rating-battles

[fossil halo]

Restrict the 39%-44% players in ratings. Most of these players are just trolls ffs

[livid sandal]

To do that they also need to remove "Win 3 Rating Battles" mission from daily missions guess.

[fallen mortar]

i wouldnt mind that mission to be removed
also id love to have the toon missions to be removed i hate beeing forced into a toon

[keen moon]

Little_Wolfie#2612 was muted

[ornate spoke]

true when you sell your tank you cant do rating battles

[livid sandal]

Sorry, what do you actually wanted to say? Is that sth like "If you sell all your eligible tanks, you wont get that mission". If so, it is also well-known fact i guess. Newbies (who has no eligible tanks yet) won't get such missions. Or if you dont have any light tank in your garage you won't get "Win X games in a light tank" mission. So, actually implementing such thing is quite easy BUT still, not healthy imo. (you know, "probability curves")

Apart from that 39%-44% wr stuff, i don't like that "Win 3 Rating battles" mission especially if i am trying to grind a new tank. (You know, you cannot play ratings if your crew is not fully trained) (or if you didnt mount top modules, but i free exp. those, hence i don't care about that rule, whatever.)

[ornate spoke]

i selled my t9 amx 120 but the next day i still had a rated battle mission

[livid sandal]

While you don't have any other eligible tanks? Like any t7, t8 etc? If that is the case then those "controls" are not made daily i guess.

[ornate spoke]

no i only had t6 tank and other

[inner jackal]

That's your fault I guess

[elfin burrow]

You should also send these replays (if you record) to WG and create a ticket or something.
I think it might be more effective.

[vague canyon]

@ionic ember nice name boi

[ionic ember]

LoL, I made sure with him, and he finds it cool as well XD

[keen moon]

IUnstoppable#0001 was muted

[muted shuttle]

@ionic ember Please do not Name and Shame

[livid sandal]

Quick tip: do not sell a high tier tank unless u have researched and bought the next one. It is simply a waste of credits. In addition to that, sooner or later u want to continue from that line.

[rose path]

okay so what time does season end tomorrow (today GMT), could I speed run 400 points before then

[lime tinsel]

Actually, playing right before the season ends is pretty bad. Most people actually LOSE points. I didn't play, and don't plan on playing again, but I watched the number 10 guy on NA get greedy and now he's 13th, and everyone else close to 13th either gained almost no points or lost points. At this point it's better to count your losses rather than increase them, because that's more likely what's going to happen.

[vague canyon]

x)

[steady raptor]

Depends on your skill relative to the score you ground out.

Someone with lower skill who farmed a shed load of battles to push ratings score up yes - probably going to lose points as the MM candidate pool alters in size and structure.

Conversely, higher skilled player who played few battles and is lower down the leaderboard (maybe top of Gold fresh out of calibration) can likely zip pretty far along in the last few days/ hours of a season.

The first example is a hidden liability for the team and the second is a hidden bonus - in both cases the player's true skill being hidden behind a rating score... because rating scores (beyond a certain point) mostly reflect time invested and so don't adequately demarcate skill.

[lime tinsel]

Yes but at the top of the leaderboard 99% of players in or near the top 10 are most likely going to be more battle spammers than actually skilled players. It’s exactly why actual skilled players don’t play ratings because battle spammers with less skill will almost always stay on top since more battles = more opportunities to gain points. Provided ofc you have basic skills

[steady raptor]

Yep. A certain level of skill needed to reach Gold, Platinum and Diamond etc. but then it's battle count to grind score... and that's why ratings mode is currently not really a ratings mode per se lol

[gritty wolf]

Idk I'm just implying a little suggestion what about a new tab in the mission menu for rating for idk coins or rating medals you can use to buy rating camos or tanks or containers

[ornate spoke]

what? rating crates?

[ornate spoke]

so the season ends at 00:00 ?

[shadow ravine]

hey guys, can i use the coins i earn this season in the next one or they gonna reset after the season is over?
@inner jackal thnx for the info. cause i got by now about 5300 and actually there's nothing i find worth boying. i'd rather collect a bit more in the next season for a tank or something better

[inner jackal]

They won't reset but the next coin season won't come so fast

[gritty wolf]

Yeah but these missions are only available for the seasonal ratings like spring or summer and so on

[idle canyon]

Ey guys wich tank have you choose between action x progeto ir centurión Mark one ahh??

Guys??

[pale shadow]

AX or progetto

[idle canyon]

Oh thank then

[sharp path]

I chose Centurion

[plush hull]

I went for the ActionX as I am a noob and it's easiest to play , but if you are a good player I think you will have more fun in the progeto or even the centurion

[idle canyon]

Yeah that what I've heard

[sharp path]

Where rewards😂

[vast valve]

you are too impatient)

[rose path]

Welp, I tried to speedrun diamond today to clutch camo bc I thought season ends this weekend. Gassed out at 4868, was 4920 peak. Gave up 1hr before, knew I didnt have time 🙃

[sharp path]

Yes,Yes i am

[sharp path]

Hehe boi

[safe obsidian]

masochist

[vast valve]

Мasochist

[lone spruce]

cool

[ionic ember]

The camo + laser canon looks lit! 🔥

[wicked moat]

hey anyone else have an issue with the Platinum camo? I got the avatar and camo but camo doesnt appear in my items

[gritty wolf]

I believe you need to wait for the refresh tomorrow

[wicked moat]

thx will do - restarting game didnt work.... otherwise it will be a ticket!

[gritty wolf]

If that doesn't work ask the staff for help

[plain cliff]

Won't it just already be unlocked on your tanks?

[gilded edge]

It doesn’t appear in the items but for the most played tanks above 50 battles (one per tier max) already unlocked in the camos of that tank

[heavy sierra]

lorraine certificates will be add later to acc!?

[ornate spoke]

hello

[opaque edge]

Guys, what is the easiest way to find a tank which received Top-Notch camo?
Profile > Rating number, scroll down to see tank you played most in a Tier?

[gilded edge]

You just answered your question. Just one tank with the most battles (50 minimum) per tier will receive it.

[opaque edge]

OK, Cheers, I thought so just wanted to see if there is another "hack" for this 🙂

[sharp path]

How u got 2 camos got t10?

[tame marten]

@light cave do i have to do 30 ads (also person from different server had to do 3 ADS to get lorraine)

[light cave]

sure?

[tame marten]

cause i don’t want do 30 ads just like me did 2 months of pain on ratings and now 30 time pain for doing 33 ads (3 ads i got was 300 gold) @light cave

[inner jackal]

what are you on my guy?
your friend doesnt get lorraine for watching 3 ads, he gets some blueprints, far from the tank itself
as for you
be grateful u got some of those ads thingy cause some ppl, including me, didnt get them

[terse whale]

Yeah agreed,we want them too,but we didnt get any,u should be grateful mr @tame marten

[rose path]

Is that order random, also judging from the gold ribbon I think thats the cert for tank itself

[ornate spoke]

sorry for ping but is the order distributed randomly or do we have to do specific things

[light cave]

randomly 🙂

[inner jackal]

😔

[tame marten]

but i suffered too much for Lorraine fearless ;-;

[terse whale]

Me who:enjoy the game and didnt even care abt rating,patethic

[ornate spoke]

why, сестра, why do you have to hurt me like that

i want 1k gold too >:"(

[ionic ember]

I got the 1k gold thing, but would rather have medium 3! Still cool though! 🙂

[terse whale]

1k+1.5k golds,WEGEEEHHHHHHHH why yo du dis

[ornate spoke]

ikr???? ez 2.5k gold but its distributed randomly

[ember halo]

Best way to see this is you can't have everything
Just stay happy that at least some players got them

[sharp path]

Where 1.5k Gold? You get 350 Gold from the ads u have to watch,and that is not even special since everyone can warch those ads since forever

[terse whale]

50×30=1500
So 50 golds per day,but u do it for the whole 30 days+the 1k golds prize,so in total u get 2.5k golds

[gilded edge]

is that a pop up order some people got?

[sharp path]

U do it for seven,not thiety days. 50×7=350

[crystal skiff]

Imagine giving fearless for watching 30 ads,nice job wargaming 🤪

[opaque edge]

Fearless Lorraine has interclip faster by 0.5 of a second yes?

[manic tapir]

guess im lucky...

[honest dust]

Randomly distribute goodies? WG seems to have learned nothing from their M60 Desaster back in the days. Nice work

[opaque edge]

Dont see anything wrong with random gift. You either get it or not...

[sharp path]

Ehat is the next Order though

[manic tapir]

30 ads for 1k gold. free gold i must say
no complains tho

[rose path]

Fearless or just standard Lorraine???

okay im confused now, did Alex just say LFs were given out randomly as orders? Whether or not you actually grinded it?

[gilded edge]

I think it was just orders with gold and booster rewards @rose path no fearless for 30 ads...

[ripe copper]

For real?, 30 ads for a luchs?...

[queen flame]

How do you get this? Fellow clan-mates received it but not me

[ripe copper]

I didn't receive it in my main, consider who got that 1k gold lucky xd

[crystal skiff]

Seems Random

[ripe copper]

Again ?!
@rare perch it's random

[rare perch]

Hwo to get like that ?

[crystal skiff]

Wtf

[ripe copper]

All my second accounts have this order except for my main, wargaming x)

[crystal skiff]

Kekw

[summer gust]

what bruhhhhhhh

[visual shell]

anyone know when rating battle start again?

[tame marten]

this week or next week

also @light cave the parts file Errored through system (reached top 4 in ratings and i can feel more pain)

[turbid pond]

How did y’all get these orders lol

[muted shuttle]

It’s random

[turbid pond]

Nice
Declares why I didnt get any lmao

[rose path]

okay so ppl getting random Lorraine Fearlesses now regardless of league??

[gilded edge]

no one is getting a fearless from the order !?

[fallen mortar]

why random things ?
isnt that a bit unfair towards the people that seemingly never get those or does everyone receive some kind of offer but the type of offer is different ?

[fair elbow]

#profile

[ripe copper]

No, the icon shows its a lorraine , but it's not.

[autumn whale]

nice nice, rating camo looks good on the big HTs, it looks even better on the t20 🤣

[gilded edge]

how much pain was that ?

[ornate spoke]

I don't understand this certificates thing....
you get the tank for watching ads, or certificates? also did you need to play ratings and get to diamond? hope so because isnt fair to those people who suffered for it

[rancid bolt]

Because he is rich? 💩

[gilded edge]

No one is getting a free Lorraine Fearless from ads. It’s parts for a Luchs and it has the icon of the Lorraine as there is none for the Luchs probably.

[glossy bramble]

How do you even get orders

[gilded edge]

the ones people are currently getting are randomly distributed so not everyone will get one @glossy bramble

[glossy bramble]

Wow wg great job very fair.

[next gull]

It is 'fair' since it is random

[tame marten]

@light cave and today this cefi is now luch Instead of lorraine fearless? @patent pier https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407947481939181568/915928656860282900/IMG_0814.png

[regal cosmos]

It was never the fearless. Only the icon was of the fearless. The parts were always for the other tank

[tame marten]

well once parts are come in my account it can show me 1 opinion (the View Tank)

[gilded edge]

its just a placeholder icon, I dont think they have icons like that for every tank

[next gull]

More importantly : why is this discussion in the rating-battles thread ?

[gilded edge]

because people think they can obtain a lorraine fearless from the order and not just from ratings...

[tame marten]

but does lorraine fearless come in your account or? @light cave @patent pier

[regal cosmos]

You only get that by playing ratings and getting to 5k+

[blissful portal]

When are we getting the parts for the lorraine? Does anyone know?

[opaque edge]

within or up to 4-5 days

[ionic ember]

😩😩

[sharp path]

Diamond league

[keen moon]

_Skee_#6305 has been warned.

[lime tinsel]

Basically a Lorraine but with slight comfort-of-life changes

[ornate spoke]

lol wp

[ornate spoke]

I have gold league

[cursive timber]

How do u get that order?

[regal cosmos]

It’s for those who don’t watch ads

[cursive timber]

breh

[fallen mortar]

No it's not I usually don't watch any haven't gotten the order

[regal cosmos]

Just going off what Ribble said. Maybe it’s for those who watch none at all. Maybe you still watch more than the max in the criteria. Or maybe it’s random like Alexandra has said

[inner jackal]

pc players wont get that anyway bc they cant watch adds regardless

[fallen mortar]

I'm a PC player I watched ads every once in a blue moon somewhat like every few months 1 or 2

[regal cosmos]

Maybe that’s why

[fallen mortar]

Would be very stupid tbh because it's literally nothing if you put it into perspective 300 gold over like 5 to 6 years

[ornate spoke]

Damn so for helping wg make profit I get less than someone who hasn’t been doing that until now. Guess I won’t be watching ads from now on

[regal cosmos]

Idk the exact criteria to get the orders but it might earn you more if you watch ads than if you don’t and then get the order. If it’s for people who dont watch ads, they’ve already missed out on the gold others have received, and probably won’t gain that much over others

[ornate spoke]

ok

[indigo jungle]

ok

[brave night]

Is WG planning to change the diamond league camo soon?
@light cave
Sorry for the ping

[ornate spoke]

I asked that before this previous season starts and she said that she didn't knew

Yea lol

[livid sandal]

Why u guys always ping someone and say sorry... Just, you know, DON'T?

[inner jackal]

@livid sandal blushes
Sowy didn't mean to tag you uwu
fortnite dances away from you

[livid sandal]

It is ok. Just don't do it again...

oops, i ping you as well, so sorry!

[inner jackal]

Oh no, how clumsy we are 😔

[brave night]

@livid sandal sorry?
Did I ping u ?

[eager wigeon]

hey ,

any tips for improving my rating ?

[daring loom]

Spam battles xD

[sour shale]

Have all ur family members play in ur account(dog aswell if possible)

[ornate spoke]

Wg has to really introduce afk queue time ban for players who afk in ranked matches,had three ranked matches today where one heavy was afk for the entire match

[ornate spoke]

wait is ratings already open?

