whale]

not for ponda

[cyan timber]

next year you'll be my valentine x

[spark pumice]

especially for ponda

[smoky elm]

Nooo! 5 50B, a Folch, and a T100 is OP. Hey there! I was wondering....would the new map (Dutch Beauty) be featured in tournaments soon? 😄

[spring gale]

why another update during mid tourney szn

[mellow belfry]

^

[proud holly]

Meh, at least it’s not within the middle of a qualifier/championship

[latent olive]

Personally I liked this tour, because it was no picnic. The PYS did to an extent let the more established CW teams kind of sail through whereas this tour really put pressure on, especially in round 2. Yes there were upsets, but when you think about it most went out due to errors or mistakes, not purely on RNG or bad seeding. VE1L went out because we totally mucked up the lower final, our fault and only ourselves to blame, but this was a hasty pulled together team and Im proud of what they achieved.

The fact remains that CW is meant to be competitive, meant to pit teams against each other for a 'battle royale' and I see many still bemoan seeding or such. If I had any complaints over this tour, it would be purely down to the way the last 2 were picked. Im not saying neither MFG of T1L deserve to be there, quite the opposite, but WG needs to find a better system imo. I think a 'last chance tour' wouldve been more beneficial and fairer and there was certainly enough time to run one. That being said, those in the Top 16 played well enough to be there so well done to them and best of luck to all of them in the final rounds 🙂

[winter swallow]

Quality meme.

[worn juniper]

Is this new map going to be used in final tournament?

[limber lintel]

following ghost factory pattern, could be yes

[crisp shore]

But then it will be too soon. They didn't include Ghost Factory in the Professional Tournament but the map was available just before.

[thorn shale]

Why do you need that info. Sigma males don't prepare for the tournament, they prepare for results

[worn juniper]

You are right, i dont care about it anymore

[thorn shale]

That's the spirit

[tame ibex]

I think it would be cool if the final would be bo5 and and the team that comes from the upper bracket gets one free round

[remote tinsel]

@muted ore @opaque heart hello wg when spring season?

[modest whale]

Life lesson: don't ask WG for tourney info more than 3 days before a season starts they won't answer

[burnt glacier]

How to find out when season starts to ask in 3 days before it?🤔 🤔 🤔

[modest whale]

🤯 🤯

[analog osprey]

@remote tinsel le roi??

[upper oar]

they probably wont drop spring season info until its...actually spring

[modest whale]

Thank you, I had no idea

Hello best kawaii

[remote tinsel]

Dasilva PORT?

[modest whale]

Oh, sorry.

[nocturne tiger]

bath time

[proud holly]

_ _

[tame bone]

_ _

[scenic thorn]

`

[rare trellis]

Please keep this chat #tourneys-discussion related. I don’t want to have to ping the moderators.

[ocean thunder]

Is it really that necessary to threaten that?

[rare trellis]

Absolutely.

[elder laurel]

here in houston it’s already spring so logic fails for my tiny brain 😎

[ocean thunder]

Why tho? Is it really important enough to mess with people?

[elder laurel]

thank you mod 😤

[ocean thunder]

They are not a mod

[elder laurel]

hence the joke

[sour mason]

Hello when spring season start

[spark pumice]

Where’s verstappen when you need him

[rare trellis]

Simmer down chat. No need to get all rowdy

[ocean thunder]

Oh the emoji said “triumph” so was not sure if it was joke lol. Sorry

[elder laurel]

all good lol

[slim socket]

Can the money blaster final be moved so I can attend a concert without missing it thanks 😩 💪 👍

[elder laurel]

pushing 🅿️ is a childish trend 😡😡😡

[harsh quail]

_ _

[ocean thunder]

What even is pushing p. Never heard of it . Is it like some new trend

[slim socket]

Dude left 💀

[mellow belfry]

<@&481447501690568709>

[merry blade]

He couldn’t handle the pushing p

[narrow meteor]

The goat, just hoping your teammates don’t get in the way of your greatness 🙏🏻

[mellow belfry]

chip ❤️ 🙏

[analog osprey]

Le vrai

[thorn shale]

<@&481447501690568709> if i move to a different country and play on a different device is there a possibility of getting banned?

[maiden anvil]

what the sus

[ancient shard]

I don’t think so as long as it’s the same device since I moved during summer season? But I’m not sure

[thorn shale]

do they do it by ips or by first location?

[fast hare]

Player_#2022 was banned

[modest whale]

L

[harsh quail]

Unfortunate.

[proud holly]

mega sus

[silk thistle]

imppostor 😹

😹

[modest whale]

I'm telling the moderators

[proud holly]

Go on 📝

[winter swallow]

Also your device has a unique ID… so it is multi-faceted. Time, location and device.

If you start having multiple devices on multiple accounts in multiple locations… things get a bit dicey.

In reality, account sharing probably doesn’t hurt WG’s bottom line. Even people selling rerolls or main accounts are unlikely to be hurting them majorly because those accounts still have time and or cash invested to build them - and it is more “players” and more player hours logged.

IMO, WG’s general policy through EULA for selling or sharing accounts to be prohibited, makes sense. But in general, we know WG could track and penalise these activities on a truly massive scale if they wanted to.

The only time we really see (or at least are aware of) penalties being imposed is when anti-EULA behaviour is linked to esports tournaments for $$$ at higher levels (top 8) / OR in truly insane cases with people pushing toxicity or account trading too far.

As a rule of thumb - absolutely do not share accounts in the top 8.

[remote wharf]

don’t even share accounts at all during the period of the tournament season

[steel shell]

?😂

[glass thunder]

with android 10 and +, devices have unique ID for same version of app only if u remove app and install it again u get new unique_id

[fast hare]

Алимжан#4633 has been warned.

