I’d say the top four clans that made it to the semifinals should all get first place prizing 😏
#tourneys-discussion
tacit quartz
austere spruce
I agree
chilly terrace
@civic glacier The announcement will be next week.
dim pivot
Special tournaments are mentioned in #game-news
Will news abt that come next week as well? @chilly terrace
chilly terrace
@dim pivot news about them come before the start of in-game event.
dim pivot
Any hints?
chilly terrace
@dim pivot It will be tournaments where you can earn season coins.
@vale matrix @fresh acorn @lone solstice @slender moat @austere spruce @lunar forum @tranquil vortex @narrow blaze @opal sail
Semifinals, Finals and Matches for the third place in Off-season stars #14 on NA-server will be replayed 3/25 at 6:00 PM (PT) / 9:00 PM (ET). The updated schedule has already appeared in the game client.
vale matrix
alrighty
tranquil vortex
Thanks
silver vapor
"Registration Closes on Friday"
doesn't give us the tickets needed
🤷
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Could you check you account? All tickets were given out.
silver vapor
Was trying to pay my own ticket but found out it was never there
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Please, remind me your nickname
silver vapor
Maddoxkkm [FEAST]
Asia
chilly terrace
@silver vapor We'll look into it and fix as soon as possible.
silver vapor
👌 It also seems that some of my other clan members also didn't receive the ticket, except a member who has received (since we are at top 8 2 months in a row and he didn't participate in last month's championship, so he has the ticket from last month, I believe) @chilly terrace
rich slate
Has anyone got bug that he can't see members in team? Please reply, thank you
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Tickets have been given out
silver vapor
@chilly terrace just saw them, thanks 🙂
faint scaffoldBOT
marcelo#3547 was muted
woven meadow
@chilly terrace Why are the ascent and I'm assuming professional/challenger tourneys touch only?
faint scaffoldBOT
michael#5564 has been warned.
red patrol
Nitro hax?
cloud goblet
Our games are literally crashing only against them. Anyone else tourney game crashing?
dusk coral
Oh
north kettle
@cloud goblet maybe you deserve it
cloud goblet
Seems a bit presumptive
mellow jetty
Credit compensation?
chilly terrace
@woven meadow
Because Blitz is a mobile game, first of all. That's why all major tournaments (and qualifiers to them) are held in touch.
@lilac hemlock Credit compensation for what? If you mean prizes for the last Ascent tournament, they will be given out soon.
pallid raven
Will there ever be an avatar for the number of tournament battles played? @chilly terrace
chilly terrace
@pallid raven Not in the near future.
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ρєтмαℓυ★#6740 has been warned.
tacit quartz
Can updates be taken into account when tournaments are supposed to happen. Between getting kicked out during the semifinals and not able to finish that tournament the first night and then with the following night making it so we lost 3 of our members due to other priorities this made it so we only had 5 memebers to try and win with. Just something to think about. Thanks
thorn shale
But that is what makes them electrifying, nobody knows what they are doing and at any point of the time you might get unlucky. It reminds me of the whole premise of this game
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DANYGHOST#8816 has been warned.
wooden pendant
@thorn shale please keep the discussion here tournament related
thorn shale
@faint scaffold @The_Dude_30 [CRUEL Deputy]#5734 for me i don't know how to play the tournament you can help me.
wooden pendant
@thorn shale for quick tournaments, when registration opens, you can create a team. You can invite people to your team and people can apply to your team. They start at 9PM EST
The other tournaments are clan only
thorn shale
how to invite the team
wooden pendant
@thorn shale when you create a team there will be an option to invite players
thorn shale
to play the tournament without creating a clan
wooden pendant
@thorn shale you can only play Quick Tournaments without a clan
thorn shale
what time did the quick tournament star
thorn shale
Yo why patch boosts, the strategical possibility b gone
wooden pendant
@thorn shale there will be one tomorrow
thorn shale
Ok thank you...
cursive terrace
I'd like to suggest that tournaments should be broken down to individual tier tournaments . 3 tiers are basically eliminated under the current set up. Tier 5 , 7,and 9. Everyone chooses the higher tiers undr the current format. I think that you would get more play and teams if some of theteams could use those lower tiers 5,7, and 9
arctic axle
No one will play tier 5 tournaments, tier 7 tournaments will be filled with Smashers/Type 62s/Helsings etc. and why play tier 9 when you can play tier 10.
arctic axle
Eeeh, tier 8 has some diversity. You may see an RU, a mod 1, a type 59 and even a cruel twist. You can see different TDs. Only the heavies are dumb - either russian IS-series or Tigers @timber grotto
slate kite
Looking for a clan that does regular Tier 6-8 tournaments. Team play in tournaments is the only thing keeping me playing. So sick of grinding.
thorn shale
#clan-search @slate kite
slate kite
Thx @thorn shale
thorn shale
#tourneys-team-search @thorn shale
atomic tartan
I mean, you can play tier 7s in tier 8 tourneys and still expect to win
arctic axle
@atomic tartan. Tier 8 tournaments are littered with bots. Most of the teams there just play to get the small credit reward
atomic tartan
Tier 8 tourneys are filled with trash players with trash personalities in third rate clans that wouldn’t dare step foot in tier 10 but are soooo eager to smack talk when they win 1 battle where they’re 7 v 6
Humiliating them the next game with tier 7s is only fitting
wraith python
Fix the tournament glitch. 6.9 came still game closing during tournament. Cant relog in anymore.
arctic axle
Personally I think tier 8 and tier 6 tournaments should be once a week so that the playerbase can focus more on tier 10. But I know that if it was made so, most of the teams who try to play in the tournaments would just quit.
wraith python
Fix the tournament glitch. 6.9 came still game closing during tournament. Cant relog in anymore.
chilly terrace
The first stage of Off-Season Stars Championship on NA has been cancelled.
knotty skiff
Why?
chilly terrace
@knotty skiff Because there weren't enough teams for the first stage in this tournament
knotty skiff
Ohhh thanks
thorn shale
@bold plinth what is the problem?
bold plinth
@thorn shale Im stuck here for 5 hours
thorn shale
Hm that is is odd
bold plinth
:/
silver vapor
Lmao, you need 5 players before the game looks for an opponent. There isn't even 5 players that are in the room smh
bold plinth
ik, that's why I'm stuck
silver vapor
Why are you complaining then
bold plinth
because i can't get out
silver vapor
Doesn't look like wg did anything wrong, did they? If only you join proper teams this wouldn't happen
bold plinth
we should be able to quit properly during a tourny, then it wouldn't happen
silver vapor
No. Why would you be allowed to quit when you are in the middle of a tourney? It never works like that lmao
bold plinth
It doesn't make any difference to just refusing to play, but that way I wouldn't be stuck
thorn shale
Oof
Of course they do. I would get a warning and a mute for telling people to learn to play but these guys can call everyone trash and nothing happens.
atomic tartan
@timber grotto lmaoooo i'd really like to know how you came to the conclusion grand finalist + first NA team to get there = third rate team
actually don't answer that. i'm afraid to know
also, name one person i specifically called out with that statement, and that's your answer to why nobody gets muted. the only ones malding are the ones with insecurities who deep down know it applies to them. y i k e s
fathom tiger
”Are filled with trash players” for me means pretty much most of them
atomic tartan
i mean....go look in general lmao you'll find hundreds of "this game is filled with trash players" everywhere. the only difference being i said it in this channel about a specific set of people. the only ones that get mad about it are the ones that know its true about them lmaoooo
fathom tiger
So tier 8 players are trash
atomic tartan
how honest would you like me to be ahahahaha
@timber grotto you finished writing your book over there? you could save yourself the trouble you know
because as much as you seem to believe otherwise I don't actually care what you think.
then why you getting so triggered over something i said that you claim doesn't apply to you?
civic glacier
What’s ur blitz name? @timber grotto
neon thistle
wadu hek
atomic tartan
because if you haven't noticed it's funny and theres 4 people laughing at you right now?
atomic tartan
well, i was talking about certain people in tournaments that you all know about. other dudes just malding cuz for some reason he thinks everythings about him
thorn shale
@timber grotto personal attacks on other server members are ABSOLUTELY not allowed
faint scaffoldBOT
UniqueThoughts#4850 was muted
thorn shale
Back to tournament related convos only
faint scaffoldBOT
UniqueThoughts#4850 was banned
fathom tiger
?
faint scaffoldBOT
Владык#1697 has been warned.
thorn shale
Hello
unkempt falcon
Wot is removing spending gold for ammo, will we see that in blitz?
fathom tiger
There’s already the alternative to buy them with creds so it’s not even such a big deal i suppose
hexed osprey
pastel ravine
Yup. I have a screen recording I can email but the file is too big.
minor sierra
Tournament keeps crashing
wooden pendant
@pastel ravine had trouble with that last night in a clan training room tournament
minor sierra
We were in QT fight against team memers Tonight The game crashed for everyone in my team. WE tried to reload the game but crashed again, the other team did not seem to affect. It only happen to that team. Teams after were fine. Everyone said the Memer hacked the tournament server. Is it possible?
hollow locust
i respect that
faint scaffoldBOT
Warning logged for RevicOfSin[_MAXX]#4068. They were not warned.
