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thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 7:46 AM

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t22 is not that broken like sheridan missiles but still better than others meds
that is doing better than others meds for this wg dont even post t22 stats when share the update stats chart
@glass thunder remember, T-22 probably has a higher number of pro/high-level players using it. It's hella expensive/hard to get.

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 8:10 AM

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the thing is who would buy a t10 tank with 4% drop rate in a 10€ chest if the tank isnt clearly better than tech tree ones

Just take a look with other t10 collector tanks; they are not better than tech tree tank so there is x4 malus players in badger and t95e6 than in t22. And t22 has been sold only in crates with -5% drop rate, and t95e6 was in shop without crates so lets not even imagin how much money raised the t22 compared to other collectors that are as good as tech tree tanks
@azure pecan - hard to compare different types of tanks. In general, more people play Tier X mediums than turretless TDs. BUT. Agreed. The Badger and T95E6 are not stronger than tech tree counterparts (they aren't terrible either). The BEST way to see how strong a tank is, is to see its relative usage during high level comps (Ascents - Professionals). The tournament scene has a knack for finding and exploiting the best in-game assets in order to win. Kudos to them. That is the whole point of tournaments.

gentle sierra Apr 22, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Isnt it clear already after like a year the t22 has been introduced ? Lmao

glass thunder Apr 22, 2020, 11:10 AM

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wg will nerf the t22 so why not buff the obj140
well no need meds are ok only progetto bad for now

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 11:24 AM

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@glass thunder they will nerf it? where did u see that? @thorn shale the badger is stronger than its tech tree counterpart, if u consider that to be the e3

gentle sierra Apr 22, 2020, 11:41 AM

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Progetto bad zulul

glass thunder Apr 22, 2020, 11:43 AM

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badger is totally useless in cws , yes progetto is doing worst than other meds ez https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/502017295107883008/689796230817382481/6.8_-_tier_10.png?width=863&height=475

gentle sierra Apr 22, 2020, 11:46 AM

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Badger is not useless in cws , depends on the map and the strat being used , gl doing anything to a hull down badger , and since when do average stats on a server matter in cws ?

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 11:47 AM

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^ Badger definitely is not useless right now, ESPECIALLY that we barely see TDs, only a TD can counter the hulldown badger. @thorn shale chinese wz not even close, no armour. Badger does better because after all the cupola on the e3 can be penned, granted not very often. But unlike the hulldown badger with no weakspots for heavies and meds, E3 can still be penned.

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@glass thunder they will nerf it? where did u see that? @thorn shale the badger is stronger than its tech tree counterpart, if u consider that to be the e3
@thorn shale debatable in tournaments - it has less alpha and I believe the traverse is worse. Agreed in randoms. TBH the e3, badger and chinese wz td are all similar concept. Strong front armour and sweet noting else.

@glass thunder - progetto was dominant at twister 2019 because of clip. People are starting to realise that heavy HP buff is a defacto clipper nerf. 2x 50bs could clip-out an is4 with some luck / a hit already taken. - now 3x 50bs can barely clear an is4

Couple that with Sheridan being counterable by DPM, and the Russian mediums are strong generalists augmented by STB1s for ridge fights.

glass thunder Apr 22, 2020, 11:48 AM

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i dont see others use progetto in spring + badger ? never saw it in cws or maybe just few ave it

gentle sierra Apr 22, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Very few people have the badger thats the reason you dont see it

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 12:05 PM

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May I just ask why this debate is cropping up again?

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We had massive amounts of conversation about T22/Collector tanks during Twister online, and WG made their stance very clear that they won’t do anything

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I don’t see why anyone thinks that all of a sudden WG will change their mind

glass thunder Apr 22, 2020, 12:08 PM

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not all talk about t22 that general tanks talk + others still think t22 is better than others meds so they keep talk about it

jade spoke Apr 22, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Why Premium tanks can’t be nerfed in blitz but they can be buffed? Hmmm

glass thunder Apr 22, 2020, 12:25 PM

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btw you must stop say in wot pc wg already said blitz is not a mobile version of wot pc its a different game

jade spoke Apr 22, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Same company, one coming years after another, same tanks, same mechanics, same stats. Yes they are two different games,but don’t pretend like you took 0 things out of wot pc and made blitz from complete scratch.

rotund vapor Apr 22, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Our tournament team is STPD3

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Tier V-IV

pallid raven Apr 22, 2020, 1:26 PM

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@lime glen 1500 battles seems very legit... Definitely not a bot

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For the Ru server, are you telling me someone played 2536 battles over 6 days. This Means he played 422.6 battles a day, with an average battle time of 3.2 played for 22.5 hours every day for 6 days straight... Like really come on. Don't give it to a bot... Give it to people who actually tried. @lime glen @thorn shale

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azure pecan Apr 22, 2020, 1:37 PM

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xD might not be a bot but just 5guys playing on the account and sucuiding as fast as possible
Also on ru i think that waiting time to find a battle are shorter than anywhere else

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hopefully they check then @pallid raven, but battles are really shorter than 3.2mins if u suicid

pallid raven Apr 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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If account sharing was allowed i guess I should have done it myself

azure pecan Apr 22, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Lets say he takes only light tanks and suicid mega fast in 1min
Then lets say 500mins a day because of charging times
500mins=8.3hours a day which is ez doable for an human. And well if he has a brother playing wotb in his house, they can share the acc with same IP so

jade spoke Apr 22, 2020, 1:44 PM

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It should have been given to who won the most games, not to the one that just yoloes and dies in 1 min and onto next battle

pallid raven Apr 22, 2020, 1:44 PM

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They should reveal their average damage.

It is definitely not a coincidence that asia, Na and EU have similar number's.

pallid raven Apr 22, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Atleast some proof that they are actually real players would be nice

cloud zinc Apr 22, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Why doesn't cameramode still work on tournamentroom for reserve players?

versed field Apr 22, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I think because its deleting that no one can spec lead.

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 2:54 PM

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imagine a banning system in each tournament, where each team bans, let’s say, 2 tanks. Would solve all issues 🙂

south estuary Apr 22, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Streamers have to learn how to moove the camera when the battle starts(learn from Rolling) it s free. Great teams streaming bad ;)

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 2:59 PM

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I only get ammoracked whenever I play t22 so I would say its pretty balanced

glass thunder Apr 22, 2020, 3:12 PM

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true its looks like a bot the max a human can do it 200 per day ( i did it once xd ) but that make you so tired else if he was doing yolo and die fast so he can playwith other tank

vital obsidian Apr 22, 2020, 3:12 PM

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I think I heard spec removed cause there is 10 players per team. usually there is 9 which gives spot to one streamer. To make room to the streamer in spring all spec removed

stark crow Apr 22, 2020, 3:16 PM

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@thorn shale you like r6 right?

south estuary Apr 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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We don t have a professional streamer at this momment.

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 3:18 PM

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we lost our only good one u mean

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@stark crow Yeah haha, League of Legends too, and i can definitely say the draft pick modes are effective and people like it, also this is how new metas come to light. And counter metas.

south estuary Apr 22, 2020, 3:22 PM

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@thorn shale yea. Last week was too hard to follow ur team. Meh....R1B should learn english ;))))))))

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Or we should learn german 🇩🇪

glass thunder Apr 22, 2020, 3:34 PM

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we still have amaunet

versed field Apr 22, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Agree with that we should just learn germany xD

south estuary Apr 22, 2020, 3:52 PM

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:)))) oook let s do this :)))

thorn shale Apr 22, 2020, 6:57 PM

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@thorn shale ask in #tourneys-team-search

upper oar Apr 22, 2020, 7:56 PM

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@restive cedar #tourneys-team-search

rugged wasp Apr 23, 2020, 5:05 AM

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the things is why my invitation is gone when i switched from PC to Mobile? i had to decline the invitation in PC and join my team in Mobile (instead accepting invitation) and that is really hassle

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And this mobile screenshot taken right after i got invitation on PC

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azure pecan Apr 23, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Yes tournament invits are insanely laggy since everytime, just ask your leader to kick you and let you apply

glass thunder Apr 23, 2020, 9:46 AM

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i did try to accept for more than 1h

chilly terrace Apr 23, 2020, 9:46 AM

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the things is why my invitation is gone when i switched from PC to Mobile? i had to decline the invitation in PC and join my team in Mobile (instead accepting invitation) and that is really hassle
@rugged wasp
Thank you for your report! We'll look into it.

pallid raven Apr 23, 2020, 10:41 AM

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@chilly terrace are you not going to look into the winners of the gravity comp?

chilly terrace Apr 23, 2020, 11:05 AM

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@pallid raven All winners were checked before publishing the results. So there are not any rule violations here.
By the way, it's not tournament related topic. If it is keep discussing non-tournament topics in this channel, we'll return 30 minutes slowmode.

pallid raven Apr 23, 2020, 11:12 AM

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Not like there is anywhere to talk about it... Since the gravity channel was prematurely removed.

chilly terrace Apr 23, 2020, 11:25 AM

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@pallid raven #general-blitz-discussion for instance. It's more suitable then tournament channel.

pallid raven Apr 23, 2020, 11:41 AM

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But you won't reply there, atleast you read this chat.

thorn shale Apr 23, 2020, 12:00 PM

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@pallid raven he can easily check the pings though 🤷‍♂️

pallid raven Apr 23, 2020, 12:05 PM

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I have tried it else where and the percentage of response decreases

azure pecan Apr 23, 2020, 12:41 PM

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True tournament Channel is tbh one of the closest Channel to wg but if you want to keep it like this respect the topic as much as possible, it was obvious that they checked

There should be another Channel like this where wg answers, because there are others topics interesting to discuss with, but as ting said its impossible to get an answer in #general-blitz-discussion, or even others channels from "chat with devs" category

chilly terrace Apr 23, 2020, 12:43 PM

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I have tried it else where and the percentage of response decreases
@pallid raven Because this channel has less more participants since it's about tournaments. All messages in all channels are read. So if you continue use this channel in a wrong way, I'll have to restrict you from writing here.

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True tournament Channel is tbh one of the closest Channel to wg but if you want to keep it like this respect the topic as much as possible, it was obvious that they checked

There should be another Channel like this where wg answers, because there are others topics interesting to discuss with, but as ting said its impossible to get an answer in #general-blitz-discussion, or even others channels from "chat with devs" category
@azure pecan It was an instance. He could use #news-discussion for this question since it was news about winners of gravity challenge winners.

azure pecan Apr 23, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Who answers in #news-discussion ?

As i see only moderators are here and most likely its only to moderate the channel

chilly terrace Apr 23, 2020, 12:50 PM

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And also I just want to clarify: you can receive quick answer here, because this channel is ONLY about the tournaments. That's why you shouldn't use this channel for any other reasons. Answers in other channels can take more time just because there are much more topics in other channels.

chilly terrace Apr 23, 2020, 2:52 PM

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@eternal fox This is tournament channel. There is #off-topic-discussion for "hi" and such stuff.

fast hareBOT Apr 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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dynoSuccess Karim [ZNTH]#0165 has been warned.

onyx pelican Apr 23, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Everyone in the clan, which placed in middle or top echelon can get a ticket to pro or challengers tournament? If so, what’s the deadline of joining a clan, which placed in on of those 2 echelons and still getting a ticket to pro/challengers tournament?

south estuary Apr 23, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Please someone ..teach Amaunet how to use camera when she is streaming tournaments

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I tried to, but she just won't listen 🤷‍♀️

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Luckily, you've four streams to choose from tonight, so you're free to watch someone else =)

thorn shale Apr 23, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Level of respect and chill is unbeliable. @leaden belfry class 👏

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 5:38 PM

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thank you =)

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I'm no Brian, I'm very aware of that, but I do my best in my own way. Not everyone will like the way I stream and commentate, and that's fine. Can't please everyone

south estuary Apr 23, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@thorn shale bla bla bla :)

thorn shale Apr 23, 2020, 5:43 PM

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@south estuary show some respect. You need to be very pretentious to have so many issues with how Amaunet streams. I’m okay, not for you to worry, don’t act like i am overreacting here please 🙂

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 5:44 PM

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let him be

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as I said, can't please everyone

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he's free to start a youtube channel and try it out for himself if he wants things done exactly as he wants it =)

south estuary Apr 23, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Lovely voice, Amaunet. U know what u are talking about, u know how to explain. But that camera..ufff... @thorn shale ? Are u ok? Where u saw the disrespect? Take it easy

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Thank you

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Brian shows people more close up, personally, I prefer the birdseye-view as I feel it shows more of the battle. The constant movement is because WG told me repeatedly they don't like me 'hovering', as it doesn't look dynamic enough

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so while not perfect, I'm kind of using a medium of the two

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anyhow, time to do some dodgy camera work again ;) See you on youtube =)

south estuary Apr 23, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Now i see. Ok..sorry. Now i know u are trying ur best. Ok. I will be there😜😍🤣🤣 Sorry sorry sorry for everything ;)

vital obsidian Apr 23, 2020, 6:00 PM

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who 4 are streaming eu? i can see ingame only 3

thorn shale Apr 23, 2020, 6:03 PM

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@vital obsidian i think she meant 4 streamers-4 servers

tranquil seal Apr 23, 2020, 6:15 PM

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English please.

south estuary Apr 23, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I asked maximov to speak with me in private

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@vital obsidian 3very was streaming too - he followed EG today

vital obsidian Apr 23, 2020, 9:24 PM

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@leaden belfry thanks! They could announce those somewhere, need find the stream and watch later

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I'll keep in mind - I've asked wg to tell me who's streaming what, and I announce it on my server

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Just not here 😅

vital obsidian Apr 23, 2020, 9:38 PM

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there is links in game but only 3 for tonight 🤷‍♀️

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I know - they forgot to add 3very's link

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And last time Ninja wasn't listed in game

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So it's not full proof, so to speak

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So posting a little list here might help people find it better than the links in game

arctic axle Apr 23, 2020, 11:11 PM

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@leaden belfry I just have a question, why are WG telling you how to move your camera in a tournament you volunteered to stream for free...

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Because I've asked them how to improve multiple times over the years to try and get better 😂

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I used to ask that of my viewers too, but as that generally didn't give me any feedback, and with wg preferring other streamers over me, asking them instead then is a good way to go

analog osprey Apr 23, 2020, 11:21 PM

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U need to sleep too

tranquil seal Apr 23, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Could it be useful having a dedicated camera operator and a separate commentator?

fervent bloom Apr 23, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Well that could be good but would add even more complexity considering how the current spectator system works

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@tranquil seal no that's actually horrible

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Remember the first online finals Brian streamed? He saw what he chose to see, but wg directed what we saw

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So he'd be commentating on one side of the battle, whereas the viewers saw something else entirely

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There's no ideal system. Though I'm more worried of the camera lag I've been experiencing the last couple of streams. Still no idea if that's the game or my laptop messing up 🤔

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The dedicated camera operator would work if the commentator sees the same thing - like at offlines. But then you'd get like a stream of a stream, so to speak 🤔

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And the camera work might still not be how you want it 😅

tranquil seal Apr 23, 2020, 11:43 PM

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It's of course something to take into account. May be an advantage and a disadvantage at the same time. But I remember watching some esport match in which they did as I suggested and it was very well done. The camera sometimes catched stuff the commentators were not paying attention to. I think it's because the camera operator just had to concentrate on "filming" while the other guys talked.
Maybe on blitz it would not work at all 😂 I have to edit because of slow mode 😅
There are no perfect solutions...
Btw it all of this was not to criticize. You do a great job I could never manage and that's more than enough for me to thank you :)

leaden belfry Apr 23, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Yeah, there's advantages to it

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But there's not really any ideal solution or version, so to speak

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That being said - regarding my own camera work; I may not agree, so won't promise to do exactly as you (plural) tell me too, but by all means - give me pointers, tell me what you want

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I'm looking into getting a mouse with shortcut buttons, but I'm not going to be able to afford that before the end of this season, so I'm a bit limited with regards to that

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But even if there's stuff I can't change now, assuming I'm still here and doing this come Twister, I can take it with me to that

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Oh, don't worry, I only appreciate it =) I'd much rather people take the time and effort to talk -to- me and help me get better rather than just talking -about- me 😅😂

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And as my English is totally failing and it's nearly 2am here, I am actually going to see if I can get that sleep thing Rashford was referring to 🙃

pale finch Apr 23, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Sleep is overrated

spice briar Apr 24, 2020, 1:40 AM

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@chilly terrace Is it right that normandy and hellas will remain in the map pool for the ongoing tournament ? There are some rumors that both wont get removed since they are back at the menu.

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 1:47 AM

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hello

ember hare Apr 24, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Where is the live stream

leaden belfry Apr 24, 2020, 4:21 AM

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@spice briar for the ascent tournaments, they're still there. They've only been removed for the Professionals
(I asked, because after Normandy got removed, I got Normandy during a match up last weekend, on stream)

vital obsidian Apr 24, 2020, 4:55 AM

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For commentating, one thing we lost with Rolling is the coverage of the scoreboard situation, he is phenomenal in using the time between analyzing what is happening to other teams and their impact on final positions. I rather see more of that than endless replays that yt is full of. Miss u Brian ❤️

leaden belfry Apr 24, 2020, 5:12 AM

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That's something I can take with me to next season, thank you. There's only one ticketed ascent left, and while I do plan on waiting until the scoreboard has updated this weekend before ending the stream (if the update time is indeed within about half an hour after the matches have finished, and assuming I don't get knocked out before the final stage, as streamer), I know I lack the ability to focus to properly math things myself atm.
I'll see if I'm able to put something in excel 🤔

vital obsidian Apr 24, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Thank you I look forward to that!

leaden belfry Apr 24, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Quick question. Does anyone have screenshots for me of the cups standing of preferably EU before and after the ticketed ascent tournament last week?
If it's Asia or NA, that's fine too - as long as it's a set from from after the non ticketed ascent and before the ticketed ascent last week, and another set of after the ticketed ascent but before yesterday.

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 6:53 AM

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@vital obsidian maybe you do?

leaden belfry Apr 24, 2020, 6:53 AM

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I can work around it if not, it's just easier with 😁

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 7:19 AM

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@chilly terrace Is it right that normandy and hellas will remain in the map pool for the ongoing tournament ? There are some rumors that both wont get removed since they are back at the menu.
@spice briar
Normandy and Hellas were removed only from Professionals tournament. I have no idea where you can hear that they were removed from all tournaments.

spice briar Apr 24, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Alright, thank you

blissful cave Apr 24, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Can We expect wild card tournament like last year?

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 9:21 AM

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It was for twister not pro tournament

blissful cave Apr 24, 2020, 9:24 AM

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I know. But this time we have no information about this. To get some points You have last chance tournament but i don't ask for it. I ask about wild card tournament

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Dont think there will be one , since there is no offline as well

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 9:29 AM

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I know. But this time we have no information about this. To get some points You have last chance tournament but i don't ask for it. I ask about wild card tournament
@blissful cave
There is no reason to hold Wild Card tournament in this season.

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 9:29 AM

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we know informations about twister max 2 weeks earlier, not 4-5 months before (sadly)

lol read

blissful cave Apr 24, 2020, 9:32 AM

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So for twister is another qualifying tournament?

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Wildcard is held for a spot at the offlines

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 9:33 AM

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we know informations about twister max 2 weeks earlier, not 4-5 months before (sadly)
@azure pecan
If we share infotmation about Twister or any other season 4-5 months before, no one will be able to recall this information at the start of the season.

