rating-battles

[desert valley]

I mean they still gotta go thru calibration before they get put in bronze...

[slender kelp]

thank you wg for letting every 30% kid play rating

[regal cosmos]

Oof

[true ridge]

They decided to nerf you

[timid schooner]

cry more

[slender kelp]

yes I played all day for only 50+

[keen moon]

ToxiC_#0001 has been warned.

[honest dust]

So? Do you think you have the right to earn more points?

[slender kelp]

ofc but playing with noobs all day

[honest dust]

Well, some days are good, some are Not. Also, you are already at 6k. How many more points Do you want? Leave some for us 😄

[slender kelp]

at least to be the fifth

[keen moon]

ToxiC_#0001 has been warned.

[marble timber]

Ah ok

[keen moon]

Eyyüp_Can2163#8227 was muted

[main bramble]

Make rating battles Tier X only.

[marble timber]

Why tho? It would be pointless, we would get less camos, less tanks to play, and less choices to grind points. Noobs will be there too, since getting a tier X is too easy, a noob can get a tier x in a few months... (Depending how much he/she plays)

[desert valley]

I’m out of tears. Now what

[main bramble]

Tier X is the most balanced Tier and everyone will be on the same playing field which will make rating more competitive. Most Diamond league players I saw got to Diamond league by spamming Tier 8 metas.

[marble timber]

Then if you want to play on the balanced field, go ahead and play tier x onl,... But for some of us who would like to get camos, or grind credits during ratings, it wouldnt be a good option to play X

[sonic sedge]

Message for developers= Ratings battles mode is broken & needs fixing urgently! Thanks

[ornate spoke]

@daring torrent English only

[late mural]

Translation: stevo is so bad he can't even get into platinum

Try to camp harder, boi.

[sonic sedge]

Not a ratings battle but you wanna try playing with random packet & ping loss because war gaming have put an event on ! Not even going to try a ratings battle with their servers not being able to handle the capacity!

[oblique sentinel]

I have some suggestions guys and need your opinion on it
1- make rating battles only Tech tree tanks
2- only players have +5K battles play rating or 48%WR
3- add more missions on rating battle .

[sonic sedge]

@oblique sentinel I’ve mentioned about minimum 5k battles before, adding more missions will only add more players trying to complete missions but not necessarily for the enrichment of this mode. Nothing gets done whatever anyone suggests 🤷‍♀️

[marble timber]

48% only because you are little bit over 48%? :D jokes aside, 5k battles and the tech tree makes sense, but if there were only tech trees then no cred grind

[fathom panther]

5k battles should be a must make it even 7.5 it will be even better, but that won’t keep you from getting players who have 45k battles and 35%

[jagged violet]

TBH, my only problem with rating battles is the premium/collector tanks.
The teams are the teams, it is what it is.

[honest dust]

Thank you wargaming. Next time i will make Sure to Do 5k damage and hope i dont Lose points if my teammates die after 30 seconds and we Lose the Match.
Can you please overwork the point System? If i get 2 or 3 teammates with 1.5-1.9k rating points, how am i supposed to carry the team?

[lime sparrow]

You play better ez

[crisp hornet]

Play well

[covert wind]

Idk what u mean ratings is ez to carry

[honest dust]

Well if you Look at the team damage in the last picture you See its completely the mirror of what my team did. So the Situation is Not really comparable. Im Sure i didnt play that to the Best, however i should also Not be punished when i Do 40% of the team damage and we Lose.

[regal cosmos]

The last pic above already shows someone getting points from a loss. You just need to play well enough. I guess damage isn’t all you need for that, but rather other bits too

[honest dust]

I know that. Like i said, i didnt play perfectly, we could have easily won, but me alone Not like i Played it (one less muppet and we win landslide style). I know XP are a better proxy for points, Not damage alone. However it was Not like i sniped from the back, i was pretty much in the Center, i captured bases etc. I have had losses where i gained points as well. Still, i think its Not fair to punish a Player if He does 40 or maybe 50% of the team damage. I know i can play better and i will improve, still i think there should be a "safety net" for players in These Situations where you simply cannot carry a Sure loss to only an almost Sure loss

[ornate spoke]

rating is a pain to play rn...i just gave up...my team has always under 45%WR and then enemy has always over 50%...no joke...and my rating rn is 3.8k...also in rating there are soo many ppl with military honor like 3 stars or smth...i dont understand, why bad players play rating...

[serene crystal]

Rating is where u rlly need to carry

[late mural]

Bad players like to play as they get carried into a 50% WR.

Ratings needs much better incentives for good players. And I mean gold.

[covert wind]

Tbh you shouldn't be allowed into rating with less then 3 stars

[serene crystal]

I had game where I have to do 4k-5k in a tier 7/8 game. It’s not the fat 7k carry game in tier 8 but it’s stil a lot for a “skill base” matchmaking (considering I’m platinum) Yes it is team dependent but to be one of thoes ppl in high plat or diamond you rlly need to carry and have high average dmg. Which is where the whole idea of “skill” come in. The only thing I have against this is some game I’ll be the only plat player snd 3 bronze where the other team have 3 plat player no bronze 1 person who almost plat. Even In term of rating that was completely unfair. As a result rating game end in 7:0/7:1 a lot of time. From that I’ve notice

Also career winrate doesn’t define a player skill. Someone could have a 45% winrate but have a 75% winrate and 4000wn8 for 30days (no one rn but I’m just saying) I’ve seen 48%ner in platinum being more reliable than a 52%ner. Also without nub, you would lose more game then if there’s nub as well. (As ur always against other good player and one team will always have better player, assuming ur not the best). I just think the match making system make a lot of mistake as there’s game where one team have 4.5k average rating while the other team have less than 4k

[grizzled heath]

Got 0 rating boys

[unborn crater]

Wp

[lime sparrow]

Les gooo

[zinc ravine]

Congrats

[woeful iron]

Hi

[agile sphinx]

There's generally a large rating difference between teams when there are calibrating players as they have a preliminary rating used in the matchmaking but not displayed or counted in the average rating of the teams. Career WR is also a basic and easy way to say roughly how good a player is. It's not perfect but it's pretty good. Landslides happen more often in ratings because of the nature of ratings. You have better players who can work together to exploit a small advantage more, so small things like one tank dying have much larger impacts on battle outcome that in random battles.

[serene crystal]

Ya I don’t get that sometime w the player calibrating as well... like I had a game where my team was full of calibration so the rating average was 4k (me and another guy, I was at 4.5k and he’s at 3.4k) but then we gave a team with everyone who’s already in a ledge and that also result in an unfair matcch as our calibrating player isn’t very good (compare to their team of ppl around 3.4-4.5 as well). I feel like wg needa give more reward or something to get more ppl into rating and reduce game like these

[lime sparrow]

Better credit coefficients 😏

[honest dust]

I think removing credits and combat XP would fix some of the issues. I would rather play for tokens or seasonal coins that i can exchange for cosmetics (like Marks of excellence 👉👈🥺😄). The credits and combat XP just allows Bad players to Grind new tanks and credits without paying attention to WR. Gold as rewards would flood ratings with everyone

[serene crystal]

I mean... we are playing to get stuff like the avatar and camo as well but like, having rsting flooded with people could probably have all the low rank play w other low rank. And possibly more good player join so that there’s more good player vs good player game as well. Idk that’s just a thought

[honest dust]

You are right. Havent thought about it from this perspective. Especially today its been really Bad imho, i get Matched with at least 2-3 under 2.5k players ever Match, im now at 4.25, have Been able to improve 100 points, even if my winrate today is 45%.... And then its a coin toss who wins. Maybe more players would be better. Still, i think being able to Grind tanks (what i also have done with underpowered ones, why wouldnt you...) is Not a good Thing. If more players would mean a more accurate matchmaking in terms or points, then Yeah. But also, i think the Avatars are a step in the right direction, but Not really exciting enough. And a Gold League Camo is missing as well. With seasonal coins, you could simply give them out and if you have enough accumulated, you can buy a Camo.

[serene crystal]

I feel like the thing abt coin and why ppl want them... is tank... is-6 doesn’t budge anyone cuz some ppl know it’s not worth it to get top 10 cuz they know they’re not Goood enough. But ya what if there was a coin system where u could earn and trade for tanks. But the only issue there is that rating team will just be ur regular “event team” and that get really bad

[regal cosmos]

i wouldn’t want to just remove the credits from ratings. It’s discouraging to play ratings so often if you can’t maintain credits. You’d have to go play other modes to grind credits just to be able to play ratings, and then you’d pretty much be at the same amt of credits for a while. I can agree with the XP being removed but rn it’s better to have more reasons to play ratings, until they can get enough players to go on without the xp earnings. If they remove XP earnings, maybe they can have some sort of currency for ratings, so you play more of it and then buy something in the store, like with tournament season coins.

[sonic sedge]

@neat wind I hope you’re reading the chat & getting the developers to take notice as something needs to be done about this mode!
Sorry for the ping but where are the mods. input when you actually NEED it. Cheers 🍻

[neat wind]

my job, along with the other mods, is to mod the server and keep the bad stuff out. other than that, we're just players. we don't have WG's ear for stuff besides that

[serene crystal]

Does wg look at this channel? Cuz there was a lot of thing being discuss along with possible solution

[sonic sedge]

Ok, thanks Frostbite. Have a good evening.

[zealous orchid]

HOW IS POSIBLE Play with gay 1800 points any1 can explain??

[placid shard]

that's nothing

[fervent swan]

It is possible to see people below 1k

[regal cosmos]

The queues aren’t big enough to keep you from seeing low rating players

[floral dock]

10/10 team. Maybe try not spamming an OP premium tank for better teams 😉

[serene crystal]

The thing is... I didn’t want to at first but after 4.5k rating I relieze I need something that can frontline so I’ve been playing that and is-4 because that’s the only “super heavy” I have

The thing is... before 4.5k I was playing less OP tank like t26e5, t62a, t-54 lwt, isu 152. By all means thoes stil are good tank but it’s not OP. But after I relieze that I have to make pushes by my self sometime cuz the team like to sit and camp or be very passive. That’s why I’ve been using more aggressive tank

[floral dock]

Personally I feel that I can play any tank class up to around 5300 before I need to switch to maining an e5 or is4

[serene crystal]

The thing is im not the best player :/, I feel like I don’t put myself on farming situation enough or being too aggro at time. But when I keep playing other tank it start to keep me at 4.5 so that’s why I switch

[gritty wolf]

about the avatars the epic and leg ones you can make the silver gold blue purple etc colors appear more as they go along. like for the mad games avatar just a suggestion

[ebon thicket]

plz make ratings for only 50% players and above.l

[regal cosmos]

Why not 70%?

[crisp hornet]

70% ez

[coral quest]

gl getting on the matchmaking

[honest dust]

Funny Thing is, i see 46% WR and under players with 4k or more points and 55%+ in Silver. Also, what are your Stats? Why make the cut off at 50%? Why Not 48 (average wr) or 55? If you exclude the "Bad" players the intervall will just shift and someone else will become the New Bad players. Congratz, you just made the matchmaking longer but didnt change a Thing otherwise 🤦‍♂️

[agile sphinx]

Make the cutoff to be just over the stats of whoever is complaining and wanting a cutoff and see how their opinion changes :)

[ebon thicket]

lol I find a lot more players with common sense above 50% winrate than below it. I don't care about your 1/1000 experience with a 46% performing decent for once. the fact of the matter is, ratings should only be for the competitive.

[honest dust]

And a 46% Player cannot be competitive?

[agile sphinx]

I find a lot more players with common sense above 60% than below it. I find a lot more players with common sense over 70% than below it.
Everyone is competitive at different levels, and everyone should be allowed to play ratings. You don't get to decide who is competitive or not because you are extremely biased and opinionated.

[ebon thicket]

okay so the competitive players can't have one game mode without being bombarded with players who play just because tAnK gO bRrrrr why shouldn't ratings only be for the competitive?? i dont understand???

[honest dust]

And a 46% Player cannot be competitive?
Also, that is Not a 1/1000 experience, i was Matched with a lot of Different levels yesterday. We lost Matches because 60%ers Played poorly. And then? You wanna exclude them as well? Even though i had this opinion as well until... Well couple of days ago, excluding players cannot be the solution. First of All, ratings is a game Mode that should be open to everyone. Otherwise whats next, exclude under 50%ers from fun modes as an inventive to become better? Secondly, the more you restrict the base the worse the Matching becomes. When you exclude all under 50%, you will still be Matched with much lower rated players. And then? You only narrowed the base, made the MM take longer and Still have the same Problem as before. So, since it would be unfair to simply exclude players "who just want to play" (whatever that means, why do you play if its Not just to play?) the solution could be to get more players into rating battles to give the Matchmaker a broader base and Match teams more accurately.
HOWEVER: i think all my words Here will Not change your opinion at all since you strike me like a try Hard ignorant dude who has never tried to see the point from a Different side than his own.

Edit: why does no one ever talk about excluding over 50% players? That could be fun 😂

Edit: @Colin#9978 i did. Sadly i would need to exclude myself then 😂 (how does my tagging Not work... 😐

[agile sphinx]

Who is a competitive player? It's you. It's me. It's the 40%er trying his best. It's the pro trying his best. It's everyone that wants to be. You are trying to make ratings competitive around you and I'm very sorry to have to tell you this but other people exist as well.

@honest dust The best thing is to find their blitzstars and then say "Nah I see bots up to [their WR+1%] so exclude people up to there" and watch them suddenly stop in their tracks

[ebon thicket]

ok. welll I don't like 46% players rushing in to die and losing the battle 👍

because 9/10 its the low winrate players throwing the game

[agile sphinx]

40%ers are low wr compared to 50%ers. 50%ers are low wr compared to 60%ers. 60%ers are low wr compared to 70%ers etc etc.

You not being able to work with your team is not your team's fault. You not being able to carry games where you are supposedly better than everyone else, is not the team's fault.

[honest dust]

I have seen 60%+ WR players rush in and do 0 damage. Or Camp in an e100. What would you Do about that?

[ebon thicket]

no. the low winrate clown sitting at the back of the map doing absolutely nothing is to blame. the clown rushing in on a light tank thinking hes invincible is to blame. statistics are a reflection of your gameplay. bad statistics=bad gameplay, and personally I don't think bad gameplay belongs in ratings. regardless we both know where we stand on this, so I'm not going to continue any further

[honest dust]

Wanna know the true reason why you dont want to continue? Bc you are unable to adjust your opinion just a little bit. To accept that there are other definitions of competitive out there. You realize you Lose this Argument. THAT is why you wont continue. However, i dont demand people like you Being excluded from the Server just because you are Bad at discussing, right? There are a lot of valid sides to the whole topic, you have valid points, Sure, but ours kinda negate yours. And still you are entitled to your opinion. Just as players out there who "just play to play" are entitled to play rating battles. Also, you didnt say anything about players with good Stats playing poorly. How would you handle that? Why do players with Bad Stats need to proove themselves to you, but if a Player with good Stats plays poorly, its okay? Why dont you carry Bad players when you are so much better? Also, given the law of large numbers, every Team has the same amount of Bad players. Why can the enemy Team carry their noobs, but you cannot carry yours?

[ebon thicket]

ok. you win the arguement, I applaud you, you have the discussion skills of a true intellectual. but it doesn't change my opinion, bad players shouldn't be in ratings 👍

[honest dust]

Well, its kinda boring to discuss Things after a certain stage. As an Academic im educated to abstract from Problems and negate the opposing side.
However you should defo try to see aspects of other people or to see a Problem from their side. Also, changing your opinion is Not a Bad Thing. You can admit that you were wrong and no one will KV-2 you for it.