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thorn shale
@peak terrace use #tourneys-team-search channel for that.
silver vapor
@chilly terrace do you have a map pool for Spring Ascent / Professional tournaments?
chilly terrace
@silver vapor there will be announcement of professionals tournaments soon, where you can see map pool. Map pool for ascent tournaments will be the same
chilly hemlock
And a spring offline to follow?
atomic tartan
Assuming travel bans lifted and corona calms down, its possible to make your own
silver vapor
corona esports let's go
civic glacier
😷
silver vapor
who needs healthy lungs we playing esports here
peak terrace
@thorn shale Ligma
thorn shale
@civic glacierhello
dry frost
Some stream?
thorn shale
@thorn shale use the #502019319417405441 channel
azure pecan
@chilly terrace in France we just turned on summer hour time this morning, so concerning the finals of the off Season tonight, will it sticks to CET time or gonna be CEST ?
chilly terrace
@azure pecan will be CEST
azure pecan
K ty
stable canyon
English only please @abstract portal
stable canyon
I appreciate the help buddy, but this is an English only server
fossil shell
Ok
stable canyon
Это сервер только на английском языке. Пожалуйста, используйте веб-сайт перевода, если вы хотите опубликовать и прочитать здесь. @abstract portal
chilly terrace
@abstract portal
Если вы продолжите использовать русский язык на этом сервере, то вероятнее всего попадете в бан. Отправил вам в ЛС ссылку на RU сервер.
abstract portal
Play with me please
chilly terrace
This channel is not for searching tournament team. Use #tourneys-team-search for this purpose.
thorn shale
@chilly terrace how about the time for this off season tournament tonight. It was planned for 8 p.m. yesterday but because of our time change (1 hour later) it says 9 p.m. what is the right time now?
thorn shale
Kk thx
azure pecan
u anyways just have to look in how much time games are starting i guess
thorn shale
HI
chilly terrace
@thorn shale time which is shown in the client is always right
thorn shale
Ok
thorn shale
the client is always right, as they say
raven hazel
Well
limpid geyser
@chilly terrace seems like your client is based on a potato
raven hazel
so i should play right now but i didnt got any invite
chilly terrace
@raven hazel because the tournament starts in one hour. The time which is shown in the game client is based on settings of your device, by the way
limpid geyser
Based on our device time? XD
It's server based and just admit that you forgot about the time change 🙂
stable canyon
@steady grove English only please on the server
steady grove
Yes
lone solstice
Two different times. 5pm PST on PC and 6pm PST on Mac and iOS
Different people in my clan are also reporting inconsistent times on their devices. Seems like only PC is displaying tournaments an hour behind.
glass thunder
its so stupid how can a sheridan win a battel vs heavys like is4 in midel of vineyard ( encounter cap position) and make them hide in high level tournaments
what wg need to see to remove this most broken thing in blitz
signal lagoon
@chilly terrace How many teams from each clan may participate in the Professionals tournament? Can one clan be represented by 2 teams in the professionals tournament if the clan qualifies?
glass thunder
in twister was 1
atomic tartan
yea the sheridan was just monkeying the IS-4 through the front as well lmao theres basically nothing he could've done about it
@signal lagoon i can see how wargaming could try enforcing one team per clan but....it just won't pay off in the long run. so i highly doubt they'll make any sort of meaningful restrictions
they say 1 team per clan, a clan makes 2 clans.
they say you'd have to be in the clan for x amount of time before the tourney, players will join before that x
you randomize that x for each tourney, people already have two existing shell clans and it doesn't matter anymore
you can keep going and it still won't change the fact one clan family with 18 players is running 2 full teams of 9
thorn shale
So this upcoming spring tournament will it be 9 or 10 spots?
slender flare
No name
thorn shale
nice selfie
faint scaffoldBOT
орест#6208 has been warned.
thorn shale
@small harbor that will be your only warning
vast vector
How do I get in which section of tournament
faint scaffoldBOT
Zaibachdang81#5465 has been warned.
green plover
@glass thunder yeah but a good portion of the community say that the missiles aren’t big of a deal since 40% pub players miss them so it’s definitely balanced. (I’d guarantee that 95% of them don’t even play tournaments and the other 5% play vs another “bad” team and get eliminated first round)
chilly terrace
@signal lagoon Only one.
glass thunder
@green plover exactly so if you look random the tank will looks balanced but if you play +5 rank or in cws you see that the missiles are broken
silver vapor
@cedar parrot only team captains are able to set spectators
chilly terrace
@cedar parrot It's OK. Spec mode will be disabled until we fix the bug with crashes
cedar parrot
O. okay. no problem.
and it was my captain who said he was unable to put us in as spectator. i know only team captains are able to set spectators. i m reporting in place of my captain because they are already in game.@silver vapor
silver vapor
but you're reporting from the perspective of a player? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
cedar parrot
I don't think i tagged you though.
celest blade
Jdhdj
thorn shale
Again wg? Camo only for top 4? What will be the reward for those players who already have the camo? 20k credits? Lmao
Yeah I’m sure that this rewards will motivate more teams 👍
chilly terrace
@thorn shale
Yes, only top-4.
There won't be any compensation for the camo.
thorn shale
Lmao even worse. We all know that the 90% of the players that get to top 4 already have that camo. And u give no compensation for getting the camo again? Which is not easy to get top 4.
But yeah, every year rewards are worse
glass thunder
@chilly terrace how it can be top 4 in all servers its unfair could be top 4 for asia and na and top 8 for eu and cis could players base is not the same
thorn shale
No man. Top 8 for every server
versed field
Is there legendary clan avatar reward for profesional tourtament winner again?
chilly terrace
@versed field There is not.
civic glacier
There should be a custom camo for the 1st place team, and not the 2018 one again. I mean at least give something unique to the winning team.
It’s not as interesting to play in this tourney since nothing special comes from it. Twister you get to go to an offline and get a special avatar, but spring season now has no unique reward.
Most people who get top 4 already have those two professional camos
azure pecan
@civic glacier well theres a decent cash prize tho, but ofc they should add a camo for first place and design new pro camos each years
recycle lvl100
@chilly terrace is there a reason of why pro camos are given only to top4 now, and also why they give everytime the same because as gaseo and fadoo said its obviously almost everytime the same clans that are in top4 (but not in top8)
i mean what WG are telling to each other before conclude that it is good for everyone to put pro camos only for top4 and everytime the same ones
thorn shale
$3000 for a 10 person team is $300 per person
Hardly life changing
that's only like 60 or so large kebabs
stable canyon
@thorn shale this is not a channel to recruit. Go to #tourneys-team-search
vital obsidian
at least the avatar is not temporar this time 👍
vital obsidian
nice cash rewards there is
chilly terrace
@azure pecan It's additional motivation to reach top-4 for players, who weren't there
thorn shale
wait, which avatar are you talking about @vital obsidian ?
vital obsidian
last year we got a temporary avatatar
thorn shale
oh you mean like that prof avatar?
azure pecan
@chilly terrace well it has the opposite effect as well, lets be honest it just depends on the team u play with, not all teams have the hope or capacities to reach top4
glass thunder
yes specially in eu or cis maybe all top 8 teams are better than best asian team
azure pecan
and teams that have capacity to reach top4 already have pro camos
glass thunder
for na they are good but players base not big so i think top 4 can be ok for eu and cis give camos to top 4 is not enough + same as shapy said
azure pecan
and yes also standard high level of individual and cw teams is not the same on all servers but thats another weakpoint of the profi
i hope they make a poll after profi
glass thunder
well its about about the competitive game i have more problems with sheridan and t22 than the prizes i just dont care about prizes almost all cws players play it because its worth to play vs good players still prizes can be good for the players
azure pecan
well these camo prizes are insanely motivating for everyone, but its getting dismotivating now over seasons and seasons
even for top end competitive players as they already have every prizes proposed to them
chilly terrace
@azure pecan If team doesn't have capacities to reach top-4, they won't receive Professional camo. This are tournament conditions.
Professional camo is just a mark, that you were in top-4 since the previous season. Literarily, the question "why top-4 get camo, not top-8" equal to question "why top-1 gets $3.000, not top-8".
glass thunder
why top 1 in asia get pro camo when top 16 teams in eu or cis can be better
azure pecan
yeah then if a team doesnt have capacity to reach top4 its just like super unmotivating, thats what im saying
uff yes that argument is good as well, but this is counting the weak point that top1 players actually receive the same mark of top4 players (or top8 if it was like that)
if theres a different mark for different places then all problem are solved
chilly terrace
@glass thunder Why are they better? Because you think so?
azure pecan
well except difference of standard competition in each region
glass thunder
from what i see yes
azure pecan
top1 from each region are maybe all crazy good, but we cant say that the 8th team on eu has the same level as the 8th on asia, chineese ru or na region
glass thunder
there is nothing bad from what i said just a servers with bigger players base have more good teams and its in almost all games
stable canyon
why top 1 in asia get pro camo when top 16 teams in eu or cis can be better
@glass thunder because all teams get a camo. They were the best on their server, GG
silver vapor
nice #EUPride
gentle sierra
🍿
azure pecan
@stable canyon yes we know that all teams get camos but the question was why as well
glass thunder
im not saying bad things about asian teams just if you have no competition in server you cant get better
silver vapor
@glass thunder come Asia and provide us some competition then. I'll wait
azure pecan
@silver vapor if it was such easy we would do it
stable canyon
Well, the question has been answered by @chilly terrace now and this will just become a back and forth, yes and no argument if you keep going like this. Top 4 on all servers gets the camo, because that is the decision that was made.
