tourneys-discussion

[sinful crest]

+1

[narrow meteor]

Good job WG, a step in the right direction

[thorn shale]

Tournaments are fun

[atomic tartan]

hopefully not accompanied by 3 leaps backward this time

@proven tartan that's ironic, cuz you know what else is absolutely stupid? you gaining an advantage thanks to your 82% reroll over everyone else who didn't.

that just means your first account was ridiculously bad lol

and my point still stands, the fact that you gain an advantage by rerolling over everyone else who kept their first accounts, is ridiculous.

[vapid crypt]

Bruh that’s like bubba level

[thick elk]

lol facts, this system is a little better, but still mainly good for rerolls

[gilded marsh]

Why not do random seeding for the first couple ascents. then make the seeding based on CP%?

[untold tinsel]

how about we cancel the tournaments

[analog osprey]

#funny

[novel bay]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[winged saffron]

Seating will always benefit rerolls, unless you go by pure battle count for whatever reason

[limber lintel]

Incorrect, it coes not automatically favor them, the way WG makes it it qill, but it doesnt necessarily favor rerolls if designed properly

[toxic lintel]

seeding will never be perfect tbh, there will always be situations it can be abused but at least it shouldnt be as bad as it was previously.

[thorn shale]

scuba booba

[fresh lance]

With this new seeding my account won't be completely useless doodoo that drags down my team, so I'm happy about this since I never rerolled and didn't have plans to either lol

[rocky crystal]

For NA i think its as long as ur tier 9+ u dont have bots but if u drop down to t7 and below you fight bots and i think once you hit like 1k games in pubs and play t1-7, bots will disappear. I dont know the exact battle count tho but somewhere around that number

[odd tangle]

Better get half your team on the grind then.

[dim pivot]

Half? we r all hauling butts here

[graceful jetty]

Actually I believe reroll do get easier matchmaker for the first 5k battles on Asia as well

[rocky crystal]

Maybe since i dont play asia server but my reroll w like sub 3k games dont even have Bot MM and literally saw TJ in pubs at like 2am 60% of the time one night.

But regardless, it should be based on last 1K Games or maybe last 300 games in t10 just because then instead of training, u literally gotta tell ur captain "Hold up, lemme do 30 games a day for the next month"

[graceful jetty]

Clearly the matchmaker recognises that TJ is bad player. There is no other explanation 🤷‍♂️

[flat goblet]

LOL

[muted ore]

There is no limit of 5,000 battles. You can read more in the news on the game portal.

All the conditions for calculating the weight are given in the news.

The new map may appear in some Autumn season tournaments, but it definitely won't appear in all of them.

[proud holly]

Are the qualification tournies round robin.

[burnt glacier]

@muted ore Hello!
Will you remove or not such maps as himelsdorf, yamato harbour, canyon from map pool in future season?

[graceful jetty]

Are the maps really as bad as everybody thought they would be?

[burnt glacier]

Yamato and Canyon are not balanced for T10* IMO

[leaden belfry]

@muted ore I'm late to the party, but finally read the news article. I've got a few questions.
~~ - what if someone doesn't have 1k battles in total on their account? For instance - someone makes a new account, buys a tier X tank and plays one battle to have their 100% winrate account intact. The examples in the article assume the account has had more than 1k battles in total, whereas that doesn't need to be the case~~ found the answer, read right over that, sorry

• the article doesn't mention whether or not rating battles are counted, or if it's just random battles. Are ratings battles taken into account?

• "If the number of such battles exceeds 1,000, the "weight" will be equal to the player's percentage of victories in this selection of battles. " <-- this confuses me. How does the game select which 1k battles count? Or does this sentence mean overall tier X stats are looked at instead?

[echo glade]

yo, im new here

[muted ore]

@burnt glacier Hi. Unfortunately, I can't answer that question now.

@leaden belfry
Hi )

1. If there are 1000 battles missing, the missing battles will amount to defeats.
2. No, only random battles.
3. If more than 1000, all at that level are counted.

[leaden belfry]

thank you for clarifying =)

[worn juniper]

When is the new season starting?

[thorn salmon]

Mid september @worn juniper not the exact date unfortunately, i only know mid september so somewhere between 10 and 20 of september i guess

[worn juniper]

Do you know the day?

[thorn shale]

He just told u he doesn’t know the exact date

[worn juniper]

He said mid september. And then edited

[chilly hemlock]

Wait until wg announce it. You know, like everyone else

[thorn shale]

@muted ore Hello. you told us about system of tournament. Can we know more about format of qualifiers and format of top 8 tournament? Thanks

[thorn salmon]

Its fine, i edited the msg bcuz of the slow mode lmao

[chilly hemlock]

I imagine they don’t even know yet. They’ll announce it when they are ready

[muted ore]

@thorn shale Hello. We will make announcements later.

[thorn shale]

Thank you !

[shy sun]

@muted ore I ve got a question too, since the news article does not cover everything. What if I dont play randoms anymore, and the only way I keep in shape is ratings? In case I have 0 random battles, what will my winrate be when it comes to seeding?

[grim blade]

Refer to his answer to Amaunet's question above. Only random battles are taken into account. In case you have 0 random batles, your wr is 0% I suppose.

[shy sun]

So u tryna tell me I gotta start questioning my existance in those 40% teams again? And...and top 8 and 16 will be decided on that? Lord have mercy on me, bring random seeding back

[grim blade]

You posted a question and I helped answering it. I am not trying to tell you anything about "I gotta start questioning my existance in those 40% teams again?".

[tulip finch]

How would it be if theyd make it 1k ranked instead of 1k random battles

• Solves the reroll issue
• The rerolls would have stats already
• Gives the mode some kind of purpose

• Problem is people farming themselves down to bronze in t7-9 and the Getting good stats in T10
• ratings also isnt that enjoyable

[muted ore]

@shy sun Only random battles are taken into account when determining the weighting.
If you already have 1,000 random battles, they will be counted.
If you have not played 1000 random fights, they will be replaced by defeats.

[wet tide]

#bringbackrandomseeding

[leaden belfry]

^ fair warning - that is fine, but people can't start spamming it 😅

[modest whale]

random seeding on top 💪

[leaden belfry]

Pretty sure that'd make ratings all the more toxic tbh

As something would actually depend on it then

[shy sun]

@muted ore Ok thx, another question if you dont mind. So 1k random tier x battles will tell my winrate. As we all know, random teams are usually bad to very bad, hence why I stopped playing randoms. No matter what you do, you usually struggle to win randoms because of the teams. So, how are random 40% teams going to determine my cw winrate? This is literally random seeding but worse

[tulip finch]

Random is toxic ratings is also toxic doesn't change much imo
If they are they can get reported and silenced for a while since nothing else is done anyway
Random battles are also able to be played in a toon so rating could be somewhat more accurate but then again it's ratings and with the lack of players it's mostly just annoying

[cold canyon]

Can anybody rework this trash tournament system? Invitations expire after few minutes. Means that host has to be available all day.

[muted ore]

@shy sun In 1,000 fights you can influence your results, even in random teams. Comparing such figures is much more fair than comparing teams with 100% wr accounts.

[sly axle]

How is this worse than random seeding? It’s pretty obvious that better players will generally have higher winrates

[shy sun]

Wait for the start of the season, u ll see what I m all about

[modest whale]

people can get 60-70% wr with the same teams you get 🤨

[graceful jetty]

Just wait for the start of the season dude you’ll see what he’s on about dude

[thorn shale]

I’m first in all of em

[daring swan]

But it is also all your t10 regular battles and most people already have more than 1k of them.

[crisp mirage]

New season not even start it will be wors then summer🤣🤣🤣

[odd wolf]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐

[latent olive]

couldnt resist doing a vid on this tbf 😉

[gray pond]

I wonder when does Mojkar create the summer season video

[rugged grove]

random suggestion, i think ascent tournaments should also give out season coins as rewards, because i don't see a reason as to why the players playing tournaments the most aren't getting season coins.

[odd wolf]

@rugged grove well they get season coins at the end of the ascents when they give out the tickets

[untold tinsel]

i like tournaments

[hushed dune]

🐵🙈🙉

[magic kraken]

i think they just misspelled

[ripe jasper]

no they just straight up insulted our former president, they capitalized letter E to bypass the system or something like that.

[elder coral]

You’re on a Vietnamese team in a clan called LAOS?

[upper oar]

@ripe jasper submit a ticket to customer support, do not bring the issue here

[ripe jasper]

thank you for the advice, i just don't know where to contact with WG's staff

[winter swallow]

New seeding system is a step in the right direction but still favours rerolls and penalises longer term players.

An ideal fix variant would be a seeding system based on a player's most recent 1000 Tier X battles.

7 years ago I played this game very differently compared to now.

[upper oar]

i will get you a link

[upper oar]

most recent 1k battles make a lot more sense, this is exactly what I was thinking a few hours ago

[steel shell]

some players including me have said that switching to recent games would be much better but also some said that recent battles can be rigged
Personally i cant imagine someone rigging 1K battles but ok

[thorn shale]

I don’t want good players spamming toons in my free dmg games

[tulip finch]

I would love to see those 1k in ranked for pure suffering 😂
also fixes the reroll issue cuz they don't get a separate queue there

[jade hornet]

Idk, that would mean all players would have to spam toonbattles and arent able to play solo anymore in order to grind wr and stay competitive in last 1k battles wrwise. I wouldnt like to not play solos anymore just to grind wr in toon

[merry blade]

i mean 33 battles a day

[thorn shale]

Yea also it has to be 30 day 1k games, because if someone played his 1k 1 year ago it’s not accurate right? “1 year ago he played completely different” @winter swallow
But then like you said it would be a “no life schedule”
Too bad

[jade hornet]

idk i think there should be 4 tournament days and 3 days rest per week to then play the random battles for the seeding...

[shy sun]

Autumn season is the second yellow card for wg 👍

[merry blade]

Are they even on the second red card? By now I would’ve thought they already ejected 2 players

[thorn shale]

sus

[proud holly]

Clipper meta les gooo

[slender harness]

the maintenance ends one hour after our tournament starts + buggy server after update
going to be fun

[twilit venture]

surely they gonna cancel it right??

[slender harness]

depends if the server is stable enough when we play i guess

[latent olive]

The issue, as I saw it, was the 100% wr manipulation not re-rolls per se. What WG have implemented, although it is yet to be seen in action, appears to address the initial concern and eliminated the impact of 100% wr accounts.

I personally see no issue towards those who re-roll, because players are free to play the game however they wish and if they decide to re-roll in order to gain better stats then that is up to them. I doubt they would get 100% wr after 1k battles in T10 and with the current player base chances are the average re-roll will only be hitting about 65%, yes better re-rolls would undoubtable hit a better WR but those are the guys who already have unicum status so why would they bother? So I am not sure what all the fuse is actually about really. Some of the re-rolls I have come across in the game with 70%+ WR generally have less than 1k battles and the majority I have come across with more 1k across all tiers are in the 60's not 70's.

Also the criteria initially applies to 1k battles in T10 (assuming thats the only tour tier - let's forget summer season 2020). If a re-roll has a 70% wr after 1k battles in T10 then fair play to them I say. If they dont have 1k battles in the tour tier then I am assuming WG will apply a % based forfeit for each lower tier used to bring the total up to 1k, like T9 is assumed a 75% wr, T8 50%, T7 25% and such although I have no idea what forfeit WG is intending to apply. If you have less than 1k battles total, then topping up to 1k with loses has a big effect I think. Even if you have done say 900 battles and have a 70% wr, having the additional 100 battles added as pure losses has a rather big impact indeed and drastically alters your WR.

Let's at least be thankful that WG finally, although it took far toooo long, has done something to address the immediate issue, namely 100% wr. Let's see how it works in practice and if it doesnt work we can then go back with recommendations for change

[graceful jetty]

@muted ore

[thorn shale]

@muted ore

[forest matrix]

@latent olive problem is not about reroll - problem is the penalty you put on old players assessing their skills upon their winrate from years ago.

And it took one second to most ppl here to identify this obvious flaw that can btw be easily fixed. Such a pity that WG does half the job and does not consider something that has been asked for countless times here.
Actually it’s not about the product it’s more about the design process it and inability from a development team to capture its needs.

Unless and honestly this is becoming quite clear to me, unless somehow WG uses tournaments as a way to get quite significant amount of money from legacy players that have stopped paying as they have somehow « finished the game »
I guess a reroll is quite expensive (get meta t10 tank fast = lot of free xp + lot of crates, not talking about crew competences that you might want to boost as well)

[shy sun]

We should all get rerolls 💸

[tulip finch]

WG approves that😂

[frosty nexus]

📢 Dear players of Asia server,
According the update release we have to move the start-time of Midseason Assault 1 tournament (Final stage) from 19:00 UTC +8 to 20:00 UTC +8

Sorry for any inconvenience

[slim blade]

just give us press accounts and we can all go home

[winter swallow]

Rigging is a fair point. Could always increase battle count. To be honest - 5k most recent battles is totally realistic for a game THAT IS 7 YEARS OLD.

@thorn shale just make it most recent battles. If someone hasn't played for years their abilities won't have grown. I can see you trying to be smart but it's not working out for you bro xoxo

@rough tusk True. That being said. 5k battles is ~15 battles per day for a year... it's really not a huge hurdle for anyone except rerollers and stat riggers. But yeah 5k Tier X might be restrictive. Just have two measures. 5k min. battles to get seeded by Tier X WR min. 1k battles.

[rough tusk]

You're assuming everyone started playing the game 7 years ago

A nornal person playing 10 games a day would require 1.5 years to complete 5k battles assuming they started playing tier X from the first day

@winter swallow my point being, to make comp more accessible, 5k battles is more of a hindrance to the new players. Latest 1k battles should do the trick. I hope WG re-evaluates the formula after autumn

[slim blade]

yeah if you want to grow comp you shouldn’t lock it to new players

[proud holly]

I like the idea of most recent 1k battles in the weighted tier

[winter swallow]

Setting a min. battle count for seeding doesn't lock out new players.