[keen moon]

__________k#3087 was muted

_GetAngeloED#1804 was muted

TheRealMasterC#6426 was muted

[muted shuttle]

Accusing others and shaming them won’t be tolerated here.

[sharp path]

Well,it isnt really Accusing since there was plenty of proof in the past

[muted shuttle]

If you have got any proof, submit it to the support. This channel is not meant for it.

[sharp path]

I understand that,but that is their way to Show that wg Support does nothing about it,the max they got was a 3 day ban,while some others get a permanent one for far less

[muted shuttle]

Again, that is not your nor mine business. We are not here for that.

[vivid shore]

@patent pierOn website and in the game news we see different avatars than we have in the game. Why this happened? And are you planning to change it?

[ornate spoke]

Takes them ages to change that stupid dam rating camo

[ornate spoke]

nah i dont think so
the in game one must be just the image zoomed out

[quick stratus]

these is normal 😂

[inner jackal]

U play smasher u have no excuses

[opaque edge]

Smasher in Ratings...

[fallen mortar]

Clapped a good amount of smasher and anni spammers in this cali

[quick stratus]

its not these what you mean but look two with damg 0 these is problem of the game and these is two tier 8

[inner jackal]

But u play smasher so u deserve bad teams💀

[primal scroll]

they look the same to me
woops forgot to reply this is for the avatar message

[charred hemlock]

wish i knew whatever the image says, on the other hand though, how did ya go to that screen in the game?, dont remember there being something like that

[fallen mortar]

its the rating tab ingame and i scrolled down
just click at your rating or where it says calibration and you should get there

[opaque edge]

Calibration done 3961

[ornate spoke]

what the heel

[daring loom]

Sp1c OP

[rose path]

Literally one person on the board so far from 100 battles, the grind from today and the next 4 days is mad vital to get foot in door of Top 10

[inner jackal]

Not enough carry juice

[gilded flax]

it really depends on what position you are on your ratings points, you expect to lose and gain more in the lower part of your league, and lose less and gain less from the league you are closest to next (what I experienced)

[fringe flicker]

Ik only first day but…

[daring mist]

They just updated the rating avatars in the last update

[brittle crow]

Guys can u get season coins from ratings this days? Or will be able to get em later?

[fringe flicker]

Yes I think first 200 wins in either diamond or platinum

[sharp path]

Season Ended,no more coins

[indigo laurel]

Welp I lost 4 battles because of my team... I was always the highest damage in a light tank aswell ..

[fringe flicker]

Pretty sure it just restarted…

[fallen mortar]

Ratings season yes
Coins for wins no

[sharp path]

Im talking about tourney season,thats why we got coins in the first place

[hardy kiln]

208 points!!!!!!!! HOW is this possible?

[compact oriole]

last battle of callibration

[inner jackal]

Calibrating at 4k
Blessed

[hidden dew]

Rating battles

[ornate spoke]

what time can we get the lorraine fearless , all the year ?

[arctic osprey]

what happens if wg change the tank? all parts for nothing?

[rose path]

The battle spam tactic seems to be working idk, also can some mod give me veteran role now pls

[arctic osprey]

what tier do you play

[regal cosmos]

Yep

[rose path]

I spam 9 until mid plat then switch to X

[gentle bobcat]

Lol

[charred hemlock]

damn ur looking real fine my dude, lovely stats

[oblique current]

Can I get coins in this rating battle?
I got it last time.
Under what conditions do you distribute coins?
Is it the whims of the WG?

[signal whale]

Guys you know where to find the combat XP is

[gilded edge]

It’s not season right now. No coins this month.

[tall prawn]

hello first game 1vs5

[daring loom]

Gg, not ratings but wp nevertheless

[steady raptor]

Battle spam essential.

[tall prawn]

yes i miss

[crude totem]

puh smaser

[quick stratus]

puh you dont have maybe master card or what?

[plush hull]

the teams did generally have similar ratings, but on one team the rating results from 2 players only .... and that really showed during the game: the non ranked players I assume would normally have way higher ratings. It would be nice if the MM would evenly distribute non ranked players in both teams imo

[muted shuttle]

They have rating which is counted, it’s just not being displayed.

[tidal terrace]

asiaaaaaa (most players are 30%ers)

i wish rating battles didnt suck so bad

[tender flame]

Ratings shouldnt be allowed to everyone

[gilded flax]

there definitely should be a requirement in terms of battles or tech tree tiers

[plush hull]

Oh, I see , thanks ! In that case it's not that bad, I guess 🙂

[stark echo]

<@&481447501690568709>

[rose path]

Out of sight, out of mind ez

[pulsar depot]

can u get uptiered in rating battle? if yes is tier 10 the best tier for rating battle?

[inner jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-care-no-one-cares-no-once-care-who-cares-idc-gif-15734801

[muted shuttle]

What league are you in?

[inner jackal]

Sounds like bronze player to me man

Update, after finding his acc on blitzstars he has 2900 rating, which is silver, with a whopping 900 wn8 on 30 days

[inner jackal]

Maybe start improving those black WN8s values on your t10, then speak

[muted shuttle]

There’s a massive difference between being in the silver league and for instance diamond

But you should take a look at your own performance first, as that is the only thing you can change. When you’ll play fantastically without any mistakes then you can blame others

And what makes you think it doesn’t happen to the other team as well?

If you are so good as you are describing and you think you don’t belong there among such bad players, why you are in that league then? If you are so good you should have no issue whatsoever to progress further

[inner jackal]

ahem
Black wn8
Just sayin'

Playing ratings to try and get better is the worst possible way of trying to become better.
Ratings (in theory) = for skilled players = not for you

[muted shuttle]

Mate why do you think your performance depends on them? If you are consistently doing great as you says, you will move out of silver really quickly.

The same stuff happens to the other team as well, it should not bother you. Focus on your performance and what can you do better before looking at others.

[inner jackal]

Where top damage?

[ornate spoke]

Also why did you just put in 2 of the same pictures you took?

Why not

Dang good point

And I don't see your team doing 0 damage so?

[agile sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

i’m not blaming others, i’m only blaming...

[daring loom]

You have to consider the fact that some people may enter a battle and something more important comes up (they get a call for example) and therefore have to go afk.

[rose path]

I lost over 100 points today so im back down at 4500, but seeing the same sodium chloride lvls here once more reminds me to be greatful 🙂

[fallen mortar]

1600 is nothing lol😂
EU has people with over 5k rating battles in the 2 month seasons

And ah yes wr is true skill in what dream world are you living ?
Points are given out according to exp from what I've experienced and you get experience for everything you do in battles so why base it on a stat like wr that's just going to make even more people quit because of how stupid matching people according to points is

[keen moon]

Heim#4300 has been warned.

[quick stratus]

Hi I win 3 rating today why mission not done?

[cursive lance]

Because you need to be calibrated for this Mission (10 Games)

[quick stratus]

i have 4110 points so these is something wrong

So dont tell me i need calibrated first

[livid sandal]

Btw even if you are doing calibration battles, that 0/3 thing increases.

I complete that mission many times while i am still in calibration process.

And i have experienced same error 2 days ago, cannot solve it. If that is important for you, you might send a ticket showing your battles (since they have timestamps, it can help) and mission. @quick stratus

[quick stratus]

I close the game and start again but nothing better i steal win and mission not done

[fallen mortar]

i wish we could ban like 1 tank that we dont want to fight against xD
id be banning WT because its just so incredibly broken and is constantly spammed

[sharp path]

Yessir,they are also reall toxic most of the time

[runic copper]

so far there is only 1 player in diamond on na server xD what's going on

[jagged glade]

Hehe nice team :)

[runic copper]

basically back where i started, a big waste of time 😒

[inner jackal]

emil 1 spammer ,nice

[vague canyon]

better than smashillator spammer

[daring loom]

Welcome to ratings

[red mountain]

thanks WG

[daring loom]

Not like he has the NA role 🙄

[daring loom]

Ah true, got me there😂

[hollow burrow]

Obviously WG hate getting their godawful system criticised. So deleted my comment. Anyway, let's give you a simple example.

You're 2 mostly full health tanks on say, the top of the hill on Castilla. 3 enemy tanks have just rolled the heavy side and are going to be coming towards past cap your side of the map. They're 600-900ish health each. Two enemy tanks are also lower health values, holding on the other side of the hill. The only objectively correct play in this situation is to push out and eliminate the weaker side of their encroaching encirclement, before it happens.

Now, you recognise that and push into their 2 tanks, intending a hit point loss to minimise the numbers advantage of the other team. Your team mate stays on top of the hill to farm damage. You have no one to share hit points with, get focussed down, and die. Your team mate still lands a solid amount of shots, and after you killed 1 in a 1v2, he finishes off the second while only getting shot once.

Now, he's 1v3 instead of 1v2. He is almost guaranteed to be incapable of winning, and had a much higher chance to win if he played correctly and hard committed to the weaker side of their team to eliminate them.

Regardless, he's still full health or close to it now, and gets deals 1000 more damage as he died. Maybe you'd both have done even more damage and won if he'd played correctly, but because of how he played it you lose more rating points, and he loses very few or even gains rating points on a loss.

Ultimately, this player lost you the game. He's a griefer and a worse player than you, and he's directly rewarded for it. In fact, not only is he rewarded for it, you're punished for it. You did less damage than you otherwise would have, and lost more rating points as a result, because of him.

[fallen mortar]

That's literally a normal game nothing special and espacially on Castillo the 1 v 3 is winnable with that one carry spot
The first mistake already was loosing the heavy side which is almost impossible if you actually have the hill

[hollow burrow]

That's just an example, the fundamental reality of misplays by your team causing them to be rewarded (and you punished) doesn't change. On the other hand, if winning was the only thing that allowed you to climb, that troll play style would be discouraged and never rewarded. The better you play, the more you win, and the more you win, the more rating points you would climb. The only thing in rating that pads win rate is ping; a 60% win rate player on 20 ping is worse than one on 200 ping. The same is true for every other measurable metric, though.

Can you engage with my very possible example?

Another one; sometimes doing nothing is the optimal play. 3v4 on a flank, you have an E100, 183 and JgPzE100. No one on their team wants to poke a corner and get shot by you. You can't push the corner because you're outnumbered, but you can hold. If you all fire at a small target and miss, you get eaten alive by the 4 higher DPM tanks on the other side. No one pokes you because they don't want to get shot, but you also can't shoot. You're 4v3 on the other flank, and will win it most of the time, on average. The optimal play is to wait. If they try leave cover to help the other flank, you one shot one of them and then get a tank advantage. If not, you win the other side of the map and they get put into a crossfire, and you win.

That's an example of a situation where your impact to the game is not related to your damage dealt/exp gained. The threat you pose is enough.

Now, changing rating to be win rate based would change the situation in 2 ways. One, you'd actually be rewarded for playing optimally in a way that helps your team win without directly dealing huge amounts of damage, so it would feel like a viable play style. Two, the 4 tanks vs 3 could just push around as a group and eliminate you without fearing having their game ruined. Even if they got destroyed on low damage numbers, they'd still win the flank, probably win the game and therefore still be rewarded equally.

[fallen mortar]

If they all camo a corner in a 3 v 4 just send one into cap and they are forced to move or loose
Basing it on wins is incredibly stupid as I already explained
You literally ignore the fact that the enemy has those stupid players as well and you get these unbalanced teams just because of the way ratings games are matched which is according to points
So making it win based just punishes people that carry Thier team and rewards literally nothing because just because you make it win based Thier way of playing won't change

[compact oriole]

I think I have experienced a great decline in my braincell count after suffering through this text wall.

So lets break it down, first I want to start off with "The only thing in rating that pads win rate is ping; a 60% win rate player on 20 ping is worse than one on 200 ping". Are you even aware of what ping is? The lower ping you have, the better.... but I assume you have no clue and are just speaking mindless statements.

As for your proposition to have ratings based on wr, that would just make it easier for trolls/afk players to screw you over. Fighting a 6vs7 because one tank just decided he won't play either because he wants to troll or jusr went afk (which happens a fair bit in rating, mainly in gold tho), means the battle is heavily favored towards the enemy. And since your percentage for a loss drastically increases as you are a tank down from the very start, you are essentially getting punished for other's mistakes/accidents. But wait, you previously said "In fact, not only is he rewarded for it, you're punished for it." meaning you don't want to get punished based on other's mistakes/issues, yet your proposition is doing exactly that. You are proposing something that features the same issue, but pushes it to an event greater extent.

[fallen mortar]

It happens with gold league players so basically all the time because you can't really avoid gold league players unless you're like 6k+

[inner jackal]

even then, where there arent enough players, MM will try to add 7 players in each team and thats how unbalanced teams appear

damn u almost missed #blitz-memes

[copper mauve]

imo ratings should be 5v5

[opaque edge]

Why?

[inner jackal]

instead of making it 5v5 or other useless stuff, make it more popular, more appealing to the playerbase, this will lead to more even matches, more narrow spread pool of players across.
more players = less chances to get gold players in other ranks

[copper mauve]

more games where you actually fight battles against equal rated players

instead of getting matched with a bronze troll

therefore more players play often

and more people play it as MM is more likely to give teams that are as skilled as them

therefore, ratings becomes better

[compact oriole]

there more you play with people of your own skill level, the closer your av. wr (in rating) will come to 50%, the more 60%+ will get angry since they are not winning their usual amount.

And since you are playing with players with the same sill level, you are going to win about 50%. So a 45% will fight 45%ers but will average 50%, while you are 65% will fight other 65%ers and still get the same 50%wr

[inner jackal]

that is the point of ratings, to unite players of the same skill level and put them against players of the same skill level

[compact oriole]

that is the point of rating, but there is a disconnect with the desire of the players. The people that come here to complain are only doing so because they aren't winning as much as they wants. By putting them with similarly skilled players (which wg still have to determine how to evaluate skill), they will average about 50%. Therefore, the player will pretty much break out even on points, as we assume they are doing the same, mediocre damage (since they have similarly skilled opponents) every game, they are more or less going to break out even. And what is rating all about? Well pushing high rating, but with a person more or less breaking even, how is that main purpose of rating supposed to come in play.

