also, what about VPN users ? there's no way to trace them back right ?
#tourneys-discussion
shrewd surge
frozen schooner
There is a way, but WG won't do this, because we all know who is using VPN and what WG does with CIS players
elder heart
Come on WG. No one is gonna play on both servers for 3 months. Even playing on a single server is giving us a headache.
burnt glacier
++++++++++++
dreamy lake
You must be ashamed of your ideas WG, they are so primitive and senseless, moreover you people are failing to explain how players who existed before the rule has to follow it. Starting all over for the sake of tournaments isn't possible. You spent your time, made a lot of friends, popularity all on this server. Now you have to be a stranger among the new server's playerbase, totally cool!
Congratz WG, I wish I had all the dislike buttons on this world so that i can use it on you.
steel shell
They removed permission, since on each stupid news there was instantly more dislikes than likes lolš
chilly terrace
Re
Team C4 for Mobile Masters
The most CIS team I ve ever seen
@frozen schooner There was tough case, the big part of players couldn't obtain visa and there was no time to find CIS player and wait the results of visa from them.
Considering all discussed things we decided to make this rule a bit less strict: players from other regions will be allowed but not more than 2 such players in one team.
chilly terrace
Considering all discussed things we decided to make this rule a bit less strict:...
dreamy lake
Sounds better than the last notice, thanks for the consideration
slim blade
Well boys we did it.
vital obsidian
Good and fair decision
lunar stirrup
elder heart
Whoopz/Vano/That Chinese guy whos gonna play lets bet
pale finch
uni is in loca now bot @elder heart
strong marsh
proud holly
ooooooo
thorn shale
chinese guy lives in spain @elder heart xd
fathom tiger
Woop woop?
dreamy lake
Its da snek looking around for its prey
vital obsidian
wb whoop
steep prawn
insane
chilly terrace
Guys, don't flood, please.
frozen schooner
All ru-speaking clans (including mine) - well,fair enought but not enough
burnt glacier
š©
fast hareBOT
Akeron#2489 was muted
Warning logged for A158_åøäø#3411. I couldn't DM them.
Ready2BeEd#6620 has been warned.
eternal flume
When I started playing Wotb I lived in Kaliningrad and ofc I registered my acc on EU. I really liked the game and spend so much time in training room or ranked, and after I learned to play and there was at least some āskillā wg tells me that I cannot participate in tournaments against the best tc players. Tells me this 3 days before the start of the tournament. Nice job wg, thank u for genius ānonā political decision.
broken sedge
Is this today lmao
alpine adder
@chilly terrace tournament timing is messed up, it says itās in 40 minutes
silver vapor
@chilly terrace the tournament timing š
crisp shore
Wait I have to stream the games now? Oh horses
alpine adder
yes, get your teams ready weāre fighting in 40 minutes, stream cats vs feast xd
burnt glacier
Cats vs dogs
gray tapir
very funny
wispy raptor
Midnight tournament ....
cedar parrot
Is this a mistake? @chilly terrace
crisp shore
Man I haven't even designed the thumbnail for my stream! Everything is happening so quickly! Nah, gonna do an improvised stream instead. You guys are lucky that I'm at home atm š
thorn shale
Lol everyone is most likely scrambling to get everyone on considering you need to go over strats. It also got the wrong amount of groups.. it is supposed to be 16 groups of 8 the 4 groups of 8...
dim pivot
5v5 leggo
tepid sun
Bold of you to assume we even have 5
alpine adder
Bro my team is ready we got 7 xD
thorn shale
What the blyat
crisp shore
"Wake up you sleepseeker, we are playing in 30 minutes!"
Gonna stream this anyway xD
cedar parrot
That's literally my clan atm because Rexy isn't responding and it's almost Midnight for half my clan@crisp shore
slender harness
Welcome to Asia or should we say eu
alpine adder
We play with 5k ping and 3 second delay at midnight boys. Classic WG way to handle things xd
Oh yes only sgc2 for tours ofc, also teleporting tanks because uprising tour
dim pivot
Lets not forget getting put in sgc2 (thats the Japanese one right?) during tour time :hahayes:
wicked snow
Dw guys even if the games r played the tourney will be reset
thorn shale
Thereās gonna be like 3 clans in Asia for the tour lmao
pgmt feast and cats ggez
crisp shore
New Zealanders be like š
cedar parrot
After what happened to ID last Ascents or some, there's nothing that can't happen
alpine adder
last time this happened ID got like 6000 downvotes for missing tour, Iām waiting to get bombed by those right now.
Their tour was suddenly at midnight and then they started getting a downvote every 5 minutes for missing tour.
crisp shore
*101AD
thorn shale
Ok we should be fine, it looks like wg fixed the timing
wicked snow
This tourney is supposed to start on 29th ?
Also how long does it last
gentle sierra
@wicked snow until the 30th
alpine adder
Okay thatās one thing fixed. But now thereās another bug, the charts are gone. Thereās no battles planned for any clan at all now.
crisp shore
Phew I didn't have to set everything up within like 15 minutes lol
wary garnet
Sup i would like to join a clan who plays tournaments regulary and are good. For now i can play tier 5-6 7-8 tournaments. I have many tank variations. My nick: kikser10
gray tapir
#tourneys-team-search @wary garnet
thick coyote
š¤£
chilly terrace
The tournament start time for ASIA has been fixed. Relevant time will appear in the game soon
thorn shale
aight that scared the potatoes out of me Iāll go back to sleep gnight
cedar parrot
You aren't alone, Half the Asian Pro clans are
alpine adder
Yeah, things are fixed now, thanks For the Timely response and fix.
crisp shore
"I'm sorry to disrupt your sleep, but you can go back and dream about memes now"
cedar parrot
We don't need to lol. Check #blitz-memes @crisp shore
vital obsidian
when are full rules for season tournament released
upbeat iris
Some time today was said by rexy a few times.
vital obsidian
in news are some rules but those do not tell how loopholes prevented this time
slim socket
@chilly terrace does this mean top 12 clans are getting their own avatars?
silver vapor
maybe something similar to Twister 2018 with the vote or something with the support badge, just speculating
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace does this mean top 12 clans are getting their own avatars?
@slim socket
It doesn't. We request avatars from such amounts of clans because we need time to prepare them and we don't who will be a winner
fathom tiger
The top1 gets the avatar?
jade spoke
Top 4 I guess
tropic lotus
Top 3 it was
sinful crest
Facts itās probably the winner of the season
dim pivot
Probably top 4 coz final is in November and it'll probably be custom clan avatar
gentle sierra
Only the team that won in each server last year got an avatar for the people that represented the server at the offline , not top 3 or top 4
atomic bone
@chilly terrace can I transfer my account with this situation to Ru server or itās option will be soon?
near anvil
Thereās a bigger gap than you think between the 3rd best team and the 4th best team
gentle sierra
Those are clan logos , only 7 people in each server have clan avatars , except Ru where there are 14
eternal flume
@chilly terrace can I transfer my account with this situation to Ru server or itās option will be soon?
@atomic bone + same us my
If I canāt play on eu move my acc on ru
tropic lotus
I was mistaken, I mixed it up with the clans getting their own logos
frozen schooner
@chilly terrace can you please provide the list of the countires for each region?
obsidian vine
Yes he will get on top of it right now, full essay for you @frozen schooner
vital obsidian
http://forum.wotblitz.eu/index.php?/topic/44834-definitions-of-countries-included-in-each-region/page__pid__633460#entry633460 Guess this apply
frozen schooner
@vital obsidian Thank you, dearā¤ļø
atomic bone
@chilly terrace and can u say final rules for CIS countries on EU server?
swift turtle
@chilly terrace I play in the team that consist mostly of people from CIS region and Iād like what am I supposed to do, if I want to play this season? Do I have to create a new account on CIS and research 3-4 tierX tanks in a few days?
odd basalt
Nope, you should have done that after you Red the rules
proud holly
wat
spiral thistle
Can we get percentages based matching in platoons so a 60% team isnāt going against a 40%
red vapor
no
spiral thistle
Why tho. They have tiers for a reason an have ratings for a reason but yet all that goes out the window an you can be a 40% but get put up to 50-60% matches in tournaments
gentle sierra
Cause strongest vs weakest seeding in tournaments exists so that the weaker teams are eliminated first
torn oak
Lag is nuts tonight in tourney
obsidian vine
Been fine for me...
proud holly
Not for my side
tranquil vortex
Can someone clarify the second sentence here?
vagrant phoenix
If you have 2 teams or more in your clan, only the highest result from the ascent tournament will be counted towards your clan.
If your team A scores 400, team B scores 300, and team C scores 500, only points from team C will be counted. @tranquil vortex
tranquil vortex
Oh I see, okay. Thanks! I misread it as something else. I thought It was talking about players/teams that would be allowed to join the top 8 if a clan runs multiple.
leaden belfry
@chilly terrace thank you for being lenient. I do feel this is something that needs to be discussed and looked at closer in the future (preferably well before the next big in game tournament), but at least for now, this is something and will hopefully avoid teams having to break up completely.
imo the solution lies in accounts registered on servers before date X (to be determined by wg, but I think taking the date where the tournament started where the country rule was first mentioned would work best) should be the exceptions to the rule. That'll also make it easy for wg to keep track, I reckon.
And the account sharing rule, which includes gifted accounts in the EULA, would cover most of the rest, to avoid players playing for other servers than they're supposed to
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace can I transfer my account with this situation to Ru server or itās option will be soon?
@atomic bone You can't.
@chilly terrace thank you for being lenient. I do feel this is something that needs to be discussed and looked at closer in the future (preferably well before the next big in game tournament), but at least for now, this is something and will hopefully avoid teams having to break up completely.
imo the solution lies in accounts registered on servers before date X (to be determined by wg, but I think taking the date where the tournament started where the country rule was first mentioned would work best) should be the exceptions to the rule. That'll also make it easy for wg to keep track, I reckon.
And the account sharing rule, which includes gifted accounts in the EULA, would cover most of the rest, to avoid players playing for other servers than they're supposed to
@leaden belfry
This rule is unlilkely to be changed. The regional championships must be regional. If it is played on EU, there won't be any teams from RU. The same is about international tournaments.
silver vapor
thank you for being lenient. I do feel this is something that needs to be discussed and looked at closer in the future (preferably well before the next big in game tournament), but at least for now, this is something and will hopefully avoid teams having to break up completely.
imo the solution lies in accounts registered on servers before date X (to be determined by wg, but I think taking the date where the tournament started where the country rule was first mentioned would work best) should be the exceptions to the rule. That'll also make it easy for wg to keep track, I reckon.
And the account sharing rule, which includes gifted accounts in the EULA, would cover most of the rest, to avoid players playing for other servers than they're supposed to
@leaden belfry I'm not sure that will work. let's say for example Wargaming did allow accounts from servers that are created before a certain date to join tours regardless of their current residence, I could see the potential of idle accounts that fit the criteria being sold around, and there could be legit reasons that the account owners could use to justify that they stopped playing for a while, then played from another region with that account, with another device, ip .etc.
dim pivot
Tru
leaden belfry
Then you add an extra requirement of the account having to have X amount of battles and have an active tournament history on their server. That at least filters out the accounts from years ago that have hardly been used - and keeps non competitive accounts from suddenly becoming competitive
This rule is unlilkely to be changed. The regional championships must be regional. If it is played on EU, there won't be any teams from RU. The same is about international tournaments.
at this stage I'm not looking for it to be changed - I don't disagree with the rule itself. I'm just hoping that some exceptions will be allowed, just like how Hong Kong players can play on Asia, and Asia players from China regions can go to offline for Asia server because the China server didn't exist when they made their accounts.
It's a case by case thing and might take some time to determine who fits the bill for the exceptions, but I think that'd be the most fair way to go about it, when looking at accounts as old and as competitive as Whoopz, to use him as an example again
forest matrix
What about keeping it simple? Btw how many players are we talking about? 5/10? I think would be better now that everyone is aware to stand to its region at least when it comes to comp matters rather than supporting a rocket science algorithm to determine acceptable exceptions and solve all the abuse that may arise
leaden belfry
In that case wg should allow these players to move servers, imo. But that's less fair, as these players have build their whole Blitz life on the servers they're at now, including clans, life long friends and all of it
burnt glacier
@leaden belfry why you are not person who is doing rules for tournaments...In my case I have 4 players from CIS 3 of them from 2017 and me from 2014.
leaden belfry
In 2017, the rule first appeared, so according to my own preposition with the date, I'm not sure if your players would qualify for what I wrote. But you definitely would
I honestly would love to help wg look at stuff like this -before- stuff is announced, but I don't know if wg would be open to things like that, because like in this case, my possible solution does complicate things for them
thick coyote
@leaden belfry Amaunet, generally we should be able to move servers , what if i am gonna migrate to other country and my acc is on asia ? hella ping and wg does not allow to transfer aaccs
leaden belfry
Support does allow some exceptions for migration if you move across the world. But it's not simply changing a server setting. Migrating account means the account has to be made from scratch on the other server. Wg had to put in everything manually
That's why they don't generally let people do so, and if support ever does agree for whatever reason, you can bet your bum you can never move back
burnt glacier
Well if we talk about players who migrate between servers...Often they r using some rest accounts,not themselves,so that mean that WG can check sharing and ban them. That is simple way to stop such accident when teams on europe consist from players of CIS region
silver vapor
I think I do agree with wargaming's approach, it saves a lot of time and it prevents CIS main core teams from existing on EU servers, and vice versa, but still allows individuals to play on another server. I believe it's a good middle ground. would love to see the full rules be applied for offlines (I think this only applies to this specific tournament so far)
atomic bone
@chilly terrace and can u say final rules for CIS countries on EU server?
@atomic bone
leaden belfry
@atomic bone Rexy said that two players per team are allowed to be from a country not officially belonging to their region
While taking the sharing of accounts and all of those EULA rules into account, of course
thick coyote
Just in fact, why we even have this separate server thing ? Look at Codm and pubgm , u dont need to grind agaiin from 0 if u want to move to another server , i cant transfer my acc and have to restart from 0 , i have to play with more than 300 ping all the time on asia , eu gives me good ping but i have to leave my account and start from 0 š , @leaden belfry i understand wg has potato servers , in codm there is several servers but u can fly across any server , how bout that?
leaden belfry
@thick coyote because ping. Creating one server only would great massive advantage for some and massive disadvantage for others
Not to mention that the hamster would probably die from it
I think that'd involve changing the framework of how accounts work - and probably means you would never be able to make an account on another server using the same email, because it'd be one database. Filtering all of that out would require a ton of work, not to mention the issue of money spend on accounts across servers, as wg has always worked with these separate servers for blitz
Anyhow, we're drifting away from the tournament stuff now
I really do hope wg will revisit the exceptions part
atomic bone
@atomic bone Rexy said that two players per team are allowed to be from a country not officially belonging to their region
@leaden belfry thx
velvet dome
@chilly terrace me and my team, every single player lagged at important moments in the game (ie when we pushed, when we focused fire) and now we have lost 3 games in a row because of it. Please dont give me the excuse that it was our problem. We have a stream that we can pm you to check the authenticity of our claims.
alpine adder
Bro, obviously your fault. You didnāt pay them enough.
On a serious note, heās absolutely correct. We had the exact same situation, we didnāt lose but tanks are teleporting and rubber banding everywhere. This is the sorry state of your servers in a small tournament. What if itās like this in profs, whoās responsible? @chilly terrace
velvet dome
This is the first game. At the 1.40 mark, when we pushed, rubber banding for ALL our players, from Australia to Mauritius. And it lasted the entire time we were brawling till the point when the enemy had an advantage, then clear as crystal.
For 3 games, in a death match tour. We get this absolutely worse hand possible to play.
alpine adder
We can post our replays too if you want, I donāt know if anyone recorded to be able to show it. But there was definitely a lot of rubber banding from 4 of our players (can see them complaining in game chat). We won yes, but this is completely unacceptable in tours. And with how useless the support team is on this issue Iām pretty sure if a team loses due to this issue in profs theyāll be given no compensation.
burnt glacier
1 day of premium XD
cedar hatch
some wiki info btw
broken sedge
Nice server
alpine adder
Very nice server, beautiful lag. Awesome teleportation.
silver vapor
just git gud
cedar hatch
@chilly terrace image from official WIKI website.
-Firstly -> can't see Ukraine in CIS list on map.
-Secondly -> open WIKI. All info is fully represented there. Ukraine ended up participation some years ago btw.
last stratus
@gentle sierra I agree
thorn shale
@crisp shore imagine putting your stream description full of feast bias then feast losing to cats in second round kekw
burnt glacier
@leaden belfry So it will be fair if such rule will work only on players whose accounts was registered after accepting this rule
leaden belfry
@burnt glacier that's why I suggested the start of the first tournament that mentioned the rule as a date. I think that'd be fairest. But it'd be up to wg, and they have to agree to make exceptions at all first š¬š š
gentle sierra
@last stratus aight fam
thorn shale
Smh the whole stream is biased to feast even when feast is losing
crisp shore
@crisp shore imagine putting your stream description full of feast bias then feast losing to cats in second round kekw
@thorn shale Well following FEAST is already a bias, so are you expecting me to slate FEAST in the description lol?