The principle of a seeding system is to design match scheduling around known abilities of teams and players to avoid no.1 and no.2 (etc.) knocking each other out in the first round.

New players not getting seeded is a totally valid approach to seeding systems. Like. Take tennis. Do you seed someone who has never played a competitive match before? No. You don't. That would be stupid. Seeding needs data on comp performance to function. Same in Blitz. No point seeding a new player that is absent performance data.

Seeding and participation are not the same thing. A new player can play as part of a team and be unseeded.

Teams are 10 players, right? So keep the system of your top 7 seeds defining team average. That means each team can take 3 unseeded players if they want to, without affecting their overall seed position.

I am willing to bet I have thought about Blitz tournament seeding systems more than most of you combined 😆 ... and that includes WG esports dept.

[slim blade]

tbh they will probably fix the seeding to recent 1k games after autumn

[jade hornet]

dont think so. wouldnt be a good decision imo

[steel shell]

If you wanted my recent 5k we would have moved to 2019 or even later 😂

[winter swallow]

Well the current WR system is using them and battles that are even older... so... referring only to most recent battles (and focusing on tier of the tournament) is literally the most relevant way to use public match data to seed tournaments.

FYI I am still advocating for using actual tournament results to seed tournaments... I just don't think WG have the ability to deliver that.

[vital obsidian]

Using recent stats would force veteran cw players to play randoms, idk how happy they would be about that 🤒

[upbeat iris]

You can still use the results of the qualification tournament for the seeding fo the second day tournament. This way only winners of their respective groups will get a free pass too. This shouldn’t be as hard to implement as ELO type of seeding systems.

Let’s say you use round Robin or double elimination for a qualifier to reduce the influence the WR seeding has because individual performance in randoms doesn’t resemble CW ability of a team.

The results of these qualifiers are then used for a strongest weakest seeding based on the ranking of teams in their respective qualifier groups. This way winning or losing series is partially responsible for the seeding of day 2 and thus reduces the effect of bad seeding.

Imho, you can mitigate a lot of problems with the current seeding by choosing a format that reduces the influence the WR seeding has on the eventual rankings. Maybe this can be the focus for the near future.

[winter swallow]

No more than using all stats (as we currently do) does. In fact, recent stats would mean vets would have less compensating for legacy stats to do... less to none depending on how recent you make the filter.

[thorn shale]

Your qualification tournament needs seeding as well
Why not remove qualifiers if there’s qualification tournament already

[upbeat iris]

Where did I say it didn’t need it 👀

[thorn shale]

So just make qualifiers in round robin format instead of overcomplicating lol

[upbeat iris]

Maybe read it again to see that’s exactly what I did say 👀

[thorn shale]

Ok I’ve read again. People will never like it since they disband a team and create new one every tournament

[upbeat iris]

Isn’t that part of the problem of ELO type systems? ELO of individuals rather than teams?

I’m only talking about a PYS style format with 2 days where day 1 decides day 2 seeding. To make mismatches as a result of seeding rarer in addition to a format like round robin/DE reducing the influence of seeding.

[thorn shale]

Do you also think the idea of “team rerolling” would destroy the whole system? A team that used to be bad and has hard time improving elo just makes new clan and voila better seeding? Just like players reroll now.

[stuck temple]

hey tour aint working

[steel shell]

Honestly i would even make some kind of format that top4 from previous season are guaranteed to have a spot in the pro tournament and the rest would fight for remaining 4 spots but I guess no1 would like that
In other esports direct invites+qualifiers are usual

[thorn shale]

3 v 3 is cursed

[terse nebula]

I dont get why people dont see how this new system will make tournaments less atractive. Lets say you are a "normal" player with 50k games and you have 60% wr and you have 10k games in tier10 with 54% wr. Now this new system forces players either play 3-5k games to get tier10 stats to that lvl wich clan has played before or reroll and play 1k games but this reroll wont have tanks. WG shouldnt listen to top16 clans or players, because they wont get hit as badly as mid section clans. Basicly this might kill future new top tournament players. Best thing would be that this new system has 1k games/3months wich would count as team wr structure, that way all account would be active, mm rigging would be harder, and all would benefit from this new system even old players. Its simple

[thorn shale]

It’s not perfect, but neither are the ideas in this chat

[hollow bolt]

So you are complaining that the seeding is going to be more accurate?

Because yes using career wr at a specific tier with a filter to stop rerolls is more accurate than career wr...

[stuck temple]

Hey for u guys also is the tournement crashing?

[jade hornet]

Here is my idea: A players receives the wr of the team for every pys in the past season and this will be used for the next season. if u havent played a pys last season u will have 50wr in that pys. Example: Lets say I played in EG- and our team had 80 wr in pys 1-4. so every player will have 80wr on their acc for pys 1-4. now i decide to play with another clan and that team only play on 60 wr in pys 5-8. so my wr would be (80+82+78+80+63+57+60+60)/8 = 70 wr for next season. meanwhile the ppl that stayed in eg for all pys will have 80wr, or if i only chose to go in pys6 to the other clan:(80+82+78+80+80+80+60+60)/8 = 75. So every player receives a winrate per pys and next season the seeding wr will be the avg of all players in the team based on last season‘s total pys result. (im not in eg, its just for an easier explanation)

[chilly hemlock]

Let me point out an obvious oversight. If a player/team does badly under your system, say they have 30% wr, why would they bother to use main accounts instead of rerolling and immediately being at 50%?

[chilly hemlock]

Yes. Again. The best minimum way for this is win rate seeding for only the tier of that tournament

[daring swan]

Why can’t it just be 600-800 tier 10 battles in the last 6 months without toons and a requirement of two researchable t10s to play tournaments. Only argument I see is that you have to be an active player (sort of). Playing like 4 battles a day is not really much.

[steel shell]

@daring swan xD without toon?

[jade hornet]

well it will not make too much of a differnce since u either way will be on the lower half obviously with previous 50 wr and wont get higher wr in that season. Good thing about this system is that all teams above 50 wr => meaning at least all top20 teams wont need to reroll or cant switch accs next season anf cant abuse the system rlly

//Answer to @chilly hemlock : wdym hurt sb? a seeding system always hurts the lower 50 percent since it will match them vs better ppl. this system is like the current one, just with a different source for the wr

[daring swan]

@steel shell yeah so people who want to get high wr can’t just toon for all of the games
Bruh lol
@chilly hemlock are they not allowed to use blitz stars? Well if blitzstars can do it maybe wg can
True Ik any new system would take a long time tbf

[steel shell]

30 60 90 days

[chilly hemlock]

What’s the point of a system that benefits half the teams and hurts the other half?

[thorn shale]

Hello wargaming please explain to me where my avatar is for the clan ace challenge at your earliest convenience THANK YOU SO MUCH

[chilly hemlock]

Because I doubt it’s easy to just take a rolling number of battles from every player

[chilly hemlock]

Probably could/have their own but that’s way more complicated. Remember that this new system took 6 months to make…

[limber lintel]

just do a format where stage 1 is a round robin with good teams being spread by looking at wr, stage 2 you put teams in DE spread by looking at the best wins/bracket in stage 1, reduces the influence of seeding by a lot, while still making good teams prove their worth by beating a relatively large number of teams in stage 1

[burnt glacier]

@limber lintel damn
You are so smart

[frosty nexus]

📢 Dear players of EU and ASIA realms,
We faced some technical issues which happened because of the update release.
We have to cancel quick tournaments 3vs3 which take place right now.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[frosty nexus]

@thorn shalehello, clan event is different from tournament activities. Please contact Community Managers about this.

[thorn shale]

No u

[vale bluff]

for how long

[latent olive]

why no reward though?

[carmine solstice]

I am overwhelmed with emotion. So generous xox

Not sure where credits are but that’s ok. I’m so happy already

[slim blade]

I think that’s a glitch, you were only meant to receive it once

[carmine solstice]

It’s always been like that. Point is the 48 gold

[gleaming pollen]

Tournament seeding should be based on wildones power rating obviously.

[rapid shard]

How that we not think about that earlier. Its the solution for all the trouble we ever had

[thorn shale]

S

[winter radish]

Hey, does anyone got the same problems with the 3v3 tourney ?
I created a team and the tournament just disappeared

[frank forum]

Same for us

[gleaming pollen]

Check the last pinned message

[winter radish]

Ah thank you, hope it’s not permanently

[latent olive]

didnt receive reward after winning

[winter radish]

Because there is no tournament anymore

[frosty nexus]

@winter radishplease check attached message. 3vs3 tournaments were cancelled for today.

[winter radish]

Ok so it’s permanent (for today). Thanks sorry for making you repeat

[light aspen]

Hey,does Midseason Assault 1 tier X tour for mixed controls will be shown on clans tournament page?

[elder coral]

no it is not a clan tournament

[maiden anvil]

I don’t think assault should be in a tournament name because it is a criminal offence.

[rare trellis]

that’s crazy

[primal talon]

I think that its Highly inaproppriate xD

[elder coral]

uh huh

edit: that was a quick mod response yeeted that bot out real fast lol

[upper oar]

ye

[frosty nexus]

@maiden anvilcan you explain please why do you think so and what's wrong with the name of the tournament?

[upper oar]

🙄

...its fine

[wet tide]

Sorry to bring it to you, but you’re playing a game about 7 tanks trying to blow up 7 other tanks. Unless tournaments should be named puppies and rainbows cuz that showcases the tournament play real well lol

[chilly hemlock]

Are you encouraging dog fighting?

[frosty nexus]

After the small talk with player we decided to rename tournaments "Midseason Assault" to Midseason Challenge.
It's very important for us to stay respectful for all players. If some words might be translated / interpreted wrong we will react on this and change the naming.
Thank you for your paying our attention on this. We appreciate it 🙂

[shy sun]

New seeding system gets translated offensively in my language, change it

[jovial flame]

I'm wondering what the ping was as well

[wet tide]

Ehmmmmm
Didn’t even think about that option lmao

[chilly hemlock]

I think mid season challenge works

[copper kestrel]

ah yes "assault" is now bad to use.
twitter moment.

[limber lintel]

Welcome to snowflake generation woop woop

[thorn shale]

Replace "Assault" with "A salt" 🤷

[copper kestrel]

wow imagine banning a person just because he made a joke about the situation just now that is literally too stupid to be assessed.

Jesus christ people in this server.

[burnt glacier]

Imagine being offended by word ''Assault''

[limber lintel]

Lmao what is this about?

[copper kestrel]

They're just memeing about me, we're in the same server. Don't read into it.

[slim blade]

phahaha

[ember marlin]

Eh I personally wasnt offended by it but still good change
Doesnt effect much and prevents people from getting pissed off

[limber lintel]

Wish wg could react so fast to change seeding, ;)

[modest whale]

There's no way he wasnt trolling right

[winged saffron]

That assault thing had to have been a joke, and ended up getting the tournament name changed lol

[untold tinsel]

dang man, i really like assaulting people.. what a shame

[scenic thorn]

Assault base A

[green orchid]

Everytime i play this game i feel like im getting assaulted with the substandard teams, ping, gameplay changes and the next system implemented into blitz comp seasons 🥶 and before anyone says it yes nobody is forcing me to play the game.

[drifting jetty]

Dear WG:

So, if the word "assault" is now banned because it's not respectful, I have a few more to suggest.

You said if some words are translated or interpreted wrong, you could change it.
I take issue with Wargaming, because it has the word "war" in it. It seems destructive and unpleasant. Could you change the name to something else? Maybe Moneygaming would work.

Also, this game has, like, tanks shooting at each other and you hear the voices of the poor souls trapped inside. Could we turn this game into something else less horrible like, um, candy crush tank game? That sounds like it wouldn't offend anyone.

[lapis epoch]

precisely the issues with this game🙏

[steel shell]

I can co sign that im getting assaulted by ping as well

[slim blade]

I feel like tanks imply too much violence. Making the duck game mode a permanent feature to replace randoms is a much more zen idea.

[steel shell]

I dont understand in which culture is word “assault” offensive when youre literally playing tank game

[modest whale]

I dont understand why people don't realize it's sarcasm 😔

[limber lintel]

I don't understand WG can act so fast for this but not for seeding, #FeelsBadMan

[chilly hemlock]

It’s difficult to comprehend how changing a word in a title is less difficult than creating an entirely new seeding system that uses thousands of player’s in game statistics

[limber lintel]

cus making weighted seeding is totally not just multiply battlecount into the formula? I'm sorry clearly maths are way harder than that

[chilly hemlock]

This is the same team that broke their own weighted wr system purely by accident, took 6 months to realize that it was broken and another 6 months to make a “new”system

[latent olive]

Im still at a loss tbf. The issue was get rid of 100% wr impact, this has been done but it still isnt good enough. When will it be good enough just out of interest?

[narrow meteor]

I don’t know why but I’m getting assaulted by this messed up auto aim

[ember marlin]

I think the consensus is that old tier 10 games shouldnt count towards seeding, it should instead be last 1k games
Then it would be truly great.

[maiden anvil]

Thank you for considering the impact of that term 👍!!

[forest matrix]

I am amazed how some ppl here are supporting WG in their laziness when it comes to seeding system. Guys we are not asking the moon with a weighted average over the last 1000 games. Orherwise just give to blitzstars Nobel prize of maths (yeah I know it does not exist)

[limber lintel]

1. it isn't related to cw
2. rerolls have an unfair advantage, cus my battles from 6 fricking years ago still count
3. it took ages and all it does is multiply your battles with your wr now

that's what's wrong with it, that's what needs to be resolved

[thorn shale]

I did top 3 damage in Asia in a FV215B, but I didn't send to Hall of fame but sent it to soft rescue instead, what about you? Literally a TD with 152 mm can get you that damage easier than having a Dpm decently armored heavy tank, because you'd have to risk more peeks to the enemy. You don't even average 2.7k damage in 30 day, so what's so good about you getting that damage that atleast high? Lmao.