[ebon thicket]

you are a master of your craft

[honest dust]

Thank you 🙂

[still carbon]

Yeah I don’t like this idea. I have 30,000 battles and am at 48% overall. I never took win rate serious until 20 days ago. My 30 day stats Are 52% with a 1700 Wn8. By your rules I wouldn’t be able to play. I have the best rating on our team at 3700 (no I’m not playing the Anni or smasher. Hate those tanks) I’m 31st on my team in win percentage. That is why I disagree

[agile sphinx]

Play tier 10 -> never bottom tier 🤔

[honest dust]

mind. Blown

[serene crystal]

Late to the arguement but I remember talking about this yesterday. 1. Everyone have a bad game, a 60% with 4k battle can die first in a battle. I’m at 4.7k rating and having a 59.75% winrate, so in ur definition I’m not a nub. But I had game where I made poor decision and cause my team losing, in that game someone like you will rage and be like “why is bot like you playing this game mode”. What I find from rating isn’t whether or not ur team is good (that matter) but is how hard You can try and carried. If u yet high dmg as a lost, you can go up, not move, or go down just a little bit (like 2-10 point) then you’ll just carry the next win and go up 30 or sum (I find that I usually go up around 35-39 each win, but I normally average 2.7k on thoes win) if u look at that you can increase. If it’s tea dependent the ppl that is always in diamond wouldn’t be in diamond all the time cuz they can’t just make MM give them good team. Also bad player made up the game, without nub, all of ur hood game wouldn’t be a good game

Instead of blaming the team rewarch replay and see what you could had done better, or ask a super uni to analyze it for you or sum. Team suck but a lot time theres thing you could do. For example, I remember I had this game game I was in a 1v4 situation in rating at the end and stil end up clutching it with over5k dmg at tier 8

[regal cosmos]

Well said

[quartz badge]

How many victories in a league do you have to do to get to each stage of the new 3 avatars ?

[glossy raptor]

#game-news and scroll up a little

[quartz badge]

Ah I missed that, thank you !

[quick tundra]

Thank you WG for helping new players achieving new heights! Seriously, you guys are the best! Good job!

[regal cosmos]

Im confused why youre trying to tell WG that a new player isnt playing well

[covert wind]

Hes triggerd that some ppl have fun in this game while he thinks its some kind of "job" he has to do lmao

[quick tundra]

This is ratings battle discussion. So I'm sharing my experience and its not just one player having fun, its a recurring and good % of the player base. Just like you 2 have the right to flap your pie hole, I too can discuss with WG, who actually can do something to fix matchmaking or the game. And its not my job but my choice to tell them. Like its not your job to be a smart**s and taunt others but you just do it.

[covert wind]

Maybe if your a good player u could carry him

[lime sparrow]

There’s only so much a good player can do.

[old ivy]

For those players that tryhard in ratings you really have nothing better to do with yourselfs, im 4000+ wn8 player and i find ratings complete joke and just find it as a way try new stuff, there is absolute no reason to care about ratings as there really isn't any good rewards besides parts for is6 fearless unless im wrong. Just enjoy playing it and i cant with those players that they tell people what to do

[shadow basalt]

I grind tanks in ratings :p

[snow surge]

Everyone's a clean, judgemental professional here aren't they

[ornate spoke]

I play with retards its normall but i did with trash mm 4 500 points its possible but u must be litlle bit tryharder

[outer spruce]

How? When I grind tanks, they're below 100% crew, so can't enter ratings. So probably worst place to grind if you think about it

[regal cosmos]

Its good for when you only need to grind xp for the next tank

[shadow basalt]

Well after the stock grind and crew grind I go to ratings to not ruin my stats anymore lol

[next gull]

So you aren't confident enough to play at the level you think you are entitled to in regular battles with a fully kitted tank ?

[regal cosmos]

They play the same tank in terms of stats whether they do it in regular battles or in ratings. Theres no point being given bonus xp if you already have a maxed tank. Elite xp is super easy to gather if you own any maxed out tank you enjoy playing, or any premium/collector tank

[paper jacinth]

Just came across a player in my tier 10 ratings game with 545 rating points (I have 4500). He/She had a wr in the 30's and 250 av dmg or so. From WG website: "the matchmaker will take your skill level into account and automatically find worthy opponents with a similar rating to yours". Sure, Sunday afternoon there are enough ppl playing ratings so the MM does not have to pair me with such player. Any plan to work on ratings MM and point system dudes? As I see it avatars wont attract non-rating players to play it.

the more players there are at a given time playing ratings, the more different the rating of the players, thanks WG.

[paper jacinth]

same player again, he is now at 549, stayed in spawn and didnt move while we all flanked, untill reds got to him and kill him , ending his 0 shots and 0 dmg game. He spammed 'help' tho.

is it allowed to show the player's career or ratings stats here? its quite remarcable really

[shadow basalt]

Whatever you do don’t show mine. I’m a nub, biggest nub in NA lol

[ornate spoke]

If everyone hates noob players in rating battles, why don’t we just ask WG to put skilled matchmaking? For example a 50% fights a 49. 88 or a 50 % too?

[half badge]

that will bring everyone to 50% eventually

[paper jacinth]

In ratings WG advertises you play with and against players with a similar rating. Randoms is random. Ratings is too. Also they don't do enough against ppl that play bad purposely on either game mode.

[dusty kelp]

Anni toon today in ratings who drove directly in to harbour on port bay and died ofc...ratings seem fine....lol

[half badge]

who's gonna tell him that you can't toon in ratings

[lime sparrow]

Ahahahhhaa sheeeesh

[shut kettle]

yes i hate it when platoons in ratings do that 😶

[ionic flower]

Im stuck at 4.7k rating... I played 300 battles and I cant do the 5k... Just why? Btw I'm always did the 2k avg dmg or more. I played with E50M and obj 252..

[azure shard]

Play T95 <3 and win

[floral flare]

gets encircled What now

[lime sparrow]

2k average damage isn’t that good

[ornate spoke]

If u are real pro players play sta1 in ratings so stop joking of others and try it

[lime sparrow]

Broken English much

[zinc ravine]

If we are pro players we are bound to have a better tank then the STA-1 so there will essentially be no point of playing it

[fathom panther]

Make it even 7.5 even better

[hazy bronze]

@ionic flower 2k is good normal but but wins more need at least more like 3k to 4.5k if want win majority of them battles.

[ionic flower]

@hazy bronze ik, 2k isn't that much. But I'm nearly every time was the top dmg with my shitty 2k, and that's the problem, cuz I got retards in my team...

[deft wadi]

hola quien habla aqui español?

[ionic flower]

Btw, I did 150 battles with 4.7k rating and I cant move from there.

[ornate spoke]

yes u are right but its challenge

[orchid yarrow]

You just to spam ratings and eventually you’ll get to diamond lol, saw a 48% WR in diamond with 2k battles that season.

[clever bridge]

I really hope the IS-6 will be buffed once again, because it's not a meta tank and as a 1 year (almost) F2P player, I'm not very skilled and I try harded the whole month to reach the 6k so it's really frustrating to get this meh tank.

[median zenith]

IS-6 is fine, use the DPM gun

[placid shard]

the IS-6 is a decent tank in the hands of good players. I personally dont have a problem with my fearless.

[clever bridge]

Yes it's decent, but all the efforts you have to do for get it is too much for this tank. I got the IS-6 in the weekly crate, so I know this tank and I love reverse sidescrap in but I mean in comparison, you have the Emil I easy to grind and way more powerful.

[clever bridge]

I don't like it, the pen is really ridiculous on it.

[regal cosmos]

It’s not great pen but that doesn’t mean it’s bad. There’s some sort of fun in having low pen and having to manage around that. The rest of the tank is nice too. The upper plate after the last buff can be rather bouncy, and the sides are good too. I guess you can say it’s balanced since it’s not too extreme in anything and has nice strengths and weaknesses. Buffing it will make it op.

[midnight lark]

Ok but for not that good players, the Dpm gun is just bad.

[alpine tiger]

pogger, now i wait for toxic ratings spammer camo 🙂

[clever bridge]

There are a lot of weak points, at least making a more solid turret like the IS-4 could be nice without make the tank OP. And the armor can make many bounces and is kinda troll, but not spectacular. I think IS-5 is more better and it's not op (and I won't talk about the op Obj lol)

[olive bolt]

Hi, How is the number of golden balls determined? Sometimes 2, sometimes none, sometimes 16 are given, after the war. I wonder what are the war factors that affect the increase in numbers. Thanks

[median zenith]

It's by the boosters you equip and the rarity

[clever bridge]

You win 2 by winning a game, and if you equip the boosters, you win more. It depends of the boosters used and their rarity.

[regal cosmos]

Not by winning. Just 200xp is enough

[alpine tiger]

just like carry harder

[slender kelp]

@alpine tiger here another one

[alpine tiger]

at least you ain't going down on points

[slender kelp]

yeah what about my nerves?

[alpine tiger]

Gone. Reduced to atoms.

[honest dust]

Well i just had 10 wins in a row. From 4.5k to 4.7k now. Some days are just better...i have to admit, some Matches the matchmaker gave us better tanks for certain flanks. But i also had Matches where i had 1.5k players. As long as you Tell them to Stick to the team it works (even if its painful sometimes and you have to sacrifice them... 😐)
Edit: and of course some Tanks are better. I honestly think picking a good Medium is better to deal with Bad teammates as relocating is much easier

[grizzled heath]

:D

[honest dust]

Is that your Account?

[native marten]

it's his account and i respect the dedication

[worldly anvil]

absolute madlad

[serene crystal]

Game like these... soo close to diamond too, team just zolo in, die, and blame the team

[serene crystal]

Did it 🙂

[brisk ridge]

explain to me why i am at 4,8k rating and i am getting a kid with 400 rating
arent you supposed to have better players on your team as you go up team rather than dogcrap

[serene crystal]

Cuz na doesn’t have enough player in the rating que so to prevent 10hour que they just match whatever

[dry crater]

they try to make it so the teams have about the same avg rating... so maybe thats why?

[daring loom]

Gg

[merry barn]

i dont play this mode because everyone spams OP tanks like chimera, action X, 252u, anni, smasher, etc.

[elfin burrow]

For some reason I don't find playing the 252U enjoyable to play even though it's OP. Balanced tanks like the Lycan are more interesting to play.

[merry barn]

thats true. After I get WT auf PZ IV and Emil 1 ill get Mauschen to bully OP tanks with super strong armor and make them rage hehehe or maybe ST-1 hulldown would be also nice

[regal cosmos]

WT is op now

[merry barn]

always has been

anyway i researched it not bc grind but i love playing rhm

[hollow oasis]

I love playing Su-130PM for snipe annihilator and smasher... i wish them end like sheridan missile. Only fun game mods. Because playing smasher and annihilator is not about how good you are but how much tanks come at you for farming dmg

[daring loom]

They’re pretty easily counterable

[hollow oasis]

i love focusing them.. so much times they are toxic and my chat in garage is spamed by them... but i allways block them and play another game

[vale fable]

Rating is cringe ez

[merry barn]

if u use op tanks yes

[hollow oasis]

Smasher, annihilator, Emil I, K91, kran and VK-90-01-P... about this tanks i think they are "little bit" broken

[merry barn]

yeah, but Emil 1 turret could be penned by AP, yes you hear correctly, AP of AMX AC 48

[hollow oasis]

or AP of ISU 😄

[gilded edge]

this costs a lot of credits to achieve haha

[ornate spoke]

bro only synf could do that, what a gaymer.

i wanted to make a new account and do that myself but synf already did so no point anymore

[nimble rapids]

again u spamming annihilator, bruh

[rose path]

Gutted to find out account creation ratings wins arent counted, avatar for Fearless owners WG? 👉👈

[olive bolt]

Heyoo! Burning mod is coming. My favorite battle type along with the realistic mode

[zinc ravine]

Fearless background when lol

[hollow oasis]

they said new game mode coming soon and ping from 30 to 400... thank you WG.. you have nice servers

[rose path]

@zinc ravine Yeeeeeah, really disappointed that I've no choice but to suffer ranked again if I want avatar

[paper jacinth]

Sure, same level of rating .... even 4000 different rating points between me and another guy in one game ... thxs WG! Oh slow mode.... wait for the screenshots!

As promised...

[regal cosmos]

How can they consistently find you similar players when there arent enough?

[paper jacinth]

I didnt say they should. Wg said they would. 👍

[delicate lodge]

Similar rating is meant at team level @paper jacinth here both teams are matched up at 2.8k which means both teams are crap which is still better than in random where your team only might be crap.
Not perfect but I guess they done it to limit queuing time

[paper jacinth]

I know thats how it works @delicate lodge , thanks. However thats not how WG says it works. Thats my point.

[delicate lodge]

Ok poor webmaster performance. Ratings description were not updated since the mode introduction where I believe ratings limitations in terms of maximum gap existed in the first place (platooning was also allowed and u couldn’t toon with someone below your rating)

At the end u manage to still win 6 rating points as you can easily farm low rating players and queuing time are quite good.

What annoys me more is the fact that some players are farming rating at tier 8 and then somehow pollute t10 with undeserved high ratings.
Would be good to have only t10 as before.

[paper jacinth]

I agree on making ratings only T10, but Im afraid it won't happen. It just annoys me that WG claims to want to make ratings more relevant, yet when players don't want to play them, the only thing they offer is an outdated T8 premium for the very best players and avatars (!!!). If it was me, I would offer a long term reward for, say, a year of ratings. And not only for the very best players. Like a tier 7 premium for a year of finishing every rating's month in gold, a tier 8 for a year in platinum, and a tier 9 for a year on diamond. Add some min battles number, like 200/month? Right now lots of players try ratings, see another effed up MM, and walk away.

[copper mauve]

remember when rating was tier 8 only for like a few seasons?

[midnight lark]

Was it meh or quite good?

[graceful arrow]

This is soo unfair.

[midnight lark]

I dont see the problem..

[forest terrace]

everything is pretty consistent except for the rating points?

[rose path]

lol, if WG screws up the next line it'll be Emil1 spam all over again with 22+ avg points per win in diamond

[ornate shale]

The problem is the chimera is broken

[covert wind]

Good joke buddy

[ornate shale]

Look up the performance statistics of the tank and tell me again it isn’t broken.

[covert wind]

The chimera is just a good med that gets played allot by decent players. Just bc a tank has high overall Winrate dosnt mean its broken. It has a solid turret but bad hullarmour. The mobility is a mixed bag and the gun is a heavy hitter but has Shit dpm. As said its a very good med but not broke.

[peak parcel]

I find this very cringe

[clever bridge]

I think it's a bit OP but not broken

[true ridge]

I’m pretty sure OP is higher on the list than broken

In my view the list goes:

Game breaking
OP
Cracked/broken
Good
Meh
Garbage, absolute trash, a disgrace to this game and the name “tank”

[desert valley]

You forgot the final bottom tier - stock

[marble aspen]

when does ratings end? is it tomorrow or tonight

[hollow oasis]

this day at 24:00.. after that you cant play games... i want get to top 100 because i want this month finally get IS-6 fearless

[graceful arrow]

@midnight lark 12 points for that game is not enough I know it's harder to climb once your rating is high but if I'm getting 5/-6 for games I dealt +3k damage I should be getting more points for these games.

Chimera is a one of few tanks that noobs can do well that's why it's server stats are good.

[midnight lark]

I still don't see the problem...
That's the sence of being high rating.

[pallid tendon]

Here is how to fix ratings. Big issue is not the system but the amount of players who are in ratings to make sure the system works, these are a few changes I would make to ratings to bring more players. I also want to point out that people don't care about Avatars, including the new avatar systems system which will only temporarily increase the number of players in ratings but as a regular diamond league player I want to reiterate that this is not interesting whatsoever and will not be the reason I play ratings, however, the incentives below would be (number can be adjusted slightly):

(A) Every season there is 1 different t8 premium available (e.g M4 Revalorise for 7500 gold) during the ratings season for gold, Silver League players get 2.5% discount, Gold League players get 5% discount, Platinum league get 12.5% and Diamond league get 20% discount. The t8 premium being sold rotates so every season there is a new one

(B) In addition you would still receive the avatar, camo and fearless parts, but you also get these extra rewards every time you move into the next league:
Bronze League - nothing, you only get the reward when you move into the next league
Silver League - 25 standard xp, free xp and crew xp boosters + 250 000 credits
Gold League - 50 standard xp, free xp and crew xp boosters + 500 000 credits
Platinum League - 50 rare xp, free xp and crew xp boosters + 1 million credits
Diamond League - 50 epic xp, free xp and crew xp boosters + 2.5 million credits (Diamond is much much harder than Platinum so the difference in credits increases)

The discounts are a nice way for WG to make money through ratings and for players with money to earn themselves a discount on a premium vehicle they like while the league rewards are a great way to get f2p players more involved as the rewards are delivered immediately when moving up a league rather than at the end of a season and help with grinding tank lines.

