tourneys-discussion

[leaden belfry]

One thing I've learned over the years dealing with both wg and players is that no matter how frustrating or annoying things might get, how you voice your concerns or issues means everything. And that some diplomacy generally gets you a lot further than mud throwing, so to speak
(That's also why I try to not have to mute people or more, but engage instead)

[open latch]

Na is better than apac. Cant put them on the same side

[leaden belfry]

@fading brook play nice or get muted. Convo may not be easy or light-hearted, but it's civil. If you can't be that, step away

[pastel vapor]

Oh god what's going on here XD 🍿

[sonic sentinel]

i think we should make love not war guys

[analog osprey]

Na and asia have similar numbers of teams but the difference 💀

[urban river]

👍🏼

[leaden belfry]

Also to do with timezones, connection stuff, etc, as listed before

[unkempt quartz]

If there wasn’t any legionnaire rule 🫣

[leaden belfry]

@thorn shale English only on this server #rules

[turbid tinsel]

@sonic sentinel

[leaden belfry]

Also, #tourneys-team-search

[sonic sentinel]

i dont see why there has to be such animosity between servers just enjoy game 👍

[vale helm]

💸

[thorn shale]

can I play with you in the team today

[knotty quiver]

No

[gilded marsh]

NA has talent like reactor and his slg children

@dense imp oi

[analog osprey]

Xddd

[young ridge]

Lowering prize pool would also lower the participation even further.

[vale helm]

imagine less than 30 teams 🥶

[gilded marsh]

don’t lower the prize pool for NA or else assassin can’t feed his kids 😭😭😭

[pastel vapor]

XDDDD

[knotty quiver]

Ok keep NA same but APAC

[split cosmos]

🧐

[patent quartz]

🥶

[spark pumice]

if anyone wants money i’d recommend getting a job. If your in blitz for the money you’re doing something wrong

[opaque rock]

I think the whole this server better than this server debate is just wack, we should all just play game and keep to our own servers

[simple tusk]

After transfer accs in September 2022 it’s not EU as it was. It’s eu+part of cis. Basically 1,5 servers

[patent quartz]

when it comes to random battles yeah, but CW remains 50-50 as it's clearly displayed in this top8

[urban river]

I don’t think anyone asked to be fair mate, if your kinks are playing KV-2 Yolooooo "she is so crazy" and T49 you can keep doing it

[opaque rock]

If some top 4 EU or whatever wanna come to APAC to dethrone the reigning top 4 teams then go ahead, will be interesting to watch because every season its just the same 4 teams

[proud holly]

Let’s have another offline so that all regions can play together again 💪

[patent quartz]

300 ping no thank you

[opaque rock]

just beat them on 300 ping 🤷‍♂️

[gilded marsh]

just play on NA and join APX for free money 😱😱😱

[patent quartz]

Suuuuuurely EU players will bother grinding a new acc on 300ping aswell as playing CW on 300 ping, worthwhile investment, how to grind down your sanity xd

[opaque rock]

☠️

[sinful crest]

Who’s trying to strip NA money I’ll body anyone who wants it

[split cosmos]

man

[spark pumice]

all the complaints are about money and how unfair it is that EU doesn’t get more or am i misunderstanding? if that’s the issue just ask for more money on eu who cares if asia isn’t as good. and like i said if money really is the issue blitz isn’t the place to earn it

[urban river]

I’m tryna steal Assassin cashprize now, Apac isn’t a worthy opponent

[patent quartz]

ima strip u this season 🔥

[spark pumice]

as a wise man once said it’s not about the money it’s about sending a message

[opaque rock]

^^^

I don't really get the whole "We gotta trash the other servers to show that we need more money" when you can just request or put in a suggestion to tolyan that due to the increased team counts and competitiveness on EU server, rewards should be adjusted accordingly compared to the other servers without reduction in other servers prizepool

I don't know whether tanks blitz even has a comp scene and whether WG is funding it or not, but if they aren't then they should be able to increase EU prizepool while leaving NA and APAC relatively the same

[rare trellis]

@thorn shale meow 😻

[thorn shale]

Hey dawg

[rare trellis]

Are you ready to lose to CobraBlue_

[thorn shale]

Bro who is that 😂 🥉 🐍 🟦

[narrow meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-james-lebron-stare-stare-justpiot-gif-25311591 @toxic lintel watching APAC’s prize pool extend to 50k

[proud holly]

Man said:

👁️👄 👁️
👁️👄 👁️
👁️👅👁️
👁️👄 👁️
_ _

[vivid citrus]

🤓

[sinful crest]

Gimme all the smoke any server can get it

[proud holly]

Forget strvs, WG gotta nerf sconqs and 121bs now wah wah wah 😭

[barren imp]

if you're going to complain about "free money" but aren't willing to try for it, what is there to complain about??

[leaden belfry]

have you accepted cookies?

The tab has to stay active

[patent quartz]

back in 2020 we had press accounts and we tried to play there, it was impossible due to ping and loss issues

[leaden belfry]

Most of Apac server has that though

That's part of the problem 😅

Lovely tour games so far btw. Feels weird not to stream though, haha

Hmm is the timer working then though? Like, the blue timer, is it counting?

[barren imp]

put up with it or don't worry about it then, if the goal is to increase competition on all servers then removing prize money would be counterproductive

also to your point earlier about everyone agreeing so it must be true - the only people who seem to agree here are the ones who would benefit from more prize money, so that's an obvious bias and not really a good argument

[patent quartz]

it's not about removing it, it's more about rebalancing the spread across all 3 servers, because you can't have the same prize pool and all 3 when there twice as many teams on EU only than on both NA and APAC combines... i never said removing it, nor was i the only one mentionning it

[bleak crypt]

legend has it that jta is still trying to kill a oneshot type 71 till this day

[crisp rain]

💀

[smoky elm]

Can't wait for Off-lines where all 4 servers compete against each other. Gonna be hella fun. 😄 I foresee much inter-server rivalries and competition. Competitiveness will be off the charts.

[autumn plover]

SQ doesn’t need nerf

[crisp shore]

Same

[proud holly]

Wow wow wow so smart 😮

[wicked breach]

So much for the pushback against naming and shaming

[bleak crypt]

🐀

[proud holly]

jungle meta gotta talk their smack no cap

[thorn shale]

@opaque heart I need your help .
Will you accept my friend request?

[barren imp]

you want to remove money from the pool, so what i said was accurate. and let's be honest all servers are getting way more money than we deserve for playing funny pixel tanks (including EU), so i don't see a need to complain.

and again you weren't the only one mentioning it, but the only people who DID mention it stand to gain. so that is an irrelevant biased argument

if you're asking why i only reply to you and not everyone, it's because you're the only person talking about it who i actually know

[thorn shale]

@opaque heart is there going to be a requirement for players to have cameras on for Top 4 matches ?

[proud holly]

wait what

[spark pumice]

fighting demons as we speak

and get it right he was 2 shot

[patent quartz]

fair enough and yeah understandable, it remains a game, but i still stand by the fact that it should be reworked/rebalanced since it's aging and it hasn't had much work done to it

[quick robin]

you want to increase the EU prize pool and neglect other servers?

[proud holly]

i think he just wants the increases in prize pool to reflect the region's related competition

[patent quartz]

i dont want anything, i'm only saying (like several other fellas here) that the distribution should be wisely rebalanced considering the difference of registered teams between all servers since (prove me wrong) one server has more registered teams every PYS than all other servers combines...

[green elk]

gonna be real here. APAC is free cash for those that can maintain top 4, the rest of the teams are struggle bussing

[fluid pilot]

That doesn't make sense though, it's true eu has more players than the other servers but there is still only 4 top 4 teams per server, so it's fine as it is. Taking away money from other server just because they are smaller is really unfair

[quick robin]

there is nothing to prove wrong. Yes, EU have x4 the amount of registered teams, no one is fighting that. let me put it into another way, would you, mr spitfires think you deserve less of a prize pool based on the overall size of the server itself? your argument is flawed

[green elk]

NA has also been having some more teams come in i mean there are 1 different top 4 teams on NA and others have been almost gatekeeped out, so NA shouldnt be reprimanded and just keep it the same that it was thought of years ago, though i suggestr we reintroduce offlines for the even better teams to get even more cash @sinful crest make me proud son

[fluid pilot]

^^^ it doesn't make sense to redistribute based on server population. And if it were to happen asia and America would lose like 80% of their rewards loooo

[barren imp]

either way it doesn't seem like it's happening

[green elk]

#bringbackofflines

[solid pine]

This chat is as self centered as ever I see

[green elk]

frfr

[solemn pivot]

i love how much fairly useless arguments can come out of one part of a pixel tank game

[thorn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/money-eyes-sponge-bob-mr-gif-22736465

[green elk]

i just care bout the cash

[quick robin]

dw let bro cook

[patent quartz]

we've had this argument earlier saying that we can't judge other regions' level because it's shaming and all (when it's genuinely true 95% of the way) and now that we put into perspective the fact that when u compare all servers, on NA and APAC, between 7% and 15% of the teams who registered are rewarded with money at the end of the tournament, whereas on EU it's between 1% and 2% (3% worst case scenario), where we combine both EU and CIS teams which have been (as far as blitz CW tells) better overall than NA and APAC.
once again there's no shaming or anything, i'm just quoting facts some others quoted earlier today just so u understand it's just about fairness and that the work time players have to put in to have a higher chance of achieving such a result his tremendously higher on EU than on NA and APAC, i stand my point and you wont change my mind.

[solid pine]

Comparison is the thief of joy

[green elk]

apac needs the money more than the aristocratic ways of eu

[patent quartz]

let's not bring Geopolitics into blitz topic, shall we?

[quick robin]

thank you Sp1tFires for being the safe gatekeeper of #tourneys-discussion

[harsh quail]

Nam flashbacks

[solid pine]

I’m sure handing EU server more money than other servers would have NO consequences that would hurt the competitive scene as a whole

[cyan timber]

give less to EU and more to asia

[crisp shore]

I think we can all agree that we can consider a bigger prize pool for the EU server and no reduction for both NA and APAC servers right?

[fluid pilot]

Asia should get all the money tbh

[spark pumice]

encourage asia growth

[solid pine]

Wouldn’t that just be an incentive for players to travel their way to EU server instead of playing their own server? Seems counter productive for the growth of both Asia and NA

[green elk]

nah but wg lose all money and then sells more crates causing more frustration

[spark pumice]

as if wg doesnt make whatever they spend in a season on comp every time a new crate drops

[steel shell]

We need strv and carro crates 👀

[crisp shore]

Well you still have the legionnaire rule and the ping to contend with. You can have the same argument in reverse as they consider the competition on NA and APAC less competitive. 🤔

[regal lynx]

yes

[patent quartz]

you're very welcome kind sir

[green elk]

nah i need 2 not spend 300 dollars and not even getting the strv

[fluid pilot]

Actually I think na should get all the prize pool because we have AMERICA 🦅🇺🇸💪

[thorn shale]

Facts

[quick robin]

💀

[harsh quail]

W

[cyan timber]

do u have twin tower

[solid pine]

Less competitive but lower rewards… meaning they’d focus their time not on NA but on their own server on EU. Not to mention there hasn’t been a single legionnaire that’s gotten first place on NA except for like one season in it’s history. Doesn’t really seem like it’s working.

