#tourneys-discussion

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modest whale
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I think Oliver Tree should commentate NA Blitz Cup finals.

winter swallow
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https://youtu.be/R1JXxxm3thE I still think Tommy Cash, Little Big and Oliver Tree for next Twister would be epic.

Directed by Alina Pasok, Oliver Tree & Iliya Prusikin

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slim blade
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That is the most random music I have ever heard

chilly hemlock
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There is a general chat for a reason….

modest whale
vital obsidian
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Any stream tonight?

pastel tartan
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@vital obsidian fugit jack and noobeater from what i know

thorn shale
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what is that

modest whale
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it's their 22nd test for spring season 2022.

thorn shale
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why you playing wot in window xD?

scenic thorn
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windows 7 for the win

rocky crystal
thorn shale
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@merry blade hey ! How is your team performing this season?

merry blade
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like any other team would if you lost your main players/ them not being able to play 😐

rare trellis
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kinda a dumb question breh

red vapor
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deserved

proud holly
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@muted ore question, if a player plays a championship for a different clan,
can he still recieve rewards from participating in a championship as long as he has participated in 3+ pys's?

untold tinsel
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yes

rare trellis
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L

magic kraken
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o7 apes eat grapes

fallow turret
rocky crystal
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Comp anyone?

sonic flame
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Who's streaming today?

pastel tartan
sonic flame
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ty

vital obsidian
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Nice cowerage, thanks streamers!

slender frost
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@regal frost

plain token
outer isle
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ok

steel shell
pale finch
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I agree with Daniel

mellow belfry
scenic thorn
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Better luck next time for top 32.

fresh lance
# plain token

Damn your server has enough clans to fill lower echelon

tardy bay
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My clan made Top 8

outer isle
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@scenic thorn stupid emulator spammer
U rigged summer season top16😂

scenic thorn
versed field
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Can some1 post link to rules of autnumn tourney

rocky crystal
mellow belfry
tardy bay
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👍

potent magnet
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Mine did too

pastel tartan
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hey dont scare them away with your presence

proud holly
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no

tardy bay
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@silver beacon Hey,

modest whale
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I am a big fan of Sherman. He is an excellent tournament player.

pastel tartan
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lovely games to end of the EU PYS today, thanks to all the teams,players and the streamers for a great start into the autumn season! 😊

proven tartan
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Hi, just wondering if the maps listed in the description of the lower echelon championship will be the actual maps. Or is there any other way to find out?

proven tartan
limber lintel
rare trellis
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prolly robert

tardy bay
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sinful crest
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@tardy bay this server is english only, please don’t make me Ping the moderators.

tardy bay
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Please dont.

rare trellis
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@harsh quail i think u are a very exemplary caller

untold tinsel
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he is, he made top 8

gilded marsh
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can a player play top 4 on 3 servers

tardy bay
gilded marsh
tardy bay
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I like your thinking.

rocky crystal
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Why not 4 servers?

thorn shale
worn juniper
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When will wg show the ban list?

onyx merlin
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probably today

onyx merlin
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see who's the lucky boy

pale finch
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è_é

fluid pilot
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E

sinful crest
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@muted ore any updates on when blitzcup information will be released?

rough tusk
worn juniper
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<@&481447501690568709> scam

muted ore
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@thorn shale yes

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@sinful crest Next month.

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Good day everyone!

Unfortunately, during the 4th tournament of the "Prove your skill" series we received complaints and revealed violations by the clan - [REK3M].

The first rule of participating in Qualifying tournaments was violated:
"All insults connected to Players, Teams, Tournament Organizers and their employees, and tournament match streamers are prohibited. Any behavior that the Tournament Organizer may consider offensive and detrimental to the image of the Team and the Tournament Organizer is prohibited. Violation of this rule will result in the entire Team losing the points they earned in the tournament, which are required for promotion in the Hall of Fame. Depending on the violation of Game Rules, sanctions may be imposed on certain violators".

If this rule is violated, the team will be completely stripped of the cups received in the Tournament.

We ask all participants of the qualifying tournaments to be more serious and respectful to those around them and not to break any more rules.

rough tusk
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lmao big rip

long meteor
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Still XD first match asp vs A1n1

onyx merlin
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congrats to asp, and gg rekem. by the way, what they did?

iron peak
onyx merlin
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yeah, I see.... well I don't know. I never allow my guys talk to enemy (in moment) with risk

atomic drum
tardy bay
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Wow @analog osprey Explain

muted ore
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@atomic drum Hello.
This happened because a player on your team insulted your opponents.
It happened right in the tournament battles.

atomic drum
cyan timber
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I know shok he meant keep yourself safe cause we are in a pandemic

outer isle
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Now they will give u a cheeseburger as consolation

atomic drum
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In other words, don’t insult, unless you are in a top 3 clan.

muted ore
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@atomic drum I can't write insults in this chat room, even as an example.
I can only say that a complaint was received along with the battle replay.
At the end of the tournament battle, the last surviving player of your team insulted the opponents.

We do not penalize teams for slang language.
You wouldn't be penalized for a phrase like that either.

glass thunder
primal talon
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Makes sense

unique shard
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@burnt glacier gg
Ez top 16 😎

onyx merlin
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good news for asp

normal scroll
dire ingot
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

onyx merlin
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I mean wg has to follow the rules they did. ps: as long as eg don't come to challenger(just joking, for no misunderstand)

glass thunder
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tbh if one player only did say bad things its unfair to ban all team
same if insults are banned they should be for all

limber lintel
normal scroll
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then we can say the same to wg or other plays and it's okay ? of course it's not

primal talon
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I 100% agree with you,and stuff like this happens when you think it will finally be a good and normal season

onyx merlin
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@crisp shore hey wildo. can I get ur bot in my server? It will be my pleasure
sry to say something extra

limber lintel
charred veldt
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Hey chaps, how to participate Proffesional tourns, i dont had the ticket, any ways to get in? *im not a random 899 battles player with 45%er...

plz answer nice ;-; just wondering-
@modest whale oh well im clanless atm 😔
i just want pro avatar LMAO

twilit venture
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bruh

thorn salmon
modest whale
steel shell
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Fans union

urban river
warped patrol
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🥖

normal scroll
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i'll do tonight thanks for the advice ^^

versed field
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Biggest joke ever😂

charred veldt
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Me: wants pro avatar
clanless
cries
pro avatar is my dream for years jesuz ;-;

@modest whale no need bro, im ASIA player mostly,yet i used EU role since atm im fixing up my EU acc. soo

tame bone
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hmm

modest whale
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Someone from EG- should allow this person to join. He is clearly a very skilled and determined player.

steady estuary
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Lmao

spiral swallow
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lmao gotta love how eg is allowed to trashtalk and rekem got banned

vale bluff
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But we all know what is man meant right? Also ‘trash clan’ is and insult too

jolly kite
cyan timber
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Exactly i though it was obvious...the rest was slang too!

atomic drum
odd wolf
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😳

sinful crest
versed field
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So it was "keep yourself safe with ur balt trash clan"? XD

formal drift
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Hey @alpine delta,
I am a player of REK3M.
I was here during PYS #4 games, but can't quite remember what was said.
Is it possible that Heinztroll receive the replay so that we know what we did wrong? It sounds fair that the accusated clan at least knows why it received such penalties.

glass thunder
normal scroll
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Btw, PYS = Praise Your Self

tame bone
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wow, such a lovely person

cyan timber
fiery scarab
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Lmao

scenic thorn
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🤝

thorny carbon
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Lol everyone acting like 13yo. Tho i do agree that this situation needs to be cleared up. Spamming won't help.

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Sure, I get you're point, however reacting like this won't do any good. @tame bone stop spam Adam or you will be forced into to playing yoh 'til next year.

dire ingot
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Hello bb

limber lintel
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is that a LOCA reference?

fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess Jionetty#2781 was muted

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dynoSuccess arshia#2397 was banned

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dynoSuccess _RickDeckard#6709 was muted

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dynoSuccess _RickDeckard#6709 was banned

chilly hemlock
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I’m banning people for breaking server rules here. Can’t do anything about in game

median mason
normal scroll
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sorry but it won't happen

chilly hemlock
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I am going to make this very clear, KYS will not be tolerated here. Period.

fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess LekVtankiste_OwO#1180 was banned

chilly hemlock
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You know I don’t care right?

fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess CiappoThePenguin#6918 was banned

thorn shale
chilly hemlock
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Clearly this is just a case of “wg miscommunication and language barrier”

noble star
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We are trying to work with them on a solution.

thorny carbon
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Raik is just doing his job tbf

noble star
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But people causing issues here doesn’t help

chilly hemlock
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But in all seriousness, we understand what it means. You understand what it means. Just because Sirius doesn’t understand doesn’t mean it’s okay

cyan timber
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But noo he should ban eg!! 🧠

calm atlas
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Intensive discussion i like it

chilly hemlock
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So. All prior comments will be deleted, anything further will be mutes or bans

formal drift
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@chilly hemlock does sirius read DMs?

chilly hemlock
dreamy bolt
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Yes he does ive sent pleanty, just dont be dumb

chilly hemlock
sinful crest
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I support iRaik👍

vale bluff
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what a reason of ban Ciappo and Pewpew? @chilly hemlock

finite loom
chilly hemlock
chilly hemlock
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To be completely honest, why is there even global chat in tournaments to begin with?

