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#tourneys-discussion
eternal flume
viral thorn
Okay, Good to know thanks!
molten crystal
We were in semi finals
shrewd surge
Ok thanks
scarlet coyote
I don't play tournments anyways, lol
stark patio
O
thorn shale
Rip
arctic trout
O
latent kraken
Thank you!
quaint meadow
ooo
weary belfry
K
clever meteor
Ok
timid gull
nice to infor; us #
civic cairn
Oof
thorn shale
awwww maaaan
icy remnant
O
delicate nacelle
Hi
radiant portal
Hahaha
compact lichen
Nice
sweet flume
Nani
cloud zealot
Why am I in hear
arctic axle
ok
frozen moss
hi
pure pasture
Ok
granite tendon
reee @
autumn scaffold
Who dares disturb the flying dutchman
orchid zenith
Creeper
signal comet
f
flat sage
Don't care
lean vector
Oof
long mica
Do cups get kept?
inland charm
Wat???
shell vault
ok
dim quarry
Why is me pinged
still walrus
ok
south dew
Hi
marble viper
Sup
odd forge
?
simple geode
lol
gusty rampart
Good to know, thanks 🙂
fleet zodiac
f
buoyant herald
ok
jovial bobcat
What was that who is it
vital walrus
Oof
near palm
ha ha
upper otter
Привет
blazing helm
yes, everyone plays tournaments, ping everyone!
/s
regal dock
Rip
thorn fiber
🅱️ ing
balmy fulcrum
who has summoned the almighty one
thorn shale
Hi
eternal oak
ping
tame musk
good to know
thorn shale
Welp
worthy imp
who pinged me
thorn shale
Who tf pinged me?
foggy bough
Damn
verbal minnow
Yes
thorn shale
Hmmm
blissful crescent
F I have 1k and I want to get at list 10k :}
thorn shale
Раша!!
echo crest
ok
primal canyon
HELLO
amber bramble
Ok
thorn shale
🇫
wraith sky
yi
wicked thunder
Hello
crimson matrix
Dookied in the bed
steady nexus
🤡
cobalt panther
😳
thorn shale
Whats happening
steady oasis
y was I tagged
lusty tree
O
coral bison
Lmao
livid galleon
pinging everyone, interesting decision
also nice spam
thorn shale
I think they should make a role for tournament pings and notification.
shrewd iron
Stop spamming
remote trellis
chill, it’s just a ping
simple prairie
რახდება ბლეააააა
ashen anvil
Mucho texto
lucid reef
Привет
thorn shale
Hi
timber crag
tourney was moved to 17th of july...now pls stop talking
stuck schooner
Tag?
quick dove
Салют
sick plover
Пиривет
toxic arrow
oof
hushed trail
whens gravity mode coming
ember tree
👋
inland solstice
well played wg 😂
neat cargo
@thorn shale XDD
lusty wraith
hola a todos
neon aurora
Mom’s calling? Meal time??
lusty mountain
whart happened
unique crest
Lol
gaunt veldt
When event
upbeat tulip
I have a server if you want to play tournaments
fast hareBOT
evan#7438 was banned
thorn shale
Pp
sharp fern
GG
ivory nimbus
I guess another mod tagged us
subtle swift
Why was I ping ponged
vital linden
F
wet tide
I’m lovin it
valid orchid
Lol
jade lynx
who the hell pinged me?
quasi swift
Who tagged me?
empty phoenix
Server just exploded lol
thorn shale
Oof rip
gaunt mist
a ban for swearing? v epic
halcyon pine
opal sail
Them mods b tight after rolling incident
warped trench
check pins to find out who pinged
winter swallow
Also - small point of order - couldn't WG tell EU it doesn't work before I set 3 hours of time aside to play tournament? Like, you knew from Asia and RU this would happen - I hope WG cancel NA tournament to save them the same hassle.
Also I am streaming right now. So this is truly excellent PR material for WG 👏 🎬
Thanks @frosty nexus for the update - appreciated
bright hinge
Who pinged me
thorn shale
who da ping
jolly knot
i hope we're gonna get some compensation and the removal of those unfairly received military honor complaints?
crude mesa
who ping
near quest
i recieved a ping in both this discord and the russian one
scenic spoke
ayyyyy
topaz trout
The ping was for a tourney issue not the mods 😂
jade spoke
Lmao
inner umbra
Tourney issue
gaunt veldt
Nope is not for me
void terrace
okay
cinder edge
What happened
odd minnow
Why did I get pinged
warped patrol
HAHAHA
ripe plaza
thorn shale
Wg Do something about it
smoky notch
🏓 smh
chilly hemlock
They are
quasi osprey
thorn shale
T34 is good ?
ocean delta
Hello
native olive
Who pinged me
willow ridge
T34 is good ?
@thorn shale yes
tropic flare
can yall stop asking why you got pinged and actually find out what pinged you? smh
nimble verge
d
glacial ginkgo
who pinged?
unique shard
Tfu
mint glen
@glacial ginkgo admin
frank forum
Good luck
thorn shale
good job wg
glossy vine
Thx
cedar orbit
i was pinged
tired iris
@everyone
Dear players on EU and NA server,We would like to notice you about one important thing. We've faced some technical issue which is affecting tournaments. In case of this we decided to move Ascent tournament #7 on tomorrow. The start time for the tournament are still the same but they day has been changed to July 17th.
We are very sorry for any inconvenience.
devout vortex
My mistake, it was me
fast hareBOT
FireRaven#9468 has been warned.
faint raptor
who pinged?
slim blade
@everyone
Dear players on EU and NA server,We would like to notice you about one important thing. We've faced some technical issue which is affecting tournaments. In case of this we decided to move Ascent tournament #7 on tomorrow. The start time for the tournament are still the same but they day has been changed to July 17th.
We are very sorry for any inconvenience.
@frosty nexus
stiff wraith
Lol
jolly oriole
Ping pong lol
thorn shale
ping
upper oar
chill out guys, looks like we all got pinged. just chill and head out
wide basalt
PONG
solid pine
Ok thank u for the heads up WG staff
fast hareBOT
AR々×SaKuNe×#6390 was banned
lusty flint
gg WG
fast hareBOT
FireRaven#9468 was muted
sacred pike
try fixing game lag in usa first, add another server
winter light
Sorry WG, I like you guys but this.. this is just annoying (tournament)
vocal mantle
🥺
raven mirage
Sorry WG you screwed me over too many times, not interested in helping you in any way
tulip finch
who doesnt want a million thumbs down for missing nothing
thorn shale
SPAM!!
meager sable
Bruh
fast hareBOT
killerfatty1#9916 was banned
thorn shale
This is really interesting
copper pendant
👀
sterile seal
@odd pumice thats not even how it goes
gentle phoenix
Lol😆🤣😂😂🤣
devout oxide
Ye...600Mb/s and i have ping our loss...
worldly notch
@everyone
Dear players on EU and NA server,We would like to notice you about one important thing. We've faced some technical issue which is affecting tournaments. In case of this we decided to move Ascent tournament #7 on tomorrow. The start time for the tournament are still the same but they day has been changed to July 17th.
We are very sorry for any inconvenience.
@frosty nexus нах @everyone
thorn shale
Okkkk
livid galleon
oh no, a red circle!!!!!! I have been violated!!!!! Time to spam the channel for no reason, right guys?
steep surge
Ponggggg
toxic arrow
bruh all their mods are paying attention just here or what? wtf ;-;
ivory nimbus
@frosty nexus Learn how to and where to tag people next time, thanks
toxic venture
Pogchamp
upbeat tulip
Who tagged me here ?
thorn shale
He did
bronze basin
look up dude
fast hareBOT
Salimjon#7421 has been warned.
gaunt mist
stop being snowflakes over a single ping good lord
unique crest
No no don't touch ma Square this Is my no no square
random hound
Lol
barren bramble
ping?
upper oar
chill out people, yes, we got a ping. move on and please do not spam here
wispy raptor
Bruh moment
marble frost
Ping noodles
pliant peak
@copper ore i faound a bug with this tournament...
odd minnow
🦋✨they should of ping in the announcements so it’s better and so we can see it just my opinion✨🦋
stable canyon
@pliant peak WG are aware of that one already, thanks!
thorn shale
u should have pinged in the announcement channel now every animal is spamming this chat
stable canyon
@thorn shale thanks for the feedback
upper oar
In case you guys are wondering, there was an accidental @ everyone ping in here to notify players of tournament issues. We apologize for the inconvenience, thanks for your understanding.
frosty nexus
Dear players on EU server,
Matches of the Ascent tournament-7 have been moved to tomorrow, July 17th. Matches start at 19:25 CEST. Please have a check the concrete start time for your team in the game client.
raw sage
Hello. I am an Asian server tournament player. Yesterday I participated in the tournament. But I haven't received the reward for the Ascent tournament held yesterday past 13:00 (UTC+9). Please explain to the asia server management about this. Please explain why this is.
@mental walrus Management
delicate nacelle
Lol, the wg you tagged isn’t even war gaming
thorn shale
@frosty nexus ok thx
winged flicker
Ol
chilly terrace
Hello. I am an Asian server tournament player. Yesterday I participated in the tournament. But I haven't received the reward for the Ascent tournament held yesterday past 13:00 (UTC+9). Please explain to the asia server management about this. Please explain why this is.
@mental walrus Management
@raw sage
The prizes haven't been given out yet. We will do it today.
raw sage
@chilly terrace Thank you for answering my question!
languid timber
@chilly terrace it would be nice to get a 1st place compensation as I and my team got together yesterday to have a tournament (lost 2hours) instead of farming on premium tanks or even having a resr. So,in my opinion its better to give every team the maximum reward
winter swallow
@languid timber incorrect - as cups are important for seeding summer championship. Teams must receive varying Cup rewards to generate unique places 1-16
wary canopy
Who pingu me
wet tide
@languid timber incorrect - as cups are important for seeding summer championship. Teams must receive varying Cup rewards to generate unique places 1-16
@winter swallow totally agreed, otherwise this tour would just not make any difference to the placements of the team except for the fact that it would be the same with just 2k cups more
blissful crescent
thorn shale
Lmao
@thorn shale it means missed a tournament battle
I forgot what that one says what does it mean?
pallid osprey
Hello
chilly terrace
Hello there!
All participants of Ascent Tournament #7 will receive 1 day of premium account as compensation.
101AD and APBZ clans on ASIA also receive 400.000 credits, 400 free experience and 719 cups for leaderboard as well.
We are sorry for any inconvenience!
chilly terrace
Hello there!
All participants of Ascent Tournament #7 will receive 1 day of prem...
thorn shale
@thorn shale well then that is a small number compared to mine
crisp shore
Well, with the number of cups that Wargaming has given to 101AD, they have secured their spot in the next round from July 29-31, congratulations!
burnt glacier
So I guess today it will be impossible to play QT?
winter light
Nop... 🙄
muted ore
Hello, there! We're working on writing off all the unfounded complaints received at yesterday's tournament. We are sorry for any inconvenience!
jade spoke
Nyoooo, not the how2lose team
chilly terrace
Well, with the number of cups that Wargaming has given to 101AD, they have secured their spot in the next round from July 29-31, congratulations!
@crisp shore
This amount of cups are lower then their average result in previous Ascent tournaments. Also this amount of cups equal to 5-8 places in the tournament which is some kind of average result that these clans potentially could reach. We don't think that this decision is unfair for other clans in leaderboard.
crisp shore
I think it was taken out of context. With the number of cups they have gained from the compensation, XO cannot get above 101AD in terms of cups even if they finish at no. 1 for the next 3 matchdays. I have never said it is unfair to other clans and I'm not sure why it was read in this way to be honest.
Edit: And to be fair, 101AD deserves not to just earn 101 cups from what happened yesterday, so having granted 719 cups seems a fair decision in my opinion.
low badger
Can we expect a ruleset on the forums for the top 8 tier 8 tournament on the forums soon? @chilly terrace
chilly terrace
I think it was taken out of context. With the number of cups they have gained from the compensation, XO cannot get above 101AD in terms of cups even if they finish at no. 1 for the next 3 matchdays. I have never said it is unfair to other clans and I'm not sure why it was read in this way to be honest.
@crisp shore
Oh, I misunderstood you. Sorry for that, but anyway I think that this clarification would be useful for anyone who may concern.
Can we expect a ruleset on the forums for the top 8 tier 8 tournament on the forums soon? @chilly terrace
@low badger
It appears, when we announce all regulations in the game news. What exactly do you want to know about this?
modest turret
Why ping? Who pinged me in this channel bruh
chilly terrace
Why ping? Who pinged me in this channel bruh
@modest turret
This is the quote:
"In case you guys are wondering, there was an accidental "everyone" ping in here to notify players of tournament issues. We apologize for the inconvenience, thanks for your understanding."
modest turret
Ok i understand but seriously?
low badger
@chilly terrace dates, and the different tournaments past ascents. Wether that's pro/top echelon or a different format
rustic rain
Hey
celest karma
Sg
hollow parrot
Wowie
chilly hemlock
@modest turret yes seriously. Alexandra apologized for it. It’s one ping. You’ll survive
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace dates, and the different tournaments past ascents. Wether that's pro/top echelon or a different format
@low badger
Dates and information that you need have been already announced. From 29th to 31st of July. Format will be definitely another because there will be 32 teams (not 8) in this tournament.
crisp shore
I thought only the top 16 will go through? (As stated in the news: All players from Top and Middle Echelon clans will receive tickets to the Summer Season Championship!) Does that mean a clan in the top/middle echelon can send two teams to participate in the Summer Season Championship?
vivid dune
Hey
chilly terrace
I thought only the top 16 will go through? (As stated in the news: All players from Top and Middle Echelon clans will receive tickets to the Summer Season Championship!) Does that mean a clan in the top/middle echelon can send two teams to participate in the Summer Season Championship?
@crisp shore
Yeah, 32 teams, 2 from each clan which is placed in Top or Middle Echelon.
thorn shale
Maybe fix the controls first.... its annoying
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace when will be event and gravity mode will come?
@thorn shale
This channel is for tournament related questions. I can recommend you to follow the in-game news. This is the best way to find out new information as soon as possible.