[fluid pilot]

We had them! It's ok tho we can just make new ones on minecraft

[crisp shore]

You've made the point about not having a single legionnaire that's got first place on NA except for one so it kinda proves the point of the difficulty of the NA and APAC teams playing on the EU server as a unit or even as legionnaires.

Anyways, I said it is a "consideration". It can be a food of thought but there are fors and againsts for both sides definitely. I'm just making sure we're on the same page that the prize pool for NA and APAC should not decrease.

[latent olive]

Great games tonight and it is a shame to lose EG, but they will come back in Summer much stronger no doubt.

Congrats to APA, AQVA & RJCTS for getting into tomorrow, where we will no doubt have more exciting games! Hopefully by then my voice will come back after all of tonights excitement

❤️ to all the teams!

[solid pine]

Little confused on what ur saying in that first paragraph.

[harsh quail]

Do u have queen

[green elk]

i mean considering that zird is leading apa and hes a na player so idk

[spark pumice]

what happened to your empire

[cyan timber]

im not bri ish bruv

[latent olive]

Im British and no we dont have a Queen anymore, merely a consort

[green elk]

yall are arguing in circles like a bunch of nitwits ngl

[spark pumice]

are you new here? nvm it says so right there

[fluid pilot]

The queen is secretly alive in a bunker in the south pole.

[crisp shore]

I mean if the NA legionnaires cannot consistently get the first place, that proves it is difficult to play across server due to ping and having to work with another team. The same thing happens for NA/APAC players playing on the EU server in this respect, if you see what I mean.

[proud holly]

wait nvm

[latent olive]

I never argue, I forcefully debate

[cyan timber]

??? zird is leading aqva and hes from sweden LMAO

[spark pumice]

zird best na player

[solid pine]

Ofc that’s true. However that disconnect of being on a different server playing for money would be less of a con if the $$ on EU was greater than other servers. I’m just saying u would see a spike in legionaries as a whole if EU were to raise its prize pool

[steel shell]

ehm

[proud holly]

🗿 _ _

[thorn shale]

zird na player??

[thorny carbon]

Most legionnaires get benched anyway right? Except ru players because their ping is fine on eu.

[latent olive]

lol, someone tell Peter he is not EU but NA - could be a nice surprise

Also dont let uuuuni know he is out of a job by the competition sneaking in

[pale finch]

Hello teammate

[vale helm]

🤯

[cyan timber]

hello captain

[crisp shore]

That is a valid argument, though it is still important to think of the technical difficulties for a player to play on a different server. I don't know the stats for the NA server but I can speak for the APAC server that if it is apparent that APAC server is a lot less competitive and easier to get the prize pool, we'd see a lot of EU legionnaires but at the moment we don't due to ping and having to grind all over again.

[green elk]

50 percenters in top 4 lol

[proud holly]

yo congrats on top 12, that mustve been very difficult to achieve

💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

[solid pine]

It’s more common on EU and NA simply due to the fact depending on where u live, u get pretty decent ping on the other server. For example I got pretty good ping on EU simply due to the fact I live on the east coast of the US. So depending on location, being a legionnaire isn’t an issue as much as others

[warm pasture]

…

[crisp shore]

ngl the ping for NA server is not terrible for me either though still a tad noticeable.

[steel shell]

playing at 3 am is an issue for many tho

[solid pine]

Indeed for EU players that would be unfortunate. For NA tho, EU tournament time is like 12-2pm so it’s not all that bad.

Then again that’s double the time I’d spend on this game so I think I’m good 🏃‍♀️

[crisp shore]

plus it's afternoon as said above for the na players when eu comp starts so some of them will be working or at school.

[outer isle]

Not only in top8 btw. Same in top 16 there's at least 40-45%

[steel shell]

yup

[solid pine]

I’m starting to wonder why this was never a discussion when CIS server still existed and there were 4 servers in total?

[proud holly]

i feel like it was tho
at one point

it prob just died out like all the other conversations that started with people complaining/pointing out issues

[crisp shore]

Fair point, but we don't know what's going on for the CIS server unless some people hopping between the 2 servers can tell us.

[outer isle]

Because the number of players here and teams has become 4 times higher, and also players with enough brain to get into upper top 32-8

[solid pine]

Yes but we can say for almost a fact that RU teams were much more competitive than EU during that time. If it was such an issue, why didn’t RU teams bring up this point?

[crisp shore]

Same goes to the CIS server back in the days ngl, they fill all their 1024 slots for PYS iirc, while on the EU server we only manage like 200ish at one PYS when CIS is still around (including the phantom teams 👀)

Not to say the numbers dropped back to around 100 this season when we had more than 400 in 2022 Autumn 🤔

[outer isle]

Still, it's pretty clear that now EU is the major server in terms of comp so increasing prizes wouldn't be a bad idea...

[solemn pivot]

2k gold for top 32 eu 💀

[green elk]

bro that 2k gold life saver fr

[crisp shore]

At the end of the day, we don't know if the CIS teams complained back then when CIS still exists, as all the conversation will happen on another Discord server rather than here most likely, unless someone from there can verify. 👀

[outer isle]

Yeah give me customized camo thx

[solemn pivot]

☠️

[steel shell]

5mil credits, amazing

[fluid pilot]

This ur face reveal?

[proud holly]

Yes if more melanin and less chins

[thorn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-shitpost-gif-22230715

[outer isle]

Yeah, definitely worthy the effort for this season! Finally I can restore my t62a and carry more teams to the win.

[fluid pilot]

Ign and ss of garage for access to the server.

[thorn shale]

Justice for Dunk244

[harsh quail]

do you guys like big bird or cereal

[thorn shale]

Bad dog

[spark pumice]

give him his clan back

[fluid pilot]

🦆 > 🥚

[atomic tartan]

No.

[sharp raptor]

Hey guys I'm knew to this so I ve been wanted to join a tournament for the summer

[green elk]

new*

[mental ocean]

Ur small

[proud obsidian]

wazzup bejing

[atomic tartan]

For a worldwide cost of living index of 100, the cost of living in Europe averages at 106. Russia is at 61. The US is at 143 and Canada is at 142. That means for every $1 a Russian player wins by finishing P1 in the European Blitz Cup, they've effectively made the buying power of $2.34 in the US. It means in Twister Cup 2019, if Reign won each of us would've made $7,000 USD. Cost of living considered, Ufpnjh and every single one of the other 6 players effectively walked away with over $16,000. Yes some countries are higher than others, but the general trend compared is that Europe is significantly cheaper to live in than the US and every dollar they make is worth significantly more in purchasing power on the EU server.

If Spitfire really wants to talk about adjusting the prize pool, cost of living adjustments based on actual economic data should be the first thing on the list. Not made up "server competitiveness" factors that are impossible to measure at best, and a comical chest puffing exercise at worst.

It is already unfair that the Europeans/Russians are literally making more in purchasing power for the same finishing position.

[proud obsidian]

Europe and cheap what? Gas prices here like twice as high compared to the US. You cannot compare Europe to US. In Europe are poor and cheap countries like Bulgaria but also richer and expensive countries like Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Luxemburg

[atomic tartan]

do you guys drink gas, build houses of solid oil, and eat gas every 3 meals? that sounds unhealthy.

sure. there are rich and poor countries. let's give them all cost of living adjustments, and it'll be fair across the board.

[proud obsidian]

No we just have a ton of tax on gas

[crisp shore]

Maybe I haven't worded it the best but I was trying to get everyone on the same page that there is unanimity on that both APAC and NA deserve no prize pool cut. The argument remains to be whether EU server deserve a raise, or not at all.

[solid pine]

Not really taking into account the sheer size of the US are u now? We go through gas more than any other country by a long shot. We do not have the means to just build railways to everywhere we need to go

[patent quartz]

it's a game involving Esport we're talking about, not a job which takes into account local taxes and all, it has nothing to do with blitz here imo, other games dont pay their players depending of where they live unless they're under contracts

[atomic tartan]

it's the same thing. giving EU an (undeserved) raise without changing NA and APAC is still elevating one server's prize pool above the others, based on no justifiable factors and Spitfire's ego.

[proud obsidian]

For such long distances for example if u go from Las Vegas to San Francisco a nice high speed railway would be intelligent. And tbh how often do you really drive such distances?

[cyan timber]

spitfire ego is a good reason

[crisp shore]

No not really. My point is that we are arguing about whether EU deserves a raise. I'm not arguing for or against any side here.

I'm just stating that we all agree NA and APAC do not deserve a cut, that's all.

[proud obsidian]

EU is far more competitive than NA or APAC. In the end there are often the same clans in Top 8 but Top 16 changes every season

[atomic tartan]

you're the one who asked for changing the prize pool based off arbitrary factors. I gave you measurable ones. not so great when it doesn't look so well for you now, does it?

[crisp shore]

Also I think we might be on a slippery slope here when arguing about cost of living because everyone is in a different situation and it is difficult to generalise an individual situation to one country, let alone an entire continent.

[barren imp]

spit didn't ask for less money when CIS was the biggest server. hmmmmmm

[steel shell]

do you understand how this even works? xD You cant compare stuff like that.
Of course NA citizen gets less value for the same amount of money but there is literally 0 things to do about that

[patent quartz]

Can i ask what my ego has to do with any of this???? especially when our server unlike yours has been suffering drastic changes regarding both the community and the CW scene, and many more players argued about the same topic earlier, tf u talking about even man stay retired if it's to bring people themselves into the conversation

_34 i wasn't good enough to earn money back then xddd, not my concern really

[solid pine]

I too like to word my paragraphs in a non confrontational manner with the ulterior motive being me getting more money

[barren imp]

dang did the server merge really happen that long ago??

[proud obsidian]

I am not crying when a Polish APA player wins the tournament. Poland is cheaper than austria but this person or lets say this clan won the tournament but i am not even participating.

[atomic tartan]

companies give cost of living adjustments all the time, because salaries are based on standard of living. if we're going to change the blitz prize pool, i dont see why this is a far stretch to do the same. adjust the winnings based off cost of living.

it's a better factor than "oh my server is better than yours". and a lot more provable.

[cyan timber]

i do its not fair, belarus minimum wage like 100dollar uni already is a millionair meanwhile it can only pay rent for 1 month here..

