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big chungus funny
F for Astro chungus
Ngl, before going to urban dictionary, I never knew chungus had any meaning or context other than big chungus
Ngl, before going to urban dictionary, I never knew chungus had any meaning or context other than big chungus
@near anvil Same
Same
Rip Astro chungus shall not be forgotten
When there are a bunch of mikehawk names but they take down a Chungus name
@narrow meteor i mean, Wargaming was actually going to send a guy named HughJass to commentate Twister in 2017 or 18. plane tickets and hotels booked. unfortunately a massive snowstorm happened in Vancouver the day he was supposed to fly out and flights went rip
hughjass was goated
brb let me change to DonnKeedic
😂
Yeah donn is a nice guy I like him
@harsh ember or GabeItch
Pretty epic
Someone has pinged me here and deleted the comment
Noice
It was @harsh ember
pepole, I want you for the worl of tanks teem for the tournament.My teem is Zomber Teem Im from México 🇲🇽
Affirm
Yes
Lets go mexicoooo hazme unos tacos compadre 🌮 🕺
México Gang 🌯
me gusta burrito 🌯
Mi cerebro es una rata 😦
The free camera for tournament spectators is only available in the streaming tournys?
lol
Is there a possibility to add one level on clan player levels, Commander, Executive commander and Soldier to distinquice tournament players from normal players.
Executive Commander Tj wouldn't sound right
@muted ore will teams receive their clan banner avatar before the tournaments start like the pro avatars were in previous tournaments?
They said the pro avatar and camo rewards will be given 10 work days after the tour finished? idk if it will be given b4 the tour
Why would they give a temporary banner after the tournaments ended. That makes zero sense
Maybe the banner avatar for top4 only? and ppl will get b4 Nov? i am not sure haha
@untold tinsel banners might be for after the qualifers
I think its better to give players avatar and camo before tour, coz its beautiful when they carry cyber fall new camo on stream
Why would they give a temporary banner after the tournaments ended. That makes zero sense
@untold tinsel no , im sure they meant the avatar we submitted is for whoever gets 1st place in the tournaments
Would make more sense for them to make the top 4 teams submit an avatar if that was the case
@untold tinsel hmmm idk, they asked top16 to submit so that way they can have avatars prepared for whoever wins
They ask top 16 for 1st? Not even during top 8. That doesn’t seem right for them to ask for top 16 when finals are a month away. Plus they haven’t announced any details or replied to me yet so we wont know until then
Asked top 12 but yea
Well you have to consider the people making the avatars are making one for every other region
The avatar is for top4 of each region
Oh I stand corrected then
"The free camera for tournament spectators is only available in the streaming tournys?"
Ctrl-V
Ctrl (1-9 depending on what camera speed u want)
R and F for up and down
@bronze crag
i want the gma avatar (:
What is gma avatar
CUERVOoBus#1664 has been warned.
Yeah the Avatars will be given to the top 4 to use during the Cup, nit to sure if they will be permanent
I lowkey want to see the avatar every clan submitted
I had made clan and added tournament team members for commanders. Yesterday two rawmeatballs left who had rights to be commanders and removed 29 players out of clan members. These 29 players had grinded the clan stock from 0-X .
It’ll be the most interesting pros series ever, especially with lockdowns and quarantines all over the world, many older players have been able to come back and play and many teams have had much more time to practice and work on things
Any details about top 4 ? Or it will be published one day before ? xD
Dates are known as of now. Blitz Cup will be held on 21-22 November for the EU server. I think that's the information we only know atm.
Blitz cup is too far from now, but im more interested in when will the pro avatar and cyber fall camo and the background be given, really need wait 10 days after the tour finished? surely its better to show it on streaming
@proud holly ooh excellent, thanks man
@daring dune I asked, everything will be given after the end, they will firstly check if the player didn't violate the rules
OK Then it's a pity tho but fine. Rewards will finally come. just early or late
@snow canyon English only on this server, sorry
OK sory😬
@narrow meteor i can give you mms lmao
😳
Hey
Hello
Bye lol
Is this a Scam? @noble star
ofc not, thx for the free gold 🤣
Xdddd
Bro I clicked it why is it asking for my social security number???!???
It’s a scam bud Xddddddddd @sinful crest
Roman_Osadhcik.#0689 was banned
Scams are fun with friends
Thats a lot of battles
Newbie mm cause all have less than 5k battles
Thats a lot of battles
@fathom tiger i was thinking the same thing
No it isn't. I just rolled over 24,000 and I'm still a rookie. He has moved on to other clans but I have seen over 100,000 before
Ttman where u at
Hi hello I just wanted to ask how to be a streamer
By streaming @blissful cradle
I go to the portal but they need to register. Where I registere
Yup
TTman is the best NA player by far. His 121b stats are unlike anything else
ok
Ttman is the most dedicated player I’ve ever seen, over the last 30 days he has played for atleast 11.5 hours a day assuming the average battle is 3 and a half minutes long
6k battles last 30days. Normal stuff
seems something a sane person would do
BlitzStars presents live player statistics as well as historical player data for World of Tanks: Blitz.
That has to be a glitch or something
or some real determination 🤣 look at the date 16.9.2020 in his battle records
Sweaty
What in the how
That is almost a full 24 hours of 1 minute battles
This guy definitely needs to be in the comp scene
9 battles per minute, not bad
Blitz stars bug time
Nah he’s just that op
definetly achievable with a gaming chair
@muted ore have you considered adding one more spectator slot in training rooms considering roasters are now made out of 10 players and no longer 9, which means one will have to wait in the middle as he could spectate his team, would be a nice thing imo.
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10 person qts could also be a thing, I mean have it 10/10 rather than 9/9
any plan on adding team only chat in tournament lobby for people who dont/cant use vc?
^^^^^^^
He just die in 50 seconds and playing next
it's not 1battle per min, it is 9 battles per min
sux 2 b u
Nicee
Excuse me does the season's coin last forever therefore I can saved them throughout future tours to spend on future better store item?
Yes u can save them until we get something better lmao
Never mind,
@muted ore have you considered adding one more spectator slot in training rooms considering roasters are now made out of 10 players and no longer 9, which means one will have to wait in the middle as he could spectate his team, would be a nice thing imo.
@patent quartz Hello. It is impossible to add an extra slot right now.
We will try to do it in the future.
any plan on adding team only chat in tournament lobby for people who dont/cant use vc?
@jade spoke There are no such plans now.
@jade spoke use the clan chat?
For qts and season coins tournaments, not always playing with a clan
@jade spoke There are no such plans now.
@muted ore hi Sirius.
@chilly terrace hi rexy.
I am following like a lot this channel and I must say this answer looks like the common answer we receive as a player in this channel.
Would it be possible for WG to share some views of your plans regarding competitive aspect of the game ? Are they any development planned ? By development I don’t only means adding features to the game but for example having another scheme of tournament (eg. more continuous or realistic mode based)? We saw the summer season popping up this year as t8. What is the rationale?
Or maybe the plan is to keep as it is (I could understand that CW is not a real priority as not driving business growth and revenues)
It would be rly good to use this channel to provide to the relatively small community of tournaments players some insights about it. Or use our committed streamers for a specific communication. That would be awesome.
I mean this section is called « chat with devs » and we never had this opportunity to anticipate a bit the future.
Thanks
And this is the only channel where devs actually answers
I comp Shogun here. It would be good to get inspiration for the winter season since lots of experienced cw players are talking about quitting game after autumn is done
However, I think 4 seasons per year will make players overloaded and exhausted, it may accelerate the quit and devalue the professional tournament and its reward at the same time. Personally I disagree 4 seasons replace 2 seasons per year in the future.
Your stream coverage for Asia server:
Fugit's Blitz: https://youtu.be/DgOI9P4inOY (Reward stream)
Wildoneshelper: https://youtu.be/PIjG8utA7d8
If you would like to watch the streams in another language, Eternal_Sinzan will be streaming in Japanese while xiyangkun will be streaming in Mandarin. Eternal_Sinzan's streams can be found on his YouTube channel, but he has not put up a link yet. On the other hand, I have not yet successfully found xiyangkun's streams.
Watch Fugit's stream on the Portal to get your rewards here: https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/354/description/
@forest matrix Hi.
Unfortunately, we can't inform you about new developments or plans in advance. Such things are not yet at the final stage and can be canceled at all.
The summer championship was held on tanks of 8 levels because we wanted the players to try their hand at a major tournament on tanks of 8, not 10 levels. Level 8 tanks in the game are much more than 10.
we saw less variety in tier 8 than in tier 10 tho. even though tier 8 has way more tanks
Not to mention that in tier X, we mainly just have the T22 that's p2w, whereas in tier VIII, 95% of the tanks played will be prems, which you can see in the results of the teams that use those and the teams that can't afford those
That's true
Wish there was even more variety in tier x other then 6-7 meta tanks
Wish there was even more variety in tier x other then 6-7 meta tanks
@jade spoke it's very hard to build a meta where every tank is viable. currently what we have is already is like the most diverse we had for years.
Xd
@muted ore please look Pm
@marsh cliff 🙀
🥳🤓
Your stream coverage for EU server:
Amaunet85: https://youtu.be/JhJPq79EdNE
Fugit's Blitz: https://youtu.be/hAsu1qUOS7I
3very: https://youtu.be/CbaVg6-I5IQ
Wildoneshelper: https://youtu.be/2wwJhH6GyS8
(Erratum: Links have been corrected)
If you would like to watch the stream providing another language of commentary, R1B will be streaming in German. His stream link will be provided very soon.
Watch Amaunet's stream on the Portal to get your rewards here:
https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/365/description/
who is streaming NA ?
No clue
Can we see the stream schedule for NA?
Droodles, Fishy, Paparage and Fugit, I believe
Will post the links after I've had dinner
i'm looking forward for server fixes before tonight's tournament since many players are encountering ping issues right now in regular battles, hopefully it'll not happen tonight, otherwise it would be an issue for top8 teams...
Hopefully the upcoming update, rumoured to be on this Wednesday, will not break the game, particularly the tournaments side of things
everytime theres one update ping and loss goes brrrr for everyone playing tourneys
This is why I'm totally against releasing an update during a tournament stage. I don't see why postponing to a week after would be a bad idea since it is after the tournament stage, and it is fair for all the clans to find out whether the Kran is a good tank for tournaments as they have ca 1 month to test.
Releasing a new tier 10 tank mid twister top 8 stage 🤠
Not good idea at all, I’d prefer to wait two weeks more.
^ Definetely not a good idea
Ngl next Wednesday would be the best time -- 1) enough time to test the Kran until the Blitz Cup; 2) Blitz Cup preliminaries had finished (a. no need to worry about big bugs affecting tournaments, b. fair for every clan as some clans have better idea of the Kran during the beta stage)
Not only that but the clans who got to test it have an advantage over the clans in top8 that don’t have test slots
I am pretty sure, that the clans in top8 will skip whole line if needed
But as was mentioned above, every time there is patch, servers go brrrr
Not only that but the clans who got to test it have an advantage over the clans in top8 that don’t have test slots
@sinful crest omg don't even get me started on this lmao
@thorn shale I am streaming some of the NA games.
M1: Wretched Eggs v SPEED
M2: Astro v One
Releasing a new tier 10 tank mid twister top 8 stage 🤠
@pale finch yep. It’s just routine insanity at this point.
not all players in top8 have that much spare free-exp 😅
finally something to spend my 1 mil free exp + exp discount cert to use
Well to be fair the Kranvagn won’t be useful in tournaments, like a 50B does that job better, Kranvagn is to flawed in terms of mobility, dpm and gun handling to make it worth playing when a 50B is more of a standard choice
Can we get a stream schedule for NA?
^^^
really fun EU games to watch tho
ur fun
That LOCA vs RA1D though 😮
@crisp shore where apa loca?
Let's not talk about that and let's focus on your win against -W1N- instead 😉
your stream selection for NA tonight:
Fugit: https://youtu.be/-rN1GqDFxYE
Fishy: https://youtu.be/-rSl3cQYsrY
PapaRage: https://youtu.be/p1FM9LST8Kg
No link from Droodles in the spreadsheet
Fishy has the reward stream (hence the other colour)
will do, @thorn tusk . Sorry, I never check pm's while streaming XD And after that generally check this channel first
@leaden belfry no iNeear?
he's not listed in the sheet for October at all
so not sure if he signed up for this week or not
the sheet is imperfect, mind, but that's the on-hand data I have
Have to say, btw, that the EU games I streamed tonight were some of the most enjoyable games I've seen. Some very close calls and just overall great fun
Thanks for the streams as usually @pastel tartan @leaden belfry @latent olive @crisp shore without you tournaments would’ve been meaningless
<3
tenks <3
@crisp shore xD 🤣
thank you @pale finch 🙂
Thanks @pale finch ❤️
I second that, thank you so much all streamers!