[thorn shale]

My not reroll account has better win rate in X than many rerolls, good system

[fallow raptor]

My Un rerolled accounted has much th ebetter wn rate than many not rerolled good sustem thanks

[rare trellis]

lmaoooo it actually changed

[empty phoenix]

@maiden anvil ur op
I rate this meme 11/10

[latent olive]

so basically its no longer about 100% wr, its now about re-rolls. Just out of interest, what if a player with a good WR with their 1k T10 battles isnt a re-roll, but a new player who just happens to have skill, is it then fair to penalise them and their team? I mean what we are truly talking about here is so minor a difference in real terms, unlike 100% wr accounts.

100% wr accounts could be used by someone with no intention of actually playing the tour and as such it had a big impact. Now if some has 100% wr after 1k T10 reg battles then fair play to them I say! This is just a storm in a teacup really and from what I can tell there will be no satisfaction until WG implement something brings in total elitism and scares everyone else away from tours, surely that isnt something we want?

[limber lintel]

how is wanting a system that looks at past cw performance instead of a different gamemode that can't be compared to cw AT ALL be elitist,

all we want is a seeding that finally stops looking at randoms where it's 1 (or 2 in case you are platooning) +6 (+5 for platoon) vs 7, while tours are 7v7, where in randoms you focus on farming, in cw keeping guns alive

we don't want the seeding to be based on randoms, how is wanting that elitist?

edit: also, I always said rerolls were also an issue, I didn't see the 100% accounts as the only issue, this issue got more attention cus it's more blatant in it's way of bending the seeding in your favour

[thorn shale]

If it's so easy go raise your stats instead of chatting here it's just 1k games

[limber lintel]

where and what did I say was easy?

[latent olive]

I honestly fail to see the actual issue here. If a player has less than 1k Reg battles in either T10 or in total they will be penalised. The former unsure how WG plan to do that, but the latter with topping up to 1k with defeats. That makes a big difference wr wise.

If a player has managed to do 1k in T10 then like I said if they have a lovely wr then fair play to them really, they clearly deserve that wr maybe.

Looking at past CW experience per player is totally elitist as new players may not have such experience. In order to achieve that then the past experience needs to be by clan, not player. Now that isnt a bad thing, but clans come and go every single season and there isnt stability to make such a seeding system. If there was stability then fine, make so that seeding is based on clan performance in CW, but that wont eliminate the problem at all! For example, during Spring Season we had a new clans on EU made up of super experienced CW players. They would be unseeded and thus they would meet the top seeded clans early, which puts us back to manipulation of seeding, because all you need to do is create a new clan every season with top CW players. Hardly a resolution to the issue.

I havent seen this new system in play as yet, but from what I can tell from the initial write up is that it will bring a better and more honest seeding system to the tours. It may not be perfect, ideal and wrapped in flowery paper, but its better than what we had. I dont see how re-rolls are an issue tbf, because like I said doing 1k battles in T10 and maintaining a high wr must count for something and before everyone jumps on the 5k MM thing, this no longer exists, at least not that I can tell because I see players on EU in my games with less than 5k battles in T10 so that advantage of 'newbie mm' no longer as a big impact, other than the 100 battles against bots.

[rare trellis]

newbie mm only applies really to tier 8 and below. however NA for example doesn’t really have the population to provide that bot mm the higher tier you go. hence in most tier 9 and 10 games your actually just in the regular matchmaker

[tulip finch]

Yeah that reroll mm issue mostly applies to EU and RU

[limber lintel]

"The seeding works as followed, most clans will have a position from their previous season, say we choose the summer season, the 10 (or less, doesn’t matter) players representing the clan in the championships (lower, middle, upper) will all be assigned with a number. This number is the same as the clans final position in the championships.

Say a player from clan that participated in summer is now in a new team for autumn, he has achieved a certain position in the summer season, that we will call his clan war value, CWV for short. The average CWV of the players in the newly formed team (or team that brought in a new player but remained partly the same) will decide the teams seeding, in a Strongest-Weakest way. Lowest average is strongest.

If a player hasn’t played the last season, but he has played earlier, those results may be counted in place, if a player has never played tournaments a median/average value can be assigned. Or you take the average of the 7 best scores, so newer players can more easily integrate in better teams. This however is the more debatable part of the seeding and open for discussion."

Put this seeding in a first stage round robin, second stage double elimination, it looks at past cw performance, if you choose a good average/median value it won't be as much of an issue for new players,

It discourages 2nd teams, which in my book are a pretty unfair advantage, as well, this is one of the simplest seeding systems looking at past cw performance to implement and because of the round robin it isn't that influential if your team isn't in such a high position,

not claiming it's perfect by a longshot, but it would be better than what we have now in my book

[silk thistle]

Pp

[primal talon]

Grow up already,assault In a war game shouldnt be seen as offensive,especially if its in a name of a tournament. I dont really get your point,if you feel like that insulted you please explain me your reasoning

[dim pivot]

Dont get why people r annoyed by a name change of a tournament ngl, especially an off season tournament

[untold tinsel]

someone can’t sense sarcasm and its showing 💀

[proud holly]

🧐

[magic kraken]

Before u do anything about autumn pls fix the freaking aiming stuf, auto-aim whatever it is pls, this is horrible

[upper oar]

@primal talon they were completely trolling

i can't believe they actually changed it lmaoooo

[primal talon]

I mean,you never really know if its trolling or not in these cases,there are lots of insane people out there

[grim shadow]

I thought knopka said they spoke further with the person having an issue with it

[red vapor]

@upper oar XDDDD

[modest whale]

I believe the twister cup name should be changed. It is offensive to anyone who has experienced a twister

[green orchid]

i have a traumatic experience of getting twisted while playing twister as a child.

[upper oar]

"yeah Midseason Challenge should be changed too, its offensive to anyone who has faced a challenge in their life"

cmon

[slim blade]

Professionals Tournament is offensive to me because it implies I am not a professional

[flat goblet]

Lol

[empty phoenix]

If someone is chatting here they aren’t a snowflake

[atomic tartan]

did that actually just happen

[fluid knot]

@empty phoenix hi

[empty phoenix]

Halo rithosouar

[wet tide]

Tournament is very offending to me aswell because it says our instead of me and that a big hit for my ego..

[slim blade]

I agree, the “na” in tournament is also not very inclusive, what about the other servers?

[elder coral]

Tournasiaeucisment

[livid hare]

That would be great i agree

[rapid shard]

Quick tournaments are also offensive because they imply I don't last long

[slim blade]

well it’s true

[wet tide]

How would you know C:

[rapid shard]

Lmao

[narrow meteor]

Y’all gonna fix the auto aim stuff right, twisters gonna look like a bunch of Parkinson’s patients if you don’t

[fluid pilot]

LOL

[odd tangle]

What did they do to auto aim? I haven’t noticed anything wrong with it

[bold sierra]

What happened with auto aim

[narrow meteor]

Like half the players are struggling, for us it zooms us in but it he connection is super weak

[proud holly]

@muted ore are tournements still going to be 6 days a week?

[slim blade]

well what do you think happens after tournaments

[rapid shard]

Idk maybe i cry myself to sleep cuz we got clapped again

[slim blade]

No we, only you ;)

[novel yoke]

Please fix the auto aim or at least give us a heads up what is going on.

[novel yoke]

Same

[fallow turret]

Twister with parkinson's patients would be unironically entertaining to watch

[rapid shard]

Agree

[fluid pilot]

After whatever the heck summer season was anything is better 🤠

[muted ore]

The schedule will be announced later.

[supple hearth]

Whats up with the auto aim?

[frosty nexus]

@novel yokeplease write your question to #876806729592111144 channel

[modest whale]

and then get ignored 😌 😌 😌

[cobalt yarrow]

@frosty nexus can we get that update earlier then usual 1 month time

[thorn shale]

Can u show us like a video? Personally I’m just curious what others are experiencing because I haven’t had any issues yet but it could always happen

[rapid shard]

Well same here, many people complaining but personally i have no issues

[grim shadow]

Maybe theyve enabled the other autoaim setting somehow?

[slim blade]

nah just restart bluestacks it gets buggy sometimes

[thorn shale]

i hope WG fixes ping issues for next big tournament

[proud holly]

Will Ghost Factory be in tournament rotation? @muted ore or do we have to wait on tournament info to be announced

[thorn salmon]

Yes it will, it was already confirmed by a wg staff that it will appear in some of the tournaments. Not all but some

[proud holly]

Confirmed for professional qualifiers?

[stark hawk]

Clear enough? @proud holly

[proud holly]

That doesn’t answer whether or not it’s confirmed for professional qualifiers

Edit: Nvm nvm nvm nvm nvm nvm

[upper oar]

you're leaving out t1 players on their ipad air 3's

[thorn shale]

have fun with premium tank spam

[modest whale]

To avoid any premium tanks used in tournaments, we should make tournaments tier 1 only.

[rare trellis]

i agree! a true show of a players skill is how well they can play their cruiser 1!

[thorn shale]

Pls fix ping for autumn season

[grave raven]

ms-1 tournament when ?

[tough sentinel]

It will be MS-1 tournament?

[tepid trout]

yes

[opaque panther]

Anyone needs a guy for vi tier? Im down

[young furnace]

#tourneys-team-search @opaque panther @thorn shale

[deep prawn]

Who want tournament VIII?

[shy sun]

Random stats deciding cw wr, nice wg

[atomic tartan]

Playing 215b this update 💀

[shy sun]

Tbf camping is pretty much the only thing u can do in the 215b after 8.2 but still

[proud holly]

😐

[modest whale]

🥴

[winter swallow]

8.2 nerf and buff deluge makes sense for some tanks… but the nerfs to the fv215b and t110e5 (from a tournament and public match perspective) make zero sense… but tbh - are any of us expecting anything above an 80 IQ move from the devs that not only thought ATGMs were a good idea but also ignored feedback from players on them for a year?

The fact these nerfs aren’t worse is a small miracle and we should all be grateful they only dropped the ball slightly.

[slim blade]

bruh

[thorn shale]

fv215b nerf was a bad idea for sure, anyways

[upper oar]

E5 was well deserved, in both tournament and pubs meta

215b nerf made the least sense in terms of statistics, but the tank was still basically a souped up medium tank with few disadvantages. if they had only nerfed the E5, I’m guessing that they thought that teams and people would just switch to the 215b to fill that hulldown, DPM, high pen, quick heavy role

what WG could have done to avoid this issue was just never give special consumables to those two lines: they didn’t need them at all

[rapid shard]

Also wg says the 215b feels too much like a med, why then they dont gove it the obvious heavy perks: hp and armour. Both things the tank doesnt really have

[limber lintel]

This, but they overdid the nerf, and they shouldnt have gone for the gun, the part the tank revolves around

[odd tangle]

You're acting like it's never been that way. There will be loopholes with whatever way they decide to do seeding, the only way to get rid of the loopholes is to have random seeding which is just awful. Whatever wargaming do to tournaments there will be players here to cry about it

[thorn shale]

Yeah @shy sun build a bridge and get over it champ

[atomic tartan]

all they had to do was literally remove the hp provisions and consumables. then buff the hp from 2150 to 2400 (2544 with hp equipment, same as 50 B) and it's problem solved. you can't go med killing or play fast heavy with a tank that only goes 34 forward and 12 backward

[upper oar]

yeah pretty much

[surreal hinge]

Or we could entirely get rid of special consumables and live in a perfect utopia. But alas, utopia is only an imaginary place 😔

[atomic tartan]

instead they cripple a tank's base stats and then use special consumables as a crutch. what even is the point of the Kran hp nerf, literally just get rid of the sandbags

[limber lintel]

Thing is now you choose between the hp and crew mastery or extra engine or protective kit, it makes you lose out on provisions, thus giving a drawback for using the sandbags, only logical reason I can see

[atomic tartan]

then lets nerf every other tank as well and give them all hp provisions. choice everywhere

what a wonderful world

[limber lintel]

You said something, I tried to put myself in WG mindset and give the logical arguments they would probably use to justify those decisions, why direct this passive agressive comment to me, its so pointless and for a game as blitz ror crying out loud, 😂

[chilly hemlock]

I’d argue it’s as simple as either removing the special consumables/sandbags/etc or make them available to all tanks

The 215b is supposed to out dpm rival heavies and out hp the mediums

[modest whale]

super consumables on all tanks 🙏 🙏

[split cosmos]

pls medium meta🦶

[rocky crystal]

td meta pls

[graceful jetty]

Aggro TD meta pls

[gray pond]

IS-7 meta?

[muted ore]

Hello.
In qualifying tournaments and Championships, this map will not appear.
In the fast and coin tournaments it may appear.

[forest matrix]

Considering you already have 32k battles at t10 acc. to blitzstars why do u feel the need to do more?
The issue is not how random is it (it is the same for everyone) - it is more about how old and representative of your current skill it is

[shy sun]

Yeah that s the thing, at least 15k out of those 32k were played back in the day when I played like an animal. Now Im tryna save sth if possible, but I highly doubt it

[thorn shale]

Ok good to know

Thanks as always 😄

[proud holly]

Now for the fall season announcement

[forest matrix]

Oh yeah this sucks for sure - I don’t have same problem as I still play like a monkey 🐒 😄

[ember marlin]

I still hold to the fact that the 215b nerf was preemptive and made to let other tanks be meta instead of the 215b dominating again
So I dont have a problem with it

[steel shell]

Who came up with the maus nerf had to be high as well 😄

[chilly hemlock]

The maus nerf doesnt mean much

It still has plenty of hp and if you’re targets are more than 200m away you’re not using your maus well

[steel shell]

The gun sucked even before i see no point of nerfing it

[chilly hemlock]

You don’t use a maus for its gun lol. Again. If accuracy is a consistent problem, you’re too far away

[burnt glacier]

Problem that he will be useless vs armour heavys face 2 face with low penetration and now with trash gun dispersion, when you have E100 that have 2915 HPs(with adding HPs), more DPM and ability to use HE more effective than Maus's gold for example
So I agree with Daniel, no point of nerfing.