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Best thing you could say is gg, worst thing is… well, this

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Gg isn’t really necessary

thorn shale
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@cyan timber hi, platoon?

normal scroll
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gg is just being cool with the other team imo

chilly hemlock
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I know why it exists but my point is that this has always been possible before and has happened in lesser ways

chilly hemlock
thorn shale
chilly hemlock
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But there’s no way to keep the good and ditch the bad

chilly hemlock
onyx merlin
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The point is, if rekem get banned, so what about eg. I mean if rekem get banned, eg should be too

cyan timber
grim shadow
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What did Rekem say tho

potent magnet
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Everytime I open this chat there's something spicy going on

wide coral
thorny carbon
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rekem isn't banned right? just lost trophies that lead to lose top8, clearly if that happened to EG it wouldn't affect the fact they're top8

inland condor
thorn shale
thorn salmon
normal scroll
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they were something like 13-15

onyx merlin
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I mean, if rekem lost the cups, eg did same thing. So they should lose the cups that they earned in pys4
Rekem now is 29th

atomic drum
thorn shale
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Who can’t wait to see their world of tanks blitz heroes in the Blitz cup????

thorny carbon
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@potent magnet That's exactly how i feel lmao. Oh that means they lose cups from all 3days of PYS. Okay I didn't get that. @thorn shale i meant top16 mb

vale bluff
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i wish eg go play top32, would be funny to watch it XD

wide coral
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I mean, why cant we even have the footage? Even in dms...

glass thunder
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If it was one player why ban all team

scenic thorn
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it's a team game

jaunty nexus
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They will never punish EG cause they’re in the Top 3… they won’t let a team lose out on an actual professional tournament. Rip to REK3M though as it isn’t fair

normal scroll
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i bet 10 bucks that EG won't be punished, quote me

candid lance
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Lol rip

analog osprey
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@barren gate

onyx merlin
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I’m very wondering about what will wg do.
Who wants to see rekem and eg fighting in top32 tournament?

atomic tartan
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did another team get yeeted for BMs lol

chilly hemlock
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Really hope so

feral oar
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Why WG can’t just punish player who did that?

modest whale
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Can't wait for the 1 day of premium compensation to everyone affected!!!

atomic drum
chilly hemlock
cyan timber
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Niko will do public apology now dont worry guys

thorn shale
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I hope WG does something about what EG did, unless ppl will say things like that in tournaments and in random battles. That will be so annoying if it becomes something normal

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Lmaoooo rek3m stepped in their own mine ahahaha

chilly hemlock
untold tinsel
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we don’t even know what they said unless it was posted and i missed it

ok

wide coral
# scenic thorn it's a team game

In random games, ppl who trashtalk get punished individually, not the whole team. Even tho we're a team, it's an online game so we live far away from each other, so it's not as if we could stop someone from trashtalking.
We're all getting punished because of one person, so tell us what we could have done to prevent it

sinful crest
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@chilly hemlock send it to me too plz

muted ore
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@thorn shale We do not write off cups from teams for such language, only for obvious insults.
If you want, you can file a complaint to the Player Support Center, where they will consider punishing the player for such language under the Rules of the Game.

latent olive
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@atomic drum I wasn’t streaming you guys in PYS4 last night nor did I stream SPRTA - I only streamed BPS

pastel tartan
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i dont think anyone saw that game

chilly hemlock
spiral swallow
feral oar
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I mean it’s a bit unfair to Team mates… Playing for two weeks and then getting penalised coz their team mate insults other clans or players. Unfortunately they couldn’t stop him.

barren gate
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I actually dont remember that happened. Shokk is always muted in vc and for the guys who know him, he has always been rude toward his mates and even EG (u can watch his comment on 3verystream yesterday where he insults EG. We did not even noticed he did that coz we though he insulted us. Also pls dont compare REK3M behaviour who always troll in tournament, insults Amaunet and her community… with EG, who had never insulted any ennemies teams in tournament since this clan has been created.

vale bluff
muted ore
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@chilly hemlock If you find such a thing - complain to the Player Support Center and the offender will be punished.

onyx merlin
chilly hemlock
cyan timber
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But shok already got punished for it with a chatban

inland condor
sinful crest
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@muted ore I think by having your community complain to a bot response support center doesn’t help, question out of curiosity if I tell an Enemy team to kill themselves in top8 will anything happen to me?

thorn shale
muted ore
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@chilly hemlock For complaining from the other team and insulting opponents with profanity.

normal scroll
median mason
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Again the same story 🥱

thorn shale
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Guys why don’t you apologise to the clan you insulted instead of attacking others. I’m sure you could be accepted back if you did so

muted ore
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@inland condor Punished the team that insulted.

spiral swallow
chilly hemlock
muted ore
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@sinful crest If something like this happens in the top 8, we'll look at it again separately.

vale bluff
formal drift
candid lance
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Lol rip

scenic thorn
muted ore
# spiral swallow you do realize no one cares about shokk getting a chatban from player support? ...
barren gate
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yes but why REK3M have been ban exactly ?

latent olive
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Whilst I am not condoning the msg stated in the EG game, I would point out that the difference in the 2 situations, as far as I can tell, is that WG received complaints regarding whatever the REK3M player wrote. That makes quite a difference because it is how the msg is received by those it is directed at, in this case clearly someone or more than one felt insulted by whatever was said and reported it. It seems that no one was insulted by what was said by EG, thus no reports and therefore no action from WG.

I am 100% certain that those who played that particular game would have replays that would show the offending msg and I would suggest that be the 1st port of call. I would advise REK3M to see what happened first, see if there is anyway they can remedy that act and see if they can then appeal, rather than attempt to change the current decision.

abstract sigil
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@muted ore check dm thanks

thorn shale
muted ore
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@chilly hemlock It's not profanity. Write to the Support Center and complain.
I have nothing more to add on this subject. The matter is closed.

cyan timber
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can someone dm me with what rek3m said

vale matrix
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im so confused on what happened to rek3m lmao

chilly hemlock
normal scroll
noble star
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Firstly I think this is incredible stupid on WG’s behalf. It opens WG to direct criminal liability if anyone did self harm themselves from a message in this game. I’ll be honest, the way this has been handled is simply making it easy for me to separate myself from any moderating duties here or the NA Forum. I would suggest that anyone who feels aggrieved by WG’s actions to make a complaint. Here in the USA a company is liable for what is allowed on their pages (not liable for things posted but not allowed), as such since WG is allowing KYS and other slangs for self harm and other vile actions - I suspect a train wreck headed this way.

inland condor
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wg disappointing as always

fiery scarab
spiral swallow
grave raven
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@muted ore dude sorry but you need to be fired from your job if you think something as serious as killing yourself is nothing

vale bluff
glass thunder
wide coral
cyan timber
normal scroll
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It's incredible how stupid this situation is

thorn shale
latent olive
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@fiery scarab my understanding is that it was from a game last night, in PYS4, so they should still be there

All, try to calm down somewhat here and resist the temptation to bully/abuse and have a go at Sirius, he is merely doing his job nothing more. I totally agree that we cannot have a situation with rules for one and rules for another, but Sirius is not the ultimate decision maker and thus it is not his call. He has relayed a msg nothing more.

I have already advised that the first port of call is for the clan to identify for themselves the offending txt and take it from there. I am more than happy to assist REK3M where necessary

iron peak
inland condor
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Rule nr 1 of the autumn season literally says that if one insults another player in tour, the team will lose all points. wg are just not following their own rules lmao. either punish both or none

gilded sentinel
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Regardless how it’s started in my opinion both team should be considered as a violation to the rules

lapis epoch
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Hello Assasin 🙏🏼 Starooooo

thorn shale
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Hello Legundo

fiery scarab
sinful crest
potent magnet
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Hello ed
Hello ferocity
Hello assassin

tame bone
vale matrix
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it is so sad what happened I can't even believe it

limber lintel
# pastel tartan i dont think anyone saw that game

correct, and I don't know any1 of our team that reported, it's either someone acting on their own in SPRTA, not talking to the team, or another team saw toxic behaviour from REK3M that day, in this message I'm not confirming/denying REK3M made any toxic comments,

I don't want any trouble really, but I would like not to immediately be assumed as part of the team that reported cus we don't want any beef and I'm also not supporting toxicity, just wish to not get involved

vale bluff
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WG logic be like: rules created, for violate them 😏

tardy bay
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I hate toxic players.

glass thunder
chilly hemlock
spiral swallow
normal scroll
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Classic WG you know

thorn shale
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@muted ore ok, you can't punish for using a "slang language", like " Kys". But what about the second part? "With your trash clan". Isn't that offensive and insulting? Or are you just gonna use the "rules not for everyone strategy" and do nothing about EG-?

cyan timber
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I support sirius, my hero 👍

thorn shale
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wow its 2 seasons i a row wg screws with...

spare yarrow
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2 dramas in a row in eu server lol

chilly hemlock
median mason
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I think it's like 3rd of 4th drama caused by you know who 😆

chilly hemlock
untold tinsel
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@tardy bay i also dislike toxic players.

potent magnet
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Yeah last season was fun on NA

rare trellis
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Hello Legundo [PURPL] Ex-Deputy

thorn shale
thorn shale
vale matrix
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🐒

wide coral
# latent olive <@!754972942563278871> my understanding is that it was from a game last night, i...

As for the offending text, we've been asking for it for quite a while now but no answer from WG. We think that the game was streamed on your channel (PYS #4 day 1) but we dont know why or how, the stream seems blocked at the moment when a yoh is in a 1v1 against a vk on your game against gx on oasis palms

We would be grateful for someone to send us our violation so we can react suitably to it

vale bluff
gilded sentinel
# chilly hemlock Maybe they just flip a coin for fun

Ya man idk honestly, like if something like this happens in any professional competition whoever have the decision make would consider both parties as a violation to the rules not sure what is the case with WG, but ya you need to look at it from a fair point

thorn salmon
limber lintel
thorn shale
thorn shale
cyan timber
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@shadow topaz u better be taking notes

glass thunder
rough tusk
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Lol rip

potent magnet
latent olive
# wide coral As for the offending text, we've been asking for it for quite a while now but no...