#BringRollingBack
agri
Yeah tbh the work you put into streaming is amazing. Thank you so much!! @crisp shore @latent olive @pastel tartan @leaden belfry
❤️
And thank you all for the fantastic games today =)
If this is a precursor of the rest of the week, I'll be a very happy streamer 😂
me 2, i was able to watch some super fun and exiting matches
- R1B
More 2 cap win denies at 995 points please 😄
i was able to witness quad maus on canal, that was super fun
Would a player be able to participate with two teams on different servers (ex. play on a team for EU and on NA) in these Blitz Cup Qualifiers?
yes
we'll try to avoid that as much as possible @crisp shore, we were not really confortable at this point 😂
@patent quartz Also don't want to get complained twice on the same day about the noise by my neighbours 😂
A player could, But at this level of play, you’d be giving up so many hours a day to train for both teams, it’ll be incredibly hard to keep up especially as each server has different metas and skill sets
NA doesn’t get a good looking photo like the others servers
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@steel shell scroll up to the EU schedule or ASIA schedule then look NA
Which photo do u mean? @thorn shale
I see, thanks
Will the next tank for coins be a tier 9? Or will it be a tier 8?
Update coming tomorrow but round 2 also tomorrow hmmmm
3
W8 round 2 is tmrw????
round 3 is tmr
Ok
And?
@gaunt glen congratulations on winning your quick tournament 👍
@gaunt glen conragts on winning ur FIRST quick tournament
(If yall know what I mean)👍 👍
Sorry I was busy dropping a donut on live stream
o7
Woah it's even in tier 6 😳
Dam killing it at tier 6
kek
Not bad
tier 6 is where all the good comp clans play
The baity igns
if he pronounced the mike properly it wouldnt have happend xd
F
Victim claimed
Hadn’t tripped up until today 😤
I like ya cut g
Would a player be able to participate with two teams on different servers (ex. play on a team for EU and on NA) in these Blitz Cup Qualifiers?
@tropic lotus He can, but...
"The Player must be a resident of one of the countries bound to the respective Gaming Regions where the Game accounts of the Players are registered. Each team can content up to 2 players that don’t conform to this rule.
All team participants should contain at the same clan from the moment of registration to the Tournament to the end of Tournament. "
I just don’t see how players have enough time to train and invest into both teams, preform well, and conform to both time zones without cutting corners if their intentions were to get far with either team. I’d imagine the differing metas on EU and NA would make it difficult as well, among other factors.
Best of luck to them I suppose.
Big brain players
Well I mean the basics are pretty much the same, though it does take a lot of time to adjust to the play styles. I do think the time zone difference will be a huge issue for players playing on the EU and NA servers simultaneously (and that's why not a lot of EU streamers stream NA too). The time commitment will also be hefty.
Rolling used to steam both eu,na and still provided amazing content
#BringRollingBack
Asia too
Brian and I used to cover all servers we could mainly because there weren’t any streamers for Asia and NA, and we felt they deserved as much as EU and RU
right now though, every server gets quite some coverage, which is awesome =)
Does anyone feel like, premium tanks should never be allowed to battle in tournaments, only tech tree tanks?
@raw cave why?
Cuz p2w
@frosty nexus he is sleeping
Zzzz
U see a whole bunch of obj252u, that's all for the enemy team.@analog osprey I have slow mode enabled, so iu can only message after 5 min
who wants to join a qt
For example collector VK, it should be avaible for all players...
If possible could someone from W1N, LOCA, EG, SOULS & RA1D please send me, via DM, the clan logos that I can use on the stream etc? If you dont mind 🙂 Thanks in advance
@steep prawn chouchou
@latent olive will be done in a bit for LOCA
@patent quartz Thx mate 👍
Where’s rexy 😔
I'm aware he lost the Wargaming role and now only has the "Players" role. 😮
👀
what happened tho
Press F for Rexy!
🇫
Missing rexy😖
._.
@versed field dam bro u look hot in that profile pic, rip Rexy 😭 😭 😭 👀
Sadge
Me at 6am
👀 👀 👀 👀
Nust unnormal finnishboi nothing else😱
rip Rexy 😫
To be serious it's so cute to see such reaction for my lost role. Everything is fine with me, I just changed some things in my life. 😀
@chilly terrace gl in life man you did great job here
👆
Who will now be in charge of the Tournaments departement @chilly terrace?
Thanks 👍
@patent quartz channels description rili
Who will now be in charge of the Tournaments departement @chilly terrace?
@patent quartz You can read it in channel description)
Gl and thanks for your job done here @chilly terrace
@chilly terrace GL rexy I just hope everything goes good in life for u and thank you for everything you've done here!
Thnx for your efforts rexy, best of luck!
gl Rexy for future!
what happened with rexy
I think hes not working for WG anymore. Just look at his roles
wow u re fast, thx for info
All the best for the future Rexy, you shall be missed and big thanks for all your efforts 🙂
His roles were removed almost a week ago btw - anyways good luck Artyom and thanks for your work both here and at offlines.
Thanks everyone for kind words, I'll definitely miss you all =)
dam, gl Rexy
Thx rexy and gl in your life
^
@chilly terrace Thank you, Артем, and have the best experinece and luck in your future!
Season coins tier 9-10 tournament. Join "NEEDy". 60+%ers or high battle numbers only! We need 3 more.
@chilly terrace thanks for helping out with creating great tournament experience. Can I give one last “press ready” 😆
“Press Ready!” 😭
Bye lol @chilly terrace
@chilly terrace thanks for helping out with creating great tournament experience. Can I give one last “press ready” 😆
@dry flint The grass is green, the sky is blue, rexy says "PRESS READY!" =)
@chilly terrace thanks for elevating tournaments as a whole.
^
Are the caps on Yukon going to be fixed before everyone plays on it?
The caps on Yukon were intentionally set to go up by 5 apparently
if only rexy were here to solve it 😭
What is the problem with the caps?
normal 4 cap maps tick up by 3
@chilly terrace Thank you for all the effort you put in to help make tournaments better.
Oof, is it going to be changed to 3 in the update?
@winged saffron The 5+ per cap is intentional...
And WG have made no indication that they’ll change it
long version, so you know Wargaming thinks Twister 2018 was too slow but 2019 was too fast? well now you do. their solution for 2019 was juicing up heavy tank hp, so Spring 2020 season was a one class meta and....went exactly as you expected. so now they have to experiment with ways to speed up the games again, one being a potential TD buff soon to come and another is increasing Supremacy cap speed from 3/a few seconds to 5/a few seconds (the same as 3 cap maps), so the time it takes to hit 1000 on Yukon is way faster, thereby arbitrarily increasing game speed. tldr Yukon caps is not a bug, its completely intentional.
the issue with this is that considering this is a 4 cap map, if two teams take two caps each immediately by going opposite sides of the map, the game will rarely last long enough for either team to kill all 7 enemy tanks, which is the case on any other map. strategy-wise, making careful rotations from one side of the map to another to catch your enemy out of position is out of the question
Bruh. All the yukon games are gonna be so short then
@atomic tartan ah yea right thx
The yukon caps are reworked im this update if im not mistaken
If they want to speed up the capture game like that, maybe something like 4 tick counters would be something worth considering. 5 for a 4 cap map is simply insane. I’ve not had a Yukon game last more than 3 minutes
I thought it was being reduced to 3 this update
Bye r3xy 😭
@graceful jetty Mate, any chance you have a clan logo you could send me?
@hereAlas I am still after clan logos for the upcoming streams. For EU I still need EG. For Asia I need all of them and NA I need all of them also 😦 any help would be greatly appreciated
@forest matrix Hi.
Unfortunately, we can't inform you about new developments or plans in advance. Such things are not yet at the final stage and can be canceled at all.The summer championship was held on tanks of 8 levels because we wanted the players to try their hand at a major tournament on tanks of 8, not 10 levels. Level 8 tanks in the game are much more than 10.
@muted ore hi Sirius - Thanks for answering. I don’t mind if u change your plans as long as ....there are plans.
I am doing CW stuff since the very beginning (I even took part to the very first test tournament) and it is not clear to me if WG intends to further develop the eSports aspect of the game ... or if u are fine with the way it is running atm and the balance between what if costs and what it earns.
Cause I don’t feel that there were any significant plan to be fair concerning the developments of the eSports over the past 2 or 3 years.
I do feel that the community outside of eSports should engage more in this aspect because the games are exciting, and short! I believe if the eSports scene is to grow, Wargaming should attempt to publicise more about this area, particularly the very top competitive end of it, and hopefully more players from the game will not only play the game for fun, but enjoy the competitive side as well.
Wg should make more players play tournaments
And I don't mean QT...
I mean bigger ones
For example PYS tourneys were designed for up to 256 teams, but roughly 80 played every time.. that lead to weird seeding in 2nd day etc..
Tbh many good players play the game just to participate in the tourneys and after the major tourneys they go afk, because the game particularly isn't the most enjoyable thing to do...so the tournament side of the game should be even with the public one
Not only that, but more players to watch the top clans play against one another as well 😉 We are talking about <5% of the player base for the viewership across all the streams (for both EU and Asia server), and maybe just ~8% of the player base for participating in tournaments, which leaves much to be desired.
In the end, when I chat about WoTB, I do really want to hear "tournaments" or eSports being part of the conversation, not just the new tanks or the new containers 🙂
Currently, I really appreciate the job done by both Sirius and Knopka for responding well to 4 of our demands. If they were the main reason behind a likely delay of the release of Update 7.3, I would be even more excited to see the future of eSports in the game (and obviously very happy for what they did too), and I sincerely hope it will become more popular and competitive.
It's a mobile game though. Most mobile players won't ever care about any tournaments taking place in whatever game they play on their phones or op ads. They just want to play the game
I think that's the main reason tournaments never have a very high priority for wg, and why it's not used in the game's advertisements and all. It only caters to a very small percentage of players
The players that do get themselves involves in it generally take things -very- seriously, but like I said - tiny percentage of the players total
I've already told you in pm, Artem, but will do so here as well. Thank you for everything you've done for us, tournaments and the community as a whole. We may not have always agreed, but it definitely won't be the same without you, and we'll miss you ❤️
^^^^
Can we get an F in the chat for Rexy?
F
F
A vast majority of the players arent interested in top tours for a variety of reasons. Most are 'fair weather players' who enjoy rolling out every now and then between lectures/meetings and stuff. You then have those who arent good enough to make the grade and therefore consider it a waste of time and effort, I mean when you are a low seed clan (45% lets say) and your 1st game is against RA1D or someone of that calibre, then trust me you will lose interest very quickly in top tours. However, whilst the Esport side is in comparison to the overall player base small, it does hold a lot of some very positive aspects not just for the player base but also for WG. The more tours there are then the more interest in the game overall, but only if it is marketed well and has good publicity. There are diehard fans out there and more and more come along to watch, mostly to gain the small stream rewards, but again its money for old rope really. Its understandable that maybe its not a top priority, but there is so much that could be done that would greatly benefit all parties, you could even go as far as seeing if the top clans would be open for little challenges, nothing big or special, but like rolling out against a lower order clan just for fun - like a charity football match type thing. I do think the Tier 8 tour was an attempt to garner more interest, but guess it kinda failed somewhat, but it was a good start really.
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Wg should make more players play tournaments
And I don't mean QT...
I mean bigger ones
For example PYS tourneys were designed for up to 256 teams, but roughly 80 played every time.. that lead to weird seeding in 2nd day etc..
Tbh many good players play the game just to participate in the tourneys and after the major tourneys they go afk, because the game particularly isn't the most enjoyable thing to do...so the tournament side of the game should be even with the public one
@steel shell for me I think the big youtubers should help wargaming and themselves make the propaganda. They have more than 10k subs so more than 10k players. They can explain the positive of playing tournaments.
+credits
+golds
+new friends (communication)
+1
Increase the group stage in big tournaments*
@analog osprey most of the big name YT'ers dont do tours mate and generally dont stream them and their viewer base is a different kind of viewer, from what I can tell. I do however agree that we YT'ers could do more and I would be more than happy to pull together a propaganda video on tours - in fact I do say in almost every stream that peeps should do tours for the easy credits!
