tourneys-discussion

[chilly hemlock]

@urban bough stop ranting. We get your point. Enough.

If you want to play big tournaments for now, get a mobile device ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Or go play wot pc

[urban bough]

It's simply because a few number of people play rating battles.

@odd wolf
If wasn't designed for pc , why release on PC? :)

@azure pecan
12 inch or 6 inch ,that's the same. All are touch. Screen size is not stopping them from participating all tournaments--_--

@chilly hemlock u can ignore my messages.
And how tf u can write frequently.
Slow mode not for u ?

[rocky crystal]

Bruh, do you not have a phone? Just learn to play mobile. Not only that, PC Players can still play QTs and Season Coins. This is a mobile game, not a Pc game. Like everyone said, play Wot pc if you wanna play tourney on Pc. Just like how Mobile players cant even play wot pc. Should be grateful that WG allowed Pc Players on Blitz in the first place.

[sinful crest]

If I was a wargaming dev I’d ban all pc players.

[azure pecan]

You didnt understand my point its ok, it means its not answering what you were thinking so all fine.

Btw there are many TOP players that go to offlines by playing on phone. So just grab yours if you're really motivated or invest in a tablet (maybe instead of your pc ?)

and yes i have cooldown as well 5mins

[young furnace]

💀

[fresh lance]

+1

[chilly hemlock]

If you can’t read. This is #tourneys-discussion not #rating-battles

I say again. Drop it. You’ve made your point

[obtuse hound]

@urban bough this right here counters your whole argument, just stop replying to a conversation you can’t win

[urban bough]

@rocky crystal let us be more grateful to WG by allowing us join all tournaments :v

@sinful crest thanks God u aren't on WG.
They would be in serious problem lol.

I have both pc and mobile. I used to play on mobile.
It's just I feel comfortable on pc.its nothing serious.
@thorn shale

[wicked breach]

If it’s nothing serious then why do you keep crying and why can’t you just play mobile?

[sinful crest]

@urban bough if anything I’d solve the problem and ban all pc players.

[glass thunder]

leave the pc guy alone nothing wrong if they ask about major pc tournament only and not be in same one with tc (well i don't think we have enough players to make major pc tournament)
its weird how all attack him when he did ask WG

[fresh lance]

Let me put it this way, PC players are like missiles in sheridan :)

[gilded marsh]

can i play in pc tournaments with my phone¿? ! ! ! 👉 👈

[rocky crystal]

^^

Can i download wot pc w my phone?

[azure pecan]

nevermind i spent time to try to argue with a man which wants wg to change their game ADN just because he feels more comfortable on his pc than on his phone

yeah well i had more profitable times in my life xd

[spark pumice]

i want to do clan wars from my phone on wot pc!!!!!

[urban bough]

@chilly hemlock
Just for information, are u a moderator?
It's good to get so much attention bru :3 @glass thunder

U can ask WG 😃
@spark pumice @rocky crystal

[young furnace]

you're getting attention but also 🤡 ing urself

[fresh lance]

Yes!! Let's download wot PC from our phone and play 15v15 in the PC clan wars!! I'm bad at PC because I never learned but i can play from my phone 🥺

[urban bough]

Hi hi 😃@thorn shale
@young furnace doesn't matter.

@fresh lance well that can happen.
But first let them release wot pc on phone 😂
But our demands are fair enough.
Blitz is already on PC :)
80% of the tasks are already done for us :3
Just lifting the ban over control system is remaining :v

[terse perch]

wot pc restored competitive tournament mode.
Maybe there you can try to play tournaments like Blitz. @urban bough

[urban bough]

Idk why u guys are telling me to leave blitz.
Ain't leaving you guys 😃

[fresh lance]

And that's why we have same device option to enable 🙏

[vapid crypt]

@urban bough do you have a life ? You’ve been talking about pc for 3 days now.

[urban bough]

I can do this all day :3

@fresh lance turning on the same device options will allowe me do clan wars ?

[odd wolf]

to get the game more popular…? why do u think they released this game on switch? because it was designed for switch? no. ur making a meme of urself

[fresh lance]

No but i can avoid finding PC players in game

[chilly hemlock]

Yes. I’m a moderator. That why I have the “moderator” role

[young furnace]

he didn't see that coming 😩

[chilly hemlock]

You’re going to stop however or you will be muted

Choose your words carefully

[vapid crypt]

Yes plz

[urban bough]

Ok bro
I'll stop for now.
But I'll come back if I don't get responses from WG :)

Bro how can u tell

[chilly hemlock]

You’re not going to get a response from them realistically. And you’re not going to keep bringing it up here

[steel shell]

you wont get any response whatsoever since the topic you are trying to talk about is bs, im pretty sure they have said plenty of times that major pc tournaments wont be a thing, the same goes for spgs xD

[shy sun]

@urban bough bigger problems about tourneys have been brought up to wg and still no answer, pc players on tourneys is the last thing wg will answer to

[fresh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/bongocat-banhammer-ban-hammer-bongo-gif-18219363

[chilly hemlock]

No kidding. There were like 3-4 crazy mistakes with summer season alone lol

[urban bough]

Well technically it's a demand rather than a problem :/

Aren't we players allowed to ask something to the authority?
:/ @chilly hemlock

[fallen leaf]

With the news post on Summer Season results, should we expect rewards for them sooner, or is that unrealistic?

[odd wolf]

@fallen leaf nah that shouldn’t change anything. they will come whenever wg finishes

[shy sun]

@chilly hemlock yeah exactly, we had evenings with the whole server asking for some answers and we got nothing, but the guy just wants to be able to clap some touch players, hence he s talking about pc mixed with touch or some

[chilly hemlock]

You can and did. No you’re being told to move on. I’m done with this and so are you

[chilly hemlock]

Far bigger fish to fry than pc being added to pro seasons.. you know. Like having smooth problem free people seasons or tournament room invites working or an actual seeding system that works lol

For the few dozen people globally? Hah

[vapid crypt]

“Clap some touch players”

[shy sun]

If only wg saw this message, we would know something good came out of the pc tourneys question lol

[chilly hemlock]

It’s incredible how much of a step backwards summer season was while having 5 years of tournament data and 4 plus years of pro seasons

[slim blade]

this matchmaking system better be really special

[shy sun]

Well all that s left is our hope that autumn will be way better. Either that, or its gonna keep getting worse, in which case I bet teams will lose interest

[tulip finch]

Next up pro avatar from crates and the winner of a match will be picked randomly not considering the outcome of a battle😂

[slim blade]

no you clowns, the pro avatar will be handed out in a giveaway m60-style

[tulip finch]

Additionally to random seeding we introduce you to random tank picks so we choose randomly which tank I will play
That would actually be interesting to see people dealing with a random tank team

[chilly hemlock]

Eh. As long as there’s cash prizing people will play

[steel shell]

yeah i dont see top clans stepping down

[wet tide]

That’d be funny lmao
I’m down

[steel shell]

random maps would be poggers as well

[jade hornet]

idk i think amount and kind of ammo should be randomized tbh

[wet tide]

Full HE lmaooo

[fresh lance]

Randomized maps would actually be funny

[burnt glacier]

@wet tide 4202 time

[pearl phoenix]

Seek and destroy, but what if you don’t find me and can’t destroy me, what then

[tulip finch]

Copperfield for comp let's gooo 😂

[thorn salmon]

Mines >>

[tulip finch]

I still enjoy mines even tho it highly favours 1 side

[thorn shale]

pls wg do it its op

[steel shell]

Season avatars, team avatars, clan logos or team camos, is it that much to ask?

[candid lance]

I think they should keep clan avatars to just autumn something special for the biggest season

[fallow turret]

Agreed although clan attachments would be a cool thing

[atomic tartan]

realistically we'll get PC in tournaments when the PC Blitz playerbase is big enough to buy more crates than mobile. that is the point when this sort of thing will be considered. that is a chicken or egg scenario tho, the question being whether the amount of interested comp players Blitz will take away from actual WOT PC will be more than the existing displeased mobile comp players ditching

[candid lance]

Go play wotpc if you wanna play pc lmao it’s a mobile game

[atomic tartan]

that's just market pandering which doesn't really mean anything and it will stay like that for as long as PC Blitz isn't a massive cash cow. the second amount of money coming from PC Blitz players significantly >> mobile Blitz is when Blitz will focus more on kbm. luckily it's been like 4 years and we're still nowhere near having to worry about that

you have to remember that the general PC owner population cross shopping these two games aren't going in thinking "three years down the line I'm winning Twister". most of them are pubbies that will download WOT PC for the graphics or whatever. so you'd basically need like the entire Clan Wars group to all download Blitz for this to really be a concern

[thick elk]

it is a mobile game, but at this point it's also a pc game as it has a decent amount of pc players. The comp however is just mobile

[candid lance]

It’s fine If pc players play the game like even I play on pc every now and then but the main tournaments should always remain Mobile

[atomic tartan]

long story short, "its a mobile game" really means nothing, PC isn't allowed on tournaments because it doesn't make sense from a $$$ perspective and it won't make sense anytime soon so tournaments will stay mobile for the foreseeable future

[thick elk]

yep, if major pc tourneys are ever added they should 100% be separate from the mobile ones, and as it's been pointed out, that makes 0 sense from a $ view so it wont happen.

[grim vine]

@muted ore @frosty nexus sorry if this question has been answered already, but you’ve said that fall season will have winrate based seeding. Will the winrate finally be weighted by battles, or will it be like the previous seasons leading up to summer?

[tardy bay]

Can you stop asking them so many questions, give them some time to decide.

[candid lance]

Smh

[merry blade]

#wgmakedecisionnow

[terse perch]

I agree with kJIy6Hu4ka

[frosty nexus]

@thorn shaleNintendo Switch users may participate in all tournaments

@grim vinedetails of the new formula we are planning to share soon

[vital obsidian]

Netforce has made an excellent tournament related question, please vote for it ! - WG only answers questions with the most votes.
#872389461286215710 message

[wet tide]

Then I shall continue seeking kekw
I don’t care what you are lmao

[upper oar]

...

[wet tide]

Ik…. Was kinda disappointed by that comment aswell

[merry blade]

All that hate on that man and still got the reply . What a legend lol

[gilded marsh]

it’s like all the hate you got for rigging and then getting away with it 😅

[bold sierra]

😳

[final mortar]

Sheeesh that was interesting to read lol

[graceful jetty]

Rewards are out

[thorn salmon]

Dont jebait us :c

[spring marlin]

i got mine

[bleak crypt]

Da vinci right here bois

[final mortar]

Omg 😂

[odd wolf]

stop the cap 🧢

[supple carbon]

Can i buy it pls

[spring marlin]

$50

[graceful jetty]

Selling pro rewards right under wg nose

[thorn shale]

Nice 7v7 tournament bruh, got 70k from it
Next time tho I'm finding more better players to team with

[chilly hemlock]

I’m waiting for Mario and sonic go to twister cup

[acoustic garden]

Who isn't pfff 😂

[spark pumice]

tell me you missed the point without telling me you missed the point

[steel shell]

Just read it again man 😂

[supple hearth]

Day 5 of waiting for my rewards

[pliant peak]

I can't wait to finally get this beautiful avatar

[cobalt yarrow]

Day 5 still waiting for my Action X

[slim blade]

pain

[merry blade]

Ahh I c a narcissistic manipulative tanker please let me drink your tears

[restive ridge]

when rewards

[modest whale]

how is that narcissistic what

[terse perch]

👁️👄👁️

[thorn shale]

where reward wg

[tame bone]

It’s the same question everyday 😄

What’s with the rush?

[vagrant thicket]

tell me you rigged into top 4 and got bodied without telling me you rigged and got bodied

[fresh lance]

I checked and they're not, don't spread fake info 😤

[modest whale]

I don't think mj got into top 4 cuz they lost to r

[rocky crystal]

Guys rewards are out now!!!

[odd wolf]

no they aren’t stop the 🧢

[vapid crypt]

Don’t trust anyone from the NA server so stop 🧢 ing

[upper oar]

Switch is a handheld device so its perfectly understandable that it would be allowed in all tournaments

@vagrant thicket no u

[fallen leaf]

He is from ASIA. It’s not impossible they get theirs before we do.