That stream was me actually playing in VE1L, so it will only be VE1L games against GX and REK3M. I have just checked the stream and it is available and public listed

@thorn shale I never said anything of the sort and I take exception to you trying to accuse me or deflect of or deflect something I havent done or even said. In fact I made it clear that I do not condone in anyway what was said in the EG game so your attempt to create drama with me here is out of order

wide coral
rough tusk
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@wide coral WG are already in deep waters with the wows saga. Just write an email to kotaku and other publications describing your hardship and they'll be more than happy to screw WG again

Other than that, WG have already said the matter is closed so nothing you can do

@spiral swallow they got too greedy and it led to a huge scandal with 2 senior management WG employees leaving/getting fired. They lost a lot of money

crisp shore
devout lily
atomic drum
chilly hemlock
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@proper kraken bro we got some content for you

proud holly
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Wait I don’t think he covers EU

onyx merlin
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The crisis of cc?

latent olive
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@wide coral I will check but I still have all the replays in any event

modest whale
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Austin missing out if he ain't putting this in his autumn season meme video

devout lily
vale matrix
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this was some good entertainment thanks rek3m and eg

atomic drum
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If anyone needs the deleted conversations for a video or so, dm me!

tawdry inlet
wide coral
formal drift
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Hey @muted ore,
On behalf of the REK3M members that fought during autumn season, we would like to apologize for the actions of the member that committed the infraction during PYS #4.
We understand that the rules about provocation and communication were enforced before this season.
First we wish to apologize for the team that was victim of the provocation, belittling and unsporting speeches. We are ashamed of what has happened, and the poor example that was set.
We would like to specify that we are humans, and that a lot of us had anger and emotional issues. Despite the stress of clanwars and the amount of hours played in a short period of time, most of us, and of other clans too, could hold back their words, but the player responsible for the accident unfortunately could not resist to the end. We are in no matter trying justify his actions, but we wanted to explain the how and why.
We are terribly ashamed to have set a bad image and example of Blitz clanwars, and understand the penalty.
However, we would nonetheless request a fairer judgement. Certain players, such as one in EG-, sent just as, if not more offensive remarks directed to us. However, the rest of his team was not penalized unlike us, even more is the fact that himself was not penalized as a whole despite the positive answers in player report.
We hope that either an equal punishment would be taken against EG- or that like older seasons, that one player is not drowning the rest of the 9 innocent players with him.

onyx merlin
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The important thing, what did rekem say?

chilly hemlock
spiral swallow
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in the meanwhile, matush plays wotb

proud holly
twilit venture
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I would like to say, make love not war.

normal scroll
frigid aurora
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as one of my teammates said in any other games like riot’s for example “kys” leads to a permaban, thats the same as any other offensive abbreviations, and like ok if u do that in randoms u can get along with a 3 days chat ban, but how stupid can u be to throw such at a streamed competitive match xd, the only thing that overcomes this is wg’s reaction, it’s interesting if i told a wg employee smth like “kys” or called their company “trash” would it be considered slang and would i not be banned from here? does that mean we can also go say that to enemy teams? nice double stabdards fine cool to know

cobalt yarrow
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Who is artishok, he came for sirius place?

rough tusk
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@atomic drum pls check my dm

grim shadow
devout lily
spiral swallow
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nice job on ghost factory
no jk rly.

normal scroll
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Hellas is awful. Encounter, supremacy, tournaments, it simply doesn't work in any mode.

proper kraken
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why are y’all arguing like wg cares about what you have to say 😂

vale matrix
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^ facts

fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess tma#8877 was muted

atomic drum
thorn shale
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They changed the PYS schedule after a lot of conversation here about it

fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess IamGerald_25#8013 has been warned.

iron peak
vale bluff
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XDDD more mutes and bans for players saying their opinion
hold on wg😌

chilly hemlock
proud holly
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Wait does anyone have a screenshot of what REK3M said ingame.
I already have the one where Shoko says “kys trash clan”

thorn shale
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It hurts me to the core people can say such horrific things. I would surely cry if I was told to “kms”.

spiral swallow
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u can still cry if u want

untold tinsel
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if you persecute one team for bm with no proof and u don’t persecute a team that has proof of bm then what’s the point of even having an argument

proper kraken
normal scroll
fresh lance
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Some clans are mature enough to joke with each other in a friendly manner and it's funny, unfortunately some others cause this 2 day arguments xd

potent magnet
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Hello guys

pure lava
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Cant wait for Ernest video about autumn season 😋

thorn shale
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who are u @pure lava

wet tide
thorn shale
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Wargaming, can we please have justice for these toxic comments, just think about the hurt they have caused to maybe even children. Also thank you moderators for keeping this chat civil. @potent magnet hey!

lapis epoch
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who u@pure lava

cobalt yarrow
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When WG will close this chat , usually when WG are wrong they prefer the close chat

pure lava
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I dont know...@lapis epoch a random bot i am

proper kraken
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this shouldn’t even be a discussion the answer to the problem is easier than shooting fish in a barrel with no water but wg being wg do not care about what you have to say just keep buying crates big fella 👍🏽

rose haven
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i feel like if someone who wasnt a popular person in blitz would get banned for saying this ^

thorn shale
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🤨

chilly hemlock
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No

mellow belfry
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Dont complain here, go make ticket and then wg will maybe do something. Crying here is useless

Edit: lmao mods stop deleting so many messages calm down a bit

proper kraken
slender goblet
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Ya'll acting "woke", get a grip.

chilly hemlock
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Muted for posting a gif.

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Check the pinned messages

fresh lance
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@proud holly there's already a guy that has kys in his ign xd

chilly hemlock
royal cradle
rare trellis
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thank you to the moderation team for keeping this rowdy crowd under control 😇

sweet flint
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Aus’s autumn season compilation gonna be fire 🔥

steel shell
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Honestly if "kys" will go through as "slang" without any sort of punishment idk what to say

sweet flint
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All this going down and no one gonna mention that Alexandra has been playing blitz for almost 23 hours?

inland condor
fresh lance
elder coral
proper kraken
sweet flint
slim blade
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lmao

outer isle
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@proper kraken when season video

elder coral
# proper kraken says who 😳

Remember when you set a like target for summer season long version and then everyone liked the video because it’s what we wanted to see? 🙃

gusty topaz
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@lean cedar

shrewd quarry
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@twin sphinx hi who is the (Sirius) individual that is responsible for tournament decisions, as there a many on the this server. Thank you

hollow sigil
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probably the one with Wargaming role ?????

elder coral
gusty topaz
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@muted ore
Hello

I am representative of clan A1LES

Please we need your help regarding lower echelon tournaments

We placed 33rd place for the season and clan DRGNS placed 32nd

They deleted their clan and on WoT official website they show as "dismissed"

We were hoping that we would be promoted to the 32nd place

We sent a ticket to WG but they replied to us to check the forums, and we couldn't find anything

pastel tartan
gusty topaz
pastel tartan
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they cant, since the clan doesnt exist, so no tickets were sent

chilly hemlock
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Someone is getting a free bye lol

elder coral
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Yeah it’ll be whoever got 17th so I’m sure they’re pleased with these developments and probably not at all disappointed at not making top 16

gusty topaz
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Wouldn't it be better to distribute the tickets intended to DRGNS to the runner up to maintain the status quo?
@pastel tartan

slim blade
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CASH- free win

pastel tartan
shrewd quarry
gusty topaz
thorn shale
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Did rekem lose any points for saying smth I m lost

atomic drum
thorn shale
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Do so please I just found out smth is going on

fluid pilot
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So like rek3m was toxic in a tournament and got nuked for it and then eg- is also super toxic and they get no punishment pretty fune wargaming move

stark crow
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Nothing surprising

latent olive
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3very is 100% correct

modest whale
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Another Monday another mess

fresh lance
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Another season* another mess. Before it was seeding, then rigging now this

neon thistle
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i love this community

pure lava
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same

primal talon
peak terrace
glass thunder
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from what happened today we learn don't say bad words(****) only if u can back it up( been good so u wont get punished )

fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess スパイロ#8259 was muted

neon thistle
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Hai raik

chilly hemlock
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Hi haxx. Been a few years

sweet flint
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Can we all start a poll to convince aus to make an autumn season video?👀

steel shell
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Pathetic problem solving from wg's side

thick elk
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first the rigging thing last season now this. Wg has got to be the most inconsistent company for punishments lol

chilly hemlock
steel shell
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The best joke is when someone from tourney department tells you to contact the support🤣

cobalt yarrow
chilly hemlock
fallen leaf
fresh lance
warped patrol
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👀

thorn salmon
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@warped patrol im still waiting for summer season video 🥺

vale helm
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Keep waiting

sly axle
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This is getting to the point where I am surprised when there is not an issue going on regarding tournaments.

mellow belfry
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uwu

pure lava
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QwQ

solar quarry
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🤬

vale bluff
quaint gorge
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More like rated R my dude

rare trellis
# quaint gorge More like rated R my dude

he’s talking about how wg has to keep it pg 13. most comp voice chats are R rated and above. some stuff said in vc can’t even have a rating cuz it’s too brutal

gilded marsh
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Man I wish Tomie had recorded the APX voice chat so people watching his streams could hear the types of comms we had. @narrow meteor what are your thoughts on this feller?

untold tinsel
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this doesn’t even seem like a tournament issue it seems like a player base issue.

rare trellis
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i agree with RGK_ [-MM]™️sub2rgk

narrow meteor
pale finch
quiet owl
untold tinsel
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let me get this straight, telling someone to kill themselves isn’t profane? Since when.

rare trellis
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maybe wg sees it as helpful advice 🤷‍♂️

empty phoenix
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What even happened

chilly hemlock
quiet owl
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@chilly hemlock every time I want to give WG the benefit of the doubt, they continue to disappoint. At least they’re consistent with that.

quasi steeple
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how do i get out of one of these 2v2 tournaments. dude invited me & bailed after i accepted & now i can't do anything else.. help

thick elk
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captain has to dismiss team

elder coral
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thats a phat rip. nothing you can do

proud holly
proud holly
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eg and rek3m if i recall

flat goblet
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What did rekem say though. None of this looks good.