As Fugit says - most of the big youtubers don't do tournaments, and don't care for tournaments. Bushka refused to stream them because it doesn't earn him anything (his words, mind), and his normal streams and videos do. That's saying something about how many people it draws in
He did do the offlines, but there's different things and free trips involved there - until he didn't do that either
There are a couple of discontinued tournaments that Wargaming should re-consider in the future:
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A Swiss-system tournament: This tournament system was used 2 years ago for tier 8 and tier 10. Clans are drawn in groups of similar skill. This definitely helps rectify the problem mentioned by Fugit and many others, about less competent clans facing the very able clans in the first two stages. This system is also beneficial to building clans who wish to train different clans on one single night. I believe Wargaming should bring this back during off-seasons.
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Challenge the Stars tournament: This tournament decides on a team to challenge the best team in the server. The nature of the tournament itself is a huge marketing opportunity and I'm somewhat baffled that WG didn't do more of this.
Other ideas:
- An invitational battle between the best teams of both EU and CIS region. This will draw in a lot of audience for sure for the intense battles.
I don’t say they should stream but just make a video 10min explain about tournament.
Even the big youtubers, if they stream, they don't get all their subs to watch. For instance - if Darren streams, he gets 300-400 people for his random streams.
The portal stream, which gives rewards, gets about 300, if we're lucky
My point is that the average player has no interest, not that the average youtuber doesn't want to stream the tournaments
Making a video about how exciting it can be won't change that.
Only a very small portion of the playerbase is actually good enough to make it, and an tiny portion of that group actually wins or earns anything from it
WG doesn’t do the best of jobs promoting it tho
Ironically after a nice chat with Rolling & Zird after Spring Season I did attempt to raise awareness of Tours - ok so maybe joining Zenith wasnt the best idea, but they were prepared to take me and let me stream their TX tours and training, which I did and got quite some interest from viewers - but alas that all went pear shaped for reasons not associated with the game at all - hence why I'm clanless lol
Because there's little interest in it, @narrow meteor. 99% of the playerbase, or thereabouts, will never be good enough to amount to anything with tournaments..it literally caters to just a tiny percentage. It makes sense for wg not to invest tons into it
Not trying to talk people down btw. I'd love for the whole scene to grow and to get a proper active following. I'm just being realistic based on what I've seen over the years
Fair point
Especially them @azure void with 50k @thorn shale with 24k , memastergamer with 45k
Amaunet is right - I mean I am an average player and I rolled out against APA and some other notable clans (their top teams) in my time with ZNTH and its quite an experience for an average player. Its more intense, more nervy, needs more focus and you discover quickly that you dont even know the basics that well - where to hit, spotting, resetting camo, moving wihtout being spotted etc etc and its a totally different kind of play style which a lot of players just wont enjoy - although I must admit Ioved every single minute even when being shouted at 🙂 Why because it is a totally different game style and its what the game is about in my opinion - proper teamwork and played like chess
- Challenge the Stars tournament: This tournament decides on a team to challenge the best team in the server. The nature of the tournament itself is a huge marketing opportunity and I'm somewhat baffled that WG didn't do more of this.
It was a good idea but top teams didn't really take it seriously. They had already won when it mattered so they kinda made a joke of it.
Wg and Pantouf don't have the best of relations, and MMG threw in his own windows more than enough time
So that just leaves Meadsy
And I'm sure he'd be happy enough to make a tournament video, but I highly doubt that would change anything about the whole tournament situation. Even if wg massively decided to advertise, it'd change little. More teams might try, but probably only once, because of the fact they won't win anything because they lack the skill and know-how
What happened to Bushka on Blitz? Didn’t he stream tournaments?
To be honest it does remind me of professional football matches. I believe a huge proportion (conservative estimate of >99.9% global population) is not "well-equipped" to be a very top football player, but still we are seeing in every day life lots of people being football fans.
I think the eSports side of this game is also similar in many ways. Yes you may never be as good as the top clans in the server but you will never be bored of the tournament games!
I definitely think there is a huge marketing opportunity here and I believe it should be invested upon. It can cater a big proportion. Even if it doesn't persuade people to partake in tournaments, having more viewership in tournament games is more than good sign here.
He tried it once, ages ago, then refused to do it because it literally didn't earn him anything (his words), @ornate agate
@crisp shore you're currently comparing live sports matches to an online game that doesn't have any famous names attached to it if you're not a part of the game, no millions go into sponsoring or transfers, shirts with advertisements, etc
And football has a world following
Well, I ll wedge into your conversation to leave some words, if you dont mind 🙂
The prizes wg gives don't cater to the little man. There's no different leagues as such that still give great prizes. It's basically top 4 of your server or nearly nothing.
With football, that's very different.
Amaunet raises the main point. Like I said its easy enough to garner interest in pulling together a team, but when you are low seeded and come up against the top seeds in the opening rounds then its just frustration and disappointment and not worth the effort for many players. Alas 99% of the player base isnt able to reach the dizzy heights and as such will just face disappointment and wont be overly happy with losing so quickly and so often. If you can change that, then yes more will be open but the Top 4 across the servers wont really change and thus it is what it is. Faced with this QT's are more entertaining to most
Football is completely different because it has an armchair following that is vast and superstars who are celeb's in their own right. WOTB doesnt have that and it took football a long time to get there! I mean in footballers of 40 years ago were not earning what footballers earn now. Not only that but football was marketed to the 'working classes' - it was meant to be cheap n cheerful - how times have moved on lol
I remember when we had that tournament series with like-stats seeding. We at GNA decided to play for fun. Instantly got LOCA or LGN or some such. Stats wise, we're great. Tournament wise, absolutely not. Only ever played quick tournaments after that
Ive seen half a clan quit over a quick tournament
@latent olive keep what u are doing. I like your stream
It doesn't have a following without a good reason and audience. Some risky investment has to be made at the start and I hope WG will make the initiative. It doesn't have to be encouraging more players to play in tournament. It could just be getting the players to be fervent of the clans they support, and letting them know there is an eSports side to this game and they are very exciting to watch. I wish in the future for an average WoTB player, the conversation between their friends won't be just "oh... how do you think of the new tank?" or "I hate this matchmaking...", but "which team do you think would be winning the Twister Cup?" or "which teams will get the top 8 ticket in the end?"
To be honest it does remind me of professional football matches. I believe a huge proportion (conservative estimate of >99.9% global population) is not "well-equipped" to be a very top football player, but still we are seeing in every day life lots of people being football fans.
Well, for one, not everyone watching sports has the means to do so at any given moment. For many, playing blitz would be more enjoyable than watching top teams play, and you can just as easily pull out your phone to play blitz or watch it.
Comparing it to other esports games, those are watched because stakes are higher as has been mentioned, but also because you get to truly experience the games from the top player perspective. One thing I just realized is that while free cam gives a very good view of the macro strategy involved in these games, it does very little to get people excited about actually participating in these games. In other esports, you are able to see from the player's perspective, almost putting you in the shoes of the players, which makes it much more relatable and makes it easier for you to imagine yourself in the situation. You can imagine how that is a plus for nurturing involvement in the tournaments. Currently, there is no such thing to be able to do so for blitz.
@analog osprey thanks mate, I certainly intend to lol - thats why I went to ZNTH to get more experience at top tier tours to give a better viewing experience for those watching - its still a work in progress but I like learning new things 🙂
I completely get that for below average players it can't be enjoyable to get raped in 1st round, but that can be fixed
What about making tournaments (not the big ones ofc) for the lower skilled teams? Like 40to 50 % wr, they would play vs even opponents and they would like to get better and progress
Normal tourneys that can be 3 times per week, same rewards like the normal ones, I highly doubt someone would try to cheat that
@steel shell quite frankly, I think that'd get massively rigged, especially if they get proper prizes
If you look at the amount of rigging and dirty things happening this season alone already, I can easily imagine how it'd definitely all go to hell for a low winrate tournament with prizes
I can already see the 0% accounts with the rest of the team 60%
I mean they shouldn’t have proper prizing lol, should be the same as a quick tournament or a season tournament
Ah in that way 🤔 yeah maybe that could work, @steel shell they'd win something, at least. But I still don't think it'd change much when you look at overall activity
Would you guys be playing tournaments if not for the two big seasons per year? Would you legit be making an effort otherwise?
I completely get that for below average players it can't be enjoyable to get raped in 1st round, but that can be fixed
What about making tournaments (not the big one ofc) for the lower skilled teams? Like 40to 50 % wr, they would play vs even opponents and they would like to get better and progress
@steel shell And hence why I suggest WG should bring back Swiss-system tournaments, that were around about 2 years ago. They could also use this opportunity to test a new seeding system. This should be released during off-seasons.
I still think the big season tournaments should remain in a strongest-against-weakest principle because they are meant for prepared teams, not pub teams.
...In other esports, you are able to see from the player's perspective, almost putting you in the shoes of the players, which makes it much more relatable and makes it easier for you to imagine yourself in the situation...
@flat goblet To be honest you can jump into the player's perspective while spectating and I do think it does bring a similar experience too.
Perhaps when off lines come back they increase the number of teams that go... that’ll surely create more Incentives
@steel shell I want leagues!!! I think that would be great for the game but it can be abused (as Amaunet quite rightly points out 😦 Maybe if prizes are equal to QT prizes then no big issue and maybe throw in a camo or an avatar - its not like they cost a shed load really and peeps like glittery thingies like that
Maybe once the pro season is over I may ask nicely if a clan will let me stream their QT's 😉
To be honest you can jump into the player's perspective while spectating and I do think it does bring a similar experience too.
It's not at all the same though. You don't see how the player moves and looks around, you don't see the game from the same perspective at all.
@leaden belfry no, I wouldn't play quickies and normal tourneys if there were no big ones, already took break after last season and gonna take another one now
@latent olive I mean.. something like clan rating would be cool ngl
It's not at all the same though. You don't see how the player moves and looks around, you don't see the game from the same perspective at all.
^ this. But also, I feel that you lose the oversight of the battle as a whole if you do this, and unless you're actually a pro player, what happens will no longer make much sense imo, to the general viewer
I mean yeah, that’s the thing. Most good players from good clans will not play during the off season as it simply doesn’t interest them, I don’t play any other tournaments than the pro ones usually.
U guys are writing too much. U are killing my brain
The problem itself is not only in WG, but in the way casual player look at it
Instead of playing QTs, he might play few randoms and he will get more credits than in casual QT
Instead of playing Big tourneys, he can donate and get what he wants or make a reroll, get into one of the teams and get his absolutely undeserved avatar and camo
As Dieu said above - there is nothing that WG DOES to keep the tournament audience in there, except those 100-200 players, who are always been in top8-top4 or near it
There is no need to play tours, there is no SPECIAL treatment which needs to be done to keep players interested in the tourneys and old veterans - to play the game more
I myself losing the interest in the game bcoz i have everything and there is no more challenges I want to compete
There is no battle tasks like in WoT, there is no global map, like in WoT, there is basically no need in the clans because they exists only for some useless discounts and clantag in the game
Even streamers prefer to do casual streaming than the tourney stream because it is really more profitable for them
In my opinion there three things needed to be done:
-Get rid of the "crates-the-only-way" path and start to make the premium tanks being achievable harder. I am speaking about those OP things like Action X and others, why not to start making personal battle tasks and place those tanks there. Ofc there is going to be less audience with it - but it will make them more desirable to have
-Make leagues. The league thing is really OP, and you should put there really something EXCLUSIVE, which many of players wont have any chance to get but to rush THIS particular tourney
-Start to seed the teams correctly and in a proper manner and also invent some rules, which will exclude forever the players like rerolls and many other things from even having a chance to PARTICIPATE, so that people will think more about such actions
Like WG wants to collab with me ahah
wow Innerman and I agree on something for once - LEAGUES! 🤣 - now I have to wait 5 mins, but couldnt let that one go amiss
@thorn shale to promote tournaments
for me I think the big youtubers should help wargaming and themselves make the propaganda. They have more than 10k subs so more than 10k players. They can explain the positive of playing tournaments.
+credits
+golds
+new friends (communication)
^ that was said somewhere above
@latent olive I really agree with Leagues. I think rocket leagues old esports format would work well for blitz. It worked by having 10 of the best teams in one league where they would play each other for about 2 months, then the 2 teams with the worst record would be regulated into the lower league (also 10 teams) while the 2 best teams from the lower league would be brought up to the upper league for the next season. Each season was usually 4 months and resulted in an offline. For rocket league it was the best 4 teams went to an offline. I think this would be the best representation of your idea
^ this. But also, I feel that you lose the oversight of the battle as a whole if you do this, and unless you're actually a pro player, what happens will no longer make much sense imo, to the general viewer
To the average player, the player view would make much more sense than the macro view. For pushes, clutch 1v1 or 2v2, or holds, I would much rather have a player view to access than a free cam. The goal here would be to make these games more relatable to the average pub player, while at the same time providing insight to them. Experienced tournament players could probably have a video of the minimap and have a pretty good idea of what is going on, but these should not be the target audience for streams.