[past marlin]

It was indeed fake news

[vagrant thicket]

🙃 _ _

[gilded marsh]

lol

[merry blade]

Tell me you tried to knock us out of top 8 while being knocked out of top 8 @vagrant thicket

[narrow meteor]

It doesn’t matter because you guys got the same place as Blue

[fallow turret]

Lol

[thorn shale]

tell me u dont know when to shut up without telling me u dont know when to shut up

[odd wolf]

^

[harsh quail]

☹️

[steel shell]

tell them chip fella!

[young furnace]

@harsh quail damn bro, u gonna let him do you like that 😤

[gilded marsh]

good work feller!

[young furnace]

Nice, he came back with a different discord account

[flat goblet]

^
At least he was subtle about it 😅

[terse perch]

Xd

[fast hare]

Dark_Soldier#9406 was banned

[young furnace]

🙏

[steel shell]

what did he do? 😄

[dim pivot]

It was the guy who wanted major tours for pc, i think
just with a different acc

[young furnace]

Watch him make a different account again 😂

[modest whale]

I believe we should have major tours for pc 👍

[steel shell]

ah, wondering why he hasnt given up

[merry blade]

Ahh sorry baby misclick

[vagrant thicket]

i think everyone would've rather seen arkm over mj in top 8. respectfully.

[tardy bay]

@vagrant thicket Shut up

[young furnace]

O **** here we go again

[merry blade]

@vagrant thicket true tho

Steel tower battles when? I need you to carry early games with patrols!

[fresh lance]

wholesome sportive community
https://tenor.com/view/teddy-ted-movie-aww-bear-gif-13518854

[frank forum]

100 don't mean 100 in Belarus?

[tardy bay]

Why are you capping the base 😐

[rough tusk]

You need 1 tick after it hits 100. Clearly a failed attempt at a joke

[vital delta]

A few seconds after 100, the red team entered the base, and it went yellow. It was during a 4 vs 4 tournament. So WG need to work on the endgame and make the game stop when its meant to stop, not 10 seconds later

[burnt glacier]

Need to pay for 100th points, man
Bruh

[tardy bay]

Please keep this channel on topic, dont make me tell any of the moderators.

[supple hearth]

Be quite sir

[obtuse hound]

Day 6 of waiting for my Top 32 Avatar

[fallen leaf]

Day 6 of waiting for my credits

[rocky crystal]

Day 6 of waiting for nothing

[primal talon]

Day 6 of waiting for rewards

[wet tide]

Are we seriously doing this lmao?

[rough tusk]

Its a saturday. Doesn't count as working day...

[proud holly]

Day 6:

[tame bone]

Hm

[burnt glacier]

@shadow topaz before it was keys

[limber lintel]

When season recap?

[graceful jetty]

I got rewards jn guys

[upper oar]

shut

[pliant peak]

🤔

[supple hearth]

Day 6 of waiting for my pro blue

[modest whale]

day 6 of waiting for my lower echelon avatar

[thorn shale]

it's been 7 days guys where's the rewrds? thanks for the hard work ❤️

[thorn salmon]

@thorn shale ever heard of wg not working on weekends

[thorn shale]

no😀

[empty phoenix]

They said up to 14 business days have some patience

[thorn shale]

Can u be patient guys xd

[pliant peak]

Ofc not : P

[west vessel]

hi

[thorn salmon]

Idk what patient is sry kekw

[young furnace]

Havent heard of that word before

[winter swallow]

BPC#1 paid rewards within 24 hours to 30 players. It took one person 2 hours to do. For comparison.

[chilly hemlock]

Don’t they spend a week figuring out if people cheated first?

I’m sorry. I didn’t phrase that well. Obviously only some cheating actually matters. Like account sharing with ip searching

[fallen leaf]

I mean, if they're confident enough to announce winners in an announcement, they should be confident enough to hand out rewards...Otherwise, saying "oh, here are the placements despite some teams having cheating players" sounds really bad.

[thorn shale]

I didn't get moneyz 😭 😭😭

[steel shell]

honestly this could be done faster as well for example after the first day of tournament, 4 teams were knocked out so wg could start checking those teams immediately, the same goes for then knocked out 4th team, 3rd etc

[chilly hemlock]

I really don’t get why they don’t check as the tournament goes on. Maybe not in live time but the day after. If they did they could make things way easier and have near instant dqs/fixes

[glass thunder]

Yes but they should save scripts so next time they don’t do all manually (well that why i do in my work if ik i will need to do same task again). Only if they manually check

[tawdry inlet]

In spring it took wg 5days to send all rewards

[modest whale]

In summer it took infinitydays to punish clans for rigging

[chilly hemlock]

Infinity implies that all clans involved would eventually be punished… which we know didn’t and won’t happen

[fallen leaf]

I mean, I’m not surprised it’s taking longer because Lower Echelon also needs to be checked. But I am disappointed.

[fresh lance]

I just want my wolf avatar 😩

[odd wolf]

yeah i bet if there was no lower echelon in game rewards would have prob been out by now

[tawdry inlet]

Oh yeah I forgot this existed but yes it's probably because of that and there is like double the amount of player to check xD

[modest whale]

True mb

[chilly hemlock]

Lol

[steel shell]

xD imagine someone gets banned for cheating in lower echelon

[spark pumice]

sporting sherman

[elder coral]

Lower echelon is the most important and impressive award don’t @ me

[tame bone]

@chilly hemlock are they still checking that? I thought they already released the banned players list

[chilly hemlock]

Idk. I thought they did that for top 8 and not 4?

[fallen leaf]

The banned player list has people from Top16, so I’m guessing they checked it already? But lower echelon I’m not sure.

[winter swallow]

Sometimes.

[steel shell]

i think that the list which was released contained people who cheated in qualification, now they are checking if someone cheated in the tournament itself

[tame bone]

Oh right

[odd wolf]

yeah that was qualifiers

[proud holly]

Day 7:

[modest whale]

Day 7: go to bed na server.

[elder coral]

this is great btw. whoever made this is a legend

[flat goblet]

Not as good as “gamer falling chair” gif

[proud holly]

i just had to use imgflip

[glad sphinx]

😂

[patent quartz]

IP searching isn't the way to go as people can move (it's been my case last month and i didnt get anything for it), i think there's something with MAC adress for the checkings

[steel shell]

Yeah they have to check everything

[hexed quiver]

I'm setting up a tourney (tier will be picked by votes) if anyone wants to join you can dm or ping me I will need your in game name also I will personally invite players that I'd like to have on my team if we get to many players the will be a second team looking for good players

[grim blade]

Would be interesting to know what and how they exactly check, but I assume they will keep it secret. I can only assume they log ip address, serial number device, location, login / logoff timestamps, duration, and surely all in game movements will be logged. Then I would analyse / monitor for patterns, especially around and during tournaments and analyse that against 'normal past' behaviour of a particular player over the logdata they already have collected. Detecting account sharing is difficult and time consuming, and probably not water tight, but with the analysis mentioned, they will be able to check and detect most.

[steel shell]

they have a log with ips and devices from where you log in, then they check if you are logging from those ips/devices frequently and they assume its your place and devices, for example i play on ipad but sometimes i check game stuff on my phone and it never was a problem

[grim blade]

Indeed, the analysis or algorithm need to take into account different devices, travelling, vpn's etc.

[wet tide]

I moved from hotel to hotel during the season, and didn’t get banned for it so ye
It would be horrible like that, so am happy with 1 thing not messed up xd

[dapper vigil]

Hopefully they check IP, device, and the time it was when the account was logged in

[proud holly]

Mega Rayquaza 😩

[dapper vigil]

Hopefully soon

[primal talon]

Looks like a shiny to me,since the mega Evolution has a different Pose and design

[thorn shale]

day 342342314234321 of praying to wg that they fix the glitch where invites to qts and season coins dont work 🙏

[orchid spear]

I like tournaments!

[elder coral]

i like rewards, too bad i dont have any yet

[thorn salmon]

Ye its a shiny not a mega

[covert stump]

When's the tourney player to team invitations going to be fixed .?

[magic kraken]

Probably before they hand the rewards out

[supple hearth]

Nah lol

[dapper vigil]

Yep it’s just a normal shiny rayquaza

[grim trellis]

MAC addresses can be easily spoofed depending on the devices

[hexed quiver]

I'm setting up a tourney (tier will be tier x ) if anyone wants to join you can dm or ping me I will need your in game name also I will personally invite players that I'd like to have on my team if we get to many players the will be a second team

[thorn shale]

Rewards are out

[elder coral]

🧢

[fallen leaf]

Anyone else on ASIA that can confirm or deny?

[gilded marsh]

if rewards were out, knopka or a wg employee would’ve posted the ban list

[odd tangle]

I just got my rewards on Asia

[elder coral]

oh baby

[halcyon cove]

Can confirm

[fallen leaf]

If all our friends on ASIA can confirm it, then we get ours soon too! ~
Also, is there a ban list? Maybe ASIA forums?

[tardy bay]

Can you please not ban me?

[modest whale]

I agree with kJIy6Hu4ka. Please do not ban me either.

[proud holly]

Day 8:

[fallow turret]

I like tournaments

[terse perch]

Tournaments are fun and engaging

[rocky crystal]

I like to win tournaments

[rough tusk]

It's not out

[tardy bay]

I like this server a lot, thank you moderators for all the hardwork you put in to make this server the best it can be.

[upper oar]

@tardy bay 😩

[candid lance]

They are out

[thorn shale]

Rewards will be out on the 19th of August

note that 14 business days is a funny way to say 3 weeks because a business day is Monday-Friday and weekends don’t count so it’s just 3 weeks

I expect my rewards on 19th august 😔

[steel shell]

Last fall they delivered it on last possible day 😄

[thorn shale]

They’ll do it again this time too

[thorn shale]

I’m just excited to get the pro blue camo, I never thought I’d get one of those ones, I’ve been playing tournaments on Asia for just over a year now, 4 pro tours later now I’m one of those pro dudes

[candid lance]

hm

[thorn shale]

But I’m happy with all the friends I’ve made too, wouldn’t trade that for anything

Heart warming asf

[odd tangle]

maybe the real tournaments were the friends we made along the way

[thorn shale]

it’s ok I’ll trade for that camo

wtf I said I’m worth a camo not for you to give me a Ted Talk dude

Like I wouldn’t have been so committed to this if it wasn’t for all the mates I have and have made here, I couldn’t imagine playing on a team with people I didn’t like, that’d kill me

[thorn salmon]

Facts 😭 @thorn shale

[thorn shale]

Wholesome

[candid lance]

mwah

[thorn shale]

hello WG??? it been 10 days and still no rewards for professional tournament???? is this supposed to be a joke or what????

[modest whale]

they said 15 working days

[thorn salmon]

Reading isnt hard buddy, they clearly said that the rewards will come withing 14 working days (working days are monday - friday if u dont know what it is) @thorn shale

[odd tangle]

What's the rush?

[candid lance]

its a joke how much patience you have

[thorn shale]

haha, last spring they came out in 4 days and everything was absolutely fine, but now it's going to take the full 14 days if not more 🥱🥱 it's not about patience or whatever but how lazy WG is this season 💤😴

[tame bone]

…maybe go touch some grass?

[scenic thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[vivid glen]

yum yum

[halcyon cove]

wow so pro

[steel shell]

Its 6th working day out of 14

[supple hearth]

in winter rewards came in 15 days, so sit back and relax @thorn shale

[burnt glacier]

Players who asking season rewards be like

[vital obsidian]

Dont complain ace comp avatar is due over one month now

[steel shell]

No1 cares about ace comp tho

[chilly hemlock]

First time?

[tawdry inlet]

dude since there is the lower echelon tournament aswell the number of player is twice as big as it was in spring

[dapper vigil]

Today makes 6 days, not 10

[thorn shale]

with lower there is more checks and more rewards and that not 10 days since weekend is not work day for wg so just stop complaining about rewards and wait for it complains won't help wg

[final mortar]

Why so desperate? If you played, soon or later you'll receive the rewards, wg never forgot to give that to each player bruh

[gilded marsh]

Hey guys, I’m sure many of us here are really excited to receive and use the Lower Echelon Avatar, but let’s be patient here.

[tardy bay]

Maybe if you guys didnt break tournament rules they wouldnt take so long to check them!

[terse perch]

Please follow tournament rules everyone.

[modest whale]

What are you talking about. MJ followed all tournament regulations.

[tardy bay]

Good. We need more clans like MJ.

