#rating-battles

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rose path
regal cosmos
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Gib keys for inconvenience pls

hot geode
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rating is so good

rose path
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If this is the same sys admin that decided to use Openresty for auction fair, I'd love to hear from him 👁️

tranquil grove
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WG I am not here to complain about rating, as I play it for the credits, but damn WG the teams are trash. Lost 4 Battles in a row on T10 making (-4,+4,+8,-2) like wtf. I don’t really mind losing, but dang I don’t wanna play 1hr for a win or two.
It is just so tiring to do almost 4k dmg and the second best player doing barely 1k, not talking about at least 2 guys with 0 or almost 0dmg. Meanwhile the enemy having everyone over 1,5k dmg
What kind of MM is this ?

elfin burrow
violet meteor
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XD

ornate spoke
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They should put credit bonus and increase the XP bonuses for Ratings.

regal cosmos
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Their article mentions credit bonuses but I’m not sure if I’m really getting any bonus. It doesn’t show it separately and i seem to make the same amount of credits each battle, while in 4k rating

midnight lark
floral dock
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Theres xp bonus but I dont think theres credit

midnight lark
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In wgs news it says that there are both

floral dock
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Says it but no clue if you actually get it, doesn’t say you are getting a bonus for it so I’d assume not

midnight lark
civic comet
worldly anvil
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because he's a higher rank, and loses less

civic comet
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I see, thanks!

lime sparrow
floral dock
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Rating should prohibit multiple people from the same clan on the same team

zinc ravine
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Why
All that’s gonna do is make players do more countdowns in ratings

floral dock
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It would make countdowns pointless if the goal is the same team

zinc ravine
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Nobody plays for the team in ratings because it’s all about the getting kills, and damage to earn more points

undone pulsar
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I know that nobody from Wg will read this and actually implement it, so with that being said, let me give a few suggestions.

Make ratings 5v5. First and foremost there’s not enough players. Shrink the team size and shrink the queue time. Pretty easy to figure out that you also cut the maps down in size. You know. Like skirmish

Separate the leagues for the love of god. There is no reason that in one game there are 4 different leagues. Silver should not be playing against play platinum and diamond players. What is the point of having different leagues if they don’t adjust who you play against?

Ditch supremacy with the smaller maps. Make the games about brawling and actual teamwork.

Top person on the losing doesn’t go down in points. If anything, they should potentially go up slightly if they carry a bad team

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It’s pretty obvious that ratings has never been nor will ever be a priority, and that’s disappointing considering that making adjustments could lead to a very worth while mode. At this point most people know blitz competitive is quite good. With some tweaks, ratings could be too

normal bay
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If only they’d do that

rose path
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Have they fixed the leaderboard database yet? I wanna get cracking on finishing my Ratings script

rancid salmon
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It takes too long to get a match. It's tiring and time wasting

wraith iron
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the leagues were not meant to make mm fair in the first place

rancid salmon
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If you can't make a quality match, I'd ask you to make it faster. We all know the teams in rating ain't anything better than regular

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TBH the rating is just about farming, it's not making teams more effective, no one learns to be real pro, and it's an electing of farm machines

warm charm
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most of the problems in ratings can be solved by having a larger ratings playerbase, but obviously that isnt happening because theres no real incentive to play (literally all u get is a camo and an avatar, and if u no life myb a tank and some gold). If wg gives better incentives to attract more players to play ratings then the gamemode will do fine

rancid salmon
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It's a whole system is ranking all players even in regular mode, they know who is a better player already, it's pointless ask players to get a rating in other mode that has a even worse matchmaking. Give us the reward or make a difference team battle in rating mode

wraith iron
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is6 fearless and gold is already a good enough incentive

rancid salmon
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Funny then why is no one playing? Willing or not you are already rated by the server, in a more comprehensive way. With rating mode not making a better team fight, I'd say the whole rating mode is pointless, rewards won't make it any sense

floral dock
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They should add special missions for rating that leads up to some tier X mission exclusive collector tank. Kind of like campaigns in WoT PC. It would start out easy like finish calibration battles, and could move to things like getting kills, doing damage, and getting xp in rating battles. Along with getting to a certain rating number in the later missions. Along the way to the big prize of the Tier X tank you would get things like premium time, gold, free xp, credits, garage slots, special camos, avatars, and maybe even some sort of crate that has a chance to drop a random premium tank. This would give rating more incentives and would increase the player base and make the matchmaker function better, or make it so they could implement an actually good matchmaker.

rancid salmon
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Just leave it, all I want is a qualited match. I'm tired of killing noobs in both reg and rating. If the game isn't different then all rewards are joke

sturdy needle
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Me and iRaik did share a few battles yesterday, and boy oh boy was it interesting.
First game we had we lost 7-0.
Second game I went against him and they lost 7-0.
Third game he's on my team, and then we lose 7-0.

copper mauve
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iRaik unlucky confirmed?

rose path
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Maybe try dual T57 heavys and see if that has win streaks

floral fern
rose path
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@floral fern Everyone in EU so far, still hasn't been fixed

floral fern
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Nah... Not good

regal cosmos
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They’re celebrating rn. Drunk on vodka after releasing crates for crates and wondering how they can put more crates within crates

sturdy needle
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Its like a matryoshka doll
Theres a doll inside a doll inside a doll inside a doll, etc

frank widget
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but you can never reassemble it

rain gulch
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man im so sick of this, 5 minutes queue time for a 2 minute game, WG really needs to rework ratings

true ridge
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Someone made some great suggestions for changes, like downsizing battles, which would decrease queues, among other things

ornate spoke
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It’s takes me up to 1 min to get rating battle

half badge
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oh no, a minute, a travesty

warm charm
queen socket
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Pro

slender plinth
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test

rancid salmon
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We got only one way brain nubs, even at 5k. All they do is let team die and farm points: yes they do get better points losing with dmg. My word is to never seek for a good fight in rating, it's worse and tougher than reg.

pale ravine
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It's all fun and games until a 5k went toxic and start trolling in a rating match

loud creek
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@pale ravine absolutely its like every day things from 4.5k to5k +

ornate spoke
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This chat smells of sweat and disappointment.

stoic oracle
undone pulsar
small gyro
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Ratings is pubs that don't count toward your stats

rose path
dark zephyr
warm charm
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Not sure how many battles you have, but if you have 50 at each tier you'll get the purple and gold camo

dark zephyr
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I have 50 at tier 8 but not at tier X. So will I get it for the Lowe only or all tier 8 I played?

regal cosmos
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Only for the Lowe, as that is the most played tank in that tier. And for 4k rating it’s the purple and gold camo as said above

viscid moth
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I just stopped by to say that putting the diamond league camo in platinum league after years was a spit in the rating players face
Right between their eyes

regal cosmos
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I hate more that they removed that Black and Red camo. Looked better to me than the current platinum league camo

feral fiber
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The current platinum one is fine imo. The diamond one looks sick

stuck kernel
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what tank you would like to see the Diamond on? I can show you what it looks like if i have it @feral fiber

feral fiber
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I have the diamond camo lol

stuck kernel
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I have it on quite a number of tanks 🙂

feral fiber
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Good for you, i stop playing rating cus im busy with life

sturdy needle
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Me and iRaik are now racing for diamond league, lol

glacial bison
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I usually settle for plat bc school exists

rancid salmon
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Guess regular players don't recognize the rating camo, instead of showing off I want them to look nice

rancid salmon
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Literally over 10mins I feel like I was forgotten.

rancid salmon
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I can send two messages here while waiting for the queue😅

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Any developers here to stop keeping me out of the game?

agile sphinx
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"Heavy hp buffs didn't affect the meta much" - someone who has never played tier 8 ratings

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ruby rune
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Hit plat for the first time ever (been playing since start of december last year). Is plat to diamond less stressful because slightly less braindead team mates get through gold?

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glossy raptor
ruby rune
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@glossy raptor think diamond is doable with my stats on 252u?

frank widget
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diamond is doable with 0% winrate so yes

glossy raptor
tall oar
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Lol

regal cosmos
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The WR gets reset at the end of the season and no one will see the WR again

glossy raptor
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Yes, but if he thinks that his wr will remain the same throughout the entire season while hes getting higher, hes wrong cuz it wont and he might need to battle more to reach his goal than he thinks

sturdy needle
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Keep in mind that for some reason in the 4900-4999 range your point gain goes significantly down, earning only abt 10-15 points for what you would normally get 20-30 points for.
Why is this? Who knows, probably another outdated mechanic in ratings

glossy raptor
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The higher u get the less u gain and lose

sturdy needle
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Ok, but what purpose does that serve?
The point gain system is already scuffed as it is, you can do 5k at t10 and still lose points. So what does a smaller point gain mechanic do then, other than just annoying people? If that's to simulate skill progression, then its a redundant and ineffective way to implement it.
Maybe if WG listened to their community then ratings would be actually competitive again...

glossy raptor
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Idk what it really does

fringe flicker
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Are you able to start at 4K after calibration?

ruby rune
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If you play well enough

median wagon
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Yes very possible

round skiff
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seen some calibrating like 4.4k
never achieved over 3.5k myself as i'm at most a low unicum but you totally can

muted shuttle
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@round skiff Change your status please)

hollow python
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why i play in this sh... rating and every battle meet 2-3 40 wr bots when i have 4750??????

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess swagie#8003 has been warned.

sturdy needle
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mods are ruthless lmao

ruby rune
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@round skiff i calibrated at 3600 my first month playing and 2900 this month lol, cba to go for diamind tho i'm happy with getting a plat camo

eternal patio
unreal kernel
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You have no idea how mad I am right now, but at least I didnt lose points LOL

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worldly anvil
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Is 4k supposed to be a good game

ornate spoke
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Wow a pretty intense battle for t6-7

zinc ravine
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Pretty sure that’s a tier 12-13 battle

ornate spoke
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Oh my bad

rose path
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I was about to say somethin earlier but I think its best to keep to myself

glossy raptor
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You won, be happy

civic comet
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But next time lose ,and same MM

round skiff
tulip surge
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why it's so complicate last 100 points for go to diamant 😭

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess swagie#8003 was muted

ebon hornet
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Why this game have slow reload time? Unrealistic i just hate reload time and......buff td dpm 🤔

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess Vladimir Putin#2976 has been warned.

ebon hornet
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Why you warn me😒

cedar bramble
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Wrong channel

ebon hornet
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-_-

glossy raptor
ebon hornet
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.

zinc ravine
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Well the reloads for TDs such as any TD with a 150mm is actually quite fast compared to that of real life and if you want a more realistic game why won’t you just go play War Thunder

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess Vladimir Putin#2976 was muted

hollow python
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#RemoveMinesMapFromRating

ornate spoke
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mines is just whoever has more hulldown tanks wins. boring map, when you lose the hill you lose the game, just how that map works. just from my experiences

glossy raptor
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To top it of, its too small

stoic oracle
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This game mode is just irrevelant and needs to be completely reworked

ornate spoke
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agree to an extent

feral fiber
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I would only play rating for camo

ornate spoke
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F

rancid salmon
agile sphinx
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When you realise that everyone has forgotten about making ratings tier 10 only :(

turbid nacelle
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I am still at 4070 lmao

rancid salmon
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While I'm playing on my new account with top tier being 8😅 thankfully not only tierX

rose path
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EU leaderboard database finally fixed?

turbid nacelle
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@rancid salmon u seems as a super pro player: what tanks do u use in ranked?

hollow python
true ridge
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Pain.

tranquil solstice
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Can we not let ppl with less than like 5k battles in ratings because there are so many people who just buy a t10 and think they are suddenly the best player in the world

warm grail
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Nice

hollow python
keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess _Bounced#8965 has been warned.

storm lodge
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@ornate spoke HI

ornate spoke
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@everyone hi people

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sory

proper crest
ruby rune
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@hollow python what tanks do you play in each tier? Heavies or med/light?

hollow python
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i can play any tank

ruby rune
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@hollow python what do you have most games played this season in eack teir

wind hinge
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Hi

cloud aurora
rancid salmon
lime sparrow
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u still get decent credits from winning
higher league placements mean better credit boosts

mental harness
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Is the ISU 152 good in ratings

rancid salmon
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But the queue takes usually more than 4 mins, and battles are way harder in rank, which means I can't expect any efficiency in rating

mental harness
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Never had it take over a minute

lime sparrow
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isu152's team dependant

hollow python
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@ruby rune 50 t10, 50 t9, 58 t8, 45 t7

proper crest
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what rewards do you get for the diamond league?

native marten
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@proper crest diamond league avatar, a 5k camo on your most played tank of every tier from t7-t10 (needs 50 battles though), and parts for is6f depending on which server you play on (idk the specifics for that and it’s different for every server)

proper crest
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Ok thank you for help

crisp granite
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Hm

proper crest
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I think you can get is 6 more

crisp granite
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I'm gonna start playing ratings to try and get the is6
How hard is it

small pagoda
elfin burrow
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I got IS6 from weekly container this week. So my interest in Ratings is greatly reduced.

crisp granite
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Lol

tender mason
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I'm i think 82th and i want to say that Matchmaking is enormous where i am ! Average wiating time is 2 min

hollow python
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what rewards do you get for the diamond league?
@proper crest avatar and 3 kamos, on chimera t22 abd amx 30 prot

tranquil grove
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Best Rating Tanks per Tier ?

hollow python
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Annihilator, Emil l, Wt Pz 4, Vickers

feral fiber
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Anni/smasher, t54e2, chimera or pog, vick cr, is4 or e5 imo

ruby rune
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Nah obj252

worldly anvil
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when you get a higher rating, usually around diamond, use heaviums like the e50m or 215b
people spam meds and lights around there

ornate spoke
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@sterile lily

ruby rune
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@worldly anvil e5?

coarse badger
worldly anvil
tranquil grove
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Why on Earth do I get -10 Points WG ??? I even decapped the base at 90 or so ? WG I want an explanation for this
-10 for All that work ? -10 ?