Case closed, move on, thank you 😎 ☕
glass thunder
i cant because of ping so why should i come when asia have lot of humans but few play blitz
silver vapor
@azure pecan there we go we have the answer - if things were only that easy there would be 1 entire league for all 4 servers where the best teams gets camos - but no so that's why top 1 in Asia should still deserve to get camo when top 8 or top 16 in EU or RU maybe not because they aren't the top of their region
azure pecan
i not talking about the top1 as well, i really think the top team from each region are all kinda similarly insane and deserve everything they got, im playing about getting to top8 and 4 on all servers
Dont say me its as much hard to get through a top on all servers
silver vapor
to those who all think Asia or NA has trash competition - I really wish you guys can come Asia to join us in the fights - we would love to be better in this game as much as you all - but lack of competition really hurts us.
glass thunder
well its equal but not faire go to fifa and say you must get 5 teams from asia same from eu africa and America
civic glacier
Honestly all I want is a 1st place camo lmao
silver vapor
but things need to be constructive - not merely saying because top 8 in EU or in RU can easily trash top 1 in Asia or anything like that
thorn shale
@chilly terrace how bad is your logic lol. Its additional motivation to weaker teams, but does that say that big teams that already have the camos lose motivation? It remains the same, big teams (strong ones) will get them again and they will get 0 reward for it, nice. Was better when camo was for top 8, so weaker team can actually sneak into top 8,7 or 6 positions to get it.
glass thunder
@civic glacier xd like 2018 camo is insane
stable canyon
@glass thunder you can keep dragging in here. The question has been answered.
Same goes for @thorn shale
This is not a ooh we want another camo, boooh WG channel. Discussion is fine, but you have gotten your answer whether you like the answer or not
thorn shale
Tbh this rewards are getting worse and worse, u could improve rewards a lot but u just make them shittier
glass thunder
@stable canyon my question was why we still have sheridan with those missiles + t22's in a competitive level that should be faire for all teams
gentle sierra
Online $ reward increased by 1k for the #1 since twister , thats something
stable canyon
Sheridan is available for all teams, so that's as fair as it gets. As for T-22 and other premiums being in tournaments, thats up to WG and the players to decide
thorn shale
yeah but still baron. For that reward only few teams are expecting to get it. And giving a camo doesnt make WG waste money
chilly terrace
@glass thunder Because meta is changed from time to time. And new tanks appear in the game and in tournaments as well.
gentle sierra
I agree , but its a pointless discussion , when did wg listen to the players ? People have been saying the t22 is much better than its tech tree counter parts , and its still allowed in comp @thorn shale
thorn shale
this camoin top 8 will motivate weaker teams, if weaker teams see it in top 4 wheres the motivation?
azure pecan
@silver vapor yes we are not saying top8 eu can beat top1 of another region well not me as well, i have a lot of respect for all t10 players of other regions wether top32 or top1, but just number of good teams depends of the region while the prizes doent follow it
gentle sierra
I disagree about the sheridan being removed though because everyone can have access to it
thorn shale
@gentle sierra thats what im triying to do here, make them listen like at 3.8 update with shitty equipment mode, they listened back then, and fix it.
azure pecan
yes
thorn shale
just make it so collector tanks can't be picked in tournies, gg ez
gentle sierra
Watch how super conq is added just before prof starts
azure pecan
pros
thorn shale
oh, well that must of been a cool message, but I guess the bots didn't like what u said
civic glacier
Some of these arguments are pepega ngl
thorn shale
@thorn shale but still u will see t22s or other op prem/collector tanks on randoms and rankeds driven by a 100 battles guy that is new in game and he spended some money in it and got that tank, and hes doing 300avg dmg each game bcs he doesnt know how game works. Why does new ppl have access to tier X since the start? No sense
stable canyon
just make it so collector tanks can't be picked in tournies, gg ez
IMHO, what @thorn shale said ^^
azure pecan
@thorn shale to get more money
civic glacier
You’re trying to change something that you’ve been dealing with for more than a year now and yet you still play the game consistently
thorn shale
I have no problems with people with money spending it and keeping the servers running
@civic glacier u dont know if we still play this game lol
thorn shale
But tournies is a different kinda thing from ranked and randoms, well I guess you could say ranked is also similar to tournies as it involves prizes so you could argue to remove collectors tanks from that aswell
and ofc i dont play it consistently would be a waste of time. I keep playing cos of tourneys, and im losing motivation cos shit rewards @civic glacier
azure pecan
@civic glacier yes because still the competitive side is insane and cant be found on another game or hardly, but it doesnt mean its perfect
way far from it
thorn shale
i mean.... there's competitiveness in many games
azure pecan
not really
not similar to wotb
civic glacier
@thorn shale So you don’t play blitz consistently, yet you are getting more frustrated than players who do play consistently. This is big brain time
thorn shale
I mean I haven't seen many mobile games but as far as I have seen there's quite a few with competitiveness, even for example take that popular brawlstars game
But I like wotb for the strategical and tactical aspects of CW, so I guess I see your point in that aspect
azure pecan
well first u have to like brawlstars lol, and once again competition on brawl stars is insanely far from wotb one
civic glacier
Sometimes you gotta adapt to what the game gives you. Missles is a different story and most of us want them removed, but nothing can be completely perfect in a game
thorn shale
@civic glacier First u should understand. I JUST play tourneys. And im just saying what i thiink about rewards on tourneys, so yeah. Just talking about the mode i play )) good reading
i mean meta keeps evolving and changing, for me it's always in the bad cuz I don't have tanks unlocked
civic glacier
How far does your team get in spring and twister?
azure pecan
well it is actually really really really far from perfect
glass thunder
thorn shale
@civic glacier twister 2019 i was in r2k top 7 in eu. this spring season in VE1L we want to get top 8 aswell but we were amazed by the shit rewards.
2017 clanwars was the best 👀 7 140s, no need to think ez
glass thunder
sorry for even say what i think about
vital obsidian
Spec in qt need get quick back it is super booooring if 8 on team 😢
glass thunder
my bad i did say my toughs before and nothing change so i just need to stop same as you @azure pecan @thorn shale same think like last twister
cws ( competitive ) players base in blitz is so small so cant change anything in the game like missile remove
thorn shale
Yeah ikr
azure pecan
@glass thunder xddd
green plover
Top 4 is perfectly fine, it pushes people to try their best to fit into the category of “Kings” of their server/region. But in all honesty these prizes are dog 💩. Spending like 2-3 months for what... an avatar and camo that have been recycled almost as many times as plastic? I don’t think it would hurt to release some new exquisite camo’s especially since that’s what will attract more people to play tournaments (for rewards obv). Besides that everything else seems alright.
thorn shale
agree with moe
dry flint
Agreed. I’ve received professional camouflage 4x now and it’s not even special anymore because so many people have it. If WG would make new unique camouflages for top 4 each season it would be cool.
glass thunder
i agree with cant_be
green plover
Receiving 20k credits as compensation for spending 2-3 months beating teams? That’s ludicrous.
If WG were to make a poll for the players to decide if they wanted 20k credits or a rare significant camo I think we all know which one would get the most votes.
dry flint
Facts
thorn shale
And its just a camo but still too much asked, wouldnt even dare ask for a higher gold prize
green plover
They said they don’t want people just farming credits and gold and that’s understandable but this camo thing makes no sense.
thorn shale
give clan avatars for players plox, would be cool 👀
yeah changing camo would be the best idea tbh
atomic tartan
@thorn shale on a little side note, WG got rid of spare parts because the gold spent on timers didn't outweigh the amount of people leaving the game because of them
thorn shale
lul I remember when CW teams all spent gold on timers just to stay on top of their game
silver vapor
I didn't spend gold on timers at all lmao
atomic tartan
on the first day it was 90% discount. thats when comp players fully equipped 1-2 essential tanks and waited out the rest
thorn shale
^ i guess that's what I meant
atomic tartan
the conversion was kinda dumb tho. 3 equipment slots to 9 but they only gave you the first 3 back
but vents rammer and vert stab for coated optics rammer and some defense system? thats like giving you 3 rubles for 3 dollars and calling it an equal exchange
thorn shale
alchemy
atomic tartan
also remember when reload timers for every player on your team under their name came in?
thorn shale
i liked when you could say how many seconds until reload with a command
silver vapor
Lol I figured out I only needed 7 slots at the time
atomic tartan
thats when you found out how badly pubs equip their tanks. you'd have kv-4s with a 107 reloading slower than your T30 right after spawn
thorn shale
👌
silver vapor
And by the time spare parts were about to go I think I had enough to fully equip all my tier 10 fully by then
atomic tartan
no rammer no provisions and not fully trained crew with the top gun. nice meme
versed field
Season, year, based pro camo would be nice
thorn shale
they saving credits
Personally I like the ones that have high saturation, like same as pro blue and orange
vital obsidian
will t22 be in a box for 30k gold tomorrow 🤔 with 5% drop rate
thorn shale
t22 with 0.001% chance 😩
green plover
Nice 5% if you’re lucky it’ll be 2%
thorn shale
i would be happy with 1.5% :
leaden belfry
Tournament season is coming, of course it's time to sell tier X tanks again 👀
But I do hope for better chances
silver vapor
How about just make them not behind paywall
atomic tartan
wasnt it 5% in the T-22 crates for gold
leaden belfry
at the end of the day, WG is a company. There'll always be tanks behind a paywall, unfortunately
shrewd summit
How else would Wargaming come up with the Prize money 🤷♂️
silver vapor
Yes, but failing to make a competitive tier fair and square is what makes this game the most pathetic when it comes to esports since the game had potential to become the pioneer of mobile esports, but wg just butchered the potential and now it's just a nobody's game with no bright future
azure pecan
++
thorn shale
It never had the potential with games like pubg mobile, clash of clans etc. Playerbase is too small for that
gentle sierra
Pff t22 crates , Super conq crates better just before the tourney
thorn shale
🍉 Balon watermelon
gentle sierra
No u
silver vapor
@thorn shale wg had years before pubgm came out and still managed to screw it up, so yeah saying that they butchered the potential of this game is already being kind to them
fossil shell
Is tier 5-6 tourney worth it?
stable canyon
@fossil shell for fun yes. For real competitive play, not so much
glass thunder
How to join. Teams in cws
1- have lot of skills or experience
2-have t22
fossil shell
I never played in a tournament before, maybe is it good for starting?
glass thunder
Well its only good game mode to play random full of bad players who never care about team work but tournaments are all about team work
fossil shell
Ok, thanks
stable canyon
Tier VI is easy to start lots of good tech tree tanks to use and it doesn't cost a lot to equip tanks
Imho, it's a great way to start doing tournaments and see if you like the gameplay style
north mirage
Anybody wanna play tournaments? Got a space for Tier 8 if your up for it
fossil shell
What server @north mirage
winter radish
Hello. My team leader, Krista_Pik have the same interface that the normal players. He can’t add people in spec mode.