I’ve seen that one multiple times.

proud holly
fluid pilot
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Wdym that's not toxic he's just giving rek3m words of motivation

muted ore
normal scroll
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Well, why do I feel that sending tickets to the support won't change anything. 🤷🏻‍♂️

fiery scarab
rough tusk
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@muted ore just confirming
We can name our team as kys bait trash clan and that will not be a violation and our team name won't be renamed right?

@winter swallow don't you think if EG are allowed to say the k word, we should be allowed to say it too and use it in our team names?

glass thunder
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@muted ore can i use the K** word in challengers if we beat someone or will my team get punished (i want punish my team) ?

winter swallow
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...

I think teams should be allowed to smack talk each other no holds barred. It is entertaining muchly.

That being said I prefer mutual sportsmanship.

However, ultimately, WG through EULA and tournament regulations, have a carte blanche to intervene as they determine necessary.

It's their party and anything and everything that happens is entirely at their discretion and they've waived liability and we agreed to it.

Y'all need to read the TORs, EULA, tournament regulations and other such shenanigans.

The only barrel the playerbase can hold them over is bad PR. That's it.

rough tusk
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It's only a slang after all. No biggie right?

rugged grove
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true, technically our accounts and all related assets belong solely and completely to them

primal talon
glass thunder
loud ginkgo
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Just play the game, don't talk. If someone insult you or text crazy stuff send replay and it will be solved. Worked for me every time

pale finch
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è_é

analog osprey
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@rough tusk more more

mellow belfry
olive pasture
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Why wg loves EG?

thorn salmon
winter swallow
# glass thunder main problem is why apply rule to clan and not to others if wg check lot of team...

I agree rules should apply equally to everyone.

Two issues here.

  1. Can't compare REK3M / EG- penalties because we don't know what REK3M said.

  2. Penalising whole clan for one or a few peoples bad chat is unfair IMO. I'd prefer individual bans from tournament and rest of clan/team being allowed to continue.

... more than 2 points...

  1. WG also managing this over 4 servers and we know there's been similar punishments especially on CIS server - so it's even more complex for them to balance all outcomes.

  2. Reiterating all of this is at WG discretion. We can advise here but like they'll do whatever they determine to be correct in their eyes.

burnt glacier
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Nice try to take out opponents, my friend🤔

formal drift
onyx merlin
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so what exactly did rekem say????
by the way, challenger avatar is almost same look like lower echo avatar. bruh

I don't really understand how wg setting up prize pool. get 1rt in top 32 tour earn much more than get out in group stage of challenger. I mean 16th is stronger than 17th right?

I'm not unlike the new Avatar. just they are too similar(challenger and lower echo)

chilly cliff
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Do we have camo and tanks in top 32? I dont think so, also being in Hall of Fame for a season is gratifying for the guys who played

burnt glacier
long meteor
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I've Hope get back this old Avatars like a old camo for top8

glass thunder
chilly hemlock
# winter swallow I agree rules should apply equally to everyone. Two issues here. 1) Can't com...

I think that’s the most hilarious thing. The lack of consistency is incredible. We saw both eu and na rig games over the summer, nearly identical situations, and one gets punish while the other does not. Maybe we don’t have all the details as to why rekem got punished but how different could it really be? I just have a hard time thinking they could have done something substantially worse given what was said by eg, in part because I feel like it doesn’t get much worse than that

inland condor
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Some consistency wouldnt be too bad ngl

surreal hinge
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I'm glad we're back to the norm of having controversy every season!

latent olive
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Not all situations are black and white I am afraid. It is easy to say X got away with something whilst A got punished, but in most cases the facts are not the same and its those little differences that lead to certain decisions. Looking from the outside it is easy for us to jump to a conclusion and demonise a particular group or thing, but once you know the full picture it starts to make more sense.

Dont get me wrong, I am not a fan of taking action against an entire team for the acts of 1 and that should be something for WG to consider, but I am a fan of having rules to regulate both gameplay and eliminate any abuse. I feel gutted for REK3M, of course I do and no doubt do most of you, but its now too late to change I am afraid. Teams have been moved up and received tickets and to remove those now could create a bigger issue.

Are their lessons to be learnt, of course there are and not just on WG's part but also the players to an extent - refrain from sending any messages that can be seen as insulting/offensive - regardless if done as a joke or not. Just dont risk it and keep it in VC

winter swallow
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Fugit explained to me in some detail via DMs. He's right in this case. The outcome isn't brilliant but it isn't a total poopshow either all aspects considered.

Same advice as always. Follow zi rules and you'll be fine.

latent olive
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The only thing I will say is a lot has been made about some player in REK3M saying something. I know for a fact that particular player is truly mortified and going through a bad patch right now so please be mindful that there are real people behind the drama and no doubt REK3M as a team and that player in particular are feeling totally disappointed right now. Lets not drag this on any further, for their sakes. I am pretty sure we all feel REK3M have been dealt a bad hand and we all support them at this time, but dragging the matter on and on wont get them past this

formal drift
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We in REK3M has accepted that the situation cannot be turned around unfortunately. We sure do wish justice for EG-'s rudeness against us but it seems like it's not going anywhere as well. Tough, tough phase

steel shell
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This is not the first time where we see different results of the same problem and thats pretty sad

silk thistle
#

@muted ore
Oh so telling ppl to kill themselves isn't considered profanity so it's allowed? I see.

So in my opinion, just because it's not considered a "swear word," it doesn't mean such words/phrases are okay. By saying it is okay, you just offended:

  1. People who have had a case of depression and/or suicide ideation
  2. People who are still recovering from such past that can easily be triggered with such phrases
  3. People who have a friend or family member who killed themselves.
    And I am sure that many people here can relate to any of those 3 categories. Speaking from a personal experience, I belong to one of them, and I find phrases like "kys" incredibly insensitive and offensive. So, I think those phrases should call for penalties.

I have stated my beliefs and reasoning above. Alternatively, I would like to know why you think telling people to kill themselves is not bannable instantly. Given that what the other team said was not disclosed, I don't want to hear that it was because "kys" wasn't as offensive as what the other team said. It's stupid to think that only one should be punished when two unacceptable words were said. So I think many people who were offended by your action and words, including myself, deserve an explanation on your part as to what your thought process is.
Thank you for reading this. I know it's a long message, but it was difficult for me to voice this as well, so I look forward to a sincere reply to my questions.

thorn shale
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Just turn your chat off

muted ore
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@silk thistle
We don't think it's normal. Of course not.
We think that such things should be governed by the rules of the game, not the tournament.

I will add that the Tournament Rules may be changed in future seasons. If that happens we will additionally tell the players about it.

analog osprey
chilly cliff
# thorn shale Just turn your chat off

Il lead the team especialy on the behaviour aspect, as 9 of 10 are french speakers. Do you really think that i agree with that kind of behaviour against opponents, we all worked to come where we finished PYS. The real problem is that i always did my best for my members to keep the control and never be wrong with opponents. Sometimes it happened and have been regulated, and the most simple solution to start is to turn off the chat. I can say everything, if any member just blowup and want to say or do something at a time i cant do anything or mabe just apologize for the opponents. So why are we all punished?

silk thistle
analog osprey
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@muted ore I think wg should close the chat (between enemies) during tournament games. I think it’s the better option for the future.

modest whale
glass thunder
atomic drum
# muted ore <@!360225226698522635> We don't think it's normal. Of course not. We think tha...

Then why did this apply to REK3M, but not EG-, who have committed a far more serious chat violation?!

This is an obvious instance of your double standards! This is a betrayal of your own tournament rules, and will damage the integrity of professional tournament events!

The way you discriminated REK3M, compared to EG- is frightening for each and every member of a professional tournament team in World of Tanks Blitz. They now know, that they too could get unjustfully disqualified, after having attended trainings and tournaments each evening for weeks, cancelling plans with their friends and family. All this, just to then be disqualified for something a person, who perhaps joined the team 2 days ago, said.

