tourneys-discussion

[upper oar]

i might try to bring that up with Ribble. I've been interested in getting new/different discussion channels for a while now, that could be a good one

[civic ferry]

I'd like to see a Tier 9 ONLY Special Tournament please.

[sinful crest]

No.

[proud holly]

i lowkey wanna see t9 too

[worthy island]

Wait can someone explain to me why the 100% account is bad in tourney? Sorry I’m don’t have much knowledge

[atomic tartan]

@worthy island team A has 10 people, all 50% winrate. average = 50
team B has 9 people, all 50% winrate, the 10th account has 1 battle 100%. average = 55%

higher winrate means seeding against weaker opponents. Team A will probably face another 50% team, Team B will fight a 45% team.

Team B is fighting easier opposition and thus more likely to make it to the next round than Team A despite the same 50% average of actual players.

[worthy island]

So the higher the winrate, the lower the other team average winrate going to be when u fight them?

[upper oar]

yes

[limber lintel]

basically ranks teams on a line from low to high,
then matches opposites

Highest vs Lowest
2nd Highest vs 2nd Lowest
3rd ...

[covert flax]

Does RGN usually get good seeding? Seeing as y’all have like 65+% accounts

[limber lintel]

For teams like RGN it doesnt matter, theyre good enough so that the seeding doesnt really affect them

[covert flax]

Maybe 🤷‍♂️

[proud holly]

Considering their twister record. . .probably

[atomic tartan]

Yes. Usually we (along with SPEED and other 65+ teams) bypass the entire 1st round entirely and start playing Round 2 at 9:30

[covert flax]

i see, big brains for sure

[proud holly]

Lemme grab some booster accs real quick brb

[slim blade]

cue the argument for wg to make a proper 30d stats system ingame

[loud karma]

Anyone here need a member for tournament? Bc i don’t have team and i want to do tournament 😦

[upbeat iris]

#tourneys-team-search @loud karma

[loud karma]

Ok

[thorn shale]

I wanna see WG making it so players are able to pick 4 teams out of 8 that qualify and then make their own rating for top 4 clans. The more you have correct the nicer reward.

[odd wolf]

But it’s only 8 teams so that would be kinda easy

[green orchid]

nothing is raising the interest unless they invest more resources into clan wars and fix the seeding system.

[thorn shale]

Nothing is raising the interest cause pro players also don't put effort into community. If you leave your coffin 3 times a year to play the tournament and die again then xd

[upbeat iris]

The keys certainly raised interest and made a few extra people follow the scene a bit, but those rewards were too good to ignore so the focus was on the rewards and not the content.

[fast hare]

Tandmore#0619 was banned

[winter swallow]

This could be VERY interesting actually. Maybe we can put on a community one 🤔

We have the people, logistics and infrastructure. Could be a nice beta to help WG consider running an official one.

[limber lintel]

yep, I know quite a few people who just opened stream and went and did something else

[winter swallow]

There are more pro streamers than ever before. I think the main issue (regarding their viewing numbers) is that people, that aren't good at the game, don't want to realise how un-good they are.

Watching a tournament level 70%+ super unicum play forces a lot of try hards who think they are actually good, to face reality 😆

Just imagine how OP a team that trained all year could be. Of course that won't happen if they earn less than $5 an hour equivalent for the amount of time it would take to train and play "full" time.

... edit... that's assuming they even win the arrest prize in the game ofc.

[thorn shale]

From EU there's only Juicy who played 1 tourney and object who has a break rn so not that many or I'm wrong?

[winter swallow]

Object3. Juicy. Hydra (in the past). IceCreamChill (Niko). There are others I'm sure.

Fatness from NA.

Multiple CIS - Hell, WGs BlitzStig (nice Top Gear ripoff btw) is n0_sk1ll...

The issue is there a lot of comp players that start but don't get promoted and realise it actually costs money to run a blitz channel for the most part - and then stop.

Sure they could turn a profit if they hit 5k+ subs or get enough views, but AFAIK very few manage that.

[thorn shale]

Wellllll I'm not a game developer so I guess it's simply not worth it from WG perspective to invest in tourneys and they'd rather target casual playerbase

[winter swallow]

Anyways - if WG could promote pro player YT channels more - it would help them grow the game and grow the esports aspect of it.

Obviously.

And as @TheFalconDude#1899 says - it costs. Hardware. Time. Effort. For someone to run a channel streaming or making videos for blitz. Wg don't pay them. Viewing figures are very low (outside CIS but even in it tbh) so that doesn't pay.

YT pays about $3-5 per 1000 views.

You can extrapolate from that - quite easily.

Factor in Patreon and Super Chats as you will- but the main takeaway is that all YouTubers for Blitz are hobbyists. No one is (or should be, at least) career.

[crisp shore]

Hmm next BPC tier 9? 🤔

[limber lintel]

🤬 🤬 🤬

[green orchid]

yeh have fun facing k91s in tier 9 tourneys unless tourney rules state only 2 premiums per team

[radiant kelp]

Season coin Tournaments won't be on the same day as Prove Your Skill Tournaments right?

[vital obsidian]

I think you wrong. How many of the Barca or ManU fans are on same level? 0,0000001%

[radiant kelp]

same

[winter swallow]

The fans of real sports know they aren't in that level. Blitz players not so much - for the most part. As far as I can tell.

[vital obsidian]

xD

[lofty notch]

Dk

[winter swallow]

Like in Blitz you get 50%ers saying they are as good as a 70% pro.

In football, no local 5 a-sider claims they are as good as Ronaldo....

[slim blade]

I’m better than Ronaldo
Football, ez claps, guys so bad

[winter swallow]

At what though?

[hollow bolt]

Now that's a tournament I'd watch, 1v1 blitz Ronaldo Vs _TheOdyssey

[surreal hinge]

Sponsored by WG

[toxic lintel]

better at being worse

[civic ferry]

Thanks for your interest! Please let me know what I can do to assist.

[limber lintel]

for that please go to #tourneys-team-search

[thorn shale]

Ok

[burnt glacier]

Is there will be same seeding system which count best 7 players by WR?

[pliant peak]

Yes

[burnt glacier]

Hmm...Then there is interesting big brain polish tactic without any reserve player...

[fast hare]

AirWolfOne#5147 was banned

[thorn shale]

Registration of the first PYS of spring season is opened. Lets see how many 100wr accs we can see

[azure pecan]

Caugh

[radiant kelp]

@thorn shale I'm in NA but, how many teams are already registering and are registered estimate?

[thorn shale]

7 teams registered 71 created

[radiant kelp]

Ok thanks

[narrow meteor]

For ascents, are streamers able to keep going through the tourney even after the team their following gets eliminated?

[graceful jetty]

^^

[atomic tartan]

attaching to brackets has been done before. hopefully they remember it's doable lol

[narrow meteor]

they really implemented it then forgot to bring it back for Winter lol

[proud holly]

Just checked NA. Alot of reroll teams playing.

[latent olive]

Its a catch 22, without interest from the community entire, not just in watching CW but actually wanting to take part, the scene will not grow and WG will not throw more resources at it. WG have tried to promote, with reward streams, but then people moaned because people were watching for the rewards only! Think 'where is my keys' which remains a meme to this day!
Most of the player base isnt overly interested in the 'stat side' or the technical side, they just want to watch and be entertained tbf, which is why streams do not get as many views as videos and why the big YT'ers dont do tour streams. All sides need to do more if they want the interest to grow. Streams need to be entertaining, promoted and engaging, but clans also need to do more to raise their profiles and gain a following, like we see on CIS server with the likes of MERCY, GG and C4. When the interest grows, so does the ability for WG to gain more sponsorship, reaching a bigger audience, and thus be able to throw more resources at it. However, the other aspect is actually getting more people actually involved at the 'grass roots' of CW and sorry to say a lot of put off because of WR seeding, because there is little to no resources from the community itself, like how to actually play CW and stuff like that. New players with less than desirable WR's turn their backs on CW because to them there is no hope really and with the average player being around 47% the scene will continue to only attract the 1% and alienate the other 99%.

[latent olive]

As for the comparison of football, supporters in the main generally dont follow a team because of a specific player but for other reasons, like they are from that region etc. When Ronaldo moved from Man U to Real how many Man U supporters dumped them? I am betting hardly any, if none. Thing is players like Ronaldo spend a lot of time on their profiles, building a base and profiting from their skill. So do the top teams in the likes of football. E-Sports is totally different in almost every aspect.
WG has tried to tap into this type of support, with the clan avatars, but there is only so much WG can do and players and clans also need to do something to raise their profiles, assuming they want to ofc. Blitz players, by comparison, like to think that they 'could' get to the same level as the pro player I dont think they necessarily think they are at the level already.
Football also has the same mentality, whereby people think they can indeed be the next Messi etc and go to the academies, enter into Sunday teams etc etc and no doubt if you asked R1B or Hassomat their PS13 gains enough interest from the run of the mill player base to suggest that there is interest in this side, at least from the German community (so I hear).

[slim blade]

Simply having an event where you place your bet on the winning team and get rewards if they win is a great way to do it

[knotty tundra]

Yeah, I fully agree with you fugit.

Most players either won‘t watch the tournament streams, or they‘ll watch only watch if there are rewards. most players arent interested in tourneys, thats just a fact. Wargaming tried to awake some interest with the rewards, but it did exactly the opposite.... basically 90% of players just let the stream running while doing whatever, and then got the rewards. The other 10% are either players who r interested into tourneys, or players that are bored and watch the stream because of that.
I‘m interested in tourneys, yet i‘ve let the streams run by on the side and have watched r1bs streams ( if they were available ) on his channel ... R1b just does a much better job commentating and its far more interesting to watch.

Professional Tournaments wont gain any popularity because they r a niche thing, the average blitz player ( 48% ) won‘t be interested in who wins the spring season etc. or „will ra1d or eg- win this match“.... Most of those players do not even know the top clans on their server.

Yet it’s understandable, its a game to have fun and if you just wanna have a good time you can play some blitz. The average player just won‘t show any further interest in tournaments or wont care.

Thats why you can‘t grow the tournament scene and wargaming realized that too... there is just no interest

[thorn shale]

Really good points Fugit! I also wish that WG could show some love to other tier X tanks because it's boring to see teams using same setup, it would be more interesting if many other tanks could receive a buff in order to to make pro tournaments more entertaining.

[limber lintel]

Its harder than you think to change cw meta, without screwing randoms up too much

[knotty tundra]

Todays streams yet got still rewards, but in another way.
Wargaming is giving out so many battlepasses in every stream they do, why?

Cause otherwise there would be only 500 people watching who are truly interested in what is being announced.
If you advertise the stream on the discord server and announce a giveaway, 2000 people will watch.
The big interest just isnt there at all... I bet some players wont even be able to recall what got announced in the stream, because all they do is spam their ingame name into the chat in order to win something!

[opaque bone]

^^

[hollow bolt]

This killed me 😂😂😂

[slim blade]

😂😂

[warm snow]

how’s team winrate for pys calculated again? I’ve forgotten

[sinful crest]

nope

[thorn shale]

cringe guy whos really mad :((

[onyx hare]

Where do we LFG tournaments

[winter swallow]

Tbh I don't think any of the streamers or CCs know what the issue behind this is. Another implementation hurdle for WG AFAICT.

[forest matrix]

@latent olive very interesting stuff there. I also believe ppl do not get interest in pro stuff mainly cause they don’t relate to any of the clans or players.
There is no story behind the clans : lot of them band and disband, lots of them are not linked to one country, there not even a small rivalry to tell about like it was between r2k lgn.
Even more true for the players : the average blitz players would not know a single top player I believe. You don’t know his age, his face, his nationality etc...
All in all there is no story, no feelings no passion. So why would u watch instead of... playing ?

I mean I think the only ppl we actually relate are the streamers cause we get to know you and somehow like or dislike u
(I realize maybe my arguments are valid only for EU)

[delicate rain]

Yeah I feel ya, and I'm in the middle of the USA. You are correct from a human perspective, you can't because there is so little visuals of humanity like you see with real life video of real people.

[winter swallow]

It's true. Paradigm is 7STAR who have the biggest fan base going. When they play and are streamed - they have a die hard following who tune in.

[latent olive]

@forest matrix we do have a good following from various communities, such as the Finnish for W1N, Germans for RA1D and they are always a crowd drawers, even APA and to an extent SOULS with the Polish community. Oddly some of the general player base just want to feel a bit closer, I mean I did a Tier 8 Season Coin with VIBES last night, with the VC chat, and surprisingly had quite a lot watching, because they feel 'closer'. Not saying that would work for mainline tours, ofc it wouldnt, but for Season Coin and QT's it allows the general player base to really get a feel for tours and kinda be part of the action, rather than just watching so to speak and not understanding what is truly going on

[winter swallow]

Being able to dip into team comms mid battle as a commentator would be awesome.

Think we'd need TS to do it right though. One server, multiple rooms. Get teams in a room each and have a the streamer move between them.

Need both teams on board first though.

[sly axle]

Average of the top 7 winrates on the team.

[noble star]

@winter swallow WG could use Discord for that. Easily done to give permissions to one team for one room and the other team another room, then give commentators the ability to enter both.

[winter swallow]

Yes could be done on Discord. If you could get everyone on TS though it would be logistically easier.

[limber lintel]

Also player view for commentators, would be nice for them to hop into what the player is doing, like e.g. a TD, what are they aiming at, etc.

[upbeat iris]

Aim markers could help, activated by commentators, like in WGL

[slim blade]

Having streamers dipping in and out of tournament voice calls is quite possibly the worst idea I’ve ever heard

[surreal hinge]

Lol

[radiant kelp]

I agree

[thorn shale]

Yeah, WG could learn a lot for an example from CS:GO scene.
Also in my previous clan the problem was that we had majority PC players and we couldn't enter the big tournaments

[limber lintel]

Or PC, its already there for commentators on wotpc

[winter swallow]

I asked for this before. WG said it wasn't worth developing.