Here is a screen he gave me:
stable canyon
This is an English only server @tired epoch ... leave your request to play in a tournament in the #tourneys-team-search channel please
inner helm
Why can't we put spectators in spring season?
stable canyon
@inner helm
azure pecan
Okey thanks sm
glass thunder
newbay have no place in cws that map is everything but not balanced
azure pecan
Like hellas
tall python
nvm apparently you can select new bay now in trs lol.. still doesn’t deserve to be a tie breaker map
glass thunder
map is so bad xd why test it in spring
atomic crater
hello
opal sail
I can't find info on whether if this is touch only-- we missed pramo and rgn on the off season and we're wondering if you guys got rusty lol
thorn shale
I need Team on tournament
knotty skiff
We beat galaxy yesterday
green plover
Literally a couple messages before you someone answered what happened to spectator mode...
shell otter
I’m sry, I looked through past messages, but I can’t find it. Did wargaming remove spectating on purpose? Thanks!
green plover
silver vapor
👓
shell otter
Thx!
gusty cypress
Hi, why is the spring ascent tournament exclusively for the mobile player, whereas the off seasons were for both types of "orders"?
chilly terrace
@gusty cypress Because there were off-season tournaments. They are not so significant as spring Professional tournament.
gusty cypress
Okay thank you
nocturne veldt
Hello Friends, organized in the Hispanic Community a League of Clans 4vs4, you can follow the league on our YouTube Channel, thanks
astral galleon
what maps will be in spring seasons # 2. tier 5/6.
thorn shale
@opal sail off seasons were participation based basically. you had fl-th and cruel making top 8 in march. no one played
also last i heard, pramo/rgn aren’t playing spring
opal sail
Yeah we were able to come from a dead clan to making top 8 in 2 months
plush lagoon
Who can play tournament in Thursaday on tan tier?
stable canyon
@plush lagoon wrong channel. Please use #tourneys-team-search
uncut cypress
who can play tournament later for tier 5 to 6?
restive jetty
hola
thorn shale
who pinged?
@opal sail no one takes off season seriously. try spring and if y’all make top 8 that’ll b a different story
thorn shale
we’ll see
opal sail
Ooh the amount of people who tryhard during off season will surprise you cough RVG cough
hot acorn
Excuse me, is anyone familiar with Map-Choosing system of Spring Season Tournament?
I've heard that on 30th March, the map my friend actually played in the tournament (Yamato Harbor, Faust, etc...) was not the map he was announced.
I'm glad if anyone tells me what was going on or not.
I'm sorry if my bad English skill makes anyone feel bad.
floral python
Does someone know where i can see the map pool for upcoming ascents and pros?
silver vapor
in the details of ascent tournament you can see map pool of it
for pros there's already a posted regulations and maps for each and every game on forums
chilly terrace
@hot acorn Check the tournament description in the game client. There is full list of maps.
silver vapor
@chilly terrace do you have plans to provide the updated colour minimaps for Vineyards? It was updated quite a while ago but there was never a clean minimap (without the spawns), the links on Forums are outdated, missing all the new maps that were introduced lately.
http://forum.wotblitz.asia/index.php?/topic/18519-minimaps-in-high-quality/
thorn shale
I second this ^
@chilly terrace would it be possible to post an updated image of the Vineyards map?
The only one that exists currently is from old vineyards
And since vineyards is used in tournaments it would be very helpful to have the new minimap
🙏
@odd forge #tourneys-team-search
odd forge
@thorn shale yes?
thorn shale
Use the #tourneys-team-search channel for asking people to join your team
odd forge
Yes i do
chilly terrace
@silver vapor @thorn shale I've just modified this topic on all forums.
silver vapor
hmmm the links don't seem to take me anywhere
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Just checked links. Everything is fine.
silver vapor
I clicked on them (vineyards normandy newbay and hellas) and nothing happened
thorn shale
Same for me @chilly terrace
The new links don’t seem to work 😕
This is what shows up when I tap the image
chilly terrace
@thorn shale what's happened when you try to go to link?
green plover
The picture he posted is what happens
thorn shale
It tells me to download the image and then when I download it and tap on the image, that is what shows up @chilly terrace
chilly terrace
@thorn shale quite strange. I'll try to change cloud resource
thorn shale
Ok
Thank you very much for updating though :)
It is very helpful
this is what is looks like when I try and view it from PC
thorn shale
UPDATE: It works now!
blissful cobalt
thorn shale
@jolly bane chat in #off-topic-discussion
velvet dove
How can I go out from competition?
thorn shale
@jolly bane @reef drum @thorn shale English please
tidal eagle
Ascent tournament mode is available for pc and phone users both, right? Or we need to play using phone only?
dim pivot
Touch only
leaden belfry
@dim pivot FYI - just handed in my links. Will stream all of EU's Ascent tournaments, and Asia and NA on Saturday =)
dim pivot
noice
tranquil river
invite peweee to the tournament
spare eagle
Invite tourney tier 8
agile flare
Is spectator back for quick tournaments? TY in advance. @chilly terrace
faint scaffoldBOT
matimiszcz#2270 has been warned.
waxen pendant
Hi
rich ermine
hello
vital obsidian
@leaden belfry nice 👍
silver vapor
hmm the links broke again somehow @chilly terrace
chilly terrace
@agile flare Hello! No, it isn't. Spectator mode will be disabled at least for several weeks
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Fixed
silver vapor
👍
vital obsidian
ascent without spectators 👀
primal girder
Hi
pale finch
I prefer it that way - without spectators
thorn shale
why is the spring ascent tournament is just allowed to mobile? i'm on pc i can't join a team
The game is marketed and was intended for mobile
@floral python
pallid raven
Really going to enjoy playing in the Tournament tonight... Oh wait... It's touch only... Guess wargaming didn't want the pc players to have something to do while couped up in their homes.
thorn shale
Do world of tanks PC not have any event?
pallid raven
@thorn shale you do realise, the reason the majority of pc blitz players exist, is because their pcs aren't capable of running WOT
fathom tiger
Major tournaments and qualifyiers to them are touch only
chilly terrace
@pallid raven You can play in quick tournaments. We are not going to change the rule about only touch players in major tournaments.
pallid raven
@chilly terrace is there a quick tournament today?
fathom tiger
Why do you need an amulator when you can simply just play touch anyway?
chilly terrace
@pallid raven Unfortunately, we can't make schedule in this way that will be comfortable for all players.
atomic tartan
I mean, Blitz has been designed as a mobile game. PC availability is more of a convenience feature
vital obsidian
feel bad for pc players 2 months without proper tours 😢 but now is good time to learn tc
silver vapor
the same thing already happened last few times already - main season is always touch only so I don't see why only now people are making it an issue now - when it has been the same for so many seasons and so many chances for people to get their gameplay on touch./
thorn shale
if your goal is to play big tournies you should have the resolve to learn touch instead of hoping it be changed
@pallid raven I did not. I thought world of tanks was available as soon as low-mid range PC. I played on world of tanks PC the last time about three years ago, it ran just fine on a laptop (not gaming of course) that was then 1 year old
Didn't know the requirements have been upped
pallid raven
With out the pc players, blitz probably would not be where it is today.
thorn shale
Ironic
@pallid raven that’s very false lol
And I cannot understand all the whining and crying about not being able to play Major tournaments on PC
It’s very clear that blitz is a mobile game and is designed around mobile gameplay
That’s it’s niche
pallid raven
It's also clear that blitz is a cross platform game, which was done, because the overall market for a mobile tank game was small, but including pc players increased the target audience.
thorn shale
Putting PC players in a tournament with touch players would be an inherent advantage towards PC players because aiming with a mouse and overall gameplay on KBM is easier than touch
pallid raven
Tbh I was never arguing that pc should be allowed in this tournament, I was arguing that there should be a quick Tournament running for the countless number of pc teams.
opaque kite
Looked like that stoped the touch player from crying @pallid raven
atomic tartan
Tbh I was never arguing that pc should be allowed in this tournament, I was arguing that there should be a quick Tournament running for the countless number of pc teams.