[thorn shale]

Do we know yet who will be streaming NA?

[modest whale]

I hope it is fishy

[winter swallow]

I am available to stream/help cover NA on the 25th as it is a Friday.

[spark pumice]

LETS GOOO

[rare trellis]

SwarmingRoll

[pastel tartan]

34 said he'd do most/all of NA

[thorn shale]

@winter swallow @pastel tartan ok thanks.

[narrow meteor]

Gonna be focused on who comes out of group D

[mellow belfry]

Make a bet, who will come out chip ?

[narrow meteor]

I can’t make bets about peoples sexualities

[summer ibex]

That is very considerate of you 🙏

[proud holly]

Oh it’s that type of coming out

[young fox]

Hi I need a tour guide

[mellow belfry]

Thanks for your wisdom

[narrow meteor]

Anytime brother

[grand pumice]

Of this server?

[tepid island]

Guys I am so excited to see the outcome of group D

[young fox]

For the tournament

[untold tinsel]

what is siriuses @

[summer ibex]

@untold tinsel ^

[untold tinsel]

@muted ore I would like the name of the -MM team participating in the money blaster final to be changed from “Harambes OF” to “Moonmen”. Please get back to me soon

[modest whale]

🥴

[scenic gyro]

@muted ore I would like the name of HATED team participating in the money blaster final on NA to be changed from “Kids See Ghosts” to “BingQiLin.” Please get back to us as well.

[patent karma]

🦉

[narrow meteor]

stop

[modest whale]

Don't bully Sirius.

[scenic gyro]

No like acutally though, we need a name change; we thought WG would let us register the team ourselves again but it does appear to be the case that it doesnt

[ancient shard]

Yea that’s what we thought too

[patent quartz]

so if i'm using 2 different devices during the same tournament but at the same location i should be fine, right? cuz i asked it multiple times in this channel since it's something i'm about to have and as u can probably tell i'm not looking forward to be deprivated from my prize pool and (possibly) banned from CW

[wicked pasture]

Yeah youll be fine

[spark pumice]

😩 🍿

[proud holly]

I'm actually interested in what the results of Group 1 would be like
Groups 2 and 3 you can kind of figure out who's most likely to emerge as the finalist.
The other two, not so much.

[modest whale]

I want to ride on a metro

[scenic gyro]

Im rooting for slg even tho they might be weak

[spark pumice]

trust 🤝

[grand pumice]

I hope the winner wins

[barren imp]

i will be streaming every day for the tournament. first two days i will cover group 1

[proud holly]

tyvm

[simple grove]

I like group D!

[summer ibex]

SLG is solid, we scrimmed them tonight. A lot of their players have good experience under their belts, so even if they are out of practice (which I don’t believe they are) they understand roles well. It will be fun to see who comes out on top!

@N.Z.#1459 they are good with triple lights, and yes, the spice is appreciated

[proud holly]

I'm rooting for SLG because they always have interesting lineups

[summer ibex]

I’m rooting for HATED because as a member of the ELEV team, I’m a fan of upsets 👀 (and Atomic is swag)

[tepid island]

I agree with whalelegs [-ELEV], I am rooting for [HATED] … especially Derpy_Narwals [HATED] because of his superb ability to ammorack tanks

[proud holly]

I am not rooting for [HATED] because none of them are above 6 ft

[summer ibex]

That’s what I would expect, tbh… most blitz players have only 2 feet

[sinful crest]

@thorn shale

[winter swallow]

Consider contacting @muted ore directly and explaining your situation to avoid any issues. Let WG advise you on best course.

[winter swallow]

Tbh I want to see his shrine to RNGesus so we can compare notes.

[primal talon]

So,I have 2 devices,one I use for watching ads etc at home and in school. I use the other device(the one I play on and that stays in the same location) is there a possibility I get a ban?

[viscid python]

No

[primal talon]

Good,good,wouldn't be very funny tbh if something like this happebs

[thorn salmon]

aslong as ur account doesnt jump to like the other side of the world in 5 minutes, u should be fine XD

[spring gale]

im rooting for 4px becuz ik sure is a better caller than assassin!

[proud holly]

But does 4px have the best light tank player on NA??

[spring gale]

no but my comp knowledge tells me that the best light tank player cannot outplay 7 players in a game!

[tame bone]

i mean... u can always appeal

[slate remnant]

my happy

[analog osprey]

Hahahhahah

[ember marlin]

_Sure for top 8!

[modest whale]

I too enjoy Tdub, especially when he plays light!

[ember marlin]

Tdub is the best light tank driver on the North American Server!

[analog osprey]

🥱

[harsh quail]

🧐

[echo seal]

@analog osprey

[limber lintel]

<@&481447501690568709>

[modest whale]

focus TheLightTank_

[gilded marsh]

is there a list of NA streamers for money blaster

[analog osprey]

I can stream if u want french commentary @gilded marsh

[gilded marsh]

i would love that

[modest whale]

I agree

[harsh quail]

👍

[modest whale]

I think TheBlueMamba should stream a player perspective!

[thorn shale]

🦽

[daring flume]

When are regularly scheduled tournaments going to start back up

[summer ibex]

Group D 💀

[sinful crest]

Factual no captual NA ain’t ready for all this smoke

[simple grove]

Lmao “Factual no captual”

[fast hare]

fedorrastopsha#0174 has been warned.

[patent quartz]

tried to reach out to them twice here, and also tried in Dms but never got any answer what so ever

[winter swallow]

Ask @leaden belfry to assist - she OP.

[leaden belfry]

@patent quartz as in getting a new device?