[peak terrace]

Malding about not receiving rewards 💀

[tawdry inlet]

I don't think they are taking this long to give the rewards because of rules violations, but because there is twice as many player to give rewards to

[tardy bay]

Hey

[fast hare]

スパイロ#8259 was muted

[supple hearth]

WhErEs mY rEwArdS

[final mortar]

Day 6 seeing people asking for the ReWaRdS 😎

[candid lance]

You don’t have your rewards?

[next trellis]

Amogus

[undone rapids]

Vn hello

[vivid glen]

Amogus

[proud holly]

Day 9:

[elder coral]

still one of the best blitz memes i have seen yet

[novel yoke]

Where are my stream keys?

[tulip finch]

thats the real important question right there^^

[sly axle]

I can’t imagine these people when they get a job and are waiting on their paycheck

[thorn shale]

but wheres my keys

[formal drift]

a thing is, ace clan challenge rewards were promised to be given within a certain deadline and now weeks past it wargaming still hasn't said a word about it. so yes certain people have a right to be worried about their rewards for summer season

[calm atlas]

Wargaming had hope people will forget about ace challenge so they dont need to send rewards👀

[formal drift]

but there will be an absolute nuclear explosion in #859764617311813653 if avatar isn't added to the game and given shortly after 8.2 release

[primal talon]

Its day 7 my dude

[thorn shale]

Didn’t the tournament finish July 31st? This makes it day 10

[pliant peak]

14 **working **days (monday-friday)

[thorn shale]

Yes, that’s correct

[glass thunder]

@muted ore @frosty nexus hello. Will we have some tournaments others than qt’s before twister ?

[gray pond]

^

[shy sun]

I think wg wanna make us some kind of surprise and give us the summer season rewards combined with autumn season rewards. More like prepare for trouble and make it double

[frosty nexus]

@glass thunderyes, we're planning some classic tournaments soon

[candid lance]

It’s day 7. Working Days

[thorn shale]

Well yes in working days

[calm atlas]

I would like to see global map in blitz like in Wot PC😩

[thorn shale]

Blitz dev team had a stroke with silver tournaments, theres no way in hell they’d pull off that

[candid lance]

Ok bro

[steel shell]

😂🤣

[thorn shale]

if they made a global map i expect my cups to be deducted every time we finish a tour because of "technical issues" or a team doing some exploit

we'll get league rankings in single digit cups

[past marlin]

Komedian

[fallen leaf]

Is there a set time of day that WG would hand out rewards?

[vagrant thicket]

When would you do it if you were working for them

[odd wolf]

usually around 11am est

[steel shell]

i think its usually in the afternoon close to evening

[supple hearth]

Last time it was 11 est

[steel shell]

yeah that sounds right

[fallen leaf]

Ah, 11 PM EST?

[steel shell]

yeah, evening in belarus

[elder coral]

In every job I’ve had, there was a date when I would get my paycheck and that schedule never faltered. WG inspires me with as much confidence as I have in the Pittsburg Pirates’ abilities to tag first base when there are two outs.

[chilly hemlock]

Not gonna lie, Pittsburgh Pirates to wg is a very accurate metaphor in general

[harsh ember]

I know nothing about baseball but I assume the Pittsburg pirates ability to tag first when there are two outs is pretty awful

[chilly hemlock]

All you have to do is take the obvious choice and step on the base. You don’t even need to tag them. Most 8 year olds know that lol

[narrow meteor]

8 year olds> Pittsburg Pirates

[sly axle]

LOL 😂 this comment made my day

[orchid spear]

I like tournaments!

[modest whale]

same.

[thorn shale]

I love Paris!
It's a cool place to play blitz.

[supple hearth]

Where’s my rewards tough fr 🤬

[gray pond]

sorry, no reward for ya

[proud holly]

Day 10:

[gilded marsh]

As much as I want to receive and use my Lower Echelon avatar, I am waiting patiently for my rewards. There is no use in complaining for rewards as that will not make them come quicker.

[fallen leaf]

I am far more excited to receive the rare currency known as "credits". I hear they allow one to receive new tanks and even pay for pay-to-win ammunition like HEAT, so I can enhance my tournament performance using skill ammunition.

[upper oar]

y’all really got nothing better to do

i mean, honestly. not saying to stop but it is true

[proud holly]

Yes

[remote mountain]

8*

[thorn shale]

Where reward???😡🤬
I have waiting for many 8 day🤯😭
Reward is not here yet😭😢
Please I need to feed my family😤

[candid lance]

No one cares

[thorn shale]

Man, people must love you at parties

[upbeat iris]

As they would love you? Stop asking for rewards seriously.. there is a deadline for them to keep and as long as that hasn’t passed, there is no reason to complain.

[grim shadow]

Last one was joking tho

[thorn shale]

How could, you not see, I was joking, you brick

[tulip finch]

that was pretty obvious yeah xD

[tame bone]

…chill he was joking.

[upbeat iris]

Well the majority doesn’t, my bad 🤡

[thorn shale]

I even tried my best to make it look like a joke too

[tulip finch]

that emoji spam of woman in thier 40s or 50s

[upbeat iris]

Ye and I ignore most posts on rewards but I must have had a bad moment and I completely missed it 🤡

[thorn shale]

I just got my rewards

Nah it’s all good man, it’s pretty funny seeing people complain, like Wargaming has said 14 business days

[proud holly]

10

[gilded marsh]

business days

[remote mountain]

14 WORKING days

[proud holly]

10 🙂

[thorn shale]

It hasn’t been 10 working days dude, it’s been 8

[tame bone]

Of course the little children don’t understand the difference between ‘days’ and ‘working days’

[wet tide]

What is working? Is it something I’m too much roblox for to understand?

[thorn shale]

Lower Echelon rewards out

not sure if I’m just disqualified from rewards or challengers hasn’t gotten theirs

Edit: Lower Echelon has been given out, rest of the leagues waiting

🧢

[tulip finch]

petition to make the ones saying 10 working days work on weekends for the rest of thier life

[thorn shale]

Rewards are here (challengers)

Wow

[tepid trout]

Yep this time not a joke xd

[tame bone]

pHoToShOp

[rough tusk]

no theyre here for real

[warm slate]

F

[thorn shale]

new avatar looks kinda trash

[primal talon]

Grats

[thorn salmon]

Got it aswell

[gray pond]

I guess when u install new avatars, they are not visible for others. They look like the old ones for others.

[tame bone]

Wait a lil

[livid hare]

Same problem here, i have received only old challenger avatar and that’s all

[gleaming schooner]

It will come

[gray pond]

Just wait. My friend also had this problem but it was fixed after 15 minutes.

[subtle hornet]

Where is the moneyyyyyyy

[gray pond]

no money 😠

[primal talon]

It looks pretty :)

[rocky crystal]

Its out guys

[odd wolf]

100% NOT CAP (thank u WG)

[formal drift]

New one isn't bad but in practise the details are too small and older one is just more suited I think

[modest whale]

No the new one is very bad

[glass thunder]

New pro one looks fine noobs doesn’t know it so u don’t get focused do hard

[low badger]

Is there a ban list yet?

[modest whale]

new pro avatar literally has the word "pro" on it
@thorn shale no the point is there's no difference both gonna get you tunneled

[tame bone]

so the real question is....

...when rewards?

[thorn shale]

The other one also did XD?

[terse perch]

Xd

[supple hearth]

@muted ore why did no one receive the professional badge in achievements? Nvm, I already know the answer

[gray pond]

I wonder when will we get rewards for Autumn season

[fresh lance]

They're out already

[tame bone]

It was a joke bruv

[rocky crystal]

They still havent given me the keys yet smh

[steel shell]

they found out its useless 😄

[fallen leaf]

Thanks WG! And congratulations to everyone who played!

[supple hearth]

I don’t understand what’s the point of giving the old and the new pro avatars

[candid lance]

Because it’s the last season of the old one and the first of the new one. After this season it’s only the new

[tame bone]

Cuz from now on it will just be the new ones

[unkempt pelican]

New one looks like very ordinary. If I choose between two avatar. Anytime old one is best one. Old is always gold.

[fresh lance]

Hi, i noticed that recently several tournaments in NA have been played starting off from 10 PM est.. is there a possibility this is going to be the schedule for fall season? Or is it just for this inter-season tournaments? @muted ore

P.S. Sorry for the ping

[proud holly]

Final Day:

[rocky crystal]

lol i was waiting for u to post something

[sweet kite]

🙌

[young furnace]

Ur not the real one G 😔

[hidden crescent]

Elo

[proud holly]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829093250957705257/875248034257199194/unknown.png

[graceful jetty]

I like the red car, sorry jeremy

[frosty nexus]

@fresh lancehello, usually tournaments start at 18:00 PT / 21:00 ET. Next season the start time will be the same.

[thorn shale]

Hahaha expect for Australia, o7 10PM start time

[thorn shale]

Have a tish mate

[candid lance]

😿

[thorn shale]

@muted ore (sorry for the ping)

will the autumn season top 8/16 be the old system where everyone plays against everyone once and top 4 is k.o.
or the "new" one since winter where it's k.o. from the start?

[onyx merlin]

autumn season, September 1th?

[jade hornet]

They said it will be later than last year

[final mortar]

Idunno who are you, but you made my day omg hahsha

[muted ore]

@thorn shale Hi. Unfortunately, I can't announce the details of the season right now.

[twilit kernel]

Hey

[next trellis]

What do I do if I haven't gotten my rewards yet

[elder coral]

Ticket?

[next trellis]

Yes obviously a ticket but idk what department I would contact

[harsh quail]

Did you play 3 tournaments

[supple hearth]

Oops

[glass thunder]

3 bronze tournaments *

[tardy bay]

I like the new pro avatar. I want to add it to my collection next season.

[next trellis]

It's aight

[rare trellis]

shut up fero

[tardy bay]

I sold my GMA avatar as a joke, is there any way I can get it back?

[gray pond]

Challengers avatar is way better than Pro

[narrow meteor]

Nah, the new pro avatar is cold y’all just hating

[primal talon]

New challenger looks really bad compared to New pro

[candid lance]

The pro one is supposed to look better lol

[thorn shale]

new challenger is just lower echelon avatar with some leaves on it, gj on effort wg

[modest whale]

I have a lower echelon avatar and all my friends think I am cool.

[twilit kernel]

Oh

[supple hearth]

stop being so sarcastic, its actually pissing me off

[rare trellis]

ok yaro

[unkempt pelican]

New avatar not good its look like ordinary but old one is best. Check both images.

[fresh lance]

Challengers new one looks better than the pro one but old one still looks better

[unkempt pelican]

Yes I agree with you.

[supple hearth]

imagine running pro avatar lmao

[primal talon]

Old challenger looks best out of All the tournament avatars imo

[ancient fiber]

👍 🎧 👥 🎮 👋 😂

[proud holly]

you good dude?

[modest whale]

Yaro was just being sarcastic!

[tardy bay]

@supple hearth Youre a joker!

[digital widget]

I called you a bot in a game once

@ancient fiber is ur pfp the guy from fortnite

[thorn shale]

Hi guys , who have contacts with captains other top8 team. Thx for answer

[tardy bay]

Hi guys , who have contacts with captains other top8 team. Thx for answer

[terse perch]

👽

[digital widget]

Why same message teice

[winged saffron]

If my avatar isn’t solid gold with the word “PRO” on it, I don’t want it
I need it to be obnoxious as possible

[thick elk]

I agree battlebeast

[thorn shale]

That’s the whole point of the pro avatar, to be easy to see, loud and obnoxious

[novel bay]

😐

[elder coral]

i would just like to thank WG for getting rewards out allowing me to use this really awesome avatar a soon as possible

[candid lance]

k

[thorn shale]

Sick avatar bro

[digital widget]

Hum

[supple hearth]

Bro, so nothing is better?

[elder coral]

this avatar is the greatest thing in the world what more could i want

[jade hornet]

based

[fresh lance]

Wolf avatar xd they've taken enough time for me to start thinking it's gonna be PBR or animated or something omr les go

[gray pond]

wut

[proud holly]

yes

[rocky crystal]

agree

[jade hornet]

here it looks good but with the blue edge idk

[tulip finch]

The edges on avatars ruin quite a few of them imo
Maybe not ruin but make them look less good imo

[twilit kernel]

@tardy bay Are you blink? 😟

[twilit kernel]

Heeey 👋

[slim socket]

Please keep this channel tournament-related

[untold tinsel]

shut up 😐

[novel bay]

@untold tinsel

[tardy bay]

Hey lad

[violet sentinel]

.