[proud obsidian]

WG could also make a prize pool of 20 000 gold instead of Dollars. Then this discussion is solved xD

[patent quartz]

tbf it's been a bit now since we had that merge, and already a few seasons have past since then but even before that i would barely get any money off tournaments since cashprize was significantly lower than what it's about to become, once again for the love of god i just stated what was said earlier today + my opinion and nothing more idk why both of you think i said something i didnt say

[barren imp]

good! that is the argument DragonKrieg's trying to make - changing the prize pool because of silly reasons is not a good idea. giving a counterexample to show how silly the argument is - reductio ad absurdum

[steel shell]

xd

[proud obsidian]

I think we should support lower income people. Change the US Prize pool to 0 €. EU gets all of it and Asia nothing because lol Asia smol.

[outer isle]

Maybe, instead of increasing the prize pool, we could make some cool gadgets to gift winners of the seasons like this rucksack 👍🏻
I think in this way EU server will be happier

[solid pine]

Ok so ur in the same position as everyone else? Blitz earnings don’t do anything for me financially. I’m sure it’s the same for u. Ur right that ur opinion is your own and I respect that. But don’t try to justify it based off of server size. That’s a horrible exhibit to back your claim on

[barren imp]

you are allowed to have your opinion, and we am allowed to explain to you why we think your idea is toxic and ultimately bad

in either case, whether or not YOU personally played comp in 2021 or not, no one in EU history (prove me wrong) asked for a smaller prize pool when they were smaller than CIS. you mask your argument as logical, but your motives are purely selfish

[patent quartz]

we have 2 servers in one... it's barely about size at this point, we have both CIS and EU to players since the merge, which means on average half the prizepool for both

[regal lynx]

damn bro, What place do I have to get to get one?

[atomic tartan]

Exactly. I'm simply entertaining the idea of messing with the prize pool by suggesting an alternative method, one more measurable than when Spitfire rambles on about his server changing every season etc somehow proving it's more competitive or whatever immeasurable criteria hes on about

If he wants to go off about me being retired or whatever, guess what? counterpoint how about we gatekeep the conversation to those with actual success records instead? Has spitfire even been to an offline, let alone multiple? met a single WG employee? won any season?

see how ridiculous it gets?

[proud obsidian]

Why should WG give EU a smaller prize pool when most of the money comes from Europe. It made more money than CIS.

[outer isle]

EU server only 👍🏻

[barren imp]

100%, cherrypicking arbitrary rules to support one's case is not a useful conversation at all and i think you illustrated that well

[potent magnet]

Why don’t you guys win your server first and maybe then complain about the prize pool?

[regal lynx]

boo

[solid pine]

This is getting into some interesting territories 🥶

[atomic tartan]

it's really not. server shaming is nothing new

[patent quartz]

that's what i though u retired too long ago to keep up with CW scene, yeah i wont a season, played CW for years, probably more than you now but who cares it's not the topic.
you're trying to bring IRL stuff such as taxes into Blitz's pricepool??? you're not gonna live off blitz, if u want to pay taxes just get a job, your point is completely irrelevant, anyway you do you i'm tired gb

[cyan timber]

🐝

[proud obsidian]

America Moment

[solemn pivot]

is that the LE winning reward?

[outer isle]

@atomic tartan @solid pine do you guys find bad the idea of also asking for more cosmetic rewards in top16-32 since here we have way way more competitive teams around this range? Considering this you can get already a good reason to increase prizes for the whole server

[crisp shore]

I agree 👀

[outer isle]

No. But it would be cool to get at uni with this unique spring season rucksack 👍🏻

[crisp shore]

Let's not go to personal attacks here because ultimately it's not the main focus of argument.

[barren imp]

i don't see any personal attacks, just objective performances. but fair enough

[solemn pivot]

i agree 💪

[opaque heart]

[cyan timber]

what u think about these greedy EU players tolyan

[opaque heart]

i can write a poem for the winner to praise them

[steel shell]

our switzerland teammate can buy a loaf of bread and snickers for that money, can eu get more money? 👀

[opaque heart]

I just want to say: if other servers get less, doesn't mean EU will get more

[atomic tartan]

who said anything about taxes? and I will have a job after graduation, thanks for asking

@outer isle I think there should be more custom rewards. Like Spitfire said no one should be playing Blitz to make a living, that's what jobs are for. The whole cash prize pool can literally go in favor of personalized emblems for clans, or even players, and it will be more rewarding for winning in tank comp than the money

[tame shore]

Yeah im poor man from switzerland😥

[outer isle]

Sounds good but can we get at least a pencil case with this cool camo? 😎

[steel shell]

dont worry, you can get an ice cream as we advanced to top3 💪

[barren imp]

other games make custom skins for players to support their favorite teams - WG already does this sometimes with avatars, but camos would be a great opportunity for this too 😎

[tame shore]

Nice i think i can even get one with chocolate sauce on top

[solid pine]

A custom camo for a team/clan would be great imo.

[outer isle]

20 euro prize pool for top32, brand new camos for all echelons in eu pls so we can get a nice new camo and a full meal at MC Donald thx

[steel shell]

Yeah team camos/attachments would be great
Also since we got an opportunity to get cars/motorcycles for our garage, making a trophy for winners would be a nice decoration

[tame shore]

Btw i also wanne be in Tolyan Club 🙏

[barren imp]

for example overwatch league had a team skin for EVERY team. i don't follow the scene at all but it was at least 15-20+, im sure WG could at least ask each top 8 team for a color scheme and small logo patch to throw into some camo template

[solid pine]

Literally keep the Pro blue/orange template. Allow teams to pick a the two colors that make up the majority of the color scheme. (Except red for obvious reasons)

[outer isle]

Black and white

[barren imp]

they could even be limited-time if it adds too much to the game, but it would still be cool

[harsh quail]

Hi guys I like the mobile tank game

[steel shell]

i like the tank mobile game as well

[sonic flame]

200iq: sell the team camos and with each purchase a small fee is added to the prize pool 🤯

[barren imp]

🔥🔥🔥

[steel shell]

Crowdfunding in blitz would be funny

[analog osprey]

I’m poor in Switzerland

[proud obsidian]

300iq everyone gets camos you like as reward

[solid pine]

400iq: give us the option of picking one camo to have infinite certificates for
(I’m picking danger zone camo all day)

[urban river]

It’s the worst club on the server, I was in the [tolyan hater club] until I have been restricted and forced to leave

[quick robin]

🤨

[tame shore]

True west swiss is sooo poor im wondering how u survive

[proud obsidian]

General Feldmarschall Janosch

[hardy delta]

Idea: be grateful wargaming even gives cash prizes to begin with and has tournaments 🤯🤯

[fluid pilot]

This was a fun backread

[cyan timber]

lower it for all servers

[harsh quail]

rare rekt W

[solid pine]

Give me 1 million gold instead

[summer ibex]

I would gladly take 10,000 credits for compensation. We could bring some more economics into this by saying that those who are willing to work for less are the ones who get the job. Maybe nobody else should get paid at all since I’m satisfied with only 10,000 credits!

[analog osprey]

Without glaciers it’s like Botswana this country

[atomic tartan]

I disagree, given that Spitfire is from a country with half the cost of living he should only receive 5,000.

[summer ibex]

I guess I’ll have to settle on 500 splinters then. Good luck JKR! Being in the running for 500 juicy splinters must be exhilarating. (I could use those to get avatar crates to stack more dab emoji avatars 🤑)

[fluid pilot]

Guys @harsh quail lives in Haiti so he should be given $50

[merry blade]

That drip goes hard

[steel shell]

He used joystick too much, happens

[urban river]

is my man trying something there? EG has failed to win their 13th season on the EU serv bcs they smh faced good opponents, can you relate?

[solid pine]

I wouldn’t take assassin too seriously…

[sinful crest]

NOPE I can’t relate because I stay winning my boy

[thorn shale]

Actually they got unlucky

[sinful crest]

For ten games😜😜😜

[thorn shale]

Technical difficulties 😭

messing around but gl to all the teams tonight ❤️

[barren imp]

spongbobe!

[urban river]

@solid pine well I don’t know abt every random players from other servers sooooo

would be funny to watch a NA team or even an APAC team face KROLI, a team that didn’t make it to EU Top4, they could play 15 games and smh have 15 unlucky results^^

[solid pine]

Cool I guess

[sinful crest]

Lmao the cope is crazy id take your top4 money If i was on eu 😂

[urban river]

4th place at best indeed

[red fern]

😭

[atomic tartan]

dude. no one cares.

[urban river]

why would you even take time to send your first msg this evening on this server then? make it males sense

[proud holly]

Apparently to be a good opponent, you just have to use a 183 and shoot at intelligent t100 drivers

[thorn shale]

I am Tdub

[sinful crest]

How’s a guy that loses on his server everytime gonna talk about 4th place to a guy who’s won 6 szns ain’t no sense

[naive wedge]

Yo any expert tounrey players here wil lsummer season work on same principle as spring(4 prove ur skills to get points)
or like winter(4 qualifiers each top 4 qualifies for final tournament)

[solemn pivot]

i think we should just delete all servers 👍

[red fern]

won 6 seasons on na yet unable to smash our poor snty team from blitz cup in training during autumn 🫣

[wanton mortar]

🤯

[atomic tartan]

training

[thorn shale]

7-9 while playing with constant 200+ ping

[sinful crest]

Lmao SCORE was 7-9 and we have guys on 250 ping 😂 nice eu domination my boy. Play on NA server and you’ll get dog walked

[vale helm]

🥱

[red fern]

yes but we didnt win 6 seasons my boy i aint flexing hahahah, never talked abt eu dominations either

[barren imp]

guys maybe we should turn to the last offline if we are talking about serious results tbh

[wanton mortar]

we should look forwards a new offline

[jovial ibex]

fr

[thorn shale]

true come play NA palfar

[urban river]

winning against who? mighty STR8? lmaoooo
NA guys need an offline to get humbled slightly, Moe’s RGN used to be that team but since then what am I seeing?
Just looking forward to the next offlines 🙂

[sinful crest]

Line up any offline and I’d show you what NA has been up to

[atomic tartan]

its okay i get it, the scrim is your moment

[supple hearth]

@urban river Ur so good at the game honestly, I’m ur biggest fan

[analog osprey]

Well eu has 2 blitz cup

[red fern]

fact (i love y'all just wanted some spice 😘 )

[steel shell]

funni

[proud holly]

Omg alfar hiiiiii 😍

[vale helm]

just make an offline with 200k prize pool. best server will get more money, everything gonna be fair everyone will be happy 🐐

[red fern]

I didnt know you were member of the jkr clan. You're very involved is everything good? (also hiiiii @proud holly )

[barren imp]

surely the best results to compare are the most recent ones right

[proud holly]

Bruh you two literally played together like half a week ago chill 😭

[sinful crest]

Whenever an offline happens I just hope these guys can make it run up or shut up 🤫

[red fern]

🫡 🤝

[analog osprey]

Stop thinking about the eu, my lovely Mexican now u have to face the Portuguese colony

[urban river]

Al Nassr winning the Saudi League doesn’t mean they would challenge against Werder Bremen and Stuttgart, let alone Bayern or Leipzig

[narrow meteor]

If offline happen this beef will be fun 🤤

[atomic tartan]

I'm not. I'm simply on the NA server, and still have yet to understand why the EU server feels the need to consistently try to say it's the best server ever and everyone else is bad.