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace give tour rewards more credits
@thorn shale The rewards for quick tournaments are not going to be changed. We think that they are good enough. Tournaments won't be a place for farming credits or other in-game stuff
ruby lotus
If u don't play this game, I suggest u start today. Its just peace to the mind and body....
night cosmos
Lol true
brazen plover
The anniversaries of the tanks are actually in order to earn more credits and dp, but when the high levels also fail to win, we lose more than we will win
jade spoke
Most people plays quick tournaments for credits
winter swallow
Quick tournaments are an odd one. Inexperienced teams/newbies play them for credits - top level teams rarely play them / just do it for a laugh/to troll/ for the memes - aaaand then some mid level teams use them for training.. but tbh, scrimmaging in training rooms versus an equal opponent is the best training if both sides take it seriously.
winter swallow
Which is unfortunate, because I believe WG's intent is for QTs be the backbone of tournament team development. The problem is that QTs are anything but quick!
fierce phoenix
xd
crisp shore
I'm not sure if quick tournaments are profitable to be honest. If you get to tour 4 and tour 5, yes then you earn some credits, but you earn very little if you crash out of tour 1-3. Tournaments that are in the form of a single-elimination knockout stage are much more profitable (e.g. Bronze, Silver and Gold tournaments). For me, I don't play quick tournaments for credits. If I want to improve my team strategically, training with other clans would be much more beneficial. I only see quick tournaments as improving one team's fundamentals (e.g. map awareness, focus fire, reading enemies).
winter swallow
@chilly terrace - apologies if this has been answered already, but will tonight's Ascent tournament start where yesterday ended? But with team's being moved up correctly to next bracket?
pastel tartan
all results from yesterday will stay,so its basically the tour but some teams already advanced
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace - apologies if this has been answered already, but will tonight's Ascent tournament start where yesterday ended? But with team's being moved up correctly to next bracket?
@winter swallow All yesterday results are the same.
Only affected matches will play today (and these that are connected with them). Time is 19:25 CEST, but I recommend to check up-to-date time in the game client because different rounds are played in different time. 1/16 starts at 19:25 CEST
thorn shale
Hi
eternal flume
Why can't I add or remove players from a team? if yesterday someone could play, then he cannot play today. Because of this, today we will not have a full team and the chances of getting into the top16 are becoming small.
@chilly terrace @frosty nexus
pastel tartan
its because the team is already registered, you cant change registered teams
thorn shale
I want t34 :c
buoyant marsh
hi can anyone help me get my tank's back because when i did the 7.0.1 update it was'int updating so i had to uninstall the game and then i lost my good tanks like tier 6 p.433 and then i lost all of them so can someone help me get it back????🥺 please if any one can text me on killerwot2019
shrewd surge
I suggest you to write a ticket
blissful cave
When we can expect some more details about tournament instead of Twister cup?
Thanks👍
pastel tartan
When we can expect some more details about tournament instead of Twister cup?
@blissful cave pretty sure after the summer season,so the current tour (Summer Ascent + Final Stage) is over, hope that helps
placid solar
quasi crater
@thorn shale yes all of your tanks are good
thorn shale
Ok
glass thunder
wow same bug back to eu again
winter light
...
lavish wigeon
@placid solar ez mar csak termeszetes
severe ermine
Give me a free tier 10 and I'll turn a blind eye 😎
thorn shale
crisp shore
The tournament room bug would be a minor problem anyway, now that the more important bug for handing out technical victories is fixed. 😉
rapid raft
Why touch only for Ascent??? PC Player feeling left out.🤨
livid galleon
pc versus touch is a topic that never ends well when brought up
gaunt marsh
Com to my clan Name Brevhole
unique remnant
they still should make pc open more to touneys I dont mind faceing them
crisp shore
A PC-only tournament with real-money prize pool 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈
fathom tiger
Pc gets into same tourneys than touch the only one they do not get into is when there’s money involved
livid galleon
pro-style tournaments with gold rewards or something similar for PC would be nice
fathom tiger
Isnt there them in pcwot?
digital karma
I think limiting some tours to touch only isn't helping anything , some people are gonna use emulators , get that "advantage" and you'll never catch them , and I think there is no big difference between touch and pc controls , You still need quick fingers to do them maneuvers or snap-shots , and imo it just comes to preference , based on the time spent with one of these controls options
unkempt lintel
Sex
fading talon
Omg
quick widget
Hola clan
neon delta
@digital karma it does give an advantage, and people that use emulators know they are weak so they need that advantage. You really can't understand this?
sick swan
@neon delta if the folks who are “weak” or whatever are using it to gain an advantage, shouldn’t their “weakness” balance out with any advantage using PC controls might confer? And if players who are really good are using PC controls already does it really serve any purpose to limit the competition for those of us who use touch controls? I don’t know anyone who uses both control schemes, only one or the other. If there’s a tendency for people who use PC controls to do better in-game I think it’s only due to the fact that touch controls are more convenient and accessible for a lot of players, especially younger and thus more inexperienced ones.
civic glacier
livid galleon
Using emulators is apparently not allowed
monkeys spam this chat once and now slowmode is 15m, nice
cyan moss
Bruuuuh
thorn shale
Lmao
slim blade
Today’s ascent tournament is 20:00 cet?
crisp shore
"I think there is no big difference between touch and pc controls" but uses emulators in a touch game 🤔
Aside from that, I personally find changing to touch controls very difficult, particularly you need to move your hand to press the fire button on touch while you just need to click the button on your mouse while moving your mouse on the same hand (i.e. without moving your hand) for PC. This is why aiming is much easier for PC than mobile.
pastel tartan
for all i know wg is actively working against emulators as of currently so it either shouldnt be possible,or wont be possible in upcomming tours
digital karma
@digital karma it does give an advantage, and people that use emulators know they are weak so they need that advantage. You really can't understand this?
@neon delta people using emulators to get into the touch only tournaments , and keep in mind we are talking about pro players not random plebs and as @sick swan If there’s a tendency for people who use PC controls to do better in-game I think it’s only due to the fact that touch controls are more convenient and accessible for a lot of players, especially younger and thus more inexperienced ones , or maybe that there is less mobile gamers than pc gamers if i can say so
random siren
Nuub Being professional player and a nuub
waxen otter
I am a PC player but play all tournaments and trainings on touch so I am also quite good on touch because I do it for 3 months already
south seal
I am also a PC player
violet wedge
Xd
thorn shale
we havent recieved the rewards of yesterdays ascent tourney
edit: 15min cooldown oof
summer pivot
@lime glen jack is streaming give him a team https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pJsbZn1Co8 @chilly terrace can you do something? about this ?
pastel tartan
@summer pivot he knows,i dont have mine either, we are already solving it in the pms, dont worry :)
chilly terrace
The tournament room bug would be a minor problem anyway, now that the more important bug for handing out technical victories is fixed. 😉
@crisp shore What the tournament room bug you mean?
crisp shore
@chilly terrace The tournament room invite still lingers around even if the matches of that room are finished. This is not a game-breaking bug though, so take your time for this.
chilly terrace
Today’s ascent tournament is 20:00 cet?
@slim blade Yes
we havent recieved the rewards of yesterdays ascent tourney
edit: 15min cooldown oof
@thorn shale
You know why there is 15 minutes cooldown.
Rewards will be given out today
@chilly terrace The tournament room invite still lingers around even if the matches of that room are finished. This is not a game-breaking bug though, so take your time for this.
@crisp shore If this bug happens today again, let me know, please.
silver vapor
If this bug happens today again, let me know, please.
@chilly terrace
tropic lotus
Same here
crisp shore
@chilly terrace The results of -RMB- in Ascent Tournaments #7 have not been counted. They should have 4719 cups, tied with XMEN-, after getting knocked out in the round of 16. It is not showing this result on the website.
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace The results of -RMB- in Ascent Tournaments #7 have not been counted. They should have 4719 cups, tied with XMEN-, after getting knocked out in the round of 16. It is not showing this result on the website.
@crisp shore All their matches finished with tech. defeat/victory. So that's why they didn't receive any prizes, because for receiving rewards you should play at least one actual match.
woven meadow
I think limiting some tours to touch only isn't helping anything , some people are gonna use emulators , get that "advantage" and you'll never catch them , and I think there is no big difference between touch and pc controls , You still need quick fingers to do them maneuvers or snap-shots , and imo it just comes to preference , based on the time spent with one of these controls options
@digital karma What are the advantages of emulator? Doesn’t it have the same controls (aka the same abilities and restrictions in the control scheme) as touch? How would you have an advantage?
pastel tartan
how it works that for each button you would "press" on a mobile device you set a "hotkey" to replace it with, and upon press those set buttons you basically can get pc controls whilst the games inputs are registered as touch, but wg is already working towards making emulators impossible to use/unusable for these tournaments @woven meadow
digital karma
yes exactly
crisp shore
With the fact that having a button to replace the fire button on the screen would make a huge difference for mobile players imo
thorn shale
Fix the controls 🤦♀️
slim blade
Nice. I register my team early this morning and get all my players together. Then when a log on at 20 cet MY TEAM NO LONGER EXISTS. Where has my team gone???
pastel tartan
did you also register the team once it was full?
slim blade
@pastel tartan was “register” the big green button in the top right....
pastel tartan
yes,probably
normal scroll
some players of LGN tournament teams has pseudos of ... adult content ... Is it "legal" or some kind of autorised ?
winter light
xD
proud holly
If you're talking about team names.. .
normal scroll
no, player names, 3 players names of a pro team
rapid shard
tbh i dont think that this has anything to do in this game, a name change would be appropriate
thorn shale
lmao
pale finch
Who cares lol
rapid shard
maybe all the underaged people playing the game
pastel tartan
they aint gonna know what it means tho i dont think no one is gonna care enough to search it up tbh and if they do its their fault
crisp shore
RenamedUser incoming
normal scroll
agree
thorn shale
Who searches in the internet a random name they just saw in battle?
Edit: And if you feel that offended with Some LGN players names go do ticket to WG support and stop criying here.
fathom tiger
why couldnt LGN players have player nametags?
frank bobcat
What did I fin
arctic oasis
Plz fix spectator mode
maiden halo
I’ve had a couple ddos in a tournament. Everyone on my team had skipping and low fr and high ping with package loss.
thorn shale
My account it’s blocked 🤬🤬
low pewter
Anyone creating a team for tier V VI tournament today?
burnt zephyr
is it only for touch or PC also
fathom tiger
Qts are always mixed
tropic lotus
@chilly terrace I’m having the room invite bug that lingers again
red vapor
^^^ same
red temple
Ummm
crisp shore
RenamedUser incoming 🤔
wet tide
Lmao
ornate cliff
I have a question, for the tournament say teirs 7 n 8 how does that work? Only teir 7 against other teir 7 n teir 8 against 8? Or is it mixed?
atomic tartan
Mixed
wet tide
I have a question, for the tournament say teirs 7 n 8 how does that work? Only teir 7 against other teir 7 n teir 8 against 8? Or is it mixed?
@ornate cliff both teams have the ability to take either a t8 or t7 tank. E.g. with my team we went 7 E25’s against 7 t8 tanks. Its possible to go t7 but might be smarter to use t8 if you wanna win
thorn shale
Did someone ping me and delete the message
mental quartz
Whats wrong with the spectator system, it was working last time
winter swallow
When did they fix it??
fathom tiger
It worked in like latest skrimish tourney and qt after that if i remember correctly
pastel tartan
fugit mentioned this too, that spec mode was a thing in eu qt,but when he played on asia yesterday it did not work
crisp shore
Did they break the spectator mode by fixing the recurring nonexistent room invites? 🤔
leaden belfry
I wonder how the 23k downvotes guy is doing 👀
winter swallow
@leaden belfry who is that??
thorn shale
@winter swallow rolling where is your YouTube role
chilly terrace
I wonder how the 23k downvotes guy is doing 👀
@leaden belfry We are working on zeroing complaints from Ascent Tournament #7
leaden belfry
hurray! Glad to hear it, Artem! =)
tbh, though I fully understand it wasn't fun for you or the guy in question, the idea of getting 23k downvotes due to a glitch is something I find quite funny 😂
winter swallow
Wow. So many downvotos.
@Commander121_R3AL#8165 - I am not a YouTuber.
pastel tartan
the downvotes happend, is what im guessing, coz a room was created, inv sent, but then imediatly terminated resulting in insane amounts of "tours missed" according to the system, which is why some ppl got massive downvote spams @winter swallow
winter swallow
Ah OK that figures lol
silver vapor
@chilly terrace it's 2 days after the tournament and the room invites are still stuck in our notifications
pretty annoying gotta say
tropic lotus
^^^ same
pastel tartan
even i got them,and im just commentating
tardy grotto
hi🇫🇷
graceful sphinx
anyone speack spanish?
thorn shale
anyone speack spanish?
@graceful sphinx on this server only english is allowed/en este servidor solo se puede hablar ingles
@graceful sphinx me
fleet zodiac
im gonna fall asleep w this waiting time lmao
pastel tartan
isnt it obvious? nearly no one plays around this time, most teams play their quick tours in the evening around 8pm
scenic thorn
It's Monday what are you expecting 🥴
fleet zodiac
ik lmao we just faced the same 2 teams all the way to tour 5 xd
shrewd spire
bonjour
tropic lotus
Y’all have them in both the morning and evening? @fleet zodiac
I see
fleet zodiac
@tropic lotus no evening normally 2day was diff
crisp shore
Everyone hates Monday 😂
stone sun
@thorn shale nice av
fluid mango
Why do not we accept those who play with PC?
south fern
Why do not we accept those who play with PC?
@fluid mango there are people who play on PC, if you’re talking about World of Tanks PC that’s a completely different game
thorn shale
anyone looking for a tournament na?
harsh ember
Thanks I will check it out
fathom tiger
Yesterday the spec mode worked in qt however was free cam supposed to work cuz it worked just like in training rooms?
crystal ruin
@south fern I think that @fluid mango wanted to say "Why do we rage at those who play with PC?"