[ancient shard]

@novel bay Keep the channel on topic. Don’t make me ping the moderators.

[rapid shard]

@ancient shard Keep the channel on topic. Don't make me make you ping the moderators.

[scenic gyro]

@rapid shard Keep the channel on topic. Don't make me make you ping the moderators.

[thorn shale]

The time has come execute order 66

[winged saffron]

The time has come to execute myself

[rapid shard]

@scenic gyro Keep the channel on topic. Don't make me make you make me ping the moderators.

[thorn shale]

@muted ore @frosty nexus Hello. when are we going to know more about Blitz Cup? If im not mistaken it will start in 1 month (Maybe a bit more) I think its time you guys give us some information about it... Thanks

[candid lance]

They will release it soon lol chill

[fallow turret]

They said it starts later than normal

[candid lance]

Mid September ish

[fresh lance]

Mid September is in one month, and I'm just gonna say that these schedule/battling system surprises were not well received by the comp community.. so yeah..

[modest whale]

You don't need tournament information you just need to know MJ will win this year's blitz cup

[tepid island]

@proud holly what da dog doin?

[proud holly]

deez

[gray pond]

Maybe we can expect new profile background for professional tournaments in next season?

[calm atlas]

Background with clan logo for top4 in blitz cup , there is avatar so why not background

[sinful crest]

Genius idea, although I don’t see it happening. It would be so nice though.

[gray pond]

Although the King of the Hills background is really cool, but I think it is a good time for something newer ...

[thorn shale]

im chilling? i just asked one question whats your problem XD "lol chill" sorry for trying to know schedules etc lmao

[steel shell]

@thorn shale i think i somewhere saw that it will starts in the end of September

[thorn shale]

ik it starts mid-end september as i said in my first message ⬆️ . Idc about when it starts, i want to know format, schedule, etc

[vivid glen]

among us in real life 😳

[vital obsidian]

@muted ore Would it be possible to consider 3 non region players in autumn major tour (instead of 2), it would help the cw scene to improve

[thorn shale]

i think 2 its better

[burnt glacier]

@thorn shale lol yeah when you have full Spanish team
Better to say that you don't care yk

[thorn shale]

i dont have full spanish team and if i had it doesnt matter. 3 players can make a big difference at the battle, thats why 2 is a better number... every1 should be thankful WG changed their mind and let 2 players outside the server play in 1 team, since at the start they didnt want a single player doing this

[glass thunder]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/GNRtuDODxN9A8UxZM4GxZnqiLLvbjhoLrvU2H6-XvdE/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/857755987808092160/871661110279929887/unknown.png

[burnt glacier]

How 3 players can make difference instead of 2?
By your words it sounds like 1 more player from different region is more cheating.
Thx for what?)))) For not ruining big tournaments more? Ah thank you WG. In case European community all the time has lots of players from different region.
This rule just ruined lots of team. So we can see not so many team in each season since WG realised this rule in comparing to previous seasons.

[thorn shale]

I dont think u understand. 3 is more than 2. So 3 makes more difference than 2.
Imagine 3 7STARS players in one EU team. That team chances of winning the tournament would go very high.
Imagine 2 7STARS players in one EU team. The team chances of winning would go high, but not as high as last example.

I dont know if u understand. Eu server is for eu players. Na server for na. Etc

Its fine (and i like) that they let 2 non server residers play in one team. But what i mean is that 3 is an excessive number

And actually best EU teams are mostly made of EU players (if u look at the recent top 4). I can only think about whopz as exception. So… there were no big teams ruined xdd only teams made of 7 ru players were ruined xd

[burnt glacier]

No comments to this genius example with 7STARS, its just face palm.
Just one my adding to this, ye CIS player with everytime getting TOP-4, TOP-8 will decide to play in Europe server where they have to learn language cause they want PRO avatar on both server (sounds retarded).
Best EU team stopped consist from CIS or so players from the moment when WG included this rule about 2 non-region. So watch teams before it rule. Your example is suitable for your position with Whoopze. Teams like Souls(at Autumn and Winter),IMMOR, Loca,BPS- had 2 CIS players in each season (may be not at all seasons after this rule) not cause they can't find more good players but they can't include more cause of rule.
And tell me any team which take TOP-8 and was consist of TOP-8 CIS players (even 3). I remember NAVIN 2 years before only. But problem was that at this time WG didn't check sharing of acc.
So this rule not killing potential players from CIS Top-8 teams players in EU teams but killing non-region players from EU.
Last your point about only ru teams as well wrong. Remember First alliance.

[thorn shale]

ye NAV1N the team that got 0 points at top 8 xDD best example ever. they for sure ruined this team omg they were top 1... wg man.... XDD

And u are wrong about immor loca bps- each season with 2 cis players btw, i will stop talking to u, got better things to do, cya

[burnt glacier]

Example about Navin was about your statement that team in Europe can consist from Top-8 CIS players. Imagine joking on yourself statement.
I wrote that may be not at all season but most. Learn to read.
Example where it were only ru players -1-, But ok.

[thorn shale]

"learn to read" well if u edit that stuff what i should do xDD im not going to read ur bible again and again homie

[twilit kernel]

I am a player from the CIS. What is your argument here?)

[burnt glacier]

Wrote it with sentence about "each season" btw
And ye cause you are not answering on my arguement (I guess you will say that I edit everything) there is no sense in discussing cause you can't answer on it, but trying to change point of it which will be suitable for your position.
Cya.

[thorn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/xue-hua-piao-piao-bei-feng-xiao-xiao-tian-di-yi-pian-chang-mao-egg-sing-pr0phet-gif-18335064

[steel shell]

Allow 7 or you know what? 7 is still not enough so make it 10 non region players in team 😏

[thorn shale]

ye man, actually just delete all servers and make 1 for all, lets gooo

Why don't RU players play on CIS serv

[twilit kernel]

🤡

[analog osprey]

Xd 2 are enough. Play in your own server firstly

[thorn shale]

Dasilva 🙏

[winter swallow]

I think 2 is enough. The main purpose of the rule is to facilitate individuals to play tournaments in their main server despite their personal geolocation falling outside the official server country list.

2x slots per team rule is to enable players like Whoopzie who only ever played in EU server, to play comp on EU server.

It is not meant to facilitate creation of CIS comp teams on EU server and vice versa.

(IMO)

[steel shell]

Agree

[wet tide]

Imagine what would happen if all servers would join together and the top teams face eachother xddd
Complete chaos lmao

[forest matrix]

I would rather propose to reduce to 1 instead

[tulip finch]

you mean a pre corona twister cup 🤣

[wet tide]

Nah but then with all top8/top16/top32s fighting eachother

[atomic tartan]

it's not gonna be chaos, most of the teams are total fodder next to the champions in their servers anyway. based on blitz cup 2020, the only point it gets interesting is the top 3 teams in contention for grand finals, being RGN EG and MERCY. also based on blitz cup 2020, all 3 regions have somewhat of a parity based on the champions being roughly equal to each other, so the 2nd placed teams wouldn't be title contenders in another server either

all of the champions also completely demolished (5-2 5-2 5-1) the 2nd place teams in the grand finals so i really don't think having 2nd place teams in the mix would add anything of value. for example C4 would not only have to beat MERCY which they lost 5-1 to, they now also have to figure out how to beat EG and RGN as well to contend for outright winner. had the scores been 5-4 and the teams at the top were somewhat even, then it would be worthwhile

so what you really end up with, based on blitz cup 2020 at least, is just a Twister Cup lol

[winter swallow]

An online format with players from around the globe is constrained by timezones and servers (ping, packetloss, hamsters, etc.)

It would require significant investment from WG to pull off.

As they say in the gangster movies: forget about it

[rare trellis]

wg servers struggle to cope already, imagine an intercontinental interserver championship. i think that would be quite frankly awful

[thorn shale]

C4 would beat rgn. And i think they would also beat eg, but close games for sure.

Actually all top 4 ru teams (and prob top 8 ones aswell) would do same “path “as c4

[atomic tartan]

i love your sense of humor

[thorn shale]

U think rgn would beat top 4 ru teams?

Thats sense of humour homie

[atomic tartan]

we literally beat MERCY in 2019 playing a meta that didn't fit us. like hello?

what are your credentials again? did you even win enough times in EU to face any RU team in a proper tournament, let alone win? real sense of humor is you thinking you have half a clue what you're on about before you go insulting other servers

[thorn shale]

K listen

Mercy didnt have their core 7. Same as EG that year. Those teams were missing like 3-4 important players.

To continue, NA never beated an ru/eu team when they got their core 7. And its a fact. Just look at all tourneys.

When NA teams beated ru/eu ones were when this teams missed 3-6 core players.

Man im sorry but im speaking facts.

Top 4 ru with their core 7 would easily beat RGN with core 7. And they would also beat EU teams. At least, i accept it

Edit: a lot of na players accept they are behind compared to ru/eu. Same as eu accepts ru is better. Why u cant do the same XD

U beated eg with 3 core players, mercy with 3 core players also, wow, gamers. Go beat them with their core 7….

Rgn is good team, but u guys should accept who u can win and who not.

[atomic tartan]

okay, heres a fact. how about you win your server, go to Twister, beat an RU team in a major tournament, and then come back and talk to me, hmmm?

cuz between the two of us only one has done the above it and it sure as hell isn't you. until then you can enjoy your alternate facts to yourself

[steel shell]

this is just "XD"

[green plover]

You must be trolling or on something

[limber lintel]

Uhm he is right about the core player thing tbh, so I will back him up on that

Only the facts that mercy and EG werent with their 7 core, nothing else

[thorn shale]

I would like u to tell me which thing did i say wrong there

Dragonkrieg: im sorry i never won on EU, at least I accept it. U should start accepting things aswell.

For example as caller of top 3 eu team rn i can easily admit we cant beat any top 4 ru team.
Ur turn to admit the same bro

[odd wolf]

🍿

[atomic tartan]

core player is a nice excuse. PRAMO did not have core 3 in 2016 and 2017 yet you don't see excuse about that. and somehow you think NA of all people showed up to Minsk with their core 7 while EU and RU managed not to.

you accept it because losing seems to be all you know considering you never even went to Minsk (yet for some odd reason think you're qualified to make such ridiculous statements like this). do you think anyone wins by accepting they're worse? you've lost before you even started.

that goes for the same NA players that admit they're behind EU/RU. not a single one of them actually went to Twister. i don't know what kinda donkeys you've been hanging around but part of me doubts any of them were past winners

you should accept that you're totally out of your depth on this subject. perhaps focus on beating EU first, then come back yeah?

[green orchid]

🙈

[young furnace]

This is getting interesting

[thorn shale]

Ye k gl with mercy ggame c4 7stars. Ur is4 meta will make them sweat. I see ur only statement is that i never won.
:( unlucky i am sorry man i missclicked

NA top 1 with core 7 vs top 1,2,3,4 RU core 7. Ru will win.
This hurts ur ego? SoRrY

[limber lintel]

I think there is a general concensus that CIS is the best server, I think most people will admit and agree on this, then there is some disagreement wether or not NA and EU are equal or EU is better, but to say NA or EU are as good as CIS is ignorant realistically,

I dont mean this in an offensive way just my opinion on the matter

[green plover]

If that’s your defense to what he said this argument is pointless and you should look for attention elsewhere or put time into you getting your team at a top 4 spot yourself before you start speaking like you’re a top tier player. 🐒

[green orchid]

@green plover what happened to ur veteran role 🥺

[atomic tartan]

and your expertise on the subject is? "most people" also never faced a single EU/RU team, or went to Twister. which donkey are you getting your opinions from and then trying to apply it to the top of the field?

@thorn shale it doesn't hurt my ego cuz i can care less what some random who never won thinks. i'm not replying to change your mind, i'm replying for everyone else that reads this channel to see more than just CiS iS tHe BeSt SeRvEr. like jesus man what does ivan's boot taste like?

[thorn shale]

Bro i made top 3 winter, top 2 spring and top 3 summer. Being caller and main light tank player of 2 of those teams.