P.S.: I think my stream has lagged at certain points as well, and I'm not sure if it's because of my side
burnt glacier
Meh...They will not agree with it if they think by now that 2 players are enough and don't want to look on real situation with accounts from CIS region. I mean if idea just don't allow CIS team be based part of TOP-8(TOP-4) teams then checking of sharing accounts would be enough. Just imagine how much time player will spend on creating new account with 3-4 tier 10 and team with it. And remember how much teams with CIS players it was before. More then 2 it wasn't. So I can't understand logic of this rule, if it wasn't any accidents before.
dim pivot
@thorn shale lmao why r u getting so salty abt it? Chill dude, we get it u won, mistakes happen from streamers
Atleast say it in a constructive manner instead of going smh
By mistakes i mean the 3-0 on the screen
graceful jetty
For a clan that prides itself on memeing and not taking stuff seriously, you always find them in your face and talking smack when they win
thorn shale
Well you shouldnāt be saying āoops he isolated himself badā āterrible strat by catsā etc etc when heās clearly moving to a better position or the strat is actually working and literally denying the fact that feast is losing or has lost already till the point their last tank dies, be a bit more passive in gameplay commentary pls
@dim pivot Iām not being salty Iām going at him cos his whole stream was him sucking up to feast
leaden belfry
@chilly terrace you said they'd be posted yesterday, but the regulations haven't been posted on the forum yet š¬ will they be made public today? =)
As for the rest of you - play nice
crisp shore
I did praise CATS for winning that 2nd game against FEAST. They did thoroughly deserve to win there and I did say it on the stream.
leaden belfry
@burnt glacier I think the exception they've made now is only meant as temporary. It's not a working permanent solution
burnt glacier
@leaden belfry hope so,that they are following this rule only cause of corona and as result impossibility of doing offline part
vivid glen
lol imagine feeling so insecure and having to tag a streamer and shove it in their face like "ooh we won guys!" obviously everyone expects feast to win, they have been winning on asia for so many years. chill out dude ur not even in cats.
leaden belfry
I know last year Whoopz wasn't allowed to go to Minsk for the same reason, and they didn't make an exception then >.> so this is a start
silver vapor
lol imagine feeling so insecure and having to tag a streamer and shove it in their face like "ooh we won guys!" obviously everyone expects feast to win, they have been winning on asia for so many years. chill out dude ur not even in cats.
@vivid glen lmao
thorn shale
here let me rephrase
I couldnāt care less whoever won and for the record, @vivid glen, Iām not salty or even mad, itās just that this guy is so biased to the point where itās kinda unbelievable, I understand rooting for the team, but if you go watch his stream, heās either dissing the strats CATS does or dissing the moves made by their players 80% of the time
burnt glacier
Mhm...I think they decided to follow this rule earlier If we talk about offline part...
dapper tiger
Who's keys? Not even in CATS
vivid glen
not salty or mad kap.
the stream was alright, i really didnt feel any bias. i think ur just overreacting, the same things are said of many other clans in previous streams too, go check it out. i think the commentary was pretty good.
dim pivot
here let me rephrase
I couldnāt care less whoever won and for the record, @vivid glen, Iām not salty or even mad, itās just that this guy is so biased to the point where itās kinda unbelievable, I understand rooting for the team, but if you go watch his stream, heās either dissing the strats CATS does or dissing the moves made by their players 80% of the time
@thorn shale thats fair but like i said the way u said it first is probably too aggressive and u come off salty
thorn shale
Why did Asia not have 16 groups in the group stage
alpine adder
Okay I just read this, first of all Iām sorry to the streamer and feast, I donāt support any of the toxicity or accusations being thrown around and just to be absolutely clear, that guy was not from CATS. That was solely his opinion.
@thorn shale not enough teams.
crisp shore
Okay I just read this, first of all Iām sorry to the streamer and feast, I donāt support any of the toxicity or accusations being thrown around and just to be absolutely clear, that guy was not from CATS. That was solely his opinion.
@alpine adder Hi there, you do not need to apologise totally. Keys somehow made some valid points which I will take seriously, and I will try to tone down my aggression for my stream tomorrow. However, you guys still played really well, especially the second game on New Bay. I wish you guys all the best for tomorrow š
thorn shale
@alpine adder wait so if we have 70 something teams will there be 16 groups
dapper tiger
There are literally only ever 2000 people online. Aint likely for even 20 teams to show up
alpine adder
@alpine adder Hi there, you do not need to apologise totally. Keys somehow made some valid points which I will take seriously, and I will try to tone down my aggression for my stream tomorrow. However, you guys still played really well, especially the second game on New Bay. I wish you guys all the best for tomorrow š
@crisp shore
Thanks mate, Iām just glad we were on there for people to watch and were able to put up a good show, looking forward to to tomorrow.
@thorn shale Nah itās set to just have 8 teams per group because they know Asia wonāt get that many teams. Iām surprised there were even 38 to begin with.
silver vapor
Asia's tour activity is so bad tbh. FEAST is like the only team pumping out 2 touch teams for the last 4 seasons or so
We just need to clean up the choking issues den we would win all of our games today. ggs tho
crisp shore
Iām surprised there were even 38 to begin with.
True
Asia's tour activity is so bad tbh. FEAST is like the only team pumping out 2 touch teams for the last 4 seasons or so
We just need to clean up the choking issues den we would win all of our games today. ggs tho
@silver vapor Don't choke with an IS-4 like that on Canal again huehuehue š¤£
alpine adder
The canal rounds were just hilarious in VC, the last kill I got was on maddox like 10 ft in the air, i was surprised that even hit, and i expect the same server quality in prof lmao
silver vapor
Don't choke with an IS-4 like that on Canal again huehuehue š¤£
@crisp shore that was totally my fault and not the server (or is it?)
crisp shore
@crisp shore that was totally my fault and not the server (or is it?)
@silver vapor Well I was lagging on stream so yes it's the server š
ripe quiver
!mute @alpine adder
vivid glen
just remove uprising during tours wg ur servers cant handle it
dreamy lake
as if the servers can handle everything else :risitas:
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace me and my team, every single player lagged at important moments in the game (ie when we pushed, when we focused fire) and now we have lost 3 games in a row because of it. Please dont give me the excuse that it was our problem. We have a stream that we can pm you to check the authenticity of our claims.
@velvet dome @alpine adder Please, send you reports to the rigth place. I mean the support.
robust comet
Well we have been complaining about servers for a long time but WG be like fix your internet.
Like 10 players out of 14 are lagging and they will still be like fix your internet not our server problem....No wonder players don't play your game and move to Pubg or Codm
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace image from official WIKI website.
-Firstly -> can't see Ukraine in CIS list on map.
-Secondly -> open WIKI. All info is fully represented there. Ukraine ended up participation some years ago btw.
@cedar hatch Check out the list which is used by us. http://forum.wotblitz.eu/index.php?/topic/44834-definitions-of-countries-included-in-each-region/
alpine adder
@chilly terrace No use, they donāt do anything about it. Our issue is no longer with the server. The complaint is that something should be done about tournaments until this lag is fixed or some other solution is found. We might not have much to complain about today but there certainly are clans who lost today solely due to the servers performance and this will continue into ascent and Prof at this rate. This is definitely a tournaments issue at this point too.
cedar parrot
yes, AI losing to TEA..... never saw that one coming
crisp shore
The canal rounds were just hilarious in VC, the last kill I got was on maddox like 10 ft in the air, i was surprised that even hit, and i expect the same server quality in prof lmao
@alpine adder No wonder why you guys are communicating in the game š
ripe quiver
This is a good example
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace you said they'd be posted yesterday, but the regulations haven't been posted on the forum yet š¬ will they be made public today? =)
@leaden belfry
I said about "Prove your skill!" tournament. It doesn't have regulations on forum. The qualifiers regulations will be posted later.
silver vapor
neh I shouldn't be blaming the server when I clearly bleed so much even under lag š was just a bit disoriented in whatever we were doing in that end game
alpine adder
I mean thatās fine and all but again the issue is that itās not getting better, sooner or later itāll cause a defeat that really shouldnāt have happened. And what if you or we are on the losing team then :/
crisp shore
neh I shouldn't be blaming the server when I clearly bleed so much even under lag š was just a bit disoriented in whatever we were doing in that end game
@silver vapor You do have a lot of guts trying to spot using an IS-4 there š
chilly terrace
I mean thatās fine and all but again the issue is that itās not getting better, sooner or later itāll cause a defeat that really shouldnāt have happened. And what if you or we are on the losing team then :/
@alpine adder
Have you sent any ticket to the support?
vital obsidian
will the qualifying tournament rules include something which prevent players from changing clan just before the tour start or in the last part of āprove skillā
vivid glen
just run a pingplotter 5head all ur problems will b solved like they have been for 1 year 5head
leaden belfry
I said about "Prove your skill!" tournament. It doesn't have regulations on forum. The qualifiers regulations will be posted later.
Ah sorry, then I misunderstood that. I thought there would be regulations for that too
analog osprey
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cedar hatch
Bruh those list is from 2k17. Old information. Lol, those list makes no sence then. Times change -> game changes. Everything changes. But 1 company still continues using and forcing old information š¤
chilly terrace
Bruh those list is from 2k17. Old information. Lol, those list makes no sence then. Times change -> game changes. Everything changes. But 1 company still continues using and forcing old information š¤
@cedar hatch This list doesn't separate any countries based on political or any other context. It was created based on information which server the biggest part of country players play.
cedar hatch
@cedar hatch This list doesn't separate any countries based on political or any other context. It was created based on information which server the biggest part of country players play.
@chilly terrace so according to this logic if ANY NA or Asia country had 60% or more % of its players on EU or CIS server so this country will be considered as EU or CIS?
alpine adder
@alpine adder
Have you sent any ticket to the support?
@chilly terrace I believe me and many others have sent tickets regarding the recent server issues such as teleportation and rubber banding. Despite the server restarts, thereās been not much improvement. :/
slender harness
This is a good example
@ripe quiver I finally experienced mad games tournament. Epic
vital obsidian
There are no rewards shown for "prove skill" (only max reward)
thorn shale
Hello
bronze girder
@gentle sierra i agree man, gosh u so smart
last stratus
@bronze girder I agree that you agree with @gentle sierra
jade spoke
EU role color is ugly
atomic tartan
oh yea we need uprising tournaments. if you want a special, once in a while live stream spectacle this would definitely be it
bronze girder
you'll solve it one day WG specialists, I have faith
burnt glacier
True. WG can't fix it for 2 months since beginning of July
crisp shore
I heard that there are more cups in the group stage than the final stage?
thorn shale
Yes because of the insane amount of ascents, this format allows someone to make a mistake and not get tickets yet still get top 8 which I like. This way if you miss one ascent your still fine most likely
crisp shore
Huh then what's the point of a final stage?? That won't make sense at all because the final stage is supposed to reward clans which finish 1st there as there are fewer clans that can do this, while you have more clans for no. 1 spot for the group stage. The prize pool doesn't match as well. It is easier to finish 1st in the group stage than in the final stage. Is this a bug?
thorn shale
No itās not. The prize pool never goes higher and the point of the final stage is for teams that qualified to get extra cups so they can advance further into the leaderboard. The point of this system is that there is no one team that gets a boost. You have to fight and play everyday because it will be close as to who gets top 8. Only the most deserving who consistently get high in tournaments will qualify l.
crisp shore
Yes but then finishing first in the final stage would result in half the cups than finishing first in the group stage, which is totally unreasonable, given there are likely less than half the clans finishing first in the final stage than in the group stage, when the final stage is meant to be the bigger stage than the group stage, and where most of the coverage from streaming come from. Wargaming has not announced any cups for the group stage but the final stage, and yet you earn more cups in group stage than the final stage, which is simply unreasonable, and should have been mentioned in the News as well -- it feels like a scam in this way.
Even if there are no cups for group stage, you still have to fight and play every day because you need to qualify from the group stage. Then, the win rate seeding issue sets in for the group stage, where you have groups that are filled with good CW teams, and groups that are filled with less good CW teams, as seen in some groups for the EU server tonight.
In the end, I'm happy Wargaming tried to make finishing 1st-4th in the group stage more important, but getting more cups by finishing 1st in the group stage than finishing 1st in the final stage, and even by 2 times of the amount, makes little sense at all, when final stage is primed to be the most competitive and the most rewarding, and fewer clans able to reach a high stage.
frigid aurora
@chilly terrace please fix crashes of game client (the game freezes on 1 slide and you have to restart it), because today our teammates due to this technical issue crashed 2 times and that could have costed us some games. All users across all mobile platforms right now experience this problem, same as ping drops and packet loss spikes, not only us, so itās not problems with devices or internet connection
half urchin
there still arent posted any regulations, are they?
crisp shore
Well NA has posted the prize pool (and number of cups) for the group stage, which is very questionable in my opinion
In my opinion, a more reasonable cup allocation will be that the 4th place earn slightly more cups than finishing 1st place in the group. In a scenario where all 256 teams participate, the system creates 8 groups and each group results in 1 winner there. Then, the next day the system creates at most 2 groups, so theoretically all the group winners should advance to the top 4 of the group on the second day, which means the 4th place should earn cups similar to the group winner on the 1st day. However, since the final stage is going to be win rate seeded again, group winners can meet one another at an earlier stage, so in my opinion finishing 4th should result in more cups than 1st in group stage. After that, finishing 3rd, 2nd and 1st should give you an increase skewed more to an exponential increase rather than a linear increase in cups, though not to either of the two extremes. In this way, it gives some significance on finishing 1st on the final stage, and to be honest the system Wargaming is trying to implement sadly does not fulfill this significance.
Also, since matches are Bo3, having a tiebreaker should alter the number of cups that both teams should earn, since the team does more likely show a similar skill level than a result without a tiebreaker.
thorn shale
mucho texto
severe stream
The server is lagging before the tournament is starting, have a bad feeling about this
graceful jetty
They changed the system from that cause people complained about how hard it was for a good team to make top 8 if they had a couple bad games and got knocked out before the final stage.
I haven't seen the cup reward allocations but if what ur saying is true and theres less cups awarded for final stage then it makes sense cause it's just a decent extra for good teams but doesnt completely screw over a team that has top 8 potential but had a bad round @crisp shore
slim token
spectate not working again?
red vapor
nice server lag during the tournament
tropic lotus
^
eager aurora
@chilly terrace Wondering Yukon supremacy points suppose to be 5/tick considering it's a 4 caps map? Since it will be in the map pool soon, will this be the case for tournament?
alpine adder
Also how will the double elimination mode work on Asia, thereās only 5 teams in the group? Does the losing team in the first round just get knocked out without any more matches?
silver vapor
Also how will the double elimination mode work on Asia, thereās only 5 teams in the group? Does the losing team in the first round just get knocked out without any more matches?
@alpine adder no they just get bumped down to lower bracket to fight the next team that gets dropped from upper bracket.
fast hareBOT
MOE#4654 was banned
obsidian vine
Rip my mans Moe
thorn shale
F for Moe
alpine adder
But like, 3 teams are in round 2, two teams in round 1. The loser of the first round goes down to (where?) in the lower bracket , but then there will be two matches in round two and the losers of both go down to lower bracket to fight each other, so who does the loser of the first round fight in the lower bracket?
Yes I very much English Ik
tropic lotus
@chilly terrace When can we expect our monetary prizes from Summer Season to arrive?
thorn shale
The team that loses from the feast game will play the loser of cats game. They will play in the quarterfinals. The team that loses from the -RN- game will get a free pass to the semi finals I think. Then the winner of the loser of the feast and cats game will play the -RN- loser in the semi finals.
obsidian vine
Why does Asia have so little teams....
surreal hinge
Why does Asia have so little teams....
@obsidian vine fr tho instant semifinals
But its because asia has the smallest playerbase in comparison to other blitz servers (na is second smallest), and the number of comp/active tourney players therefore are less
obsidian vine
Well NA is pretty big compared to Asia definitely 3 time bigger comp scene
silver vapor
Why does Asia have so little teams....
@obsidian vine idek when feast took like 2/10 spots in the final stage kekw
surreal hinge
Alright wargaming explain this. SURG3 lost to Quake, the GMA team, 3-0 and get a pass to the semifinals??? And nor PNCR or the GMA team that beat SURG3 don't get a pass even though they have better stats overall on each team AND Quake beat the SURG3 team???
Also, why can there be multiple teams from one clan when its a championship tournament season? It's not because GMA put in 2 teams for the championship, good for them. But it's ridiculous that now, GMA has the chance to grab both 1st and 2nd place prizes for their players, which isnt that fair in terms of prize distribution. And of course, im using them as an example to demonstrate my point.
The same thing happened in the summer season championship as well. But that time, it had monetary rewards. What wouldve been the backup plan if a situation happened that one clan registered 2 teams for that tournament series and won both 1st and 2nd place prizes?
I feel like one tournament team per clan is fair enough. If you have more than 9 players willing to play, choose the best and make the best team you can. That's called competitiveness.
civic glacier
I mean a team can play with a different clan tag but it doesnāt make a difference what they do
untold tinsel
@obsidian vine imagine if we made an asia team for one season
obsidian vine
@untold tinsel would be too easy
untold tinsel
Lmao
leaden belfry
there still arent posted any regulations, are they?