[stuck vortex]

^^agreed 100%^^ pls wg do it ❤️

[keen moon]

Malek#1889 has been warned.

sweet_home#8367 has been warned.

[hollow oasis]

if this WG do... i will again start playing rating battles...

but about it we can only dream.... F2P events for good tanks are already dead... containers where normal players cant get anythyng.. but new or absolute P2W players can get any tank... (im still founding players what have nice premium/colector X but dont have more than V tank from tech tree...)... in rating battles can diamond player meet with silver player...

[winged orchid]

**I finished it bois

Never again**

To Bronze and Back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYWdgBtSM8s

[hollow oasis]

legends never die : D

[turbid pond]

This must be a joke, how do I earn 1 point for this?

[glossy raptor]

Low average rating in both teams. Then you earn/lose less

[turbid pond]

Still cmon 1 single point for a carry like this, it shouldn’t be based on if you win or not, it should be about your place in the team..

[regal cosmos]

And you also earn less when you already have a higher rating, as well as losing less

Wg already said that they want ratings to be more about wins than just focusing on damage and xp

[paper jacinth]

Sucks dude. I know the feeling since last Jan I had a 6.7k dmg loss, and I got zero points.

[late mural]

@pallid tendon Well-written thoughts.

A) Those discounts are way too small, would need to be at least 50% to be interesting. Remember that WG is selling tanks at big discounts all the time. Also, the prize tank would need to be very rare or completely new to be interesting for veterans.

B) Credits, XP etc are pretty meaningless for veteran players. Just give some gold for reaching Diamond League.

[regal cosmos]

50% is quite high

[fathom panther]

Answer me, what’s more broken anihilator or chimera, it was a joke chimera is not broken. Tell me how chimera is broken

[hollow oasis]

both... both are broken

[wild quiver]

Does rating season end today?

[ornate spoke]

WOW

[pallid tendon]

If they sold a Progetto 46 (most players who dont have it woulf want to buy) for 7k gold the 20% discount would bring it down to 5600 whkch I think is the most WG would give us realistically.

I do agree 50% discounts would be nice but WG would never give that to us, at most a 30-35% discount would realistically be passable.

A tank for 7k gold with a 30% discount would then cost 4900 gold, thats a 2.1k (+/- 10 euro) discount. Also the point is they would sell good prwmiums like Progetto 46, Caernarvon AX and M4 Revalorise not crappy tech tree premiums so I think 20% is somewhat fair. Ofc this comes down to opinion and wallet size tho xD thnx for sughestion tho, will keep in mind when I pitch this in the future

[slender kelp]

💪

[slender kelp]

burning games ruint rating battles. it takes so long to get into battle. has wg a problem letting us get to top five? 🤔

[forest terrace]

how is this possible that the top player got plus 6 only and the med player got higher rating score?

[slender kelp]

Im over 6k thats why

[glossy raptor]

Beacuse he has more than double the rating and the higher rating you got the less points you gain

[forest terrace]

thanks, that got me confused

[turbid pond]

Gold has been decreasing in its worth way too much, lowering the prices would make the effect even bigger. Anyone who spends money on gold takes a fat L

[zinc ravine]

Maybe they will make a new currency in game like bonds

[ornate spoke]

Chimera is not even op, never mind broken

[flat basalt]

now i can rest in peace 😂

[wild quiver]

I cant im 5th and too lazy for securing my spot

[hollow oasis]

i wanted get to top 100.. but so much losts in row... 7:0...7:1... thanks wg... very nice MM... Diamond player just must meet player what is in silver league

[livid estuary]

Alhamdulillah

[wild quiver]

How long it will take to get rewards ?

[storm tendon]

Jeezes, well done

[livid estuary]

thanks bro

[livid estuary]

17 days 1175 battls

[wild quiver]

well my gf left me so i dont have life and did the same

[livid estuary]

try next month. I hope you will 1

[wild quiver]

Nahh i wont have time or motivation i tried only once cause i didnt have IS-6 fearless in my collection and well now i do

[noble wedge]

But why? You already have the tank my man.......

[livid estuary]

Yes there is 7 tank is 6 fearless. this is my life

[lone thistle]

Oh yes 🤣

[midnight lark]

Well lol

[primal urchin]

You honestly deserve an award lmao

[ornate shale]

This guy is the true ratings champion

[wild quiver]

Next season im playing diamond camos for SP I C and M48 patton cause of memes💀

[lone thistle]

Nice, SP is a fun tank, I got diamond camo for it a couple seasons ago
I’m thinking next I’ll try get diamond on STA-1 😂

[cobalt quarry]

where do i see the wiz camo ?

nvm, found it

[slender kelp]

good job. I wanted to be in the top five but losing to many times. I got 7 now though I was 6. it takes to much time like full time job

[wooden elbow]

Where do I find my rating camo? It’s not in my certificates or camos but it said I got it 🤷🏼‍♂️ anyone know?

[livid estuary]

👍👍👍

[glossy raptor]

On the tank that you got it to. Go to the tanks camos and youll find it

[gilded edge]

dude you get Fearless every month? 👀

[ornate spoke]

......i go 3 times 4.800 yesterday. And i finished 4.980

[wild quiver]

Mhh guys when do i get fearless cause i already got other rewards

[glossy raptor]

A few days

[white spruce]

Beautiful
@wild quiver it takes like 2-3 days

[livid estuary]

Yes bro. I have 7 is 6 fearless😀

[ornate spoke]

Bruhh

Yifjtfutdyhkryfydyifi yft

[small sedge]

ok

[tough breach]

IMO it's so beautiful...

[dense rose]

@marble timber how do you get this camouflage?

[marble timber]

Rating, 5k

[dense rose]

Okay thanks

[wheat gull]

I like the purple and yellow one more but this camo is nice too

[tough breach]

IMO this one looks better, but the fact that they removed the old 4K camo, brought down the 5K camo to be the 4K one and the addition of the new 5K camo is great overall

[keen moon]

YouTube___Liana___ASTRA (Liana)#5892 has been warned.

[rose path]

You are literally on the top of the list every time I run my python ratings tool lmao, how do you even have time to grind that much battles per month or is it down to just lockdown/quarantine?

[livid estuary]

time is not much. when I have free time I play. still quarantine as you said

[plush ravine]

gg mate first again lol and i get my is6 but i didnt had time to farm F :/

[livid estuary]

I wish you all good luck and you💪💪💪

[plush ravine]

your literally a monster ( cause ur russian lmao) its all benef for u as u won 5k/2k idk golds per month for free lol

[livid estuary]

gold is not important to me. I have more than 200 k gold and there is a 426 tank in the hangar. I love games

[plush ravine]

damnit me too owo

[olive bolt]

Hi, since last night, earning a gold prize by watching commercials hasn't been working! Both Russia and Europe server

[livid estuary]

there are a lot of problems with the server right now

[ruby rune]

If you were to grind ratings at tier VIII what tanks would you use? Progetto/252u?

[lunar parcel]

Ricochet angle is sooo broken i fought 3 tanks and none of them did damage in the 2nd match i fought another 3 tanks and won if you don't know Ricochet angle you should learn it

[livid estuary]

better for me playing with emil and 252

[noble wedge]

Same, emil spam

[real galleon]

how many credits do you have? @livid estuary

[livid estuary]

421 000 000

[warm nexus]

i was expecting cooler ratings avatars not like this

[ornate spoke]

Can the devs restrict players from using prem vehicles in ratings and only let tech tree tanks be used, because u can climb the leagues effectively when every dude is using the most op prem tank to win matches effieciently with these op premiums and they outclass most of the tech tree tanks for example the progetto 46 is a much better tank to play rather than the panterra in ranked because of its good gun and armor

[patent pier]

Brilliant idea. Imagine you buy a premium tank and get banned for playing it.

[hybrid mural]

I just read that now we need more certificates to get the IS-6 Fearless. How much is it and how do I get it?

[limber ermine]

100 parts and you get more parts the higher you are. If you reach 5k you get 5 parts and if your like top 20 or 30 you get more

[livid estuary]

you need to play a rating battle. and you need to collect coins for is 6 fearless. what would get is 6; you need 100 coins. to collect 100 coins you need top 5. or every month you need more than 5 to raise your rating.

[hybrid mural]

@limber ermine @livid estuary I reached 5k for the first time this season that just ended. Fighting MM was tough! It seems it will take me forever then to get the Fearless 😛

[limber ermine]

Ye, Rn I’ve only got 10 parts so If it keeps going on two month based, it’s gonna take me like three years XD

[livid estuary]

if you raise more than 5 to, every month you will receive 10 coins. to get the tank is 6 ... you will need 10 months

[hybrid mural]

yeah, but like @limber ermine , now it's 2 months. Unless if WG made that if you mantain 5k for over 1month it counts twice

[limber ermine]

Oh damn, so the is-6 fearless is off coins?

[livid estuary]

if 2 months for you need top 10

[white spruce]

@livid estuary wdym... presumably the system still works the same way?

From what I understand the higher rating you get above 5k the more parts you get until you have 100, where you can make the tank.
But this season you earn Coins in battles.

Is that correct?

[noble wedge]

Ribble, how many certificates do i need to get IS6 fearless now??

[hybrid mural]

But do you need to keep climbing up the ranks to keep earning? How does it work?

[livid estuary]

if you collect coins in battle! for this coin you can buy an avatar or something else. not a tank. for the tank to receive, you must enter the top 5 or more than 5 to raise the rating ever months

[white spruce]

so the coins buy stuff in the shop but not the fearless.
To get fearless parts you have to come in top 5 players of the season? Or what @livid estuary

[noble wedge]

isnt it top 10 bcz the season lasts 2 months?

[livid estuary]

Yes, you have to go to the top 5 and get 100 coins at once, or you will get more than 5 to 10 coins every month.

[hybrid mural]

omg... WG should've just say how it is

[white spruce]

Ok so they’re not actually changing anything

[oblique sentinel]

It is a try harder guys?????

[noble wedge]

40 coins is max if not top 5

[hybrid mural]

you mean... this mode is for try harders? Absolutely yes! Otherwise youre just screwing everybody else

[livid estuary]

April 5 to May 31 and rating 2 months

[noble wedge]

100 parts needed for the tank right

[zinc ravine]

Yep

[hybrid mural]

hmm.... I guess I could do 10+30

[noble wedge]

??

[ornate spoke]

Lol sry i meant restrict prem tanks not ban 😂 so then the playing field gets levelled out because u play ratings battles to prove your skill in the game and when using tanks like smasher,anni,t22 medium like tanks which have a more stronger influence on how a battle is played because of their strong characteristics when compared to the tech tree tanks of that class(for example if we compare t62A and t22 medium a player would be more inclined in playing the t22 because it has a good armour and gun over the other so eventually the player who can invest money and buy the t22 medium will have a higher chance in performing well in a battle than a player who doesnt but the t22 and just stick to t62A)

[normal garnet]

@patent pier he means that only tech tree tanks should be allowed in ratings, not premiums

[hybrid mural]

That's stupid. Ratings is a place for tryhards. You should at least buy one premium that you love to play and you're good at to play on ratings to maximize your chances of winning. Or else you're just hurting everyone else.

[pallid tendon]

Thats stupid, players have already been sold premium tanks for REAL money..

If WG did that they would have to offer refunds, its like selling a premium and nerfing it as soon as the sale is over. Players purchased a tank they expected to be able to play whatever they liked with, changing this after the sale would mean they originally falsely advertised, thats a really really stupid suggestion

[ornate spoke]

Dude ratings battles is a competitive based mode and competitive based game modes lean on bringing fair play to matches and provide a environment where players skill only determines how good he is and how far he can climb up the leaguesand nothing else,but when u are able to purchase op prem tanks which increases your probablitiy on winning matches while simultaneously increasing your ability to climb up the leagues this destroys that fair play competitive environment and just introduce the pay to win environment for ratings,where players who are able to purchase op prems can climb the league and genuinely skilled players who cant afford those op prem tanks are hard stuck in lower leagues which defeats the whole point of having ratings battles as a competitive based mode

[wraith iron]

or maybe you are just unskilled

[ornate spoke]

Bruh 😂

[pallid tendon]

I reached Diamond with the t29, Emil 2 and Kranvagn this season, I agree premiums can give a bit of an advantage but (A) Ultimately its about the skill of the player more than the tank they play, noobs wont reach the better leagues no matter what they play (B) As I said, I reached Diamond with 3 tech tree tanks so thats enough proof that its possible even with TT against premium vehicles.

What I think is completely unreasonable is that people pay money for a product which is changed after the transaction has been completed. If that happens you are being sold a product you had no intention of buying, premiums will always be a problem in ratings but you are overstating their effect and it would be a far bigger mistake to ban premiums than to leave the mm the way it is.

[agile sphinx]

You can't play certain prems in realistic because it makes it unrealistic.

Ratings is intended to be measure of skill and op prems do not make a fair playing field for everyone.

They wouldn't have to offer any refunds or any compensation at all. Ratings isn't about skill at the moment for a number of reasons like battle spamming having much much more of an impact than skill, the ability to literally spam an anni/other op tank (mainly prems) and get to whatever rating you want.

It's possible to get to high ratings in tech tree tanks easily, but it's easier in prems. If you out the same time and effort into ratings in a prem and a tech tree tank you will end up higher by playing a prem on average.

It's not unreasonable to make ratings tech tree only at all, it's a perfect way of making it a more balanced playing field. Your precious prem is still perfectly functional in normal battles, you just can't abuse it in ratings anymore. That is only an issue for people that rely on them to pretend they are good because they can get to 5k with 800 battles in an anni. There is a tiny fraction of the playerbase who will buy a prem just for ratings and that is mainly rerolls who are going to spend money on the game anyway. It's not any noticeable loss for WG, it makes rerolling a tad more difficult which is great, and it makes ratings more fair for everyone.

I have my fair share of broken prems and I play them in ratings every so often so it's not like I'm a f2p guy trying to give myself an advantage, it's just one small step to make ratings a respectable game mode.

[serene crystal]

I feel like doesn’t matter how Op a premium is, a good player in a good tank will overcome it either way. Like I’ve seen ppl get to diamond w tank like t49 or some other “not broken” tank. Yes thoes tank is a good tank but it’s not unkillable by any mean and there’s always a counter to a tank. Also most diamond player rn is spamming Emil 1/2 or kran. These tank is good, versatile and is also a tech tree tank... or play in tier 10 cuz that’s prob the most balance tier

[pallid tendon]

Dude, Ive made my point. Removing premiums from ratings is out of the question, its Suicide for WG and even I as a consumer see how unreasonable this is an therefore cant be idealistic and support this.

Removing premiums from Ratings is like you buying a Mercedes and getting delivered Wolkswagen Polo, WG has promised not to touch premiums, that means no nerfs or restrictions. You seem to be blind to the fact that if WG does this their reputation will be destroyed and their bottom line will be hurt as well as dealing with the PR shitstorm and all the people wanting refunds.

Across all video game its hard to think of a developer who would nerf a paid item to the extent you are asking it to be. At most a game breaking payed feature could be slightly balanced, nothing major, but removing prems is stupid as this is a widescale nerf on millions of euros worth of paid content on a feature which is not game breaking (Myself and many other make Diamond regularly in tech trees playing premium tanks on the way there).

Stop being idealistic, its selfish to propose something like this knowing naive players will call for this and cause an unecessary turmoil, its even more selfish that you insist on pushing this view knowing it could kill the game.

Maybe selfish is the wrong word, and maybe its a bit harsh but the point stands. WG could absolutely never do this, in the real world along with in video games, negatively altering a good or service after its sold is condemned as bad bussiness practice and can even be illegal (this counts as false advertising)

[serene crystal]

^^ I agree it is a selfish thing because In end rsting IS SKILL BASE. Why? Cuz if ur good OP prem wouldn’t be a problem. I get the whole missle thing cuz u getting shot out of no where, but op prem? I can’t think of a single tank that is breaking rsting. Shark, action, annil, smasher, THEYRE all Op but seeing them doesn’t rlly phase good player anymore, they’re stil just rank at the end of the day and they have its strength and weakest. Honestly before ppl blaming stuff like the team or the tank sometime you needa look at ur self and what u could have done. If u decide to engage a t54e2 that is hulldown that’s ur fault. If ur in the open in front of a hulldown action X that’s ur fault, the tank is good but ur player decision is better. There’s a reason all the pro get to diamond w the dumbest tank ever

[pallid tendon]

I feel like you saw that t10 premiums where banned from Ratings in Wot PC and decided to push for that here too.