If you people seriously believed that you wouldn't feel the need to bring it up so many times, like at this point are you guys lying to us or yourselves lmao

[sinful crest]

Ain’t nobody wanna respect this tho 😂😂😂

[thorn shale]

💀

[hardy delta]

💀

[solid pine]

Oh I remember that

[vagrant phoenix]

They all went offline 😭😭😭

[rocky crystal]

💀

[full night]

☠️

[patent quartz]

Cobwabwu APX is typing

[jovial ibex]

💀

[harsh quail]

You are cacaty

[narrow meteor]

Assassins cooking???

[fluid pilot]

💀💀💀

[red fern]

hmm at some point id have considered jkr being the best clan overall but not anymore knowing the lack of opposition and the merge but we'll see that next time in offlines if it happens. Regional tournaments are way too boring

[zinc saddle]

fr full course meal

[thorny carbon]

Let’s have a na - eu show match. Double match. One on eu one on eu so it’s ping fair.

[proud holly]

Yo what’s the girl’s @

[supple hearth]

Buy me tier 10

[rocky crystal]

Reverse image search 🫣

[jovial ibex]

Both on EU???

[fluid pilot]

🤨 📷

[red fern]

@analog osprey wtf you doing you fraud, see what they are doing now

[zinc saddle]

@zinc saddle

[autumn plover]

💀. They ganna be like. That’s it , we are quitting playing EU server comp. My career ended by JKR

[analog osprey]

Lol we also won them in train but we didn’t screen

[urban river]

@turbid sinew have some shame, how can you lose a training against this NA superteam???

[proud holly]

Let’s have some shame for getting caught out 3 times in a row instead 👍

[narrow meteor]

Respectfully, does EU even have CobraBlue??? How can a region claim to be better when it doesn’t even have the best player

[thorn shale]

we have Lieut

[fluid pilot]

Blue >

[steel shell]

Rrekty >>

[red fern]

no proof so it's fake sorry

[analog osprey]

It’s jkr it’s not an association of alcoholics players team. Xd

[solid pine]

LOL what about Bey?

[jovial ibex]

We need the offlines to happen

[late kernel]

[thorny carbon]

This chat is vibing rn

[narrow meteor]

Damn good point

[zinc saddle]

legundo>assassin

[quick robin]

I enjoyed the professional EG- matches

[jovial ibex]

Legundo is simply the better player

[hardy delta]

Hi, Challengers Champion from the EggNoggs team!! 🔥

[steel shell]

me too

[fluid pilot]

After reading this chat I think that WG should increase the NA cash prize pool.

[upper oar]

we have tan tan

[odd wolf]

[barren imp]

💀

[solid pine]

💀

[autumn plover]

DMG>>>>>>>

[full night]

💀

[harsh ember]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[upper oar]

[orchid spear]

❤️

[quick robin]

@upper oar can we get a post season interview regarding on the specimen tan tan 🎤

[spark pumice]

assassin cooked

[jovial ibex]

Dunk244>

[zinc saddle]

bro said specimen💀

[proud holly]

im cant find the @ 😭

[autumn plover]

I still have Tan tan real face photos

[upper oar]

if anyone wants the code of tan tan PM me

[solemn nexus]

4x champ in chat

[atomic tartan]

This conversation has ran it's course. At the end of the day EU is going to say NA is bad and NA is going to say EU is poor. It is what it is and I wouldn't hold my breath over that changing

[zinc saddle]

bros flexxing like klay tompson lmaooo

[proud holly]

I found the @ it was melimtx

[quick robin]

you alive bro?

[supple hearth]

Hop on bs foo, rank 35 time

[urban river]

where’s Moe?

[atomic tartan]

next question

[hardy delta]

me personally i'd leave after getting violated that badly

[late kernel]

[solemn nexus]

We play in between matches 😂😂

[urban river]

no one is holding you, feel free to

[proud holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/782496869972049921.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[orchid spear]

Negative, he has to win 4 games in top 8 again before he leaves otherwise his high placement was a fluke!!

[proud holly]

wheres ur hp

[steel shell]

i hope my late night stay is worth it

[fluid pilot]

BRO

[urban river]

wheres ur hp

[harsh quail]

W

[red fern]

Its not him lol

[urban river]

man imagine how difficult it must be to actually be able to read…

[rare trellis]

what did tan tan even do to u

[proud holly]

no care is funny

[urban river]

oh that was indeed, everyone laughed so hard we can’t even see it in the chat

[proud holly]

zzzz zzz zz

[urban river]

exactly, that is everyone honest reactions to your jokes

[sinful canopy]

The presidential election makes more sense than whatever is happening here

[late kernel]

[proud holly]

💢 im shaking my screen rn

[urban river]

no it’s all good, take it easy

[thorny carbon]

This discussion has been interesting to say the least

[merry blade]

Bros asking the real questions

[urban river]

hahaha

[thorn shale]

🤔

[narrow meteor]

😔

[spark pumice]

😢

[analog osprey]

My lovely Mexican u didn’t kill me!!!!

[steel shell]

Nvm

[urban river]

Siuuuu

[fluid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-sad-panda-gif-10868331

[median lodge]

@opaque heart what format will summer be 👀

[proud holly]

Top 16 two round robins so everyone can get free cyber summers

[thorn shale]

💔 unfortunate

[median lodge]

Unironically if they did 2 RR’s for next szn qualifyiers that would lowkey be a pretty format

[proud holly]

They did round robins for summer before

[summer ibex]

no it will likely be one large tournament. Refer to last year's summer tournament called "new way to play"

[thorn shale]

Hello chat

[latent olive]

interesting debate, but I do think poor @patent quartz has had a somewhat rough deal, because his logic does make sense.

From what I can tell, all he is saying is that when you have 2 servers, each with $5k prize fund, and you merge that into 1 server then logic dictates you now have a $10k prize fund. That makes perfect sense, logically.

Nevertheless, you cant take away from other servers and no server, in real terms, is better than the other, not really. Each server has its own unique play style that caters to that server and that servers player base. They differ from server to server, but that doesnt mean server A is better than server B, just different.

Obviously the best solution is to have off-lines, at least that way the servers get to battle it out against each other for the same prize fund

[sinful crest]

You’re the only eu guy that Can contest me 😡😡😡

[latent olive]

careful or I will tell everyone how Droodles recked you 3 times in a row - opps did I say that out loud?

[knotty quiver]

Droodles and reck someone, that's a omegalul, must be in dreams.

[latent olive]

claim to fame, I once recked droodles & fishy toon in my Maus whilst tooning with JKR with 400 ping 😊

And I was streaming so evidence is there lol

[knotty quiver]

He must've enjoyed it.

[latent olive]

bet he didnt

I do miss commentating the NA tours, what with the audience comments in the chat that are very passionate. However, NA now as 2 of the best commentators, with 34 and rrobert85, who are far better than little old me

[keen saffron]

I miss your commentary here on NA, don’t say that

[barren imp]

much love!! but you are more than welcome to come back, we love you :^)

[rare trellis]

@keen saffron hello my favourite Brazil

[keen saffron]

Hello worst WT America main 🤝

[rare trellis]

Swedish mains don’t get opinions. 👎👎

[boreal prawn]

🍿

[keen saffron]

Your abrams’ neck says otherwise ☕

[rare trellis]

Handheld nations 😮‍💨😵‍💫

[keen saffron]

[smoky elm]

and APAC watches

[thorn shale]

[knotty quiver]

Travis Scott

[severe raft]

These maps will be removed from the seasons' map pool or game for some time?
Game, right? (Since there is copperfield)

[knotty quiver]

It affects tournaments aswell.

[severe raft]

Ok, thx (by saying "game" i meant all the modes, tournaments etc)

[crisp shore]

Mayan Ruins also please so I don't get stuck in buildings in cam mode

[severe raft]

XD but i like watching Mayan :'

[smoky elm]

Bruh… maps being removed from comp pool… big sad

[smoky needle]

And Black Goldville i got stuck so many times

[obtuse stirrup]

Lars issues xD

[violet echo]

weher todays stream

[cyan timber]

🫦

[urban river]

Congrats SLG btw, it was so close to not even playing the loser bracket, wishing you guys the best and hopefully can you make @analog osprey a NA champ :)

[cyan timber]

tuga power

[thorn shale]

Brazil power 🇧🇷 💥

[urban river]

abt to pull a Vini 21/22 UCL season

[atomic tartan]

It does not and he has no point.

In principle, increasing a server’s prize pool sends the wrong message that it is a better server than the others, regardless of how it’s carried out.

In practice he’s already making more money for winning when it comes to purchasing power just by being born in Europe. He literally already has a bigger cut of the prize pool, and still he wants more?

The only thing hes presented to support his case is the ugly combination of greed mixed in with the classic my server is better than yours. Sorry but hes going to have to do a bit better than that when hes asking for a handout

[patent quartz]

i believe you are ill my friend.
it's litteraly what a lot of top EU players think, not what i think on my own, i'm not out of my mind to the point of coming with stuff nobody else agrees on and claim it's the turth, it's not just me if you pay attention, unless you also can't keep up with a conversation?

[atomic tartan]

What part of ‘just because a lot of people repeating something over and over again doesn’t mean it’s right’ is too difficult a concept for you?

[thorn shale]

Dragon vs the EU server.
I love tournaments

[outer isle]

I stand with spitfire

[thorn shale]

I stand with DragonKRIEG

[analog osprey]

I stand with hatedfade my RedDevil

[latent olive]

In fairness you are reading a lot into this.

I have gone through all of Sp1fires posts and at no time did he argue that EU is a better server and therefore deserves more money. What he did say is that when you look at the picture overall, 7-15% of the players who take part on NA/APAC receive prize pool whereas on EU only 1-2% receive. Yes he does refer to Blitzstars whereby he states teams have been better overall statistically, but he never actually said EU is better give us more or words to that effect.

Whilst he initially did not make the point, he did further along whereby he stated, clearly, that we had 2 servers, we now have 1 and therefore it is logical to not only merge the players but also the prize pool. Seems a logical argument to me, but I do see that it can indeed send out the wrong message.

I am not saying its correct, nor am I saying that EU should get more prize fund I am merely pointing out there is no flaw to the logic.