So ye, i got into top 4, several times.
Inform yourself before speaking

@atomic tartan all u care about is if ppl went to minsk XD. We can see how teams play thanks to the streams. Compare metas on the servers, players…

[limber lintel]

Have you done anything but try and personally attack people, or trying to ask for a qualification of us, which doesnt dismantle the actual argument, if you want to debate stuff, pls stay somewhat professional

I havent personally attacked you, you shouldnt attack me now, the fact you are so quick to agression makes you think you are in denial, ;)

[potent field]

RGN vs JON3S scrim when?

[novel bay]

https://tenor.com/view/tranquillo-tranquilla-tranquille-tranquilli-va-tutto-bene-gif-13972745

[atomic tartan]

so wheres the 1st place?

i think we're all adequately informed here, thanks

@limber lintel i asked you perfectly valid questions. if you're getting your information from people that don't know what they're on about then any conclusion you make from them is invalid. immediately swapping to being defensive without providing answers suggests you're the one in denial. now once again, what are your qualifications on the subject?

you wouldn't take medical advice from facebook posts and youtube videos now, would you?

[green plover]

My first season 2018 Big game team iykyk clapped Eu scene only fell short in the finals get outa here with that winter season flex 🤣🤣🤣 go ask your papi zird about me 🥱

[green orchid]

it ceases to amaze me how much degeneracy this channel can offer, i lose braincells reading the opinions of some people as a mere spectator. 🥱

[wintry hound]

Has NA won any offline yet?

[thorn shale]

Hi. R2K missed like 4 core. Back to the same. U never won any eu/ru when having core 7. Anyways gj winning that i guess.
If u want to remember wins here i come: x2 twister for EU, x2 twister for RU. 0 NA

Also @atomic tartan ye i never won but i can still watch teams gameplay thanks to streams. Ppl just compare NA meta to EU/RU and it already feels this 2 servers are ahead. Anyways i wont hurt ur egos anymore…

[atomic tartan]

so....a rehash of cOrE pLaYeRs and whatever voodoo streams you're watching because you're so qualified to make conclusions from them. nice one. my ego is so hurt. oh no.

@wintry hound pramo beat r2k in 2018.

[green plover]

If you consider the one you watched in PRAMO vc 😂
@thorn shale we didn’t have our core for 2018

[limber lintel]

First of all, the twister 2019 results are obsolete, they are from 2 years ago, to look at them now and use those results to say what server is better now is just crazy,

To ask for my highest position on my server is asking for my qualifications, which doesnt actually disarm my argument that if you watch EU, NA and CIS gameplay, you can just see by the way teams operate that CIS just moves so much more fluidly around the map

And you also have yet to dismantle the argument that EG and MERCY were missing a lot of core players at twister 2019, this part of the discussion is pointless even cus 2 years is an eternity for meta and team improvement, to use it as an argument is meh

But this discussion is pointless, just learn how to have a proper debate some time if you could (I dont mean this in an offensive way)

[thorn shale]

Ye u had maybe the bench players or even 1 outside the team. R2K had like 4 from outside the team. Its a bit different

I would love to see RU top 4 players reaction to this XDDD

[potent field]

Does Seattle mobile master count as a offline? Cause if so NA had 2 teams and pramo/rgn won henceforth NA has won a offline

[wintry hound]

Ah that tournament, forgot about that one xd

@green plover Moeee ❤️ I dont remember dfq xd was ages ago

[solid pine]

Well it does disarm your argument. Since u have no idea how the comp landscape feels/looks. Any person could watch the streams and formulate a wildly inaccurate opinion. Just cuz u can watch a stream doesn’t make u qualified to determine what server would do well in a heavy meta twister

[atomic tartan]

wow driving speed boost tanks makes gameplay look more fluid. you got any more expert analysis?

i thought i told you no one had their core 7. did you see naser or watea anywhere for RGN?

@thorn shale "i would love to see RU top 4 players reaction to this" jesus christ man when i asked you what ivan's boot tastes like i didn't mean go throat in another lick. and then you wonder why you're not first XDDDDD

[green plover]

We had 3 subs? LMAO go away kid you’re picking pointless pp fights Bc you have nothing better to do and want some attention go do something better with your time 🤣
@wintry hound how you been bb it’s been a while 🙂

[thorn shale]

I never wondered why im not first XDD. Im happy with my results comparing the teams i faced in each season.

Anyways, rgn best team in the world.

Keep the ego high guys, gn

[solid pine]

Gotta love your typical EU players being high and mighty defending the pride of a team they never played on 💀

@harsh ember where there’s one, there’s 20 more in the shadows

[harsh ember]

not typical. just this guy

[green orchid]

watch it

[atomic tartan]

well, at least one of us actually plays to and does consistently finish 1st. good night with whatever RU top 4 players you're slumming it with. have fun ;))

[narrow meteor]

Stop hating on the goat Migol

[thorn shale]

Waitwait, let me ask one last thing. Who am I defending XDD wtf

I have no relation with ru players unluckily @atomic tartan

Anywaysssss i guess na is the best server. 🙏

Have a good evening all

[slim blade]

cis server lol

[wintry hound]

good good, playing some blitz here and there whenever internet isnt bad xdddd and you?

[tulip finch]

Weren't the last few tours on EU pretty dead and that's why so many never before seen clans went into top spots that they usually never reach ?
The only 2 well known clans participating were loca and EG- the others ones died or split up
Mind I'm not really keeping track of that and I'm not a comp player
I don't get the cis thingy either wasn't RU fairly disappointing the last time they had a twister cup?
Cuz that's what I remembered

[narrow meteor]

@green orchid what is your opinion on this matter feller

[limber lintel]

RU literallynwon the last twister cup, EU teams skipped summer because of the schedule, but i already see a lot of these teams reforming, like R3TI for example, trust me, EU didnt die for sure, they moved clans, but the level of play didnt drop, not for the top8 at least, top16 might be considered a different story for some

[atomic tartan]

"unluckily"? so you don't even know these people? jesus christ man

you know what how about your keep your passive aggressive well wishes to yourself and actually just go to sleep or something? hopefully you're feeling more sane in the morning

@tulip finch long story short, 7STAR came up with the Prog meta in 2019 and won for RU. WG then buffed all the heavies in 2020 slowing down the meta by a lot with Krans IS-4s and E5s and thats what happened for Blitz Cup 2020 (7STAR ironically failed to adapt, they still ran 3 T-22s and were knocked day 1)

Gaseo here knows both 1) the heavy meta exists and 2) NA plays IS-4
yet somehow fails to make the connection that it is literally NA meta and thinks we still don't stand a chance

[thorn shale]

I mean i dont have relation with them/ i dont talk to them. But ofc ik the best ru players lmao

I did had relation with some C4 guys on summer season. Not anymore. Maybe on blitz cup :)

[green orchid]

i think Asia server isn’t getting enough representation 😩

[solid pine]

We need all the Asians to band together

[atomic tartan]

i wouldn't quite call knowing what their boot tastes like as knowing them but yeah you do you

[narrow meteor]

Agreed, they go to tie breaker all the time

[green plover]

I’ve been well haven’t really played blitz at all 🥴

[wintry hound]

Good for you xd

[tulip finch]

He isn't the only one that considered the IS-4 meta a bit behind, that was a somewhat popular opinion on EU as far as I heard from other people

Asia will clap everyone for sure

But I'm hesitant to call any team inferior to the other ones except for maybe Asia but they lack the competition due to less players imo so I don't want to blame them for that and also my opinion is from watching and listening to people talk about it so not much experience when it comes to comp

Twister few years back surely was harder then nowadays LGN and all the other clans that now are split were active back then iirc

[jovial moth]

@wintry hound good sir may I ask how many twister seasons Gaseo Jones has won?

[green orchid]

all of this server bashing makes me hope the blitz cup server can be revived so we can ask our CIS regional player overlords what they think of EU + RU + NA as regions. @narrow meteor

[thorn shale]

0 😩
I think im kms i cant live without winning twister man

[narrow meteor]

I’m sure they will be kind and respectful

[analog osprey]

Slg>rgn

@harsh ember 😴

[harsh ember]

slg lowkey rolled kids in summer @analog osprey

[wintry hound]

@jovial moth Why u asking me this xd in defense of gaseo he's played enough comp that he knows whats going on in blitz...

So I wouldnt be downgrading him just coz he hasnt won as much as other ppl..

[tulip finch]

SaphireGlitter > RGN or any other top clan

[atomic tartan]

i mean, i guess simply showing up to every class for a (russian) D is still a passing grade

[jovial moth]

Just cause you’ve played a lot of comp doesn’t mean you know what you’re talking about 😂

[chilly hemlock]

@muted ore can we get some press accounts?👀

[chilly hemlock]

2018 Mobile Masters

[potent field]

Yes so this way they can settle this and after whoever wins the other can tuck their tails and walk away

[narrow meteor]

Seriously fam we need press accounts

[wintry hound]

That make no sense, bu ok xds

@atomic tartan I'd say a B+/A-

[chilly hemlock]

This wasn’t the summer season championship we deserved but it’s the championship we needed

[jovial moth]

When it comes to blitz it does. You’d be lying if you didn’t know an idiot who’s played comp since the beginning and still doesn’t know sh*t

[tulip finch]

Yes ples I want to see that happening but what server would they play on ?
From NA to RU or EU there might be ping issues so they'd need NA and EU ACC's and do a Bo 5 on EU and NA to give them equal chances or am I wrong there

400 ping everyone having a gravity game of Thier own 😂

[chilly hemlock]

Asia. Let’s double down on chaos

There’s a chance that the server wouldn’t even work to begin with lol

[thorn shale]

This conversation 😭

[narrow meteor]

The ping from NA to EU isn’t that bad

[analog osprey]

Tbh eu vs na is possible ping isn’t so bad

[sinful crest]

@chilly hemlock I’m pretty sure they’ll keep blitzcup the same with the press account situation, although playing internationally isn’t very brain IMO it doesn’t really help you prepare for what you’ll be facing on your server.

[chilly hemlock]

I feel like top 4 clans should get 10 press accounts for each server. Why not encourage cross server play?

It’s not like the press accounts are being used other wise

[thorn shale]

this summer season we got for ru, na didnt got??

yes tjf is right, sorry for my bad english

im sure if NA teams ask for them they will get them, i dont see any reason why WG wouldnt give them

[steel shell]

agree

[chilly hemlock]

@narrow meteor ?

[thorn shale]

Gaseo is saying that EU got press accounts to play RU

And then wondering that NA didn’t

[chilly hemlock]

I honestly have no clue

Sounds like na didn’t get them

[quaint gorge]

Demon time 😈

[analog osprey]

We got the accounts the first day of the tournament so it was useless no time

[sinful crest]

Discrimination towards the North American server.

[thorn shale]

😭

@limber lintel how are the results obsolete? It was the last and therefore most recent offline that took place?

[wintry hound]

Yeeaaa still doesn't make sense. Yes there are idiots in cw, but when it comes to comp play they dont stick around long at the high levels

[chilly hemlock]

I mean the meta has shifted completely and teams rise and fall every season. You will always have past results and nothing takes them away but I don’t think we can assume they are still an accurate picture of where clans still rank

Legion will forever be Twister 2 champions but that was in 2017. I see what they’re getting at

[atomic tartan]

yea. the meta shifted to favor heavies. Raik you've been here since forever. which server has spammed heavies since the dawn of time?

and somehow he thinks we will lose to 4th place on an RU server that didn't have the word heavy tank in their dictionary 1 year ago. if that's not insulting i don't know what is

[thorn shale]

😂

[proper kraken]

guys not to brag but void got 18th last season 😌

[green orchid]

a lot of comp experts are having their say today 🥶

[chilly hemlock]

I totally understand and agree. NA on paper would be stronger now proportionally but there’s no way to know for sure until a cross server tournament happens

[thorn shale]

🥶

[thorn shale]

2022 Twister? 😎

[tulip finch]

Wish I've ever had played comp but was a Pc player from beginning and my phone's until last year were meh and to small for big fingers

@thorn shale you think Corona will go away untill then?
for my country it feels like it wants to stay for another round or do you mean online one ?