Wg looks at consistency with these things. If you switch device and then consistently play on that one, while remaining in the same location, you should be fine

Wg mainly gets confused if you move -and- use a different device

[serene crystal]

for what it's worth, in the previous challenger tournament I changed devices couple times (same location). no issues for me

[patent quartz]

alright thanks for the clarification

[leaden belfry]

You're welcome =)

[gaunt palm]

good wg there is that this tournament is encounter and there is no yukon on 2nd screenshot how 😂

[grave raven]

thanks dude

[summer ibex]

is it really encounter?

Edit: I now realize this was for last night's quick tournaments... we are good XD

[modest whale]

I hate tournaments

[alpine shard]

Calm down

[modest whale]

Who's kiiijoy

[unique shard]

What?

[fast hare]

BadSTFU❄🔥#9769 has been warned.

Tonii [PDF]#8717 has been warned.

[outer isle]

Really??

[olive pewter]

Are there any clans I can join for tournaments?

[primal talon]

He joined another clan,therefore looses all unique customizations and 50% of the prizes he would recive

[covert flax]

That is hella unfortunate 😂

[proud holly]

Can't he just join back?

[fallow turret]

Message @proud holly to join HATED for a reason

[spark pumice]

I second this I believe HATED is recruiting members currently @proud holly is the person you want to talk to

[ancient shard]

@proud holly is indeed the person you want to talk to for tournaments

[orchid spear]

Yes ask @proud holly to join our qt tonight

[untold tinsel]

@muted ore

[modest whale]

@proud holly is a real nice guy

[proud holly]

I am nuking my team immediately, good bye forver

[ancient shard]

@opaque heart

[scenic gyro]

Ask @fallow turret to join PONDA flopped

[summer ibex]

Ask DroodlesYT to join MYSTC

[harsh quail]

I agree, make sure you message @proud holly for recruitment.

[modest whale]

I am going to message him immediately

[scenic gyro]

I do not think Mr. Blue WN8 meets the requirements for us, @olive pewter you may go ahead and apply to PNCR as they may need your experience

[harsh quail]

😬

[winged saffron]

I believe that you should have to stick to the original name

[mossy rain]

Suppo

[bleak wind]

Petition to make spring season 2022 tier 6. I think it would be a good change from the usual tier X

[brittle bloom]

Wait what how
In Asia, those who left the clan just got kicked out of the team automatically I think.
Some of the teams here have only 9 players in team

[proud holly]

<@&481447501690568709> resolved

[merry blade]

this is why you don't snitch

[hexed siren]

@proud holly why do u not want people receiving free nitros??

[proud holly]

cuz i am grinch

[raven cypress]

my team god

[raven cypress]

my name 5910137 gold please give me I want to bring the smasher back please

[winter swallow]

Peak tournament discussions.

In other news - having the Money Blaster format cover 2 weeks and be entirely double elimination has thus far proven to be a success.

Looking at EU - I feel like the rest of the tournament should play out very fairly and nicely. Are NA and APAC the same?

[crisp shore]

Too many surplus matches for both APAC and NA. I would rather have a longer stage 1 to give more competition and allow teams to play more games.

[winter swallow]

I mean how do NA and APAC look now we are in top 16? Is the system fair for teams overall and that made it this far?

[crisp shore]

I heard an AFK team in stage 2 made Money Blaster Final on APAC so I think there needs to be more matches to rule that out potentially. Both APAC and NA have an extra stage 3 which is purely used for seeding, so I think it would be fairer if we actually have a format that selects the first few teams and a last chance tournament for the remaining teams.

[fallow raptor]

ye an afk team made it to the final

[lunar ibex]

Who for the tournement Tier V at VI come now just one place mp me

[fast hare]

Aleks..#5898 has been warned.

[steel shell]

Lmao

[barren imp]

i lied to you all... the other day i said im covering group 2. i am in fact covering group 1, following LVG tmw

[modest whale]

I think Group D is the most important group to stream!

[mellow belfry]

Remove the rule of “5 games minimum to get rewards” thanks

[fickle thicket]

Play 5 games then, unless the captain is on purpose or due to bad stats during matches, not letting u play then, 🤷‍♂️

[rare trellis]

Most if not all professional teams have a “starting 7” players who play in most of the high intensity high risk matches. seeing as how this tournament is the final they would most likely want to play that starting 7 the majority of the time since there’s a lot on the line.

[fickle thicket]

Perhaps, though by "play" 5 matches I'm assuming spectating counts too, doesn't it? Issue would be if u don't even do that i believe 🤔

[tawdry inlet]

Spect doesn't count probably

[mellow belfry]

Idk if u see any esports or sports games. Theres a thing called “main” roster/players, and the bench ones. That’s how it works. If the team sees they need bench players, then they put them in. If not, the main ones will play until the end of the match.
This 5 games rule is the worst i saw in all my years at CW

@analog osprey u dont know about it bro? xd

[fickle thicket]

I know that much, i just simply used to be in a few teams(though they never got to top 10) that swapped between bench players even in serious matches 🤔 so i sort of forgot most just simply play the same 7 players till they're drained and THEN use bench players

[mellow belfry]

having a core of 6-7 players is what makes good teams. Ofc u must have good bench players that can be swapped if needed, but having a main roster helps a lot

Now as captain ill have to be counting that everyone gets their 5 games so they get the rewards. Its really stupid. I shouldn’t worry about this thing… i should be focusing on just winning , anyways wg as always with op decisions

[winter swallow]

I have to agree. Reserves are reverses by name, for a reason.

[serene crystal]

agreed. Thinking about rotations shouldnt have to be a priority over winning

[burnt glacier]

I agree. Pointless rule
This rule just make teams do not need rotations

[hexed siren]

While the rule is very dumb and should be scrapped, the groups are double elemination bo7 so teams could ideally use their reserves in upper bracket games and get their 5 matches over with and then play seriously with main 7?