...

Which you can read as they aren't able to do it... /would be a waste of money.

[thorn shale]

For an example I made previously on my YouTube channel a 29 minute long video about a huge complex drama which happened in my previous clan, I guess if I would make the names in my video not anonymous and if other YouTubers would start sharing they own experiences as well in clans then maybe more people would be interested about tournament stuff

[thorn shale]

it would be awesome to prove them wrong, if games like Counter Strike, Valorant, Dota etc. made it then why WOTB can't make it :)

but I think if we want big esports scene, then the first step is to allow to play PC players as well in touch tournaments because as I said with my previous clan we couldn't enter the big tournaments because majority were playing on PC, even at one point we were beating pro clans but we couldn't make a name for ourselves because we didn't had enough touch players

[leaden belfry]

Perhaps I'm one of the exceptions with this, but I don't watch/stream tournaments for the players, or teams specifically. I watch/stream tournaments because for me, it's the pinnacle of gameplay. It's what happens with you've got teams that are communicating and playing together, rather than individual players or a toon, etc. To me, it's the full potential of the game that'll never been visible or even applicable to random battles or ratings.
Because of that, I enjoy the most tactical games most. Rushing and focus firing is fun, but it doesn't make for the kind of beautiful gameplay I enjoy most.
But, I'm one of few there. Some people watch streams because they just like watching streams, other because they follow a team or clan and such. Most people that watch tournaments will only watch it if there's rewards.
They don't care about tournaments whatsoever, what happens in them or anything. They'll have the stream playing in the background and generally won't even be watching except to see if they can switch it off yet. It's nice of wargaming to add rewards to streams - it helps our channels grow a bit - but overall I don't feel it raises interest in tournaments at all.
The group of people that genuinely cares about tournaments or watching them is tiny. They're just very vocal in here.
While I regret it being the case, I do understand wargaming investing only very little in the tournament scene. It just caters to too small a part of the playerbase

And quite frankly, if we'd need clan drama to make tournaments interesting, I wouldn't want to be a part of it >.>

[crisp shore]

There is not that much we could do as streamers and commentators to attract more audience to watch tournaments. As a commentator, I'm against the idea of jumping into teams' comms midway while watching the battle. While it gives an insight into how teams call, it removes the purpose of a commentator in the first place -- why do we not watch players' POV streams instead? A commentator is here to communicate with the viewers what is happening in the match and what can be anticipated from both teams (cap advantage vs. disadvantage, HP advantage vs. disadvantage, position advantage vs. disadvantage). Comms could only give a one-sided view and frankly speaking jumping between comms can confuse the viewers.

We streamers have tried to raise the profiles of tournament scenes with streams related to tournaments, and for me the organisation of BPC to raise the profile of WoTB eSports. Streamers only have finite time to promote the eSports scene sadly, and real life often is not worth investing for WoTB, as I have been largely dormant due to university work and exams that have caused me to cease doing Friday Night with Wild completely, and reworking of some statistics with indicators. We do not work full-time on this, so I believe Wargaming has the biggest responsibility in raising the profile of WoTB eSports.

2018 Twister Season is one of the best promoted seasons by Wargaming. In this season, there are clan banners for top 8 if I remember correctly. Besides, there are crates for different teams that you can open through watching streams or playing in-game battles. This is also when I see a general support of different teams in random matches with the clan banners. It was discontinued for later Twister Seasons and interest did not increase much from 2018 Twister. There is so much Wargaming can do, including:

• Clan camos, banners and avatars
• Rewards for killing or inflicting damage on participants of Season Championship (SC) teams
• Prediction games on matches in SC

[leaden belfry]

I'd be very much against the inflicting damage or killing rewards - top players get highly focused as it is without people actively trying to block, push or completely yolo them (depending on side) as it is >.>

Honestly, unless wg does a 180 and actually invests heavily in tournaments, I don't think things will change much

[crisp shore]

The main idea to garner more interest from more players in the game is to branch out to those not watching us, and retaining that base. To begin with, Wargaming should consider inviting regional streamers (rather than regional streamers to apply themselves) and Blitz content creators with a big fanbase to follow the games in the seasons. This must also be incorporated with the change of how streamers are allocated to spectate the teams -- create a new role for them instead of capping the number of streamers per team. Often the regional streamers have more viewership than us and have been very popular among the community that the streamer is working with. It also helps when the coverage is available in many different languages, as often English is not the first language of a lot of people playing this game, hence these regional streamers have the advantage with language to communicate better with the community.

A crazy idea to rework the portal is to have automatic pop-ups that allow you to input for example damage done by one team, or the player, and to win rewards for guessing somewhere near the amount. In this way, viewers do not earn much by just leaving the stream in the window, and more for following the stream. Rewards regarding prediction have been largely popular among viewers and have shown to retain a good number of people watching the stream. Wargaming could try to head in this direction such that people warm up to eSports more, and fewer of those people who show no interest to eSports and support to participants at all (otherwise known as "key munchers")

[leaden belfry]

However, there are things that -have- changed over the past few years to cater to tournament players and enthusiasts.

• We went from one season to two, to now four
• Twister prize money was literally doubled
• More than just the RU server gets announced and followed
• Quick tournaments were added, along with tournaments across other tiers
• There's prizes you can earn/buy specifically by playing tournaments
  -A new seeding system is being worked on. It's slow going and will take a lot longer than any of us would like - but at least it's coming
• issues we address get actual answers. Not necessarily the answers we hope for, but they get answers.

With all our (understandable and legitimate) complaints, I do feel we need to keep that in mind too.

Also, Jack, no offense, but the youtubers wg generally asks (before we became the streamer bunch we are now) aren't interested in tournaments. Back in the day, Bushka has always refused, Sk8 did it for exactly one tournament series, Martin always said yes and then cancelled

For Twister 2018, they invited Brian and asked no less than 3 other youtubers before eventually asking me

I get that wg doesn't chase down youtubers, because the larger ones generally don't care enough and won't stream tournaments to begin with

Droodles is the exception, and there's -always- issues with him throughout the seasons >.> (have talked with him a lot about that throughout several seasons, he knows my thoughts)

Bushka's literal reason for always refusing to was that it didn't earn him anything

And that's saying something. It shows how small the part is that actually watches, even with his following

I'd love to see the portal reworked and more involvement from there, but judging by the WhErE aRe My KeYs spam, I find that I'm a little cynical as to whether that'll work or not and actually create more involvement

[ember marlin]

I liked the keys I think is was great for promoting the tournament scene
Problem was not the idea it was the execution and also people whine a lot

[leaden belfry]

I fully get that too. It's a choice of streamers

When I first started getting involved with streaming these, I had no laptop that could run Blitz so I was attached to specific players, like in replays or after you're dead in game. While this did allow for more specific views, it also made it easy to lose track of the whole

For me, personally, I choose the birdseye view because I see it as my main "mission" to explain to the viewer what's happening overall, what needs to happen to get a certain result, and to show movement

Everyone in this chat, save for the ones sometimes looking for teams, knows exactly how to do that from a player's perspective too

But the general player imo definitely doesn't

So it also depends a lot on who the streamer is streaming for, so to speak

As for players streaming their own games - while that's great, I'm always fearful that also gives a lot away - especially if voice communication is also included

Fine for not so serious levels of tournaments, but much riskier the further you get (even though that's also way more interesting)

[ember marlin]

Bluestacks isnt allowed for pys right?
Asking for other people
Does it just not work or is it just cheating

[pastel tartan]

emulators are forbidden yea

[toxic lintel]

i agree with @crisp shore if you want more activity, should introduce clan camos, clan banners, some kinda betting system for teams along with in game rewards if the team you chooses wins. twister 2018 was the closest thing to this. if you want to provide incentive to get involved in watching tourneys you have to implement something more than just watching a random stream for keys in the eyes of most blitz players. they need to be given more incentive to actually learn more about the comp scene and actually have an interest to see how it plays out. watching a random stream for keys does not give avg players any reason to go beyond that

[thorn shale]

^

[winter swallow]

Fantasy football but for Blitz.

Literally why fantasy football even exists in the first place. Hell. Wg could set it up so number of random battles you play between dates X and Y earns you credits to put players into your roster.

So say 1k battles in month before twister gets you max purchasing power.

Then you draft a team of tournament players and their in game stats are your score margins.

The league pays out in game prizes only so no legal hoo hah.

People start following and learning players and teams to make sure they draft the best roster possible. Like. The nfl does it and is worth IDK how much more than wg.

It would be pretty simple to replicate and could drive up regular game play and tournament viewing figures for blitz in one fell swoop.

[barren gate]

Whatever, clans who use 100% wont even be in top 4, btw wesh @green orchid

[green orchid]

wesh le sang @barren gate

[thorn shale]

well they dont want top 4 xD, they just aim for top 8 and CoOl AvAtaR

WG not reading any of these anyway xd

[jovial field]

F

[latent olive]

Fact remains majority of 'random' players arent interested in CW, simple. They are attracted to the streams by the giveaways, be it boosters, keys or whatever. Most of the 'random' player bases doesnt even know who the top clans are in real terms, let alone the players in those clans. Talk about the 'bigger' YT'ers doing tours in order to gain even more coverage, well to do that they still need to hold their audience and as most of their streams revolve around their interaction with the chat, something that cannot be done in tours due to the delay, most would switch off. Most people watch YT'ers streams because they want to see the YT'er play or in the vain hope they get into a battle with them or something. These are things that tour streams do not offer and never will. There is therefore a disconnect between the majority of random players and the stream. Commentators are there to try and give the viewer a feel of what may or may not be happening, but the fact remains unless the audience is interested in CW from the get-go then they will lose interest unless there is a giveaway.
How do you remedy this? All the streamers do their best to make it engaging and as interactive as possible. They promote themselves wherever they can and they give up their time etc in order to ensure as many games are covered as humanly possible. WG have moved forward massively in trying to bring the CW scene to the wider audience. WG promotes the seasons as much as possible, but in some respects the clans also need to self promote. Streamers also try to promote the seasons in advance, but streamers dont have the reach that non-streamers have because streams dont bring in views, videos do that. Maybe clans would consider doing quick interviews before, during or after the streams, to engage the audience more? Either way, to expand all parties involved need to do more and think 'outside the box'. Anyway, Im looking forward to streaming tomorrow lol

[thorn shale]

Im sure everyone in top CW would be up to be interviewed by any streamer

Edit: in fact ppl like Jack already used to interview team captains every stream day

[narrow meteor]

lol Fantasy Blitz would be awesome

[latent olive]

@thorn shale and Im serious. The clans are generally 'followed' in PYS rather than the bracket, so having a quick chat before kick off, asking who they consider the biggest threat, what mood they are in and just mundane stuff like that goes a long way in engaging the viewers oddly

[cobalt panther]

Imagine Interviews like they have for the Premier League for instance

as in 'Press confreces'

[thorn shale]

Yeah i totally agree. I like being interviewed and watching other interviews. But its nothing “‘new”, jack already did it a lot. And it would be good if he/other streamers do it for spring aswell

[latent olive]

@thorn shale but thats the thing, everyone expects the streamers to think up these things or for WG to do more - honestly the clans need to reach out also and not just sit around and wait. When it comes to tour streams, there is no competition as such because we all stream different clans. Yes some get viewers because they like that particular streamer, but most are watching because of a particular clan, especially if EG, RA1D, APA or W1N. As I said the only way this gets a bigger audience is if all parties work together and all do more. It all depends what people actually want from the CW side tbf and sometimes, and sorry to say this, but it can be a nasty environment with streamers not being respected or appreciated and as such avoided. That doesnt help the cause if the truth be known. I get people have favourites and such, but for a few days a month surely such petty things can be dropped and if everyone is really intent on making CW something to watch then just get it done

[thorn shale]

Ye but i cant tell u :
Fugit interview me !!! 😡

Regarding to the “clans cant just sit and wait” point...

Idk. What u want us to do? If theres any good ideas im sure some clans will do them

[latent olive]

@thorn shale If I get you, I will!

What do I want clans to do? Simple, interact with us streamers more. Talk to us outside of the streams to consider what we can all do, idea wise, to make it even more entertaining and engaging for the viewers.

I do actually interact with a few clan leads, like IMMOR and ofc VE1L, outside of streams to try to think of what we could consider to get more people engaged and watching and I still wait in hope that some will pop onto the coffee chat streams!

[cobalt panther]

What if the streamers/YouTubers make a video about each clan that played in top 8. With each players home country/name/age (if they want to say it ofc), character trades, playstyle and motto. Just so the viewers can get to know the individual players of the clan a bit more too

Edit: clans themselves can do this too ofc

[crisp shore]

I will try to do it for Spring

[thorn shale]

Well i like what Wildoneshelper was making... interviews, talking more about each top team roster, he got to the point that he asked team captains for info about it. This type of things related to getting to know better the teams im sure it will attract more ppl. Thats my fav idea for sure

[crisp shore]

Besides, I would have loved to promote Spring Season beforehand and hype it up way bigger than what I did in Winter Season. Sadly, real life has to come first and that has unfortunately used up a ton of my time and I was unable to focus on this.

[latent olive]

@cobalt panther because that takes an age to do and not all the streamers have the time to promote the clans & that’s my point. Sometimes there is a total misunderstanding. Streamers don’t stream for the views/subs in CW, that’s merely a benefit. If we were truly doing it for that then we wouldn’t do it, period. Tour streams don’t bring the views unlike vids. No doubt none of us would mind in ‘promoting’ clans in a balanced way but again we can’t be expected to do it all alone and also need clans to reach out to us also. We need to work together to benefit each other, but only if the interest is there and that’s the question really: is the interest actually there?