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So for twister is another qualifying tournament?
@blissful cave
This season is not related to Twister somehow. Moreover, we haven't announce any information about Twister or Twister season yet

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 9:34 AM

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4-5 months earlier is too much for sure. But 1 month earlier wouldnt be too luxuous tbh
Put a reminder 1week before the start in that case

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 9:37 AM

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4-5 months earlier is too much for sure. But 1 month earlier wouldnt be too luxuous tbh
Put a reminder 1week before the start in that case
@azure pecan
What's the reason of it? As I get you are talking about exact rules etc. I agree that 1 week is probably too late, but 1 month... I'm not sure that this makes sense

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 9:40 AM

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ah im not talking about exact rules (even if i think it would be cool to have them in that time too)
I mean having an announcement about next season (major tournament) 1month before would be great because all competitive clans are preparing this for 3months at least, but stay in blur until 1week before it starts which is a way too late yes
First for the hype, major tournaments is something really waited and wanted
Then to know the map pool
Third to know how will it take place and the rewards

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Imagine if we got the Tournament Chart a month before it happened, you would be able to prepare for you oponents and watch their tape to counter their strats. Would be cool

vital obsidian Apr 24, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Who knows with corona will there be a offline this year...

crisp shore Apr 24, 2020, 10:04 AM

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To be honest the earlier the announcement the merrier, since Twister Season is a huge event that the top clans take it seriously and for example a leader needs to know whether the season coincides with their field trip dates, so they can arrange another one to lead during their absence. It also helps players to report their dates of absence if known in advance (due to exams, competitions or school/work events) so the leader has a good idea how many players they need during Twister Season.

It is also Wargaming's job to remind players before Twister Season. At least for me I remember important information at least 4 months prior it starts, so making an assumption that nobody could recall is a fallacy.

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 10:20 AM

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I wanna open a topic again, about pro camos that 90% of players in top4 already has and have been recycled for years and years

So wg didnt want to make new ones or even at least just change color, but now they release new good looking camos in the same time ?

This orange camo below looks good doesnt it ? Why not have made the same in blue and give these new ones as pro camo ??

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Is there such a point in keeping same pro camos ? Wg just designed 5-6 new camos for 6.10 but why dont design new ones in 3 years

edit: @terse nebula https://wotblitz.eu/en/clans-leaderboard/#/leagues/0
Just change the "wotblitz.eu" in the website adresse by "wotblitz.yourregion" to get your leaderboard

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terse nebula Apr 24, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Where can i see the standings in ascent tour?

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Thanks @azure pecan

analog osprey Apr 24, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Op camo

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Camos take more time to test than design. Would be a pain from what I understand

silver vapor Apr 24, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Camos take more time to test than design. Would be a pain from what I understand
@thorn shale nobody's asking for new fancy camo - they're all asking for the existing professional camo recoloured into different shades , like purple or red or green

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Wouldnt that require the same testing too? Im no expert but Im guessing it isnt only about the camo pattern but about the colors too. otherwise we wouldve seen more colors from the start

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Testing the camos ?

pale finch Apr 24, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Changing the color of the camos every season would be really cool. I’ve gotten the pro camo 3(?) times already I believe so getting them in for for example purple and red instead of orange and blue would be cool

versed field Apr 24, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Pink profesional camo😍 and i agree with zird

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Btw will WG ever prevent people from switching clans to use tickets?

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Adding new camos for gold every update but keeping same camos for top 4. Nice. We can see some big brain here.

median mason Apr 24, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Btw will WG ever prevent people from switching clans to use tickets?
@thorn shale yop, they said they will update the rules. But not this season

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 11:07 AM

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To be honest the earlier the announcement the merrier, since Twister Season is a huge event that the top clans take it seriously and for example a leader needs to know whether the season coincides with their field trip dates, so they can arrange another one to lead during their absence. It also helps players to report their dates of absence if known in advance (due to exams, competitions or school/work events) so the leader has a good idea how many players they need during Twister Season.

It is also Wargaming's job to remind players before Twister Season. At least for me I remember important information at least 4 months prior it starts, so making an assumption that nobody could recall is a fallacy.
@crisp shore
The only one real reason that I saw is map pool, because nothing else interferes teams to prepare. Two weeks, for example, are enough for other reasons that you mentioned. And you are absolutely right in saying that's our job to inform players. So that's why we don't announce any events when it will be useful just for a couple of players.

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Btw will WG ever prevent people from switching clans to use tickets?
@thorn shale They already said. They will change the rules so the fbi sister clan thing wont happen again without being punished.

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Kl, thnx for answers

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 11:14 AM

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I wanna open a topic again, about pro camos that 90% of players in top4 already has and have been recycled for years and years

So wg didnt want to make new ones or even at least just change color, but now they release new good looking camos in the same time ?

This orange camo below looks good doesnt it ? Why not have made the same in blue and give these new ones as pro camo ??
@azure pecan
There are 2 the most rare camouflages in the game for Professionals players. No one else can get them. I mean it's already not so bad as you said.
May be there will be more someday, but they may not be unique.

crisp shore Apr 24, 2020, 11:15 AM

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@crisp shore
The only one real reason that I saw is map pool, because nothing else interferes teams to prepare. Two weeks, for example, are enough for other reasons that you mentioned. And you are absolutely right in saying that's our job to inform players. So that's why we don't announce any events when it will be useful just for a couple of players.
@chilly terrace Two weeks for me is woefully inadequate, because most teams spend more than 2 weeks in preparing a team for the Twister Season. For aspiring teams that are relatively new, that could mean months for them. Generally, you want to practice with a team that has 7 set players already constantly, as there are no substitutes during Twister Cup. 2 weeks is also inadequate for clans that have issues with recruitment, not because they are lazy in finding players but simply they are not "famous" enough. Early announcement will prevent situations like roster change happening in Twister Cup.

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 11:15 AM

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@thorn shale They already said. They will change the rules so the fbi sister clan thing wont happen again without being punished.
@thorn shale
I didn't say this. I said that such situations will be regulated by rules, nothing else.

pale finch Apr 24, 2020, 11:16 AM

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@chilly terrace Two weeks for me is woefully inadequate, because most teams spend more than 2 weeks in preparing a team for the Twister Season. For aspiring teams that are relatively new, that could mean months for them. Generally, you want to practice with a team that has 7 set players already constantly, as there are no substitutes during Twister Cup. 2 weeks is also inadequate for clans that have issues with recruitment, not because they are lazy in finding players but simply they are not "famous" enough. Early announcement will prevent situations like roster change happening in Twister Cup.
@crisp shore Usually big teams prepare for months ahead to be on top of the game and I agree, 2 weeks before isn’t enough. 1 month should be considered a bare minimum

versed field Apr 24, 2020, 11:16 AM

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I would like to see system like that if you already have blue and orange pro camos then you get new colour, but if you dont already own any, you get them first

silver vapor Apr 24, 2020, 11:17 AM

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A system like progressive avatars? I'm in

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Cool idea

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Good idea tbh, but not different colors, would prefer new designs, as the orange camo i posted above, it looks really good and if they added the same in blue it could have been new pro camos i mean i dont see anything wrong with that

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 11:21 AM

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@chilly terrace Two weeks for me is woefully inadequate, because most teams spend more than 2 weeks in preparing a team for the Twister Season. For aspiring teams that are relatively new, that could mean months for them. Generally, you want to practice with a team that has 7 set players already constantly, as there are no substitutes during Twister Cup. 2 weeks is also inadequate for clans that have issues with recruitment, not because they are lazy in finding players but simply they are not "famous" enough. Early announcement will prevent situations like roster change happening in Twister Cup.
@crisp shore
I still don't see which kind of information you need so early. Dates? It is always given in the first announcement, which is usually posted one month before. They are not in details, right, but it should be enough to start preparing.

crisp shore Apr 24, 2020, 11:24 AM

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I remember dates were not given a month before Twister Cup started last year. Please fact check my information. That meant the second week of the Ascent Tournaments clashed completely with my field trip last year. By dates, I mean exact dates. That would make a huge difference than giving a brief date range of the entire event, for example whether a player would need to be absent as they need to participate in a competition outwith the game.

I do mean exact dates (the most important piece of information) while I agree that the details could be announced later.

analog osprey Apr 24, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Changing the color of the camos every season would be really cool. I’ve gotten the pro camo 3(?) times already I believe so getting them in for for example purple and red instead of orange and blue would be cool
@pale finch +1

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 11:32 AM

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I remember dates were not given a month before Twister Cup started last year. Please fact check my information. That meant the second week of the Ascent Tournaments clashed completely with my field trip last year. By dates, I mean exact dates. That would make a huge difference than giving a date range, for example whether a player would need to be absent as they need to participate in a competition outwith the game.

I do mean exact dates (the most important piece of information) while I agree that the details could be announced later.
@crisp shore
Ok, I got your point. I can't promise you that all announcements will be earlier, because dates depend on much different factors that can be unclear for a long time, but at least I'll take it into account.

crisp shore Apr 24, 2020, 11:32 AM

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Thank you very much for the consideration

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 11:33 AM

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@thorn shale
I didn't say this. I said that such situations will be regulated by rules, nothing else.
@chilly terrace i did understand wrong then. Im sorry

leaden belfry Apr 24, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Ok, I got your point. I can't promise you that all announcements will be earlier, because dates depend on much different factors that can be unclear for a long time, but at least I'll take it into account.
@chilly terrace that would be great. It's something Brian and I both hammered you and Daria for last year, especially with that schedule being as it was. Even if you don't want to share what happens on those exact dates, or give any other information, just knowing the dates so people can make sure they have those evenings free would already make a world of difference

rugged wasp Apr 24, 2020, 12:37 PM

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maybe it's very weird feedback because the main point of tournament is to see who is the best but, i think it's pretty hard for someone that new getting into tournament, what i mean here is they can't learn 'what and how to do' in tournament battle because mostly they (new player) losing by pro player and it's very hard punishment to fighting the pro meanwhile you are new/casually into tournament.

so why not just go lower tier tournament
and i could say same that every tier had different tactic, they will likely to learn for that lower tier tactics rather than the tier i mean

but again, i can't blame the tournament. it's designed to be competitive and see who is the best... it's just thoughts that recently came into my mind

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 12:52 PM

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They should just stick to Quick Tournaments. Besides, before you make your own tournament teams you should join a clan with a team and learn from them, thats how you start and then you move up into better clans/ eventually make your own

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 12:54 PM

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If you want to get better you need to lose, and a lot, against who's better than you. Learn by steps and look for teams who already have some chemistry and are in need of a player, there's plenty at decent level. Play QTs and when you feel confident try aiming for lower echelon or something like that.

gleaming pollen Apr 24, 2020, 1:21 PM

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I think that pro camos aren’t the most important thing in the world. They only affect a handfull of players. Of course it would be nice to see different colours but not that important.

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Although I would really like to see wg put out one day animated camos they would be sick!

versed field Apr 24, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Like Clan logo sticker in tank

wintry hound Apr 24, 2020, 1:37 PM

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In the future, will there be more tournaments like professional tournament (not counting twister)?

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 1:43 PM

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how about money banger t6 this summer, cashprize in t6 is interesting guys

tropic lotus Apr 24, 2020, 1:43 PM

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no

wintry hound Apr 24, 2020, 1:54 PM

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no

crisp shore Apr 24, 2020, 2:05 PM

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To be honest the best way to learn how to play tournaments is to watch the streams, especially RollingSwarm's. There is a lot to learn from tactics, positioning, team mechanisms and so on 😉. Of course, tweak the team's play styles through learning mistakes by playing them in the game. Losing is actually a good opportunity to learn.

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 2:06 PM

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not really, its hard for a new player to understand t10 competitive plays
Should just start in tournaments t8 then middle competition t10 ect

tropic lotus Apr 24, 2020, 2:14 PM

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roling quit..

pale finch Apr 24, 2020, 2:29 PM

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LOCA helping raid pull an FBI/K4 interesting am I right guys

tropic lotus Apr 24, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I don't understand

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Ppl in LOCA and RAID were complaining about FBI move with K4 and now they do the same? Nice

wintry hound Apr 24, 2020, 2:33 PM

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I mean if u guys were in they're boots wouldn't u do the same? Ik we would, it's not illegal, so imo it's fine. Plus they were 2nd and they lost yesterday's tournament and suddenly they're not top 8, that's bs

versed field Apr 24, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Im wordless if this gonna happen

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thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I mean if u guys were in they're boots wouldn't u do the same? Ik we would, it's not illegal, so imo it's fine. Plus they were 2nd and they lost yesterday's tournament and suddenly they're not top 8, that's bs
@wintry hound
But they trash talked fbi and k4 for doing it, but now they do. No sense. Ik thats bs, but man was their fault for losing, same with fbi... Feels bad cos raid is big and good team, but shit happens.

silver vapor Apr 24, 2020, 2:36 PM

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pffft - as long as it wins games no one cares whether they be spamming missiles, T-22 or doing stuff like this. this is how corrupt the competition is

wintry hound Apr 24, 2020, 2:39 PM

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The system of tournaments is shit I agree. You shouldn't be able to do this, but you shouldn't lose top 8 place (from 2nd) because u lost one game.

When was this team 2nd and when did they lose their place, in what tournament?
@tropic lotus
They had second place 24 hours ago, now they don't because they lost to -WW- or smth

tropic lotus Apr 24, 2020, 2:39 PM

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When was this team 2nd and when did they lose their place, in what tournament? @

fervent bloom Apr 24, 2020, 2:40 PM

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EU ascent tournaments

violet hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Didn’t u guys know, it’s their sister clan

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 2:42 PM

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never have i ever heard about it being their sister clan 🤷🏻‍♂️ @thorn shale it’s clearly not funny 😂

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never have i ever heard about it being their sister clan 🤷🏻‍♂️
@thorn shale hes clearly jokin :)

haughty jungle Apr 24, 2020, 2:44 PM

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🤔

cyan wing Apr 24, 2020, 2:45 PM

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how can i quit tournament?

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Imagine it happens again
(From guys who complained when it happened the first time)

glass thunder Apr 24, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Its still allowed tho same like rerolls spam xd

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 2:47 PM

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they complained about it because they thought they didn't need it 🤷‍♂️ @azure pecan look at them going low now, u ain't gonna see them in this chat anymore 🤣. @haughty jungle got lucky 🤣 🤣 🤣

tidal snow Apr 24, 2020, 2:48 PM

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actually it’s not, game rules state that, that kind of stuff is not permitted..

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300673995714330636/703254178146943096/unknown.png

”rigged battles” and ”unsporting assistance” that’s so against those rules...

haughty jungle Apr 24, 2020, 2:49 PM

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What have we done

wintry hound Apr 24, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Oh please, any clan at this stage would do the same. Everybody was flamming FBI tbf

cyan wing Apr 24, 2020, 2:50 PM

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please can someone tell me how to quit a tournament . ty

odd basalt Apr 24, 2020, 2:50 PM

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oof

manic pewter Apr 24, 2020, 2:50 PM

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We wouldnt

violet hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I would

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I dont think so engy

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 2:51 PM

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👀

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 2:52 PM

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so many teams wouldnt do it engy, theres a thing called principals plus doesnt matter they were 2nd before, they lost bcs they got outplayed by -WW-, thats it.

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@wintry hound isn't that the point mate? They were flaming F-B-I hard too, now end up doing the thing they so very much despised 🤷‍♂️ quite cheeky if you ask me. @tidal snow neither of the two rules you showed prohibit you from having a reroll though.

glass thunder Apr 24, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Raid will not do that with loca players only if loca give 3 players to raid and other clan give them 3 and 3 rd cln give them 1 so happy ending for all xd

tidal snow Apr 24, 2020, 2:56 PM

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i wouldn’t like at all to find RA1D going against game rules and face us and to beat us slightly 2-1 and then we wouldn’t get top 16 finish because they went agaisnt the game rules......

@thorn shale what does having a reroll have to do this, having a 2nd account isn’t against the rules

wintry hound Apr 24, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I pretty sure if u put in the effort of training nearly everyday for the past 2-3 months, you would think twice.

It's not illegal, WG said they don't mind it.

It could've happened to everyone, that's my point. Imo the gaps between points are way to small. They were top of the scoreboard for the whole tournament, they lost yes, but should u rly fall out of top 8 ? Honestly Idk, for me it seems quite strange.

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Yes im pretty sure w1n is also happy

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thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@tidal snow you are implying that RA1D needs to go against the game rules, which ones exactly and how? Also i reckon if they get another chance they'd show u they just misplayed a little bit 🤷‍♂️

tiny berry Apr 24, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Zis is SCANDALOUS. Not efficient, not German. Why is sis happening?

silver vapor Apr 24, 2020, 3:02 PM

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the Thursdays should be the more important tournament, not saturdays. (towards cups)

glass thunder Apr 24, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Tbh its wg fault for putting this super bad system a team that win 2 times ticket tournament cant get top 8 because of not getting ticket once and others team spam rerolls to get high wr and avoid big clan its so stupid

crisp shore Apr 24, 2020, 3:03 PM

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The cups system of this game is deeply flawed and I can make a case for this using RA1D's performance in the last 3 Saturdays and the absurdity of the number of cups given in the finals of the qualifiers and the first round of the ticketed tournaments. This is Wargaming's fault. In my opinion, no clan deserves to be out of top 8 after finishing in the top 4 in all the ticketed tournaments, and only because of one match.

But then exploiting loopholes is another problem and cannot be talked simultaneously with the flaws present in the cups system. I would rather prove how absurd it is to miss out top 8 with history and statistics. It is unfair to clans who don't have the ability to conjure up a team to participate in the ticketed tournaments, simply because they don't have the connections.

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 3:04 PM

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What a fun pastime blitz community is c:

WiE kOnNtE dAs PaSsIeReN??????

analog osprey Apr 24, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@vital obsidian FBI can talk when they want. FBI lost cuz they weren’t 7 and RA1D lost with 7 players. So it’s little bit different.

tropic lotus Apr 24, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Fixing and rigging matches for another team has sadly been happening for a long time

A lot of under the table deals and politics involved

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 3:05 PM

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In any case the problem isnt to accept the error or not, once again it is just unfair for tiny-top8 clans thats it

glass thunder Apr 24, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Tbh is so stupid to talk about fbi and raid when you use 88wr account with few battles or 1 account with 100%wr to get ez groups and we see apa fbi and eg in same group in normal tournament this is so disgusting try to be strong instead of pushing your wr with rerolls

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 3:10 PM

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@crisp shore
If someone lose ticket, it means that they lose against low or average team. That's it. And it's absolutely fair that playing in ticketed tournaments where each opponent is much stronger then in non-ticketed tournament gets more cups.

tidal snow Apr 24, 2020, 3:10 PM

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@thorn shale again those rules which i screenshotted and posted here...

this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/300673995714330636/703254178146943096/unknown.png

how this isn’t ”rigging battles”

chilly terrace Apr 24, 2020, 3:11 PM

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@tidal snow This rule doesn't have any connection with current case.

violet hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Massive you use other clans tickets but u don’t want to create a reroll to improve seeding? Lol a bit weird

bright tundra Apr 24, 2020, 3:11 PM

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A week ago Ra1d were calling this exact behavior “very unsportsmanlike”. Now they do it. Others now suggest anyone else would do it too. Then it’s compared to the 100% account thing and using rerolls. And in any case some teams are so good it doesn’t matter what results they get they simply deserve their place. In the end it all looks and tastes of shit.

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 3:11 PM

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I respect RA1D as a clan and also as individuals, have never seen them act bad ingame.
Also big respect for W1N, they keep getting hard opponents just because their wr is lower than most clans in top 15+ and they still haven't got to the point where they start rerolling just to get easier way up. Also W1N guys behave like gentlemen, no spamming and shouting even in randoms.
If u ask me, RA1D and W1N are the number ones of being respectful and true Pros in every possible way

tiny berry Apr 24, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Guys, seriously. Okay, WG messed up the tournament system but WG also messed up the rules so everything is going perfectly normal. This is a simple administrative matter, you know us Germans are good at administration. Very good. Just think of Angela. She knows the rules. Think of her. Now. More. Now you thought to much of her. You might never fall in love with a woman again. Now, for "us" critizising FBI/K4. It wasn't "us", it was Tobi. Tobi is well known for being a miserable character and having tourettes syndrom. We only keep him in our clan because of his symbiotic relationship with xxjpxx. He is a troubled person but we help him every day getting better. Please, don't make him cry. Thank you.

turbid sinew Apr 24, 2020, 3:13 PM

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😂😂😂

odd basalt Apr 24, 2020, 3:13 PM

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😂

summer pivot Apr 24, 2020, 3:14 PM

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😂 🤣

thick nexus Apr 24, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Schnitzel is our leader

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 3:14 PM

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😂

crisp shore Apr 24, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I will make graphs and tables to explain my point later, but you can see the overall difficulty for "stronger" clans in the first round of ticketed tournaments is "lower" than the finals of the team. Statistically it does not make sense for a team to be booted off the top 8 just because of 1 matchup over more than 15 matchups I think.

