#rating-battles

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feral fiber
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Is heavy used too much in rating battle or isit just me

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Seen matches with 5 heavies on both side

pallid arch
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That is what the totally necessary heavy buff did

lime sparrow
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Heavy meta 😎

median wagon
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Dumb heavy buffs

feral fiber
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Lol i mean i dont mind cos i use the t34 in rating

median wagon
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Before heavies could actually be played carefully, but not anymore because you can afford to take too many hits

feral fiber
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So the buff was completely unnecessary?

median wagon
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They made heavies OP

feral fiber
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I kinda wish i bought the 252u(if i had the money)

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Its op in wot pc

neat slate
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So I lost two games after calibration then won two so now im at 4k. Gonna leave it there for now, really dont feel like testing my luck anymore lmao

native marten
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honestly playing early on in the season if you don’t have to is pain because if people get a bad calibration or something the teams in terms of average ratings are gonna be close but the skill level gap is huge

pine falcon
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I personally got very bad calibration but my teams are amazing right now

median wagon
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Also that match was unfair, the enemy’s average though

neat slate
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these unbalanced early calibration teams are working in my favour so much lol. Wonder how long that will last

dim heron
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Rating time finished here 4044 rating as if now. Will try to go top this time. Last time i quit at 5114 20 days earlier. Should have pushed and would have gotten some 80 parts

pine falcon
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like reaching 4K is very nice on the first day.

glacial junco
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@dim heron don’t think of the following as of something offensive, but I have doubts about that- the higher you are in rating, the less you gain per game. When you hit ~5700 it becomes VERY difiicult to gain more than 7 points per match, even a very good one.

dim heron
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I will have to try.

median wagon
pine falcon
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@median wagon personally I feel like playing more actively and spotting enemies bring you a lot more points in the region 3500-4500. After that you either use a fast heavy or a semi-armored medium

median wagon
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I never understood why noobs go in ratings

pine falcon
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for missions

undone vortex
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And to explore a new game mode

pine falcon
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and most importantly to grind credits

median wagon
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I really enjoy having professional teams, especially losing 7-0

median wagon
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Damn ratings today is worser than ever

worldly anvil
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its the end of the school year
all the younger players are out
🤔

lime sparrow
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Ik. Even public matches are unbearable.

median wagon
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No, pubs are 100% better

lime sparrow
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I honestly don’t know. I’m always getting paired with “NUB TEAM” spammers and the afkers.
And the YOLOers who go into infested areas with a block of ice shoved up their cracks.

I somehow see less of that in Ratings

median wagon
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Or the camping smashers

native marten
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it's not bad players, just unintentional features lmao

median wagon
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👌 losing points is soo entertaining

woeful token
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MM is bad these days

hazy bronze
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Man I hope today I can make it to 5k some today I am at 4600

pallid arch
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Tier 1 only ratings would be epic

ornate spoke
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It would be chaos

median wagon
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It would be more balanced, because every single tier 1 is the same

native marten
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imagine ratings but everyone is driving pre-nerf Ke-ni otsu

versed thunder
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i wish bronze players couldnt get into gold games

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id rather have longer que and better battles

worldly anvil
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some players are different
also it allows u to have more farming opportunity

pallid arch
covert temple
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🥶

hazy bronze
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Oof

lime sparrow
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Ahahahahhaaaaa

ornate spoke
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ratings on fire today

hazy bronze
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Oof

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Well not for me

neat slate
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20 mins before ratings became unavailable I played 2 games and lost both. I definitely do not regret playing lol

pallid arch
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I think I'm gonna call it a day after climbing 700

neat slate
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@pallid arch whats your rating at

pallid arch
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The low value of 3638

radiant cypress
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and you couldn't be proud of with that, it seems im going to start with mid 2000, i lose 2 matches of 5 so tomorrow will be difficult for me,

pallid arch
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Heh heh, I'm salty af, stopping before I explode

radiant cypress
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me either lol thats a horrible habit

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and should quit before its too late

hazy bronze
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Now queue going take min now

ornate spoke
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I have a question. If I play a tank in ratings like the T6 Dracula or the Smasher, where I can't add a cammo, what happens? If I play 50+ games but can't fit a camo, does it just not work? Or can I use it for another tank?

muted shuttle
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@ornate spoke Credits compensation if I'm not mistaken

ornate spoke
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Oh, well then thanks for the answer :)

tough breach
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Seriously. I’m normally 3000 + in ratings I just ended up 2300. Top 3 every battle. But the teams were awful. It takes the fun out of it. It really does. The matchmaking is all over the place.

pine falcon
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Sorry, but I have to share this

sonic sedge
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oh yeah, share the results!@pine falcon

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Lucky that teams meds went the town route because the lemmings insisted on going the river route even though the enemy team had more meds!