@half urchin I misunderstood that too. The prove your skill part of the season apparently doesn't have regulations š¤·āāļø
silver vapor
@chilly terrace how should I report the issue when even I send a bundle of replays to support and all they told me that "from our data there's no issue"?
Idk anything about how wargaming works but this evading responsibility needs to stop. if there's a ticket sent with actual evidence, there should be more investigation than a "we checked our logs".
carmine solstice
Looking at the rewards for tonightās tour, itās pretty disappointing. 5-8th place gets 272k creds each if 9 people play, and 194 gold. I could play 1 quick tourney in tier x tonight instead and get 500k credits and in 4 days Iāll have that gold from ads. Forget the fact that itās somewhat difficult to get into the finals tonight, purely based on the time weāve spent and will spent playing the damn things, our rewards even for 5-8th should be like 2 million each. I can guarantee tonight Iāll spend more than 300k credits firing pramo with provisions and consumables over several games. Doesnāt even cover costs if we come 5-8....
thorn shale
@carmine solstice almost like this is a warmup tournament for the massive tournament coming up with massive massive rewards.....
topaz charm
"massive" as in 600k credits and 300 gold each? š
as quite frankly I wouldn't get my hopes up in terms of tournaments.
sinful crest
Alright wargaming explain this. SURG3 lost to Quake, the GMA team, 3-0 and get a pass to the semifinals??? And nor PNCR or the GMA team that beat SURG3 don't get a pass even though they have better stats overall on each team AND Quake beat the SURG3 team???
@surreal hinge i believe the reason mightāve been since surge has a 65 percent avg WR that meansāstrongestā to āweakestā in terms of seeding. Quake only has 59-60 wr avg, I do agree itās dumb how a team that got 3-0d gets a Bi to the semi finalsš
carmine solstice
@carmine solstice almost like this is a warmup tournament for the massive tournament coming up with massive massive rewards.....
@thorn shale mate come off it. Itās less than quick tourney rewards
alpine adder
Itās named the āoff season championshipā not the āautumn season warmupā, itās basically the largest mixed control mode tournament in the game and has less rewards than a normal QT or even half an hour of grinding. Itās just hilariously bad.
crisp shore
Off-season Championship sounds like it is not as important as Quick Tournaments, or is it? š¤ š¤
alpine adder
How not, QTs happen multiple times a week. This championship is once in a year and is clan based, plus multiple days. Itās definitely a lot more Important than āquick tournamentsā unless the was sarcasm in which case yes
crisp shore
Oh dear have I made too much sarcasm such that some sarcasm doesn't sound like sarcasm
vivid glen
you'll solve it one day WG specialists, I have faith
@bronze girder just run a pingplotter and all your problems will be solved!
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace please fix crashes of game client (the game freezes on 1 slide and you have to restart it), because today our teammates due to this technical issue crashed 2 times and that could have costed us some games. All users across all mobile platforms right now experience this problem, same as ping drops and packet loss spikes, not only us, so itās not problems with devices or internet connection
@frigid aurora Please, send the technical issues to the right place.
@chilly terrace Wondering Yukon supremacy points suppose to be 5/tick considering it's a 4 caps map? Since it will be in the map pool soon, will this be the case for tournament?
@eager aurora Maps in tournaments are the same as in random. So the rules for the map will be the same
@half urchin I misunderstood that too. The prove your skill part of the season apparently doesn't have regulations š¤·āāļø
@leaden belfry All necessary things can be read in in-game regulations
topaz charm
@chilly terrace there are no rules in your in-game regulations of the "Prove your skill" tournament. There is only information of when it begins and how the battles are played but no rules or regulations.
Which means that all necessary "things" are not in the in-game "regulations".
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace there are no rules in your in-game regulations of the "Prove your skill" tournament. There is only information of when it begins and how the battles are played but no rules or regulations.
Which means that all necessary "things" are not in the in-game "regulations".
@topaz charm
Which rules do you want to know that you can't find there?
topaz charm
@chilly terrace
I'd want to have an easy place to find the tournament rules, such as prohibiting the account sharing and the maximum of 2 players from other server regions (these 2 are just examples as there obviously is more rules related to tournaments).
Granted most tournament teams and players do know these since most are here in the discord server or on the forums, but it would be good if there was an extra button to see all the rules in the in-game description. Yes it may be challenging to make but it would be more informative to us that play the tournaments. This would result in less tournament rule violations as the rules would be easy to find in-game.
Edit:
ps. much like the info you've put to the latter part of the description about prices, same could be done to the rules. That'd be great!
Sincerely
-G
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace
I'd want to have an easy place to find the tournament rules, such as prohibiting the account sharing and the maximum of 2 players from other server regions (these 2 are just examples as there obviously is more rules related to tournaments).
Granted most tournament teams and players do know these since most are here in the discord server or on the forums, but it would be good if there was an extra button to see all the rules in the in-game description. Yes it may be challenging to make but it would be more informative to us that play the tournaments. This would result in less tournament rule violations as the rules would be easy to find in-game.
Sincerely
-G
@topaz charm
- Account sharing is prohibited by the EULA. It's not tournament regulations
- 2 players from other region is rule from Blitz Cup qualifiers, not from prove your skill tournament
topaz charm
Well as you can certainly see I have no idea what are the tournament rules just by looking at my text.
So most likely I am not the only one that is clueless š¬ š
stable creek
Hmm... this is my first time in Tournaments of Tier 7-8
crisp shore
Will there be no awards in eu in prove skills? The tab is empty
Yes you mortals š
alpine adder
Well there you go, it happened. Our 1-1 match against RN the server lag said hi. 2000+ Ping and teleporting tanks. But the support and the staff here will say āitās on your sideā
Itās incredibly pathetic how much they just deny any fault and let things go unchecked. I hope this is fixed in the professional tournaments because so far itās a horrible joke. The tournaments in the game are decided on the basis of lag at this point.
No hate or offense to the winning teams, itās all well deserved to them. But WG needs to do something.
odd basalt
just cap and youll win, no one will hit each other anyways
crisp shore
That cap on B on Alpenstadt though š¤
alpine adder
@crisp shore we were flying about on our screens :(
We partially lost the match on Alpen because we missed a reset, the shot bounced off a vickers of all things xd, but that was a good play by RN to have so many tanks there and then block a push at C with 50bs.
On desert though. No disrespect to RN, I know theyāre very good players, but I solely blame the lag, canāt hit when youāre teleporting sadly
crisp shore
@crisp shore we were flying about on our screens :(
@alpine adder I blame Typhoon Maysak for that
mystic hill
Hey everyone, is it possible to dismiss off-season tournament championships after your participation has ended?
alpine adder
Nope, not until it ends.
mystic hill
Ok
unborn tartan
Nice, all the best teams missing from today's QT
carmine solstice
Yes even tho half of those teams couldāve earned more rewards in QT but logic
alpine adder
oof
harsh ember
@carmine solstice so you want 1 mil creds for getting knocked out after playing 1-2 tours
carmine solstice
@harsh ember If u understood the process which obviously you donāt, you would understand the point. No. Itās not just 2 tours. It was 4 tours just yesterday. Plus 2 minimum tonight. Thats 6. Plus all the time waiting between games and the fact itās not easy to get to the final stage. So yes. I think it should out earn a 2 hour QT. Any other stupid questions?
dusty lotus
Hello , we played off season tour yesterday and lost offcource so today there is no game for us.
We planned too do t6 and t8 tour today but we cant cus we are still in de off season tour somehow.
Anybody got an idea if we can fix this?
Tanks!!
harsh ember
Winning the group stage gives you triple the amount of credits that winning a normal 4th tour quick tourney does. Given that youāve moved on to the final stage you then get at least double the amount of credits you earn in a quick tournament on top of some gold. If your clan finds it difficult to move out of the group stage then maybe you should stick to qts huh?
But if youāre talking about placing 5-8, which gives you around 2.4 million credits (less than a quick tournament), you get 5-8 for simply registering and then getting knocked out. What do you want next, a participation trophy in quick tourneys? Maybe WG should add them for your ultra competitive server. And no, no more stupid questions.
surreal hinge
@harsh ember love the new ign
tropic lotus
O_o
livid matrix
Hey guys
thorn shale
Hey Can You Guys Bring Up State Tournament Like Where We Get To See Which Clan Is Which States Champion And Than the best of best clan from each state gets to play for championship of USA
crisp shore
I think Blitz Cup is exactly what you are saying? In fact, the entire Autumn Season is region-based.
proud holly
I doubt any clans have all of their players in only one state
thorn shale
No itās whole NA I am talking about state where we see who is best clan for Which state that my clan was best FOR New York we get to whole USA champion say that we face Florida in round of 50 and we get knocked out Any they got to next round @crisp shore @proud holly it donāt matter you can play for which ever stats u want our clan just have to salect which state we play for
crisp shore
Do we have big enough player base for that? š¤
flat goblet
I have not seen any clans or teams be comprised of playera from one state only
thorn shale
@flat goblet well if this update does come its gonna be biggest update if they actuly now how to put that update I seen in others games and itās actuly fun like theirs gonna be Map of whole USA Map or the whole NA Region. IDK NOW man but I think itās definitely gonna be real good update @crisp shore
proud holly
You don't know how your idea works yet you try to push it forward anyways thinking that the developers will work just to satisfy your confinements.
crisp shore
I will like to see something like that but it requires a lot more people playing in the US in the first place. I doubt that will be feasible in the short term, when there are a lot of things in tier 10 CW that need to be polished first.
thorn shale
@crisp shore I cant make this update happen but wargaming has probably over 10000 employee they can definitely pull out something together I am sure NA Server has enough player it donāt have to have enough player if 1 state donāt have enough player they could get placed in round of 50 automatically. But we should still req for this update. I am sure all clans that want to play tournament will like this update
I donāt think I would like it....
topaz charm
ehh
proud holly
I don't like it either
atomic tartan
New York. Easily.
near anvil
Or Cali
obsidian vine
Texas
proud holly
Guys hear me out,
Ohio
surreal hinge
North dakota anyone?
No?
Ok
fossil lance
i live in a state of confusion does that count?
thorn shale
depression
ocean crescent
I have a carrot, and im gona kill my mother with that.
untold tinsel
@thorn shale clans will never be based on a single state because the people arenāt all from the same state, also you have to realize not everyone on NA servers play in the United States. Latam or Central America is also mixed in with North American servers. So your idea would never work and would be a waste of time to even try to accomplish.
fallow elk
Need 4 people to join tourney
proud holly
untold tinsel
No because people in my clan are all from different places. Some are from cali, some Texas, some New York, some Florida, some south and North Carolina. It would never work unless people moved
proud holly
heeheee
atomic tartan
if we entertain the idea of a war between the states tho, i would say New York is gonna win based on people i know who are from there
surreal hinge
most likely the states with the most population (ny and cali) have the most comp blitz players in them, just based off of the imaginary proportionality of people to blitz players
and thats math in a nutshell
proud holly
proportions š
thorn shale
most likely the states with the most population (ny and cali) have the most comp blitz players in them, just based off of the imaginary proportionality of people to blitz players
and thats math in a nutshell
@surreal hinge I mean or yāall could just switch to PC and put the skill to good use cuz I mean itās a mobile game you wonāt go anywhere
surreal hinge
lol
storm phoenix
One game 2 maps glitch
thorn shale
No Just Saying It Could Be Like They Just Play for who they want. just like NBA like NBA players Donāt you know how they can choose who they play for
Who cares where they are from if they from Missouri donāt mean they canāt Play For New York. Also their should Be New Diffrent State Clans if you think about it like that only people from@new York can play for New York only people from LA can play For LA
proud holly
we already have a system where people can decide what faction they want to represent. It's called a clan
thorn shale
I am just saying if they bring Up State Tournaments Itās Gonna Be Biggest Update ever and probably pass twister Cup also their should be like A map of clans who hold which states champion. But after all I am just giving a Idea. Which could be new generation Of Tournament. Also it could also get new users more people playing I just think its gonna be good I asked my clan today and they down for the update just talking about State tournament in away
quartz wyvern
dude slow your roll
and uh
Twister comprises of international teams
so idk how a state tournament would surpass that level of competition
surreal hinge
Like i said
Dense states in terms of population have an imaginary correlation with comp blitz players
So new york and california would be automatically in the finals by a mile and a half (long gap of skill between finals match and semifinals match)
(But you could say the same about state populations)
topaz charm
@thorn shale
A. it would not be the biggest update as the majority of players are from CIS region. No matter how many capitals you put into your sentence.
B. It is never going happen
š¤
untold tinsel
It literally could never happen due to the fact that if it was going to be an update it would have to be for more than just NA servers. It would fall under EU, RU, and Asian server all of which have different ways of determining players placement.
proud holly
Now watch as Zander repeats the same statements over and over again in order to promote his āBIG IDEAā
flat goblet
Now watch as Zander repeats the same statements over and over again in order to promote his āBIG IDEAā
silver vapor
Zander who?
alpine adder
Is putting a high WR reroll just to boost overall team win rage in tournaments really not against the rules?
sleek yew
not specifically no
alpine adder
Soā¦we can do it? No consequences?
broken sedge
They gave a 10th place for this to put a 100wr acc lmao.. Gg
sinful crest
@chilly terrace any idea when the cash prizes for summer season will be paid out?
obsidian vine
Stop asking holy, how many times have u guys asked, just wait @sinful crest
proud holly
Hmhmhmhm
sinful crest
Iām asking because my players that are wondering havenāt been answered. Also the time frame we were told weād get paid was in mid august so like yeah. Another thing this whole channel is for the tournament scene to ask questions , therefore sh @obsidian vine
open zealot
@obsidian vine asking for a friend, was he talking to u š¤
silver vapor
Is putting a high WR reroll just to boost overall team win rage in tournaments really not against the rules?
@alpine adder if only, then all rerolls would also be illegal to play tours and I would feel good.
alpine adder
Bruh ok den
crisp shore
In Cyprus
topaz charm
look in ur wallet
heavy oar
Look ur paypal
crisp shore
Is Wargaming investigating for more rule violators?š
muted ore
@chilly terrace any idea when the cash prizes for summer season will be paid out?
@sinful crest Hello. The prizes have already come to the players.
For those who have not received the prizes, an additional request for information will be organized.
glass thunder
@muted ore @chilly terrace is the wr system for tournaments (autumn) is same like old one or not ?
chilly terrace
@muted ore @chilly terrace is the wr system for tournaments (autumn) is same like old one or not ?
@glass thunder The same
winter swallow
Excellent. Teams can continue to manipulate their seeding with high WR rerolls - thus increasing their chances of scoring more cups by playing the system rather than the game. Minor league esports at its finest.
silver vapor
Excellent. Teams can continue to manipulate their seeding with high WR rerolls - thus increasing their chances of scoring more cups by playing the system rather than the game. Minor league esports at its finest.
@winter swallow I know it's a bad thing to do but I feel strongly disadvantaged against rerolls under this system that have specifically armed their account to get purple wr within 20k battles just for the tours seeding advantage when we are here using our only account with 60-65% wr that has 35k+ battles that can't push wr faster than these Asian rerolls. so I just did the same and dumped an inactive account of mine to make the top 7 wr less disadvantaged compared to other teams.
thorn shale
just play tier 3
tropic lotus
^
just pull a gma
burnt glacier
Just play 1 battle with 1 win
crimson plinth
How hard would it be to normalise using total career battles of whole team(or count that corresponding tier battles only)?
azure pecan
what does it mean exactly ? avatar with our clan logo ?
chilly terrace
what does it mean exactly ? avatar with our clan logo ?
@azure pecan "Can be" doesn't mean "will be". We collect this data to have time for drawing avatars for the best teams. As far we won't know who will be the best until this date, we ask this data from all who potentially would be the best.
P.S. There is not any word about clan logo.
azure pecan
hey, ok thanks for answer, i get it now
i mean yeah its not as clear as you just explained it, in the ig note
sleek basin
If rolling doesnāt like wr seeding, I think u get a better seeding by how ur team performed in the previous tourney, is the only other option
crisp shore
Or a ranking system like Tennis where all your participations are taken into account, while there will be points for both clan and player respectively, just to account for clan changes
pale finch
Yeah another type of seeding would be nice but I understand that you may have different priorities - Will battles still not be taken into consideration? So a 100% win rate account wonāt boost the team win rate by like 4% as happened in the spring season
chilly terrace
I've explained why such system won't be implemented. In short, there are not enough tournament players for such ratings.
Yeah another type of seeding would be nice but I understand that you may have different priorities
@pale finch We are researching options how to make it better.
sleek basin
Oh I see, well to be honest reading through the rules of this year, the new āascentā tourney look like they are an improvement, in my option I think they ascent side of these PYS tourneys are better set up then last years but I havenāt played yet obviously but On paper i like some of the changes
crisp shore
One big problem that needs to be removed from the current seeding is that it encourages players to create a new account, achieve 1 win, and spend a lot of money to get specific tier 10 tanks.