Like WG wants to collab with me ahah
@thorn shale that was my reply too, that you don't have the best of relations 😅😂
Excuse me for my poor English, I am pretty tired as it is late night here on Cyprus, and I have just spent three hours of speaking to the client and correcting the docs, thats why my brains dont work accurately (as always)
@latent olive By the way, you are always welcome to join us, if you want to XD
I wanted to discuss it with you and Jack @crisp shore later other day if you dont mind🌚 😂
and let's be honest, promoting tournaments is worthless. Tournaments are full of P2W tanks and tryhard. It's either youn really like challenges and it's for you, or else you don't care. And us streamers are not in RBM for the "ratings fun" we are here because it's free stuff for subs. We will promote this system when they'll get rid of premiums tanks into it. These tanks have no place here
@narrow meteor I think leagues is a natural progression and would bring interest to all types of players - new and vet alike. Just like Ratings for Clans lol If done well you could in theory dispense with Ascent tour, with the Top 8 being determined by league place and then go into player offs (Pro Tour) to get to the offline - it could work in theory.
@frozen schooner Always happy to chat when you are available mate and Cyprus aint that late pffft I'm in Dubai lol
I agree with Innerman's points. Just adding to the points:
- I think the opportunity to use a tank that could simply be bought, and better than the tech tree tanks, is unfair inherently because the game is free-to-play, which caters all players from different economic backgrounds. Wargaming should send a clear message that hard-work and high-skill should be rewarded, not having TONS of money.
- I like the league idea as well, which can garner a fixed number of audience and keeps teams interested. It doesn't have to be very tense like 3 tournaments in a week -- just a weekly tournament (i.e. matchday) would do. Then, you could also have a month or two of break, or we could have a big tournament during the break.
- I really want to see the seeding working properly. The league is a good start to do tournament ratings but having one rating tournament per week for non-league teams is also a good place to start.
3b. Furthering the third point from Innerman, Wargaming should be more strict with Rule 2.1.1, which prohibits anyone from rigging the game, and "rigging" the tournament seeding should theoretically be a violation of such rule. In the end, there is no perfect system that does not allow any form of rigging at all, and this is exactly why Wargaming should be more aware and enforce Rule 2.1.1 in the future for unscrupulous manipulation of tournament seeding too.
Point 1 will never happen. At the end of the day, wargaming is a company, not a charity. Tournaments secondary function is showcasing tanks. That's why the meta is changed every half year or so, by something being added, something being nerfed or overbuffed. It makes people want to grind or spend money to get them
Again, not saying I disagree, just being realistic
In an ideal world, tournaments would get way better prizes, they'd be tech tree only, seeding would be fair and can't be abused, there'd be no cheating or throwing, etc. But that's very far from the actual reality 😬
True, I get that wg needs to make money, BUT
They should make all prems/collectors avaible for all players for direct purchase (not crates)
Or I get the crates with the charms, now just make them avaible for reasonable amount of money
Crates themselves are a whole other matter. I buy them, but I despise them. Gambling in a game with mostly minors is an ugly thing. But for most countries, as long as wg states the drop chance, they're legal
They did by putting charms in crates, at least for T10. And just for that I want to thank them. Even if like everyone I hate crates
I'm still going to call it out, premium/collector tanks have no place in tournament games. Shouldn't look at the 'justification' for it as acceptable.
I'm not saying it's acceptable. I'm saying it won't change
and let's be honest, promoting tournaments is worthless. Tournaments are full of P2W tanks and tryhard. It's either youn really like challenges and it's for you, or else you don't care. And us streamers are not in RBM for the "ratings fun" we are here because it's free stuff for subs. We will promote this system when they'll get rid of premiums tanks into it. These tanks have no place here
Unfortunately in the world every sport has a certain P2W aspect and with that being said promoting every sport is worthless too. What we could do is to minimise the P2W aspect of tournaments. Currently, I think there are loads of talking points and unique selling points of tournaments, such as the excitement of the games brought by the tactics and unusual moves/rotations from teams that I have repeatedly mentioned before. This is exactly why I started promoting tournaments, streaming, and preparing a crazy amount of stuff for my streams in the first place.
Wg has no reason to ban any kind of tank from any kind of tournament
@crisp shore yaaaaay💞 totally agree, WG should start to make some permanent bans, I can show them some juicy targets tho🌚
@latent olive aint that late, unless you need to wake up at 5 to get to work and catch some american clients to make some contracts XD
@leaden belfry through out my managerial expercience, it would be much more profitable to have small donations by 5 euro from 1000 customers, than 25 from 100, as it usually goes with the crates system
It was nice at the start, it is boring now, when I go to random on tier 8 to face 13/14 players riding the premiums from crates being 46% sh.... players.
And we all forgot one main point!
-REMOVE ATGM BR... oops, sorry, came from my heart😂
Jack I still think, as a lawyer, that you are flogging a dead donkey with 3b lol.
As for premium tanks in tours, well that is a double edged sword really. WG needs to make cash after all and what better way to do that than getting the best players in the game to effectively showcase them. However, the T8 tour was a joke when certain clans take a full line up of 252U's. WG will never remove Prem's from tours but they should restrict the amount that can be fielded to a max of say 2. The overall guiding issue is that WG MUST make money or else there is no game simple really. I am not a fan of crates but I do like the fact that at least they introduced charms to restrict the expense - a small step yes, but a positive one - more can be done however 😉
Also, just in general, just because I understand why wg does or doesn't do something, doesn't mean in any way that I agree with them
Well, we have already seen that currently, tournaments are not all that popular with the general playerbase. So to say that WG would lose a considerable amount of money from not allowing premium tanks in tournaments would be counter-intuitive.
To my understanding, gentleman's agreement only works if everyone has access to it, so if someone starts using it, then everyone can, so it's not applicable here.
I use my cc position mainly to nag at them about all the things I disagree with - tournaments included
I'd bring something from CoD
It's called GA (gentlemen's agreement) basically it means, that for scrims/tournaments certain weapons are banned/ restricted to some amount even though you can use them ofc.. everything is up to players and it works really good... To be fair, when that works in game that is multiple times bigger, has bigger player base, why it wouldn't work here?
At least in pro tourneys would be nice gesture from "pros" to show the game is playable at high level without premiums/collectors
@thorn shale too many e's, Dyno autodeleted 😬
Blitz playerbase has no shame...look at the 100% accts this season
The thing is I believe WG's Game Rules are very ambiguous in a way that it encompasses a big part of potential violation, but at the same time it encompasses a smart part of certain violation. Let's not just look into Rule 2.1.1 for one second, but Rule 2.1.7 does state WG can take action under their discretion, which basically means if WG thinks you are acting in bad faith, they can ban you. I do agree WG needs to update their Game Rules, and write a new set of regulations for every tournament.
When it comes to throwing games or cheating, it's very difficult for wg to take action, because those things are very hard to prove and messages on other platforms than in game are not seen as evidence
The seeding system has been like this for years - but until this season it's never been this heavily abused, so wg has not seen fit to change it sooner. Hopefully, by next season, this hole will be closed as well
Main thing imo is making more clear rules and rules for a tournament series as a whole. All of this - Prove your Skill, Qualifiers, Finals later on - is one tournament, which wg classifies as three different ones. There need to be rules per season, even if their are amendments for specific parts of it.
Information, including dates and rules and maps and all of it, should be posted well in advance - at least two weeks before the start of the season.
Imo that stuff should be worked on before making tournaments more popular - or you just get more people either being a victim of the system or abusing the system
The Game Rules do need to be updated with new sections covering not just Tours but also Ratings, but that an argument for a different channel. With regard to tours the Game Rules only apply to 'in game actions' as such or clear proof of rigging, like agreeing to throw a game or such. WR seeding doesnt fall under these catagories because its not really rigging. There is no rule that states a player cannot re-roll and create a clan then join a tour. Its not actually cricket as we would say in England, but its not illegal either. If they were to take action like envisaged then every player on a re-roll account would be at risk, which is a large catchment.
I am a big believer in rules (lawyer lol) and the Tours need updated rules that are freely available and easily understood
But there was also a complaint about certain member not having a TX and thus couldnt play. Again the rules do not prevent any player from joining a team, but if they dont have a TX then they cant play. Its these things that need updating so that only players with a tank in the tier can join the team, like they did with making it impossible for PC players to actually join a touch team
Tbf I wouldn't consider 1 game account as reroll..
Just clarify in the rules that for example"reroll acc is account with at least 1k regular battles"
"For any account with less battles, participation in the tournament is prohibited"
The difference between a 100WR acc few game vs a legitimate 70WR reroll is substantial.
@steel shell exactly! Update the rules to catch these things without punishing all and sundry. I like that idea and that would certainly go some way to removing the mischief
Imo 6k would work better because 1k still has newbie mm - or count ratings battles in the profile, even if winrate is only over pub battles. Specify it on the profile.
Don't really see wg do that though XD but it'd be nice
But yeah, general tournament rules would be even better than per season rules. It could all be specified a lot easier
It didn't say anywhere that the Game Rules only apply to "in-game actions". It even says on Rule 1 that it applies to "the Game, general game and other channels", so it definitely does apply outwith the battles in the game. However, I think the argument to define if a certain action constitutes a "rigged" situation stands, and that is quite hard to reason, even if the stats do suggest a strong influence on the outcome.
Back to my point 3b, I believe Wargaming cannot just fold their arms and allow unscrupulous manipulation of seeding or similar kind to continue. This is because there is always a way to rig the system, however perfect the system is. If a certain action, that is not stated in the rules, is unscrupulous enough to unfairly put the team to a position that is obviously unworthy, Wargaming should enforce Rule 2.1.1, which is the basis of my point after all.
I cannot emphasize enough that Wargaming must update the Game Rules and create a new set of common rules for tournaments, however.
Yeah.. tbf sometimes the solution is just so simple.. I have no idea why the fixes are usually not implemented in ongoing seasons...
You see problem, you try to fix it.
If your house is burning, you don't go sleep with "it will burn even in the morning" phrase...
True, 6k is the border, on other side, good players will remain with similar stats and it wouldn't make that much difference in terms of using 100er with one battle comparing to 80% with 1k/75% with 6k you know
Anyway, gn all
They already said they're working on a different seeding system though, Jack, so they're not just folding their arms. At the same time, they can't (read: won't) change the rules mid season. The seeding abuse has happened before, and was allowed then, it just did not get abused to this extend. Wg can't go against it now when they didn't address it back then either.
It's after 1am here now, I'm off to bed. Good night, everyone ❤️ fingers crossed things will change for the better, and soon
I'm happy to know that they are working on a different system, which I have stated multiple times. However, my point is that still there will be imperfections in the new system and people will find a way to manipulate that. I was just stating Wargaming cannot again allow actions that are blatantly done in favour of their team to continue, actions that we don't know what form it could come. The laissez-faire approach to actions that could jeopardise an entire season is simply not going to be fair for everyone.
like most things contractual when they 1st come out everyone thinks everything is caught, its not until you work the contract that the flaws appear and are then exploited. That happens all the time and it then takes time to implement a change to remove that particular mischief. On a positive side we have seen WG take far more action this year over tours than previously, with bans after the summer season, changes to the cups after Spring and now consideration of reworking the seeding. These are positive steps and they cant happen overnight. They recently introduced (it was silly) a 2 week in the clan rule and they got shot down, but at least they were prepared to consider things like this albeit the timing was so so bad lol
And you see, instead setting 2 seasons per year, wg gona do 4 seasons per year which will decrease the value of the pro tour further, this will worse the situation of players dislike participate in tournaments
We shall see, with time comes change. We do know that WG does listen to what we say here. We shouldn’t become pessimistic or take jabs at WG just because they don’t implement our ideas or suggestions immediately like I’ve seen in this channel previously over matters that the majority of us have agreed on.
How are tourney rewards distributed between players?
