rating-battles

[round skiff]

If you're on more points you might lose more compared to how much you gain but you still lose less

[ornate spoke]

deal with the NA server teams first then talk to me about "complaining" lmao

[primal urchin]

Bronze best rating because it is more versatile than silver, gold, and diamond, silver and gold too soft, gold and diamond don’t have much uses other than jewelry or computer parts for gold, bronze is more inert than silver, and a better conductor both in terms of thermal and electrical than platinum.

[ornate spoke]

gold is a better conductor than bronze though you have to give it that
also technically bronze is an alloy so you can't really compare it

[candid jackal]

i saw this player (team rwby) in a replay in yt

[eager sparrow]

Hello ratings players

[pliant cairn]

Vodka

[opaque edge]

I like when you receive some abusive text after saying hi to your team in ratings 🙂

[ornate spoke]

So your favourite tank for each tier comes in one of the 4 boxes respectively. For your AMX for example, if you wanna get the special camo, you gotta fight 50 rating battles at tier X but you have to fight the largest share of them with AMX
e.g Scenario:
20 (with amx)/10 (misc)/10 (misc)/10 (misc)

[frosty tangle]

sorry for ping you.

but that's my friend.......

He decided to rename the IGN for my current IGN.

The different if u see was numbers. My favorite number was 625 while my friend has 039 ( something strange? )

[sharp path]

Finally,Mute is over

[candid jackal]

haha..i see

[scenic pendant]

This is why i rarely do ratings anymore, fricking 4k dmg, lost and still lose 3 points

[humble wasp]

i dont see that lose

[scenic pendant]

It was more than 10 battles ago, i forgot to ss it. I went from 4050 to 3836

Edit : And im done, im gonna try to go back to platinum and never touch ratings ever again

[humble wasp]

i wanna see that game

and you are in gold you lost and gain more points

[round skiff]

You complain about something, i show it's not so bad/ur wrong, u complain on something else. And now u use the team excuse like eu teams were good. Why u even behaving like that?

[inner jackal]

at least on NA there is mostly english speakers, on we here we see all kind of languages trying to make it thru

[round skiff]

totally agree, in eu you get from russian to spanish and portuguese, with czech, polish and every other european language and that's annoying, a lot of players don't get that their language might not be widespread, in NA there's most likely way less issues with that since there's way less languages

[inner jackal]

Yall have only English and Mexican( which I think it's just spicy Spanish)

[fallen mortar]

The prob also have Portuguese and Brazilian and stuff like that from South America since i don't think they have a different rating server

[keen moon]

_muppet#9752 has been warned.

[inner jackal]

Damn silence has been brought here

[muted shuttle]

No it isn’t

Drop it guys please

[ornate spoke]

you seriously deleted my entire message

[muted shuttle]

Yes

[inner jackal]

Cause it was toxic and not on the topic, could have gotten in dms idk

[ornate spoke]

it was on topic, the second message i sent at least was. and that was deleted for no reason

[round skiff]

end : "drop it please"
continues the convo anyway
"idk what i did wrong"
let's rly drop the convo now, been enough

[compact oriole]

This chat is dead unless someone like stevo posts their usual complaining

[round skiff]

I prefer the 1st option

[crisp geyser]

question, How many times can I claim this prize?

[compact oriole]

Unlimited number of times.

[sharp path]

As long as you have enough coins

[hazy stag]

Rework Ratings' scoring system.

I'm dàmn tired of doing my absolute best and still lose points because my team was completely worthless.

While I get free points doing nothing but my team miraculously won.

Make it so that, if you deal more DMG than your Health Pool, you're always gaining Rating Points.

While if you do nothing, you're always losing Ratings points.

[split turret]

the rank battles are the real crap of the game. Regular battle 65% wins, rank only has 39% wins, but PRO Clan players win without doing 1k damage. My team doesn't do half the damage I dealt in battle

[neon stratus]

no

[ornate spoke]

I agree for the most part but even if you do 2x your health pool but you lose then it's still -rating but just less

[eager sparrow]

Win more

[hazy stag]

That's the exactly the system we have right now.

You lose with 3k DMG, you lose 10 rating points.

You win with 300 DMG, you gain 13 rating points.

@eager sparrow get me better teams.

[eager sparrow]

Yeah it encourages you to play to win not damage farm mind boggling ikr.

[ornate spoke]

How the hell do you play a TD on ratings then?
Also with that logic why does someone at the back of the map camping and damage farming still gets more than me with almost 3K in a med?
The problem is it's tied to the XP system. Not all tanks can bounce, spot, or track others equally so you could be doing great in a heavy but because the meds spotted and scouted, it doesn't matter that they did barely anything with only 1K dmg for example compared to your stellar 3.5-4K performance
(On a side note assisted damage is wierd, it comes randomly even though you track someone and an ally shoots traight after)

[eager sparrow]

You just don't play a TD in ratings if you truly want to be competitive. And yeah if he did more damage/had more base xp he's gonna get more rating. And the points you get is proportional to the person's rating compared to the game average. Like if ur games 4k rating average and u have someone 2k rated they're gonna get more points for just existing than the person rated 5k in that same battle because the 2k rated person is over performing relative to their rating in that game

[crisp geyser]

have u read the parameters of ratings battles?, they r 5... do dmg, kills tanks up to u, spot, destroy tracks and get bases. Rating battles its not about win or do more dmg, but being competitive and cover this 5 points

[hazy stag]

It is mostly definitely about winning, when you can be the MVP in a Loss, and still lose 10 ratings points;

But gaining 13 points while only doing 1 shot of damage in a victory.

[primal scroll]

Skips is my 2nd favorite ponda player!

[toxic rover]

I just have 680 coin still gona work hard

[round skiff]

Ratings only most likely won't be enough, you better do some coins tournaments

[compact oriole]

I like how everyone here complains that rating is about spamming battles since point distribution is screwed up but absolutely no one has provided a solution to the problem: how must the rating point distribution formula change

[inner jackal]

first 2 ppl from the loosing team get points instead of losing them
last 2 or 3 people from the winning team get no points.
the main issue is rewarding everyone from the winning team whereas it would be better to not let the last one get any points to prevent battle spammers

[compact oriole]

@inner jackal and yet again, how are the points calculated? Do the first 2 people of the losing team get points based on the formula of the winning team? And do the last people from the winning team get points from the formula of the losing team. But what about players who held 3 tanks by themselves, but didn't do much damage yet were crucial for the teams win? Do they deserve to lose points for allowing their team to win.

With every adjustment comes a downside.
(Note: before everyone starts complaining, I still think the rating system is screwed but as of now I don't have any idea of a working solution)

[inner jackal]

this is a small fast paced game.
doing damage is crucial as its the only mean of winning.
holding 3 tanks by yourself means the enemy team is too dumb.

now with the formula for points.
last 2 or 3 players from the loosing team get the formula for loss, and the first 2 players from the loosing team get the formula for a win.
Now its debatable if the points should be calculated over damage done or experience gained, but id like a damage based formula

[compact oriole]

Fair enough, seems reasonable. Just one question, wouldn't having rating be dependent on damage, force a meta shift in an already meta heavy gamemode? Imo it will just further decrease the already incredibly small rating tank diversity. Why play a celestial, or a kranvagn, when you can play an action x or a yoh triple shot respectively, since those tanks. at least technically speaking, should allow you to better adapt to the new rating creditting conditions. Are you willing to sacrifice the almost not existent rating diversity, just to revamp the point system? And if so why?

[inner jackal]

if i was in charge id simply dont care what the new meta will become as long as it has a working and fair point reward system.
Magazine tanks already have an advantage and its known they manage to score more points per win.

[compact oriole]

Not the response I was expecting but alright, it's your idea so you are free to hold those opinions.
Personally I don't think the list of viable tanks should be further constricted.

[inner jackal]

meta changes from time to time, medium tanks can be as effective as heavy tanks or TDs if played right.
its true there are some tanks that are outright too good and they get spammed in ratings but a good player can do as good in 121 as they do in a yoh

[agile sphinx]

Welcome to the 581st time where I have to repeat the same points about why making the "top" x players always gain points etc is an awful idea

Stop trying to make ratings more selfish and stop looking at ratings as being just individual games. If you actually care then look at my message history here where I describe all the issues with making selfish systems

[inner jackal]

idk man but on PC this system works
plus i dont like seeing timmy the 10yo doing 0 dmg 3 battles in a row and winning all of them and getting 90 points in total when i bust my ass and get 20 points per win

[agile sphinx]

PC is different game, and the chance of winning 3 battles in a row while afking is about 3%, look at things over the long run where it's actually useful instead of focusing on useless tiny samples

[half gull]

Just adapt and accept you can’t win everything.

@inner jackal I’m telling you because you’re overly complaining about a mobile game. If you’re losing because of white wr players then that’s too bad, you can’t win ever game you play

[agile sphinx]

60% career is a better limit, those scummy 50%ers can have randoms but not a supposedly skilled gamemode. If you suddenly can't play ratings then just get better and stop being carried 🤷‍♀️ (obviously sarcasm, but hopefully you get my point)

When half of the complaints in this channel are about queue times, I don't think you appreciate what the playerbase wants or what is good for ratings.

[inner jackal]

ill gladly accept that ,above 60 is also fine you know, i just chose 48 wr bc according to WG thats the average, so if u cant get above average u dont deserve to get in this

ill also drop the convo bc its getting nowhere.Ratings can be balanced but only on the expense of some players will not be able to play due to restriction.
its like the 50tp event, if u cant get the tank in 21 days ur a certified NOOB

@half gulli have the right to complain about anything i dont like in this game, you brought nothing to the convo by saying i should stop complaining about it, u see the nice convo i had with shalltear with pros and cons.
if u want to be useful bring arguments ,if not stay away
also i played 3 h for 2 days and got the tank ,the event was ez as it can get so gid gud ig

[half gull]

There was no point from the start lmao, there’s no reason that u should complain this much about a mobile video game.

@inner jackal I got the tank the last day, I don’t have the time to play blitz every day for a consistent amount of time. And the same probably goes for a lot of players

[ornate spoke]

In which case then, if rating is not universally accessible then they should remove the "do rating battles X times" challenge

Other than that you're sound, but since when does completing an event define skilled vs noob?
I can't say much as I'm flat 50% but I'm genuinely trying to improve. For the most part the discord and subreddit have been helpful and that's helped me turn my 48% to a 50 and it's still going up. (Statistically speaking you're naturally drawn to 50% so you have to really fight the current to get >60 or be SUPER bad to get <40

The event though you need BiA medals which is dependant on your teammate AND a good clan. Most of which I find closed or dormant and the few that are open have high barriers of entry (since they aren't bothered helping OTHERS to "git gud" OR it's an open clan with 5 new people which is not nearly enough). Suffice to say, plenty of active players, not so much clans

[inner jackal]

thats good,u want to improve, unlike others

[ornate spoke]

Cheers
I do have mega stupid moments like rushing in occasionally but for the most part I take personal and community feedback and practicing skills in tanks I know well like Fv4202 and IS4. Helps for other tanks in their classes I suck with cough IS3 (Only thorn in my side. I just can't anymore).

10K battles but still learning, though the road is frustrating. 10K has not prepared me for rating. The teams behave so differently. Ranging from TD roles, to the sides heavies pick, the speed etc

[inland elm]

Hello, I am planning on running rating battle with an AMX 13 90, and I'm starting to struggle flanking.
I mean my tank cannot penetrate the front of a tank, thus it's not made for exanging shels anyways.
So i can't push heavy side, TD await behind anyway. I cannot flank by med side because my tank will get rekt instantly.
I may be able to rush in the center of the map but, iill get killed after having empity my drum.
What to do ? I canno't just be a lose weight for my team untill the middle of the battle !

[opaque edge]

It's generally a play style of any drummer. Spot (if u quick), hide, get unspotted, pull out or circle empty clip and retreat again.
I know the feeling of "not being helpful" to team sometimes as I run Lorraine now for ratings (just as a challenge for myself). 20+ sec reload is painful and beginning of matches usually is time for me not to get nuked, but then your clip can help a lot to finish an enemy or even two sometimes. Yes, u may take a hit or two in return, but you eliminate a gun or two from the game.

Calculate the risk of exposing yourself versus dealing your full clip potential. If its ratio of 1 x 3 or 2 x 3 - its still worth it.

[inland elm]

Let's say on the med side of Middleburg, what do you do ?

[opaque edge]

Not an easy map to be a drummer in, especially if all ppl go up. u cant peak, u cant hull down, you need to wait it out. Spot where majority are going, pick single targets who over poke or are isoleted at the back. If u flank too aggressive, always watch minimap for meds/lights changing direction towards u and just run.
Alive gun in the game is better than 1 clip of damage and death.

[inland elm]

Thanks for those wise words :)

[opaque edge]

I am no Unicum, but getting better and better. Game is not always going my way, but hey, that's part of fun 🙂

[azure kite]

@opaque edge what i can say to me its not part of fun (to me) i really hate sometimes these teams but welp u cant change ur teamates

[round skiff]

if u didn't already, load at least 2-3 clips of pramo. might hurt to use them but from time to time u have no choice. this will also help you vary your playstyle since you can go in front of heavies with more confidence cuz sometimes you have to. means you can also attack enemies from more angles. as for the risk of getting rekt just play it safe. you'll naturally learn when you should and shouldn't go and when to do risky plays after some time.

[inner jackal]

2-3 clips of prammo is too little for a light tank with relatively low pen, more the better

[round skiff]

yeah, i just forgot the ammo count on the 13 90 and i myself don't use that much pramo so i just guessed. i'd say you should still have at least 50% normal ammo (im being very vague ik)

[covert wind]

To be fair the amount of HE should be very small. Can't really finish low level targets of with 10-20 Splash damage.

[half gull]

I load 27/15/3 in my AMX 13 90

[inner jackal]

@round skiff on my tanks I get a hefty amount of prammo, depending on the tank's capacity, most of my TX meds have 20+ gold, I'd rather guarantee a pen than bouncing, hence why I'm using calibrated shells instead of rammer/vents

[ornate spoke]

i love Skips!!

[ornate spoke]

Bruhh I’ve been waiting for 7 minutes to get into a rating battle

[ornate spoke]

Someone mad… atleast you can get into games unlike me. I’ve been waiting for like 10 min

[void badger]

not without my own long waits 😕

[eager sparrow]

Wack

[frosty tangle]

Idk why when reach platinum then back to gold and vice-versa?