[thorn shale]

But fugit we wont go and send u: “look this is list of players and interesting facts about team go tell it in stream”

Its not cool... its ur content and if u need anything from the clans im sure all will help you instantly. But its not like i am now telling u what to do... u will choose since its ur stream. But all top clans are willing to help if asked. Im sure there’s interest

Edit: ye well some clans maybe arent interested and its normal. But prob huge number of them are willing to help @crisp shore

[cobalt panther]

Excactly

[crisp shore]

I do think interest is there hence probably why there is an improvement of my Winter Season streams than Autumn Season streams overall without the rewards. That being said, I do admit I stream for more interest towards CW in general hopefully with better views than previous streams and more subs. 😂

As for clans to cooperate, sometimes some clans do not respond to me at all or wasn't given a concrete response, not that I'm salty on clans but sometimes things happen too 😂 (and some clans refused to be followed and interviewed)

[narrow meteor]

@crisp shore blitz is your life now

[crisp shore]

Hardly, stopped playing Blitz when I finished my Battle Pass 😂 Blitz being my life would mean I would live under the streets sadly 😦

[latent olive]

@thorn shale in fairness I’ve been doing tour streams for over a year now across all 4 servers and even the challengers tours, in fact I was the 1st to ever stream challengers I think, and I reached out on numerous occasions with no success, which is fine totally up to the clans no problem from my side. All I’m saying is that I see a lot of complaints regarding tours a lot asking for ‘more’ but no one really doing anything about it tbf. And as Jack says above, some just have zero interest whatsoever and we then are viewed as begging for views or something. Honestly sometimes the streamers are totally under appreciated and many don’t realize we do this for the clans and CW not just ourselves. Trust me if some of us didn’t care about CW we wouldn’t stream, we wouldn’t be in here and we wouldn’t pressure WG for changes that do not actually benefit us personally. I mean I did a 2 hour RU challengers stream for 12 viewers! Most would give up but we tour streamers don’t think that way because it’s not fair on the clans

[thorn shale]

Well i do believe u fugit. And I always supported the streamers. At least from my team you can expect a positive answer on whatever you guys need. But i still think not only us are willing to help you. Ofc some teams wont do it - and its respectable. But a lot of other teams will be there for the streamers. And if someone thinks you guys make it for the views... well they are probably not very smart...

[crisp shore]

As I said before, since streamers are working voluntarily and not full-time on stream coverage and Wargaming is working full-time, I think it is reasonable to say Wargaming needs to be the one that should promote eSports the most, not that streamers and teams have no stake or responsibility in this promotion though, but something that could be achieved by Wargaming when time and real life is not on our side

[latent olive]

@gusty jacinth I do this! I throw together tours on Asia and EU for anyone to jump in and play. I jump in on random QT’s and season tours in order the get more interested in the scene. Yes I will even do a vid on tours, like I’ve done before, but it all requires not only time and effort but also support

@crisp shore but they will only do that IF the viewing figures and interest go up. WG will not invest resources, other than the 2 currently, on something that 99% of the player base isn’t interested in and that’s the entire point! Majority of the base isn’t interested in the stats or the technical side, they want to see action, feel involved and understand how it could benefit them. Trying to hit the balance between those totally interested in stats etc and those who couldnt give a damn is the crux.

[thorn shale]

@latent olive btw, Can I know who you'll be streaming first day of pys in asia?

[latent olive]

@thorn shale I wish I knew lol it’s not like it’s later today! @gusty jacinth it’s not easy and YT is both useful and totally not useful at the same time! I’d love to get like the YT’ers to make their own teams and maybe see if they get pitted together, that could generate interest in others but not those who play this game purely as a filler or a bit of random venting

[slender flare]

The system is still as bas as it was in 2018 , something has changed at all ?

[toxic lintel]

^^ that would be sick

[narrow meteor]

we would never get korah to block for teammates

[dreamy bolt]

@crisp shore if you are what servers pys will you be streaming

[radiant kelp]

@thorn shale imposter

[delicate rain]

I don't get how to watch these events. Last time there was a button on the screen to feeds. Also, I would like to play in them but it is not conducive to my after hours work schedule. Would be nice to do Pick-up matches 24/7

[thorn shale]

Pls dont make us watch embedded streams again on WG website. There is alr an option to link ur google account to WG account. Use that and drop keys for watching on yt directly for god's sake

[rocky crystal]

Tourney should maybe be made into a bracket of some sort? Like you qualify into a high or low bracket and fight from there. Imo, one of the reasons why ppl arent interested in tourneys is that if youre a completely new team and pull a decent team, youll just annihilated, but if you got put into like lets say a newbie bracket, you would fight similarly skilled opponents. However this will be unfair for those in upper league fighting against each other non stop. We should perhaps have a special t6 or t8 tourney like what we had for summer in t8 in 2020 but w summer season so the pros can play their normal seasonal tourneys while the less skilled team can perhaps compete for lower tier summer t8 tourneys. This way most of the good teams will be playing in a season tourney unless they chose to play tier 8. This way the weaker teams have something to fight for without getting rekt by ppl competing for big seasonal tourneys. This can possibly be done for t6 but ofc, they wont be getting those op camo and stuff but maybe a dedicated camo and small rewards for those tier tourneys? Would add a lot of variety and fun without getting rekt. This is just my opinion btw.

[upper oar]

you must know that 1% of people will actually read that wall, right?

[thorn shale]

Less than 1% XD

[winter swallow]

Not the first 😉

[crisp shore]

@crisp shore if you are what servers pys will you be streaming
@dreamy bolt Only Asia and EU for PYS this season

[dreamy bolt]

Very nice

[crisp shore]

Would love to follow NA as well but sadly could only do it for Championship/Challengers!

Meanwhile, Fugit is following FEAST tonight! https://youtu.be/MZIUjvRxVrI

[latent olive]

Thats why I said 'I think' as I wasnt actually sure

[gleaming pollen]

I streamed last spring the challenger finals from my perspective as well

[thorn shale]

Blitz is made to be a casual game with fun modes, 183 kv2 fun big damage and random battles. You don't watch good players and think what he's doing is omg epic I wanna farm random 40%ers like him. And you can in fact enjoy the game while being mediocre, so tourneys will always remain such addition like anime tanks in case someone was attracted by this.

[vital obsidian]

Would be nice get back gold-silver-bronze series instead of qt’s for offseason

[dreamy bolt]

@latent olive are you doing just asia or others too

[latent olive]

I should be doing EU also and I have put my name down, if needed, for NA. I wouldve done RU/CIS but the timings conflict with EU 😦

[thorn shale]

True. I have so many tickets 😴

[limber lintel]

or for the fact that so many people would prefer to play people of their own level, if WG would invest in making this (bronze-silver-gold leagues) as a tournament format, I think the tournament scene would grow massively tbh

[winter swallow]

^ also helps resolve the strongest vs. weakest MM which is needed when all years are in the same pool.

[limber lintel]

anyway, GL everyone this season, may the seeding be ever in your favour

eyes on ASIA, in a bit, 👀

[dreamy bolt]

@sweet flax if i ahd it my way i wouldnt have it playing @dim pivot yeah i gotchu now sorry I misunderstood that

[limber lintel]

in blitz itself it's weighted tho, if ur referring to that

[sweet flax]

mate you are literally using a 100% wr account. YOU are part of the problem

[dreamy bolt]

If i had it my way the winrate seeding would be gone and it would be a different method. Edit: @dim pivot i agree that asia is pretty fair but others not so much

[dim pivot]

Eh its not as bad on asia i guess since the teams that deserve top 8 make it

[limber lintel]

no, the teams doing it aren't the problem imo, it's WG not undertaking quick action, teams are just trying to not be the ones getting the constant bad seeding,

I mainly blame WG for this, tbh, altho I do find it immoral to use them (100% accs)

[thorn shale]

Just make it full on random

[winter swallow]

WG used that in 2016 and it was not great. Admittedly, tournaments also used Encounter Mode and that too was not great. However, it was the only mode available at the time 😅

[thorn shale]

2016 was like 45 years ago, we have the technology to rebuild the Mines Tournament Meta

[limber lintel]

xD, it's random now anyway basically, everyone bunched up with 100% accounts

[pastel tartan]

Prove you skill #1 EU
3very - [EG-]
https://youtu.be/v-wXZz0aDXM
Fugit - [RA1D]
https://youtu.be/7qjk7eyGlu8

[radiant kelp]

oooo

[proud holly]

and so it begins

[thorn shale]

@winter swallow @leaden belfry you dont stream? 😢

[leaden belfry]

Not today or tomorrow

I'll be streaming from Friday onwards, the second days

Have to take my special therapy track into account, so still can't stream "full schedule".
But I did take the week of Professionals off of work, so I can manage more then =)

[thorn shale]

Ah okey 😅 i hope Brian will start streaming too

[winter swallow]

Would stream but not been asked to.

[sinful crest]

What a shame

[thorn shale]

@frosty nexus hi - i think you should invite rolling to stream... likeee how to say... hes very good at it and the numbers he gets show it perfectly...

[narrow meteor]

^^^ pls

[sonic iron]

+1

[thorn shale]

Not enough good clans to cover sadly

[radiant kelp]

Yesss I agree

[sinful crest]

^

[muted ore]

Dear players.
To avoid technical problems during the "Prove your skill #1" tournament, we had to move the battles of the final stage one day ahead (from April 27 to April 28).
The time of battles will not change.
We apologize for the inconvenience.

[untold tinsel]

wait so not day 1 but day 2

[pastel tartan]

day 1 stays, day 2 got moved one back

[untold tinsel]

@muted ore why not invite @winter swallow to stream NA server so we can have more streamers on NA other than fishy

[pastel tartan]

fugit is also there for NA so its not just fishy

[sinful crest]

forget NA, more streamers are always better for the game it gives viewers more options to choose from and it also gives more attention towards tournaments.

[muted ore]

I can't tell you anything about this streamer, he hasn't contacted us

[jolly kite]

NA tournaments I've always wanted to watch but unfortunately their timing is bad for me

[ancient shard]

Who is fishy following for tonight's group stage?

[thick elk]

@winter swallow ^i guess they want you to contact them

[crisp shore]

Fugit's on GG- and Fishy's on PRAMO

[winter swallow]

^ also that. Also even if asked I’d be unable to cover NA due to time zones and current IRL constraints.

[vital obsidian]

So few teams in EU 🙄 wonder if wr 💯 has something to do with it

[chilly hemlock]

Have you tried contacting him?

[thorn shale]

well just contact them to stream EU at least pls

[untold tinsel]

so he has to contact you to get invited? makes no sense

[onyx hare]

what do we talk about here

[winter swallow]

Tournament stuff with the developers/for the developers to read. And general tournament discussion because there isn't a separate channel for that ^_^

[jolly kite]

At least do EU 💔

[winter swallow]

I could stream EU a mix of weekdays and weekends and Asia just over the weekends.

Tbh there are probably lots of other potential streamers out there.

@Hablmet#6319 4 streaming. Man knows more about mics than most.

[crisp shore]

LOCA vs. SNTY in quarterfinals...

[warped patrol]

XD

[spark pumice]

hold on to your gold people incoming obj907 in crates right at the start of a major tournament season

[patent quartz]

wow, i'm so hyped about this first tournament, really looking forward to our 1/4 final

[sinful crest]

Dam bruh

[narrow meteor]

They really moved day 2 to NFL draft night... pain

[crisp shore]

Top 4 (or 6) teams fighting for top 28 huh?

[green orchid]

@patent quartz bonne Chance le sang, WG back at it again

[thorn shale]

gl sp1t you got this ❤️ 🥖

[patent quartz]

like it's not like if 2 top4 teams were facing each other first tournament on 1/4, like is it too much adding one simple freaking rule?! just one rule could avoid this to happen, add 3x 0 after the the minimum amount of random battles required to even register

[sinful crest]

Anyone else going to play tournaments on controller ??🤩

[limber lintel]

Emulatoor ez, no ban pls

[surreal hinge]

Multitask 👀

[winter swallow]

Yes. Because WR seeding is not optimal.

The outcome we have now was entirely predictable and predicted.

This has happened so many times now. And the community has pretty much unanimously asked for it to be fixed... and we know there are players and teams just avoiding tournaments altogether until it is fixed.

Why? Because it is unfair that teams are arbitrarily penalised and have a system working against them - especially when there is a real money prize (however small) on the line.

Again - why after 5+ years of tournaments and tournament data, are we using random battle stats to determine how teams are seeded? Also why are we seeing world champion teams spend dozens of hours smashing white win rate teams?

I don't know. But there is so much that could be done better with just a few tiny tweaks.

[patent quartz]

but it's ok guys, we're once again gonna have a nice season, where all the top8 teams will be worthy teams

@winter swallow these teams can barely make it to top8 where they dont even get a cent, either they're seeing too big or they're just missing braincells, or both

[crisp shore]

It's ok guys we will try to hold Blitz Premier Cup again 😉

[proud holly]

Meanwhile, some teams are practically going to get Spring Top 16 for free just by the amount of booster accounts that they have. 😒

[void cairn]

When are the tourneys?

[thorn shale]

Hey WG, can you give links to Russian streams too in #game-news ?Some EU players want to watch it too

[crisp shore]

None of them are streaming tonight sadly

[sinful crest]

@thorn shale ufpnjh is streaming his POV

[sly axle]

Is the update going to interfere with the ascents?

[winter swallow]

Ofc.

[odd wolf]

No, @sly axle the 2nd day is rescheduled to Wednesday, if that’s what ur talking about

[thorn shale]

Also WG should make new seeding without letting players know it’s here. This way people waste money on 100wr accounts only to realize they don’t work anymore 😇

[thick elk]

https://youtu.be/ubmV-k1sDkA here is one Russian stream

[mild mortar]

Teams were moved up to Quarterfinals/2nd round based on WR vs the field right?

[limber lintel]

WG: "we will not put season coins on the same day as PYS"
also WG: "QTs go brrrr"

I'm sorry but, seriously?

[winter swallow]

That must be an oversight.... surely? I mean, surely no one realised that and OK'ed it anyways? Like that would be spectacularly dense.