Theres a difference between what PC did and what you are proposing for Blitz.

On PC those t10s were not premiums, they were non payed obtained as rewards for playing game modes (t22, obj 907 and t95/fv4201 Chieftain, I have them and I wasnt happy about nerf but I never payed real money for them and it is impossible to buy with real money).

These tanks were a lot more OP than 99% of premiums in Blitz with the exception of the Smasher and Annihalator, and they were obtained for FREE with WG NEVER stating that they would never nerf these vehicles in any way unlike what they said about premiums on Blitz.

Regardless of how OP they were, as real money was mever involved in obtaining them WG had the freedome to nerf them or remove them from game modes. In Blitz its not a question of OP, its simple, somebody spent real money on that tank, even if it was only 1 cent it means we will not touch it. And honestly i find this super reasonable

[lime sparrow]

So many words to read this is boring!

[elfin burrow]

https://youtu.be/TrkbdIBy8UA Something Interesting to Watch

[eager sundial]

It's called a discussion, so you and the others who put an emote don't have to be a part of it @lime sparrow

[lime sparrow]

@eager sundial too many word please paraphrase

[agile sphinx]

It's not suicide for WG in the slightest as I explained. There isn't really any reason at all to buy a prem just for ratings unless you want a 1 battle reroll. It won't ruin WGs reputation at all. I don't see anyone complaining and begging for a refund because they can't play a defender in realistic.

Paid items can and have been nerfed, WG just don't like doing it. This is changing a game mode to be more like what the game mode is designed to be.

I don't see how this is being selfish in the slightest (fair playing field??? Ewww gtfoh you are so selfish) and it sure ain't going to kill the game. It's unlikely they will do this but it's definitely possible and it's worth pushing for as it will improve ratings drastically. WG can happily do this as they have total power over all game characteristics and rights to change what they like in the name of balance as has been argued and settled on in the discord many times.

I don't play PC and i take no notice of it in the slightest. Again this discussion about whether WG can change prems has been had many many times and the same points have been raised over and over and it always ends in someone throwing insults or both sides agreeing that WG can change what they like they just tend to not nerf prems.

@THNS#0453 Who's going to get to high ratings the fastest? A guy playing an anni or a guy of the same level playing a SP1C? Ratings is supposed to be about skill not what op tanks you can buy. Op tanks give you a clear advantage. Your argument seems to be "just be better than whoever you are facing" which fails on so many levels when rating is about facing people of equal strength. The reason good players get to diamond in stupid tanks is because they spend a lot lot lot more battles than they would if they were playing op tanks. Everyone has a limit of time they can spend on the game so you can't say "just play more games". There's no reason to not play a broken tank unless you are in it for the challenge.

[cobalt quarry]

Does everyone in diamond get atleast 5 parts for IS-6 fearless ?

[worldly anvil]

yes

[limber ermine]

Yes, this season is 2 months so 10 parts

[clever bridge]

When will be the offers with the ranked coins ?

[sacred verge]

I used to get 10 parts for being Diamond. Why 5 now?

[noble wedge]

I got 40 last season

[cobalt quarry]

that wasn't the question

[noble wedge]

Oh sorry my mistake, this season everyone in diamond gets 10 cuz it lasts 2 months instead of 1, you also only need top 10 to get the tank unlike top 5 other months.

[limber ermine]

I think it’s basically 5 parts per month

[willow lintel]

hi

[keen moon]

Æsir#5758 has been warned.

[blissful grail]

20month to finish whole part of is-6 is too long

[lime sparrow]

Have you ever tried climbing the leaderboards 💩

Cool but have you ever tried climbing the leaderboards 💩

Damn I guess he never tried climbing the leaderboards 💩

[stable nest]

guys any platoon ?

[flat basalt]

i think new avatars are not cool,especially Diamond avatar. current avatar is better than new.

[tender cargo]

Wow

[mellow robin]

ig it doesn't matter what it looks like bc it will always be a flex avatar

[serene crystal]

Eh I use it for look more than a flex ngl. But I agree the new one is ugly

[cobalt quarry]

huh, and i thot previous one didn't really had the looks for a "badge"

[storm jungle]

Hmm imo playing competitive tournaments with friends is better than wasting time and braincells in rating. Hmm Pro avatar flex or new rating avatar flex?

[regal cosmos]

Rating avatar flex

[radiant egret]

Hmm sounds good
Anyways there is a lag at rating mode

[snow rock]

Idk a single person who thinks the ratings av is a flex. That’s some beta male energy

[copper mauve]

imagine thinking anything to do with ratings is a flex

[white spruce]

@patent pier . Presumably this means the amount of parts you need to craft the tank is more. How much will it be?

[lime sparrow]

Ratings is not a flex

[midnight lark]

Nah
It can be a flex. For some players is 3k a flex but for some other 5k

[ornate spoke]

i seriously agree, old avatars looked amazing, and the new ones look like garbage. I suspect that WG was doing this to prevent people from tunneling diamond league players as easily but if that's the case just don't run the avatar and don't get tunneled

[white spruce]

They wanted to refresh the avatars and instead turned it into an igneous rock

[ornate spoke]

agreed

[serene crystal]

Trueee diamond avatar get running but ur team also help you

[brave night]

wait so we really can keep the diamond avatar from next season if we get diamond league? That will be nice. My fav avatar atm

[white spruce]

You get a temporary one as always, however winning battles in a league gets you progress towards a permanent avatar.

[patent pier]

it means since rating season takes two months you can receive more parts
details are here
https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/content/rating-battles/

[white spruce]

I see, thanks. The wording gave some confusion, made me think you were increasing the parts needed to craft the tank.

[patent pier]

yeah, looks like the phrase wasn't perfect
sorry for confusing 😦

[radiant egret]

Why does rating mode lag?

[noble wedge]

potato PC

[brave thicket]

potato wifi

[patent pier]

i'm going to beat my personal best this time!

[topaz chasm]

what’s your personal best

[blissful grail]

is it the new rating coin same as the season coin?

[patent pier]

~4.800

[orchid yarrow]

Good luck! 😉 I’m gonna try to get the IS-6 this time, 50 parts left.

[marble timber]

Imma grind some season coins

[signal marten]

I'm have a question , how many times need to get IS 6? Because yeah I don't know sorry if I'm asking for that

[white grail]

:D

[floral dock]

imagine not getting the fearless from being top 5 :/ and instead having to get it from multiple seasons of places 30-6

[zinc ravine]

Imagine battle spamming in Order to get a old and obsolete vehicle that isn’t even a flex anymore

[honest dust]

Okay i have made this Suggestion several Times about adding seasonal coins to rating battles to make them more attractive and WG did it. Thank you very very much, i think it will increase the players in ratings. But maybe add some one or two camos that we can buy with the coins as well ( or Marks of excellence 😁) and a small amount of coins for wins in Gold League as well, like 5 or so 🙂

Edit: i think some players might be discouraged if you only get coins from plat League and above. Gold League is possible even for players who are Not that good and would encourage them to get into ratings as well

[regal cosmos]

It will encourage them to play more and get into platinum

[zenith trellis]

Agreed

[ornate spoke]

World of tanks is the best game

[clever bridge]

I was hyped to get the Fearless this month 'cause I only need 30 more parts, but now I feel like way more players will have it and it won't be that rare anymore :/

[ornate spoke]

imagine being bad at the game but still sweating it and throwing your life away

[pallid tendon]

Small amount of players play ratings, and of those players an even smaller amount get the fearless, let alone get close to getting one. Pretty sure it will still be one of the rarest tanks in the game so don't worry!

[serene crystal]

Lmao yea I thought of u the moment I saw the season coin thing added lol... ig they do look here after

[ornate spoke]

have to admit, i dont think these are beauties. tbh the platinum one looks better than the diamond. probably will not be using these avatars when i get them

[serene crystal]

I like the old one soo much better... I wish we can keep the old one instead of making it go away forever

[floral dock]

so relatable

[ornate spoke]

i am sure it is for you

[graceful fern]

Is this even allowed?
500 point difference

[white spruce]

welcome to ratings

[warm charm]

ive seen way worse :V, also season just started so barely anyone has calibrated yet

[native marten]

If you have calibrating players (or the enemy team) that might be the reason why. For whatever reason, calibrating players do have a rating, but it's not displayed in game (you can find the rating of a calibrating player through blitzstars). Pretty sure matchmaking tries to even out the teams by taking including the rating of the calibrating players when getting both teams to a relatively close averaging rating, but the rating displayed right there is only done with players who have finished calibration (if that makes sense)

there's also a picture of a supposedly 5k average team vs a mid 3k team except the 5k average team only had 1 person done with calibration and you guessed it their rating was the team's "average" rating

[graceful fern]

You tell me

[warm charm]

idk man u doing 500 dmg really doesnt help 🤷‍♂️

[graceful fern]

Can't necessarily do much with a foch on medium side of yamato Harbour if the entire team of mine goes there and then chickens out after 1 min
1 vs 5
You tell me :man_shrugging:

[serene crystal]

That’s like 1 shot tho... Also medium side of Yamato is camo feast for Td

[graceful fern]

Yeah?
If I get rushed by 5 people then I can't really get more than 1 shell out....
And honestly, I don't even know why I thought I could trust these people and should help them...
Yamato in generel is awful imo

[marble timber]

Welcome to the fearless gang mate

[ornate spoke]

o0ho0ho0ho "fearless gang"

[covert wind]

No but you can't play ratings without 100% crew so this is the wrong channel @shrewd shadow

[white grail]

:D

[ancient helm]

@ornate spoke

[marble timber]

Come on dude dont be like that lol

[snow rock]

I find it entertaining watching players think because they are in diamond league that they are good. But then u look at there stats and they aren’t even a unicum. 💀

[serene crystal]

Ayeee that’s meeee a diamond leuge player who’s have blue wn8 LOL

[hollow oasis]

me too... but still i dont think diamond league is ez and its for noobs like another silver pro players

[humble dove]

Why kiddies play 😢 😭

[noble wedge]

Im stuck at 4k

[hollow oasis]

because its world of tanks blitz

[pallid tendon]

Diamond isnt about Wn8, its about winning. I know a few blue players who have 60% winrate, do think Diamon is about skill, and that skill isnt displayed only by winrate or wn8.

[agile sphinx]

Ratings isn't about skill at all, it's about who is at least average and can play a lot of games...

It's also a different playstyle to normal battles but it's similar enough to take stats as an average. It's also embarrassingly easy to pad WR and WN8 if you want to...

[opal vessel]

gratz

[blissful grail]

how long will the season coin stay in rating game?

[pallid tendon]

Fair, agree in some cases. A lot of players make Diamond playing 500+ battles but a lot of us play 150 max. Most players dont have time to spam ratings so whether you make it there in a time efficient matter does often come down to skill, ofc there are players who dont need skill in ratings cause they have no life and spam battles.

Your Wn8 and Wr% in ratings doesnt count towards your stats so i dont get what you mean here.

[feral fiber]

Agreed, although having skills makes the process faster, getting to diamond

[serene crystal]

The thing is someone could be blue in pub but play like super uni in rating. Diamond is abt spamming but u also need some skill and knowledge to get there. No one ever get to diamond averaging 300dmg at tier 10

[snow rock]

Every season I calibrate to 4K then grind to diamond in like a few days

[pallid tendon]

Diamond is not about Spamming.

Spamming is one of the eays you can get to Diamond bust most people dont do that.

People see a 52% player in Diamond and assume they spam without checking their 30 days (whivh are usually quite good).

Also, a lot of the blue wn8 players in Diamond have 60%+ 3p day winrates, they dont farm a lot of damage but make the correct choices which win their teams games, this slillset is perfect for ratings where ultimately its about winning the game rather than doing the top damage.

Id say maybe 20% of Diamond players are filthy spammers (1k+battles in a month), and the rest either need 500 or so battles (slightly worse players) or like most of us play 200 battles MAX.

At rhe end of the day Diamond does have a slill element to it. Most players dont have the time to play 1k rating battles so how often they win and their personal performance is crucial to their success.

[warm charm]

Theres no skill in diamond lmao, if you're at least blue wn8 and you're motivated you can easily get into diamond. There are so many people who are in diamond who are blue or barely pink wn8, while you have super unis who don't really care in platinum. And then theres the fact that you can be complete garbage but spam anni/smasher/other op t7-t8 prems and reach diamond despite being horrible at t10.

[serene crystal]

There isn’t.... you need to know what ur doing to get to diamond. Last season after I break 4.7k rating, I have to average 2.7-3k at tier 8 to go up and win as well as frontline(don’t get me wrong ppl can farm all the way up but as a heavy player i find that teammate like to not move). However I don’t need to be good to be up there, spamming does work but it’s slow and u need to have some clue on how to play the game

[warm charm]

Lol what I've made diamond almost every season where I wasn't memeing, even almost made diamond when I calibrated at 1500. And having blue wn8 with 60% wr means nothing, you can always play lower tiers and platoon more often. And I did see someone who played 300+ battles in anni and got into diamond, despite only doing 1.6k avg in his anni and at other tiers. And honestly, while skill is probably the biggest factor to get to diamond, luck plays a huge role, if you get good teams you can easily gain, while if you're a pro player but you get bad teams you will still gain, but its way slower and more painful.

[ornate spoke]

Yes, obviously luck plays a factor but you just made all of the points that @pallid tendon made who I was agreeing with. Lets just stop the pointless argument, I deleted previous post.

[warm charm]

lol this is y i barely even talk here anymore

[merry barn]

How hard is it to get IS-6 fearless?

[muted shuttle]

It is quite easy.

[noble wedge]

Agreed, i have 56 career but 65 30 day, cuz of 22k battles

[serene loom]

How do you get it 🤔

[zinc ravine]

Have no life and mental health for a month and spam battles using a couple of brains cells ez

[muted shuttle]

Just get into the diamond league

Nothing more, you get 10 parts. It has been available for such a long time it is enough to do that

[ornate spoke]

@ancient helm why the ping

XD probably just because ive been grinding my butt off for the tank and come short of it every single season because of one or two days of awful teams. gets frustrating

[serene loom]

That's hard given that my WR is only 42%.

[copper mauve]

WR doesn’t matter, spamming battles does

edit: @serene loom fun fact, ratings doesn’t affect WR, and it’s easier to climb than to fall

[serene loom]

If I kept playing rating battles my WR would drop and I'd be bankrupt of credits plus I'd fall from silver to bronze league.

[native marten]

Being able to fall into bronze league while trying to win is unironically arguably harder than getting into diamond

[ornate spoke]

No it isn’t

[thin compass]

It’s def harder to get into bronze than it is to diamond tho

[native marten]

yes that’s what I said

getting into bronze legit takes some skill to do

[true ridge]

Forgive me, but how many pets for the fearless? I don’t often play ratings but maybe I’ll spam a few hundred battles

[worldly anvil]

Should be 100

[serene crystal]

Also if u win 200 battle in plat, tho en u reach diamond... would u earn more coin then too?

[fathom panther]

You... can’t.... play ratings.... in platoon...

[zinc ravine]

I think the person meant platinum not platoon

[serene crystal]

I mean like... for the season coin it said first 200 like if I win 200 game in platinum. Can I stil go into diamond and then play another 200 game or is it just 200 total for the season. Sorry for the confusion @fathom panther

[heavy timber]

Chez

[ornate spoke]

wargaming can you please improve the scoring distribution for rating battles? its very frustrating to play when u get a bunch of newbies that just camp and do nothing and you do your best and your team looses and u get mines -30 or minus -45 or so points, and if tour lucky enough to win you get some miserable +15 points

[zinc ravine]

At least your gaining points

[ornate spoke]

When is gravity force coming back??