Do note: I am in no way defending the current mm system as I do think it is flawed. But there is no real working alternative and personally, I don't think there ever would be a replacement for it

[inner jackal]

simple fix (in theory)
-even the teams in terms of skill
-make it so that first X players in terms of damage gain points (both loss and win)
-next Y players from winning team gain less points
-same Y players from the loosing team dont gain nor lose points
-last Z players from winning team dont gain nor lose points
-last Z players from loosing team lose points

^this is what WoT PC ranked system is like , the only issue it has is that at higher ratings scores , there are less and less players to be put in an even match which results in relatively long queues (which imo i wont mind)

[opaque edge]

The amount of players playing ratings is very low imho, yday night I saw around 15-20 in T10, same in T8 and around 10-15 in T7 and 9. Thats very very low numbers. Enough to have games, but in general very low.

I like the idea of @inner jackal

[agile sphinx]

Oh no not the "Pls let me camp and farm damage and gain points stupidly easily" squad again how many times do I have to explain this :/

[inner jackal]

i mean we could switch it to EXP no prob , but imo in such a small , fast paced game, doing damage is more effective

[opaque edge]

I do not like dmg be major factor in a personal result either, but I dont think there is a way to calculate how good of a team work 2 heavies did e.g. pushing vs 3 heavies. Loosing some HP in the process but clearing 2 of 3?

[agile sphinx]

You could just use the almost universally accepted best metric of how well you played, aka how much you win 🤦‍♀️

[inner jackal]

Winning doesn't mean u did well, means the team did better than the enemy team

[opaque edge]

It's not always right to judge by WR.
I much more prefer to play along side guy who has 45% and actually trades HP and helps push vs some 65% who use me as a meatshield

[agile sphinx]

In individual battles yes, over any meaningful amount of battles no. @inner jackal

It's not always right to judge by wr, but it's significantly better than judging by damage. You may not like playing with them, but if they are more effective and win more then they are doing something right @opaque edge

[opaque edge]

undeniably you are correct, but I have seen so many accounts where the reason they have 65% is because they spam 2-3k (THOUSANDS) battles in Tier 1 - 3 to get to that WR

[inner jackal]

Player with 58% and 1800 avg dmg >>>>>player with 65% and 1200 avg dmg

[fallen mortar]

You can't really judge by wr in rating battles because they are matched according to points which makes for very uneven battles continuously

[agile sphinx]

And you can't do that in ratings so there's no issue with giving people points based off whether they win or not? @opaque edge

@fallen mortar If you change the points system to be based off wr more than camping and farming then your rating will be a better approximation of your skill, and so you will get much more even games. You'll also get a point where you aren't good enough to go any higher stopping battle spammers, and I don't see you saying that random battle wr is fake because teams there are random and so inherently more uneven

[steady raptor]

This is flat out correct and spot on.

Ratings should be based on WR.

Disconnecting performance rating from winning devalues the ultimate objective of the game and encourages players to play selfishly to farm damage to farm rating score.

[fallen mortar]

You can't reliably farm points from not winning
I don't complain about randoms because they aren't supposed to be competitive unlike ratings and ratings beeing point based which every agrees is being influenced by battle spamers that are flat out garbadge makes winning more like gambling in some cases
I see people winning 9/10 games at t10 with like 2,5k avg which basically means they didnt perform too well but then win 2/10 battles at t8 with the same avg and carrying as much as possible

[hollow burrow]

Lower ping = more shots hit = more tanks killed by your team on average = more likely to win; not hard to understand even though you, as you say, are lacking in brain cells after trying to read.

As I explained; you already get punished for trolls on your team. However, at the moment not only do you get punished, they get rewarded. Literal griefers, at least on asia, are getting free tanks because of the way the rating system currently works.

That aside, AFKs and trolls are randomly distributed. You're actually more likely to have one on the enemy team than yours. On average, they don't effect your win rate at all or even help it.

[compact oriole]

@hollow burrow let us look at your exact quote "a 60% win rate player on 20 ping is worse than one on 200 ping. The same is true for every other measurable metric, though." You are literally stating that 20 ping is worse than 200. Maybe you should pay attention to what you type

[hollow burrow]

No, I'm saying that a 20 ping player with a 60% win rate is worse at the game than a 200 ping player on 60% win rate. The person who's performing the same with a handicap is clearly better. Not that hard to understand.

Like if I your pull up max is the same as my pull up max with 20kg on a weight belt, I'm clearly better at pull ups.

(Warning, for whatever reason I can only post once per 5 minutes.)

[daring loom]

There’s a slow mode

[compact oriole]

As for the rest of your message, you don't get top positions in the leader board for simply "griefing" as you are portraying it. I am absolutely certain everyone withing top 50 or even top 100 did everything they thought was correct in each and every one of their battles. You don't get high leaderboard positions by just farming damage and losing, for those you need to actually win especially with only getting around 10-15ish points after 5.5k.
Once you pass a certain point in rating/climb high enough, you don't have to worry about your feared "griefers" as you rarely get any of them as , as said before, just about anyone over 5.1k is focused on grinding leaderboard positions and they are looking to do it through the most efficient was possible - winning. There are a lot of people who spam battles but even those players are after the victory an would prefer it over losing. If you are grinding leaderboard positions of course you would want to win with mediocre damage but only gain 12-13 points instead of losing, being top damage and gaining 3-4.

as for the previous reply, all I have to say is that I would not want a player who has a tank literally teleporting and shells going in narnia

[inner jackal]

A good player Will do good even with 500 of CONSTANT ping so ye

[hollow burrow]

In asia and presumably NA, the servers are small enough that 1 5500+ will usually be on a team of mostly 3500 players. They literally lose 4 rating points if they lose with 0 damage and generally get about 12-20 for a 3k win. So people who get high rating early can sorta monopolise the ranks because it's almost impossible for them to lose as much as they gain on a win. That's sorta an aside, but the way rating points inflate because of that makes the server super difficult to climb on. I had a screenshot of me losing 22 for 1800 damage and a kill with all my damage self spotted, and another playing losing 2 for 1400 damage, self spotted with no kill lol.

So yeah, I'm talking about asia specific experiences. I think I specified that but if I didn't, my bad.

Here's a 3k rating spread, for example. Note this was shortly after my first ever set of placement games and I got ammo racked. Honestly this is pretty good though, there were only like 4 3k or less in this game, 1 2900 against a 6200 lol. I'm seeing if I have any better screenshots but it's not uncommon to have like, 1 5500 against 6 3500s. Then you get those crazy loss situations where one player has a mediocre performance on a loss and loses 4 while another does better and loses 40.

[opaque edge]

If only every any dev would read what people discuss here 😄 How many years have Rating Battles not touched (in terms of balance, mechanics and etc)?

[charred hemlock]

1 year, ratings were mechanically changed during the last 365 days, avatars, rewards and matchmaking mechanics i believe

[livid sandal]

Since there is no "loss over time" mechanism in that game (there was loss over time in one of the asphalt games for example) those players with high ratings dont need to play regularly. You can "keep" your ratings via waiting as long as you want. During those waiting periods, players who prefer to play ratings regularly face that kind of mm's. So, maybe the solution should be loss over time mechanism. But that also creates a negative possibility of leading late starts (to overcome loss over time stuff) To overcome this, daily "rating bonuses" might be introduced to make the rating players do "at least some" battles everyday.

[scenic comet]

I'm playing rank when I exit the game and I can't reconnect?

[ornate spoke]

Rating games are just unbalanced and with huge bugs : when u have lose streak well all the players are retards, when u have 1-2 wins all plays good

[runic copper]

do you play good in most of your games? or only 1-2 games? if you are on a losing streak it might be you that needs to play better

[digital trout]

Get on my level

[livid sandal]

Rating? And there are tons of better accs, like high more damage with aces etc

[digital trout]

i have 100%

[zinc ravine]

I’ve seen better

[inner jackal]

Please leave the server, and touch grass

[ornate spoke]

he played only 1 battle tho

[elfin burrow]

I would rather not

[ornate spoke]

It is rating channel.

[glossy vale]

Where have the coins gone for a win in rating battles?

[compact oriole]

Only the double seasons (april-may & september-october) feature coins as a reward

[runic copper]

I wouldn't let afks get in my way

[ornate spoke]

u mean october-november

[short perch]

two questions
no coins for wins this month?
the daily task concerning 3 wins in ratings does not work properly

[ornate spoke]

I'm doing my best every game I play

[runic copper]

whats your average damage on your most used tank?

[ornate spoke]

2145

[vague canyon]

first question, read above

[short perch]

Where

[vague canyon]

@short perch , just above :////:

[unreal mulch]

wow anti-fun people like you should be the ones leaving

[inner jackal]

Am I anti fun tho?
Or ur too basic?

Also where is the fun supposed to be when making a new account and flex your 100wr with a pathetic low dmg and ONE battle

[heady lion]

no he is just childish and idiot

[agile adder]

Y'all need to touch some grass, no one is exempt

[snow surge]

Some y'all don't understand irony or sarcasm

[fallen mortar]

my head hurts from reading that

[compact oriole]

Honestly I want to get more of such messages because they're hilarious bcz they make no sense lmao

[hollow burrow]

Experience points to it being your reading comprehension at fault. What happened lol?

[vivid peak]

The last 2 on my team were.... well let's just put it in simple terms, "Brainless"
And also, Rating teams be like:

[regal cosmos]

consider what rating you are at, then set your expectations for the team

[robust mulch]

The teams are horrible today but i did it

[runic copper]

WG should do something to make rating way more appealing to pros rather than noobs.

[vivid peak]

ok sure.

[runic copper]

I know what will bring more pros to rating, rewards top 100 player by end of the season with a tank (not all the same tank) or some golds, top 10 would still get the better rewards

[regal cosmos]

top 10 get a tank already, and top 100 get more parts for a tank than others

[runic copper]

i don't need no stinking parts, i want a tank if i get into diamond but don't make it into top 10

[regal cosmos]

Simply getting diamond isnt hard, and isnt that worthy of an entire tank. Thatll make the tank a giveaway rather than any reward. Not any reward for pros either, since anyone with time can get it, even if theyre a noob

If its a tier 5 or something maybe its worth it as a reward for spending the time

[runic copper]

if it's not hard there should be thousands of players in diamond league

[fallen mortar]

you know this game isnt having a multi million player base right ?
you know the ranked gamemode isnt as popular as other gammemodes ?
you know thats its easy as hell to get diamond ? some people need less than 100 games to get it

[runic copper]

some people you say? the average blitz player need way more than that. you know why isn't popular? because the rewards sucks

[fallen mortar]

because the people that want more rewards suck 😂
play for a couple seasons and get a free t8 prem whats so ahrd about it

[runic copper]

says alot about you

[regal cosmos]

sure they can increase the rewards and get more players, but what you suggest isnt very effective, because with the state of rating points where spamming battles gets you high on the leaderboard, you value 5k rating too much, and any higher tier tank provided for 5k rating would quickly go worthless as everyone grabs it, while lower tier tanks arent much of an incentive to play ratings

[runic copper]

I don't value 5k, it's easy for average unicum, I value top 100 players by season end or at least top 50

[regal cosmos]

what reward do you think is suitable for that? If its a tank, what tier?

[fallen mortar]

tier 2 non collector xD

so youre okay with low tier collectors that sell for 75-100 gold ?

[runic copper]

any tank worth selling for credits or even golds....

[fallen mortar]

Actually not to bad of a idea to get the old tech trees back into peoples garages
But idk if anyone would really care about those since they are mostly lowtier

Could make top 100 get 1 of those old tech trees that are now collectors and do it in a way that the higher up you are the higher tier the old tank is

[little heron]

it should not be too complicated to prohibit access to the ranked 30-49.99%. Obviously they don't understand the game. Don't apply the strategies, don't make the proper sectors according to the tanks they play, and are unable to play as a team ... I don't see why they would come to be ranked. Let them play randomly (with the same game modes available) but stop allowing this ranked massacre. This type of mode is supposed to be balanced and for the competitors: the 30-40% only come to kill this mode

[regal cosmos]

There’s not enough players in ratings battles to handle that. Rn anything that results in smaller queues should just be kept aside until ratings battles are popular enough

[livid sandal]

And do their daily missions... Since they cannot win easily, they do tons of matches.

[short perch]

I cant find the interest in playing ratings since I don't earn coins.
They are worthless imho

[little heron]

there is no more interest, at least for competitive players ... It is time for Wargaming to offer a level mode. seeing a player with 38% ranked tier 10 is an aberration

[short perch]

at least last season I made like 3k coins.
Now I dont know if I will continue, no interest at all

[livid sandal]

There is still credit bonus.

[short perch]

btw at least for rankings the mm should be balanced, it is not fair that the heavies on one side are 3 autoloaders and the other team has 3 single shot heavies. Make it at least 1/2 autoloaders per team

[fringe flicker]

nice job

[tulip mountain]

Is there a way we can report trollers

[alpine turtle]

Nope

[sonic sedge]

Ratings battles used to be popular with fairly decent players but the trouble is they’ve now realised that it’s just the same as regular battles(you have useless yolo noobs on your team) as your score STILL goes down even if you battled the hardest out of both ‘teams’ chosen by war gaming!
War Gaming haven’t bothered upgrading the biased scoring system since it’s inception & so for that reason a lot of good players don’t enter this mode!

[warm ivy]

Agreed. They need a Sandbox mode for players that can’t manage to climb out of 45% range. So many of these teams lately are a waste of time. It isn’t fun seeing a team lose 2-3 players in the first 30 seconds.

Once a forty percenter is in the low 50s in Sandbox mode, they graduate. Drop below 45 again and back to the sandbox to affirm skills.