Tbh..... I lucky to ace this tank. sorry for emil because he got ammorack damage 3 times.

• IS-7 was finally receive a 1st class.

[opaque edge]

I start to remember why Tier8 is not the Tier I like Ratings in. Everyone spams Progetto and Emils/Sharks/Objects 😄

[ornate spoke]

Congratulations on the mastery. American tanks are bit harder to get with

[hollow hill]

The Pershing is one of the easiest tier 8s to ace, still good job tho

[vague canyon]

like the indian

[opaque edge]

4k dmg is still respectable in Tier8, well done

[gilded edge]

Am I just a noob today or is ratings super bad today and full of bots?

[hardy kiln]

hey all. I am a veteran player who is new to ratings and I got a question. How the hell does pointing work? I get more base xp but less points or the other way around. My rating is 4500 atm. Please help me.

[opaque edge]

I think no one really knows the point calculation formula? Its mostly spotting, tracking, damaging, capping points

[daring loom]

Can someone send me an image of what the obj252u, fv301 or pantera look like with the 5k camo? Any of them will do, just wanna see what they look like

[lime sparrow]

ugly

[opaque edge]

I guess Pantera is OK with that cammo

[agile sphinx]

<@&481447501690568709> more free nitro yayyy

[ornate spoke]

wow can i have some

[inland elm]

What about the good old is3 ?

[opaque edge]

Roll it out :)

[round skiff]

Quick note : this was taken with lowest settings. It looks way better with hd textures, pbr and all that good stuff

[daring loom]

Thank you! Is it possible to take a screenshot with the hd textures on? If not, don’t worry

[void badger]

the vickers and 121 are my favorite with the rating wiz

[round skiff]

Yeah i'll just do it when i'm home

[daring loom]

Thanks, I appreciate it

[random terrace]

Do we get more points in rating battles if we play in tier 7 tanks?

[opaque edge]

Don't think so

[cyan ermine]

If my rating is above 4.5K.
Will I receive one of the tier 7 tank from M41D, T44-85 etc?

[sharp path]

No you wont?

[cyan ermine]

Is that only applicable for youtubers?

[compact oriole]

I'm confused. What kind of question is that? The only tank you can receive is the Lorraine F right now

[sharp path]

Yes i know,but i didnt know what he meant with his question,since u can only get the fearless at 5k+. Thats why i wondered

[flat basalt]

what do u mean?

[frosty tangle]

If u are youtuber at 1000 subscribers.

[rain kraken]

The more points you have, the less points you get, but also lose, that's all

[hardy kiln]

i understand that part and am perfectly OK with it. What I dont understand is getting 25 points for 1000 XP and 20 points for 1200 XP.

[opaque edge]

It is not based only on XP afaik

[round skiff]

there u go, fv301 in all its glory

[agile adder]

Shh...sh..shadowwss???? IMPOSSIBLE!

[daring loom]

Thank you again 👌

[daring loom]

Thank you

[peak heron]

i dont get rating mode

i start playing at 2600 for a quest
i lose -100 points on the way

then i play for fun and credits with a premium and go +300 to 2800 in no time

its just weird

[inland elm]

I was wondering : how are doing the tchekoslovakian mediums compared to a batchat ?
Seems nobody's playing it.
Especially tier 8 seems good

[ornate spoke]

tvp is much better than bc25

[inner jackal]

I mean bc is smaller, and has light tank perks, but in terms of firepower and gun related characteristics, yeah tvp is better

[round skiff]

tvp's got the 4 shots but for the rest i'd say batchat is better. this is opinions but batchat is overall better for how i play. 4 shots clips mean a lot of dmg but reload also takes a lot of time (tvp has less dpm btw). batchat also has the lt advantages which are speed and camo. as for armor even tho the batchat is worse you can still make the upper plate work well. tvp performs better but it's not by that much and they're both very capable tanks.

@inland elm i haven't rly played tvp but i have to say that batchat actually works well in ratings. i myself got the 5k camo on it and grinding with it was enjoyable. it's challenging but 100% worth giving a try.

[inland elm]

To tell the truth that is my first tier X, guess I get addicted to clipper

[round skiff]

you might wanna try out the 50b then. it's easier to play and get dmg in while still having the fast french clipper playstyle (even tho it's slower overall).

[regal cosmos]

One thing I really like about the Batchat is the clip reload. It’s an easier decision to make to reload a clip rather than holding onto it, and if you do make a mistake by choosing to reload, you are only stuck on a small reload. Hurts more on the TVP, which has more clip damage but wasted shells can leave it more vulnerable.

[eager sparrow]

I disagree 👎

[ornate spoke]

tvp is better. there is a reason tvp is in the meta right now and bc25 is not. The gun is the reason; TVP not only has an extra 310 alpha shot, giving it the second highest clip alpha in the game, but it also has cracked mobility (not as good as bc but still very good) and the key difference is the gun handling and intraclip reload. TVP has insane gun handling whereas batchats' is quite lackluster, also 2.0 vs 2.8 is a pretty major advantage

[round skiff]

Yes tvp has the 4 shots and the better intraclip (which i forgot to mention) but for the gun handling they're very similar. You also can't rly use the speed as a valid argument since batchat is faster. Yes tvp might be meta but batchat rly ain't so bad.

[round skiff]

According to some ppl yes

[fallen mortar]

Tvp isn't meta at all

[opaque edge]

Well that's beyond yolo... that just suicide

[jagged glade]

No he's running back when he take the first shoot but i didn't let him run away

[opaque edge]

Ah, I missunderstood, I thought Leo is on your team and went "spotting" beyond C cap towards enemy side

[dreamy wind]

in what world is the tvp meta bruh. batchat is way more meta but even then, you talking about 2 tanks that aren’t really either meta at the moment

[white spruce]

Random matchmaking at its finest

[round skiff]

ah yes quality content

[vague canyon]

therer's a lot of of ttt 👀

[ornate spoke]

they aren't similar on gun handling, tvp has significantly better accuracy
@dreamy wind 8.3 made the TVP pretty close to the meta honestly, the clip on the tank is now even more potent because heavies have trouble dealing with it

[round skiff]

you call that significantly better handling ? the dep and elevation is better but handling is just on par

We got it you prefer tvp and it's performing better than batchat rn but why lying ?

[candid hollow]

0.2 less dispersion is fairly big it means instead of potentially refined gun you could run vertical stabilisers and improve on the gun handling whilst retaining a similar a dispersion less than the BC anyway how does this relate to rating

[sonic basin]

Things that make bc worse are the gun depression and the long intraclip
It has light's capabilities to spot & run but in the end of the day it can only deal not so much of damage
It would be much better if they buffed the intraclip to 2.0s and make the clip loading longer

[ornate spoke]

if you simply play the tanks you understand what i mean. Obviously the 8 degs of gd is also a big factor, but just play tvp and bat and you will almost certainly notice the feel of these guns

[white spruce]

baguette

[round skiff]

yes

[frosty tangle]

I never playing rating battles.

Too many was Nubs vs pros

1.) Heavy tanks goes camping.
2.) medium didn't doing a flanking and snipe instead.
3.) Light tank was going a full yolo mode.
4.) always me to push but my teammates doesn't help when call "SoS".
5.) Unbalance match like the enemy have some OP tanks while my team has doesn't.

Really no exist good teammates anymore in rating T - T.

I have 3.8k rating points ( gold league status ) because my teammates killing my rating.

[ornate spoke]

I'm killing my ass
Meanwhile team:
Still got a class 2 mastery and breach avatar out of it

[digital palm]

just carry harder, if ur 40%
dont play rating xdd

[glacial rune]

rating now days is awful

[peak heron]

i love rating

1. doesn't affect stats
2. impossible to lose credits(with prem vehicles and collectors)
   3.since i completely suck at the game idc about my own rating😂

[ornate spoke]

I think it's more that teams just as a whole act completely different
Random matches are very predictable. But even playing 10K of them, I don't expect heavies to come up the med side or destroyers acting like heavies/meds
Everything you probably learned from random is different in rating. It's a whole new game. Bad teammates are only like 25% of the problem at most
It's also the only mode you can expect all 7 to steamroll one side. NEVER split up

Edit: Just now. Very competent team. Even though I split up I played my ISU right and got assisted well by an emil. You can make it work other times though, to at least save yourself the rating if your team;s bad

[nova thorn]

true, true.

[nimble rapids]

I actually find ratings completely different from what it is on regular battles. No platoons spam, mm is actually trying to "balance" teams based on rating points, not really having much of Smasher/Annihilator if you play tier VII/VIII, much more strategic and team based than just everybody sitting in random places around the map, but hard to tell what it is on lower ratings since I'm between Platinium/Diamond pretty much all the time

[neon stratus]

wow eu must be a lot better then asia

[ornate spoke]

not sure what ASIA is like. But as an EU player hearing stories, we got better teams and a lot less swearing it seems

[fair carbon]

can anyone show me the Rating Wiz Diamond camo on the 50TP prototyp and the WZ 113G - FT pleaseeee

[digital palm]

its not
i get 80% sessions over 20 games in tier 10, and you can probably farm even more in tier 8

[hidden dew]

It is, just try to play near diamond
And try to get a tank lmao

[digital palm]

?
i have like 10 5k camos, and idc about ratings

[hidden dew]

Then dont say they are not awful when they are

[glacial rune]

@hidden dewtnx for supporting 😆

[compact oriole]

A player with 7.5k+ rating battles here. Rating is not awful. It's problems are just grossly exaggerated

[hidden dew]

I dont think so. Its all about spaming op tanks, rigging and having much luck with a teams. Ratings definitely needs a remake. If u only want diamond league then yea its not a big problem but if u want something more than only way is spammimg op tank (Vickers CR most player choice)

[compact oriole]

Yes ... It is rating for gods sake. Of course meta tanks are going to be spammed to hell.
The fact that rating points can be gained from battle spamming is an issue however do remember that good players will still progress waaaay faster than a random 50%. About rigging, that happens mainly in gold league. Once you are out of there, you barely meet them.
About the luck aspect, what the hell are you talking about? There will always be a luck aspect. And if you are going to complain about luck in rating, then would you complain about luck in random battles to? Bcz in both game modes, there is mm luck, battle rng etc. Rng is part of the game's core

[hidden dew]

Rigging mainly in golden league? Thats intresting because i see most rigging on plat/diam leagues (mainly from clan staring from A COUGH) and i can accept meta tanks but thats kinda unfair when i play with bad players against top ones and thats ends in the only way... 1:7

Look for example for system on pc, they have much more skill depented than spamming... If u reach all divisions u enter one league and if u are really good player u will have always that last league. And for the end of seasons u choose reward. So if u were good u have tanks and thats more than few players. Everyone is happy.

[compact oriole]

Are you referring to astra? Bcz rigging is not the same as doing countdowns. Rigging means actively trying to change the outcome of the battle, such as avoiding shooting at enemies/other people in the count down, blocking team mates etc. Getting in the same battle but playing normally does not mean rigging. Countdowns iirc are perfectly fine by the eula. Of course, if you have clips of rigging like behavior, sure I can change my mind but I have never seen astra do such things.

I'm not defending them doing countdowns as it does put their clan in a bad light but you can't do much about it. Also I am not even sure if it's countdowns since almost everyone from that clan actively plays rating.

Number 27194 of someone proposing PC ranked system. Blitz:s rating playerbase is too small for such a spread out division system

[hidden dew]

They did. One of them even blocked my friend who were top 10. And (clan name) just cheating... u can look when top players leaving clan and somehow i see 3 or even more of them in one battle but everyone is in the other family clan... U think thats clear play?

Even last year, other clan rigged battles, everytime i played they were 4-5 in battle and once we had 2vs2 situation, player from that clan run away from me, they finished me and after that he went yolo and he died too... and these players were in top 20

[compact oriole]

If you can send me replays or clips sure. But I have never seen such beahavior and I play deep into diamond almost every season.

[digital palm]

Rsevik🥶 @compact oriole hi

[compact orbit]

@merry sorrel Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down never gonna run around and desert you

[keen sinew]

i am close to getting a teir 7. almost gonna be able to play in this

[fading schooner]

@keen sinew ogmh

[keen sinew]

what. it's not a crime to be a new player

[quiet island]

@keen sinew don't play ratings
Dats what he means

[keen sinew]

ok thx

[ornate spoke]

🇫

[opaque edge]

:O

[rose path]

lmao has anyone else also given up this season bc of missed calibration headstart + all the sweats this month

[safe obsidian]

Yeah I’m hardstuck 4600 and I can’t gain because there are sweats on both teams

[compact oriole]

<@&481447501690568709>
well nvm, someone banned him

[frosty tangle]

I have some funniest happen in rating battles today:

Its was clutch game ( 1v1 ), me in amx 50 120 vs the 50tp prototype...... both was one shot.

Me was never poke out because anytime he fire a HE is was gg...

funny is no one decided to push and near draw..... but 50tp decided to poke and see the little weakspot that cause to victory in my team.

[opaque edge]

It's these moments we all like to play team games for 🙂 Get a win for the team, be victorious! 😄

[hidden dew]

<@&481447501690568709> ?

[dull sparrow]

Bruh is the Lorraine Fearless available rn on rating?

[covert wind]

I think so yes

[frosty tangle]

Its was yes but hard to get.....

need to reach diamond.

[young cradle]

😼🔫
2 account

[short perch]

This season of rating will last two months right?

[kindred bear]

congrat

[short perch]

Ok next question. What if the special camo you unlock after 50 games in diamond or platinum league cannot be equipped by the tanks? It can be still applied to other tanks?

[regal cosmos]

credit compensation

[primal scroll]

seeing you complain all the time probably not if the game makes you this angry

[ornate spoke]

Why you wait 15 with no match?

[young cradle]

Thanks

[fallen mortar]

ratings is such a good gamemode
its literally the worst your teammates are even dumber than in randoms because here they dont have to worry about stats

there is plenty but 90% of those are dense

[median wagon]

Lmao, there isn’t enough people playing it

[compact oriole]

I mean, you are still in gold so mm for you is pretty much just random. that aside how much are you losing per battle

[fallen mortar]

yeah i know what am i supposed to do if my cali ends up 8 looses 2 wins because im getting people that literally suicided and 8 out of 10 games were steamrolls
or i end up with a god awful MM for a game that puts me with some randoms against 3 unicums while beeing a t9 in a t10 game

my ratings cali for the past 4 seasons always has been god awful with 50% or lower wr even tho im having 3k+ avg at t10 or 2,7k+ at t9

ratings cali is the poor mans gambling

[compact oriole]

lmao 2/10. Well, you can't really do much about that considering you have 2.5k av dmg.