It is simply not worth participating in the events organized by a shady company that is governed by inequitable judgements, and who tries to trick their community whenever it‘s the easier way out. Even your own mods disagree with you!!!

royal cradle
#

Case solved by sticking to inconsistent behavior and double standards 🤗🤫

atomic drum
#

Even worse than that, one of our players will be punished for something he isn’t guilty of for the second time in a row! He will miss out on the rewards for two seasons now, despite having followed all rules and conducting himself with impeccable sportsmanship...

jade cobalt
inland condor
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Imo neither EG- or REK3M as a whole team should be punished. The players that insult - ok (for example no rewards or so). But there is no point in taking the points away for the whole team, which most likely have 9 other players that didn‘t have anything to do with it

chilly cliff
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Especialy when noone in the team have the control of what a member or another say or do in game

fiery scarab
#

I do think the biggest problem is the double standard of WG to handle these 2 teams… I can’t believe it

Maybe next time write in rewards: top 3 clans are allowed to use any words in game lol

atomic drum
rough tusk
#

@atomic drum Rename your clan to EG-- to protect yourself from wg sanctions

jade cobalt
#

Tbh there is biggest problem in this game like why there is asians tournament. WG gives monney to a server where even my brother of 8 yo could be champion with such a bad level

maiden anvil
#

i think one of the reasons they aren't penalizing kys is because it's an acronym that could literally mean anything, despite its common use as an insult. that being said, the "trash clan" part is pretty blatant alongside that and it would've been totally justifiable for wg to use deductive reasoning in this case

atomic drum
rare trellis
#

wg big brain moment

fluid pilot
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Such intellect

formal drift
#

Due to the challengers tours getting too close for the situation to be unlocked, I feel like it becomes rightful that I reveal what has been said.
In the game that was reported and subsequently banned us, one of our members couldn't control his nerves and swore, saying "dog sh *t" at the last second of the game.
Essentially, our opponents that we know well reported us as a joke for the laughs and we were banned for this following reason.
Although it is not acceptable words to use in a tournament, it has not been directed to anyone, has not offended anyone, and are far from as serious as what EG told us. And EG were directing their words to use and not swearing in the blank.
It seems a level more unfair to ban an entire team for something that is a swear rather than an insult and leave another team be after degrees more violent insults directed to someone.

mellow belfry
#

reported.

formal drift
steel shell
fluid pilot
#

I mean to be fair i don't know why anyone is surprised, this is the same company that banned the two EU teams celebrating their top 8 while doing nothing about blatant rigging in NA and Asia i believe? It's just sad to see this level of incompetence

surreal hinge
strong marsh
#

dogsh*t can be found in the cambridge dictionary it's not slang unlike kys 🤡

hybrid sonnet
#

October 4?
Damn that's my birthday!
Gotta watch the tournament then. It would be my best birthday gift.

atomic drum
rare trellis
#

exactly

strong marsh
#

Imagine punishing a team for highlighting the existence of fecal excrement left by a dog.

atomic drum
#

Usually, when people say the s-word or the f-word aloud, it‘s only an angered reaction to the situation they are in themselves, and not directed at anyone else to insult!

This is nothing compared to telling a person to go kill themselves. That’s literally encouraging suicide, and the person + company will be held accountable if anything happens, as a result of them allowing such behavior!!!

mellow belfry
#

Mmm tournaments 😋

fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess zird#7777 was muted

mellow belfry
#

Why zird got punished for saying the same as EG, when EG didn’t get punished XD?

frigid aurora
#

wg: kys is an abbreviation, we punish players in accordance with regulations, only for obscene language
also wg:

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in accordance with regulations
also regulations:

thorn shale
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Bad usage of slang

steel shell
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Id say peter used the slang in a wrong way but still...it wasnt meant towards wg but to one of the players therefore i dont see a reason why he should get punished

weary vapor
steel shell
weary vapor
pure lava
#

highly doubt that

steel shell
weary vapor
vale bluff
#

EU server players: discussing about rekem got punished for ‘dog sh it’ and eg didnt got punished for ‘kys’
ASIA server:

chilly cliff
#

Looked good when we saw the efforts for this season to remove seeding and giving a more equal chance for all teams to earn cups, but when same problem in differents teams are differently solved especialy in favor of the best team of them, i think thats not "better than ever"

steel shell
vale bluff
strong marsh
#

why would a garden tool with a long handle and a short blade used to remove weeds and break up the surface of the ground be considered inappropriate?

fresh lance
#

I just hope the maintenance servers will get tomorrow fix the connection issues so we can all play our season without worrying about lag 😎

chilly hemlock
chilly hemlock
steel shell
chilly hemlock
#

It’s not clever. It’s not funny. It’s pathetic

vale bluff
narrow meteor
#

We gotta do better guys

chilly hemlock
surreal hinge
#

These guys must be terrible comedians, they aren't making anyone laugh!

steel shell
#

Team HOE like team of women who do you know what..hahan't?😂

untold tinsel
#

who actually cares tho

winter swallow
#

I mean - a hoe is also a common gardening utensil/horticultural tool and this is the original usage of the word... to use it to describe someone's active intimate nature's is slang...

vale bluff
#

Asiain top32 be like XDDD

thorn shale
#

Why it should be renamed lol. Its literally the same as with the word shoko wrote. You never know if they mean Hoe as woman or they just like hoe as garden thingy😀

chilly hemlock
slim blade
#

im just referring to my mate Dikk what’s all the fuss about
hes a great guy
he is tall yes

weary vapor
#

Is he big too? @slim blade

quiet owl
# muted ore There is no need to pass off your speculation as someone else's. The User Suppo...

There’s no speculation. I’m pointing out the fact that when you’re addressing an issue like this via a medium such as Discord and then state to “write to the support center and complain”, it comes off as dismissive. When you couple that with the inconsistency that is exhibited with the way rules are applied in general, it’s just not a good look.
I’ve been accused on the forums of being a WG apologist as I try to understand the issue from all perspectives and I know that often there is context missing in these conversations which both @latent olive and @winter swallow alluded to. I also think that as a whole, the Blitz team does a much better job than the other WG teams regarding communication and interaction with the player base. That said, everyone knows that WG is loathe to address behavioral issues (language, trolls, AFK, etc) and that the customer support team is a tiger with no teeth. Whether this specific instance reflects the problem or not, the reality is that many aren’t going to give WG the benefit of the doubt until the broader problem is addressed.

wet tide
#

Its a great guy, can confirm
Havent seen someone with a bigger aura of stonks than him

modest whale
#

Heart of emerald

hollow sigil
#

Hop on E75

winter swallow
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But a hoe is actually a garden tool. You go OED for hoe and it is a garden tool. You need to go urban dictionary to find the alternative usage.

slim blade
#

urban dictionary is 100% accurate

thorn shale
#

We wont see habibis in top 8

mellow belfry
steep prawn
#

This chat 💀

spiral swallow
# muted ore There is no need to pass off your speculation as someone else's. The User Suppo...

thats the only thing you can keep replying over and over, and dodging all ogher questions, gg.
How is that 1 team insults and gets instantly punished by removing cups, another does same, and instead of getting same treatment there is YOU here keeping spamming to open ticket to support to get them an useless chat ban, which has nothing to do with Tournament punishments? Also, this discord server's point is for wg employeers get more in touch with the playerbase, You replying to everyone with a bot-like response "go write ticket" are doing nothing of it.

spiral swallow
turbid relic
#

To every person who said the trashy EU reward stream was "just a test" and said that rewards "will get better", enjoy ur 12 boosters, 2 x3 XP certs, and one day of prem time.

Utter trash rewards looool

chilly hemlock
#

@spiral swallow absolutely not

thorn shale
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Yea

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Not sure about the logic on that @spiral swallow

normal scroll
rough tusk
thorn shale
spiral swallow
# thorn shale Not sure about the logic on that <@!560523950506115116>

because if more teams start using those harmless "we dont punish slangs" words as team names or in chat, maybe people at wg like sirius can start to realize how pathetic and ridiculous their decision towards EG message's obscenity in chat really is.
its just non-sense it doesnt get punished because its a slang and it can mean anything, when we all know what he meant.

chilly hemlock
#

Two wrongs do not make a right

turbid relic
# rough tusk it is professionals tournament not blitz cup. last time, you got the tier 8 prem...

This is a gaming company that gives away tier 9s for playing with tier 4 tanks. I would expect no less than free tier X vehicles for sitting there watching 4 hours of streams

🤡 🤡 🤡

Either way I have no high hopes for them giving away anything as good as last season anyway, and apparently my 4k res gaming PC cannot handle this mobile game anymore and I get 300 ping playing on 2 ping 100mbs upload and download internet literally in the same city the server is in. So WG deserves to get clowned on anyway lol

@rough tusk ur a clown for thinking I was being serious about the tier Xs lmao. "Look at my moral highground, I got this guy dead to rights right here"

supple hearth
#

😀

rough tusk
royal cradle
weary vapor
#

2 negatives make a positive

chilly hemlock
gilded marsh
#

since the rewards for watching the stream do not meet general expectations, i do not think many people will be watching the stream, myself included.

supple hearth
#

Kinda sad that people watch streams just because of rewards

grim shadow
#

Were there even any rewards like this last year?

merry blade
#

how else are people gunna get ready for the 60tp!

winter swallow
gilded marsh
frigid aurora
upper oar
#

i have no idea what Synx’s thing is with the prizing. man’s got 56k pub battles so he’s gotta have all the tech tree tanks and ik he has all the premium t10’s. probably sitting on an unlimited throne of premium account. 60TP line will drop and he probably won’t get a dent in credit and free xp reserves. what does he actually need for free at this point?