Ik it's dumb but that could potentially be the best out of a bad situation

@serene crystal I completely agree with you. It shouldn't exist at all but it does so some solution needs to be found. On Asia, you can get away with that bc not all teams are competitive (tsk tsk some afk teams made it to top 16) but it's gonna be troublesome for eu and cis teams like suggu said

[dim pivot]

I doubt they wud wanna do that on eu or cis, where all of top 16 is competitive

[limber lintel]

Technically its enough matches, but actually managing it between battles is just so stupid, like you want to focus on looking at the strats, picking the lineup, not focus on swapping players

[serene crystal]

1. it's risky
2. does that dilute the essence of a competitive competiton? just a question

@hexed siren yep. As has been mentioned to me, WG implement this rule so that teams (u know who) can't take players to get the rewards without playing

[hexed siren]

Yes to both the questions imo. If they wanted to keep minimum games, I'd have preferred it if they did it in earlier stages

@serene crystal but they're trying to fix a problem by creating a even bigger one

[primal talon]

True,I fully agree with you considering it was never like that before. I do hope they remove that rule,as there is no reason for that

[cobalt yarrow]

@muted ore u will keep that rule or change it , i don't think any team want that rule anyways

[rare trellis]

if ur gonna have any rule it should just be that ur in the tourney room and not just afk riding to rewards. there shouldn’t be a requirement for battles in high level comp

[thorn shale]

Why’d a team have reserve players below the level of main 7? If reserves aren’t meant to play you shouldn’t have put them in the team in the first place lol
I think it’s reasonable your friends aren’t getting rewards just because they’re your friends

[primal talon]

Ya know,some people have to work or some different emergencies,for that case there are reserve players. The main argument is that you shouldnt have to worry about who played what games so everyone gets rewards,it's just a useless rule that was never used before,and no one complained or asked for such a useless rule

[fallow turret]

You should have to play to get rewards and if ur a team that's expecting to do well all 10 of ur players should be good enough it's not an issue

[rare trellis]

Dude most teams have tryouts and they find the 10 best players out of those. Regardless there is always going to be 7 people who are slightly more reliable than others that the team can rely on more in high intensity situations.

[burnt glacier]

Most of team based on some 7 players (+/-2) which are best among 10.
As some players said above reserve players for situations when main players out by some reason

[thorn shale]

Is it only my life that is peaceful or people have emergency everyday

[mellow belfry]

Ppl have things called work, sports trainings, big exams, etc. and the chance of having bad connection is always there. In every single team game there are reserve players, just saying 👍

[thorn shale]

There’re, but I’ve never seen them actually playing (at least back when I was watching league). Imo the whole reserve player concept is dumb and 1 spare player should be enough

[mellow belfry]

Ok I guess you are right and the whole esports/sports teams just have wrong concept XD

[rare trellis]

bruh it’s a 7v7 game and the teams have 10 players on them. how do u expect there to be only one reserve

[ancient shard]

I think he’s saying that every player except for 1 gets consistently rotated and plays frequently

[burnt glacier]

@muted oreHello
If player left clan and join back he will get 50% of rewards and lose unique rewards?

[old rose]

Is free cam on android

[grand pumice]

No, only on PC

[proud holly]

Would’ve made sense for it to be 5-8 battles across perhaps the qualifiers and finals. But reserving it for the finals is bound to mean some sort of limit in capita. At least for some games.

[gilded marsh]

is there a list of which streamers are streaming each group tomorrow?

[barren imp]

Group 1: _34
Group 2: Amaunet
Group 3: rrobert
Group 4: N9N9N9

[modest whale]

I cannot wait to watch the riveting gameplay in Group D!

[sinful crest]

Fishy isn’t streaming?

[ancient shard]

I think all 4 streamers should have streamed group D, the other groups won’t be as exciting

[barren imp]

according to the spreadsheet i have, he didnt sign up

[sinful crest]

@flat goblet 😔

5 game rule is stupid unless u make every set a bo9

[thorn shale]

100% agree

[flat goblet]

what spreadsheet

[barren imp]

dms

[tame bone]

Is it coz ur spec?

😂😂 jk ❤️

[maiden anvil]

bruh

[brittle wing]

@solemn nexus i’m a huge fan of that p||q||p too

[narrow meteor]

@mellow belfry I agree with whatever you say, your opinion is my opinion

[muted ore]

@untold tinsel, @scenic gyro Hello. We will not change the names of the teams. We announced in advance that the teams will participate in the "Final" tournament in the same way as in the "Open" tournament.

@cobalt yarrow, @analog osprey Hello. This rule is in effect in the Money Blaster Final tournament and we will not cancel it. Whether this rule will be in future major tournaments I can't tell you right now.

@burnt glacier Hello. If a player leaves the clan during a tournament and then comes back, he will lose 50% of the in-game awards (and all unique awards) in each stage of this Tournament. All players of the team must be in the same clan from the start until the end of the tournament.

[muted ore]

@silver beacon Hi, no

[open latch]

Can someone be in a coin blaster team and same time play 2v2 tour today?

[muted ore]

No

[open latch]

Okey thx also well dane guys the mm in coin blaster is very balanced

[sinful crest]

I like the money blaster tournament format can we have more of these @muted ore

[muted ore]

@sinful crest Maybe )

[brittle wing]

i think i’d really enjoy them, if only they didn’t all have to take place at the same time of day 😦

[primal talon]

True

[narrow tiger]

Exactly

[burnt glacier]

Can you explain point of this rule? Why should people make rotation cause rule make them but not the need to win

[muted ore]

@burnt glacier Teams can choose whatever tactics they think are right and effective.
This rule is intended to ensure that cosmetic awards go to those who actually play in the tournament.