[chilly hemlock]

Do you remember that WG balances tanks off of random battles and not what tournament players think? There’s literally a channel dedicated to it

[burnt glacier]

Yes ofc. Adding to Maus I don't understand why WG nerfed FV215b cause from normal tank it became completely garbage
How focusing not random battles (not on tournament) cancelled my argument...

[chilly hemlock]

Seems like you mean to post in #tank-balance-discussion and not here

[burnt glacier]

No worries just wanted add to Daniel's comment some words

[chilly hemlock]

The maus still serves the same exact role it always did for comp. the 215b nerf almost means nothing to comp because they’re rarely used in the first place (although I do not agree with it). Hopefully this means more diversity and more interesting line ups and matches

[inland condor]

in trainings it resulted in yohspam. we used about 5 yohs in every map since the nerfs

[chilly hemlock]

And that may work for you and your team but others may have completely different ideas

[inland condor]

hopefully. i mean its only tested so who knows where it will go

[scarlet juniper]

@muted ore Will Canyon, Yamato Harbor and Himmel be in fall season qualifying tournament? As well as championship.

[muted ore]

@scarlet juniper Hi. No, these maps will not be in the qualifiers and Championships.

[scarlet juniper]

Thanks for your reply. Have a great day

[proud holly]

Watch them switch in mines, falls creek, and deadrail

[slim socket]

Copperfield 🙏

[split cosmos]

👀

[limber musk]

Hi

[empty phoenix]

Will Ghost Factory be in fall tournaments

[red vapor]

scroll up

[elder coral]

bruh i know you can read better than that

[silk thistle]

@muted ore Mirage tier 1 tournaments when 👀

[tardy bay]

Dont ping the Wargaming staff please.

[elder coral]

if we ping them enough and keep them too busy, maybe they will forget that they promised not to nerf premium and collector vehicles

[empty phoenix]

Tough shi

[silk thistle]

@empty phoenix is too busy reading 277353

[empty phoenix]

It was a meme on a meme page ape

[silk thistle]

🐒🐒

[sly axle]

ik off topic but does the speed boost nerf count as a prem nerf since it is on the annihilator? 💩

[rocky crystal]

Sheesh

[chilly hemlock]

@muted ore perhaps you could check over recently named teams for obvious racial slurs please and thank you

[main belfry]

@muted ore i have a screenshot saved of that, i can dm it to you if needed.

[thorn shale]

🙏 ty

[carmine solstice]

Have approximate or exact dates for autumn season been given officially yet? Does anyone have that info?

[candid lance]

Mid September

[carmine solstice]

Thanks lego city

[split cosmos]

hey

[frosty nexus]

@empty phoenixGhost factory we will added to Coins tournaments but this map will not be playing at qualifiers

[leaden belfry]

Will it be in the top 8-battles or final stages though? Asking because other maps Sirius excluded he specifically names both Qualifiers and Championships, so just want to make sure

[muted ore]

All announcements will come later.

[muted ore]

@main belfry If you see a team whose name violates the game rules, you can report it to us or to the Player Support Centre.

[muted ore]

Hey. We have no plans to include this map in the major tournaments of the Autumn season (especially the final tournaments).

[leaden belfry]

thank you! =)

[main belfry]

Okay, thx.

[limber lintel]

Ty 🙏

[ember marlin]

Remember 2019? I think wg is trying to prevent a run back of that meta
Sure
I just think if 215b doesnt get nerfed teams just hit the rewind button and just replace e5 with 215b

[chilly hemlock]

I mean it’s been very heavy dominant on na since 2018 if not 2017

[limber lintel]

hmm, it would still be a clip/Alpha meta, but the E5 would get replaced with the 215b surely, the nerf therefore was sort of justified, but it's just way too hard of a nerf

[ember marlin]

Sure I'm not gonna disagree that is was overly harsh but I think wg wanted to make sure the 215b wasnt meta ever again

[hardy cloud]

Honestly all they had to do was remove the special consumables tbh, if they did that it’d still have that spectacular gun but not be a total med killer

[carmine solstice]

Nice final stage lmao. Wouldn’t 3-3 be a more logical split than 4-2? Pepega

[frosty nexus]

📢
Dear players,
We are still in progress of renewing tournament avatars and today we would like to introduce you new apperance of Hardcore Fan Avatar. This avatar is distributing for watching tournament broadcasts.
You have a chance to receive it during upcoming seasons. The avatar is active on the account for 90 days.

Become an eSports fan and stand out!

[ember marlin]

Looks pretty cool
Improvement over last avatar

[chilly hemlock]

Amazing a certain name was missed…

[thorn shale]

Nice avatar it looks very cool. Why not permanent tho?

[carmine solstice]

?

[chilly hemlock]

I’ll tell you when you’re older

[carmine solstice]

Ok boomer

[thorn shale]

It’s big brain time

[frosty nexus]

@thorn shaleto hold the status of eSports fan the player should watch broadcasts of tournaments regularly

[thorn shale]

Okey , ty

[chilly hemlock]

Look at the names in the first bracket closely…

@frosty nexus it’s pretty clear there’s a lot of inappropriate names for tournament teams lately. Is there a way to better crack down on that?

[pliant peak]

So you replace this avatar?

[carmine solstice]

zzzzz

[frosty nexus]

Yes

But avatar I'm talking about has a lifetime for 90 days

[silk thistle]

I wish those avatars could be exchanged for splinters ngl

[graceful jetty]

I think he’s talking about our team name

[carmine solstice]

I’m not sure what he’s referring to then. 2 in the pink just refers to a recent time when I bought two shirts and I said “I’ll buy two in the pink”. When I said that, I decided it would make a good team name for us. I reject any suggestion that the team name has any other subtext or ulterior motive

[fallow turret]

Pretty sure it's the name at the bottom he's referring to .-.

[chilly hemlock]

Top and bottom. Top is far worse

[covert flax]

Personally the names make me laugh 😂😂😂😂

[gilded sentinel]

Search NA registered teams and you will see the first example for today’s Midseason tournament

[signal depot]

can we crack down on turney team names?

[scenic thorn]

😶‍🌫️

[versed prairie]

37% wr tho

[gray pond]

Idk what does that mean, anyone know?

[tardy bay]

Its a racist slur for black people

[tulip finch]

Every day you learn smth new

[inland condor]

always these words of the younger generation

[tardy bay]

Its never okay to say it.

[spark pumice]

what?

[tardy bay]

You made a fake account congrats 🎉

[upper oar]

ill leave the picture up but there's no point in repeating the name

[rare trellis]

gamers 😅

[elder coral]

honestly, i think you should ban @empty phoenix for that offense lol

[proud holly]

?ban

[elder coral]

this man is cruisin for a bruisin lol

[empty phoenix]

Sadge

[thorn shale]

does anyone know when they will fix the ghost tournament room glitch? notifications are the worst

[proud holly]

They are
“Working to fix it”

[muted ore]

@signal depot This team has been renamed, thank you.

[frosty nexus]

📢 @here
Players and eSports-mans!

We are ready to share preliminary information about upcoming and the key tournament season – Autumn season 2021!
Literally that season will determine the teams to present their region on regional online championship – Blitz Cup 2021.
Autumn season 2021 starts a little bit later this year – from September 13th and lasts until the end of November. All seasonal activities will be distributed between months, and now let’s have a look on the dates of the most important activities.

1. Qualifying tournaments “Prove your skill”. 4 tournaments at all but each of them will be held in 3 stages (Double Elimination + Double Elimination + Single Elimination). Seeding principle: “Strongest – Weakest”. Tournament 1 – September 13, 14 and 16, tournament 2 – September 17, 18 and 19, tournament 3 – September 20, 21 and 22, tournament 4 – September 24, 25 and 26. Finally TOP-8 teams advance to Professional tournament to fight against each other for the chance to become a part of Blitz Cup tournament of their region.

2. Professional tournament. Format: Round Robin + Round Robin systems (2 circles). The tournament will take place between clans which won from 1 to 8 places in the clan Hall of Fame. Dates: September 30th, October 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7.

3. Challengers tournament. Format: Double Elimination + Double Elimination.The tournament will take place between clans which won from 9 to 16 places in the clan Hall of Fame. Dates: September 30, October 1, 2, and 3.

4. Lower echelon championship. Format: Single Elimination + Double Elimination. The tournament will take place between clans which won from 17 to 32 places in the clan Hall of Fame. Dates: September 30, October 1, 2 and 3.
   “Season coins” tournaments start at October and last until the end of November. Besides this, “Best two” tournaments are back in November.

That’s not all surprises and pleasant activities of the upcoming season. Keep watching our news to know more about the prize fund and other interesting details of the season!

[sharp crane]

Wow.

[thorn shale]

👍

[pale plinth]

nice

[thorn shale]

nice

[spring umbra]

Cool, but im not joining

[deep flame]

Too long

[charred veldt]

thnaks~

[hollow patio]

wow

[mental heart]

pog

[limpid fossil]

#BringBackATGM&Rolling

[cloud cedar]

bruh

[bronze yarrow]

k

[glad prism]

hmmm

[royal raven]

Yes

[keen cypress]

no

[leaden belfry]

8 tournament days in a row o_o wut?

[lean crag]

No

[warm dust]

will it be only online again

[vestal bridge]

👀

[untold prairie]

Yo time to spam keyssss

[leaden belfry]

#tourneys-team-search

[quick egret]

Nah, I'm out since my Indonesian Internet is just sucked now

But those keys maybe useful in the future :))

[frosty nexus]

@warm dustyes, it will be online

[fallow turret]

Tournaments for 8 days straight that's a bit ridiculous

Don't do drugs

[upbeat sentinel]

indihome packet moment
tarik ubur ubur ubur

[leaden belfry]

@fallow turret edit that, pls

[clear crypt]

laggy moment lol
xd same (sama)

[thorn shale]

more tournaments i wont participate in because i dont do comp play <o/

[leaden belfry]

@frosty nexus how many matches will there be per day, if it's 8 days in a row?

and is finals included in those 8 days?

[vital obsidian]

What happend to the suggestion to have breaks in between? From few breaks to zero breaks 🙄

[leaden belfry]

or is this only the round robins?

[frosty nexus]

@leaden belfrythe detailed regulations we are going to share a bit later 🙂

[carmine solstice]

I think we had like 10 straight last season so slight improvement lmao

Round robin lesgooooo. 2 circles means what? Face each team twice?

[leaden belfry]

yes

[lean warren]

hi

[frosty nexus]

@leaden belfryif you're talking about Professional tourney so there will be Round Robins in 2 circles

[frosty nexus]

yeap

[leaden belfry]

so those 8 straight days of matches is only the Round Robins? Final stages will be in November?

[frosty nexus]

@leaden belfryyes. Final stage is Blitz Cup (between 4 best teams from Professional tourney)

[leaden belfry]

oki, thank you for clarifying

[stoic badger]

wow

[leaden belfry]

but damn if that isn't way way way too much in too short a time to be playing.. no breaks whatsoever

[plush tartan]

Are there gonna be autumn season lockboxes like last year?

[leaden belfry]

and it'll be impossible to stream all three servers with this schedule, tbh

[rapid pumice]

🧙‍♂️

[frosty nexus]

@leaden belfryyou're welcome 🙂

[spring gale]

holy this is like summer season all over again with how many days per week we have to play

[timid glen]

lmao

[gleaming schooner]

Players after the Summer Season: 6 days of playing in a row is too much, nice schedule WG
WG: hehe what about 8 days?

[jovial flame]

This is the 2nd ping now, why?

[frosty nexus]

@plush tartanmechanics of rewards for watching will be different from the previous year

[fallow turret]

So we have 8 days straight of tourneys and play two teams each day in probably bo5 format ._.

[novel yoke]

😐

[frosty nexus]

@gleaming schoonerand how do you think it should be? To become a PRO by playing only 1 day? Noooope 🙂

[thorn shale]

Are you guys joking or what? 12 consecutive days for this season? Tell me this is a joke

[slender harness]

@frosty nexus will this double round robin be followed by a top4 double elimination format for champions like previous years?

[slim blade]

ok so there’s 17 days of tournament stuff but you say it goes on for an additional 2 months

[leaden belfry]

there's basically no matches between October 8th and whenever the finals of that specific server are, assuming they follow the same format as last year

[frosty nexus]

@slender harnessRound Robin in 2 circles is the preliminary stage to determine 4 best teams which will be fighting against each other in Double elimination format during Blitz Cup

[plush tartan]

Will there be any tank rewards for watching?

[gray pond]

another great work by wg

[winged shell]

i need someone for torny

[balmy cobalt]

@frosty nexus how many games i must do with the team to get the ticket for the challenger or Lower echelon for example?

[gleaming schooner]

Maybe like the other tours before the Summer Season? There were 4 days of playing a week, and you could still become a PRO

[upper oar]

honestly it looks like WG took that comment saying "professionals have to prove that they're able to win at all times" way too seriously. 8 straight days is just way too long. i can't imagine that's going to work very well for the streamers, let alone the hundreds of players

[slender harness]

asia has so few teams we would probably skip day1 of each PYS hopefully

[fast hare]

BananaFish#1008 was banned

[dim pivot]

8 consecutive days and then theres probably a 1 month break till the actual blitz cup like it was last time

Makes sense

[fallow turret]

Should give us like 20 roster spots so that way people can actually get a day off.

[thorn shale]

This is such a joke and Wargaming wonders why this channel blows up every time something is said

[vital obsidian]

It is not so many days in a row. 15.9 is free 😁

[upbeat iris]

Analogy: To become an employee of a company and have a weekend off? That’s ridiculous, an employee should work blocks of 2 full weeks to show their commitment to their company. ~ your argument makes 0 sense..

Tell me which esports forces their players to play for that long without breaks? Why can’t it be 4-5 days a week max?