For calibrating I suggest playing tier 8 as it feels a lot more comfortable than tier 9. In t9 if you are top tier a lot of the spammed t8s are pretty much t9 tanks in disguise. And if you meet t10s in a tier 9, well then the difference is very notable.
The past 5(?,maybe 4 tho) season my calli has been over 4k, with one of them being at 4580. T8 is just a lot more viable for dealing with the idiots that are just callibrating

[kindred bear]

your welcome

[fallen mortar]

well which tank has 2,5k avg ?
i mean try doing dmg in a steamroll its basically impossible if your team is dead within a min and then there is 5 or 6 people comming for you
even in t10 all i got was steamrolls and t8 also went horrible for me because in t8 i meet people going city on port bay or city on middleburg espacially on the first few days of ranked you cant play any tier because its flooded with braindeads so no matter what tier you play its gambling

i see useless 50% bots doing like 2k avg at t9 and 10 but getting 4k calis because they get 90% Wr for some dumb reasons

[compact oriole]

unfortunately you don't have the tank I would recommend for t8. that aside, t8 imo has a disproportionate amount of dpm in relation to tank hp. tds have 2.7K dmg on average. however lights have like 1.3k hp, meds like 1.5k, tds, like 1.1-1.2k and heavies like 1.8k. Tier 8tds are able to kill tanks way quicker. Meanwhile, taking a leo 1, with its single highest dpm, has to deal with meds with about 1.9-2k hp, TDs with 1.8K hp, heavies with 2.5k+ hp and lights with 1.9k hp. It takes about the same time for a td at tier 8 to burn through the hp of an average tier 8 tank as it takes for the highest dpm tank to burn through the hp of same tier tanks.

[fallen mortar]

that happend when i tried to do cali at t8 @compact oriole

i think that was 3 seasons ago

[compact oriole]

git gud 😳. But no, on a serious note try more versatile tanks. I find wz120gft to be the all purpose tank in t8

[fallen mortar]

i did one with wz 120 1 gft a few seasons ago
50% with 2,7k avg and had 3k before the last battle because my team went heavy line on Faust in encounter
ended up with 3,6k cali so no wz doesnt work either

[median wagon]

That tank has fallen out of meta, too much heavy HP

[opaque edge]

I dont have issues with the queue in ratings as I play late evening usually. 9 to 12 pm

[inland elm]

No matter what I do I'm still block between 2700 and 3100
Just what can I do ?

[fallen mortar]

spicy stats ?
those starts are pretty garbadge

[inner jackal]

he had the bot MM and he didnt even managed to get above 1500 avg dmg,his stats are trash

[peak heron]

to me they are fantastic lol
(my own are far under average)

[mellow ermine]

actually you can do better than him. I have 21k battles and 54wr in my main account . I logged my old account and reroll account for free tier7 tank. My stats was %80 wr and 4000'ish wn8

[opaque edge]

I am quite happy being able to maintain about 61% WR for last 90 days, but I find in Ratings I cannot trust even guys with their overall WR well above 60.
I sometimes think they play the mode to "relax" and do silly things?

[dull sparrow]

Never done ratings before. Can you claim the Lorraine 40t already after you finished to diamond league, or you can claim it after the season end with a diamond rank?

[opaque edge]

Neither. To claim Lorraine you need to Finish First in your Region.
Any other places below only gets parts certificate of the tank. You will have a year or more to grind the tank if you only reaching Diamond.
afaik Only in Diamond you get some parts of the tank (idk 100% accurate info as speaking of top of my head)

[dull sparrow]

Thanks, its longer than I thought, i could probably get it if i keep playing ratings with my t22..... yeah

[livid sandal]

Not just the first place. 5 or 10 depending on the duration (1 month or 2 months). Source: https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/content/rating-battles/

[void badger]

the mm is horrible in every league its just elo farmers using broken tanks that want the camo

[agile sphinx]

"There are people better than me spamming broken tanks so the ermmmmm mm is broken...?"

[inland elm]

impressive

[ornate spoke]

well done

[vague canyon]

I think I'm struggling to read

[ornate spoke]

the 43rd place in the world in terms of damage

[peak heron]

just

HOW

[fallen mortar]

All stars were aligned for that one
The 40 points are still a joke🤣

[ornate spoke]

agreed

[topaz chasm]

That is quite impressive, congratulations

[void badger]

not even what i said but if you want to twist my messages for your benefit of sounding like every other person that just says “youre horrible at the game” then do what you want

[half gull]

Niesamowite! Gg!

[ornate spoke]

:p

[rotund swan]

Anyone up for squadding up for rating battles? I’m 3500 want to climb to 4K just getting back into ratings

[covert wind]

The higher you are the less points you gain or lose.

[gray sequoia]

Still no update...

[vague canyon]

so why are u complaining ? 😂

[ornate spoke]

Yeah 😂😂

[vague canyon]

ok, 👀

[regal cosmos]

More points for a better performance

[agile sphinx]

Nah what happens is there's some minimum wage guy at wargaming who looks at every single one of your battles and rolls however many dice he feels like and hand-inputs how many points to give you, it's not a totally logical algorithm at all.

The other battles would have been different, and so you would have got a different amount of points. Simple :)

[regal cosmos]

I’m sure you’d know there’s more that goes into the rating points earned than just damage and kills

You earn less when you play against a team with higher average rating, and more when against lower average rating, so no it’s not just xp either. It also considers the points you already have. Lesser points the higher you are

[spring tangle]

i got to diamond today

[opaque edge]

congrats, Im stuck on 4080 +/- 60, but I must be honest with myself, I was tired playing last few days and my personal results were not good

[rose path]

oh man next season is going to look mad interesting

[heavy sierra]

ratings in a nutshell

[topaz chasm]

I don’t expect anything else from a Silver League game.
Well silver league because you have some interesting bronze players there (didn’t know they exist) 😆

[wild lake]

Magda Gessler be like:

[fallen mortar]

ah yes someone with 1,1k dam

[inner jackal]

Road to 1 point be like

[eager sparrow]

Yeah let's ratings platoon. You. Me. Easy wins

[inner jackal]

??????
platoons......in.....ratings?????

[ornate spoke]

-.-
Someone trying to get banned huh

[fallen mortar]

count ins arent illegal as long as you play normal
its almost impossible at high rating to not meet someone from the same clan with similar points

[queen lichen]

What

[runic sigil]

???

[dull sparrow]

Bruh grinding coins on ratings is much easier than yelling at your clanmates at tournaments...

[safe obsidian]

Nah cause in tourneys you have coordination via vc.. in ratings there’s a chance to get random monkes that can manage to get a donut in tier 10

[charred plover]

looks like a mod or something

[crisp bough]

Uhhh the su85b and......... Idk what to say

[quaint totem]

@here

Finally we've got good news! Update 8.4 is available for all tankers, make sure you installed it.
This means the Secret Project event starts on Monday. Get yourself prepared, we're going for those Titan tanks!

Mad games are coming tomorrow. Here's the Mode Marathon schedule:
🤪 Mad Games: October 24-26.
😈 Uprising: October 27-29.
🔥 Burning Games: October 30 - November 1.
🤩 Players' choice: November 2-4.

[upbeat lichen]

W

[ornate spoke]

What these two things have to do with ratings?

[round skiff]

nothing

[wind peak]

No coins for today. Last 7 wins didnt get any coins

[ornate spoke]

You only get it for your first 200 victory's (idk if 200 in each league or in total for this season)

[regal cosmos]

200 total, doesn’t matter what league as long as it’s gold, Diamond or platinum

[ornate spoke]

does anyone have FV4005 with a diamond camo?

[regal cosmos]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/519167667874299906/862631706263552011/Screenshot_2021-07-08-10-48-24-191_net.wargaming.wot.blitz.jpg

[ornate spoke]

ty

[glossy granite]

can we pls get bonus credits instead of bonus regular xp

[primal scroll]

That's a thing already

[compact oriole]

@glossy granite you already get bonus credits....

[gilded flax]

does anyone have Leo 1 with 5k rating camo?

[ornate spoke]

i tried to get it but i failed

[sharp path]

There you go,highest Qualities my device could handle plus shadows,the whole shabang

[gilded flax]

thank you <3

[ornate spoke]

<@&481447501690568709>

[glossy granite]

oh my bad i didnt know that. how much of a credit bonus do u get ?

[ocean galleon]

Hey guys

[compact oriole]

@glossy granite

[young osprey]

<@&481447501690568709> scam

[flint chasm]

The ppl below gold 🤡

[glossy granite]

oh wow that s quite good actually. thank u for showing me that.

[ornate spoke]

Any1 have 5k camo on Wz-113 ?

[ornate spoke]

me begin with 3,300 in gold and after battle went to 2900 silver: 😶‍🌫️

[civic meadow]

Finally

[vague canyon]

👀

[ornate spoke]

Looks OP ⚡ Thx

[pure pine]

Wargaming please do something, anything to encourage people to play Ratings more often

[half gull]

no, it’s their choice

[pure pine]

imo they should cut out the passive bonuses to credits and XP and instead have credit and free XP rewards for passing certain milestones. Makes it much more tangible. It also shouldn't be available 100% of the time.

[ornate spoke]

Do WG have enough matchmakers for rating battles , because I keep waiting for a long time like 6 min still no response m plus yesterday waited like 11min which is even longer. Idk how long I can wait for every single battle maybe 1hr per match? I am not sure are other people have the same issue but this is the issuer I have

Plz help, WG needs more employees

[flint chasm]

Boblox u got any bobuc??

[ornate spoke]

Even worse

[primal scroll]

For some reason, queue times on NA in ratings went up when the amount of people playing ratings went up

[ornate spoke]

Bruh why is matchmaking taking so long

[blissful portal]

Agreed... never waited so much time to get in battle in previous seasons

[spring hinge]

I give up after 5 minutes lol

[pearl compass]

stop playing heavies and enjoy standard 2-3 minute waits

[light schooner]

what?

[safe obsidian]

Legundo shade😂

[vague canyon]

incredible

[keen moon]

Benchwarmer_#9655 was muted

[ornate spoke]

When WG can fix the MM system in rating, really waited so long on every single match

[next gull]

Alternatively, you can also try to stay near 3k rating , this is where the majority of the playerbase is. You will have more players to be matched with.

[warm pelican]

this is NOTHING i once sat in queue for normal random 8 minutes and no match.
@mint shale i havent seen rating be this bad YET. just leave queue if it dont match after 5 mins just go do smth else

[dull warren]

Wargaming should we add 90TP heavy polish tank? With improved mods

[sonic basin]

Wta is rating not giving season coins anymore? I played a few match and won some of them, none gave any
I thought it will be for the whole season

[opaque edge]

only first 200 wins

[sonic basin]

Ah I see, thanks

[dull sparrow]

I feel like i grinded the Diamond league for nothing, the only reward i got is telling yourself that "you did it!"

[opaque edge]

That is the award I am after, never been in Diamond and so far does not look im getting there 🙂 Stuck at around 4100. Another month... I play maybe 10-15 battles a day or less

[dull sparrow]

Dude.... I sold my soul, be healthy and take care of yourself.

[ornate spoke]

I guess my mission is done

[blissful portal]

Please NA stop using so many heavies if you dont want to wait so much time to get in battle!!!

[ornate spoke]

Ik what ur meaning, but they want to play heavies or not are their choices, plus this season is not great as usual

[blissful portal]

3 hours waiting and 2 afks when i get in battle.... what the game mode needed

[ornate spoke]

Just prefer u don’t play this season that’s it. Don’t complain the rating battle system , as I said WG not enough employees. Lots of them maybe in their vacation

[blissful portal]

I just want to get the tank quickly as possible before more 40%s want to get it

[ornate spoke]

Ik the tank is free but u need to know just same as the original Lorraine, plus if u have other meds like centurion 5/1 or progetto, then u don’t need it

[primal scroll]

*slightly better lorraine

[ornate spoke]

Like just a tiny little bit , still the same overall

[blissful portal]

I dont have lorrainte thats why... i have progetto but i just want to get it as i like collecting tanks

[ornate spoke]

Prefer next season , this season is not good

[opaque edge]

Idk, my wait times are no longer than under a minute when I play...
@ornate spoke congrats

[ornate spoke]

Not really because when my rating points up to around 4900, everything starts going backwards, plus teams just fall apart. Literally spent 2 whole freaking day to fix it . I was so mad on yesterday that my points are dropped. Especially playing high tiers like 9,10

[opaque edge]

I can imagine... climbing the ladder is not easy, but falling from it - very. I was lucky in a way, yday 5 games - 5 wins so got above 4100 finally. No idea how it will go tonight tho...

[ornate spoke]

From Gold to Platinum is easy but From Platinum to Diamond is quite challenging

[gilded flax]

:D

[ornate spoke]

Hw come is 4475 , should be around like 4000

[ornate spoke]

Wrong channel mate , should be on #uprising

Well, there goes 3.9K

[gilded flax]

got 2 aces and 3 first classes in the calibration battles (=))

[ornate spoke]

Ur better than me , me got like 3.7k

[gilded flax]

=)

[ornate spoke]

But I don’t care when I got diamond for the camo

[topaz isle]

Me a veteran RL player

[ornate spoke]

So is that my problem?

[topaz isle]

no i just got confused about which ranking you were talking about for a second

[ornate spoke]

I'm not sure I'll continue

[opaque edge]

You better show the bottom part 🙂 Tanks played

I am losing motivation as well after 30 battles yday and not a move up 🙂 Need to get better at game probably 😄

[inner jackal]

If that guy spammed smasher or ani then he has no right to complain lol

[ornate spoke]

Sorry but i don't have smasher

@opaque edge here

[inner jackal]

Holy, those tanks ain't even op, thats surprisingly nice

[opaque edge]

I love that T44, such a nice tank to play

[opaque edge]

Did you Ace the tank 22 times out of 65 battles? 😄

[ornate spoke]

Why play tier 7 :/

[opaque edge]

I sometimes play T7 with some weak tank just to annoy Anni/Smashers and as a challenge to myself 😄

[agile adder]

T71 aint gonna play itself 🤤

[ornate spoke]

Ofc challenging myself and try to improve at rating
Especially learn where i can get ammorekt in T-44-85

[stone sinew]

Rating battle all abt spamming it

[civic estuary]

hm

[charred plover]

just played with wg lol

[sharp path]

And TTT 👌

[charred plover]

yep

[rose path]

wheres his official WG avatar lol

[charred plover]

idk lol

[short marsh]

Test.