@weary hull if u re talking about pro qualifier tournament then reward is given to everyone in team. Per person gets
can we have an idea of when we will be able to again play with +- 50ping? kind of boring to play with 120 and 5% PL
@patent quartz oh, you are playing with better ping with me, please share))
I am usually playing with 150+- ping here on Cyprus)
but it is not always 120 just so you know, during our matches vs APA and RA1D many of my shots actually came out 2 sec after i press the button... not enjoyable and kind of tilting
When tourney started i also started to have 150 ping or more using mobile data as always. Blyat. When i usually had 60-70
Yennefer had ping in every match using mobile data also shoting with 2 sec delay, I am not sure but I think my pick on middleburg also wasn’t intentional and I stopped a tank a bit earlier,lost 1000 hp
Had some laggy moments
Lol I play with 150 ping on NA all the time , it’s not bad🤣
It's different... If u play like that it's fine, but if it's spikes... It's annoying
Steady ping you can work with. As Danda says - it's the spikes and sudden package loss
I can only dream of 50 ping lol
@warped patrol thats coz your fav tank isnt what it used to be lol
You don’t know which tank is my fav xD
but it is not always 120 just so you know, during our matches vs APA and RA1D many of my shots actually came out 2 sec after i press the button... not enjoyable and kind of tilting
@patent quartz +1
Can we get streaming schedule again for all servers. Thanks!
ASIA:
Fugit: M3 - FEAST v GV M4: ID v FEAST
Wildoneshelper (coin stream): M3 - ID v BOON, M4-HLV v RN
Eternal_Sinzan (JP): M3 - LOW v RN, M4: CATS v BOON
xiyangkun (CN): M3 - HLV v CATS, M4- LOW v GV
EU:
Amaunet: M3 - SOULS v LGN, M4 - RA1D v LGN
Fugit (coin stream): M3 - LOCA v W1N, M4 - W1N v IMMOR
3very: M3 - RA1D v EG, M4 - LOCA v EG
Wildoneshelper: M3 - APA v IMMOR, M4 - APA v SOULS
R1B (Ger): M3 - RA1D v EG, M4 - RA1D v LGN
NA - not 100% certain yet
🧐
Am I correct in understanding that team average winrate in tourneys don’t take into account the number of battles?
Yes
Ok, thanks for confirming
Your stream schedule (already stated by Fugit for the clans):
Fugit's Blitz: https://youtu.be/OGmC9HkhF8s
Wildoneshelper: https://youtu.be/f-l9cv6Xp30
Eternal_sinzan: https://youtu.be/8XHgUCKgrsQ (Corrected link)
xiyangkun: https://live.bilibili.com/879288?src=draw (I believe?)
Eternal_sinzan will be streaming in Japanese while xiyangkun will be streaming in Mandarin.
My stream will be a reward stream. You can get your rewards with this link: https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/354/description/
@latent olive the Swiss WiFi are perfect
best I have ever had was in Moscow - 5 ping lol @analog osprey
https://youtu.be/pgcZGu2TCCE it should be like that
Asia server/ Singapore
I have 20-30 ping normally expect the last days I have 70-80.
Yea follow Ernest channel pls
👌
💦
@warped patrol finally decided to dip your toes back into Asia! you were missed lol
Depends on my location 😎
some nice clutches by ID gg
great games today on Asia! really exciting
gotta keep things exciting hahahah
My ping during games was above 200 +5% loss lol
Hryyy accept me in stream I'm just simple but naughty hahahahahah
uhhh, new tank during top 8?
Just get over it xd
At least they postponed the update for a day so all the broken things don't come on tournament day
it's not even about being butthurt or not. it's about invalidating the results for anything that was played prior of the update. by making changes of any kind you're invalidating the results that are played before the changes arrive.
Some years ago wg promised not to release a tier X tank mid tournament season. But then, they also promised never to sell the E25 with the First camo ever again too 🙃
WG can't keep promises most of the time, I can't even remember when they last kept their word on a promise. :/
Ahhhhh your want us to be loser jokr newbie
Some years ago wg promised not to release a tier X tank mid tournament season. But then, they also promised never to sell the E25 with the First camo ever again too 🙃
@leaden belfry its time to say goodbye to your Cc for this opinion, kek
any proper esports titles and also TOs (tournament organizers) will avoid changes to be made into any ongoing competition in order to ensure the results of the gameplay are valid. By allowing changes to go into any ongoing competition you are now creating a situation where the first 2 days of competition, the results can be put into question whether they're accurate or not. If wargaming's response is to continue with this they will just basically throw any competition (and also the Esport scene) out of the window and there's isn't much point playing in a competition where the validity of the results of some of the matches can be questioned.
it's not even about promises anymore. it's about wargaming failing as a tournament organizer to allow things like these happening during the biggest competition of the title.
Nah, I'm allowed to be as critical as I want, as long as I phrase it politely, @glad tartan
And in this case, I'm only pointing out it's not the first promise wg has broken, and it won't be the last
But I am legit glad it's at least coming tomorrow, so they'll have 24 hours to fix all the bugs that'll come with the update
No bugs
Still not entirely happy that it was not postponed until next Monday because of the tournaments, with various reasons I have pointed out before. However, it is at least not during tournament games where we could have had teams with players updating the game during the tournaments
Kran could be here like one week ago when the first stage ended, so the top8 could be with Krans...like with new meta..but WG things, as alwas 🤣
I don't like the compromises in standard right now
we play competitions, we want it fair and square. I don't care we already won 4 matches or not already, if there's any changes, you cannot deny the chances of them affecting all of the results that we just went through, so what if something could've gone better if the update came earlier/ later? do we blame it on RNG not giving us that matchup earlier? no we will be putting that on Wargaming failing as a TO, invalidating the entire tournament and can't do their job properly.
@JSTN_Rl 🙂
Your stream schedule for EU server:
Amaunet85: https://youtu.be/sp3BHtjVAFg
Fugit's Blitz: https://youtu.be/AHYL6xcrNZ0
Wildoneshelper: https://youtu.be/qOgOVrnB8mo
3very: https://youtu.be/OKaFV3d5etY
R1B will be streaming in German and the link will be provided soon.
Fugit's Blitz has the coin stream tonight. Watch it through the portal here: https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/365/description/
Some years ago wg promised not to release a tier X tank mid tournament season. But then, they also promised never to sell the E25 with the First camo ever again too 🙃
@leaden belfry and to not make the game pay to win, to let prems be a bit worse than tech trees etc xd
@marsh cliff xdddddd
lmao
Streams for NA tonight?
droodles is doing the rewards stream tonight, dont have the link yet
He wants to know who’s streaming who
dont think we know that yet
Yo WG, if we could not get disconnected in the middle of our battles would be much appreciated, cant u just pause your Data transfers for the tournament time?
ping goes brrrrrrrr
data transfer go brrrrr
Updates and top 8 don’t mix well. Can’t wait to see how this goes
yea the rage gonna be good
Waow had a rly good time reading all of u on the CWs future topic. Unfortunately no answer from WG representatives (yet) ... still u can see that many people has ideas to put forward and I really believe that the CW scene will never be meant to have a massive amount of participants but, if it is properly marketed, if we are able to have some kind of storytelling behind the clans and the best players, then we can start to bring wide interest.
And today with current tournament structure (basically we hear about clan wars 2 times a year) you will never be able to build the needed continuity between the player base and the professional players and clans.
I mean there are tons of story to tell (use to have LGN R2K rivalry, there are some kind of national teams like win or raid and I am sure many other stuff about players for example... ) but no one is telling these sorties ( even if u @crisp shore address it a bit during Friday’s night with... and the debrief sesssions ... btw loving this stuff!).
I really see it as a matter of proper marketing. And for sure creating league would be very good to achieve this constant link between player base and clans (+ proper streaming + in game advertising....)
@frosty nexus @muted ore the floor is yours 😉
Polish derby, Japanese derby, LGN EG- rivalry... They are really good talking points. I was even trying to rally the Polish community for the Polish derby tonight! XD
@forest matrix Make sure you join the voice chat of FNWW tomorrow (yes it is going to be on Thursday) (open forum)
@leaden belfry @latent olive do you know the streaming schedule for NA tonight?
they are both sleeping lol, we have no idea
@thorn shale
Droodles: 7RATS vs. _V_, then RGN vs. _V_
PapaRage: RGN vs. GMA, then -MM vs. PNCR
Fishy__: PNCR vs. ISHTR, then GMA vs. SHIR0
Fugit's Blitz: -MM vs. SHIR0, then 7RATS vs. ISHTR
ofc its an eu player that knows the na schedule lmao
@crisp shore thanks mate
ofc its an eu player that knows the na schedule lmao
@surreal hinge I should consider streaming NA in the future 😂
@surreal hinge Im still asleep tbf 😴 but not many will catch my stream of NA so the snoring wont have a major effect 🥱 But yes, the schedule is as per Wildoneshelper 🙂
lol all good fugit
lol I have 2 people watching and 1 of those is most likely my mom lol
WOW really amazing series from the 3rd round, that was crazy
Yo that RGN vs V rnd 2 was actually kinda hype
Would of been hype if we played well but RGN played better so rip. GGs to them
Surprised GMA got so close to beating RGN
reverse sweep pncr vs ishtr
RGN v GMA, PNCR v ISHTR were really fun to watch
The GMA game definitely was close. I'm surprised to see how much they have improved, definitely better team chemistry.
the second game on v vs rgn was actually exciting, that was really back and forth, ggs to both teams
Stream ended early again I had 5 minutes left. It isn’t supposed to end till 10
Edit: I have 8 of these avatars
its only boosters...
look on the brightside, you got an avatar 🙂
@blissful cradle the streamer has nothing to do with you getting rewards, the rewards are via WG portal which the streamer doesnt control. The only control the streamer has is the length of the stream, nothing else
I got nothing the announcer get mad on me
Ridiculous
Update: I now have eleven of the same avatar, 89 days till they expire.
Really fun series
Ahhhhh it's not you fugits
@blissful cradle lol I know that, I didnt have the coin stream and only 30 peeps watching lol - but it doesnt matter if the streamer gets mad at you, it doesnt effect the rewards even if you are timed out or something in chat because the rewards comes from the WG portal not YT. As long as you watched via the portal you will get the rewards, dont worry
right, I am finally off to bed, 3 tours streams across 3 servers takes it toll! Great games today, good stuff from ISHTR and MM, Shiro and 7RATS - have a good one guys 🙂
@latent olive thanks for streaming
Gn dude
@everyone sorry not about the game just wanted to say Mars is closest to earth then it will be for year's if it is night for you go outside and look to the east you will see a bright red light almost looks like a star. Mars is very pretty today
👍
@chilly hemlock
Who r u
@whole scarab just to verify - did you start watching the stream from the beginning?
@forest matrix We are working to ensure that tournaments will evolve and delight our players. We do not plan to stop there.
However, as I said earlier, we can't announce any plans or ideas in advance.
When will the update be out for Andriod? I hear its already out for iOS in most places
Who streamed GMAvsRGN?
Nvm
Such poor management by wg tournaments has started I can't get in because android haven't received update yet
@muted ore @frosty nexus ^ tournament issues, at the very least for Asia server
Good news for asia players then
Can we not have an update during a tournament season, especially during a tournament stage?
What happened to the update. damn. misses a tourny cause of this.
What happened to the update. damn. misses a tourny cause of this.
@hexed hornet the issue is solved,
What happened to the tournament. I can’t accept the room because they only allow those that are updated already... so we lost the game. Please FIX IT WG
What time will the tournament be moved to ?
@crisp shore oh, nope 😦
@thorn shale we will cancel tourneys on Asia for today and move it to October 12. Registration for them will be reopened
Is the date change of date confirmed for today's Tour??
Thought they can fix it today. Anyway...
Is the date change of date confirmed for today's Tour??
@cyan latch Yes, the tournament was moved on October 12
OK thanks @muted ore
I got reported for missing out tournament
Thanks wg
@thorn shale we couldn't even register since the game didn't let us login. Thankfully they are going to reopen registration
F
@crisp shore there's tournaments almost every day. But at least it's not blitz cup that's being affected here, for now. We'll have to see how tomorrow goes though 😬
I mean by big tournament stages like Blitz Cup Preliminaries. An update during this stage makes zero sense.
Tournament "Season coins #12" for Asia server was moved to October 12, because not all players could install the update.
@whole scarab just to verify - did you start watching the stream from the beginning?
Yes, 8:54pm Eastern
does anyone know the price of the vickers light legendary camo?
likey 2.5k
priceless
GG
@night grove sed
at least it wasn’t on a blitz cup qualifier
Bg
Does anyone from VOID have a clan logo they could please send me 🙂 @chilly hemlock of @tall latch surely you have one? I kinda need it for todays Tour Stream 🙂
@latent olive it’s low quality cuz discord compressed it but u can go on blitzstars, search up v and download their logo
Your stream schedule for Asia server:
Fugit's Blitz: https://youtu.be/xqFHjhJ7NCw
Wildoneshelper: https://youtu.be/wtAAgViRURU
Eternal_sinzan: https://youtu.be/R9DG8DBRccU
xiyangkun: https://live.bilibili.com/879288?src=draw
Eternal_sinzan will stream in Japanese while xiyangkun will stream in Mandarin.