[fallen mortar]

And how are the other supposed to play then ?
Asia and NA already sturggle hard in terms of players
The system might work for RU but not for any other server due to the lack of players

And most 50%ers are trash too from the view of a upper 60% player they still take unnecessary risks and fail a ton of shots or don't lead HE on easy targets
Same goes for 60%ers from the view of 70% players
At least that's what I think

[little heron]

Limiting access to this mode to players below 49% will limit trash battles. A player above 50% knows the positions to take and manages to do a minimum of damage. The delta between a 30% and a 60% is much too important to qualify as "ranked" this mode ...

[runic copper]

I know some people purposely afk in rating, probably using some kind of bot, they win credits by literally doing nothing
and there's no use creating a ticket for them, wg say they will handle the matter but can't tell me exactly what they will do, i know what they'll do, literally nothing

[compact oriole]

1. that would kill the entire mode, resulting in neither trash, nor good battles being played
2. 50%ers will just become the new 40%ers because they will be outclassed by all of the other players. Therefore you reduce the playerbase, yet the issue still persists.

I will say this once again: there is no solution to the gamemodes' problem. Therefore just leave rating alone because even if there was a possible fix, you can bet WG will not implement it. Blitz is not supposed to be a highly competitive game outside of tournaments and as a result WG don't really care about it, as can be seen with the obvious lack of incentive to play. So just let the gamemode be, if you want to play it, do it, if you don't want to play it, then you can also decide not to play. As a result of that, the only major issue I have with the gamemode is missions related to it. I do believe people should not be forced to play a gamemode, they do not want to.

[livid sandal]

If you do "literally nothing" you will get "literally nothing".

[runic copper]

oh then they are just trolls afking for nothing?

[opaque edge]

I can explain higher rate of AFK in ratings very simple. You click "Battle", you minimize or switch to another tab/application (coz of long wait times), you get sidetracked, distracted, did not see window flash when battle started.

[livid sandal]

And u r more aware of afks in rating battles, there are also tons of afks in random battles which have in general lower income rate (no bonus).

[runic copper]

If WG gets rid of "wIn 3 rATinG gAMeS" mission, we'd notice a huge mm improvement, maybe

[livid sandal]

Well, u might see less players in that mode as well.

[runic copper]

we can do with less players. I don't mind waiting for 30 minutes for a match as long as it's a fair match without "low level" players
in clash of clans, waiting hours while pushing for higher league is normal, not that I play that game anymore

[livid sandal]

Himm, who r u? Who else accept 30 min waiting time here? You can continue waiting in clash of clans.

[compact oriole]

... what a stupid statement... god I can't even. Thinking that waiting 30 minutes for a single battle is worth it is moronic

[regal cosmos]

30 minute queues will drive away all the pros you want to bring in

[light forum]

Just throwing this out there, what about merging the realistic game mechanics with ratings battles? I think more noobs would stay away without the help of the armor indication in sniper mode and other differences in spotting etc. Although… discouraging noobs might drive up queue times. Double edged s word. Thoughts?

[daring loom]

I don’t think less experienced players would be put off by realistic, considering I see a lot of them in the gamemode.

[vague matrix]

how are the rating camos obtained again? i forgot

[daring loom]

You need to have at least 50 battles in a tier and the most played tank of that tier will get the camo if you end the season in platinum or diamond

[muted shuttle]

Yes, via support.

[runic copper]

In order to prevent this kind of disaster, under 3k should be limited to tier 7/8, under 4k to tier 7-9, over 4k 7-10 fair?
I know noobs could get to over 4k easily after calibration (by luck)

seems this time is not the best time to play rating... did more dmg than all my team combined

[regal cosmos]

anything that increases queue times for a mode that already has small queues and longer queue times wont help

[daring loom]

You do realise that it doesn’t exactly take skill to get over 4k/5k. You just need a lot of time to spam. Of course being better at the game makes it quicker but I’ve seen more that my share of not very great players above 4k and occasionally 5k

[ornate spoke]

there's one especially garbage player that plays nothing but annihilator on NA and has gotten top 3 multiple times (at least 4)

when i say garbage I am talking 1.2k avg at tier 10 with sub-40

[robust mulch]

5k is not that hard but it needs skill i agree this

[daring loom]

Yeah it requires some level of skill but not a lot to be honest. Spamming battles seems to do the trick for them

[ornate spoke]

was butterflying 18 cps to kill wt at the end unfortunately we have about the same reload lmao

[crimson wedge]

Imo the game is really rigged in rating battles, only very few tech tree tanks play it between tier 7 and 9, so its more about the tank people use than about the skill they have, why not make it tech tree only?

[fallen mortar]

You know what ?
I consider tech trees at t8 stronger than Thier respective prems
T32 does everything shark does but better except for dpm
Caer hits harder and faster than AX but in return isn't as nub friendly
Tiger II still a decent choice
The good old classic Emil I that works for almost everyone with half a braincell

[ornate spoke]

Finally Diamond

[gilded edge]

https://tenor.com/view/rice-bag-fallen-gif-7586915

[gilded edge]

they fix that in the 8.6 update!

[runic copper]

depends on the team, if the heavies in your team had braincells they'd go >> with you and it'd be an easy win for you team (if the heavies had braincells). If not, you'd have to watch the flank by yourself xD

[regal cosmos]

In that situation go with them and just push quick

[inner jackal]

yeah better go with the whole team on the "wrong" side , than going alone on the "good" side

[regal cosmos]

tier 6. Dont expect a lot. People are mostly inexperienced there

[gilded edge]

wrong channel...

[inner jackal]

u have 600 battles , more than half of the players in that battle are most likely bots

who ghosted ping me???

[livid sandal]

1. This is obviously not a rating battle, so it is not the right place as Tanzzwerg stated above.

2. This channel is not to complain about match making. (check pinned messages, it might be useful)

3. You shouldn't expect much from teammates, expecially if u r under 5k match as TacNayn and _FREE__C1P_[-TXC-] stated above.

[gilded edge]

11 people in ratings queue in EU at noon !? because of the update?

[compact oriole]

you do realize people have work/school because its not even noon yet for the majority of europe.

[gilded edge]

there are usually 30-40 players in the queue at that time

[regal cosmos]

not worth longer queues

[gilded edge]

you want to wait for ages in the queue?

[runic copper]

yes

[regal cosmos]

WG doesnt

[livid sandal]

Well, we don't want to wait, you can wait somewhere else. And there are also rerolls and "wise" players below 5k matches.

[regal cosmos]

those are a small portion

[livid sandal]

Well, i also see tons of useless above 5k players, hence restricting ratings via setting a match limit sounds meaningless to me.

@mossy mortar Such a wise and useful question. Who is asking? Expecting that much of a change via just saying "please" without any supporting information is the brightest move in the history i guess? Cute history.

[elfin burrow]

No point in arguing with tryhard ratings players.
@gilded edge Noted.

[gilded edge]

I dont have problem waiting a bit longer, I dont need a battle after 10 sec. But 2+ min would not be something I enjoy.

[warm otter]

ez wait,no one play rating

[warm otter]

and i finally waited 35m
@kindred flower u using td?

[runic copper]

this game is known for not giving enough recognition for MVPs even in defeat

[regal cosmos]

in ratings the priority is given for winning, not how well you can farm damage yourself. If you do well enough you gain points already (the game didnt consider 5k and 1 kill enough). Besides, rating point earnings dont need to be increased, even if the best performing players deserve more. Its already too rewarding for simply spamming battles

[cursive timber]

i mean at least u didn't lose that much...

[gilded edge]

If you always do little damage you gain just a little by winning and loose a lot when loosing, if you do lots of damage always you gain nicely and only loose a little (or even gain) when loosing. Its more about damage rly.

[keen moon]

Tankist#1279 has been warned.

[runic copper]

that's true, more damage more rating points, and more wins

[smoky jacinth]

Rating Battles are more fun and competitive, just wish WG could figure out how to get more players to realize this. I think resetting every month is a factor since all your hard work is “wasted”. Don’t know why it can’t be time weighted toward most recent battles vs resetting.

[glossy bramble]

It aint wasted you get an beautiful camo at 5k i wish ratings could reset every week lol

[livid sandal]

If you increase the time weight it might lead people to think that, they wasted their time there. If you decrease the time weight on the other hand, newer players wont prefer to start playing ratings since it will be way harder to climb up. Each month and stuff, it is a new challenge/competition now.

[willow stream]

If I play the Chimera mainly in Rating Platinum will I get the Phantom camo 0_0?

[livid sandal]

You won't get legendary camos, you will get rating camos.

[fast crescent]

why is it so much harder to get diamond these days? makes ratings even less worth doing

[vale garden]

On Asia... it isn't that "much harder" to get diamond." Check my stats. Got Diamond last season (2 months)... played about 300 battles? Try to earn 100 points a day. Calibration is very important. Switch tanks every 200-500 points. Play a broken tier 8 for the first 1000 points (if I stared with 3000 rating points; Gold League). Play strong tier 10s after 4000 rating points. Meta tier 10s that I use: M48 Patton, IS-7, 60 TP, VK90, T22, Yoh, T57, and Prog. I plan to use the 50B too (currently grinding it).

[robust mulch]

Bruh

[late mural]

Properly balanced time-weighting would be good.

OR

Only partial reset each month. Like 4000 -> 3500 pts.. 5000 -> 4000.. etc

[fast crescent]

thanks mate appreciate the advice

[rotund patio]

just y give me the extra point

[inner jackal]

u have to deserve that extra point

[torpid shadow]

what a fun and enjoyable game

[agile sphinx]

• loses 6 games *
  Omg how dare I lose I hate this game

[short perch]

Ratings battles should include only tech tree tanks

[arctic osprey]

how to win more in ratings? seen a lot of people with over 60% wr doing 2k avg in t8 while im struggling to reach 50wr with 2k

[arctic osprey]

50mins just to lose 7games and win 1 for -12 rating

[pastel axle]

Then I’d be only Emils and Tiger IIs etc

[compact oriole]

For anyone playing at around 3k, there is currently a smasher player roleplaying as a spartan.

[ornate spoke]

Who play at 3k?

[wild dagger]

Can someone tell me When rating season ends Will i get any rewards for my rating points??

[opaque edge]

At what what rating number you are now, usually you can tell the reward by reading description of Rating battles in News

[fast parrot]

I agree

[tender ivy]

Having high winrate teammate is nothing when his/her intention isnt to win

[ornate spoke]

How long there will be Lorraine fearless?

[opaque edge]

wild guess - a year, if not 2...

[scenic comet]

mid match with noob 1k point?

[agile sphinx]

They did a far amount more damage than you so idk why you are complaining that their rating is bad 😂

[torpid shadow]

The match making of this game so suck

[rough drift]

How are rating matches balanced if one Team has 3+ ppl on it without any rating/still calibrating while the other team had all top Ratings?

[fallen mortar]

People always have a rating even if it's hidden behind the calibration
Cali just applies some kind Multiplicator to how many points you win or loose

[ornate spoke]

this is actually a fair point lmao, that way we ain't have stuff like 252u roamin around

[gilded flax]

252's arent that op anymore tbh imo, its more that it would be fair since some not so good players purchase premium tanks and then go straight into ratings, its annoying

[mint nexus]

Just 100 matches and he is in rating battles, you are giving free tanks that is great, but do something for rating battle rules. He didn't do any damage. Nothing to say wargaming purely this is madness

[inner jackal]

He's a pro man, just look at that military honor, if only it would work as intended

[proud kite]

This, rating should have gatekeeping. Like 2000 games played or something with atleast a couple tech tree tanks at tier 7 and up

[mint nexus]

@proud kite something like that, it's all upto wargaming.

[wind light]

That means wg not gonna do anything

[sacred lantern]

2k games aint enough, should be atleast 10k

[half badge]

orrr maybe people have to learn how to adjust to the teams in ratings and play according to what they do, it's not that hard

[inner jackal]

Ratings should be a privilege. That's all.
Privilege.

[carmine raptor]

Yep

[ocean night]

4.5k impossible to reach it.
4490 points... and 4 loss in a row
How this mafia works?

[mossy mortar]

why do i wait for 5 minutes to get into a rating battle?!

[ocean night]

mm is deciding who must win

[mossy mortar]

yep

[wispy gorge]

@ornate spoke

[ornate spoke]

Why ping for no reason?

[ornate spoke]

Everyone don't work here. Plus spamming that's kind of messages...

[arctic osprey]

how to obj260 in 4k+ rating battles

[ocean night]

Yay.... i must do some tickets to remove some toxic noobs

@arctic osprey u can't

[wind light]

When new camo hops in?

[echo wadi]

Some trollers On rating battle even they toxic

[fallen mortar]

Not getting to 5k smells like skill issue

[sharp path]

Good question

[arctic osprey]

I seem to do better with 53tp than obj260 seems like a same tank with slightly improved gun and speed that fights t10s

[arctic osprey]

anyone else feel like they need to dedicate at least 5 hours for rating sessions? first 10-40 games are usually just 0:7 simulators

[ornate spoke]

lmao that's ridiculous no ace, and only 4 points.. should've been at least 20

[wet vortex]

I dont have the nerves to play rating battles. No fun, no competition and not rewarding. If anyone wants to play ratings play it second half of the month, your team will get less players in calibration. In mm wise as wrong as it sounds its bad version of randoms, mm is just worse, if accompanied by bad rng the rage intensifies. So this is why almost none play ratings.

[proven creek]

I ammorack 2 tank in 1 battel

[regal cosmos]

That’s the MM working as intended. +-1 for each tank class with mediums and lights counted as the same class

[copper mauve]

idk man

your team had the better turrets

maybe shoulda lemming’d to medium side

[orchid light]

I don't think the mm is worse. What I usually see happen is the battle is pretty even, and then there is a key turning point that one team capitalizes on. Idk, in ratings I find both teams are better than pub battles, just because you get steam rolled or beat doesn't mean the mm is bad all the time.

[zinc hare]

Seems everyone had a bad day on Ratings

[wet vortex]

Thank you for your reply. Idk mm and all other state above 4k rating, maybe it is much more balanced. I stopped playing after 4k rating, to get the camo for my 50tp prot. playing 50+ battles was just an agony.