2022 you'll have random tanks with random equipment random provisions on random maps

[flat goblet]

Everyone good gone by 2022 if tournaments continue with weird format

[narrow meteor]

Winter Format>

[supple hearth]

I like tournaments

[chilly hemlock]

4 servers with top 4 each all on press accounts for a Fall Season Finale would be lit (ofc on Ru because wg)

[wintry hound]

Press accounts would solve a lot of problems xd

[chilly hemlock]

Oh for sure man

[green orchid]

nope, all of us 20+ year old blitz eSports gamers are definitely going to continue into 2022 🙂

[thorn shale]

That would be craziness

😂

[chilly hemlock]

Why not for this year? Would make up for all the other issues

[thorn shale]

112 total players being flown out

[chilly hemlock]

Such a cool idea that will never happen

Oh, I meant online as in from your homes. Not in minsk…

[thorn shale]

Oh

[proper kraken]

imagine making comments that are actually intelligent thinking that wg cares good one guys really got me laughing

[green plover]

Time and ping no one finna play the game at 12 💀

[thorn shale]

That wouldn’t work yea

Cause what Moe said

[chilly hemlock]

They could host a poll where the 16 team captains vote on a time

Idk. I want something better than pro cup 2 tbh

[slim blade]

it could be done over several days where a time is fixed which works for each team

[chilly hemlock]

Too complicated

[calm atlas]

Wow u so old👴

[feral oar]

Everyone talking about NA vs EU or RU but where Asia?

[potent magnet]

I really like the void clan 🥰

[wintry hound]

Sleeping

[green orchid]

u r kid sebulaus

[tulip finch]

What's Asia ?

Make Blitz like lol and see the Asia server rise😂

[flat goblet]

Make blitz an ability based game. Might as well with the goofy consumables 🙃

Edit: oh yeah, uprising/mad games tournament WHEN

[thorn shale]

💀

[proper kraken]

slowly turning comp/pubs into uprising moment 😝

[feral oar]

U are right but still if u compare servers u see RU is the most competitive one (coz more players). IMO only NA team who can beat them is RGN but mby I’m wrong.

[calm atlas]

OG kid🌚

[tulip finch]

Combine all of them burning mad uprising gravity but remove realistic cuz u can still lock on to people on phone without seeing them 😂

And don't forget to make it t6 only for comp😂

[elder coral]

This man out here spitting straight fax

[elder coral]

They’re still focusing the full HP Maus in a brawl while this chat is happening

[thorn shale]

yo what did v2 get tho? 👀

[rare trellis]

v2 pulling up the rear 😤😤💪💪

[elder coral]

If I see you in game and you don’t got that most prized lower echelon avatar, ima be disappointed. I have mine going lol

[proper kraken]

i only run 1 avatar

[elder coral]

Ok I’m angy

[supple hearth]

Just run no avatar

[thorn shale]

nah u have to run random avatars and go clanless

[proud holly]

Strawberry 🍓

[rare trellis]

i run the training camp avatar on my alt so people think i’m a brainlet

[dreamy bolt]

In what context lmao

[grim trellis]

Well I must say this channel was an enjoyable late-night read.

[thorn shale]

agreed, never fails to disappoint

[merry blade]

Oh wow dragon went off, very cool read

[ember marlin]

Yus this channel makes the whole server worth keeping on my discord

[winged saffron]

I liked summer tournament set up, should do again

[thorn shale]

For autumn we should have
Bronze
Silver
Gold
Platinum
Diamond
Tournaments
You play Bronze to get tickets for silver and gold
You play silver to get tickets for gold and platinum
You play gold for tickets to platinum and diamond
And play platinum for tickets to Diamond
And diamond you earn the most cups

[modest whale]

Yes, and there should be tournaments 7 days a week

[thorn shale]

Yes, each tournament should be round Robin of 16 teams so you play 8 teams one night and 7 the next, and consist of best of 7 for each match, average tournaments time will be 4 hours which is okay for players to be able to commit to over the season

[graceful jetty]

Omg real CRUEL commander? 😳 my team and I would love to train with your pro NA team so we stop focusing the maus 😭 please tell us how to play! Thanks

[rich knot]

Cringe

[thorn shale]

we should have morning ascents as well as the regular time ones. the real winners need to be able to win at any time!!

[thorn shale]

……

[young furnace]

😐

[rare trellis]

i agree! if you can’t win 24/7 you don’t deserve to win at all!

[upper oar]

^^^^^ this

i'll forward to WG

[weak drift]

Big brain, the WOT blitz community still has brain cells 🙂

[thorn shale]

Thank you __Frostbite from the moderation team!

[odd tangle]

Can't wait to see 2 clans in diamond

[silver vapor]

Empty diamond is the way to go

[thorn shale]

Bold of you to assume there will be any past Platinum

[thorn shale]

???

Morning ascents?

[upper oar]

sounds like a great idea

[thorn shale]

😬

[upper oar]

imagine getting your daily tournaments in before school or work, and then doing it again when you come home

we’re supposed to enjoy this game right? can’t enjoy it until its a full time job

on a serious note, if teams are going to be expected to play 6 days out of 7 again for Autumn Season, I would imagine a very widespread “lack of enthusiasm” to start out the new season

[slim blade]

make people play less days but play more on the days they do play

[upper oar]

imo 3 days out of 7 is perfect

3 days to do the tournaments, 3 potential days for teams to practice and scrim if they wish, and then a day off to not even think about the game. i can’t imagine a team wanting to practice more than 3 times a week

[rapid shard]

100% couldnt agree more

Also, there shouldnt be a moment where one qualifying match decides over 5000-7000 cups if every other match decides over barely a couple hundreds as we had the situation last season with a lot of clans. For example the very early bps vs eg in the first gold tournament momentarily brang bps outside of top 16 with an 80% tournament wr which is laughable.

[forest matrix]

Yes if you wanna make a high stakes match just put it in the finals - all these double or nothing games are not relevant for qualifiers especially since the seeding is broken. It just incentives ppl to rig.

[steel shell]

Just bring back round robin

[vital obsidian]

What does "normalized" seeding mean in upcoming midseason tour? Is it wr 100 again or a new seeding?

[narrow meteor]

Just do round robin ascents again

[winter swallow]

Are WG running a focus group / stakeholder consultation session with representative players from each server region regarding tournament scheduling?

[royal cradle]

Highly doubt that

[slim blade]

No, you know wg by now

[merry blade]

Got jokes now huh 😂

[winter swallow]

Worth asking / suggesting now and until the end of the game. Might work. Might not.

[merry blade]

Yeah I agree, would be the best step and right direction. Blitz comp, seeding and a multitude of other problems really need to be addressed

I just pepepray I can watch another commentary from yourself one day

[rapid shard]

best one I've heard in a while

[fresh lance]

Yea... They're totally not atm lol. But i would like to see that actually happening, wether WG has a team playing in to tell from a player perspective or they ask players, either way it could come in really handy to get a clearer view of how the community sees the system and stuff..

[grim trellis]

Agreed. First games should start at 6am on the dot because that's when the brain is fresh!

[graceful jetty]

Round robin ascents are cool. Playing more than 4 days a week is not cool

[terse perch]

I like tournaments.

[proud holly]

I liked the 2-day round robin format. Everything else was meh.

[thorn shale]

It’s okay guys, Wargaming will announce that each Regional Blitz Cup will be open registration first come first served

[rocky crystal]

What if we had 4 teams per group so that way you can finish fighting all 3 teams in 1 day and maybe make it Bo5 and 1st gets gold, 2nd gets Silv? This way we wont have to play 2 days per tourney.

Or if WG Made the tourney 2times a week or 4-5 times 2 week then im fine w that

I did like RR. I feel like w WR Seeding itll kill Elev’s chances of 16 again mainly because our guys have massive battle counts w sub 50%wr. Not only us but many others

[muted ore]

Only if they are given out in the Autumn season and only before the final tournaments.

[muted ore]

We have no plans to increase the number of players from other regions to 3.

@thorn shale The Autumn season starts in a month, with the Blitz Cup starting later. We will also share the information later.

[sinful crest]

@muted ore can you guys please not schedule the tournaments to be 5-6 times a week. The format from spring and winter season in terms of how many days we played weekly was perfect.

[rocky crystal]

^

[muted ore]

@sinful crest Totally there will be fewer days with qualifiers tournaments )

[sinful crest]

Thank you 🙌🏽🙌🏽

[winter swallow]

That's really good to hear.

[thorn shale]

Lovely!

With this news and the 8.2 meta changes, I’m at least cautiously optimistic for Blitz Cup 2021

Meta Changes, Easier Schedule, the third thing is coming, let’s hope it’s good

[sinful crest]

New and long awaited seeding 😳

[vital obsidian]

@muted ore will new seeding system be ready for Autumn season? Will it maybe be tested already in midseason tour?

[thorn shale]

Yea…

Oh god, now we wait to see how seeding is done, this could be interesting

I’m not so optimistic about that

😭

Let’s just say…. The track record for new things being implemented isn’t exactly flawless

[frosty nexus]

@vital obsidiantoday we are going to share all details about the new formula 🙂

[lunar stirrup]

What are the changes ?

[thorn shale]

Exciting 👀

[vital obsidian]

Wow! that is super news! Thank you so much!

[lunar stirrup]

Nvm I jst saw

[muted ore]

@sinful crest @winter swallow @thorn shale To clarify, not per week, but in total.
The exact dates of the qualifiers will be announced later.

[thorn shale]

That’s still good news @muted ore

😊

Thank you!

[chilly hemlock]

@atomic tartan @thorn shale so both teams just have to make top 8 if it reading this correctly and I think you should have @flat goblet stream it. Could call it, “Cross Server Challenge Part 1”

[gleaming pollen]

Weren't those accounts for only top 4 last year?

[steel shell]

@gleaming pollen idk but we received accounts for top8 this season

[glass thunder]

@muted ore i saw the news about new seeding value How can a player know his weight (last 1k battles wr at tier x)?

[burnt glacier]

It's not last 1k, but overall I think

[limber lintel]

it's just weighted wr on tier X, minimum of 1k games on this tier, if you don't have 1k games on tier X lower tier results are counted with a penalty of some sort,

if you don't have 1k games total, all the games you would still need to get to 1k games count as losses

as far as I can tell

[dim pivot]

The ingame news has good examples, check it out @glass thunder

[muted ore]

@glass thunder The weight is not displayed anywhere in the game.
Yes, it can be counted by 1000 (or more) battles at tournament equipment level. For qualifiers, these are level 10 tanks.

[burnt glacier]

@muted oreReally effective system! Thanks!

[limber lintel]

it's better than before, but underwhelming for the time spent on it tbh, not meant to be an insult to WG, just what I feel

[ember marlin]

I believe it's if you dont have 1k games at tier x then the mm takes into account your tier 9 games with a winrate penalty of 5% and so on with the penalty increasing up to 75% for tier 5 games in the mm.
Basically if you had 1000 games in tier 5 and you had 80 percent winrate the mm would take into account that you had 5% winrate making rerolling useless

My only concern with the system is that it hurts players with low career stats but high 30 day stats

Still far better than straight winrate or random mm

Mods pls no mute for talking about mm ;)

[steel shell]

Progress is progress but this is supposed to be the “magic formula” you had been working on for at least half a year?

[slim blade]

+1

thats about as cryptic an explanation as you can make.
presumably the teams total weight is the sum of all player weights.
if so is the matchmaking based on lowest weight vs highest weight? and how do you plan to accommodate these players who achieve 80+% wr via superunicum platoons?

[potent magnet]

Well it's a 1000 battles at the tier of the tournament, in this case 1000 battles at tier 10

[thorn shale]

Is it last 1000 battles at tier X?

Well this is bad then @limber lintel

Rerolls can also have 1k battles at tier X and better wr than normal accs xd
I mean this seeding is better than the last ones, but it should be last 1k battles. Not “at least”

[limber lintel]

no, it says at least

tell me about it, xD

[steel shell]

It should of been last 1000 games
How is relevant someones 10k games on X compared to rerolls that have barely 1k with super high wr

[wet tide]

What am I supposed to do with like 20% of my tX games being played when I was a sub-50 wr player? Thanks for another wr seeding…….

[slim blade]

i am not a reroll. therefor i must suck up the first few thousand games I played with 45%wr
ooh, fantastic

[burnt glacier]

But it's your problem, no?