Experienced players, most-improved players, skilled tier 10 players should be rewarded in this new seeding.
pale finch
Alright Iām glad to hear that, I hope we will have some improvement done until the next major tournament, thanks for your answer Artyom
sleek basin
@crisp shore I donāt see that as huge problem tho, the best teams still have to consistently prove themselves to get through, then the like 6 teams battling for the last spot in top 8 go down to the wire/very last ascent, the teams that compete at a high level more consistently have the best chance to go through, thatās a good thing in my opinion, it just means u wonāt get the dream bracket all the time, which sometime u get and sometime u donāt either way u either win or lose.
pale finch
This is true, the best teams should always prevail and if not theyāre not the ā best teams ā but the system is still flawed and should be worked on I think
crisp shore
I donāt see that as huge problem tho, the best teams still have to consistently prove themselves to get through, then the like 6 teams battling for the last spot in top 8 go down to the wire/very last ascent, the teams that compete at a high level more consistently have the best chance to go through, thatās a good thing in my opinion, it just means u wonāt get the dream bracket all the time, which sometime u get and sometime u donāt either way u either win or lose.
@sleek basin Same can be said for a random draw here. However, what happens is that using this seeding, you can put your team in a better draw than others, hence it somehow gives a message that if you want to achieve big things with CW, your goal is to get better overall win rate, rather than beating the big names and playing well in tournaments. Getting better overall win rate is increasingly difficult for experienced players and players who start off bad but improved immensely over time. Because you need better win rate, you can also improve your win rate much more easily by playing a lot of low tiers, which is against what the seeding is supposed to do in the first place.
In short, the seeding should be designed in such a way that it rewards clans who genuinely try hard in demonstrating how good they are through tournament performances. I think the new seeding should take into account past big tournament performances.
sleek basin
U are correct thereās a happy medium between both our arguments u make some good points, I just see that me being good is a me problem, and if Iām the worst it will take multiple seasons to get up to the level to compete at a high standards against the best thereās some decent competition out there, I thought he said there wasnāt enough teams to do it that way tho? Even tho Iād prolly be open to that
winter swallow
We need strongest-weakest MM. However, we also need an accurate way of seeding strength. Average WR alone just doesn't cut it. It's a stupid way of seeding that is too easily abused.
The fact that after 5+ years of tournaments, WG is still using random battle stats to seed tournament events... I mean. Come on. It is just impossibly amateurish.
crisp shore
I thought he said there wasnāt enough teams to do it that way tho? Even tho Iād prolly be open to that
@sleek basin Currently I have devised a way in my head on how it will work, but I haven't developed on this idea totally. Yet, I think the problem with inadequate teams would not be a big problem from my idea.
civic glacier
@pale finch I thought battles were taken into consideration with team wr
Edit: oh, I did not know that lol
pale finch
Not for spring at least, one team had only one player above 70% which was an account with 1 battle and 100% win rate and their team win rate was over 70% lol. The thing is that in game it shows you the total battles and win rate on all 10 players but whatās actually calculated into the seeding is the win rate of the 7 best players but just flat win rate and no battles are counted. @civic glacier
sleek basin
@winter swallow @crisp shore I like some of the point u guys make, id prefer seeding to be based on previous team performances in tourneys and such but rexy said heās addressed why we canāt multiple times, and I havenāt read all his comments so I should prolly shut up, Iām just glad they are willing to adjust things season to season and Iām excited to play
silver vapor
Iām excited for the extra spot to shove my idle 90% wr reroll that has a tier x until thereās a system that evaluates teams pound for pound for what theyāre worth.
sleek basin
Ok I didnāt know u could do that ššš @pale finch @silver vapor that has to be changed then
pale finch
Iām excited for the extra spot to shove my idle 90% wr reroll that has a tier x until thereās a system that evaluates teams pound for pound for what theyāre worth.
@silver vapor wow... not even 95%
silver vapor
Idk man I wasnāt the one who invented the trend i just followed it, so I donāt have a 100% wr account laying around with tier x just for this seeding.
winter swallow
@winter swallow @crisp shore I like some of the point u guys make, id prefer seeding to be based on previous team performances in tourneys and such but rexy said heās addressed why we canāt multiple times, and I havenāt read all his comments so I should prolly shut up, Iām just glad they are willing to adjust things season to season and Iām excited to play
@sleek basin in my experience - when WG says why it won't do something that is obviously a good idea, it means that WG can't do it yet.
Look at the current group structure with losers progressing onto subsequent brackets.
Skillz put this to them in October 2019. I sat in their office and spent 2 hours drawing it on a whiteboard for them in January 2020. The reason it has taken 9+ months to implement? WG had to figure out how to do it first. Same reason we don't have a Mad Games tournament yet - they haven't figured out how to do it.
Here is the key thing.
It will be a bad idea and bad time to implement it until they figure out how to it.
chilly terrace
@sleek basin in my experience - when WG says why it won't do something that is obviously a good idea, it means that WG can't do it yet.
Look at the current group structure with losers progressing onto subsequent brackets.
Skillz put this to them in October 2019. I sat in their office and spent 2 hours drawing it on a whiteboard for them in January 2020. The reason it has taken 9+ months to implement? WG had to figure out how to do it first. Same reason we don't have a Mad Games tournament yet - they haven't figured out how to do it.
Here is the key thing.
It will be a bad idea and bad time to implement it until they figure out how to it.
@winter swallow
It was informative to read your point of view :)
But I'd like to say that we don't see a reason to create rocket science implementations for things that can be solved in more suitable ways. In other words, there is no sense in creating (which will take several years) Great Rating System That Will Count Everything , if the potential of this system is unlikely to be used even for 50%.
silver vapor
Then create the rating system for 100%, problem solved? I know it's not that easy but just saying.
thorn shale
I mean I donāt mind the current system. All I am scared of are some teams. Doesnāt matter how hard the bracket is due to our lower winrate, we can still take on a lot of high wr teams and still win. Just cause a team has a high wr doesnāt mean they arenāt beatable. Yeah the system isnāt generous to teams like us, but we have to just work around it and be better to compensate for our low winrate. Anyway, in NA most of the high wr teams deserve to get the top 8 spot anyway
loud oxide
Wow WG just closing the player support without any reply lol.
My question was "Summer Season Championship
I think I'm the only one who didn't get $20 in the team. I used vpn and I was suspended because Wargaming misunderstood. I proved that SM-A750N is my device, and the current suspension has been completely lifted, and even though I'm not a player who violates the rules, I haven't received any prize money. Therefore, I request you to fully pay my compensation."
But no reply even i sent player support 5times nice atitude
thick coyote
Wanted to ask something , not tournament related but , i accidentally spend my xp on tracks and i wanted to get it back ,i made ticket and there was option for combat xp , but they replied we cant give back ur xp , if they cant why is there option for combat xp?
winter swallow
Going above and beyond WR seeding isn't rocket science. That you think it is, speaks volumes and explains so many things about why tournaments are the way they are...
crisp shore
Besides another problem with WR seeding is that if the top teams have the similar win rate throughout the season, the seeding at the top 10-20 spots might stay the same. Consequently, some teams face each other all the time, while we might never see some other combinations, e.g. EG- vs. R-2-K during Spring Ascent. This problem happened numerous times to teams in the EU server, e.g. LGN facing -W1N- during the Spring Season for like at least 3 times? Besides seeding, some competitions use pots as well in a way that there is some randomness in the draw to prevent teams facing one another for an abundant number of times, and that should be implemented in a way such that getting top 8 is not about beating the same clan 5/5 times.
surreal hinge
going to link my earlier message about the question i had. https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/521999784991522817/749504328666185800
proud holly
tfw no embed
glass thunder
i like more this year system because the final stage give few more cups only starting from 313 for 8th-16th positions not like last year ascent ticket tournament that give 2300 cups just for playing it
so if good teams fail to get the final stage they can do good in final stage of other tournament and get the points back
still wr system is bad in eu we already have VEIL and Souls with 100% wr player with 1 battle
hollow bolt
Would be great if the community could get a team of all 1 battle rerolls that like didn't train with eachother at all but still played with their 100% WR team to see how far they got
tribal skiff
Itās weighted by games in pubs. This is a team on NA before and after adding a high WR reroll. Said reroll has 264 games in public and a boatload of tournament and ratings battles. The teamās WR changes very little. Plus, I randomly had one of those 100%, one battle plus 5k in ratings players apply to one of my teams a few weeks back. I let the person on, just to see how much the teamās win rate was changed. It went up by .01%
thorn shale
@tribal skiff that isnāt the right wr. It is on their website. Battles are not taken into account. But the reroll will definitely raise their wr but 2-3 percent. The wr on blitz assistant and this are not the correct wr. Only the website.
tribal skiff
Interesting. I actually didnāt know that
sleek basin
@surreal hinge I saw that the message link u had, ya thatās a rip coach
surreal hinge
@surreal hinge I saw that the message link u had, ya thatās a rip coach
@sleek basin nah its fine its a prefectly fine system with no flaws whatsoever .__.
thorn shale
@surreal hinge to answer your question, itās purely winrate based
Thatās why SURG3 got a bye to the semis
The system doesnāt account for performances from the previous stage
proud holly
. . .
surreal hinge
Thats just stupid, even though you may have practiced hours upon hours to to be the best and yet you dont get an advancement because the team you beat has a higher winrate
The meta isnt even practice anymore its just who can reroll the highest
left portal
Thatās pretty dumb tbh if you have a double staged tournament why would you not take into account performance in the previous stage
tropic lotus
Because then you can do things like play 2000 battles in t3 in a couple months to get better seeding
proud holly
completely fair and represented
thorn shale
Will someone be streaming NA ascents?
surreal hinge
Will someone be streaming NA ascents?
@thorn shale i wouldnt think so, i would think that they may stream some blitz preliminaries and the championship but thats about it
they didnt stream the off season championship even though its labeled "Championship" XD
red vapor
Offseasons are irrelevant anyways... I mean half of the decent clans werenāt even playing
hardy prairie
^ offseasons are irrelevant. The ticketed ascents were streamed by Fishy and Amaunet in spring. I hope that carries over to this season's final stages of PYS's
surreal hinge
you would be wrong. RGN, PRAMO, PNCR, _STR8, HATED, GMA, -GP-, -MM, Void, and more played in the championship, so i wouldnt call it irrelevant when you have most, if not all, of the top 8 clans playing
sweet flax
yeah they mightve played, but the os champ tournament itself didnt mean anything
hardy prairie
I can assure you, we didnt play any special strats or do anything mindblowing in the championship last night. Offseasons are irrelevant in that sense. It offered about 2k gold and that's literally the only reason I even bothered showing up. It "meant" nothing to me is what I'm saying
sleek basin
Uh killer those were my most sweaty strats why u gotta do me like thatš
surreal hinge
then why advertise it as a championship if its so irrelevant?
crisp shore
Offseasons are irrelevant anyways... I mean half of the decent clans werenāt even playing
Not the case for EU as all the top 8 candidates imo have participated
yeah they mightve played, but the os champ tournament itself didnt mean anything
Personally I found it to be quite important as it prepares you for the Autumn Season. It is a platform for clans to gain experience and cool their nerves during a big tournament, because this is the closest to what the atmosphere of an advanced stage of a big season tournament would be. This is also the most important pre-season tournament to fine-tune strats, rotations, calls, communication etc. Prize pool is not important here, but the experience and feedback from the games are invaluable.
tropic lotus
NA comp is lackluster compared to other regions
hardy prairie
Yea. But that's also what scrims are for. That too ^. And it's advertised as a championship cuz it is... for the offseason...
surreal hinge
but if offseason is so irrelevant then why have a championship for it?
tropic lotus
Itās more a casual championship if you will
glacial lantern
Yea I think casual is the perfect term. It was just like a training for the real thing to see how things worked
surreal hinge
fair enough. so not really irrelevant, just like a mock-up version of twister/autumn season
tropic lotus
Eh. Just something to keep the ones who are interested engaged. Not everyone who plays tournaments plays competitively. Some can use it as practice, but others find that they can get more effective practice through other means like scrims and such.
Itās taken more seriously as you can see on EU because to put it simply, the comp audience/playerbase on EU is larger and better
shadow verge
Why do I have to go through the App Store every time to open discord its bs
proud holly
oh?
plucky grove
Help
wraith briar
mossy perch
Nice tank
leaden belfry
@thorn shale @surreal hinge We weren't asked to stream the off season championship, but some streamers did stream it all the same, at least for EU and Asia. As for the Prove your Skill - that's being streamed by a whole bunch of people.
For EU you've got me, R1B, Fugit, 3very, Wildones.
For NA you've got Fishy, iNeear, PapaRage and potentially Droodles, but he's not given any links yet.
And for Asia you've got Fugit and Wildones
most of us will stream all second days - so Wednesdays and Sundays
inland solstice
let me just get my supply of multiple 100% wr accounts out so i can influence ascents in the same way they were in spring season, nice to see wg specialists doing smth about it.
chilly terrace
Wow WG just closing the player support without any reply lol.
My question was "Summer Season Championship
I think I'm the only one who didn't get $20 in the team. I used vpn and I was suspended because Wargaming misunderstood. I proved that SM-A750N is my device, and the current suspension has been completely lifted, and even though I'm not a player who violates the rules, I haven't received any prize money. Therefore, I request you to fully pay my compensation."
But no reply even i sent player support 5times nice atitude
@loud oxide
You'll receive your part of money prize in the second wave of paying out.
loud oxide
finally, ok thanks for your reply
@chilly terrace
chilly terrace
Alright wargaming explain this. SURG3 lost to Quake, the GMA team, 3-0 and get a pass to the semifinals??? And nor PNCR or the GMA team that beat SURG3 don't get a pass even though they have better stats overall on each team AND Quake beat the SURG3 team???
@surreal hinge Seeding doesn't consider positions in previous rounds.
Going above and beyond WR seeding isn't rocket science. That you think it is, speaks volumes and explains so many things about why tournaments are the way they are...
@winter swallow
I probably won't comment comment your suggestions anymore as far as I see that you have strong point of view that you are not ready to reconsider.
winter swallow
Ditto. The irony is hilarious.
forest matrix
@chilly terrace in the case of 10 spot team does the system compute the teamās wr based on the 7 best players wr or 8 best ? (I know it was 7 in case of 9 spot team so I wonder about 10)
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace in the case of 10 spot team does the system compute the teamās wr based on the 7 best players wr or 8 best ? (I know it was 7 in case of 9 spot team so I wonder about 10)
@forest matrix Based on maximum players amount in the battle. In this case it's 7.
winter swallow
Which is very logical because you can reroll, enter into newbie MM - and score a very high WR very easily. š - that account doesn't even need to play a battle. Just skew the team seeding higher to get easier opponents.
inland solstice
Which is very logical because you can reroll, enter into newbie MM - and score a very high WR very easily. š - that account doesn't even need to play a battle. Just skew the team seeding higher to get easier opponents.
@winter swallow severely flawed system that we saw was terrible in spring season (e.g. what happened to win with their seeding) and it looks like the same will potentially happen yet again. The fact that its actually got worse now is laughable with more teams doing it.
analog osprey
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winter swallow
@winter swallow severely flawed system that we saw was terrible in spring season (e.g. what happened to win with their seeding) and it looks like the same will potentially happen yet again. The fact that its actually got worse now is laughable with more teams doing it.
@inland solstice Absolutely. It's like a mini-game within tournaments. A lot of teams will see the value and do it. They might not win the whole event, but they'll do better versus themselves, compared to if they didn't boost their WR, and will disrupt the field and integrity of the tournament for the top-mid tier teams.
hoary ridge
I still cant understand why wargaming does not just take the 30/60 day winrate and also Count the battles which are played... I dont think that would be a problem for a company which devolped a game like wotb but sadly it seams like they are not capabel. Maybe they just want many people to make rerolls and buy premtime and Premiumtanks there... That is the only reason i can see! Btw are rerolls even allowed in the EULA?
inland solstice
couldn't agree more, it just ruins the dynamic of the top/mid tier. I had thought wg would do something about this (due to the amount of negative feedback from spring season) but apparently not. Not surprised to see people walk away from the game entirely.
crisp shore
Not going to name the clan here but you know which clan I'm always talking about during the Summer Season concerning using win rate seeding to their advantage, and wasting that advantage... could have given that to a much more competent team, hence current win rate seeding should be changed
analog osprey
After these teams flop during the top8
thorn shale
@chilly terrace are battles played taken into consideration for the winrate seeding? Or is it purely winrate only?
(For example is an account with 50 thousand battles and 70% considered the same in the seeding as an account with 1 thousand battles and 70% winrate?)
And sorry if this has been answered before, I personally donāt fully know the ins and outs of the seeding system š
analog osprey
Purely winrate
inland solstice
@analog osprey wdym it's just so entertaining watching teams get 1 or 0 wins in top 8 š
mellow hawk
Prove your skill tournament tonight is gonna be horrible, so many on the Asian server are having log in issues, I myself havenāt been able to log in for about 20+ minutes now (So good thing I registered my team earlier). Iād guess there will be many teams tonight that have players missing due to this issue, so I really hope this aināt gonna mess up the first of the ascents
alpine adder
@winter swallow itās already happening. Not going to take names here for obvious reasons. But The highest WR team in Asia atm is using a reroll with 11 battles to boost WR by 2 percent. I know itās not against the rules. But why should it be allowed when itās so easily fixable.