Fugit's Blitz will house the reward stream tonight. Please watch his through the portal: https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/354/description/
Talking points:
- B00N's top 4 hopes will be decided tonight as they face 2 top 4 teams. Fugit will stream one of them.
- -RN- could still keep their top 4 hopes alive but they must beat all of their opponents tonight, which will be streamed on Wildoneshelper's channel.
Congrats to FEAST, HLV, -ID- and GV for advancing to the Blitz Cup!
It didnt come down to the last day?
nah today is mostly the decider
last day is for usually just top 4 placement
@fathom tiger Nope, the 4th and the 5th place are 2 points apart
Time for a top 4 team to get DQ’s
🤔
😂
Time for a top 4 team to get DQ’s
@thorn shale no laughing matter this happened last year
Sry it was meant for memegod
I wasn’t laughing? I’ve only been on Asia for a few months
Ahhh okay, gg’s tonight man, we were to sloppy and you guys held up fantastically @dim pivot
Ggs all games were really close especially the first winter malinovka
Ooo that meme, our Mausy’s bled far to much there, we gave it a good go, we’re happy how we’ve preformed for a team that was created a day before the first prove your skill, I’m just so nervous and stuff as this is my first ever pro tournament
🥱
Necro being a meme
Are these research certificates u get from watching permanent?
@dim pivot GG today, was fun, good luck ahead :D
We’re just memeing around in top 8 anyways lmao
Lion op
The certs are permanent
@chilly terrace also Thank you for all you’ve done here, I’ve been rude to you at times in the past and I’m sorry about that, I appreciate your help and timely responses to our issues. Good luck in the future. (Sorry I’m a little late lol)
Your stream schedule for EU server:
Amaunet85: https://youtu.be/KNECcUzi7ps
Fugit's Blitz: https://youtu.be/2kCcfh38aqg
Wildoneshelper: https://youtu.be/BQ9NlJb4N-k
3very: https://youtu.be/rDtkQxC2Hl0
R1B: https://youtu.be/Zz9uotu0i2o
R1B will be streaming in German.
I will have the reward stream tonight. Please watch it via the portal here: https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/365/description/
Talking points:
- All games will be of equal importance tonight: we have 6 teams that could still get into the top 4 if they have a good run tonight.
- LGN will have a big test ahead as they will face both EG- and LOCA. Amaunet85 will follow them all.
Does anyone from VOID have a clan logo they could please send me 🙂 @chilly hemlock of @tall latch surely you have one? I kinda need it for todays Tour Stream 🙂
@latent olive hey dude, here is the logo, the one shared before is the old one, didn't upload and waiting on cooldown lol
@tall latch Aren't you like, in Void?
@latent olive here it is
@signal lagoon yes why?
Thanks to @crisp shore who decided to put all us streamers to shame with his pretty things, I have stolen his ideas and shall also be running some trailers/promo's on the EU clans I am streaming tonight (W1N, SOULS & RA1D) - hope I dont get shot down too much! Jack stop coming up with ideas man!!!
@tall latch Thanks mate, needed that!
can streamers from other regions (specifically NA) do winner predictions for each group stage match like the RU streamers are doing? I wanna see their opinions
^^^ that would be nice
@slim socket we did do one yesterday on Wildoneshelpers YT channel - named 'friday night with wild' despite it being Thursday
I think his point was if you guys could do one, but for North America too
GMA vs PNCR 🤔 could decide a spot for top 4
Clash of the titans
yup gonna be watching while playing
@muted ore since Fugit is getting to stream the two most important games today is he getting the coin stream?
Have the NA streams been posted yet?
no i just know fugit has the GMA v PNCR games. I think he also has the V vs MM games aswell
@narrow meteor pretty sure fishy has the reward stream tonight
think it is
🥶
Intense on eu. Whoever wins against -W1N- and - EG gets the 4th spot considering RA1D wins
if raid loses and WIN win then immor and win and top 4, if raid wins its up to eg and w1n yea
me 2
Mhm EU looking nice
only LGN and LOCA are totally safe. The rest of the top 4 is yet to be decided
It’s looking spicy
@leaden belfry nope, don’t think so
@pale finch did some of the guys have ping issues tonight?
saw some weird complete misses
apa and souls are totally out tho ama
I had ping..all the time
Some weird shots that leave late even tho loss wouldnt be remarkable
we also found what wg broke this update - free cam 😂
we can't switch to players directly anymore with the shortcuts, and my camera went rogue multiple times
@leaden belfry can you post NA streams
yes =)
Droodles: 7rats vs -MM and 7rats vs GMA
youtube: no link in the spreadsheet
Fishy: ISHTR vs Void and ISHTR vs RGN
youtube: https://youtu.be/zvLbFbiEm5o portal: https://na.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/377/description/
Fugit: GMA vs PNCR and Void vs -MM
youtube: https://youtu.be/aCYtdJpselE
Paparage: SHIR0 vs RGN and SHIR0 vs PNCR
youtube: https://youtu.be/BFF1iV-dLFs
@leaden belfry you mean ISHTR vs RGN not vs PNCR?
Everything will be straightforward if IMM0R lost tomorrow. Then it is going to be the winner of -W1N- vs. EG- in the top 4
yea if
its gonna be hella interesting, and luckily i cover that game
Honestly it’s a 50/50 for me w1n are inconsistent but sometimes they have days where they’re super strong but they also have days where they’re very weak and have underperformed against mediocre teams
@crisp shore *sunday
If IMM0R managed to win somehow, and regardless of S0ULS's result:
-W1N- won --> IMM0R in top 4
EG- won --> -W1N- in top 4 and IMM0R not in top 4
tl;dr RA1D must win against IMM0R. If they lost, they are out. If EG- lost, they are out.
@narrow meteor Today broadcast with awards on NA from Fishy___
Wat r good teir 10 toury tanks?
E5,is4,kran,t22..
Vk90
Vk90 👀
Vickers Light
W1N gave me a few heart attacks - stunning to watch W1N, SOULS & RA1D all 3 clan played some amazing stuff
@leaden belfry @thorn shale the schedule has been changed. Fishy will now show PNCR v GMA and I will stream ISHTR v VOID
Revised Schedule:
Fishy: M5: GMA v PNCR, M6: RGN v ISHTR
Fugit: M5: VOID v ISHTR, M6: VOID v MM
@crisp shore if souls win loca we are out no?
No if immor win and W1N lose, W1N still gets the 4th spot because -EG will have 3 so they overtake -W1N- but -W1N- beat Immor so they get the 4th spot. Oh ic ic I thought I saw something different
@analog osprey S0ULS result won't change anything
No if immor win and W1N lose, W1N still gets the 4th spot because -EG will have 3 so they overtake -W1N- but -W1N beat Immor so they get the 4th spot
@thorn shale That's exactly what I said: EG- won --> -W1N- in top 4 and IMM0R not in top 4 (if IMM0R won)
What’s the deciding factor if there’s three way tie?
if souls win vs immor will be out
direct comparisson
What’s the deciding factor if there’s three way tie?
@jade spoke 1. head-to-head result, 2. number of match wins, 3. duration of battles
Duration of all the top 8 battles combined?
Duration of all the top 8 battles combined?
@jade spoke Sorry for the late reply but I believe is the duration of all the winning battles of that team (I hope Wargaming can clarify on this). If the team wins more quickly than the other, then the former would be further up the table.
Correction: I am streaming GMA vs PNCR and ISHTR vs RGN today
Didn't see that fugit already pointed it out, sorry
@flat goblet Love your streams 🙌 Always a pleasure to watch!
^ this i agree with 100%
Na stream in 12m
What a set of games, ggs to pncr❤️
GMA strong 💪
Rip PNCR, gg.
u show up u play 1 team wins, 1 team loses. Ggs and hope top 4 is intense
^ GGs. I wish the teams in top 4 good luck
no PNCR's tour isnt not over at all - ISHTR lost to VOID so its all to play for still. ISHTR have RGN next, tough game that, and PNCR have Shiro who have yet to win. So its not all doom n gloom for PNCR
Assuming that ISHTR triumps, the finals will be Sunday?
No, there’s one more round robin on Sunday. Top4 will wait until November .
ic ic
This final round is gonna be crazy
I agree
Big game for PNCR on Sunday - make or break time really
yep
Big game for PNCR on Sunday - make or break time really
@latent olive Even if PNCR goes on to beat RGN to tie with ISHTR in the event that they beat MM, ISHTR won the head to head against PNCR so ISHTR would go through. PNCR’s counting on MM to beat ISHTR allowing PNCR the chance to take 4th on points here where they’ll have to beat RGN.
Yikes.
@latent olive the people of mm enjoyed your commentary on our games😂
Got all my stuff
Thanks for the stream @latent olive @flat goblet <3 you're both doing an amazing job, I enjoy watching back other games even though I'm playing too!
they have now with their performance against RGN today - earlier is was even - its not over for PNCR, but its very tough indeed. PNCR needs to beat RGN 4-0 tbf, a tall order indeed as i cant see ISHTR losing to 4-0 to MM
@winged saffron They were awesome games - cant believe you guys actually won 2nd Castilla! That was brilliant indeed!
Thanks for the stream @latent olive @flat goblet ❤️ you're both doing an amazing job, I enjoy watching back other games even though I'm playing too!
@bold kettle ^^^
Thank you all for the praise, it's my pleasure to watch and stream these games. It's the teams and players that make it interesting!
Well done Fishy, Rolling would be glad he has you to cover the tournaments as well as you do
@flat goblet twas out here with 600 viewers
^^^
Fadoo Ramming a Pair of Vickers in his E50M .circa 1965 Colourised
Since GMA beat PNCR, are they top 4 for sure?
affirmative
Yeah, mm and ishtr will be the deciding factor for who gets fourth place.
Hello
RGN, GMA, and Void are confirmed top 4 right now. PNCR and ISHTR are going for fourth. If ISHTR beats MM, they get in no matter what.
Mhm
the stakes be highhhhhh
Rgn gonna win they op
I agree
True, but GMA has improved a lot. Maybe a Top 1/2 spot is waiting. 😊
Is there any live stream to day?
No
Sunday
Tmr is the last day for top8
@bold kettle @sinful crest thanks for the kind words, much appreciated indeed 🙂
Does anyone know if there will be a quick tournament Sunday night?
@muted ore when can we expect to have a normal ping again? it's been 3 days since the update came out and it's not enjoyable playing Top8 with perma 150ping and losses...
150 ping sounds nice.
lol
normal for me :p
id love to have 150 ping
^
150 is only slightly worse than mine so still playable whatsoever
I played on NA for 6 years with 300 ping on average, I’m so happy with the 150ping on Asia though
For top 8 plebs who did not make top 4, will we be able to participate in other tours at the end of the round robin or are we stuck until the tour finishes?
Should be able to. Would be abysmal if you get locked out of tourneys for 1.5 months
ahahahaaaaaaaa
The top 4 is a separate tourney anyways no? This one should end as soon as the games are finished and then you’ll be able to play other stuff and leave the clan etc
yea top 4 is seperate @pale finch @carmine solstice
alright cheers boss
Prize gona be given tonight?
Would guess there’s a delay
Prize for what? Top8? @fathom tiger @daring dune
Of course not
Wg will first be checking to see if anyone cheated, like with the summer tournament, I reckon
So I wouldn't expect prizes to be handed out for at least another week
If you guys are wondering about top8 prizes then here’s the info and I’m assuming the ten days is for what amaunet said to check if people cheated and such
Do we have to stay in the clan we played with for 10 days after tournament ended in order to receive rewards or can we leave
Preferably so, why would you want to leave your amazing clan? 🤔
Cause E7 is where the heart is
Stream schedule for Asia:
Fugit's Blitz: https://youtu.be/3tmrueDb4EE
Wildoneshelper: https://youtu.be/ItuqsCpsAPo
Eternal_sinzan: https://youtu.be/RGcb5ki09iY
xiyangkun: https://live.bilibili.com/879288?src=draw
Eternal_sinzan will be streaming in Japanese and xiyangkun will be streaming in Mandarin.
I will have the reward stream today, so here is the portal link: https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/354/description/
I have also made something special after the final fixture, so do stay behind and enjoy! 😉
Hey, if we are participating in a tournament that’s being streamed and rewards are given for watching, are we allowed to play the tournament and watch the stream on another device for rewards? But like we obviously won’t be watching it but just having it on in the back ground?