[gleaming schooner]

But if there is a reroll with 1k TX battles, that 1k is also his LAST 1K, so he would have higher WR anyway. But yes, making it LAST 1K would make it more fair, but still not really

[thorn shale]

@muted ore Hello. Can you please consider changing it to last 1.000 battles?
Its the best option tbh
It will show the real wr of each player.
Thanks for your work btw keep it up

[sonic patio]

Agreed

[ember marlin]

It's still more difficult to grind 1k games at tier x on a reroll

[steel shell]

agreed

[slim blade]

yh. rerolls would even be positively affected by this unless they are getting worse as a player somehow.

[wet tide]

Agreed

[silver vapor]

There has been an attempt, so to say, to make a seeding system that decreases the importance of rerolled accounts, but I think the general consensus here is primarily with the 2 point imo:

• It still encourages rerolling as it still counts stats that are outdated (players that played the specified tiers since the game started, and those games have unreasonable impact on the seeding)
• It is still reliant on stats that are derived from a different gamemode, where the basis of pace and gameplay are fundamentally different.

what we have here is still better than nothing, but there can be more, considering this took at least 2 seasons to "develop"

to me you'd only need to solve one of these concerns for a solution that everyone is happy with. it's really not that hard.

[hasty dagger]

Nice to see that WG tries to do something for seeding. Have WG thought that seeding could be made by clan ranking, not by wr? Clan gets points everytime it participates the tournament. Bigger tournament, more points. Clan ranking will make clans more active and increases clans interest for tournaments.

[slim blade]

idk why wg are so blind/uninterested in making a functioning 30d/recent statistics idea in game. it would fix so many of these issues they keep creating for themselves

[thorn shale]

The easiest solution to fix this (I think) was the one I mentioned. I don’t think WG will make a new system after they announced this one. Maybe for another season yes.

@forest matrix that’s why I asked if they can change it to last 1k

[tulip finch]

At this point it's play 1k T10 battles on a reroll in a very Reroll MM friendly tank like chieftain,e5,t22 and you're good to go 70-80 are definetly possible in Reroll MM

Only problem I see with last 1k battles at T10 that I assume it's somewhat harder to track if people only played 1k battles for the seeding and then stopped I think WG doesn't save your data for that long so after like 90days would you have to do it again ?
If it would change to last 1k battles ?

[steel shell]

I still dont understand how head of tournament development can come up with this system and not with recent stats one
it doesnt make any sense

[forest matrix]

@thorn shale here what answered ribble in update Chanel - agreed the last 1000 would be much more relevant to stop this incentive to reroll due to penalty of legacy stats
Still this is progress in the sense of I don’t feel there is any way to rig it without skills and quite a lot of time to put into it.

[muted ore]

Hello. I cannot speak now about future changes to the formula.
We will keep a close eye on how it performs and if changes are necessary, we will make them.

[slim blade]

translates to, we’re stuck with this for autumn season

[stone pulsar]

this season will be interesting thank you WG

[thorn shale]

Thanks for you answer. Please consider asking for opinions to maybe the streamers, or best clans of summer season, etc
As a community I’m sure everyone wants to help to make the tournaments better, ask for opinions, you lose nothing

And yeah this is prob better than last ones, but still it can get better with ez changes

[gleaming pollen]

@muted ore Thank you for making and giving us a new seeding for tournaments. It already seems to be better than any previous ones!

[steel shell]

This seeding wouldnt be bad at all if they change it to recent 1k tier X games

[thorn shale]

So if I have 18k battles in tier X with 77% win rate my weight is 77%??

[steel shell]

yes

[thorn shale]

yes

[forest matrix]

@muted ore new seeding formula seems very good. It is sad that you didn’t compute it over the last 1k battles something you could have thought of quite easily especially if seeking for feedbacks. But with this formula already we will finally get rid of 80% of tournaments frustration I believe. And focus on what is happening in game.

[rocky crystal]

Thats an op Seeding System!!! Well done Guys. Its like norm seeding but only counts t10. So if someone used to suck at game and now have 60%wr at 30 Days they will still have terrible career T10 Winrate because of the past and would have a lot of games by then.

If WG counted the Last 1K Games then im fine with it

[sly axle]

A real seeding system, never thought I would see the day, but damn am I glad it’s here.

[empty phoenix]

So you’re telling me my tier 10 games when I was 50% years ago represent my tier 10 ability now that I’m 68%+ 30-60-90. Another failed system

[muted ore]

@gleaming pollen @thorn shale We really hope that the new seeding will please our players.

[graceful jetty]

I think the seeding is good. But please change it to the recent 1k tier 10 battles 🙂

[steel shell]

yeah thats why we want a little change to recent games and the seeding is perfect

[gloomy canyon]

who want to join me ?

[gleaming pollen]

Will the seeding still count only the 7 best weights of each team?

[thorn shale]

It will for sure please the players more than the other systems we had before. But as everyone is saying, our 50%wr tier X battles can not represent us now that we are +60%wr

[muted ore]

@gleaming pollen yes

[sly axle]

Sirius, what are your thoughts on rerolling to get much better stats at tier X?

[thorn shale]

@sly axle how is that tournament related?

[sly axle]

Because @thorn shale if you reroll for good stats you get better seeding
In the new system - better TX wr = better seeding

[thorn shale]

So? If the player is good enough to have markedly improved stats on his reroll then the better seeding is deserved

[gray pond]

If it's not last 1k battles then it's another failed system like previous ones tbh.
You can create a reroll, play 1k battle in Tier X and thats it!

[steel shell]

thats a bs since there is newbie mm which makes the game so much easier 😄
accounts with less than 5k games should be irrelevant as well

[thorn shale]

I'm unaware of any newbie MM for tier X

at least on NA

[sly axle]

@thorn shale I simply asked Sirius that question to see if he had an opinion on the matter. I never stated my own opinion on rerolling.

[thorn shale]

EU may very well be different

[gray pond]

Such a great time for the rerolls to return...

[steel shell]

well on EU it works like if you have below 5k games, you are usually put into que with other players below 5k games (if there is enough of them ofc) and it doesnt matter which tier youre playing

[meager perch]

Reroll golden era

[neon thistle]

imagine

[thorn shale]

@muted ore I have just one question. It says in the news article that:

"The team's “weight” is calculated on the server after the team is registered. Its value is not displayed anywhere in the game client."

Is there a possibility that in a future update the real value of the team's "weighted" winrate will be displayed in the game client?

[muted ore]

@thorn shale I can't promise anything right now, but we will continue to work on the new seeding formula.
If we have any news on this, we will certainly tell the players.

[thorn shale]

sounds good. I just read through the article on the website, and overall this new formula seems to be fantastic. You and everyone on the tournament team deserve big praise! A very exciting change in my opinion!

[half urchin]

+1
otherwise you just shift the problem to when the rerolls completed the 1k battles on tier x in bot mm. then its the same as before

[latent olive]

The idea was to combat the 100% WR accounts, something everyone wanted. WG have done exactly that from what I can tell. It was never about making it harder for re-rolls, it was about getting rid of the 100% WR accounts and those accounts that didnt even have a T10!

[empty phoenix]

It’s a good idea, it really is. But counting winrate from when we all sucked doesn’t accurately show the players we are now. This is what the most recent 1k tier 10 games makes the most sense, and would actually balance seeding

[gray pond]

I hope you change this seeding system based on recent 1000 battles. Because otherwise the reroll accounts will return to the tournaments again.
Anyway, I appreciate you choosing a new system for the new season.
@muted ore @frosty nexus

[slim blade]

yes but ideally not out of the frying pan into the fire

[steep prawn]

@muted ore May I ask you, between a player with 18k battles for 76% wr and another with 25k battles and 74% wr (all in T10), who has the better seeding ?

[calm atlas]

me

[burnt glacier]

Depends on tier 10* WR

[untold tinsel]

i like tournaments

[analog osprey]

@steep prawn your mère

[potent magnet]

If you have more than a 1000 battles will it count your overall tier 10 wr or just career wr

[steep prawn]

Yea ikr I changed it

[supple hearth]

I like tournaments

[gray pond]

Anyone hates tournaments?

[latent olive]

I read it that after 1k battles it doesnt matter, it only matters for 1k or less. If you have less than 1k in T10 tanks, then the lower tiers are used to 'top up' then a forfeit applied. If you have less than 1k total, even when including the lower tiers then they add the missing battles as loses. So I am under the impression that anyone with over 1k battles in T10 tour tanks nothing will change at all, so in your query the 18k 76% wr player has a better seeding than the 25k 74k wr player. Least thats how I read it

[muted ore]

@steep prawn If all battles were level 10, the one with wr 76% is better.

[steep prawn]

Okay I see thx. Then all the rerolls will still be above the rest as they will just need to do 1k games with their MM and never touch it again :/

[muted ore]

@steep prawn Playing well in 1000 battles is not a bad job ), more than 1 win )

Also, we can change the value from 1000 to another )

[rain jasper]

EGg

[terse nebula]

1K games is too low, if 1k games will come true then all will just make rerolls and get better wr that way

[muted ore]

We believe that 1,000 fights is enough.

[steep prawn]

Do you think then, counting the last 1k games in consideration can be a better idea, like this any player has the same chances for having the best wr possible for the seeding ? As for someone with 20k it’s much harder to up the wr than with 2k, you know what I mean. @muted ore

[modest whale]

you can just reroll and have way better seeding now

[terse nebula]

Is it last 1k games or minimum played 1k games wich are counted? 2 different things 🙂

[patent quartz]

1000 games in T10 is rather low because they can all be played within the first 5k games of a reroll account, so either this number of battle should be higher, or only the games above 5k games with improved matchmaking should be taken into account

[acoustic garden]

The problem just got worse, it didn't get solve

[slim socket]

Wait so are battles not weighted then? If they were weighted wouldn't the 74% wr 25k battles be better since they have more wins?

[steep prawn]

That’s exactly what I’m thinking about, either you take the last 1k games in consideration for every players, like that rerolls or not it’s the same for everyone, either you take in consideration the amount of battles in the formula which would make more sense as I mentioned before having 74% wr in 25k is more wins than 76% wr in 18k

[muted ore]

@steep prawn @slim socket If the number of such battles exceeds 1,000, the "weight" will be equal to the player's percentage of victories in this selection of battles.

[atomic tartan]

minor change. 1k battles in tier 10 start counting after 5k battles on account. no more bot mm, problem solved

gonna need 6k battles overall to really make a difference. thats some dedicated rerolling

[patent quartz]

@muted ore can these 1000 battles be played within the improved matchmaking and still count in the formula? or does the player need to have played at least 5000+ games for it to count?

[steep prawn]

In this case yes that would be better, but right now this is only delaying the problems of rerolls and not solving it imo

[atomic tartan]

how many people do you think are going to actually play 6k battles on a new account? that's going to take literal months. if they have that sort of dedication just for seeding i think it will be the least of your problems lol

[rocky crystal]

Newbie MM only exists for Tiers 1-8. After that u see Real Players. Thats why u see some rerolls w like 3K Avg in T7 and once they play T9-10 they sit like sub 2k

[dim pivot]

Rerollers being thankful that wargaming released this formula so early, so now they have a month to get 1k battles for autumn season

[burnt glacier]

33 games per day and keep high WR
Hmmm.....

[glass thunder]

@muted ore so i can make reroll play 1k battles at tier 10 in newbie mm and have big weight in my team wr no or after that u include number of battles too ?

[tulip finch]

Good point
So if I got your point right your 1k battles start counting from 5k battles onwards but what happens to the T10 battles fought before the 5k mark ?

@atomic tartan only problem is see is How'd you throw them out I mean how would a system find out which battles to count and which not ?

[terse nebula]

Maybe it could work if this new system would count 1k games/3month period, and when you stop playing then you will get lower than 1k battles and tier9 games will come to count. This way any reroll has to play just to keep up with wr/1k games, and 3 month period is not so long. Dont know if i explained it correctly but this way no clan could hold rerolls in back burner just to take it out for tounament use only @muted ore

[atomic tartan]

they're played in a sub 5k mm so i think they should be thrown out too. its not the same mm as everyone else

[thorn shale]

this is a terrible idea.

and would likely be very difficult to implement

[gray pond]

^ exactly

[thorn shale]

I have no idea why everyone is so pressed about rerollers. If someone is good enough to maintain a high winrate at tier 10 over 1,000 battles then good on them

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steep prawn]

@thorn shale with bot MM you don’t need to be good that’s the problem

[terse nebula]

Is bot MM only in tier2-8, and not in tier9-10?