-WW- is not a "low or average" team. They deserve to win their matches by their discipline and strategies if you look back at the streams by Fugit. The win rate suggests otherwise but not the overall team performance. I'm not trying to be overly woke but it is insulting to -WW-.

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 3:15 PM

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😂

vital obsidian Apr 24, 2020, 3:17 PM

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WW did great job 👍 great guys

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Yes same for w1n and both deserve at least a fairplay from others

crisp shore Apr 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Also upsets do happen in real life. Sometimes the "low or average" teams have a fantastic day and sometimes the "high or excellent" teams have a terrible day. There are numerous examples in sports where upsets happen. One upset out of countless hard-fought victories doesn't change most opinions about how "strong" a team is, and so one upset should not be weighted too heavily against other fantastic matches.

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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What if WinterWar were actually competing for top8? But yeah they're trash, thir wr suck and they've never been to top8 so they dont matter oof

@thorn shale the sarcasm of course, you seem to miss it

versed field Apr 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Its just sad if 2 teams from top 8 have not played themselfs in, you know guys what i mean. System needs to change. But lets hope that loca wont help raid with that🥱,

are u sure rashford. Lets see. U2

analog osprey Apr 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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They will xdd. yes gl for tomorrow

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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@tidal snow again, those rules don't affect any of their actions so yeah, they are not going against any rules, understand that. @tranquil seal the respect, you seem to miss it.. @tidal snow try again next time maybe? Should be enough time to improve i guess..

tidal snow Apr 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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thing is we're competing for top 16 finish and if RA1D now do this and come play, and go against us in the first round and we slightly lose and then we don't make top 16 finish, i would be absolutely trashed...

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 3:29 PM

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I dont even understand what's loca's motivation in this move except an external deal ?? Not having raid in profi is a potential top4 more accessible, so why would a team competiting for top4 help raid i dont get it also

bright tundra Apr 24, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Looking at the results for this qualifying season, -WW- regularly reach Thursday finals despite having a very low winrate (which puts them in terrible draws on the weekend tournaments). They’ve an excellent record against all the other teams in places 9-16. Their win against Ra1d isn’t a crime against the oligarchy.

pale finch Apr 24, 2020, 3:30 PM

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They also took both RA1D and EG- to tiebreakers previously @bright tundra

manic pewter Apr 24, 2020, 3:36 PM

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WW have one of best igl in eu server

vital obsidian Apr 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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@manic pewter yes eloge to Japi

odd basalt Apr 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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japi OP

versed field Apr 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Japi is so op, there is no anymore loca players in raid thx loca dudes💪

spice geode Apr 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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🙈

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Who wouldnt do the same if u as a team had potential to win prof, I support ra1d if FBI did it why not ra1d?

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@thorn shale if Tobi were to talk less smack about it, i wouldn't mind 🙂

violet hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 3:40 PM

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I support raid too, no sarcasm

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 3:41 PM

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@thorn shale having fbi made this move doesnt mean it becomes a fair move ? Also maybe because these guys complained when fbi did it

Edit: i dont think tobi s opinion wasnt contested by other RAIDs

Re edit: @spice geode u dont Care of what precisely, w1n having less chance to reach top8 because of your move?

manic pewter Apr 24, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I dont care what people say. I care about what they do.

turbid sinew Apr 24, 2020, 3:42 PM

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1 guy complained

vital obsidian Apr 24, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Why not vote on who ”deservs” to play in top 8 and top 16? would be more fair

spice geode Apr 24, 2020, 3:43 PM

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1 guy does not represent the whole clan @azure pecan, we don’t really care actually.

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 3:44 PM

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@vital obsidian Vote for WW.

spice geode Apr 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Tough luck. :/

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 3:54 PM

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ill vote -BC in then

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Never heard of that.

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Pls english @thorn shale

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 4:00 PM

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A fanabla @tranquil seal

vital obsidian Apr 24, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Big Thank you to the clans who say no to offers to give their ticket players to a clan who lost their ticket game👍👍 It is great there is a few of you out there

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Depends on the money they would give me. 😁

median mason Apr 24, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Lol

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 4:10 PM

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@thorn shale money is against the rules

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Nahw. Money is good stuff to buy good stuff.

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were you paid last week to play with some random clan in QTs? @thorn shale 😂 Think i met you not long ago

pale finch Apr 24, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Interesting

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sonic flame Apr 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Wow 😂

bright tundra Apr 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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It’s funny.

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gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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round 2 , bring the popcorn

glass thunder Apr 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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@thorn shale rekty finally save something in his life after destroying many clans

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 4:53 PM

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try do not laugh compilation

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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rekty will save ra1d 🙏

median mason Apr 24, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Haha! That's funny :D
In this case I am totally with raid

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Yes now I cannot deny my support
Their team has actually improved

visual tendon Apr 24, 2020, 4:59 PM

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rekty...😶

spice briar Apr 24, 2020, 4:59 PM

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🙃

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 5:00 PM

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nice meme @slender flare

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I tried so hard, and got so far @slender flare 🤣

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 5:08 PM

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thought ra1d wanted good players hmm

silver vapor Apr 24, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Drama time

stark crow Apr 24, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Big brain time

arctic arch Apr 24, 2020, 5:16 PM

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haha yes.

tropic lotus Apr 24, 2020, 5:20 PM

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ahh tmrw is last day of tourneys as we try to hold onto 7th place 😬

patent quartz Apr 24, 2020, 5:50 PM

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well at least now we're not to blame anymore for what we did 1 week ago 🤔

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@patent quartz reckon it doesn't work like that though hmm

flat goblet Apr 24, 2020, 6:01 PM

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😆

Obviously you wouldn’t mind

patent quartz Apr 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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sure, what's done is done, and we cannot blame them either, we did it aswell, tbh i dont mind at all.

stark crow Apr 24, 2020, 6:04 PM

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the thing is that everyone complains ( it is understable), that it is not fairplay, unsportsmanlike , but WG allows it until proven otherwise for this season, so they are in the rules despite you. Instead of complaining about that, deal with it , cause it will change nothing till the next seasons

low badger Apr 24, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@patent quartz yeah we can complain about it still, your broken logic of "someone else did it so its okay" doesn't work for anyone besides wg at this point. Yeah we can't blame you for doing it, we know why you did it. It's that it's still bad nonetheless.

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 6:21 PM

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it's not a bug, it's a feature

patent quartz Apr 24, 2020, 6:25 PM

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does it mean i don't have the right to be ironic about it without getting "harrassed" for it here ? @low badger , i hope not.
@stark crow WG doesn't allow it but cannot act against it since they said it's a weak rule that will be fixed by the next tournament even.

low badger Apr 24, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@patent quartz Sorry if this is coming off as harassment, I hope that isn't the case, but that being said- is it really the time to be funny? Not to mention, your comments hardly implied any sense of comedy, sarcasm or irony, barring the emoji. You do have the right, no one is denying that, but you weren't exactly exercising it either with your one liner.

stark crow Apr 24, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@patent quartz okey nvm then

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Ok

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Hehe

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 7:02 PM

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@low badger it clearly didn’t mean to make it ironic

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apparently RA1D said to JO46 to play for them this Saturday :)) and jo46 accepted

pale finch Apr 24, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Fun that this professional tournament is about as much of a joke as the last one, EZ- swapping all their accounts and getting banned and now 2 teams that should 100% not be in top 8 because they drop tickets still has a chance to get there because they recruit other teams with tickets ( RA1D, FBI ) it’s nothing but a huge joke

tiny berry Apr 24, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Mi? Mimi? Mimimimi?

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@thorn shale ?? JO46 the clan?

cold furnace Apr 24, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Miimiimii

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thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 7:31 PM

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@tiny berry tobi is a raid player, he is against it as you’ve mentioned, him saying that and not been shut, means raid agrees, just admit that you cannot act mature and withstand your own words, real man says, he does it, seems like no man in RA1D

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 7:33 PM

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People in one team are allowed to have different opinions , arent they ?

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 7:36 PM

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it’s just that his responses are a bit childish, which makes it all weird :/ i’m out here trying to understand stuff and i see “mimimi” 😂😂

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@gentle sierra different opinions, but not different statements, it’s like if Angela Merkel goes on and says that Germany isn’t doing something that’s looks weird to be done, but then frank Walter wants to do it, he can’t just say:”people in one country are allowed to have different opinions, aren’t they?”

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Ok

spice geode Apr 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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😂

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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😂

pale finch Apr 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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cringe

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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@tiny berry Why u delete ur message?

solar coral Apr 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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very funny haha comedian lmao deleting messages working fine

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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@wintry hound why would they deserve a place if they can’t play consistently? Yet they don’t care, they care about rewards and not the way of getting them. By saying they deserve the spot in top 8, you are saying they deserve it same way as you do, but wait a second, you’ve played consistently good, you’ve not managed to drop a ticket, so read it and rethink it this way, that there is other teams who have been CONSISTENTLY playing good enough to get the ticket

tiny berry Apr 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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@thorn shale It wasn't me. It seems freedom of speech doesn't get the same appreciation within this channel as within our clan. 😉

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Yeah bcs when u write that kind of message u put RA1D name lower @tiny berry

dapper vigil Apr 24, 2020, 7:55 PM

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There isn’t a lower echelon tourney anymore right?

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@tiny berry why have you not punished or well at least have not mentioned publicly that you do not share same opinion? Perhaps, you did share same opinion when it didn’t touch you, now being in the spot of FBI you realize that you’ve made a huge mistake that leads on missing top 8, but you are seeking for it, so you doing the same move, yet sharing, yet knowing it’s bad, simply you are very selfish, simply you do not support a fair play, I should remind you that fair play is not set by rules, but by our human sensible relationship to each other, you might avoid breaking the rules, but your actions so is FBI, does not have a place in our little hopefully growing esport community, yet I should mention, my believe is that with such attitude it will never grow, it might even die, take it into consideration for the next tournaments, as well as taking actions meanwhile the tournament is on, seen @chilly terrace agrees, perhaps he is limited by the company

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@tiny berry I believe that one opinion is shared by a clan, yet nothing else been said, MEANS that this same clan shares the same opinion, as you’ve mentioned, you’ve got freedom of speech, yet you stay quite, I’ve mentioned the fact of not admitting, I personally believe that the main team of raid consists of not just word “man” in their gender

fast shadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:05 PM

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🦦

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 8:05 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/whinnie-pooh-dancing-excited-winnie-gif-7703016

Tenor

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 8:05 PM

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😂

slender flare Apr 24, 2020, 8:06 PM

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😂

tiny berry Apr 24, 2020, 8:15 PM

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@thorn shale @thorn shale Why are you insisting on your dictatorial approach to clan communication? While we do have extraordinarily effective controlling mechanisms in order to track statements by our clan members in DC, Forums or real life (luckily we have some experts from Eastern Germany in our clan) we still unfortunately can't track every single one of them. Rest assured we are working on it. In fact one could even assume my clanmembers are not aware of the very little fun I am having in here. Please forgive me for exploiting that little loophole, I'm sure there will be a big "mea-culpa" ushered by my fellow clanmates within reasonable time.
Of course it seems comprehensible that it is one of the most consistent and established clans in wotblitz that is destroying our little growing clanwars scene by trying to mend stupidity in WGs tournament setup by "abusing" another stupidity in WGs tournament rules. And not players changing clan more often then they shave their undergarments. Or little Mielke-fans pointing out every little squalidness in what a clan does in order to instigate disaccord within the community in order to satisfy their lust for "Schadenfreude". I perfectly see your point.

gentle sierra Apr 24, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Man with the essays , just say "ok"

solar coral Apr 24, 2020, 8:18 PM

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it doesnt matter if you write an essay or not, its so stupid that we dont want to read it lmao, just act mature instead of speaking complete bs that have no connection to the conversation's subject at all

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 8:18 PM

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@tiny berry lol

fast shadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Hallo

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Mi? Mimi? Mimimimi?

strong marsh Apr 24, 2020, 8:34 PM

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simply put, that's a shame

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 8:36 PM

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500+ aces on KeNi Otsu is funnier 🤣

dreamy adder Apr 24, 2020, 9:09 PM

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ill vote -BC in then
@thorn shale +1 😂

median mason Apr 24, 2020, 9:42 PM

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As Germans say: ordnung muss sein. I like tthe approach @tiny berry 🤣

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 9:43 PM

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@strong marsh , could of, but this way it’s clear to everyone whom supports and doesn’t support raid

glass thunder Apr 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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tbh its wg fault this problem was reported last twister by me and i said someone could abuse it , but they didn't listen same like rerolls spam system and we may see same problem next twister

brittle sentinel Apr 24, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Is anyone Dutch over here

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 9:54 PM

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@strong marsh get ur veteran role u sealclubber

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Yes we agree on the fact that wg is to blame a lot like always but this is not 100% wg s fault

As already debated for 8hours we have the chance to have a close competitive community there and you clearly knew all unfair/bad points of what you did but u still did it. We cant everytime refeer to rules otherwise its just completely useless to have a brain and be human, robots can follow/apply/use rules without problem. The difference with us is that we should be able to decide how we want to use them - you didnt chose the best way of it thats it, its wg fault also but not only, it could have been better without wg

Once again its nothing about personnal pbs with you and no one doubts of fbi & raid compete capacities in top8, it is just that teams like w1n are facing all Bad points of your unfair move

glass thunder Apr 24, 2020, 9:56 PM

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@thorn shale as some used to say about sheridan missiles its not fair but all can use it

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Why my message got deleted? Lol
Anyways, stop comparing other things to this, has nothing in common. @glass thunder

dreamy adder Apr 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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@strong marsh get ur veteran role u sealclubber
@thorn shale he cant, 50% needed

regal agate Apr 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Mea culpa @tiny berry

reef barn Apr 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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👍

glass thunder Apr 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@thorn shale its not the only problem this season yes FBI and RAID move is bad so ban them from top 8 same ban 3 teams who keep spaming rerolls 100 wr 1 battel 88 wr 30 battels its just a s**t shot this year even all what happen could be avoided by wg cause everything got reported before ,
+its same like teams who have t22 and play vs others who don't the old BPL system was better than all wg tournaments ,
after 3 years of players saying bo3 is bad and can make this upsets but we still have it and not even in online tournament its even in twister cup with 2 groups rushed format
everything need to be fixed and yeah both raid and FBI moves were bad but they are not even the worst thing in this current system

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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No one is saying fbi/raid should be banned lol @glass thunder and again, stop comparing things, t22/reroll/unfair are 3 different things.

azure pecan Apr 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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One of these weak point doesnt make the unfair move more acceptable or so lol

Thats another problem of wg

regal agate Apr 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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@tiny berry should be banned because he uses Walhack in tournament

tiny berry Apr 24, 2020, 10:20 PM

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@regal agate Last time I played a tournament I couldnt see any walls and consequently drove over open fields all the time. Wonder why they dont want to have me in CW teams anymore? 🤔

regal agate Apr 24, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@tiny berry ban him he is admitting that he is hacking!! In tournament! He was hacking in twister cup too! His father is called WE1SE and is a hacker too!!

tiny berry Apr 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Wrong, WE1SE is my mother and his camel is my cousin. He taught me how to cheat but once I became better than him he became sad and switched clan. I gave him all my love but he didn't appreciate it. Seems like he prefers camel appreciation.

regal agate Apr 24, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Now I get it and I sincere apologised for my false claims. Looking at Weise I realised it can be both a mother and a father for your lost soul. I realised that your tourtured self must no longer be in the middle of this fight between uncivilised man and 🐪. May our lord and savoir forgive you your sins and let us pray that you can prosper and live a good live

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 10:31 PM

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🐫 🙏

fast shadow Apr 24, 2020, 10:32 PM

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🙏🏻

tiny berry Apr 24, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Amen

median mason Apr 24, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Oh man

regal agate Apr 24, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Hallelujah 🐫 🙏🎅🏿🙏

thorn shale Apr 24, 2020, 10:42 PM

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fast shadow Apr 24, 2020, 10:48 PM

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😂

tranquil seal Apr 24, 2020, 11:59 PM

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😂

haughty jungle Apr 25, 2020, 12:10 AM

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😂 👍

low badger Apr 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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@chilly terrace Some of the members in my clan, -rgn- suffer ferocious lag during ascents, and it's affecting our play pretty heavily, it started about last week or the start of this week. With erratic ping spikes, ghost shells and usually packet loss (especially during shots and teamfights). Just wanted to bring this up.

chilly terrace Apr 25, 2020, 8:20 AM

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I will make graphs and tables to explain my point later, but you can see the overall difficulty for "stronger" clans in the first round of ticketed tournaments is "lower" than the finals of the team. Statistically it does not make sense for a team to be booted off the top 8 just because of 1 matchup over more than 15 matchups I think.

-WW- is not a "low or average" team. They deserve to win their matches by their discipline and strategies if you look back at the streams by Fugit. The win rate suggests otherwise but not the overall team performance. I'm not trying to be overly woke but it is insulting to -WW-.
@crisp shore
The great matches in one tournament mean... just great matches in one tournament. Don't forget that there are 8 in seasons. You think that system is unfair because if someone lose their chance to get ticket, they lost chance for top-8, but we don't think the same. If you want to be in top-8, you should show consistently good game. And in the end, the ability to play consistently well determines your skill.
The main problem, I suppose, that you evaluate skill of teams based on that you think. It's quite wrong.

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@chilly terrace Some of the members in my clan, -rgn- suffer ferocious lag during ascents, and it's affecting our play pretty heavily, it started about last week or the start of this week. With erratic ping spikes, ghost shells and usually packet loss (especially during shots and teamfights). Just wanted to bring this up.
@low badger
Unfortunately, we can't influence on providers, internet routes and such things. So it's risk of any online tournament. Sad but true.

tiny berry Apr 25, 2020, 8:51 AM

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@chilly terrace the difference between playing consistently well and not being able to do ONE mistake is known to you? Or are you saying that Ra1d has not been playing consistently well for the last... well, years? You can disagree with what Ra1d and FBI are doing, I can understand the argument. But defending the utterly flawed tournament structure by saying such a clichee like "play consistently" instead of listening to the community and improving your obviously unsatisfactory system is - unfortunately - very typical.

low badger Apr 25, 2020, 8:52 AM

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@chilly terrace unfortunate, good to know. Thank you

wooden pasture Apr 25, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Hello so what are we doing here

fast hareBOT Apr 25, 2020, 11:10 AM

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dynoSuccess Piinattu_Rellu#1864 was muted

pallid raven Apr 25, 2020, 12:00 PM

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If Germany were to beat Spain and Brazil in the qualifiers but then lose to England in the quarter finals of a world cup. Are they out, or can they have a second chance?

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There are clans in the middle echelon who have consistently gone to the ticket Tournament. Therefore they deserve to be in the top 8 more than RAID.

median mason Apr 25, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Lol

pale finch Apr 25, 2020, 12:09 PM

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No obviously if you lose you ask all other national teams for bench warmers and make a team out of them, isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?

pallid raven Apr 25, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Ah my bad, thanks for letting know about that loophole@pale finch

pale finch Apr 25, 2020, 12:24 PM

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No worries, and by acting the way we are we punish other teams who have received tickets every week despite way harder matchmaking because of lower win rates. Like W1N for example.

crisp shore Apr 25, 2020, 12:49 PM

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@crisp shore
The great matches in one tournament mean... just great matches in one tournament. Don't forget that there are 8 in seasons. You think that system is unfair because if someone lose their chance to get ticket, they lost chance for top-8, but we don't think the same. If you want to be in top-8, you should show consistently good game. And in the end, the ability to play consistently well determines your skill.
The main problem, I suppose, that you evaluate skill of teams based on that you think. It's quite wrong.
I agree with most of your points. However, what I am arguing here is the disproportionality of the cups system, which is arguably contradicting to what you might all define "consistency". I am working on providing my arguments, and I shall present my results as soon as possible. The point we might want to agree with is that how well a team should be doing in order to afford losing a ticket for Saturday's tournament.