Lemme tell you, i play PC. Ppl who play mobile and cry about those who play PC are complete noobs, wanna know why? Theres literally an option in settings that allows you to only play against ppl who have the same control mode (AKA mobile users only get matches against other mobile users)
This is a great feature for those who cry over ppl playing in PCs.
fathom tiger
that works only in randoms
calm saffron
So true but @fathom tiger u need to get urself a cold slushie.
fathom tiger
why tho
tropic lotus
why not
proud holly
Slushis are epic
regal swan
That is léopard
analog osprey
Thx guys before a tournament
inner socket
same
pale finch
Well we are 4 because the update is mandatory and its not loading, it's actually disgusting
flat goblet
Now this is epic
pale finch
We played the first game as 5 and then the next with 6, on stream btw despite having 9 players available, thanks for the awesome experience almost costing us a loss in the first round WG!
harsh ember
God bless WG
thorn shale
Sis
wet tide
We just played the tour without installing the update so ehmm...
harsh ember
Gravity mode tourney pls
thorn shale
Wts
jade spoke
Yep 7 maus yoloing would be fun
autumn brook
Hello
thorn shale
I'm looking for a tournament team
pastel tartan
formal python
Recruiting tier 6 tournament players look for team crank skills wanted
hollow bolt
Right beneath the message telling someone else to go to #tourneys-team-search 👌🤦♀️
chilly terrace
Hello there!
Since the big part of players faced issues due Ascent Tournament #9 on EU, the results of this tournament can't be objective. Thereby, all cups which were received in this tournament won't be taken into account in the Hall of Fame. Also, for saving general amount of tournaments, there will be additional Ascent Tournament #11, registration to it will be opening since today.
chilly terrace
Hello there!
Since the big part of players faced issues due Ascent Tournament #9...
twin hemlock
sa
crisp shore
I feel sorry for -ASP- and -DWF- after they have worked hard in trying to get into top 16
wet tide
Rip, but on the other side the MM was as bad as it could get
exotic summit
so am I allowed to join or no nvm I found out why IM STUPID
burnt glacier
@chilly terrace thx for wasting time to WG!Give me 1 useless premium day again.
low badger
@chilly terrace i forgot to ask this question as a follow-up from a prior one. Similarly to many previous ascent /cup systems.
There was a top 8 or a pro tourney, and a top echelon or top 16-9th tourney. Will we follow that system again for this?
I also remember you verbalizing a 32team system, how will that tournament look like?
burnt glacier
That is also GREAT thing that 2 tournaments will be played 2 days in a row. Its not unfair from WG. Can u try harder with your f up?
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace i forgot to ask this question as a follow-up from a prior one. Similarly to many previous ascent /cup systems.
There was a top 8 or a pro tourney, and a top echelon or top 16-9th tourney. Will we follow that system again for this?
I also remember you verbalizing a 32team system, how will that tournament look like?
@low badger
There will be different system, of course.
low badger
@chilly terrace sorry if I'm bugging you on this a little too Hard, would you be able to tell or explain why it's different?
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace sorry if I'm bugging you on this a little too Hard, would you be able to tell or explain why it's different?
@low badger
Because Round Robin for 32 teams would take too much time. That's why there will be different format.
tropic lotus
I would imagine it would look like how it’s been looking on these ascents with 32 teams in one group with wr as seeding
crimson island
Joke?
dapper vigil
@crimson island it’s serious
chilly terrace
Joke?
@crimson island
Please, check out pinned message.
crimson island
🧐
pale finch
Honeslty it’s upsetting, somehow we managed to win despite not being 7 for the first game and then win our group against the 2nd and 3rd placed team in the leaderboards including spending 2.5 hours of time and now it doesn’t count? lol
atomic tartan
Imagine having 7 in the first round 🤡
glass thunder
imagine crying about something good wg did
severe ermine
The update came out a good hour before the tournament even began. There was plenty of time to update the game in time for the tournament. I don't see why the results should be invalidated. 🤔
It's a common practice to be ready for a non QT half an hour before the start. The update was not big in the slightest (for me anyway, only took 5 minutes to download) so those 30 minutes should of been more than enough to download the update.
thorn shale
imagine crying about something good wg did
@glass thunder something good? come on didi... pfff
pale finch
Something “ good “ would be to release the update earlier or after the tournament, not at that time
shrewd iron
Tournies on update days should be cancelled if they're within a x post amount of hours of a update imo
To avoid such situations
random swift
Hello there!
Since the big part of players faced issues due Ascent Tournament #9 on EU, the results of this tournament can't be objective. Thereby, all cups which were received in this tournament won't be taken into account in the Hall of Fame. Also, for saving general amount of tournaments, there will be additional Ascent Tournament #11, registration to it will be opening since today.
thanks for wasting time 🤥
burnt glacier
@random swift so understandable,dude
dim river
@hushed wave no advertising lad get that outta here
fast hareBOT
froggie#2312 was banned
marsh quest
we still have no compensation for tournament.
wet tide
The update came out a good hour before the tournament even began. There was plenty of time to update the game in time for the tournament. I don't see why the results should be invalidated. 🤔
It's a common practice to be ready for a non QT half an hour before the start. The update was not big in the slightest (for me anyway, only took 5 minutes to download) so those 30 minutes should of been more than enough to download the update.
@severe ermine I even played the tour without updating so ehm....
cinder anvil
Thx 🙏 you WG, i know you are suck but i didn’t expect this. Bravo 👏 and see ya ✌️ Maybe you wake up some day.
formal parrot
WG, this wasnt done
woven meadow
The update came out a good hour before the tournament even began. There was plenty of time to update the game in time for the tournament. I don't see why the results should be invalidated. 🤔
It's a common practice to be ready for a non QT half an hour before the start. The update was not big in the slightest (for me anyway, only took 5 minutes to download) so those 30 minutes should of been more than enough to download the update.
@severe ermine no
muted ore
we still have no compensation for tournament.
@marsh quest Hello there! All participants of Ascent Tournament #7 have already received 1 day of premium account on July 17 as compensation.
No compensations for the Ascent Tournament #9 were issued
Since the big part of players faced issues due Ascent Tournament #9 on EU, the results of this tournament can't be objective. Thereby, all cups which were received in this tournament won't be taken into account in the Hall of Fame. Also, for saving general amount of tournaments, there will be additional Ascent Tournament #11.
pale finch
lol
severe ermine
So we spent 2 and a half hours of our time for nothing? Very cool! 😄
thorn shale
Hey :)
silver vapor
So we spent 2 and a half hours of our time for nothing? Very cool! 😄
@severe ermine did you not earn any credits from the tournament?|
kekw wargaming as usual
severe ermine
We earnt nothing. No cups, no credits, nothing whatsoever @silver vapor
crisp shore
I'm not sure why there is no compensation here. Wargaming definitely should bear responsibility on having the wrong timing of releasing the update. Some clans have fought hard to get a decent position in locking down the Summer Season Championship, especially both -ASP- and -DWF-, and now their hard work is disregarded.
Voiding Ascent Tournament #9 means Wargaming have admitted they have done something wrong in releasing the technical update (without telling the exact time of update), so some compensation should be accrued to the teams who have spent at least 2 hours in playing the tournament, and those who actually arrive early to get the update done before the tournaments.
scenic thorn
They won't give us nothing anyways 🤷♂️
chilly hemlock
@scenic thorn do you know what a double negative is?
red vapor
lmao
scenic thorn
No, I don't know explain me @chilly hemlock
crisp shore
Interestingly enough, sometimes double negative is just equal to single negative 😂
shrewd iron
😂😂😂
south fern
They won't give us nothing anyways 🤷♂️
@scenic thorn well where are the rewards then?
rapid shard
its big brain time bois
fathom tiger
anglais aint everyone's first language
scenic thorn
🧐
crisp shore
Cor anglais!
jade spoke
It’s English bruh
sudden violet
yes it s like dealing with wg when u sent them a ticket ik for sure now they use google translate
azure pecan
No need google translate, they just dont read your messages
jade hornet
yeah. we worked hard for this victory and now all our work is just thrown away without any compensation.... I would agree if WG said: They will count BOTH Ascent Tornament #11 and #9 but as it is right now it is not accaptable.
harsh ember
thank you
dim river
@flat hemlock inglés/English please
thorn shale
Wut
thorn shale
@thorn shale change your avatar
fast hareBOT
german_tanker_44#1616 has been warned.
slender shuttle
Oooooooopam
floral mortar
Can anyone explain how the seeding of tournaments actually works, I looked at the webpage for seeding and am still trying to make sense of the victory rate R or how exactly it is acheived
sinful marlin
XD
muted ore
Can anyone explain how the seeding of tournaments actually works, I looked at the webpage for seeding and am still trying to make sense of the victory rate R or how exactly it is acheived
@floral mortar Hello there! You can read more about seeding teams in tournaments in the article: https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/15743/
obtuse flax
candid pike
World of Maus🙃
winter light
New Pay 2 Win T8, before the T8 finals.
Thank‘s
fathom tiger
most of the players have already bought 252 or action what does one more purchase wight on that anymore
marsh pebble
Damn, 50hp will really help the FV215B .......
fathom tiger
it also gets more ammos
crisp shore
I'm not sure if I'm the outlier here but I seldom run out of shells for the heavy tanks I have?
wet tide
Is4 kinda was low on capacity ig
pastel tartan
same for 215b
30shells in general is too low for most tanks
dim river
it’s fine if your reload is <10s, but if it’s less it’s gonna be hard
gleaming pollen
i ran out ap's today playing is-4
mental gazelle
Bro I have 300 ping
gentle sierra
Broooo
burnt glacier
3 tournaments in a row each day for cups.OMG WG why your timetable is so dumb?
crisp shore
laughs in clans who train every night
floral mortar
@muted ore thank you for your reply, I have read that article and it does not explain enough about the actual equation used. Is there a way to elaborate or explain the equation correctly?
thorn shale
Specialists vibing
arctic axle
Are the reports gone from poeples MH at least?
wet tide
Are the reports gone from poeples MH at least?
@arctic axle yup
pastel tartan
excellent, 8 invites
arctic axle
@pastel tartan you are collecting them like pokemon cards
pallid raven
excellent, 8 invites
@pastel tartan better than no invite
pale finch
Is it really win rate seeding for the final stage of the tournament? That’s a joke if so lol. Absolutely despicable system.
wet tide
Is it really win rate seeding for the final stage of the tournament? That’s a joke if so lol. Absolutely despicable system.
@pale finch agreed and rather sad. This would mean some top 8 teams get taken out already and we get judged on our solo-gameplay, not as a team.
wet tide
From the beginning on placement in the season should be of importance, not just wether you’re in top 16 or not. Have the wr for the first tour of the ascent tournaments and then make the tours after random, otherwise the rerolled bois just have an advantage (not gonna name no clans). Make the individual places in the final top 16 count on the seeding of MM, if you want to make it strongest - weakest have the highest placed team face the lowest placed, 2nd fights 15th and so on. Once some placements have been given try to balance the groups (like 2 top 8 teams per group if there’s 4 groups, not 4 top teams in one group)
pale finch
Highest placement in the ascent should just play lowest placement and so on I thought that would make sense considering the excessively long qualifying stage
wet tide
It does, but ye no lets rely on solo performance for our prize-awarded tournaments instead of something more reliable to show the team’s tour skills
tropic lotus
Or just be GMA and club for 5,000 games as a clan in low tiers to get better seeding
obsidian vine
^ actually a good idea
south fern
Oop
vital obsidian
In ascent of next major tour, will it be possible for a team in an early qualified clan to jump to a friend clan, to buff that clans chances to qualify aswell in the last rounds? And then jump back for the finals
crisp shore
I think having purely win rate seeding will be a terrible idea since it gives no purpose of fighting for 11 match days for an advantageous ranking in the end. The whole process can be halved. It will make no difference in finishing 1st and 16th so long as you have good average win rate. There will be no reason for teams to play in the Ascent Tournaments if they know they are going to be qualified anyway. I know everyone wants to get 4 more days of premium time but at the very least if one must insist on win rate seeding, do at least 2 pots (1-8; 9-16), not 1 entire pot of 16 teams in the draw.
thorn shale
Hi
glass thunder
Doing ascent for 24 days to get teams rank then forgot all and make finals with team wr gg 200IQ
wet tide
In ascent of next major tour, will it be possible for a team in an early qualified clan to jump to a friend clan, to buff that clans chances to qualify aswell in the last rounds? And then jump back for the finals
@vital obsidian that would just promote gold diggers, If you play a tournament with a clan and you earn points with it those points should stay with the clan
modest glade
hello everyone J never joined in tournament
crisp monolith
Hey
vital obsidian
@wet tide exactly, but if rules allow it, it might happen
wet tide
@wet tide exactly, but if rules allow it, it might happen
@vital obsidian it better aint come, makes it that no one will even consider being loyal anymore
pastel tartan
i mean its not like some clans already did it this current ascents 👀
wet tide
i mean its not like some clans already did it this current ascents 👀
@pastel tartan would make it even more common, now there’s not much use for switching teams except for the fact that they might join a better team. With the points involved its gonna be people grinding points with a team and then leaving before the pro tour which brings a whole new load of probs
thorn shale
Hey
burnt glacier
Why did Last chance tournament disappear?
wet tide
Why did Last chance tournament disappear?