Where a player lives has zero basis on the subject and is a parameter you brought into the mix, which is fundamentally flawed. Not everyone in EU since the merger resides in EU, some players come from former CIS central Asian countries and I bet they do not have massive purchasing power. Same as some EU nations, not everyone who lives in the EU is rich. Such an argument actually means the NA pool should be reduced, as the cost of living in NA is better than EU, but that fails to take into account Central & South America. The way you presented the cost of living argument is not how it works in practise. I for example live in Dubai, where the salaries are large and everyone thinks people here are rich, but these large salaries do not go as far as you think, when you consider that a basic pizza hut pizza is $50. Its all relative.

And in fairness, the comment about greed is rather below the belt and could apply equally to Sp1tfires and yourself.

[spark pumice]

what’s the equivalent of nationalism but for servers

[fluid pilot]

Assassin

I also stand with _DragonKRIEG.

[urban river]

serverism

[atomic tartan]

The 1-2% part is completely irrelevant to the point of increasing the prize pool. The only way to fix that would be to change the distribution on EU such that Top 16 or even 32 teams get a cash prize, to achieve 7-15% of registered players getting money.

The logic does not hold up when geographically EU and Russia are just one region to begin with. You want to bring SA into this, fine. Consider the NA server a merged server from the very beginning. Do you see how ridiculous things quickly get when we go arbitrarily moving the goal posts?

The entire cost of living argument is an exercise in arbitrarily modifying the prize pool to elevate one server over the other, not a proposal to actually do it. I’ve said as much to 34 above. It turns out Spitfire doesn’t like it so much when other people suggest things that don’t work out so well for him.

As for below the belt hits or whatever, I can at least say not once did I trash 2 servers in 1 sentence. I don’t know why you’re defending this guy. Just because he lives in an EU server….mutual admiration society where they all tell each other they’re the best does not mean they’re right about it. That’s how cults think.

[crisp shore]

The only way to fix that would be to change the distribution on EU such that Top 16 or even 32 teams get a cash prize
That will inevitably raise the prize pool of the EU server if you consider the top 4 having the same prize pool as both NA and APAC in this sense actually.

[patent quartz]

i'm afraid to let you know that your monthly subscription to stupidity has expired and that you shall now use your brain and come up with actually relevant arguments other than "This guy is... when it doesn't go its way... idk why u defend him" and realize that your idea just makes it even more unfair for those top4 teams having a tremendously hard time making it past top8 which would see their reward lowered to the profit of top16 teams, and stupid idea that perfectly fits your whole criticism of my person (with no proofs of anything btw lol, you don't know me), come up with realistic arguments and facts, or a solution to the overall problem of this conversation, otherwise do not mention my name in any of your essays thx.

[thorn shale]

Chelsea >>>>

[thorn shale]

Tbh I’m seeing a lot of tears from you, I think you’re gonna flood the chat if you don’t stop 💀

[split cosmos]

🚨

[thorn shale]

OPA 💪💪💪

[patent quartz]

no, i'm open to talk, but at least bring something relevant and not out of blitz context, what does the cost of living have to do with Blitz cashprize

[atomic tartan]

You literally spent a day trashing the other servers, and then directly insulted me twice. You're only lying to yourself if you think me not knowing you as a person is actually my loss lmao

[chilly hemlock]

I think this has gone on enough

[solid pine]

Oh good lord it was still going

[chilly hemlock]

An NA vs EU match would be spicy right now though

[zenith egret]

🚑

[thorn shale]

Run it back 2019 style? 😉😏

[chilly hemlock]

Yeah. I’d be so happy just watching an offline again man. It’s been such a long time and I think everyone would enjoy the hype around it

[neon thistle]

:v

[chilly hemlock]

Like yeah there’s the meh beginning qualifiers but then it heats up with pro season top 8. Then we elevate to the final 4. Winners of that get the title of server champions and then maybe top 2 all get flown out on an all expenses paid trip to say London or Paris for a 6 team offline for $150k

Would be amazing

[split cosmos]

no one support apac so sad

[proud holly]

🤯

[thorn shale]

the dream of every blitz player

[zenith egret]

😭

[thorn shale]

🔥 One can dream

@chilly hemlock another thing I’ve thought of that would be a fun addition to the comp scene would be if WG added a tournament Hall of Fame for each server.
.
They could select half a dozen nominees at the start of every season and make it a player voted thing where the results are revealed at the end of each season.

[pastel vapor]

It would be fun for EU server and NA server to watch this season's top1 teams play bo9 or bo11 match 🍿

[crisp shore]

ahem

[fluid pilot]

+1

[latent olive]

Again, you seem to read a lot into this and into what I am saying.

I have never said I support an increase in prize funding in respect of any server and I certainly do not support any server having prize funding reduced. I never said the argument was valid, nor did I support it. What I did say and will continue to say is that the base logic behind the argument is not flawed.

The logic being, you had 2 servers with a pool of $5 now you effectively merge that into 1 server, then logic dictates you now have $10. Thats logic, not reason.

And I take exception to the comment that I am somehow part of some mutual admiration society that considers EU to be the best and part of a cult. I am one of the main supporters of inclusivity, across all servers and across all demographics. I have long argued that the EU/CIS migration is not necessarily a bad thing and should be embraced. At no time I have I ever put EU on some kind of pedestal or made out its the best server, a point I raised clearly in an earlier post.

[split cosmos]

oh sorry yes, only wild support apac 🤝🫶

[pastel vapor]

Apac server op bro

[crisp shore]

-ID- condemnation on my stream tomorrow spared 😏

[latent olive]

I support APAC and all that it brings to the game ❤️ Just cant stream it anymore due to timings 😦

[outer isle]

Another reason to increase prizes, at least for me, is mainly related to the number of teams who gets their goals. Let me explain, the path to a certain goal here is way way harder than NA and APAC, and many teams if they don't get what they are aiming for (EU) they simply disband. With this I want to say that here the commitment you give to achieve a certain thing should be worthier rather in other servers, simply because, in NA, the amount of team which are taking part in the competition is so small that you can stay afk and still get high ranks, and looking at how you play that is just a fact. So that's another reason to increase prizes in EU.

[split cosmos]

@crisp shore @latent olive XD thank you so much we'll be back with better performances 🤝

[pastel vapor]

Yep, I've been playing the game for about 5-6 years and I think I spent a maximum of 15 euros on this game. Only 2 people in our team have STRV and they also live in better countries abroad XDDDD. And I usually play the game between 50-45fps.

[crisp shore]

you can stay afk and still get high ranks
Definitely can't say that for the APAC server

[latent olive]

That has always been the case on EU, regardless of migration/integration of CIS.

When you compare this Spring Season to last Spring Season, before and after migration, the overall numbers have not increased that significantly. In 2022 EU had 256 spaces and 122teams registered. This season, 516 spaces and 153 registered. The overall increase is not as big as one initially thinks in real terms and is not a valid way to justify an increase tbh

[green elk]

bro yall trying to just get more money, cope it ait gonna happeen, so have ur wet dream of more blitz cash cuz u need it so much elsewhere

[pastel vapor]

2022 Spring season have 30 afk team, this season not have afk teams. Top8 and 16 have 6-7 Russian teams in total.

[outer isle]

I'm not talking about moneys buddy. I'm willing to get more rewards for lower echelons (top8-16-20) which have tiny prizes in a certain way, you know.

[fluid pilot]

Guys can I get paid for my zero set wins in pros? I tried really hard and should be rewarded for my efforts.

[rocky crystal]

I agree, in order for more percentage of teams to receive prize pool, it requires distribution to top16-32 teams on EU. Increasing the pool wont do much besides more money for the “1-2%”

[crisp shore]

Also it's another slippery slope to fall into when speaking about "worthiness" and "difficulty of the path to goal". On paper the numbers may suggest one thing, but the relative competition will suggest the other, plus all the other outside factors such as time zones, culture, ping etc.

[green elk]

or just let the russians play on there knock of russian blitz installer and play for money there idk, or let eu have a little more money since its 2 servers now

[outer isle]

And what a top32 monetary pool should be? 15-20€? Basically a McDonald's meal, that's awesome

[atomic tartan]

Those 2 servers were originally split by geography, because Russia has enough territory to cover every time zone known to man and then some. The NA server has both South America and North America, effectively it has been equivalent to a "merged server" from the very beginning. The logic of combining two servers originally determined by geography being justification for combining their prize pools is not only flawed, but baseless.

I wasn't talking about you in regards to the things you're taking exception to. That was meant for the people parroting the server pride line this entire time. Like look at the other kid who literally just said "the commitment you give to achieve a certain thing should be worthier rather in other servers, simply because, in NA, the amount of team which are taking part in the competition is so small that you can stay afk and still get high ranks, and looking at how you play that is just a fact."

In what world do you people seriously think you can say something like that and be surprised when you get taken to the cleaners?

[thorn shale]

a ticket for a happy meal would be awesome tbh

[merry blade]

McDonald’s children’s meal for the whole squad is nice

[rocky crystal]

U dont like a mcdonalds meal 😰

[latent olive]

Whilst there is merit in arguing 2 servers into 1 should also represent a merge of the prize pool, there are other factors that need to be taken into consideration.

Prize funds are generally made up from sponsors and no doubt Russian sponsors made a large apart of that, which is no longer the case for obvious reasons. You then have WG relocation due to geopolitical situation, which most likely increases overhead and reduces available revenue, revenue that is most likely prioritised to development and getting more players into the game. Economic considerations therefore play a large role in prize funds can be

[outer isle]

I like McDonald's but I'd rather get 5 pizza margherita than a single precrast burger with concrete fries

[green elk]

well why would wg do it anyway , they were asking for this bullsht to occur, they dont use ther brains, alot of russian nationals moved 2 NA and eu anyways so just let russia stay and bedone with it its a kids game so why so much cringe over it and its little money prize

[urban river]

BK shits on McDo tbf

[merry blade]

McDonald fries are s tier tho

[rocky crystal]

😋😋😋

[outer isle]

Yeah they're not bad but you know, here I have much better food 😀

[urban river]

BK fries with cheddar & bacon ain’t ok with what you just said
S Tier is theirs

[merry blade]

Well yeah, there is a reason we’re called the hamburger country lol

[green elk]

mcdonalds sucks, culvers is were it is at

[latent olive]

I prefer tacos, which you cant really get in dubai 😦

[chilly hemlock]

I agree. Any and all past achievements should be honored

[outer isle]

Taco bell 💀

@urban river ehm u sure about that? 👀

[urban river]

anyways, le french Cassoulet > all

[fluid pilot]

I love happy meals

[harsh quail]

Hi

[green elk]

hi baby baby blue

[terse shard]

Pls... Cereal the best fast food ffs

[thorn shale]

If it’s like NBA/NFL and you had to pick 10 nominees, who would your 10 first round ballot nominees for an NA All-Time HOF? 👀

[knotty quiver]

What did I just see

Send it to me in dms, was nice image.