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frank widget
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Yeah the decapping is kinda badly designed in rating cuz of this

tranquil grove
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I mean the me decapping the base cost me 1000 HP, I still did it so we have a chance to win, in the End it did not matter as I was in a 1vs1 as oneshot, but dang WG why -10, I mean next time I just let them cap, Would probably have gotten less minus then or sth.

glossy raptor
tranquil grove
# glossy raptor Did u camp? In case u did that gives u less points aka more minus

I mean I was at most 150m away from the enemy if that is camping yeah... I mean next time I try to go for Spotting next time dying with 600dmg and getting -1 maybe that works
It is just if I hadn’t decapped the game would been over, but WG seems to not reward teamwork in any way. Next time I ll just go away 400m do nothing chilling in my tent getting same minus probably.

velvet ginkgo
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Why on Earth do I get -10 Points WG ??? I even decapped the base at 90 or so ? WG I want an explanation for this
-10 for All that work ? -10 ?
@tranquil grove in this weird rating battles, you need to kill rather than doing damage to save your very rating points

regal cosmos
tranquil grove
frank widget
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Thats just sometimes how it goes. Imagine if the better rating team won every time, there would be no reason to even play the match

regal cosmos
normal garnet
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People actually stressing over ratings 👀

sturdy needle
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I nEeD mY fEaRlEsS pArTs

tranquil grove
# regal cosmos I’m not saying that your team is the better one. They just have a higher rating ...

Yeah I know, but what I ask myself is, how in the world did they get that much rating then.

But it is all fine, I had a nice battle where I got insulted by an enemy because I hit him, like what is he thinking standing out in the open. Next Battle he was in my Team and straight up insulted me again, so I showed him a magic trick, I made myself disappear. Now I got 4 reports , but it was worth it. Anyways that was the signal I was waiting for, I am now done with Blitz and I hope I never feel the urge to go back to it.
I just can´t continue watching human beings acting one more stupid than the other (by that I dont mean playing bad, no ! I mean 60% camping at the back with their heavies because dmg instead of helping with their HP, I am sick of meds going medline when outnumbered 3 to 1 and then flaming the other 6 players because we stuck together as a team (not like you are supposed to do that in a team -game))
It was a nice time in Blitz, but it got more and more depressing, to see humans not using common sense and being selfish and the sad part about this is, 55%+ Players are the spearhead of it.
(Disclaimer, not all 55% behave like this, there are exceptions of course)

Edit: I play it for the nice camo, I dont like the IS-6, but free a camo is always needed

regal cosmos
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Camping is a bad play for me. If it doesn’t help for a win it can just be called a bad play. Anything that’s not a good play counts as a bad play.
The game being a mobile game just means that there’ll be a lot of players who don’t play well. There’s a lot of them now compared to before the December events period, but players who are better at the game will always expect good plays from most of their teammates, or get annoyed when someone doesn’t take the game as seriously or put much effort.

nova dirge
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actually I'm not really interested in rating battles, but I just finished the calibration, whatever the end result I will accept and stop, (now I'm gold with 3,669 points), because maybe all of you also feel that playing ratings is sometimes unfair, for example when you win then the points will increase by 30 and if you lose then the points will decrease by 40 which is why many of the players I met didn't finish their calibration because they know the rating on wotb doesn't really matter

snow surge
sturdy needle
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I just wish that WG would actually pay attention to this channel 😩

snow surge
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This could be like a place for thoughtful suggestions but it's more of a rant channel with nothing coming of it

agile sphinx
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@snow surge Hahahahaha you think that's how it works? 😂

It's very difficult to lose more points than you gain, especially below 5k, over any significant amount of battles. I had a 39% WR at tier 10 in one season over 40 or so games and still went up in points, and that was at about 4.6-4.9k if I remember right.

Also damage is not the same as a better performance btw

snow surge
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Hard to make a point when you don't even say your damage/xp performance

ruby rune
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@agile sphinx glad you know what you're talking about

ornate spoke
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i mean, honourless is not wrong here, ratings atm is pretty much just about battlespamming. the more you play, the more points you go up

rose path
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^^^^

zinc ravine
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Maybe adding a 10-5 battle count per day will help

wind whale
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We have to play 20 battles to get the camo right?

In general or in a specific tank?

copper mauve
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50

native marten
wind whale
native marten
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np

stuck kernel
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Anyone have ping issues just now?
ping spiked to 1000+ and lost the game coz of that 😦

next gull
ornate spoke
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I got 2000 ping once

copper mauve
ornate spoke
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.

agile sphinx
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@hollow python This is not the place for complaining about individuals, go to player support

hollow python
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i did

agile sphinx
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Then crying here has absolutely no use whatsoever except for getting in the way of actual suggestions and making this channel into a joke...?

fickle dome
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what best t8 for ratintg? in tech tree?

small pagoda
rose path
frank widget
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I dont think thats a good idea considering the playerbase. I wouldnt want to get banned because i miss 1 shot or because im the last one alive on the team

median wagon
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There’d be too many reports to handle, sometimes I just don’t want to report because logging into the wg website and doing everything is not a good use of time

rose path
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@frank widget That's more of a WG problem rather than a you problem
@median wagon Thats exactly why sending a ticket to support is such a long winded process, "too many reports" aint an excuse to not invest in better support process considering it's literally outsourced from Zendesk the same way the server clusters we play on are running from their vendor GCloud for infrastructure. If I were to guess, devs and senior management really need to considering upgrading certain assets if Blitz were to grow any further

median wagon
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Well I doubt big changes would happen, it isn’t an AAA game

runic copper
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Rating mm needs to change once and for all. See, I'm over 4.5K but I had these 2K players on my team... I will wait 1 hour if I have to for a match, I just don't want to ever play with such low level players ever.Otherwise, there is really no point for playing rating other than for crappy rewards

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ornate spoke
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Very true rating is supposed to be enjoyable not just for the rewards

sturdy needle
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Ratings are supposed to be competitive and enjoyable, but the competitive part is missing.

ornate spoke
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To be honest sometimes it isnt enjoyable either but we have to make do for now until WG change the matchmaking

lime sparrow
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im just using ratings to make monies
spam a premium, collect credits

ruby rune
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I just play rating bc i never platoon and i won't face a unicum platoon

midnight lark
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I play rating because i wanna get the 4k camos

ornate spoke
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i am 4.269 😦

worldly zodiac
warm charm
lime sparrow
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ur avrg dmg be lower in tier 8

gaunt blaze
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can u tell me a good clan

rapid pumice
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@gaunt blaze in EU?

gaunt blaze
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no it is asia

glossy raptor
round skiff
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i wouldn't mind more queue time it it's to get less difference between players honestly
but then getting on the same match with your clanmates, friends etc... would be easier and this sometimes can be an issue, would be less important tho.i think putting more rewards (even small ones) would actually be a good idea. maybe if we could choose between gold, credits and free xp depending on how good we are ranked at the end of the season (for example 100x ur ratings for creds 10x for fxp and 0.1x for gold) it would push people to do more ratings without making rewards too pig that way (would need 5k ratings to get 500 gold / 50k fxp / 500k creds
note that it's just an idea and probably needs a rework but might be interesting
and if it makes people play ratings it would help with the queue time, therefore we could get an mm with less difference between the players

stuck kernel
sturdy needle
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Considering you most likely spammed the anni, yeah it would make a lot of sense

stuck kernel
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Cut me some slack man. I have limited time, I didnt want to spend 400+ battles on Asia server just to get to diamond

agile sphinx
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You had a whole 10 more days lol

stuck kernel
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College restarted already and classes be ramping up yeahhh

frank widget
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Wow it sure must be easy getting to diamond with anni. Look at those tier 8 and 10 stats. Not well deserved

wind light
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wg remove premiums from raiting

civic comet
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Omg sure XD

pallid swift
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they just don't give u the chance of winning and playing at ur best.....ooof!

true ridge
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Play tiger II if you keep losing against prems, Tiger II is a great tank

stuck kernel
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Remove Prems from Ratings?
The amount of Emils you will see in tier 8 Ratings...

pallid swift
ornate spoke
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tbh i find that emil gives me more points than any premium i own at tier 8 so everyone should just start spamming emils

stuck kernel
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I mean....
I know someone with 40% WR in grille and WT
got to diamond in Emil

floral dock
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I’d rather see emil spam that action x, 252U, def mk1, and chimera spam. Anyway anything other than tier X rating is for scrubs

ornate spoke
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trust me, you would rather not come up against 5 unicum-super unicum emil drivers every single match. I know because I am one.

tall berry
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@glacial wharf whats your rating

snow surge
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Precisely

sacred verge
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Ratings is just filled with people with premium tanks that just bought them and play them like they just joined the game. Make Ratings aviable for people with at least 1k battles

regal cosmos
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You just need a maxed out tank afaik. So if you can get a tier 7+ tank in 1k battles you can still play ratings

frank widget
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Premium tanks are instantly maxed out tho

ornate spoke
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ratings needs to be at least 5k games

floral dock
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Main problem with premiums/collectors is you get little jimmy with his moms credit card buying a vk90 or t22, and entering tier 10 rating when little jimmy hasn’t played a single game above tier 8

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That and you get big jimmy spamming an annihlator or smasher thinking he’s a god at the game. Adding a min battle count will deal with some little jimmys but it won’t deal with big jimmys

dreamy wind
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what about medium jimmy

floral dock
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Hmmmm 🤔

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I also feel consolidating rating tiers to only tier 9-10 or only tier 10 will consolidate player count decreasing queue time

lime sparrow
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i spam t8 premiums because it's free credits 🥂

fringe geyser
true ridge
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Copy paste command go brrrrrrr

lofty plinth
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@iraikonnem

wind light
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look ones in tier 8 and 10 raiting, almost premiums only, maybe wg can try for 1 month to disable premiums in raiting

frank widget
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Tier 10 and 9 dont have that many premiums in them, but tier 8 and 7 are very full of them.

stuck kernel
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Are you kidding me...
Literally did nothing wrong, did everything right, still lost ridiculous points

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agile sphinx
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Complaining about losing 7 points for a half decent game? And you lost so that's the first thing you did wrong...

worldly anvil
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7 points isnt much at all

stuck kernel
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I shouldn't be penalized for the failures of my team.
Not complaining. I fail to understand why that happens.
There also seems to be an increasing amount of AFKs in ratings

fiery sierra
ornate spoke
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face it. ratings battles are rigged and the system is dumb. if you want the fearless you have to spend 6 hours a day spamming battles for it.

zinc ravine
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I was able to get mine in under 150 games each rating season
So no it’s not rigged unless WG really loves me for no apparent reason even tho I get nothing from crates

stuck kernel
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I'll just mod one in and pretend my normal one is a IS 6 fearless if I wanted that bad

agile sphinx
# stuck kernel I shouldn't be penalized for the failures of my team. Not complaining. I fail to...

You also shouldn't be rewarded for the successes of your team, but as it is a team game you get both rewarded and punished. It's already plenty easily enough to gain points.

I got mine in 3 seasons with I think 1k (200, 500 and 300 again?) battles over 4 months, which if you work it out generously (1000*7 minutes per battle including waiting time/120 days≈58) gives you about an hour a day, and that was in three seasons and everyone else has had muchhhh longer. Also ratings isn't rigged at all but I think that's pretty obvious...

stuck kernel
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I did not say ratings are rigged
And If I played like utter garbage in a win, I think I should get Zero points.

agile sphinx
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And so if you played absolutely perfectly on a loss you should also gain 0 points, and by absolutely perfectly I mean HoF good, so losing 7 points for a 4k game is generous if anything. And the rigged bit wasn't intended for you btw

jade folio
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I would prefer ratings to be a mode where you if win you gain points and if you lose you lose points....Points should be a fixed amount based on the XP....like if you win and have highest Base XP in team you get 50 points, 2nd one gets 40, 3rd gets 30, 4th gets 20, 5th gets 15, 6th gets 10, 7th gets 5.....same if you lose if you are lowest Base XP in losing team then you lose 50 points and so on....you only ever will not lose points or rather go positive on the losing side if you get Valiant Effort like lets say +10-15 points...

Also I would add that the rewards should be improved for it....
for example -
your ratings is 5.5k after the season ends and have minimum 100 or 150 games in that mode.... you get Diamond League camo + you get 550k credits + 55k Free XP + 550 gold
or
your ratings is 4.5k after the season ends and have minimum 100 games in that mode.... you get Platinum League camo + you get 450k credits + 45K free XP + 450 gold
You only get gold if you reach Platinum league if not then you get free xp and credits

Ratings should be Tier 10 only not low tiers it should be the pinnacle of the game and that's where the competitive play should be not where there is a shit show of Smashers, Annihilators, 252Us, Sharks, Chimeras, Progettos etc

Just my thoughts, you can disagree with them

grand hearth
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The Is 6 fearless isn't hard to get

grand hearth
# jade folio I would prefer ratings to be a mode where you if win you gain points and if you ...

Honestly, this seems like a shittier system to me... If you base the ratings points off base xp only not only could people in light tanks exploit that but the whole "valiant effort on the losing team" thing is really inconsistent. Also, if you were to have one bad game then you lose 50 points? :/ In my opinion the way they distribute points is better than what you described. What you described makes the meta full of light tanks and not to mention those lights tanks will.be competing with each other causing a more toxic environment. This will only make ratings more luck based than before. Now you'll have to gamble that your team has the better lights. Just one light is bad and you basically lose.

jade folio
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Ratings is mode which should be near to tournaments where winning the game should be the sole purpose of the mode not how much damage you are farming and XP is how much you are contributing towards your team to help them win instead of farming dmg staying safe so that you won't lose points

Everyone will get some good teams and bad teams which all balances out eventually

grand hearth
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I could have a whole argument why i find that wrong but i have class
Eventually doesn't cut it. That's just gambling.

ornate spoke
versed orchid
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ez

ornate spoke
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Hello tankers, I am honored to be here with you (:

grand hearth
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Lol

ornate spoke
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Здрасте

stuck kernel
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I played 70 battles today, Had a net loss of -2 points
All battles were fought within the range of 5018-4927
Interesting, to say the least

sturdy needle
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The top 1 person on each team should not lose any points whatsoever. Just because you have the most effort on the team doesn't mean you have to suffer for your team. This is a competitive game mode, not a team-based game mode. And by that I mean that ratings should be focused on individuals rather than the team overall.

agile sphinx
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@sturdy needle So if I sit in the opposite corner watching my team get completely steamrolled but end up with a bit more xp than them because I farmed I deserve to gain points?