@burnt glacier that would only take place if there would be 2nteams on e.g. place 15, thats not the case so no need
pastel tartan
last chance is only if 2 teams have the same amount of cups ik its what ^ said but this might be easier to understand @burnt glacier
summer kettle
2 suggestions:
- can we remove premium tanks and collectable tanks from tournaments which ruin matchups, especially t8 with 252u's and t22 mediums outclassing other Russian mts
- Ammunition, provisions, consumables do not have any cost in tournaments because it deters players that aren't play to win to play the game effectively because they r worried about losing credits
crisp shore
Per the second point, usually you earn the lost credits back in tournaments (provided you reach an ok place) but I would put that point forward to random battles, or at the very least reduce the cost since the credit sustainability is in my opinion against what the original idea of having a tiered system is about.
carmine solstice
The credit thing is a good point. In pro tour in spring I spent approx. 550k creds in one night from one of the ascents. But that’s more about prammo tbh
summer kettle
I'm in N0VA clan issue isnt really when U r winning I agree, but if we want to have more people playing then it needs to be an easier playing field, the common player doesn't consider tournaments because of a) the time constraints b) because it isn't worth it financially and I believe this is a detriment of tournaments because it ultimately only the good players play who have a good chance of winning
near anvil
IMO, the t16 tournament at the end of the season should have been seeded by place at the end of ascents
My team skipped the last 2/3 ascents since we just locked t16 in early. Shouldn’t we be encouraged to keep playing?
red vapor
^
fathom tiger
Isnt that a server problem i think every eu and ru team had to play well in every tourney ro get into top16
left portal
@thorn shale yo fr. They should make twister tier 8
south fern
That would be pretty interesting to watch with all the premium tanks in the tier, so many more options
left portal
Awesome!
thick coyote
hope tier 8 tournaments will be no more(except quick tourneys), i hope it will be tier 10
jade rover
tier 8 tournament wana join msg me
livid galleon
no
pale finch
Pepehands
night oriole
Who tag me👀 🌚
fathom tiger
Watson
hollow bolt
#tourneys-team-search @oak scroll
winter light
When we know the mappool?
mystic osprey
@fathom tiger after top 8 the skill level of clans drop significantly here on NA
low badger
Oh well, lots of clans didn't really care so far. I can't say I'm too suprised, but hopefully the clans that played will gain experience and learn from this. @mystic osprey
fathom tiger
isnt there a huge gap inside the top 8 as well
pastel tartan
asia is not any better unfortunately
pale finch
I mean to be fair on EU the top 4 is very predictable almost every season as well.
crisp shore
Asia and their very "competitive" race for top 16 👀
pale finch
Asia pepega server, at least NA looks more competitive now than ever before imo
south fern
NA is still the joke server
thorn shale
At least it isn’t the easiest to farm damage and wn8 in. There are more joke servers then NA.
azure pecan
How about chineese server guys
south fern
Haven’t played, wouldn’t know
livid galleon
whole game is a joke
south fern
And you keep playing why?
cinder reef
I am dog ahiy in wotb
low badger
@chilly terrace when will the next leg of the t8 tournament will start?
mystic osprey
^
Also what are your guys opinions on GMA the clan on NA?
thorn shale
Prefer to not say my opinion so I don’t get yelled at in my dms
south fern
GMA is decent tbh, nothing incredible but they can get the job done if they try
red vapor
gma is trash @mystic osprey
thorn shale
👍 hello my name is Rúben guys ok
stuck viper
Hello
fading axle
hola
proud holly
Omg Mashiro how can you be so insulting to GMA 😱😱😱
tropic lotus
@mystic osprey GMA is bad
mystic osprey
oh
flat goblet
GMA clubbing WR at low tier to get better seeding for future ascent tournaments. Can’t 100% blame them if WG thinks it’s a good enough system.
left portal
PzB2 op
thorn shale
We need people for tournament good players for hobos clan NA server
flint valley
Hi
red vapor
pz3 op
livid galleon
I remember there was someone applying to many top clans claiming to possess "comp tier 4s"
proud holly
All I did was just show off my above average blitz stats and I was all good
fossil wing
Hello
thorn shale
@lime glen @frosty nexus please check the messages I have sent you if you have time. Thank you!
frosty nexus
@thorn shale replied to you
glass thunder
2 days for tier 8 finals and we have no information's about maps and format nice
muted ore
when will the next leg of the t8 tournament will start?
@low badger Hello there! The Summer Season Championship starts on July 29. The details will be announced soon when the registration opens.
winter light
And when is the registration open?
glass thunder
maybe registration start july 29 then rush the tournament and don't forgot the wr seeding why make 10 ascent tournaments to make team's rank
wet tide
Dont tell me the 29th is registration and 31th is the actual day of playing the tournament
winter light
I think it will be today.., but I don’t know 😂
chilly terrace
The announcement will be today.
broken ember
Weird - just got a notification a gold box was added to my account after a game but can’t see it anywhere. Anyone else got that?
winter light
Okay thanks for answering
leaden belfry
@broken ember strictly speaking not tournament related, but I've heard others about that as well. Usually it pops up where also the daily deals that disappear after x hours or days are, not actually in your inventory
leaden otter
.
normal scroll
Weird - just got a notification a gold box was added to my account after a game but can’t see it anywhere. Anyone else got that?
@broken ember it's pop up offer, you should get it soon
hasty dagger
There have been some movement between clans after Ascent tournaments. Ofcourse this is not illegal if WG allows this to happen, but is it fair play?
crisp shore
If it is after Ascent Tournaments, then I think it is totally fine, especially to R-2-R, 49DIV and EG777 as you can't kidnap the players within the clan as these clans won't be playing Summer Season Championship.
hasty dagger
If your clan don’t have enough active players to participate the tournament, is it still ok? Some clans might ask players from other clan to boost their teams wr, is it still ok? I suggest that WG change tournament participation so that the player who joins the team, must have been a member of the clan x weeks/months.
crisp shore
You said after the Ascent Tournaments, so technically this is the same as after a football season, when transfers happen.
You also miss my point of some of these clans now not being able to participate in Summer Season Championship, which means it is off-season for them.
Replying to Didi: The details will be announced today
glass thunder
@chilly terrace will tier 8 finals be in same date or will be posponded ?
Just asking cause big tournaments used to be in game 1 week before start
coral pivot
@hasty dagger the migration between teams/clans is a normal thing in any game, you cannot restrict it based on tournament regulations. The only possible way is to adopt a bit of the esports arena principles, where each member of the team signs a contract while playing for it. Thus, this should be the responsibility of teams/clans. But not tournament regulation.
winter light
he said the announcement will be today but idk
wet tide
Hope they changed the seeding but have a bad feeling bout this cuz why would it otherwise take this long to announce?
crisp shore
Also your rhetorical questions imply changes during the tournament. For this, I would prefer a contract of some sort to tie down players to the same clan, which can ensure the smaller clans to have a stable group of players to play, while seeding manipulation can be avoided.
And to answer your rhetorical questions here, if they don't have enough players, they should simply not participate the entirety of the tournament. There are also many ways to manipulate the win rate seeding so in the end, the main issue lies with the method of win rate seeding, rather than the ethics involved in getting better win rate players to the clan, as the latter has a huge grey area to argue for/against.
S0ULS merge with -DWF- (prolly temporarily) is an interesting case here and I have stated my description and views of this incident on both my latest stream and Fugit's coffee chat.
chilly terrace
There have been some movement between clans after Ascent tournaments. Ofcourse this is not illegal if WG allows this to happen, but is it fair play?
@hasty dagger
We don't think that it's unfair play. Clans can improve their cast during the season.
Usually, situation like on screenshots is when players register as a team in the tournament and leave the clan before it starts.
@chilly terrace will tier 8 finals be in same date or will be posponded ?
Just asking cause big tournaments used to be in game 1 week before start
@glass thunder It won't be postponed.
normal scroll
no rewards for the teams not in top 8 ?
glass thunder
@chilly terrace seeding work with wr can i ask why we did play 10 ascents to get cups ? i i mean why not win time and make it just one tournament better than 10 useless ascents
silver vapor
We already have ascent cups that could seed teams properly, why not use that
wet tide
Cuz logic lmao
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace seeding work with wr can i ask why we did play 10 ascents to get cups ? i i mean why not win time and make it just one tournament better than 10 useless ascents
@glass thunder
Ascent were used to determine top-16 teams, because one single tournament is too random for this purpose. That's it.
wet tide
It says group stage, does that mean a team will face multiple opponents before goin through? Or is it just like the ascent tournaments, immediate knock-out (with bo5)
chilly terrace
It says group stage, does that mean a team will face multiple opponents before goin through? Or is it just like the ascent tournaments, immediate knock-out (with bo5)
@wet tide
Group stage in the Single Elimination format. It means that if you lose one match, you leave the tournament.
burnt glacier
@chilly terrace 2 teams from each clan?Do u rly think that it's fair to have 2 teams in such big tournament?
crisp shore
To further Didi's point, clans can just stop playing Ascent Tournaments once they have earned enough cups. Some have already earned their spot ca 4 games to spare and they can just stop playing because they have already qualified even if teams outside top 16 finish no. 1 in all the remaining tournaments. I don't think Wargaming wants to encourage this kind of possibilty, so there needs to be consideration put into seeding in Summer Season Championship using the ranking of the leaderboard.
subtle pasture
🍴
gentle sierra
Tier 8 big tournament lmao
azure pecan
Yeah, I don’t get why is it so long ? 10 ascents for a t8 tournament lol
I mean, what does it changes to play 3 or 10 ascents. Anyways it’s not like the few teams that are fighting for 16th spot, are real opponents for the cash prize.
I can understand it in t10 ascents for twister n stuff because the 8th spot is an important spot and a lot of clans are fighting hard for it, so it deserves a long qualification so the result is the most precise possible (it’s not what I think, it’s how WG thinks I guess)
But the long qualification for a t8 top16 doesn’t make sens, last spots don’t have value at all
And once again I don’t get why we put such a big purpose on a t8 tournament, because anyways the clans that are leading this tournament are t10 clan lmao
It would make sens if t10 clans were not allowed to participate at least..
thorn shale
I feel it should have been by ranking. My team has an avg 55 wr career and since it is strongest vs weakest, we will likely go against the 1st or 2nd best team. And due to this it will be very difficult to make it to the top 8 since we will have to face a very hard team early on. If it was by ranking, the bracket would be more accurate as people fight for certain spots to get the best placement in the bracket
crisp shore
One suggestion that could be done for the draw in the Summer Season Championship is to create 4 pots, allocated according to the position on the leaderboard. Then, you draw one team from one of the pots randomly (totally random) and allocate that to one group. (Actually, the draw streamed live would even boost viewers and excitement!!)
For example: Let's take teams: A1, A2, A3, A4; B1, B2, B3, B4; and so on. Group A, I drew A3 from pot A; then I drew B2 from pot B; then I drew C4 from pot C (no pun intended); then I drew D2 from pot C. I can allocate these 4 teams (A3, B2, C4, D2) to this group: Group A. (Do the entire process one more time if there are 8 teams in one group)
With a group stage, I suppose there will be at least 2 groups. This might be somewhat similar to UEFA Champions League method but something that could be attempted.
burnt glacier
@crisp shore agree
chilly hemlock
@chilly terrace so when are the spring season banners being put up?
Because you said July and it’s basically August
vital obsidian
In ascent of next major tour, will it be possible for a team in an early qualified clan to jump to a friend clan, to buff that clans chances to qualify aswell in the last rounds? And then jump back for the finals
@chilly terrace will this be possible in autumn tour?
wet tide
What are the maps for the fight with 32 teams gonna be?
gentle sierra
They are already announced in game
long ginkgo
Algum brasileiro
glass thunder
@wet tide https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/328/description/ go down for maps list
hasty dagger
Big tier 8 tournaments has a place in wot blitz. If you look quick tournaments, there might be pathetic 20+ teams in tier 10, when tier 8 has 80+ teams. Also the games economy sucks. It takes too long to develope tier 10 tanks and when you get there, it will be finacially desaster without premium account or boosters. Tier 8 has more teams, which means more fights and new clans to rise wot blitz esport.
The tournament system which we have now doesn’t engourage new teams to join tournament enough. If your team’s wr is under 50 % you will get over 60 % opponent to first round, which often means that you will get 2 fights and game over. There should be at least losers bracket or something like that to get more fights for the tournament evening.
minor sierra
The Summer final tournament says top 32 teams from Top and Middle but I only count 16 teams are in top and middle.
pastel tartan
because it is 2 teams per clan that can participate
burnt glacier
And that is unlogic trash
hasty dagger
How will they get 2 teams per clan, if clan like APA won’t get even 1, without borrowing players from IMMOR and FENIX? Why you didn’t take teams from lower echelon, if you wanted 32 teams. Who wants to watch R-2-K vs R-2-K final?
gentle sierra
It was announced from the beginning that clans can have 2 teams , why do you complain about it now ?
pastel tartan
it is true that it was stated at the start, that one clan can bring up to 2 teams, also apa didnt borrow players,they gave out their players, and isnt it the clans fault if they cant even make 1 team on their own? then why participate, also, having 2 teams means you potentially split your forces,so shouldnt those who dont do it be happy? and with that statement of yours is just rubbish if you ask me, if there would be an r2k vs r2k finale, doesnt that just mean they were better than the other teams? its the same as complaining you only lost coz u met some of the strongest teams in round 1, what does it matter, if you are apperantly good enough you would've met them at some point anyways, this whole mentality of "this and that is unfair" is just childish, the rules were known from the start so you either deal with it or you dont, but then dont go complaining
hasty dagger
So are you saying that it’s best for the game’s future that there is only 8-16 clans which plays against each others? Don’t wise me about rules. If rules says that control type is touch, then it’s thouch. If rules says that registeration type is clans, then it means CLANS, not mix of the clans.
Anyway, have a good fights at the finals. And yes, R-2-K is at the final, because they are better than other teams.
crisp shore
I would doubt whether big tier 8 tournaments have a place in WoTB. Yes, a lot more teams participate in tier 8 tournaments. However, quantity does not equate to quality, as we haven't seen any newcomers to the tier 8 tournaments, bar possibly -TTT- and -ASP- in the EU server. Tier 8 is also plagued with premiums, and it is not a rare scene to see teams roll out with no tech tree tank, which is against the you-do-not-need-to-pay-to-play nature of this game. Yes, more teams in tier 8, but "big" enough? I doubt.
I agree that the game's economy sucks without having to resort to paid elements. However, the current meta in tier 8 requires you to pay a certain amount of money to be "good", so it contradicts with the point that teams don't play tier 10 tournaments because it is a financial disaster. Tier 8 itself is a financial catastrophe to teams. (To add, I find it cheaper to get tier 10 tanks to play rather than tier 8 tanks)
I also doubt whether the current tournament system is discouraging. You have tier 6 tournaments to play for, which good clans SELDOM hop down to play seriously. I started out at tier 6 and it takes time to develop the necessary skills for tournaments. You improve by games and experience. If playing over like 3000 tournament battles in tier 6 and 8, and yet you still struggle to break into tier 10 tournaments, inherently there is something wrong with the method you have used to tackle tier 10 tournaments in my opinion. Ascent Tournaments is meant for clans who have "prepared", not for beginners obviously.