I received it, Ty.

[atomic tartan]

TJ
TJFbleu
Theo
Teej
Teddy
.
more TJ variants
.
10. tanner

[harsh quail]

💀

[chilly hemlock]

All time: Moe, you, me, tanner, Mike, concep, korah, dragon, panda and Assassin would be my NA all time list I think?

Obviously this is front loaded and skewed towards 2015-2018 but it’s what I know the most. I don’t really know who’s doing things now

[chilly hemlock]

Nice of you to include Teddyvball

[pastel vapor]

I need team in NA bro

[thorn shale]

Nah, jtag20, sapphire glitter, platterrules123, blue, derpy narwhals, Seal ( 7 core)

[chilly hemlock]

You can have your own list

Everyone can have their opinion

[peak terrace]

1-10: TJFgoat

[fluid pilot]

DarkMagicianGirl

[thorn shale]

I forgot about dmg

[chilly hemlock]

There’s plenty that are left out

[civic glacier]

Yo Panda made the list lesgoooo

[peak terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-james-lebron-stare-stare-justpiot-gif-25311591

[autumn plover]

Cringe

[thorn shale]

💔

[neon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gif-drake-gif-26307972

[civic glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-clap-drake-clap-drake-meme-nba-gif-23631290

[peak terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-aubrey-happy-jobwelldone-well-gif-15132630

[neon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-black-guy-gif-17915341

[barren imp]

recency bias is real 😞 wonder how many people around that actually watched the first blitz cups

[chilly hemlock]

I figured he should given Grim, Pramo and Rgn success

[civic glacier]

tru tru factual statement

[chilly hemlock]

Someone else needs to make a top 10 for na or eu. Let’s get some creativity going here

[proud holly]

OAT or past 2 years

[chilly hemlock]

All time

[rocky crystal]

@harsh quail youre my goat

[barren imp]

let's not forget pramo's goat _34Chromosomes

[quick robin]

BurningPeak31 either tbh

[fluid pilot]

I personally like whale legs

[spark pumice]

This community is offline starved. Watching twister cups and offlines from 2016-19 were what got me interested in comp and tier ten to begin with I could only imagine the growth on all servers following the return of cross server play.

[thorn shale]

Interesting list, but here’s what I’d go for all time HOF (and order doesn’t matter):

Moe
Dragon
Raik
Assassin
Fatness
TJ
Hatedfate
Tanner
Fishy
Mike

[thorn shale]

Sadly most people from the 2016 & 2017 NA Twisters didn’t stay at top level for more than a year. I think my list reflects the Top 10 people who had the best combo of longevity & dominance at the top

[barren imp]

right on, i meant that the people voting will have recency bias - i think your list is reasonable

[harsh quail]

W

[solid pine]

joins comp in 2019 to go for fall season offline
wins fall season with no offline 🗿

[fluid pilot]

Hi top g

[civic glacier]

Where is tan tan

[analog osprey]

U are crazy

[thorny carbon]

I’m sure it’s entirely correct to consider it a merge when there’s still a large amount of players playing on RU, I mean Tank Blitz. Not sure how much wargaming’s revenue has been cut regarding their separation with Lesta Games. So I’m not certain the 5+5=10 argument holds true. It could be closer to a 5+X=Y

Addendum: Read the conversation was mentioned later on

[latent olive]

Its a presumption, just like the presumption that with the migration everyone who wrote in Cyrillic is automatically Russian. We presume that there was a total merge, when what actually happened was most likely more closer to a 25-30% player increase. We presume that there is no RU server anymore, because that is what the press releases etc say, because that now resides with Lesta Games and is called tanks Blitz, so it is easier for us to think along the lines or a merger rather than an integration of X number of players.

That however doesnt make the base logic flawed, it just means that when you start to actually pierce the veil there is a lot more to it than simply there was 2 now there is 1.

[harsh quail]

hi guys

[spark pumice]

3 years later and you’re still holding out for one too 🫡🫡

[thorn shale]

Lowkey I can see a reality where there is never an offline again

[gilded marsh]

tj can I take you to an offline 😘

@thorn shale

[spark pumice]

yeah :/ it’s sad but undeniable how much less time and resources have to go into setting up an online season final compared to the logistical nightmare of hosting an offline. I asked a few months ago when that dev QnA was running and got an answer along the lines of “I hope so but I’m not sure” from tolyan but like you said i wouldn’t be surprised if higher ups have decided it’s not something worth investing in and the vague answers are just appeasement

[knotty quiver]

Gg APA, amazing show.

[steel shell]

ggs to apa, rjcts

[opaque heart]

It was cool, guys. All the teams

Thanks for the games ❤️

[urban river]

APA remontada to face RJCTS which are impressive

[vale helm]

[long temple]

@thorny carbon and @simple tusk ggs boiz. Show us some awesome blitz tmrw😎🍿

[thorny carbon]

[outer isle]

@vale helm 🫂

[vale helm]

[obtuse stirrup]

On fire

[vale helm]

ggs 🤝

[cyan timber]

uni about to receive 1 year worth of rent

[thorn shale]

@opaque heart will you help me with a tournament matter? It’s really important, please and thank you.

[proud holly]

🤨

[neon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-upset-mad-angry-disappointed-gif-20835985

[steep berry]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-upset-mad-angry-disappointed-gif-20835985

[civic glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-upset-mad-angry-disappointed-gif-20835985

[jovial swallow]

I diagree

Dragon, Moe, Fishy, Fatness, hated, Raik, TJ, Tanner, concep, Assassin

[proud holly]

It was funnier the first time

[harsh ember]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-upset-mad-angry-disappointed-gif-20835985

[thorn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/xannyscomet-gif-24784015

[analog osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mesut-ozil-praying-prayer-muslim-ozil-praying-gif-13288034

[narrow meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/brezilya-brazil-flag-brazil-gif-23454207

[neon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-upset-mad-angry-disappointed-gif-20835985

[harsh ember]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-uporot-brazil-gif-13264739

[fluid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-brazil-gif-22561984

[red fern]

Slg best clan ever

[sinful crest]

GGS to slg 🥇

[supple hearth]

🤡

[fast echo]

Still dreaming about good team

[urban river]

@analog osprey 💪🏼

[narrow meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/hexa-go-brazil-brasil-vai-supporter-gif-12099265

[peak terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/vini-neymar-paqueta-dance-brazil-brazil-football-goal-gif-25209715

[thorn shale]

@analog osprey congratulations!!!!!! SLG!

[tawdry inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-brazil-gif-22561984

[thorn shale]

@analog osprey parabens pelos jogos

[mild ibex]

slg on top 👑

[harsh quail]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-rogan-shocked-what-surprised-gif-16534811

[thorny carbon]

[vale helm]

[neon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-upset-mad-angry-disappointed-gif-20835985
No longer the goat

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/brazil-soccer-world-cup-gif-26438165

[spark pumice]

two sets to game 7 and its not even grand finals my god spring season is delivering

[terse plover]

GG SLG

[median lodge]

LFGGGG slg hope u guys take the szn!!!! @analog osprey

[plucky sinew]

congratulations SLG

[narrow meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/brazil-brazil-flag-brazil-carnival-3d-gifs-artist-gif-18531014

[autumn plover]

Lmao

[urban river]

I gotta say, this was one of the most intense tie breaker I’ve ever seen @sinful crest respect

[thorn shale]

This has been the best season I’ve ever played in the most entertaining games I’ve ever watched

[patent quartz]

Neymar 2.0

[neon thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/792409997945995285/1109315192254382151/image.png?width=537&height=671

[thorn shale]

@analog osprey well played bro

[sinful crest]

Lmao yes one of the most competitive szns I played on NA sht was crazy

[urban river]

DaSilva making us proud, SLG is on the verge of delivering a huge season and thank you @nocturne veldt for the commentary!

[analog osprey]

❤️❤️

[fast echo]

I hope vitality in cs will win

[red fern]

Give me that in an international tournament and blitz becomes the best game ever created

[split cosmos]

@fast echo cs?

[sinful crest]

Gogoogogoooo Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[keen saffron]

[hardy delta]

Brazil is NA's last hope

[thorn shale]

[autumn plover]

Brazil moment

[deft cargo]

Proud to be Brazilian today

[median lodge]

Slg deserves this szn with how much work they’ve been putting in and the progress they’ve been making

[fluid pilot]

The Brazilians woke up and decided they wanted to win the server

[civic glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/checo-checo-perez-f1-formula1-what-gif-20253402

[thorn shale]

🇧🇷

[urban river]

https://tenor.com/view/coutinho-gif-18155922

[split cosmos]

Zywoo for major🏆🏆🏆@fast echo

[analog osprey]

🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹

[hardy delta]

I think we should up the NA competitive season prize pool.

[keen saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-mgr-gif-24955203

[neon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-phillips-instiagtor-gif-22728638

[sullen lion]

[deft cargo]

🇧🇷

[torpid atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-vestário-dançando-2002-gif-11113128

[jovial ibex]

Ggs SLG and JKR

[thorn shale]

SLG are champs tbh, nothing but love to the whole team @analog osprey 💕

This is my cat btw

[fast echo]

Should be insane

[narrow meteor]

vamos

[urban river]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldinho-jumping-licking-tongue-out-gif-15286634 @keen saffron

[thorn shale]

Oii

[autumn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/neymar-neyney-neymar-jr-njr-psg-gif-17981619

[modest narwhal]

Kkkkkk

[torpid atlas]

Brazil MOMENT, lets go!!!!