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i get “advocating” for better prizes to go for other people, but i just don’t see where its personal for him

thorn shale
#

The conversation about the chat violations by EG lost objectivity as soon as it began

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And comparisons of Discord rules to in-game rules are ultimately pointless as you’re comparing two wholly different things

chilly hemlock
#

Generally speaking, discord rules are based on in game rules but are more expansive and strict due to the group chat, pictures, gif etc capabilities

thorn shale
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Yes but unlike in-game, there is near constant real-time moderation on discord that nips rule breaking in the bud

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In-game you have to go through support tickets

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So Whoopz you’re literally comparing apples to oranges

chilly hemlock
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I don’t disagree

thorn shale
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And while I don’t condone what was said in the EG tournament game

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I’ve been silently amused by the whole situation as a large portion of the people complaining are not exactly saintly, non-toxic people themselves

frigid aurora
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discord server management > tournament esports regulations management i got it, lets see what happens of someone writes the same in grand finals what eg did

thorn shale
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I spy a heavy dose of faux outrage and hypocrisy in hopes that a rival team will get disqualified

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🧐

thorn shale
chilly hemlock
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I do get why people would also want a top team also eliminated for better chances of winning too

thorn shale
thorn shale
frigid aurora
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not punished = legal. tourneys arent dc servers right and mOrAl gRaNdStAnDiNg iS iRrEleVaNt

proud holly
#

Le tonky tonk

chilly hemlock
thorn shale
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"Depending on the violation of Game Rules, sanctions may be imposed on certain violators". Certain violator got 3 day ban, rule nr 1 respected 😊

surreal hinge
#

Anyways, can't wait for the 60TP to come right before twister

latent olive
#

erm 'trashy EU reward stream' I dont know how to take that in all honesty, as I was the streamer for that particular stream 🤷‍♂️

As for the rewards, getting something for merely having a link open seems pretty ok to me, what is it you want a shed load of gold? load of credits? maybe even a top tier tank? People moan when there are rewards because the viewers are only there to get the rewards and not interested in the actual tour and now people moan because the rewards arent to their expectations, whatever those might be. Constant moaning, thats all anyone does

fresh lance
merry blade
thorn shale
# latent olive erm 'trashy EU reward stream' I dont know how to take that in all honesty, as I ...

With all due respect, I think most of the complaining about the fact of how the previous rewards last year gave more rewards (even though I’m pretty sure this is just about the professional tournament streams and not blitzcup streams). But I agree with you that I think the community complains a lot. WG have gave out a lot of these small events which give easy to obtain rewards and sometimes a tank (ex. Kunze, 50tp prot., etc.) and people aren’t usually satisfied if the tank isn’t like the best for its tier. If people dislike the rewards they don’t have to play for them. Also can see this in your average public game or even sometimes about the competitive scene. I think it’s just as a community we expect so much from the devs it’s difficult for them to satisfy the community and make the game balanced and enjoyable.

latent olive
#

@thorn shale this Autumn season is BlitzCup, which is where the main rewards were housed last year and no doubt will be the same this year. This season some PYS streams got rewards, which doesnt normally happen, and yes the Pro tours, all streams, will also do rewards. If you compare the Pro tours then the rewards are not usually big, Avatar, boasters and premium time is the norm. BlitzCup is totally different, that was were the keys were not in the PYS or Pro tour.

slim blade
#

where keys

tulip finch
pure lava
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@tulip finch lmao hi

fluid pilot
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This game is fun.

fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess _Bounced#6934 was muted

rough tusk
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I checked the RU server and seems like WG has written off cups from top RU clans like 1L and GGAME too from one entire PYS for similar rule breaking

mellow belfry
slim blade
narrow meteor
chilly hemlock
slim blade
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I like to imagine the Russian pro tournament has Slavic hardbass playing in the background by default

modest whale
#

I cannot wait to see a highly skilled player like Sherman playing.

slim blade
fast hareBOT
#

dynoSuccess Shermyy#0972 was muted

outer isle
#

A taco

rare trellis
#

hello fellow tournament enjoyers 🤗

proud holly
#

perish

tardy bay
#

I like this server a lot, thank you moderators for all the hardwork you put in to make this server the best it can be.

lime loom
#

If Ernest makes another video, I just hope that this drama will be included

past marlin
#

@muted ore @frosty nexus hello,is it okay for a player to play profs from a different device ?

weary vapor
#

I love the tournaments channel, there is lots of engaging conversations about tournaments, thank you wargaming for the wonderful opportunities and friendships we have made here !

keen saffron
#

@muted ore hey man, could you accept my friend request? Need to talk about something

tulip finch
peak terrace
#

Complaining about stream rewards when majority aren't even watching the actual stream to began with.

"Omg WG, I want more stuff for having an extra tab open with your stream" 💀 🤣

solar quarry
proud holly
#

Why are you guys complaining about the steam rewards for what are essentially the preliminary matches

winter swallow
# slim blade where keys

KEYS? 👀 triggered

It's a good point though re: Blitz Cup being where the larger rewards for watching are. Makes sense for WG to funnel rewards upwards as stages progress to higher levels.

muted ore
worn juniper
#

Where is the ban list

worn juniper
#

@muted ore when will you Show the ban list

past marlin
muted ore
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@worn juniper Checks are still going on, it's hard to say when. We will try to check everything this week or next week.

worn juniper
#

👍

burnt glacier
spiral swallow
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the company nationality should matter less than 0 regarding actions taken about offensive language , this is just lack of knowledge/professionality by the people in charge of that @burnt glacier , if one doesnt know the obvious english slang meanings, shouldnt take care of this matter.

swift turtle
gentle sparrow
#

what will be the rewards?

kind obsidian
#

Yo guys, a quick question, i havent done tournaumemts in a long long time, but i feel like maybe doing some again.
Last time i played tournements was in 2018, doing the off-season quick tournaments. Is there something similar going on nowadays? Where its relatively chill and fun with clan buddies? Or is that the 3v3 now? And how regular/worthwile are those?

real cape
#

Plan

thorn salmon
mellow belfry
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What happens if someone in professional tournament doesnt play a single game? @muted ore @frosty nexus

muted ore
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@mellow belfry Nothing

outer isle
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(Emulator is allowed)

thorn salmon
winter swallow
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ahem 😶‍🌫️

thorn salmon
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Vabonium 👀

untold tinsel
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habibi is probably a racial slur to some one group of people 😂

proud holly
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Bababooey

haughty idol
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Filipino here

jolly kite
wet tide
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+1
I dont even know what other word come cpuld fit that kekw

covert flax
chilly hemlock
atomic drum
burnt glacier
muted ore
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@chilly hemlock Renamed

chilly hemlock
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Thank you

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I think the tournament scene is better when it is professional. That includes all aspects

untold tinsel
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I’m a professional player.

atomic drum
dusky sapphire
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Hello sirius, recently my device was having some issues which affected my gameplay,so I purchased a new one and am planning to play the prof from the new device only,is it gonna be fine or am supposed to still play from my old device?@muted ore

burnt glacier
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Uhm... Sorry for this analogy
If you rly think that WG doing professional tournament. That means that they are professional double standards company.
Can't normally answer why do they have completely different decisions on 2 same situations.
Just they can do this cause they can.
I guess I will get ban... But nvm

muted ore
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@dusky sapphire I see no problem with playing on a new device.

atomic drum
# muted ore <@!167278784565739521> Renamed

You literally just renamed A1N1- for using “k*s“ in their team name, but when EG- writes the same to us, specifically targeted at our “trash bait clan“, you refuse to do anything. Do you believe that this is a fair tournament where each team competes under the same rules?! If so, can we please get an explanation by the one responsible?!!
#JusticeForREK3M

glass thunder
fiery scarab
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Ridiculous k** word not allowed here not allowed in game but except for eg lol.
Good job wg 🙂

untold tinsel
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you won’t be penalized for saying k*s but you will be? so confused because i’m seeing such hypocrisy

muted ore
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@glass thunder Yes, it's stupid trolling that you are setting yourselves up.
We will not tolerate this kind of trolling in the best tournaments of the season.

dusky sapphire
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Okay thank you@muted ore

burnt glacier
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Ahahahahahah
So "K* S bolt trash team"
Is not (aggresive)trolling
But
"K* S habibi"
Is trolling
@glass thunder appreciate you for this social experiment

formal drift
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@muted ore hey, will there be further justifications about the inaction towards EG and the actions against REK3M? Just a justification about how the content said deserved or did not deserve penalties

atomic drum
muted ore
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@formal drift Hi. Decisions on these clans will not be reviewed.
If in the future we will punish for such expressions in qualifying tournaments, we will separately add this to the rules of qualifying and inform the players.

At the biggest tournaments of the season we will act tougher.

proud holly
#

What if it’s committed by a famous clan 🤨

wet tide
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Then we shall consider writing in the rules that they don’t count if you’re called EG-.

burnt glacier
#

Remember pls
Random TOP-16 guys blamed another team
WG: Ah, you will be punished
EG- blamed another team
WG: Ah, what a cute guys

UPD Post meta irony(trolling)

fiery scarab
formal drift
# muted ore <@!575299854692122624> Hi. Decisions on these clans will not be reviewed. If in ...

Hey,
I understood that the decisions won't be changed. I accepted it - I just wish to be more informed about why those decisions were taken.
By this I mean, EG sent constructed, objective and offending insults and were reported by around 8-9 people the night of the incident.
REK3M sent undirected, moderate swearing that did not offend but was reported as a joke by one singular person the night of the incident.
EG received no team penalty, only one chatban. REK3M lost top 16.
The lack of logic in the severity of either sides and weirdness of the situation leads me to ask for more details about the decision making

chilly hemlock
# muted ore <@!167278784565739521> Renamed

What exactly does renaming a team do to punish or discourage further similar behavior? Why not disband the team instead? Or even, disallow them from participating in that tournament?

modest whale
#

I love tournaments

fiery scarab
chilly hemlock
steel shell
chilly hemlock
royal cradle
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I dont think it'll change wargaming acting rationally instead of acting like consistent

glass thunder
modest whale
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If you're gonna punish a1n1- punish EG- as well, or don't punish at all
Inconsistency is just gonna make it worse

chilly hemlock
civic glacier
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@muted ore good morning cutie

chilly hemlock
supple hearth
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Fado is sus

royal cradle
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I do believe that sirius as a representative of WG should immediately act rationally, I dont blame him that WG is taking wrong actions but he is the bridge and connection between the cw player base and the rest of the company. Therefore I strongly believe that there should be an explanation coming why certain clans are being treated one way and others get away with the same or even worse things. It feels the same for ages now WG is doing a step forward to just make 2 backwards right after.