@thorn shale#1343 yes, that's perfectly allowed
I've been doing that all season, as streamer 😂
@graceful jetty just to be safe, I wouldn't risk it
But like we obviously won’t be watching it but just having it on in the back ground?
sad reacts only
I've been doing that all season, as streamer 😂
Should have done that to get coins 🤦
Also boosters and certificates for grinding
Tbh, you still support the streamer by doing that, so imo it's all good
I wanted the discount certs mostly, @crisp shore
Thank you Amaunet
sorry jack but imma watch my feast bois
😦
Top 8 players can change name now without losing our rewards right? Surely
Congrats to FEAST for going undefeated! Well done and congrats to HLV, ID & GV for getting into the Top 4. We have seen some great games on Asia and no doubt CATS, BOON, LOW & RN will come back hard in the future and shake the Top 4 up! Well done all the Clans!
Obviously you can change names ;)
Also huge congrats to FEAST, HLV, -ID- & GV for qualifying. Huge commiserations to B00N for losing on a tiebreaker 4 times, but if they won them all in the end, B00N would have been in top 4. Hence, don't be down and keep your heads up high! 🙂
Finally finished
@muted ore when will the maps for top 4 games (blitz cup) be revealed?
I guess when all the top 8 games from all the servers end
They might not even be the same maps since theres like a week difference between each server
Hopefully, wudnt want them coming only a week before the games
as usual from wargaming but hope they can be released soon, like right now.
And i need to know whats the reward for watching top4 tour streaming
Yo anyone need a team tier 8 only
Why would you need to know the reward for watching? Just come and support the teams in top 4, and enjoy the exciting matches they will bring 😉 Rewards don't matter if you really love eSports and the game
The reward for streaming in top 4 is 1 sack of rice 1 bag of cangoods
I hate watching through blitz portal for streams. I rather watch through YouTube
Why would you need to know the reward for watching? Just come and support the teams in top 4, and enjoy the exciting matches they will bring 😉 Rewards don't matter if you really love eSports and the game
@crisp shore well lets be honest, if there weren't rewards on the blitz portal livestreams then theres not an incentive to watch esports. Its like hansel and gretel with breadcrumbs.
what
Your stream schedule for EU:
Amaunet85: https://youtu.be/iUyQ0WdWnzQ
Fugit's Blitz: https://youtu.be/4uHEcTazQ38
Wildoneshelper: https://youtu.be/47L43roAZwk
3very: https://youtu.be/YMK9GKcbF5c
R1B: https://youtu.be/SEIpzpBimuY
3very will have the coin stream tonight. Watch it through the link here: https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/365/description/
Talking points:
- All attention will be concentrated in two fixtures tonight. Both -W1N- vs. EG- and IMM0R vs. RA1D matches will decide the last 2 spots of the top 4 on the EU server.
- If RA1D win the fixture, RA1D and the winner of the fixture -W1N- vs. EG- will be in top 4.
- If IMM0R win the fixture, IMM0R will be in top 4, provided -W1N- win against EG-, otherwise, both -W1N- and EG- will be in top 4 regardless of IMM0R win.
Tonight will be absolutely insane, not gonna lie
agree 100%
@crisp shore well lets be honest, if there weren't rewards on the blitz portal livestreams then theres not an incentive to watch esports. Its like hansel and gretel with breadcrumbs.
@surreal hinge Call me deluded but there are other incentives to watch eSports. Here I list a few:
- Opportunities to learn and improve one team's communication, strategies, rotations etc.
- A break from the unfortunate and agitating battles you just had in the game
- Watching your idols shine in big games
- Easy to access without the need to load up the app (especially when you need to update the game 😉 )
- Exciting, heart-pounding SHORT matches unlike other eSports
- Enjoyable commentaries from all streamers ;)
- Feeling more pumped up in general
I disagree without the rewards, there will be no incentive. I watch WoTB eSports not because of rewards.
Lol, I never understood people who needs rewards to watch something. Blitz is not boring though, I watch other esports and play other major games in the branch like csgo and league of legends and tbh blitz is way more exciting than league of legends, games can go 20 minutes there with next to no action while blitz games are so short so you’re guaranteed to be provided entertainment within about 5 minutes of every match
and up to 7 matches, dont forget that
Yeah, plenty of top level games has been taken to tie breakers as well which makes it so fun to watch, for example LGN vs LOCA, RA1D and EG has all been tie breaker games - I mean I could just be biased since I play myself and watch all games but I don’t think it’s boring
@crisp shore you are completely right on all of those points, but im talking about the general community, i.e the players that dont play in tournaments or just play pub matches. If there was no physical incentive (rewards for watching), these players could care less about watching a stream and would most likely watch droodles or meadsy or martin dogger if they want to learn something instead of sitting in front of a screen for 3 hours.
For me, I agree that the physical rewards are like icing on a cake, because I'm active in comp and that its always nice to see a very intense battle once in a while. But for many other players, like I said, they could care less to watch a stream to get the incentive of "knowledge" instead of watching for something that directly helps them.
W1NSK🔥
Tough match for them. They gonna need all their luck. Definitely watching matches tonight
I think it makes little sense to confuse tournament streams with casual normal videos that teach you how to improve your skill. To be perfectly honest, I don't think the current rewards for watching the stream reward much better than just playing random matches alone, hence we are registering less than 10% of the community watching the streams for coins, and the community was informed about the prizes you could earn from the streams. Not saying WG should increase the prize of watching the streams, but I believe a significant part of the community watches the streams because it is genuinely exciting (and they are featured both in the game and on the website too). (N.B I'm informed there was a reward of tier 10 research certificate for the Asia stream today, but so far the viewership is only half of my other Asia coin stream which supposedly did not have that reward, so that is telling something)
I hope the eSports side of this game can be treated more like the professional side of sports, where we have fans and the incentive is solely to watch your idol/team play in the game, or enjoy the excitement. Incentive to watch tournaments and incentive to be better in the game have different roots, though they occasionally overlap, but you could say the same with the latter incentive about not enough of the latter with different arguments.
However, I do think rewards are needed to persuade people to watch eSports and show support to certain teams, or to gain publicity to the community. Wargaming should also attempt to promote this aspect of the game more. 🙂
I mean this season is great, 2 qualified teams in LGN and loca already followed by eg w1n ra1d imm0r fighting each other for the last 2 spots on the last day - its great. Also funny that the 2 100% account abusing teams are the only ones out of contention, surprise surprise about that am I right?
Don't make me yawn lewl
Good luck for tonights games and big congrats to the already qualified 👍
I watch streams because the matches are interesting.
Some of the rewards are nice tho.
Also funny that the 2 100% account abusing teams are the only ones out of contention, surprise surprise about that am I right?
@pale finch I believe there's only one right response to that;
🥱
(🙃 )
Don't make me yawn lewl
@crisp shore 🥱
Is it midnight now?
The matches start in 30 minutes from now right?
Best of luck for all the clans tonight - just do your best thats all anyone can ask 🙂
pssst go W1N 🤫
Honestly, I love how things aren't yet decided
but I hate the braining I'll have to do in case of ties in points 😂
Good luck to all the teams, kick some booteh!
Okay great. I didn't see any scheduled streams so had to ask and don't wanna miss any of today's games :) @leaden belfry
if you scroll up a little, Wild posted all the stream links =)
Upgrades :D
Toto
Ggs
Gg gl RA1D EG- LGN LOCA (sry w1n)
Sorry -W1N- but congrats to the big 4!
RA1D LGN -EG LOCA congrats on top 4
Im sorry W1N... Gl for the ones on the top 4 and ggs RA1D
Im sorry W1N... Gl for the ones on the top 4 and ggs RA1D
@thorn shale Sry, that win your with 100% player, sry
what a final day! IMMOR wow, what has Kouga been feeding you? EG, WP indeed, W1N, such a shame really played a good tour facing EG at their best on the last day was a bridge too far. Great tour, going right down to the final game between RA1D v IMMOR on the final day! Well played all the clans, proud to have been able to stream you 🙂
Behalf of W1NSK, Gongrats to top 4 !
Make sure we can watch some good games in europe cup !
@thorn shale Sry, that win your with 100% player, sry
@atomic bone What are you saying? Do you know how to write in proper english? So all of us can understand you
Gl in top4 all
these will be spectacular matches
@muted ore hello, could you check dm, thanks
@atomic bone What are you saying? Do you know how to write in proper english? So all of us can understand you
@thorn shale XDDDDDDDD
Kochow
Congrats to LGN, LOCA, EG-, RA1D! Fantastically played
ELEM will win the spring season be ready!!!!!
Ok Silva, will ss that
Lol
Don’t do it Pawel
ok and now on a serious note. The Blitz Europe Cup Qualifiers have ended now, and there will be a tournament with top4 teams, i think called Blitz Europe Cup, with new regulations. as soon as players from top 4 teams receive their tickets to participate in the upcoming tournament from the BECQ, will they be able to swap a team from the one they have received a ticket with, to another one from the top4 to play for another team in the BEC, if it will happen earlier than 2 weeks before the registration for the next tournament closes? and if no, then what punishments will await the team that will try to disobey the restriction, if such even exists?
That’s actually a pretty interesting question. We know that it’s prohibited to take part in a team who didn’t get tickets but as @frigid aurora said - what if a team who qualified with tickets receives a player from another team who qualified with tickets? Are the players / tickets bound to one team or are they free to move between the 4 teams playing the blitz Europe cup?
Round 2 of poaches
New comp td spot?
You can’t even get there cos it’s past the redline?
you realize its behind red line ?
It’s behind the line btw
LOL, EG's watching 👀
@median mason do that
big brain
there's....a lot to be said about that but it is off topic. may i suggest the #blitz-memes channel
Also Mines isn't on the map rotation list
@latent olive thank you 😍
Congrats to LGN, LOCA, EG- and RA1D too!
Huge congrats to top4 EU teams and good luck for the finals! Wp all
And thank you all streamers for great commentating during this long season!
super fun top 8 to watch
MADE_IN_CHINA_2014#3657 was muted
F
Gaseo the rat
neo from matrix
@frigid aurora I dont understand the point of running qualifiers during 2 months if ppl keep changing clans between each stage. That’s just non sense.
A bit like EG team last year offline not being half of the one actually qualified (for other reasons ofc but still non sense at the end)
gaseo matrix goes brrrrrrr
Yeah that was insane🤣
RNG came back with a vengeance the next game....xD
=(=(=(=( @left portal
Streaming schedule for NA?
^^
^^
Gg to everyone who made it to top4 🥑 🥖 🥑
Great fun to watch these games, and a big thanks to the streamers/commentators as well, spectacular job as always, never disappointed
On the RU server, congratulations to 7STAR, GGAME, MERCY and I believe C4 since they have the most match wins in the tiebreaker? (All 3 teams are tied on head-to-head result)
Yea c4 in top4
Poor D030P can't overtake C4 even winning them on the last day
7star and mercy dominate
Actually no, GGAME and 7STAR
cmon wg give us streams owowowow
Ik fugit has pncr rgn
Insane.
Droodles (_V_ vs. GMA): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvge6c8GRSk
Fugit (RGN vs. PNCR): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu9fV_yahe8
Fishy (SHIR0 vs. 7RATS): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOIDk86aLhw
PapaRage (ISHTR vs. -MM): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ndU6DUohc
Our savior
yes I do have the RGN v PNCR game, which is also the reward stream 😱 why is that insane????
It’s an important match.
Because it’s not droodles streaming it.
lol
Yikes
maybe people will get their rewards then
Speed v GMA should be good viewing as well
Whoever wins that will take 2nd in the group
@green plover 😂
Tru tru but in terms of matchups for na blitz cup the pramo Gma match has no significance
ggs to gma void and rgn from ishtr
two new teams in top four
great games that we're seeing, props to all the top 8 clans for putting the time and effort in for these great battles
GGs to everyone on NA, special congrats to GMA and ISHTR for their first ever Top 4 finish!
Who's final tpp4 for na
Thank you @thorn shale
RGN, Speed, GMA, ISHTR
to no torneio
congrats RGN, VOID, GMA and ISHTR for making the Top 4. Unlucky PNCR, 7RATS, MM & SHIRO. Been a real pleasure to stream the games, so thx to all the clans showing us some great games
🍴🍉
Queue epic training montage for November Cup
Epic gamers
Uncharted territory I’m approaching
i cant wait for top 4 @sinful crest
Nice. Well done and gg for all top8 from 4 servers. Now all qualifiers finished wow
@latent olive thanks for streaming yet again
Nice top8 games all around the servers
@latent olive thank you for taking the time to stream games from three of the servers you are great
@narrow meteor @left portal thank you for the kind words much appreciated indeed 🙂
I absolutely love the switch up with top 4 on NA 2 new teams is so cool to see this late into the life of tournaments in blitz
Op streams @latent olive
This the first time GMA was top 4?