[indigo laurel]

... I'm confused.. what do you need the autoclicker for in wotb?? Or is it something on the outside of the game?

[grave harness]

Ratings in a nutshell

[azure kite]

Outside of the game i have some bad thing on tablet but i dont want to talk

[kindred moon]

Sooo if I am top 8, I recieve both 40 certificates and 1k gold right?

[tawdry adder]

How old Is that video

[grave harness]

6-5 months old I would say

[tawdry adder]

Nice

[regal cosmos]

The rewards are an attempt at that, but they haven’t gotten around to increasing the rewards yet. Must be low priority for them

[brisk ridge]

why are queue times so long. im just trying to grind to 5k before the season ends and i have to wait 5 minutes for a game

[ornate spoke]

bc no one plays the mode because the rewards suck and the players suck and it's insanely toxic

[grave harness]

That’s normal

[robust mulch]

The rating is a trash now i got 2k players and im in 4.9k

[deep grotto]

I’m at 5k+ and can’t find a match

[vale timber]

i am 4k5 and i fall always with 3k avg ????? i am on losestreak of 7 bc this bot dont know how to play

[deep grotto]

I’ve been waiting for an hour wg pls

[arctic osprey]

stop playing ratings. I'm tired of playing a game daily to keep my rank

[deep grotto]

Thankfully I just got in one and got 30 points from it, at 5.1k now (:

[vale timber]

10 games 9 defeat i am at 4k5 and i fall with silver is that normal ? yesterday i was always with diamond and platine

[deep grotto]

And I just lost those 30 points in two games nice

[vale timber]

i loss 200 🙂

[regal cosmos]

You play to your strengths and consider what your team lacks in tanks. You’ll get extra T10 heavies or tds for that, so you make use of that

[stuck vortex]

ratings are trash

[arctic osprey]

doesn't matter, as long as you perform you'll climb. It took me 300games to get from 3.3k to 5.1k with 51% wr but I did it

[brisk ridge]

this is becoming a problem

[copper mauve]

playing non-meta tanks is a gamble in ratings

[opaque edge]

Wow

[arctic osprey]

just checked and yeah NA has only 16 players at 5k+ rating 🤯

[eager sparrow]

Like nobody on na plays ratings

[wet vortex]

If anyone seeks for tiny touch of fairness rating battles should be exclusive only to tier 10 and tech tree tanks. No premium or collector only tech tree and tier 10. Tier 10 is the only balanced tier in wot blitz atm.

[full idol]

tbh its somehow more fun that regular battles

[keen moon]

Aurfredor [BOLD]#8515 was muted

[proven creek]

Happy new year

[warm otter]

yay HAPPY NEW YEAR
WG i help u find a bug ,gotta fix it

[tawny jolt]

what bug?
looks normal to me, cuz the one who gets the same point as you but after you will be placed above you

[copper mauve]

wait, today was last day of season no?

IM AT 3988 RATING OOF

[vale timber]

hey where we find the camo ?

[ornate spoke]

go on the tanks you got more than 50 battles and it should be on their camo list @vale timber

[vale timber]

thanks

[paper oxide]

Did you get the lorraine fearless parts?

[arctic osprey]

only camo for now

[ruby void]

How to get 3000 gold league

[halcyon iris]

h

[sacred crypt]

If anyone knows the real bonus code, write it down, gentlemen.

[rain kraken]

Not yet, it always takes some time, usually about 2 days

[pastel axle]

There were like 10 between Christmas and new year

[daring loom]

Nice

[molten shore]

Im wondering when we have mad games. We havent done it in months. And its my 2nd fav gamemode. Pls open mad games 🥺

[opaque edge]

Congrats on getting the tank so quick, took a lot of effort I would believe

[wind light]

@kindred moon gg m8, if there was other camo for 5k+ I would go for it to, just hold it by 4k camo this month🤠

[hardy igloo]

I read that as “fatherless” lmao

[rain kraken]

I think developers could implement something more for the ratings. I mean some new rewards to attract more players to participate in this game mode. I think some profile background could work, but it's just my idea. We would need it, because ratings are not so popular. Sometimes I wait 7+ minutes for the game, and if you lose after such a long time of waiting, you get kinda frustrated.

[sharp path]

Sweaty boy

[covert cedar]

HEHE😁👍🏻

[elfin burrow]

Flex Supremo👆 ⬆️

[ornate spoke]

Asia is ez

[warm otter]

u got it last month XD, btw congrats

[sharp path]

@covert cedar sweaty boy

[glossy bramble]

I saw someone with 4.5k rating after calibration, how good u have to be.. my best where i started was 4k

[gilded flax]

does anyone have a t22-medium with the 5k rating camo? if so could you please send a screenshot <3

[daring loom]

Here ya go kaz

Oof two seconds too late xD

[gilded flax]

thank you guys xD

[candid quiver]

can anyone help me: I got top 40 for ratings in December but I haven't received the parts. Top 40 on NA was 4.7k so I was platinum so I think thats why I havent gotten the parts yet. I have 80 parts so I just need the 20 parts I earned in December for the Fearless

[daring loom]

Might have to wait a few days?

[candid quiver]

That might be true but it's very abnormal for the parts to be given after ratings have started for the new season. When I got my 80 parts during the Autumn Season, I received them within 2 days after ratings have ended. Right now waiting is the only thing I can do so I hope for the best

[candid quiver]

its not rlly that NA doesnt care about ratings it just the fact our server is underpopulated compared to others

[primal scroll]

was it srsly that low
is there a way to check rating leaderboard on wg website is wiped now

[candid quiver]

only 15 hit diamond (Molley was around 5.2k - molley was #1) and top 50 went as low as 4.4k/4.5k

[primal scroll]

interesting

[candid quiver]

ive never seen the ratings queue go over 50 players across all 4 tiers - thats how many people play ratings

[gilded flax]

Hm, NA really is underpopulated in ratings I see , 5.2k and 1st? Wow

[candid quiver]

well also last szn was only 1 month long, during the Autumn szn which was 2 months, molley got to 5.9k still not crazy but better

[gilded flax]

Dang

[candid quiver]

no there are others its just that molley loves ratings and this slowmode is killing me

wait im just curious, in EU rating games, will the entire lobby be in the same league? Ex like all plat lobby? On NA we get a mix of gold, plat, and diamond in 1 lobby

[open moon]

Hi

[rain kraken]

You have to be in diamond to receive parts. If you are only in platinum, you won't get anything

[cursive timber]

Does anyone know how many more seasons will rating battles give the Lorraine fearless

[regal cosmos]

A year atleast

[cursive timber]

Kk

[arctic osprey]

playing since season started and games are fiestas of people going in random places. Feel like low dpm slow tanks are unplayable

[cerulean sphinx]

anyone know when we can unlock is6 fearless again?

[ornate spoke]

You can't unlock IS 6 Fearless anymore tho

[wind light]

@daring loom How about this? 🙂

[daring loom]

Niiice

[cerulean sphinx]

my 183 looks more shinny

[opaque edge]

Imho, 4k cammo looks much much nicer 🙂
I love how it looks on FV med, 1er med, 215b, B-C 🙂

[tender flame]

Stay away from ratings bots

[cerulean sphinx]

this is best look

[tender flame]

Wg make New system for ratings People coming in and just ruining our games, People who cant survive few secounds against better player

[rain kraken]

The MM is okay, the main problem is that there isn't enough people, so you get lower leagues into your team (but also enemy)

[tender flame]

Sorting players by ratings points is useless when you get People who Got Lucky on calibration

[wind light]

Look good but 5k camo is just meh, Hope new 5k camo comes soon cuz i dont like the 5k camo like all other 3 camo's before, "Raiting Ace" Camo was perfect.
@opaque edgeWhat about this one😂

[cerulean sphinx]

we need 3d skins for 5k+

[primal scroll]

that would be quite a lot of effort to implement cuz you'd need to style the attachments on a 3d camo for every t7-10 tank in the game

[gilded edge]

thats not true, depending on the region and how long the season is there are certain amounts of parts for a spot. If ratings is not played a lot in a region you might also get into those spots without actually being in diamond league

[rain kraken]

I'm just dumb probably

[gilded edge]

They write that because in most regions and seasons to get a part you will need to get into diamond. If for some reason not enough players play ratings in a region and still get into the spots that receive a part but are not in diamond they will get parts. If there are 100 spots and only 75 players get into diamond somehow the other 25 that only are in platinum will get parts as well. They dont give out less parts then specified just because someone doesnt get into diamond. Look at the EU leaderboard right now. No one is in diamond yet but look at the rewards.

[rain kraken]

Ah you dont get it, you just have to be in the diamond to get the parts

[gilded edge]

@rain kraken sorry but you dont get it...

[rain kraken]

Yes it shows how it would be now, but if it would finish like this, no one get the rewards......Help me somebody to explain pls

[gilded edge]

Are u sure? I mean in EU everyone needs to get into Diamond league as its 100+ players reaching it every time. So the spots are taken by diamond players here.

[gilded edge]

My best was 4,4k calibration so far - I won all 10 games and got decent damage out. Its possible.

[primal scroll]

Because he won and you didn't

[agile sphinx]

Loses a game
Doesn't even lose points like you should, just doesn't go up much
"So unfair"

[cerulean sphinx]

dude, be happy when you get points when losing

[regal cosmos]

Yes the Defender Mk1 got too many points. They should get 2 at most

[candid quiver]

yep ur right. I sent a ticket to wargaming about this and they confirmed it that only diamond players get the parts. Very infuriating since it displayed my name on the leaderboards with 25 parts next to it. I prob spent at least 20 hours in queues just to get games and u literally have to spend ur entire life in ratings to get diamond in NA. It doesn’t make me feel any better since I was 5 mmr off the entire tank 2 szns ago but got 11th and got 80 parts. Now I got to play another season of ratings and get diamond before I lose my mind

[rain kraken]

Aaaaah gl. It's pain on the EU as well, but you wait max about 5 minutes

[fallen mortar]

well to get parts you dont have to wait long but if youre trying to get top 20 or better youll end up with longer waiting times then 5mins
at 5,5k it took me sometimes over 20mins to find a match

[candid quiver]

It’s different on NA. Average queue time for top 50 is 10 mins

[opaque edge]

Aprooved 😄

[vital tangle]

just watched someone lose 150 in ratings

[ornate spoke]

lmao

[keen moon]

Hedgehog#5158 was muted

[cursive timber]

What is the max calibration league result for ratings

[compact oriole]

max I've seen was around 4650
but Im assuming there is no upper limit to callibration

[rose stag]

That means you haven't seen any Diamond League players??

Oh

[compact oriole]

we are talking about calibration

it would have been quite worrisome if I had not seen players at 5k+ with 8k rating games

[ornate spoke]

I just realised I got the ratings camo for last season on tanks I didn't even had played for 50 games lol...

[rain kraken]

You need to have 50 battles on the tier to get the camo for your most played tank on that tier, so you don't need 50 battles on one tank

[ornate spoke]

pog

[cerulean sphinx]

im gonna start doing some rating, pls to all tryhards: stay away for an hour pls i beg you

[inner jackal]

no, for all the noobs to stay away

[opaque edge]

Rastaman, good man 🙂

[half gull]

Top whatever players get parts regardless of which league they finish in. It’s the following players that have to be within diamond to earn any parts. Top Placement within a region determines ur certificates, irrelevant of league. It’s diamond league that determines whether the next players get their minimum 5-10 parts

[sleek hawk]

How much damage do you need to avg in tier 8/10 to achieve say a 4K or 5K rating?

[primal scroll]

if you scrolled up you'd find that isn't the case
#rating-battles message

[rain kraken]

If you have read few messages above, you would know.

[half gull]

ty for attitude

[cerulean sphinx]

wargaming do something about trolls in rating, we had t49 rushing and die at 6:40

[undone pulsar]

Their points go down

[cerulean sphinx]

doesnt matter if you are 3000 points higher, you get in the same mm

[undone pulsar]

Entirely different problem

Wg clearly doesn’t care about making ratings a worthwhile mode

[regal cosmos]

To do that they need to give people more reasons to play ratings. The reason gold/silver can meet platinum/diamond is because the queue times would be too long and that alone will drive people away more than their enjoyment from facing similar players. Anyway, its not really guaranteed that someone in platinum or diamond will be the good player you desire, just more likely, as some battle spamming can compensate for a lack in skill

[fallen mortar]

well thats called your skill cap

cant get higher = skill issue
the only thing limiting you in ratings is time

[vale timber]

true but its the start. wait few days and rating is gonna be better

[smoky jacinth]

Joker, happens less in ratings than public battles, just suck it up and do as much dmg as u can. No big deal really. Ratings should be more popular than public mode because the battles r more competitive. Just need WG to work on incentives other than rewarding just top players.

[hardy jolt]

Don't run 3 game modes at the same time. There are not enough players in rating battles, so matchmaking will take anywhere from 2 min to 10 min sometimes to enter in 1 battle only.

Suggestion: Run special game modes like uprising, gravity.... etc when rating battles are over for each particular month, because 3 to 4 days there will not be new rating battles season, so many will play special game modes. In this way matchmaking will be quicker in both regular & rating mode or regular & special game modes as many players will be available for selection.

[rain kraken]

Yep, it is

[wispy remnant]

Premium tanks should be banned in Ranked Battles, then they would be even more honest. In regular tanks, you need to train your crew and unlock all modules, but everyone can buy a premium tank.

[opaque edge]

Then it will be 6 emils 😄

[warped rain]

When were your last rating round over 4.3k? It’s definitely not like that, 53tp are played also

[eager basin]

I agree

[austere vortex]

(eu)Like i reached the plattinium( League during the autumn season, and so didn't received any camouflages nor the permament avatar

[gilded edge]

you only receive a temporary avatar and the camouflages will be unlocked on your most played tank per tier automatically (but only if that tier has above 50 games in that rating season)

[fallen mortar]

And if the tank is a tank that can receive camos

[rain kraken]

It was 2 month season, didn't you get decalibrated?