[fallen mortar]

its not someone from WG iirc xD
the have the WGPR or smth as a clan tag for WG Press

[sharp path]

I mean,ge doesnt have to use it soo

[topaz chasm]

That’s the official Wargaming employee clan on the EU server so.
But yeah either he is choosing not to use the avatar or he hasn’t been given it. I assume it has to be manually given by someone

[muted shuttle]

It is

[fallen mortar]

oh ok so they have two clans
well guess i met someone too then

[muted shuttle]

WGPR is for cc’s, not quite WG employees

[fallen mortar]

ah okay

[vestal yacht]

tho not all CCs are in the WGPR clan as lot of them just leave

[novel stump]

how to destroy the MM

[sharp path]

Greet Das Zweirad/shisui from me and tell him he should stop faking his stats,and rather learn to play t8. Greetings Jim 🤪

[frail bison]

my rating battle experience just seconds ago : full HP IS scared of pushing a st.emil with 230 hp lost by points

[sharp path]

Happens all the time

[bold ether]

today my rating mm going really good

[jagged lintel]

any idea when the rating season ends? or is a 2 months season

[vague canyon]

2months

[jagged lintel]

cool...my kran has to wait even more 😔 ty

[compact oriole]

spring and twister season always have a double rating season

[ancient quest]

Does anyone know when the certificate parts are going to be given out? Wg’s website says that the parts will be awarded at the start of the following month, but Im not sure if that means start of November or start of December

[limber ermine]

Im pretty sure this month is a double, so the parts get sent around December

[primal scroll]

^

[agile adder]

The guys over at _FE_gotta stop doing countdowns

[daring loom]

Counting in is not rigging

[bleak blaze]

The main point is to reduce/remove the chances of meeting same player from the same clan, imagine enemy side got 3 players from the same pro clans and you got randoms. Its not fun.

[daring loom]

If that happened, it is what it is. I’d just give ratings a break for a bit. Also, you shouldn’t really be expecting fun from ratings xD

[bleak blaze]

Its not fun and not fair

[daring loom]

Again, you shouldn’t be expecting it to be fun. And it’s pretty hard to get two completely even teams. The rating mm just compiles a team based on their rating, I don’t think it takes player’s wr into account. (I may be wrong about this)

[muted shuttle]

Would you complain the same way if you got them on your team and it was an easy win for you?

I think we all here know the answer

[muted shuttle]

Countdowns are fine as long as every players plays according to the rules.

[agile adder]

Is it really fine if there are 7 FE members on one battle lol

[muted shuttle]

As long as they are playing fairly and not doing anything against the rules, then yes.

But if not, that would be punishable

[agile adder]

Just seems...excessive

[ornate spoke]

people like to have fun beating their clanmates up

[inner jackal]

yeah unless they actually rig and do illegal stuff then its not something to complain about

[vague canyon]

complain more 👀

[inner jackal]

thats,uhhh 2700 team average LMAO

[daring loom]

You’ve just got 1000 to go xD

[mortal plume]

I do, yes he would because he would get 0 dmg

[shut dock]

Ñ

[opaque basin]

3 out of 4 battles in SU 122-54 I got ammo racked. Rating is amazing. Thanks WG 😄

Make it 4 out of 5.

[muted shuttle]

It’s certainly connected to the rating battles, makes so much sense 😁

[opaque edge]

In a very very tiny sense it does... people (sometimes) know where Ammo Racks are placed in Rating Battles 😄

[half gull]

I think you’re overthinking this

[steel ravine]

What is the best tier 8 rating tank?

[drifting plover]

Emil I (my opinion)

[steel ravine]

Not bad

[copper mauve]

maybe stop getting hit so much, and use protective kit

ofc people will target tanks with low armour, if they had the choice between shooting the armoured tank and shooting the unarmoured tank, they’d shoot the one without armour duh

[split pewter]

rework the point system. It is stupid to get +5 for win when i pushed and to get +5 for lose when just farmed DMG. Anyone always need to push 1st. Why this system does not take into account?

Take off the same number of points for a defeat and give the same number of points for a victory. Then it will be fair. Try it 1 season at least. Why not?

[primal scroll]

You're saying give everyone on the team the same points (eg everyone gets 10) or give the exact same points for win/loss (eg Win is +10 always loss is always -10)

[split pewter]

Ye. I know many games with this system. Wot blitz system does not work. That’s why almost all top players doesn’t play rating.

What do u need to be top10 in rating? Very much free time, wt auf pz, some skill and camp on red line with op abilities.

[muted shuttle]

Here we go again 🥸

[agile sphinx]

This is a very good idea for a system (much much much better than most proposals we have here) the only possible issue is at the end high leaderboard positions could be tied, because anyone who actually cares about rating is going to ay enough battles for the randomness in teams to be averaged out.

I think it would work well if you had ±2*(your tier) points per win/lose, and then maybe -1 to everyone for a draw. That way it makes it harder for people to grind at lower tiers where there's more op tanks, it punishes draws so people are encouraged to be more aggressive, but it also punishes not playing for the win which is perfect. It also allows for more variety of points at the end of the season instead of multiples of 10 so draws in podium/high positions are less likely

6k+ points would probably become more manageable and you'd end up having to tell more players that teams average out and to stop crying when they lost 1 game with above average damage, but overall it would be a vast improvement. On top of that, you'd only be able to gain points with more than 50% WR which stops any battle spammers

[ornate spoke]

When will rating ends ??

[frail bison]

i dont get the part of getting match with players of ur same skills in ranting battles when all i see is the skills of a 5 days installed game in t10

[muted shuttle]

@split pewter No name and shame

[keen moon]

RACAILLOUX#7056 was muted

__D1sss_Ya_HaBiBi_#0147 was muted

[keen moon]

V4LR1DER#6557 has been warned.

[ornate spoke]

just because people reroll doesn't mean they suck

[inner jackal]

Rerolling is shameful, end of story, it's even more shameful when u start to brag with reroll stats

[pearl glacier]

why is it shameful

[opaque edge]

Its like having a second life and being ashamed of first one, where all mistakes in life were made 🙂 Instead of fixing it, you go live new live with "a mask on a face" of someone Good.

[agile sphinx]

Personally I find rerolling fine until you try to pretend you are good because of your reroll stats or try to compare reroll stats to another persons main account.

[topaz chasm]

Pretty much. A persons main account will show their progress from their mistakes and actions as a new player.
A reroll is essentially hiding that part of their time playing Blitz, so what you end up with are nice looking stats. Especially when many of these rerolls I encounter pulled out their wallet to buy good performing premium tanks or to avoid having to grind out tech tree tanks entirely. It’s fine if you want to do that, it’s your choice but it doesn’t give you the right to look down on anyone that doesn’t having nice looking stats as well

[sharp path]

I can agree with that,there are reasons people reroll other than stats. I myself as example made a reroll bcs i wanted to start playing in the bigger tournaments. Imo its okay in thie case,some might say its not and thats ok too,since it is their opinion

[ornate spoke]

I'm a reroll myself, my rerolling reason was being constantly insulted and kicked from a clan, because they disliked my green wr. Bot mm exists I don't see a point showing off those stats tho, to be fair it's also not nice to insult a innocent reroll for just being a reroll.

[opaque edge]

Is this real picture from Ratings?????

[inner jackal]

being laughed at bc of green wr isnt a reason to reroll, i am myself a green WR and idc what others think when i can easily carry 9/10 games

[ornate spoke]

True on that you shouldn't care about other people opinion, but I think you got my point on the last part of my message.

[vivid shore]

Yes

[regal cosmos]

It is a reason since someone has already rerolled due to that. But it’s nothing wrong if they want to do that. There’s no rule against it and it’s just a matter of you not liking them getting rid of their noob period of stats

[rose path]

Plenty of certain ppl gatekeeping their clan purely from stats alone but on the flipside if you have white wr I'd be concerned

[fallen mortar]

i have one issue with the ratings MM rn

i feel like, even tho it would mean longer queue times, battles where 1 team gets a lowtier med and the other team gets 2 meds or light and medium shouldn't exist
i just feel like its very unfair towards any team that gets the lowtier one since u have a few maps where u really need the medium to spot and hold certain key positions which is pretty impossible if you're a low tier against two top tier meds
in theory it would be yeah just push heavy side since u have an advantage there but in practice that just doesn't work because ud be pushing into

1. reloaded enemys
2. prob some camping TDs
3. sometimes open terrain
   all resulting in too much HP loss to get it done + coordination is almost impossible unlike in tours where smth like that can work

[warm otter]

lmao ,keep getting <7k,50%
how to play

plz remove that tocsix daily mission
win 3 in rating

[frail bison]

reroll? who is talking about reroll? im talking about this homies that never improve and play rating battles

[tender flame]

Youre a Lucky player 🤣

[inner jackal]

WG will. Do nothing about it unless he blocked and swore in game

[muted shuttle]

@errant kelp Don’t Name and Shame here

[cinder ore]

hey is this new? i just saw it in battle

[ornate spoke]

That’s the old camo ,the new one actually have Jokers instead of RGN

[iron bluff]

Is this good for a ratings match?

[snow flame]

Training room

[vivid shore]

xD? Yeah in training room i can active boosters xD

[ornate spoke]

So progetto has 2 camos with each having 1 clan of difference?

[gilded flax]

not really their fault

[ornate spoke]

Skill issue

[primal scroll]

skill issue

[inner jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-gif-22100868

[vivid shore]

11 progetto 🍕

[sharp path]

@vivid shore i Was in that match xD

[vivid shore]

13 progetto

[daring loom]

XD

[ornate spoke]

Yes, but not sure where the Joker camo is

[ornate spoke]

That could be a aeson mistake who knows

[ornate spoke]

And that’s why I asked RibbleStripe yesterday, hope he can respond

[brittle crow]

Guys, whats the average price of tier 6 tonks that u can buy with season coins currencys?

[ornate spoke]

3k i think but all depends on what comes and which tank it is

[brittle crow]

Thanks smart cat

What about a 7?

[ornate spoke]

u can check that on the store
there's the t28 HTC

[brittle crow]

I was talking about the average

[ornate spoke]

idk
maybe 9k

Why sounds go good on this tank, I can’t wait to get it

[inner jackal]

Well pz 4s was sold for 8k coins, and a t8 for 16k+ depends how good they are

[ornate spoke]

ohh yeah 8k bruh

[safe obsidian]

8k

[lime tinsel]

Ratings bad. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[tough light]

+1

[ornate spoke]

Yea , it makes my rating points so low like 5003

[lime tinsel]

I got to top 5 ratings in a two month season by playing for 5 days (since tuesday) with just over 100 games played. That's basically what's wrong with ratings lol

[ornate spoke]

I can see ur points , although getting diamond is ez but all I want is the camouflage for my tps. Feel boring to wait until Nov 30

[safe obsidian]

abolish synx for tryharding smh

[ornate spoke]

wat how u do that

i mean i know a lot of people were playing the gamemodes (including me) but how

It is easy, I remember I played like 6 days at the beginning

[lime tinsel]

because ratings suffers from:

• Extra toxic players
• Extra terrible players
• Lack of popularity due to above two reasons
• Long MM queues due to lack of popularity
• People wait long times to lose games due to first two reasons
• Cycle begins at the top

[ornate spoke]

so did you get lorraine fearless?

[inner jackal]

dont forget the new influx of bad players due to a marathon of gamemodes and events ,those players didnt leave yet and we are stuck with a 1:1 ratio of extra bad and salty players with good players ,not only in ratings but anywhere tbh

[ornate spoke]

Check the leaderboard , ez

[inner jackal]

Idk whats worse, your current rating, or the team

Lmao he deleted his screen

[muted shuttle]

I deleted it.

[rose path]

ratings MM is bollixed rn due to everyone grinding season coins

[daring loom]

And the progetto camo xD

[compact oriole]

Yeah. But I can't really complain about it since I am doing it myself

[daring loom]

So am I lol

[plush hull]

why ad a ratings camo in the shop WG ? why ? is the revenue made by op tier 8 tanks added to tier 7, talking about Anihilator and Smasher, and other op tier 10 collectable tanks not quite enough ? so it needed to be suplemented by adding ratings camos ? ...wow

[ebon prairie]

It’s only a camo…

[daring loom]

I mean, it’s for season coins so not just anyone can buy it straight up. You still have to work for it in a manner of speaking. I get what you mean about selling the camo after it was exclusively for getting to a certain rating but it is what it is.

[opaque edge]

I agree on this point, selling something which other people spent time and energy to get hands on is not cool and should not be done

[plush hull]

Maybe I over reacted, but there are so many other arguably better looking camos in the game now a days, I have a very hard time to find a justification. I mean why not sell the 5k Avatar too, to go with it ?

[opaque edge]

To me some camos is not just a camo. When you roll out in battle field and you see someone with a camo like this (or 5k e.g.) you kinda expect this guy to be decently good and can play/rely on him to form "accidental platoon".
same goes when someone sees you in this camo. I feel kinda "proud" wearing some camo knowing if a person is not a newbie in wOTB he will recognise and maybe play more team focus game.
Thats IMHO and maybe sound silly to some

[fallen mortar]

The camo means nothing since they made it possible to get it with 4k rating which is very easy to get
It's just a camo and rating doesn't represent skill or anything so why not make it available for everyone
Rating is just a matter of who spams the most battles

[opaque edge]

I dont believe there are hundreds of ppl who just spam ratings to get camo and eventually a tank and have rly bad stats even if there are, they are minority

[pearl compass]

I put significantly less work earning that particular camo in ranked than it would take to earn the tokens for that bundle. Seems pretty fair to me.