@pallid raven then what were you on about?
pallid raven
Talking about an alternate quick Tournament
atomic tartan
This is not a quick tournament
civic glacier
It’s an ascent tonight and you clearly knew that.
pallid raven
Ik, an ascent Tournament and a quick Tournament, like they have done before
atomic tartan
They literally put ascent tourneys on different days from quick tourneys just so you wouldnt have to pick between either
faint scaffoldBOT
Ting_YG/W1B/ESA/LGN/SW4RM/UNKWN#2975 has been warned.
atomic tartan
@opaque kite what if I told you that same touch player could also stop strangers from talking?
thorn shale
@pallid raven DM me
green plover
“With out the pc players, blitz probably would not be where it is today.”
That’s a lot of bull💩
civic glacier
brings desktop to Minsk
silver vapor
I brought my laptop to Minsk both times so I can't see why not
green plover
Congratulations you and your 2 friends paid £50 on blitz, you know there’s thousands of touch players spending thousands?
pallid raven
😂
thorn shale
this is more of a conversation for #general-blitz-discussion or even #secret-chat
If you want to talk about which platform has more of an impact on the game
civic glacier
If there is no qt the day of ascents, then just watch the ascent livestreams since you wanted to kill time with the virus going around
pallid raven
That's what I will have to do. #rollling2minsk2021
thorn shale
#rolling2minsk2021
vital obsidian
can i get coins from watching ascent
leaden belfry
@thorn shale @pallid raven not so negative. I do think in November things will be back to relatively normal. #rolling2minsk2020
@vital obsidian not that I'm aware of
green plover
Think coins are just for prof @vital obsidian
leaden belfry
and I'm pretty sure they'd have told me if we'd give stuff with our streams
thorn shale
oh right it's 2020 not 2021, I was coerced into wrong #
distant tusk
Hello, Good luck For spring season tournaments!! I'll try to stream the tournaments. #StayHome Stay safe, play blitz all day long don't go out.
👍 👍
latent olive
Well offered to stream, but alas no one got back to me 😦
thorn shale
rip
leaden belfry
I'll hunt them down for you tomorrow, @latent olive =)
they'll be out of office now
but it'd be great to have more streamers on board. We've some amazing teams out there, and Brian and I can't cover them all
thorn shale
I get to do my first tier 10 tourney today :)
To all you pro clans on NA gl hf and it is an honor to fight you
[-MM] Magellan
[SURG3] Resurgence
[RGN] God Bless Blitz
[ACHOO] rAtlas
[PNCR] Insurgence
[HATED] Interstellar
[PRAMO] Oath of Speed
[PURPL] ICON
[-RGN-] Also Reign
[_STR8] AIM TRUE
[V] _V_irgins:
exists
🤔
How does that relate? I was just saying gl hf. I'm not threatening them
tidal eagle
Me and my team is new in this and today we did our first game in spring ascent tournament. We all got some cups. But I am ignorant about the use of the cups. Are they for decoration or will we have some use of them? If anyone can help me understand this, it would be great.
latent olive
@leaden belfry thanks my friend, like I said I did put myself forward before this nastiness virus began and I completely understand if WG are working a reduced workforce ofc so not really moaning etc, just saying I put myself forward 🙂 would love to stream the event!
quiet ferry
Hated is playing Ascent tournament?
deft sandal
Hey Devs. Can you fix spectator mode in tournaments?
viral osprey
@deft sandal think spec is off for a reason.
faint scaffoldBOT
godrock1412#0061 was banned
leaden belfry
<@!619643902554669064> Hello! No, it isn't. Spectator mode will be disabled at l...
For those wondering about spectator mode in the ascent tournaments:
signal lagoon
@tidal eagle A clan's total cups is used to determine their position on the spring season leaderboard here: https://wotblitz.asia/en/clans-leaderboard/#/leagues/0
The 8 clans with the most cups at the end of the spring season move on to the professionals tournament, and the clans that place 9-16 will move on to the challengers tournament.
You can read more here: https://wotblitz.asia/en/news/tournaments/2020-spring-season-pro-tournaments/
leaden belfry
Leaderboards for cups, top 8 will go to the Professionals, top 9-16 will go to the Challengers Tournament
EU: https://wotblitz.eu/en/clans-leaderboard/#/leagues/0
NA: https://wotblitz.com/en/clans-leaderboard/#/leagues/0
ASIA: https://wotblitz.asia/en/clans-leaderboard/#/leagues/0
RU: https://wotblitz.ru/en/clans-leaderboard/#/leagues/0
@signal lagoon good thinking, and thanks for that link, I'll add it to the pinned stuff =)
tidal eagle
Thank you, @signal lagoon @leaden belfry
bronze bone
@pearl crown
thorn shale
Damn you can really see the difference in amount of teams
abstract junco
Find a tournament
azure pecan
Lol yes, 144 teams on eu so 9 groups full filled
On na 5 groups asia 3 groups meanwhile 28 groups or so on ru how is it even possible lol
silver vapor
not really my/our fault for Asia being dead rite
vital obsidian
what happend to the chinese tour scene
silver vapor
I'm not even following it - it's probably as big as how Asia is
brazen fiber
Hi all
thorn shale
does china even have spring season
I know they have twister and I followed that, and saw like a gazillion clans get disqualified, was very entertaining
REGHE11C
V-VI
severe oar
@thorn shale why did you cross hated out?. @atomic tartan hated got to the finals and lost to pramo 1:2
atomic tartan
Didnt they beat STR8 lmao
thorn shale
@thin ice chat in #off-topic-discussion
thorn shale
Do all the tournaments start at 6 PM Pacific, 9 PM Eastern? Are there any tourneys that start at other times? I'm usually not on at those times and it's kinda sad because i can't participate in any tournys
leaden belfry
@thorn shale the time for each server is set and generally doesn't fluctuate. That's for the ascent and professional tournaments though. Other tournaments throughout the year happen at different times too. Just watch the in game tournament tab to keep track =)
silver vapor
nice seeding
oak veldt
Wdym
silver vapor
imagine the top 2 from last twister both gets placed down in favour for more wr teams
oak veldt
I mean idm cos we bad but isnt feast like 65% or smth now lol wat
dim pivot
Top 7 wr counts for seeding unfortunately
silver vapor
that should not be the case, tour experience = your actual ability in tour, not wr
thorn shale
Pfff
How would that even work? Team with highest average tournament battles?
Could be tilted massively towards people who spam QTs
IMO seeding by highest team average damage would be a slightly fairer metric as winrate can be gotten much easier at lower tiers, but not high damage, and these tournaments are all tier 10 only. Of course like everything, teams could have some rerolls, but rerolls have their drawbacks too (i.e. smaller tank selection)
vital obsidian
is asia streamed?
silver vapor
the amount of tournament related achievements - e.g. the amount of times one has entered professionals, the off-season participation medals, and even cups one has farmed so far @thorn shale
thorn shale
Meh
Won’t happen
Would favor old players heavily
Discourage new players to extent
silver vapor
imo better than encouraging rerolling
thorn shale
And tbh if this is all stems because you’re complaining about not being top seeded on asia, it seems a bit silly. If you have aspirations to win spring season it won’t matter what your seeding is because you’ll have to beat everyone at some point anyway
silver vapor
it's actually the other way around - I hate to see teams that keep getting free cups just because they have higher wr but keeps getting trashed all the time
thorn shale
Then just get higher win rates 😂
It’s not the other teams’ fault they have higher win rates
silver vapor
not if they've been caught rigging in the past but still live and kicking ¯_(ツ)_/¯
dim pivot
^^ so true
oak veldt
Well yes tat i agree
faint scaffoldBOT
орст#9399 has been warned.
thorn shale
@vast vector use the #tourneys-team-search channel for such messages
mossy garnet
Hi
dim pivot
Can top 8 or even the top 4 in spring get a tank as a reward? Like ratings is getting this season
it is a tank game
silver vapor
yes give this man a T-22
dim pivot
Yea yea ok, i meant like a tier 8
oak veldt
ye vk168 will be nice
dim pivot
Idk what tank dat is
oak veldt
the reverse mauschen
pallid raven
Should be super conq
dim pivot
Is it a tier 8? I've lost count on how many tier 8 prems there r
Right the reverse mauschen
@pallid raven pfft how abt t22+ super conq
pallid raven
Nah t-22, super conq and Obj 279
And type 59g
@silver vapor on blitzstars is it possible to see who has the most Tournament battles?
silver vapor
I don't think so
brazen fiber
Hi
thorn shale
who knows what's gonna happen to s. conq, it might get uber nerfed i'd just want a t22
limber lintel
Wargaming i have a question
i can not put people on spectator mode as tournament captain and it is very annoying
since it means that people just have to sit in the queue while just doing nothing
is this getting fixed any time soon
arctic axle
WG disabled spectators to fix some bugs and crashes
limber lintel
bruh
thorn shale
guys when emulator ban
vast vector
May I joining anyone of your team texts me
azure pecan
Emulators
thorn shale
@thorn shale technically they are already banned under the EULA
12.1.10 using any unauthorized third party programs, including hacks, cheats, scripts, bots, trainers and automation programs that interact with the Resources in any way, for any purpose, including any unauthorized third party programs that intercept, emulate, or redirect any communication between the software and Wargaming and any unauthorized third party programs that collect information about the Game by reading areas of memory used by the software to store information;
😧 😮 😩
I hope anyone caught using them catches a permanent vacation from the game
silk otter
@vast vector
vast vector
I don't have a team do y?
thorn shale
@thorn shale ye but for years people are using emulator for prof and nothing happens xd
Yeah I know.