[slim blade]

I thought they said that tournaments will be more split up lmao

[frosty nexus]

@plush tartandetails - later 😉

@balmy cobaltyour clan should advance to one of the echelons after qualifiers: Upper, Middle or Lower

[plush tartan]

😅

[royal cradle]

Spitting facts

[balmy cobalt]

OK

[frosty nexus]

@gleaming schoonerSummer season is different from the key season of the year - Autumn. Autumn season based on determine the best teams on the each regions for the finals with a huge prize fund

[thorn shale]

So you make a dumb schedule for the season to find out who’s the “best”? Yeah okay

[frosty nexus]

@upbeat irisprofessional players are training day by day. If you have no any such amount of time and youre not ready to make an effort - that's ok, but it means that you're not be able to become a part of Blitz Cup

[leaden belfry]

tbf, the amount of tournament days this season means that people have to quit their jobs if they also want to train for said matches

unless they can easily take a month + off of work

not to mention school and studies

which doesn't allow taking time off to begin with

or homework

[frosty nexus]

@leaden belfryall matches take place on the evening, after the job and other activities. Anyway time management is an important thing which should help.

[gleaming schooner]

I think putting this many days of playing in a row will not show who the real champion is, but who has the most time. People also have jobs, school, life, even the PROs. I guess we will see so many teams not playing with their strongest roster because of this schedule. And how is that supposed to show a real champion?

[slim blade]

having to shuffle your life up for 8 days in a row is not called being a pro

[frosty nexus]

@gleaming schoonerplay 2 hours per day in a tournaments to have a chance to win a real money doesn't look like a highest effort 🙂

[royal cradle]

WG thinks being PRO makes u be able to live from the prize money of their tournaments 😂🤦🏻‍♂️ so you don't need an actual job anymore. Also WG never heard of shift systems where people go to work in the evening etc. Idk who is making their plans but said person or persons are living outside of reality

[leaden belfry]

the matches, yes, but people with jobs and/or school or studies have more to do than actually be at work and after work play games

that's the point

[thorn shale]

You can’t not be serious… surely you guys aren’t that dense

[sweet flax]

As said in Summer season. Schedules that are very intensive with little to no breaks a week, don't focus on determining who is better. It shows who is actually prepared to put their evening lives on hold for X amount of days STRAIGHT.
This system just simply does not work. Teams get burnt out after a regular season, so creating seasons with such intensive schedules will more likely result in more teams dropping out mid season, or not sign up at all.

These no-life schedules do not promote competitive play. They promote the notion that playing for days on end without a meaningful break is how a high-end team result should be aqquired. Which is completely wrong

[frosty nexus]

@leaden belfryso how do they play games in this case? If it's impossible for them to spend 2 hours per day for playing. To play in the random battles - that's ok to spend 2 hours or more. To play in tournaments for the chance to win money it becomes drama. So strange 🙂

[fallow turret]

The prize money is 1/100th of minimum wage anywhere if you account for trainings and scrims and the actual tournaments. You can't justify the time spent by the prize money that's offered that on top of that is only significant for the top 2 teams out of however many who put in the same time and effort

[vital obsidian]

It would be great if Wg could consider one free day after 3 days of tour...

[upbeat iris]

So what you are asking of players is that they play daily for 3 hours, next to their jobs/studies for them to be considered PRO?

Since you didn’t answer me before, I’ll ask you again: “which other esports forces players to play this often?”

I’ll maybe give a hint. A professional player (note this was his ONLY job, no school or other job to spend time on) for TSM (a major org) said that 3-4 game days a week is perfect. Allows for 2-3 scrim days and a day of. He was part of a bigger esports scene than blitz is, with actual orgs who pay players wages to compete. How can you justify an even busier schedule for unpaid players?

[gleaming schooner]

The thing is: you can play random battles whenever you want, there is no pressure like with tournaments, there is no exact hour schedule

If for you such no lifing if worth those prizes, then XD

[gray pond]

LMAO
Clearly you are just making excuse, this schedule is the worst thing we have ever seen. You put all of them in only 2 weeks. Dont you think about streamers and players? This had to be flexible ...

[upper oar]

the difference is that i can play 3 battles in the morning, 7 battles in the afternoon, 13 battles at night. i can log 2-3 hours a day in Blitz, spread out throughout the day

there is no flexible option for tournaments. its either show up, or disappoint your team

[grave raven]

@frosty nexus are you going to work 8 straight days to help with tournaments going smoothly without any problems ? or you just leave your job and go party for the weekend ?

[slim blade]

you do realise 99% of these people stand 0 chance of actually earning real money from this. they do it for fun. but locking that behind an 8 day marathon removes the “fun” factor from it lol
you’re saying that it goes from mid September to end of October. that’s 2.5 months of time you have but you crammed them all into 17 days. and then you wait a month for the finals which only a select group of players attend? for the vast player base the action is over in 3 weeks.

[leaden belfry]

it's way more than just two hours. You have to get ready, check your system/voice, etc. If there's training involved, you need more time for that too. Not to mention other commitments. A few days in a week, this would be fine. But you're asking people 12 days out of 14 days at first, and then to play 8 days in a row almost right after

it isn't just 2 hours. It's more than two hours, for people who have school/work on top of those two hours, and other commitments as well

[royal cradle]

Some people also didn't touch randoms but just play ClanWars? I mean come on think about your own arguments before you write something. Strange🙂.

[leaden belfry]

it's nothing to do with the prize fund involved

it's to do with the complete lack of understanding that people have more to do in the day than just play the game

[calm atlas]

What’s prize pool 🤭

[balmy cobalt]

i would know the prize pool if i am going to make 8 tournaments in a row (always if i will be still alive)

[upper oar]

i definitely understand WG's perspective in this, that they want people to play tournaments because they can be enjoyable, and to allow for more content for people to watch from streams. that's definitely understandable. but, the schedule is just too rigid to work for most people

[fallow turret]

Finna need to get my team sponsored by GFUEL and ADIDAS so that way everyone can dedicate their lives to winning fall szn

[frosty nexus]

That's ok. If you can't afford to participate in the qualifiers - that's ok.
But Autumn season is the key season at all. All the players should bring all their skill and effort to become a PRO. If they don't then the other team will do this who understand how important it is for them 🙂

That's the question of simple time management and planning your own resources. Talking about flexibility, this is not the situation when the system should be changed for your comfort. That's the situation when every player should estimate his resources and make a decision does he able to participate or not.

Finally, that's all I have to say about it.

[novel yoke]

There should be breaks in between at least, or be on days that are convenient. @frosty nexus once again, this is too many days in a row. 2 continuous hours of play+ practice scrims and training ends up adding to 3 hours a day for 14 days on top of our other responsibilities. Listen please

[upper oar]

@thorn shale that's just gonna stoke unnecessary flames. post it in #blitz-memes if you really want to

its not really about comfort, im working 40 hours a week rn at different times and that is not comfortable

[sweet flax]

And to add to this intensive schedule, you have to factor in teams doing training outside of tournament days to further improve their skills, but also learn the ever changing and evolving meta. Playing minimum 6 days a week prevents such training and learn as everyone is too tired to do any more playing.
Feast in spring season did not do any training during the season as the heavy schedule was too much for us, and as a result we suffered once reaching top 4 as we did not do enough training.
4 days a week of tournaments is ideal as it allows 1 or possibly 2 days of training, which almost always goes for an hour, being the right length of time where it would not burn out our players to the extent of 6 day weeks playing for 2-3 hours on end, starting from 9 or 10pm in most countries.
You cannot expect such an intensive schedule to work effectively if you factor in external team trainings and the personal lives of the players. A minimum of 2 days break a week is extremely important as it allows us, the players, to either choose to train, or take a break and reset, before playing the next tournament giving it our all.

[toxic bridge]

hello @frosty nexus, I have a short question, how many qualification tournaments does a player have to play at least in order to be able to participate in the next stage?

damn all 4

[frosty nexus]

@toxic bridge4 qualifying tournaments

[upbeat iris]

Can I ask you to manage your schedule to stream every qualifier of just 1 region? This way you show us you commitment to organize high quality, streamed tournaments! Would you be down for that?

[warped patrol]

ok

[frosty nexus]

@royal cradledo you need the reason? So ask about the reason 🙂
We need a time to prepare everything before Blitz Cup. We should paint avatars, overlays for the stream, collect information from players, check them for rules violation before Blitz Cup, and prepare eve-ry-thing before start of November. So we are really short in time to make it.
We did a short pause between seasons for players to have some rest, that's why the next season starting a bit later than previous.
For players Blitz Cup looks like: we should come and play. For us it's different. As soon as we may know all teams and request information from them we can start the process of active preparation. Please be respectful for that. Major events are preparing during months, especially Autumn season and Blitz Cup.
It takes for players a few days to play 2 hours per day. For us it takes months to prepare everything day by day. That's not so easy as you may think 🙂

[slim blade]

genuine question. how many people are in Wargaming’s esports department?
..

[leaden belfry]

2

[shadow topaz]

Respect

[gleaming schooner]

Yes, but there is a difference between playing 2 hours whenever you want, and playing 2 hours when someone tells you to. And come on, saying that you work hard to prepare the season? That's your job, isn't it? You are getting paid for that I guess.

[royal cradle]

I do think it really helps to have someone active at playing the game working with WG alongside so there will be more mutual understanding of what the community wants and what WG can offer rn every season always had flaws to it. I think it'd be a lot different if there's someone with a player's perspective.

[leaden belfry]

but it's the same for players. I keep trying to make you understand that it's not just two hours a day that they have to play. Like with you, there's a lot more involved

and for you, it's your actual job

for them, it's stuff they have to fit around their jobs or studies

Do you really think that Pro players just log on to play the actual matches and do nothing else to prepare?

and you're asking that commitment for 12 days out of 14 days at first, and then 8 days straight

you don't see the problem with that?

[vital obsidian]

Maybe prize pool will be neverseen huge 😁

[thorn shale]

I just can’t wait, for them to release the 60TP in the month break, so yet again the meta changes forcing the teams to re do strats before the Blitz Cup starts

[balmy cobalt]

i would know it too

Get Pro Avatar = 1 week of work

[thorn shale]

If you have TIME to play tournament play, if you don’t have TIME to play, don’t play. If you want money, WORK HARD to earn it. NOBODY FORCES you to play.

[gleaming schooner]

Yes, especially that they have implemented those new avatars😆

[slim blade]

how to justify a dead esports scene

[shadow topaz]

Easy. Some people cannot understand it...

[royal cradle]

Also you it's your job to work on that. Idk how many hours you work in a week but let's say you work 40-50hours a week and then you compare your job and how much time u put into a game with someone who has a job but plays blitz in their free time. So let's say a PRO plays 3h/day that adds 21hours onto your normal schedule. That's 71hours in a week. Then normally a person sleeps 6-8hours thats another 50hours on top meaning you're at 120hours/week. A week has 168hours. 48 hours you've got sparetime on what ever you want. But what if the person then has a family to take care off or not? You're selling Blitz as a game for everyone in advertisements but it's actually for people who have more spare time than a normal person has.

[frosty nexus]

@leaden belfryonce again, if we will make qualifying stage longer - Blitz Cup will be moved on another dates or even the month. You're asking of respect to players time. But we would like to ask to be respectful for organisers and their working processes too. We're doing this for players. For participants and watchers. One month per year to play a little bit more than during the others doesn't look like a high problem. Especially for the good prize fund at the end of Blitz Cup.
If any players can't afford to participate - that's his decision.

[serene crystal]

The argument that to become a ‘PRO’ u have to be willing to put the time is just weird. Last time I checked no one in this game is earning a salary from blitz. Even professional sportsmen aren’t playing competitive games every day, other days are reserved for practicing or whatever else.

[main belfry]

that wording is not really good, it makes it seem like you Guys at Wargaming dont aknowledge the effort and time people put into the game and into the tournaments. And Yes, that might be a surprise for you but people do have Jobs and not everyone can spend 2h a day 8 days in a row, when the reward per head is actually less then minimal wage in some countries in comparison to the effort put it. But that is just my opinion.

[leaden belfry]

There's only like 4 teams that will get that prize fund, per server, unless things are different this time. Everyone else has to make the same commitment for just in game prizes, most of which generally aren't that amazing

[fallow turret]

Stop trying to justify the prize money as worthy of the time commitment when even the 1st place prize isn't even close to worthy and not to mention the teams that don't achieve that

[balmy cobalt]

There is no one able to play all 8 games in a row... too much stuff to pay attention outside of the game...
If u can do that, doesnt mean that everyone CAN DO THAT.

[frosty nexus]

@royal cradleI'm working, I have a family, I also studying at my free time and playing games at least 5 days per week. Why the other person or the organiser of any event should plan my time besides me? That's my own responsibility. Before the every event I'm thinking about do I have resources to participate or not. It's not possible to be successful in all areas of life. So if your priority is the relax after the working day and take your time with family - okay. Just skip activities which are conflict with yours.

[thorn shale]

Wargaming really showing their lack of respect and understanding towards players

[toxic bridge]

so only the teams that are good enough to fight for top 4 will actually play for most other teams it wont be worth it.

[royal cradle]

And that's where I think it'd be quite handy having someone actively playing the game working for WG aswell so you actually know the struggles. There's no mutual understanding of the problems your side has and our side has.

[leaden belfry]

pretty much

[thorn shale]

Is there anywhere a list of prizes? @frosty nexus If it’s a huge price pool it’s fair to play a lot for that imo

[vital obsidian]

Do the player actually need play all games or is it enough acco is in a team, but not played

[frosty nexus]

@thorn shalein your case respect looks like changing our events for each individual. It's impossible. In the any game.

@vital obsidianreserve players will be allowed in qualifiers. Up to 3 reserve players.

[leaden belfry]

is it changing your events for each individual if so far -no one- has agreed or been positive about what WG has announced, date wise?

this isn't a singular player saying this is too much

[mellow hawk]

Yes this means for so many teams it won't be worthwhile to play, and already Asia struggles to have a decent number of teams participating, having such a schedule without much reward for mid-level teams is just gonna deter them from playing. I'd expect Asia to be even more dead than normal this season I guess.