[inner jackal]

I bought this bundle just for the 14d of prem and the tX discount, that rating camo is already old and some ppl including me have it

[ornate spoke]

U soon will see the tournaments season cyber camos and the birthday ( every year u will get a free camos when u play 4,5,6,7 years ) camouflages will be sell soon. Which is ridiculous

[regal cosmos]

They won’t sell the current tournament camos like that, not for a while

[inner jackal]

It has to pass like 3 camo changes for. Them to sell them, or at least not the next month, that would be pretty not Chad of them

[ornate spoke]

They will , they are planning. Plus they are the people who decided to sell them soon , not you .

[dreamy wind]

they won’t. it’s a lie. wargaming selling those tournament camos would be hella disrespectful to everyone who actually worked hard to get them. if they sell them to every random person it would most likely lead to a bunch of people quitting or mass outrage

[regal cosmos]

They have the brain to sell the older camos first before considering camos currently in use as a reward, like with an old ratings camo being sold for season coins, though even the old tournament camos being sold is a very terrible idea

[ornate spoke]

If you think it is lie then I have nothing to say , it’s up to u to decide you gonna trust or not. The truth will come soon , no body knows what will happen next

[dreamy wind]

i’m just saying this rn. that if wg goes ahead with selling my hard earned cyber camos i got nothing left to say to them. it’s one thing to sell ratings camos that you spend one month casually playing to get. it’s a whole other thing to sell camos that players like me spend months training to play 5-6 days a week for a month straight. it’s a slap in the face to say the least. “thanks for wasting 2-3 months of your afternoons and evenings. we are now going to give these camos to that camping maus on your team who plays every once in a blue moon”

[regal cosmos]

They devalue tournament rewards, they remove reasons to play tournaments

They must be very generous if they sell valuable camos for credits rather than gold or stuffed into some crate

[inner jackal]

they devalued gold , so camos were the next thing, now they gona devalue , idk, avatars?

@wind peakunfortunately , WG is right, it gave u the posibility to disable chat from strangers, they even warned you that this leads to more toxicity, id say u can safely respond to them back cause they cant report you ignore them for now

u can report them if they made a mess in chat while in game, thats the only action WG can do

[wind peak]

Somebody lost a rating battle against me. After the match he came to private chat and started to insult me. I know this situation meets with violation of game rules but wargaming support basicaly said to me that just filter your private chat. So we have double standards on chat ban for players.? But I got chat ban for same reason but they won't get1?

[elfin burrow]

About your work and energy requirements point, people who are buying that bundle did play in 3 or more tournaments which last for 2 and half hours each. So it's not like WG is selling it for gold outright.

[ornate spoke]

Avatars maybe no but one thing I am sure is the epic camos will sell like 1800 gold for each

[inner jackal]

I bet most ppl bought that bundle just for prem days and research discount, camos are overrated

[ornate spoke]

can someone send me the list of parts that depending on your place?

[rose path]

Support barely isnt even WG, it's their vendor Zendesk

[dire pasture]

Its a good mode even you lose your wr wonr be affected

[tough light]

Its a bad mode, that is one of the like 3 things that are decent about it.

[ornate spoke]

bruh,
rating mm full with dumb ht

[wind peak]

If you stopped processing tickets on private chat why we still that option in player support?

[opaque edge]

Good remark 🙂 I got so surprised with the answer: (Disable people ability to send you PM) as a solution to toxic players 😄

[opaque edge]

cant remember 15 or 30 because its double season

[half gull]

Should be 10 if you don’t place high on the leaderboard and just at 5k

[ornate spoke]

Just want the camouflage on this tank, feels like an electro with the Testla gun. When the rating ends , so I can get it

[ornate spoke]

No

[fervent brook]

Someone have Camo 5k on 4202?
If yes send screen i want see if it's good pls

[daring loom]

Yayy

[peak heron]

No one cares

Congratulations though :)

😂👍

[daring loom]

XD ty

[ornate spoke]

How many days did u spend , me like 5 and a half day

[daring loom]

Way too many xD.
I just tried to do 100 points a day but I went down a few times so it took quite a while. Glad it’s over though

[ornate spoke]

It is easy if u play at the first day of rating battles

[daring loom]

I would disagree tbh. I usually wait a bit after the season starts

[tough light]

But this one looks good

[ornate spoke]

what

[sacred marlin]

u got a free tank right?

[vague canyon]

x)

[ornate spoke]

<@&481447501690568709>

[keen moon]

Catharinem#0888 was softbanned

ChiStocks#9747 was softbanned

[daring loom]

What free tank?

[sacred marlin]

u get one if u get the highest rating tier

[compact oriole]

You get parts for it. Well unless you get into top 10 (in a double season) or top 5 (in a single season)

[daring loom]

^

[north gull]

First time I play qualification continuously and I just reached 6k, I will be able to raffle 7 tanks among the subscribers 🥳

[primal scroll]

🥳

[ornate spoke]

What tank u mostly play

[north gull]

Yo - 2 Shots

[cobalt ingot]

kv2 152 by far

[agile adder]

Progetto 46
Lekpz M41 if I'm feeling quirky

[zealous sequoia]

T26E4 for the credits 💰
KV2 because..... well you know why....👌

[sharp path]

Peobably Vickers or Spaghetto

[zealous sequoia]

<@&481447501690568709> this guy....... is just trolling

[slender hound]

mmm fresh troll meat... tastes just like bald eagle 😉

[long spindle]

Oof

@round raptor

Hi

[keen moon]

Im just Ukrainskij 2.0#3366 was banned

[long spindle]

🍪

[rotund patio]

anyone know y i got plus 3 and not negitive?

[pearl compass]

Because you did well enough (damage, kills, spots, assists, caps) that the ranked fairy decided to bless you with a consolation prize for being good.

[rotund patio]

ok thanks

[rotund patio]

just got it again

[ornate spoke]

ranked fairy?

[pearl compass]

Saint stat pad?
ELO Elf?
RNGsus? (Praise be)
Panzer of the lake?
Stalin himself?
What do you want from me sir edgelord?

[ornate spoke]

no I was wondering when did wg's ranker system became a fairy but nevermind you gave me too much info.Thnx

@ornate spokeDid I intentionally blame wg, NO!
many people think the bad side when I type the word ''wg''

U can’t blame WG on rating battles, they only balanced the rating points. The whole thing is how you ganna play it. Honestly Rating battles are not hard at all

[pearl compass]

Matchmaker is matchmaker. The algorithm that determines you rating change post match is separate, theoretically complex, and not entirely understood. I can designate whatever arcane personification I please. And if you think ranked fairy is cringe why don’t you offer an explanation or an alternative. Other than MM, which is objectively incorrect.

[ornate spoke]

Yes thank you for the essay, now check my message (otherwise I would create an accident argument)

[compact oriole]

@pearl compass well we know the independent variables as wg have provided info on what stats accounts towards point distribution. The only thing we do not know is the exact formulas (for a victory, defeat and draw)

[pearl compass]

Those formulas are what I was referring to, yes

[timber frost]

never play in the morning, teams are shit in the morning, i find them best at around 8 pm

[ornate spoke]

It is not about playing in the morning of your time zone , I am saying every season of the beginning

[timber frost]

oh ok yea

[novel stump]

TheFochInRatingItsOp

[muted shuttle]

What are you trying to say?

[undone compass]

this rating is coinflipppp

[floral drift]

What tank do you guys prefer using in ratings? I'm around 4k right now and having a great streak with the 50b

[vocal gorge]

50TP prot works fine for me

[agile adder]

It should be something that can stand alone and fight, rather than team reliant imo. Don't trust ur team in ratings

[vague oracle]

and its supposed to be a team game

[serene loom]

Ok guys.

Any tips in tier 8 ratings?

I use my Action X, 252U, and Shark.

[ornate spoke]

chimera and shark spam them win games get tonk

[jade folio]

Increase the ratings general rewards with atleast a player having played like 50-75 no. of total rating games
Like lets say 1M credits at the end for Diamond players, 800k for Platinum, 600K for Gold, 400k for Silver, 200k for Bronze
Same with Free xp and prem time
50k free xp and 5 or 10 Days of prem for Diamond, 40k free xp and 4 or 8 days for Platinum....and so on
This will surely be increasing the popularity of ratings since it will be rewarding for the players to grind ratings for something in general while hardcore rating players can grind for Tanks and Gold

At the moment ratings is either for hardcore players grinding for reward tanks and gold or for players who bought new tanks and want to test them or for grinding xp for lines

[ornate spoke]

Good idea but I don’t think WG will do it like this . Hope they do listen our ideas

[little heron]

An little problem in ranked games??? BOTLAND. My first battle from far away, MM are broken 😡

Second game in ranked…OMG just OMG

[vernal pasture]

Bro u literally made 1000 damage its not even 4 shots , just do not call other people bots when you play like a bot.

[vocal gorge]

+1

[vast beacon]

^

[drowsy rapids]

silver game. we were losing and I'm shooting like hell

[little heron]

@vernal pasture i speak about MM, not about one lose. I post 2 screen you speak only about my individual performance…

[drowsy rapids]

sometimes teammates just falls apart like glass

[little heron]

@drowsy rapids I agree with you, just like it happens to make an average game. The three geniuses off topic jump on an opportunity to come and talk about damage while I evoke an opinion on the MM of the moment ... in short here or in game there are the same lol !!

[agile sphinx]

The matchmaking that put together two teams with an average 70 and 59 points apart respectively? Yeah such a horrible imbalance how dare WG mess up that badly 🤦‍♀️

[ornate spoke]

does 1000 and complains about bots lol

[little heron]

this mode does not take into account the victory rate nor the experience of the player? Just based on 10 battles in the 5-10 tier to define a league and a level?

that's it and that's why I had stopped playing it. It's even worse than random, since this mode does not influence any statistics ...

@ornate spoke another genius 🤦‍♂️ read more topic nab. Don’t speak about second screen…?

[regal cosmos]

Random battle mm doesnt consider your wr. Ratings mm only considers your rating. So if you’ve got low rating calibration, which happens from a bad performance in the 10 battles, you’ll be more likely to face others that also played badly and calibrated badly

[agile sphinx]

Play good -> get good rating
Play bad -> get bad rating
Not influenced by career stats or rerolls or anything at all, just current performance
Simple :)

[fallen mortar]

no thats pretty far off
play a god knows what amount of games > playing actually good
this is ranked

[little heron]

how to explain this tendency of unbalanced battles 7-0 0-7?

[drowsy rapids]

no MM computes the average rating in each games. I can be a platinum with silver teammate while enemy team can have all gold players.

[little heron]

yes, which means that all the levels are mixed. which means that a very bad player with a minimum of luck has the possibility of climbing his rank. This game therefore offers no mode per level.

see players with a 30% - 40% win rate in platinum 🤦‍♂️😂

[drowsy rapids]

well i just carry myself as much as i can and not be a burden. I also dont trust teammates cause thats what gets u frustrated.

Upper platinum are pretty good tho. I always get carried when I get one

[little heron]

Yes, it's true. but we must still recognize that there is a lot of mediocrity in this game (just have to look at the victory rates of teammates and opponents often blank). It's a reality and the other reality is that the game developer is not doing anything to improve their game.

[dreamy wind]

? just get good.

[agile sphinx]

Play good and you get to high ratings quicker, but then that's an issue with the points system and not the matchmaking which isn't what we are talking about at all

[little heron]

that's the problem from my point of view. the victory rate should also be taken into account to allow more balanced games to be played (this mode was created for that but the battles too often boil down to suicidal rushes, no tactics ending in 7-0 0-7 cf upper...

[agile sphinx]

Why give rerollers and sealclubbers an advantage for no reason 🤦‍♀️
7-0s happen more often because in general people play better in ratings, so that means they can exploit advantages more. When one tank dies it's a 7v6 so one team has a definite advantage, and they are more likely to exploit that and get the next kill, and the next one etc until you end up with a 7-0. It would also be interesting to see some actual stats on this instead of peoples extremely biased "observations". Also you are playing games with 3k average, if you expect to see tournament strats you need to rethink your expectations heavily

[drowsy rapids]

Ive seen some maneuvers based on the lineup. If done right can be OP lmao.

[little heron]

Oula it's complicated to discuss it with you ... I don’t make a personal case of this observation ... I just note that the level proposed in the ranked games is worse than random (and it is a shame ). But apparently you don't understand or don't want to understand ... For example, allowing a player to be able to play in a ranked game without camouflage, provisions, consumables should not be allowed. And it is possible to improve this type of fashion and make it more pleasant.

[agile sphinx]

plays at 3k average rating
"Why is the level of play so bad?"
._.

Also why add more restrictions on a gamemode that already struggles for players even on big servers...

[inner jackal]

WG should make it more appealing for players, the more players will play the smaller the rating gap will be in a game

[drowsy rapids]

Yes, that's why I am being optimistic. Teammates can be bad, MM can be bad. If ur teammates are bad. Just carry the game. It's that simple.

[little heron]

it is sure that without trying you will not have an answer 🤦‍♂️

but I might as well write to a blind man ... I just saw your function on this server

[little heron]

as soon as you press fight in this mode, you are playing russian roulette. If the teammate who has no knowledge of the maps, the positions to be taken according to the tanks played, the tactics in your team ... difficult to achieve this damage rate ... The player not having this knowledge in random will not transcribe it into ranked ... Hence the attempt to modify this mode (or create another by taking into account only the victory rate over 30 days ...). in short, an attractive mode per level. Not complicated to set up what ...

[agile sphinx]

If you have a bad team, it's difficult to do well, correct. That's what's known as a challenge and is what separates people who come here to cry about mm and people who do well. Adding any sort of wr to the system is just pointless

[little heron]

I am not coming to cry, I am coming to debate and ask for an opinion. Your arrogance and insolence are starting to be offensive. impossible to give an opinion, share an opinion and propose here?

[agile sphinx]

An little problem in ranked games??? BOTLAND. My first battle from far away, MM are broken rage
Second game in ranked…OMG just OMG

This isn't really opening a debate at all...

[little heron]

here is this type of player who has nothing to do in ranked. This E100 without camouflage and with the wrong gun ... And I'm not talking about MM, do not be offended !!!

and you take a sentence out of context ... it's forgetting the two screens ... 7-0 and 0-7 regardless of victory or defeat. your MM has a problem, it turns out. And I don't care if this player is on my team or the other, in the end he ruins the game in general!