[primal urchin]

Did Wargaming drop the required battles for rating camo. I thought the only tanks with diamond camo was my SU-122-54 but I also have one for my Progetto 46 and T-22 with only 45 and 33 battles respectively

[regal cosmos]

Did you play any other tanks for those tiers? You need 50 battles in a tier to get a camo. Doesn’t need to be all in the same tank

[opal vessel]

12th april

[honest dust]

You need 50 games in that TIER, Not in a specific tank. When you have 50 battles in Tier 10 and your most used was the t-22, et voila, you get the Camo for it.

[thin compass]

It’s 50 in a tank

[regal cosmos]

Its tier not tank

https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/content/rating-battles/

[pallid tendon]

Its not 50 in a specific tank.

To recieve the camo a player must play 50 games within a certain tier, the camouflage is then applied to the tank the player played the most within the tier.

Check the link above for more info ^^^^

[merry barn]

I will never play this mode again. Its pay2win and unbalanced

[lavish inlet]

who plaing with me

[merry barn]

On EU server is a guy that trolls his IGN is tongue_puncher

[white spruce]

so many stupid players in this game mode lmao

[merry barn]

that is true

[gilded edge]

This Leo stayed in spawn nearly all game and instead of doing something he just ranted about the team from the beginning. People like him should get permanently banned from playing.

[eternal haven]

Dude spamming it in all the channels isn’t going to help

[merry barn]

hello we have Czech translation i think these two languages are very similar so switch to that 🙂

[fair mauve]

quick question. does wg already implemented that tourn coins can be earned at 4k ratings?

[severe forge]

.

[marble timber]

Git gud

[glacial junco]

??? Im not in plat league, why did i receive the coins?

[coral gust]

What are the coins tho? When does that event end?

[dreamy wind]

they are seasons coins, originally you could only get them from tournaments. however wargaming decided to allow players to earn them when playing regular ratings battles starting this season. you can use these coins to buy special bundles in the store after you have accumulated enough.

[keen moon]

candyreaper9 [G4]#9652 has been warned.

[red hawk]

Why

[limber ermine]

i dunno

[dull kelp]

hi ppl quick question, do we get those coins only this season, or all the seasons after? the description in game isn't too clear

[daring loom]

I believe it’s this season, however I could be wrong. There’s a bundle in the store for these coins so I assume they’re solely for that, again I could be wrong

@glacial junco While calibrating you can check your rating on blitzstars at the top, so even before you’ve calibrated you will see your rating. You probably got the coins because at that point of calibration, you were in 4k

[humble dove]

But the coin offer is inconvenient

[river sky]

Yes

@dull kelp WG didnt say anything, so I guess they want to try just on this season to see if players like it and then they will decide to keep it or remove it

[vagrant barn]

do we get coins below 4k rating?

[oblique sentinel]

4k+5k ✔️

[fast mortar]

Lol

[worldly anvil]

cursed

[pale topaz]

lol

[keen moon]

coku ulta instinct#3344 was muted

[ember halo]

You forgot to photoshop the "Tanks by type" and make the number of light tanks to 1 :P

[tribal fable]

May I ask how did the battle end 😁

[noble wedge]

that image is supercursed

[river sky]

I already posted on #585463961730940929 but I will also say it here as this channel has way more traffic: there has been so much LAG all day, for every single player, that battles are decided when MM puts the laggy players together, resulting on 7-0 or 0-7 every single match. I have never seen so much lag in this game before

[ornate spoke]

who pinged me ?

[ornate spoke]

i already saw that one, I guess it was same guy doing it again

[covert wind]

If somebody is salty enough to make a second account just to ghost ping you can be proud of yourself.

Nobody ever done that for me :(
I do my best though.

[ornate spoke]

@covert wind I did it for you

[covert wind]

Thanks man :')

[ornate spoke]

ahah

[ornate spoke]

just saw this player in ratings, they average 1800 at tier 10. why does this player have a diamond league avatar? It's because ratings is nothing about skill, it's only about battlespamming. This player had no tactical knowledge and singlehandedly lost us the game and yet he/she is in the diamond league

[gilded edge]

maybe he spammed Anni ? whats his IGN?

[ornate spoke]

hes not anni spammer, just a tier 6 sealclubber

[oblique sentinel]

T6 in rating!!!

[ornate spoke]

no he spams tier 6s for stats in pubs but he was useless in ratings battles
also the next game i played with him on my team and he trolled me by blocking me. we lost

[fast mortar]

End pretty bad

[karmic ore]

make ticket and report him

[dire quiver]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/637863004301557762/829915717285314560/video0.mov

Who needs to do damage smh

[lime sparrow]

I simply just don’t take damage

[merry barn]

edit there are 0 LTs in queque

[tribal fable]

Hehe once I was the last one one my team and there were still five more enemies and I managed to take them all out

[fast mortar]

Nice

[ornate spoke]

no get out of here

[late shore]

rating is chill but you need to be in a tank you think you can learn from mistakes in. t8 tourney are a bit worse, two types of heavy and progetto. i think action x + chimera are also not too good there but just from what i've seen

[marble timber]

Who plays tier 8 Tours lol

[keen moon]

Szymonhost#7425 was banned

[eternal cedar]

how many bots in rating battle?!? They kicked me from platinium league!

[oblique sentinel]

When i play rating i test 2 battle if i lose i go to regular battles if i win 1 battle or 2 i continue
Try this approach if you want to rise your rating .. remember don't spam rating if you lose 2 or 3 battle's

[quaint thunder]

@median zenith you say nothings wrong with matchmaking

Explain then why two opponents are unicum while I'm the highest winrate on my team

And how when looking at Blitzstars and comparing preliminary rating the enemy team stands way higher on average?

[median zenith]

... because that's completely random and your team still did well...

[quaint thunder]

Did well? The heavies pushed encounter brainlessly. The enemy Progetto and Vickers flanked and my teammates forced me to deal with them. In the end I got rushed by four enemies while my teams heavies were just doing nothing. Fair mm?

In your dreams

Hell: the 5A and 1/4 were the last ones alive and they could have helped dealing with the Progetto and Vickers but they were to focussed on trying to shoot where no enemies are

[median zenith]

Ok

So get better at the game

What solution do you want? Are you gonna complain when you have 2 unicums on your team and the opposing team doesn't?

I very much doubt you ever will

I see the same issues with people complaining about matchmaking every time

I still have yet to see someone complain about MM when they are on the winning side of things

And those unicums work get to better at the game themselves

It's not fair they are better than you?

I really don't see the issue here

[quaint thunder]

Is that the best you come up with? I fight my rear end off. How tf can any tank stand up against 4 enemies because you are the only ones with any braincells? Tell me that first. In fact, show me

I would really like to toon with you on a day where my matchmaking is really crap and see how well you do. I bet you: within 3 battles you'll squeel differently. No one can carry these teams. If I would be able to carry these teams, I would ace a tank every second battle. Now you

[vivid shore]

🤡

[median zenith]

Given my platoon rate is in the single digits for my career battles, I know I would be fine. I'm not used to being carried by anyone and I got where I am all by myself.

[ornate spoke]

theres unwinnable games, but in the long run i think matchmaking is fair

and i rarely see unicums complain about mm

[quaint thunder]

I got where I am all by myself as well. However, carrying is nigh impossible when your tank is at 75% crew and no equipment.

I can give you one worse. Your only answer is get good. Now watch this mornings stream of HisRoyalFatness on the Ho-Ri line. Even he complained about the matchmaking and how it was impossible to win. And he is one of the best players in the world, if not the best

[median zenith]

So there's a battle you don't win

Are you gonna complain about every battle?

Are you not gonna commit to MM being rigged and vouch for the losing sides too?

Or is that too much effort

Or does it not matter since it isn't you

[tender cargo]

yes no

[queen lichen]

There are some battles you just can’t win. So what do you do? Get the hell off the scene and farm until you die

[oblique sentinel]

Agree

[quaint thunder]

Not every battle. But in the end I see a patern appear

My clanmates see this pattern to. Even HisRoyalFatness says he sees this pattern. I'm sorry but this is a battle you won't win

[eternal cedar]

I think WG must be fix that because defeating in row...

[lime sparrow]

get better

[worthy zodiac]

Honestly I don’t understand ppl moaning about mm

[keen moon]

adem the IDK#6220 has been warned.

Dragon of the Beans#8325 has been warned.

[stone relic]

Wow didn't know wargaming like censoring people too :/ but what do you expect big shot game companies nowadays

[ornate spoke]

Wincholade has 91% wr at avg 9.89 tier on eu server, mm seems fine for him 👀

[stone relic]

when I say censoring I mean like the curse word kind not what Twitter and Facebook are doing but let's not dig into that infinite pothole

[ornate spoke]

@stone relic God forbid you read the #rules of the server 🤦🏼‍♂️

[stone relic]

Yeah I did but that was forever ago I've been in the server for like 3 months

[ornate spoke]

Ignorance of the rules does not make you exempt from the rules.

[tiny nacelle]

@lime tinsel so true

[lime tinsel]

There should be some sweeping changes to ratings to make it balanced (maybe fun? Probably never tho):

• MAKE RATINGS TIME-LIMITED so players will actually play the mode, instead of literally available all day long. Rarity draws players (for example have it be available for 3-4 weeks at a time every tournament season). Having ratings available every day dilutes playerbase.
• tier X tech tree tanks ONLY (this is supposed to be a skilled gamemode, not some premium tank flex-off. Also, many players play lower tiers to avoid higher skilled opponents)
• let players that carry on the losing team earn more points
• increase credit coefficient bonus for all leagues so players can make credits
• increase top 10 rewards to beyond gold (XP or credit certificates for tanks, season coins, battlepass can all be given away as a reward)
• have rewards for reaching individual leagues (reward for reaching diamond, plat, gold)
• have a set amount of currency earned by playing ratings (kind of like bonds for WOT PC) that top players in diamond league can earn then spend on numerous special reward tanks (tier 9s and 10s)

Currently, ratings is boring and underplayed because:

• Low player base (gamemode is seen as toxic and unforgiving for mediocre players, and is seen as terrible and full of noobs by superunicums)
• Availability is too high (mode available all day long means that it has zero worth in the players' minds)
• Too wide of a tier spread (4 tiers to play at means that players can simply play lower tiers to avoid higher skilled players, plus a wide tier spread means less players per tier)
• Not enough rewards (rewards are frankly terrible, players have to grind hundreds of battles per month to get a few parts for IS-6, or a measly 500 gold)
• No incentive for many free-2-play players to play ratings (matchmaking, especially at tier 7 and 8, are almost 100% premium tanks)
• In the end, players just cannot see this mode for what it is supposed to be: a place where skilled players play against one another in a balanced tank environment. This basically destroys the concept of ratings in the first place, and nowadays ratings is a toxic place where unicums that want to tryhard all month for 5k gold and an IS-6 Fearless go to yell and scream at 40%ers that play ratings because they don't know any better

[tiny nacelle]

facts (def not me) fr though

[pallid tendon]

@lime tinsel Agree with pretty much everything you said.

WG should significantly increase the rewards provided during the season (not only for top 30 in Diamond but for all players) and change it so that ratings is available for 1 or 2 months four times a year (during seasons).

Do have to say though that while I agree people on the loosing team who did well ahould get points, I feel like it would turn rating into a mode where everyone camps, farms off team mates or baits instead of taking hits to win the game, not sure avout that one.

[lime tinsel]

@pallid tendon See, that's the problem with the chevron system in WoT. Since only bottom 5 on winning team and non-top 1 on losing team doesn't get any rewards, players play selfishly and causes very stupid gameplay that isn't good for the game. So ofc I don't want that. That's the good thing about ratings in blitz, is that whether you gain ratings or lose ratings is largely up to you winning or losing the battle.

BUT I will say that in some cases (and there are a lot of them) the losing team will have one player that does more damage or gets more XP above the rest of the team, and I don't think that they are rewarded enough for carrying hard. I have had more than my share of games where I do extremely well but lose, and still lose 10 or so points simply because the game was lost. I feel like in those cases I should be given the points as if I won the game. Even if I gain points on a loss, it is still only a handful of points (1-10) gained, which is ofc just terrible compared to what the winning team will get

Again, this would only be for cases where one or two guys do much better than the rest of his team on a loss

[pallid tendon]

Doesnt completely solve the issue ^^^

Maybe a system where if you get a 2nd/1st/Mastery class your points are given to you as if you had won with that performance.

Not very easy to get badges on losses so players who played very very solid games would still be rewarded as if they had won the match with said performance.

By implementing this, in t19 ratings playing a 3k game wouldnt be enough for points game but a 4 kr 4.5k game would.

I think this wouldnt really push players to camp a lot etc as even when you bait its not easy to get a 4.5k game in a loss, let alone a badge (is very doable if you know what you you are doing tho)

@lime tinsel

[lime tinsel]

yeah well, sadly you will always have people abusing the system, what can I say.
This is why I absolutely hate people who drive 183 in ratings. You just know that they aren't there to help their team at all, but rather sit back, farm off teammates, and try to not lose ratings when their teams fall.

But hey, the rest of the implements can only have good effects.

[median zenith]

If the system is made completely off of EXP alone I do believe that it would be fine even with 183s, I play second line on my 183 and front line in the latter half (I don't play ratings mind you), and I've noticed it seems that 183 has a reduced XP gain

[lime tinsel]

@median zenith It's because if you aren't spotting your own targets half the XP goes to the spotter. BUT WG has said that damage matters

[median zenith]

Nah, I don't play anymore than 150 meters away in my 183

If I do it's only because there are too many tanks with high view range that will pick me off

[lime tinsel]

remember, if ur shooting at a tank that is tracked, half ur XP also goes to the player who tracked him, it's not all viewrange

[median zenith]

I know, I rarely see my teammates track enemies, but they do love to not shoot back a lot

[dreamy wind]

the issue with ratings right now is that it takes zero skill to get to higher leagues, u can literally just sit there, spam battles and still make it to diamond with ease as long as your team is winning. if there was a battle cap on battles you can play per day and the points system was reworked, we might actually see players try for their select few ratings battles in they day instead of just spamming and hoping the team carries them.

[ornate spoke]

Trains

[stiff condor]

Thx for the tip

[marble timber]

@dreamy wind if u prefer getting into diamond with 800 battles, then kudos for u

[agile sphinx]

They still get the reward and still get the ranking even if they don't deserve it which is the issue.

Getting to 5k rating should be a good achievement, but rn it's just a joke. It's way too easy to gain points when you do badly but win, and also way too easy to gain points when you do well and lose.

Before people start coming in with one off screenshots of "look at me I carried I deserve something", if you lose then you don't deserve to gain points. You lost. You didn't do enough. Whether you did everything you possibly could but it wasn't enough or whether you farmed off your team and put them in bad situations to give you more damage it doesn't matter, you still lost. Ratings is about how good you are at playing, and playing well means playing as a team player.

[agile sphinx]

To bring down the average rating so it's matchable in a relatively short time...
It's not a perfect system but imposing any limit on who can play with who will totally ruin ratings because it will drive queue times through the roof, meaning even less people want to play. You need to expand the playerbase (specifically the good players) in rating first before introducing anything like a specific range for the matchmaker to look at

[upper mulch]

Why wg add bots to game ????

[stiff condor]

Ah yes do 5k dmg and lose sike u didn't do enough

[regal cosmos]

If you do well enough you already gain points. No need to increase that so that you get points like you have won a battle, when you havent. WG has also said that their intention is for ratings to be about playing as a team and winning rather than each player focusing only on collecting damage

[tender cargo]

lol rating battles

[keen moon]

Senko#6491 has been warned.

[agile sphinx]

You could have done 5.1k. You could have done 5k of useful damage. You could have been in a situation where you worked well enough with your team to win without doing 5k.

You can always do more until you win every game. If you don't work well enough with your team to win why do you deserve to gain anything?

"I tried my best" well sorry to break it to you but your best wasn't good enough, try again next game.

[marble ferry]

Rating battles fun until that one teammate start calling the whole team trash after dying

[sonic sedge]

@marble ferry haha, screen shot & report them for abuse, also ratings can’t be a ‘team’ game all the while WG put it into the missions pile, you’ll get players playing it just to complete a mission with no care what the ‘team’ does @regal cosmos .
Also you get players from other than the EU countries/server who don’t understand which way to go when it’s called! 🤷‍♀️

[muted shuttle]

Why do you think anybody should listen to somebody else when it comes to which way one should go?