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It helps to look at the enemy team 1st BEFORE making decisions!

steel ingot
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Why don’t you go with him?

pine falcon
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You literally said "The enemy team have faster tanks" when the lineups were almost the same. Secondly, you said and I quote "We lose"

sonic sedge
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As I just posted above

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The T49 came to help too 😁

pine falcon
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We had a chimera, a Pantera and a T49 for meds/lights. They had a T44/Ru251 and progetto. So mediums were literally on par in the mobility aspect. As heavies they had two 252, a vk100. We had 2 252s, a defender (in which I would oneclip the TD which they had) and a T34. So yeah, pretty balanced in terms of mobility I would say. So yeah, saying that we should go to town seems pretty unreasonable

warm charm
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Also going town never works, C has the high ground and town has no hull down cover, so regardless of what mobility ur team has u always go C

sonic sedge
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@pine falcon funny how I scored more than you, now how did that happen!? Also the T49 has weak armour & the shells bounce off most frontal armour so would have been fairly useless going over the river, which is why he didn’t, go figure!

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Have fun all 😁👋

warm charm
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The t49 would destroy the ru and can pen the t44 and the progetto frontally lmao

neat slate
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Stevo on your team = auto win, dont complain

pine falcon
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I got 5 shots that penned (with one heat shell fired). You had 4 shots. Also the difference is 24 damage. + I spotted one enemy.

sonic sedge
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@neat slate I didn’t start this! 🤦‍♂️

pine falcon
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nice nice. Lets see if you can get to 4K this season

dim heron
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Never started before losing 5 in row in rating

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From 4044 straight to 4004

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3990 6 lose in row. Exciting

final bloom
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Question to any devs that may see this - what’s the point of ratings battles when clans can do count ins during calibration with six players in game? Kinda defeats the purpose doesn’t it?

worldly anvil
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theres nothing wrong with count ins or count downs unless you rig it
i would think
otherwise it would be stupid if 3+ people can get banned or chat banned or whatever purely because they're in the same game and have the same clan tag
ik you asked a dev but it is highly unlikely a dev will see that
@final bloom

neat slate
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@dim heron same thing happened to me. Hit 4.1k, immediately lost 3 in a row lol

final bloom
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@worldly anvil I’ve had 3 friends from 3 clans get bans in the last month for ratings count-ins and they did nothing more than what I saw yesterday
In general, I see nothing wrong with count-ins, but 1) they need to be consistent with how they handle these situations and 2) if ratings are supposed to show “skill” (which we know isn’t really true), then it kinda defeats the purpose when people can do count-ins

worldly anvil
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@final bloom oh i think there is a thread on a wotb discussion page that had a similar situation. I cant find it, but basically what happened was they did count ins, and people sent a ticket for rigging since most of the time one team won heavily. I think they sent an appeal or something with proof they weren’t rigging, and their ban got shortened, but a message from the thread’s author was its best not to do count ins in ratings

sonic sedge
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It would be good if this statement is factual, but unfortunately it’s not! ‘Perform well in battle but if the team we’ve put you with don’t then you’ll still lose points, haha’ , would be more appropriate!

cosmic cypress
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You can still gain points if you actually perform well

dim heron
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Its funny how the 60 winrate are getting carried by 50 winrate in rating battles all the time every battle. Proves they got 0 skills

neat slate
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Because winrate can so easily be inflated

dim heron
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@cosmic cypress Take a shower.

covert temple
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Imagine how hard it is to keep a 100 wr

muted shuttle
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@sonic sedge Shall we create a new channel just for your whining about ratings?

undone vortex
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Its funny how the 60 winrate are getting carried by 50 winrate in rating battles all the time every battle. Proves they got 0 skills
@dim heron lol wut so the 60% is a fake 60% then

restive dawn
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That 100wr is from like 1 match

The rest of that 1k battles are rating battles

cosmic cypress
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@dim heron u ping me why?

dim heron
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Nah. Sorry

mossy badger
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wait i want to see that ngl @muted shuttle

bleak crest
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Funny how 40% wr players get to the diamond league playing expensive premium tanks...

glossy raptor
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Do it please

median wagon
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Do it

lime sparrow
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Throw in Cancracker as well

native marten
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Quality entertainment

bleak crest
median wagon
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Bruh you’ll be downtiered, just play tier 8

neat slate
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why are you playing tier 7 in ratings

bleak crest
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For x2 exp and other bonuses. I don’t care about the rating.

lime sparrow
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Currently at 3.5k with only my e75

muted shuttle
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@bleak crest "I don't care about the rating" I should probably pin this one ))

ornate spoke
bleak crest
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Why should I care? It gets reset, it’s just the same as random so no need to worry about it.

desert kite
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@bleak crest "I don't care about the rating" I should probably pin this one ))
Do it

glossy raptor
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Dew it

crimson goblet
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its not like he and stevo both constantly whine about how "bad" rating is made 😂

dawn beacon
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I wonder if it really is rating that’s “bad”😂

desert kite
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🤣 excellent

pine falcon
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Funny how 40% wr players get to the diamond league playing expensive premium tanks...
@bleak crest and funny how you, a 60% can't get to diamond.