[sinful crest]

@muted ore wait just to get this straight, if you don’t play the 5 games you only lose out on the camouflages?

[muted ore]

Yes

[gray pond]

Players are not happy about this rule, why not delete it?

[muted ore]

I stated above the reason why this rule was introduced. Therefore, this rule will remain in the tournament.

[sinful crest]

Honestly the rule isn’t that big of a deal, as long as you play your full team the first couple days you should be fine to run a main 7 later on in the tournament

[burnt glacier]

@analog osprey on Europe it's just a bit rare in compare to CIS.
Anyway such rules are common for all servers.

[simple tusk]

wg changed alot of rules only coz cis server dont know what is fair play. its not first and not last time

[brittle wing]

offensive language and imagery

[daring dune]

Sorry, what rule did you guys talk about?

[tropic vapor]

@daring dune

[daring dune]

thank you

[hexed siren]

these 'spots' are also being sold on asia for $200 every season

[proud holly]

imagine spending 200$ for a spot when you could've just afk'd your way into the finals

[thorn shale]

In Europe selling spots is also a thing, I mean look at BPS

[mellow belfry]

❤️

[burnt glacier]

Or APA

[gleaming schooner]

So the qualifying battles should also be counted, because "they actually played" in those battles aswell

[burnt glacier]

@gleaming schooner I'm sure you will get answer, smth like ...
There were no camo rewards for qualifying battles so there is no connection
I actually, didn't get answer on my question, why should I play any battle at final stage if I already reached final stage where for any place I can get camo. Why should I play for it again... Answer from WG: Play just to play...

[pastel tartan]

Will be covering the CIS Money Blaster in English if anyone cares to care 👀

Today i follow PINK- and tomorrow Group 4

[gleaming schooner]

Yes, exactly, the Cyber Winter camo and 2k gold is actually a reward for playing the qualifying battles, because even if you lose all the battles in the final stage you will get those rewards anyways

[gilded marsh]

@untold tinsel hello member of the team [-MM] Harambes OF

@pastel tartan which teams will you be streaming

[pastel tartan]

Also doing EU loca after, completely forgot

[gray pond]

👍
Who are the other streamers?

I mean for RU server

[opaque heart]

Broadcasts: https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/481780881543921664/945275938566967326

[opaque heart]

🇷🇺 M_E_F_O_D_Y — https://youtu.be/SdZdmPyQtrk — Group B
🇷🇺 Pyroblast — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3XfTXzhzfo — Group C
🇬🇧 3very — https://www.twitch.tv/3very_good_name_is_taken — Group D

[pastel tartan]

^ correct, fast reply thanks

[gray pond]

Thank you

[mellow belfry]

Have wg thought about making different rules and formats for each server? Just think about the differences between the 4 servers… makes sense to have different formats and rules adapted to number of players, etc of each server. Imo is a good idea but ofc would take more time….

And for that you can hire Wildoneshelper who is best at formats and rules for tournaments. Idk why wg dont ask for his opinion more frequently. He carries asia na and eu every season… he posts tables, chances of each team, brackets, etc. Wg needs to talk to him if they want to improve CW faster and better. And i think a lot of top players think same as i do on this.

[wind kestrel]

Looking for team members for tournament coin blaster #3 X, on asia server or a team to join

[opaque heart]

Dear players! We want to clarify our position on the 5-battles rule.

Most of you will agree that unique items should be given to the players who lead the team to victory and play in real matches.
Exactly this way we reward players with truly rare camouflages. The backup players who don’t participate in real battles but support their team will receive the remaining rewards.

Hint for your team: create a table of matches and follow it all together. Ask your backup players to keep tracking the amount of battles they play. We believe, that these actions will not affect the strategies in any way but you will properly distribute the work among your team.

Good luck on the battlefields!

[thorn shale]

@tidal lichen

[vital obsidian]

A normal team consist of 7 core players and reservs. The reservs are important to have for exeptional circumstances, as if core players have net fail or irl issues, and they should be rewarded for all the work they done same as the core players. In a main tour the core ofc should play all important matches, if they can. The Money Blaster Finals has only important matches, at least on EU, and the teamleader has certainly more important things to do than to estimate when he can afford to replace a core player. This rule should be removed immediatley and the issue of selling spots should be solved by other means.

[serene crystal]

Can say for my team: we wouldn’t be in the final blaster without the full group being able to play at various points, so for potentially some to miss out on rewards due to this rule is harsh to say the least.

[inland condor]

^ + to say that it ‚won‘t impact the tactics‘ ~ wgmessage, is wrong. If you have instead ur 3 best players the 3 worst players you will most likely not win vs good teams. So why should the 3 worst play if the others can play? They‘re here for the case that top7 can‘t play and ready on stand-by so they should get rewards too without playing 5 games….

[simple tusk]

3 best and 3 worst players its completely different teams

[untold storm]

Should be at least reduced to 3 battles per player

[wet tide]

Getting a certain position is a team effort, the whole team should be rewarded. Easy as that

[merry blade]

Is there a specific reason why they changed the number of battles you have to participate to get rewards? Cause I remember last winter season in 2021 you had to play like 2-3 games and whatever your team placed you would get those corresponding rewards

[leaden belfry]

This is a rule that punishes the good guys/teams with good intentions, while aimed at the guys that sell/buy those slots to get those rewards

back when it happened on EU, it was a huge deal and a lot of drama in this channel, because someone who didn't earn it at all got very rare pro rewards. WG is basically damned if they implement this rule, and damned if they don't implement it. There's no win situation

[tawdry inlet]

You had to play 2 or 3 qualifiers to get the rewards at the end of the season

[covert flax]

Idk about most teams, But the 10 players on my team, all play regardless of reserve or not. All 10 of us fought our way to top 16 and money blaster finals. Seems scuffed to give it to only a few because they got the battle count before the others.