7 players means 7 different opinions.

[ornate spoke]

HRF aces every 3rd game tbh
i was responding to the thing about carrying every game and there is nosuch thing as rigged MM

[muted shuttle]

How is that related to the discussion?

[ornate spoke]

Am i stupid because i dont see that discussion in this channel at all? think it was in like the #gravity channel

[sonic sedge]

@muted shuttle well unless it’s all the same tier (which is unlikely most of the time in ratings) then as per the hints & tips by War Gaming the lower tiers should be following/helping the higher tiers, which sometimes doesn’t happen as they’ve not read the hints & tips & then start bleating for help once they’ve gone off on their own & met the higher tier opposition 😆

[ornate spoke]

I did 10k dmg in a game and lost how do I do better plz teach me

[regal cosmos]

Do 11k

[agile sphinx]

^ or start working with your team and being useful instead of farming off them even if things may be a little exaggerated

[mellow ermine]

i think farming will be better for winning. You cant select your teammates so you are the brain in game you should last guy alive. You should be the guy who is s clutching game because saved his hp. If you are really good at game you shouldn't stick to your team that much. Let them take the damage and you do the clutching. Working with team is bad idea if your teammates all had same skill level yes it can be good when everyone is good but in wotb its not. For example you understand your teammate is about to die you take a shot for him and save him cool right ? But he doesnt understand this. He simply thinks he was lucky he made it out there himself and hes not taking shot for you and dont listen you in battle.

[median zenith]

If you chose to not share your hitpoints at all you doom your team a large amount of the time, it's one thing blocking damage but if you can stop teammates from dying that's at least another gun to help out

[mellow ermine]

well its good point but you should save the guy can use his gun correctly otherwise you are throwing your hp (save platoon mate maybe)

[dreamy wind]

i think if battle count per day was limited to say 20 battles in ratings, it might encourage people to actually try for those 20 battles as it would be a limited amount of time to go up points. if they do bad for those 20 battles or lose more than they want, it might convince them that for tomorrow they should try a little harder or learn and work on strategies to win more often

[mellow ermine]

this will hurt %100wr players

[agile sphinx]

You are more useful if you use your hp to keep your teammates alive as well as yourself. Two guns are better than one even if the other gun is a bot. Any good player knows how to work with their team instead of seeing them as obstacles. Playing selfishly is not the way to win.

100% accounts deserve to get hurt, but I don't think a battle limit is a good long term solution. Maybe short term to stop as much battle spamming but it's better to sort out the points system

[mellow ermine]

think same for %100wr accounts.

@agile sphinx its what i think for current meta. If you are playing for wn8 or winrate this way works for me. The way you told can work too but it really depends to your teammates. I dont think bot gun is worth save.I saw at least 100 players watching his teammates while hes fighting 2v1.
edit: i think the way you told is better for everyone but everyone should do the way you told

[vague oracle]

yeah wg has player base that we can trust and play together as a team right?. @mellow ermine perfect thats what my clan mates tell us to do. Dont trust the teams just farm the damage.

[snow surge]

This channel in a nutshell:
Players: Ok, so can you fix this? Rating bad! I do SOOO well but I still lose! Pls halp! Team nub. (Doesn't specify how to fix ratings like a pro)
WG and Players who are obviously benefiting from the system by only using meta tanks: Noooooo I can't do that you just complain, you nub, get better (Ignores facts and stats like a boss, goes back to making blatantly overpowered or lukewarm mediocre crate tanks)

[regal cosmos]

If youre really a good player youre not going to have a hard time gaining points

[vague oracle]

Only some percent will be belonging to good player class. Well i fall into avg one and it frustrates me (i know iam not good but i try to do my part)cuz i cant turn around the match outcomes like how good players do when they get bad teams. matches can be lost because of one small mistake by anyone. But matches lost due to some nut incapability of aiming and not even using a single brain cells are the ones that makes it terrible for other avg players

[regal cosmos]

You cant eliminate bad players entirely. Theres always going to be good and bad players. Ratings would make you face less of the bad players if enough people played it, but there arent enough to do that

[vague oracle]

yeah no one can do anything regarding bad players. Its a lost cause . It may be bad wifi or bad pc or a bad player . This game being available in phone is what made the game have so many players who just open the game and press battle and stop using brain . Everyone knows it and sorry for repeating again. If i had some more talent, i would have just tried to play good graphics demanding game. That way there will be less no of these players in such games.

[rancid plover]

Is IS-6 Fearless lifetime?

[muted shuttle]

In theory yes, but we cannot force people to do what we tell them.

[muted shuttle]

Yes, it stays in your garage forever.

[dreamy wind]

they have mentioned a new ratings tank in the works, don’t expect it for a while tho

[high arch]

New seeding for tourneys also are coming right? .. right?

[dreamy wind]

huh, she’s in a bikini man it’s not like she’s shirtless

have u never been to a beach before?

[dusty kelp]

Why? R u scared of girls? Lol

[dreamy wind]

^ it’s a bikini bruh, idk why you are so pressed about it

[sturdy needle]

And how is a bikini erotic? Do you know the definition of erotic? Are you implying that you are aroused by that picture? 😆

[serene crystal]

It said including avatar but Andy is saying that the pic isn’t rlly erotic... also why is this being discuss here

[sturdy needle]

I did, it's only 6 words 😆
Also, how is that taking the rule out of context? I was simply asking you questions as to how you perceive the rule and whether you think if it is erotic or not. Or do you think it contains pornographic material? I didn't know that a woman wearing a bikini was classified as erotic...
It's up to the mods if they think it violates the rules.

Yeah, I have no idea why people think they have to take the rules into their own hands when there are perfectly capable mods doing their job here.

[regal cosmos]

Mods themselves have had pics like that

[serene crystal]

I was abt to say, the mod was online and there would be something done if it was violati mg

[keen moon]

Captain_Ding_dong#9950 has been warned.

[sturdy needle]

kekw

[odd charm]

any good tips to reach diamond league?

[covert wind]

Mods 🏳️‍🌈 confirmed

[dreamy wind]

@restive crescent forgive me for my sins father. i didn’t realize a girl at the pool was so erotic. i hope you can find it in your heart of hearts forgiveness for my evil

[odd charm]

.-.

[restive crescent]

@dreamy wind I appreciate it thanks.
I'll delete my posts

[dreamy wind]

✝️🙏🤲

ItS oK gUyS i WaS bEiNg InApPrOpRiAtE

[covert wind]

Minimoding isn't admitting that u did somthing wrong.

[odd charm]

...

[worldly anvil]

LMAO

[ornate spoke]

ahah

[ornate spoke]

E

[jagged dirge]

is it just me? i cant see the ratings hall of fame list for the season

[surreal robin]

@restive crescent still can’t breath....

[hasty furnace]

Bruh

[brisk ridge]

Hey the ratings leaderboard is broken on the website

[restive crescent]

@surreal robin then don't overdose on drugs

@dreamy wind like, really dude?

[dreamy wind]

bruh do u not have anything better to do than complain about someone in beachwear. it’s kinda petty how much u are investing into this. like honestly bro, turn off discord or block me if the image is so disturbing to u

[ornate spoke]

@restive crescent The fact you think his profile picture is sad and childish, there is nothing Profound or explicit in his picture no parts shown. Grow up

[true ridge]

Pfp too horni pls change 😡

[restive crescent]

@ornate spoke @dreamy wind
Tell it to the mods. He got a warning.
I'm not the only one that asked him to change it anyway.

[ornate spoke]

It shouldn't matter, theres no rule listed that says his PFP is against rules and your not a mod, from my standpoint you out of nowhere start harassing a player because you don't have maturity. Literally all day you are on his tail. if you think its so important that everyone in the planet might as well tell @neat wind that his pfp is also not allowed due to boobs

[neat wind]

i will bring it up with the other mods

[ornate spoke]

Damn droodles popping off

[storm rune]

Sheeeeesh Droodles

[dreamy wind]

oH nO sHe Is An AnAtOmIcAlLy CoRrEcT fEmAle WiTh ReAl BoObS

[neat wind]

ok lets get this back to rating battles please

@restive crescent @ornate spoke in the meantime, please let the mods deal with stuff

[ornate spoke]

I shouldn't have had to say anything in the first place, people get me dissapointed

[noble pagoda]

Wot blitz audience op

[ember halo]

🍿

[neat wind]

Cent 7/1:
Grille 15:
SU-130PM: ❔

[thorn pasture]

Oof ||why is there slow mode omg|| not pog. Yes I agree droodles

[neat wind]

not even sure how 35% wr is possible tbh lol

[woeful cedar]

Ratings is a thing frost....
Edit: damn 5 minute slow mode. Time to dip

[neat wind]

i mean ig....

ive got 51 wins so far with 83 battles so far, so things are looking good overall tho

i don't actually know why there's slowmode tbh, besides the normal slowmode

5 minutes kinda excessive

[ornate spoke]

Or get this, Don't play ratings because the MM doesnt make sense and its just a tryhard haven for premiums /:

[dreamy wind]

droodles go to sleep ffs u have work tmrw

[neat wind]

im kinda concerned that they're gonna yank the Fearless at some point, so i want to try and get it before that potentially happens. i usually haven't bothered with rating battles but im gonna keep doing it until ive got the Fearless

[woeful cedar]

Wow is that droodles😱, I’m such a huge fan. I’ve been watching your videos since 2019!! Hopefully u notice me :3

[ornate spoke]

i go now

[ember halo]

Droodles inverting the text emojis like from ":)" to "(:" scares me

[glacial junco]

You just have to be at 4980 rating and you suddenly stop winning

[ornate spoke]

the hell happenedd here

[ornate spoke]

u made it to 4.9k before that happened?

[glacial junco]

Its not my acc w/ 35% on su, but thats what usually happens when i try to push top 100eu. It’s just loss after loss after loss

[real galleon]

it would be a good idea to give a special profile background for the top 5 places in Ranked Battles.

[topaz chasm]

First time I have done ratings in a long time, very happy with the calibration (I did it with a Vickers Cr)

[glacial junco]

Guys i think he’s flexing on us

[grave harness]

nice matchmaker the highest Ive calibrated at is 3800 using E50M

[topaz chasm]

Nah I’ll flex when I get to bronze league

[velvet ginkgo]

I think i'll die before you gonna flex your bronze league 😂

[worldly anvil]

congrats but ratings is more grinding than skill, so if you want to flex your time, sure

[woeful cedar]

Indeed. Ratings is a useless metric for measuring skill. It literally requires little skill and more of just time.

[serene crystal]

I’m just using rating to grind tank and credit at this point... I don’t throw the game obviously and stil do better than most ppl in the mode but I don’t see the point of sweating in it anymore

[lament shuttle]

Isn’t ratings skilled? So why is there 2k less rated player matchup with me?

[regal cosmos]

Not enough players

[primal urchin]

what would the old rating camo be used for? Wargaming spent time to design the camo and not use it again?

[neat wind]

@lament shuttle the way the matchmaking works is by combining a pool of players and then creating two teams that have a similar average rating. there aren't enough players to be able to pick 14 players with a similar rating, so you can have a wide assortment of different rankings in each match

to be honest, i prefer this type of "skill-based MM" over the normal way, which is to get all players together with an equal ranking

because if hypothetically, there were enough players to get matches where everyone has the same ranking, it would very difficult to get to the highest leagues

[thin compass]

i would play ratings if the queue time was like pubs

[pulsar smelt]

same

[modern wind]

yes

[mint canopy]

Hi guys, am still a rookie, just wanna ask some adv from the experts, what tank do you recommend in tier 8 rating battles, thanks.

[covert wind]

Emil 1 is good

[strong goblet]

ratings is for he only if ur below 4k rating

[mint canopy]

@covert wind thanks

@Divrigi#2094 what do you mean Sir?

[agile sphinx]

@mint canopy Whatever tank you feel comfortable playing is the best. There's no use trying to use something if it doesn't for your playstyle and if you want a good rating you'll have to grind a while so make sure it's a tank you enjoy playing. Things like the T-34-2, T32 and JPII work well for me but it's mostly dependent on the player.

[mint canopy]

Ah ok, if that's what you mean I got it. I mean, Im not gonna try & imitate great players as I've mentioned im a rookie, just trying gather as much info as possible from the community. Thanks for your input.☺️

[ornate spoke]

F bots on raiting battles

[agile sphinx]

It isn't the matchmaker or teammates that gives you a bad calibration it's the individual

[agile sphinx]

3-400 xp really isn't much and the odds of getting 7 losses in a row is .8% chance at 50% WR which is going to happen when you play lots of battles. Funnily you aren't posting screenshots of seven wins in a row when you get carried because you as a human are an extremely biased and opinionated thing.

[regal cosmos]

Rare but not impossible

[agile sphinx]

4-4 shots? FOUR WHOLE SHOTS??? Wow that's an absolute miracle considering you are playing a clipper and very in meta heavy.

Go get a respectable sample size and actual data and then come back here (except you won't because you will have realised you are wrong). Also randomness is funnily enough random. The outcome of your last game doesn't affect the outcome of your next game. The change of getting 7 wins in a row, 7 loses in a row and alternating wins and losses are exactly the same (assuming 50% WR but my point stands). You can try and expect things from randomness but you should be prepared to be very very wrong.

[sacred verge]

Meh, ratings is just sad

[agile sphinx]

Ratings is made to match two teams of equal average rating. You can see from battles it does this. It has the normal mm preferences to match tank types etc. It sounds like you are proposing their is a specific preference to make you lose or to make people at a certain rating lose. If you think about this even slightly, it makes no sense from WGs point of view at all. It also doesn't match with what they have told us and what most people with sense can see.

[dreamy wind]

is that even ratings or are u just complaining about pubs

[regal cosmos]

There’s a lot of battles with very low xp. You’d have to run into the enemy and die early to get that low xp

[regal cosmos]

How then does one get such low xp so frequently if theyre good players

[white spruce]

I’m not saying it’s rigged but it’s rigged
Loss/Winstreaks appear to happen a lot more in ratings. When you’re on a loss streak there are two things you can do.

1. Come back later
2. Think hard, what sort of mood you are in. Think “if I play Leo1 rn will I be able to farm dmg? Hmm maybe not. If I’m in Kranvagn? Yes sounds about right, let’s go”

[thin compass]

if u wanna sweat ratings dont play meds, theres no point cuz most of the time its just everyone camping and trading potshots, so its super hard to farm damage or flank

[white spruce]

Conserving HP is key. Lose your HP (whilst also doing dmg however) and you’ll die with about 1.5k dmg in a defeat, which is -15 rating points. Conserve HP and look for smart shots and you’ll do the 1.5k and stay full HP, allowing you to farm more late game even in a defeat, which is about 3k, -6 rating points.

Do what I said above as well.

When you’re in the game, first off analyse the enemy tanks and your tanks. You’re outnumbered on meds, don’t push meds then. Or you’re in a heavy, maybe go with your meds and steamroll theirs. Think about where you’ll be most useful. Frontline in a 50B is going to result in a dead 50B. Play smart - go mid where you’re not frontline.

Be on the lookout in the battle, if your med flank is about to collapse you probably don’t want to be there to watch it happen. In a win farm as much as possible, in a loss, conserve HP and farm as much as possible and it’ll be irrelevant.

[thin compass]

Idk sounds like being too sweaty to me
I just drive around and if it works it does no then no

[mellow robin]

what would be the optimal tier 8 tank to do rating battles in

[thin compass]

Emil prob

[olive bolt]

@warm seal Hello, although I did four kills in one battle, the system did not drop it from missions! I will try to send a picture attached. The same has happened to me before. I wish this could be fixed. Nick: EtkinTeknik , Server: Europe , April 14 Turkey time: 3:53 AM

[lime sparrow]

Hello, Cincin is not tasked with handling tech issues. If possible, go to the #eu-server channel for Technical Issues and you should be able to resolve it there

[delicate lodge]

@glacial junco Actually the more u climb in ratings the more u would expect to lose as your team will get weaker

[spiral jetty]

Stonks? Wasnt this season btw.

[thin compass]

I’m so skilled.