Besides, you don't need to send out two teams to play Summer Season Championship obviously.
wet tide
@wet tide https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/328/description/ go down for maps list
@glass thunder cheers mate
glass thunder
👍
steady nexus
I personally dont even bother with 8 because its just who ever spent more on tanks wins
wet tide
I personally dont even bother with 8 because its just who ever spent more on tanks wins
@steady nexus tbh my team with around 3 prems beats 7 prem teams so its not fully dependent on prem spam. Still agree with ur point since the 252us etc are annoying af but with like 2/3 of em you can still manage
wet tide
About the tickets, if you register with 9 players do you just have to use 9 tickets? (1 ticket per player entering) or still have to use 10 tickets?
crisp shore
I think all of the players must donate a ticket
azure pecan
Yes 9 players = 9 tickets
severe ermine
using the excuse of t8 tourneys being 'premium spam' is a bit lame. Just because a team is spamming 7 strong premiums won't give them a free win. Tactics are still key to winning.
left portal
Why don’t those tactics include tech tree tanks then
crisp shore
You do have T32 and Caernarvon that is pretty much in the meta, as well as FV301 and T-54 ltwt. to be the light being the messenger. However, you definitely want an Obj 252U playing in an IS-4-role-equivalent in tier 8. Tactics are important to winning but the most optimal situation would mean a heavy reliance on premium tanks (pun intended).
Asia is pretty similar with the premium spam, and I do find some teams with an upper hand with better premiums so that they have larger breathing room. Teams without better premiums would need to work really hard tactically and allows little room of error. That being said, T32 and FV301 are pretty common too.
severe ermine
They do, plenty of them. On EU you'll usually see 2 252s per game but the rest is all tech tree tanks such as the Tiger 2, Fv301, T32, Caernarvon and the occasional T-54 ltwt or ISU @left portal
I played in the NA ascent for STORM extensively. I was seeing a lot of 252s and AXs but T32s and FV301s were still prevalent and relevant
left portal
Ok meta much be much different on NA Bc I dont know any teams running t32 or caernervon. From what I know (albeit I havent been following these tourneys very closely since I find tier 8 comp to be a joke) NA mainly runs 252s prog 46s action x stuff like that with tigers and a spotter mixed in. Obviously it isn’t all premiums but teams are definitely running mostly premiums if not all. I could be wrong about some specific tanks tho but I do know it’s premium spam here
thorn shale
Yeah EU is wack. Everyone on NA just spams 5 252us a game and rush’s one side and it is gg. No one has “strats” in NA. And if you have strats you usually lose. Also can seeding by ranking become a thing? Like it is so annoying that is is based on wr cause it gives some teams no chances.
glad glacier
@chilly terrace I am a player that was in a team that made top 8 on the NA server. I stepped out of the clan to use another clans tier X clan supply to buy tier 8s and equip them for the upcoming championship. However, I didn’t join back in time to get a ticket for the championship. I was wondering if there was a way to get my the ticket. I can supply evidence that I participated in 8 of the ascents and show you my cup count. I already submitted a ticket on the wargaming site but didn’t know if they’d get back to me in time.
thorn shale
@glad glacier oh yeah I saw your in steeb. You should have your ticket hopefulyl
alpine adder
@thorn shale exactly the same story in Asia.
@chilly terrace the max teams for the tournament are 32, I would say the expected teams for Asia are 16, in that case will there be 2 groups of 8 and the top 2 moving to the next stage or 4 groups of 4 with the top 2 moving to the next stage?
warm dust
Where to find Wargaming official chart for top clans/middle clans /all clans ?
alpine adder
https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/clans-leaderboard/#/leagues/1
@warm dust
Will spectator mode be allowed for this tournament?
Big sad, thanks tho, GL in ascent madd
silver vapor
no. it's literally a continuation of ascents. if ascents don't have spectators, this championship will noot
pale finch
Tier 8 pepega tier
flat goblet
T32 extensively on NA? Lol
silver vapor
when you're so poor you need to run T32 and Caernarvon instead of 252u
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace I am a player that was in a team that made top 8 on the NA server. I stepped out of the clan to use another clans tier X clan supply to buy tier 8s and equip them for the upcoming championship. However, I didn’t join back in time to get a ticket for the championship. I was wondering if there was a way to get my the ticket. I can supply evidence that I participated in 8 of the ascents and show you my cup count. I already submitted a ticket on the wargaming site but didn’t know if they’d get back to me in time.
@glad glacier There is now way to get ticket in this case.
fast hareBOT
KingDodo_918#0801 has been warned.
winter swallow
@hasty dagger I doubt it will be r2k vs r2k in the final.
As has been said before, each clan can field two teams for this championship.
R2k is currently a merger between r2k and the twin clan r4k (2nd team) - r4k moved back into r2k for this tournament because 2 teams per clan. If twister goes back to one team per clan, 2nd team players will move back to r4k.
Yes it is silly - but like if you read the rules, you won't get blindsided by information that has been published and promoted for over a month...
winter swallow
On a separate note...
As an observation- I'm going to point out that a 10+ tournament Ascent series (that's 20+ hours of game time alone FYI) designed to sort clans by ability (Cup scores) is going to waste because the group stage of this championship is using WR based seeding which is tremendously flawed.
coral pivot
All this verbosity about two teams per clan and players moving from one clan to another is absolutely pointless, imho. The problem is that people complaining about it, are subjectively perceiving it as an abuse, without having the ability to understand that on the other hand, since for the entire season, one clan could have had two really good teams, and both teams worked hard to get those cups, bothteams deserve to be there. But fully agree on the group seeding problem, since it diminishes the performance of the clans in ascent. @chilly terrace would you be so nice to look in dm, thx
hasty dagger
I don’t see any problem with 2 or even 3 teams at qualification stage, but at finals more than 1 team from same clan is boring. When I was in -WW-, one year ago, we played tournaments with 3 teams, but all members in teams where clan’s own players. I don’t know is it my Finnish mentality or am I just too committed for my clan, why from my opinion, clan’s should play with their own players. When I join the clan, I really play for the the clan, not for myself. Now I know that the registeration type doesn’t mean anything, so the case is closed.
winter swallow
How many clans in the top 16 will run a 2nd team? Only S0ULS, VE1L and R-2-K (from the top 16) ran a 2nd team during the ascents.
wet tide
How many clans in the top 16 will run a 2nd team? Only S0ULS, VE1L and R-2-K (from the top 16) ran a 2nd team during the ascents.
@winter swallow guess we will too xD
winter swallow
@wet tide and so you should - but I think at least on EU that many clans in the top 16 will only put in one team.
vital obsidian
only 13 team registered and 3 hour remaining 👀
upbeat rivet
Ta gueule bouffon de ta mère la mort
thorn shale
@chilly terrace you don’t need 10 tickets for your team to register correct? Like 9 tickets and 9 people is enough right? @glacial lantern no you won’t cause ur wr is very different. You will most likely play cursd or TH cause ur the 3rd highest seed for wr and they are the the lowest 3. Even if you do it will be in the finals which means both your teams would qualify
glacial lantern
On NA there are 16 registered so far, that might increase the chance to face the other team of my own clan
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace you don’t need 10 tickets for your team to register correct? Like 9 tickets and 9 people is enough right? @glacial lantern no you won’t cause ur wr is very different. You will most likely play cursd or TH cause ur the 3rd highest seed for wr and they are the the lowest 3. Even if you do it will be in the finals which means both your teams would qualify
@thorn shale
One player - one ticket. So if your team contains 9 players, each of them must have a ticket.
fathom tiger
Did all the top clans take part in tier8 season?
tropic lotus
@fathom tiger majority did. Some of them played maybe 3 or 4 ascents and it was enough to comfortably get them in top 16
pale finch
when you're so poor you need to run T32 and Caernarvon instead of 252u
We got first in the EU ascents and that’s what we do lol
narrow tiger
@glad glacier There is now way to get ticket in this case.
@chilly terrace That's a shame.
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace That's a shame.
@narrow tiger
Tickets are always given out by this way. Basically, you shouldn't leave clan until you don't receive clan reward. It doesn't matter who played in tournaments, because these rewards are given out to clan. And since he wasn't clan member at the time when tickets were given out he wasn't receive anything.
coarse smelt
@chilly terrace just wondering, would these tickets be usable in any other tournaments, or just this one (and this particular year)?
narrow tiger
I still think that there should be some room for such cases where it is so obvious that the player is and the whole time was a real part of the team, so the wg staff could sort out these minor problems in players favor. (And not unintetionally punish them for something that can be hardly considered players mistake worthy of excluding of the final season tournament). I know it is mainly his own fault but it is also about making players experience better and about being helpfull to wotb player base so they know, they can get help from support when they really need it... if you work hard with your team for quite a long time during whole summer season and this happens to you in the end and you get none help from support... it is just sad. @chilly terrace
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace just wondering, would these tickets be usable in any other tournaments, or just this one (and this particular year)?
@coarse smelt Just this one
I still think that there should be some room for such cases where it is so obvious that the player is and the whole time was a real part of the team, so the wg staff could sort out these minor problems in players favor. (And not unintetionally punish them for something that can be hardly considered players mistake worthy of excluding of the final season tournament). I know it is mainly his own fault but it is also about making players experience better and about being helpfull to wotb player base so they know, they can get help from support when they really need it... if you work hard with your team for quite a long time during whole summer season and this happens to you in the end and you get none help from support... it is just sad. @chilly terrace
@narrow tiger
We don't control any clan movements during the season, so it's up to clans and clan members to solve such cases by themselves. May be next time we'll make a notice in a news that clan rewards are given out only for these clan members who who were in the at the time of giving out.
analog osprey
What a funny channel here.
elder heart
This moment when you’ve played just a few ascents and got ticket 🌚
thorn shale
@chilly terrace when do we figure out who we are facing. The date of the tournament or later today
pastel tartan
its still drawing
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace when do we figure out who we are facing. The data of the tournament or later today
@thorn shale Today
spice sluice
Who do u enter tournaments
velvet dome
Jesus Christ. Played in 10 Ascent tourneys for a total of 30 tours, more than 20 hours excluding time taken for training. Got the 6th spot in the top echelon.
But all of that won't count when we face FEAST tomorrow and either one of us knocks the other out in ONE tour.
😂 😂 😢
pale finch
Pepehands
thorn shale
Our chart is still not out :(. I want to see if we are getting a by tomorrow and see who we are facing to see what we need to prepare for
woven meadow
Doesn’t matter who you are facing. Just prepare yourself. Very few clans on NA at least need you to think carefully about what they will do because it’s gunna be unusual.
red vapor
@thorn shale brackets are out , you too
thorn shale
@red vapor yes they are and I think we will make top 8 (: GL to you guys
thorn shale
Jesus Christ. Played in 10 Ascent tourneys for a total of 30 tours, more than 20 hours excluding time taken for training. Got the 6th spot in the top echelon.
But all of that won't count when we face FEAST tomorrow and either one of us knocks the other out in ONE tour.
😂 😂 😢
@velvet dome same situation we have ra1d xd
hard glacier
Fun fact this tournament don't show if you're good or bad. This is tier 8 xD
chilly terrace
The registration for Summer Season Championship 2020 on NA will be prolonged until the 29th of July, 8:00 AM (PT) / 11:00 AM (ET)
chilly terrace
The registration for Summer Season Championship 2020 on NA will be prolonged unt...
open zealot
Lmao
dim river
that’s nice
thorn shale
@chilly terrace so the brackets are going to be changed? Also why the sudden change in registration date. 😩 Also, for the top 8 how will the bracket be made? Strongest to weakest or random. You should allow us to unregister because we all scrambled to get players @slim token ikr now we are screwed @thorn shale they aren’t gg
slim token
Probably because some of the top special clans didn’t register in time 😉
One of the finals a while back had a really short registration period and we along with a bunch of clans missed the deadline. It wasn’t changed and several of us begged. I think NA only had 7 teams that got to play that time. But that is life. It is always who you know. 🙂
thorn shale
Bro that’s stupid
Groups better be kept the same
velvet dome
@thorn shale bruh. All I can say is good luck
analog osprey
@thorn shale together bro
tropic lotus
^
thorn shale
@slim token bro facts af
gentle sierra
Having to rely on teams missing registration , opa
woven meadow
Lmao. 100s of clans miss a chance to play in a realistic tournament because the date to register was like 4 days before the tournament, RGN misses registration the day before a tourney and WG let’s them in anyways.
They definitely don’t pick favorites tho. 11/10 wouldn’t register again.
Also glad to see that a lot of thought went into the big brain seeding we got.
thorn shale
Yes
mild river
^
thorn shale
Like at least let us re register. Some people rushed. And now it is basically just open for rgn
surreal hinge
I get it that wargaming wants the top clans to always be top 8, but i do agree that since there wasnt any money involved and/or major prizes given during ascent tournaments, it should've been random seeding as it gives every team a fair chance to advance up the rounds instead of getting trounced by top 8 clans the second they go into round of 16 matches.
This also gives the chance that 2 top 8 clans go against each other in the round of 32 or 16, which leads to only one top 8 clan to advance. Usually, if you have a full registration for a tourney like ascent, all top 8 clans would be seeded so that 2 are in each group, correct? That isnt what happened though. Instead, you had 3 top 8 clans in one group and 1 in the other (as an example of course). What im trying to say is that the seeding algorithm sucked and not everyone had the same chance as others to go to the finals in each group.