[thorn shale]

The time has come execute order 66

[upper oar]

i still am not seeing why ~half of the qualifying matches can't just be cancelled. lets say in a perfect world, everyone could commit to the schedule, which is not going to happen. but if it were, the best teams are not going to need all of those matches just to keep their standings. they're going to either be winning matches or losing them. there's no in between

[leaden belfry]

and that'll be the same for the other servers imo

[gray pond]

Just play 2 hours, what a joke

[shadow topaz]

Amaunet is not playing any season, tournaments but she cries the most. Wtf

[split cosmos]

WG and users, although it's an irreplaceable schedule, I still respect you for trying so hard😢

[thorn shale]

Are you joking or what?

[royal cradle]

I mean after all it's you guys who want the esports scene to grow in Blitz or am I wrong? And if your schedule conflicts with the schedule of the majority of the players how is it going to be growing? I only see frustrated players leaving based on that. I'd like to see that WG actually starts working hand in hand with their community. Ofc some are immature etc. but I'll just mention rolling as one person who's put in a lot of effort to help you guys improve your game yet you guys broke up because there's been mistakes made.

[fallow turret]

Amaunet is saying what all the rest of us are trying to say

[serene crystal]

Doesn’t matter whether amaunet is playing or not, her concerns are the same concerns it seems the majority of the community have.

[balmy cobalt]

U can play counter strike an become a millionair
U play blitz and win 165 dollars (for every player) for the 1st place 🤣

[leaden belfry]

amazingly enough, I can care about how WG treats players even if it doesn't affect me directly

[fathom tiger]

Is the top4 stage being separated from top4 or is it all gonna be done in those 8 days?

[thorn shale]

@leaden belfry How much prize do you want??? 1 MILLION $$$??

What is the prize guys 😂 any infos?

[main belfry]

the biggest problem with this is not the schedule itself it feels like. That would be pretty easily changable i suppose. But the problem behind is what is the actual problem. The lack of acknowledgement from WG for their players, the people that pour hours of hours into trainings, tons of money into tanks and make the game what it is. To say its not "that hard" to spend 2h a day for your game is like telling a homeless person to just buy a house. Its a disrespectful answer not even trying to answer seriously. And then again - justifying the bad ingame rewards and the small compensation that only the best teams get, while 80% if the participating teams wont get anything - doesnt seem right to me at all

[leaden belfry]

what are you even on about?

[thorn shale]

If we have to play this much. Wg could you pls give rewards more fast i need my money fast i have kids to feed pls

[thorn salmon]

Only a profile background for u again kekw

[upper oar]

@thorn shale @shadow topaz are you two excited to play tournaments for 10 days in a row with no breaks?

[thorn shale]

💪 💪 💪

[mellow hawk]

^ This tbh. I only see a schedule like this making less teams want to play tournaments, making the tour scene more and more dead.

[shadow topaz]

I'm playing every season for three years so yes. Even if we dont have tournament in on day we play training

[stark pewter]

ping

[gray pond]

pong

[upbeat iris]

Ok so streamers/ players don’t have to manage their streams/strats beforehand. They don’t need to tweak details or arrange certain things for an improvement in streams or strats their quality? No, according to you they only need to play/stream 2 hours a day and be done with it? We know how much effort you, at WG, out into this. But at the same time you don’t respect (and realize at all) how much time goes into CW and streaming at all.

So It is you who also has to be respectful for what the players have to do. The majority of played here are grateful for the comp scene you are giving us, and all this complaining is the result of the community knowing how much better it can be if you just listen and respect our opinions. This is NOT complaining by little kids, but sincere attempts at improving the Cw scene by adults. The playerbase just can’t grasp how difficult it is to realize that the opinion of the community matters.

[balmy cobalt]

🤕

Next season will be 20 days in a row to get the pro avatar, and i will be able to count how many jobless there are in this game

[thorn shale]

@upper oar Ho ask you to play tournament 10 days in a row if you dont have theTIME????

[upper oar]

are you saying that you have the time for that?

[thorn shale]

They are jobless

This aged like milk…

[upper oar]

@shadow topaz how many hours do you usually log per week, in a normal Autumn season? counting training, tournament matches, strat making, etc

[thorn shale]

Looks like someone has too much free time

[shadow topaz]

Its only 2 hours or less on evening xd Sometimes a half hour on tactic before maches.

[analog osprey]

@frosty nexus hello do you have a calendar with all the days we play?

[thorn shale]

@upper oar If I want, I have time to play, and I work 10 hours. In this game there are other things MORE IMPORTANT to change than the duration of the tournament.

[sonic patio]

ok but what is in it for non top 8 teams , now there are even gonna be less qualifying teams (for smaller servers)

[main belfry]

maybe thats why you never made it to top 1. EG-, RA1D etc put a lot more effort into Training from what i have seen. And i dont mean that in a disrespectful way. But training is the key to functionality. Its where the top 1% players find their gap from each other.

[royal cradle]

@analog osprey

[upper oar]

honestly, i don't even care if they can make it or not. if they can, that's great for them. but its completely unreasonable to expect hundreds of other people to have the same schedule as them

[balmy cobalt]

Come on guys, get fired and play wg tournaments

[upper oar]

like i could care less if they don't have jobs or school full-time to go to. it doesn't really matter at all, because other people have that going on

the majority of people have that going on

[limber lintel]

Also why is the season starting later, wouldve been resolved I think by just starting a week, or a bit more, earlier, to spread out the days, 😂, solution is that easy

[analog osprey]

I meant like this

[thorn shale]

Bold of you to assume Wargaming can think past caveman ideas

@analog osprey there is not this one for moment

[hardy robin]

Tour schedules degrading in accordance with literally every other aspect of the game

[warped patrol]

bruh

[graceful jetty]

This was made by @slender harness for clan wars Asia

[quick mulch]

@hardy robin 🐀

[frosty nexus]

@analog ospreysorry but I haven't. If you have any questions feel free to ask 🙂

[thin ruin]

i was pinged??
was it a troll?

[thorn shale]

Finally ribblestripe comes in clutch to give us something nice in announcements

we need 1 more people for tournament tier 8

[balmy cobalt]

#tourneys-team-search

[latent olive]

oooof talk about hardcore tour!

[toxic bridge]

Fugit 🥰

[frosty nexus]

@upper oarliterally we are talking about the short period in a year. Have a look: players needs to play 4 qualifiers. It's 12 days at all. Some of players will already stop their progress during this stage. After this there are 3 ways: Pro, Challenger and Lower echelon. Lower lasts for 3 days, Challenger - for 4 days, Pro - 8 days. Each day the team should be playing maximum 2 hours, but all we already know that the matches last less time. And the last day it takes for about an hour. And we are talking not about thousands of players, it's only about 8 teams per region which are registered and ready to face this challenge.

[thorn shale]

nah

[primal talon]

As long as we dont have to play every day im ok with that

[main belfry]

are you completely neglecting the time that people spend before each tourney? Training, going through Tactics. For Streamers: Setting up their streams, collecting Info about the Teams etc.

@primal talon You can see the dates in the announcement in here earlier, you will have to play quite a few days in a row. I think it was 8.

[novel yoke]

See that’s where you messed up :)

[thorn shale]

@latent olive daddy Fugit, please help us, we can’t take this kind of neglect

[toxic lintel]

when does the top 4 stage occur? is it right after the round robin? @frosty nexus

[hardy robin]

It's still laughable that you think that 12 days in a row and then the championships after an entire month is an okay schedule. Not only do players have to play in tournaments, they spend hours preparing each week, especially the top teams... this isn't their job or anything this is an extra commitment for them. Plus servers like Asia barely have 25 teams participating in seasons ever (LEC barely happened in summer season), I'd be surprised to see many teams committing to the full schedule. Way to hammer tour participation numbers

[latent olive]

Dont get me wrong I love streaming the tours and its not like we now have a lack of streamers. It will be very difficult to stream more than 1 server I think, with it being so full on, but hey from a personal side I dont mind such things.

Nevertheless, it looks like it can be draining on the clans and with only 4 going into the BlitzCup the prizes will need to be pretty special to entice some of the lower tiered clans to play because it is quite a schedule really. I just hope it doesnt put some clans off, because we need the lower order clans to make the tours interesting, exciting and competitive really

[leaden belfry]

@analog osprey

[thorn shale]

Error

FORZA

[thorn shale]

Oh well this is Spain without the S

Actually its not much time compared to summer and spring i think

[sullen panther]

like if being a top 8 team only requires the 2 hours per day to play tournaments

edit: if the players who actually make up the top 8 of a server are giving you feedback, those same players who have won Blitz Cup and have shown they have what it takes to be the very best, maybe listen to their feedback WG

[limber lintel]

We dont care about the period, we care about the intensity of said period, thats what you are failing to understand atm, just looks at the first few weeks days of september, just put some tournament days there and your intensity issue is sorted, like it makes 0 sense to start the season later, 😂

[main belfry]

Like wg is simply pretending, that trainings and preparations doesnt exist

[thorn shale]

Wargaming legit thinks tournaments are just simply randoms making a team and pressing register

[latent olive]

I eventually got that 🤣

[thorn shale]

Guys this schedule is fine if we compare it to the one we had in summer season. So nice job WG, i hope you give good prizes tho. Thanks for your work

Like everyone complained about summer season schedule, now they do it shorter and u guys keep complaining. U guys think top 8 can be made in 1 qualifiers week?? Come on

@limber lintel ye u are right about that

[limber lintel]

Like i said, for most people it isnt about the length of the season or total amount of dates to play, its about how dense they are following on each other, theres no reason the first weeks od september couldnt have been used to spread out the days more to make it more pleasant to play, thars the main frustration here, not the amount of days

[novel yoke]

What do you mean the schedule is fine compared to summer? It looks the same to me

[frosty nexus]

@main belfrythat's the part of preparation. And every team do that.
@hardy robinwe did schedule like that before and teams were participating. We have a real reasons which I described above why this time we're doing like that. Please don't be selfish and respect our efforts too. We are doing the best to make a great show from Blitz Cup and make it in time.

[hardy robin]

Comparatively worse because of how much closer together all the tours are

[thorn shale]

Lol that’s funny

[thorn shale]

Summer: ALL july.
Blitz cup: 20 days counting top 8 round robin days

Its actually good.
Yes spread it a bit more , but the rest is fine. Now wait for prizes

[frosty nexus]

Last year there were 17 days of qualifiers in September (duration of each is about 3 hours) and 1 round robin stage in 5 days. This time it's about 12 days of qualifiers and 8 days of Pro

[novel yoke]

Yeah that’s fair @thorn shale . @frosty nexus thanks to the team for making an effort to make this season better. I hear it’s only a few people. I guess we are a bit hostile after what happened in summer. (And previous seasons with wr rigging)

[thorn shale]

Thank god Wargaming asked little Timmy and his ARL 44 about the scheduling for Autumn season 2021!!

[upper oar]

anyways Daria, thank you for taking the time to address our concerns

[leaden belfry]

And thank you for at least announcing this well in advance rather than right before it starts 😅

[chilly hemlock]

Within what time limits? I highly doubt 2020 had us playing 80% of the days of the tournament length

[chilly hemlock]

And let the Fall season memes begin. Ridiculous to think there hasn’t been an unflawed season in at least a year now

[frosty nexus]

@novel yokeI may understand the emotions our community feel. Anyway, we are staying between two different points of views and trying to connect them. From the one hand - interesting show-like matches day by day and the comforty of players, and from the other hand - time we need after teams will be determined to prepare everything for Blitz Cup. And we will have for about 20 days to complete everything.

[tulip finch]

Kinda happy I never got into comp 😅
Wouldn't be able to play any of the days cuz shifts are either right during tournament or I have to get up at 4am 😂

[leaden belfry]

Stijn made a good point though. I'm not sure why the beginning of September wasn't used to spread the days out more

[main belfry]

probably their time management not being amazing either, maybe conflicting with updates or something @leaden belfry

[chilly hemlock]

20 days of tournaments at the start of the school year within a 25 day period shows a complete disconnect to the players 🤦🏼‍♂️

[thorn salmon]

(pc bot :>)

[novel yoke]

Like amaunet85 said thank you for addressing this, I know it’s not only you that works on this but you are the one that is taking the time to discuss this with us so thanks

[hardy robin]

Can't wait for the next auszaa compilation 🤣

[toxic bridge]

@thorn shale issue is that you cant rotate players because you need to play all 4 qualifiers

[leaden belfry]

True. It's probable all matches fall between updates now

[thorn shale]

?

[frosty nexus]

@chilly hemlockqualifiers were each Tue-Wed and Sat-Sun, second stage of qualification - Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. But the tournament season has been started from September 1st. This time it starts at September 13th, and we did if because the small time period between Summer season and September with understanding that players need some rest

[thorn shale]

Now we wait for the 60TP to come before top 4 and change the meta

[chilly hemlock]

So 4 days a week vs 5 the first week, 6 the second, 4 the third and 5 the fourth with 8 days in a row

[vital obsidian]

The start time of Autum season has been announced long ago so its great now to see, it starts as announced 👌

[outer isle]

Emulator for top 8 ez clap

[slim blade]

1 sec bluestacks isn’t working properly

[frosty nexus]

@chilly hemlockmemes are not always the bad sign 🙂 Anyway I can't imagine the situation when everyone will love the schedule / regulations or anything else were doing. That's normal from some point of view because people are different. We are really trying to find out, you know, the golden mean and it makes us upset when we're facing aggressive critics but.. we will keep doing the best we can. And we're really appreciate the voice of our community, no matter how it looks like.

[leaden belfry]

Well...

[thorn shale]

@frosty nexus Please dont update the game during the tournament. Do it before qualifiers or after Blitz cup. Thanks 🙏

[leaden belfry]

At least people can't abuse their 100% winrate accounts anymore

[chilly hemlock]

Hard disagreement there….