[odd charm]

how do people even get to 5k points? I was just 4198 not too long ago and now Im almost back at 4k

[thin compass]

just drive around and make sure to shoot a couple times, then repeat 100x

[odd charm]

???

[worldly anvil]

he’s not wrong

[lime tinsel]

you can gain ratings really easy by not playing tier X and only playing tier 8. Just jump in ur Emil I, T54E2, ActionX, or any other hulldown heavy that is borderline OP broken and skip up the leagues easily. Like, 90% of people in top 10 are mainly playing non-tier 10, because that allows you to basically skip all the skilled players 🤪

Again, this is why I probably won't really take ratings seriously until it is at least tier X, or tier 9/10 only, cuz rn tons of people can just skip the high tiers where tanks are mostly balanced OK and play stupid broken lower tier tanks. Using matchmaking to avoid more skilled players and face worse players at a more unbalanced tier is... kind of unfair, no matter which way you look at it.

[ornate spoke]

agreed

[median cosmos]

Help me. I don't play rating tournament.

[pastel raptor]

Then go play it?

[median cosmos]

My rank 10 in a clan.

[odd charm]

I see

[ornate spoke]

You just calibrated, nothing surprising

[leaden remnant]

i have some question if i want to play LT in Ratings and do only 2k dmg or less (in tier 8) but with 2k or more spotting/asistance damage will it be better than doing 3k dmg but with 500ish spotting/asisstance damage?
because i dont know exactly how rating points work

[worldly anvil]

They’re somewhat like base xp
The more damage, assistance, kills, spotting, etc you do, the more you gain

[pallid tendon]

Ratings is about xp.

In PC damage and spotting provides pretty much the same amount of xp but in blitz, assistamce damage (spotting+tracking) barely gives any xp so you are better of maximizing damage.

Keep in mind that you only maximize your points if you stay alive at the end of the battle.

[leaden remnant]

aight thanks mate

[ornate spoke]

I think there are others like me but personally Right now I only play rating battles to grind exp for the next tier tank

[vague oracle]

but being in 4.5k+ rating gives us with good players in both sides

nothing. it is just that it keeps me away from anger i get in normals.

[gilded flax]

what tanks did u use?

[drowsy bone]

.

[thin compass]

t22, but its pretty useless
take 140 or 62 and do better

[odd charm]

Im on 4k points in rating and I’ve been playing annihilator all day with it and still havent made any progress at all...what the f

[primal scroll]

You're playing a t7 tank in ratings, you're gonna get up tiered literally every time and anni has garbage pen

[odd charm]

that’s true. Especially against heavies at that tier. Then how can I get to 5k points?

[primal scroll]

Play broken t8 tanks like the emil 1

[odd charm]

dont have it. I really hate facing it

[daring loom]

Emil 1 is broken? Doesn’t really seem broken to come up against...

[gilded flax]

is stb1 fine? or the vickers light?, i only have them 2 and if so which one is better?

[primal scroll]

It has good bursting ability and is amazing hull down, if you're playing a light/med and can circle it then that's probably why you don't think it's that good

[daring loom]

Both are very good although I seem to prefer the vickers, but that’s just because it suits me a bit more than the stb does.

@primal scroll ah I see, makes sense now why it’s not too much of a pain for me then lol.

[gilded flax]

alright thanks :)

[primal scroll]

What tier 8s do you have?

[thin compass]

stb probs

[odd charm]

my prems at tier 8: 252u, action x, su-130pm and a few more

[primal scroll]

action x is very good and so is 252u you can use those

[odd charm]

I will try

[scarlet timber]

7 lose in a row

[daring loom]

Try a different tier?
Or just give it a break for now

[regal cosmos]

You won’t magically win a lot of battles when you’ve got the frustration from a loss streak and keep spamming more battles. Better to take a break and try playing again when you feel better

[scarlet timber]

yeah i just lose 30 points

[stuck vortex]

pls end hulldown era especially in rating battles

[regal cosmos]

Nerf the turret armor of all tanks ez

[wind light]

tier x is unplayable but tier 8 is ok

[delicate lodge]

Lol

[nova crane]

https://youtu.be/ExgsuWukyOg

[edgy pike]

Y cant I win ratings in this time

[woeful ocean]

https://youtu.be/i3R4xtnSE2A People in ratings... file to big for discord 🙄

[ornate spoke]

players are bad. period

[ornate spoke]

ich finde diese spielweise nicht toll

[tender cargo]

english

[mint moon]

🅰️ Lol
U can just translate that bro

@covert wind I mean u translate it and tell him to use English xD

[covert wind]

but the moderators can't translate everything if anybody writes in his own language

[ornate spoke]

He said, he doesn't like the playstile

[muted shuttle]

Time to move on guys 😉

[odd charm]

idk why Im still wasting my time on this game especially rating(trash)...

[agile sphinx]

And how many calibrating players were there?

[muted shuttle]

@glacial junco What's your issue?

[wraith token]

Mate, this is the WoTB English server, there are other servers for that persons native language

[muted shuttle]

@glacial junco Where did I prohibit anybody in this channel?

It wasn't me who muted, I'm fine with one sentence if it isn't spam.

[marsh cove]

did anyone receive dlc items?

[arctic ridge]

no

[flat jungle]

Tryna grind ratings from 4200 points

[ornate spoke]

GL bc im about to rage quit from these awful teams

[odd charm]

ikr

[daring parcel]

hello

[lime sparrow]

I would simply just carry

[tawny hinge]

Wow not bad

[crude belfry]

How much longer is the is6 gonna be listed as the diamond reward? I wanna grind for it but don't want to waste my time

[neat wind]

i won't lie, the 5 minute queue for a match in NA ratings really saps the fun out of it

[flat jungle]

Idk about this skill based mm, I keep getting the players with 0 skill

[lime sparrow]

I would simply just not calibrate

[ornate spoke]

Yes

[topaz chasm]

Well it was said that they are thinking of a new ratings reward tank, but Ribble ensured that a new tank would be announced in advance so you can still get the IS-6F @crude belfry

[cobalt quarry]

how does ratings point system work ? why are some players with a rating higher than me getting more points for less damage

[agile sphinx]

It's based off xp not damage

[cobalt quarry]

so is it true to say that light tanks are best for ratings ? and TDs worst ? since lights can do the spotting and earn xp

[high arch]

Spotting doesn’t earn that much xp, had a game today (tier 7) where I spotted 6/7, 2500 assistance damage and a bit of damage and didn’t get all that much. Game after that I do 2000 damage and 2 kills and I gain double.

[agile sphinx]

TDs can do damage easier than lights so it makes up for it, the best class is whatever you can play the best there's no one class better than others (except that it's extremely likely you'll be able to play heavies the best because of the stupid hp buffs)

[high arch]

Ye it’s down to personal preference. I prefer meds and tanks like a 50B etc. Still don’t like playing heavies

[agile sphinx]

Heavies tend to do better at low rating and meds at high ratings just to how different the game dynamics are when you have two bad teams against eachother and two good teams against eachother

[dusty kelp]

Farm hightier kills

I do in Anni..but today horrible teams (10/13 lost) then went tier x and won 8/9 lol...bit gain much less points then low tier in anni farming high tier kills

[cobalt quarry]

5k MMs are wierd, you get put into 3.5k very often and mostly the entire team is gold...its basically you vs the other 5k guy, who can do better

[crude belfry]

Thanks

[odd charm]

winning 5 rating battles in a row is a miracle

now back to losing again

[serene crystal]

Is Wg gonna drop anything else for the season coin or just that package for now

[forest grotto]

Hey, I just wanna ask, how can I get coins from rating battles?

[serene crystal]

Wim game when ur in plat or diamond

[crude belfry]

Do you earn more coins when in diamond?

[serene crystal]

Yes

[serene crystal]

Also is it just me or rating is easier this season. I fluff 200 battle cuz I wanted to mess around with the tank I hate and stuff, but I sit down today and actually try and I rlly went from 4100 to 4400 in less than 30min

[odd charm]

3 wins my last 10-12 games

[odd charm]

meanwhile Im trying being serious and still no real progress...

[tall radish]

Ratings needs to be fixed.... this person has 47% in ratings and still has platinum league... you shouldn’t be able to just play 600+ battles and get platinum league.... please fix this wg, this system is probably one of the worst systems ever

[serene crystal]

I was playing Emil 1, maybe that’s why, I was averaging 2.8-3.3k as well... I switch and play tank I hate now tho

Ya true, atst I’m playing an OP tank as well so that might be why. I’m just Messi around with tier 7 I hate now

[mellow robin]

quick stream snipe __Frostbite

[latent vault]

Only 5... imagine waiting for 28 minutes and then getting yoloyed and dying in less then 2 minutes

[lime sparrow]

I'd simply not die

[regal cosmos]

Don’t get yolod and you don’t die. The best way is to stay in the spawn for a few minutes so the enemies get killed by the teammates, and then you can leave the spawn and no one will yolo you

[regal cosmos]

Only pro players can do it. If you don’t have the skill you can’t use it effectively

5500 is where you are considered pro

[odd charm]

@glacial junco what tank do u usually play with?

I see

[tall radish]

This dude😂😂😂

[glass lantern]

i play rating battles with IS-7. Anyone else ?

[ember halo]

Same

[delicate lodge]

I came to the same conclusion

[pallid tendon]

Then dont spot.

Outside of CW light tanks arent spotters, they are damage dealers with excellent camo ratings and mobility which can flank.

Spotting in Blitz is pretty usless is most situations as maps are small enough that Mediums and Heavies can spot so just weaponize your camo and mobility

[thick pecan]

i once waited 600 minutes (it was normal mm in t34 tho)

[amber sparrow]

10 hour matchmaking be like

[regal cosmos]

I like being on EU now

[high arch]

I used that game I happened to play that day as an example. My spotting was the result of a meh team camping on canyon while I took the middle hill alone. I was unable to peek and aim, but able to spot and get spot damage. That’s a 1/1000 game where spotting “works”. Also not complaining or anything (wasn’t even in a light), just stating that xp is eh for xp with said example

[ornate spoke]

I just got 10coin what is it for ?

[versed orchid]

special offers in the shop

[ornate spoke]

Ok thanks :) I dont see any offers maybe they will come later :)

[lime sparrow]

@latent vault why you gotta be so angry lol, we still won

[latent vault]

Idc

[lime sparrow]

lol k

[snow surge]

Surprised everyone isn't yelling at each other about whether or not rating battles are broken, like usual

[ornate spoke]

full health emil 2 has a oneshot conq and two shot t26a that i am 1v2ing and what does he do, doesnt help me, sits on A cap and tries to snipe. causes the loss

NICE!!!! every time i get back on ratings to try to win games, i win one and then go on a massive loss streak. Have a feeling the MM is rigged

[ornate spoke]

good luck winning when you do 5.1k dmg and get 6-0ed with your team calling you a nub and second damage being 1600

[native marten]

idk man that sounds harder than complaining

breaking news: local man has created an absolutely revolutionary method that's GUARANTEED to stop you from complaining

[serene crystal]

It was fine for me today, I went up 300 in an hour and a half. 4300 to 4600

[keen moon]

TheDemigod#1000 has been warned.

[ember halo]

Hit the axe on my own foot didn't I

[pallid flicker]

!p ching chang hon

[tepid copper]

This chat is based on a friend in our clan who was banned from WG for the reason of rigging in the rating battle. actually we want to ask what reasons or determinative indications that it can be categorized as rigged? Is it based on the language during chat in battle? Is it because the dmg is low or are we not aiming for our classmates who at that time became enemies? Or maybe it's just because the jealousy of other players is because they have low rating points and lack of ability, who happen to often meet us during battle and lose? so report us on a rigging basis. or what? the funny thing is, the one who determines the matchmaking is you. if in battle we meet our teammates, let's say it reaches 3-4 clan mates, after all, the one who unites and determines to be friends and opponents is you too. If the reason is low dmg, does WG know the so-called ping which suddenly becomes high and game lags and even loses connection. or other technical matters. If it is said because of the language during chat battles, has WG ever interpreted it? and the chat facility is provided by you.
I think you have replays and complete match data, because you did not confirm beforehand to the player when deciding and sanctioning the player. @wargaming @warm seal

[honest dust]

Dude, if you dont aim at the enemy or go out of your way to Not shoot them, thats rigging. Period. Very simple. It doesnt matter what the matchmaker does. The matchmaker in ratings is supposed to match people with similar rating points (skill based matchmaking) and such that Teams are composed out of the same class tanks. Its Not supposed to put clanmates together. Especially since that can be rigging as well as clans often have voice Chat possibilities which is an unfair advantage (thats why tooning in ratings is Not allowed, as well as count ins into battle). So pull your head out of your ass, you basically admit to rigging the battle by Not shooting particular enemies. Its Not the matchmakers fault you dont Stick to the rules. Its yours. And that needs to be sanctioned. Point. Out. End.

[honest dust]

And to the other Things you said: the customer Service usually views all replays and Material provided by the Person who sent the Ticket. You dont get banned if someone gives you a thumbs down(mostly). Rigging can only be reported via a ticket to the customer Service. And that requires a replay. If someone reports you for rigging games and there is no evidence on doing so, you wont get sanctioned. Do you really think people will write a ticket for rigging just bc they have low rating points (also, whats your point count? I would like to compare). Some players might give you a thumbs down after a battle, but thats Not the same as writing a ticket that gets you banned. Also, WG doesnt need to confirm with the Player what He has done or what his Intentions where, especially when Not shooting particular enemy tanks or when saying stuff in Chat. You accepted the rules and that WG can issue bans if they think da rulez were broken. What you are trying now is wieseling your way out of a ban when you already admitted to breaking the rules. So a good advice: grow a pair and keep on playing in a civilized way or stop playing.

[tepid copper]

Exactly why you light me up inside
Like the 4th of July whenever your around i always seem to smile.

Wait sorry. it's the song lyrics.

Exactly, but we do that, we did, shoot each other, kill each other. I mean, I am asking for any indication that causes a player to be banned under the rigging category. so that something like that can be avoided.

And as your explanation, if you just don't shoot a friend, it's categorized as rigging, then what about focusfire, focus on low HP. because it can make us not shoot friends, but we prioritize other players who are on the target FF and low Hp.

[honest dust]

First off all, there is the possibility to appeal to a ban. But the official Portal is made for that, you can issue basically a ticket to revoke your ban. You will most likely Not get a Different answer from any official Account Here on discord as no one knows the Accounts involved. So your banned buddy should just use the official Portal and appeal against (? Against? Preposition Bingo...) the ban.

[tepid copper]

Yup. Hes tryin that.

[honest dust]

About the rigging: i had an example case of rigging where two clanmates in opposing teams did not shoot each other in the end. The game ended on a draw. I. Have also seen players blocking teammates, killing themselves by drowning in the end, etc. For all the other cases: like i said the WG customer Service watches the replays. Focus fire, target selection etc... Its difficult to find out what is rigging there and what isnt. Most of the time i would assume its when in doubt dont ban or punish. When you want to, send me the replay. I would actually like to see it. However i am Not an WG official, i may just give my own opinion, which is by no means a Basis for an appeal, it just might be interesting if a third Party would See a rigging or Not.

[regal cosmos]

Did your clanmates count in during ratings? Or was it just luck and small queues that they ended up in the same battles?

[agile sphinx]

Calibration got harder? 90% WR and 3385 avg makes this feel a little low 😦

[lament forge]

And blurred version.

[dusty kelp]

Lol

[agile sphinx]

I tried to reduce the file size to something that my WiFi could handle uploading but it looks like it didn't work lol

[flat jungle]

The higher you go the more WG expects you to carry teams, almost to 5k and it's getting bad

[serene crystal]

For the rigging discussion, me and my clanmste told each other to grind rsting together, we dont VC and do countdown but occasionally we get on the same games. The thing is, we stil try to get each other out. In fact we tunnel Esch other because we both know what leuge we’re in and the average matchmaking in rating, we are usually the best in the team. We don’t rlly count down or anything but ppl sometime rage in chat saying that we’re rigging. What do you think of this @honest dust. Sometime multiple of us get in the same game together (pure luck and doesn’t happen everyday, mostly weekend when we all are free and is grid#nding)

[honest dust]

Counting into battles with the intend of rigging the end result is the punishable offense. Especially on small Servers, when clanmates play ratings in the same tier, they will be in a match together. When you play the game like its a normal enemy/ teammate (or an enemy where you know you need to take them out fast bc you know they are good), i dont See anything wrong with it. I can understand how people say its rigging as they only See the same clantag and expect you to Do shady stuff, just bc of past experiences. Getting stuck in a match together is Not rigging. Changing your behavior or way of playing to influence the outcome bc you are stuck in the same Match, especially when its in a negative way, is rigging.