gilded sentinel
#

👆💯

marble oyster
glass thunder
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@frosty nexus will we see update here ?
about rekem ban or its for other cases

chilly hemlock
amber thorn
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It's disgusting that you can't see that EG did say that in chat too and Still not taking actions against it....in another word "kys" is not even an insult or any kind of bad words in this case .....

lime loom
chilly hemlock
burnt glacier
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I guess there is no sense atm to ask Sirius about reviewing of this situation. We are getting same reaction about it from WG's side.
The only way is to write this EG's phrase in chat by TOP-8, TOP-16 teams and report each other or post screens there to see them reaction just as another social experiment(Which will be sadly not supported by other clans)

chilly hemlock
atomic drum
fresh lance
#

Wonderful time in the morning to drink some coffee and enjoy some drama

jade cobalt
chilly hemlock
burnt glacier
amber thorn
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It seems like wargaming doesn't care about this part, infact they're breaking their own rules by taking actions against REK3M but not EG, There should have been 2 options to do, not ban rek3m or ban both rek3m and EG but wargaming is next level of skills to ban rek3m and leaving EG for the players to have fun watching incredible performance in professional tournament, the correct thing to do now since they're not going to ban EG is to give rek3m the cups back or it's unfair ...

chilly hemlock
fresh lance
iron peak
chilly hemlock
jade cobalt
marble oyster
chilly hemlock
burnt glacier
amber thorn
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This decision will affect wargaming in long terms my mate don't worry, this decision is the most stupid to be honest, they could have announced that Receiving reports about insults in tournament chat will be closed at "X" hour after that hour any proofs of insults or whatever rule breaking will not be punished for them, but instead they decided to break their own rules lmo

supple hearth
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Guys, lets juts just switch the topic and start complaining about webcams during top 4, it was way more enjoyable to read

chilly hemlock
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@burnt glacier @jade cobalt keep this polite or take it to dms

jade cobalt
vital obsidian
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The purpose with the new strict rules is clear, to cut the trashtalk from global chat in tours. The execution seem not be flawless yet. But in long run its good for the esportscene this sort of things are cleaned up. Maybe next step would be to remove global chat. Too much time wasted on the subject.

chilly hemlock
jaunty nexus
#

Emergency, need help from someone from WG asap - our team for the Top 32 championship (NXGEN) just got unregistered to let one person in but immediately deleted?????

chilly hemlock
supple hearth
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Heyyy I think I found a solution!!! Just do not allow to send messages to the opposite teams during tournament battles!!! 😱

amber thorn
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The fact that @muted ore is reading all this and he/she knows that decision they made was wrong but still doing nothing is very funny, big company like wargaming loosing a lot of players and fans by breaking their own rules is very sad, this might even affect wargaming as a company overall

burnt glacier
chilly hemlock
fast hareBOT
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dynoSuccess Belladonna#8163 was muted

chilly hemlock
#

Muted for personal attacks, not censorship 🙄

atomic drum
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We can still do something about this if we act as a community, the community WG refuses to be part of! If we do not show our discontent towards WG‘s double standards and urge them to act, this will reoccur each season; As it already did!

I would kindly ask everyone who wants to see results and sportsmanship, to add behind their discord name either:

!JusticeForREK3M

or

!WGrigsPYS

We are the movers and shakers of the competitive scene in WoTB. Without us prove your skill would simply not be a thing, so the least we deserve are an acceptable answer by WG to this fiasco, equal rules under which we compete, and therefore sportsmanship in the long!

chilly hemlock
jade cobalt
supple hearth
#

Instead WG can add quick chats like GG! Or Close Games! Well Played! Yep

chilly hemlock
burnt glacier
amber thorn
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Let's hope EG doesn't Disqualify from the professional tournament in this case or I will be so mad because WG broke their own rules to keep them in the tournament to see great performance in the tournament, let's hope it will be some spicy games 😀

gilded sentinel
#

I mean they didn’t punish EG for that purpose so we can have a spicy matches/grand finals. But yeah it’s still unfair decision

atomic drum
chilly hemlock
thorn shale
chilly hemlock
amber thorn
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Blitz will die very fast trust me, THE MOST rule they focus in blitz is toxicity in chat and the bans of doing it in blitz, but now just because EG is high skilled clan they didn't even take actions against them , infact they only banned "Shokkshy" from using chat only! why not doing same with REKEM???!????!?!??! to ban the players who insulted in chat instead of punishing the entire team

winter swallow
lime loom
jade cobalt
amber thorn
#

you guys left the main topic and focused in "blitz will die" part ... High IQ moment.@lime loom @thorn shale @winter swallow @jade cobalt

thorn shale
atomic drum
wind cloud
winter swallow
# amber thorn you guys left the main topic and focused in "blitz will die" part ... High IQ mo...

It is possible to discuss multiple things at once. You may struggle to cope with such a staggering mental task load but most 5 year olds and above can manage.

Blitz probably won't die for a few more years at least.

Face cams in Top 4 being mandatory is still a bit weird.

Double standards for in-game tournament chat from WG still an problematic.

New Tier X tank incoming during THE main tournament is literally par for the course so people should just prepare for it by now.

Such is life.

atomic drum
jaunty nexus
#

FIX THE TOURNAMENT LAYOUT

Our team (NXGEN) got DELETED half an hour ago when trying to get the last person in. Now we can’t even play as a full team, got 9 and had to rush and fill up with people not even in the team…

TimoTitan now cannot even play the championship with us, is there any way for WG to help us or are we screwed?

amber thorn
#

Expect nothing😀

gilded sentinel
#

Uff wow

pale solstice
#

I forgot to register my team… any way I can like register them real quick

gilded marsh
#

you had 3 days to register

jaunty nexus
#

It looks like it wasn’t only us, A7TRA and HSOP aren’t there. And -GX only have 7 now despite the fact that I remember them having more last time I checked

supple hearth
iron peak
#

12/16 teams on top 32 xd what a competitive top feels like no one want to play this bruh category REK3M will play top 50 ofc XD

burnt glacier
#

-DRGNS cause dissmised
😂

silk thistle
# chilly hemlock Wg dropped the ball already and they’re too proud to admit it. Once again they i...

do u think wg will punish EG at some point? i know i talked to sirius yesterday, and seeing ppl agreeing that "kys" is offensive to those who have had experiences with depression/self harm/suicide? bc im sure im not the only one offended by this. wg saying "oh we'll figure it out so it doesnt happen next time" doesnt help or solve this. tbh im just not sure how they dont find "kys" unacceptable

jaunty nexus
gilded marsh
# supple hearth That is not true!

Don’t be a joker. Teams that fail to register by the registration time do not deserve extra time to register. The registration deadline is shown in the tournaments and if you fail to meet it after 3 days, that’s you failing to be responsible, and WG should not be held accountable

pale solstice
untold tinsel
#

the gunner bought the farm, our accuracy will suffer

worn juniper
#

If kys is not a bad word, then why A1N1-‘s team is renamed. Is it because of “Ya” or is it because of “habibi” ? @muted ore

supple hearth
#

Here we go again, let me go grab my popcorn! @winter swallow 👍 😂

iron peak
noble star
livid oyster
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So i i guess, after getting all the information about this case - we can write "kys" in random/ranked/tournaments as much as we want and we cant get banned for that? Ah nvm, we aint EG-

atomic drum
tranquil vortex
noble star
#

Most real companies have pretty clear SOP’s on what their policies are. They also quickly correct errors when made.

#

WG has policies. They just don’t follow them all the time.

#

Which makes it impossible to figure out what will be done when violations occur.

gilded marsh
#

if anything, this whole situation should hopefully set a precedent for the future.

chilly hemlock
#

No. They won’t change their decision I don’t think

steel shell
#

I find funny the fact that everytime wg screw up something they go around it with saying "we will do something to prevent it in the future"

chilly hemlock
atomic drum
jaunty nexus
#

Well contact player support they said, they’ll help you they said well obviously not when this is the response to me saying that our team got deleted… I told them about the broken invites and everything but no response since getting this useless answer

supple hearth
#

Apply to the team next time instead of inviting

worn juniper
#

Looks like tournament rules from WG and behavior from WG contradict each other. Not the first time tho. You guys just renamed a team because there was “KYS” at their name. But you guys did not punished a team which used “KYS” at tournament battle. I just want to know the exact rules now. Because im worried about my team. Or i just want to know, are rules not for everyone in this game? @muted ore

mellow belfry
#

Man u had several days to register team. You didnt? Unlucky. You cant blame WG bcs u and ur captain are irresponsible

steel shell
silk thistle
iron peak
inner socket
steel shell
#

top32 is a great achievement

gilded marsh
#

top 32 is like a stepping stone into top 16 and top 8. be proud and play your hearts out. one day you’ll be in the big leagues playing top 16 and maybe even top 8.

thorn shale
#

You inspire me to try my best and never give up. 👍👍👍💪

iron peak
mellow belfry
#

Top 32 avatar is more rare than pro avatar. Thats a fact

supple hearth
#

Lower echelon avatar is more rare than top 8,

inner socket
#

avatar is objectively gorgeous, the camo is nice and the background is decent. Everyone should play in 32

atomic drum
thorn shale
#

Are there any rewards for top 32 even? Btw gg wg with renaming aini they just used slang

fluid pilot
#

The legendary lower echelon avatar

inner socket
jaunty nexus
burnt glacier
rocky crystal
#

6 teams competing in Lower Eche. Elim ftw

modest whale
#

Thank you mystic!!!

peak terrace
chilly hemlock
peak terrace
#

It would be very wholesome. Depending on what device you have, you could have a whopping 30 seconds to get to know your enemy. It’s simply genius.