It's a shame
so its free real estate boys
odd wolf
@thorn shale what’s emulator?
thorn shale
@odd wolf an emulator in this case would allow you to play wot blitz on pc
odd wolf
Ah. Thx
thorn shale
it makes the pc thinks its a mobile device and ppl can play pros this way, which is prohibited
vital obsidian
how can it be checked ?
thorn shale
how can what be checked
vital obsidian
if emulators are used
sour breach
well
each device has an identifier
emulators usually have a weird one,
they also usually dont have the things a normal mobile phone would have and
you know what im not going down the list
just know that they know
thorn shale
^ basically
vital obsidian
who know?
sour breach
dont cheat on the tournies
thats it
just play on a phone
past siren
Can I watch the event
low badger
Perhaps we can have randomized brackets for ascents on sat?
knotty skiff
Oh who is RGN playing
low badger
I think rgn is playing pncr? (no idea) we faced pramo
severe oar
What happened? Rgn starting out rough. Guess first tourney so they are still getting it together. Can’t believe insurgence beat them
thorn shale
🤔
thorn shale
🤠
lament urchin
Hey, why am I as tournament captain unable to put players into spectator mode? Last 2 tournaments I've led this season I was unable to change my bench sitters into spectator mode.
silver vapor
@lament urchin please read pinned messages. this message has been asked so many times in the past week
lament urchin
Okay thank you
thorn shale
Jest tu ktoś z Polski...? 😪
faint scaffoldBOT
いっjm#2857 has been warned.
faint scaffoldBOT
alessandro#7141 has been warned.
thorn shale
Pls
pallid raven
Rip Pantouflee
glass thunder
what happened to him?
thorn shale
@thorn shale in English.
thorn shale
Ruso
thorn shale
Care se baga la un Turnament de wot
proud holly
@stable canyon Hey can you clean this up^ Thanks
faint scaffoldBOT
1Arbyz#6451 has been warned.
thorn shale
@grim flower @low hawk English please
faint scaffoldBOT
Maikon Sousa#0872 has been warned.
elder sinew
oh
proud holly
Of course it's the crying anime boy who's trying to edge himself with potty words
UwU
low badger
I can respect that not gonna lie
thorn shale
👍
shrewd adder
@sour breach plz joine me
stable canyon
@languid frost English only please
pearl sigil
lol@stable canyon
azure pecan
Is there any chance that the Sheridan got a nerf one day?
obsidian vine
Nope it’s getting buffed next update
glass thunder
adding missiles is biggest mistake wg did , playing rank or random vs those tanks is not funny , wg just did ruin the game for 3 months when i was clear that any kind of unfair advantage is really bad for the game
gentle sierra
Everyone has access to them so its not a problem
thorn shale
i feel like missiles could add a new element to CW where you can't simply take super strong positions and hold forever
azure pecan
i think sheridan is not a big big problem in CWs once its a tech tree tank and its hard to handle as f
the problem is that once again sheridan is 1000times easier to use on pc than on touch (rockets i mean)
it is too overpowered without rockets:
-the accuracy is so damn insane for a +150mm carried on the fatest t10 tank and with an insane velocity
-the armor is too troll overall and u almost cant pen it with HE meanwhile its a light
silver vapor
I'm still having mixed feelings about sheridan and it's missiles - it's just too mobile - it's ability to turn is just way too insane....
azure pecan
no its a light tho
silver vapor
I mean the missiles' turning ability
azure pecan
ahh
silver vapor
you should never be able to shoot up the other way and look at the target and somehow the missile finds a path towards the target from above
azure pecan
in my opinion its good, only problems are difference between pc and tc, and the fact that the tank itself without missiles is already overpowered
also now we defffffffffinitely need to have 100% edit capacity on lockout area on touch
with sheridan on touch u now must be able to aim in the lockout area as good as without it, so the lockout area needs to be insanely upgraded (be able to change the pixels in height ect i mean just 100% free edit, and also be able to activate it or no with a button in the battle like the for auto aim)
sweet flax
Yes let us changes the lookout area for one tank and it's totally balanced missile
azure pecan
and if the game was perfect we should also be able to change camera sensibility only for sheridan but it will never happen as well, just lockout area upgrade seems not hard to implement and is infinitely needed
glass thunder
@gentle sierra sure so why not buff the maus more give it 640 alpha 50 top speed and each minute the tank can get 1000 hp back it will not be bad for game cause all can play it
same logic when you say tank is bad and someone say don't play it xd
gentle sierra
If thats what you understood im sorry for you 🙂
dense pike
@dense pike
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meager isle
Kek
dense pike
@meager isle
meager isle
Yes
pale finch
Sheridan is bad, removes a lot of the hulldown purposes of this game which many tanks are basically built for makes it harder to utilize your turret if you can just get shot from the sky with 500 damage
thorn shale
I mean the problem of sheridan being easier to use on PC shouldn't be a big problem for tournies because PC can't be used in big tournies, right guys?
glass thunder
who said its hard to use in tc?
hollow bolt
Whether something is easy to use or not generally make much of a difference in big tournaments... @thorn shale
pale finch
Lol what, there are extremely good Sheridan players on touch, and I don’t think you should be able to reverse up against a wall put your gun in the air and then rocket someone
azure pecan
@glass thunder it is hard to learn on touch, ofc there are Sheridan beasts on touch
But it requires a skill hard to learn, meanwhile on pc u can play 2 games in it and handle rockets really rightly
@thorn shale it’s a problem because there are only 2 tournaments a year that are only on touch, rest are opened for everyone
abstract stirrup
Curious why “spectator” capability was removed for Spring Season tournaments?
silver vapor
@abstract stirrup read pinned messages
abstract stirrup
@silver vapor Thanks.
severe oar
They wont nerf it now. SPring Season has begun
quartz crater
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simple knoll
How long before Spectstor mode is fixed?
frail rampart
Where can I find the tournament being streamed? @shrewd summit
thorn shale
Keep this channel on topic
covert merlin
@azure pecan what’s the trick to using missiles on PC?
frail rampart
So there’s no tournament stream?
azure pecan
There s no trick, it is just 1000times easier to handle rockets on pc than on touch, on pc the screen is bigger so u have a wider field of view, u can aim with locking ur turret as good as without locking the turret, the aim itself is really easier because the precision of a mouse is insane compared to your finger
glass thunder
with apa players aim and walls hack yes missiles are op on pc
well is emulator but you can call it pc
thorn shale
@frail rampart on saturdays for the ascent ticket tournaments
low sorrel
there is a argument to run an emulator when using sheridan, you would get the touch auto tracking plus the usability of a mouse.
silver vapor
....
I'd love to know which emulator can do this
analog osprey
Wtf they have against apa just play
thorn shale
@sharp blaze @deep hawk @hot latch English only
azure pecan
All emulators can run wotb, then its up to u to change files like on steam
@analog osprey didnt u saw apa Ernest vids ? Lol
sleek basin
I hope these mass crash sessions don’t happen during spring pro tourneys/ ascents LOL 6 of em crash at once xd, its happend 3 times in a row, we make new rooms every time still crashes, dont know if its just us
whole wigeon
What do tier 10 tourneys look like right now after the recent HP buffs?? A couple clan mates and I are looking to join a tourney tonight but if the battles are going to be full of Maus, then I’d rather not bother.
thorn shale
there's not to many mauses atleast from top teams, as for randies no idea
robust sun
👍
whole wigeon
I was just curious, because I think it would be off putting to fight through 9k of Hit Points for a full 7 minutes.. 😅
nova tundra
Ok
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leaden belfry
@whole wigeon #tourneys-team-search
whole wigeon
👍
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glass thunder
why not the mm of tournaments like spring season start with wr in first week after become with team cups cause as many knows wr is not all a 66wr team can beat 72 wr team and from 72 team wr to 66 we have 23 teams on eu so better start making teams draw with rank and not wr cause last tournament 2sd and 3rd teams were in semi final of non ticket tournament and many teams just because of having wr they keep getting ez groupes
as we saw also w1n in same group with raid ( top 4 teams from last twister ) and some groupes have totally avg teams
pure lava
🤔
hazy ingot
Better explanation : In the earlier rounds of spring season teams should be picked by wr but in the later rounds they should be picked by cups, because of so many teams getting easy groups
pure lava
OR maybe..complete radom groups in earlier stages
gentle sierra
What can go wrong
patent owl
Tonight I'm trying to do a tournament with some of my friends, are there any restrictions on tanks like the crew has to be fully trained
weary glade
@hazy ingotehh...