[glossy raptor]

What do you want him to do? Stop playing the game? He, just like you, have the right to play this game and to play what game mode he wants.

[little heron]

of course he has the right. but at least with the right gun and camouflage ... This is straightforward suicide. Obviously this player did not understand the mechanics and intricacies of this game ...

[glossy raptor]

Sure the “right” gun and camouflage would be advantageous, but it’s not like you would end up playing a horrible tank without them. It still works well.

[little heron]

and it is also a service to this type of player to explain to him that the 150mm of the E100 is better than the 128. And that paying for camouflage makes it profitable by the damage done. Because there obviously this player arrived in tier 10 and is totally lost. Whether ranked or random ....

but apparently everything is going very well in this game 👀😂

[agile sphinx]

Paying for a camo isn't actually necessarily profitable at all, as an E100 you will probably not need better concealment. Also if you have just unlocked the E100 and don't want to waste your fxp (assuming you have some) on the gun when you can grind it out then you don't have a choice but to play with the 12.8

It's not a good play, but at 3k average rating in the team's you don't expect people to be good.

[little heron]

ah yes when I read this I begin to understand ... you are saying that it is not necessary to put up a camouflage (offered for sale or winner by mission)... !!!! And that a stock tank has its place at the top tier (and for this example ranked at the risk of weighing for a full tank among the reds)
🍿

[inner jackal]

99% of players who won't use a camo are white wr with 3 digit avg dmg and u can't prove me wrong

[little heron]

apparently we don’t see the same thing as him on this game ... we are talking about World Of Tanks Blitz here reassure me ???

[inner jackal]

The truth is, for a heavy tank, especially the e100 size, a camo isn't necessary, but why not customize your tank to your liking.
If someone doesn't have a camo it means they are broke, or they haven't figured it out how to equip one, both meaning they shouldn't be so high in the tech tree

[little heron]

I totally agree on this point. But I think it's not clear to everyone ... Maybe start with a tutorial. Be aware at the top that this action ruins this game. The players come at the top tier as if they were in rank 1 ...

[charred hemlock]

aint easy playing the amx 30 b, though its a fairly outdated tank and REAL hard to drive, try doing 3k in it constantly, ur best will prob be 2k-2.5k

[violet meadow]

Honestly, even without boosters, you will be able to get the 150 mm before 100% crew, I agree with @little heron, you can still play wha type of battle you want but if you are in ratings, that mean that you decide it and it’s more competitive than normal, so it’s normal to expect form a player to know the basic knowledge

[elfin burrow]

It's true
I always wait for the Weekly Clan Rewards Camo if I am out of Camouflages and have a new tier 10 cos then otherwise teammates think I am broke or newbie.

[agile sphinx]

It's 3k average rating that describes a lot of the players there lol

@violet meadow You could if you didn't gold the crew, but fxp by gold is much more expensive than a crew. It's 3k average rating it's not going to be competitive idk what you expect.

@little heron It's not necessary for anyone to play the way you want them to, you want better teams then get to a good rating.

[violet meadow]

Fair enough but I don’t know what type of people will gold the crew and let it’s gun stock

[little heron]

you are painful to always bring everything back to stat or others ... I just want fun playing through BALANCED battles

but this isn’t possible at present by the combo of players coming to the top tier without having the skills, the development of the game and the modes offered. Winning or losing a game while being rolled over is not very pleasant. Die and watch or participating in the team's victory with a shot seems to me to be more fun ... it's up to you developer to allow that. But I will stop the deaf dialogue with you here, no need to continue I can still see myself on your chat on the website of 6 years ago where you were already not listening to your customers

[pastel axle]

What the actual….
He is a community helper but you talk to him like he’s the guy at wargaming that made all the bad things go into the game…
Calm down and get your wits together

[ornate spoke]

if ur mad about that i wonder what you would do if u got the 2 afk tanks teams i have been getting

There should be a compensation if you have an afk and you lose the game, it is extremely unfair and annoying

[little heron]

it's a discussion of what's going on in the game and the folks at Wargaming are reading that up. I am not insulting or provocative ... otherwise I will already be banned 😉

[pastel axle]

Or there’s no Mod wanting to read all this lol

Edit: @little heron doesn’t seem like you enjoy it too much at all

[little heron]

the same problem already known 6 years ago lol…too bad because this game is excellent

[agile sphinx]

I've already explained how having better players makes it more likely to get 7-0s, it doesn't mean the game is less balanced. I'm not a developer I'm a player that will fully and relentlessly criticise what needs it, but crying about the matchmaking is not useful at all

[ornate spoke]

i know, my point was half serious half humor

[ornate spoke]

😂😂😂Half Head 😅

[inner jackal]

When wg will rework ratings maybe the 7-0 or 0-7 will happen less and less frequently

[jade folio]

Guys ratings is not a competitive mode
It is mode to test new tanks and get a feel for them
Randoms is more of a competitive mode where your stats matter to join good clans
Ratings only matter if you are grinding for position for the reward tank for which you need to do endless grind even more than normal events

[inner jackal]

???????
HELLO???!!!
i hope u are joking

[gilded flax]

hes just joking xd

[inner jackal]

He better be😩 😩 😩

[jade folio]

Nah I am not
Ratings in no way affect your stats
Rewards are not worth grinding for unless you are going for the main reward tank....and tbh it ain't even worth grinding for those mediocre tanks and lose sanity when you can get normal events like current one or 50TP proto which are giving you better tanks with way less work required

[gilded flax]

xdd this is actually a decent troll, made me laugh when i saw it

[atomic trellis]

Agreed.

[fallen mortar]

I'm mean he is fairly right about it
Nobody cares about ratings I use it to test t10s and some Prems so I get a feeling for them before ruining my stats in them anyway

[inner jackal]

he is pretty right about it ,cause the MM is no different than randoms when u are in gold or platinum, unless u really grind your soul to get into diamond or even higher to get the main tank, then there is really no point in this

[opaque edge]

It's also quite useful to get more silver 🙂

[little heron]

When reading, you come in this mode to make credit or to mount elements or because it does not affect your statistics. In short, not for the game mode itself ... Wargaming should do something to remedy this in order to allow for a truly competitive mode ...

and I rather agree with your remark @inner jackal the point system is very disturbing: this 704 afk seen in part today has lost less points than his M103 teammate who played him… Everything is fine ! an answer to this Wargaming?

[inner jackal]

WG partially fixed the 1st pet of your needs, u need 100% crew and top modules to be able to play ratings in that tank, but still there is missing out on the enjoyment of playing this game mode

[livid sandal]

The person with better ratings should lose more. That is the reason. Think about that way, one was really lucky in his/her first 10 battles and starts ratings with around 4.5k ratings. But can only do one or two shots afterwards. If that 1-2 shells helps him to protect its rating points, then he/she ruin everyone elses games for a longer time period. That is why people with higher rating points should be punished more. 365 is not a big damage. Just one shell and M103 player has around 730 more points.

[steel ingot]

Discorcd

[agile adder]

Facts

[vocal gorge]

Games in rating tier VIII be like

[opaque edge]

😄 😄 😄

[ionic ember]

Ugh, I know I have high rating and everything, but how is this only +8 WG? 🤪

[inner jackal]

U just answered your own question, it's bc u have high rating score

[ionic ember]

I get +10 points for 4k damage in K-91 🤪🤪🤪🤪

[fallen mortar]

Obviously because of renamed user😂
And because I didn't play a meta tank

[regal cosmos]

you won against a team with lower average rating too

[quick stratus]

fix MM for rating, with tier 9 non stop in tier 10-and only two tank tier 9

[regal cosmos]

Thatll be a longer wait time because people dont run tier 9s often enough

[quick stratus]

But why every time in tier X,why not with tier 8

[rapid pumice]

because more ppls play tier10 than 8 in ratings usually

[keen pelican]

I see 41wr in the rating battles while I'm on platinum, WTF, if you don't want to stop the game despite your 41wr, at least stop the rating battles, THANKS.

[quick stratus]

yes and thats a problem I'm in diamond and come player in team who even not calibratet rating!

[little heron]

especially since it is better to have 7 players at 3500, rather than having one player at 6000 and the other six in 2000 ... Where is the balance and the homogeneity in this case?
As all the rank levels are mixed (as in random) and it’s even worse in ranked since the rank and the win rate are mixed ... it gives a big rubbish

but since they are convinced that this mode allows to have balanced battles ....

[lime tinsel]

Tiers shouldn't even be a thing in ratings. You shouldn't be able to drop to tier 8 in ratings and not play with players in tier X when everyone is competing for the same rewards. Having a single tier be available in ratings is a huge common sense change, it shortens queue time and makes the gamemode more competitive, even if less players are playing. And it doesn't even have to be tier X only all the time, different seasons can have a different tier every season as the tier for ratings. So tier X one season, then tier IX, then tier 8, then go back to tier X. World of Warships does this for ranked play where every season the ranked battles mode is focused around a different tier, which makes it fresh and new for everyone involved. It shifts the meta and gives something new and interesting to players.

It's such a simple and easy fix literally just to massively cut queue times by a ton.

Also, another thing is ratings should NOT just be available month after month after month. Shorten the seasons to three weeks, increase the rewards given for the top players, and limit the number of seasons per year (4-5), and HAVE DOWNTIME BETWEEN RATINGS SEASONS. Having ratings being available ALL THE TIME dilutes the amount of interest players have in ratings and completely makes it pointless, since rewards are also very weak due to the fact that they are given out every month. In any other WG game ranked battles have seasons that are set apart and all give unique and different rewards which incentivizes players to play a rare, exclusive skill-based gamemode to get those rewards.

This fixes the overall complete lack of player interest in ratings.

Reduce tier spread, reduce availiability, increase rewards. Congrats, you've just fixed 90% of the problems that ratings has.

[agile sphinx]

10/10 for the good maths

To get an average of 3500 with one 6k player, the other 6 will have an average of 3083 (400 points per player which is what maybe 20 games at that low ratings?)
Or to have an average of 3500 with 6 players at 2k you'd need one player at 12.5k.

WR and rating are roughly correlated (I can try find the graph someone made a while ago) so it's more even teams than random battles. You need to stop whining and making things up and either start saying something constructive or saying nothing at all.

On a very different note having more limited seasons and tier 10 only is a great idea and should definitely be considered by WG, the only issue that would be left is making it harder to gain points to stop anyone with 2k battles a month in ratings making it to 5k which is relatively easy to do

[little heron]

I noted above that I stopped answering you ... do the same please. Sorry for not having taken a calculator to write my example (so far 99% of people reading this example will understand me). in short, don't make it a personal case. The debate is fueled and is more constructive (except your posts)
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[lime tinsel]

Actually the correlation is three-fold: Skill / winrate, amount of ratings battles played, and the rating. You can't just directly correlate winrate and rating because the more you play, the higher your ratings gets. Of course there is a VERY loose correlation with skill since that's required, but since the system needs you to play games in order to raise your ratings this argument isn't internally valid due to other variables.

Math aside, he makes a good point about the dangers of average rating as a matchmaking guide: It's a bad way of balancing teams, and punishes a single player way too hard for simply being very high rating. There's not a better solution I would say but hey, it's still a flaw.

[undone pulsar]

I think we can end this before things get out of hand if you can’t play nicely

[misty raptor]

👀

[neat wind]

👀 useless ping?

[neat wind]

@little heron i really dont understand where you are going with that

[misty raptor]

Don’t ping mods when your error is corrected.

[ruby umbra]

I don't get it.

[ornate spoke]

Furthermore @little heron it is perfectly acceptable to you to choose not to respond to a user. It is not okay for you to tell them not to respond to you. They are free to respond as they please as long as they abide by the rules of the server.

[neat wind]

getting back on topic tho:

this is absolutely something I agree with, basically 100% on. the one thing i would add is that currently, there's no incentive for skilled players to play ratings when a less skilled player can simply grind more battles and achieve a higher rating. maybe...that's what WG wants to reward, but it doesn't seem right to me that WG should punish players who don't want to dedicate hundreds of hours to a single season, and then do that with other seasons as well.

so my solution would be to either put a limit on how many battles can earn points in a season, or a limit on how many battles can be played to earn points in a single day.

[fallen mortar]

Mods raiding this channel pls halp

[pseudo heart]

Just to get involved in this discussion (so much pink here, oof). If you start throwing around numbers, it's important to check that they're correct. In ratings, the overall ratings of the team is fairly balanced. That doesn't mean the ratings of the individual players reflect each other - that's not what ratings is about. And the rating score someone has doesn't say much about someone's skill at the game - even 45% players can reach 5k ratings if they spam enough battles

It's a different kind of mm though, as it takes more into account than randoms - namely, the ratings of the team on average

My biggest issue with ratings is the sheer toxicity in it

[inner jackal]

Imo limiting ratings to t 10 only will not do good for a money eating company, bc most of its sales are made with t8 tanks

[pseudo heart]

That's why wg won't do that

[little heron]

we agree that a big player is therefore "more" penalized and that makes the battle less "balanced" ... the counterproduction of this mode.

[neat wind]

can't this game be driven by anything other than profit...

[pseudo heart]

And at the summit they admitted that back when that used to be the case, there wasn't enough interest in ratings

[ruby umbra]

Yeah and it's been trash since the beginning for exactly the reasons stated. Big rating = worse teammates.

[neat wind]

in literally every single aspect of this game

[pseudo heart]

Yup

[neat wind]

even tournaments are profit driven

[pseudo heart]

Yup - another reason why I generally stop as soon as I reach 5k - in the months I bother with it at all

[neat wind]

like honestly, i know this is somewhat offtopic, but im honestly tired of shutting down good ideas across the blitz spectrum because it could possibly lead to less revenue, in some way. but its the honest answer almost every time

almost every Blitz player would agree that Ratings is pointless for its original intent: skill based gameplay that gives players a skill rating

[inner jackal]

Honestly there is still not much of interest in this, besides the 100 players who try to get either the tank or parts for it, it feels like randoms but a bit more selective

[pseudo heart]

Exactly that. But I think it's played enough and with enough prems that makes it lucrative enough for wg to add a tank as a reward to it

I like pubs because I like fighting nabs, and I don't want to diehard my games - I've never been into that. I literally just play ratings for rbm or tank parts. Which feels a lot more like a chore than a fun part of the game

[little heron]

it's still a shame to have released a mode with the idea of ​​balanced battle to get there ... And why not release a really balanced mode by level (I mean 30-day victory rate) a like madgames, realist? A full-scale test over a given period?