That being said, what perfectionist said is a bigger issue, half the Asia server canāt even log in at the moment.
winter swallow
@chilly terrace are battles played taken into consideration for the winrate seeding? Or is it purely winrate only?
(For example is an account with 50 thousand battles and 70% considered the same in the seeding as an account with 1 thousand battles and 70% winrate?)
@thorn shale weighting it according to battles and tier where WR was earned would be smart. AFAIK, it is currently just the global WR.
alpine adder
Itās only the win rate of the top 7 players. Battles arenāt taken into account (in the team win rate shown in the game and on the assistant app they are, but thatās not the WR that matters, the WR showed on the website is the one that determines seeding, and that doesnāt take into account battles)
patent quartz
time to change something, it can't remain like this for the rest of this game's existence (couldnt fit 2 mores screens of another team doing the same with a 100% acc without any T10)
bronze girder
100% wr accounts entering teams without having a tier X is a bad joke (100% alone are) @chilly terrace
forest matrix
We are having the same discussion as during last spring guys. As nothing has changed in between, it is logical that teams mitigate the bias that WG is not interested to solve. Speaking about our clan after two tournament suffering our legacy stats we decided to enter the game RS was talking about. It is a pity but that way it will maybe move (to give some figures for those out of EU we were top10 Eu wn8 over last 30 days tier>8 and seeded rank 35 in the last summer championship)
lunar stirrup
Am I blind or ? Mybe I should go to my optician
analog osprey
Anyways, the most important thing is health. GOLAHHHHH
gentle sierra
Respect souls smh š¤
alpine adder
@chilly terrace um, tournament is starting and many people in Asia still canāt log in due to the synchronizing account issue.
Is the tournament still going on?
@lime glen
mellow hawk
WG half my team havenāt received invites to the room, enemy has full team.....
Edit: Weāre all in now, but we had we were short for the first battle.....
silver vapor
Wg half of my team can't login
crisp shore
@chilly terrace Just to double check (which you have replied I think earlier here), if the team is comprised of more than 2 "foreign" players and are in the top 8 from the PYS tournaments, that would not be admitted to the qualifiers leading to Blitz Cup right? If so, will that be given to the 9th-placing team?
But by all means please respond to iLION, Maddox and Perfectionist queries first
mellow hawk
Actually we won first game anyway so I guess weāre lucky there lmao
alpine adder
PGMT, K1NG, FEAST, Cats, N0VA, all the clans are having trouble logging in on Asia.
velvet dome
I vote to postpone the tourney by at least 1 hour.
silver vapor
Postponing will do nothing if nothing is being fixed
velvet dome
Its just a suggestion if nothing is being done in the first place
silver vapor
I'd rather they just void the results of this tournament since the schedule doesn't allow for redoing the entire tournament. Making the next 7 pys tours count for Asia shouldn't be such a big deal since there's less competition here and 7 sets should still be able to distinguish top 8 properly.
crisp shore
Wargaming postponed the tournaments during Summer Season Ascent Tournaments (I think #7?) on Asia server on the same day because there was a bug with handing out technical victories. Guess what happened? The bug was still there for the entire day.
Wargaming should stop the tournament in the Asia server now. Spend time fixing this issue before the next series. Wargaming must make sure that does not happen to other servers.
alpine adder
Packet loss on the server right now is uh, can we postpone tournament? Half of us canāt make it in anyways
chilly terrace
All results will reseted. Tournament will be postponed by 1 day
past marlin
Will the brackets and everything will change too
chilly terrace
Maps will be changed, brackets will be the same
broken sedge
We got invite for quarter finals
velvet dome
Will we need to re-register again or is it locked in?
I can see teams not registering if we have to re-register.
tepid sun
Uh, we're in the room now. What we do ? No need play ?
carmine solstice
Uh, we're in the room now. What we do ? No need play ?
@tepid sun donāt play if u trust wg lmao
green talon
banned
dim pivot
@tepid sun donāt play if u trust wg lmao
@carmine solstice lmao so tru
livid venture
banned
@green talon u
silver vapor
There's also the issue of teams not able to reg for the tour because of the login issues and postponing the tour for 1 day will mean players have to change their schedule @chilly terrace maybe consider cancelling it?
alpine adder
Itās locked. Brackets wonāt be changed, only maps will be changed, no need to re register.
I donāt think any teams missed out on registration, this is all youāre gonna get from Asia.
Besides if they do that some clans who donāt use discord or arenāt informed might not registered again and miss out.
thorn shale
let this one slide
broken sedge
This is sad... Made to semi... And restart
carmine solstice
I simp for suggu
gentle sierra
@inland solstice š
vale girder
There's also the issue of teams not able to reg for the tour because of the login issues and postponing the tour for 1 day will mean players have to change their schedule @chilly terrace maybe consider cancelling it?
@silver vapor i second that, the contest schedule is way too packed as it is, we are talking about four 2 hours sessions a week, just cancel this one
alpine adder
The decision at the end is Wargamings, I would prefer if the tournament was still held tomorrow with the same brackets and the maps reset.
dim pivot
I simp for suggu
@carmine solstice i simp for u too <3
thorn shale
@alpine adder i simp
jaunty talon
@patent quartz The 100% Wr in the team account is not a cheat (the more that this player plays with us and has several 10 tiers), there is no such prohibition in the tournament rules, you are clinging to strength.
And you are the last person with the right to do so, last season you didn't win cups and players from K4 joined you, which was also legal, but many people insulted you because of it.
I was on your side because if something is not forbidden, it is legal.
But you're a typical hypocrite, you see someone's problem, and if it shows up for you, suddenly it's okay.
thorn shale
apologize wg, terrible server
The tournament was "PROVE YOUR SKILLS"
Wargaming proved their skills during tournament by kicking all the competitors
patent quartz
no it's not a cheat, just a way to bias the WR seeding you've guys been using for the last 2 years, same thing called differently, plus wg fixed what u just quoted in a single tournament, compared to the epxloit youq.ve been using that has remained the same for the past 3 years, now dont tag me nor talk to me until you and APA make your way to top 8 fairly, wasting my time talking with exploiters
broken sedge
So todays and tomorrow's tournament will be on Wednesday and thursday?
dense delta
whats going on?
inland solstice
no it's not a cheat, just a way to bias the WR seeding you've guys been using for the last 2 years, same thing called differently, plus wg fixed what u just quoted in a single tournament, compared to the epxloit youq.ve been using that has remained the same for the past 3 years, now dont tag me nor talk to me until you and APA make your way to top 8 fairly, wasting my time talking with exploiters
@patent quartz +1
past marlin
Uh
alpine adder
Yes I think so, Wednesday and Thursday.
@dense delta tournament has been postponed to tomorrow.
Many people couldnāt log in today, so tournament will be reset, maps will be changed but brackets will remain same
slim creek
@patent quartz The 100% Wr in the team account is not a cheat (the more that this player plays with us and has several 10 tiers), there is no such prohibition in the tournament rules, you are clinging to strength.
And you are the last person with the right to do so, last season you didn't win cups and players from K4 joined you, which was also legal, but many people insulted you because of it.
I was on your side because if something is not forbidden, it is legal.But you're a typical hypocrite, you see someone's problem, and if it shows up for you, suddenly it's okay.
@jaunty talon +1
jaunty talon
@patent quartz
You try to slander us by writing something about "fairly", where you are far from these rules yourself, show me where we are breaking the rules of the tournament, because for now it is an unproductive cry.
You are not responsible for determining what is fair and what is not.
crimson island
@jaunty talon +1 š¦
jaunty talon
Am I blind or ? Mybe I should go to my optician
@lunar stirrup probably yes.
hearty anvil
do we get compensation after you wasted our time for nothing WG
alpine adder
Imo even if in this case the account in question is a proper one, it doesnāt mean the system isnāt being exploited by certain other clans to boost win rates.
Just because something isnāt banned doesnāt mean it shouldnāt be or is good. Itās certainly a way to exploit seeding if used as such and shouldnāt be doable. But to shame clans for using it while itās legal and allowed is also wrong.
patent quartz
last point, who's the most hypocrite, the one using an exploit and didnt get anything from it only ONCE ? or the one stealing 2 top 8 in a row to some other clan that deserves it the most using a 3Years old exploit? on these words i'll just mute you, you're not worth anyone's attention on anything but your exploits, hypocrite.
lunar stirrup
None said that you are breaking the rules but that you are taking advantage of a flaw in MMs system.
What happened with fbi was immediately fixed by wg and will not happen anymore.
But concerning the clans which take advantage of the wr seeding system nothing has been done so far @jaunty talon
random swift
FBI: noooooo, we don't have tickeeets
K4: hi
inland solstice
whether we like it or not. FBI in that top 8 would've been more entertaining and accurate than this. W1N was practically robbed of a spot in top 8 by this method used by the 3 teams here.
woven pilot
Where tournament?
split cosmos
Ded
alpine adder
The fact that people will come out to defend something thatās obviously an oversight and a way to cheat the system should explain what their attitude towards the game is. But itās not their fault for using it as it is clearly allowed. Even if itās morally wrong. Itās WGs fault for not fixing it.
@woven pilot cancelled today because people canāt log in, it is tomorrow now. Same teams but new maps.
jaunty talon
@lunar stirrup
So let him do something about it, blame the WG, not us. @patent quartz You do not know the definition of the word hypocrite, I am consistent, in any case I believe that if something is not forbidden then it is allowed. WG is about setting the rules, not some frustration who did not get into the tournament and thinks he was "cheated".
By the way, I remind you that F-B-I played on the accounts of Polish players in
"Polish mobile league".
You haven't won anything there, despite cheating, but it doesn't mean that you are honest, but simply inept.
gentle sierra
Imagine using arguments @inland solstice
bronze rampart
100% accos are funny š
last stratus
@gentle sierra I agree man
warped patrol
š
inland solstice
@gentle sierra poggers
lunar stirrup
Guys take it easy pls, we r not here to destroy each other
@random swift pls read the msg I wrote jst above
@jaunty talon seems like they dont want to do anything thats the pb and u guys continue to take advantage...
shadow topaz
š
gentle sierra
šæ
random swift
š©
split cosmos
ššš )
analog osprey
Polish mafia šØ !!!!!!!!!
thorn shale
whether we like it or not. FBI in that top 8 would've been more entertaining and accurate than this. W1N was practically robbed of a spot in top 8 by this method used by the 3 teams here.
@inland solstice which 3? Just asking
jaunty talon
@lunar stirrup
I wasn't the first to attack your clan, I said myself that half a year ago I was on the side of you and RA1D, you can't accuse someone of cheating if it doesn't break the rules. It is the role of the WG, not us, we can only make suggestions.
It irritates me that it's been the 3rd or 4th time that someone here tries to offend us.
inland solstice
@thorn shale you know which 3 lol I don't need to elaborate.
bronze rampart
š¤” šÆ
shadow topaz
š
alpine adder
@chilly terrace werenāt the maps supposed to be changed? It shows the same maps.
glass thunder
Eu teams be like next veil to use that 100% wr account
carmine solstice
Can u blokes take this to dms or your owns servers smh
thorn shale
Veil never used that 100% wr acc. It was LXN in spring season @glass thunder
analog osprey
They are players Violeta will play for Apa and souls ahahahha Violeta Fen1x need u too
crimson island
š¦
bronze girder
ban all polish players
jaunty talon
@glass thunder
XDD, PAN_POCIONG_KRUL is a fraud? Are you funny when you order a ban on high win rates?@bronze girder good idea š
random swift
give us better emulators š¦
shadow topaz
š š š š š š
turbid sinew
LC team with 4 rerolls š¤®
tranquil seal
š½
glass thunder
@thorn shale Yes never sorry
@turbid sinew where rerolls? In lc team we have only 1
@thorn shale but i did share autumn teams so i was talking about this season
thorn shale
@glass thunder i was talking about spring season...
limpid geyser
XDDD wg seeding system goes brrrrrt
gentle sierra
Imagine going through all that just to get smashed yet again in a major tournament
Shady idk what u talking about @inland solstice
bronze girder
@turbid sinew hey crybaby suck on my carrot š„ š¦
defending 100%wr players š¤”
jaunty talon
@glass thunder
tell a colleague to drop to 75% or less or you'll be disqualified.
steel shell
80 with playing and 100% is kinda not the same
tired apex
XDD
sonic iron
IQ300
last stratus
@gentle sierra š
inland solstice
@gentle sierra bouncing maus flashback š;)
crisp shore
INB4 you all cancel me from MET1S team š š
crimson island
Shame Shame Shame
mellow hawk
Iām confused WG.... This battle we just did today, it was our first round, we won 2-1 and then faced the next team. Why does it now have this back here again saying we are playing tomorrow? Neither us nor E4D made top 4 in our group tonight.
glass thunder
@glass thunder
tell a colleague to drop to 75% or less or you'll be disqualified.
@jaunty talon you blame us for using phoxy (account he play on ) when you use 3 reroll2 of them are made only for wr system seeding smh
alpine adder
@mellow hawk the tournament results today have been reset because many people couldnāt log in.
The tournament will be held tomorrow again from the start with the same brackets. Different maps.
bronze girder
Shame Shame Shame
@crimson island shame indeed 100% player u entering battle with a type 62 perhaps? š¤” š¤”
analog osprey
Alliance are allowed?
hardy cloud
Can someone confirm that the tournament maps have indeed been changed?
The CALM team played against ACT-1 tonight on Canal, with a tie-breaker scheduled for Fort Despair. The renewed tournament schedule for tomorrow shows Canal, Canal, Middleburg. Is this what WG means by 'map change'?
lunar stirrup
@jaunty talon stop talkin about tickets or Idk what. Anyways the rule has been fixed for this case .
What u are doing every tour is jst unfair for teams like w1n elem or ve1l and wg should do something about it (like minimum 1 T10 + 10k battles or whatever...).
patent quartz
@lunar stirrup stop giving them attention, they don't deserve it and will get stepped on during Top8 anyway
limpid geyser
@jaunty talon you blame us for using phoxy (account he play on ) when you use 3 reroll2 of them are made only for wr system seeding smh
@glass thunder you mean me? I just like winning while being carried by competent touch players.
warped patrol
XDD
thorn shale
touch
fathom tiger
why do you even have rerolls
crisp shore
I am a shameful person
bronze girder
just ban apa and souls
reply šµš± š« if u agree!
glass thunder
@lunar stirrup who even argue with those kids they are here to troll
As you know they spam ez after winning
And spam insults after losing so better ignore those š¤”
analog osprey
Hey lol EG- alliance with us?????
@bronze girder šš
š³š±š«
jaunty talon
@lunar stirrup
If WG makes a better system, I will be very happy, and if you make fun of trying to call it a fraud, something that is not a fraud, because there are no rules on this subject.The more that you know well how many times you cheated in the past, I don't even talk about tickets anymore, because you made fatter scams.
So far, a team such as w1n can simply take a 100% wr account to the team and I will support them very much, because they are a very good clan and team.
inland solstice
@bronze girder š³š± š«
gentle sierra
š š«
crimson island
just ban apa and souls
reply šµš± š« if u agree!
@bronze girder POLSKA GUROM
limpid geyser
just ban apa and souls
reply šµš± š« if u agree!
@bronze girder i see we have a real gentleman here xD i would vote for ban cause whole Polish community is cancer
alpine adder
@hardy cloud The maps for first the rounds arenāt changed except tie breaker. The maps for quarter finals and onwards are completely changed. They are now black goldville instead of Port bay.
No worries mate, good luck tomorrow
Can yāall EU bois take this somewhere else, at least you guys have the ability to log into the server, we in Asia canāt even do that lmao. Our tournament today was canceled and reset after reaching semis because half the teams couldnāt log in.
hardy cloud
@alpine adder Alright, thanks for the info. Very much appreciated š
leaden anchor
@bronze girder Why are xenophobia and other extremist attitudes on the increase?
random swift
just ban apa and souls
reply šµš± š« if u agree!
today is 1 September and we are under attack again like 81 years ago šµš± š
xD
tired apex
just ban apa and souls
reply šµš± š« if u agree!
@bronze girder
XDDD
bronze girder
just ban apa and souls
reply šµš± š« if u agree!
(also no one cares about asia our top 16 would be top 1 there)
thorn shale
facts
warped patrol
Just use pzb2 or keni otsu for better wr š“āā ļøš«
steel shell
It's pathetic to use 100% accs
winter swallow
Eu teams be like next veil to use that 100% wr account
@glass thunder - yes - but as the Genius of @chilly terrace has already pointed out with zero evidence or substantiation- this obviously doesn't change tournament results at all.
Provided of course you choose to ignore RA1D getting knocked out of the top 8 in spring 2020... because they were smart enough to exploit another loophole to stay in, qualify for top 8 and win the whole thing overall.
Also @analog osprey - I am British. Not Maltese. you š¤”
analog osprey
š²š¹š« šš
glass thunder
@glass thunder - yes - but as the Genius of @chilly terrace has already pointed out with zero evidence or substantiation- this obviously doesn't change tournament results at all.