It's already easy enough to earn points. You can already gain on a loss, which is stupid and needs removing, but it's there to exploit anyway.

stuck kernel
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I mean. Let's all play Medium tanks with accurate guns, and then farm everyone.

sturdy needle
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Correction: I said "not lose points," not "gain points."

But why should I suffer for my performance? If I do 5k in a game but my team still loses, it's not my fault. Therefore, I shouldn't receive a point loss while being top 1 on the team. The point of ratings is the competitive atmosphere, so if the top person on each team has a guaranteed chance to not lose points, it creates a more competitive atmosphere for players to compete on their team.

agile sphinx
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If you do 0 or very little damage and win, it isn't your fault. You still gain points. Why should you benefit from your performance?

I have explained this so many times it's getting boring, but ratings is already based off battle spamming rather than skill enough. Making it easier to get points when you aren't winning doesn't help that.

Make it harder to gain points, not easier. Then getting to 5k might actually mean something. Then the leaderboard might be separated off skill not battles played. Then ratings would be more competitive and less battle spammy. Doing the opposite it just counter productive and encourages selfish and bad play.

sturdy needle
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Wait, so it's not my fault if I don't do any damage?

jade folio
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The thing is this is unhealthy gameplay where someone is playing safe to farm dmg and not lose points instead of risking for a win
I have seen quite a few instances where players are just playing to farm damage and not lose points
Actually public battles are more competitive than ratings where players try to win and take risks unlike ratings
Ratings is a mode where many players grind tanks too without losing stats like tier 9 or tier 8 ones(it should be tier 10 only if you don't own one then you shouldn't be playing this mode)
Ratings is far from competitive mode it is even worse than Pubs

agile sphinx
sturdy needle
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Oh, well I guess it's my bad for not outlining my entire solution wasting time in this channel. Nice job trying to argue against something I didn't even bring up, good even ground.

The way ratings is set up right now is that wins give players points and losses lose players points unless they do well, in which case they either dont lose points or gain points. What I'm saying is that the person that has the most xp (commonly associated with damage) in each team will not lose points no matter a win or loss. With that being said, I do believe that losses shouldnt give players points, but instead the top 1 player on each team in terms of xp will not lose points. The winner will gain points and the loser will not gain nor lose points. The loser earns zero.

quasi moon
sturdy needle
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Ratings in a nutshell. That's why it's nowhere near to being competitive. Just another way to stomp on noobs tbh.

agile sphinx
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@sturdy needle Then you have read nothing I have said. Ratings is already focused enough on bad, selfish playstyles and battle spamming. Your idea just makes it moreso.

As you may tell by the screenshot above, that is what happens when you make it easy to increase your rating. The red Vickers and the green T57 are obviously not of similar ability, but are rated the same because it's so easy to gain points. You complain about that situation, but then advocate for ways to make that situation even more common.

Also if you don't mention something, specifically something very important, then I am definitely going to point out that you are missing the only possible good point to your idea.

misty basin
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Whats the name of this mod which is on the picture that shows wn8 ?

sturdy needle
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Meh, I don't feel like trying to prove my point anymore. You can keep on wasting your time if you want to.

quasi moon
frank widget
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i mean its easy to pick that one example that shows a large difference in skill and then ignore all the ones where the wn8 is about the same. calling bias

viscid ravine
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@quasi moon yo dude, plz tell me whats that mod that u have that tells the wn8 of ppl. DM ME

regal cosmos
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viscid ravine
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Oh ok

ornate spoke
agile sphinx
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I'm a strong supporter of changing ratings, but in the complete opposite way to what "ratings is rigged" type of people think funnily enough

floral dock
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Top player on the losing team shouldn’t lose points under certain conditions, if a team gets steam rolled and the top guy has 500 dmg he doesn’t deserve to gain points

agile sphinx
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You can't keep making it easier to gain points.

You need to make it easier to lose points as well.

Ratings is already who can battle spam the most because even with bad WR and performance you still gain points.

To make ratings relevant you need to make it harder not easier to gain points.

How many times do I have to repeat myself with nobody being able to say that I'm wrong before people start to listen????

floral dock
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Perfect example of why people below 50 shouldn’t be allowed in rating. Kid sat in the back the whole game in a amx m4 54. Fired 6 shots and only hit 2. G fricken g

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regal cosmos
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That’s just a bad player... You want to ban bad players from ratings?

lime sparrow
stuck kernel
# agile sphinx You can't keep making it easier to gain points. You need to make it easier to l...

I think that that may hold true for lower ranks. However, In Asia when you get to higher ratings, up to around say, 4900+, things get a bit finnicky.

There's less players playing ratings on Asia, as we all know. Matchmaking takes longer to put people in matches. Due to the lesser player pool, the MM at times screws up big time. It's not the MM's fault, it needs to get players in a match ASAP. If I'm not mistaken, the MM tries to achieve the same average ratings for both teams. (like 3800 team avg vs 3700 team avg)

Taking into account that there many not be enough Diamond or High Platinum Players for the MM to put on the opposing team, The MM gives the opposing team higher rated players and my team lower rated players in an attempt to average out the ratings.

I have had to fight battles with 2 calibrating players and a few golds while the enemy teams had multiple platinum mixed with golds.

Maybe I don't deserve to be a Diamond player If I can't carry these inferior teams to victory, But I believe that teams should at least be equally matched in skill in ratings, especially when it its advertised as such.

heavy depot
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I propose that ratings servers be open at all times. I think the super long cooldown period really keeps me and others from wanting to participate in it.

severe trellis
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If ratings were available all the time then there would be even less players playing at one time

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Because there’s already not a lot of players playing ratings and if u make it so that players can play any time, then they’ll be much less players playing at one time, which means it would take even longer to get into a game and the games themselves would be even less balanced, cuz there would be less players of different leagues to select from

atomic meteor
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i suggest some formulae for rating gain / loss
come on guys, no use complaining if you can't practically generate a better way of calculating rating gain/loss

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proven flicker
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(-_-)

tender mason
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Imagine doing 6k on t22 or t62, ( it's not that difficult) you can gain up to 75 point in on game !

gentle karma
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mad game he is come?

elfin falcon
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Hey guys , im looking for wise words to help me get the is6 fearless ( as a trophy that i completed the game ) . In the past i tried but only get 25 certificates, i try many time after that but my luck ran out , bad team and unfair mechanics, also too long for a game made me mad . Well my question is first of all does it worth grinding through Hell ? And also how to play rating better , do u spam battles or focus on every game carry all type of bots ? Last question is how many points is considered SAFE to get certificate in 1 typical season , im looking for 40 certificates . After is6 fearless im will be done with this game . Thanks for reading

little quarry
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EVERY tank? If so nice, I dont have the tank myself but ppl say it is just the same as the is6, so nothing other than a different camo

steel ingot
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Spam battles with overpowered overcooked tanks, @elfin falcon.

little quarry
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lol i did that with emil1 got to 5k points

stuck kernel
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I have decided to play like crap in ratings
Dropped 130 points in 15 matchs
"Ahahahah so easy gain point, just spam battles"
Why should I work hard to win if my teamm sucks? Im just gonna play like trash now and make people carry me
It doesnt make sense why I should drop 130 points in 15 battles while giving my all.

timid schooner
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no cap sherlock

feral fiber
stuck kernel
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no cap sherlock

sturdy needle
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🧢

ornate spoke
devout tusk
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What is this gamemode about?

ornate spoke
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Suggestion to all good players: play heavy angler in rating matches, because enemy team will focus you all the time and your team will usually sit back and waiting you to die. Chance to survive in heavy angler is much bigger. Good luck (:

normal garnet
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As u can see this is a professional player. U just don’t understand why he is doing this, because he is too much for u to comprehend.

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess Warning logged for BillyDaCh#4456. I couldn't DM them.

ornate spoke
zinc ravine
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Angling huh, Never thought i'd see a word like that here

frank widget
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What is this "angling" thing

elfin burrow
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I think he meant 'side scraping'

frank widget
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yes i know its a joke

feral fiber
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Pls treat that guy with atmost respect, hes teaching us how to play rating

frank widget
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So apparently youre not supposed to show your tanks weak spots?

ornate spoke
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Before you criticize the existing system, learn the basics of the game...

stuck kernel
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I can assure you I am a master damage farmer

frank widget
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He only got 2 bounces while hitting an afk IS4

floral dock
regal cosmos
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Queues might not be big enough to handle that

floral dock
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Ratings should only be tier 10 (let’s face it, if you don’t have a tier 10 you shouldn’t be in ratings, also to prevent new players from buying a tier 10 you would need to have at least 1 researched tier 10 tank to unlock the option to select rating) that will consolidate the tiers to 1 tier and therefore consolidating the players to 1 tier instead of spread out across 4. And also I’d rather have 10 minute queue times if it was guaranteed low 40% or 30% bots wouldn’t be in the game. Nothing against the players specifically, I don’t really care if you only play the game to have fun and don’t care about stats or how you perform, but when you go into what’s supposed to be a more competitive gamemode for people who do care about performance that’s when you cross the line. If you want to just have fun and not care about stats don’t ruin people’s games who do care about stats. Stick to regular or special gamemodes if you just wanna yolo rush and have fun.

ornate spoke
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MA

next gull
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Why would WG forbid a game mode from paying players ? Eventually, the rating MM is supposed to separate the bad players from the good ones.

ornate spoke
stuck kernel
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Should have taken you around 15 at most ngl

frank widget
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In his defense getting rating on tier X is a pain

round skiff
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Yeah t10 is hard to get points on compared to t8 (i did 49 battles in both T54e2 and 62a and i did twice as much points with T54e2)

floral dock
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54 battles to go up less than 200 points is kinda sad, even if its tier 10, suggests your calibration might have been a fluke

feral fiber
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Hes just happy he made to plat, dont pull him down

floral dock
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With a 57% winrate which he had, he should have made 150 points in like 15-20 games max

rose path
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Updated progress on my ratings tool now available. Some features still needs finishing but this prerelease version works fine for now:

If anyone knows the api call for pulling player points and clan tags please let me know

Last I dunno who or why someone started to suddenly keep deleting this when it certainly doesn't break EULA and is purely written based on Wargaming's developer docs.

https://github.com/Xeb3rnium/WoTBlitz-Ratings-Tryhard

GitHub
Xeb3rnium/WoTBlitz-Ratings-Tryhard

Tired of being clapped by battle spamming sweats? Need to stalk the sleep schedules of unicums? Then this Ratings tool is for you! - Xeb3rnium/WoTBlitz-Ratings-Tryhard

unreal kernel
dry crater
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how does one manage 196 avg dmg across 5 games? i just cant fathom how that is possible without trying to troll

sturdy needle
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yay i love losing 13 ratings battles in a row and losing 200 points this gamemode is so fair and balanced

normal garnet
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Andy get good nub

opaque shard
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5

winged sierra
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you dont have it rnß

cloud aurora
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@civic comet you should play a supportive role if you’re playing in Emil 1. And you should be able to read the map and make more damage. In this way you’ll atleast get green points even if you lose. Just do the most in every battle. Gl mate 👍

ornate spoke
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It is not enough for one in ten players to play well, do not be selfish and pass on your knowledge to new players. You can’t make a super unicum clan and act like you live on another planet.

covert wind
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Wrong channel

opaque kiln
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oh ok

analog coral
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But good battle tho :p

pastel timber
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Only tech tree for rating battles when?

next gull
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When techtree will be paying WG's salaries

stuck kernel
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Aka never

regal cosmos
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when they make copies and sell in battlepasses

tender mason
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Kekw

sturdy needle
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quite sus that i have a ping here but theres no message

viscid ravine
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@sturdy needle git gud smh
Ppl still sweating for fearless lmao, I got it 2 times and in the first season it came out lmaoo

sturdy needle
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lol

viscid ravine
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@sturdy needle u like ny new logo lol?

sturdy needle
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@viscid ravine yes it looks very cool

viscid ravine
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😊 😊 😊

lean pond
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Petition for having to win with a premium tank at least 100 times before it can be used in rating. There are too many pay to loose players, thanks😐

floral dock
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41% WR and I still went up points in the end. Great teams today

native marten
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ok but they're just gonna come to ratings after those 100 battles and then the problem is still there

floral dock
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That’s why premium and collector tanks should be excluded from rating. Never gonna happen though cause WG is just as money hungry as EA. Cares more about making a quick buck and less about how the player base feels. I can almost guarantee tanks like the t22, smasher, and annihilator would be or would have been nerfed big time if they weren’t premiums/collectors and were tech tree tanks instead.

vivid shore
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You know T-22 M is already nerfed? I mean it's not same as in 2019

stuck kernel
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T 22 SR isn't as strong as you think. All you have to do is aim. It's in its current state because a bunch of people can't aim properly.

native marten
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a lot of t22 players just start wiggling back and forth at more or less the same intervals, so if you catch one out in the open you can just wait a bit to see what they're gonna do before you fire, personally it makes penning it a lot easier (for the front)

mystic pecan
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I finally finished my calibration

cloud aurora
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What did you get? @mystic pecan

slim cloud
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I don’t think I should have to face people 1.5k ratings away from me on either side

gilded edge
misty basin
floral dock
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Wish I had teams like that

worldly anvil
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true skill and vickers cruiser shouldnt be in the same context

viscid ravine
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Lol ^^^^ @worldly anvil fax spamming Vickers aint skill but only 19 battles in Vickers so thats fine
Btw @warm charm ty for supporting the atgms lmao

sacred verge
floral dock
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Imagine playing tier 7 ratings in a premium vehicle that is kinda op

regal cosmos
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Not very OP when you face tier 8s

brisk ridge
west thicket
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They need to remove tanks that go in Isabel so it is more realistic

covert wind
frank widget
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Maybe he means Isabel Marant Tank Tops, a brand of womens clothing?

lament orbit
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when ends rating battles ?