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silver vapor
for 2 weeks in a row - either Rolling's or Amaunet's stream have to end early for Asia server - shows how bad the seeding is
dense garnet
Sorry Wargaming i have a problem
pallid raven
@lime glen when do we get our rewards for rbc_February?
brazen fiber
💯
thorn shale
@silver vapor how is it the seedings fault if your team doesn’t make the finals? I’m confused..
leaden belfry
He means that we shouldn't be attached to teams meeting each other so early
but that's an Ascent problem, as WG can't attach us to brackets yet, as those are only made right before the tournament
For EU today, assuming our teams keep winning, we won't meet until the semi finals, so we'll both have full streams then
NA we won't know until 2am our time 😂
thorn shale
@leaden belfry I understand what he’s saying
He’s complaining about getting matched against “stronger” teams early on
But my point still stands
How is any of that WGs problem
His team is the one that’s apparently low enough in winrate that they keep getting bad seeding
leaden belfry
No, that's not what he's saying. He's talking about us streamers, not about his own MM
thorn shale
And then if they lose to a one of the stronger winrate teams, WGs system is exonerated
leaden belfry
if WG attached us to strong teams on opposite sides of the brackets, neither of our streams would end early
in this case in Asia, Brian's and my first matchup was basically against each other
leaden belfry
that's what Maddox was talking about =)
thorn shale
But he’s also complaining about the seeding
He literally says “show how bad the seeding is”
leaden belfry
he wasn't faulting the MM - merely streamer-MM so to speak
with the amount of teams having tickets in Asia, this should easily be avoidable
will get back to you later, EU stream starting 😬
thorn shale
Read his earlier comments about Asia server seeding
I’ve discussed it with him previously here
He doesn’t like the winrate based seeding
And his post today seems to be a continuation of a running complaint
atomic tartan
how exactly is a stream ending early blamed on bad seeding?
glass thunder
same maps lmao
covert merlin
What maps are used for tournaments? I know it’s posted somewhere, but I can’t find the link.
glass thunder
all maps even new maps like hellas and new bay
thorn shale
pure lava
ecsdeee map rotations
covert merlin
@thorn shale Thanks mate!
glossy vortex
@DarkAngel007#0168
knotty skiff
What
leaden belfry
@jolly bane English only on this server, please =)
signal lagoon
Ngl, the format of single elimination AND best of 3 is super toxic
It should at least be double elimination so that seeding isn't so important
leaden belfry
it's not even Professionals yet
it's basically four weeks of qualification for the Professionals
with 8 tournaments
Professionals have a different format - and round robin at that
imo, if you make the qualifications even longer and more profound, you might as well forego the whole Professionals (I don't want that, mind. Just meaning that as far as qualifications go, I feel this is more than ample a time and format to qualify)
pale finch
I still don’t like the format, I’d be in for double elimination or bo5 even though it would be more time consuming.
obsidian vine
I’m sure your asleep by now, but just want to say thanks again for streaming NA tonight! 😅 was a little rough at the start but got better as we went on. @leaden belfry 👍
pure lava
Yeah bo5 sounds gud
glass thunder
the format was bad from like 3 years and wg could make it better they still think wr seeding is good but on eu teams start to use rerolls like how can be 1 battel 100 % wr account make a team wr jump so high just because 1battel 100% wr have same weight like 100k battel 100% wr its so stupid
if you have 4 players with 50k battels and 50% wr and 3 with 100% wr each 1 battel
team wr will be (50 + 50 + 50 +50 +50 + 100 +100+100)/7
with newbie mm gg reroll get ez mm and good teams get to play in 1/32 or 1/16 rounds when others get ez teams
leaden belfry
@glass thunder that's not true. One high winrate account has little impact on the overall winrate, as all battles and all winrates count. So one account with one battle won't do anything when it comes to the seeding.
@obsidian vine I was a tad bit worried after that first battle, I'll admit 😂 but glad you guys found your form straight after and became the Pncr I know again =) was a pleasure to stream you guys ❤️
glass thunder
@leaden belfry well its true dont look blitz game wr look the website team wr that count best 7 players on wr only
and system don't count the number of battels just players wr @chilly terrace @frosty nexus can confirm cause i didn't find ascent tournaments in website history
@leaden belfry sorry for posting teams name but this how system work you can test it by your self count teams wr without numbers of battels
leaden belfry
No worries, you're not naming and shaming here, you're raising a concern
I'm currently still dead, but I'll do some calculations in a bit, if that's okay =)
glass thunder
and teams like FBI and w1n have 66 wr team always get hard teams cause they are 17th 18th on wr but they both have top 8 teams level
manic pewter
Well doesnt matter really. Any opponent that comes against is winnable and only the best one will be at top. Its not optimal to teams that skill level isnt enough to win whole tournament but you gotta win everyone to achieve that.
alpine adder
@chilly terrace
The server kicked us and the clan CALM out of the tournament. We were able to start again but their team can’t start again, regardless, we were kicked from the tour.
steady radish
Let me not fair
forest matrix
@glass thunder ahah so funny to see that this stupid seeding system is already rigged by some teams. I raised the same point last twister and all I got from the CW staff was that I was raging over our elimination 😄 They just don’t care bro!
@manic pewter what you say is true. Still... see yesterday you played LGN is second round - I see it as a pity that you both are faced that early in the tournament while some average teams keep getting cups leveraging on a rigged seeding. We will never get perfect seeding until we have a continuous clan ranking (like ATP ranking in tennis).
At the very least I would expect WG to notice the flaw and try to improve instead of easily denying it.
glass thunder
yep if you did contact them last year i did report this system in 2018 spring season and wg said its fair system but to say the truth ribbel did talk to me for long so he did listen to all what i said and he kept replying just in the end system stayed same
tranquil seal
Ribble is not in charge of competitive though.
forest matrix
Sure Ribble is always listening to players. But he is not in charge of’comp (unfortunately)
glass thunder
even knopka said once in stream that russian teams dont like bo3 and they want bo5 or more but we saw nothing
was last twister stream with rolling if im not wrong (or spring)
atomic tartan
Well for offlines Bo3 is unacceptable
But for Ascents? I dont think theres time for Bo5 between matches
It’ll be pretty tight if it even fits at all
Now what i really dont understand is all the whining behind the seeding system
We’ve had this conversation many times before and every time no one came up with a better, realistic alternative
severe oar
How about a specific seeding that eliminates the lower lucky teams that got into the ascent tourneys. Let me come up with an example
atomic tartan
How about the current seeding system that matches these lower lucky teams against other lower lucky teams in the first round, so they eliminate each other?
pale finch
Yeah I agree on either making it bo5 or making it double elimination.
hoary ridge
I think the system isnt that bad... for eu at least i would say the top 8 is almost as i would rank it... sure i wouldnt have ranked apa that high and i was not sure about souls but they played quit well. Only clan i would somehow put in is win tbh
low badger
That just makes it too long @pale finch, and it is a qualifier, it's important and fundemental to remove weak teams as fast as possible to help progress through the bracket
pale finch
I still stand by that. I think there’s time for it.
hoary ridge
Bo5 would be great... but instead of 2 hours it would take probably 3-3.5hours!
low badger
Bo5s serve no real purpose when lower teams just get hard swept by a 65+% roster, you just add a extra punitive map for some bottom tier team that did not expect the agony they were going to face.
But to illustrate your point, the next round starts when all the teams finish their game, and doing some simple napkin math, if a average game takes 4:30 to complete, some sets can go way over the allotted 30m time budget in between games. (include 13m for the in between time) And to prepare for Bo5s is a beast in and of itself, going over five maps is a little more time consuming and mentally consuning than a one map shootout
And on a personal note, Bo5 makes upsets far harder than Bo3s, great for pro teams that can correct course mid tournament, but from a streamer and watcher pov- I really love my upsets on NA, and Bo3 enables them the
best.
And just on a note, qualifiers and pro tourney are already roughly the same length in terms of schedule, maybe can we just not have them be in a similar length in terms of battles against one team as well?
hoary ridge
From my point of view the qualifying stage is there to find the top 8 best teams amd to secure that upsets should be removed to a minimal! And even with bo5 there will always be upsets
Dont write a whole book 😅
low badger
There will be, there just will be less. But that benefit doesn't out weight the time loss from qualifiers. And honestly, teams have four tries to make up for an upset, if they fail from lower ranked teams consistently, they really do not belong there.
Haha my bad xd
thorn shale
👍
azure pecan
Double elimination or bo5 from 8th/finals wouldnt make the tour too long, before the ascension the qualifier stages were ending at 11p.m cest
Even if it was too long they Can just make groups with less than 32teams lol
Idk whats the reason of making groups of 32 but its not that smart, you just everytime face the same teams and basically u just face the whole region as on eu theres only 1 group on saturdays
And on eu the top8 hall of fame is really really close so it clearly wouldnt be too luxuous to have bo5s or double elimination
flat goblet
Double elimination would extend the tournament by at least half an hour, if not more
obsidian vine
I think it’s too long, these are ascents their not supposed to be forgiving, i personally couldn’t play on average 3 or 3.5 hours per night on ascent days
If you make it to the finals that’s already going on 2 hours and that’s quite long ngl. Not to mention if u do any preparing or scrims before the match. If it was BO5 or double elim it would be like 4 hours straight of playing...
flat goblet
Making any tournament bo5 requires that the time between the start of each match set goes from 30m to 45m or an hour to accommodate worst case scenario, set to the next 15 or 30m interval
obsidian vine
Yep
flat goblet
So changing a tournament from bo3 to bo5 realistically tacks on 1hr AT LEAST for 4 matches, and at worst 2hrs
obsidian vine
^
maybe The solution is spread it out through more days somehow? And then make it bo5?
flat goblet
If you’re doing bo5, that would be ideal
obsidian vine
that’s only way I could see them doing it, but it still is more of a time commitment wether it’s all on 2 days or spread out in 3 days
Overall I think it’s fine how it is now, better not to be that forgiving and there’s less games = less strats needed to be made and used ie more simplistic and easier to prepare. also the longer it is the harder it is for streamers. Imagine rolling streaming from 3 AM to almost 6 or 7 AM ( worst case scenario of the games taking the longest possible in a Bo5 scenario )
pallid raven
Pleasant WGPR account
thorn shale
@glossy vortex use #tourneys-team-search
atomic tartan
@pallid raven you act surprised
thorn shale
@wheat locust use #tourneys-team-search
pure lava
kAPA
thorn shale
@pallid raven I'm sorry but i fail to believe that a WGPR account would say stuff like this without context, if you don't mind showing it all. Otherwise it just looks like you are framing the person.