#TrazPraCasa

[mental quartz]

wao

[analog osprey]

Chelsea deserves ucl spot next season

[dense imp]

[terse plover]

beat the top 1 NA, with 150 average ping. brazilian power bro

[torpid atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/cafu-copa-do-mundo-brasil2002-brazil-world-cup-gif-25107266

[urban river]

Well, let’s not get the piss there, avoiding the Championship is enough

[mental quartz]

brazil just built diff bro @analog osprey Vamos Broski

[median lodge]

Slg ftw

[solid pine]

@narrow meteor

[urban river]

good night guys, hoping for SLG to be crowned tomorrow

[sonic ether]

🤯

[modest narwhal]

200+

[narrow meteor]

perfect response

[thorn shale]

Felipe Massa ftw

[torpid atlas]

my last gif for the day

https://tenor.com/view/ayrton-senna-brazil-race-formula1-gif-19352632

[civic glacier]

bruh thats Checo

[terse plover]

https://tenor.com/view/brazil-brazil-soccer-dance-brazil-samba-gif-12890209

[spring gale]

dasilva cooked up a 7 course meal tn

[neon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/piquet-senna-prost-cry-cry-about-it-gif-26084380

[thorn shale]

Massive doesn't know anything abt formula 1

[keen saffron]

dasilva bringing that portugal special for us tn

[bronze lily]

@sinful crest I think that you may need to consider renaming to JaviTheConquered

[harsh ember]

LOL

[thorn shale]

Clbc lixo

[solid pine]

LOL

[atomic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/formula1-f1-tantrum-crybaby-ferrari-gif-12235412

[analog osprey]

In 4h I have a football match I’m gonna enjoy

[mental quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/kimi-raikkonen-kimi-raikkonen-fire-extinguisher-f1-gif-19527906

[peak terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-drake-oh-ahhh-gif-13656709

[thorn shale]

Honestly I think we lost bc it’s the TJ spring season curse

[last cedar]

0.0

[autumn plover]

🧢

[sonic ether]

Too many caps

[torpid atlas]

this 183 bot is working hard this night

[harsh ember]

Your dusty ass got rolled by 7 chad Brazilians on 200 ping 😭

[narrow meteor]

its because you kicked me and DJ of course (we totally didnt get 4th)

[neon thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/792409997945995285/1109317189485469696/image.png?width=537&height=671

[solid pine]

Honestly I think we lost cuz we put fero in a heavy

[thorn shale]

if the spring szn curse continues, then what other curses continues?

[terse plover]

the internet stopped here at home, how was the JKR game? 🤏

[bronze lily]

very good set

[thorn shale]

Nah I played well the 2nd set don’t give me that

[thorn shale]

menos é mais

[last cedar]

You didn't pray to the baguette gods enough, so they cursed you with bad rng.

[autumn plover]

I want to see Al replace comp players and CCs

[mental quartz]

i heard the bazillions called in the Ac130

[barren imp]

what a set SHEEEESH

[sweet rune]

boa noite

[brittle bloom]

Wtf heat 2-0 celtics

[torpid atlas]

shhhhhhsh

3 mauses are coming

[plucky sinew]

[narrow meteor]

8th seed ftw, they got inspired by SLG

[sinful crest]

Lmao give me the rename cooldown please ASAp

[autumn plover]

Imagine an actual AI team vs SLG and SLG lost

[red fern]

🤨

[mental quartz]

🗿

[sonic ether]

Slg going Batman

[spark pumice]

reverse colonized

[brittle bloom]

SLG vs JKR is closer and more intense than that 8th seed effed up grand finalists in Boston 🤣🤣

[autumn plover]

I miss the old days 2015-2018. I wish I can go back

[zinc saddle]

assassin u retired?

[sinful crest]

Hell nah lmao I’m going to an offline then I’ll gladly call it quits

[analog osprey]

15 scrims the week

[thorn shale]

@harsh quail

[fluid pilot]

@harsh quail

[harsh quail]

Hello chat

[solid pine]

Viva la Brazil 🇧🇷

[sullen marsh]

[sonic ether]

Poor origin being forgotten

[mental quartz]

@sonic ether origin bout to cook up some 7 maus strat with cap advantage at the back

[sinful crest]

First time NA has been crazy in awhile good luck to both teams

[autumn plover]

Brazil king and queen must be very proud of their children

[barren imp]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[keen saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/sex-now-sexy-toy-freddy-five-nights-at-freddys-scott-cawthon-gif-17210953

[barren imp]

nice clutch group

[keen saffron]

Thx brother, this season has been an insane one for us. I am glad to be back for it, especially with my fellow Brazilians and DaSilva 🇧🇷 🇵🇹

[barren imp]

yessir!! yall are doing great, good luck tomorrow

[sinful crest]

Dasilva with eu win and NA win????

[tawdry inlet]

Hopefully

[autumn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-one-kiss-kick-gif-26901014

[keen saffron]

He said he will be running off with all of our money since we can't get it ourselves. I'd like to report my teammate for unprofessional behavior.

[sinful crest]

Let me make a phone call. I’ll get back to you with assistance ‼️‼️

[rocky crystal]

[odd wolf]

time to make memes about javier

[proud holly]

JaviTheConqueror 💪 💪 💪

[sinful crest]

JaviTheConqueror will return 🤫

[analog osprey]

@opaque heart the rule is right no money in Brazil

[outer isle]

Sì

[opaque heart]

No money... So I was surprised to see Brazilian team, btw

[jagged lark]

mmm tourney on website didnt come yet?

[stable ginkgo]

https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/#/tournament/657/description/

[jagged lark]

ah i see owo thanks

[stable ginkgo]

issue from the channel, it will live shortly
u can watch the other vid

[jagged lark]

https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/streams/303/#/active

yeah :"v my eyes didnt enough for wakeup at 00:00 midnight. not like before

[solemn pivot]

looks fine to me

[shy geyser]

How is apathy so good

[thorn shale]

😂 he was just too quick

[crisp shore]

Huge congratulations to RISQ for winning the spring season! They've played their hearts out, and so do GV tonight. It was very close for them but they tried their best. Also commiserations to N0MAD and -ID- for coming this far in the top 4 but we hope to see you back stronger next season.

[open latch]

Where is jkr?

[thorn shale]

🇧🇷

[latent olive]

Ooof that’s still going 😱

[patent quartz]

tbh u really sound like a cartoon vilain at this point

[hollow karma]

In an alternate universe Dr. Doofenshmirtz finally caught Perry.

[outer isle]

I have a large collection of these because they are super funny 😂
Best laugh in wotb community

[open latch]

Im waiting them

[outer isle]

These have copyright, you have to ask fugit for permission first

[maiden flame]

😂

[keen saffron]

"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message " 🤝

[autumn plover]

Sounds like Money is not real, it’s digital number or piece of paper

[thorn shale]

so that means we can have your money, seems pretty cool to me

[faint scaffold]

Питер#8909 was muted.

Igris#0086 was muted.

[jagged siren]

Hello, I have watched the entire stream of the 2 last days but only got 4 container for the 2 days, who could I contact to solve this please?

[thorn shale]

EvenSteven would be proud 🫡

[hollow fiber]

Were you logged on on the EU wotb website with the blue timer showing? and it said you completed progress on both?

[thorn shale]

[vivid citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-terra-ust-message-money-gif-23530621

[solid pine]

I will watch the aftermath of tonight with great interest 😈

[jagged siren]

Yea and the container appeared on the website but in game I have received almost nothing

[proud holly]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-joker-batman-here-we-go-gif-3430376

[solid pine]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-batman-dark-knight-yikes-heath-ledger-gif-20521422

[spark pumice]

put it towards an offline ??

[sinful crest]

Nah give to someone on the team who can just send it to others

[proud holly]

^

[cyan timber]

give it all to silva should be enough for 1 month rent in swis

[pastel vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/pablo-escobar-gif-21782494

[quick robin]

remarkable 🥰

[fair patio]

There is some technical issue? Stream wont start....

[tender prism]

something is happening?

[crisp shore]

It will begin very soon as tolyan said

[proud badger]

no one can hear tolyan if strea does not start on portal....how should we know what she said

[latent frigate]

is it in any time zone on earth?

[sinful crest]

OMG where stream my keys 😭

[tender prism]

the boxes are leaving me 😭😭

[thorn shale]

My Boxes 😭

[proud holly]

Watch LastAfk’s pov

[restive kettle]

Awesome Finals

[harsh quail]

W

[barren imp]

watch the other stream, russian stream is working
https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/streams/684/#/active

[proud badger]

i don´t need that useless stream....

[remote basin]

And we don’t need your useless presence

[thorny carbon]

Come watch lastafk stream guys

[thorn shale]

@bronze lily no spamming.

[bronze lily]

@harsh quail hi

[thorn shale]

Go for tortik and artik stream, no any technical problems

[harsh quail]

Bye

[bronze lily]

Mommmmmmmmmyyyyyyyy

[proud holly]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1107338441638809690/1109552270812651713/IMG_4340.jpg

[opaque heart]

I’m square

[thorn shale]

[knotty quiver]

Congrats APA, amazing games.

[sinful crest]

apá Dynasty 🐍

[thorn shale]

apa

[proud holly]

DaSilvaDaConqueror

[sinful crest]

factual

[crisp shore]

Huge congratulations to APA! The last couple of battles are ruthless and there is no doubt you've worked your socks off tonight. Huge commiserations to RJCTS as you have infused an exceptionally aggressive playstyle to the CW scene. Commiserations to EG- and AQVA, you have given us some amazing games. Thank you to all the other teams this season. It has been one of the most competitive seasons on the EU server. We hope to see you come back stronger next season!

[leaden belfry]

Massive congratulations to APA, coming back so strongly through the season, after nearly not making it. You brought it when it mattered most =)
Commiserations to RJCTS, AQVA, EG, you’ve all been fantastic.
To all the teams I got to stream this season, It’s been so wonderful watching this season, the games have been great. So thank you for that <3

[outer isle]

goat

[thorn shale]

Sewi

[pastel vapor]

😂😂😂

[tender prism]

well at least I have 4 containers, congratulations to the APA 🥳

[worn marten]

APA Era

[jagged oar]

Well played everyone! Was nice to see APA getting back to their level and showing such good stuff, congrats! Also shoutout to RJCTS for their super aggressive and creative strats challenging the passive meta of last seasons, was a pleasure to see. Closest top 4 we have had so far, but the whole top 8 was super competitive.

[proud holly]

uh, i dont think the meta on EU was that passive
maybe NA was but not EU

[pastel vapor]

The unexpected rush of the RJCTS were surprising and enjoyable to watch.

[knotty quiver]

Vano is the best yolo caller.

is a compliment!

[maiden flame]

Gg guys

[vale helm]

Thanks for support everyone

[knotty quiver]

[atomic raven]

THAT STREAM WAS A BIG SCAM!!! I was there since 19:30 waiting for the stream to begin. I get it there was some technical issues, but because of that it didnt count the watch time for rewars. Well it obviously didnt count after 21:10, so the only time it counted was about 45 minutes, even tho i was there for more than an hour. Of course i got only 4 containers!

[jagged oar]

chill, it will be compensated, like it was said on stream. As you didnt hear this, you cant have wasted that much time..

[atomic raven]

Aight

Well i love the fact that Alexandra plays battles without ammunition so the commentary is as good as that. 😂 Nvm u good bro, thanks for your reply, im used from big servers that noone replies, so i had to pump it up

[proud holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1038719613002850404.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[frail barn]

Recruitment to the t8 server СНГ

[fluid pilot]

The real reward for watching the stream are the games themselves.