[serene crystal]

Exactly, I don’t wanna to tell each of my clan mate to play different tier so that other doesn’t point finger at us for rigging mg even tho we’re not. Because in the end I want us to play the tier we’re confertsble with

[zenith trellis]

Why are there still ghost shots in rating?

[ornate spoke]

countdowns really aren't a problem, the problem is when clanmates or friends intentionally lose games for each other or give each other free damage

[tepid copper]

This is not about count.

Well, let's say in a clan there are 5 players who play ratings together. and the five players have different rating points. If we adhere to what @honest dust said, "The matchmaker in ratings is supposed to match people with similar rating points (skill based matchmaking)" it means logically, even if we intend to do a countdown to meet in the same battle, it is unlikely that this will happen. . because our rating points are different. isn't that the logic?

[honest dust]

No. Especially when very few people play or during the beginning of the season it can still be very likely you will end in the same Match

[sharp path]

@flat jungle there is more teanplay at 3k rating than it is at or before 5k

[honest dust]

press X for doubt
So you consider a Team of mostly headless chicken running around without a Plan "team play"? 😄

[rustic wagon]

No, after 5k theres players who trying to maximize point you get and minimize the loss. The way points are given its easy to understand why selfish gameplay > teamplay

[agile sphinx]

You definitely get more teamplay at high ratings. Low ratings is literally just randoms or worse. High ratings you have everyone wanting to win initially, and then everyone playing selfishly when it looks like it might be a loss. You also come across the occasional player who will go for the win even when it looks to be difficult to get.

[sharp path]

@honest dust if you say it like this,no. But everyone around the 5k Mark are Minding their own buisness with no intend to help the others. Just farm the dmg they need,but go no,everything but risking a few shots to help a teammate wich is needed for the match

[honest dust]

That is simply Not true. When you are a good Player and in a Team with others who you consider to be good, i might Not help you in a 1v1 if you are across the map and i have a fight to win myself. I wont go out of my Position to help you bc i know my Position might be vital when we want to have a Chance to win. And if you are out of Position, for example you yolo into 3 enemy tanks alone, i will Not help you and die with you there. Good players usually assess the situation and make decisions accordingly. I for myself go for the savest play with the highest possible payoff for the team. I want to win and i will sacrifice some damage for it if it means securing the win. But as soon as i realize we will Not win bc someone is just completely out of Position or the enemy Team is just better, i will try to minimize the possible point loss and stay alive and farm damage.

Team play does Not mean we only go 2v1 on every enemy, but everyone in the team knows his Individual Job and does it and THEN if you need help i will help you gladly WHEN Im done doing my Job.

[sharp path]

@honest dust Im aware of that,but i mean the Players that could move in such a Position to help the team,but instead decide to farm the dmg of an afk as example. Or Just plain noobs who dont take part in the active battle

[honest dust]

I find These kind of players to be fewer the higher your Ranking goes. I will farm and AFK as well if i know i have the time and He might come back to life. But like i said, i will happily sacrifice some damage to help the team win more comfortably. Usually those that only farm damage will Lose more games if farming is Not their Job. However there are tanks who are made for farming and nothing Else, like the Fv4202, thats basically their Job.

[ornate spoke]

fact is that high level ratings is supposed to consist of better players (which is doesnt all the time) but still has noobs

Why E5 don’t have much credits to receive every time

[zinc ravine]

Because tier 10s are not meant to make credits apart from some premium tier 10s and collector tier 10s

[honest dust]

Bc the economy in Blitz is made such that tier 10s are no Credit earners (apart from some Premiums and collectables). WG has said that before and that they wont change it.

[ornate spoke]

These tanks right? which have a ping are not easy to earn credits . I just need more credits, I don’t have enough. Wish there is a very very good money making in tech tree. Anyways when the obj260 and 907 come

[honest dust]

Basically everything in tier10 has a Bad Credit coefficient. Even the Premiums have only a 140% one. Also, the t-22 med and the m60 have Bad Credit coefficients as well. If you wanna earn credits, play tier8 Premiums. There is a forum post with all the Credit coefficients. The higher, the better. http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/58556-updated-credit-earnings-for-65-missing-a-few-new-tanks/page__fromsearch__1

[ornate spoke]

I guess I have the vk90 and the Amx 30 b which they are good money maker

[rustic wagon]

T95E6 and badger have highest credit income %

[ornate spoke]

I have both actually but I don’t play them cuz just not my style

[ornate spoke]

e5 is especially an awful credit maker for some reason, likely because people run super speed boost and adrenaline on it

[ornate spoke]

Ye use E5 for improving stats

[gilded flax]

they've been there for like a week now

[gilded flax]

not about the wr, its about the spotting, damage, damage assistance etc

[odd charm]

op

[regal cosmos]

rip enemy

[odd charm]

we lost... and I realized I got wrecked by IS-fearless

[unborn nova]

When do we have new game mode where only tech tank are allowed

[desert valley]

Not happening

[unique delta]

I calibrated in bronze league 🥴

[primal scroll]

pain

[desert valley]

All my homies know is pain

[primal scroll]

yep, had a bad day today 😔, ill just try again tmr ig

[crude belfry]

yeah I started bad but then recovered to my previous

[uncut lichen]

50% minimum to enter

[flat jungle]

I swear I'm 100 points off 5k and the teams get worse and worse, I've resorted to anni spamming, which seems to be working

[daring loom]

Oof I wish I was that close to 5k
I’m still only on 4.3k

[crude belfry]

I'm at 4.4 starting to get difficult, probably should just go back to emil spam

[serene loom]

You won with an Second Class master badge and did the most damage even with 2 people who were useless.

What a legend. Give this guy respect.

[cinder cargo]

Bruh raitings is just a meta/broken tanks spam(i use obj 252, progetto and emil1) but god dam the WT is super annoying now Whit that spall liner

[opaque edge]

Why is it supper annoying? Don't use HE if your caliber is small?

My issue is that rating battles (for example yesterday whole evening) were always one sided. Not a single game was close or "interesting". I lost 6 in a row with results like 1-6, 0 - 7 and etc... lost over 200 rating. I know some games you win, some games you loose, but more and more I see games where people just have no idea and/or play purely for themselves.

I personally think guys like "Happy" (Youtuber) influences people to play for Damage and avoid any help to your teammate what so ever by conserving HP where he could take a hit or two for you. Instead they just poke, reload, poke again. This is especially annoying if they run a big chunky heavy...

Just imho above...

[inner berry]

Selfish Maus players in ratings 😔

[outer spruce]

Honestly conserving HP is the way to go, can't blame anyone for that. Having full hp late game can be an absolute game changer, there's no need to push and take unnecessary shots if your team's not going with you. Just chill out and try to camp harder than your team, as team play is not really a thing in ratings. The way I see it the 6 teammates you get are just meatshields most of the time

[agile sphinx]

^ this is exactly how not to play ratings

Having full hp late game is useless if you did nothing early game. Sometimes that costs hp. You will win much much more if you actually play well instead of trying to farm off everyone, and winning more is the best way to get points. If you play selfishly you might a few extra points per win but you will be winning a lot less. It's a team game so play as part of a team. What use is having full hp if you are in a 1v5 🤷‍♀️

[honest dust]

Lol. Classic misplay. While there are tanks that should defo conserve HP (basically everything without any armor or trading capability, Best example is Leopard 1), in a Maus or e100 you are the hitpoint pinata. You can still survive 10 shots with your armor, even if you are a one shot. If you camp the entire battle in every tank with the Plan of swooping in in the end to win the Match, sorry, but u R a moron and will most likely Lose Matches more than you win. Good players know when to wager their HP, when to take shots for the team, when it is a good trade to take one shot to get into a game winning Position. I hope to god i dont have to play with people like you. Also, pls dont give players here such advice, every good Player (and im not saying im good, and even i know you are wrong) will Tell you that thats BS

[opaque edge]

That guy just proved my point...

[inner berry]

Well i know who i defo dont want as a teamate in ratings now

[outer spruce]

Yes, I was talking from a MT player perspective. I agree that heavies are to be played frontline, but there's still exceptions. If all your team camps, there's no point in moving forward, you'll just die first. Back to the thing I was trying to say about MTs: one or two shots can make a difference between life and death there. So especially for inexperienced players/players with poor tactical awarness, you should play safe. Taking those unnecessary shots early game will only make the enemy more confident in pushing you, and you'll die earlier.

[honest dust]

After 3 losses in a Tank i change tank and tier, after 5 losses in a row i let the game Rest for a bit. Sometimes teams are just Not good, luck isnt on your side and you dont play your best. Let it Rest for an hour and come back later

[honest dust]

Well, i have seen your Stats, you are a very good Player, no doubt, also much better than I am (even when im 95% Sure its a reroll 😉😄). But when you give advice like that before you need to Tell people how its meant, that you are talking about Medium tanks etc. Its like one guy on Middleburg giving the command "i go A" and then says its Not his fault his Team followed him and lost bc He only said He will go A. If a newer Player read your Statement that Camping is the way, it could be totally misleading for them. Also, while you are right that rushing if your Team is Camping isnt a good idea, you can still make Sure to have their Cover while spotting for them, going into save positions while slowly advancing etc. Playing ratings more carefully might be a good idea if you See yourself losing a lot, yes. But only hiding is Not the way.

[opaque edge]

I always fail to follow this advise. I keep telling myself: do another one, it will be better, it's just a bad streak, do one more and I end up with 3 wins, 7 lost games 😄

[honest dust]

Well, i Do that too sometimes, especially when i need something like "one more heavy kill" for a Mission. But you will just end up losing and getting frustrated 😄 sometimes you just need to let it go.
Edit: did it yesterday in fact, lost 110 rating points in 30 Minutes bc i just wanted the Mission 😄😄

[outer spruce]

Yeah I'm no good at making calls, I'll admit it. That's why I choose to play passive most of the time, and it works. It's too much effort trying to teach and make orders for every player in my team, and it distracts from making the right decisions myself. So I just take it easy, see what they do and adapt. There's times when even this fails (if I'm in a slow tank and get left behind by my team), but most of the time it's much easier to control the flow of the game this way. Also, just in case you're wondering, no I'm no reroll, I just played WoT PC before Blitz, that's where I learned basic tactics. That and the fact that I platoon quite often.

[opaque edge]

That is funny, I lost biggest chunk of my rating exactly yesterday evening as well. Most of last calibration period. I think it was in a range of 200.

[honest dust]

Hm im good at making calls and bringing myself into Position, but then the team decides to Do something i would Not Do and i could be stuck in an unsolvable problem 😄 i am truly good with TDs bc it allows me to control the game and anticipate where the enemy goes, when i need to wager HP and push up etc. But who isnt good in a WT? 😄 I still have much to learn, i enjoy playing ratings from time to time, especially when there arent headless chicken players running around. The Best advice to win more rating games is most likely "play a good Tank" 😄
Nevermind, i dont care if its a reroll, luitka2 just sounds like its the second Account 😉.

[outer spruce]

The story behind the "2" in my name is that I used to always forget the password of my first account 😄

[honest dust]

Haha 👌 😄 maybe i will Hit you up in the game, we both play on EU as far as im aware, im Dr__Trax, maybe you can carry me sometimes 😉😄

[flat jungle]

Man you guys love smiley faces, nothing's wrong with that just saying

[versed orchid]

realistic battles (kinda, fake tanks arent allowed)

[tropic stag]

Wg on ratings description "Fight against an equally opponents" my ass

[glacial junco]

Uhm... conclusion from that would be that WG is very inglish

[odd charm]

4 losses in a row what a pain the the azz..

[regal cosmos]

Equal rating not equal WR. Rating isn’t hard to get with low skill

Spam battles you increase points

[odd charm]

may I ask what isnt hard about rating?

[primal scroll]

If your teams bad even spamming still doesn't work very well

[thick sorrel]

I was asia top in march 🙂

[quaint needle]

Nice

[deft vigil]

,

[ornate spoke]

was that sarcastic or legit lmao, I can't tell

[tropic stag]

@regal cosmos legit on silver rank and matched up with 3 diamond enemy 💀

[regal cosmos]

Theres not enough players in ranked battles to stop that from happening completely

[undone pulsar]

Because most people don’t want to play ranked lol

[old gulch]

I just Got 5 M In Rating This week

[heady pilot]

Perhaps distributing more rewards might become a solution to increase players playing ranked. Rewards doesn’t need to be too generous, but enough for people to find worth in competing over with. Such that when a player wasn’t able to get within a certain threshold for certain rewards, least he gets a smaller variety of rewards that makes his commitment at least be rewarded.

[opaque edge]

But it is sometimes interesting to play against much stronger player, you usually learn from him wrecking you so easy 🙂
I play rating with tanks I need to research faster coz it gives you more Base EXP vs Random battles (often)

[woeful ocean]

????

When I lost doing 4k = -20 points

[agile sphinx]

At high ratings you gain and lose a lot less points

[graceful arrow]

Its harder to gain points in those range
I personally enjoy those rating( plus 5k more than any other I seem to grind points much better)

[opaque edge]

That poor T62 was probably rushed by meds 😄 Edit: B-C and one Med... hm... or went too aggro on the e5 SuperConq 😄

[woeful ocean]

Nah, they went all mid on vineyard while ou heavies gone mid and we flanked from ruins

Isn't it too less, Like I understand diamond you can lose less and win less, but 4?

Like it's no big risk losing on diamond I see, I lose 3 on platiunum and get -100.

[agile sphinx]

You can gain 45+ points on a win at lower ratings whereas a win at 6k is probably +5/6 points so progress is just very slow

The points system is awful because the only way to progress is pure battle spamming and having more than 40% WR which doesn't show skill at all, but that's how it works

[woeful ocean]

MM is awful

[minor dust]

^

[opaque edge]

In your opinion what type of a tank (heavy, medium, light or TD) has biggest potential to influence battle in capable driver hands?

[chilly hemlock]

SA

[odd charm]

I was at 4800 point yeaterday and I been losing ever since.... Now Im at 4600 . I cant tell u how frustrated i am-.

[opaque edge]

I am losing Rating for 3 days in a row... Was around 3700, now around 3400... Maybe today I'll to better

[odd charm]

rating sucks. All I want is to reach the diamond league just once. Seems like I have to suffer a bit longer

[woeful ocean]

Medium and light can do lot on battlefield, but you need to be really really good in them and feel confident enough. If not, good armor heavy or 600dmg TD

[weary robin]

!

[blissful grail]

+22 on lose

[flat jungle]

That's what happens when the team sucks but you do well

[serene crystal]

Bruh I’m at 4.7k rating and yesterday I had a 4.5k dmg game at tier 8 ... lost and +2

[spare pawn]

Can we get the trolls out of rating battles Wargaming? Had a 0... literally 0 military honor just trolling our entire team during rating battles. Maybe start by having that system actually mean something

[queen lichen]

Uh

[keen moon]

Lentzyyy#1281 was muted

Lentzyyy#1281 was softbanned

[undone pulsar]

Sadly they’re a valued customer just like you to them

[lime sparrow]

I mean. . . just let them buy their stuff, and **then **yeet them out the game. They'll just buy stuff again on another acc so WG's still going to get their money.

[rancid plover]

For EU or NA server players, are 2000- players frequently on ur team when u are 5000+?

[hollow oasis]

yeah... welcome in rating battles... thats why i stoped playing it..

[rancid plover]

How many players are in queue generally? (EU)

[hollow oasis]

i dont know...

[odd charm]

?????

[regal cosmos]

Higher rating. You earn less and also lose less. Its also not entirely dependent on damage dealt

[odd charm]

I see

[stone current]

Is bease. Enemy get bease.

[odd charm]

I have been stuck on 4600-4700 points in the last 4-5 days. what am I supposed to do? -.-

[crimson agate]

play better? xD

[odd charm]

:/