Back to the "2 top 8 clan clash" thought (if they meet at round of 32/16). If you had random seeding, this is a chance that may happen, instead of never happening from the "strongest-weakest" seeding (aka who can reroll harder). The reason that this is good is because one top 8 clan will advance farther into the tourney, and one top 8 clan will be eliminated. This, in turn, gives a chance to a non top 8 clan to advance to the finals, which in my opinion is a lot more fun than dreading to fight a match against a top 8 clan.
thorn shale
Jajaja
fast hareBOT
Arctic#3883 has been warned.
dim river
I only fear one thing in tier 6 tourneys;
7-stack ARL players all from a tryhard clan
thorn shale
Don’t we all? But seriously tho can we unregister to change lineups since we had to rush yesterday and now rgn has all the time in the world? Please rexy allow us to unregister and reregister. @chilly terrace @thorn shale k thx
@thorn shale since registration is open till 11am EST tmmrw you should be able to unregister and re register with a team you want
mellow aurora
@chilly terrace I love you.
burnt ingot
Lol this is ridiculous tbh
harsh ember
Ridonculous
open zealot
Ima have to second the good rob sir
tall python
@chilly terrace what is the purpose behind extending the registration time only for NA? EU had 3 more teams registered than NA prior to the set registration time, yet their time was not extended. since when is the registration time EVER extended for professional-style tournaments, especially for money? is it truly so that every team can register, or is it for specific teams that you want to have your eyes on when you stream for more viewers? every server had strict guidelines and we all had to register within 24 hours, so why was NA extended despite only having 3 less teams compared to the EU server? i’m so glad WG is quick and ready to change the rules for a select few when more than half of the teams registered on time... but a player i know that played in 8 ascent tournaments that wasn’t in the clan prior to the tickets being given can’t get a ticket? Instead, he was told
“According to the data, you were not in the clan at the moment of receiving tickets that's why the ticket was not credited to the game account. Please know that tickets are credited automatically, we cannot credit your game account with this ticket manually. Please do not leave your clan in a crucial moment next time.” but now teams get an extra day to register, despite not registering “in a crucial moment” what a joke.
sinful crest
^^
proper kraken
Sub to auszaa
harsh ember
haha von
surreal hinge
but fr why did they extend the time, so that they can have their prized clan register, or is that not true?
tranquil vortex
I agree with @tall python - I remember there was a technical issues stopping my clan and one other from registering in a 'last chance' tournament that would've made a big difference for both teams. We were told it was too bad, even though multiple days were left until the tournament was going to be played.
Everyone on NA was aware of the closing time, so what's the problem? Tbh, I feel like boycotting now. This is really disapointing.
red vapor
very cool wg
sinful crest
I’d boycott but it’s not like it’d make a difference, I mean just look at what happened with RollingSwarm and the Atgms. A CC knew the mechanic was broken and spoke out but wargaming ignored . We’re speaking out and being ignored so GGS WP
mighty isle
mean last year the tournament boycott was actually successful
surreal hinge
as soon as rolling said atgms were broken he got ejected out of the cc program. just shows how strict wargaming is when powerful people try to talk.
also, im pretty sure i had a history lesson when the soviets did the same thing when people tried to talk bad against the regime 🤔
also @proper kraken lol
tall python
a boycott would only work if all the teams would agree to it, but unfortunately, this situation is actually benefiting teams. those teams won’t agree to a boycott, so that wouldn’t work.
proper kraken
sub 2 auszaa
dim river
not the place to advertise fam
thorn shale
Can y’all just deal with it? It is one team. You all are just pissed because you might lose to them. But let me tell you none of you will probably have to face them in the qualifying round tomorrow because they will get a by to the finals anyway like pramo did today earlier. Just relax and the bracket will do it’s job and you should qualify if your good enough
pale finch
I get why you’re mad, I’d have the same reaction if EG- or LGN forgot to register and it was extended farther, kinda disgusting act by WG.
fast hareBOT
nskhenekwif#3415 was muted
tranquil vortex
@thorn shale It's not about that, it's about WG making unfair exceptions to anyone. They denied re-opening broken tournaments in the past, so how is this fair? Just because someone forgot to sign up on time..
open zealot
@thorn shale I don’t think anyone said that we are pissed about a clan joining just bc we might lose to them, if you would read what people like tanner and shorty said u would understand that, so pls educate urself.
surreal hinge
no @thorn shale is a rgn fanboy and he wants clout with rgn obviously lol. but it is very unfair when a lazy team forgets to register and gets a mulligan because of their own fault. i get that wargaming wants these types of clans to be mainstream in the blitz community , but the fact that they have to do this blatant coverup to let this team have a second chance to win even though they shouldnt have had a chance at all to play since they didnt register in time really disgusts me.
@velvet lily sure it might be tier 8 but its a tourney that is being livestreamed and has monetary prizes attached to it as well, so the fact that this team shouldnt have a chance at the monetary prizes even though they do now creates the chaos and anger that you are seeing
velvet lily
Its tier 8, dont get so pressed
wraith idol
@velvet lily The "tier" is the least important, the point here is the obvious favoritism towards a particular clan
mighty isle
^^
velvet lily
I see your point
mild garden
I don’t understand why the registration times had to be so limited and why the guy who wasn’t in the clan when the tickets were given can’t just be given a ticket. This feels like an artificially created problem by wargaming that wouldn’t have had to occur if they just didn’t make stupid rules. Like they create these issues that gives rise to favoritism and players being upset when they didn’t need to exist in the first place
open zealot
To the argument that people are “pressed” about a tier 8 tournament, essentially by wg doing this ur setting a precedent for more important tournaments like twister. So indeed it can have implications on tournaments that might be “relevant” enough for u.
crisp shore
Please really don't use excuses like "it's just one team" or "it's just tier 8" to cover up what Wargaming did as a horrible precedent to future tournaments. Summer Season Championship involves real monetary prizes and intensive coverage that will bolster the reputation of the clan shall the clan does really well.
The deadline is here, written clearly in computer ink, and every team should honour this. If this supposed date is breached, why should clans respect that in the first place? Also consider applying for a scholarship, or submitting your university essay, or even applying for a prestigious competition, unless you have very very special circumstances, latecomers won't be accepted. To allow a clan to register late is unfair to clans who did register within the timeframe.
We can argue about how short the registration period is, but I cannot accept Wargaming "relocating the goal" because of vested interests.
mild garden
I mean if they qualified they deserve to be able to play, the issue about favoritism is that it’s just done for them, my point is be why not allow exceptions for all if they are reasonable enough, like the guy that couldn’t play because he wasn’t in clan when tickets were given. I don’t think that people would be mad then and there wouldn’t be stupid rules.
That’s why it shouldn’t be just for them. And stuff happens in life, that’s kinda harsh to have restricted rules and uphold them just for principle. The fact that’s it’s done only for them is blatantly wrong though
weak flame
It comes down to principle though - if they qualified but missed registration, that’s on them for not planning it out well. WG should not be re-opening registration for a tournament where a substantial sum of money is the reward just because a prominent clan missed sign-ups
surreal hinge
^
tranquil vortex
The registration for Summer Season Championship 2020 on NA will be prolonged until the 29th of July, 8:00 AM (PT) / 11:00 AM (ET)
@chilly terrace Can we please have an official reason for this happening? As far as I'm aware, we had no technical issues on NA and all other servers had registration close on time.
crisp shore
I mean if they qualified they deserve to be able to play... why not allow exceptions for all...
If you cannot abide by the deadline, you don't have a second chance, period. Unless very very special circumstances, like very personal issues with the team captain, no exceptions should be made. Deadlines are here for a reason: not to drag the tournaments for an excruciating amount of time. I don't care if they deserve to play or not just because they qualified if they cannot abide by simple stuff. Stuff happens in life, but we cannot set a terrible precedent such that other clans can start to take this as a reason not to abide by the deadline.
mild garden
@crisp shore what about the guy who was unable to participate despite having played in 8 ascents since he left his clan to to join another who had a level 10 supply to get a discount on tanks and didn’t receive the tickets, since he wasn’t in the clan at the time. Do you think an exception should be made for him
@abstract cloak read tanners original message, he has a point
abstract cloak
Why are any of you even against this? Not wanting to face RGN I guess? I don't see any reason to oppose to something as trivial as extended the registration deadline unless you have some reasonable fear with facing RGN.
I don't care what point is to be made about the deadline extension it's still such a trivial thing to get so worked up about.
I'm not even trying to defend RGN, I'm pretty sure WG would've done the same for any other major tournament because this has never happened before. Ofc they would want all the team slots filled.
proud holly
I have no context on anything but wouldn't an extended deadline benefit everybody? Unless you're telling me that WG extended it just for a single clan (eh??) I don't see what's neccesarily wrong aside from it being out of the ordinary
thorn shale
@abstract cloak ur about to get roasted like I did. They extended it for everyone. Pncr got another clan and multiple other clans can get their teams in. After all the better competition the better for a reward
velvet lily
🍿
tall python
@abstract cloak EU has 22/32 teams registered and they weren’t given an extension. NA is being given special attention for what reason? and if they’re giving other teams a chance to register, then the player i mentioned should have been given a ticket to participate. it’s that simple. the situation isn’t fair for all, and that’s the true problem.
crisp shore
what about the guy who was unable to participate despite having played in 8 ascents since he left his clan to to join another who had a level 10 supply to get a discount on tanks and didn’t receive the tickets, since he wasn’t in the clan at the time. Do you think an exception should be made for him
I would say no here. Yes he might have played a lot of times during the Ascent but there is a risk of losing out the prizes before they are accrued when you leave the clan. It is harsh on the player but I think it is justified.
I don't see any reason to oppose to something as trivial as extended the registration deadline...I'm not even trying to defend RGN, I'm pretty sure WG would've done the same for any other major tournament because this has never happened before. Ofc they would want all the team slots filled.
I'm not even facing RGN and I don't get the point why this is even trivial when it involves real money and intensive coverage. I just can't fathom why this is trivial at all when all the participants here are involved, and even since the draw has been announced. If this is trivial for you, please apply your scholarship/job/competition after the deadline, thank you.
And please why are we even comparing the ticket incident and the extended deadline in the first place?
near anvil
^well said
mild garden
^^^^^^^That’s what I was trying to say. I personally don’t think that deadlines should matter so much and that reasonable exceptions should be made. That’s why it’s extremely not fair that they make one exception and not others like for the eu teams and that one player. That’s a very bad and hypocritical way of conducting the tournament, either do it for all or none.
I think that was extremely well said, why was it removed?
glad glacier
@abstract cloak you see, I’m against this because wargaming isnt giving me any special treatment. I played 8 ascents in steeb and made top 8, but didnt get a ticket because I was in another clan (needed a clan with tier X clan supply). And yes, this is my fault and I accepted I cant play in the championship. I did not expect special treatment just because I made top 8, i messed up and should be held accountable. But seeing Reign get to mess up, and then not be held accountable is absolutely mind blowing to me. I sent a ticket to wargaming and they said it was an automatic process, and they could not put a ticket in my account manually (which I completely doubt), but when Reign needs the process to become manual, they automatically do it for them. How is our situation not different? We both missed deadlines, its just one of us is being held accountable.
flat goblet
So which clans/teams have even registered post announcement.
wraith idol
@glacial lantern "aprovecha el bug"
rotund jewel
To be fair, why was the exception even a thing?
I get that WG loves/wants to have top clans in the main "show", specially if you will stream the tournaments (as it will be).
Anyway, all of the teams that registered on time had to read the rules and work according to those.
The issue here is none other than, making even a little action to "help" or "dar palanca" to a specific group of people.
quoting tanner's message:
"A player i know that played in 8 ascent tournaments that wasn’t in the clan prior to the tickets being given can’t get a ticket? Instead, he was told
“According to the data, you were not in the clan at the moment of receiving tickets that's why the ticket was not credited to the game account. Please know that tickets are credited automatically, we cannot credit your game account with this ticket manually. Please do not leave your clan in a crucial moment next time.”
It is easier for WG to extend time for a clan to be registered, but not to give a single player a participant ticket.
IF you are feeling to "Too generous" and that's why you extended the registration time.
Being fair would be to Give to this player the ticket.
BUT as you're not giving this single player the ticket the most obvious question is:
**Why would you do so for a clan as RGN? **
For what I can tell you don't respect any other clans, and you demostrated that by doing this action.
Just to clarify, RGN is not the issue. The issue is you WG actually doing this favoritism actions in favor of ONLY them.
Either be partial and be "Generous" With all of your players, or "be fair" and say:
"Sorry but the deadline is closed, you should be more aware of the schedule".
I know WG don't respect players, not even CCs. Comp is not at its greatest moment and still doing this kind of absurd things.
-Be better, WG.
tropic lotus
WG has clearly extended the registration period to let RGN who seems to be an influential team/clan participate. This was to benefit them, knowing that they would attract attention and viewers on streams and elsewhere having RGN participate.
If it was a random clan they would have denied any requests to prolong registration. I’m not going to sugarcoat it; they did this to benefit themselves, not to benefit a clan that didn’t register on time.
Like @rotund jewel said above, its easier for y’all to extend registration for 10/20 players who didn’t pay attention and didn’t register on time, than to give a player a participant ticket that they deserve.
RGN not registering was an error on their part being the deadlines were there. vauv not getting a ticket was also an error on his part, but he didn’t know when the tickets would be distributed.
Both parties here made an error on their part, how is RGN still able to participate but vauv not?
surreal hinge
btw there are wargaming employees who are in rgn, 2 to be exact
slim token
I don’t understand why some of the posts are being deleted?
I don’t think most people are upset with RGN. They are frustrated because when similar issues happened before we were not given an extension.
There was tournament a while back that had the counter showing one time and then was changed in the middle of the night and hardly any teams made registration. We all begged for registration to be extended since the counter in game was what we were watching. It is just frustrating that we were told “sorry, the tournament regulations had the correct time, you should have registered in time.” and then this time it was extended.
Most of RGN’s posts saying thank you right after the announcement have been removed. They had also named their team this morning GodBlessRexy. If I was them I would have asked for an extension too (just like I did previously as mentioned above) and would have been super excited and thankful for the extension. It is just frustrating that when it happened to most of the other clans previously it didn’t matter, even though that time was a bug in the counter in game.
flat goblet
@mild river Thank you
crisp shore
Personally, I find it dangerous to compare the ticket incident with the extended deadline incident.
The decision on whether to grant the player the ticket is solely at the discretion from WG. You can argue that the player deserves a ticket for the contribution they have given during the course of the Ascent Tournaments. I think there is no right or wrong to whichever decision was made in the end.
However, the extended deadline incident is clearly an issue with Wargaming. I agree RGN is not the issue here, though it is their fault not to register in time. If they admit their messing up and not register for Summer Season Championship, this is fine and good ethics from them. What Wargaming has done here will shatter our trust towards them honouring their written rules, before the commencing of the event. This will set a horrible precedent for clans in future regarding registering their team in tournaments in time, or simply complying to the rules written on the tournament page. This is definitely a wrong from the WG side. Not even giving the player the ticket would change this fact that WG was sly on some "certain" interests by extending the deadline.