tough breach
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Players should not be allowed to calibrate 2 weeks after ranking month has commenced. Today players with no calibration. It’s ridiculous. A lot have zero commitment to winning.

feral fiber
lament orbit
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okej thx

restive quest
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Oof

meager stone
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What to do if you gave an incorrect ban?

tawny jolt
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so, I have a question.
How does the system decide what player gets what position if there are 2 people with the same amount of points
like if 2 guy has the same amount of point and one of them is at 5th place, would the 6th place not get the Fearless like the 5th even tho they both have the same amount of points?

floral dock
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most likey who ever got the position first would get the reward of the rank. that or neither player would get the reward for the rank and they would just both the reward of the next reward bracket

ornate spoke
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i really like rating battles.

ornate spoke
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Damn rating battle mm is strange i was in platinum league then decreased to 3,5k points and now got back platinum league 🙂

naive arch
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@ornate spoke

true ridge
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What of him.

jade prairie
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A

waxen creek
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silly question, but where can you see when the current ratings season ends?

vivid shore
round fiber
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Less players = dead game

next gull
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@tawny jolt good question. There is actually a hidden value besides ranking when you get rating stats from WG. It is particularly important in the middle of the pack (around 2800) where all players stack.
Ranking is based on this hidden value, I suspect. It is not a non-rounded value of rating. Might be related to XP gained but obviously there is no documentation available.

tawny jolt
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I see
Because I'm in 5th on Asia atm and I'm a bit worried because my friend is very close to me but he's at 6th
and you know, we both want the Fearless since only the top 5 in Asia will get the tank

stuck kernel
next gull
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In any case, the primary stat is rating points.
I could not say how quickly the hidden value varies with rating so I would not be able to say how far you are from him in ranking either. This might be something to check.

tawny jolt
median wagon
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Hahha

sonic sedge
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War Gaming, sort your useless scoring system out & make it fairer & more reflective of a players’ performance ! How is it that someone (on my team) can fire just one shot, go the opposite way to which the ‘team’ indicated & go up 5 points because he was on the winning side!? Yet if someone is on the losing side & top scores out of everyone on both sides ‘his’ points can go down! A child could come up with a better system, oh wait, maybe....🤣

stuck sphinx
regal cosmos
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Oh stevo is back. Forgot about him

agile sphinx
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How dare you forgot about the Mighty Logic Bringer????

His argument is flawless, how dare people be rewarded for winning and punished for losing??? It's disgusting and unfair. Everyone should be punished for playing except stevo himself who should be rewarded.

floral dock
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you shouldnt be rewarded for winning when you did nothing to help your team win. if you did 0 damage, with 0 spots, with 0 damage with your assistance, with 0 points captured, and with 0 damage blocked, you shouldnt be going up points when your team wins.

agile sphinx
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And so by logic, you should also not be going up points when you lose. If you do everything perfectly then you should lose no points.

floral dock
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You should go up more points when you lose but do 5k dmg 5 kills 4 spots, then if you win the game with 0s in everything. However that’s not how it works and you can do 0 on everything and as long as your team wins your gonna go up more points

agile sphinx
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You shouldn't go up on a loss at all if you cannot go down on a win.

Otherwise you are just in the scenario we are in now where 2k battles with 45% WR in ratings can get you as apparently one of the best players in the server.

You need it to be as easy to gain points as it is to lose points. Otherwise you just get constant gains from battle spamming.

tawny jolt
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yeah, I think instead of basing the points gain mainly from wins/lose
I'd love if it changed to mainly your performance in battle, no matter the win or lose

regal cosmos
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If you lose with like 5k damage, you shouldn’t get as much as if you did that when winning, or else it just wouldn’t matter if you win or lose because only the damage and other stats count

agile sphinx
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The ideal rating system is a fixed gain of points if you win, and a fixed loss of points if you lose. This is the ideal system because ultimately if you are playing better you will win more.

Unfortunately because quite often there will only be a few points separating people and people tend to not play enough battles for this to stratify people properly, this system wouldn't work unless you had like a 6 month long season.

So instead, the system should be based mainly off whether you win or lose, but scaled off your performance to almost predict how well you would do over a greater amount of battles. The current system is this idea, but implemented badly because it is wayyyy too generous. It predicts that people will do much much better than they actually would, and so we get the current situation where it's easy to gain points and all you need is battle spam.

I'm currently making my own points system so suggest but there are lots of different factors and I want to get a more computerised model of what would happen if this was implemented first.

stuck kernel
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"it's easy to gain points and all you need is battle spam." Observe the below screenshot.
First strech (200 battles): 115 wins out of 200. 57.5% WR 1537 Points
Second Stretch (145 Battles): 64 Wins out of 145. **44.13% WR ** -4 points.

I mean. Maybe I just can't play when I get to high ratings.

But In Asia due to the less players in the MM at any given time, there may is a lack of other higher rated players for the MM to put on the other team. As a result, higher rated players are given consistently weaker teams game after game. It's hard to overcome this hurdle, as most games result in a 7:2 or 7:1 total blowout.

Sure, I can sit at the back and try to farm as much as I can, but most of the time I still get -5 points per loss. Rarely I can get a map that favors my tank, and I can carry the game to a win, but those are few and far between.

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tough breach
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Developers really need to change this. 7 players all ranked including diamond and platinum players and a few gold like me. Other side 5 calibrated including diamond and platinum but 2 uncalibrated on 28th of the month. One with a 68 WR. It’s a nonsense. No ranking battles unless calibrated in first 10 days. Makes it a lot fairer.

muted shuttle
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@tough breach Calibrating users actually have a set rating, it just does not show.

native marten
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iirc users on their first calibration game start at 3k. from there on out, for the other battles, they actually do have a rating (which you can actually see on blitzstars) but for whatever reason it doesn't show on their in-game profile

agile sphinx
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@stuck kernel With a 44% WR you do not deserve by any stretch of the imagination to stay at a constant number of points. You did. That's testimony enough to the system being flawed and wayyy too easy to go up points.

If you aren't able to cope with having marginally worse teams (from 4k to 6k rating your teammates average rating will drop by 330 points which is barely anything) then that is you playing badly not the matchmaking. You should not be trying to sit back and farm because that is the opposite of what ratings should encourage. You should be playing for the win not selfishly for damage.

floral dock
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MM brackets should be 4K+ and 3999-

sacred verge
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Add a feature only letting people with 1k battles enter ratings. I see way too many re-rolls in Ratings games and too many bots

round skiff
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@sacred verge yes, at least 1k normal battles to get to ratings. so it works even with ppl like _ManFakk with their false 100%wr

@floral dock eh seems too much of a change. but making brackets would be so much better. for example 2000-3500, 3000-4500 etc... would need some tweaking but would reduce the gap between players

ornate spoke
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i dont understand ratings. all day ratings have been absolute hell and it makes no sense. My team always has 3 + 40%ers with 1 on the enemy team and this is platinum and diamond league ratings. I am losing every game and there are two days left for me to get into diamond and i cant do that while i lose 4 points ever single game

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the last game i played my team had 4 players with less than 800 avg dmg and the enemies had 2. we obviously lost.

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and then my team has two players dealing 0 damage, both in very strong-overpowered tanks, and both are 40% players, along with another 40%er, while the enemies have 1 40% player and the rest are all mid-high 50%

west thicket
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Is there any world of tanks blitz codes

regal cosmos
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No

dusty kelp
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Yeh ratings MM is horrible ..went from 3936 down to 3600...after 12 lost in a row with bot/ donkeys in team ...then later won 20/25 with good and bad teams mixed...ended on 4012 ....happy im the end but sad it took 30 plus games to hit 4 k 😱😂☠️

ornate spoke
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i am a super unicum 67% 30day player, and yet i am winning around 48% over 250 games in ratings. how does this happen? only answer is ratings mm needs reworking

round fiber
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Rating less players so dont surprise if more noobs

floral dock
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God I swear half the maus/mauschen players need to uninstall the game. A full hp mauschen just sat there and didn’t even try to push or use his hit points to take shots for the team which was low hp. You have 2.5k or 3k hp learn how to use it.

round fiber
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This game bots always in your team, that's fact

agile sphinx
next gull
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Some came to my mind too...

frank widget
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lets not make him sad by telling him the truth

ornate spoke
worldly anvil
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Bruh i was getting 44% wins in sheri when i was 65% at t10
2.5k avg
its your rating
because of your higher rating, the enemy needs to match it (somewhat)
so, that means you technically get the worse team, unless there is a similar higher rating enemy
also, generally, more skilled players play ratings

ornate spoke
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mk well there are players that have the same or way worse stats than me at tier 10 yet they have 5500 points while i have 4700. And they are winning every game while I lose.

agile sphinx
# agile sphinx The ideal rating system is a fixed gain of points if you win, and a fixed loss o...

Yes I'm totally in favour of ratings and think it's perfect what flawless and oblivious logic you have.

Ratings is a different playstyle to random games. You have obviously not noticed this based off all your rants here in the past. You will have a lower WR in ratings as you get to your skill limit, and you will also have a lower WR if you play badly or selfishly. The matchmaker puts two teams together with an approximately the same average rating with an approximately equal spread of tanks. That is the best it can do.

They are not winning every game, they are just winning more games than you and doing more in them than you. They are also likely playing many more battles. I don't think you even know what you are complaining about anymore you are just looking for something to get mad at and blame.

elfin burrow
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I will just write in short and sweet: Ratings is the most unsatisfactory and blood pressure increasing mode in WoT Blitz.(not that I have BP probs, just a fig of speech here)

worldly anvil
round fiber
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Rating is less players than Regular and many bots

ornate spoke
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mmmm ok @agile sphinx i think it's odd that players with a lower skill level than me are somehow doing better than me and winning more games. They tend to win 60% games while I am averaging 48%. And that is my point, ratings is a broken gamemode because there are just a lot of battlespammers. The mode isn't about skill, its about who has more time as adamathome said.

tall oar
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They need fix the rating mm

agile sphinx
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Show me someone you deem to be of lower skill level than you and their performance in ratings then...

It is partially about skill but it's overshadowed by battle spammers, and that's why the points system needs to be changed to make it harder to gain points.

And then ofc you have the people saying "fix this" without saying what they think is broken, why they think it's broken, or giving any suggestions for improvement 👌

ornate spoke
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@agile sphinx obviously i cant name people here because of rules, but if you want I can dm you. And I agree with you on the rest of the arguments, but I just don't think there is a way to make it harder to gain points without making it impossible for normal people with actual lives to get top 5-10 in ratings

glossy raptor
agile sphinx
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It's fairly difficult to create a system but I'm pretty sure it's possible. Obviously you would have to play enough games to make sure that you are deserving of the leaderboard position, but the leaderboards should not be decided by who plays the most battles as it is atm.

What there needs to be is a terminal point of your ratings where you are playing at the exact point where you play well/badly enough and win the correct amount of games in the long run to have a constant rating. As your average personal performance isn't actually that affected by your team (worse greens means more damage for you to farm, but better reds means less time to farm it in), WR needs to be the main influencing factor. With the current system you gain points with a bad WR and normal average damage, so the limit for pretty much every half decent player becomes how many games they can spam.

I have an idea for a better system but like I said before it needs more testing.

round fiber
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My answer very simple : WoT Blitz is not PUBG, so less players and mm is unbalanced, if you want them fix or improvement mm, impossible and very very hard, most players is RU Server, 100% Bots in PUBG is not in your team, dont worry, i played PUBG PC and PUBG Mobile, but in WoT Blitz, bots is awful, you will play same team with bots, they will ruining your gameplay and you can't enjoy this game

regal cosmos
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then they ruin everyone's battles because theyre on both teams

round fiber
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Just dont wasted your time, you will get mad

floral dock
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True, it’s honestly not worth it

round fiber
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Less players and full bots, newbies, n u b s, that's fact, they cant fix or improvement MM, you will get mad after play a few hours

ruby rune
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How can everyone notice you can get points by farming dmg and leaving your team to die but not do it themselves and still moan about not getting points

round fiber
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Team work doesnt exist in this game, in PUBG even they dont know who are you but still play team work until die

median wagon
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You realise it’s random right, and ratings is everyone for themselves

timid pebble
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why do you need the top gun on is2 for ratings, the stock gun is better.

ornate spoke
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pretty much all tanks need to have the top modules mounted for ratings battles, with some exceptions such as the su152, which can run the 152mm, the t49 which you can use the rocket launcher on, and the t92e1 which you can use the stock gun on

native marten
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iirc you can also run the stock gun on the batchat and e100 for whatever reason

misty bramble
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I have just lost four battles in a row with a clan member and that in level ten. Only because low-level players are constantly screwing up the battles. Wargaming should seriously think about a win-rate-based matchmaking, because it's not just me so annoying , but also many other players.

round fiber
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round fiber
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This game full toxic and mad, i played this game much than other game but now i can take a break and get a new PC gaming, play other games

viscid ravine
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This is how wg does it, mm is unfair even in randoms, its like this, wg is tryna make it so its 50% wr on every server, the devs of the wot pc literally said when answering question on stream, that there is a system when u keep winning u get put into trash teams basically, they didn't say trash btw lmao, on russian server the players call it podkrutka, the word it self means when someone is turning something up, like a bolt or ur game wr, AND YES beating 40% is fun xD

round fiber
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Fact, they only care how to sell more tanks, almost 7 years but MM still is suck and can't fix, why?, we all know 👍 👍 👍

warm charm
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Despite having a garbage calibration, still made it to diamond under 300 battles, no op tanks used, had garbage teams (look at that 55% wr, which is actually an overestimate since low rating was easy wins). There's no rigging or got good luck with teams, only skill needed.