[thorn shale]

It was year ago maybe when people were shouting about we are big WR and we want smash down small WR teams totally in beginning because it was too booring to play against these Small WR.s But still it is that. It doesnt help at all that your team is smashed right away. Dont get any feeling to game. Sometimes it is also frustrating that the team is directly seeded to round 5 then it is directly lost one attempt while playing against hardest on at first on quick tournaments. Actually today had quite nice quick tournament anyway.

[steel shell]

i mean it was OK for whole season last time so i am kinda sure this is meant to be as well

[winter swallow]

I don't have a decent face palm emoji. 😒

Yes. Let's run multiple tournament formats in parallel so we get smaller and less effective groups in the major series and ensure as few tournament stream viewers as possible... I think if you had to write a fictional corporate esports dystopia you'd struggle to get something as truly bizarre and self-conflicting as this 😆

[thick elk]

😂

[steel shell]

i forgot to put some spicy emote as well but we get each other now 😏

[thorn shale]

Why there cannot be like alman class and wanna be streamed class. On tournaments or something that lower levels could fight with each other while it is quite time consuming process to gather team for two loses.

hi me new cloob

[remote sleet]

100% Account creating machine goes brrrrrr tonight

[winter swallow]

To be fair - I told everyone several months ago to get cracking on those 100% accounts.

I guess maybe that is what wg wants? More "accounts" so they can talk about how the game is growing?

[steel shell]

well they are just getting more money so why would they "quick fix" this

[winter swallow]

Probably not a significant amount to justify decision making on.

[steel shell]

with the current amount of 100% accs its definitely not small amount of money id say

[upbeat iris]

But that amount of accounts isn’t significant compared to their total income

[winter swallow]

^

[wet tide]

Wg please just sell some smasher/annihilator crates and use that income to create a bigger team for CW content...

[silver vapor]

Update on tournament day again? I laff.

[latent olive]

The Tour wasnt scheduled on the same day as the Season Coin or QT initially, but considering the impact the update had on Asia during winter, the final stage for PYS 1 was moved to 28th. The issue in winter was that the Group stage was scheduled the same day as the season coin and as such there were less teams registered for the PYS. In current case the final stage is not open to all so it shouldnt make any difference at all.

[thorn shale]

I wanna see Wildones interview with Bella

[supple hearth]

Who’s Bella

[thorn shale]

woo actually his channel is so ded 😶

[thorn shale]

Me too

[crisp shore]

🤔

[thorn shale]

😴

[winter swallow]

It's 0000 CEST. What do you expect?

[proud holly]

idk what's going on with some of the servers but I hope the issue gets resolved soon enough.
I tried to log in again after this one and got a "server unavailable" message

[radiant kelp]

Omg why is prove your skill Tournaments the SAME DAY as quick Tournaments

[sinful crest]

it’s war gaming

[proud holly]

Wargaming is as good at scheduling tournaments as they at having servers that don't go sicko-mode 2 hours before PYS starts

[proud holly]

Yep. Gj WG

[proud holly]

Well at least this is a different message

[dense phoenix]

Just one of many messages that have appeared today !! So I’m unable to register our tournament today smh 🤦🏻‍♂️ 🌎☄️

[sinful crest]

😂

[spark pumice]

nothing like two top 3 teams on NA running into each other in the quarters

[supple hearth]

07

[sly axle]

Bruh -JJ has to beat 2 of the top 3 teams just to get a ticket.

We put an 80% acct on our roster to not get screwed over and we get screwed over anyways 💩

[latent olive]

wow there's a 4 in the morning now! didnt realise

[spark pumice]

JJ we all believe in you make the second day you can do it

[atomic tartan]

"UNIQ" 😂

[grizzled urchin]

sadge

[chilly hemlock]

1-36 if I remember correctly

[delicate rain]

Someone asked me to join their team for quick tourney and I did. Now I can't find which one it was

What a mess this process is.

[narrow meteor]

They were trying to harness the energy of the past UNIQ team

[sinful crest]

Two previous top3 teams face in quarter finals big brain 🧠

[proud holly]

The entirety of the NA blitz meta right now is just trying to determine what's the optimal WR for seeding.

[sinful crest]

Why would I be happy? It’s an ascent LOL🥱

[latent olive]

@narrow meteor thought you guys had that last game!
GG's all round tbf

[narrow meteor]

yeah rip, ggs to GG

[analog osprey]

Cheh

[supple hearth]

😂😂

[balmy cobalt]

and this evening....

[thorn shale]

hi😀

[thorn shale]

DWF ❤

[thorn shale]

They moved this games for tomorrow. You have time to make another 100wr acc bro 🤡

[balmy cobalt]

HAHAHAH fun, do u want to join too?

[thorn shale]

I dont need to abuse the seeding to get into top 8. But i guess u guys are aiming for... challengers ?

[sinful crest]

@balmy cobalt you’re not funny you’re boring

[crisp flare]

LoL

[full rune]

Who ping me ?

[languid sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-ping-discord-gif-20454921

[granite oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-ping-pingus-bingus-cat-gif-18905873

[limber lintel]

you are complaining about your seeding? or ...

[main belfry]

The winrate seeding is ridiculous. Clans with 3 Times 100% Accs and 1 battle are rigging this. Either WG fixes that, or everyone will do it. You cant even blame them. As soon as more then 2 Teams do it, the other Teams are forced to do it aswell in Order for them to have a fair Chance...

[balmy cobalt]

Sorry, but someome doesnt understand who must think other things

[winged saffron]

I thought this was English only server

[versed field]

I think this is the *ping" people asking for

[granite oriole]

bruh

[thorn shale]

2 do it doesnt mean everyone has to do it... theres still top clans every season that make it to top spots without abusing seeding.
The: “Some do it so i do it too” excuse is not valid here...

Edit: and ? Deal with it man. Get better. But dont rig/abuse to avoid them... The same starts? Well then get them FAIRLY

[main belfry]

It is if we meet 70%+ Clans in second round

In Order for us to have the same Chances to get into the next day tourney for additional cups, we need to have the same starts.

@H2O_Rikki#4661 did you even look at the EU trees? 70+ will not meet another 70+ until they are in the semi-finals

Gaseo your naive if you Think everyone has equal Chances for people with or without rigging. In 1 fair battle we would beat ZNTH f.e.

But we wont play against ZNTH because they get 50%ers in First and second round while we get 70%ers in second round

[steel shell]

you would meet them either way

[thorn shale]

Dude abusing system doesnt make things better and thats a fact. You ruin all the tourney and the fair playing teams

So stop using excuses and just get better at the game i guess. And then you can beat the top teams. Everyone started at the bottom

[latent olive]

Apart from the technical sound issues at the very start of the Asia stream, which was resolved (damn you OBS) there were a few things that were kind of new to the scene. For one I did 'map flyovers' with the possible strats that clans could employ along with positions, on all Servers, and on EU 3very and I teamed up and had a brief discussion on predictions of the final between RA1D v EG (as we were streaming both teams). If you happened to catch these streams, were these 2 additions useful or should I drop them? I know most streamers do a strat sketch overview, but I can never get it to work correctly for me so I decided to use the new 'freecam' in replay mode to try and cover that. Also is there anything else we could employ in the streams, to make them even more engaging, like chatting with the clans either before or after the stream or things like that. Let me know your thoughts

[main belfry]

@thorn shale but im not gonna tell my team "Hey Guys other people are abusing the seeding System, but we would rather loose then do what everyone else does"

We arent playing and Training for weeks just for us to say "Hey lets just get f'd by seeding all the time and not get our Progress payed off because other people found a way to make it easier for them"

We are Training and playing to get somewhere. If we have to use what other 80% of registered Teams do... Fine by me. So its either WG fixes it or everyone will do it at some point.

[thorn shale]

Thats not how it works. Look LOCA and SNTY faced each other yesterday at 1/4. Do u think they will start abusing seeding next tourney? No they wont. They DEAL with it. Thats what a fair team does. Deal with it until WG fixes this problem. But joining the abusers just makes everything worse. Your clan reputation, your reputation, the tourney. All goes down hill bcs more abusers join the “ruin the tournament ship” and all use same excuse: “they do it so I can too”
Pathetic

[main belfry]

I dont think its pathetic to join a majority. Since you Guys have 70%+ anyways, you wouldnt know in what Situation Clans are that are below 70%. You get good seeding anyways 🤷‍♂️

[thorn shale]

No?? Sorry but my team has lower than 70% avg. SNTY has 67, RA1D 68... what are you saying? A lot of top 8 teams have low wr and they dont abuse. Sometimes joining majorities is the bad choice. Its amazing how all wr abusers change their mindsets so hard. You are just tricking yourself

[latent olive]

Also, with Wildoneshelper busy with exams, I have asked if I can do a similar things to his 'Friday Night with wild', albeit differently ofc until he comes back. For that I was thinking of the following:
Tuesday stream, with final stage predictions and chat about tour so far
Thursday stream, with round up of tour
or just do both streams!
Do you have any preference?

[winter swallow]

An article burn.

[main belfry]

You litteraly meet your own Clan like dont tell me you Guys know what bad seeding is lol...

In the end you can cry about it as much as you would like, but the fact that WG doesnt seem to fix it, wont change. If i get an opportunity for my team to pay off their work, i dont mind doing something most ppl do anyways. The World is not innocent. Why should i stay with a minority that thinks its wrong, when its pretty much established for the majority anyways

Im not gonna be as ridiculous as to put in 7 100% accs, but if our caller has a 100% acc, why should he not spec on that one instead of a 60% acc. We dont need to be as ridiculous as APA or S4W to make like a whole team of 100%+. But if we have opportunity to get to 70 without sending 10 newly created Accounts, why not do it?

[steel shell]

yes we did meet our team and what? What can we do about it ? its just seeding man

[latent olive]

my poor feedback posts are lost in the drama(ish) 😢

[thorn shale]

Doesnt matter if u use 7 100wr accs or 1. All abusers are in the same level of pathetic.

@latent olive imo it would be good i liked that Friday night with Wild

[main belfry]

More then calling everything pathetic seems to be beyond your understanding anyways. Basically this is a waste of time. You Guys are gonna play your way, we are gonna play our way. But once again unless WG fixes it, it will be a thing common in Tourneys.

[thorn shale]

Haha yeah now its me the one that can’t understand things. Lmao

[pastel tartan]

even tho matches are tomorrow,for those interested, here are all the streams compiled
Prove your skill #1 Day 2
ASIA
Fugit - [FEAST]
https://youtu.be/vjxXHjMvDBk
Wildoneshelper - [GV]
https://youtu.be/oVZO3qOG0fM
RU
MEFODY - [GGAME]
<No Link Yet]
Pyroblast - [7STAR]
https://youtu.be/P-9PMcyBgEg
EU
3very - [EG-]
https://youtu.be/D3M6-9F26ZU
Fugit - [RA1D]
https://youtu.be/iJutZGwB4Fk
Wildoneshelper - [A1N1-]
https://youtu.be/AeNcejzzunw
NA
Fishy - [PRAMO]
https://youtu.be/Ph4BlhJBJBc
Fugit - [GG-]
https://youtu.be/ipA1NkXQKpY

[thorn shale]

Whoever puts 100wr agrees him and his team are trash and they’ll never achieve anything in any tournament lol
Like not a single good clan would never take such player

[wet tide]

Amen

[main belfry]

@thorn shale APA is top 8 and they do it lol

We had RA1D and FBI change Players for Tickets etc in the past aswell

[thorn shale]

Never will be top 4, not to mention anything higher. You’ll also be a top 8/16 hardstuck glhf

[thorn shale]

Well after all ticket abuses wg changed the system, and don’t forget RA1D did make top 4 so I think they were worth top 8.... 😂

[analog osprey]

Not normal loca vs snty in 1/4 srsly it was us this time but maybe others top8 teams. + with 5 ascents it will be very hard to come back

[steel shell]

@analog osprey i wouldnt be surprised if our teams meet in 1/4

[vital obsidian]

Top2 on season mby decided in first PYS 🥺

[main belfry]

@thorn shale I mean yea but that kinda is another point of mine. If WG would actually change the Seeding thing, we wouldnt need to discuss it. Its pretty easy to get a more accurate Number. Take the wr of all 10 ppls with their amount of battles into consideration. That already makes it much harder to rig the seeding.

[limber lintel]

this is what they are trying to implement (basically)

FOR AUTUMN **🙃 🙃 🙃 **

[thorn shale]

^ never could agree more with someone

[steel shell]

They are working on it thats all we know
It takes them whole eternity but what can we do

[thorn shale]

hi me new please someone play with me pls

No it’s not a good solution imo. Look my account, it’s the best example. I have 50k games and nearly 61% wr. In 30d stats I am at 75%, so if they bring such a seeding they rape players like me. Basically they force me to create a reroll account to play cw. So more rerolls will come for sure.

They need something else than winrate imo. But not my company, not my decision. We will see what they are going to change.

But to talk about the 100% wr accounts. After all if you get top 8 because you get a better matchmaking, do you think you deserve the place in top 8 more than teams like SNTY?

[vital obsidian]

IMO if going too much into moralization there are other aspects which can discussed aswell on how can get top positions/avatars - if allowed by wg its allowed and thats it

[latent olive]

@thorn shale I dropped you a DM on something totally unrelated to the current discussion (sent it to OG also lol) hope you dont mind

[balmy cobalt]

nice pic mate 😂

[limber lintel]

Also, I think there is no real rigging tbh, it's mainly, what are your MORALS?

Do you care if you "deserve" a certain spot, or do you just say, if I made it I made it, that's that

Pointing fingers like this I don't agree with, altho it is so stupid, but in the end WG is the one responsible for making sure the seeding isn't completely screwed

And they aren't as it stands, well they are, but only in like 6 months, which I find disturbing as I stated before

[main belfry]

@thorn shale our aim is not top 8 tbf. We want to be in Top 16. From there on WR doesnt rlly matter anyways because all Teams will be good. And i mean yea people with low wr would be kinda f'd if their 30day stats are much better.