[pseudo heart]

That'd cater to only very few people - you have to remember that most of the playerbase is used to losing more than they win

[agile sphinx]

For how easy it is to gain points it's not actually that loose a correlation until you get to the top then it's just who has the most time. If it were possible to get 14 players with similar ratings then that would be great but there simply aren't enough people and this system works very similarly

(Ty very much to Galabru for the data btw)

[neat wind]

i would love to play Ratings in an entirely skill based environment, where people could actually get hardstuck at a certain peak and just not be able to advance further. the fact that any player with enough time can top the leaderboard completely ruins the relevancy of the gamemode

by being able to do that, it invalidates the prestige of higher ranks

[pseudo heart]

True, but at the same time, there too, if wg were to make it like that, only very very very few players would be able to get that rank or tank

[neat wind]

isn't that the idea?

[inner jackal]

My realistic take on this is that WeeGee won't do anything about ratings cause it won't bring them any revenue, just as with Marks of excellence, so, from a company point of view is slightly understandable, but as a company that is so in touch with its community, showing so much carelessness towards its "skill based" game mode is just laughable at, shame on WeeGee for putting money above player base

@pseudo heart my girl, they added moving plates to a "premium tank" that costs real money, don't tell me they can't add 3 stripes

[pseudo heart]

Not to wg, imo. Atm, even the below average players can reach this rank, gain tank parts and feel fantastic about their accomplishments

That makes them play more, spend more, and all of that

[pseudo heart]

Marks of excellence is also a graphics issue, though, and a mobile device limitation issue, so that part, I get. If it was easy, we'd have them already

[neat wind]

so if Ratings was limited to say, a 2 hour session per day, only limited to Tier 10, and the MM promised to only put 14 players of the same rank together in a match: i think the popularity of the gamemode would be boosted, especially by good players.

and, just to ensure the MM could match teams faster, the MM could just get the players together, then once a team is made, then they could select picks for the tanks they would play. you could also have the team vote to ban 1 map from the pool as well

[pseudo heart]

I don't think it'd be boosted. I think it'd make players hardly play it altogether. Look at Asia server

They've got a tiny time slot for ratings, and as such, most people don't even bother with it

Not to mention the waiting times

[neat wind]

what's their time slot?

we have 7 hours on NA

edit: actually i think its 9 hrs rn

[pseudo heart]

Would have to look it up, but it's only 3 or 4 hours, I believe. Lemme check to make sure

[neat wind]

interesting

what's the time slot for EU?

[little heron]

this would make it possible to involve the players and to have a minimum interest in the game they are playing. Also if they don't try to balance the game by level, no way of knowing if it works. the trick is to want it to see it 😉

[pseudo heart]

8 or 9am to midnight,

[inner jackal]

Idk man we should really start being vocal with ratings, @neat wind in that ccs stream u had with wg, maybe I missed some questions, but did anyone ask about ratings rework, if not, yall should try to bring this up when times will bring another opportunity of a stream like that

Oh then I must've missed that out

[neat wind]

we talked about ratings for like 30 minutes

i had more stuff to say but they had to cut it short

it was in the 2nd hour

maybe it was 20 minutes but like, half of us had a question about ratings. Ratings rework was my 2nd question

[pseudo heart]

I didn't add it to mine (safe toxicity), mainly because others had listed it already XD

[neat wind]

it is reasonable to want a Ratings mode that resembles an entirely skill based system, right?

like im imagining a system where top clans don't look to random battle stats (30 day tier 10 stats in pubs), but look for a player's Rating career peak and current peak in the season

[pseudo heart]

Yes and no - yes, but it'd cater to well less than half the playerbase, which makes it unlikely to happen

Don't get me wrong - I fully get people wanting it
But I understand why it doesn't happen

[little heron]

at the base it is a mode intended for. except that it looks like everything but that. It became worse than random, hence my coming here to get info

[neat wind]

the thing is, with other games, the main gamemode is the competitive gamemode. CSGO/League/Overwatch/Valorant/DOTA are made off their competitive mode. they have casual modes for people to feel like they don't need to sweat and can just have fun, but even the worst performing players will play their competitive modes

which is entirely the opposite in Blitz

our casuals are Random matches

[inner jackal]

The only competition I see in ratings is battling with your own allies to keep them alive for long enough to win smh

Honestly I don't get how someone enjoys a game it is bad at, like, what u enjoy, dying???!!!

[neat wind]

but those make up the vast majority of battles

[pseudo heart]

I've never been into doing the competitive gamemodes in other games either tbf 😂 I play a game to enjoy it, not to have to try my absolute hardest to get anywhere

It's the same reason I prefer playing my games on easy or normal mode, instead of hard mode

Not saying all players are like that, mind. But I reckon the average player is, like me, a casual gamer, not a diehard one

[neat wind]

i think its just pent up frustration about not having enough challenges in this game

i can't really make my schedule work for tournament seasons. i can do QT's and Season coins and other 1 off tournaments, but committing to a whole season would be too much

so for the normal solo player, what challenges actually exist in the game? there's medals that no one really cares about and tank collecting, which I've already done a pretty decent job of. the only thing left for me to accomplish is putting up even bigger numbers in pub matches

because ratings are just de-motivating to play

[pseudo heart]

Can't disagree there. Though, speaking only for myself, I enjoy just playing the game and taking it battle by battle. I'm not looking for hard accomplishments or stats

[serene loom]

I second that. This is from one of my friends. He lost 92 points.

[pseudo heart]

Ratings for me is a way to work towards a tank I don't have

[neat wind]

yeah, that, or grinding credits

[muted shuttle]

Silver league gains and loses quit a bit, no?

[neat wind]

credits and XP are kinda meaningless to me right now though: i have enough to completely skip the next 3 lines

high silver and low gold are the most volatile leagues: you can gain or lose a ton of points

its done that way on purpose

92 points is still quite a lot for a 3k loss tho

[inner jackal]

We still don't have the rng That gives or takes points from us after a battle, imo it's maybe it's set between 2 values and rng chooses one value to add or retrieve, which is highkey dumb if that's the case

[serene loom]

Even so, someone who did 3k damage shouldn’t deserve to lose almost 100 points. It must feel good to be a mod because slow mode doesn’t affect you. You sense the envy in my statement. The pain of how I feel. The sorrow that almost everyone has to deal with slow mode.

[lime tinsel]

Even the gold reward is pretty much peanuts especially to experienced players. I have 105k gold lol so basically I'm just playing for a Lorraine.

I think though that carrying a team but still losing should give more points than just single digit pity rewards

[pseudo heart]

Did he get the camper medal by any chance?

Because people get less xp for damage over distance, and less xp is less rating points (in this case more negative points), so that could explain part of it, maybe?

[agile sphinx]

I'd say it's much more likely it was just the 10th battle of calibration

[pseudo heart]

Or that

[daring loom]

Wait, u get less xp for dmg over distance?

Would explain why I’ve still not aced my waffle.
Ye Ik it’s popular but most of my big dmg games in the waffle have the camper medal
Good to know though

[pseudo heart]

You've never noticed that?

Large damage games that aren't aces almost always have the camper medal

Excluding super popular tanks, of course

[serene loom]

It's likely he didn't.

Also it must feel pleasurable to be a mod right? I mean you don't have to deal with slowmode.

You can sense the jealousy in my statement, can't you?

(Also I'm not trying to be passively aggressive. Just being humorous).

[pseudo heart]

I've no idea what you're talking about

[inner jackal]

In conclusion
Ratings = 💩
Randoms = ratings but with less 💩

[misty raptor]

You share EXP with those spotting for you. You only get full Exp for ones you self spot

[pseudo heart]

Never looked at it that way, but that makes total sense =)

[pseudo heart]

That sums it up nicely 😂😂

[serene loom]

I second that.

I'm stuck at 3.5k ratings. I use the Action X the most. Every time I use other tanks I lose horribly.

Won't play tier 10 because I suck. Won't play tier 9 because I'll meet tier 10.

[pseudo heart]

I switch tanks based on what I'm losing in. Generally if I'm having a bad med day, heavies work. And vice versa. Currently at 4.5k, hope to reach 5.5, but will definitely aim for 5k at least because tank parts

Still need to do two rbm streams too

I'm pretty much only playing tier VIII. Little less diehard

[inner jackal]

@serene loom and this is where u make a mistake, maybe for NA is different than on eu, but here, tier 8 is the most competitive one, whereas t10 is like randoms

[pseudo heart]

Really?

I find that at tier X I keep meeting the same superunicorns

Which I prefer not to as they'll wreck me 😂

That's why I've been sticking to tier VIII instead

[serene loom]

Tier 8 chad.

At tier 10 I do below average to say the best.

At tier 8 I do decent.

And tier 8 isn't as toxic as tier 10 as tier 10 is full of people who rage when they lose.

[ornate spoke]

Why feel so boring, I just want the camo and I have to wait like 14days more ,feels disaster):

[inner jackal]

idk how but u got both bad stuff and good stuff wrong lmao

[ornate spoke]

Bruh
Thats what i experience
Maybe you have other experiences in eu idk

[drifting plover]

T8 premium tanks are not problem at all for experienced players 😁
You will struggle more for example: against very good player who is playing ru or something like that, while you can easy destroy bad player with premium tank (even if a good player is playing op tank you still can win against him if you know how to aim and know how to make best decision at every moment of the battle 🙂 )

[opaque edge]

I personally dont like seeing 4 Progettos in same battle

[shadow wyvern]

lol, i personally dont like seeing 5 smashers in the same battle

[muted shuttle]

@ornate spoke Please mind your language

[copper mauve]

meadsy rekt #2

this time I killed him pog

33hp killsteal worth lol

[ornate spoke]

Alright chill out, but that is really what i have in mind

[ornate spoke]

bud, you did 1600 damage. stop touting it

[tribal laurel]

Good day all.
Just 1 question.

Is this really possible?

[ornate spoke]

Hi

[daring loom]

If you mean the player that gained 168 points, yes, it’s possible. That has to be their last calibration battle which is why it’s such a big increase

[tribal laurel]

Oh ok.
Thx.
I thought it was a bug....lol👍 🤣 🤣

[unreal gyro]

I’m a 40%er in Gold so is this proof that winrate doesn’t determine how good you are at the game?

[rapid pumice]

no it's the opposite, unless u are in diamond nobody cares about rating, important statistics are win rate and avarage damage, especially in 30days (u can see them on Blitzstars)

[steady raptor]

This ^

I played 11 rating battles last night in my RBM stream - winning 9 of them at my ~4400 rating score.

Issue with ratings is all players are in the same scoring pool despite there being 4 active tiers. Additionally, ratings score rewards games in. That us to say the more games you play the higher your rating (as a general rule of thumb). Compounding the issue is that rating score isn't correlated with win rate... it aligns to arbitrary performance values which align more with farming rather than successfully winning battles.

The one good thing ratings does show is that 30 day stats are super relevant for determining how good a player is - I.e. a way to see past legacy stats.

[humble flame]

How about making rating available only for tech tree tank. In this way is prevented that player with our experience join them without having at least one tier 7. Also make the game more interesting, if all the players are in tech tree is more challenging because the tech tree tank relay more on skill than statistics.

[opaque edge]

Id also want Tech tree only ratings...

[ornate spoke]

i dont know about that but maybe a minimum amount of battles could be better like 2k+

[humble flame]

The problem aren't really the players. mainly a tier 8(where there are more premium) there are always tank that cannot be handled by tech tree tank.

[ornate spoke]

yeh i agree
but the problem is that if that happens there will be even less players

[humble flame]

Probably a reward in gold and/or credits based on the league you achieve at the end of the season will make rating more attractive. Even if there are already bonus for victory.

[ornate spoke]

yeah maybe a crate lol

[safe obsidian]

best way to fix ratings matchmaking: make it so that we are only allowed to play in 1 tier

[rapid pumice]

like on wot pc, where ratings are tier10 only

[opaque edge]

is it? 😮 That would actually make more sense, simply because it would condense all ppl in same queue. I'd say everyone would win from this, both Diamond players and lower tiers

[gilded schooner]

If I have 50+ battles in Platinium for tier X, can I get the Animated Camo when I reach the Diamond Leauge?

[vague canyon]

yes, why not ?

[inland sigil]

kinda agree cuz ppl wont cry of being low tier and etc

[humble flame]

Only one tier but without premium

[proud kite]

I wish there were harsher penalties for people trolling in ratings. Dracula has 1700 avg damage and is 16k games with 66%wr but has 595 rating.

[drowsy rapids]

I play rating because of camo. Maybe rating doesnt matter to him

[vestal ridge]

Is there other game modes besides me having to capture the point

[tiny oyster]

i absolutely hate that if a team wins the player that was afking the whole game and got 0 dmg got 7 rating points, while the losing team even with like 3-4k dmg on tier X looses rating point

[ornate spoke]

Can we get the camos before the rating ends , it is very annoying to wait like almost 1 and a half month

[gilded schooner]

I just reached the Diamond Leauge.Its my first time, will I get the animated camos guys?

[regal cosmos]

If you have 50 battles in any one tier, you get the camo for the most played tank there

[peak heron]

what's the lowest ranking opponent/teammate you guys have ever met?

my lowest was a teammate with 753, but he played better in that game than one of the goldleague guys xD

[sharp path]

5

[peak heron]

Holy moly wow

[opaque edge]

😮

[next locust]

6000 dmg is what I can do but 5000 dmg is pretty good.

[inland sigil]

ratings

[ornate spoke]

Fair and balanced 😌👌

[fathom yew]

yes this is nice iodine that

[regal cosmos]

Un-Calibrated players

[agile adder]

This is true

[cedar cairn]

What if he gave you up

[agile adder]

Then he already let me down

[ionic ember]

@cinder grove @radiant basinnefer please take it easy on me with the countdowns today! 😅

[cinder grove]

XD😈

[idle cobalt]

How appho is being the 1st in EU rating all the time

[brave pelican]

stupid matchmaking

[mental bronze]

Ahh yes...didnt expect to get rickrolled through wotb discord

[agile adder]

A fate worse than death

[bold sequoia]

679

[ornate spoke]

is7 with diamond camo if possible?

[gilded flax]

anyone with stb1 diamond camo please?