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zinc ravine
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Did you forget about battle spamming because there’s no skill in that

floral dock
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Wanna show exactly what tanks you used? Instead of just claiming that you didn’t use OP tanks

warm charm
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t10: e100 most played, is4, 215b, some t62, some t22 (which didnt help at all, its at like 45% wr)
t8: su130pm most played, prog 46, t49, barely any 252 (like 10 battles or so)
t9: vickers cr, which obv didnt help w/ 48% wr or so

floral dock
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Su130 and prog46 are borderline ngl. 130 less so but prog46 definitely. Also once you hit diamond league it’s 100% battle spamming over skill since you can easily keep it so you go down less than 10 per loss and go up over 15 per win

frank widget
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Mad respect for that 1200 grind on tier X

median wagon
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Suspicious

midnight lark
native marten
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666 games

floral dock
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You shouldn’t be able to join rating queue until you have 5k+ battles in regular

midnight lark
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I mean what is his plan??

floral dock
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To ruin ratings for people who actually try, very clearly is a troll account

floral dock
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God this shouldn’t happen. Whole team other than 1 player is below 3k. SBMM my butt rating. Someone in 5k shouldn’t be on the same team or in the same game as people under 3k

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agile sphinx
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Yes because I'm sure everyone would love 20 minute long queues. The average rating is 3.3k Vs ~3.4k that seems to be pretty stat based to me

floral dock
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I’d be fine with 20 minute queues if the MM got better as a result

native marten
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Are you sure you'd like 20-30 minute queues for a game that won't even last 7 minutes and with SSBM your matches are like 50% win rate (even the best players might only be able to hit 55%-57% win rate at a peak)

Implementing 20 minute queues just to create "balanced" matches just sounds like a surefire way to drive out what remaining players are even left

dusty kelp
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Just happyi hit 4k..ty is 4 and Annihilator :)

river badge
limpid plaza
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Hey, what should i do to get rating

river badge
floral dock
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You play 10 calibration battles in any tier 7-10 tank that has 100% crew, then you receive a rating and from there you play more battles to try and increase that rating

agile sphinx
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@river badge I don't have the current 5k camo but I did get one on the tort a few months back so you aren't alone in your cult of craziness :)

worn drum
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when ratting reset ?

dusty kelp
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Today/tomorrow i think

regal cosmos
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Oof

velvet ginkgo
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CaRrY HarDEr. remember, it's 1v13 not 7v7

copper mauve
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@worn crest cover dem names, also not even a rating battle

floral dock
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^^^ wrong channel, post it in #screenshots with names covered if it’s not rating

minor dust
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I have seen alot of discussion about making 5k battles minimum. honestly i think it should be around 1k. 5k is too high. i just started this game 1 month ago, but with only 1.8k battles its enough experience to have amazing games against good players. 5k is just unfair, you shouldnt have to wait an entire year just to play rating. i have loved the gamemode and had lots of fun.

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high arch
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100 games

sacred verge
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Ratings isn't quite a game mode but ok. well. 5k mark is just to prevent re-rolls from buying any premium tank and go to ratings. They're annoying and salty.

agile sphinx
zinc ravine
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Nah rating battles is rating battles from a scale of 1-10

minor dust
sacred verge
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An experienced player who makes a new account to make it look like he/she's a pro. Like 70% WR and tonf average damage

tawny jolt
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I guess I got 4th
hopefully the Fearless will be delivered by WG soon

river badge
slender kelp
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I reached 5650 but lost and went down again playing with people who are playing on their own and someone block me on porpuse many battles and say lag. I hate rating cus of them

ornate spoke
floral dock
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^^ I already pointed out the su130 and prog46 are anything but balanced

copper mauve
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PM or normal?

floral dock
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Pm

warm charm
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The su130 is a td lmao, it can’t be op since it’s accuracy is bad and has worse dpm than the skorp. Prog 46 isn’t op, just very good, but low dpm. Also, i mostly used the t8s only from 2.8k-4.4k rating, at 4.4k rating it was a lot harder to climb, so I used almost exclusively t10s. And I already said my vickers cr didn’t work at all, 13 battles and 49 pts gained, totally helped me grind. Same with the t22, had only 45% wr in it @ornate spoke

floral dock
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Imagine not playing only tier 10 smh

native marten
agile sphinx
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Prog has low dpm?

Yeah 2.3k dpm when firing empty is bad.

Oh wait and you have the clip as well.

🤔

floral dock
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Why doesn’t rating count for your stats but you can still get mastery badges and other awards in rating...

floral dock
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Rip 10 points off #20

midnight lark
agile sphinx
crimson goblet
compact wedge
true ridge
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Just because a tank has low dpm that doesn’t make it not op, look at how well the Kranvagn is doing

warm charm
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Kran has armor, ret cal, and a clip, su130 only has mobility (but u mostly camp anyways since ur paper) and pretty bad gun handling. prog isnt op, its mobility isnt the best, has nor armor, and gun handling is meh for a med. As a heavy, dpm isnt really a big deal, since you're usually going to face other heavies, which also have pretty bad dpm, and most of the time you will try to bounce shots. In meds, dpm is much higher, and usually have no armor, so having a low dpm med is way more of a problem than having a low dpm heavy

true ridge
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Tell the prog 46’s stats that it isn’t op

lime sparrow
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it's a glass cannon

true ridge
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It’s effective

next gull
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Not saying Progetto46 is bad, but Chimera or Mk1 perform much better.

crisp granite
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Prob cuz they have some armor

ornate spoke
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How to play E50 Full Update ?

white spruce
graceful salmon
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why im not reciving 2 of my rating camos ( i have less than 50 battles in this tanks ) but i have 1 tank with which i have more than 50

wind light
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you need 50+ battles and Platinum / Diamond to get a camo, gold only get avatar

elfin burrow
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Which most of them don't even bother to use.

visual sleet
river badge
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50 to get the camo then said ya no more

ornate spoke
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also it's my first time getting to 5k, and aren't you supposed to get 5 fearless parts for base diamond league? Is there a delay there, because I haven't received the parts yet?

muted shuttle
ornate spoke
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ok thank you, I was being patient just new to ratings

unborn crater
floral dock
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Gg? Plat in any of those tanks isn’t hard tbh

steady fractal
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Does anyone know how long it will take to receive gold and my fearless?

regal cosmos
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Few days

copper mauve
worldly anvil
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amx m4 45 has a fantastic gun
its not as hard as you think it is, its just an average tier 7

ornate spoke
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can someone help. i have 200xp. and then after battle i get 340xp. why do i get only 250?

copper mauve
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@ornate spoke screenshot would be handy

regal cosmos
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The 340 might be with premium account, while he doesn’t have premium account

ornate spoke
steady fractal
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Yea thanks I got 2nd

ornate spoke
regal cosmos
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Send a pic of the battle result and we can try to help

ornate spoke
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i can try explain

midnight lark
ornate spoke
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yeah i know that, and you do, but he claims hes not a reroll and just started a month ago @midnight lark

midnight lark
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I love these wannabe pros

floral dock
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Lol guy made a reroll account and spends the whole time playing a vk 30.01 P

compact wedge
ornate spoke
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@compact wedge thx, i was already answered by the mods

lime sparrow
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k

stiff widget
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Hummmmm ok

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I did only 44 battles in BC 25t i get the 4k Camo o_O , same on proggeto tier 8

ornate spoke
honest dust
south ore
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the rating teams are absolutely screwed

agile sphinx
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This channel is not to complain about match making

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ornate spoke
ornate spoke
# sacred verge An experienced player who makes a new account to make it look like he/she's a pr...

Looks like you have something against rerolls which I don't understand. If a good player makes a reroll, who is stopping them from enjoying playing against newer players for a little while? My career stats were beyond repairable because I had tens of thousands upon thousands of battles, and so I decided to reroll. I still average ~3k at tier 10, so there really is nothing wrong with making a reroll. And no, rerolls are not "annoying and salty", it's likely that they are actually somewhat good players who are frustrated with poor teams or wish that teammates would actually read the chat. And I understand that many people turn chat off or ignore it because of toxicity, and that's fine in some ways, but to me, knowing what my teammates are doing and thinking, and wanting me to do is much more important than the usual raging. And it frustrates me when games are thrown by players that don't read their chat when if they had just attempted to follow what their teammates were telling them, they could've had an amazing game and a victory. And maybe the difference between me and other rerolls is that my mission with this account was to be completely free to play. I mean, originally I was not concerned about stats, but just using the softer matchmaking to grind lines 25% faster than normal. So perhaps think about these things before making a generalization flat-out attacking rerolls.

floral dock
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Tbh once you get to a certain point it’s just not worth it to reroll. I’ve got 15k battles and 18 non premium/collector tier 10s. I’m a f2p player and haven’t spent a single dime from my own wallet on the game. Over the years I’ve been able to collect a fair amount of premiums from events. I honestly don’t even see why people reroll. By the time they figure out they aren’t actually a bad player or whatever they must have already invested tons of time into the account. I personally can’t even begin to imagine trying to grind all the lines again, I’d just quit blitz completely if I ever had to restart.

worldly anvil
agile sphinx
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^ and sealclubbing is not good at all

Rerolls are fine until they pretend that their stats are representative of their skill or try comparing them to other people who aren't rerolls, which happens a lotttt because rerolls are there for the stats.

ornate spoke
# floral dock Tbh once you get to a certain point it’s just not worth it to reroll. I’ve got 1...

completely understand that, and it was a tough decision for me too. But ig it was easier for me because my main account literally had zero meta tanks, unless you can rly call the t57 meta, bc 50b is just better than it. @worldly anvil I would say you're correct, but I originally made _Muppet because I wanted to find the exact battle number to get a tier 10 tank; I wasn't worried about stats or grinding other lines. But after i rerolled, I found that it was fun playing against newer players so I continued working on the account. My main account has over 11k games and still only 52% wr, and I didn't get a single tier 10 until 7k games. And @agile sphinx I would agree with this, but tooning with non-rerolls is rly what has made me question if rerolls are as bad as people say. Like, when I've platooned with players with 10ks of battles in my clan, I usually do more 50% of the time. I guess my point with this example is that I could never get used to having to grind another 10k games on my main account at 63-64% wr just to get to maybe 54-55% career when I could make a new account and get into top clans with career requirements.

worldly anvil
ornate spoke
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ye probably LMAO
also I found that it took 811 games to get to the vickers light paying no money

agile sphinx
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"I usually do more 50% of the time" is pure speculation and is going to be completely innacurate and biased. Top clans aren't going to let a player that isn't good in, and they know the difference between an average player rerolling and a good player.

sacred verge
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@ornate spoke well yes. But how many times have you seen a guy who's extremely toxic in the chat. You go to his profile and it doesn't surprise you that it'vs a reroll account. Most re-rolls don't take responsibility for what they say and do because of them not being on their main account and being anonymous. What I'm jyst saying is that I see too many. Not all but way too many re-rolls who buy a premium tank and jumps right into Ratings. I also have a re-roll but it's f2p. And I'm trying to not be toxic in the chat, which isn't always easy. But most re-rolls thinks that not being on their main account is sort of an protection against bans. Most re-rolls don't care. Since it's not their main. Not saying everyone are bad but seeing how so many re-rolls have a bigger mouth than a bigger brain when they're on their re-rolls makes me sad. They don't stand for what they're saying at all. And this can affect people who are a bit more sensetive. So it's not a head on attack. It's just what I see about re-rolls today in Blitz.

ornate spoke
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Blitz is a tosic game, even without the rerolls. It's not just rerolls that are toxic, it's everyone.

sacred verge
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Re-rolls doesn't help the community in any way from my point of view. Not gonna tell everyone they're bad as I also got a re-roll. But it's mainly for testing tanks I normally would hesitate getting. Such as AT line. Decided to skip them to AT 15 and skip Tortorise.

Might seem like an excuse to seal club but in the prosess of a f2p you don't really have a choice.

@_muppet#9752 would you rather lose your main account with tons of tanks or your re-roll with mostly little stuff?

Also. If everyone are so toxic as you say doesn't give you an excuse to be toxic.

midnight lark
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In my opinion are rerolls just wannabe superunicums

ornate spoke
sacred verge
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@ornate spoke so you can boost your stats? Re-rolls haven't really been useful for the community at all. Thw whole point of stats are pretty much gone if everyone starts to re-roll. If I had the money I'd buy ex and credits to get a tier 10 tank on my re-roll to spare the beginners for seal clubbing

mellow pawn
ornate spoke
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well of course you don't think there should be a min battle requirement, you don't have that many games. You are inclined to be biased. But objectively I think adding this requirement would make ratings much more interesting and would be a step towards getting proper mm in blitz

floral dock
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Personally I think the min battle requirement should be per tier. Like you need 1k battles in non premium/collector tier X tanks. Hopefully once people play 1k in tier X they should understand how the game works and know enough about maps and tank types to not be the 1 guy who goes the wrong way on maps

cyan delta
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I think creating a reroll account is also a good way to see how you have increased in skill over time. Sure, Blitzstarz works well enough, but, it is nice to see what restarting with your experience does to making grinding easier and allows for you to experiment with different tactics on maps

floral dock
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The beginning grind is painful, always in need of credits, premium time is rare, and no need to mention the teams at low tier, also with tier 7 being more broken than ever. It just wouldn’t be fun to have to deal with all that lol

ornate spoke
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good players dont need to worry about smashers, just annihilator. and those can be countered in certain tanks too

true ridge
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If you’re grinding, you’re not always going to be playing those certain tanks

regal cosmos
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Good players do need to worry about good players in Smashers

lime sparrow
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uh if a good player knows how to use e100 dpm at t7 then i'd be pretty concerned

stable patrol
midnight lark
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Seems legit

fiery kiln
muted shuttle
stable patrol
gentle rampart
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Hewo

ornate spoke
lime sparrow
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ur saying a good player would fall for that bait

amber sparrow
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do rating battles affect winrate or blitzstars?

sturdy needle
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No

unique lintel
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nope

ornate spoke
lime sparrow
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So would that make them good players💀

ornate spoke
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yes

queen lichen
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Uc, I like to consider myself a good player, just about 2600 WN8 with 2400 average for my 30day, and I would never get baited by that unless tunnel vision go brrr

agile sphinx
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I'd consider myself a good player and I do regularly get baited by things like that. It's partially me being trigger happy but mostly because I lead and preempt every shot to compensate for my unstable ping. It depends on the individual really

queen lichen
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Or that ^^^, I should just stop trying to make myself look like I don’t think the thing is broken as hell and wouldn’t try and push like that

ornate spoke
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i mean, i don't get baited at all pretty much, but that's mainly because I'm always putting myself in situations where I can get shots at range without getting hit rather than very close range, giving my opponents no chance to connect with me

glossy raptor
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A heavy tank camper ^^^

balmy siren
ornate spoke
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would you explain that @balmy siren

balmy siren
ornate spoke
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? ok????

iron orbit
median wagon
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When is the tank changing man...

ornate spoke
# iron orbit So you're basically camping to avoid being shot?

nope, I don't camp, I'm always repositioning. I use my teammates' HP so that I dont have to take the shots, unless I'm in a maus or is4 or something. I wait for the enemies to push one of my teammates and then I farm a bit of damage without going full yolo mode, and that's how I am able to average 3k in tier 10 mediums.

zinc ravine
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So you must be doing some eFFectiVe SniPinG then since campers always want to avoid the word campers

frank widget
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i feel like this community mixes up sniping and camping too often

ebon summit
ornate spoke
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thats my point im not a camper. @zinc ravine my guess is you are just one of those players that gets mad at people that farm damage. It's a known fact that good players get lots of damage by letting their bad teammates yolo and take shots and the enemies' attention, so if you don't like it too bad, deal with it.

rose path
glossy raptor
elfin burrow
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a no life guy

regal cosmos
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Free gold farm

zinc ravine
ornate spoke
agile sphinx
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If you actually used your tanks properly then you would win a lot more, and dealing damage is only helpful if it's effective damage. As spart often repeats, a tank on 1hp still deals the same damage as a tank on full hp.