I genuinely don’t understand why you don’t do a post season survey to at least everyone that’s apart of the top 4 teams as to tournament set up, times, dates, series lengths etc.

[leaden belfry]

That's probably why it doesn't start early September

[frosty nexus]

@thorn shalesadly we can't cancel updates during the season but we are planning tournaments on a different from updates days

[hardy robin]

Funny, because you seem to have a complete disregard for players' rest during the season?

[chilly hemlock]

You say you “appreciate the voice of the community” but what exactly is that? Just people talking here?

You have everyones emails already. Why not work with the community by asking what their preferences are? Obviously you don’t have to use all of what you learn from the responses but you’d greatly avoid these and prior situations

[frosty nexus]

@chilly hemlockevery opinion from the each player will be different. Don't forget that besides this we have the plan schedule for our own activities and we can't forget about it trying to make the season comfortable for the each individual

[ivory crane]

you guys are so disconnected its sad.

[chilly hemlock]

So make a poll and get a general view point

[frosty nexus]

@chilly hemlocklooks like 3 months for discussions and argues and 3 months for preparation. At the end we will have 2 seasons per year again 🙂

[toxic bridge]

why not?

[chilly hemlock]

I mean I’d take 2 well thought out seasons over whatever the summer season was

[thorn shale]

2 seasons a year would be fine

[main belfry]

or 1 season but it goes through the whole year? Like a League? i think a lot of people would rock the idea of a yearly league

@thorn shale gaseo u were complaining like 10mins ago, just to realize what you said was nonsense, now u claim to be some kind of wg hero? lol

[chilly hemlock]

We were used to spring and summer only from fall of 2017 to winter of 2019 so I think we could handle two seasons just fine

[chilly hemlock]

No one has the attention span for that tbh

[thorn shale]

Ppl: 2 seasons no make more
Wg: makes more
Ppl: 4 seasons no make less

U guys are amazing

If u dont want to play 4 seasons DONT play them. No one is asking u to do

@chilly hemlock so u say this last seasons are bad? Tbh i think wg is going forward in terms of comp

[thorn salmon]

@frosty nexus hey can i ask why the first pys is on 13, 14 and 16 September? Is the next update comming on 15 september? 🤔

[frosty nexus]

Exactly 😄

[chilly hemlock]

Quality over quantity mate

Always

[leaden belfry]

Will wg ever actually consider asking top teams for feedback? We all understand that you can't do everything everyone wants, but it's likely to result in a better season than this, at least

[chilly hemlock]

So summer season was a train wreck in basically every sense, before that there’s the 100% wr account scandal. Twice. And now 20 tournament nights in 25 days with the last 8 in a row is “progress”?

[chilly hemlock]

That’s why I suggested a poll or post season questionnaire

[leaden belfry]

Tbf, that's been suggested for literal years

The only time it happens is after an offline and that feedback is primarily about the offline

[chilly hemlock]

Because it’s been a great idea for years

[leaden belfry]

That's why it's frustrating that it's never happened

[stiff fiber]

whats with the 100% wr thing? i've never heard of it

[thorn shale]

Well for blitz cup u have less days than summer and no 100wr accs. So u just answered yourself. Is progress, not fast one, but at least its something

And i do agree they should ask top teams, i always said its good idea

[bright mango]

who pinged me in this channel

[frosty nexus]

@chilly hemlockplease try to walk in our shoes. I;m trying to explain you things as they are but I might be just wasting yours and my time for that, do I? The poll isn't a solution. Even if 70% percents will say that the schedule is fine the other 30% will be arguing about it. Opposite of this, we have our own inner schedule of preparation for the event We can't prepare it for a week. We need time, information and resources. As soon as we know all the teams for Blitz Cup we may start the final and the most important stage of preparation for the event.
If I'm just wasting our time trying to explain you that without any results please let me know, and we will finish our conversation. Because now I can't see anything besides blaming for everything without understanding of our point of view and respect for the reasons of this 🐱

[leaden belfry]

People used one or more accounts in their team of 1 battle, 100% winrate, to boost their seeding and get easier matches

[leaden belfry]

The poll wouldn't be about dates, it'd basically be feedback to you, directly from the people it affects most, of other things to think of. As said, even if not all can be implemented, I'm certain there's common ground

[frosty nexus]

@chilly hemlock@leaden belfry try to organize your own tourney please I hope it would be a good practice to understand how it works. The job of others always looks easier from the side.

[leaden belfry]

I'd appreciate if you could be less condescending

[upbeat iris]

What doubly think of this then:

A focus group of let’s say 1-2 individuals per region, who (like a CC) would represent their region when discussing concerns with seeding/formats/schedules/.. before and after tournaments? This would allow you to efficiently (timewise) collect the communities opinions while making the community more happy: win-win.

[leaden belfry]

I know wg puts in a lot of work, but that's why it's important to find common ground so that things could work for both you -and- the players

[main belfry]

why not actually? Let the players organize next season. With Streamers as their voice.

@leaden belfry yea we would need all the tools wg has for that ofc

@novel yoke then let me word it different: If the top 16 teams think of a concept for the "pro" tourney, and this is how next season works, i think it can be very interesting.

[leaden belfry]

A community tournament takes even more work to organise as you don't have automatic training rooms and spectators and invites and all that from the system to work with, nor registrations and seeding and everything

All that happens automatically in the game run tournaments

[slim blade]

I think the main issue here is that there’s only 2 people running the entire games esports scene

[leaden belfry]

That's why I find Daria's comment so condescending

[leaden belfry]

That too

[novel yoke]

It seems simple but that’s not a good idea. There can be so many loopholes. Community tournaments already happen anyways and they should remain separate from the official tournaments unless there can be some sort of productive collaboration (I doubt that would happen)

[dreamy bolt]

When will rewards and more details be put out

[night barn]

all pys in 2 weeks 😆 😆. Great idea wg

[chilly hemlock]

Oh I am trying to help but I’m so tired of all of the scandals and poor decisions and I’m not alone. The very best players you have feel like their voices are largely, worthless

The poll is to at least show players that you care what they think. Doing it for top 4 means you get the best of the best players and only 40 per server so it’s easier to read through them.

In my mind the poll would discuss:
Days per week
Maps
Series format (double elim, round robin etc)
Series battle count (bo5, bo7 etc)

Again. I’m sure you do listen to the community and their feedback but when we don’t feel heard or see results, people give up and quit. I want to see tournaments thrive especially as someone lucky enough to get the chance to go to offlines. It’s very very special. I want more people to enjoy what I did (obviously not offlines with covid currently)

The biggest issue that consistently holds back wg games is the disconnect between wg staff and the playerbase. It’s in every single game to various degrees but it’s always communication. @frosty nexus I apologize for being harsh and I understand you are doing what you feel is right. I think we all want to see success, we just have different opinions on how to achieve that

[dreamy bolt]

We have made community tournaments and effectively have less issues than you guys do purely because we take the advice of those playing it who know the will of the people, if wargaming took advice from us we would be much better off, but again thats my opinion and obviously you guys will condescend it but i will say it anyway 🤡 🤡

[ivory crane]

💩

[novel yoke]

For pay? Once again it seems simple, but how would you keep them unbiased and actually doing their job correctly? I think that @chilly hemlock has a good idea, it would be nice if the actual top tournament players could give feedback. I’m not sure how that would specifically work though. Maybe a separate website or something? I feel like it would keep the feedback more concise

[frosty nexus]

@leaden belfrywe're collecting the feedback each season. And before we start the preparation for the new season we're checking once again the feedback from previous.
The polls are not objective every time. That's the number without a meaning. Before we started the preparation to the upcoming season we discussed with Russian esports community in the social network about the format of qualifiers and they found 2 circles in RR the best solution. So we've implemented that and now.. it's not suit again, as you may see 🙂

[main belfry]

there is other comunities beside russia u see... just take everyone into the boat, then its gonna work out better

[chilly hemlock]

There’s three other servers you didn’t talk to. There’s the lack of communication I just mentioned

[frosty nexus]

Now I have to go back to my work, friends.
Thank you for the conversation. I heard a lot things to think about. Anyway the schedule of the Autumn season we won't change. For the next time we will keep in the mind that some players need more rest between matches.

[slim blade]

facepalm

[royal cradle]

I do believe that the new format is nice and better than before but yet again there's things which still could be improved based on that but well guess we have to wait for a couple years to see a tournament the majority is happy with. The speed of your progress could be a lot faster.

[night barn]

Maybe for next season u will not delete cups and giving compensation of 1d PA

[frosty nexus]

@chilly hemlockThere a thousands of players to talk to. We can't speak to the each of them.

[chilly hemlock]

Only 80 make top 8 each season so why talk to thousands?

[gray pond]

Only discussed with Russian esports community
very helpful and worthy

[dreamy bolt]

This is exactly the problem though… theres more than just the russian server and despite “taking the feedback from players” we still continue to see negligence, more and more issues each season and a pretty pathetic effort from wargaming pre season to ensure issues dont come up, and what you just said above is ridiculous because you dont need to talk to everyone just the people who make top8 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[toxic lintel]

I don’t know what the big fuss is about. I mean sure it’s not perfect for streaming/playing but they did listen to our opinions before. They fixed the seeding at least in a way that is better than before. Schedule is not so bad as the summer season either.

[novel yoke]

We are one of the smaller communities. I do think that the seasons have had improvements, RR is better than wr rigged brackets. They really just messed up the summer season due to oversights, otherwise it would have been a good season with a whack schedule 😆 I’m not gonna mention what happened in top 8 👀

[limber lintel]

a fair message to everyone here,

We can't deny that there is progress in the right direction and to just walk past that and just "attack" WG, realistically isn't very appreciative of this progress and realistically also won't help our case

Points WG adressed:
-The winrate seeding has been improved, it's far from perfect, but it will still make it harder to abuse
-Some maps were removed from the pool after people complained about it
-We got Round Robin in the professionals, and a Double Elimination format in the challenger, instead of the Single Elimination

A fair props to WG for adressing these issues partly or completely is due, however and this is more aimed at WG, we would appreciate a lot more community input into how the tournaments are scheduled, the maps that are played, or even give ideas for a new seeding system,

because it's only a matter of time before teams have 7 rerolls who get to 1k games, in the next season, which would be winter, prepare yourself to see 7 1k game accounts, so please look ahead of this and see this as a fair warning of what's to come and try not to see this seeding system as final and finished,

because it's a temporary fix realistically and a new final insanely good formula should be on the drawing board for WG,

and for the playerbase, please keep a respectful way of talking with WG, respect is a 2-way street, if we close it we will never see full-on commmunity-based decisions by WG

o7, gl in season,

[chilly hemlock]

Even top 4 would be a start. 40 people on each server

[royal cradle]

That's also true but tbh the speed of improvements is just eeh also the communication as raik said is bad

[wet tide]

What maps have been removed, I missed that part lol
Edit: thats nice!

[night barn]

himmel, yamato and canyon i think

[slim blade]

Yes, it’s progress but,,, it’s been 6 months lol

[upbeat iris]

Neither options are objective forms of feedback. Taking just the top 4 is already a heavily biased opinion too. Seeding matters less for them as opposed to a top 8-16 team for example. Different issues are there for different teams.

You can’t guarantee representatives to be fully objective (tbf its already a fully subjective topic to begin with), but at least they can represent a range of clans to address a few of the main problems.

Bit like how student representatives in universities work. They have a lot of influence and they represent a ton of students. It works there with a similar goal, improving the current system through feedback.

[thorn shale]

Lmao I look here and see a ridiculous amount of complaining

[novel yoke]

Yeah true. I do think that things are going in a good direction though. It’s taking a while but it’s probably harder than it looks I guess

[thorn shale]

I’d just like to have it on record that I’m really looking forward to the upcoming season and am eager to find out more details about Blitz Cup 2021

[thorn shale]

^

Just to add on to this, WG increased team size from 9 -> 10 players for a reason

Teams will be able to rotate players because of this and I’m sure most will be able to manage their player activity just fine

[main belfry]

rewards should be for all 10 then not only still for 7

No rewards just got less per head since the total reward didnt change @thorn shale maybe i worded it bad but thats what i meant

@novel yoke yea but if 7 people got 1k gold f.e. now 10 people still get 1k gold not more. that means the per head reward is getting smaller

[thorn shale]

Rewards are for all 10.

[limber lintel]

not really, people have to play 4 qualifyers to enter main tournament, and there's 4 qualifiers, kek

[novel yoke]

Me too (if I even play), fingers crossed there isn’t any oversight issues like summer 👀 It should be a good season @main belfry huh? The rewards are for all 10?

[thorn shale]

^

Any tournament that offers significant prize money has always been a very very involved process

After all, it offers the chance for people to earn a lot of money through just being good at Blitz.

[novel yoke]

Like 90% of the player base doesn’t even participate in tournaments, I wonder what benefits wg gets from even running them. Like what %of new players see the tournaments and try this game out because of it? How do tournaments affect server activity and sales? Idk maybe these changes have taken a while because tournaments don’t do much for the game or the 40-50%winrate majority of players

[main belfry]

without tourneys a lot of very good players would have already left the game, so wg would loose popularity in the most known playerbase

A game without players that play at high standards, will die pretty quick because there is no skill gap

[tulip finch]

The 100% ACC's were decent earnings 😂 imo

[chilly hemlock]

I think everyone is on that same page. The new seeding system will hopefully work flawlessly and not have loopholes. The qualifying stage will do a good job at sorting the top teams. I just think that this schedule scares/discourages players from getting involved. Obviously the top teams will just grind through but for others… We all want the tournament scene and everyone with it to get bigger and idk if this schedule helps

[candid lance]

hmmst

[supple hearth]

No

[fast hare]

O_o__O_o__O_o [SPRTA] (eu)#9380 was muted

[wintry hound]

XD

[fast hare]

NITROGLYCERIN#0506 has been warned.