How would they change it tho, like is there any suggestion currently existing? Because honestly its the only thing i can think of right now as a partially solution. Maybe there needs to be a Minimum amount of random battles or something.

@limber lintel i agree with what you said btw

[thorn shale]

Maybe implement a rating system or something that doesn’t have anything to do with wr. After all I don’t mind, we won’t be able to change it anyways.

Anyone who doesnt have more than 10k battles cant play - what about this? And then wr seeding maybe . Ofc rerolls of 10k but it will be more balanced

[spice briar]

This is why the top clans will remain top clans and the rest will never be able to catch up to them, top clans are not willing to use a bad system to their advantage just to come arround playing other good teams, they are not staying in a comfort zone where they just play average or bad teams. Those who use 100% accounts might be happy with winning some games but apparently they dont care about getting better at the game, we have seen how bad they perform if they manage to enter top 8 or even top 16, they just get shredded by good teams and thats a thing of attitude imo, those teams abusing the system aint helping the competition.

[limber lintel]

or themselves xD

[thorn shale]

^

And why top clans aren’t getting much better with time when their top 8 opponents are some REK3Ms or TFCZ

[winter swallow]

To be brutally honest - that's a fair point.

Exploiting a loophole to put your team through off the back of said loophole exploitation, rather than your team's raw ability, is the same. Whether it is ticket farming or boosting your team's average WR using 100% accounts - the same result is achieved. Teams that might not necessarily be the best or deserve a spot in the top 8 for that season, get one.

Granted however, it gets a bit messy* when you've got both running in parallel and some clans running two teams... so overall there are multiple extraneous factors which might be working against a team which is deserving of Top 8 but just misses it due to systematically getting bad seeding etc.

4th time recommending we seed tournaments using tournament battle data.

edit - * - in the case of RA1D and F-B-I it's messy because they got screwed by seeding MM, and whilst not excusing ticket-farming, it does slightly justify taking loophole countermeasures... even if that ends up affecting other innocent/fair playing teams as collateral.

[latent olive]

I am planning on doing a 'Tour Talk' stream later today, so please feel free to hope in a express your views on the Tour so far 🙂

[main belfry]

Well that was also my point. Our Clan is getting screwed by seeding rn. So the thought here is: Do we use it aswell so we get a Chance (after all there is a lot of preparation time etc behind) or do we stick to the current Situation and accept that we will probably not make it because of the seeding MM...

PS: with Proper seeding i have no doubts that we would get top 16 at least

[thorn shale]

My first tournament ever which was twister cup eu 2018 I got top 2 idk what’s stopping you

[winter swallow]

Mate - at this point - any clan that can use 100% WR accounts to boost their seeding should do so. WG have green lit it as within tournament rules. If you can stick even 1x 100% account to improve your seeding odds, it seems crazy not to. Obviously don't do this at the expense of team mates, roster stability etc. - my opinion only.

[versed field]

@thorn shale thx for mention rekem. I appreciate it.
Salty community

[main belfry]

Hmm yea that makes sense

@thorn shale not everyone is born with good skill, or has a lot of crazy tanks, perfect Teams etc. Its a work in Progress. You arent gonna wake up and be like hey easy today im gonna become best player in EU. We train a lot for tourneys etc and we improve. Thats why i want to give my team Chances to see that they can make it. If i have to resort to controversial tactics i might aswell do it so we at least can say we got somewhere.

[limber lintel]

if you aren't born with skill, why use the 100% account to make/try to make it easier for yourself, in the long run you will improve less than when just trying with what you have

that's my opinion at least, I prefer getting clapped in a training too, cus it shows where your weaknesses are, instead of just glorifying yourself with the wins you get

that's my opinion at least

[thorn shale]

Do you know at what hour?

[main belfry]

I mean while i understand this way of thinking, its also that a win can push the mentality more then a loose

If you keep wining you will enjoy what you are doing, and i think happy Players will Perform better then unhappy Players

[latent olive]

@thorn shale 19.30 CET

[wet tide]

You learn from mistakes, not from ‘so to say sealclubbing’

[winter swallow]

You get better by playing ratings - but have more fun in randoms. The game is 6 years old now... more... ... at this point, even Tier X is seal clubbing. Only ratings and tournaments battles can be touted as seal friendly...

[empty phoenix]

The seeding is super confusing. Strongest - weakest needs to be clarified. Does it count winrate only? Or do battles matter? Because the in game winrate and the winrate shown in the portal are wildly different.

[limber lintel]

top 7 winrates of team, unweighted average

[crisp shore]

It is following the figure in the portal - average win rate of the 7 best players in the team

[odd wolf]

JKR on NA had no WR boosters and only 1 70% wr account, and we got RGN 2nd round and still fought our way through to first place. I agree with u 100%

[empty phoenix]

My clan was 67% and we had to fight pramo second round. Granted we took a game, but other teams with less winrate were fighting other teams with less winrate. Pramo was also 67%.

[spice briar]

Exactly this is how it is supposed to go, few days ago we were discussing on how to make the game better, at the same time teams exploit loopholes, those are as responsible as WG for me, i just say enjoy getting clapped in next stages, this will definitely rise your fun, motivation and will to play

[supple hearth]

Not really

[signal comet]

🤓

[tired prawn]

😩

[glad sphinx]

Wao

[knotty tundra]

Thats the point...
You‘ll meet them later in the tourney which means u will place higher.

Which means ur rewards increase

[atomic tartan]

The exception doesn’t change the rule 😉

[odd wolf]

Jajajajaja

[vital obsidian]

Do you mean the rule about a player to play in finals need play 3 times in PYS to be able be on a pro or challenger team? What does that rule add, I do not get it.

[raw sundial]

can i get a tournament team

[odd wolf]

@vital obsidian in order to play in the pro tourney or the challengers tourney, players need to be in 3 prove ur skill tournaments with that clan. For example if I’m playing with JKR, I need to play 3 prove ur skill tournaments with that clan in order to play the pro tourney

[rocky crystal]

Bruh PYS is a clan thing, you cant join a pys team without being in the same clan.

Edited: Smh.... but you do need to join the same clan as your team if you want to play PYS, if not, no need to join clan. You can attempt to play pys without being in same clan as team or no clan and it simply wouldnt let you

[vital obsidian]

It does not say you need be in same clan in PYS and PRO/Challenger

[rocky crystal]

If you go to Blitz official website and tap on tourney and tap on brackets and type in your group number, it will show the entire bracket. WR has effects in group numbers, like first day in pys, if you look at group 3, there was rgn, jkr, purpl vs teams in the 50%s and a lot of insane teams compared to group 2, which had a little bit more wiggle room.

[thorn shale]

what if the clan you have played with in PYS kicks you before top 8? you cant join another team then? like wtf is this rule you are triying to make... are u scared of ur players leaving?

[rocky crystal]

WG has a rule that if any of your players leave before the Chellengers or Pro Tourneys ends, the team will lose 50% of its prize including avatars. Only 50% of the players get it. Thats what happened to PPSUC

[untold tinsel]

how do u lose half of an avatar

[glad sphinx]

lmao ikr

[thorn shale]

im talking about that. imagine its PYS 6, the last one. Then u get kicked. With this rule that Kouga wants, the player that got kicked wouldnt be available to enter another team. His season will just end up there. And thats not fair

[onyx merlin]

Just ask1, what if a player connect xbox1 controller with window. Does he count like PE player? Can he participate the professional tournament?

My friend has been tested, using the xbox1 controller in the training room, he has not pc player mark. Does it mean he's PE player when he's using controller?

[vivid citrus]

To receive a tournament award, a player must have participated in at least 3 tournaments in the "Prove your skill" series during the Spring Season 2021. Unless I missed another rule this only applies to receiving rewards not to the ability to play

[rocky crystal]

^^^
like you can join a comp team that got into pros or challengers and just sabotage them by leaving and the team will end up w half the ppl having the ava and the other half dont. .

[latent olive]

@vital obsidian @thorn shale My/Our bad (Streamers that is). At the end of Winter I wrote a report that highlighted numerous items, that almost all the other streamers then had input into.
This document did raise the issue of potentially 'selling' places on the Challengers/Pro tour and the recommendation from our side was to insert a rule whereby a player can only receive the awards if they had in fact actively taken part in the PYS in a minimum amount of games. It was not clan dependant but was active dependant.
The idea being, as an example, I am in VE1L and I also received a Pro Tour ticket and as such I couldve been selected and just sat on the bench, without ever lifting a finger in the entire tour yet get the Pro Avatar. It was basically suggested to remove this potential loophole and make the reward something it was designed to be, namely a performance & skill reward.
The rule regarding the leaving of players only applies during the Pro Tour not the PYS and is unchanged from last seasons. I/We did raise the issue that there can be valid instances for players to be kicked from the clan and 50% reduction seems harsh if applied to all instances and WG said they would consider this further. The general understanding is that the roster for the Pro tour is fixed at the start with no ability to change.

[vital obsidian]

Chill I dont want rule I am just wondering what is the point with the rule

[thorn shale]

well fugit imo as u said the perfect rule would be: the player has to play min 3 PYS doesnt matter with which team

[latent olive]

@thorn shale that was the intention and it is what the rule, as I see it, is. It is not clan dependant it is merely dependant upon the player actually having played a min of 3 PYS tours. It doesnt prevent players from moving clans between PYS & Pro/Challengers, it just means that if they havent played in PYS then the rewards will not be 'earned'.

[main belfry]

So basically to summarize: You need to play 3 PYS for a reward, and after all PYS are over, and Challengers/Pro start, no one should leave the Clan or get kicked (i guess that only applies to players in the CW-Team?)

Right?

(Edit: @thorn shale but didnt they say if you leave your team is gonna get only 50% of the rewards?)

[thorn shale]

If you try to leave your clan and game says you can't leave - you can't and if game says you can - you can

[winter swallow]

tbh I think team rosters should be fixed for an entire season. This deals with ticket farming, 100% WR accounts (ish) and issues linked to prizes etc.

Then the time between seasons becomes a "transfer window" for movement between clans etc.

This 5 min slow mode can do one.

I mean fixed roster from start of PYS to end of Seasonal Major.

[main belfry]

yea but lets say you got 8 people and 2 can not play for at least 2 pys´s for whatever reason. That would basically disqualify the team even though they might have another guy who could help out for these.

[thorn shale]

ye but it happens that the roster changes in the PYSs...

edit: ye rolling but if someone wants to change players... also what if some players has to stop mid season? @winter swallow

[latent olive]

@main belfry correct. Rosters for the Pro/Challengers are fixed prior to the start of the tour, which is why clan members are all given pro/challengers tickets, regardless if they took part in the PYS. This obviously allows for clans to then pick their most effective team, crucial if you say have 2 teams in PYS. The rewards only come at the Pro/Challengers tour and the idea of those rewards were that they are skill based. Therefore in order to obtain a skill based reward the player must have played x amount of PYS. What clan they were in during PYS is irrelevant, the actual playing part is.

[main belfry]

hmm alright i see, thanks for clarifying @latent olive

[supple hearth]

New rule?

[odd wolf]

Yes

[mild crypt]

Какого черта пропал голос после обновления

[supple hearth]

Хз лол

[tropic lotus]

i'm interested in playing professionals

[winter swallow]

No stop. Only play.

[untold tinsel]

@tropic lotus ok

[supple hearth]

Can u play using controller?

[glass thunder]

@muted ore @frosty nexus is playing from pc ( tc screen mode/ tablet mode ) with controllers allowed in pys tournaments ?

[glad sphinx]

Wow, so interesting, yeah... I don't think ur the only one interested......

[glad sphinx]

Это баг, вг сказали пофиксят

[supple hearth]

@tropic lotus @glad sphinx just join the team and you can make top 8

[tropic lotus]

im listening

[glad sphinx]

@supple hearth what team, I'm alr on team wdym

[cold dew]

what team omg did u mean u want me on ur team???

[vagrant coyote]

i dont have a problem u have a problem

[mystic osprey]

how time flies 😃

[odd wolf]

nice 3 accounts pickle

[glad sphinx]

Listening to what

[supple hearth]

Lmao

[glad sphinx]

Lolol @supple hearth this guy is funny hehe xD

[wicked snow]

@muted ore @frosty nexus there is no risk a clan loses their cups if they were to rename during the PYS?

[winged saffron]

Time to play the next ascents on switch for maximum gaming experience

[sand gazelle]

@odd wolf polaroid is also my kin 😌

[tropic lotus]

wtf

[graceful jetty]

So if a member hasnt participated in 3 PYS's they arent allowed to participate in pros or challengers?
Or would they not receive rewards from pros or challengers
Or is there no such rule

[sly axle]

Seeding is so bad you could have a blind guy throw darts at a spinning wheel with all the team names on it and whichever team is hit scores a bye. At least it would be random instead of the same undeserving teams getting it every single time.

[proud holly]

It's hiliarious how the main focuse of this season is on what's the best way to utilize a set of booster accounts.

[ancient shard]

yes.

[wet tide]

Exactly, rather have something completely random than something rig-able

[winter swallow]

that's actually a pretty interesting question.

[winter swallow]

Random byes are a comparatively good idea vs. how current system is working 😬

[frosty nexus]

@glass thunder the answer is in regulations: control type - touch. Not mixed, not PC keyboard and mouse, not any other controllers.

[raw sundial]

can i get a team for the tournament above 5+members pls i wanna join

[glass thunder]

but when you say touch and i have a touch screen pc that i can use touch controlle on my pc and play as same as ipad with bigger screen
then if i use controllers its should be allowed no?

[frosty nexus]

@glass thunder you're playing from PC. That's all.