[serene crystal]

Perhaps would’ve made more sense to have the minimum battles requirement apply over both tournaments. Would help the situation considerably

[leaden belfry]

that wouldn't solve it either though. In the first two days of qualifiers, the competition is, let's say, not the best. You could put one or two potatoes in your team and still win gloriously. The buying and selling of slots would still happen easily then

just to clarify - I'm not happy with this rule either, but I get why it's there, and I'd happily opt for an alternative solution, but I've no idea how wg could solve the problem without this rule

[merry blade]

But pro accounts are bought and sold all the time, seems redundant to even attempt to censor this at all imo.

@tawdry inlet was that the case though? Cause I remember my team discussing this and we learned that to get the bench players rewards they needed to play in both the qualifying and final tournaments
Edit. Perhaps I’m wrong

[zealous trellis]

You’re being benched remember?

[leaden belfry]

that's a whole other issue, tbh... but definitely an issue too

[covert flax]

@zealous trellis @silver beacon Ik which is why it’s scuffed for me 😭

[crisp mirage]

@opaque heart is that rule only for True chellenger camo or for winter cyber camo to?

[faint ingot]

I disagree, my team is complete garbage

[jolly kite]

Noice position ☺️☺️

[thorn shale]

Both

[crisp mirage]

@thorn shale hahahahah nice🤣

[serene crystal]

Yeah you raise a good point, and I understand why the rule is there. I would still say it isn’t worth punishing everyone because a few people sold some spots, but yes it’s a grey area
@leaden belfry

[unique shard]

half camouflage

[opaque heart]

This rule was announced from the very beginning of the tournament. You and your players should have read the regulations and information, right? Why should I go to the server and repeat the same?

[cobalt yarrow]

Considering caller will not be subbed , we have 6 place and 9 player for each game and you can finish tournament with 8 game and you try to let every player played 5 game , is this looks like logic? @opaque heart

[inland condor]

well it doesn’t rlly matter when the rule got implemented, cuz its certainly not a rule that will bring the compscene forward. Its just a step backwards. now clans have to gamble: make sure everyone gets rewards but not high ranking vs maybe get better results with only the best player but only 7 receive them

[urban river]

As usual, that is a Lose from you guys, you keep deteriorating the clan war with such things, a team is a main 7 and 3 substitutes, nothing else so now we need to let our substitutes play the main games and risk losing all of this because otherwise they wouldn’t win sh*t

[hexed siren]

The team in question was using 5 kranvagns today to play city on Middleburg or so I happened to watch on stream. They're revolutionizing the new Asian meta

Spoiler alert: they lost 0-4 both games

[fickle thicket]

So wait, the only rewards you don't get for missing 5 matches is some camos, so what's the big deal about it 🤔

[opaque heart]

This post is here in the pinned posts.

[summer ibex]

This is really quite disrespectful to WG who did their best to publish clear and accurate information in a timely manner. Tolyan told you where to find the information, and if you don’t like it, perhaps you should retire!

It’s your own responsibility to read and understand the regulations. ❤️

[hexed siren]

@opaque heart whats done is done but please consider removing this rule from the next set of major tournaments. We know paid spots are a problem but this is not the solution to the problem. It creates a bigger problem for every team

[limber lintel]

Its a rule that punishes all teams to try and put a marginal damper on the account trading or roster place buying, it's pointless really, it's just annoying to have to manage the amount of games people played, the lineups, go through the strat one last time etc.

All these things have to happen in like what 2 minutes between battles, it's just gonna be so hectic between games and for what reason really? Is it really gonna stop account trading you reckon?

[opaque heart]

Yes, it's important, we'll think about additional channel.

[fickle thicket]

Well, i guess those fancy camos that are gonna be available for money in 1/2 years are worth that much to ya, i understand i guess 🤔

[opaque heart]

We'll analyze the feedback and results of the tournament.

[cobalt yarrow]

@opaque heart this rule can be acceptable on round robin system when teams play atleast more than 20+ games ,but considering teams can eliminate with 8 games this rules is looks not good at all

[grim shadow]

Are they really?

[summer ibex]

Even teams that get swept (0-8), have enough games (8 games * 7 players = 56 games) to have every player of a full roster (10 players) play 5 games. 10 players * 5 games is only 50 games, and 56 games are supplied, so there’s actually 6 surplus games with proper rotations of players.

[fickle thicket]

They sold ratings camo's, what's stopping them?

[scenic gyro]

this doesnt make sense because its double elim, if you lost all 8 in a row your out because its best out of 7, therefore how do players get battles in?

[primal talon]

But can you keep tract of that,while switching out players,discussing tactics and so on? Will be a bit problematic,imo round Robin or 5min before battle would be a good idea to solve the problem in the future

[hexed siren]

yea but they were available for season coins and you cant buy season coins with cash so is that really devaluing it?

[slim blade]

simply decreasing the amount of battles required would pretty much fix the issue. 2-3 battles is manageable for teams (albeit slightly annoying) whilst teams which have paid spots are going to suffer the consequences of having a paid player on their team.

[summer ibex]

The maps are all announced beforehand. I suggest you plan ahead, and all will be well.

@scenic gyro read my previous message

[untold tinsel]

the only solution to this would be a round robin final bruh

[fickle thicket]

It's not about whether it loses value or not, fact is, the only way you will acquire them Is NOT necessarily only this tourney, there's prob gonna be other ways to get them even if it takes less time or effort than paying for joining a team or sweating real hard in tourney.