Unless of course you choose to ignore RA1D getting knocked out of the top 8 in spring 2020... because they were smart enough to exploit another loophole to stay in, qualify for top 8 and win the whole thing overall.
@winter swallow sadly players did report rerolls and ticks problems but wg didnāt even care and players did abuse it
inland solstice
@last stratus gday
tired apex
jaunty talon
@bronze girder Oh no! When is the ban on playing for Russian players?
Maybe let's just ban everyone and give the LC- prize right away?
limpid geyser
Meanwhile Mercy Wg says š·šŗ š«
shadow topaz
Coming soon
random swift
xD
thorn shale
@shadow topaz yes pls. Who has the spring season one? I wanna watch again and laugh
analog osprey
šš
crimson island
XD
winter swallow
It was brilliant @thorn shale
alpine adder
@bronze girder I mean, Iād rather be 50th place then have an attitude like that. Imagine thinking youāre worth more because youāre better at a dying mobile game. Then again, it explains a lot, People tend cling to the only achievements they have in life. Sorry if I offended you, but Good day mate. :)
@inland solstice not everyone plays for twister cups, some people have lives to focus on.
inland solstice
@alpine adder i like the twister cup you guys have
shadow topaz
@thorn shale
https://youtu.be/5jdl1vzno1g
hardy cloud
@alpine adder
Sorry bout the ping, can you tell me where you got the info about the maps for the quarter-finals onwards? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
thorn shale
@thorn shale
https://youtu.be/5jdl1vzno1g
@shadow topaz thankssss
crisp shore
@alpine adder
Sorry bout the ping, can you tell me where you got the info about the maps for the quarter-finals onwards? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
@hardy cloud I believe he is talking about the first round having identical maps for tonight and tomorrow
turbid sinew
alpine adder
@hardy cloud ID got promoted to quarters due to their group not being full. You can see the maps there for quarters. Before it was port bay now it is goldville.
The first stage has first two identical maps and then the tiebreaker is changed.
thorn shale
Tbh im hyped to see the vid of the Autumn Season xD
chilly terrace
Iām confused WG.... This battle we just did today, it was our first round, we won 2-1 and then faced the next team. Why does it now have this back here again saying we are playing tomorrow? Neither us nor E4D made top 4 in our group tonight.
@mellow hawk Fixed. There is random choosing of maps, so unfortunately the same maps were set for the first round.
The first stage of Prove your skill! #1 ASIA tournament were moved to the 2nd of September, 19:00 (UTC +8).
The second stage of this tournament were moved to the 3rd of September, 19:00 (UTC +8).
mellow hawk
š Thanks for the response. I guess we just have to take this as a blessing and hope we donāt mess up round 2 like tonight.
chilly terrace
The first stage of Prove your skill! #1 ASIA tournament were moved to the 2nd of...
bronze girder
Tbh im hyped to see the vid of the Autumn Season xD
@thorn shale if they include themselves yeah
glass thunder
who is next
crimson island
@glass thunder š
burnt glacier
Let's make WG's seeding system great again and put everyone 100% acc to each team
glass thunder
yes and then change tournament name to prove your WR
@strange spruce i said nothing bad about you or your team
strange spruce
@glass thunder @bronze girder Firstly, you can participate in āProve your skillā tournaments from any country. Secondly, we have 6 players living in Europe. Thirdly, there is no ban on participation in tournaments for players with 100% wr, especially if this player will play. But if we enter the top 8, which I doubt very much, we will solve the problem with the remaining players from outside Europe.
bronze girder
@strange spruce we never complained from which country u were 0 problem for me, just making 100% accounts is our problem
and especially like APA where they dont even have a tier X on said account where max tier is tier 7 so the player is purely there to boost since he wont play..like atleast dont be that blatant
burnt glacier
Bruh...Imagine if someone decide to do 3 100% acc and 7 players who will be online surly
crimson island
@bronze girder uprising
strange spruce
@bronze girder but u canāt be sure that he has got only tier 6, if u play only tournaments. Our guy for example has got 3 tier 10
tribal skiff
The game will physically not let you join a tournament if you donāt have a tank of the required tier(s)
crimson island
200iq
shadow topaz
@crimson island quiet
thorn shale
The game lets u join a team and getting into the tourney room but the game doesnt let u press āreadyā button @tribal skiff
analog osprey
50% teams go create some rerolles I want fight versus u
random swift
xD
bronze girder
guess rexy didnt reply so 100% abuse continues
poland wins
thorn shale
@thorn shale no it doesnāt you need a t10 vehicle. Which means they got a collector
warped patrol
ez
candid pike
Today is fun ššš
crimson island
š¦
sonic iron
Okej
surreal hinge
We weren't asked to stream the off season championship, but some streamers did stream it all the same, at least for EU and Asia. As for the Prove your Skill - that's being streamed by a whole bunch of people.
For EU you've got me, R1B, Fugit, 3very, Wildones.
For NA you've got Fishy, iNeear, PapaRage and potentially Droodles, but he's not given any links yet.
And for Asia you've got Fugit and Wildones
@leaden belfry alright, sounds good. And thanks for giving an official response!
thorn shale
Why people who never won anything cry about win rate the most. Even 100% wouldnāt help you get it? I mean 60% teams could reroll so we can play vs them
proud holly
It's because looking at career win rate is a terrible indicator for deciding which teams should get a wild card as it completely disregards their actual tournament performance. You don't have to throw petty jabs at people who are voicing these concerns just because of your own complacence.
thorn shale
36 teams registered so far in EU.... wow
analog osprey
@thorn shale u will understand when u will be in a clan with objectif to be top8 and no winning the tournament
crisp shore
It will be funny if we have far fewer teams than Summer Off-season Championship
bronze girder
39 teams with one hour left and agree with booska
obsidian vine
Bruh is NA gonna have more teams registered then EU??
thick coyote
meanwhile asia: FEAST , CATS , FEAST, CATS etc...
thorn shale
I also dont understand why theres no Challengers this year. It helped a lot weaker teams
frigid aurora
It's because looking at career win rate is a terrible indicator for deciding which teams should get a wild card as it completely disregards their actual tournament performance. You don't have to throw petty jabs at people who are voicing these concerns just because of your own complacence.
And at the end of the day these high win rate teams will face EG, LOCA, RA1D and LGN and will enjoy their vacation to the list of people koed from the tournament. I donāt think anybody from top clans really cares cause if ur heading for top1 u wonāt even consider rerollersā existence and will just get rid of them late stages same as from every other team not fitting in top4, where the main competition escalates. I honestly donāt see a point for inexperienced players like u to care when u arent going any further than top 8 and even increasing rewards for participation doesnāt make sense cus playing for additional 500k credits is the same as playing the gameāfor pleasureā when u canāt achieve anything.
vital obsidian
Removing challenger removed broad interest for tour
glass thunder
5th team with 100% wr account yay
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/722187518665293865/750390350715289701/Screenshot_2020-09-01-18-22-56.png?width=1040&height=585
analog osprey
Xddd
burnt glacier
May be WG will make smth with this 300 IQ boys who just f them seeding system
bronze girder
oof not krks ! š¢
forest matrix
Told it earlier Since one year I wrote on this channel how the system was flawed. I saw last spring team like lxn souls and immor abusing no one caring as well. Now we enter the stupid game. Besides this 100w We have 0 reroll in team btw which is still an exception
burnt glacier
In another case I will create 3 accounts ''Seeding system1'' (and so on) into my team. At least it will be not only me
thorn shale
Bruh the EU wr for the seeding is so high. No wonder so many teams abuse the system...
bronze girder
tbh why not if everyone is doing it, I want to make full 100% team
@vital obsidian it will have an impact since the teams using it can decide if a team enters top 8 or not
forest matrix
Everyone focuses on the 100% because it is a meme but one should better look after 1 to 5k batlles accounts that populate up to 80% of the best seeded teams.
vital obsidian
Its pointless discuss 100% wr with this low number of teams in competition it will have low or no impact
thorn shale
Everyone focuses on the 100% because it is a meme but one should better look after 1 to 5k batlles accounts that populate up to 80% of the best seeded teams.
@forest matrix omg xD
burnt glacier
@bronze girder need tanks I guess for play tournament š
crisp shore
It will not be fun when you are talking about the low number of teams that leads to some top 8 candidates knocked out of first stage quarterfinals, and then teams that can get top 4 in the first stage will get a lot of cups on the next day
forest matrix
Its pointless discuss 100% wr with this low number of teams in competition it will have low or no impact
@vital obsidian I believe the exact opposite. The less team u have the more chance u have to face a strong team early in competition. LXN has gained during last spring 3 to 4 seeding spots by aligning a 100% during 2nd tourney switching from top tier opponents to 3rd tier in 1/4 final (ticket threshold)
vital obsidian
hmm mby
analog osprey
2nd immor team during the spring season šØ
thorn shale
whast wrong about that? @analog osprey xD?
analog osprey
@thorn shale rerolles team
thorn shale
well, they want to play, I didnt asked them to play
glass thunder
2nd immor team during the spring season šØ
@analog osprey we had one immor last spring this season we have 5 immor's xd
forest matrix
and so according to the strongest-weakest algorithm the best EU team of the moment is MERCY (clan with basically 0 competition record but 8 rerolls including one 100%)
inland solstice
@analog osprey we had one immor last spring this season we have 5 immor's xd
@glass thunder šš
analog osprey
@thorn shale spring season chouchou not this one from na server
glass thunder
and so according to the strongest-weakest algorithm the best EU team of the moment is MERCY (clan with basically 0 competition record but 8 rerolls including one 100%)
@forest matrix just use another 100% wr account and you become the strongest team in eu for wg system
bronze girder
i heard spynix is clanless
forest matrix
anybody can be the strongest - actually the biggest challenge is to be the weakest
gentle sierra
say what now
analog osprey
Spynix join me hermano
crisp shore
MERCY (clan with basically 0 competition record but 8 rerolls including one 100%)
@forest matrix No they actually did play in a lot of Russian-speaking communuity tournaments, but.... let's not go into that š
swift turtle
and so according to the strongest-weakest algorithm the best EU team of the moment is MERCY (clan with basically 0 competition record but 8 rerolls including one 100%)
@forest matrix they also have several players from russian serverš
thorn shale
Helo tournament register clan pls clan name MKH-E thank you XI-X
bronze girder
š registered
eternal flume
MERCY just transferred accounts to non eu community players and still not get ban
thick coyote
because russian bias
strange spruce
@eternal flume what do u mean by transferred?)
slim creek
@swift turtle @eternal flume read the regulations and remember only 2 players from the Cis region can play
frozen schooner
@slim creek reaad the regulations and remind me, how are you going to play with min 4 players from RU server?)
strange spruce
@frozen schooner read massages above
slim creek
After tournament wg check all players ip. what's the problem? how many more annhm players will gossip?
glass thunder
MERCY just transferred accounts to non eu community players and still not get ban
@eternal flume i don't think they did that everyone playing on his account and most of them lives in EU so they are fine
frozen schooner
@glass thunder They did, believe me, Didi, as I believe in 7T
eternal flume
@eternal flume i don't think they did that everyone playing on his account and most of them lives in EU so they are fine
@glass thunder exactly baddy you think and I know
glass thunder
@glass thunder They did, believe me, Didi, as I believe in 7T
@frozen schooner maybe man i just know few players from them
frozen schooner
@glass thunder I know more than few and I know what they are trying to do
Making us fools and try to sneak in top-8, coz on Ru they are getting rekt and here they are too low on skill to compete against top tier clans with their own power
obsidian vine
?
proud holly
And at the end of the day these high win rate teams will face EG, LOCA, RA1D and LGN and will enjoy their vacation to the list of people koed from the tournament. I donāt think anybody from top clans really cares cause if ur heading for top1 u wonāt even consider rerollersā existence and will just get rid of them late stages same as from every other team not fitting in top4, where the main competition escalates. I honestly donāt see a point for inexperienced players like u to care when u arent going any further than top 8 and even increasing rewards for participation doesnāt make sense cus playing for additional 500k credits is the same as playing the gameāfor pleasureā when u canāt achieve anything.
I don't see a point in you and your high chair to care about the "inexperienced players" when you've already looped up anybody who has a concern about prospective teams being blocked out in favor of reroll accounts. Maybe the reroll accounts won't make Top 8 but the teams that had better tournament performances despite getting knocked might actually will if they were given the chance.
burnt glacier
@chilly terrace Will you check players who use VPN to change IP from CIS to EU? And how fast will u bring some sanctions to such players?At least my question is do you check devices and so on.
UPD: Asking cause I know team that probably use such system not for myselfš
strange spruce
@frozen schooner @eternal flume @burnt glacier @swift turtle Firstly, the game is not prohibited from playing on two servers at the same time. Secondly, as I said before, you can participate in āProve your skillā tournaments from any country. Thirdly, we have 6 players living in Europe. And at the end, if we enter the top 8, which I doubt very much, we will solve the problem with the remaining players from outside Europe. We just want to play and prove our skill, that is it. Donāt slander us and let us play fair without spending a lot of time for discussing the same topic. If my memory serves me, then you decided to disperse among different teams, rather than try hard with a team and prove that you are capable of getting into the top 8 best teams. This is your decision, my team does not discuss and blame you. So please, letās close this topic, letās respect each other.
burnt glacier
@strange spruce what for you tag me?))Didn't answer you,bro
surreal hinge
fast hareBOT
Wojciesz#3398 has been warned.
thorn shale
Stop with the emoji spam please
frigid aurora
I don't see a point in you and your high chair to care about the "inexperienced players" when you've already looped up anybody who has a concern about prospective teams being blocked out in favor of reroll accounts. Maybe the reroll accounts won't make Top 8 but the teams that had better tournament performances despite getting knocked might actually will if they were given the chance.
exactly, i do not care about inexperienced players. they are inexperienced for a reason because they donāt understand how this game works and some of them even try to pretend like itās exactly the opposite. And inexperienced players donāt achieve anything in competitive part of the game. Win rate of a team does not affect anything except for having a higher chance of qualifying for top-8. if u r in a top level team, u literally donāt care. if u r a āprospective teamā then u could care, but it rather sounds like worthless excuses, because u do not get ur chances decreased in the previous stages, as the opponents u get before fighting vs those rerollers (who got a free pass straight to quarter-finals or wherever ahead) are weaker than in the following stages, logically. Then go and defeat this reroll team. Elimination is called so for a reason. Nobody cares what group u got. If ur worth it - u will pass through. if youāre not - you will be knocked out. works as well in top 8 as it does in any other ranking
upd: and if someoneās chair is higher than yours, then even if that person throws a āpetty jabā at someone, he is justified to do so by his experience, consider it or ignore it, either way better than trying to be sassy or blindly stubborn to reject the obvious. that is a way to make improvements
sinful crest
This question may have been answered before but, Is there any reason why specs for autumn arenāt a thing but specs for the off season were?
half urchin
cause a spec gives you advantage. in off-season no one cares, cause its not that important, more for fun. now its a "serious" tournament with bigger prize pool @sinful crest
sinful crest
Ahhh I see, thanks for answering @half urchin
crimson island
š¦
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace Will you check players who use VPN to change IP from CIS to EU? And how fast will u bring some sanctions to such players?At least my question is do you check devices and so on.
UPD: Asking cause I know team that probably use such system not for myselfš
@burnt glacier As I said before, we don't share how and when we will check regions where players from. Moreover, there is not any prohibition to participate in Prove your skill! tournaments from other regions.
thick coyote
Thanks for new tourney for tournament coins , will be usefull and new clans can improve ( like mine)
burnt glacier
@chilly terrace Then what about sharing accounts? Will it be the same date of checking (after ending of tournament).Do you let team, that making such violation of rules, play in TOP-8? And second question is... If account was shared from real owner of it to third parties 2 years ago, for example, will you find out it now or you are checking sharing only during the period of participation in the tournament?
alpine adder
@chilly terrace The log in issues with the Asia server are still present. Plus the progress of many players on the Asia server from the past 2 days has been reset. Thatās apart from the crashes and the lag.
Will the tournament today still happen.
Also, If I use a VPN to log into my account (as I understand, it doesnāt change my IP address and only my location). This helps me get a stable ping and connection to the game which otherwise I canāt get. Is this allowed in The prove your skill and professional tournaments? I am aware it shows that I have logged in from another country even if I havenāt.
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace Then what about sharing accounts? Will it be the same date of checking (after ending of tournament).Do you let team, that making such violation of rules, play in TOP-8? And second question is... If account was shared from real owner of it to third parties 2 years ago, for example, will you find out it now or you are checking sharing only during the period of participation in the tournament?
@burnt glacier
As I said, we don't share any details.
thick coyote
todays progress got reset again.. wth
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace The log in issues with the Asia server are still present. Plus the progress of many players on the Asia server from the past 2 days has been reset. Thatās apart from the crashes and the lag.
Will the tournament today still happen.Also, If I use a VPN to log into my account (as I understand, it doesnāt change my IP address and only my location). This helps me get a stable ping and connection to the game which otherwise I canāt get. Is this allowed in The prove your skill and professional tournaments? I am aware it shows that I have logged in from another country even if I havenāt.
@alpine adder
If we move or cancel tournament, we'll let know about it here.