[gilded edge]

wouldnt u just get compensation then like when you already have the camo on a tank and get it again?

[fallen mortar]

Yeah you get credits but people tend to wonder why they don't receive a camo in that case too

[agile sphinx]

flips coin 6 times
Gets 6 tails
"Wow this coin is so broken pls fix it"

[keen moon]

404/FOUND#4274 was banned

[undone pulsar]

That would be the first of many steps needed to make the mode actually good

[rain kraken]

WG could at least test something...for example no premiums as you said

[keen moon]

JokerMG93#3527 was muted

[tender flame]

Like that would help, you can get to tier 8 in a day

[keen moon]

sousoudu37#1127 was muted

[vale timber]

hey the matchmaking exist in ranked (real question)

[agile adder]

Then r they gonna be giving out tech tree tanks for Ratings rewards 💀

[orchid light]

I've been in que for 13 minutes...

[drifting plover]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-movie-james-cameron-western-gif-17538858

[opaque edge]

😄 😄

[gilded edge]

EU players cant relate 👀

[proud kite]

just 183 things

[opaque edge]

-189 points!!! Wow

[elfin yew]

i feel u bro

[fervent brook]

Please Switch the Tank,
WE want a New fearless !
Many players have thé Loraine fearless so just Switch the reward
IS not attractive if thé same tank stay for 1 years, bored

[proud kite]

Enemy 183 rushes our 183 hiding behind a house, both end up doing no damage. Lmao

[arctic osprey]

it would be better if they would just reward coins that you could spend in rating shop for tanks/gold and other stuff to keep people playing

[opaque edge]

Not sure what this guy on about, Lorraine is just just introduced, what is there to change? Handful of ppl have the tank.

Although, I do agree, other means of motivation to play Ratings is somewhat overdue... Season coins was a good start as you actually can spend those on some interesting items (if saved enough of them)

[regal cosmos]

He has the tank and wants to keep playing ratings but without a new tank to grind for he is not motivated enough

[gilded edge]

season coins will come back during tournament season to ratings

[cerulean sphinx]

pls ban toxicity in rating

[undone pulsar]

Define toxicity

[daring loom]

Kinda hard to ban “toxicity” considering people always find loopholes on how to insult teammates/ enemies when they’re salty in ratings.
Idk what u mean exactly by toxicity but I’m assuming you mean people saying inappropriate things in the chat.

[opaque edge]

I noticed one trend and it's that in ratings ppl are more toxic, like even before the game there is one or two who sends everyone to hell or speaks about one's mother and etc
This kinda ppl could be filtered very quickly by a "playing mods", ppl who have console rights to ban ingame ppl (at least from chat) for X amount of time

[gilded edge]

yes ratings is very toxic but you can also just disable the chat and still work with your team not seeing any of their rants

[opaque edge]

That is a workaround for a long lasting problem... not a solution, but works, I agree

[sullen lark]

Wow i thought toxicity was worst in ramdoms

[opaque edge]

There are good fellas 🙂 not all is lost (:

[inner jackal]

this is the worst u can do in any team games, chat has its value and tbh if ur getting soft bc of some words, theres a problem with both parties

[gilded edge]

I do not disable my chat for that reason but I can understand people who do…

[opaque edge]

I am in no way or shape are offended by what ppl write. It's not about that. It should not be happening at all. You can say someone is bot, cant play or whatever, but should never go to insults and rest. No need for that 🙂

[muted shuttle]

Some of us do have such rights but the best way is to create a ticket so that each individual violation can be tracked and the penalty issues can be longer and longer.

[inner jackal]

is there a way to get such players tempo/perma banned instead of chat banned, cause sometimes its for the better to get rid of said players

[gilded edge]

doesnt that happend when they get loads of penalties including lots of chatbans at some point?

[inner jackal]

idk how that work as WG isnt transparent about their system, which is weird.
imo they try to extend their chat ban but they will perma ban when they rig (ig???)

[muted shuttle]

They have to be banned multiple times in order to get banned permanently. But people usually don’t create tickets only complain on discord, forum, Facebook etc so WG doesn’t have any evidence about the violations.

[inner jackal]

if only their military honor system would have worked. 😔
it has been so abused nothing can be taken for granted.
i once carried 3 games singlely handed just to be awared with a warn for being innactive .

[muted shuttle]

Such warn was definitely not because of those 3 games. In order to be receive such warn multiple people have to report you for the same thing over extended period of time, not just once or twice during 3 battles.

[gilded edge]

rly? I thought if 2 or more player report you for something in the same game you get it added to your honors?

[inner jackal]

yeah but my point is that deff it can be abused.
tbh honor system was the closest we ever gotten as a ticket alternative, but it failed sadly. ppl with hundreds of dislikes still roam free in this game.

[gilded edge]

exactly, how can a player get a 5 star honor rating with over 500 dislikes and still be able to play this game

[daring loom]

How many games does this player have? Just curious

[gilded edge]

92k... but still his recent honors are 470 vs 24 provocative complaints

[daring loom]

Damn that’s a looooot of games

[opaque edge]

Do you wanna hear something about this? - WG do not care about any message sent to you privately after the match. They won't take any action with reasoning: Enable Friend only chat in game to not receive messages privately.

As for the game chat during the battle: when an individual is really speaking harsh (not to or about me even) I do take time and log a ticket about it.

[muted shuttle]

You weren’t talking about your PMs, you said “before battle” which means you meant chat violations in the battle, not after the game in your PMs.

Re 2:, that’s the right thing to do!

[opaque edge]

Yeah I know, I was talking about in-game chat.
To me, personally, treating ability to disable Private messages outside Friends to avoid bad wording is - shifting responsibility from them to people.
Again - a workaround, not solution

[inner jackal]

it was a cheap and fast solution
surprised?
im not.

[gilded edge]

well I have someone in the clan with nearly 200k games and he has 13 unsporting/ provocative complaints only so even for 92k over 500 is just wayyyyy to much

[opaque edge]

The ratio of positive vs negative should be much bigger. Like if you have 5+, but get 2 or 1- = you get zeroed out. Or something along these lines. The dirty players will be easy to spot/idenfity and take measure with it: be it automatic or manual by admins/mods.

but who cares? - dont think WG cares enough about Toxicity, bad mouthing.

Tools are there, but not used correctly for intended purposes.

[regal cosmos]

Military honor works on people ‘reporting’ someone for a bad action without actually needing to provide any proof of it. It simply assumes that if enough people have downvoted, then it’s true the person did what they downvoted them for. But downvotes are often given for reasons other than what they are intended for. I don’t think military honor will work even if they fix the stars displayed, as long as people can downvote without proper evidence of it. Maybe if WG could add a feature ingame to report someone and also mark times from the replay that it occurred on? Less effort needed so people are more likely to report offenses

[snow rock]

Military honour makes me feel good when I downvote players who pen 1/8 shots fired

[vale timber]

why its so hard to grind ? i am at 4k4 i do 2k5 and 2k assit and i take +20...

[gilded edge]

at least WG did admit it doesnt work and they will rework it

[opaque edge]

Did they? When?

[gilded edge]

Wasn’t that in the #devs-answers a while ago? Edit: yes it was 👇🏼 @opaque edge

Is there a way for WG to automatically ban all the players with the “extremely untrustworthy” tag in military honor?
First of all, military honor is not a tool for banning players. However, as it was said in our previous Q&A sessions and streams, military honor doesn't work the way we planned and we work on a new feature. Speaking of bans we use other tools to collect data about players that should get banned and issues punishments if necessary.

[graceful crypt]

military honor is so pointless lol

[fallen mortar]

ive received similar things few years back

was a low tier match when 3 enemys decided to report me for inactivity because they couldnt pen a hetzer kame and i actually got the notification ingame that people complained about me but it didnt show up in my military honor but also had situations where i got the mark in the military honor but no notification that people complained so im really unsure how that system works at all

[gilded edge]

@cerulean sphinx They did indeed but I wonder what they can do to make it more effective

[muted shuttle]

The system needs to verify the reports and they actually have to come over extended period of time. You can’t get banned because of one battle.

In terms of military honour naturally

[fallen mortar]

i didnt get a ban just smth like a warning

[rich orchid]

That's low for 92k battles

[lapis lotus]

ye, that's true. you technically have so much rage reports, but they doesn't show up in military honour. WG pls fix or something

[arctic osprey]

at what tier? that's great for t7/t8, average for t9 and good enough for t10 (talking about grinding at quick pace to 5k). Also from my experience rating gains also depend on your performance relative to your teammates which is why you lose less and gain more doing same dmg while being top 1 at dmg generally (which is why losing 0:7 with decent dmg is preferred over 6:7 loss) + you gain more if avg rating of your team was lower than enemy teams and less if the opposite was the case. Gains and losses also decrease as your rating increases (if you keep playing with sub 4k rating players). Again, this is just my experience so this all might not be true.

[ripe copper]

Can't get banned in one battle?.
Mmm.. let's say your in wot pc in the older versions when you could damage ur allies, then you just start shooting every teammate you see, then you get banned because of one game, your team will be able to carry on with 1 teammate lost because it's a 15 vs 14 after all.
And now let's say your in blitz, and you push your teammate to his death for the enemies or block him so he can't fire or move, and that means 2 tanks gone and your team is kinda down by 2 tanks, which ofcourse is a huge effect on a 7v7 game.
So the violator is supposed to get banned from 1 battle, not getting a 1 day chat ban or getting banned after an eternity of battles.

I forgot why did I write this lol.
I think I shouldn't discuss that here.

[obtuse crater]

If you really want to help ratings battles and help stop the bad vibes then limit the mode to players with at least 5k- 6k battles. I had battle after battle yesterday with 2 or more players scoring zip, nada, goose egg. I had one battle where I scored 2491 , three team mates scored zero, two more scored less than 500 and the last scored 1600. Had 1 teammate with 24 battles running a blaze and only two other teammates that had over 1500 battles. I finally quit playing in frustration at the poor performance of the team. In my opinion this is why you see so much ill will among players.

[vale timber]

thats not normal in rating

[vague canyon]

yes

[rain kraken]

It's normal in EU as well

[muted shuttle]

We were discussing reports via military honour, not via tickets themselves for pushing etc but good point.

[spice wasp]

Lol 193 avg dmg

[solemn adder]

yo can somebody get more than me

damn that's true 😅

nahh 30 mins not enough prolly like 2 or 3 hours for rating

yep

[vale timber]

hey i have a question its only the 100 1st players who get part of lorraine ?

[arctic osprey]

this is for EU

[vale timber]

thanks ! :)

[ornate spoke]

That is Bcs of ur calibration

[cursive geode]

Ower powerd chito 285 points for nothing

112 is cheat 3 kill but just 56 point….all is logik

[inner jackal]

have u tried doing better in game, more points come , also that chi to just calibrated so thats why he got such high points

[gilded flax]

could’ve been the calibrations

[warped rain]

More than two minutes afk -> 1week rating battles ban
That would be the right duration

[dawn citrus]

Guys ive got a question

[opaque edge]

Yes?

[inner jackal]

Man had a question and forgot it when slowmode expired

[dawn citrus]

What is considered to be good in terms of rating points? (Tf is this 5 min slow mode btw)

[inner jackal]

4k+
But rating points aren't a good way of measuring how good you are, rather a way of seeing how much free time u have and willing to spend in a game

[dawn citrus]

Okay bcz i just reached 4110 and it told me I was top 937 and I was like wtf lmao. And btw i dont really agree bcz at one point when u play tier 10 ratings when u do bad u loose a lot so it can be well represented

[opaque edge]

But if u spam hundreds of games u sti go up if u do decent

[dawn citrus]

Ye but very slowly no?

[gilded edge]

the more skill you have the less battles you need to spam to get up high

[dawn citrus]

Okay and 35 battles to go from 3600 to 4110 is good?

[gilded edge]

thats decent yes

[dawn citrus]

Nice :) and thx

[umbral swan]

does anyone own a AMX CDA 105? We need 6 players for a YouTube video

[eternal sky]

hi

[compact oriole]

2 tds, a med and 3 heavies are 6 tanks.

[inner jackal]

mAtH

[gilded edge]

he just did not even mention the one regular afk player

[opaque edge]

Looks like, by the score, you guys were picked one by one like lost sheeps

[fast parrot]

make it so that in rating battles there are no armor plates visible, like the realistic game mode. This will make it so that people who have skill and knowledge about the game will get an advantage and they don't have to depend on their teammates to win.

[austere vortex]

It's impossible to get more than 50 points during Ratings (or maybe more idk it just stopped at 50 for me when i did some epic scores)
Back to the subject, i just think that only possibility to get more than 50 points is just the last calibration battle.

[inner jackal]

damn ppl who do 0 dmg in 3 consecutive games should get a timeout, no ticket needed, theres no excuse for that to happen 3 times in a row.

[open crow]

???

[cerulean wadi]

Do not click

[cursive timber]

they really just need to give ratings better rewards and more people a reason to play it, that would solve a few things:

1. long queue times
2. Bad Matchmaking because wargaming wants to minimise ratings queue times
3. Being able to only maybe go against players 1 league above or below u
   4, Seeing the same people over and over again thus keep on fighting same people

[inner jackal]

WG priorities faster queue times instead of a more fair MM output, and that's understandable, majority of player base would like to be put in a match faster, rather than waiting 2m+.
Kinda a bummer, devs had the chance to redo ratings when they added Lorraine fearless as main reward, yet they flopped it hard

[gilded edge]

How often do the camos usually change for ratings?

[rain kraken]

Less than tanks :)

[inner jackal]

what even is 4k+ camo this season, im kinda lazy to grind more and s conq aint making my life easier

[short perch]

Honestly I hope wg adds seasonal coins permanently in the mode, like they do with the 2 months seasons. At that time I felt motivated to play rankings, now i known that I cannot reach diamond easily and won't be able to unlock the Lorraine fearless.
The credit and exp bonus is negligible.