This was their first full tier x season so yes
Gg it's amazing to hear some teams broke the monopoly
@muted ore will the players that made top4 be able to participate in like season coin or quick tournaments during the wait for blitz cup in November?
When’s the next tier 8 tournament?
^ asking the real questions
Congrats Speed, ISHTR, and GMA for making top 4. Look forward to our matches in the cup tournament. :))
💯
💯
And who are the top4 for RU? There are 3 teams staying in the forth place
On the RU server, congratulations to 7STAR, GGAME, MERCY and C4
@crisp shore
NA reward steam will end in approx 10 mins - I made sure the time was more than enough for rewards to be gotten, so I hope no one missed out. Im now off to climb into the nearest bed - been fantastic hosting NA tonight, all the best and once again congrats to all those who made the Top 4 across all the servers its been a pleasure to stream you!
Thanks for streaming Fugit
your welcome @dry flint been a pleasure 🙂
@latent olive and @flat goblet thanks for stepping up to the plate for na streaming, you guys were a total blast to watch with great commentary from both of you, definitely rivaling droodles in the commentary department (;
again, thanks for the kind words 🙂 @surreal hinge
^^
Yeah thanks for the streams, especially to you fugit you’re doing the same crazy effort we had Amaunet and Rolling do for us “ back in the days “
Yeah fugit in GMA looks very cool😄
t9 tournys would be awesome
#tourneys-team-search @crystal furnace
t9 tournys would be awesome
@proud holly
I believe you can use tier 9 tanks in tier 10 seasonal coins and QTs. Go ahead man
Thanks for the streams Fugit. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to stream blitz at 3am or maybe even later. I can only imagine actually playing at 3am and not getting anything in return.
^^ fugit goated
@thorn shale t9 only
Yeah thanks for the streams, especially to you fugit you’re doing the same crazy effort we had Amaunet and Rolling do for us “ back in the days “
Tbh I'm really grateful to Fugit especially, but also Wildones, for streaming multiple servers, as I've not been able to manage it this season.
Feels very weird to only cover one server though. Hopefully come Spring Season, I'll be able to get back to streaming all =)
@muted ore will the players that made top4 be able to participate in like season coin or quick tournaments during the wait for blitz cup in November?
@sinful crest Hello. They can.
Thank you 🙏🏽
ok and now on a serious note. The Blitz Europe Cup Qualifiers have ended now, and there will be a tournament with top4 teams, i think called Blitz Europe Cup, with new regulations. as soon as players from top 4 teams receive their tickets to participate in the upcoming tournament from the BECQ, will they be able to swap a team from the one they have received a ticket with, to another one from the top4 to play for another team in the BEC, if it will happen earlier than 2 weeks before the registration for the next tournament closes? and if no, then what punishments will await the team that will try to disobey the restriction, if such even exists?
@muted ore ^ Whoopzie raised this question, could you please answer that too? =) With regards to shifts, it's important to know, I reckon
also; when will the regulations/maps, etc, be posted? I know it's still a few weeks away, but I'd appreciate it if vital information could actually be posted earlier than WG has been doing so far, and it'll allow the teams to train a bit more specifically
@sinful crest too many ^ make Dyno angry 😂
also; when will the regulations/maps, etc, be posted? I know it’s still a few weeks away, but I’d appreciate it if vital information could actually be posted earlier than WG has been doing so far, and it’ll allow the teams to train a bit more specifically
@leaden belfry dyno bot op, this is a very good question I would like an answer to. Top8 information this year was released 3 days before the actual round robin, i feel like it’d be better to at least give the top4 teams a week in advance of which teams you face on the specific maps etc
imo regulations and information should be posted at least two weeks prior to the start of whatever phase they're for. Preferably even longer before that, but two weeks is about the minimum that's acceptable, I think
First opponents are already set but ye maps could be a cool to know too
Ahh yes time for the good old classic “Information 2 days before the tournament”
Is there a live streaming video today
is the camo we are getting new or has it been sold before
@lusty flint i think it’s new, but if they sell it to casual players that’d be 💩
@lusty flint the camo is new, but there’s been hints at a tournament camo being sold during Halloween in a Pantoflee video
Classic
Gg
Camo Esports, this is just a possibility but I wouldn’t put it past Wargaming to do that
Also camo tourney and camo 2017
@leaden belfry Players cannot change teams in Blitz Cup.
A player can participate in the Blitz Cup only as part of the team in which he played in the Blitz Cup qualification.
Detailed regulations will be sent to the teams participating in the Blitz Cup in advance.
Thank you, Sirius
@frigid aurora @pale finch ^
@muted ore Can a player from a team who got places top5-8 in qualifier leave clan before rewards are out?
@vital obsidian no, if they do they won’t receive rewards
ok thanks 👍
@muted ore Can a player from a team who got places top5-8 in qualifier leave clan before rewards are out?
@vital obsidian Hi. A player can leave the clan after the qualification tournament.
okay 👍
Me too can I enter
When will we receive our rewards for top 8?
In 2021 autumn
In 10 working days?
In 2021 autumn
@daring dune such a funny guy i can see
Veri funi
Rewards should come during 10 days after the tourney ended
So today is the first day. Next Friday is the last day
I would rather have Wargaming spend a little bit more time in investigating potential rule violation if there is one. It is worse to hand out rewards to teams who violated the rules than to hand out rewards slightly later than 10 days after the Blitz Cup Preliminaries. That being said, the rewards should not be handed out like 1 month after
Wg said prizes will be handed out in 10 working days after the tournament. So end of next week at the latest.
And what Jack said =)
They gonna investigate, that's why we don't have rewards yet, before teams received rewards at the start and then some violation happened, it was problem
Exactly
Wg can collect their rewards back. Ez
Who want to invit me in is team ?
Wg can collect their rewards back. Ez
@daring dune Well not really, you might have spent the rewards after the rewards have been handed out (some are in the form of gold and credits remember). How can you rescind the reward that you have already spent? (e.g. 0 gold in your account after rewards are handed out 🤔 ) Besides, there is the legal aspect that can be hassle to deal with: ask Fugit on this 😉
Why do they investigate rule violations after the tournament though. If someone actually did then it could’ve affected the results 😂
The thing is, lets say player insults WG staff or he shares account during the tourney, he doesnt deserve pro stuff, but the results of the matches probably wouldnt change... so they can just give the rest but him the rewards
Before all team members received pro stuff and i kinda doubt that the rewards such as camo can be withdrawn.
Also do you think that the investigation for example for rigging the result can be done in 1 week during the tourney?
Where is my @chilly terrace 😦
He left wg, @woven pilot =( check pinned
Sadge
mood
he was good 😭 although I have not spoken much here
Anyone help me :'(
I'm watching live streams but not getting season coins :(
Dont think that they will arrive fast
Wdym bro ???
Watched all 4 streams of the previous professional tournament,,,, didn't receive any coins :(
@urban bough you have to watch them as they’re being live-streamed and you have to watch them through WG portal
Where did you watch them from
Yes I watched them from the portal 😐
Got tank research certificate and boosters but no coins 😐😧
I dont think season coins were offered for these streams
they weren't
^
The streams had counters above them showing exactly what you'd get - coins weren't a part of it
where does wargaming posts his streams? @leaden belfry
Since when was Wargaming the company genderised
Since 10:41 pm cest this evening, evidently
@proper river usually on play day you can find the stream schedule here
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@thick basin Use the #tourneys-team-search channel
pls snipe
Ayo svg
@proper river if wg streams, they generally do so on their own channel and will announce it in one of the announcement channels on here. As for tournaments - there isn't any tournament stream planned until the final stages begin
I just want to see a big map of, well, the map, where your team is spawning vs where the enemy team is spawning. I also would like the ability to change what team is what color in spectator mode because the red/blue is just confusing.
.
Atleast blue/red helps colorblind people
Yes make the map get big when u click on it and instead of pinging the sector just have the thing be "Attention to the map!" Or something and theres a nice pinging symbol of some sort where the person clicked
I have not aimed at a foch cupola in so damn long. Well... why would you when yo can just spam heat at it without even bothering to aim
somody need 1 player to tournament 19 ? tier 10 :?
Hayy good evening is there a live stream in season coin sorry if I ask
No @blissful cradle
Thanks and in rating game do? We have a reward in getting higher rank And what is the technical update is all about sory want some help
you mean the RBM challenge? @blissful cradle
Ahhh I've been ban in rbm and I don't know how to apologize and say sorry
you cant talk in that channel, you can just post your youtube channel but with atleast 1000 subs if u want to participate, ribblestripe will react your message with a ✅ and then you can stream rating battles
I don't know where I been wrong I'm just asking is there a live streaming video today and reward But some guy asking same like me but player replied bad things to him so the guy asked I replied to him ...... Is. The reward. Of watching and streaming is 1 sack of rice and 1 bundle of cangoods
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PepeHands
I don't know where I been wrong I'm just asking is there a live streaming video today and reward But some guy asking same like me but player replied bad things to him so the guy asked I replied to him ...... Is. The reward. Of watching and streaming is 1 sack of rice and 1 bundle of cangoods
@blissful cradle MaxVerstappen already answered that
When will we have draw for top 4 of Blitz Cup? Or it’s as always #1 vs #4 and #2 vs #3 which means LGN vs Ra1d and EG vs Loca?
And which maps gonna be played in the first match? Would be pretty important to know which maps could be trained vs which enemies
Should always have the 1 seed vs the 4 seed, what’s the reward then for performing the best in the round robin
x more days of premium account 😉
Hey I was wondering if WG could bring a tier 6 tournament with monetary prizes to WOTB, you know to add diversity to the tournament scene!
I’d really enjoy that
That’s not particularly poggers
I would honestly not want to see that
We actually had one last year called Money banger tournament for tier 6.
It's a no no
Tier 6 tournaments? You mean CromWell B simulator?
Su100Y !!!!!!!!
@analog osprey you are a beast when you play that tank, you ammo rack them all 🤣
@red vapor congrats, you’ve just earned yourself this weeks worst idea award
@red vapor UNION has entered the chat
i really like tier 3 and 4
Yea my pz 3 and pzb2 pub experience would be hella clutch
Tier 6 tournaments? You mean CromWell B simulator?
lmao exactly, Tier 6 would almost just be Cromwell/Cromwell B(erlin) spam, if not then I doubt tech tree tanks would be used much aside from ARL 44.
Why not just do Tier 1 tournaments.
Yes other tier tournaments are interesting, hope wg can consider them.
t9 tournies
MadGames tournament’s
Wasntthere already a money tourney in tier6 like over a year ago?
When do the top 8 teams get their rewards?
Next 7 business days @wheat kindle
Thnx
We are waiting day by day now. Lol how long did it take to give summer season rewards to players?
Well to be fair wargaming are more then likely going to spend as much time possible reviewing each team and players to make sure no one cheated or broke the EULA in accordance to the tournament, as it’s the biggest server tournament and across all servers it’s 200,000 USD so wargaming want to be bang on with their investigation of each team and so on
@daring dune you've been waiting day by day but have failed to read previous responses to that? Not to mention that time must be going differently for you, as it sounds like you've been waiting for months already. It's been said the rewards will come in 10 business days from the end of the event. We're currently on day 3
Why not just do Tier 1 tournaments.
That would only work with the old tier I's. We need our ms-1's back!
When will we have draw for top 4 of Blitz Cup? Or it’s as always #1 vs #4 and #2 vs #3 which means LGN vs Ra1d and EG vs Loca?
@thorn shale Hello. Team which was placed the first plays against the team which was placed the fourth.
Team which was placed the second plays against the team which was placed the third.
And which maps gonna be played in the first match? Would be pretty important to know which maps could be trained vs which enemies
@hoary ridge Teams will be sent regulations with maps before the tournament.
Hi, Will realistic tournaments be returning? ,thanks
Hi. It is a secret.
You said t6 tourney would be disaster? Remember this year t8? 🤣😂That was pure pain
You will not feel painful in tier8 after wg release a tier7 only tournament
Tier 7 only? You mean Smasher Tournament?
@Spartan617#1343 only tier 9 wouldn't be so bad tho. Not many broken tanks at 9.
Tier 8 is even more pain after they sold 252u second time, and with emil
I miss tier 8
@Spartan617#1343 only tier 9 wouldn't be so bad tho. Not many broken tanks at 9.
@thorn shale T92E1 is not broken at all
Hey @muted ore . If im going to leave my clan before i get top8 rewards do i still will get them?
@thorn shale T92E1 is not broken at all
@scenic thorn
I highly doubt it'll be cancer in tournaments just like sheridan isn't in tier 10s
If we could have a list of banned tanks would be cool.