One big disclaimer: I'm not evaluating the skill of teams based on what I think. It is wrong to evaluate teams by emotion. I'm trying my best to reason my points with recent results of teams. I apologize if I did get overly emotional in evaluating the skills of teams.

Also trying to conjure up a different team to participate in ticketed tournaments in order to get into top 8 contradicts with your saying of playing consistently to get top 8.

Another disclaimer: I'm not condoning teams to find an alternative way for their clan to earn cups without them participating at all.

forest matrix Apr 25, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Honestly @tiny berry many ppl since last twister, that had the exact same tourney mechanism, have tried to explain / demonstrate / convince WG how the ticket system is sick, how the seeding system is flawed. They just don’t care. Repeating like bots that ppl complaining are just not performing well enough.
I mean it’s just like ATGM, just like 183... they just don’t catch the point or they pretend not catching it.

analog osprey Apr 25, 2020, 12:55 PM

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@pale finch u see clan like w1n with 65avg wr and u see teams with some players who doesn’t have more than 400games but with 90wr that’s funny

pale finch Apr 25, 2020, 1:02 PM

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I agree it’s ridiculous and I’m totally against that, I think they should count win rate + battles of all players and then divide it accordingly and get a much fairer and better average win rate out and I’ve already expressed my opinion about that before

silver vapor Apr 25, 2020, 1:06 PM

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personal rating that used to exist in game is tons better than wr + battle mix alone, then WN7 then WN8

tiny berry Apr 25, 2020, 1:06 PM

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@pallid raven wrong comparison. What you say ist that when Germany is playing qualifiers, beating almost everything and then lose one single game against a weaker opponent they should not even go to the World Cup. These tournaments are qualifiers, not elimination rounds. Maybe some people should look up what consistency means. Consistency means winning most Games on AVERAGE, not winning every game. Now, of course I see people like Zird will use every argument to disqualify their competition. But no matter what you think of Raids or Fbis move their is no doubt in any reaonable Person that the System in itself is flawed.

glass thunder Apr 25, 2020, 1:07 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/595375814544064574/702999834713522268/unknown.png?width=1026&height=377 rerolls be like xd

crisp shore Apr 25, 2020, 1:08 PM

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I literally forgot personal rating existed back in the days! XD

pallid raven Apr 25, 2020, 1:08 PM

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@tiny berry if you think the system is flawed don't exploit it then. Because if you do, you are as flawed as the system.

bright tundra Apr 25, 2020, 1:22 PM

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@analog osprey Using winrate as a whole is stupid because it’s not shit like the 100% account that hurts w1n and fbi. It’s the fact that most of the teams above them have multiple 70% rerolls while they have 0. I looked now and from what I can tell LXN doesn’t even have as many rerolls as some others - they simply have a 100% acc. Is that worse or better than having 4-5 70% rerolls? How about winrates that include 8000 battles in Dracula or 4000 battles in Ke Ni Otsu? Winrate as a whole is a trash metric. The rules being shit doesn’t mean participants should abuse them as much as possible, though. If anyone outside the participants cared about blitz tournaments all this garbage would be seen as a disgrace.

glass thunder Apr 25, 2020, 1:27 PM

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the best system you can do is to count wr of tier 10 and with number of battels

azure pecan Apr 25, 2020, 1:29 PM

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For me the best system is to use a ranked point similar to the old one, similar to wn8 but which not depends of server stats

With points depending mainly on: your avg tier on last 1000battles, your wr, you dmg avg/tier, you xp avg

edit cooldown: @turbid sinew yes it is, but we are discussing about what should be counted to build the strongest vs weakest positions

turbid sinew Apr 25, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I think strongest Vs weakest is best for you since you can break it with your reroll

bright tundra Apr 25, 2020, 1:33 PM

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I think WG should use Ranked battles to determine seeding in order to freshen up the drama from the old and tired stuff about account sharing, emulators, winrate padding etc. Even this ticket stuff got old fast.

tiny berry Apr 25, 2020, 1:33 PM

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@pallid raven the System taketh and the System giveth. Noone is happy to do it but maybe this will make WG think how dumb their rules are.

azure pecan Apr 25, 2020, 1:35 PM

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@bright tundra ranked battles ? You obviously carry more in 3k rating games than in 5k
It would also means that you have to play ratings (which is not especially a pleasure lol)

upbeat iris Apr 25, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Why not get something like ELO ratings for clans and individuals? Yes there might be too few tournaments and people swap clans a lot true. But If there are 4 big tourneys a year and an ELO system, wouldn’t that also make teams more keen on staying together in the same clan as well, since constantly leaving and rejoining will only drop their rating and thus make for a harder run?

turbid sinew Apr 25, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Weak teams with lots of rerolls are considered as strongest and play vs weakest, meanwhile actual strongest teams have to play good top 16 teams. And then clans that are breaking strongest vs weakest system complain about fair play

gentle sierra Apr 25, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Why not just have more ascents , just like in twister , we had 4 non-ticketed and 4 ticketed ascents , it worked out just fine for the top 8 , allowed room for 1 mistake at least (fbi missing a ticket but still making top 8 )

bright tundra Apr 25, 2020, 1:40 PM

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@azure pecan I’m joking. It’s all pointless and useless. Any system WG creates will have winners and losers, flaws and loopholes, and since it’s the same participants every year they’ll be abused to the max for personal gain because no one forgets. Next tournament or next year, with a new system, it will be the exact same people playing as today - same people who saw the FBI and Raid ticket thing. They’ll say “the system giveth and the system taketh” and maximise their results.

glass thunder Apr 25, 2020, 1:43 PM

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@gentle sierra we do have same now just last season wining in ticket tournament give lot of points but this year wining ticket tournament give just few cups extra than others
last year ticket tournament was rewarding to do well on it this year ticket tournament is rewards for just playing it

blissful cave Apr 25, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Well if it's not against the rules then it's legal so They can do that, but still it's unfair

wintry hound Apr 25, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Being consistent in a game which isn't consistent itself megalul

azure pecan Apr 25, 2020, 7:06 PM

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I thought last chance tournament was only taking place if there were 2 clans that has same points ?

analog osprey Apr 25, 2020, 7:17 PM

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3 times Normandy pls

spice briar Apr 25, 2020, 7:17 PM

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xddd

gentle sierra Apr 25, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Well , we wont play it in prof , might as well play it today , 3 times 😂 , or more , who knows

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Whoopz is bad

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whats this

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2 times in a row same map, nothing new

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analog osprey Apr 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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@thorn shale 3 times*

tropic lotus Apr 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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will the spectator issue be fixed in 6.10?

tranquil seal Apr 25, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Wow.

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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fix spectator mode so I can stream LGN pls and i hope it's possible to be a pc spectator in a mobile tourny

cobalt yarrow Apr 25, 2020, 7:39 PM

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3 times

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spice briar Apr 25, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i think everyone realized until now

dreamy adder Apr 25, 2020, 8:06 PM

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whats this
@thorn shale removed from pros so to not let it be useless

balmy ocean Apr 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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fake kiwi? @thorn shale :wg:

pale finch Apr 25, 2020, 8:15 PM

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@balmy ocean valorant KEKW

spice briar Apr 25, 2020, 8:16 PM

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give me a key ffs

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

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@balmy ocean nah just another account 🤫

leaden belfry Apr 25, 2020, 8:39 PM

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map consistency 👀

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lawnmower-cam consistency too

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 8:41 PM

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i got a lawnmower game, veri gud game, reminds me of spectator mode

tiny berry Apr 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Wonderful community. Nice to see skill and competition being rewarded.

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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truly

azure pecan Apr 25, 2020, 9:01 PM

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So last chance tournament will be cancelled right ? There isn’t any clans with same points in hall of fame EU

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 9:02 PM

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probably

turbid sinew Apr 25, 2020, 9:13 PM

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No we play it for ze kredits and free expi

odd basalt Apr 25, 2020, 9:28 PM

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big bucks

azure pecan Apr 25, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Whole clan recieve the ticket for pro/challenger tour?

cobalt yarrow Apr 25, 2020, 9:49 PM

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yes

civic glacier Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Since wg don’t want to make new professional camo, I think they should keep the same pattern but make two new colors each season

Edit: @chilly terrace Could this be a possibility? Maybe for next season if not this one?

solar coral Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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pure lava Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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🤔

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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i can already tell u the answer
wg: lol nah fam we good

wintry hound Apr 25, 2020, 11:05 PM

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that would be pretty cool

azure pecan Apr 25, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Why just not design New ones in that case ?
And do a pro camo grade system like someone from w1n proposed, there should be pro Camo level 1, 2, 3 for guys that are getting pro camos several times

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 11:19 PM

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@azure pecan idea is good. Like some progressive avatars we have but now with proffesional camos. Pls WG make it happen, for sure it will motivate more the players which already have professionals camo.

pale finch Apr 25, 2020, 11:19 PM

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At least replace the orange and blue color, make it purple and red or something if they want to keep the same pattern

low badger Apr 25, 2020, 11:21 PM

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I'm very happy with my 20k credit reward for the camos. Best gift for making pro tourney every six months

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

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If u want to motivate players just add t10 CW reward tanks. Watch how all the 65% bench players for Loca and LGN move to new clans

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I'm very happy with my 20k credit reward for the camos. Best gift for making pro tourney every six months
@low badger didn’t u know that there’s not reward for the camos anymore? Now u know

analog osprey Apr 25, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Zird red camo is impossible normally

low badger Apr 25, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Dammit rip my 20k credirs

pale finch Apr 25, 2020, 11:38 PM

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True because of hitskins didn’t think of that dude

thorn shale Apr 25, 2020, 11:51 PM

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There lots of colors left don’t worry xD

gentle sierra Apr 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

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@thorn shale wdym

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If they add tanks as a reward it probably gonna be some tier 7 with a 50% crew

analog osprey Apr 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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For new camos they just need to see some football’s kits xd

lunar stirrup Apr 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Pink and white xD

wintry hound Apr 26, 2020, 1:22 AM

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@thorn shale que?

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Siema

pure lava Apr 26, 2020, 6:24 AM

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🤔

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 7:34 AM

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We already have some reddish camos, i dont think it would interfere that badly. Other camos would be cool. Reward vehicles as well but dont make them like 121B or Chieftain in WoTB, one is useless the other is strictly op

worn bolt Apr 26, 2020, 8:05 AM

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...how is chieftain op?
Anyways, some nicer rewards would be cool, whether it be new camos, new tanks, or just in-game currency (10k gold per member of the winning team in Spring seems a bit low, don’t you think?)

hardy prairie Apr 26, 2020, 8:08 AM

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@worn bolt that professional 1st place reward is individual. Only the money is split ya dummy. Same for 2-4

Edit response cuz slowmode: Well then just win twister cup offline too duh ez yw

worn bolt Apr 26, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Only 10k gold for ~2 months of tournaments, and that’s if you win the whole thing. I don’t want to sound greedy here, but that’s a bit low considering the dedication and time put in by teams to make it into the top 8, let alone for the one which wins.

mellow hawk Apr 26, 2020, 8:22 AM

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@worn bolt it’s WG, why would they give you more than the bare minimum for your effort?

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 9:15 AM

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@chilly terrace
I want to apologize, I behaved badly yesterday and it was 100% right to ban me. I am sorry and will never act that stupid again 🙌
I take full responsibility of my moronish actions

jaunty timber Apr 26, 2020, 9:22 AM

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someone can inv me in a team for the tier 8 tournaments pls i need a lot of money

median mason Apr 26, 2020, 9:24 AM

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@jaunty timber #tourneys-team-search . IMO uprising mode is better option to farm credits

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 AM

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inb4 u lose 10 games in a row each taking longer than a random game

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 10:18 AM

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you don’t win if you don’t try 🤷🏻‍♂️

chilly terrace Apr 26, 2020, 10:46 AM

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@chilly terrace the difference between playing consistently well and not being able to do ONE mistake is known to you? Or are you saying that Ra1d has not been playing consistently well for the last... well, years? You can disagree with what Ra1d and FBI are doing, I can understand the argument. But defending the utterly flawed tournament structure by saying such a clichee like "play consistently" instead of listening to the community and improving your obviously unsatisfactory system is - unfortunately - very typical.
@tiny berry
Oh, I know this difference. You said that team which didn't receive ticket made ONE mistake, but it's the truth. Why do you think that you still have chance to be in top-8, if you didn't receive ticket in one tournament? Moreover, it's not hard to calculate that team which placed at first places would still in top-8 even if they didn't receive tickets for the last tournament, which means that it's already not ONE mistake. The main problem that you think that this team deserves to be in top-8, but our system thinks it doesn't. And whatever system you can suggest there will be some teams that they deserver higher places, but often it doesn't true.

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I agree with most of your points. However, what I am arguing here is the disproportionality of the cups system, which is arguably contradicting to what you might all define "consistency". I am working on providing my arguments, and I shall present my results as soon as possible. The point we might want to agree with is that how well a team should be doing in order to afford losing a ticket for Saturday's tournament.

One big disclaimer: I'm not evaluating the skill of teams based on what I think. It is wrong to evaluate teams by emotion. I'm trying my best to reason my points with recent results of teams. I apologize if I did get overly emotional in evaluating the skills of teams.

Also trying to conjure up a different team to participate in ticketed tournaments in order to get into top 8 contradicts with your saying of playing consistently to get top 8.

Another disclaimer: I'm not condoning teams to find an alternative way for their clan to earn cups without them participating at all.
@crisp shore
Looking forward to see it.

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Honestly @tiny berry many ppl since last twister, that had the exact same tourney mechanism, have tried to explain / demonstrate / convince WG how the ticket system is sick, how the seeding system is flawed. They just don’t care. Repeating like bots that ppl complaining are just not performing well enough.
I mean it’s just like ATGM, just like 183... they just don’t catch the point or they pretend not catching it.
@forest matrix
And no one provided sound arguments. System could be slightly improved, but generally it works well.

wintry hound Apr 26, 2020, 10:55 AM

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@chilly terrace It's hard to be consistent when there are a lot of luck factors like: penetration RNG, damage per shot RNG, module damage RNG like ammoracks which can literally decide if a team wins or not, aiming RNG. It's hard to be consistently good all the time.

chilly terrace Apr 26, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Why not get something like ELO ratings for clans and individuals? Yes there might be too few tournaments and people swap clans a lot true. But If there are 4 big tourneys a year and an ELO system, wouldn’t that also make teams more keen on staying together in the same clan as well, since constantly leaving and rejoining will only drop their rating and thus make for a harder run?
@upbeat iris
When there will be much more tournament players, it will be worth to implement ELO.

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Why not just have more ascents , just like in twister , we had 4 non-ticketed and 4 ticketed ascents , it worked out just fine for the top 8 , allowed room for 1 mistake at least (fbi missing a ticket but still making top 8 )
@gentle sierra
Unfortunately, we received much reports from players that the format of Ascent in Twister season is exhausted. Also there is not so good to make season much longer then current, so we decided to do a bit less tournaments.

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So last chance tournament will be cancelled right ? There isn’t any clans with same points in hall of fame EU
@azure pecan Yeah, you are right. Last chance will be held only on ASIA server.

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 11:02 AM

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@thorn shale que?
@wintry hound t10 tournament reward tanks (Maybe obj 260 or obj 907 or something like that). If you earn 3-5k personal cups you can redeem 1 tournament reward tank. I know its a long shot but I'd like to see it

chilly terrace Apr 26, 2020, 11:03 AM

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Since wg don’t want to make new professional camo, I think they should keep the same pattern but make two new colors each season

Edit: @chilly terrace Could this be a possibility? Maybe for next season if not this one?
@civic glacier
Honestly, I can't say you how it will be changed, if it is.

azure pecan Apr 26, 2020, 11:05 AM

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I dont think its a good idea considering that wg always finish by solding for golds the tanks (and camos) you earned with a lot of value, so finnally they dont have value, which is disgussting. I remember back in years when i was still a big avg player, i tryharded a lot to get that kpf pz 70 t9 by being top1000 EU. Most likely it was my tank i was the most proud to have obtained. And then they sold it for golds lmao gg wp. Now same for all mega old camos.. Basically every camos or tanks that have value are being sold later so no

Thanks for the answer rexy

edit cooldown : @chilly terrace So for example if one day they make new pro camos, the old pro camos might become accessible for top16 ?

chilly terrace Apr 26, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Why just not design New ones in that case ?
And do a pro camo grade system like someone from w1n proposed, there should be pro Camo level 1, 2, 3 for guys that are getting pro camos several times
@azure pecan
As I said there are two unique camouflages for Professional players. If there will be new unique, it worth to expect that older camouflages become more accessible.

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@chilly terrace It's hard to be consistent when there are a lot of luck factors like: penetration RNG, damage per shot RNG, module damage RNG like ammoracks which can literally decide if a team wins or not, aiming RNG. It's hard to be consistently good all the time.
@wintry hound
All players are in this conditions, aren't they? But there are still some who play better then other.

wintry hound Apr 26, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Yes they are, but sometimes a team can go on a luck streak and eliminate a team just by luck. By lowering down the luck factor you make the game more competitive - that's my opinion.

chilly terrace Apr 26, 2020, 11:12 AM

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edit cooldown : @chilly terrace So for example if one day they make new pro camos, the old pro camos might become accessible for top16 ?
@azure pecan
It's one of possible cases. The main point is that we can't create the big heap of camouflages which are accessible only for 100-200 players.

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Yes they are, but sometimes a team can go on a luck streak and eliminate a team just by luck. By lowering down the luck factor you make the game more competitive - that's my opinion.
@wintry hound
I got your point. But I see some teams that have been on the top despite all things that you mentioned for years.

versed field Apr 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

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I hope to see in next season seeding system which not takes rerolls count in it

azure pecan Apr 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

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how would you solve the problem engy

wintry hound Apr 26, 2020, 11:21 AM

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@wintry hound
I got your point. But I see some teams that have been on the top despite all things that you mentioned for years.
@chilly terrace
Some do some don't. If there is a deciding match the luck factor takes a bigger role. Scoring a ammorack between two somewhat equally skilled team is detrimental.

how would you solve the problem engy
@azure pecan
I'm not a game expert at any means, but I think for example :by minimizing the chance of ammorack explosion to 0% when the ammorack isn't damaged, would help a lot, same with fires. Pen RNG was lowered but it should be lowered a bit more imo. And for aim RNG maybe there should be a point during aiming, that the shot has a guarantee chance of hitting where desired. For damage RNG just make it constant like in the realistic game mode.

For tournaments/ranked at least

azure pecan Apr 26, 2020, 11:26 AM

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I agree for the alpha rng this is really the annoyest and non-sens rng in CWs
The ammorack destroying a game isnt any sens too, but it should be better if it was at least bo5 (an ammorack on a bo3 match is obiously too impacting)
But for the aim rng is sounds impossible for me. The heavys will have a lower effacity as heavys and TDs will most likely be broken as they almost everytime have the time to be full aimed
Also i think that tanks with troll accuracy will become too overpowered

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 11:26 AM

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We are 10th place in the Hall of Fame. We were playing almost every day for two months or so and gave our best. Lots of work and passion went into it. And we didn’t make our way into the Top8 because 2 teams decided to screw FairPlay over. Feels sad man, we would be 8th place instead of 10th but that’s how it is 🙂 challenger will be fun and we will still give our best

@wintry hound speaking of ammoracks: one of our E5s got full HP ammoracked after 30 seconds against LOCA. Not that it would make a big difference against them but still..

glass thunder Apr 26, 2020, 11:27 AM

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well FBI didnt make it and if raid out w1n go top 8

wintry hound Apr 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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I agree for the alpha rng this is really the annoyest and non-sens rng in CWs
The ammorack destroying a game isnt any sens too, but it should be better if it was at least bo5 (an ammorack on a bo3 match is obiously too impacting)
But for the aim rng is sounds impossible for me. The heavys will have a lower effacity as heavys and TDs will most likely be broken as they almost everytime have the time to be full aimed
@azure pecan
I agree with a larger number of games the luck factor isn't as big, but a lost round to a ammorack or RNG is still a thing. The aim border thing could be adjusted depending on the class of the tank. Or just decreasing the chances of the shell not hitting where it supposed it be.