pallid raven
Yeah, definitely trying to frame someone... Lol
thorn shale
@glass thunder there is nothing fishy there, take one of your own replays and keep left click pressed on the screen, move the camera on your own and it'll look like the gun aims by itself. @pallid raven just show all of the conversation, no one would say something like that out of the blue 😉
pallid raven
Not my replay...
nova wing
Hi I was added to this group by Knopka. I don't rly use discord much, what's the point of this group?
glass thunder
@thorn shale why not post normal video when you want others to think you are cheating? maybe he made it to troll and he want others to think he is cheating idk why you try to explain to others how he did it xd
only one who can say he cheat or he is legit is wg so stop talking for nothing
azure pecan
Its 900% obvious that its not only the Moving camera on the Replay xD
First it is super slow to turn which is not possible
The gun aims properly like a robot and has about perfect aim values, this guy has +90% hit rate on fv183 and e100 or so when best players on eu dont have more than 87%
4400dmg avg on eu which is hard even by rigging loll
glass thunder
i dont think he cheat i have replay in last tournament and he did miss all his shots on me when i was in the open xd
azure pecan
Yes maybe he doesnt use it everytime tho, i think he has to activate or not, its a program
thorn shale
@azure pecan let me remind you he is playing on a reroll with about 300 battles
@glass thunder main reason he did that is to get 'clout'. Because when people think you are cheating and you are not that makes you good if u know what i mean.
azure pecan
And most likely he is playing on emulator by watching how he moves the cam
@thorn shale yes he is a reroll with 4.9k battles so ?
glass thunder
that in aim based game if you know what i mean
thorn shale
@azure pecan wait a sec, what account are we talking about here?
azure pecan
4.4k avg stays almost impossible wether its normal or newbie mm, and 91% hit rate
glass thunder
stay in topic guys
thorn shale
@azure pecan dms
azure pecan
Apa ernest
glass thunder
dont talk in useless subject that player have newbie mm so he is enjoying his time vs bad players + he is playing like normal players in tournaments i dont think he cheat
thorn shale
that is what i said, he is not cheating.
glass thunder
and i said fishy and as you know fishy doesn't mean cheat
umbral gulch
glass thunder
stay in topic guys
chilly terrace
@alpine adder Thanks for report!
We'll look into it.
@pallid raven Thanks for letting us know!
We'll take action against user of this account.
@azure pecan He is not playing on emulator. We have checked that.
@azure pecan @glass thunder If you showed us the cheat/mod that can do these things, it would be great. We are investigating this case, but there is not any cheat that could affect the accuracy and they can't exist technically. Anyway, he is not cheater/hacker/unfair player until it is proved.
Seeding principle is not perfect, right. But there is not any seeding principle in the world that is absolutely fair. Rather, there is, but it takes so much time for determine rank. Taking Blitz, we would take all possible combinations of all players and let them face each other.
I mean that current seeding may not be perfect, but still good if we consider whole season story. The bad sides of this seeding are leveled by 8 tournaments (not one), ticket system etc. This fact allow us to hold fair season and save reasonable time frames of season. Moreover, tournament format is balance question too. The balance of fairness and time of holding. There is no reason to change Bo3 to Bo5 in non-ticket tournaments, because good teams always get ticket to ticketed one. Therefore, this type of tournaments is balanced. Regarding ticketed tournament, if we make them longer and keep hold them in one day, there will be much teams that won't accept such changes, because it's taking much time now without any changes. If we make them longer and start hold them in several days, we will have the same story. Just remember what happened in previous season when there were 4 playing days in a week.
glass thunder
@chilly terrace system have many things you can fix like why not count number of battels when account with 1 battel but 100% wr can push all team + it can be in a season like twister or spring to make seeding with season rank , still this current system is ok but it can be better and yes you will never make perfect system but doesn't mean don't make the current one better
or maybe count tier 10 wr only in tier 10 tournaments
silver vapor
@azure pecan guess you didn't realize not everything on internet is what it say it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etx2DoavQ4k
azure pecan
Okey well
silver vapor
I've been personally working with game modifications for a good 4 years and not once I've ever seen an true aimbot footage, I'm only seeing clowns going on a witch hunt because of a bait video that basically illustrated the fact that you can turn camera in replays
analog osprey
Ernest 1-0 EU server
glass thunder
he is just best eu player xd
versed field
I hope that someday wg do clan rank system same kinda like in cs go etc
silver vapor
do hope that happens ^^ but Blitz circle is too small imo to have it being able to be constructed with any accuracy as how some of those games does it
thorn shale
@silver vapor i keep saying that but they would rather call him a cheater than listen.
fathom tiger
Isnt it just good that it’s not always all the same clans in top 8?
thorn shale
@fathom tiger it's the same players though.
fathom tiger
Facing other top clans early on eliminates some of the top clans but challenge is a must imo after all you gotta win ’em all to be the no.1
azure pecan
Ufff yes APA Ernest isn’t hacking at all, sorry guys
https://youtu.be/R05zuw6L52s i didn’t think we could totally block the camera on replays my bad
pure lava
kAPA
gentle sierra
Smh still with this thing
thorn shale
👍
thorn shale
APA_Shapy
chilly terrace
@glass thunder That's what I'm talking about. You rapidly suggest two improves. One of them is probably better then another. But even this one could be improved. And improved version could be improved as well etc. We think that current system is good for now. When we see necessity in improves, we'll do them, but for now everything is working good and the time that could be spent for this will be spent on other game things.
thorn shale
massive ur ideas big suck
pure lava
rude
boreal valve
Y don't we have clan tournaments for PC (the non-quick ones) ?
hollow bolt
@chilly terrace Just because there is no perfect system it doesn't mean the system you have now is good enough. If it can be improved then there is no reason to not improve it. If you are waiting for it to be a necessity for the system to be improved then you are going to let things be worse for no reason
chilly terrace
@boreal valve You had them before the season start. And you will have them when qualifiers to Professionals tournament end.
Major tournaments are held touch only because Blitz is a mobile game primarily.
gentle sierra
The system worked fine the last time in determining the top 8 , maybe its not perfect , still way better than the previous one , i suggest adding participation trophies for the people that are unhappy every time
south estuary
Where is Fugit to ask him about Emulator players on touch tournaments?😁😁(I-V-I) for exemple
azure pecan
well at least i hope that all teams in pro tournament will get a verification for each player it
chilly terrace
@dreamy adder
- Please, share you suggestions about such mods in PM. You don't want to make free advertisement for these mods, do you?
- This pack doesn't include such modifications.
thorn shale
it's entertaining 🍿
atomic tartan
It really isn’t
dreamy adder
He is not playing on emulator. We have checked that.
@chilly terrace how do you check that ? even if you check the IP/MAC adress, a player can use the same device by switching controls without an emulator like on Microsoft Surface Tablets
atomic tartan
Each device has a unique ID that the game identifies. Thats how PUBGM does it
chilly terrace
@dreamy adder We'll keep our methods in secret and it's not hard to guess why.
He hasn't used any emulators.
south estuary
I-V-I now is 4BC. all members of that clan should no longer be allowed to play in touch tournaments. at least
atomic tartan
And R2K became VEIL. What does that have to do with anything?
south estuary
Because they cheated :)
atomic tartan
....
If you wanna be “funny” there are a lot of other channels here for that where no one will think twice
south estuary
@atomic tartan u should follow ur advice
atomic tartan
🙄
glass thunder
@south estuary who cheated?
south estuary
Ivi clan on touch
glass thunder
but they are not even in top 16 so its not a problem
glass thunder
thx 🙂
whole oracle
digital gale
+++
shadow topaz
Heh
dreamy ridge
@chilly terrace ok now ban those who wrongly accused 😂
fossil hull
@warped patrol
crimson island
🧐
warped patrol
@azure pecan 4.4 k is impossible? Thought you are skilled 😅
warped patrol
4500 incoming
azure pecan
Yikes xdddd
gentle sierra
What a tournament related conversation
glass thunder
yes a newbie mm talk in tournament channel
atomic tartan
well it is a continuation about the same guy that might've been using emulators in touch tournaments
he may not be using emulators but just because there's not much at the bottom of one hole doesn't mean other holes don't exist
because no matter how you look at it, having an account with 300 battles in pubs with thousands in rating is just not normal behavior
glass thunder
nah he is not cheating he miss lot of shots in cws xd
atomic tartan
exactly what i mean
glass thunder
and he have onmy 300 battels in newbiew mm so you can get 91 hit rate
atomic tartan
how about 100?
RNG is specifically made just so even with perfect aim you will never have 100% hits
faint scaffoldBOT
Shapy#1314 has been warned.
glass thunder
yes so with perfect aim you dont get 100%
azure pecan
What
pure lava
Rip
atomic tartan
@glass thunder yes. and this guy does.
This was taken on Saturday
This past Friday he fired 48 shots over 3 games in two different tanks not exactly known for gun handling and every single one of them hit. Absolute. Zero misses.
Considering stuff like that is apparently an average game, I think this is a bit too good to be true
Either hes the best shooter/player in the world who makes what Ufpnjh and Holstein do look elementary
glass thunder
yes + they post fishy videos and call others morons for thinking that could be a cheat case
atomic tartan
Or hes shooting at stationary targets while not moving himself at close distances.
glass thunder
still because he played 300 battels he could be legit*