[daring loom]

This wasn’t the last calibration battle. It’s just easier to get more than 50 points when your rating isn’t that high

[gilded edge]

when did it last change?

[daring loom]

This one is the 4k one still

[gilded edge]

season coins are only available during tournament seasons, as we are in between seasons right now there are no coins (and no season coins tournaments) but yes WG needs to do something to make ratings more attractive...

[inner jackal]

Yeah I'm so done, it's so ugly like damn, I won't change my bomfetti on s conq for this 💩

[daring loom]

I mean, the 4k camo does look really good on some tanks and a bit faded on others while the boomfetti camo glows on everything

[austere vortex]

For a example i would get the 4k camo but i already had Rex camo and switched it to "burning mad" cuz got bored of it.

[inner jackal]

Bruh this so wack fr.
Camos are ugly.

[daring loom]

<@&481447501690568709> ⬆️

[daring loom]

5k one looks great imo

[inner jackal]

yeah well s conq cant carry me till 5k, it lacks something

[opaque edge]

I see you mentioning S Conq as main tank. Is this your baby, go to tank for ratings?

[inner jackal]

its my baby since i got it from the snowglobe, being f2p i never really had the chance to have t10 prems/collectors sooo

plus i broke by f2p buy buying a 20k gold box just to get it when it will drop in store, but rng blessed me

[opaque edge]

Nice Globe gift indeed. I got S Conq from a first box year or two ago. Was on my birthday day :D

[daring loom]

Nothing to do with the tank really. Just depends on how much time you spend on ratings

[rain kraken]

You can still play other tier X or lower tiers

[inner jackal]

Boring and ppl at t8 spam prems only

[cerulean sphinx]

Yes i spam also tier 8 premium becouse while climbing in points i can grind credits also, and with the 100% credit bonus its better making credits in rating than normal and i see the difference

[hot zephyr]

do ratings battles have season coins

[rain kraken]

No

[gilded edge]

Not right now

[open crow]

To make the rating mode more popular WG could give permanently coins for victories (not only in the season). Maybe some camo for gold league players who have a certain amount of rating battles (maybe 200 or 300).

[inland sigil]

the plat camo is ugly and u want camos for gold league lol, even the previous avatars were better

[open crow]

Maybe parts of a camo or permanent season coins to attract more people to play rating battles.

[gilded flax]

Got around 70 when I got a 6k game, still possible

[ornate spoke]

F

[austere vortex]

53 tp, Covernaemon , emil 1:
Am i joke to you?

[cerulean sphinx]

Tiger 2, vk100, amx100 90, borsig, pershing, kv4 :
Why forget about me?

[drifting plover]

Emil I is free points :D

[merry flower]

in the currently ratings why the coins are not available?

[inner jackal]

coin season = coins in ratings
not coin season = no coins in ratings

[barren dragon]

Yea kv4 definitely a good tank for rating

[inner jackal]

amx100 90 and vk100 also very good as well smh

[rapid pumice]

it's good for the enemys which can farm your hp

[keen moon]

_SayHi2God#6970 has been warned.

[elfin burrow]

How KV-4? That tank turns slower than battleships. 😅

[inner jackal]

hes trolling guys, damn, yall need to really work on sarcasm/troll detection skills

[cerulean sphinx]

im not trolling, isnt kv4 a decent choice? i always strugle to pen it consistently

[sterile ginkgo]

VKs are better in platinum

[cerulean sphinx]

whats best in diamond then? kv4 or vk?

[elfin burrow]

Wow.
Well it kind of balanced out the argument that only bronze league players do 0 damage.

[cerulean sphinx]

bro this is an assult to my privacy

[inner jackal]

you posted your own profile in this server long ago, your privacy went out the window 🤪 😎

[cerulean sphinx]

yes but now you send it in rating and all people gonna know my noob stats and gonna focus me, thank you very much sir

[inner jackal]

oh no
anyway

[open crow]

You're truly a humble person, I see 😆

[cerulean sphinx]

guys, is enriched emil1 good for making credits in rating?

[heavy sable]

no

[primal scroll]

average troll

[feral herald]

:/

[spice wasp]

I'm sorry but battleships turn way slower than you think :)

[rain kraken]

What happened?

[vague canyon]

many mohax 👀

[regal cosmos]

Allowed as long as they play normally. It’d be hard to prove they were even working together there. One could say they just play well together because same clan, but they lost so it doesn’t matter whether they counted in here

[inner jackal]

fr 👀

[keen moon]

_D4ND4_ [SC1F1]#4188 was muted

[muted shuttle]

Like those 3 points are going to help him))

[woven pilot]

Lol, my personal record

[eternal sky]

t 54

[west sonnet]

Should I use my VK30.02D in rating? The tank seems very good

[rose sentinel]

Your choice but I personally wouldn't, there is simply too much power gap between tier 7 and 8 tanks, and in tier 7 ratings you would often face tier 8s, which have big fear factor (for me) and have big power gaps.

[woven pilot]

Yeah you’re not wrong but in general the teams I got and my performances were good I got some players of good clans in my team so it helped, still there’s one time my team decided going left and after they change for right 2 mins after I was like wtfbro lmao

[echo wadi]

No games modes end of January?

[rapid pumice]

yes but u can't just count on that, i personally try to play ratings competitively and i hate when players in my team just expect to be ez carried

[ornate spoke]

is there any reward for playing ranked battle?

[vale timber]

please can platinium play only with diamond / platinium ... ?

[topaz chasm]

The second half of this page gives information on the various rewards you can receive in rating battles;

https://na.wotblitz.com/en/content/rating-battles/

[vague canyon]

yes if u don't see my reactions 👀

[woven pilot]

You’re right

[open crow]

I don't know and there is no announcement yet but I hope there will be some fun modes in the next days

[scenic comet]

??

[daring loom]

Welcome to ratings

[wind light]

Thats where this server is made for😂

[sturdy wave]

omg i lost a game let me complain about it in world of tanks blitz official discord'

[west sonnet]

ill use lorraine to get the lorraine fearless

[viscid drum]

speaking of which i havent seen any tanks of that line in absolute ages

[cerulean sphinx]

goodluck with using that tank to gather the parts for fearless, i wouldnt do it myself lol

[wind light]

Lorrain isnt that bad, good clip dmg

[inner jackal]

This is like saying don't get shot

[opaque edge]

Lorraine is rly decent tank, dont get nuked in the beginning and later u r deadliest on the map

[woven pilot]

Does Obj 252u is fine in Platinum and enough to reach Diamond without too much difficulty ? I just want to be sure

[ebon prairie]

Try it

[opaque edge]

Nothing can be sure...

[rapid pumice]

not enough players join ratings, so the matchmaking softens the requirements, and starts mixing the leagues

[loud crow]

ik the feeling
i got out with 5k dmg on my yoh and lost cause no one helped
both of our lights rushed and died the only td went afk
and four vs seven has kind of a difference in the numbers

[forest lily]

got a 49.79% WR but iam chilling in Platinum at 4.1k, is that normal?

[vale timber]

yeah and why they are not enough players? bc the rankeds are not to much attractive. Get a tank only if you are top 5 eu and a camo if u have 4k or 5k
for me, wg must introduce more rewards for the players in ranked like steps to reach for get some cool reward like gold credit acc prenium etc...
for exemple (3750 150k credit) (4000 100 gold) etc etc
i hope my english is ok bc im french ;)

[inner jackal]

Finally, I just watched wg vid on the new update, now afk players in ratings lose points, even if their teams win.
HEAVY W!!!

[supple sorrel]

This is fantastic news, love it😍👍

[cursive timber]

yes

[daring loom]

Wow people are happy in the ratings channel! It’s a miracle!😆

[gilded edge]

where is that from?

[sonic sedge]

@supple sorrel about time, just watched the video and came on here to post the same thing 😃🎉

[gilded edge]

what video/ post did I miss? thanks @cursive timber

[cursive timber]

https://youtu.be/eyM-iISw09o

[sonic sedge]

WoTBlitz update video

[compact oriole]

I will wait for the article telling us fully how the system would work instead of giving my 2 cents right away

[inner jackal]

my guess is that they implemented the current AFK system in rating points too, meaning if u do 0 dmg , no matter if u shoot or yolo, you'll get points deducted, and tbh im so excited ratings got a bit of attention

[regal cosmos]

stevo is happy wow

[fallen mortar]

Give it a few days 😂
He'll find an issue

[inner jackal]

his new issue will be he cant get be the top player in loosing team now, which now we can for sure say its skill issue

[sturdy needle]

I never thought this day would come. Ratings might actually be a little less painful to deal with now.

[agile sphinx]

Woohoo let's start blocking greens and playing selfishly so I can gain more points even easier than it was before what a good idea love the changes /s

[agile sphinx]

What a nice way to start a constructive discussion: "ig you're stupid then". Maybe try having an open mind? Or better, try reading #rules ?

Blocking my teammates from shooting leads to more damage because they aren't taking it. That's one very very easy way to farm.

🤦‍♀️ I can acknowledge that the afk system is an improvement. I can also acknowledge that making ratings more selfish is a bad thing without resorting to petty insults for no reason. Fancy explaining why making ratings encourage selfish gameplay is a good thing and won't lead to more annoying teammates?

[keen moon]

_muppet#9752 was muted

[undone pulsar]

@ornate spoke not okay

[keen moon]

_muppet#9752 was unmuted

_muppet#9752 was muted

_muppet#9752 was kicked

_muppet#9752 was banned

[vale timber]

lol

[inner jackal]

tbh honourless shouldnt have said what started this argument, saying it rewards selfishness is arguably the best u can get, cause at the end of the day u play ratings to increase your OWN score, not your teammates, whats the point of battleing for a month for some points to be in the firsts , just so that "someone" says : Oh yeah it rewards selfishness. OK so?.
this thing could have been avoided if someone with a bright yellow color would have shut up and not say something that only frustrated players would say.
with that out the way i think muppet was wrongly banned for this.

[topaz chasm]

Yes

[undone pulsar]

Thank you for assuming, incorrectly of course, why they were banned

Muted for insults, lengthened for insults, banned for insults but please go on about wrongful bans or power abuse 😂

[paper haven]

I dont really know how the rating system will work and what is considered valiant effort, but I can see it rewarding selfish play, it is shifting from the "cooperate as team and win together mindset" to winning or losing doesnt matter as long as I can get the highest xp especially considering that ratings doesn't affect your stats.

[undone pulsar]

It’s always been selfish. Thankfully blitz doesn’t have the pc system where the top xp earner on the losing team doesn’t go down. If it did, it would be far worse

[agile sphinx]

Playing well is playing as part of a team, as this is a team game. Purposefully stopping greens from getting shots is a bad thing, and this just encourages that more. If you think you are going to lose then you sacrifice everything just for more damage, which is an awful mentality to have in a team game. I'm not a frustrated player, and I've examined several times why this system is bad, iirc you were a part of that a couple of times until you simply ignored all my points which doesn't exactly help your case.

It is a team game. It's not a 1v1. Playing well means playing well as part of a team and playing to win not to do damage. You play well, you win more, you get more points. There are other games out there that are solo games, so if you enjoy being selfish then there's plenty of space there for you. Unfortunately this is a team game, and will stay a team game. Ultimately the fastest way to go up points is to win, this just makes it easier for anyone to sit and farm and go up so high ratings will be filled with players that don't belong there and you'll get worse matchups.

The solution is to do the opposite and reward actual good play and actual good players, by making it more win focused. You will get bad teams that will drag you down 10 points, and you will get good teams that'll carry you to +10 points. If you play better, you'll win more and go up. You can try farming but it won't help. This is essentially how WR works, and we all know the sort of people that think WR is team based and isn't a representation of individual skill, and we all know that it's just factually incorrect.

[keen moon]

Óscar#6565 was banned

[fallen mortar]

youre looking for teamplay in a mode where nobody cares about teamplay and where actual teamplay is almost impossible

• caring might not be the right word but its just delusional to rely on a team in that mode

low amount of player = lots of bad player and that means no teamplay because you cant rely on them at all
they dont know when to push
might not use prammo
might not know any reloads
have no situational awareness
and you cant tell if they know that youd for example want to push

since its also point based you cant really tell if our mates are skilled or just some useless battle spammers which in 90% of the cases they are or just some lucky calibration guy that got put 9 times into the winning team while playing like someone with 3 braincells

if taken shots for teammates a lot and its not a suprise to me that they missed thier shots, shot someone else or didnt do anything even remotely useful
playing for your team in ratings is a higher risk then reward

[inner jackal]

Tbh the teams are bad, in both randoms and ratings.
And it's already known that 5/7 players in each team have no clue what's going on.
The new change makes it so that the best of the best, aka, the cream, to climb faster in points.
One thing this game taught me, and it's the same as driving irl, assume everyone around you is dumb, and doesn't have not even the slightest common sense.

As riz mentioned, ratings are dry in terms of good players.
Also ratings are available from T7, which now takes around 2 days of grinding as a new player and then hopping in this supposedly "skilled" gamemode.
WG did great in restricting tanks without 100% crew and not top modules, but there is a need for more restrictions.
Imo, there are 2 kinda simple solutions.
1-either make it more appealing to the player base, increasing the player count with better rewards at the end of season, such as extra gold, credits, BETTER camos and overall other miscellaneous.
2-harsher restrictions, longer queue times, but a more evenly balanced team in terms of points.

Also, as it promotes "toxicity" in gameplay, I've blocked teammates and I'll do it again, if that gets me more damage, most the the players I do block are white wr, not knowing what to do anyway so I'm just making their life's easier.

[inner hawk]

Yeah I’ve waited for over an hour in queue in diamond league just to get a team full of silver-leaguers. If the team is that poor anyways, I would rather have a lower queue time so I can outplay with the quantity of games since the quality of said games is often nonexistent.

[agile sphinx]

@fallen mortar People tend to not play for teamplay because it isn't rewarded, and this is a step in the wrong direction.