We are 10th place in the Hall of Fame. We were playing almost every day for two months or so and gave our best. Lots of work and passion went into it. And we didn’t make our way into the Top8 because 2 teams decided to screw FairPlay over. Feels sad man, we would be 8th place instead of 10th but that’s how it is 🙂 challenger will be fun and we will still give our best

@wintry hound speaking of ammoracks: one of our E5s got full HP ammoracked after 30 seconds against LOCA. Not that it would make a big difference against them but still..
@thorn shale
I'm sad to hear that. But if you knew about this "loophole" imo it's no brainer to use it.
And for the ammorack thing, it happened to us multiple times, even in yesterday's tournament :))))

azure pecan Apr 26, 2020, 11:31 AM

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@glass thunder it does matter for lxn, they are 10th and you are 9th
so if fbi and raid was below they would be top8 in theory and w1n is below lxn

glass thunder Apr 26, 2020, 11:35 AM

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true i was wrong

versed field Apr 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Good luck for everyone who made top 8&16💪

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Hello

pale finch Apr 26, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Feels like there are way more ammo racks in trainings and tournaments now than before, guess it’s about the tanks being meta right now

odd basalt Apr 26, 2020, 12:22 PM

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E5 is a moving ammorack

manic pewter Apr 26, 2020, 12:28 PM

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All tanks are. Hidden changes are OP

lofty vector Apr 26, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Tomorrow,we play tournaments

tiny berry Apr 26, 2020, 12:36 PM

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I think a certain amount of RNG will always be a part of WOT and this is fine. And of course, there will never be a perfect System. However, there is "not perfect" and there is completely screwed up like the current Ticket system. I think everyone agrees these ascent tournaments are some kind of qualifiers for the Main Event. What sense does it make to have a BO3-elimination feature in QUALIFIERS? Qualifiers should determine the consistently best 8 Teams, not the 8 Teams who happened to win every first round. The whole system would still work perfectly fine without the idiotic tickets. You'd still be punished when losing the first round by getting less points but ONE mistake would not automatically destroy an otherwise excellent record. Again, it should be about consistency, not random luck. No reasonable league in sports or eSports has such a random ticket System. Of course no surprise WG claims everything they do is perfect.

tranquil seal Apr 26, 2020, 12:42 PM

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#tourneys-team-search
#clan-recruitment

tropic lotus Apr 26, 2020, 1:06 PM

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🤔

forest matrix Apr 26, 2020, 1:24 PM

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@chilly terrace sry mate I think you may answer this to many here but not to me. I took some time after last twister making some kind of analysis of the tournament setup in order to point out how flawed the ticket system was. If you truly wish to have a look on it you may go back on 15/09/19 discussion that took place right here after this post

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More specifically, one of the proposal from RS was the to remove or reduce the ticket system importance, All u had to answer at this point was that we were raging after our elimination (I will post your exact feedback once slowdown is off).
So basically while some key actors from the competitive landscape give you advice to modify the setup for next major series, you decided to simply copy / paste it for the spring season 2020. Brilliant.
And guess what ? The same system conducted to the same issues (basically irrelevant seeding system combined with irrelevant ticket system).
I understand the job to design the « perfect » system is hard but we as a community tried to evidence some possible improvements that you basically ignored. So once again : pls improve seeding system (for example focusing it on tier X battles with a minimum of battles) and remove the tickets

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chilly terrace Apr 26, 2020, 1:34 PM

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@forest matrix
I saw this message and as far as I remember I commented this. It's obviously normal situation that getting of tickets is harder for some clans, because luck is a part of any competition. We will have outsiders and teams which are likely to be winners. If you get bad way in non-ticketed Ascents, it doesn't mean that system is broken. I'm sure that if you compared all teams which receive tickets, you would see that the most of them has plus/minus the same "difficulty of tickets" whatever it means.

forest matrix Apr 26, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Sorry @chilly terrace but this is not about words like luck / hard / easy but I tried to make it analytics as you WG are always doing for anything (like tank balance even ATGM....).
Of course the weakest / strongest mechanism implies that it will be harder for some. That’s not a problem I’m fine with this and most are.
No the issue is, considering you create this huge advantage to the so-called strongest, how do you determine who is the strongest, how relevant it is and finally how easily this seeding could be rigged.
Thanks to this spring tournament you can very clearly see that some teams have engineered their roster to leverage on the seeding system !! This should at least question yourself when you see this happening. Some accounts were specifically designed for the seeding system purpose! Come on!

Then come the question about the ticket : what are they designed for? What is the goal of these tickets ? Why create artificially such a decisive step - if not generate some useless drama ?
You do not need them as a tie-breaker (last chance tournament can serve as tie breaker), so what is the point?
As a result, this ticket system makes every team plays a one-month long season on... 4 single games which is just the opposite of your sustained performance principle. And there comes the luck if ever you have a technical or any issue during this particulare game or a terrible draw! But f*** luck ! We are here to select the best not the luckiest !

stark crow Apr 26, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Lmao

civic glacier Apr 26, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Lol

glass thunder Apr 26, 2020, 3:04 PM

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he is right tbh you can't determine who is the strongest by looking player wr looking t10 wr and maybe combine it with avg damage can be better

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 3:04 PM

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This chat is weirdchamp

chilly hemlock Apr 26, 2020, 3:18 PM

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@median mantle not necessary

median mantle Apr 26, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Sorry i just wanted to help finding a nice tagline 😦

analog osprey Apr 26, 2020, 3:37 PM

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@median mantle be carful with these moders

pure lava Apr 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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hmmmmmmm

chilly terrace Apr 26, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Sorry @chilly terrace but this is not about words like luck / hard / easy but I tried to make it analytics as you WG are always doing for anything (like tank balance even ATGM....).
Of course the weakest / strongest mechanism implies that it will be harder for some. That’s not a problem I’m fine with this and most are.
No the issue is, considering you create this huge advantage to the so-called strongest, how do you determine who is the strongest, how relevant it is and finally how easily this seeding could be rigged.
Thanks to this spring tournament you can very clearly see that some teams have engineered their roster to leverage on the seeding system !! This should at least question yourself when you see this happening. Some accounts were specifically designed for the seeding system purpose! Come on!

@forest matrix

You shouldn't have considered only 9 teams, if you wanted analyze efficiency correctly. That's what I told about. You should've considered all teams that received at least one ticket. Anyway, I got your point, but still disagree with the most thing that you said.

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Then come the question about the ticket : what are they designed for? What is the goal of these tickets ? Why create artificially such a decisive step - if not generate some useless drama ?
You do not need them as a tie-breaker (last chance tournament can serve as tie breaker), so what is the point?
As a result, this ticket system makes every team plays a one-month long season on... 4 single games which is just the opposite of your sustained performance principle. And there comes the luck if ever you have a technical or any issue during this particulare game or a terrible draw! But f*** luck ! We are here to select the best not the luckiest !
@forest matrix

It's not so hard to guess. Because this system makes such clan distribution that often doesn't cause situations when Last Chance is needed. The Last Chance tournament is created for unlikely cases. If there weren't ticketed tournaments, we would see much more clans on the same places after even 16 tournaments.

forest matrix Apr 26, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@chilly terrace thanks for answering - The 9 team analysis was very specific to the last twister. I will try to make a relevant for the last spring as well.
At the end, you did not answer the point of teams rigging the system with let’s say fake high wr accounts. I really expect WG to address this and propose an enhanced seeding system (as many here like @glass thunder I would really support a bit more sophisticated system based on tier 10 battles WR with a minimum battles threshold - I mean that is really something easy to code why not giving it a chance ??!).

And regarding the benefits of tickets, I understand them as needed to avoid tied clans as they were during 2019 spring season. Well... I will have a closer look at it, and maybe try to convince you with some data, but I honestly think they are not needed. Or at least that you could propose some less hazardous ways of avoiding tied teams.
Anyway thanks for letting the debate happen

atomic tartan Apr 26, 2020, 5:15 PM

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they could completely get rid of dispersion as a gun stat and balance everything by aim times. so if you managed to aim for a year, you'll never miss. if someone sits there and lets you aim for a year on them they deserve to get penned. accuracy rng especially on fully aimed shots is the dumbest thing ever

sly axle Apr 26, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Tickets should only be able to be used in the clan they were earned in.

patent quartz Apr 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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AT least the Battle threshold is a must have, too many 5k battles accs with 1 battle at T10 for 100% wr are among those "high wr" teams, if they have enough of those accs they can adjust their wr taking into account the other teams wr and face whoever they want to, let's put an end to this like @forest matrix mentionned

tropic lotus Apr 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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accounts with more battles should be weighted heavier than 100% one battle accounts in terms of team wr.

gleaming pollen Apr 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Rexy has already Said that this Will Be The case in future ascent tournaments @sly axle

obsidian vine Apr 26, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@atomic tartan i actually like that idea and it could work

atomic tartan Apr 26, 2020, 5:42 PM

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yea and you can balance gun handling by how long it takes to aim, and how much the bloom changes when you make movements

tropic lotus Apr 26, 2020, 5:55 PM

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that’s actually not a bad idea

wintry hound Apr 26, 2020, 6:04 PM

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You would have to balance TDs tho. Like deathstar camping in the back will be able to fully aim

hardy prairie Apr 26, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I see no issue with that

wintry hound Apr 26, 2020, 6:23 PM

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But how would u do that ,?

bold cave Apr 26, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Sa

grave sundial Apr 26, 2020, 6:27 PM

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a.s

tropic lotus Apr 26, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Give it a larger aim time probably

hardy prairie Apr 26, 2020, 7:31 PM

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This change would promote a very campy playstyle tbh. I dislike the idea now that I think about it

flat goblet Apr 26, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Sounds like cs go meta. Corner peeking, if you are moving, down to rng. Wouldn't work for a slower game without appropriate abilities.

obsidian vine Apr 26, 2020, 9:21 PM

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But you could make this mechanic only for certain types of tanks, like all meds or all heavys.... just an idea

bitter valley Apr 26, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Touch,PC tournament will be come back?

broken jungle Apr 26, 2020, 9:37 PM

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@atomic tartan

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 10:42 PM

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https://youtu.be/5jdl1vzno1g
spring season summarized

YouTube

APA___Ernest

Spring Season 2020

▶ Play video

slender flare Apr 26, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Gold

thorn shale Apr 26, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Best vid ever

azure pecan Apr 26, 2020, 11:02 PM

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God

shadow topaz Apr 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Thanks

crimson island Apr 27, 2020, 6:08 AM

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😍

analog osprey Apr 27, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Masterclass

split seal Apr 27, 2020, 7:10 AM

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guys, I got small question. What's the best tech-tree tier 8 tank for 1vs1

tender shell Apr 27, 2020, 7:15 AM

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@split seal #general-blitz-discussion please

split seal Apr 27, 2020, 7:21 AM

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?

tender shell Apr 27, 2020, 7:22 AM

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@split seal This is not the right place to discuss this

split seal Apr 27, 2020, 7:31 AM

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i thought it is, because of tournament channel name. If not, sorry

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 9:50 AM

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@chilly terrace could you please pm me?

chilly terrace Apr 27, 2020, 10:01 AM

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@chilly terrace could you please pm me?
@thorn shale
You could pm me as well

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 10:06 AM

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You have blocked this option, cant even invite you to friends

@thorn shale
You could pm me as well
@chilly terrace

echo wagon Apr 27, 2020, 11:47 AM

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I agree with shortgun. We (LXN) used this season a 100% account, but didnt know at the beginning it have such an impact on team wr. But yes we really looked at our team wr, because in twister we did not reach top 16 with L1T. In @forest matrix message you can see, that we lost cause of the seeding system. Wg did not change the System and so we have to change our team roaster to get top 16. That we play for top 8 at the end was a surprise even for us.
I hope in the next seasons you dont have to desgin a team with good wr to get top 16 or top 8. I hope the cw skill will decide.

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 12:24 PM

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You dont need to design a team with good wr to get to top 16 or top 8... Look at W1N or FBI both near top 8 this season and they were top 4 and 3 on Twister... Your team is kinda the best example, you have 100%wr account and u looked forward to abuse the seeding with such reroll and u still didnt get top 8

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Hi

echo wagon Apr 27, 2020, 12:30 PM

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@thorn shale our Goal was top 16. Last season we played in the clan L1T. Look at our seeding in Twister with this team. Maby than you understand. And the 100% Player was our t22 player. Thats why he played for us and not because he have 100%.

Edit: We have more than 1 Player @thorn shale.

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 12:32 PM

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I also want to tell u to look at W1Ns and FBIs wr last twister. Now you say you had the 100%wr acc bcs he is your t22 player, but on the last message you said ur team (LXN) was really looking at your team wr bcs u didnt reach top 16 last twister bcs (as u say) ur seeding.

Edit: more than 1 player? I dont understand u at all @echo wagon

echo wagon Apr 27, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Some Players have more than 1 acc and played with their better wr System. Or we looked for og players in our Clan with good wr Who didnt play for some months

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Uhm yeah, and? Lmao

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At the beggining u said ur team was really looking at the wr bcs u guys blame ur position on twister cos of the wr u had back then. While W1N and FBI (both) without rerolls and low wr, got into top 4 and then, u are saying u hope that one day the cw skill decide? W1N and FBI are the best example that skill decide and they perfectly showed that on Twister. After saying that message your answer to my first one was that u have the 100%wr guy cos hes t22 player, you are basically contradicting yourself. I hope its clear.

glass thunder Apr 27, 2020, 12:48 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/595375814544064574/702999834713522268/unknown.png?width=1026&height=377

xd FBI are so bad they were 23 th on wr

hollow bolt Apr 27, 2020, 12:50 PM

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@thorn shale Having a higher WR gives you an advantage, and it's very easy to artificially inflate your WR. That means people who don't deserves the advantage can still have it, which is unfair. The system clearly doesn't work to get top teams if not one but two different clans have to use another clans players to get to where they apparently should be.

median mason Apr 27, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Well, I wanna see that 75% wr team getting into top4😆

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 12:51 PM

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@thorn shale Having a higher WR gives you an advantage, and it's very easy to artificially inflate your WR. That means people who don't deserves the advantage can still have it, which is unfair. The system clearly doesn't work to get top teams if not one but two different clans have to use another clans players to get to where they apparently should be.
@hollow bolt Yeah i know it lmao i think i played enough tourneys to notice.

glass thunder Apr 27, 2020, 12:54 PM

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one good thing can happen is 8 teams rig the wr system so they go top 8 on wr and play vs second level teams of wr and all those top 8 wr teams lose xd

gentle sierra Apr 27, 2020, 1:11 PM

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@median mason toxic

median mason Apr 27, 2020, 1:11 PM

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And that 72% wr one also (on the right) :D

median mantle Apr 27, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Listen bro, it doesn’t matter if at the end of the day only the best teams achieve the top positions. THe sEedinG SyStem iS wrOng ANd tHEre is nOTHing to ADd @thorn shale

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Listen bro, Im not saying that the system is good. Of course is bad and it has to change lmao @median mantle

gentle sierra Apr 27, 2020, 1:19 PM

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@median mason again toxic

forest sable Apr 27, 2020, 1:59 PM

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In the little experience I have of tournaments I enjoy them, except one thing that I think breaks them

patent quartz Apr 27, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@vital obsidian funny enough, isn't it?

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cobalt yarrow Apr 27, 2020, 3:00 PM

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very funny

vital obsidian Apr 27, 2020, 3:01 PM

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ahhh i expect at least one Brrrrrr

slender flare Apr 27, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Love eachothers 😌

analog osprey Apr 27, 2020, 3:19 PM

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@median mason +1

glass thunder Apr 27, 2020, 3:21 PM

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@slender flare i will make qt team and call it RA1DTY will you join me?

slender flare Apr 27, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Pay me 😈

tranquil seal Apr 27, 2020, 3:34 PM

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@patent quartz what does Kouga have to do with that?

patent quartz Apr 27, 2020, 3:34 PM

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she's immor's leader isn't she?

slender flare Apr 27, 2020, 3:37 PM

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FBI is doin memes too i dont understand wheres the problem

stark crow Apr 27, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Dont your remember some of your members does the same against IMM0R and kouga? @patent quartz

glass thunder Apr 27, 2020, 3:43 PM

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stay in topic guys keep this channel clean

stark crow Apr 27, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Yes true

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 4:31 PM

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no keep it dirty

slender flare Apr 27, 2020, 4:51 PM

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U just woke up so go away @thorn shale

atomic tartan Apr 27, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Hold on IMMOR leader is a she? Wheres Moey the simp

dreamy adder Apr 27, 2020, 5:18 PM

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no keep it dirty
@thorn shale starfirullah u killed ur day

fresh inlet Apr 27, 2020, 6:12 PM

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@patent quartz what is your problem?

lunar stirrup Apr 27, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I think someone needs to be muted xD
<@&481447501690568709>

thorn shale Apr 27, 2020, 6:18 PM

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What's up

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why do u tag mods? nice usseles tag @lunar stirrup

hard lagoon Apr 27, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Can I use a t2 tank for a tournament?

glass thunder Apr 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Weird chat in tournament channel i think wg should do age check to allow others talk here

median mantle Apr 27, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Fortunately enough WG doesnt do good faith check

tropic lotus Apr 28, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Spectator was fixed!!

atomic tartan Apr 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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that's nice.
totally missed playing normandy and hellas

hardy prairie Apr 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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totally.

tidal eagle Apr 28, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Is the spring ascent last chance tourney registration time expired in Asia? I thought we still have 4 hours to register the team but apparently I can't see my team in garage or in clan chat. Someone help. ;-;

silver vapor Apr 28, 2020, 4:56 AM

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please read the rules and regulations of the tournament. The registration of the tournament has ended 13 hours ago.

tidal eagle Apr 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Dang... I thought registration would end is usual time like before. But either way, thank you @silver vapor

silver vapor Apr 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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don't just assume. read. this has costed so many different teams their chance to participate in various tournaments in the past already.

tidal eagle Apr 28, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Yeah. Lesson learned the hard way. 😖

chilly terrace Apr 28, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Yeah. Lesson learned the hard way. 😖
@tidal eagle
Moreover, your team would be disqualified even if you registered according to regulations. There is rule which says that only clans from Top and Middle echelons can participate in this tournament.

waxen otter Apr 28, 2020, 9:12 AM

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I tried to calculate the difficulty for Spring Season EU Clans which are in Middle and Top Division. I didnt count Matches for Place 3. THIS IS ONLY FOR THURSDAY ASCENT TOURNAMENT

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gentle sierra Apr 28, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Wat

median mason Apr 28, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Black Excel theme #respect

azure pecan Apr 28, 2020, 9:20 AM

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so ? whats the message behind this excell
i mean, is it still a surprise that all clans dont have the same chances to succeed in a strongest vs weakest system

shadow topaz Apr 28, 2020, 9:21 AM

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nice colors

waxen otter Apr 28, 2020, 9:21 AM

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I was just bored xd

glass thunder Apr 28, 2020, 9:22 AM

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damn you can't say that represent the difficulty cause ascent (no ticket ) its all about getting tickets its more in ticket tournament where wr teams get ez way to top 8
also the only time fbi did get first place in normal tournament was vs immor xd

waxen otter Apr 28, 2020, 9:26 AM

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It represents the difficulty for the Thursday ascents. If I have to calculate the difficulty for the whole spring season then I'll be back in 2025.

versed field Apr 28, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Can you count all 4 ticket tourtaments

slender flare Apr 28, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Respect

gleaming pollen Apr 28, 2020, 9:51 AM

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There are couple of problems imo on this spreadsheet
The best Clans are always going to have easy difficulity because

They have More cups so that lowers their difficulity rating right away
They are most likely going to face opponents which have lower cups because they beat them lowering The opponents cups

glass thunder Apr 28, 2020, 10:17 AM

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i have better idea why not make 2 weeks of ascent then 16 teams advance to second stage where we have group of 16 teams with round robine system it will take less than 15 days to finish those bo3 games (3 per day ez ) then take top 8 from second stage to pro tourney
it will give teams more matches vs good teams = better practice for all
and will take almost the real best 8 and there is no wr advantage

broken sedge Apr 28, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Isn't last chance tournament supposed to be cancelled if teams aren't tied for cups?
But it is still not cancelled here in asia and has only 4 teams registered lol

thorn shale Apr 28, 2020, 10:43 AM

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hi

broken sedge Apr 28, 2020, 10:50 AM

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K

river turret Apr 28, 2020, 12:11 PM

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How to apply for professional or challengers tournament live streamer btw? I heard that Asia server lacks streamers so I would like to apply.
@chilly terrace @gleaming ivy

silver vapor Apr 28, 2020, 12:14 PM

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profile background for professional players? 🤔

I want more flex

bitter valley Apr 28, 2020, 1:15 PM

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@chilly terrace Will come back tournaments with both control mode, Pc and Touch?

toxic sonnet Apr 28, 2020, 1:25 PM

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hola

chilly terrace Apr 28, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I tried to calculate the difficulty for Spring Season EU Clans which are in Middle and Top Division. I didnt count Matches for Place 3. THIS IS ONLY FOR THURSDAY ASCENT TOURNAMENT
@waxen otter
Look at these results, we see that clans got easier way to ticketed tournaments placed on the top in the Hall of Fame. It means that the system really works well. Why? Because teams that at the end played better than other had easier way to ticketed tournaments.