But anyway this is #rating-battles not #should-i-use-a-heavy-properly

worldly anvil
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flanking in superheavies LOL

floral dock
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i flank in superheavies, frontline with the heavies in lights, camp in mediums, and yolo with my tds. am i good?

native marten
normal garnet
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@ornate spoke ur contradicting urself 🐀

ornate spoke
worldly anvil
ornate spoke
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yes we did the same strat for 4 games and i was averaging 4k, toonmate was doing around 3k but still. we were top every time
also @floral dock i mean, I've tried camping in the vickers and progetto before on canal and castilla respectively in td positions and I was much more effective in those positions than I could've been in any other position for a medium tank

dreamy wind
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:/

native marten
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my mans

I think you just forgot about the medium flank? like the place that most people go to?

ornate spoke
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@native marten relax, ive only done that once in each tank and I topped my team and we won both times. And I would never camp in a real game, only when I am memeing or doing a challenge or something.

waxen garnet
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so is it just me, or did they say that camos would be rotated from diamond -> platinum each season? i coulda sworn than they said that with each season, the current diamond camo would be moved down to platinum, and a new camo would be introduced. but we haven't seen a new platinum camo since ratings camos became a thing?

midnight lark
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I think last season the camos got changed

sick leaf
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It’s not each seasons. It’s like every bunch of seasons

true ridge
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Wargaming can you please for the love of god remove Mines and Fort Despair from ratings, they’re so stupid in regular, ratings is worse

ornate spoke
lime sparrow
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Mines i understand. But I actually like Fort Despair

waxen garnet
agile sphinx
iron zodiac
cinder elm
queen lichen
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Fort Despair I have no problems with, I feel that both sides of the map are effective enough for the tank at T10. The biggest problem I have with Mines is how important the hill can be. Once you take the hill and you have TD support your more or less stuck

ornate spoke
granite yacht
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remind me again why I waste the xtra time it take for ratings battles? I gain NOTHING from the experience other lost EXTRA clock ticks.

worldly anvil
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clock ticks?
Ah, ty

copper mauve
late mural
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New season, same old sht.

  1. Still the useless calibration
  2. Still no rewards for getting more players to play.

WG does not care about making ratings attractive.

granite yacht
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There's no way to win from what I can tell from my skillsets anyways. It's like endless ping/pong up 20,down 17 up 13, down 28 and the nut kicker is I don't even get a lousy T-shirt.. I mean participation camouflage ..😂

worldly anvil
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are you in gold league or something
losing 28 is quite a lot
git gud
literally

agile sphinx
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What's the highest calibration anyone has got so far and what stats did you need for it?

dusty kelp
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3721 this time..7 win 3 lost ..1 ace

amber moss
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Nice

lone thistle
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I’m at 7 games, 5 wins 4488 dpb, not bad for Asia server, can’t play remaining 3 games for 18 hrs tho which sucks, hoping for 4k+ cali

crisp granite
regal cosmos
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Just had a 14 heavy battle lol

agile sphinx
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"No meta change from hp buffs"

native marten
rapid pumice
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Really nice

worldly anvil
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only 4k cali?
ouch
i think ive seen 4.5k cali before
personal highest is 4.3k for me

glossy raptor
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Ive got 4,6 once

agile sphinx
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It feels much harder to calibrate as high as it used to this season which is interesting if WG have changed the system. 80% and 3.9kavg should be super high because a couple of months ago I got 4.3k with 90% and 3kavg but it isn't at all.

snow surge
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Strange...80% and 2.2kav got me 3.9k rating

ruby ocean
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I mean I think it probably has to do more with Wn8? Or XP? I definitely don’t think it’s just damage or only damage and wr

queen lichen
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Well Damage is a huge factor in XP and WN8 so

agile sphinx
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That's what it's actually based on, but damage is a good enough indicator for a rough overview. WN8 isn't a stat created by WG so can't be used unless WG recreate it. This month I got 6 wins and 3.3kavg but only got 3.8k calibration which seems to fit the general trend of lower than expected calibrations.

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floral dock
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You know a map that should be removed from ratings? Port Bay. The map is way to freakin dependent on who’s behind your meds/lights are and what the specific med/lights are. Port Bay, if you lose that far side you basically lost the game. I just accept defeat when ever I see Port Bay honestly since people playing meds/lights always seem to lose immediately

sonic sedge
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War gaming, we don’t need you adding more tier 8 heavies to the other team & giving another team an tier 7 heavy to make up for it! That sort of ‘matching’ is called rigging the battle! Thanks

agile sphinx
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War gaming, we don’t need you adding more tier 8 meds to my team & giving the other an tier 7 med to make up for it! That sort of ‘matching’ is called rigging the battle! Thanks

Wait it works both ways so it's fair? Who'd have thought it? Not me 😀

dapper sun
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Can anyone tell me how many point i need to get the IS6 for this season rating ?

regal cosmos
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You need to get enough parts for it, and that depends on your position on your leaderboard, so you need more points than others, to get enough parts. There’s no minimum amount but maybe if you get enough points earlier on you can just chill and still get the tank at the end of the month

floral dock
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Gonna guess top 5 is gonna be around 5.5k+

orchid light
minor radish
lone thistle
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4100 dpb and I don’t even get platinum calibration........ did 3 last games tonight and all 3 were essentially 7-0 defeats that I couldn’t have changed the outcome of

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regal cosmos
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But a 50wr is a 50wr whether you get 4k or not

lone thistle
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Yeah sadly the amount you win is more important than your performance. Top damage every game except 1, but if the team sucks, so will your calibration I guess 😐

feral fiber
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Lol imagine a guy who won all the 10 games but deal like 1.5k dmg per game gets more rating

winged orchid
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Had:
2x 1st class wins with 4k+ dmg
1x 2nd class loss with almost 5k dmg
1x i played like sh*t loss
Rest average between 2k-3k dmg & wins

floral dock
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Wow ur so good, you can calibrate in platinum using an overpowered tier 8 premium tank!! Wish I had overpowered premium tanks and could be like you!!

Really? Cause I’m pretty sure any player no matter how good or how bad they are will perform better in an OP premium tank than a tech tree tank. Yes it takes some skill to not yolo and know where to push on certain maps but apart from that a lot of it is RNG, teams, and how objectively good your tank is.

iron orbit
winged orchid
floral dock
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You clearly aren’t that great of a player if you think armor is everything

winged orchid
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Lol 😂 😂 😂 👀

Okay I guess I am not a great player and just a Pleb like you, because we should meet then in Platinum fellow 🐒
@floral dock

I am just bad 😭, only 74% WR

floral dock
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Nice reroll account by the way LOL, account created within the past 6 months, 2k battles 74% WR, defo not a reroll account

agile sphinx
rose path
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Bruh why yiz all still moaning over calibration, keep this up and WG will defo start "tweaking MM" for real and we'll all suffer 💀

feral fiber
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Congrats @winged orchid

crisp granite
regal cosmos
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Why is it always a ‘You used strong tenk hence you don’t deserve 4k rating’ when someone shares their rating and the tanks they used. WG puts out op tanks. Can’t blame people for daring to use them. Progetto isn’t even as OP as some other tier 8s

agile sphinx
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It is just much less of an achievement to get high rating in an op tank

warm charm
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Yep, every time some dude just wants to show off their accomplishments he just flames them for using op tanks, man spammed e5 to get into diamond and he complains when I use strong but definitely not op tanks 😩

regal cosmos
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I’ve just been seeing a lot of people posting their rating calibration or whatever rating they reached and someone or the other picks apart their tank usage and tells them they’re not that good or whatever

ornate spoke
crisp granite
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F

scenic torrent
sacred verge
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👌

ornate spoke
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dude with almost 2 million elite xp on annihilator lmao

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WG remove mines from ratings. incredibly one sided map and shouldn't be included

strong sierra
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Remove anyone from under 50% in ratings and make my queue time go from 5 minutes down to under 1 so at least when I loose I can try again faster

zinc ravine
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Yes remove anybody below 50% to somehow make ratings queue times even shorter and obviously not making a already broken game mode even more unplayable

strong sierra
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Yay so much fun to just sit here not being able to play or do anything and then when you finally get in a battle having everyone below in rating by so much that the other team has to have 4 great players just to balance me

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Like idc if I have to fight 7 Vk 100 in my T49 or 7 252 just put me in a freaking battle

native marten
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oh you will care soon

agile sphinx
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Remove players... But make the queue times shorter...?

Man I wish I lived in a world like yours where logic wasn't important

strong sierra
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If you remove the 40%ers it would invite more 50+ because they don't have to deal with idiots all the time

agile sphinx
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There are many more 40%ers in ratings for every 50%er that doesn't play ratings because he can't deal with players that don't play exactly how he wants 🤦‍♀️

floral dock
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The thing I hate the most about 40%ersis they never listen to the call on which way to push. They just freakin push which ever way they like and it costs you the game 70% of the time

agile sphinx
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That is not exclusive to 40%ers at all, if anything it's less common in then more common in the average player who thinks they know everything, it just happens that the 40%ers are wrong more often than other people

radiant jacinth
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why isn't there a min-requirement to play ratings battles?? Having 4 greens under 46% and one at 38% WR is plain absurd.

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either have min requirements or have tiers so you play vs similarly skilled players. Ratings battles are a disgrace to play right now. I had 2 heavies sitting all way in the back sniping while me and another med had to front line the battle. Just no fun to play when the game is like that. Save that nonsense for pub matches.

floral dock
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They should at least make it so that you can’t enter rating if your Honor rating isn’t purple.

Gets rid of big trolls who’s Honor rating is below green

native marten
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from what I can tell a ton of trolls just play normal matches. besides from what I can tell most people here are like "oMg 40%eR rUiniNG mY mATcheS" which unfortunately doesn't get solved with military honor lol

tawny shell
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Ok, I’m all for equal opportunity and all but I’m really not. I think there needs to be some sort of qualifications you need to meet statewise before you can even THINK about pressing battle on ratings. I have found MULTIPLE players in the 30% margin and regularly see 41-46%. (47+ are “ok”) Maybe it will inspire them to get better and that’s a plus.

native marten
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I mean I’m all for changing ratings so it’s not just a stompfest but idk about restrictions on which players can play the gamemode considering it’s already hard enough to get into a match sometimes

tawny shell
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Perhaps it will invite more player to play ratings knowing they are safe from the horde there?

native marten
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Personally I feel like a change to the rewards would be nice, considering most people just do it for the camos which isn’t even the top prize (obviously, not everyone can get the top prize, but there was a surge in ratings players when IS-6F was announced as a reward), then from there on out since there’s actually enough players, working on creating more “equal” matches of some kind will work since you won’t just be taking from an already small playerbase and making it even smaller

barren dragon
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The issue is that playing in rating does not affect the stats. So there are many ppl playing just for fun

glossy raptor
frank widget
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It could have separate stats

next gull
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It has, it is called "rating"

regal cosmos
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Lol yep it does. There’s also the stats for the most played tanks, and it’ll show you the WR through the total battles and total wins for the season

radiant egret
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Ok

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Dose personal rating task play a role or playing without.

twilit laurel
floral dock
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Lol

rose path
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We need calibration for calibration 😂

sonic sedge
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War Gaming won’t change ratings whatsoever, however much us players suggest ways to change it for the better which throws up another conundrum....Which is ‘why won’t WG change ratings to make it better’?
Answer :maybe if they change it so it was actually skill based then they then can’t actually manipulate the ‘teams’ !
Perhaps they should do same tier battles to show a true reflection, but no they can’t do that either !
So no matter whatever brilliant suggestions anyone has, ratings will stay the same to fit the narrative, which is a pity because if it was properly thought out it COULD be really good, hence there are not many players in this mode!

median wagon
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Skill based makes you fight the same skill all the time, it isn’t an enjoyable system if you look at games like call of duty Cold War. If it was in wotb it’d be too slow(added with heavy buffs especially) and you will never find games

ornate spoke
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yep first game of the day, and I get some noob trolling me. I'm running away from a lost flank and he drives out of cover just to block me from getting in. Amazing game, lost 15 points lmao. #BanTheTrollsWG

ornate spoke
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@ornate spoke @ornate spoke

ornate spoke
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@ornate spoke

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@ornate spoke why are you pinging me and friend requesting me?

ornate spoke
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How much higher could I have gotten? I lost 4 of my battles but was doing 3-3.5k each game at tier 8

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ornate spoke
daring loom
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If anyone has the 5k camo on the t22 or the stb1, please could you dm me a picture

ornate spoke
ornate spoke
# ornate spoke I’m gaining like 40-60 points every game. Is that good?