I won't answer this question because it opens details. Don't break the rules and you won't be punished.
alpine adder
Okay, thank you
ornate agate
Will the realistic tournaments return?
chilly terrace
Will the realistic tournaments return?
@ornate agate If so, it won't happen soon.
ornate agate
Ok Thanks.
thorn shale
can you stop resetting everything ?
thick coyote
well they are working on it but it happened for 2nd time and we have to grind things again, @ornate agate we all would , but we also want to grind things in uprising
ornate agate
I would avoid playing until it has been fixed just to avoid extra frustration
crisp shore
@alpine adder Preferably if you are worried about getting blocked, you might want to do a video recording of you switching to a VPN, as well as details to prove that the VPN belongs to yours. You don't need to worry about getting banned and I think Wargaming will not be THAT unreasonable to ban your account for a few days, because that will cause an uproar.
EDIT: If you purchased the VPN, you should show them your receipt for that. If the VPN provider does give you details that bear your name in the transaction, that will also help.
EDIT 2: Besides, you can inform Wargaming that you are switching to a VPN when playing tournaments, which I think Rexy has known already, and Wargaming has said some days ago that VPN is allowed if I remember correctly.
alpine adder
I know theyāre not unreasonable like that. No doubt there, and I can do the recording, what other information should I save? I donāt know much about VPNs in that sense. Thanks for the answer though
Okay, Iāll try getting that info. I know VPNs are allowed since there was nothing against them in the rules but I remember Frozenn from ID having issues with that so I thought Iād ask first.
Either way, thanks.
leaden belfry
@chilly terrace any news about Asia server's tournament today? Technically it's supposed to start in an hour, but by the looks of it, things are unlikely to be resolved that soon, I reckon š¬
crisp shore
I am able to log into Asia server
EDIT: Arguably VPN can be a violation of 2.1.1 clause because WG can argue it gives you unfair advantage over connection š¤£
carmine solstice
I think we should play. Yes thereās lag, yes itās not ideal with a few other issues. We just need to get going because the loading issue doesnāt seem to be happening today (only a small number of people have reported it as far I know) and postponing or cancelling is just irritating
thick coyote
yes but resetting is irritating ,
dim pivot
Its not irritating if its postponed before it starts, it's irritating when i waste 1 hr yesterday just for tournament to cancel
leaden belfry
^ that. And not to mention that I doubt the roominvites and all will go smoothly when stuff keeps resetting
alpine adder
I think we should play too. The log in issue doesnāt seem to be as prevalent as yesterday. If the tournament is doable we should go ahead with itā¦some people had to cancel appointments for it and Iād rather that not go to waste xD
Besides, with how things are I donāt expect it to get better even by the next ascent. Especially not the lag and delay issues. Rather just get on with it.
Though If too many people report issues then itās understandable that itāll have to be canceled.
carmine solstice
Yesterday was postponed mid tour because there were so many issues and it was so extensive. Let the tour play out, if itās a similar scenario, cancel/postpone :/
crisp shore
If there is a similar scenario, I would prefer the tournament to be cancelled immediately, or announce a postponement asap
sweet flax
there is literally no point postponing again today. Might as well cancel if postponing is the option
crisp shore
Currently no issues for me, I might play one match to see if it is doing anything strange.
slate lark
Is anyone streaming the Asia tourney today?
ornate agate
Odd question, why donāt you do any 3/4 tournaments?
dim pivot
Bcuz it'd be embarrassing to see tier 4s getting beaten by ke ni otsu? Just a small reason among other things
thick coyote
matilda gang
carmine solstice
Bcuz it'd be embarrassing to see tier 4s getting beaten by ke ni otsu? Just a small reason among other things
@dim pivot Just get gud xx
crisp shore
@slate lark Technically no but Fugit still has the stream scheduled for today. I, however, will be streaming tomorrow on Asia server.
leaden belfry
Your streams for EU today:
Amaunet85 - [ZNTH] Reeeeee vs. [KORPI] Korpi, then all matches of [LGN] Legion until they will win or be knocked out. reward stream
portal: https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/357/description/ youtube: https://youtu.be/k7CHigweDzk
Wildoneshelper - [VE1L] VIVAVE1L vs. [-W1N-] W1NSK, then all matches of [LC-] Lost Control until they will win or be knocked out.
youtube: https://youtu.be/tVmTVGkneFU
3very_Good_Name_Is_Taken - [FEN1X] FEN1X vs. [R3TI] R3TI, then all matches of [EG-] Hey lol until they will win or be knocked out.
youtube: https://youtu.be/9oFZipzKKhs
Fugit555 - [ELEM] ELEMENTS vs. [DEMOH] DEMOH, then all matches of [LOCA] WeSmart ok until they will win or be knocked out.
youtube: https://youtu.be/D4KOnTRus-w
RA1D_R1B_ - [ELEM] ELEMENTS vs. [DEMOH] DEMOH, then all matches of [RA1D] RA1D until they will win or be knocked out.
No link available atm
thorn shale
ok
last cloud
Is it possible to put spectators into the tournament team on Thursday? Asking because sometimes it doesn't work and sometimes it works š
analog osprey
Lol
pastel tartan
it in only does in quick tours
last cloud
Oof, ok. Never mind š Thx
chilly terrace
it in only does in quick tours
@pastel tartan It works in "Season coins" tournaments as well
pastel tartan
ah okay,didnt know as i didnt play them
red vapor
I like the new cup distribution for autumn season š
proud holly
Black and White
crisp shore
Blanco White
pale finch
Yes.
upbeat iris
kind hamlet
Honestly, seeing these coins I think that they are a great opportunity to add in reward tanks from pc, but you get them with the coins instead of having to complete missions. Thoughts?
thick coyote
@kind hamlet yes but not everyone has time for tours but if we were able to get them through ratings it would be better
kind hamlet
I think that that's a good idea, probably better than mine (and I hate the grammatically correct that that).
upbeat iris
Cw reward tanks would motivate people to play Cw though
last cloud
@pastel tartan It works in "Season coins" tournaments as well
@chilly terrace
Yeay, nice. š
crisp shore
CW reward tank: Obj 252Uš¤
pastel tartan
no,lets add super hellcat
inner ice
I have an NA account but i live in Europe so tournaments start at 3 am :"u
thorn shale
Ngl EU comp tanks are weird. From a NA point of view, E6 and other tanks just seem so odd
pale finch
E6? Iāve never seen anyone play the E6 lol
odd basalt
hidden meta tank ofc
pastel tartan
someone just did in eg vs souls xd
frigid aurora
@chilly terrace exactly as I told you. today vs one of the strongest eu teams currently my game crashed 2 times during a push. replays due to this bug havenāt been saved, i have 1 out of 3 recorded. but on stream itās clearly visible. u probably donāt understand what it means for a medium driver to crash and be useless for 45 seconds of the most game changing moment losing around 3k potential damage input but itās ok. last time u told me itās a ātechnical issueā and is not related to tournaments. out of 3 quarterfinal games i crashed in 2 and we were 6v7. i do not think that current game issues represent the tournament policy of wargaming of āfair playā and rather turns it into roulette of who crashed and who doesnāt and iām pretty sure u have to do something with this issue because otherwise entire competitive part of this game turns irrelevant for this entire update which the developer is never able to release without bugs.
wicked snow
Ed crashed vs u as well
pastel tartan
winch crashed too first 2 or 3min, full maus gone
pale finch
A bit tragic how the game isnt working as intended when there are big tournaments and its not even related to old devices, i know for a fact that edgar bought a new ipad 1-2 months ago and here you go, major games being won and lost due to lags and it will happen more in this tournament if the issue is not solved sad but true, multiple teams may suffer from this.
wooden temple
Yikes :/
jade spoke
there should be a thing where if game crashes for internet or devices related issue, tanks should stop at the spot rather than keep going forward. I know that current issue is not related to internet or device.
devout lily
Well WG should do a open test server for everyone so they can get rid of these bugs before it will go on the live server like they do on the pc version....
crimson island
š¦
frigid aurora
whatās the point of well-organized tournaments when the game bugs are trash, i donāt get it. if u canāt do something - donāt do it before u know it will work well, as intended, without issues. itās simpliest responsibility for comfort of people who use ur product
narrow tiger
I have got a same problem on brand new ipad mini 5, it crashed today in ours match against fen1x, fortunately in maybe best possible situation... btw. I have reported this bug on support 2nd day the update was released and I also pointed out that it will be problem for tournament season. Still not fixed though and yet it is causing trouble.
pale finch
Yep as I said itās not related to devices, I know people with new devices who are crashing in tournaments too as I said
proud holly
these servers be wild ooooooooo
wooden temple
Someone from EG crashed mid fight i think
balmy ocean
nice so almost every team has crashes during tournament, and its still not fixed
IMO tournament should be put on hold until this is COMPLETELY FIXED
Its simply unacceptable to have crashes almost every match from someone (and its not an uncommon issue, as u can see from the replies above)
crisp shore
these servers be wild ooooooooo
@proud holly š
analog osprey
Like us 2 players in one game vs alert and 1 player vs Apa. Lucky it didnāt make much difference
uneven dust
whoopz crash made the biggest difference on Dynasty, he crashed into 3 e5s and 1 t22
analog osprey
Anyways the most important thing is the health
pastel tartan
i think winch's crash was bigger, maus into the open over 4 tanks dying instantly in min 3
3k hp gone for nothing
gentle sierra
oh well , its not really a wg tournament if everything runs smoothly , is it
frigid aurora
i crashed when i needed to farm the meds, and i lost 1200 hp in T-22. totally not game-changing. simply trash. absolute trash.
pale finch
I mean any crash it too big to happen, there should be 0 doesnāt matter if itās decisive for the game or not itās still disgusting
balmy ocean
yea i guess this tourney just gonna be won by "whoever crashes the least" or in the least important moments š¤£
patent quartz
unfortunate truth
hard glacier
I crashed (eg) in the complete start of the battle, but came back after 20s, so it wasn't big problem for me. Not counting winch, our one player crashed in this one battle too, but fortunately his tank drove back. ^^ how to lose not so hard game.
pastel tartan
ah so i was right with that t22 being crashed
narrow meteor
@leaden belfry whos all streaming on NA tonight?
near anvil
Fishy, iNeear, PapaRage
leaden belfry
The game is definitely not stable, I had a floating Whoopz at some point as well, as streamer š¤
But yeah, there seem to be -so- many issues atm
crude hull
I crashed with a new ipad air, just sayin..
leaden belfry
With Asia server all but collapsing, crashes like this in EU, not very promising >.>
hardy prairie
Stability has never been a strong suit of this game since 2018... working as intended jajaja
thorn shale
What will be WG answer to all this...? Will they accept its their error or will they blame our connections?
leaden belfry
ngl, when WG is still convinced it's people's issues when 14 people are lagging out at once, I've little hope they'll claim it's them
analog osprey
@crude hull every iPad u crash š
hard glacier
Funny, all of those players have good connection, but they crash within same 2 hours when tourney is played. Interesting, I'd say that was players fault
crude hull
@analog osprey the thing is with new ipad I was able to start up the game again in less than 20 seconds xd
leaden belfry
@narrow meteor
NA:
Fishy___ - [V] Speedclipse vs. [BETTA] Blazar, then all matches of [GMA] Divinity until they will win or be knocked out.
PapaRage - all matches of [V] Speedclipse until they will win or be knocked out.
iNeear - [ISHTR] 6 out of 10 vs. [-SLG] Shotacon, then all matches of [RGN] RGN until they will win or be knocked out.
PapaRage streams in Spanish
gentle sierra
totally on our side wdym , we all live on the same country , same neighborhood and are using the same internet provider
leaden belfry
and I've no idea who iNeear is
near anvil
iNeear is latam as well
narrow meteor
hispanic fellow
leaden belfry
ahh oki
pastel tartan
Funny, all of those players have good connection, but they crash within same 2 hours when tourney is played. Interesting, I'd say that was players fault
@hard glacier well u had 3 different ppl crashing in the 2nd naval game, pLs FiX yOuR dEvIcEs AnD cOnNeCtIoNs
hardy prairie
@leaden belfry do u know who's NA stream will be on the portal? Thanks @pastel tartan
pastel tartan
@hardy prairie its fishy (just checked)
near anvil
Thereās also been issues with rubberbanding and such on NA, itās not just limited to EU
crisp shore
God I must write an apology letter after jinxing so hard...
narrow tiger
@analog osprey the thing is with new ipad I was able to start up the game again in less than 20 seconds xd
@crude hull Yep, same in my situation and for me it crashed at the start of the battle in safe position.
glass thunder
we got some loss problems when discord was fine
burnt glacier
Yeah I have loss too with fine net
slim creek
I (mercy) crashed with a new iPad Pro 2020 and have loss 2-4%
inland solstice
my net is good, had some loss... i assumed it was my device... apparently not...
gentle sierra
@inland solstice your fault dont complain aight
pale finch
Yeah, we should all apologize for having bad internet/devices and ruining the tournament experience by lagging or crashing mid game
inland solstice
@gentle sierra yes i should invest in an xiaomi like u did, it would outperform an iphone xs with perfect internet which creates loss out of nowhere im sure kek
gentle sierra
Improvise, adapt , overcome
sonic iron
Meh
burnt glacier
@gentle sierra you r right
bronze girder
@gentle sierra you are right u are so smart, we are so lucky to read your opinion here :>
shadow topaz
Meh
inland solstice
#BaronForPope
steep prawn
WG managed to add more rng to the game smh
bronze girder
see it as a feature
fossil rivet
@gentle sierra how can I be so clever like you?
last stratus
@gentle sierra sensational thinking
burnt glacier
Crashing is also feature
bronze girder
Crashing is also feature
@burnt glacier adds more suspense to the game
also @gentle sierra im blown away by your genius
serene crystal
50k to the team with fewest crashes seems fair enough tbh, no issues there
inland solstice
@gentle sierra thank u for blessing us all with your knowledge, wish i could be like u
gentle sierra
Can u not tag me , thx
wintry hound
Just don't crash
bronze girder
guys perhaps bekon has a genius solution for this
inland solstice
even baron, the pinnacle of genius, cant improve wg specialists... that is impossible
glass thunder
#Baron4mod
fossil rivet
@gentle sierra impeccable thinking, I really am in awe of you
analog osprey
rotund onyx
ok
wicked snow
Who is streaming NA tonight ?
chilly hemlock
Fishy, papa, ineear
slim socket
is iNeear streaming? i don't see anything on his youtube
hardy prairie
iNeear is not live... he's MIA tonight afaik
thorn shale
Why were the final matches not streamed?
sinful crest
@thorn shale the streamers who were streaming the teams, for example my team we got knocked out meaning fishy couldnāt stream no more. Same thing happened for Void.
flat goblet
^
Unfortunately, for these tournaments we get attached to teams, not to brackets, so when the team we are following gets eliminated, so do we.
thorn shale
The technology for attaching streamers to brackets not teams hasn't been invented yet š
flat goblet
It definitely exists (thatās how final stages are streamed). The issue is the timing. The way the backend works for WG, brackets are basically created at the end of registration. This means that for regions where WGās time zone is an issue, streamers canāt feasibly be set to brackets. Instead, theyāre set to teams, since there are teams that register a good time before registration ends. At least thatās how I used to see it. I donāt know how todayās was set since I did not get attached to betta or speed š¤
thorn shale
Yes this game is sometimes completely freezing on iPads and the only way to fix it is reopening your game. If u have fast device itās only 10s lost, but I guess some people lose 30s. Why donāt you put the tournament off until you fix it. Literally more rng now, since crashes happen once in 20 battles.
proud holly
They can do that for future tournaments but i don't think its feasible to just do a hard stop on the tourny that ur in the middle of
flat goblet
My game crashed mid stream, luckily it wasnāt during a tournament game š
untold tinsel
I donāt see a reason why streamers with granted streaming permissions canāt actually stream a team without actually being set to a team to stream
hardy prairie
Itās definitely to do with their system. Iām sure WG wouldnāt want to miss out on the highest profile battle of the tournament. They canāt just hop around because they have to be invited to the battles they are streaming, same as the participants. I would like to see this changed somehow. I also noticed no team in the bottom half of the bracket was being followed
leaden belfry
the issue is as Fishy explained. Because registration closes so late and brackets are created so late because of that, it'd mean WG'd have to log on out of office hours in order to attach us manually. In case of NA, the tournament starts at 4am their time š¬ So they just don't do that. That's always been the case with qualifiers. They know we want to stream them, so they let us, but that's the price for it, so to speak
This was the first time they asked us if we wanted to stream the qualifiers (knowing that we do), rather than us asking them if we can, mind
WG is mainly interested in seeing the Professionals and finals being streamed, and that's also the part where the matchings are known beforehand so where we're attached to a whole match-up or bracket rather than a team
crimson island
š¦
thorn shale
the issue is as Fishy explained. Because registration closes so late and brackets are created so late because of that, it'd mean WG'd have to log on out of office hours in order to attach us manually. In case of NA, the tournament starts at 4am their time š¬ So they just don't do that. That's always been the case with qualifiers. They know we want to stream them, so they let us, but that's the price for it, so to speak
@leaden belfry I mean who really needs sleep right š¤ cuz I always stay up til 3AM+ and wake up at 9am š
leaden belfry
ahaha š
serene garnet
Hi
light jasper
@thorn shale oh god I have that exact problem. But at least I can get back in real quick
gleaming pollen
my game also crashed on tuesday when we played against Souls. But what would I say to that is at least it is fair since it is happening to almost everyone
inland solstice
@gentle sierra more wise words please, share your infinite knowledge
main belfry
Lmao even 50K$ winning pool can't make tournaments playable when servers are this bad. Instead of giving away 50K to the team who has the most luck to not Crash, rather spent some money on fixing the problems. Teams should be happy with fixed servers and lower winning price (f.e. 20K) aswell if that means its at least playable without crashing.
oak scroll
carmine solstice
@chilly terrace The Asia server is screwed right now. I'm in a ascent finals match and no one can shoot with the lag. Honestly should be cancelled right now
alpine adder
@chilly terrace cancel the tournament please, the Asia server is frankly dead, I will send you a recording after the tour is over but this is completely unacceptable that you guys are letting this tournament continue under these conditions.
carmine solstice
Gg WG. Nice job beating us
13 IS4ās purely because every single person has the lag issues so now you canāt pull the classic āweāve checked the logs and thereās no issueā
crisp shore
I was wondering why -RN- bounces and misses a lot of shells
alpine adder
This is but a glimpse of what was an effectively horrendous tournament. Tanks were teleporting everywhere and it was impossible to hit most shots, I alone missed out on over 2K of potential damage. My shots were on target but the tank teleported every time I fired. This is supposed to be the biggest tournament of the year and you guys canāt even do this right. Cancel this tournament or at least the second stage.