[glass thunder]

rules say tc and not mobile devices no ? @frosty nexus

[balmy cobalt]

Why are u still talking about seeding (about the teams with 100% accounts)? People doesnt care what u think about them 👀 (and they are right to do that)

[wet tide]

Because people like you abuse it

[glass thunder]

@frosty nexus im not gonna use it (i don't even play this tournament ) but just saying that a tablet mode on pc make it a touch device as same as ipad
and by adding controllers you can use them on PC in tablet mode and i don't see any rule to ban that for this i did ask

[versed field]

its too late now u r banned haha XDDD (joke)

[balmy cobalt]

i know, but if wg allows that, it is ok; and everyone have to focus on own team (will see what happen this evening)

[limber lintel]

I remember that there was some1 from an ASIA team with a mouse sign next to him, cus he was playing his laptop in tablet mode, you can only enter the tournament room if you open the game in touch mode i believe, aka keyboard not attached, and the game won't register the keyboard if you plug it in after, thats at least how i suspect it works

[winter swallow]

Fugit hosted a discussion on it last night and I weighed in. I don't blame clans for using 100% WR accounts this season - but I (and many others) think WG need to fix it sooner rather than later.

[limber lintel]

👆

Edit: altho i do feel like its a bit immoral

[balmy cobalt]

I agree about that.

[thorn shale]

Yea we shouldn't blame people for being trash at the game. Why is this channel about the same thing everyday tho

[limber lintel]

I mean, they are just taking away the best training oppurtunity for themselves, namely a good team dissecting every mistake you make, which you can analyze and not make again, thats just my opinion, in the long run they only screwing themselves

Altho short term, they screwing entire seeding

[thorn shale]

This is a bit lmao ngl

[thorn shale]

Will see what happens? Well that u got the easiest bracket bcs u abuse the seeding. Cant u notice? Go play next PYS without abusing seeding and then we can see what happens, and maybe if you show you can have good results without abusing seeding the ppl will respect you

[limber lintel]

Because the issue is also always the same, 😂

[balmy cobalt]

The tournament didn't finish yet (i am courious what will happen).

[manic pewter]

EG win. Its pretty obivious lol

[thorn shale]

XD

[balmy cobalt]

(i was talking about my team 😂) it is pretty ovvius who will win

[wet tide]

Ye EG wins anyways whats the point xddd

[crisp shore]

EG- always wins

[opaque bone]

EG? More like EZ......

....I'll show myself out

[latent olive]

then surely the aim is to beat EG and to do that you just need the best players

[manic pewter]

Or couple of 100%wr accounts

[dim pivot]

@muted ore @frosty nexus the cup rewards showing up in game arent right btw

Atleast for me

[frosty nexus]

@dim pivot we already know about this issue and we will fix it asap

[latent olive]

dont think the 100% wr accounts would help really, not with that part, unless the idea is to get nice seeding to get EG to make fools out of you - then yep it helps

[manic pewter]

Not at all. To beat them you need real things at the battlefield and theres no easy way to that

[frosty nexus]

@wicked snow there is no risk. Your clan will own received cups anyway

[thorn shale]

So which spot will get your team at the end of the season? (In your honest opinion)

[tender swallow]

I do remember a certain clan that managed to get top 8 because of 100% Accounts in the winter season only to get crushed in the professional tournament in the first round

[wet tide]

Ye and I remember someone saying he disrespects rigging and now does it himself

[tender swallow]

But I do not attack anyone for doing it... I do not cry on this channel. We want to actually have a good time, win a few games and get top 16 where we can compete and hopefully get a good placement. There is no fun in having to fight way better teams and dont get qualified for the second part of the tournament. I may admit that our team is shit and that i have no respect for the game, but at least i am having a good time

[manic pewter]

Pc touch screens arent working that well to playing as i have heard

[glass thunder]

pc's with tablet modes have touch screnn so you can play as same as u play on ipad
@manic pewter yes its hard to play withem but wg allowed to use controllers so it make them ez
and instead of using emulator you just turn tablet mode on and play with conrtollers
and its should be allowed cause you are playing with tablet (on pc )

[thorn shale]

GG -RN-

[main belfry]

+1

Why does it show 40% CP if we have 50%?

@frosty nexus is that a known error?

[onyx merlin]

Actually, I can understand why PC player can't participate the professional tournament. But could be more mercy to controller players? Ofc u can't carry a PC to the Minsk But controller is quite PE. Moreover controller is quite equitable compare with touch. they are more difficult to use.

[glad sphinx]

No u cant use pc because it has some advantages and wg wants it to be fair, if it was allowed they would provide a pc in minsk....

[onyx merlin]

That’s what I said, ofc U cannot participate with PC, but use controllers is not something broke, actually is quite equitable with touch

[untold tinsel]

why would you even use a pc in Online Mobile PVP MMO Tank Shooter 3d War

[onyx merlin]

I have a friend totally unfavorable in touch, he can’t play touch because when he saw his hands playing, he plays suck. Another one just want to play with big screen.

Again, I said I’m not favor to PC, I just want to the controller can participate too. In spite of only use the PC or iPad screen

Use the screen, only. Not keyboard or something else. That’s all.

Wg ban PC because it’s not fair use PC in a professional tournament of a mobile game. It’s understandable. But using the controller is not something broke the fair. Actually it just help someone who suck with touch and have a chance to participate.

[radiant kelp]

playing pc on a mobile game is bruh

[untold tinsel]

why would we use a controller to play a pro series tournament if it’s just a worse way of playing. it wouldn’t make sense to start using a worse method in playing a game since playing mobile is “technically” worse than playing pc.

[onyx merlin]

I said, just give a chance to participate for controller players. What about NS players? They are controller players so they cannot participate professional tournaments?
Why don’t u understand? Is quite ez. Use the controller because someone suck in touch but controller is acceptable for them. Even more use the controller isn’t something unfair. It might be more difficult to use than touch.

[untold tinsel]

if they don’t have a mobile device with a touch screen. they cannot play a mobile tournament. it’s as simple as that. they will never host a big tournament for people off of mobile because it will not get as big of a turn up as if it was on mobile

[onyx merlin]

So NS players has no right to participate right? Ok, understand.

[glad sphinx]

Yes period. They can't participate controller wont be allowed, controller tourneys won't get big as mobile ones

Fix ur english u lober :lobster:

[balmy cobalt]

omg, idk... i find ridicolous to know what position will get every clan... and sincerly idc

[thorn shale]

If you dont care why do you abuse seeding? That doesnt make sense XD

[balmy cobalt]

Did u see if i am playing? Am i the leader of the team? Do u think that i decided that? Do u think annoying people is worthy? Come on, it is a fcking game. From yesterday u still cry about that, goddamn stop

[limber lintel]

if it's just a game, why abuse a loophole tho
🙃 🙃 🙃

[balmy cobalt]

Ok, people wants to waste own time for this useless argument... good enough.

[glad sphinx]

^

[narrow meteor]

Yoooooooo

[thorn shale]

yo chipot

[proud holly]

World of Seeding

[glad sphinx]

Chipy chan Wao, I love apx lots of lobers 🦞 🦞

[winged saffron]

Time to play this mobile game on the Nintendo switch

[slim blade]

When-you-cant-get-enough-mobile-players-because-your-clan-is-all-pc moment

[ancient shard]

as you should smh my head

[patent quartz]

to go alongside what gaseo said, you should (and so do others) prevent this from happening in your team, since you're disturbing the normal course of the tournament like all of these teams, i counted the teams, among the 36 top wr teams of this tournament, only 5 made it to the top8 in winter season, imagine, just imagine, how many teams are abusing the seeding despite knowing they wont make it, just to try to increase their chances of getting top8, stop being sheeps and remove these accs for everyone's sake (this also goes to everyone abusing that)

[glad sphinx]

lmao, thats just a RIP moment

[blissful kernel]

xd

[radiant kelp]

@frosty nexus why were the tournament finals live streams taken down from last autumn?

[glad sphinx]

same question tbh

[crisp shore]

Streams for 2019 Twister were still here so that was very strange for Wargaming to take them down

[thorn shale]

Where is a live

[mild mortar]

Will the tourney after pys be based on cups from now on or still wr?

[crisp shore]

Win rate still

[thorn shale]

Tournament server crashed? Were playing tier 6 and battles hunged during waiting queue for next battle.

[thorn shale]

So good that now streamers follow the bracket and not just the team, thanks WG

[frank forum]

?

[limber lintel]

+1

[thorn shale]

before the stramers followed one team, if that team gets KO the streamer cant see more games. So sometimes you see streamers watching first round and streaming ends cos their team got KO

[pastel tartan]

took me by surprise but i prefer it too

[thorn shale]

first map for semi finals: yukon
first map for third place match: yukon
less goo WG

[jolly kite]

What a great game you all do

[loud karma]

If someone need me for tournament i am available :V

[steel shell]

the maps are random, at least they were last season

[winged saffron]

In winter on NA there was Naval and winter mal like 3 and 2 times in 1 PYS

I think

[flat goblet]

That was always a thing for day 2 since brackets are drawn ahead of time. Day 1 bracket is the issue supposedly.

[narrow meteor]

So streamers can’t go through on day 1 but can on day 2? @flat goblet

[flat goblet]

More or less yeah. It has to do with bracket creation from what I understand.

[vivid citrus]

Day 1 is typically not as interesting as day 2 anyway

[analog osprey]

Depends the teams = )

[glad sphinx]

Yeah depends if all op team fighting each other, but on Na that kinda unlikely in the 1/16 1/8 stage

[spark pumice]

laughs in jkr vs rgn

[crisp shore]

Not for Asia server 👀

[supple hearth]

I hope there will be at least 40 teams next PYS

[sinful crest]

caught in 4K

[patent quartz]

yet haven't got neither the rewards nor the cups, and the site hasn't updated the ranking either, just saying.

[atomic tartan]

Bro u for real? Lmao

[thorn shale]

😂

[spark pumice]

u know i was using that as an example of wgs failed seeding system right?

in response to someone saying na didnt have any top teams meeting each other in the quarters

[sinful crest]

Caught in 4K

[narrow meteor]

poggers two top 4 teams playing eachother in the second round

[sinful crest]

At least it wasn’t group stage @narrow meteor 😢

[narrow meteor]

tru

[glad sphinx]

Where r my cups wg 😒 😤 😤 😤

[spark pumice]

Where are my keys wg📉

[sinful crest]

Where’s the updated ranking WG🥱

[pastel tartan]

Today's Streams:
Prove your skill #2 Day 1
ASIA
Fugit - [HLV]
https://youtu.be/4G7HoFGYWdo
EU
3very - [SNTY]
https://youtu.be/uPCfSPOwVkE
Fugit - [IW-]
https://youtu.be/_of1UjouzAs
NA
Fishy - [JKR]
https://youtu.be/i7AoN57csB8
Fugit - [APX]
https://youtu.be/OAZxGY2SEuk

[narrow meteor]

Fugit is on that grind this season jeez

[proud holly]

Fugit a real one

[crisp shore]

I wish I have the time for the grind this season 😂

[sinful crest]

luckily for me fugit is in my clan

[glad sphinx]

Very luckily😂

[analog osprey]

Bzzzz bzzzz

[sinful crest]

I agree with you bro @analog osprey

[thorn shale]

🐝

[next trellis]

🥞

[latent olive]

@sinful crest only coz you saw the light and realised I was OP 🤣
it was the day I rolled with Tails and smacked Droodles and Fishy in the same game that sealed that deal 🤣

[sinful crest]

Of course

[flat goblet]

You smacked droodles 👀

[narrow meteor]

@flat goblet your not safe, he said he smacked you too

[sinful crest]

^^^^^^

[glad sphinx]

Oof

[atomic tartan]

wonder if a replay is available on blac-i meant blitzstars, sorry

[limber lintel]

I see what you did there, 🥂

[glad sphinx]

Lmao, "blac-i I meant blitzstars sorry"😂 😂 😂 😂

[civic glacier]

👅🍌

[thorn shale]

👍

[radiant kelp]

Eggplant

[south folio]

🆘

[latent olive]

@flat goblet Actually I got you both lol you were tooning on Mines - Droodles moaned about ping ofc lol

[flat goblet]

nah nah nah, I don't think you got me in the end 👀 😅

[latent olive]

I streamed it - so I will go back and find it 👀
lol found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIpvywRs9C8 - time stamp 30.54, you were both in VK72's 😉

[narrow meteor]

@flat goblet damn he got you in 4K as well

[flat goblet]

dam he did get me

[analog osprey]

Bzzzz

[crisp shore]

Fishy is seldom in denial 😂

[spark pumice]

he pulled out the receipts and everything

[sinful crest]

All facts no cap

[patent quartz]

New in game background pls

[pliant peak]

Epic

[sly axle]

I’d pay good money for that

[proud holly]

Oh lawd yesss

[thorn shale]

Oi?

[latent olive]

however, on the plus side Fishy didnt moan about ping lol he took it like a man!

[analog osprey]

💪💪💪💪

[flat goblet]

I try my best to not complain lol, plus, strong opposition so I didn't expect to win

[terse perch]

Is the seeding system the only reason account sharing can get you banned in tournaments qualifying for challengers/professionals?

[chilly hemlock]

Those are two completely separate things...

Win rate boosting is people playing 1 battle and winning so that they bring up the teams average win rate

Account sharing is a player using someone else’s account for whatever reason be it skill or can’t show up

[latent olive]

@flat goblet we both had odd YT chats tonight so it seems
Anyway, off to try and get some sleep! 3 stream across 3 servers a day is draining lol

[flat goblet]

I wasn't paying attention, it's much harder without a second monitor that I used to have. Idk how you do all 3 servers, get some sleep dude lol.

[latent olive]

unfortunately we seem to have a lack of streamers this season 😦

[untold tinsel]

only if rolling were here

[sly axle]

I miss rolling

[opaque bone]

:((

[proud holly]

Rolling coming back is as likely as WG getting out a battle-weighted WR system by the time Summer Season hits

In the meantime, we shall continue with Spring Season, where every team isn't spamming booster accs, in order to avoid the hyper-uni teams

[ancient shard]

🤨

[sinful crest]

@frosty nexus is this still available? if not how many tournaments are required to receive a ticket for professional series

[spark pumice]

correct me if im wrong but i think the change was that you need to have played in three pys tournaments to get rewards from professionals and challengers i still think everyone gets a ticket

[latent olive]

Clans get tickets and as such all clan members get a ticket, regardless of whether they played PYS or not @sinful crest which is how I got a ticket from GMA lol

[jade fractal]

wg pls add tournaments in format 1vs1, 3vs3 like in wot pc, it's not hard to do...