yeah in gold league and under 40-60 points per game is about what i average, so it's pretty good. Plat and diamond league though, you only average like 20 points per win and expect to do less dpb because you are going to be fighting very strong players
for example, last season I was playing progetto 46 some and I was averaging like 1700 dpb in it instead of the 2200+ that i average in pubs because i was playing really good playerss

floral dock
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Hmm 37% WR today and I’m still up points, great teams huh

Sheri and e5. I cba to deal with the premium spam at tier 8

ornate spoke
strong sierra
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Hey muppet, watch out for T49's

strong sierra
midnight lark
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So dont play chimera

strong sierra
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@midnight lark it's any tank I play

fringe flicker
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In game news channel it says top 10 players for ratin battles get gold. How much gold 4 each player?

strong sierra
fringe flicker
orchid light
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Ngl the rewards really aren’t worth the effort

crimson goblet
frank widget
white lotus
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:mader:

tight flame
agile sphinx
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Imagine winning your high dmg games you are flexing :/

muted shuttle
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@quick stratus No Name&Shame here please.

quick stratus
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@muted shuttle That's why, just like in the game, it's full of fools who just ruin the game for others who want to make something.

muted shuttle
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Report them, easy.

quick stratus
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I reported but there is nothing out of it. I suggest that wot ban them for 2 months so they don't have to play anything.

floral dock
radiant egret
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Not counted of daily rating matchs

dusty kelp
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MM works perfect... ratings works perfect.. just loooove those fun games like one today with 5 x tier 8 doing 1500 dmg total..all on my team due to the perfect MM

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Ofc i can just use reporting system which is also perfect 💩

radiant egret
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Rating match gets pretty weird after 3 matches

wraith valve
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Why in the name od god is ratings in night closed ? Is wg normal ? After entire day of school i want to play and they just turn it off,gg clap wg thats not how you gonna make money

copper mauve
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how does school last until 11pm eastern EU time

wraith valve
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If you get up at 11 am ...

copper mauve
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??? You have 12hrs

floral dock
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I swear people who play t22s in rating prolly get bullied irl

dusty kelp
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Lol

native marten
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I swear people who have to constantly voice their opinion about what other tanks people play are just unable to get to that rating and need to find an alternate reason for why they aren't at that rating

ornate spoke
strong sierra
ornate spoke
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yo im still in 3rd, op

strong sierra
ornate spoke
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i dont need first for the fearless

wet kayak
strong sierra
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@wet kayak I'm at 5k and I had someone who was 39%

ornate spoke
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there is always some noob calibrating that gets in your game, pretty much normal now.

floral dock
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Wow I’ve been under 50% WR in ratings 2 days now yet I’m still going up points, don’t you love teams! Averaging 21 points gained on wins and 13 lost on losses

radiant egret
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Rating depend entirely on tanks tier

light junco
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hi

clear python
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Wow

toxic pewter
ornate spoke
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@strong sierra Ik ur pain 😞

glossy raptor
radiant egret
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Chances of winning with smaller tiers is greater

zinc ravine
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Ratings just depend on who has time and has the mental health to keep going

ornate spoke
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pretty much lmao

glossy raptor
radiant egret
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The rating timing of smaller and bigger tier are different

ornate spoke
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hey

idle compass
agile sphinx
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If they rigged the game, then it isn't allowed. If they played like normal then there's absolutely no way to enforce any rules saying countdowns aren't allowed so there's no point having them, so it's acceptable.

ornate spoke
floral dock
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Geez

ornate spoke
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ikr lmao. i said nice countdowns, and all 6 of then reported me. now i got a fckign chat ban

midnight lark
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Oof...
I think Wg will never ban these people's

high arch
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You can do countdowns as long as you don’t play differently

true ridge
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My friends do countdowns, but it’s not for rigging it’s so we can have a friendly competition

floral dock
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It hurts to think how high I could be if I even just had a 50% WR, going up points with a 40-44% WR in tier 10

floral dock
supple igloo
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Bruh in gravity mode one person said to not shoot him because he was going to report anyone who did, and then when i shot him he say he gonna report me and what am i going to do about it, and i said i'll report you if you do this. Then he said cool down. LMAO

warm charm
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._.

floral dock
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It’s too easy to guess the out come of a game before it’s even started. I’m right 90% of the time and 60% of the time it’s obvious the games lost from either unfair team composition to idiots who decide to push where ever the heck they want

radiant egret
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Rating are divided into categories were the winning teams has the outcome

floral dock
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?? Wdym

rose path
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@floral dock Sounds like an interesting Blitz project, imagine a mod that could calculate a chance of winning by data crunching every player's stats realtime and have stuff like wr/wn8 visible in the tab lineup view. Theoretically possible considering the traffic between blitz and cluster can be intercepted and read though parsing is a whole other story

radiant egret
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It is base on chances.
Therefore, probably and possibly are the only outcome of chance. Then, if winning is a chance the outcome should be equivalent for both.

stoic panther
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Hola all

indigo panther
ornate spoke
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._.

limpid aspen
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noice

floral dock
# radiant egret It is base on chances. Therefore, probably and possibly are the only outcome of ...

It’s not though. You have a higher chance of winning if your team has more/objectively better lights/meds. Your team has a high chance of winning if your team has 3 meds and all 3 are tier 10s where the enemy team only has 1 med and it’s a tier 9 med. that’s the biggest problem with matchmaker in both ratings and regular. The matchmaker just throws random tanks into a game not looking at the class of tank and only slightly looking at player statistics to make the average WR on each team close to each other. The fact that you can guess how a game is gonna end by just looking and seeing who has more/better meds really says something. However it can also go the other way. Matchmaker can give 1 team double mauses (not in a toon) and the other team will get like 1 amx 50 B or no heavies at all. Like do you really think that’s fair? But I do agree that the game is very heavily RNG based. Let’s be real, my 90 year old grandma could aim at the weak spot of a tank and hit the fire button. Beyond that it’s all RNG, weather your shell goes slightly too high and bounces or slightly too low and dunks into tracks doing no damage. Killing crew and damaging modules (other than tracks) all RNG. It doesn’t take skill to 1 shot ammo rack people and when it happens the games basically over, sure you could argue that you an aim at someone’s ammo rack but be real. Most of times when you 1 shot ammo rack someone you just randomly shot at the side of their tank and then boom, you get an ammo rack. Causing fires? Again all RNG. Really the only skill in the game that defines good players from bad is game sense. Knowing where to push on certain maps and knowing what the enemy team might be doing based off experience on the map. I feel that the game has too many RNG factors that delude the amount of skill in the game. Like the fact that you high roll and the enemy low rolls, that’s not skill it’s no where near skill.

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The fact that low rolling or high rolling can be the difference between winning or losing shouldn’t really be a thing.

frank widget
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so what youre suggesting is we change the premise of the entire game

radiant egret
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@floral dock given maps are highly recommended for both team with strategic plan on playable mode

copper mauve
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^ this guy do be spitting random things tho ngl

floral dock
# frank widget so what youre suggesting is we change the premise of the entire game

No. I realize there isn't much you can do about the RNG factor (I just wanted to rant about it to get it off my chest) but you can easily change the matchmaking factor (no I don't want SBMM). It wouldn't be hard to make the matchmaker make FAIR team compositions and it wouldn't increase the queue time by that much because it does sometimes give fair team compositions. Matchmaker needs to look at what tank and what type that tank is instead of just looking at WR to try and balance the WRs on both teams.

Also @copper mauve I'm pretty sure the guy is using google translate or something cause it's quite obvious english isn't his first language

radiant egret
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Rating battle.
Completing battles at rating mode are only recommended base on personal mission/daily mission tasks as given. Playing as regular would just be unachievable

agile sphinx
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Having more meds does not mean you are more likely to win, because individuals performance in different tank types is not the same across everyone. It's so random it's completely balanced.

The matchmaker should not give each team the same tank types because otherwise you just end up with the same boring game styles constantly. No matchmaker looks at WR (except for maybe in special game modes but that's irrelevant) it looks at the average rating.

floral dock
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Ah another thing to rant about. Daily missions involving winning ratings battles. The whole point of it that I can see is to try and get people to go and play ratings, but all it does is get a bunch of brainless kids in ratings just yoloing or doing what ever since they are only there to win 3 battles for their mission and don't care about anything else. I think if you are gonna have ratings missions you need more detailed missions that aren't just win 3 battles and that have their own reward path. This would increase players for multiple seasons instead of just for 3 battles and the players that do come will actually try to do good as the missions could include things like achieve a certain rating and things like that. If rating missions are gonna be a thing I think there should be like a campaign that you get progressively harder missions to complete in ratings and also with it progressively better rewards until you get some grand reward of a limited tank like the is6 fearless except it wouldn't just be a reskin of whats become a meh tank, it would be a new tank that you can only get by completing said mission sets.

clear python
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@floral dock

floral dock
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? I don’t get why people ping others without saying anything

covert wind
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@clear python

versed orchid
blazing prawn
hollow lintel
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Hey, Germans here?

floral dock
rose path
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Yes those daily ratings missions makes such a pain in the bollocks when whitestat geniuses are swarming the MM thus dont bother putting in the effort where plenty others are in it for the win

ornate spoke
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Yqiks

muted shuttle
midnight lark
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German Server
Best Panzer Server

orchid light
# floral dock It’s not though. You have a higher chance of winning if your team has more/objec...

Imo meds don’t define who wins. A good heavy tank player matters more than a good medium. The heavy is the anvil, and the medium is the hammer. The team revolves around the heavy.

Another thing. Matchmaking in ratings is incredibly balanced. There is no more than +-1 for tank types, and it uses your rating skill to balance the skill set (while not ideal it works). If you have a tier 9 med and they have a tier x med, then you have a tank type that is a higher tier than the enemies tank type. Use that to your advantage. If it’s a TD, try to get your team to be more defensive. If it’s a heavy, try to get your team to revolve around him, and hopefully the heavy knows when to make a critical push. As for different types of tanks within a class (amx 50b vs maus) you can also use that to your advantage. The mm does not need changed

crisp granite
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It's the players that need to change

fervent swan
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the Matchmaker should be based on Damage Dealt/Taken ratio

native marten
# fervent swan the Matchmaker should be based on Damage Dealt/Taken ratio

if a person averages 3k no matter the tank at t10 and we also assume they have a 100% death rate which is unrealistic but it's fine we do it for the sake of getting some numbers
mediums will have roughly 1.5 DR
heavies will have roughly have 1-1.2 DR
TDs will also have around 1.5 DR
and the vickers light will have 1.6 DR (i only do this because it has one of the lowest base hp at t10)

the matchmaker would really be screwed since if you pair people by DR, heavy players will be viewed as "worse" than medium players simply because they have more hp to lose

fervent swan
native marten
# fervent swan I said damage dealt / taken ratio It is not death rate

if someone does 3k damage

in a t62a with hp equipment, that's roughly a 1.5 DR (which is a damage dealt/taken ratio)
in a maus with roughly 3k hp, that's around a 1 DR (do 3k, take 3k)
in a vickers light with 1.8k hp, that's around 1.6 DR (do 3k, take 1.8k)

uc what I'm getting at now?
of course nobody's gonna die every single game, but point is, heavy players will likely have a lower DR just because they have more HP that can potentially be lost

agile sphinx
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@fervent swan My lowest damage ratio at tier 10 is the maus. That also happens to be the tank with the best stats. My fifth highest damage ratio tank is the E4, which is one of my lowest WR tanks.

Not only is it totally based off what tank you play, it encourages caning which we really really don't want to do.

fervent swan
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There are many players grinding WR at tier 6 and playing op tanks Only two things I can think of right now are removing 3 rating wins mission and implementing a better tier system

native marten
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tier 6 isn't even part of ratings though

floral dock
# orchid light Imo meds don’t define who wins. A good heavy tank player matters more than a goo...

I dont think you realize how hard it is to get your team to listen to anything unless it's like a tourney team and your all sitting together in a VC and you all know each other and will listen to each others call outs. Also what you said about +-1 with types of tanks is completely false. I could get some screenshots from todays rating once its open. And yes maybe for tourneys heavy tanks are more important than the mediums but in pubs weather it be regular or ratings if the meds lose med side (on maps where the team splits, like port bay) then the team loses the game almost all the time

queen lichen
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^^^ meds and lights are critical to a team’s success. Sure, you could just roll in in E5’s or IS-4’s and Maus but who will spot? Who will assist with flanks and create crossfires? There’s a whole technical side im winning games and it’s not all about brute force. A successful team has a variety of tank classes and a variety of tanks within those classes

orchid light
# floral dock I dont think you realize how hard it is to get your team to listen to anything u...

Teams in ratings can be surprisingly cooperative if you are nice (as far as teams can be). And if they arent, then you can still make the best of a bad situation. And what you are saying about the +-1 tank class is false. WG changed the MM so that there would be no more than 1 more of a certain tank class on the opposing team. I just looked through my rating games of last night. As for losing the med side of a map, yes that is true but that is also true if you lose the heavy side. Also I’m not sure what rating you are but in high rating (4500+) teams are cooperative. I expect lower ratings arent.

@queen lichen
I’m not saying meds aren’t critical, heavies and meds are the most critical. Imo spotting is kinda overrated. How much more spotting dmg does a light tank get? Not much. The maps are too small. Spotting is only super useful in the first min, in a pub match. Please note that I was never saying that you don’t need meds to win, you do. I was simply saying a good heavy tank player can change the outcome of a battle easier than a good medium (with all the buffs heavy tanks have gotten).

fervent swan
orchid light
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Then we will have to agree that we disagree. My point remains, communication is key and mm is very balanced

midnight lark
radiant egret
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Easy and understandable communication could be a key to winning as it plays a vital role through out different modes.

glossy raptor
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@radiant egret So you want a voice chat so you become deaf from all the screaming harassments?