I disagree both issues are similar, since fundamentally they are different in nature.
Edit: Extending the deadline itself is a grey area itself. I could let it go if this was decided before registration ends. It should never be done especially when the draw has come out.
gentle sierra
Was Rgn the only clan that registered a team after the deadline was extended ? 🤔
uneven glacier
no i think 1 pncr team as well
chilly hemlock
@tropic lotus did you delete that?
surreal hinge
rgn actually hasnt registered any teams yet, but pncr added another small 8 man team to the field
@flat goblet haha get rekt nub jk
stiff haven
is this where i register for the haha funny?
flat goblet
From what I see, RGN haven't even registered. I only got a list of clans that registered and it seems to be the same, so only another clan got a second team thus far. Slowmode says andy beat me to it :p
thorn shale
Exactly rgn might not even register ._. The only team that has registered after the announcement is pncr. ok and? @glad glacier
thick elk
Everyone is basing their opinion off of a guess, we don’t even know this change was done because of rgn specifically(not taking sides), we will see what teams do end up registering
chilly hemlock
@tall python unreal
glad glacier
Rgn disbanded their team because the name was GodBlessRexy and made a second one...
chilly hemlock
How fitting
rotund jewel
@glad glacier There are 2 teams now.
1st TechTreeMatters2
2nd RGN
tight warren
...
sinful crest
abstract cloak
I'm gonna be neutral if this argument is about the underlying favoritism WG has towards certain teams as opposed to it just being about the deadline extension.
And before accusations of me defending the extension just so we can sneak another team in ourselves arise, just don't even.
If anything, I'd want there to be less competition, but that's not very sportsmanlike, is it?
tropic lotus
External big brain
surreal hinge
we werent worried on why you added another team, good for you taking advantage of the extension (in a good way). we're all just ticked off on why it happened in the first place @abstract cloak
chilly hemlock
There have been dozens of teams that haven’t registered in time and they have always been left out to dry. One of the best examples was SRT in the twister 2 season and the meme “better luck next year” was all over the place for them
flat goblet
Yeah and everyone in pramo memed them (I was there)
External being biggest brain here.
Tournament scene is a joke all around. It's exactly why I left it as a player. It's full of hypocrisy and jealousy.
chilly hemlock
But the point still stands. Tough luck
crisp shore
If my memory is not akin to a goldfish one, Wargaming did sneakily set the deadline of registration of one "relatively big" tournament a while ago (if I remember correctly that was Spring 2019 Last Chance Tournament, but my ailing memory couldn't confirm this as the case) a day before instead of the typical 1 hour before the tournament starts. Some clans did not realise this change and missed the registration. There were some big names there but no extension was made in the end if I remember correctly.
mellow jetty
yea, that happened, when my clan leader asked about it he was told tough luck, thats why people are pissed about this extension
naive bone
Dang this could've been the year STEEB 4-0'd everyone 😞
jovial moth
@chilly hemlock I’m pretty sure you used tough luck wrong there. Like for example, “You just got 5-0’d in the finals. Tough luck.”
@red vapor How is that toxic I was explaining a valid point?
chilly hemlock
Let me elaborate. If you don’t register in time, tough luck
red vapor
bruh @jovial moth toxic
tropic lotus
^
thorn shale
Can y’all just like leave it alone ._. What is done is done. Just play tomorrow and try to win. That is the only thing I could say. No matter the team we will try to qualify. Btw @open zealot I am educated 😉
open zealot
@thorn shale good 4 u
jovial moth
@chilly hemlock Yeah I guess, but did you understand my point of view? My example should have hit the spot
civic glacier
...just stop dude
glad glacier
@thorn shale wdym ok and? Do you not see the issue, they gave privilege to those who didn’t register in time but ignored my simple request that I also earned?thats precisely my point
thorn shale
@glad glacier well it is wg what did you expect. Your not any interest to them
glass orchid
sigh
pale finch
Well as I said before, I can understand your frustration and if it happened on EU I would also be upset, I think it’s a really bad decision by WG since it’s the responsibility of each team to follow the deadlines.
thorn shale
@chilly terrace how will the tournament seeding be figured out for the top 8 teams. The final stage tournament
thorn shale
So many good points being made here...
spiral fiber
HI u can edit msgs
obsidian vine
Tournament chat is wild
winter swallow
Speculating - but it could be due to how easy something is to do at the back end (lol)
Perhaps extending a registration deadline is a quick and easy fix, while giving extra tickets 🎫 is harder to do, likely without causing more problems than being solved?
The WG esports team try their best to make the field as fair in their eyes as possible. I doubt this is a case of privilege.
Top 8 seeding @thorn shale will likely be strongest weakest by win rate again.
verbal bridge
Ok
chilly terrace
Just to clarify: registration were extended due the following reasons, which were considered all together:
- There were only 19 teams from potential 32 in the tournament.
- Brackets would be changed anyway since they contain 5 groups, not 4.
- The registration time might be extended unlike other servers.
If there hadn't been at least one of these points, registration wouldn't have been extended.
flat goblet
Nvm, wrong chat
velvet lily
@flat goblet wrong chat
leaden belfry
Stream schedule for today:
EU:
Fugit555: [RA1D] RA1D vs. [VE1L] CARRY UP and till the end of tournament https://youtu.be/BYG4QvsAOak
3very: [ELEM] ELEMENTS vs. [-TTT-] BIG MEMES then [R-2-K] READY 2 KILL matches till the end of tournament. - portal stream
youtube: https://youtu.be/dvk_HJdgQ7U portal: https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/328/description/
Wildoneshelper: [TH1Q-] BRING BACK vs. [-TXC-] TOUCHBOTS then [EG-] ENDGAME till the final https://youtu.be/pAbkk0r2pKY
Amaunet85: [APA] 252U IS LIFE vs. [LC-] LOST MY WALLET then [LGN] LEGION till the final https://youtu.be/w352C6VdcaM
ASIA:
Fugit555: [R9] THAIBLITZ JEAB vs. [7KILL] 7KIDS-THIRD then [-ID-] TEAM ID till the final portal stream
youtube: https://youtu.be/UUCdbYGS8z8 portal: https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/303/description/
3very: [TCS-1] THE CRUEL STORM vs. [NEKO2] NEKO2 then [FEAST] WALLETGAMBLING vs. [K1NG] NOISY CICADAS till the final https://youtu.be/t_INETNLBZQ
NA not known yet because the registration period was extended
vital obsidian
@leaden belfry thank u 👍
solid pine
I wake up at 4 in the morning and oh what a convo I missed
crisp shore
Cheers!
covert rain
@leaden belfry hmm. where is SOULS. THOSE THEY NOT HAVE 2 TEAM
leaden belfry
@covert rain these aren't the matches in total, these are the matches that are being streamed. Hence why it's called 'stream schedule' ;)
covert rain
No shit. I didn't no that. 😜 2 teams out of 22. What are the chance of not pick 1 of them
pastel tartan
its because each group got 1 streamer, they got assigned more or less random,and both souls teams are on one half,the streamer got to follow the other tho
also in line with the teams we requested* @leaden belfry
man i hate slowmode :c
leaden belfry
WG has put us with those they feel are the biggest CW teams - Ra1d, R2K, EG and LGN
with a bit of luck, Souls meets up with one of them, and then they'll be streamed too
crisp shore
Group 3 will be the group of death I reckon so I expect a lot of excitement going to Fugit's stream, but that doesn't undermine the excitement in all other groups as well!
vale matrix
wtf happened lmao
winter swallow
@chilly terrace - Fugits stream is stuck on the loading screen.
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace - Fugits stream is stuck on the loading screen.
@winter swallow
He is writing me about that
winter swallow
OK good to know.
Now are WG really really really sure there aren't the ping issues players have been reporting on Asia server for over year now?
Because there's wonderful live evidence that you've got issues your side with tournaments and ping...
pastel tartan
dont think its the server,because i on the other hand have no issues
grand bear
woww
silver vapor
quite a bit of packet loss on my side
not unplayable but slightly annoying
around 1-10% pack loss
thorn shale
the ping issues on Asia is probably caused by server overload, because Tournament time, 7pm, is like the time most of us asians get off work and reach home, so perhaps they're in to enjoy the game for a bit and also there's a bunch of full teams getting online to play tournament too, so I'm quite sure it's just the server being unable to handle how many people are entering
I have a relatively stable internet connection and it only acts up at specific times like tournament time or lunch time, so i'm just making the assumption
upbeat iris
A clanmate of mine (EU) experienced the same thing in a tournament. For 4-5 QT’s in a row, he had perfect Ping, but had huge packet loss making him unable to play. His connection from his end was checked and was completely fine, and it only happened during tournament times. He wasn’t the only guy in our team suffering as well.
chilly terrace
A clanmate of mine (EU) experienced the same thing in a tournament. For 4-5 QT’s in a row, he had perfect Ping, but had huge packet loss making him unable to play. His connection from his end was checked and was completely fine, and it only happened during tournament times. He wasn’t the only guy in our team suffering as well.
@upbeat iris In such cases, he/they should do tracing to the our server and write ticket to the support with results.
chilly terrace
OK good to know.
Now are WG really really really sure there aren't the ping issues players have been reporting on Asia server for over year now?
Because there's wonderful live evidence that you've got issues your side with tournaments and ping...
@winter swallow
It wasn't server issue, by the way.
thorn shale
where can i see the stream?
pastel tartan
both asia streams have ended by now
silver vapor
Just to clarify: registration were extended due the following reasons, which were considered all together:
- There were only 19 teams from potential 32 in the tournament.
- Brackets would be changed anyway since they contain 5 groups, not 4.
- The registration time might be extended unlike other servers.
If there hadn't been at least one of these points, registration wouldn't have been extended.
@chilly terrace Asia had the first point fulfilled, I've just caught on so I'm actually curious why didn't Asia got an extension as well as you said "at least one of these points" and I'm not sure what you mean by 3rd point
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace Asia had the first point fulfilled, I've just caught on so I'm actually curious why didn't Asia got an extension as well as you said "at least one of these points" and I'm not sure what you mean by 3rd point
@silver vapor
Registration is closed so early in major tournaments, because we need to do some preparation after registration is closed. We can't extend registration on ASIA because in this case we wouldn't be able to do everything in time.
tall python
i don’t understand how you have a set of reasons as to why you would extend the registration of a major tournament, yet you don’t follow your own set of reasons on every server.
chilly terrace
i don’t understand how you have a set of reasons as to why you would extend the registration of a major tournament, yet you don’t follow your own set of reasons on every server.
@tall python
I think you can call at least one server that under all three points mentioned before.
tall python
that’s exactly my point. there were 2 servers that met the reasons that you stated, yet you only extended the registration for one of the servers? how is that fair at all? if you won’t follow your own rules in place for all the servers if it applies to them, then why have those rules at all?
chilly terrace
that’s exactly my point. there were 2 servers that met the reasons that you stated, yet you only extended the registration for one of the servers? how is that fair at all? if you won’t follow your own rules in place for all the servers if it applies to them, then why have those rules at all?
@tall python
What server under all 3 points mentioned above? At least the second point applied only to NA, because there were wrong created brackets.
silver vapor
What server under all 3 points mentioned above? At least the second point applied only to NA, because there were wrong created brackets.
@chilly terrace just curious, couldn't you guys just recreate the brackets in that case? I don't really see a need to extend registration if it was a bracket issue
jovial moth
@tall python this seems more personal to RGN from your side. I’ve been on Eu for a while now and look how Zird always comparing about seeding in this chat because he is afraid of LGN/EG. It seems you are doing this because you are afraid of RGN/competition.
pale finch
@silver vapor
Registration is closed so early in major tournaments, because we need to do some preparation after registration is closed. We can't extend registration on ASIA because in this case we wouldn't be able to do everything in time.
@chilly terrace lol what, so you could extend one server but not the others ones...?
tall python
when did i ever say i was afraid of RGN? i never even mentioned their clan when speaking in this chat about this specific issue. it’s clear that this situation isn’t fair for all involved. a person i know can’t get a ticket despite playing 8 ascent tourneys just because he wasn’t in the clan, yet there were possible 13 teams that could’ve had another chance to register? how is that fair? i could care less who i have to play you clearly don’t know who i am or who PRAMO is. @jovial moth
thorn shale
^
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace just curious, couldn't you guys just recreate the brackets in that case? I don't really see a need to extend registration if it was a bracket issue
@silver vapor
As I wrote all these reasons were being considered all together.
thorn shale
Btw everyone rgn didn’t even register @red vapor and that is the pncr team
red vapor
wow only 20 teams 1 more than last time, very cool wg
sturdy quail
What is this?
jovial moth
@tall python You’re right I don’t know who PRAMO is. Maybe it’s cause they lost spring to Void and Twister to RGN in 2019 and everyone forgot about them.
languid timber
i see
thorn shale
Where can i see the stream?
wet tide
@tall python You’re right I don’t know who PRAMO is. Maybe it’s cause they lost spring to Void and Twister to RGN in 2019 and everyone forgot about them.
@jovial moth I feel some salt comin
celest sequoia
@jovial moth yet they 5-0 RGN this year
Wait I think it was 4-0
tall python
@tall python
What server under all 3 points mentioned above? At least the second point applied only to NA, because there were wrong created brackets.
@chilly terrace
correct, but your original message about the “reasons” for extending the registration states that you need “at least one” and you had at least one for ASIA, yet you didn’t extend their registration
tranquil vortex
=
- The registration time might be extended unlike other servers.
@chilly terrace
Was this written anywhere in the rules? I think you need to be very transparent about this, because almost every team is upset about this move and will discourage some from playing in the future.
Especially when you have refused to re-open major tournaments in the past when technical issues displayed the wrong closing time.
Also, you say that only 19/32 teams signed up was a valid reason to re-open. All but one possible clans signed up. If you wanted to see more teams, you need to inform clans in advance that it is possible to create two teams. This was written no where in game, and therefor my clan did not have time to prepare for a second team because of the ticket situation.
The only issues I can understand here is the brackets, but I still don't see how that warrants extending the sign up by 24 hours.
thorn shale
Steve that’s major facts my guy
tropic lotus
RGN not registering was most likely intentional. Due to the commotion about initially extending the deadline for what we thought was to let RGN in, they either chose to or were told not to registrate in order to save face for themselves and WG.