[sinful crest]

@latent olive great to know, looking forward to have you on my team this professional season.

[thorn shale]

@frosty nexus @muted ore just a heads up in case you’re unaware: in the game client, the number trophies listed for the final stage of this current PYS tournament are all the same. It says it gives 1088 trophies for every position: 9-16 or 1st place. I assume this is an error

[frosty nexus]

@thorn shale hey, we already know that number of cups is showing incorrect. We are working on a fix.

[thorn shale]

@frosty nexus 👌

[thorn shale]

and the bug that has the tournament room notification even when the tournament room is over

[upbeat iris]

That will be fixed after a new seeding system was added

[narrow meteor]

Poggers

[dim pivot]

Tournament room invitation bug u mean? Coz i agree

[glad sphinx]

Thats blue dot triggers me so much

[mild mortar]

To WG devs:

For clans that dont make it into the PYS playoffs the tourney team should be disbanded as soon as they are eliminated.

Weird glitch where teams knovked out in first day cant join QT the day after as they are technically in a registered team despite having no matches to play.

Please fix..

[royal locust]

Is there any plan to bring people to Minsk come autumn season?

[untold tinsel]

sure

[sinful crest]

no COVID zoneeeee

[covert flax]

Agreeed!!!!

[thorn shale]

apologies for i do not know the socioeconomical climate of a former ussr state but i’m sure it would be safe and would be a change if it would happen

[atomic tartan]

i almost got sent to Siberia once already so it would be reassuring if things were to chill out over there

[crisp shore]

It's probably in Vilnius since they moved their headquarters to there

[royal locust]

Ah ic but will ppl be going there ?

[crisp shore]

At least a lot safer than Minsk but I think current pandemic might make things a lot more complicated logistically for people to come, particularly some regions have outbreaks lately.

[narrow meteor]

Just have it in Detroit 🔥🔥🔥

[atomic tartan]

g o o d b y e

[royal locust]

Come to nj we can have it in my chicken barn 💪

[sinful crest]

Why not make it in Texas no bovid rules 🙌🏽

[thorn shale]

update in PYS 2 xD?

[atomic tartan]

@thorn shale download and install between games 😂

[leaden belfry]

there's time to update beforehand, if you've got a bit of proper internet 😬

[vapid crypt]

Negative just come to New York 🗽

[lusty flint]

I accidentally uninstalled the game 10 mins before last years spring grand final💀

[royal locust]

Wdym my chickens r the best they will be blitz mascot 💪💪

[thorn shale]

watch WG move PYS 2 for tomorrow bcs ppl not updating the game

Some don’t even have the update 😂😂

[crude hull]

Particular update

[turbid sinew]

"we have also just released an update for iOS" at 19:35 poggers

[royal locust]

Ez

[gleaming pollen]

I guess we will play tomorrow then

[thorn shale]

this is so stpd WG - half the players wont make it on time, on my team we have some which their update is still at 10% hard stuck. Mine was 90% and got restarted. So now you will just move PYS for tomorrow, thanks for wasting our time and weekend... cant update game at morning or tomorrow... ez clap

[vagrant phoenix]

not poggers

[crude hull]

https://tenor.com/view/tense-tense-slap-tense-mouse-tense-slap-mouse-gif-19181131

[steel shell]

Why would you release "quick fix" for non breaking glitch (no1 gives a **** about controller support guys) 20 minutes before the tournament..
I would really like to see the guy who came and was "Hey guys, its really good idea to release the update right now"
and how come the "quick fix" is the same size as new patch basically 😄

[vapid crypt]

Wait is there another update or something

[steel shell]

yeah, look #game-status-upd

[wide coral]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-tanks-blitz-game-target-gif-17392027

[thorn shale]

LOL

[grim shadow]

From what i heard, it also affected regular touch users

[steel shell]

yeah some crew voice bug but still

[grim shadow]

No not just that. Some were unable to use touch controls even without a controller attached

[steel shell]

yeah but no1 cares about controller man

[vapid crypt]

Bruh Lmfaoo smh

[grim shadow]

I meant, people not using controllers were also given the UI of controller users. They needed touch controls but the game thought they were using controllers. So they were unable to use the on screen joystick and other controls. This is what a touch user would see: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/836286337182072852/837148196953915412/Screenshot_20210429-085937_World_of_Tanks.jpg?width=925&height=427

[steel shell]

ah, i see but still
this fix should have got deployed faster and definitely not 20 mins before the tourney

[glad sphinx]

Update still not there smh

[grim shadow]

Yeah i agree with that. But im guessing they only got it ready at this time. So they either put it out now or they wait more and put it out later after all the tournaments are over, and then they have to give a bigger compensation for the premium time people couldnt use

[steel shell]

then it should get deployed later..it was only for few people and this screwed definitely more people than the actual bug id say

[grim shadow]

WG knew the numbers so i believe they did what they thought was best

[thorn shale]

1 impostor among us

[thorn shale]

😳

[tired prawn]

REK3M ez

[leaden belfry]

It's not forced me to update btw 🤔

On iOS

[thorn shale]

Was talking about S-4-W but yeah rekem also hard abusing seeding so i guess theres more than just 1 impostor

[tired prawn]

Exactly, time to farm WR at night like the rest

[royal locust]

Same here

[steel shell]

i think some of our guys got kicked

[leaden belfry]

oof =(

[steel shell]

yeah, we had a warm up before the tournament and i dont think we would figure it out if it didnt kick them

[leaden belfry]

hope it didn’t affect your tournament itself

[steel shell]

no it didnt luckily, we were in 7, later in 8 or even 9
but i can imagine it could screw some teams but it seems it luckily didnt

[leaden belfry]

Yeah... Not a happy time to unleash a patch 😬

[steel shell]

indeed

[glad sphinx]

Cuz update is may 1 apparently, look in the game, I was checking like every 10min for update today cuz tourney, but its tmr so..

[next trellis]

The console blitz gamers are very happy that wargaming is fixing the controller issue 🙏 🥞

[winter swallow]

why does WG seed BPS and BPS together?

Is it WR seeding or is it WG manually fixing matches so that clan teams face each other?... because if seeding is being done arbitrarily, and this hasn't been explained, and there's real money cash prizes involved, if it was actually worth more than a day at work - I'm sure this would be lawsuit territory.

As it is - the top prize pays about as much as a weekend shift working at McDonalds so no one cba.

[thorn shale]

@winter swallow Idk if its WG manually. But What i can say its:
First day of PYS 1 we faced on semis
Second day of PYS 1 we faced on second round so 1/8
First day of PYS 2 we didnt face
Second day of PYS 2 we were going to face at 1/4 but they lost to SNTY

I think its just the seeding... but yeah its weird 3/4 days we faced each other

[crisp shore]

I mean I always get the seeding of these two teams right in the final stage of PYS🤷

[green orchid]

Tournament players never sleep, everyday its about coming back to this channel to repeat the same things like a broken record. save this energy for when WG's new seeding system fails us.

[winter swallow]

I think a few minutes of typing per day is a small price to pay for movement toward progress.

[forest matrix]

Current system fails us so badly it is hard to resist typing.
Not sure about the new conspiracy theory tho - seems to me just as coincidence especially since at least 2nd day draw are predictable. And I don’t see WG bothering manually modifying the seeding since they don’t bother having a look at it since 2 years.

[crisp shore]

That being said the group stage seeding is not strictly following strongest-weakest principle because of the groups so I suspect there is some randomness applied to the teams divided to the groups within the same batch

[forest matrix]

Which is good otherwise I am pretty sure the rigging would even go another level with guys creating fake teams to clear their way 😄

[limber lintel]

that's normal, cus if it wasn't for that, if all teams stay the same throughout PYS, it would constantly be the same brackets, that wouldn't be very much proving your skill xD

[atomic tartan]

These tournaments are more like scrims lol

[manic pewter]

You misspelled joke

[proud holly]

Nah it’s scrims. The meme matches come on PYS#6

[slim blade]

Anyone else having trouble joining the tournament rooms? My team just had a 6v6 game because both teams had players who couldn’t join the room

[untold tinsel]

6v6 is even playing field

[royal locust]

Ye it’s even players no advantages no disadvantages mostly

[slim blade]

that’s besides the point

[untold tinsel]

not rlly

[harsh schooner]

won first battle in tonights t8 terny but wont let us accept invite to next room

[supple hearth]

https://youtu.be/L0ovzfU5VVA boys, make sure to check this video 😂

[narrow meteor]

The goat

[mild river]

💀

[quartz gorge]

:3

[proud holly]

Oh no, it's the dude from the VISIN clan what do we do 😭 😭 😭

[worthy island]

Can someone tell me why I didn’t get the season coin from the season coin tourney, I only got the credit...

[latent olive]

@supple hearth busted! Now why didnt I think of that vid, its not like Im streaming the tours or anything lol

[scenic gyro]

mans clan isn’t even good enough to be in top 32 🤡

[slim blade]

Here we go

[terse perch]

He is op, now stop rigging

[barren gate]

Can top teams have TX tanks as reward for CW like in wot pc ?

[limber lintel]

altho I would like to say keep dreaming cus it prob won't happen, challengers top 3 gets tier VIII prems, so I don't see why there couldn't be tier X tanks for top 3 for the server

[crisp shore]

Another season another NA rigging allegation 😂

[supple hearth]

😂

[winter swallow]

Pretty sure RGN or PRAMO will win NA.

Also that video. I mean. He is using OBS to stream a screen capture including the OBS window?... I uh. Well. You know. Its innovative.

[crisp shore]

Also by this logic, SNTY must be rigging with BPS 😂 (which obviously is a baseless claim)

[winter swallow]

Although tbh we shouldn't put people down that play t8 tournaments. It's part of the feeder system into the big leagues.

[thorn shale]

Oh no... you found out... 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

[sinful crest]

Honestly I agree with you all. Very bright individuals you all are.

[odd wolf]

Ok

[tired prawn]

thank

[atomic tartan]

Heh if that dude was really playing NA tourneys for the last five years, well he sure wasn’t winning any of them

[hexed hornet]

guys question. 3rd place will give you a less than 1k coins right?

[surreal hinge]

Sanchez must be a prophet with his enlightening claims. I know so much more now.

[tropic lotus]

😐

[thorn shale]

wew

[winged saffron]

I don’t feel like watching a 45 minute video, but based on the minute I did see, does he just go on about how certain teams beat certain teams but then lost to them later or lost to teams that are considered worse, therefore they must be rigging?

[thorn shale]

its not like competition is random or anything

[winged saffron]

Of course not, teams will always beat and lose to the same people every time, no matter what

[thorn shale]

im pretty sure that guy is making it for attention grabbing and seeking reasons, because he doesnt have the talent to do something new, creative, and/or good, so he grabs the clan names that attract people like moths to the light in an effort to get some views for his channel that will last as long as his comp career

[hardy delta]

Oh my a team 2-1'd them one time then 1-2'd the second time. Not like this game has different maps and rng involved because that wouldn't make sense. Dunk the dude is just an attention seeker he is far from top 32 and needs to fill the void in his life that is lack of wotb comp.

[thorn shale]

oh ofc i kinda said that in my paragraph

[untold tinsel]

@hardy delta dunk didn’t even make that video rat. idk why u bring him up. makes no sense

[winged saffron]

@untold tinsel It seems you may have misinterpreted what was said

[thorn shale]

^

[untold tinsel]

it was sarcasm smh

[royal locust]

My guy don’t doubt out JKR

[narrow meteor]

Def_7>

[untold tinsel]

ttman777 [-MM]>

[ancient shard]

FSX >

[winged saffron]

Sanchez clan would be number 1 if it wasn’t for all the rigging to keep them out

[atomic tartan]

Sadgchez

[topaz swan]

.

[winter swallow]

smashes X to doubt

[pastel tartan]

Todays Schedule:
Prove your skill #3 Day 1
ASIA
Fugit - [-ENT-]
https://youtu.be/YzxT9T4jyww
EU
3very - [APA]
https://youtu.be/YQnNn1tZdpI
Fugit - [BPS-]
https://youtu.be/HRohxeV2qv8
NA
Fishy - [APX]
<No Link yet>
Fugit - [PNCR]
https://youtu.be/G-6eQCo37hQ

[proud holly]

tfw Fishy ain't got no link

[pastel tartan]

i didnt have it when i got all the clans,let me add it one sec @proud holly
nvm there is none yet bruh

[proud holly]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-bye-ciao-gif-5156041

[next trellis]

Damn! He caught us! 😭

[weary hull]

Are we ever getting the option to buy a tier 10 for season coins?

[thorn shale]

Bps- pog

[next trellis]

They wont even sell a tier 8 so I doubt that they would ever sell a tier 10 for season coins

[grim shadow]

Wasn’t the T54 Mod 1 up once?

[next trellis]

yes but hardly anyone I know was able to get it because they spent it on the kv-13, me included 😂

[narrow meteor]

@thorn shale Migol

[thorn shale]

xipot 😳

[calm atlas]

rip raid or bps😂

[limber lintel]

Ye, this is so sht

[narrow meteor]

Poggers

[burnt glacier]

Check 2nd,4TH group in compare to 5th

[half urchin]

good job wg 👏 first it hits snty or loca, now bps or us... genius
but 2 years, or tbf half a year since abuses, are not enough time for a new seeding

[steel shell]

this is unbelievable

[thorn shale]

I guess the teams that abuse the seeding and are trash deserve more the top 8 than you...