@N.Z.#1459 Sadly all the people who complain at others usually dies first, but maybe blocking would be useful

lime sparrow
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Well u can always turn it off after u die, or block people
WG should add a block option by now

radiant egret
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@glossy raptor those messages which are already there are good enough for winning

glossy raptor
radiant egret
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@glossy raptor rating mode is very addictive for league climbing. It get frustrated sometimes due to miscommunication and lack of strategic planning

ornate spoke
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its true. teams dont want to follow your advice and it becomes frustrating

queen lichen
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Then follow your own advice and farm damage while they act like muppets

floral dock
# orchid light Teams in ratings can be surprisingly cooperative if you are nice (as far as team...

im at 4700+ and yes in each game there is 1 or 2 other people on the team who arent low 3k or 2k bots thats still only a total of 3 or 2 people who actually know what they are doing and listen to call outs. and although im a pretty fast typer its not that easy to type in the middle of a game saying what to do or trying to tell not so smart team mates information on the map. if i had a penny for each time ive had some team mate being the last guy alive in an easily clutchable game (with me and the rest of the team is telling him advice on what to do like "shoot he" or "cap some base") they dont listen to us and then throw the game. id be rich. the amount of players who dont know how to play supremacy is also so sad. the amount of times ive been in a heavy and theres been a low hp med or light and there's only heavies left on the enemy team, ill tell the med/light to go cap a base and so will the rest of the team. But you know what that med does? instead he goes and yolos at the remaining enemy players and then the enemy team wins because they got extra points from the kill.

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Ive been stuck at 4700-4800 for 3 days now, each day below 50% WR with my avg dmg above 2.5k

ornate spoke
floral dock
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The thing that makes losing battles so painful is that on average its taking 5 minutes to get into a game. waiting 5 minutes in a queue to then lose the battle because of 1 or 2 people on the team who dont know how to listen

ornate spoke
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yep, and it takes longer sometimes

agile sphinx
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About 2.2k average and 48% is all you need to break even lmao 😂😂

floral dock
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even less, i pushed up 200 points with a 44% and 2,2k avg

warm charm
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lol ratings now is just players with big egos calling each other noobs, mostly cuz all the good players realized that ratings is a complete waste of time and dont play them anymore

radiant egret
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Completing a rating mode daily task or personal task as given should have a possibility of league climbing than playing it regularly.

desert walrus
floral dock
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uhh that says 9 games

desert walrus
floral dock
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Ah

strange spire
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Seen some people hit diamond in 50 games

frank widget
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Yeah but they use anni so it doesnt count

ornate spoke
agile sphinx
ornate spoke
strong sierra
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@frank widget I hit diamond in under 50 games without using an Anni

agile sphinx
ornate spoke
strong sierra
agile sphinx
# ornate spoke i wasnt saying tier x, im talking about tier 8 games. in order to make points in...

Oh you mean just purely losing games? Wow it's almost as if... You shouldn't be able to gain points when you lose if you can't lose points when you win? You can rn and it's not even that hard you can do it with second classes, so the system is obviously flawed and too easy to gain points in the first place...

But anyway you aren't going to lose every game especially if you play competently, so looking at individual games as an indicator of how hard it is to go up points is a bit flawed.

ornate spoke
strong sierra
ornate spoke
floral dock
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I pushed from 4400 to 4600 with a 44% WR

strong sierra
floral dock
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Agreed

ornate spoke
strong sierra
floral dock
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Just had a Vickers light camp on heavy hill on castilla. Dont you love teams

ornate spoke
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that was me in pubs lmao. I've actually done that like 4 times on different td maps and i won every time and did 4k

floral dock
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Yea except when we only had 1 light and that 1 light camps, well no one is spotting then. And when I'm playing a 183 well I'm not gonna be out spotting anyone

limber ermine
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I can can probably finish an anime episode with the wait times ratings is

floral dock
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true, queue times are honestly longer than actual play time

slender kelp
burnt skiff
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Rating battle, 2 minute search, 3.5k average, half team at 3k = BALANCE

(4.4k)

velvet ginkgo
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Someone really do ratings? Just spamming battles and go quit to menu are more worth it than getting stressed by low iq because of hard carry yet u still get minus in ratings lmao. Don't waste time in ratings, even if u do just spam battles and afk, u should concern ur mental health rather than carrying those pubs 😂

ornate spoke
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ok, I would like to know how someone in sitting at well over 5200 points right now. I see 4-5 of their clanmates in every game, and yet ticketing them does nothing. I thought WG permabans game-riggers and countdowners, but this is kind of sad. This one player is going to get a free tank/5k gold for cheating. Seriously people, git gud. Cheating is for muppets.

regal cosmos
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There was someone who reported on a different server that them and their 10 clan mates got a 1 day ban because they did countdowns for ratings

ornate spoke
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wowwwwwwww a 1 day ban, like that does anything. Dude gains 60 points per hour in diamond league and hes getting a 1 day ban for it

wind peak
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Why i cant farm rating with grille.

blazing prawn
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I would like to see a gamemode (or ratings reword) of teams based of 30 day win rate in a tank, for example, if i have a 55 wr in maus but 50 overall i will play with people with 55 wr in the tank theyre using

wind peak
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Then you will have to wait like 5 min in a queue instead of 30 sec

floral dock
ornate spoke
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ofc not

blazing prawn
wind peak
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well i played with 1250 rated player as i was being 4k at the same time. And i send a ticket about this stupid matchmaking situation for rating battles. They just said "This is best balancd matchmaking as they are summing all ratings and they need to be closed as much as supposed to be."

floral dock
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i completely agree with you though, the current NA #1 and anyone who helped to feed him should be perm banned

blazing prawn
ornate spoke
floral dock
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Thing is if wargaming gave 2 fricks about rating, the gamemode would have undergone changes. Whether it be new missions that are ratings only or even implementing something that prevents countdowns, like not allowing people who are in the same clan be in the same game. You could argue changes like not allowing people in the same clan to be in the same game would increase queue time, but the solution to that is getting more people to play ratings. The solution to getting more players, is giving more and better incentives to play the gamemode. The solution to that is introducing missions that can only be completed in ratings and require players to actually try and climb the ranks in rating (not the win 3 in ratings bull crap). The rewards to the missions would need to actually be good (not just boosters or credits), like eventually for completing the final mission in the mission series (which would be like be #1 at the end of a season) you would get a new ratings exclusive tier 10 collector tank (not just a fricken reskin of some talk already out there). These missions would bring more players and then fix the problem of long queue times and would also allow for the matchmaker to be updated to add things like not allowing people who are in the same clan to be in the same game, or even be pushed further to prevent people who you have on your friends list to be in your game.

ornate spoke
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well said, though I think disallowing players of the same clan to be in the same game wouldn't work. First of all, my friends and I who are all in different clans countdown in fun gamemodes sometimes so we can be against each other. My point is that countdowners don't have to be in the same clan. Also, a lot of the time players in the same clan getting in the same game is just coincidence. I mean, my clan family has like 75-80 people in it and I see them all the time without countdowning. What WG really should do is completely discourage countdowners by warning that countdowning is a permabannable offense, and actually making it reportable. Right now whenever you ticket countdowners WG only sends you (probably automated) messages about them needing more evidence. I mean, really? All the evidence you need is right there. There are 3 players from the same clan that are immediately throwing the game by just yoloing and allowing their other clanmate to get all the damage. But they really do need to change the rewards. And unfortunately, campaign missions aren't coming because WG wants to make money off the new and mediocre players in this game instead of giving players who have been around for a while rewards.

soft shell
ornate spoke
soft shell
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Throwing matches for clanmates is already a reason you can get banned but thats not what I'm talking about. You said countdowns need to be able too get people banned if that happens any match people see 3 members who of same clan not in a toon will get sent in for a ticket which is just bs in my opinion cause as I said I'd been banned long time ago if that was added cause clans that have fedder/dev clans will have to worry about bad matching and getting banned

ornate spoke
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Yes, I don't oppose countdowning and getting in the same game with your friends/clanmates as long as you intend to actually fight each other. What I do oppose is clanmates purposefully countdowning with you and then throwing the game by allowing you to farm them. In addition, it's worse because this is ratings, and it's supposed to be a competition. Competition is ruined when people cheat.

soft shell
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Yeah but this is already a banable offence just record the match and send it into wg and be done with it I just dont know why you said Wg should I quote "What Wg really should do is completely discourage countdowns by warning that countdowning is a permabannable offense".

ornate spoke
regal cosmos
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I know someone got banned for a day. They know its due to countdowns in ratings, and 10 of their clanmates were also banned for it

floral dock
floral dock
queen lichen
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If they were rigging with intent to force a win on on one side then they should be punished. If they were matched together out of sheer coincidence, then there should be little or no repercussions

floral dock
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Agreed^^^ but I feel the whole problem can be avoided all together if they don’t allow clan mates in the same game

native marten
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whiiiich is a problem
the ratings playerbase is already small
and then the top players are, well, probably from top clans
there's not that many top clans
so basically you're taking an already tiny number, cutting it down, then making it so that it has to follow all the matchmaking stuff as well with tanks types, and then you have to make sure that the averages work as well
and this is all on the off-chance that they're intentionally throwing matches to each other
and not to mention there's no way to say that something like _V2_ is part of the void family (awful wording by me, don't get me wrong it is, but the game has no way of knowing this) so while you restrict _V2_ playing with _V2_ you don't restrict _V_ with _V2_

floral dock
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Maybe read my post @native marten from 1:05PM EST. Please dont jump into a conversation on something without reading all the posts regarding the conversation

native marten
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point still stands; name the top clans on NA (or any server really), and then those are generally the people at the top of the leaderboard. regardless of how many new players go into the gamemode, they're generally worse than players from top clans. you'd still have extremely long queue times just because the top of the leaderboards won't have much of a change

like when they first introduced is6f into ratings, you don't suddenly see 20 Javier_gonzalez_2014s getting into top 50

floral dock
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On a different note, I don’t get how some people can be so petty. Just had some batchat push me out to get nuked by a 183 just cause I bumped into him and was trying to turn around. Like, you realize this is a team game? And the fact you just pushed me out to be hit by a 183 just lowered our chances of winning significantly?

ornate spoke
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im just trying to stay in top 20, because if i dont id end up with only 95 parts .

prisma gull
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mmm

floral dock
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I'm just trying to stay top 20 so then next season I only need top 30

ornate spoke
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im in top 5 for now, but im just trying to get enough points for top 20 and going afk, so dont worry for me being competition.

floral dock
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Currently chat banned @orchid light if your wondering why I didn’t respond :/

floral dock
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What a joke, got into diamond then dropped back to plat after losing 2 games to A: A VK72 that flanked on mines, and B: A Leo 1 that did 0 damage on Faust

orchid light
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@floral dock at least you went up today. I went up around 150

Also about the thing where you said clan members shouldn’t be able to be in the same match, it’s not really fair. I’ve had tons of games where people say my clan is count downing, but I’ve never done a countdown in ratings before, nor have any of my clans done it

limber ermine
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f, I just do 100 a day

floral dock
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I mean I’m not that mad, I went from 5 days in a row with a winrate below 50% and a avg damage around 2.3k going up 0 points to today, where I had a 65% winrate and went up 300 points.

vocal spoke
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@tulip ermine

serene robin
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When will the Polish line be in the world of Tanks Blitz?

copper mauve
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@serene robin we know that the Pudel and 50TPP exist, meaning we have a high likelihood of getting more Polish tanks

serene robin
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THX

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Because I'm from Poland and I would like to have, for example, Pudel, TKS 20 and 60TP

ornate spoke
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elfin burrow
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Update 7.7 bro

ornate spoke
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Tiger 1 need buff its always burning and sorry for my english

floral dock
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You guys realize this is #rating-battles? Not the right place to be talking about new lines or tanks that need buffs

ornate spoke
# floral dock What a joke, got into diamond then dropped back to plat after losing 2 games to ...

ye that happened to me yesterday too. But there really is no way to prevent rigging except for WG to just ban them. I have a lot of void players and v2 players and other players that I see in ratings every single game in my friends list, so should I be banned. No! Players that intentionally throw games to their friends/clanmates however, should be permabanned with no chance for an appeal.

floral dock
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I guess, but for wargaming to ban them it would mean wargaming would need to actually care about ratings, and then that leads back to my post yesterday about what would happen if wargaming actually cared about ratings

ornate spoke
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yes

agile sphinx
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From supports perspective it's also pretty hard to be certain someone's rigging unless they are being very very stupid about it. They could be rigging, just making a series of bad mistakes, or playing drunk etc. It's a definite problem that needs addressing but it's a very hard one to address consistently and fairly without everything coming down to one customer service employee who might not even play the game.

ornate spoke
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That's my point, WG don't give enough thought to catching and punishing cheaters. It's extreme sus when the NO1 NA player rn is sitting at like 5300 points, second with less than 5100, and then I see 5 players from the same clan in the same game. 4 of them don't want to fight and just let one player on the enemy team farm them. Oh wow, it's their clanmate. What a surprise!

floral dock
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As far as I know the current #1 NA just came out of no where a couple days ago and boom! He was suddenly #1. I would be willing to bet that when you make a report with a whole game replay file in it, they don’t even take the time to watch the whole thing

floral dock
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Ratings? More like queue simulator

civic comet
ornate spoke
ornate spoke
floral dock
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Smh now I'm stuck between 4950 and 5100, keep getting into diamond then losing and dropping back to plat

ornate spoke
floral dock
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Suprem is such a bad mode

ornate spoke
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ik

floral dock
ornate spoke
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@floral dock tier 8 is a little easier sometimes

floral dock
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I dont think I should play today... averaging 2.7k with 22% wr. Also I tried tier 8 yesterday, way too much toxic premium spam for me

ornate spoke
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oooooof. only tank i am playing well in today is emil 1 for some reasn

forest pier
floral dock
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It's not that I'm not playing well, it's that my teams have less than 2 brain cells. The most annoying thing is that when ever my team loses I seem to do like 3k+ but then when we win I only do like 2k. And well unless I'm a psychic it's kinda hard to get teammates to do anything while chat banned

ornate spoke
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ye. that is how teams work usually. Besides you're driving sheridan which is a tough tank to get a ton of damage out in bc of the very poor dpm

floral dock
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Any way of knowing when the next double season is?

ornate spoke
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not to my knowledge, im pretty sure that info is only released right before the season starts

smoky jacinth
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Do your ratings points get any type of adjustment when playing down or up tier?

floral dock
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No clue