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Isn't last chance tournament supposed to be cancelled if teams aren't tied for cups?
But it is still not cancelled here in asia and has only 4 teams registered lol
@broken sedge
There were 2 teams on ASIA that were tied for cups.

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@chilly terrace Will come back tournaments with both control mode, Pc and Touch?
@bitter valley yes, quite soon

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How to apply for professional or challengers tournament live streamer btw? I heard that Asia server lacks streamers so I would like to apply.
@chilly terrace
@river turret Answered in PM.

thorn shale Apr 28, 2020, 1:39 PM

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How is it fair that clans get cups when they are playing in this last chance tourney? Pretend an 8 place team has 9000 cups. What if the two 9th place have 8970? The tie between the clans might break but the 9th place team will beat 8th place and go to professionals.

tropic lotus Apr 28, 2020, 1:54 PM

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There’s gonna be a background for professional players? @silver vapor

Do you know if its for top 8 or 4?

silver vapor Apr 28, 2020, 2:07 PM

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@tropic lotus I'm only suggesting

Who doesn't want the bells and whistles? Lmao

tropic lotus Apr 28, 2020, 2:08 PM

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O ic, would be nice

silver vapor Apr 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Professional Backgrounds
Professional battle pass
Professional Tanks (as opposed to Rating reward tank like IS-6 F)
Professional Attachments
Professional Server
Professional Equipments
Professional Ammo
Professional Consumables
Professional Provisions
Professional crew skills

take a pick (jk ofc)

tranquil seal Apr 28, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Professional ATGMs

silver vapor Apr 28, 2020, 2:40 PM

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ah yes the 100%+ range and ARTY view mode on ATGM

marsh cliff Apr 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@waxen otter
Look at these results, we see that clans got easier way to ticketed tournaments placed on the top in the Hall of Fame. It means that the system really works well. Why? Because teams that at the end played better than other had easier way to ticketed tournaments.
@chilly terrace

Works very well XD
You are taking wr from webside to make tournament tree.
Example:
Account 1battle 100wr + account 50k battle 50wr = 75wr. Logic 😆
This tournament showed how bad it works and how unfair it is.
Some teams had just easy funny way to points and some met every tournament strong enemies.

gentle sierra Apr 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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🤔

azure pecan Apr 28, 2020, 3:20 PM

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imagine saying the system is good after spring 2020

azure pecan Apr 28, 2020, 3:45 PM

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btw there is still the problem reported by a player :

If you got invited to a tournament, check the invit on pc, and then check on touch the invit doesnt appear

obsidian vine Apr 28, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Why y’all complaining just do good and you’ll make top 8 if u can’t beat the teams in ascent ticketed and none ticketed your probably not good enough to be in top 8 anyways. all you literally have to do is beat 2 teams on Thursday, get a ticket, then on Saturday beat 2 - 3 teams and finish in the 1-8 and long as every week you do that you’ll probably make it....

silver vapor Apr 28, 2020, 5:02 PM

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"iT's LiTeRaLlY sO eAsY"

versed field Apr 28, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Ez

obsidian vine Apr 28, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Lol, but still all you have to focus on is getting tickets. It’s not like you have to get first in your group in order to get a ticket. if u get a by it’s 1 match and u get a ticket, or 2 matches If u don’t get a by. I get that the system is not the greatest, but the easiest way is to just to be better as a team. I see as like when people complain about teams, the 40%ers get the same teams as the 70%ers yet u get average players and super Unicums. Skill is key factor, and it’s the same in comp....

atomic tartan Apr 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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the system is designed to produce one champion at the end of the Professionals Tournament. i'd say its been quite successful at that. not much else matters in that grand scheme

chilly terrace Apr 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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How is it fair that clans get cups when they are playing in this last chance tourney? Pretend an 8 place team has 9000 cups. What if the two 9th place have 8970? The tie between the clans might break but the 9th place team will beat 8th place and go to professionals.
@thorn shale
Amount of cups is designed by this way that cases that you described are rare. But if it happens, such teams will meet each other in the first round and the difference between cups won't allow someone to reach new position, it'll only allow to split two tied teams.

thorn shale Apr 28, 2020, 7:02 PM

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👍

glass thunder Apr 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@chilly terrace i have good idea why not make 2 weeks of ascent then 16 teams advance to second stage where we have group of 16 teams with round robine system it will take less than 15 days to finish those bo3 games (3 per day ez ) then take top 8 from second stage to pro tourney
it will give teams more matches vs good teams = better practice for all
and will take almost the real best 8 and there is no wr advantage
my suggestion if you like it

chilly terrace Apr 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@chilly terrace

Works very well XD
You are taking wr from webside to make tournament tree.
Example:
Account 1battle 100wr + account 50k battle 50wr = 75wr. Logic 😆
This tournament showed how bad it works and how unfair it is.
Some teams had just easy funny way to points and some met every tournament strong enemies.
@marsh cliff
It doesn't matter in ticketed tournaments, because it's quite hard to get weak team in opponents. Just because there are not weak teams.
Anyway, this statistic showed above just confirm that system works well in general. I don't see any team in top-8 that reached its position because of this trick.

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@chilly terrace i have good idea why not make 2 weeks of ascent then 16 teams advance to second stage where we have group of 16 teams with round robine system it will take less than 15 days to finish those bo3 games (3 per day ez ) then take top 8 from second stage to pro tourney
it will give teams more matches vs good teams = better practice for all
and will take almost the real best 8 and there is no wr advantage
my suggestion if you like it
@glass thunder
Everything is great except one thing. It'll take ages. Or it will be so exhausted for players.
Generally, I can suggest much more then one options which quite well determine the best team, but all of them will be hated by players who will play it because of time.

glass thunder Apr 28, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@chilly terrace it will take 15 bo3 is 1 game than ascent 14 games (if you make it to fianls)

chilly terrace Apr 28, 2020, 7:29 PM

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@chilly terrace it will take 15 bo3 is 1 game than ascent 14 games (if you make it to fianls)
@glass thunder It will 15 playing days, if we don't count 2 weeks of Ascents. Moreover, two weeks of Ascent won't make 16 teams, if we don't back 4 tournaments per week. There will be much more in top-16 or we will get the same story like in Twister season, when the most players were unsatisfied by frequency of tournaments.

glass thunder Apr 28, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Yes could be but still we can make a better system than the current one that doesn’t mean the current one is bad but its abused a lot specially with rerolls to get better seeding

chilly terrace Apr 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Yes could be but still we can make a better system than the current one that doesn’t mean the current one is bad but its abused a lot specially with rerolls to get better seeding
@glass thunder
If you look at previous season, you will get what I mean. It "works" just in thoughts, but most players will hate the timeframes or/and frequency of tournaments. We implemented huge changes in previous season which made qualifiers system much better and more fair. In fact, there were not so much reports about good sides of new system, but we received so much about exhausted frequency of tournaments. I mean that all things should be balanced. And much players are not ready for such time consumptions that you suggested.

glass thunder Apr 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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i have no idea from where you get reports (maybe from russian server ) but here lot talk about the seeding system

chilly terrace Apr 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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i have no idea from where you get reports (maybe from russian server ) but here lot talk about the seeding system
@glass thunder
Russian server reported nothing about this problem, but there were much discussions about that here.

leaden imp Apr 28, 2020, 8:21 PM

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<@&481447501690568709> any news abt the spectator mode availability in tournaments when it will be back again.

thorn shale Apr 28, 2020, 8:21 PM

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We don't work for Wargaming.

twin sphinx Apr 28, 2020, 8:22 PM

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since they didnt announce anything about it , probably not

leaden belfry Apr 28, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I heard a rumor that it was fixed, but haven't seen anything official yet, so not sure

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Less complaints about the seeding system, I think that's because the RU server is so much bigger than EU, NA and Asia, so a lot more teams have gotten tickets and a lot more teams will have shown up on Saturdays, so there'd have been multiple groups

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Asia, NA and even EU have only ever had 1 group on Saturday, every single time

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So this system is a lot more fair to the RU server than to the rest. So it makes sense that there's little to no complaints about it from there

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Whereas on our servers, teams get stuck vs pretty much the same teams every week and run into the entire top 8 all the time in a single group - because there only is one

gentle sierra Apr 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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on the first week Eu had 2 , still think more ascents would fix the problem , just like it was in Twister but people complained as Rexy said so eh

leaden belfry Apr 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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🤔 ah oki

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Still though, that leaves 1 group 75% of the time

median mantle Apr 28, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Suppress turneys, problems solved 🤷🏿‍♂️

pallid raven Apr 28, 2020, 9:47 PM

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@obsidian vine On Na it's probably so ez

azure pecan Apr 28, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Why y’all complaining just do good and you’ll make top 8 if u can’t beat the teams in ascent ticketed and none ticketed your probably not good enough to be in top 8 anyways. all you literally have to do is beat 2 teams on Thursday, get a ticket, then on Saturday beat 2 - 3 teams and finish in the 1-8 and long as every week you do that you’ll probably make it....
@obsidian vine
Lol it’s not as easy on all servers

On EU there are at least 10-12teams with a decent level - enough to compete well in top8
But the problem is that because of shit seeding system, these teams that has a really mega close level difference face a hugeeee seeding difference between them
That’s all about the debate we hold since some days, and it’s not as simple as if you re good enough to top8 or not

Tbh I even prefer the old system. It was insanely bad but at least there wasn’t place for any not 100% FairPlay move (except wr in strongest vs weakest which is a big problem since everytime but as WG doesn’t listen it doesn’t change )

gentle sierra Apr 28, 2020, 10:04 PM

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May i remind you that with the old system you had 2 teams that won 1 game combined in last years prof ? @azure pecan While you had clans like fbi and the eros team that didnt make it , this years prof is gonna be just a little bit less worse

glass thunder Apr 28, 2020, 10:47 PM

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FBI didnt fail because of system it was just bad luck when we had 6 players vs demoh
and even k4 did help us we lost +1000 point from that ascent and we could get +800 from ticket tournament than what k4 did for us so in this case was bad luck still w1n got rekt by system even they had some good wins vs top teams when some got only ez teams to 1/4 ticket tournament and then fail vs good teams

pale finch Apr 28, 2020, 10:56 PM

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There’s 10 spots in the teams, you should be able to gather 7 no matter the circumstances to be fair

glass thunder Apr 28, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Well i didn’t say it’s not fair

spice briar Apr 28, 2020, 11:09 PM

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pale finch Apr 28, 2020, 11:09 PM

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thorn shale Apr 28, 2020, 11:09 PM

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drifting sage Apr 28, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Hi

pallid raven Apr 28, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Should only use the wr of the 7 players with the lowest win rate in the team 🤐

drifting sage Apr 28, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Idk

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What do you think

obsidian vine Apr 29, 2020, 12:41 AM

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@azure pecan i mean I agree but like.. my point still stands. What dragon said below

atomic tartan Apr 29, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Honestly I think this is a lot of pointless, perhaps even butthurt whining. The same people that cried about T-22 last year spammed the tank once they got their hands on it. Nobody complains about an unfair system if it benefits them

brazen plover Apr 29, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Hi, I'm organizing my own private tournaments. If you want to join you can be a member of facebook group (WoT B Tr)
It is also a particular time, the player with the most points will win a prize (valid for intra-Turkey)

echo wagon Apr 29, 2020, 5:33 AM

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@chilly terrace if you Play 2 weeks accent and than 15 bo3, it will take the same time like 4 weeks accent. So massiv's idea is quit nice

pliant charm Apr 29, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Anyone have a clan I can join for tournaments?

shadow drum Apr 29, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Hey WG please put the hole mark of armor hit

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 8:08 AM

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@chilly terrace if you Play 2 weeks accent and than 15 bo3, it will take the same time like 4 weeks accent. So massiv's idea is quit nice
@echo wagon
I don't know how do you calculate this. Please, look through all that I wrote and you'll see that it's impossible to save the same time and determine top-16 without increasing of frequency. Just calculate how much time all qualifiers matches is taking right now and then compare.

arctic axle Apr 29, 2020, 8:27 AM

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@chilly terrace I think you might want to change things. In the tournament general screen it displays season coins but in the reward section it is last seasons currency

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chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 8:28 AM

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@chilly terrace I think you might want to change things. In the tournament general screen it displays season coins but in the reward section it is last seasons currency
@arctic axle
For sure, we are working on it. Will be fixed soon.

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@thorn briar This channel is not for recruiting, use #tourneys-team-search for this purpose.

echo wagon Apr 29, 2020, 8:43 AM

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An accent tournsment has 4-5 rounds, in 2 weeks you have 4 of them -> 20/16 bo3 Games
20/16>15
Thats how i calculate

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 8:47 AM

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An accent tournsment has 4-5 rounds, in 2 weeks you have 4 of them -> 20/16 bo3 Games
20/16>15
Thats how i calculate
@echo wagon
But you haven't read again that I wrote before (I asked you to do it for reason). There won't be 16 teams in top-16, if we do 4 tournaments even whether we use ticket system.

echo wagon Apr 29, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Than make top 21 and all play 20 games. And if there is an tournament more, the top clans dont care i think, beacause the will play a training or a qt either.
Or do sth like Last chance after the first two weeks.
What the community is saying: there are options to imorove your System. Another idea: make double elem. (Maby with smaler groups)

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Than make top 21 and all play 20 games. And if there is an tournament more, the top clans dont care i think, beacause the will play a training or a qt either.
Or do sth like Last chance after the first two weeks
@echo wagon
Please, stop. RR doesn't work like that. 21 teams doesn't mean 20 matches. It means 20 matches for one team. And there is not always a chance to play matches in parallel especially in RR.
We calculated much options and the current one is the most balanced in ratio definition best teams/time.
You are right some things could be improved, but these things that you suggest doesn't improve something, rather the opposite

pale finch Apr 29, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Imo it would’ve been better with groups of 16 because there were 1 group in 3 ticketed and 2 in 1 ticketed

gentle sierra Apr 29, 2020, 8:58 AM

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@atomic tartan you could have completely random mm before the top 8 and the best team would still win in the end , the system should be designed so the actual top 8 would go through , the "best" team will win no matter what system is used

glass thunder Apr 29, 2020, 8:59 AM

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or even group of 16 with suiss system like csgo major so we get less games than round robine

azure pecan Apr 29, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Basically we were playing an EU championship every saturdays

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 9:04 AM

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or even group of 16 with suiss system like csgo major so we get less games than round robine
@glass thunder
Unfortunately, due some reasons swiss system can't be used in Blitz. At least for now.

pale finch Apr 29, 2020, 9:06 AM

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How about decreasing the group sizes for future ticketed tournaments? I mean, there will most likely be around the same amount of teams for twister cup competing so groups of 16 would at least make it 2 groups rather than just one constantly

leaden belfry Apr 29, 2020, 9:08 AM

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^ that. Though for RU the current format works for the size, other servers are struggling with the current system, and meeting the same teams over and over. EU would benefit from it, and have slightly less long tournament nights because of it.
For NA and Asia, making it into two groups would be difficult though, as they have even less teams joining in.

silver vapor Apr 29, 2020, 9:11 AM

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I'm all in for better setups if it proves to bring out the better of the teams, at least what I'm seeing in Asia is very nice, probably the most proper competition Asia has had for a while

glass thunder Apr 29, 2020, 9:11 AM

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still this spring we have + 100 teams in ascent and was way better than last twister so more start to care about tournaments
@chilly terrace + why not random seeding btw wr level like if we have 16 we know than the 1 play vs 16
2v15
3vs14
it can be better to be random team from level 1 vs random vs level 2

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 9:11 AM

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How about decreasing the group sizes for future ticketed tournaments? I mean, there will most likely be around the same amount of teams for twister cup competing so groups of 16 would at least make it 2 groups rather than just one constantly
@pale finch
Then we will have more chances to see clans with the same amount of cups in the Hall of Fame after all tournaments. I think that facing of the same teams could be resolved in other way. For example, using random seeding in ticketed tournaments

azure pecan Apr 29, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Same amount of points ? Isnt it why last chance tour is made

pale finch Apr 29, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Random seeding in ticketed would actually be pretty nice, but I think it could be improved with some form of competitive formula. Like basing it on clans past history in competitive gameplay ( the seeding ). Random feels pretty inconsistent but so does the current system, I think a good start to fix things is to add battles and all 10 accounts into consideration when making the average win rate of the teams. I mean personally I would prefer a rating formula as I mentioned but it will be difficult to make

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Same amount of points ? Isnt it why last chance tour is made
@azure pecan
And again: the last chance tournament is the way out from unlikely cases. Usually, there are not tied clans in echelons because of qualifiers design.

azure pecan Apr 29, 2020, 9:19 AM

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At the beggining when you built the 32 teams per group Idea, it wasnt supposed to create only 1 group right? It is supposed to have many groups, like on ru?
So i dont understand why making two groups of 16 on eu is worse than two groups of 32 like it is on ru or how it was supposed to work idk

Edit: Ah ok it makes sens now

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Random seeding in ticketed would actually be pretty nice, but I think it could be improved with some form of competitive formula. Like basing it on clans past history in competitive gameplay ( the seeding ). Random feels pretty inconsistent but so does the current system, I think a good start to fix things is to add battles and all 10 accounts into consideration when making the average win rate of the teams. I mean personally I would prefer a rating formula as I mentioned but it will be difficult to make
@pale finch
I'm afraid that you are trying to find so complicated way to solve it. I understand that you prefer the fairest system in the world, but honestly so complicated things should be used in tournaments where much more competitive teams which are playing on the same level.

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At the beggining when you built the 32 teams per group Idea, it wasnt supposed to create only 1 group right? It is supposed to have many groups, like on ru?
So i dont understand why making two groups of 16 on eu is worse than two groups of 32 like is on ru or how it was supposed to work idk
@azure pecan
No, it's supposed to make as less amount of groups as we can

pale finch Apr 29, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Yeah I understand that and I mentioned that, but I still think that just taking the entire teams win rates and battles counts and making an average win rate out of that would help out with the seeding as well. Although a new formula would be nice

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Yeah I understand that and I mentioned that, but I still think that just taking the entire teams win rates and battles counts and making an average win rate out of that would help out with the seeding as well. Although a new formula would be nice
@pale finch
I can't promise, but someday it may appear. But if I were you I wouldn't expect anything based on tournaments results.

pale finch Apr 29, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Alright, thanks for clear answers

glass tide Apr 29, 2020, 12:13 PM

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No tournaments today or update bug?