[half urchin]

seems like it

[thorn shale]

rip RA1D

[half urchin]

🤷‍♂️

[mellow stratus]

If we were to stream Prove Your Skill, would we have to notify Wargaming like how Fishy and a few others have live streams in the tournament tab?

[vital delta]

Random map?

[frank forum]

same again?

[mild mortar]

.

[thorn shale]

rip S4W, uses x3 100wr accs to avoid top teams and loses on 1/4 anyways

[steel shell]

xD
unluck

[manic pewter]

They deserve top8 thought

[limber lintel]

agree

[warped patrol]

🍉

[narrow meteor]

They should of used 4 100% wr accounts

[next trellis]

Why not just have a whole team with 100% wr accounts at this point 🤷‍♂️

[gleaming pollen]

they are already number 1 seeded so it doesnt make any difference chip

[terse perch]

100% accounts are overrated, just use 0% accounts and 2-0 rgn or pramo in the first round

[narrow meteor]

Ahhh so 5 100% we accounts

[winged saffron]

Only top 7 winrates count so all you need is 7

[thorn shale]

@frosty nexus quick question:

As you can see, the -MM team have a much lower team win-rate than our team

But as you can see here, -MM get a bye to the quarterfinals and we have to play first round. I am just curious why this is the case. How are -MM seeded higher than us?

[narrow meteor]

@thorn shale its only the top 7 players win rate thats calculated

[thorn shale]

@narrow meteor lmfao that’s actually so broken that my head hurts

So not only does it weigh win rates at their face values, it then removes the 3 worst win rate accounts??

💀💀💀

[narrow meteor]

yeah lol

[untold tinsel]

teehee

[supple hearth]

Yes, you can have 3 40% and 7 70% and ur winrate will be 70% lmao

[sinful crest]

I like MM- roster a lot better. It’s a lot more diverse with colors I think that’s why they got the bye, all colors matter

[sly axle]

LOL

[slim socket]

LMAO

[covert flax]

Cuz logic exists lmao 😂

[drifting jetty]

I dreamed last night RGN let me play on their PYS #3 tournament. For some reason I a, played over other players like Moe, b, ran the Jag E100 (😂) and c, didn't use discord because I didn't want my internet to get laggy.
But I did top damage on the team anyway a few times and was always in the top 3. Not to boast, but we won all the battles. 😂 🤣
I should stop watching tournament battles before bedtime.

[sinful crest]

you need help, why are u dreaming about blitz...

[winged saffron]

Diversity is key

[bold sierra]

^

[supple hearth]

😂

[winged saffron]

Green winrates matter too, but not really, that’s why we aren’t included

[glass thunder]

@thorn shale tournaments mm count best 7 players on wr without number of battles
It mean if you have 1 players with 0wr and 100k battles and other with 100wr and 1 battles the team wr will be 50%

SmartGaming system

[thorn shale]

🧠

[lusty flint]

interesting dream

[atomic tartan]

almost didn't happen. we committed to Spring season the Sunday before the first PYS. from who-wants-to-play-poll to registered team all within 24 hours lul

[thorn shale]

😂

Chad deciding to play a tournament 1 day before it starts plays

[atomic tartan]

Pull the team not even tracked by Blitzstars out of their coffins

[thorn shale]

💀

[lusty flint]

wym, we have one guy who plays 1k games a month

[dry flint]

You piggies need to start playing more. Spamming pubs is the best way to stay fresh for comp 🌝👌

[drifting jetty]

^

Actually, RGN guys, just watch HRF's youtube channel and you'll stay fresh for comp.

[thorn shale]

💀

[lusty flint]

@dry flint as long as you're not a vickers player 💀

[tardy bay]

tournaments

[split cosmos]

api dead 😩

[loud oxide]

There is a problem with the API. Will today's tournament be postponed?

[proud holly]

Bro you need sunlight

[muted ore]

We are not planning to postpone the tournaments just yet. If the situation changes, we will let know.

[loud oxide]

Ok

[winter swallow]

tbh ratings would make the best mechanical practice for comp.

[half urchin]

think serious platooning makes more sense. rating is most of the time like random. you fight alone and can not expect your team to realize things happening

[winter swallow]

Agreed - serious platooning will help com players develop teamwork skills - but mechanical skills (aiming, driving, etc.) would still probably be developed faster and to a higher level by facing all stronger opponents (on average) in higher ratings leagues. // I think it is worth doing both to get better for comp if you're able to play but your team isn't scrimming/training.

[sonic patio]

Agreed

[glass thunder]

Ranting is mist useless mode
You can use it as warmup or ping test
You can't even platon in team work game

[balmy cobalt]

idk why people wastes own time to play rating battles. Ok, u get a camo, an avatar, and some is6 certificates... but i dont see it so useful. @glass thunder platoon in rating sounds like "cheating".

[velvet dome]

@muted ore it is 1 hour and 10 mins till the start of PYS #3 Day 2 and the api still isn't working. Could you give an update on when the issue will be fixed or if the issue isn't fixed, when will you give an update regarding the tourney?

[muted ore]

We are working on a fix right now.

[velvet dome]

Ok thanks for your hard work. I hope it get solved soon.

[sonic patio]

Any updates with regards to tournament?

[crisp shore]

My overlays for Asia stream are definitely going to suck today, sorry guys!

[split cosmos]

📃

[mellow hawk]

Where is tournaments? 7 minutes until battle start but no tournament button

[dim pivot]

Yea the tournaments tab isnt displaying any tournaments

[muted ore]

Hello.
Due to technical problems, we cannot guarantee that today's tournament in Asia will start and go well.
We are making every effort to fix the problems. In case they affect the tournament, the matches will be replayed on another day.
The rematch decision will be announced at a later date.

[crisp shore]

This means there are no tournaments tonight on the Asia server, right?

Edit: Oof I did not receive an invite though

[tepid sun]

There is a room up now though

[silver vapor]

😱

[latent olive]

rooms are up however, but I guess results may not be captured

[dim pivot]

As long as the ping is good, theres no need for a rematch me thinks

[velvet dome]

i absolutely love that the victory conditions are value and the tank tier is value

[broken sedge]

how do we know maps for next round

[candid geode]

guess

[broken sedge]

guessing

[flat goblet]

Cups in rewards section have been showing as 0 for me since last week

[wispy raptor]

r u guys canceled tour ?

[latent olive]

Anyone get the next game room invite?

[frosty nexus]

@flat goblet we know about this issue and planning implement a hot-fix to solve it

[past marlin]

Nope@latent olive

[frosty nexus]

@latent olive still technical issues. Doing the best from our side to solve it 😦

[slim sierra]

no

[flat goblet]

I just assume you guys know the bugs and are working on fixing them lol

[terse granite]

So we cancel tournament?

[frosty nexus]

@terse granite for now we can't do anything with tournament. Nothing that depends on us 😦

[glass thunder]

Why Platon in rating sounds like cheating in csgo rank you can play with 4 others friends and its really good

[candid geode]

ping indicator is fine
but it has weird lag in idk
its not how it used to be

[opaque bone]

This is not the place to discuss it tbh
And CS GO is an entirely different game

[wispy raptor]

Can You tell me when will the room up or we cancel today ?

[brittle bloom]

Can you just tell us whether it’s cancelled or not.
And why do these two teams advance?

[terse granite]

Because them pay to win :))

[ruby stag]

Lol

[frosty nexus]

@here
Dear players of Asia server,

Today we faced the technical problems which are affected most of our services in the game including tournaments. By this some teams from "Prove your skill #3" tournament had not an opportunity to play in it.

Basing on this we decided that final stage of "Prove your skill #3" tournament will be moved to May 5th with following conditions:

1. Matches TEAM ID vs Q__BACK and MangoPasta vs pink_nuggins are moved to March 5th. Start-time - 19:00 (UTC +8)
2. Other matches of the stage will be started right over the quarterfinals, May 5th at 19:32 (UTC +8)
3. The results of matches God Viet vs F3 (2:0) and HLV vs Monke n Monkeys (2:0) will be saved. Those matches will not be replayed.

We are sorry for any inconvenience.

[fleet glen]

ok

[warm cave]

wat

[random cliff]

ok

[thorn shale]

ok but im not asia :(

[rich anchor]

Ok

[valid sorrel]

ok

[past sedge]

m

[tawny plover]

LLLLLLLLLl

[grave thorn]

ok

[dim quarry]

Ok

[thorn shale]

.

[pastel pendant]

Noice

[spark halo]

What is this?

[median flower]

Ni huja

[jolly knot]

It seems you have constant issues on the server, like is that actually on your end or is that just the undersea cables at this point?

[midnight tundra]

okie dokie

[severe nest]

And now the weather

[thorn shale]

🤌ok

[split cosmos]

)

[viral parrot]

Ok z

[tardy dragon]

it's fine

[idle yoke]

Alrighty.

[sullen escarp]

Rip

[white lotus]

I can join all team

[thick coyote]

hi

[vernal spear]

uhhhhh

"March 5th" lol???

[strong briar]

Hi!

[ember notch]

Imagine doing that for our best and we wont care lmao and imagine me saying all this
Just imagine

[glass rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

[olive patio]

Dammit i got ping again

[polar sparrow]

oK

[candid lance]

so we have to replay

[gilded karma]

What the hell

[old ice]

👍

[thorn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

[little island]

yes who

[opaque bone]

Imagine crying over a ping smh

[jaunty nacelle]

u mean may 5th

[past marlin]

Wtf why do we have to replay the games again

[slow goblet]

🙄

[tawny lion]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

[inner estuary]

poor k1ng

[sonic sentinel]

F

[brittle bloom]

why were GV HLV's results saved?

[distant shell]

Noice

[dusk mirage]

Brruh

[wispy raptor]

okie

[keen sigil]

imagine server issue

[dim pivot]

@brittle bloom coz they 2-0 bro

[warm prism]

Bruh rame

[light aspen]

Even the quick tournaments have bugs,couldent pass after 3 / 5

[hardy ravine]

cc

[verbal scaffold]

Sauce

[shrewd spire]

Slm

[thorn shale]

@brittle bloom nice job in the tourney

[stiff gorge]

?

[jade fractal]

if you are talking to asian server, then ping people with asian server role and not everyone, fun fact: no one actually cares 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[thorn shale]

Haa ?

[severe nest]

Rlly mate
really now

[candid lance]

this is dumb

[odd wolf]

@jade fractal fan fact: if you cry harder, your problems will naturally go away

[terse granite]

I told you that they p2w

[main heart]

lol

[slim sierra]

why do we need to against ID again? We already won them

[rugged fable]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

[broken sedge]

we also. 2-0

[frosty nexus]

@slim sierra no results of the match in the system

[sonic sentinel]

this is a shambles

[thorn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-ping-pingus-bingus-cat-gif-18905873

[jaunty nacelle]

Can't you guys use Fugit's stream as evidence for the tourney results for ENT vs E7? ent got 2-0

[opaque bone]

If no one cares, why did you bother typing this message lol
Imagine crying over a ping

@jaunty nacelle Exactly, there is more than enough proof

[thorn shale]

.

[jolly knot]

Best to not ping for these and just pin the message, otherwise you get people like that popping up.

@frosty nexus were those issues on your end or was it Asia-related in general

[ornate tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

[real pendant]

ha nooba in chat

[fleet zodiac]

👀

[dim pivot]

All i can say is F for u guys

[light aspen]

@frosty nexus Hey,any news of fixing quick tournaments?

[grizzled maple]

🧐 i got pinged?

[frank elm]

5 pings today ;-;

[polar sparrow]

now 6 xD

[thorn shale]

Agreed

[fast hare]

Not A Cosplayer#1749 was banned

MichaelDaTrap#3231 was banned

jmmbsts#3720 has been warned.

[tardy bay]

Good morning NA peeps.

[cobalt panther]

I guess a random guy just pinged everyone

Edit, Wargaming, you could pinging everone make only work for staff members

[narrow vapor]

hmm who pinged me?

[leaden belfry]

No, Daria tagged a here to announce what's happening with Asia's tournament

And instead of reading, people are just spamming

[thorn shale]

yes

[earnest mauve]

Yes mate

[leaden belfry]

@ripe totem have you tried reading #rules

It's literally up there and in pinned messages as well

[light aspen]

Hey,yesterday our team got removed twice from quick tournament in EU server on 3 / 5 without any reason,can somebody explain what may be the issue?

[muted ore]

We cannot use broadcasts and take into account the result from them. It is the tournament data that we rely on. If there is no match result, we cannot take it into account, as it may have been affected by technical problems.

[jaunty nacelle]

ok noted. You guys at WG can sort it out. thanks

[faint comet]

who ping me?

[polar sparrow]

j did it xD

[leaden belfry]

Don't troll

[leaden belfry]

Wargaming did

[cobalt panther]

👀

[leaden belfry]

@muted ore is there any reason to assume EU and NA will have the same issues? Or is it really just Asia?

[fossil moth]

👽

[muted ore]

No, there are no problems in other regions

[leaden belfry]

Good =) thank you

[latent olive]

@gusty jacinth My understanding is that the issue on Asia today was specific to the local region, so EU shouldnt be impacted

[leaden belfry]

Not yet, they've kind of got their hands full 😬😅

[light aspen]

Playing quick tournament tier 5-6 on EU,our team didnt loose any battles and we got removed twice on 3 / 5,both teams are ready and it shows: Random map in queue and when time runs out tour ends.Whats the issue?

[candid lance]

Bro it’s Qt no one cares

[echo drift]

what in the gosh happened here

[next trellis]

tier 6 QT 💪

[light aspen]

Channel name is tournaments,it doesnt matter is it a tier 6 or anything else.. Well thank you for the big help,great "work"😂

[idle geyser]

k

[limpid raven]

;-;

[silver vapor]

nice gif spam

[trail turret]

I like this

[glass rapids]

breh i posted that up gif once now everyones spamming it
mods pls dont blame me for this

[white fiber]

i have a video version of it with sound but it has swearing