[remote basin]

It’s not about crates, it’s about entertainment

[solid pine]

It’s not about the crates, it’s about the friends we made along the way

[leaden belfry]

It’s clear you didn’t watch a second of this stream, so please refrain from sharing unbased opinions on it. If you had watched, you’d have known about the promised compensation, and you’d know that Alexandra wasn’t the one that did the commentary. You’re just there for the rewards, which you already made clear with your rant, so no reason to then lie and trashtalk further

[crisp shore]

It's all about the keys spongebobrainbow.gif

[leaden belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/have-you-seen-my-keys-brandon-kennedy-ck-productions-did-you-see-my-keys-im-looking-for-my-keys-gif-17279763

[atomic raven]

Yo i spent so much money on this beautiful even though nonworking game that few chests wouldnt change it. Have been with the game from almost the biggining and know that the devs etc. have no clue how it works. As said N90 was alright and the girls just for good aura 😂

[leaden belfry]

That’s not what you said in any way, shape or form, might be worth reading your own comments before trying to backpaddle, and I know you’re not referring to previous things you’ve said because that rant was your first message on this server

If the crates were that unimportant to you, the whole rant doesn’t make sense to begin with

Anyhow, moving on; good luck to Origin and SLG tonight - I’m afraid I won’t watch it live (timezones…), but I will watch it back in the morning =)

[atomic raven]

Broooo i cant 😂

[warm pasture]

Keep in mind u came to the official server to speak ur mind about an issues addressed on the stream tolyan apologized and everything was solved, and MM has nothing to do with tournaments….

[atomic raven]

@leaden belfry Ur right, ur right. Got to say im sorry for the first comment and that i didnt listen to the stream, other stuff about devs etc. are true tho. Having this a bit of fame, got to tell you what everybody says, the mm is absolutely broken and no, players that have been playing this game for a long time doesnt want begginers that stay at the spawn whole game, and few battles with bot mm for them is not enough to at least learn that they have joystick/keybord. Have a great night 😂

[proud holly]

Bro wrote “Have a great night” like he actually said something 😆

[crisp shore]

Well

[warm pasture]

This wouldnt be blitz without the new players tbh i dont mind it easy farm and keeps the game going

[atomic raven]

Actually in other games/servers i have never experienced that someone would reply, pretty amazed by that

[tidal aurora]

Can we go back to the EU prize pool raise debate? It was a whole lot more interesting than reading this. :/

[warm pasture]

Its amaunet shes always around somewhere plus shes active.so she replies when she can

[atomic raven]

To be honest its not very fun to have to wait for adults to come back from work to win at least 6/10 battles. I dont ask for great superhyped players, just for players that have more battles. And having these begginers in team and nonbeginners in enemy aint that fun anyway 😑

[light vector]

I not sure why I see mm debate in tournaments chat,so yeah I agree with@tidal aurora to go back to EU prize pool raise debate

[warm pasture]

Players with more battles wont solve ur issues in pubs or tournaments, there are noobs at every level. If ur having issues as is then change ur game play style to fit ur current situation and be adaptable

[leaden belfry]

First of, I don’t work for wargaming, I’m just calling you out on the things you say and then calling you out when you’re trying to twist your own words to suddenly say something different, when you’re going out of your way to insult Alexandra and making assumptions of the content of a stream you’ve now admitted to not having watched

Second, you’re now trying to just derail the convo into omg mm is so bad and players are potato - this is the tournament chat, and nothing to do with that

So I suggest you give it a rest, and move on

[leaden belfry]

Not sure which convo is more exhausting, tbh 😂

[warm pasture]

Is $20,000 not enough for a mobile game ? I think $50,000 for summer is insane tbh

[leaden belfry]

Tolyan did say on stream today that for summer season, all servers will have the same prize pool

So for now, prize pools will remain the same

[leaden belfry]

Same, autumn and spring were supposed to be the big ones 👀

[light vector]

At least it related to tournaments chat 🙂 but I do say 20k is more then enough for a mobile game.unless the demand be higher

[atomic raven]

Yeah, yeah i know. Well actually it got better after few years i remember having 18 loses in row about 4 years ago. And no the game style, whatever you play it just doesnt depend on only 2 good players in team, they just wont win the game its 7vs7

[leaden belfry]

I remember back in the day when we just had one season. Then we got two, now four 😂

I love a good tour game, but even as streamer it’s a little exhausting

I don’t know how you guys do it as players, with even more time going into it

[tidal aurora]

I think we should be grateful WG provides Tournaments. With some prizes even

[leaden belfry]

Oh for sure

Definitely don’t lessen the tours

[warm pasture]

Granted the demand shouldnt be higher if u win 1st places its $750 a player on a 10 person team thats crazy good for a mobile game. And consider ur not required to spend money on this game to be good 70% of the comp meta is ftp so imagine each player on a team getting $1800 for first place during summer

[leaden belfry]

I’m just admiring pro tour player commitment tbh

[light vector]

Tournaments was supposed to be something special, having 4 tournaments is kinda make is less special If you understand what I mean,I like tournaments to be something unique.not something regularly

[leaden belfry]

At the same time, when it was like that, people kept asking for more seasons

[leaden belfry]

Is that still the case though? I mean, technically, you’re not wrong, but the current meta sees a lot of paid for tanks

Or got lucky with tanks, but you catch my drift

I don’t think a F2P team would have won this season anywhere

[warm pasture]

I think having 4 is way too much in a week during the season i spend 12-16 hours slamming my team with scrims and practices out side if tourney time just to get top 16-12 imagine top 4-8 dedication is key and skill of course. @leaden belfry and it depends u can out dpm a strv with a 113 which is still meta and e5s counter as well as vk72 or 60tp to a mle so it depends theres counters to every thing

[light vector]

That the point.it won't be unique anymore if it gonna happen regularly, it most stay unique to be special.

[atomic raven]

Actually i have to get a bit of credit to wargaming workers. When players in our community used to like these pro tournaments they used throw some themselves and wg agreed on some rewars from them to the winners, not everytime but sometimes, the rewars used to be pretty low, but at least some

[leaden belfry]

Even when you take skill level into account?

Looking at top 4 teams for example- if any were F2P, would they have a legit chance to win the thing?

[tidal aurora]

Lmao I watched some games for Top4 and on one map I counted 2 e5s and the rest were paid tanks. 🤣

[hearty tiger]

Every tank is free, just watch ads

[warm pasture]

@hearty tiger 5000 ads later

[leaden belfry]

Lolol

[light vector]

Yeah true, most tank I see where none tech tree tanks,you can argue they get the tank for free by luck or ads.but even if that is the case,there is no way all of them get thoes for free and even if they did.well ig it still not a tech tree avg f2p player

[tidal aurora]

But yeah even with paid tanks you have to be good as a team. Just having 7 STRVS not enough to carry any1 to the top.

[leaden belfry]

And by the time you watch enough ads and get that one tank, the tank you got isn’t meta anymore #T22flashbacks

[sinful crest]

Money being increased is a plus but don’t get money hungry for more money. At the end of the day you play for fun and to win not for the money get a job …

[leaden belfry]

^ that too, tbh

Us streamers have not much of a life for some weeks every season. We do get a thank you, but not paid or any such. We do it because we love the tour games

[atomic raven]

Ads are on phones only. Im pretty sure this game must earn money as hell, but the tournaments themselves are not watched pretty much. Thats why we get these containers to attract players like me. Thats why the prizes are so low...

[tidal aurora]

🤩 sounds like common sense

[leaden belfry]

I’ve said this before, but to me, tour games, especially top 8 and higher, are the pinnacle of gameplay. You don’t get to see that kind of team play in randoms and it’s just beautiful to watch 🥰

[light vector]

Well that a shame.thoes tournament game are absolutely awesome to watch,specially if the commentary is done by fugit

[leaden belfry]

That’s why I stream, but I reckon that’s also why you play - that kind of teamwork and cohesion

[hearty tiger]

No i play cuz i shoot gun and big boom

[leaden belfry]

Lol

[atomic raven]

To be honest, most of the players that play this game has no clue how the tactics work, they just like to play the game seeing it from their point of view. Why would you as a player that doesnt tryhard this game watch any youtuber/tournament stream? They just see few tanks shooting to the other but dont know whats happening actually, its not enjoyable. Notice that the most viewed games are not too tactically hard and not team-fight games.

[light vector]

Simple.it FUN(before you say,no I not a good player)

[hearty tiger]

Shut up nelson

[proud holly]

That could also mean each region has the same pool of (insert number). Whether that pool itself is improved… well I heard it was going to be 50k this summer so idk

Josh you literally are going to college to be a business major

[hearty tiger]

Imagine editing 4 times

[hollow fiber]

Is Nelson married to Karen?

[proud holly]

No I’m married to Jisoo

[hearty tiger]

WHAT

[proud holly]

tryna cash out on your family inheritance, doiiiii

[autumn plover]

No your not. Jisoo doesn’t date men

[atomic raven]

I can speak for myself. Me and my friend we did a tournament for more then 100 players (2vs2), we had to speak with each player about the tanks and time he had to play (it was pain, but enjoyed that), everybode enjoyed the tournament, players were really active and communicative, which is crazy for 100 people.
But nearly noone watched the streams. Players in this game like to play it, but not to watch it, especially the tournaments. Thats why the prizes are so low, literally there would be noone if there werent the rewards.

[proud holly]

wow i wish to be as intellgient as you one day 😍

[hearty tiger]

Nelson i am attracted to you

[proud holly]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-25588769

[bronze lily]

nzlifts_02

[solemn nexus]

Theres a screw loose in ur head

[proud holly]

Follow it

[bronze lily]

m0

[atomic tartan]

@hearty tiger what school?

[bronze lily]

@hearty tiger L major

[hearty tiger]

Villanova

[rare trellis]

Jizzoo who let u out of ur cage

[wanton mortar]

my bad

[bronze lily]

hi 4L

[rare trellis]

Sounds like a team that doesn’t exist tbh

[bronze lily]

b-b-b-but...

[rare trellis]

Sorry my bad I stole them

[bronze lily]

wheres my tryout bro

[fluid pilot]

Hi chat

[rare trellis]

Sorry we don’t like Italians.

[outer isle]

Watch our for you words.

[bronze lily]

nice english

[hearty tiger]

O right, snipedya doxed himself for me when we played ow2

[warm pasture]

Op

[proud holly]

🤌

[outer isle]

Thx, English is my first language

[delicate herald]

[bronze lily]

🐿️

[harsh quail]

hi

[bronze lily]

hi

[thorn shale]

Hi

[barren imp]

we begin!!
https://na.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/streams/338/#/active

[fluid pilot]

🙏

[sinful crest]

The slg plays on canal are so insane

[spring gale]

bruh that 3v3 clutch on canal

[deft cargo]

#trazpracasa 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[sinful crest]

GO GO GO Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Vamos reacion

[deft cargo]

🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 3-2

[torpid atlas]

#TrazPraCasa

[sinful crest]

GOOGO Brazil 4-2

[thorn shale]

🇧🇷