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 12:14 PM

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No tournaments today or update bug?
@glass tide It's not a bug. There is not any tournaments today.

glass tide Apr 29, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Ok, thanks a lot for the awnser 😄

silver vapor Apr 29, 2020, 12:32 PM

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oh lol I just realized WG blocked so many boost spots right before professional tournaments lmao

ATGMs? no we won't change anything about it

Meta? hell yeah we change it right before professionals
Boost spots? hell yeah we change it right before professionals

gentle sierra Apr 29, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Less spots to camp at😤

thorn shale Apr 29, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Yep I kinda gotta change some strats now

velvet dome Apr 29, 2020, 12:54 PM

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How was the meta changed though? Isn't it still ht meta?

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 12:54 PM

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I would like apply for professional or challengers tournament live streamer btw? I heard that Asia server lacks streamers so :v
@river turret you should send him friend request

river turret Apr 29, 2020, 12:54 PM

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I did ;-; (he asks for links for previous livestreming so)

chilly terrace Apr 29, 2020, 12:55 PM

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I did ;-;
@river turret Then wait

thorn shale Apr 29, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Yo anyone down to invite me to their team?

silver vapor Apr 29, 2020, 1:07 PM

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@thorn shale #tourneys-team-search

atomic tartan Apr 29, 2020, 3:00 PM

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@gentle sierra and has the best team not been winning under the current format? Do past Grand Final champions not deserve their places? Did they not get there by winning their way through the brackets?

gentle sierra Apr 29, 2020, 3:03 PM

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why bother having a proffesionals tournament then ? Just have random mm from the start and the best team will win in the end , sounds nice

atomic tartan Apr 29, 2020, 3:09 PM

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You said the best team will win in any system. Are they not winning in the current system? Why are you bringing up Quick Tourney MM?

gentle sierra Apr 29, 2020, 3:14 PM

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what i am saying is there should be a way to determine the best 8 teams of the server , which is the point of prof as well as the best team winning (is it not? ) , you are saying the best team will win in the end with this system well ofc the best team will win lul no matter the system , and random mm isnt really qt mm but thats another topic

solid salmon Apr 29, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Best 8 touch team *

pale finch Apr 29, 2020, 3:40 PM

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silent sequoia Apr 29, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Anyone think it would be a good idea for the top pro teams from each server to play against some of the wotb devs in a tournament? I kinda think the idea of pros vs devs

leaden belfry Apr 29, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I think there was a tournament like that being set up, but you have the issue of ping

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They could play RU and EU just fine, but NA and ASIA not so much

vagrant acorn Apr 29, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Will QT return anytime soon or will it only be the spring tournaments and season coin ones?

hardy prairie Apr 29, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I am curious how good the devs are at their own game.

olive olive Apr 30, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Como faço para crescer no world of tanks ?

analog osprey Apr 30, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Only English bro no Portuguese BR here @olive olive

silver vapor Apr 30, 2020, 7:14 AM

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How was the meta changed though? Isn't it still ht meta?
@velvet dome last year twister 215b and foch meta emerged so close to prof, this spring also pretty close to prof that the meta changed to heavy

velvet dome Apr 30, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Ah I understand. While a month may not seem that short but in terms of a year in relation to professional tourneys it's really short

thorn shale Apr 30, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Ok

dense pike Apr 30, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Myhan 582603Jappas

vivid glen Apr 30, 2020, 11:05 AM

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what i read a while ago was that teams in the top and middle echelon can take part in challengers. so i was wondering if a top echelon team can send a 2nd team for challengers. any clarification is appreciated, as we have only received professionals tickets and not challengers

silver vapor Apr 30, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Theres only 8 slots in challengers so apparently not

median mason Apr 30, 2020, 11:08 AM

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I've heard it's even forbidden but @chilly terrace knows the answer

chilly terrace Apr 30, 2020, 11:10 AM

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what i read a while ago was that teams in the top and middle echelon can take part in challengers. so i was wondering if a top echelon team can send a 2nd team for challengers. any clarification is appreciated, as we have only received professionals tickets and not challengers
@vivid glen
I don't know where you find this information. May you think that regulations are the same as Twister season? Top echelon will play in Professional tournament, Middle echelon will play in Challengers tournament. That's it

vivid glen Apr 30, 2020, 11:11 AM

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@vivid glen
I don't know where you find this information. May you think that regulations are the same as Twister season? Top echelon will play in Professional tournament, Middle echelon will play in Challengers tournament. That's it
@chilly terrace i read it on forums. but thanks for the clarification, maybe i got mixed up.

tropic lotus Apr 30, 2020, 1:31 PM

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What do you guys think about getting professionals backgrounds like the background players get in the battle pass?

glass thunder Apr 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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No idea i never check players profile

thorn shale Apr 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Analaşılır konuşun

thorn shale Apr 30, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Hey

tranquil seal Apr 30, 2020, 5:50 PM

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What do you guys think about getting professionals backgrounds like the background players get in the battle pass?

It would be something new

thorn shale Apr 30, 2020, 6:04 PM

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idk

thorn shale Apr 30, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Will the quick tournaments that starts from 6 pm eastern return this year?

fair vale Apr 30, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Yes bro i want play NA

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Somone send me to play tournaments please 😩

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 1:38 AM

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I will post this here since it’s related to tournaments. After update when my team (VE1L) trains in training room for Prof tourney ALL of the team and our opponent have PING and LOSSES issues, can you please solve it? Hapened both Wednesday and yesterday Thursday. But in Randoms and rankeds we all have good ping and loss. @chilly terrace Thanks

mild pilot May 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I need coins

atomic tartan May 1, 2020, 3:58 AM

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@thorn shale get better internet

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Hi

silver vapor May 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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@chilly terrace do you have any status update on Asia server lags? the lag is unbearable and we aren't able to do any training or proper tournaments

cedar parrot May 1, 2020, 7:13 AM

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You experiencing Disconnections after battles and delays too? @silver vapor

silver vapor May 1, 2020, 7:18 AM

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it's probably one of the biggest spike storm I've ever experienced - teammates doing basically nothing but complaining about lag, even I'm getting so much delays - ping would spike up to 700 and tank just won't stop moving. it's utter trash

cedar parrot May 1, 2020, 7:22 AM

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I was in a Platoon with a CATS player. In battle we met another CATS player in platoon with Olaf.
During the Battle Olaf complained about lag.
After the battle, All four of us got disconnected from the game.

It took us well over a min to get back in. If this repeats during Tournaments, half of the teams will be unable to ready up in time.

silver vapor May 1, 2020, 7:28 AM

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this is a lot worse than yesterday, there was spikes but it was nowhere near the level of today

cedar parrot May 1, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Yeah, atleast didn't get Disconnected after every third or so match....

silver vapor May 1, 2020, 7:33 AM

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This was my ping to server, which is 80-120, unlike the 300-700 spikes that I've been getting. this is where I hate wg tbh. whenever there's something wrong, they never say anything until the entire world knows about it already, it's just super slow communication and they never work.

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thorn shale May 1, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Yo

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 7:52 AM

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K

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Hi

sinful plover May 1, 2020, 9:38 AM

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About tournaments, does it mean that groups of teams are full 256/256 ?

chilly peak May 1, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Anyone down to play in a t9-10 tourney tmr?

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Cus

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@thorn shale get better internet
@atomic tartan Wow very funny. First of all you should learn how to read, and try to think a little bit. Its clearly not our internets fault, bcs it hapened to both enemy and my team (2 days in a row AFTER the update) but in randoms/rankeds or any other game the ping/losses are good. Before the update we also trained and everything was correctly. But yeah you should try to be comedian, you are really funny.

pallid raven May 1, 2020, 12:23 PM

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My ping has been better after the update :/

silver vapor May 1, 2020, 12:28 PM

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probably true for EU, definitely not true for Asia tho @pallid raven

neon pond May 1, 2020, 12:43 PM

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gentle sierra May 1, 2020, 12:45 PM

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very tournament related

pale finch May 1, 2020, 12:49 PM

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@spice briar go buy

spice briar May 1, 2020, 12:55 PM

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.

chilly terrace May 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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The limits in Season coins #1 VII-VIII on EU were increased to 512 teams.

chilly terrace May 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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chilly terrace The limits in Season coins #1 VII-VIII on EU were increased to 512 teams.

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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After update when my team (VE1L) trains in training room for Prof tourney ALL of the team and our opponent have PING and LOSSES issues, can you please solve it? Hapened both Wednesday and yesterday Thursday. But in Randoms and rankeds we all have good ping and loss. @chilly terrace Thanks

atomic tartan May 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@thorn shale a comedian is nothing without dummies falling for every line

versed field May 1, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I havent noticed anything in training rooms works as usually

strange lily May 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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@chilly terrace

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@thorn shale a comedian is nothing without dummies falling for every line
@atomic tartan by all this you are showing everyone how smart you are lmao. I just asked something to Rexy because in my team we are facing some difficulties to train (and we really need to train since EUs top 8 is really competitive) and you are basically laughing at all this.

atomic tartan May 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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I’m sorry you’re cutting out can you repeat that?

chilly terrace May 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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After update when my team (VE1L) trains in training room for Prof tourney ALL of the team and our opponent have PING and LOSSES issues, can you please solve it? Hapened both Wednesday and yesterday Thursday. But in Randoms and rankeds we all have good ping and loss. @chilly terrace Thanks
@thorn shale
Why do you think that an issue on our side? There are some additional components between your device and our servers such as provider, route, etc. We didn't notice any troubles which is similar that this one. I'd suggest you to do tracing and check where a problem is occured.

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 3:23 PM

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@thorn shale
Why do you think that an issue on our side? There are some additional components between your device and our servers such as provider, route, etc. We didn't notice any troubles which is similar that this one. I'd suggest you to do tracing and check where a problem is occured.
@chilly terrace As I mentioned before, it only hapends in training rooms, and not only to me, to more people, talking about around 10. And for this 10 people randoms/rankeds works perfectly, is just some issue with training room that started after the update. All our internets work good in everything we do (Playing other games, playing randoms,etc) But in training rooms we get +10% losses all the battle... Before the update this wasnt hapening.

civic glacier May 1, 2020, 3:25 PM

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I think your internet is just bad lol

The servers are fine

chilly terrace May 1, 2020, 3:25 PM

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@chilly terrace As I mentioned before, it only hapends in training rooms, and not only to me, to more people, talking about around 10. And for this 10 people randoms/rankeds works perfectly, is just some issue with training room that started after the update. All our internets work good in everything we do (Playing other games, playing randoms,etc) But in training rooms we get +10% losses all the battle... Before the update this wasnt hapening.
@thorn shale
The server are the same. It doesn't matter where you play random, rating or training. I'd also recommend you to check any firewall/antivirus software restrictions

atomic tartan May 1, 2020, 3:27 PM

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ok on a serious note though if apparently NA is the busted backwater server and we were fine the last few days on it, how are you having problems on EU? good luck with your first world problem, perhaps get better internet before playing again

chilly terrace May 1, 2020, 3:32 PM

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You are telling me that suddenly after the update only training room battles get a lot of loss to +10 players? We are not talking only about 1 persons loss, we are talking about more than 1 team.
@thorn shale
10+ players whose internet traffic could go through the same part of a route. As I said before, please, do tracing and check where the problem is

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 3:33 PM

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@thorn shale
10+ players whose internet traffic could go through the same part of a route. As I said before, please, do tracing and check where the problem is
@chilly terrace Okey thanks for answering

civic glacier May 1, 2020, 3:38 PM

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@thorn shale Get better internet

atomic tartan May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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<@&481447501690568709> language

fast hareBOT May 1, 2020, 3:40 PM

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dynoSuccess GaSeO_JON3S#6898 has been warned.

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 3:40 PM

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If you can't have civil discourse do us a favor and don't post at all.

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As do I. There was definitely and example of both.

atomic tartan May 1, 2020, 3:47 PM

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i am NOT reading that. if you a problem dm me, i may or may not read it depending on rolling odds or even on a cubic dice

civic glacier May 1, 2020, 3:49 PM

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@thorn shale Yo that’s pretty crazy my guy. But I don’t remember asking...

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 3:51 PM

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@thorn shale Stop.

jovial moth May 1, 2020, 3:52 PM

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@thorn shale You literally cursed in that paragraph by saying the full word of “bs”. I don’t know why you’re arguing with Spartacus like you’re right. Also I’m sorry your internet runs on the servers of a tribal village in Zimbabwe. That’s not Rexy’s fault so stop asking him to solve your problems.

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 3:55 PM

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@thorn shale You literally cursed in that paragraph by saying the full word of “bs”. I don’t know why you’re arguing with Spartacus like you’re right. Also I’m sorry your internet runs on the servers of a tribal village in Zimbabwe. That’s not Rexy’s fault so stop asking him to solve your problems.
@jovial moth Another who cant understand is not my problem. We are having this problem all my team, 5th in eu right now. So stop talking without reading what i said on first place. If you have any questions i invite you to dm me, i will be pleased to let you know in detail.

civic glacier May 1, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Just stop responding you’re not going anywhere with these comments @thorn shale

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 3:57 PM

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If you have connection problems I highly recommend you download Pingplotter to trace the source of your issue.
You may have perfect internet at home but there could be a issue between you and Wargaming's server. The majority of the time this is where the issue is at. Actual server issues at WGHQ tend to generate many more player complaints.

atomic tartan May 1, 2020, 3:57 PM

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dude you asked Rexy and you got your answer. would you either get better internet or drop it?

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 3:58 PM

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I think it's time to move past this particular conversation.

chilly hemlock May 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Whos excited for pro season?

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Who are you rooting for this year?

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What tanks do you want to see more of or less of during the games?

arctic axle May 1, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I just have a single question. Why is there a tier 8 tournament for coins? Shouldn't WG be encouraging people to play higher tiers which are more competitive, naming specifically tier 10 where you actually need good communication and tactics, instead of tier 8 which is basically whoever has the better premiums wins.

chilly hemlock May 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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@arctic axle I have thought the same thing for a while now. Same with ratings. Why encourage anything less than the pinnacle of Blitz? Especially if it’s in a tier that is purely pay to win or at least, pay for an advantage

chilly terrace May 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I just have a single question. Why is there a tier 8 tournament for coins? Shouldn't WG be encouraging people to play higher tiers which are more competitive, naming specifically tier 10 where you actually need good communication and tactics, instead of tier 8 which is basically whoever has the better premiums wins.
@arctic axle
Because we don't want to make participation in event hard. There are the same rewards in season coin in both tournaments just for players can choose more comfortable tournament for them.

arctic axle May 1, 2020, 4:46 PM

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There are 60+ wr teams registered in tier 8 just because they want their matches to be easier and to get coins without sweating too much. These 60% absolutely wreck noobish players so the fact that you tell me that it is "more comfortable" for more unskilled players is not true. Tell me this isn't an issue because in my eyes it definitely is.

chilly terrace May 1, 2020, 4:52 PM

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There are 60+ wr teams registered in tier 8 just because they want their matches to be easier and to get coins without sweating too much. These 60% absolutely wreck noobish players so the fact that you tell me that it is "more comfortable" for more unskilled players is not true. Tell me this isn't an issue because in my eyes it definitely is.
@arctic axle
It's more comfortable for tournament players. There is not only tier X in WoTB and in tournaments as well. The high-competive part where all players could participate is over and it's time for tournament for the rest part of players. If we did the same, but removed tier VIII, there would be much less chances to get coins for tournaments players. It's an event which is related to tournaments, it's not a qualifiers to offline. So there is no reason to cut abilites to participate.

obsidian vine May 1, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@arctic axle so ur saying that good teams shouldnt be aloud to play below tier 10 tournys

thorn shale May 1, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Tbh I think I liked last years tours for season coins

arctic axle May 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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@obsidian vine No. I am talking about specifically tournaments in which you can earn event currency like the ones that are today. It just doesn't seem very smart to let people who know how to play the game well be against more in experienced players just so they can get a specific reward easier. Keep in mind that the rewards on tier 8 and tier 10 tourneys are equal but they decide to play against noobs instead of playing with players with similar skillets... for the exact same reward. My proposition is to increase the tier 10 rewards a little, not by a huge amount, as it will lure some team out of t8 in hope of getting a higher reward.

@chilly terrace I understand your point now. You want all players to have a chance for season coins. I get that. But it still doesn't seem logical why the rewards are the exact same when one tournament clearly has higher competition.

obsidian vine May 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Lol I guess

pallid raven May 1, 2020, 6:05 PM

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very tournament related
@gentle sierra technically tier 8 Tournament related. Letting tier 8 player know there is a decent tank for sale.

gentle sierra May 1, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Hm

hasty oar May 1, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Where tournaments eu ?

hot bone May 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Wg, you wanna Kidding us? Same Problem as usual, tournaments are broken. A completly Team can't Restart the game.

hollow birch May 1, 2020, 7:47 PM

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So the tier 8 tourney is filled? There are a boat load of teams that are trying to register. I guess the Tier 10 will be a joke full of teams that couldn't get in the tier 8 one. Either that or the tier 8 will be filled with teams not having enough players because they registered too early.

arctic axle May 1, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@hollow birch well on EU the tier 8 tournament capacity was increased to 512 team so they might do the same for NA

hollow birch May 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I hope so

charred wasp May 1, 2020, 9:52 PM

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@team surgeons

dreamy adder May 1, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@thorn shale Get better internet
@civic glacier get better "jokes"

civic glacier May 1, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Wasn’t a joke lol

glass thunder May 1, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@dreamy adder was good joke tbh

slender flare May 1, 2020, 10:40 PM

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@glass thunder nou

dreamy shore May 1, 2020, 10:59 PM

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So no more tier 6 tournaments?

fickle delta May 2, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Y'all should add in-game notifications for tournament times and registration, and emails within the game.

weary linden May 2, 2020, 1:41 AM

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It was a drag tonight to try to get in tourney hall with the new changes. I got my first two complaints ever before being able to chat with the captain's team. so disapponting. I hope my account wont get suspended. I was on line on time and trying to get in hall and nothing worked. oh and i am as capmuerte, my gamer name is not this one any more.

spiral arch May 2, 2020, 2:04 AM

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So, tonight in round two of the tourney on the first battle my entire team was kicked from the game. Two of us could get right back in but the other five were not so lucky. Second battle the same thing. Of course the reds did not have the same problem. This is beyond frustrating. Fix your buggy game WG!

charred arrow May 2, 2020, 2:06 AM

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lol, we totally disappeared before game got going

mortal scroll May 2, 2020, 2:08 AM

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our team was gone before 9 o'clock

gaunt nymph May 2, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Lol

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I thought the fight was at 9 o'clock

livid galleon May 2, 2020, 4:09 AM

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@chilly terrace Can we have tier 9 tournaments as well?