@lime glen @chilly terrace
@crisp shore
Watch that replay if you didnāt. It was literally impossible to connect shots.
People take time out of their lives to practice, plan and play this tournament. But this incompetence has turned it into a waste of time and a joke. Its literally just RNG and Lag instead of skill at play. How is this fair to anyone?
crisp shore
The lag and the big number of misses and bounces is simply very hard to watch as a spectator as well. Wargaming needs to figure out the problem asap because they have become the reason why teams lose.
chilly terrace
@alpine adder @carmine solstice next matches won't be played. We are thinking of moving these matches.
eager jacinth
Honestly I don't wanna sound like a cry baby but what happened today was stupid af,ur biggest tournament of the year is nothing but a big joke.people disconnecting in games,tanks teleporting all around,ping and packet loss, people unable to login and yet after literally everyone complaining WITH proof about the problems what we do we get "oh we checked our server logs ITS UR INTERNET". players be spending hours to train and make strat just to lose cuz of stupid servers. It's not prove ur skills anymore it has turn to "prove ur ping" period
silver vapor
Hmmmm... not everyone is lagging?
Also @chilly terrace spectator?
carmine solstice
4/14, 4/12, 4/11, 1/11, 2/10, 2/7, 2/5 = 19/70 shots hit (not neccessarily penned) from my team in one particular game
alpine adder
If thatās the case then either cancel or give us a rematch of the all the battles today. Lag was a major reason for the loss today.
@thorn shale bruh why insults. Go away.
chilly terrace
Hmmmm... not everyone is lagging?
Also @chilly terrace spectator?
@silver vapor I received the confirmation that there were technical issues, so results will be cancelled.
crisp shore
Will EU server be investigated as well? Several players had game crashes mid-game. @chilly terrace
dim pivot
Another day wasted, nice
chilly terrace
If thatās the case then either cancel or give us a rematch of the all the battles today. Lag was a major reason for the loss today.
@thorn shale bruh why insults. Go away.
@alpine adder We are discussing possible ways right now. We need to understand what the problem is and how fast we can solve it.
eager aurora
what...a...waste...of...time... š
eager jacinth
Instead of keep postponing and wasting time of teams, just try to look for a solution
chilly terrace
Will EU server be investigated as well? Several players had game crashes mid-game. @chilly terrace
@crisp shore It's not server troubles, we are aware of it and also investigating right now.
tepid sun
Can you confirm there will be no more games today for asia ? @chilly terrace
alpine adder
Thanks for the response rexy.
My personal opinion would be to carry the results of the first stage into the second ascent tour and cancel the second stage altogether. But I agree that todayās results shouldnāt be counted. If it canāt be canceled, all the battles need to be redone. But thatās just my opinion.
Beyond that, you guys know better. Hopefully thereās a solution soon that everyone is happy with.
split cosmos
Restart again?? Kidding me
broken sedge
Ya
desert anvil
Really?
dense delta
wtf?
crisp shore
@chilly terrace Will the affected EU teams be compensated by cups?
@alpine adder I prefer cancelling the entire series because it happened yesterday as well. 7 is enough imo
silver vapor
I like how none of my teammates said anything about their tanks flying or lagging and this is when wargaming said there is server issue? And when weāre facing lagging and actually tanks teleporting wargaming says otherwise. Lmao. Itās always reverse of the actual situation and a waste of time fighting right now.
thorn shale
Amazing wargaming
carmine solstice
I like how none of my teammates said anything about their tanks flying or lagging and this is when wargaming said there is server issue? And when weāre facing lagging and actually tanks teleporting wargaming says otherwise. Lmao. Itās always reverse of the actual situation and a waste of time fighting right now.
@silver vapor Yeah but you've complained on here too about the same issue in the past when my team hasn't had issues either. I get it's super irritating for anyone the issue didn't affect but it did for cats, hlv and RN according to wild
split cosmos
Do not restart again just keep going ššš
We need to fix the next game. It's not good to cut in and play the game. We need to know we have 7 games left.
alpine adder
nobody is happy about it. Itās been a waste of time for all of us but itās hard to just agree to the results when so much hard work and time is simply wasted and someone unfairly ends up at the top due to something out of their control. I already warned about this and now you see the results of it.
@crisp shore not a bad idea either but Iām not sure if everyone will be happy with that.
@silver vapor Yeah. Which is why you should be supportive that for once there is action.. None of the teams spoke against you either when you had the issue. I donāt see why it should be ignored this time. You would understand better than anyone how disheartening it feels my guy
crisp shore
@crisp shore not a bad idea either but Iām not sure if everyone will be happy with that.
@alpine adder It could only be fair for every team because I suppose some teams during QF yesterday also experienced same problem.
bronze estuary
NO tour
NO WG
thorn shale
No more restart
fierce orbit
The server is so unstable that the tournament cannot proceed normally, and it is not polite to users who played under the unfavorable conditions.
crisp shore
Or is it not that yesterday clans had issues? I couldn't really recall tbf
alpine adder
I honestly wouldnāt mind. My team is experiencing it today along with HLV and RN. Some teams had it yesterday. Some teams had it the first day. Someone will have it the next time. It obviously makes the teams that ended up winning unhappy but itās fair that way.
Especially the ID boys, Ik you guys won and won fairly too. But all the other teams were facing issues today. It would be unfair to just carry on.
broken sedge
Our first game was normal
Second game had severe lag both teams
And the third game both teams had to do this coz of lag
eager aurora
rather just cancel it to begin with yesterday and just add another set in later dates, so much pain just for this
split cosmos
Where's our tough battle? At least you'll have to reflect the results and start over.
dense delta
We are not your slaves.
I want compensation for wasted time.
dim pivot
We are not your slaves.
I want compensation for wasted time.
+1
carmine solstice
^
alpine adder
Our time was wasted too. Just as bad as yours. ^
+1
thorn shale
We are not your slaves.
I want compensation for wasted time.
+1
silver vapor
@chilly terrace I beg you, cancel every tournament from now on until you guys fixed the server. no one here is ready to put in all the time just to have all the results voided 70% of the time because a certain team or 2 are lagging or not. I've got tons better things to do than providing free gameplay footage for everyone in Asia server that serves no purpose to us.
crisp shore
As I said, 7 series is good enough to determine the top 8 for Asia, given the number of teams is not a lot there. I agree that all matches should be cancelled until the technical issues are fixed.
dense delta
Rematch for what?
If you don't have the ability to proceed with the tournament, stop right now.
This doesn't help players at all.
split cosmos
Wargaming must know that there is a lot of time, but people's power is limited bro
bronze estuary
We are not your slaves.
I want compensation for wasted time.
+1
alpine adder
In that sense I agree, just cancel it and do the next one. But Iām afraid this wonāt even be fixed in the next tournament. People get tired of this and eventually some will just quit.
I beg you, cancel every tournament from now on until you guys fixed the server. no one here is ready to put in all the time just to have all the results voided 70% of the time because a certain team or 2 are lagging or not. I've got tons better things to do than providing free gameplay footage for everyone in Asia server that serves no purpose to us.
To this I can agree.
carmine solstice
It's only fair that we get assurance of a normal game experience before anyone even registers for another ascent. It's not fair at all. p.s gl to everyone asking for compo. We all still waiting for that from the reset XD
glass bramble
WG please
dim pivot
It's only fair that we get assurance of a normal game experience before anyone even registers for another ascent. It's not fair at all. p.s gl to everyone asking for compo. We all still waiting for that from the reset XD
@carmine solstice lmao i forgot abt the reset, need compensation from that too
Good reminder
glass thunder
so asian server got lags like eu
on eu wasn't that big lags but it can cost you some shots
alpine adder
When you grind two entire lines from scratch for prof tour and WG resets it bruhMoment
@silver vapor the entire week has been big sad so far
silver vapor
When you grind two entire lines from scratch for prof tour and WG resets it bruhMoment
@alpine adder big sad
loud oxide
We won hardly with freeking lag. And 'solution' is only delaying the tournaments and delete the tournament battle results. Why dont you guys just shut down the tournament and fix the game first? Why all the players should play laggy for many years?
shrewd iron
I'm pretty sure that Rexy and team want tournies to run smoothly just as much as you guys... its not like they purposely create lag... so take a chill pill and let them try to resolve the issue š
carmine solstice
No one is irritated thereās an issue tonight. Weāre irritated because itās a reoccurring event and itās just a massive waste of time. Already 4 nights a week has turned into 5 this week and might be the same or worse next week if its rescheduled
steel shell
I would change it
No one is irritated because of the lags
We are irritated because WG is always behaving that it's our fault, not theirsš¤£š¤£
candid pike
I think today's tour will be removed just like on Tuesdayš
daring dune
@chilly terrace
So tonight final stage will be rematch or just cancelled at all? If rematch do we still keep same seeding and change map? If cancelled do we have compensation
carmine solstice
I would change it
No one is irritated because of the lags
We are irritated because WG is always behaving that it's our fault, not theirsš¤£š¤£
@steel shell usually yes but credit to them tonight for at least acknowledging it
pale finch
@chilly terrace so, how about the issues that occurred on EU related to game crashes? I know at least 5-6 teams experienced it and probably many more who Iām not aware of, is it being looked into? Nevermind, thank you @crisp shore
crisp shore
@crisp shore It's not server troubles, we are aware of it and also investigating right now.
@pale finch You're welcome
hardy cloud
@chilly terrace
Umm, a Japanese streamer and CC (Eternal_sinzan [UQ]) tweeted that not only today's tourney, but yesterday's (rescheduled) tourney results are also nullified. Is that true?
https://twitter.com/sinzan_wotb/status/1301455665597095936?s=12
crisp shore
The group stage results have not been removed though
hardy cloud
I know, that's why I'm asking lol
half urchin
so, how about the issues that occurred on EU related to game crashes? I know at least 5-6 teams experienced it and probably many more who Iām not aware of, is it being looked into? Nevermind, thank you
isnāt even new, my game crashed twice in the t8 tour finals, or was it semi-finals š¤
hope they fix it afap
steel shell
I wouldn't count on that tbh
pale finch
isnāt even new, my game crashed twice in the t8 tour finals, or was it semi-finals š¤
hope they fix it afap
@half urchin ah really? Didnāt know that, I found out about it a few days ago only and then I know that people from LGN, EG, LOCA, ELEM, VE1L and probably others suffered from none device related crashes during yesterdayās tournament.
chilly terrace
Regarding ASIA issues:
Looks like it fixed so the Final Stage was moved to tomorrow (04.09.2020 19:00 (UTC +8).
Regarding crashes:
There is already Android fix in the store that should solve it, so, please, update WoTB (this update is not obligatory so you should update the application manually). The update for IOS will be available during few days (it depends on platform review), so when it appears, please, update your client manually as far as this update won't be obligatory as well.
broken sedge
So group stage 2 days
Final stage 2 days
Hmm
chilly terrace
So group stage 2 days
Final stage 2 days
Hmm
@broken sedge
We are not glad as well about this.
pale finch
Do you think it will be fixed until the tournaments on Saturday and Sunday? Would be nice not having to worry about such issues whilst trying to qualify for the top 8 @chilly terrace Alright thanks for your answer
chilly terrace
Do you think it will be fixed until the tournaments on Saturday and Sunday? Would be nice not having to worry about such issues whilst trying to qualify for the top 8 @chilly terrace
@pale finch It's likely to be, but it doesn't depend on us.
inland solstice
what does it depend on?
gleaming pollen
I guess he said something about app store
chilly terrace
what does it depend on?
@inland solstice It depends on duration of platform review. AppStore reviews all patches that is uploaded there before they become available.
inland solstice
ah i see, ty
silver vapor
congrats wg you just robbed our schedules
Tuesday - Sunday everyday tours is epic
pale finch
Letās be happy theyāre fixing it guys
crisp shore
R.I.P. trains
silver vapor
wargaming is happy we are playing their tournaments everyday š¤£
jade spoke
WG is just testing their new mode called āLag modeā with everyone
pale finch
I mean at least theyāre acknowledging the problem(s)
alpine adder
Oh god, really? Tomorrow too? Not everyone is free everyday you know. ;-;
Thanks anyways for the update
shrewd iron
@pale finch yeah lol, at least its not a "everything is fine from our side" this time around š¤£
pale finch
Exactly, weāre making progress
chilly terrace
@pale finch yeah lol, at least its not a "everything is fine from our side" this time around š¤£
@shrewd iron because it's on our side this time
red vapor
hehe
shrewd iron
ššš yes
alpine adder
Hey Itās true, they were helpful and quick to resolve the issue this time. Even if itās dragging along the tournament. Credit where it is due. Thanks for the timely response Rexy.
thick coyote
it was just disappointing to see so much bugs and lag in asia server , @lone hearth yeah
lone hearth
At least there's a response
shrewd iron
Yeah agreed. Cheers for the timely response rexy š
lethal goblet
I heard that the result of the tournament held on September 3 was invalid. Is this true?
crisp shore
Yes
lethal goblet
thx
chilly hemlock
@pale finch glad to see na didnāt get left out of the lag spikes mid tournament yesterday
pale finch
Oh donāt worry I think weāre all getting our fair share of issues this twister, idk about RU but the rest of us at least
proud holly
woah
tribal skiff
Not technically wrong....
thick coyote
''It is on your side and our servers are always stable''- WG
u know what? i lagged for 1 month or 2 in codm , not much ppl complained about servers in codm ( not as much as blitz community) but it got fixed! they have way more players playing the game too
royal cradle
š š š š this is so true
tribal skiff
Thereās plenty of desync in Blitz, you just donāt notice it because reacting in milliseconds will never be as important as it is on a first-person shooter
bronze girder
xD
thick coyote
i have a bug , it says tournament match will start in 0m but it wont disappear
crisp shore
Would rather have WG fix server lag and crash issues first tbh
tribal skiff
The invite bug is annoying, but they have far bigger fish to fry right now
crisp shore
šš
winter swallow
Seems to be a theme - a world of parallels - where the people are saying one thing but those in power are saying another.
burnt glacier
@thick coyote that is 2 month bug already. And it's rly annoying bug cause of unreadable announcement .
patent quartz
u can't say Blitz lag if u don't have real proofs @winter swallow i.e server logs
thick coyote
@patent quartz u should scroll up and see the situation in asia
obsidian vine
guys just chill a little bit, donāt overreact
burnt glacier
Anybody got ping at final Season coins?
narrow meteor
Itāll be fixed before round robin I bet
surreal hinge
Itāll be fixed before round robin I bet
@narrow meteor but it also took them 3 updates to fix (nerf) atgms XD
near anvil
Atgms still arenāt fixed
But thatās a whole ānother discussion
red vapor
I will sub @thorn shale
proud holly
oh no he gone
near anvil
š
glass thunder
You canāt have lags if you spec
manic carbon
What happens if both teams canāt get 5 people? Most players moves on? Lol
undone island
when double-barreled tanks are brought into play as in wot pc
crisp shore
What happens if both teams canāt get 5 people? Most players moves on? Lol
@manic carbon If clan C in the next round (let's say round 2) faces clan A/B, who both can't get 5 people, clan C will automatically advance to the next round (round 3) without playing the fixture of next round (round 2).
thorn shale
What if there is a tie in supremacy? Like no one caps a base and no one dies
crisp shore
I think it depends on which team has higher hitpoints? If it's wrong, probably the team which loses the least hitpoints
surreal hinge
if time runs out the team with higher hp will win unless its even tanks (i.e 2v2) at the end or a win/loss
proud holly
so what happens when 2 teams of mice stalemate
manic carbon
Thanks @crisp shore Lol
slim blade