@inner jackal It makes it so everyone that camps and farms will gain points easier, that's not exactly "the cream" is it? The ideal solution is increasing playerbase through rewards but WG are reluctant to do that for whatever reason, so you want to make ratings a more accurate description of skill to encourage more better players to play, which this doesn't do at all. It's going to be even easier for a bad player who can camp in an Anni to go up points consistently and overtake a good player that plays well and as part of the team.

[inner jackal]

Camp or no camp, idrc what my team is up to as long as it does damage to the enemy team, e100 camping, fine, I'll try to spot a bit or fall back behind him to use him as a meatshield, either way I'm still gonna make use of this useless oxygen dependant user.
When life gives you lemons, u don't make lemonade, u make lemon pie.
When ratings give u campy teammate u camp with them or spot for them.
I'm more interested in winning than doing damage sometimes, because I know at some point those who camp their way up to high points will stall or even go back due to teams getting slightly better.

[fallen mortar]

i think people dont teamplay because teammates arent reliable because you have no way of knowing for certain if the other player is even slightly decent all you can do is remember good clantags and help those but then again if they dont recognise you they will hesitate to help you

if i meet clanmates i know i can do some pushes and stuff and focus or shield but with randoms its different
teamplay rewards with wins if it works out but currently the risk reward is too much you can try to teamply and shield someone or do trackshots and stuff but end up getting less than for kills because kills> spotting or any kind of assistance

[inner jackal]

I'll never take a shot for a teammate unless I know he's a good player for certainty.
Ain't no way I'm sacrificing my much needed HP for a dust eater

[undone pulsar]

Pub mentality vs comp mentality. You absolutely should take shots for teammates when it makes sense to do so. Whether they stay alive, can shot, can cap etc

[inner jackal]

Care to explain why I should give off my HP for someone who would die anyway, doing nothing.
Ik I'm a better player than him anyway.
Throw the one gun left in game is better for your team than saving some hp,but in those times, with those teams, I'd rather let him get farmed while I farm in return.
Call me egoist, but that's the meta we live in

[undone pulsar]

I just gave reasons why but you’re too arrogant to have even read them

[inner jackal]

Yeah no, I'm not risking to protect someone who doesn't even aim at a tank in the first place, rating teams are bad, I'm half way thru platinum and teams get worse.
Not saving a dust eater from his inevitable death.

[undone pulsar]

You live up to the clan name

Sometimes, if you keep others alive, you win games that you would not have other wise. But you can’t figure that out on your own🙄

Not to mention, you lose points and the enemy gain points when a team mate dies 😂

[agile sphinx]

You can get to a point where you can tell whether someone is reliable or not very quickly based off just a couple of their actions, and if the rating points system was actually worth something you would know there are reliable people when you get put into a high ratings game.

And yeah as said above refusing to take shots for others is not a good thing, it's a liability that good players can and will exploit repetitively

[undone pulsar]

Sure they farm damage and gain more and lose fewer rating points, but that’s at the expense of losing more games… which loses more points

[quartz lake]

rating battles should be based on the individual game play, not if your team wins, you could be stellar and have a bad team

[ornate tinsel]

true

[fallen mortar]

As I said I'm not refusing to do so I'm just careful and even if you're at 5,5k you're still getting people from gold League or even below in some cases

So it's always pretty risky to take a shot for someone
In tours that isn't a problem because you know who you're playing with

[daring loom]

Not bad🤔

[undone pulsar]

Your result specifically is what I think needs to happen more often. Losing but doing well in the process shouldn’t be -40

[daring loom]

Yeah

Oh? Thought the new system was implemented already ⬇️

[gilded edge]

Loosing but doing well is never -40. The new ratings system is not implemented in this season yet.

[undone pulsar]

It depends. It’s certainly one of many reasons why I don’t play ratings anymore

It does happen or at least did

[inner jackal]

no, it will be implemented in february , or at least thats what WG said in their vid

[daring loom]

Ah I didn’t pay attention to that bit lol

[tacit fern]

Noce

[gilded edge]

Object 84 any good for ratings?

[daring loom]

Meh, I don’t really like it tbh. Prefer the LT, even though it has dreadful hun depression

[gilded edge]

both have the same (bad) gun depression, I guess they wont be a Vickers replacement then for ratings?

[cerulean sphinx]

i would never take a shot for an allie unless ik for sure it changes the outcome, so basicly almost never, @inner jackal is right, all people telling he is wrong just want to sound heroic and not selfish in this chat and dont know what really happens in wotb games

[keen moon]

Dr_Scorpio#1926 was muted

[undone pulsar]

I have like 35k games but don’t know what really happens apparently

[regal cosmos]

that assumes you judge perfectly every battle

[charred hemlock]

🤔 i remember sending a message here about obj84, was it deleted? well rip if it was, if not im living in 2 dimensions lol

[azure forge]

nice

[rose sentinel]

my teammate (Lowe) did get +rating points since he did the most effort out of the team

[vale timber]

bc he have 1 more kill than you

[rose sentinel]

understandable.

The battle was a giant trainwreck anyway lol

[rich rover]

🤔

[rocky quarry]

Is this the black hole from the new game mode? :o

[rich rover]

It's just a bug in the map, hahaha👍

[rocky quarry]

:)))

[ornate spoke]

that is unfortunately how the gamemode works

[rose sentinel]

last time I played it I saw like 38 players in the queue, you will see the same heads over and over since there are so few of them

[hexed loom]

High octane in mad games doesn’t damage the engine anymore. Totally cracked

[fallen mortar]

<@&481447501690568709> get it while its hot

[ornate spoke]

is that true?
ok lmao

[undone pulsar]

@hexed loom language

[hexed loom]

Sensitive much lol

[undone pulsar]

Fine

[keen moon]

JonQ#4512 was muted

[spring hinge]

I am stopping here on rating I think, just to much pain of people raging

[rich rover]

😀 👍

[opaque edge]

Well done sir, u deserve a rest 🙂

[undone pulsar]

And a few therapy sessions

[ruby fern]

@undone pulsar more than a few

[sonic sedge]

Seriously looking forward to the upcoming scoring changes !

[rose sentinel]

Heres mine

[fair flax]

Question. When does the Rating Battles Stops? Which date? I can't seem to find it anywhere....

[gilded edge]

its in the news section...

[hollow burrow]

I was interested to see that Quickybaby's video on the problems with WOT's rating battles is equally true for Blitz. Seeing that they're updating rating scoring in Blitz but keeping the same system is extremely disappointing. It's only losely skill based at best at the moment, and often disproportionately rewards bad players.

Winning is the only thing that matters. Winning more is the main mark of player skill. Having .35 spots per game in the WT (not saying that you should be trying to spot in in, just that it's a mark of extreme passive play) and averaging 2500 damage at a 49% win ratio over hundreds of games and using that to climb to diamond should not be a thing.

Again, it's incredibly disappointing to see that WG are still rewarding secondary marks of player skill rather than the primary one, which is ability to make the decisions and take the actions necessary to win the game. Every game being played by a player who is trying their best to win is the context that gives stats meaning. Without it, they're just numbers. So, rewarding the number not the thing that gives the numbers meaning is incredibly toxic for the game.

I really hope WG will go to a pseudo-Elo system which will 1) stop rank inflation/meaningfully limit maximum rank and make the system more competitive for people who don't spam games at the start of the season and 2) reward actual player skill not secondary metrics that aren't relevant because often players are playing to pad the metrics rather than win.

[late mural]

Very well said above.

[ornate spoke]

Sometimes, it's painful to see some of those who must grind 600, 700,..., or even more than thousand games in ratings to enter the diamond, or even platinum league.

Not because of their grindings itself, but their sense of autism and pointless ranting on teammates when in fact they have plenty of rooms for their time to blame and look back of themselves.

[heavy sierra]

no skillbased or even leaguebased matchmaking... just grinding up to dia has nothing to do with competitive gameplay.. sad to see ratings getting more and more like normal games..

[undone pulsar]

Skill based mm would be terrible

[heavy sierra]

yea, why you want to proof your skill against equally experienced players.. so terrible

[undone pulsar]

What’s your win rate? I want to make an example

[fallen mortar]

skill based mm so that we have 0% accs clubbing in ratings because ratings doesnt affect stats

amazing

so even less players play rating because the 60 and 70%ers cant even get into matches anymore

if you use the term skill based then at least know what it means
because what u described isnt skill based at all its exactl the way it is rn POINT based but there isnt enough players so youre getting put with people above and below

[heavy sierra]

idc bout wr. and thats the point, i would rather have 50% and some more exiting battles than just looking for wins..

skill-based in ratings means for me i dont have silver and gold league players in team when i am plat or dia..

my wr 59,3 or sth like that.. but i know YOU are the one who fears to drop wr.. lol

how we can improve ourself when you are playing the whole time with humanoid bots?! i dont get it..

[undone pulsar]

I guarantee you that if you were a 60% player matched only against a 60% players, you would be furious that it’s a sweat fest and you only winning at 50%

[undone pulsar]

Your win rate can’t drop in ratings lol

You could actually do some research and see how people have reacted and reviewed skill based mm especially in recent games like cod vanguard

There’s three easy ways to fix ratings

First thing. 5v5. Far more emphasis on team play and more room to work a map. This creates drastically more dynamic gameplay and freedom. Risk taking will be rewarded and heavily punished when done poorly. Also massively speeds up the queue time

Second. Rating point range limits. Either only two rankings in one match - silver/gold for example or 1500 point spread from the highest number to the lowest

Third. Rewards. Each ranking gives tokens you can spend in a ratings store tab. Tanks, camos, avatars, backgrounds, credits, gold, free xp and boosters. The higher your rank, the more tokens you get at the end of a season. Tanks would take several seasons of saving up tokens for but would be exclusive to ratings. Also, certain shop items are exclusive to a certain rank and require you to finish at that rank or higher

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

[ruby fern]

@undone pulsar wh would be to lazy to read that

[heavy sierra]

you ask bout wr... lol waiting for your example lol and yeah when i saw how players reacted to skill based mm.. all this purple pros who filled their underpants..

[undone pulsar]

Uh. For starters I gave my example. Purple players for the most part don’t waste their time on ratings lol

Most are either playing pubs or comp

[heavy sierra]

yea tedtalk.. lol at least better than any i saw. your proposals are great. anyway, if you guys like it like its now, its ok. i dont like it and its ok too. i can imagine its hard for wargaming to balanced this game in any direction. thanks for conversation, the rest i would like say is not topic of #rating-battles happy tanking! 🚀

[short perch]

Don't agree on your first point, it would encourage even more people to play heavies, even more than now where usually heavies are at least 3 per team or more.
A permanent shop to spend the currency earned during the rankings is a great idea

[undone pulsar]

You could easily set tank type limits

[crimson schooner]

if im best player in diamond league can i say that im the best player in the europe

[undone pulsar]

It’s awful now. It’s a grind where you scrape your head against the wall every battle. However, skill based mm isn’t the solution. Tighter team spreads will keep enough of a difference but without being overly sweaty. Admittedly it may be tricky to get down at first but it’s something that can be dialed in. I think we can all admit, someone with 2200 shouldn’t be in a match with someone at 5400

[undone pulsar]

No lol. You’re just the highest successful rating spammer

[vale timber]

hmm silver really ?

[undone pulsar]

It’s incredible that there’s a 2426 point spread when the lowest person has 2745…

As I said above, 2 league or 1500 point spread max would work so much better

[regal cosmos]

They had that at the start but I guess they couldn’t get queue times low enough without removing it

[undone pulsar]

Why I suggest 5v5😏

[regal cosmos]

Smaller maps too?

[undone pulsar]

I’ve really debated that

I had three ideas.

1. Keep the maps full sized and make everything way more dynamic. Lights and mediums would have so much more mobility opportunities. High risk high reward

2. Half sized maps, eliminate supremacy. The issue here though is that maps become very critical. Poor map shrinking could create a lot of bottleneck / choke points and stagnant gameplay

3. Somewhere between 2/3 or 3/4 sized maps. Perhaps the best of both worlds

[compact oriole]

Before I make a full length post about this I want to ask: Does anyone feel like some maps have more weight in the map pool when playing rating / some maps have less weight in the map pool?

[autumn whale]

hol up a sec, next season the new point rewarding system starts. at least wait and see how it'll be screwed then before changing the already existing gameplay.

[hollow burrow]

0. stop rating being assigned based on some hidden formula of damage dealt, spotting, assistance, etc. Win as a team, lose as a team.

I can only imagine how bad/frustrating it is in NA, because of how tiny your ranked player base is, but in asia most of our top rated players every season are obvious trolls. You watch their gameplay and they're sitting back left hill in an IS-7 farming damage rather than playing to win the game (I genuinely saw a top 5 player doing that). They're completely unwilling to trade HP for meaningful map state advantages or gun advantages, because doing so will increase their win rate but lower their performance/allow other people to carry.

The way the system is set up at the moment encourages toxic individualist gameplay rather than team play.

[hollow burrow]

Truee, rating inflation is a massive problem, which is why we need to move to an Elo-like system, as in most other competitive games. Higher you are above average of your team, the more you lose on a loss. How high your rating goes is determined by how good you are at winning, and eventually you will cap out if you don't get better at winning. Right now, because the higher above average you are, the less points you lose on a loss, it feels like rating points scale near infinitely with games played as long as you're producing OK performance metrics.

IMO, the biggest problem with your 5v5 suggestion for increasing dynamism in play by (presumably) limiting vision resources available to the other team is that right now, the ranked system disproportionately rewards people who are alive longer. So people still won't take risks because they just want to ensure they're the last alive so they have the most opportunities to shoot someone, particularly to limit their rating loss on a loss, or even make gains on a loss (and given that rating point losses appear to be relative to other player's performance, directly increase the losses everyone else takes as a result).

This system is borked lol, IDK how they came up with the idea. They just played a league of legends game and had their entire team go 0/5 while they were 3/3 and decided that the law of averages doesn't apply to their game or something.

[rain kraken]

I don't think it's legit
There is discordx.gift, not only discord.gift, I think it's scam, could you look at that <@&481447501690568709>