sinful crest
#

I agree with panda 🐼

chilly hemlock
peak terrace
#

Just more opportunities to improve my knowledge of other languages. I see this as an absolute win.

winged saffron
#

I would love to hear the vc of my favorite teams while they play

slim blade
chilly hemlock
fluid pilot
#

Hmmm i wonder what the original message said 😂

fresh lance
#

pls editsnipe

supple hearth
sinful crest
#

@supple hearth hey little guy!

jaunty nexus
#

Well this is the response I got concerning the issue of our team being deleted. Don’t expect any solution though…

daring swan
#

@jaunty nexus just register earlier bruh

jaunty nexus
daring swan
#

But you had two + days to register. Why wouldn’t you tell that person a day or two before to accept invites

pure lava
#

Unluck

rare trellis
#

I support kJly6Hu4ka [JKR] this Autumn Season 2021 in WoTB 3D PvP MMO tank shooter.

night aspen
#

Why are you so cringe

tardy bay
rare trellis
jaunty nexus
proud holly
#

accountability is a crucial trait to have when you wish to be a competitive player!

thick elk
#

That’s why u don’t let certain people lead the team lol

weary vapor
#

I support Cinnamon_Scented [METRO] this Autumn Season 2021 in WoTB 3D PvP MMO tank shooter. @fallen leaf

narrow meteor
#

You guys make me want to HE myself

supple hearth
surreal hinge
wide basalt
#

dn

merry blade
#

yall sleeping on heat

sly axle
#

If u dont have the time to accept an inv how r u gonna have the time to play

rare trellis
tardy bay
#

If u dont have the time to accept an inv how r u gonna have the time to play

pastel tartan
left sonnet
solar saffron
#

yapaaaaaa!

bold sierra
supple hearth
#

We will miss you Daria, Knopka 😭

wary dew
#

Oi

thorn shale
#

Good morning tournament players.

tardy bay
#

Who is streaming Eu and Na?

ancient shard
#

Robert and fishy prob streaming NA idk

mellow belfry
surreal hinge
cobalt yarrow
tardy bay
#

👍

sudden shadow
#

in na its only 2 streams i believe,would be nice if theres at least one more team bein streamed @cobalt yarrow

wicked snow
#

Noobeater should be streaming tbh....
Someone putting in efforts ect and in the end not being given the opportunity to stream is discouraging , WG should support their streamers especially someone who understands CW ect

thorn salmon
#

I agree with this one, noobeater is a really underrated streamer ngl

wet tide
#

+1

thorn shale
#

I think Droodles is a very underrated streamer.

grand pumice
#

keep thinking that

proud holly
#

The lower the rating the better

daring swan
#

Is bandrbear streaming

gilded sentinel
odd wolf
#

i’m a big fan legundo

glass thunder
sudden shadow
#

i think wg approves but streamer needs to apply

shell void
#

Hey Devs! One quick Question, when will you readd Gravity Force Mode?

merry blade
thorn shale
rugged grove
#

can we not receive rewards for watching streams from other servers?

mellow belfry
# glass thunder its wg who pick or players apply ?

they put first streamers that are here for longer, so: fugit amaunet 3very and wildoneshelper, its fair since they spended the most time at streaming, but they should find a way where new streamers can stream best games (without getting one "veteran streamer" slot)

silk thistle
pastel tartan
rugged grove
silk thistle
thorn shale
#

Wth is this

glass thunder
supple hearth
gilded marsh
spice briar
#

è_é

mellow belfry
fluid pilot
#

no

fresh lance
vital marsh
#

@muted ore A question, from the Professional Tournament to the Blitz Cup of any region, will the rewards of the livestreams be changed?

modest whale
#

I support SHERMAN he is extremely cool

proud holly
#

He was .. . just asking a question

tardy bay
#

Hey

weary vapor
dreamy bolt
#

Does this mean the tour is over, In asia only 7 teams participated and there was one group, it says the final stage will be decided once the teams are drawn but everyone has played and there is no further information

sterile apex
#

Is it to late to sign up for tournement

primal talon
#

@sterile apex yes

rocky crystal
#

I think @rugged grove deserves the right to stream. Everyone loves him and he knows exactly whats happening in the Fall Season 2021 World of Tanks Blitz Tournament!!!

rugged grove
#

bruh

steel shell
#

I would like to share my passion for tournaments, anyone with me?

candid lance
#

☠️

latent olive
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With regards to streaming, there are various issues that need to be considered. Unfortunately EU has more streamers than there are slots, which means that some unfortunately do not get to stream. Yes we also have 4 regions, but some, especially NA, actually have a lack of streamers. There is an expectation that some of the EU based streamers will therefore cover NA, which places quite a burden on the streamer due to the time difference.
For example, for myself the NA streams start at 5am and for those based in central Europe that is a 3am start. Add into that mix RL commitments and the overall situation becomes obvious.
Not only that but most of the streamer are EN speaking and we are now seeing an increase in other languages, such as Spanish, which is fantastic. For obvious reasons priority is given to ensuring that non-ENG speaking streamers get a slot, which again reduces the amount of slots available.
We therefore try to hit a fair balance, whereby newer streamers look to the Challengers tour when there are too many ENG speaking streamers on a particular region or look at covering another region, like NA or even CIS.
There is no point in expanding the spec slots really, because all this does is saturate the streams and results in confusion for viewers and is unrewarding for the actual streamer.
Its not as simple as 'plonk X streamer in' because of these reasons. All the streamers have worked hard to bring coverage of the tours, some over a very long period of time, and it would therefore be unfair to sideline them as such. As I said, we try to operate a fair and reasonable system so that everyone has the opportunity to stream, be it a different server or Challengers tour.
Presently the Challengers tour for NA is totally not covered and the EU is lacking coverage also. As for the lower echelon, well not a single person is streaming any of those, mainly because everyone wants the prize - PRO TOUR, which alas cant be done for everyone.

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I myself stepped down from both NA & Asia in order for others to have a go.

winter swallow
slim blade
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Lower Echelon best echelon

winter swallow
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I agree with WG decision to limit coverage to one streamer per fixture. Stream saturation benefits no one.

latent olive
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Personally I would like all the tours to be streamed and for newer streamers to consider doing that. Main issue however is that those tours wont be rewards and thus a lack of interest, which puts the streamer off somewhat. I think streaming all the tours would be good for the overall tour scene but as I said everyone wants the PRO tour and arent overly interested in the lower tours, which is a shame.
I myself started by streaming the Challengers Tour on EU & NA and it was great fun. I also streamed the Challengers on CIS and again it was great fun. Ok so I didnt get many viewers, but I did get to stream clans that wouldnt normally get coverage and see some great action.
I note that for this season, Rolling and Wildoneshelper are down to stream EU Challengers, which is great for the scene and the game.
Again I would ask those who are newer to the commentary side of streaming to consider the lower tours, because they are a great place to learn and also give much needed coverage

proud holly
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If they could cover the final stage of NA challengers, I'd be happy 🙂

winter swallow
# latent olive Personally I would like all the tours to be streamed and for newer streamers to ...

Agreed.

Especially since in 2021, Challengers on all servers contain some very good teams that didn't quite make the cut given the new PYS qualifying design.

EU has R3TI SPRTA FEN1X A1N1- etc. - these are teams that have taken pro teams to task during the PYS on multiple occasions.

The quality of gameplay we will see will be worth watching.

IDK about LE (Lower Echelon) on Asia / NA - but even that on EU and CIS has talent.

But like Fugit said the core issue with NA is absence of native streamers and the killer timezone difference for streamers in other regions. For me it is a 2am start (prep.) and a 5am conclusion. It just isn't feasible except in exceptional circumstances and with a bit of biting the bullet IRL next day.

analog osprey
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Also respect to Robert streaming in Europe for na server.

latent olive
# winter swallow Agreed. Especially since in 2021, Challengers on all servers contain some very ...

Totally agree!

EU and CIS Challengers have some truly great teams, many of which couldve been Top 8 and missed by narrow margins in some cases. Same with lower echelon on those servers, there are some top teams residing in that group.

Yes I get the viewing figures goes down somewhat, but you and I both know we dont do it for that reason, we do it because we love the front row seat and showing clans wars, regardless of the tier.

As for NA, yes I am in a similar boat, its a 3am start to prepare, with a 5am kick off and a 7am finish followed by work at 7.30am - its just a killer.

@analog osprey Yes, Robert is one of those Spanish speaking streamers I was referring to and its great that we now have such streamers, as the Spanish speaking side, especially on NA, was missing out since PapRage stopped streaming - so yes, total respect for Robert stepping up

muted ore
nocturne veldt
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thanks friends

fluid pilot
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Robert eres una legenda mucho amor de los estados unidos 🙏

upper oar
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Fugit, great points. i pinned that for future reference

nocturne veldt
latent olive
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@upper oar Thanks mate, really appreciate that 🙂

vital obsidian
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Its great to have extensive coverage of EU pro! IMO Challenger is definately worth to watch especially the finals. It is also highly motivating for the teams. Huge thanks go to all the streamers!

One wish for WG @muted ore :

is it somewhere possible to find a complete list of cowerages, now we that play on EU can in game see only EU pro tour streamers, but not other regions and idk if challengers. Especially eventual english streams on CIS are impossible find. Would it be possible to post the full setup of streamlinks somewhere? Maybe here on discord, so they are saved for future aswell?

dreamy bolt
lime glen
outer isle
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The main prize is a cheeseburger or something like that I guess

vital marsh
steel shell
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Just let it be

timber obsidian
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got the avatar im out

jolly kite
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How i can find stremars for RU server guys?

surreal hinge
steel shell