There is not only tier X in WoTB
I think tier 9 tournaments would be a fantastic addition, tier 8 meta is full of premium tanks that may not be accessible to everyone while tier 9 has less of those tanks. Also, many people find tier 9 to be one of the most balanced tiers.

echo wagon May 2, 2020, 7:33 AM

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There is t10 for competativ and t8 for Premiumtanks and fun. There is no need for t9. If you ad more tournaments, you will have less Teams in the other ones.

slate arch May 2, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Hi

silver vapor May 2, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Why do you think that an issue on our side? There are some additional components between your device and our servers such as provider, route, etc. We didn't notice any troubles which is similar that this one. I'd suggest you to do tracing and check where a problem is occured.
@chilly terrace you're welcome

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gentle sierra May 2, 2020, 12:40 PM

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gEt BeTtEr InTeRnEt , what is that lul @silver vapor

silver vapor May 2, 2020, 12:40 PM

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lmao nice eyes you have there

spiral arch May 2, 2020, 12:54 PM

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@silver vapor all 9 (including the spectators) crashed to the desktop as the battle started. All of us in unison. Five of us could not get logged back into the game before the battle was over.

shadow drum May 2, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Laggy right now in asia server why?

dreamy shore May 2, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Still not seeing tier 6 tournaments listed. Does anyone know if WG will bring those back this coming week?

vagrant acorn May 2, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I gotta ask, why the hell did WG make it 8-10 only friday and now its only tier 6 sunday?

silver vapor May 2, 2020, 6:02 PM

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because Wargaming

covert merlin May 2, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Can a clan play in the challengers tournament without a Middle echelon ticket? My clan is registered,but nobody has a ticket

thorn shale May 2, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Ok

covert merlin May 2, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Actually, there’s a few teams registered that don’t have any tickets. What’s up with that?

thorn shale May 2, 2020, 6:39 PM

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There are no teams registered that don’t have tickets. Send proof that they are in the registered section and they have no tickets. The answer to your question is that no clan not in middle echelon can participate in the challengers tournament.

covert merlin May 2, 2020, 6:47 PM

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2nd picture: top right corner “your team registered “
1st pic: 2/8 teams. Created 71

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atomic tartan May 2, 2020, 6:54 PM

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they can make a team but unless they have tickets they can't actually press the green button and move to the "registered" side. if a team does do that, the blue "your clan registered" will instead be a green "Participate!" banner

covert merlin May 2, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Ok. Thank you. Seems strange that they would have room for 71 clans to register. Why not just have room for 8?

red vapor May 2, 2020, 7:32 PM

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why is there only t6 quick tournaments on sunday

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fast hareBOT May 2, 2020, 8:32 PM

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dynoSuccess fabian,chmielnik#9604 has been warned.

pallid raven May 2, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I think it's because they didn't have a tier 6 Tournament last time

silver vapor May 3, 2020, 9:57 AM

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@lofty vector #tourneys-team-search

thorn shale May 3, 2020, 11:19 AM

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@lofty vector #tourneys-team-search

lofty vector May 3, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Ok,Im'sorry

nimble nebula May 3, 2020, 12:18 PM

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hi

solid bobcat May 3, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Can we have tier 9 tournaments as well?
I think tier 9 tournaments would be a fantastic addition, tier 8 meta is full of premium tanks that may not be accessible to everyone while tier 9 has less of those tanks. Also, many people find tier 9 to be one of the most balanced tiers.

Replace tier8 tourney with tier9... would be great honestly. 9 is much balanced and only has few premiums compare to tier8.
Tier7-8 is the premium belt (which is fine...) idea of having tier9-8 bracket is also good I feel

versed field May 3, 2020, 2:20 PM

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👆

pallid raven May 3, 2020, 4:03 PM

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T92E1 :/

scenic thorn May 3, 2020, 4:09 PM

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banned

thorn shale May 3, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Replace tier8 tourney with tier9... would be great honestly. 9 is much balanced and only has few premiums compare to tier8.
Tier7-8 is the premium belt (which is fine...) idea of having tier9-8 bracket is also good I feel
@solid bobcat Would be nice but only once every few weeks. Buying back t9's for tournaments would be super expensive and playing high tier tourneys is kind of pointless for t9 when you have t10's which are so similar.

median goblet May 3, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Hi, How m flies

hazy ingot May 3, 2020, 4:13 PM

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@solid bobcat Would be nice but only once every few weeks. Buying back t9's for tournaments would be super expensive and playing high tier tourneys is kind of pointless for t9 when you have t10's which are so similar.
@thorn shale this is facts

solid bobcat May 3, 2020, 4:14 PM

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@thorn shale with transitional period of course, I do hate pay to win aspect of mid tiers so tier9, as it stands currently, the only tier with less premiums dominating lineups.
If u observe the balance charts, u will see how consistent tier9 is which makes it fair competition.
Intro it for few times.... ppl might hate it or like it who know. (It’s the same ppl who support atgms)
Tier9 presents the longest Xp grinds in the game and may help most if xp rewards are also given in tourney

azure pecan May 3, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Im pretty sure that if u ask to all t8 tournament players about if they want to keep it like this or create t9 tours instead, they will want to keep t8 tournaments

solid bobcat May 3, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I would be too I wasted my money on building op premium collection @maiden dome8.
Lol
Thing is it’s the only tier that’s high enough and open with most competitive tanks freely available

azure pecan May 3, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@maiden dome 8 opa

thorn shale May 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Cs

proud holly May 3, 2020, 7:35 PM

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ur unbearably childish you know that? @thorn shale

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no u are not, i literally see you say that message in practically every single channel because you have that huge of a desire to complain @thorn shale

red vapor May 3, 2020, 8:10 PM

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wut

wooden pendant May 3, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@thorn shale English only please

Csak angolul kérlek

supple holly May 3, 2020, 11:38 PM

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I’m in Illinois what time is the tier 6 match begin

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Lol it says the time awsome in one hour and seventeen minutes. Question for anyone is it better to go for a tier ten as quickly as possible or better to stack up on tier 8s

hidden kraken May 4, 2020, 12:26 AM

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where do i go foro tourny issues?

leaden belfry May 4, 2020, 6:45 AM

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#tourneys-team-search

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@hidden kraken depends on the issue

hidden kraken May 4, 2020, 6:46 AM

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ah, @crystal maple helped me with it, thank you!!

leaden belfry May 4, 2020, 7:21 AM

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ah good =)

azure pecan May 4, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Hello @chilly terrace, not so useful question but i wonder:
When we participate in the pro tournament or challenger one, do we recieve the avatar of it just some days after registrations ended, or we recieve the avatars after the tournament like for the others rewards ?

chilly terrace May 4, 2020, 9:03 AM

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@chilly terrace you're welcome
@silver vapor
When did you do it and what how did it look like?

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@silver vapor all 9 (including the spectators) crashed to the desktop as the battle started. All of us in unison. Five of us could not get logged back into the game before the battle was over.
@spiral arch Please, share what team did you play in and what's region?

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Hello @chilly terrace, not so useful question but i wonder:
When we participate in the pro tournament or challenger one, do we recieve the avatar of it just some days after registrations ended, or we recieve the avatars after the tournament like for the others rewards ?
@azure pecan
All rewards are given out after the finish of stage. For avatar it's group stage. But may be we'll give out them earlier.

fast hareBOT May 4, 2020, 11:52 AM

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dynoSuccess Danzan1014#6236 has been warned.

clever bane May 4, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Hola

spiral arch May 4, 2020, 12:43 PM

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@chilly terrace I created and played on the team "Deep Pockets". This happened in both our battles in the second round when we played against a team called "Team moos moos". This was in the NA region. Thanks for your help in this.

thorn shale May 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Cześć wszystkim

wooden pendant May 4, 2020, 4:59 PM

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@thorn shale English only please

proszę tylko po angielsku

simple berry May 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Mafia

amber tusk May 4, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Ace gunners is registered

jaunty timber May 4, 2020, 7:04 PM

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someone can inv me in his team for spring season tournaments

red vapor May 4, 2020, 8:13 PM

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wut

analog osprey May 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Ofc bro come

median mason May 4, 2020, 9:55 PM

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#tourneys-team-search 😩

loud yoke May 5, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Guys need players for tournament today, Asia server only 50+ wn, allowed, so message me if interested,

thorn shale May 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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#tourneys-team-search @loud yoke

rapid prawn May 5, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Good morning, if I join a tournament as a reserve, and I don’t log in when it start, do I get penalty?? Pls let me know!! Thanks

chilly terrace May 5, 2020, 7:47 AM

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@rapid prawn Hello!
There is no difference between reserve and main players for the game. You'll get penalty, if your team doesn't have at least 5 players who pressed "ready" at the start of battles.

rapid prawn May 5, 2020, 8:08 AM

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@chilly terrace thank you!! So if my team play but I don’t log-in I don’t get penalty!! Correct!?

chilly terrace May 5, 2020, 8:09 AM

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@rapid prawn Exactly!

cedar parrot May 5, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Ummm is the Spec mode broken again? @chilly terrace

alpine adder May 5, 2020, 11:21 AM

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How the heck are we supposed to play tournament with this lag? Everyone had good ping all day and now all 7 of my team members are lagging. @chilly terrace
Correction: the entire enemy team is lagging too, what the heck just happened to the server?
Imagine this in professionals. Will be amazing.

silver vapor May 5, 2020, 11:28 AM

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We are totally ready for professionals - not sure whether the servers are though 🤔

cedar parrot May 5, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Spec button not available

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silver vapor May 5, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Imagine we can't even train because there's players who can't login

loud oxide May 5, 2020, 11:38 AM

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cedar parrot May 5, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Rip ID

chilly terrace May 5, 2020, 11:46 AM

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The ability to set spectators from the team was removed from all tournaments for an indefinite time.

chilly terrace May 5, 2020, 11:46 AM

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chilly terrace The ability to set spectators from the team was removed from all tournaments for...

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Issue with server is solving

glass thunder May 5, 2020, 12:08 PM

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i can't tournament too

verbal tendon May 5, 2020, 12:09 PM

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wow…

hot acorn May 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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neither do i

alpine adder May 5, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Server lags and can’t log in, cost us the tournaments today, more than half the teams weren’t present at all, HLV, XO, E4D.
Good working wargaming.

thorn shale May 5, 2020, 12:53 PM

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I can’t tournament aswell wtf

tropic lotus May 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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God Bless Blitz

low pewter May 5, 2020, 1:49 PM

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@loud yoke me

fast hareBOT May 5, 2020, 2:09 PM

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dynoSuccess Oオ오Rル르Kカ카A#9294 has been warned.

fast hareBOT May 5, 2020, 4:22 PM

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dynoSuccess MTR×KRACABA(Олег)#7493 has been warned.

rapid prawn May 5, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Sorry, to our team disappeared the registration to the spring season tournament tier VII / VIII ! And it said that is going on! But in the description it say that has to start at 7 p.m. UK time!! And still say this in the description so WHY ARE WE OUT??

fathom tiger May 5, 2020, 5:35 PM

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registration ends an hour before the tourney starts i believe so 19CEST

thorn shale May 5, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Yes the same happened with us, we registered our team yesterday, and now we realized it just dissapeared. And we were definietly registered

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Nice WG 👌 Our clan ERROR - EU server has problem with tournaments....

We have full team on tournament tier 8 and commander click to register tournament, but our team not in the tournament 🙄

EU server 🔥

Why u have problems with this game? 🙄 Please write me 🔥

rapid prawn May 5, 2020, 5:46 PM

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We too!!! Already registered and confirmed!! EU - SERVER TOO! That also FREQUENTLY PING AND LAG!!!

arctic axle May 5, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I demand an explanation for why the battles started 12 second after 8:00 cet. That is twelve full seconds...

limber lintel May 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Why is the spectator mode for Season coins tournaments screwed again

thorn shale May 5, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Hey, I dont have any complaints about Ping or anything (although I loaded in a bit late sometimes but it wasnt an issue), its just very frustrating when spectate doesn't work, pls fix ❤️

azure pecan May 5, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Maybe if you put more hearts they fix it

gentle sierra May 5, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@thorn shale check the pinned messages

thorn shale May 6, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Elo

leaden belfry May 6, 2020, 7:37 AM

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@gray mason English only on this server, sorry. Solo inglés

gray mason May 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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I was not allowed to enter the tournament and my team had already registered it, and a player or I do not know how many penalized me 3 times for absence in battle

leaden belfry May 6, 2020, 7:40 AM

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@gray mason Sorry to hear that. That won't be from any player, btw, that's the system doing it automatically

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@chilly terrace with Professionals starting tomorrow - is there anything known about the tournament/training room lag, people unable to join the tournament rooms or not being able to load into the game at all and being stuck on the loading screen for ages?

chilly terrace May 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Nice WG 👌 Our clan ERROR - EU server has problem with tournaments....

We have full team on tournament tier 8 and commander click to register tournament, but our team not in the tournament 🙄

EU server 🔥

Why u have problems with this game? 🙄 Please write me 🔥
@thorn shale
Just checked. Your captain forgot to confirm your team. He should've pressed green button right after the team cast was final.

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I demand an explanation for why the battles started 12 second after 8:00 cet. That is twelve full seconds...
@arctic axle
I hope you are joking. The battle starts can be shifted a bit because tournament system has to load balance

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@chilly terrace with Professionals starting tomorrow - is there anything known about the tournament/training room lag, people unable to join the tournament rooms or not being able to load into the game at all and being stuck on the loading screen for ages?
@leaden belfry
I heard about this at the first time. Usually, the best way to report about some technical issues is write ticket to the support. I can say only about that things that happened on ASIA yesterday. This issue has been already fixed, there were some data center problems.

silver vapor May 6, 2020, 11:30 AM

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@leaden belfry
I heard about this at the first time. Usually, the best way to report about some technical issues is write ticket to the support. I can say only about that things that happened on ASIA yesterday. This issue has been already fixed, there were some data center problems.
@chilly terrace I've been hearing the same thing though

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chilly terrace May 6, 2020, 11:31 AM

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@chilly terrace I've been hearing the same thing though
@silver vapor
Please, just read the message above.

silver vapor May 6, 2020, 11:35 AM

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The denial is real 😩

leaden belfry May 6, 2020, 12:40 PM

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@loud oxide saw your tweet. Just want you to know that if you type in all caps, your message is autodeleted. If you had written it normally, it'd be there

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loud oxide May 6, 2020, 1:02 PM

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I didn't use bad words, and just complained with all caps.
ok all caps can be problem. I noticed it now.
thanks for information.

tepid sun May 6, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Asia server prof tournament. Tour time and maps in game are not like the news ? @chilly terrace

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silver vapor May 6, 2020, 3:17 PM

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cya Asia in 11AM +8

dim pivot May 6, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Same maps

glass thunder May 6, 2020, 3:25 PM

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good less tactics make just focus on 3 maps all season

frozen schooner May 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

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@silver vapor Maddox, you can see, how WG cares about their players
We have this situation with the challs tourney
4 maps xD

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chilly terrace May 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Asia server prof tournament. Tour time and maps in game are not like the news ? @chilly terrace
Don't worry, will be fixed soon =)

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@silver vapor Maddox, you can see, how WG cares about their players
We have this situation with the challs tourney
4 maps xD
@frozen schooner
How this situation connected to taking care from WG side?

echo wagon May 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Why is Hellas and Normandy in challenger an not in proffesional? A week ago both maps where not in the discription for challenger. Thanks for this

chilly terrace May 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Why is Hellas and Normandy in challenger an not in proffesional? A week ago both maps where not in the discription for challenger. Thanks for this
@echo wagon
Hmmm... They have been in Challengers description since it posted. We removed these maps only from Professionals. You can find the reason on forum. In short, there were some troubles with this map in spectator mode

frozen schooner May 6, 2020, 3:45 PM

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@chilly terrace applaud while standing. check your audit, coz I can't write a single world without your bot deleting them

glass thunder May 6, 2020, 4:53 PM

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challengers good tournament to test new maps

leaden belfry May 6, 2020, 5:58 PM

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@frozen schooner's message; "if you want me to answer, remove this timer and I ll write a full letter about your treatment of the problems
I really enjoy playing 3-12% losses during evening and 2-5 during other hours, you know
Also, I really enjoy that you don't give a single thing about whats going on in the tourneys
Also, ATGMS are sooooooooooo balanced you know
So this "4 maps balance" looks like an april joke, even if it is may 6th"

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it's them oooo's that make the bot hate you, @frozen schooner

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Though I understand your frustration, being snarky isn't going to help anyone

frozen schooner May 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@leaden belfry Dieu, 20 battles in rating, 19 of which is with 4 atgms. 19 out 20. This is so balanced and so treated. WG understand what is going on. They just dont understand. I guess I have reasons to be snarky.

leaden belfry May 6, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I know. You know where I stand regarding the ATGM's. But if someone talked to you the way you're trying to get your message across, would you listen?

frozen schooner May 6, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@leaden belfry Yes I would. If I know that such person HAVE background and he can support his statements. And I have played a lot in a team to work with others anger, if players have plot for it.

glass thunder May 6, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Wotb players problem is they hate things but they still do them ,they hate missiles but many of who did complain about them do play missiles tanks same like crates all say pls remove crates but they keep buy them

upbeat iris May 6, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Who is gonna give up on using something that clearly needs to be used because of such a reason risking the enemy team to use it while u don’t?

pallid raven May 6, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Are things like this allowed? As there are phones which have the built in...

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sacred spade May 6, 2020, 8:48 PM

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my mate just sent me this

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gentle sierra May 6, 2020, 8:54 PM

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imagine going to such an extent , just to play blitz

pallid raven May 6, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Ikr, imagine paying £100+ just for a 2.5% chance at a tank, which gives you no advantages, when a £10 trigger gives you an advantage... @gentle sierra

gentle sierra May 6, 2020, 8:59 PM

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thats why the sheridan is nice , its free u c

pallid raven May 6, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@sacred spade stop posting that here you are hiding my very important question

thorn shale May 6, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Are things like this allowed? As there are phones which have the built in...
@pallid raven that thing is op, it would give awesome advantage i think

pallid raven May 6, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Most gaming phones come with them, so they can't be banned, but they are OP. Guess if you spend money, you gain an advantage... P2W hmmmmm

glass thunder May 6, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Ikr, imagine paying £100+ just for a 2.5% chance at a tank, which gives you no advantages, when a £10 trigger gives you an advantage...
so true still playing on ipad better than on phone with that extension

hardy prairie May 6, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Yes, owning a phone to play the game is pay to win...

thorn shale May 6, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yes, owning a phone to play the game is pay to win...
@hardy prairie hes talking about that thing that comes with some phones

hardy prairie May 6, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I'm aware but the argument stems down to playing on a phone = pay 2 win. I own a phone that I play on... and win on... so I am paying to win.

fathom tiger May 6, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Why do you need an advantage anyway?

glass thunder May 6, 2020, 10:23 PM

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@hardy prairie well using phone to play blitz is pay to lose xd

thorn shale May 6, 2020, 11:08 PM

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I'm aware but the argument stems down to playing on a phone = pay 2 win. I own a phone that I play on... and win on... so I am paying to win.
@hardy prairie the argument stems down that if u pay for the thing u put on the phone is p2w. The thing u put on the phone not the phone. How difficult is it to understand

pale finch May 6, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Might not be tournament related but I can not launch the game. It’s not just me it’s other people as well with iOS devices

pallid raven May 6, 2020, 11:10 PM

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It's Tournament related if you need to launch the game to access the Tournament tab...

pale finch May 6, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Yeah I think it’s down for iOS, just asked around 10 people with iPads and they all have a black screen when trying to launch the game followed by the game crashing

pallid raven May 6, 2020, 11:15 PM

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@hardy prairie yes. Wow you really got me there.... 🤦‍♂️

hardy prairie May 6, 2020, 11:17 PM

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I mean yall expect a serious answer when posing such a silly question. Of course it might not be fair but how do you plan on regulating it?

spice geode May 6, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Great start to profs.

spice briar May 6, 2020, 11:20 PM

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thorn shale May 6, 2020, 11:20 PM

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I mean yall expect a serious answer when posing such a silly question. Of course it might not be fair but how do you plan on regulating it?
@hardy prairie He just posted that bcs he wanted to, he doesnt really expect an answer and tbh i think no one cares if people use that thing

pallid raven May 7, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I mean yall expect a serious answer when posing such a silly question.
Yes it was a very silly question. Lmao And you have a very silly response.
Of course it might not be fair but how do you plan on regulating it?
My question was if they were allowed. Mainly in offline Tournaments. Because if someone were to rock up with them, and find out they aren't allowed to use them, it would suck for them.
@hardy prairie
Idk what your problem is. My assumption is they aren't banned.

loud oxide May 7, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Today, professional tournaments start, but I think the game have a lot of problems. Ex) can't open the game, in game problems.
I hope these problem will be fixed. @chilly terrace

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tropic lotus May 7, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Just to clarify im a little confused, are these commentators going to all be on every server, like 6 on NA, 6 EU for professionals, and just at different times or will droodles who is an na player stream for just na

Also me among others as well have had occasions where when trying to open the app it freezes upon loadup to a black screen and just the little wg logo loading, but that is frozen too, idk if anyone else os experiencing this

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