[half urchin]

the thing is you have on eu the so called bot/ newbie mm till 5k battles overall. so its rather easy to do good within the first 5k battles and so to get better mm. thats why everyone (on eu) wishes to increase the 1k battles to somewhat higher, maybe 5.5k (would be really high tho). or to take the last games (30d, 14d, 1k battles) in consideration

edit: bruh to slow at writing

[gray pond]

Bot MM is for first 1k battles, doesn't matter which tier

edited: 5k battles

[thorn shale]

@half urchin ok, then that makes sense

But as far as I know that 5k battles in newbie MM only affects EU

So people on NA or Asia don’t have much of a complaint

[ancient shard]

NA has it I think but it doesn’t work all the time

[steep prawn]

First 5*

[slim blade]

people are also pressed that it affects none rerolls negatively, not so much that it affects rerolls positively. a reroll has an arguable advantage over a none reroll since the reroll shows true tier 10 stats, where an actual account has noob stats as well as current stats.

[sly axle]

I’ve never heard of Newbie MM on NA for any tier higher than 7

[wet tide]

Me: has 20% of my tX games from back when I was a 48wr player, lowering my wr for the seeding (65 now)
In platoons I’m averaging around 75%
Reroll boy who can have platoons with a friend and easily get 75% instead of 65%
Ofc people get pressed about rerolls
Edit: thats not how it should be, make a new account because otherwise you get punished by a system
All of this could be solved by taking the last 1k battles, but no, lets force superunicums to go to the noob mm and sealclub beginning wotb players
Nice idea

[thorn shale]

Ok so go reroll then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

No ones stopping you. Everyone here can go make one

[steep prawn]

@thorn shale is it the solution ? No

[half urchin]

lol. then it was completely useless to make a new seeding, because everyone could go and make a 1 battle 100% wr acc

[slim blade]

for example, in my early days of the game I managed to rack up 46%wr and 400+ games in some of my tanks. i dont have the patience or time to fix these stats but they shouldnt come back to bite me

—
@thorn shale is that seriously your solution? That is not the point. It’s nobody here’s fault that the system is bad, I don’t see why anybody should have to accommodate for this

[thorn shale]

This change is miles and miles better than the current system and shows that WG are actually listening to players and looking to improve on their game. I cannot understand why the first instinct of half the people here is to complain about a problem that is much smaller than the current one we have with 100% accounts

I’m sure that in the future WG might reconsider the 1,000 battle count system. But they also may not because if they raise it to a super high number like 5-6k, then that will also penalize and discourage legitimately new players

[thorn shale]

??? In this new system they’d need to play 1,000 games at tier 10.

Additionally, reroll accounts have less tanks and are therefore less useful than legacy accounts. I doubt that there is a huge amount of people who are willing to sink their time into sweating 1000 battles at tier 10 just so their team can have an account with a higher winrate

[steel shell]

If you had 1 game on tier X only, with the new system you have 999 loses 😄 how is it the same

[thorn salmon]

1k battle is easily archivable within a month, u can just go make a new account, buy all the t10s u need and do those 1k battles with like idk 80% winrate or so @thorn shale

[thorn shale]

You can’t buy tech tree tier 10s

[half urchin]

the main problem, in my eyes is, that it only delays the problem. for this twister its fine, but in spring season you will have the same problems than before

[steep prawn]

@thorn shale yes they are in the good way but that doesn’t mean that we still can’t tell what we think about it, if we see that we could improve it why not do it now instead of waiting for the people to exploit it before changing it ????

[thorn shale]

And you would need to spend quite a lot of money to free xp them

[slim blade]

Sure, this system isn’t the absolute train wreck we had before but it is by no means good by any standard. As I said earlier being out of one frying pan and into another isn’t the solution lmao

On the contrary there are plenty of people willing to do that, this was proven with the 100% accounts 🤦‍♂️ if people are willing to invest real money to get top modules in order to grind in ratings they are certainly willing to just play the game

@thorn shale did you read what I said? If people are willing to spend real money in order to buy the modules required to grind a tank line in ratings on their 100% accounts they are more than willing to just play the game normally without spending money

[thorn shale]

Yes because spending money for a single crate tank and playing 1 game to get 100% is totally the same as having the ability to win at 70%+ for 1000 games at tier 10 @slim blade

😂

They’re not even comparable

[terse nebula]

This new system will kill the last drops of tournament play for clans. 55% teams will get even worse team wr with this new system or some. Not all want to reroll for tournaments. Tournament scene has gone down for many years now and this will kill the rest off. Only top8-16 clans will play below that will be pretty dead with this new system. I dont understand why WG wants to make tournaments for avarage teams so difficult to play, all top team players have learned their stuff from lower clans in the past. And now if middle clans stop playing tournaments, then stop teaching new players to tournament scene, and less and less new top players will come in the future. Its like sayin ice hockey divisions 1-3 that they cant play anymore but top series can play and with better players(accounts). I just dont get this way of thinking what WG has been doing for the last 2-3 years, little by little tournament is dying and this will keep killing it. Its easy to say that all is good if you are a top player but try to teach tournament play to a 50-55% player and all opponents that he will get are unicums. And some say play QT, its not the same as propper tournaments.

[thorn shale]

And this new system is hardly a jump from the frying pan into the fire. It’s a genuine upgrade with a ton of positives

In my opinion new tournament system sounds just good. Finally some positive update.

I’m convinced some people enjoy complaining just for the sake of complaining

[steel shell]

The new system certainly requires some minor changes but otherwise its good imo
If we as players provide enough constructive critique i think we can polish the system to perfection or at least near one

[gray pond]

It can be called an improved version of the old winrate seeding system. Of course, it is not ideal yet

[slim blade]

The new system is great - except for that lifetime t10 stats are counted.
Count the latest 1k - the new system is perfect

[gleaming pollen]

@thorn shale I agree with you on almost everything you have said, especially about the comment on people like to complain.

[potent magnet]

It's better than all the systems so far lol

[thorn shale]

^^

[steel shell]

1. make battles and wr below 5k games irrelevant
   2)count only recent 1k tier X games
   And we have super good system

[steep prawn]

^^

[gray pond]

1st option is by far better than 2nd one. But yeah these are the best

[thorn shale]

This update just brings hope to this game and some motivation to conduct team gathering inside my clan. Last year has been big horror while the whole thing has been strongest vs weakest. Like spending hours to get team gathered for two looses. 12 min battles and nobody didnt get even warm while biggest cheaters of the game were as an opponent.

[terse nebula]

1k games from last 3months would be best, so all accounts would be active and not sleeper accounts

[thorn shale]

I don’t understand how you’re concerned about the 1k games at tier 10 being easily exploited but you don’t think 1k recent games wouldn’t be exploited @steep prawn @steel shell

People could just do 3am toons in double broke tier 10s and get 90% winrate if the system changed to recent 1k games

[steel shell]

How do you want to exploit recent 1k games on tier X
Edit: yeah then maybe change the count? Make it 3k
If anyone is willing to rig 3k games hes insane

[thorn shale]

What I just said above

[steep prawn]

@thorn shale because 1k recent gives the chance to every players not only the rerolls, what’s hard to understand in this

[half urchin]

@muted ore will the new map be in the pool for autumn season?

[thorn shale]

It would be much more exploitable than making a new account and grinding out 1000 games on a new account

[thorn shale]

No. It just turns comp into a brain dead arms race to see which team can have the highest winrate over the past 1k games

It would be x10 worse than anything involving possible problems with rerolls lmao

[tulip finch]

Are you familiar with the APA teams from previous seasons on EU Thier 100% had prob all the needed t10s for tournaments not just 1 tank they had several and not only prems
Crates for T10s or T8s already give you tons of free exp if you gamble for them + 100 x5 certs Grind you several lines in no time in gamemodes so you don't even need rating battles for that

If those people can exploit they will they already have the tanks on Thier 100% accs they will just start playing them everyone on EU knows that

Only thing that comes to my mind would be what happens if t10s are being tested like yoh how would that count into recent 1k battles ?

[thorn shale]

Like yea great, let’s change it to recent 1k games so that we can see which team is willing to have their players stay up to 3am and double toon something like AMX M4s and grind out 90% winrate at tier 10

👏

#DefinitelyNotExploitable

😜

At least rerolls need to make some work to get their readings nice.

[atomic tartan]

also how far back does the 1k battles go? too far and you get people who play 1k games and then sit on their "weight" for the next two seasons. too soon and you punish people who don't spam the game as much.

the further along we think about this it just concludes in that every system imaginable can be abused. the only "perfect" system imo is that the way to abuse it will take more effort than simply winning your way through

[green orchid]

1k recent is exploitable, imagine teams doing count ins at 3am with alt accounts where toons from the main team face alts who are rigging by looking to throw the win to ensure that players from the main team stay winning on the opposite team, no system will ever be perfect

[terse nebula]

Yeah i undestand what you mean.. Most here commenting dont know this issue and dont even care about this.. And WG wont listen to avarage players about this

[steel shell]

Then change the count from 1k to 3k.. no1 will try to rig 3k games

[slim blade]

👍

[thorn shale]

Or… hear me out… WG keep the current system?

And it sounds like the issue to me is that EU has newbie MM for the first 5k games. Just remove that and then your reroll problem is solved too

[half urchin]

just lower it to tier 8 max. but thats a different story 🤷🏼‍♂️

[green orchid]

Zenitsu 💪

[slim blade]

the reroll issue with this system involves 2 things:

a) non rerolls are at a disadvantage since their “newbie days” stats are counted. meaning a really good player can get weighed down by the 400 games they played in the 183 with 45%wr.

b) {eu} rerolls are at an advantage since they have the “newbie” matchmaking, meaning it’s easier to get a better weighting

[steel shell]

I think every server has it but maybe player count on NA is the problem since there isnt enough new players to que up with? Idk

[steep prawn]

@thorn shale okay then cya in 2 months when everyone will complain about mm being rigged by rerolls

[green plover]

@green orchid hey man big fan of Eg

[atomic tartan]

just remove battles played in sub 5k mm. 1000 tier 10 battles start counting 5001 to 6000. 6k battles for a reroll to start making a difference in seeding. if people actually go that far to make a difference in seeding then you should be happy they're not focusing those literal months of playing onto strats or training.

every system can be abused. its about making harder to abuse than simply winning.

[green orchid]

hey bro i respect -1- First Alliance and still hope for ur comeback one day, miss our battles in 2017 and 2018

[tulip finch]

What happend to -1-
Did they move on from Blitz or was that rule that u can't have more then 2 player from another server the issue

[steel shell]

Nah, it died before the rule was a thing

[steep prawn]

This rule wasn’t even a thing when they stopped

[toxic lintel]

I mean it’s better than before, realistically without rigging the highest tier 10 wr you can get in 1000 games is not gonna be above 80%. I don’t imagine having 2 80% accounts is going to destroy the seeding for the top teams in the game

[thorn shale]

This ^

[tulip finch]

That's why I'm asking idk what happend and that was a thing that came to my mind as a possible reason for them disappearing didnt know that this rule wasn't a thing

[steel shell]

What happened was that members of -1- got tired of the game and just left to do something more useful

[terse nebula]

Best thing for tournament scene would be that tournament teams couldnt be over 60% wr avarage, no reroll issue,tournament scene would grow and WG would get new clients/players to this game

[modest whale]

🤨

[steep prawn]

You underestimate the riggers, but we will see anyway

[atomic tartan]

Realistically you’d also beat them. If they think they can take you head on they wouldn’t be spending so much time on side tracks like this

[steep prawn]

Well ofc I don't care about it myself as this is not a problem for EG, I'm talking for all the top 6-12 clans that deserve top 8 but will get shit seeding coz of riggers

[green orchid]

someone warn this man for swearing 🤬

[young furnace]

Only top 7 players count anyway, i doubt all ur team has the same wr as urs. If so then that's unlucky 🤷‍♂️

[merry blade]

Just play 33 games a day for a month

[daring swan]

It counts all your t10 battles. Not just last 1000

[earnest galleon]

Ez just open top turnies for PC. Problem solved.

[flat goblet]

Lol

[winter swallow]

Better than nothing - but if you're planning on making it 6 nights per week again that is not a good idea...

[young furnace]

Problem solved ✅

[outer isle]

Until I can use my emulator, there aren't problems 🙂👍🏻

[proud holly]

I liked the round robin format. Hope they keep that.