[frigid aurora]

its the same in any esports game only the best can enter esports and ofc a 40%er wouldn’t care, but there are a lot of benefits such as the status of an esports game which allows for better advertisements, merch, sales, attracting sponsorship from other orgs, even monetization from any video platforms. nobody cares about pro players, even this aspect of the game is to maximize the profit coming from randomers, and everything is done for their entertainment and involvement - key and other reward systema on streams just proves it. and im pretty sure that the prize pool for each tourney which is meant to be a motivation to play the game is miserable compared to the amount of money earned from all of this simply cus its business
nice kek fun tour system btw took 6 months of work to basically change nothing. not going to complain about the dates cus it’s comfortable imo u come u play everything and chill but why is it hard to just keep the same seeding only with implementation of counting battles in along with the winrate, not on a particular tier to get rid of the loophole like

[untold tinsel]

is this a joke? 8 straight days? nice wg

[chilly hemlock]

Please report it to wg support

[odd wolf]

bruh 8 straight days omr. or rather not 8 straight days but still that’s ridiculously close. @leaden belfry i thought people were talking about qualifier dates but then i looked at the top 8 dates just now haha

[leaden belfry]

it is 8 days straight

in total, it's 20 out of 25 days

it's two days playing, one day off, seven days playing, one day off, three days playing, three days off, eight days playing

[untold tinsel]

idc about top 8 for 8 days. it’s the 7 days of pys nonstop

[sinful crest]

feels bad man slave schedule again

[vital obsidian]

Are all teams playing 3 days in a row in qualifier tour or only the best 🙄

[thorn shale]

I’m a big fan of the double round robin getting a return

I think x2 round robin is far and away the most balanced format for Top 8 and results in the best Top 4.

Also allows for a higher chance of upsets to take place

[chilly hemlock]

Question is bo3, 5 or 7

[thorn shale]

Ah yea fair point

[chilly hemlock]

I think 5 is probably the best number

[thorn shale]

@frosty nexus are you able to reveal whether the Professional tournament games are Bo3, Bo5, or Bo7?

🙏

[thorn shale]

100% agreed

[frosty nexus]

@thorn shaleBo7

[thorn shale]

Oh wow

[proper kraken]

oh nah

[thorn shale]

So the double Round Robin will all be Bo7 games?

Very interesting

[chilly hemlock]

The grind continues

[thorn shale]

Still, I’d rather have it be Bo7 than Bo3

[vale matrix]

another no life season

[proper kraken]

do you have nothing better to do with your time serious question with no disrespect intended

[chilly hemlock]

With 14 series the best teams would still make top 4 in bo3 even with a couple upsets

But it wouldn’t be as clear for sure

[thorn shale]

I am a full time college student 🙂

[frosty nexus]

@thorn shaleyes

[thorn shale]

Very cool, thank you for the info 👌

[proper kraken]

would you rather not have shorter matches and more time to focus on your education / future 😛

[thorn shale]

I think I’ll manage both 😁

[sinful crest]

I’m going to break up with my girlfriend to focus on blitz. Can’t let distractions get in the way of my grind.

[thorn shale]

Bruh 😭

[slim blade]

who needs a job blitz pays well enough
it was rhetorical

[rare trellis]

nice! i can’t wait to play 8 straight days for some camos for some pixel tanks and a pocket full of change 😊. if you can’t play blitz 8 days straight do u really deserve to be a pro? 😅

[rose cairn]

I DO

[untold tinsel]

@sinful crest i’m breaking up with you to play 7v7 tournaments

[proud holly]

Bruh why is it 6 days a week again

[proper kraken]

@sinful crest can we platoon later idk and vc i think you’re cute 🥺

[proud holly]

@frosty nexus for a qualifier tournaments, is the first stage single elimination?

[thorn shale]

@proud holly read the pinned message again

[frosty nexus]

@proud hollydouble elimination

[sinful crest]

Sus bro @proper kraken yes I need to unrust for autumn season anyway

[untold tinsel]

bro…..why

[frosty nexus]

@candid lancehello, read pinned message please

[proud holly]

I just wanted to confirm whether “(double, double, single)” was in relative order 😔.

Thx Daria

[odd wolf]

u don’t have one

[sinful crest]

Yeah not anymore cos I told her I needed to grind blitz

[candid lance]

That is not a good idea

[floral herald]

Good afternoon I have a question that is eating my mind and I would like to clarify it. In question, the special tournaments of 2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, 4 vs 4 are somewhat new games and little information because in the case that neither one of the two teams finds that there in those game modes does not move, who wins? Is it according to the life or the damage you do, or how? explain me please.

[tardy bay]

I like tournament

[signal depot]

yeah np. just trinna help make the game better. part of why im looking into getting my computer engineering sciences degree so i can work for wargaming.

[proud holly]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/521999784991522817/880039624251174932/unknown.png

I almost don’t want to aim for top 8 anymore if I have to play this game 8 days in a row

[stone coyote]

i mean fair

[untold tinsel]

less competition doesn’t make it better

[silk thistle]

When will the 7v7s be available again? The 2v2s, 3v3s, etc r enjoyable but 7v7s is the traditional format so I wish they were more available. As for the smaller formats, they can be alternated in the course of 2 weeks, making the 7v7s more available.

So just a suggestion:
1st week
Mon - 2v2
Wed - 7v7
Fri - 3v3
Sat and Sun - 7v7

2nd week
Mon - 4v4
Wednesday - 7v7
Fri - 5v5
Sat and Sun - 7v7

Or something like that, making 7v7s more available while making the smaller formats more unique

[fast hare]

Shiawase#8155 has been warned.

[thick elk]

12 pys in 14 days lol epic

[silk thistle]

When ur ign is inappropriate for server nickname smh

[merry blade]

Bo7 ftw 🙌

[elder coral]

@silk thistle I have 0 doubts that your name was inappropriate lol

[upbeat iris]

<@&481447501690568709> ^

[fast hare]

APA_Account1#4257 was banned

[young furnace]

💀

[flat goblet]

Nice schedule

I’m not doing all those days. Qualifiers aren’t interesting until the final stages anyways.

[chilly hemlock]

Streaming gonna be fun too

2 rounds of round robin in 8 days 😂

[fresh lance]

Until people start crying over keys again kekw

[grave willow]

Horrible schedule and for no reason

[fast hare]

uni#6988 has been warned.

_Mojkar#2691 has been warned.

[winter swallow]

@muted ore are you looking for an additional streamer for autumn season?

[rare trellis]

wHeRe ArE mY kEyS???!!!?!

[empty phoenix]

8 days in a row good god

[modest whale]

Yo rolling streaming 👀

[merry blade]

now we just need Organizations to start picking teams up and signing and paying players so we can live the full "full time" Esports experience

[thorn shale]

Pog?

[winged saffron]

Upon review of that calendar, I no longer wish to play

[proud holly]

Affirmative

[untold tinsel]

@winged saffron dang

[narrow meteor]

A new format! I am looking for everyone’s opinion on this format to therefore form my own opinion

[cinder dune]

is wg paying you for this?

[fast hare]

dingdong#9655 was muted

[untold tinsel]

😂

[fast hare]

ferocity#7749 was muted

[thorn shale]

Format isn’t really new tbf. Double round robin hasn’t been used for a few years, but I’d actually say it’s my favorite way for Top 8 to played

[sinful crest]

You’re my favorite

[thorn shale]

🥰

[proper kraken]

tj is okay i guess

[proud holly]

I’m reporting TJ for ingame harassment

[fresh lance]

I mean yes... but Bo7? Ig we gonna have dinner with homies in VC during this season 😐

[thorn shale]

Because I’m on West Coast time, I either have 5pm dinner or 9pm dinner on tournament days

😂

[fresh lance]

Ayo we can also introduce our wardrobe ghosts to each other when we finish our games at like 2 am

[orchid spear]

I like tournaments!

[royal cradle]

Would be nice to have u back

[elder coral]

pog?

[slim blade]

I often juggle and eat my dinner whilst playing lmao

[spring gale]

ayo? throwback to 2018 with u in pramo and me in malice

[thorn shale]

🥺

[deep burrow]

tourney is hard when you have bad clan mates.

[limber lintel]

@unique estuary stop this toxic guy

[fresh lance]

is that beluga :0

[elder coral]

tbh i like the idea for a double round robin for top 8 especially if the winner of this goes to an offline final because you really want to make sure you got the best team on the server and this is a good way to do it

[unique estuary]

dont tag me ?mute @limber lintel 4h

[thorn shale]

Yeah I'd say much lenghter top 8 qualifier to make top 4 is great, Summer seasons single elimination to top 4 was a massive joke

[calm atlas]

There’s no offline

[elder coral]

F

[chilly hemlock]

“I don’t think you have the facilities, big man”

[unique estuary]

"you missed the joke"

[civic glacier]

Hush poopoo @thorn shale

[elder coral]

Woah that’s some vulgar language right there

[thorn shale]

Error 808 DaBaby not found

[tardy bay]

Can we please respect the moderators here? They work hard to make this server the best it can be.

[candid lance]

Simp

[modest whale]

Can we not call each other simps? That is extremely offensive.

[elder coral]

if offensive means accurate then you are right on the money 😉

[proud holly]

Shutup simp

[gilded pendant]

This schedule looking horrific.

[muted ore]

@winter swallow You'd better check with Darth_Antonius

[winter swallow]

Thanks will do

[vital obsidian]

The new seeding system; will it count wr from 7 players or all 10?

[forest matrix]

7

[spring gale]

rolling streaming again 🙏

[warped patrol]

less go

[unique estuary]

you can

[thorn shale]

RollingSwarm is back 👀

[frosty nexus]

Dear players,

We took into account your comments about the tight schedule of Professional tournament in the upcoming season and decided to make some changes.
According this there will be few days-off without matches.
The format of the tournament is the same: Round Robin + Round Robin, Bo7.
Dates: September 30, October 1, October 3, October 4, October 6, October 7, October 9 and October 10.

Good luck in the upcoming season!

[graceful jetty]

Thankyou! :) @frosty nexus
Respect +

[ember marlin]

Thanks for listening to the community

[vital obsidian]

Thank you so much 🤗

[sinful crest]

Thank you @frosty nexus 🙌🏽

[winter swallow]

You want #tourneys-team-search

[grim blade]

👍 Changed to the better.

[upbeat iris]

Amazing to see this happen!

[fast hare]

polar#2831 was banned

[spark pumice]

Thank you for making adjustments based on our feedback it means a lot😎 👍

[royal cradle]

Thanks WG 🙏🏻 I hope it continues going in this direction where community and company work together on solutions and so on.

[proud holly]

These are strange times

[royal cradle]

^Better times

[chilly hemlock]

Thank you for changing the schedule and listening to all four of the servers!

[leaden belfry]

Thank you so much for extending the days a bit to allow a breather ❤️ very much appreciated!

[proper kraken]

can we be friends

[merry blade]

god bless blitz

[proper kraken]

can we be friends

[flat goblet]

Not bad

[topaz charm]

Excellent course of plan. Great decision to reschedule the tournament a bit

[ancient shard]

W for wargaming

[spark pumice]

Wgaming

[flat goblet]

Dubgaming

[sinful crest]

Might have to reconsider getting back with my ex, might actually have time

[thorn shale]

😂😂

[proper kraken]

can we be friends

[sinful crest]

I’m subscribed to your YouTube Channel.

[proper kraken]

does this mean we’re friends 🥺

[sinful crest]

Yes 😋

[proper kraken]

wanna do a 2v2 tournament friend ☺️

[sinful crest]

Yes 😋

[slim blade]

first dates 101

[flat goblet]

Yes

[tame bone]

Romantic

[untold tinsel]

@sinful crest i see u have no need for ur ex now 😂

[flat goblet]

<@&481447501690568709> ^phishing link

[candid lance]

hm

[solar quarry]

Ngl I’m excited to see what strats teams pull on ghost factory

[ancient shard]

It’s not gonna be comp for fall

[candid lance]

Lol neither is Himmels,Canyon or Yamato

[elder coral]

Thank goodness for that. Would’ve been interesting to see ghost factory though. The issue is that there really hasn’t been enough time for people to adjust to the map yet tbh so it’s probably good that they didn’t put it in right away

[outer isle]

@proper kraken Yesss!

[spring gale]

this is pog times

[eternal cape]

Hi

[forest matrix]

Lol how long do u think is needed - would have been good I think

[limber lintel]

nah I hate it, not promising for cw imo

[winter swallow]

@brave niche - possible to stream the mad games tournament?

[limber lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-smile-whut-weird-stare-gif-16592004

Seems fun tho

[slim blade]

yes can we have winter season be entirely mad games tournaments? thx

[rocky crystal]

Agree 🙂

[thorn shale]

whys mad games tourney only tier 8

[slim blade]

I think og burning games is better

[graceful jetty]

Burning games not og

[thorn shale]

Sheriairline tourna better

[grim blade]

Epic, including friendly fire on.

[calm atlas]

hello wg are u gonna fix loss and ping in game or u let us enjoy lagging

[thorn shale]

That's the best use of that Gif I've ever seen

[modest whale]

<@&481447501690568709> scam?

[elder coral]

youre account is hacked <@&481447501690568709> this guy had his account hacked

[fast hare]

apokaliptrix#8229 was softbanned

[chilly hemlock]

Yeah I think he clicked the link of one prior

[flat goblet]

Mad games tournaments 😁

[elder coral]

tier 5 mad games tournament 😉

[thorn shale]

Today some teams were like madgames tournament teams. Maus tanks were running quick as progetto.

[thorn shale]

in order to enhance the quality of competitive gameplay i motion for gravity tournaments

[mellow belfry]

Hello . When are we going to know more info about the prizes for Autumn season?

[sonic patio]

Yes pls

[main belfry]

@muted ore this is the second time this happens in midseason, its the same people as last time. There is more teams with names indicating racial slurs.

[elder coral]

Well, at least this is confirmation of the mental capacity of people like that. Below the average blitz player which is impressive

Also, send a ticket to WG player support I think that’s how you’re supposed to report it