[gleaming pollen]

It is possible that everyone plays 5 games in 8 matches even if caller isnt substituted

[grave raven]

@opaque heart are you male or female just wondering should i use he or she 🙂

[tawdry inlet]

Yes but the fact u have to put reserve players to play vs big teams when your main 7 can play is a bit of a problem tbh

[opaque heart]

You can use any variant 🙂

[hexed siren]

yes it is, if a team loses both games 0-4, its 8 games total. 8 * 6 players = 48 spots. 9 players need to play atleast 5 games so that 45 games. There's still 3 extra games. So even if the caller isnt substituted, all the players can get atleast 5 matches if planned correctly

[gleaming pollen]

you can actually have 2 players playing every game

[royal cradle]

Lol does it matter

[thorn shale]

Cyber winter too@valid adder

[primal talon]

Cyber too :/

[winter swallow]

good luck to all Money Blasting teams for the final tournament o7

[grave raven]

read 1st sentence before jumping to 2nd

[primal talon]

Somewhere else in the detailed version it says u need 5 games so u get camo

[thorn shale]

Lmaooo

[gray pond]

^

[tame bone]

Cowardo drew this 😂😂😂👌

Systematic coherence I guess

[gleaming schooner]

No

[grim shadow]

Ratings camos aren’t as valuable because anyone could get to 4-5k rating and get them, and the effort needed is not the same as what people need for these tournament camos.

[covert flax]

It wasn’t cowardo 😂 it was whalelegs

[fickle thicket]

You're right, but just like m60, ratings was something supposedly only "limited" to those who obtained it by achieving x things or just bc, which then later on got removed from the 'limited' section and became available to almost anyone , they don't seem very good at keeping things unique to people who earn them through some effort, whatever it may be.

[nocturne shell]

Useless discussion. WG put the 5 battle rule in place. Most of the teams won’t have 8 or even 10 substitutes. Means they have to use their main team. Even when there are more battles you should consider how many „unimportant“ battles you will have in the Finals. Unimportant in meaning not relevant for max success. So WG pushes teams into a decision whether to play on max success (e-sports) or to enable all members to get rewards. I have a clear view on this. It’s WG „fault“ and should not hinder my mates for max success. Ofc you can compare to soccer WC. All members of the winner team will get the medal independent if they played. But it was up to WG to make this rule. They clearly stated out they won’t change. So each team has to handle. WG can change everything, but neither more time between the battles nor something else will solve this issue. When 5 battles are required to get the camo, each team has to prioritize. Sad but true 🙂

[mellow belfry]

I dont think you understand what means being reserve. Its as important as a captain. But it has different role in the team. I totally disagree with you here im sorry. Thanks for your work and hopefully you ask for feedback to top players and streamers for next seasons. And by this i mean talks in discord, not surveys asking general stuff. Have a good evening !

[tame bone]

ahh well he posted it in our TC

[covert flax]

Ya now worries. Cowardo is a friend!

[wind kestrel]

how can I join tournaments. I too want be in some team.

[hexed siren]

#tourneys-team-search

[summer ibex]

This picture I drew is slightly inaccurate as it did not account for the fact that only 2 players can rotate each match. It still works with only 2 rotations per match, but it is important to note that inaccuracy. Apologies for the mistake.

[grim shadow]

The tournament camos are quite different to any of those. Ratings and the M60 didn’t take much effort in comparison. The M60 was a freebie. Given to a variety of players after they messed up whatever criteria they had. The rating camo wasn’t even as rare as tournament camos are.

[thorn shale]

Based 👍

[fickle thicket]

Feel free to think however you please about my words, just don't quote me when they do sell them for ig currency or give them away for money or through lesser efforts

[hexed siren]

Is rolling not streaming the final stage? I didn't see him in today's games @winter swallow

[pastel tartan]

i do for him today, he will do the rest tho @hexed siren

[tepid trout]

is there a reason for being 0 spec spots in the finals? @opaque heart @muted ore

[mellow belfry]

Esports 🥱😴

[modest whale]

I support the 4PX clan in tonight's money blaster final!!!!

[covert flax]

Rip EF with 0 😂

[glad tartan]

enjoying very much

[limber lintel]

average excel enjoyer

edit: just so I don't get message removed for off-topic, this just shows why it's annoying tbh, 🙂

[covert flax]

Appreciate it 👍

[vital obsidian]

High class tournament manager

[thorn shale]

Have to say: nice

[glad tartan]

Its not my, but still.. Its bs, that we have to care about this stuff 😄

[outer isle]

So I'm going to play the final stage in 5 minutes and the game doesn't work

[mellow belfry]

WG: and this is why there are reserves

[brittle wing]

each one occurs at such a late hour, and i’m too invested by now to withdraw any of my funds and switch over to a different or better region

[covert flax]

Knowing me I’ll mess that up to 😂

[cobalt yarrow]

it says you got disconnected

[vague flare]

same xd

[glad tartan]

big brain time

[gray pond]

Thanks, didn't know it

[vague flare]

kinda funny when played battles are concerned for getting the cammos

[long meteor]

Thanks Wg for this servers i Play this funny money blaster and server rip

[narrow tiger]

Such a great rule

[outer isle]

you know what is kinda funny? @narrow tiger @vague flare

[narrow meteor]

What’s the problem? Just play 10 V 10

[long meteor]

Next funny thing i cant get invite for 5 minutes before battle starts
Thx again and see u in the spring

[inner socket]

U didn’t get ur 5 battles?