I can’t think of any other reason they wouldn’t registrate after having the opportunity to do so twice, as well as renaming the first team to a better name that wouldn’t cause further issues which would indicate them participating. I’m not trying to justify or side with either party to be clear, I’m just objectively providing my irrelevant opinion.
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace
correct, but your original message about the “reasons” for extending the registration states that you need “at least one” and you had at least one for ASIA, yet you didn’t extend their registration
@tall python
It happened because of misunderstanding.
"If there hadn't been at least one of these points, registration wouldn't have been extended."
I thought my phrase above has opposite meaning.
chilly hemlock
@jovial moth it has nothing to do with “competition” or rgn themselves. It has everything to do with precedent and consistency, which there is none of
It sounds like NA and Asia both were in the same situation. Na was extended and Asia was not and that doesn’t make any sense
Both servers had 19/32
chilly terrace
Both servers had 19/32
@chilly hemlock
Please, read what I wrote before. Matches on ASIA start a bit earlier (literally 14 hours before the NA) .
thorn shale
@thorn shale who are you streaming. And @chilly hemlock good luck we won’t go easy.
chilly hemlock
So that makes sense as to why you don’t extend Asia. It’s unfair though to extend NA when you can’t extend others
chilly terrace
So that makes sense as to why you don’t extend Asia. It’s unfair though to extend NA when you can’t extend others
@chilly hemlock
It isn't unfair. It just gives more time to register for these teams that have already won the right to be in this tournament, if it's possible.
shrewd iron
@chilly terrace Do top 8 teams from the asia team make final stage or top 4. Because i don't see the point of finals of the group stage today if 2 teams were always going to make it? There were only 4 groups.. (single elimination)
chilly hemlock
When you can’t treat all of the servers equally, by definition it is unfair
pastel tartan
@chilly terrace Do top 8 teams from the asia team make final stage or top 4. Because i don't see the point of finals of the group stage today if 2 teams were always going to make it? There were only 4 groups.. (single elimination)
@shrewd iron the top 8 according to the info ingame
chilly terrace
When you can’t treat all of the servers equally, by definition it is unfair
@chilly hemlock
By definition, everything in tournaments is unfair, because someone lives in more convenient time zone or someone in the clan and he can participate in the clan tournament.
chilly hemlock
You sign up for that by playing on servers through multiple time zones
And we all live with time zones. With sports and tv etc
chilly terrace
You sign up for that by playing on servers through multiple time zones
@chilly hemlock
As you sign up to participate in tournament with 32 teams.
glad sphinx
:o
upbeat iris
You don’t sign up for dates to be moved?
chilly hemlock
Up to 32. Doesn’t say it can’t have less
chilly terrace
You don’t sign up for dates to be moved?
@upbeat iris
Dates of tournament were not moved. I see only one reason, why this decision may be considering in a bad way. When your team wants to see as less opponents as possible in the tournament. Anyway we got your main point.
Up to 32. Doesn’t say it can’t have less
@chilly hemlock
Doesn't say registration can't be extended.
As you can see everything depends on point of view. We didn't count that this decision has bad sides besides negative reaction from teams that want to see as less opponents as possible. We will take into account current actual reaction in the further.
vital obsidian
will autumn season have a similar structure as this summer tour?
woven meadow
I can guarantee that if my clan didn’t register WG would have told us to piss off and read the rules. Why have double standards?
@tranquil vortex#3754 that’s the date of the realistic tournament?
chilly terrace
I can guarantee that if my clan didn’t register WG would have told us to piss off and read the rules. Why have double standards?
@woven meadow
The reasons why we opened registration again doesn't contain "someone asked us to do this".
will autumn season have a similar structure as this summer tour?
@vital obsidian
Nope, it will be different.
tranquil vortex
@chilly terrace I think you are misunderstanding why people are angry. Please look at the PM's between us both on 22/08/2019 - Multiple clans wrote to you that day, and I know this as it has been referenced by several people since yesterday in this chat. This is why they are upset.
For a major tournament that involves money, these actions have set a bad precedent. We sign up fully understanding the rules and terms provided, and hope that both WG and the players follow them. Saying that it "Doesn't say registration can't be extended" is also bad, because it also doesn't say a lot of things. We expect that if something isn't started in the rules already, then it isn't valid. We are players are agreeing to play under the already written rules and conditions, the same way someone reads a document before signing.
surreal hinge
It just happened to coincide that you extended the time when a top 8 clan that has close ties with wargaming employees didnt register, also called favoritism. Just because you extended the time doesnt mean people are going to join, it doesn't work like that. Only 1 more team registered which made it 20/32, which doesn't really make a difference other than making 10 matches at the same time (theoretically). Again, i really dont care that the top 8 clan didnt register in time for the original deadline, thats their fault. But like i said, it slanders the reputation of competitiveness when you coincidentally extend the time when you only gain another team registration.
EDIT: Im not accusing wargaming of having favoritism, im just trying to show the potential evidence that you have that caused players to accuse you of said favoritism.
winter swallow
@thorn shale - WR seeding is hypothetically done on the strongest 7 players in the team.
chilly terrace
@chilly terrace I think you are misunderstanding why people are angry. Please look at the PM's between us both on 22/08/2019 - Multiple clans wrote to you that day, and I know this as it has been referenced by several people since yesterday in this chat. This is why they are upset.
For a major tournament that involves money, these actions have set a bad precedent. We sign up fully understanding the rules and terms provided, and hope that both WG and the players follow them. Saying that it "Doesn't say registration can't be extended" is also bad, because it also doesn't say a lot of things. We expect that if something isn't started in the rules already, then it isn't valid. We are players are agreeing to play under the already written rules and conditions, the same way someone reads a document before signing.
@tranquil vortex
The "Doesn't say" argument was used to show how bad such arguments work.
Both our decisions were fully explained. And I hope that you looked at mentioned discussion again and find out that there were two completely different situations. In situation, which happened 22/08/2019, we couldn't extend registration time because we wouldn't have enough time to set up this tournament and registration in this tournament had been prolonged before. There were 4 days to register. In current case, there was only one day.
woven meadow
Is this going to start a precedent where we don't have to follow the posted rules? Rules were posted with a specific date. If it:
Doesn't say registration can't be extended.
@chilly terrace
Does that mean we don't have to follow any of the rules you wrote down?
It might say that we have to play on touch but I don't see where it says
PC could be introduced if we want it to.
WG has a strong precedent of saying "Should have read the rules" and of not caring if tournaments are full. Why the sudden change?
glad glacier
@chilly hemlock
It isn't unfair. It just gives more time to register for these teams that have already won the right to be in this tournament, if it's possible.
@chilly terrace what about my right to play in the tournament, I didn’t get an extension. I earned my ticket fair and square but I can’t get one?
tropic lotus
Its not like he knew when tickets were going to be distributed and intentionally left the clan at that time. Can you blame him for going to another clan to equip the tanks he’d use for less credits?
thorn shale
It’s almost like the two situations are completely different and Rexy has addressed both multiple times and said very clearly that a ticket can’t be given out
I’d say the topic has run its course. Asking the same questions over and over again isn’t going to get different results
formal nymph
How do you get the charms?
thorn shale
@formal nymph charms for what? (You can edit your message to answer)
grave scarab
I’m just reading what’s the situation kinda lost...
tall python
@thorn shale nothing you say? WG having a set of criteria to use to extent registration times for servers and only using it on one server when it applies to two of them is nothing? WG bending rules and doing whatever they please is nothing? the answers they have provided to us have been very unclear as to why they extended NA, but not ASIA or any other server. we have a right to find out the reasons behind this nonsense.
upbeat iris
As an independent (nothing to gain or lose) reader I’d agree that the answers were not clear at all, but it was clear as to why an individual that left the clan for whatever reason can’t be awarded a ticket.
chilly hemlock
Asking the same questions won’t get us anywhere but on the same basis, we should extend the window so that people voices can be heard if they have thoughts on the matter
I would argue that people are more annoyed/worried about precedent and what it means for the future than this individual incident
shrewd iron
Who cares... lets move on. Us asia guys were barely affected if I'm honest... goodluck and i hope PRAMO does well 🙂
icy bloom
Lol @surreal hinge get muted
jovial moth
@shrewd iron Honestly. Let’s just enjoy the game now instead of bickering
timid torrent
Yeah lots are hatefull
thorn shale
@tall python I mean you clearly have a vendetta that I can’t stop. But it seems to me Rexy’s explanations have been pretty transparent. I’m not sure why you’re saying there’s any “nonsense” going on
chilly hemlock
@shrewd iron thanks man
chilly hemlock
@tall python Lol im glad to see I’m not the only one who “has a vendetta”
flat goblet
I don’t see how people actually believe that some behind the scenes voodoo actually happened, especially those from PRAMO. In my time in PRAMO as an officer, I don’t think I ever saw WG bend for a request like that. It definitely did happen too, where a team was not registered on time by mistake.
No respect on any side here.
chilly hemlock
We’ve voiced our opinions on the matter. As have plenty of others. It just so happens to be that Rgn are involved and the ones to potentially benefit from a decision to extend the registration on one server and not the other 3-4.
This isn’t personal. This has everything to do with the future after a decision like this
thorn shale
@chilly hemlock except RGN are only involved by non-RGN people who are dragging our name into this. We didn’t even register a team for personal reasons. Not sure why we continue to be associated with this
glad glacier
Remember this
chilly hemlock
Because you were the biggest name to not register after being second in the standings?
Also you had two teams set to register and didn’t?
Not to mention the main team got disbanded
thorn shale
@glad glacier yea. Team members were happy after seeing registration was reopened. Not sure what else you’re getting from that
chilly hemlock
So I couldn’t imagine why others would drag you into that
chilly hemlock
It’s just a big coincidence
thorn shale
So if you could keep your conspiracy theories to yourself that would be nice
chilly hemlock
No. You had them on stand by for whatever reason. Which makes no sense to anyone who knows anything about comp
near anvil
No need to drag RGN through the mud. If WG extended the registration b/c they wanted RGN to play, that’s on WG
fast hareBOT
iRaikkonen [C8.R]#5070 has been warned.
chilly hemlock
See you in the fall man
thorn shale
They didn’t open anything for RGN. Read Rexys explanation.
tropic lotus
No. You had them on stand by for whatever reason. Which makes no sense to anyone who knows anything about comp
@chilly hemlock ^
@jovial moth what’s the point of that?
jovial moth
@chilly hemlock You say “See you in the fall man” but I haven’t seen you at a global tournament in 2+ years. Congrats to winning spring, but can you win it when it really matters? Twister cough cough
civic glacier
Yikes
flat goblet
That’s pretty toxic
chilly hemlock
Look. Tj and I just worked things out. Let me clarify. Im upset at WG. NOT RGN. They are caught in the crossfire
I think this is a bad precedent for the game and all servers. Let alone na
tall python
@jovial moth i don’t see how your input is beneficial at all to this conversation at hand, but please go on and embarrass yourself more. we could all use a laugh.
thorn shale
@jovial moth chill. There’s no need for clan shaming. Continue and you’ll get sat out
neon thistle
yikes
narrow meteor
Like tantan
atomic tartan
Enough is bloody enough. Jesus christ people. I made the team called GodBlessRexy. It was named that because Wargaming extended the deadline. And I disbanded the team because it is our fault that we messed up registering when we should have done it with everyone else, and it would be unfair to backdoor a 20th team into the registration. I don’t know who started the idea that we are behind the extension in here, but if they have actual hard proof I’d sure like to see it. Hopefully that clears things up for the majority of you in here. Otherwise, enough with these baseless conspiracy theories and put away the tin foil hats. This is ridiculous
thorn shale
^
And in case anyone isn’t perfectly clear, RGN has no teams in the tournament. There’s no harm done, and I’d say the topic has run its course
Let’s kindly move on
glad glacier
Let’s place bets on team tank composition, and who will have the least 252s- the newest handicap in the game!
harsh ember
doomd has 7 252us
o7 @near anvil
tranquil anvil
wazooper noob
near anvil
o7 doomd lead @harsh ember
hallow mulch
o7 RGN thanks for having more morals that WG, also blory we have 9 🙂
thorn shale
@hallow mulch noob
flat goblet
7 252 is too many. 4 and 3 caern AX
thorn shale
@hallow mulch 👀 I think we have a total of like 5-6 in the clan. I’m jealous 😂
Good luck to you guys for the tourney tho )
acoustic garden
Hisroyalfatness 👀
dry flint
Yeah this is why I didn’t even bother playing tier 8. I would be a handicap and the amount of effort needed to maximum win 200 bucks wasn’t worth it considering what I could do with that time. Grades/games 😎
naive bone
wg should stealth nerf the 252 and AX just for this tourney
barren imp
@jovial moth just for context - are you a twister player yourself?
thorn shale
@barren imp don’t escalate. It’s over and done
hallow mulch
@thorn shale ty lol we have like 13 252s between our 2 teams.
glad glacier
God bless 252
subtle badge
. . .
fast hareBOT
_Yüzde [SYKO-]#6464 has been warned.
spark marsh
how long it will take stream ?
thorn shale
How to waste 4 weeks playing t8
(15 minutes cooldown, i guess they expect a spam bs of this op mm xD)
this tournament format is a joke
signal comet
yes
mild river
Guess you can say, you weren’t Ready2Adapt? 😂😂😂, jk jk jk @thorn shale
thorn shale
It should definitely be based on seeding. some teams not as deserving as top 8 as some others are gonna get it because of this wr seeding. Like yes you can screw us in ascents and we will get through it even tho our wr makes our seeding bad, but at least give us a break in the championship. Base it on positions not wr @hallow mulch don’t kill me
proud holly
All I got from this was:
- Conspiracies are doo doo
- Curt's MAD saucy
🤷♂️
fast hareBOT
Ventiom#2566 was muted
pallid raven
Ngl watching Tier 8 tournament is actually quite interesting. At least it's something new for the viewers.
thorn shale
Yes, go mute him. Maybe some more needs to tell you that this system is bad. But yeah, dont listen to your players. Keep muting, great job. 👌
night oriole
Fix yr game pls
agile depot
specialists are working on it @thorn shale
😂👌