[open loom]

Found a better one. But the question is what's the point here? Looks like he did that on purpose.
And now I wonder.. Can you get in minus with your points? 🤣

[sharp path]

U cant,lowest is 0

[thick kindle]

When will the season restart?

[lime tinsel]

A PSA to all players currently only spamming WT in ratings: You guys are literally not helping the team at all. You are counting on sitting in spawn, not pushing, not helping the team, and waiting for damage.

Not only that, when told to move up, you guys get extremely toxic and actually scream like little kids about people actually DARING TO ATTACK. Oh no, we are playing the game, unlike you clowns that sit in the back and try to profit off of losses.

Stop playing like the team has already lost and maybe use a tank that can actually do things instead of being insanely toxic and waiting for the team to lose. This also applies to the clowns that play the 183 or Grille.

Also to WG: what a toxic, stupid tank. Ever wonder why WT is the most played out of all the tanks in the game? It's easy to play at the back , clicking and suck your thumbs at the same time. The thing is so obviously broken, it's not funny. It's got everything except armor. Nerf it already.

[ornate spoke]

I am waiting this for 60tp, still need to wait

[brave pelican]

@lime tinsel you spam t22 in rating which in my opinion is not better

[lime tinsel]

@brave pelican at least I play actively and try to move instead of camping. Plenty of people play OP tanks in ratings but the point of my post is that camping and trying to farm damage off a losing team, then crying when your team attacks and loses because you were sitting in spawn, is pathetic and toxic

Otherwise there is zero reason for people to play tanks like WT or the 183 in ratings

[atomic trellis]

@lime tinsel do you like my camo? 🙂

[fallen mortar]

183 at least isn't as stupidly broken as WT

Can hit you everywhere with aim perk
Outtrades basically everything
Still has pretty good pen
Has DPM
Isn't slow as hell
Fully rotatable turret
Good gd
Good camo
No Armor but who cares when HE does nothing to you

[lime tinsel]

Playing a game where there's 2 WTs on each team is so boring and stale, because you just know there's two basically unspottable tanks sitting in a bush somewhere in spawn. It's especially terrible on the more open maps and it completely makes these games so drawn out and boring.

[primal scroll]

mfw

[sharp path]

Agreed,just used wt for the 1st time since getting out of the noobyhood and its broken af,camo is ridiculus and shouldnt be that way. High camo sure is ok,but you shouldnt be able to shoot and get behind a building and only then get spotted

[steady raptor]

Find the wt. Farm the wt. Get good. Lol

On a serious note - the issue of people playing any tank to farm for ratings score over the win is a symptom of the fundamental flaw in how the ratings system currently works.

[fallen mortar]

You can't find the WT that's the problem with its camo 😂
And getting to the enemy redline only works if the enemy is gone but that's usually only when you've burned through some good amount of your HP so the WT gets even deadlier

[late mural]

WT is very good except in gaining points. Did 4k in a recent game, more than twice anyone else, but +0 pts (on a loss).

Are TDs penalized in ratings somehow?

[daring loom]

How many games did that take you?

[regal cosmos]

2300

[fallen mortar]

Certified nolifes

[indigo path]

lost some battles

[steady raptor]

I think this is an issue in ratings in general. 2300 battles is A LOT by any standard.

Or rather. We can do a very crude analysis. 1 battle is ~ 3 mins. This is probably an underestimation for ratings and doesn't factor in general time in tje garage and between matches. It is a very safe and Conservative minimum game time.

2300 battles at 3 mins a battle works out as 115 hours.

This correlates to part time employment.

For ratings to be a more successful mode, it needs to reward skill more than time invested.

[opaque edge]

I had mini objective to myself to try and get to 5k, but playing 10-15 battles a day for first half of a month I quickly realised it's just not worth it. Except bigger silver reward, there is very little "rewarding" playing Ratings. There seems to be much more toxic ppl playing Ratings as well (idk why) and steam roll games a very often.

[steady raptor]

Steamroller games because MM balances rating score but rating score isn't indicative just of ability past a certain point.

Yes you need to be X good to reach platinum and diamond league - but differentials within that more down to number of games played rather than how good you are per se (for most people).

Just go to nay top clan and check their players rating scores... you got some sat in gold and platinum after calibration despite being obscenely good mech8cal super unicum players.

Random matches are just that. Random. The odds of you getting 7 very good players on one team versus 7 not so good players on the other team are lower because the candidate player pool feeding the MM is larger and unfiltered. Ratings plauer base is smaller and higher skilled players are lumped closer together. Remember most matches have rating ranges from mid-Gold to low-Diamond.

It's common sense that the chance of having a larger ability skew between teams will be higher.

[kind sequoia]

Crispy👀

[plush idol]

The lowes I ever met had 1357 and it were last week I met this bot in ratings...of course in my team

[lime tinsel]

The best thing is when someone that no-lifed ratings tries to boast that they have a higher rating than me and therefore better, but have like over 1k games played lmao.

I have 183 games played this season, and I'm top 10. Just because you spammed ratings doesn't make you a better player than anyone else lol

@opaque edge It's actually BAD to be at the top of the ratings leaderboard. The most logical way to play a ratings season like this (provided you have the basic skill to be top 10) is actually to simply not play until there are 3-4 weeks left in the season. Since being high rating gets you worse teams on avg, it's a terrible experience and it is ALWAYS better to play catch-up than lead in front.

[gilded flax]

0 points in a loss is good though

[fallen mortar]

whats the top 10 on NA in terms of points range ?
on EU with over 6,2k youre like barely top 30

[lime tinsel]

it's pretty low here. Top is 5.7k, lowest is me at 5.4. it seems that people here are simply not interested in the rewards, which is fair

[fallen mortar]

less players and longer queue prob aswell plus ive heard that the rating times for NA are different, idk if thats right tho
highest ive ever went was 5,4 or 5,5k was one hell of a experience i really dont want to do again

as long as people like that exist in ranked itll always be painful and i understand every single one that insults them because these people make the gamemode a pain in the bum + another t8 chimera monkey that pushed me into the enemy

[fallen mortar]

how does someone, redlining the entire game, doing 1 shot of dmg as one of 2 top tier tanks, get 6 points for literally nothing

[rustic spear]

idk m8

[lime tinsel]

That's the mindset of every single person playing WT. It's completely toxic and unfun to play with or against. It basically assumes the team loses and is completely selfish without any regard for teamplay.

[steady raptor]

Spot on. Ratings gets infinitely more tolerable once the plebs have been shuffled into position and you can just climb up to a decent spot.

Re: rewards- the game is global but economies of scale are not. Prizes / rewards in Blitz are worth X. In some Countries hourly wage might be X but in others it might be 5X... so people from those countries will objectively invest differing amounts of time to earn X in game.

[muted shuttle]

What's that camo on the RHM? 👀

[gilded rampart]

This is the camo from the last pass

[fallen mortar]

last battlepass had them

[muted shuttle]

Looks great, pity I don't buy BPs

Thanks though!

[ebon prairie]

You could’ve gotten this one for free

[agile adder]

Yeah it was free

[solemn hazel]

for the ratings thing what is favorite tank

[fallen mortar]

The best ones epr tier obviously
Smasher, Anni, T29 for T7
Shark, chimera, prog, T26E5, ax, t32 for t8
Cr and WT for t9
And on t10 basically everything but TDs

[flat bolt]

Why does it take so long to get into battle?

[drifting plover]

Where's Emil I :D ?

[agile adder]

Because no one plays Ratings
There's a delicate balance between when the most players are on Ratings and when most good players are on Ratings

[inland sigil]

most of the rating players r these rerolls who try to farm stats as hard as possible just to be 70er or a 60er which is very annoying, rating should effect ur stats else its just a useless gamemode

[steady raptor]

Stats then become meaningless... rating battle count shouldn't factor into global battle count - just like other game modes

[inland sigil]

i mean only 10% of the pb play for the rewards but others just to farm a tank or just farm battles, I'd say not to count rating battles like any other gamemode and maybe then these who play it only to farm stuff wont even bother

[muted shuttle]

Change your nickname please @ebon prairie

[steady raptor]

@ebon prairie just drop the f in the omg is what the delightful moderator means 👍

[drowsy rapids]

does rating battles included in win rate

[short perch]

why they don't allow only to tech tree tanks to be played in ranked? at least there will not be the same OP haloween tanks in the mm

[livid sandal]

Nope.

[steady raptor]

The issue of this ^ is mostly linked to people inflating their battle count stat while holding artificially high WRs.

For example. I play one game in my t22 and win it and do 4500 damage. I then play 300 rating battles in the t22. If you check my stats my t22 has 301 battles at 100% WR and 4500 average damage.

I don't know how this factors into tournament seeding. I also acknowledge it doesn't affect game balance etc. - it is just people artificially making their accounts and abilities look better than they are. It's the gaming equivalent of injecting synthol.

edit: actually I haven't confirmed if individual tank battle count goes up but definitely your global battle count. I'll check later.

[agile adder]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-9107720

[livid sandal]

In "tanks" section for t22 you will see 1 battle (in left-hand side). In tank performance section (right-hand side) you will see
Battles 301
Regular 1
Rating 300
Tournament 0

[steady raptor]

Ah OK thanks for correcting. O7

[rose path]

as you can see Rolling, ratings hasnt changed much xdd

[fallen anvil]

Who has some tips on how to win ratings or get better team cuz im at 3.700 and playing with bronze...

[vague canyon]

carry more

[steady raptor]

Lol - I'm at 4800 and had a game with someone at 1500 ish...

Chooser tighter team rating scores spreads or shorter MM queues. You can't have both.

[vague canyon]

personnaly, I prefer a shorter mm queue 👀 , ur opinion cip :/

[inner jackal]

id rather have tighter team rating spread instead of shorter MM queue, id like to lose while knowing my team did the best it could , instead of losing while knowing i could have had better teammates

[cerulean sphinx]

i think rating is fine, the more skill you have the less battles it takes to get to a certain rating

[agile sphinx]

But then any half adequate player with more free time than you is rated better than you, so when you get into high average rating games you have to pray you don't have one of the battle spammers in your team so it's a 6v7...

[rose path]

lol just do what happens in those skill events where you're capped out at x number of battles, devs pls take note xdd

[cerulean sphinx]

lol if you're adequate you wont reach 5k, let alone 6k

[steady raptor]

This.

[agile sphinx]

A small sample (I think it was ~1k players?) of ratings players from Galabru a while back, and then blitzstars stats showing that plenty of adequate players make it to high ratings

[random galleon]

Can the rating MM be abused?

If not, then how is this possible?

[fallen mortar]

its called counting in and its 100% legit as long as you shoot the people click in with when they are in the enemy team

[agile adder]

Lmao that's funny💀

[random galleon]

I tried it with my frnd, you know what happened? We got MM'd against each other. For consecutive 3 games. Then i pressed ALT+F4.

[fallen mortar]

well thats also how it can go

[ornate spoke]

yeah and then you still have to kill your friend
which personally i find a lot of fun

[safe obsidian]

can confirm, nothing is more fun than killing a friend and then bming them after the game

[kindred bolt]

==WELL HI

[kindred bolt]

like it?

[silent scaffold]

anyone T110E4 and FV4202 with diamond camo?

[rose path]

Jesus last I looked that wr was above 70%

[remote flint]

i have a Question, i grind ratings reached platinum. and i tried to grind with other tanks, now im back gold. so in the end, do i still get the platinum camo for my tank. or i should be platinum back??

[sharp path]

Back to platinum,otherwise u dont get camo

[random galleon]

First time?

[rough root]

hey

[hybrid yoke]

What if raiting battles have pc platoon

[cursive lance]

You cant play rating in a Platoon

[hybrid yoke]

What if ..?

[cursive lance]

In my opinion it Would be bad because a platoon always has a big influence on the battle…

[ornate spoke]

What you mean with PC platoon?
Only PC players be able to toon?

[glossy bramble]

planoon in ratings nahhhh not balanced

[marsh wharf]

It's already happened i believe

[remote spindle]

Like, only pc players? Why?

[compact oriole]

@marsh wharf yep. Wg removed the ability to toon in rating

[half gull]

Question for ratings players, what’s the primary meta in ratings? Back when the is6 was the prize Emil spam was the meta. Is it still the case?

[cerulean sphinx]

I spam emil haha

[indigo jungle]

rating battles are useless lol

[next gull]

Primary meta in rating are :

• heavies
• premium
• grinding and tank testing

[grand dust]

The rating battles are verry hard. When you win battles you earn less places and when you losse battles you earn more places.🇷🇴

[inner jackal]

Get good lol

[warped rain]

True true

[safe obsidian]

Yoh

[fallen mortar]

may i present to you the biggest ratings spammer
if you got someone with more i would love to see it

[vague canyon]

😂

[autumn whale]

Where you at people that claim spamming gets you to 5k

[primal scroll]

it does if you're somewhat competent
which this person is not

[agile sphinx]

And they still managed to go up 700 points even if they only get 1 clip in per game

[marsh wharf]

i mean, how he still on gold? kekw

[ornate spoke]

holy, i dont do that amount of battles in 3 months

[grim osprey]

https://youtu.be/FL5PWe0AObw

[brave pelican]

NA matchmaking.........

[open topaz]

Bwoah, my record is only 10 mins lol

[brave pelican]

I have wait 1 hour for at the end give up 😦

[grim osprey]

fix ur queues @ornate spoke already over an hour

https://i.postimg.cc/XJM9F1DV/image.png

[half gull]

Thx y’all

[versed valley]

Why in the hell would you wait? Like do you have that much time on your hands? You coulda just joined again and it work or play a different game mode

[grim osprey]

1. to win lorraine fearless 2. to win tourney coins 3. to earn avatars 4. to complete daily missions

[ornate spoke]

im probably the only person that never waited more than 20s in a queue, somehow I always find a match even when I'm with 5k+ points

[half gull]

I think it’s cuz EU is really active in ratings, more than NA and ASIA

[ornate spoke]

nah some people on EU has the same problem

[grim osprey]

yea that

[agile adder]

What do u expect them to do about that

[brave pelican]

only tier 10 should be available in rating

[safe obsidian]

Eu has more players than NA

[ornate spoke]

welp that must be the thing then

[grim osprey]

they can fix the actual rating alogrithm

[obtuse thistle]

Lol you pinged a random user called wargaming