[mellow belfry]

Oh true. I didn’t think about it. Thanks chip! Useful tips as always 😎🤝

[tropic vapor]

Had the same problem..was ok after restart

[long meteor]

i get in first match

[glad tartan]

_MaxVerstappen33 — Today at 9:21 PM
it says you got disconnected

[long meteor]

@muted ore look

[cobalt yarrow]

Thanks , did'nt know it

[tame ibex]

I have the same issue

[outer isle]

I make strats dm me if needed

[burnt glacier]

@muted ore nice rule tho
How do you want to deal with players who got crush, like it happens in a few teams? I guess rule about 5 camos still awesome?))

[sinful crest]

^

[inner socket]

How much players lost that camo cuz of server issues?

[narrow tiger]

Two of our players had same issue in our team

[calm atlas]

Just make it to tie breaker like us so u can play more games😎

[regal remnant]

in our team 2 didn’t make it to 5 games

[burnt glacier]

Look Amaunet's stream
Our player just logged out for 1 min XDDD
Not saying about results of battle just about totally retarded rule

[tawdry inlet]

We used same strats 🤝

[tame bone]

@burnt glacier do u have any players who didn’t play full 5?

[mellow belfry]

big brain , nice strategy

[vague flare]

it wasnt for us

[gray pond]

EU community ❤️

[spark pumice]

throw matches for more games played EZ🤝

stupid rules = stupid solutions

[cobalt yarrow]

7tvp good for throwing

[tropic vapor]

F

[burnt glacier]

@tame boneCause of WG we carry this trash rule XDDD

[vague flare]

i bet that >66% of eu teams wouldnt let you win the last one back🌚

[wraith relic]

Well i cant log on my Account either or even watch my stats with my second acc hmm

[tame bone]

Omg that’s so annoying.

[patent quartz]

servers down? can't connect

[thorn salmon]

ye its down rn

[regal remnant]

😅

[outer isle]

Nice popi popi move 😂

Btw when will we be able to leave our team? After the end of the tournament right?

[scenic thorn]

I smell a tournament restart

[tawdry inlet]

Why would they, games were still 7vs7 so well

[tame bone]

Because they have before

[tepid trout]

for real?

[tame bone]

Yeah last winter season they did. During the most important time of tournament all games that went 2-1 in the finals of PYS for cups has to be redone which drastically changed the outcomes.

[tepid trout]

oh wow, didnt know that happened before, thanks for informing

[scenic thorn]

Bring back winter season bruh

[merry blade]

Yo where pfp from? im interested

[tame bone]

Ok I’ll do that

[scenic thorn]

Too late now, I'm waiting for 2023

[scenic thorn]

Do you still need it?

[merry blade]

👉 👈 if you would good sir supply me with the picture

[modest whale]

oh my oh my

[rare trellis]

✊🏿

[barren imp]

group 1 stream starting now!

[narrow meteor]

https://www.twitch.tv/34wotb

[summer ibex]

How to throw: illustrated

[thorn shale]

Group D is a very exciting group to watch

[muted ore]

@tepid trout In major tournaments, spectator slots remain for streamers.

[muted ore]

There were no mass problems on the servers. As I said before, the rule remains in effect.

[burnt glacier]

Ah
No massive problems.
Hahah okay

[grave raven]

Why not add special "media"slot for streamers and WG people ? They are many ways to implement this easily within the game without much work.

[inner socket]

Lel, was impossible to join for hours and there were no problem in sever? Lmao

[primal talon]

Not at all😂💀

[untold storm]

I still cant join the game what to do if this happens in mid of tour today

[gray pond]

Then you should check https://discord.com/channels/481445776178806785/585463961730940929

[burnt glacier]

@gray pond bad wifi, restart pls XDDD
Servers are working awesome
Can't log in with my mobile data

[muted ore]

@gray pond We will send the information to the technical specialists. Thank you.

[sudden bough]

What was the issue with camos?

[raven marlin]

Hello if you leave your clan after getting eliminated in monkey blaster do u still get rewards

[tame bone]

50%

[raven marlin]

Even after we have battled all our battles

[burnt glacier]

@raven marlin wait when it will be finished officially. So final battles will be played and icon of tournament will not be showed in your garage.

[winter swallow]

Best typo

[twilit timber]

Well, today have play in tournament but how?🤔

[untold storm]

Same here @muted ore

[muted ore]

@untold storm@twilit timber Provide your game nicknames, please.

[untold storm]

Epeltastic

[thorn shale]

If we lose the coinblaster once, do we get another opportunity?

[light aspen]

Seems that tournament invitations are bugged again, some of the players dont receive them.

[late jacinth]

???

[modest whale]

where fishy stream ☹️

[mellow belfry]

Tournaments 😎

[slim socket]

Group D is the epitome of competitive gameplay

[covert flax]

Group D is insane!!!!

[modest whale]

-VNTI

[ancient shard]

Group D > Group A

[spark pumice]

Watching group D is exciting

[modest whale]

I can't wait to watch N9's stream of Group D.

[terse perch]

🤠

[pastel tartan]

streaming CIS in english in a moment https://www.twitch.tv/3very_good_name_is_taken

[static lodge]

poor MeowkittyNumber1Fan [JKR].

[clever scarab]

Who even is in group D

[upper oar]

-ELEV, -VNTI, -SLG, METRO for NA

[gilded marsh]

rooting for 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 in group D

[clever scarab]

Oh…I see

[upper oar]

truly the epitome of NA comp

[glass thunder]

@muted ore @opaque heart we have important tournament rn ( coins blaster ) and we didn't get invites for room

[modest whale]

rooting for 🦀 🦀 in group D

[harsh quail]

Go 🇧🇷

[upper oar]

is slg Brazilian?

[modest whale]

yes

[upper oar]

hell yeah let’s go SLG campeões mundiais 🇧🇷

[boreal dew]

Ggs hated and jkr