native marten
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literally anybody who loses a match: well okay that sucks
cancracker and stevo: BrUh RiGgEd MaTcHmAkInG

crimson goblet
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i love it when ppl think rating is about what tanks you play or how good you are...its just about how much you can play it, e.g. the more games the higher you get, being good just makes it easier, i really miss the competitive aspect of ratings

desert kite
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If you want to get to diamond just spam 1000-2000 battles within the season. Nothing more

median wagon
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The trash I have to put up with in ratings... smh(yeah I rushed though, bad play from me)

desert kite
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Don’t we all know that camping in a heavy while capping on encounter is the best thing to do?🤡

lime sparrow
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What equipment should I buy for my 75 btw

lone ether
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LOL

dawn beacon
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@crimson goblet it gets really competitive once you reach over 6k. Then you loose the same amount of points you gain by winning.

crimson goblet
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yea but its just soo teamdepended that it just really is how many more battles than others can you spam

median wagon
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Ratings is trash

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Noobs play it because they don’t realise they’re noobs and they want to have the fearless

hazy bronze
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Spam battle really important in later stages of rating but in early it important just to wins

fallen mortar
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ive never been blocked more often than in ranked im a turretless td and people always drive in front of me even other tds so i cant use my 4200 dpm even if there are enemys

median wagon
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I’ve never been called a “bot” this many times until I played ratings, it is pure toxic in ratings

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I receive hate because apparently I was camping in 252u when I was holding a hill

fallen mortar
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havent been called a bot in a long time

median wagon
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Have you been called other things then?

fallen mortar
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noob thats it

dawn beacon
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@crimson goblet it isn’t at all. I’ve been there last season and once you reach over 6k the amount of battles means absolutely nothing. It’s all about how much you can do to help your team win.

ivory pike
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Hey how can i craft Door in minecraft ?

undone vortex
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@ivory pike you need roughly 1000 rating battles to craft one

pine falcon
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@ivory pike You first need to get 2 blocks of the same type of wood. After which, convert the two blocks into wooden planks. You should get 8 wooden planks. You only need 6 wooden planks for the job, so you get throw away the other 2. Go into a crafting table and fill the first and second column of the 9 box crafting table menu with the wood. The door item icon should appear and all you have to do is click it. (yes, I know it is a meme)

median wagon
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You should place them horizontally

undone vortex
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After of which you should buy Gold from Wotb shop and buy a tier X and jump into a couple of rating games

median wagon
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No consumables, only HE,no provisions and no equips

desert kite
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Drive backwards to bounce more shots, and go frontline

hazy bronze
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So that so true

desert kite
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Once you reached your goal (dying within the 1st min of the game), trashtalk your teammates until the end of the battle (hopefully a loss, you won’t get to 30% wr that easily)

neat slate
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I started higher than I usually start at, so I hope I will reach diamond

sonic sedge
hazy bronze
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Lol

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Just here wait for get in 2 Match 2 mins in queue

lime sparrow
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Stevo out here with the 1k dmg games 😳

hazy bronze
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Man not a lot of people of playing today man can’t get too match

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For what be facing on enemy team he not do terrible

ornate spoke
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Why I didn't receive parts of IS-6 ? I was in Diamond league

lime sparrow
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did u finish in diamond league

hazy bronze
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If have diamond league avatar then take pic

lyric parrot
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To play ratings you not only should have a 100 crew but also some amount of battles in your tank, like I dunno 200-300 so people that are lacking in skill don't just buy a premium and then think they are good enough to play ratings

ornate spoke
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200-300 is a lot for a single tank, why not 50?

lyric parrot
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Cause 200-300 isn't that much

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I dunno I've racked up around 2k battles this month almost, 200-300 seems generous

ornate spoke
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Jesus you do 4 battles an hour, assuming you sleep 8 hours, non stop for 30 days

lyric parrot
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Thats not much

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I racked up around 80-90 hours in two week on csgo and unturned once, but in actuality they need to add something that at least helps ratings keep out bad players

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Id like ratings to you know, split the ranks like you know, it's more rating based rather than just being mm but I get the playerbase isn't big enough for that

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Cause ratings is the same as mm, but I'd argue worse at times

native marten
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cool

lime sparrow
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A lot of chances could be made if the playerbase was bigger

lyric parrot
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Time to attempt to convince people to try out blitz

native marten
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lmao just go on twitter or something and be like "in july of 2020 only those who are playing on the NA server of world of tanks blitz will be deemed worthy to live"

lyric parrot
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Lmao

fallen mortar
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200 battles is a ton for me i havent got a single tank with even 270 battles 😅

pine falcon
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Bruuuuh How? Are you serious you don't have a single tank over 270 battles?

fallen mortar
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nope highest is 262

pine falcon
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Meanwhile I have 2400+ battles in leo 1 (mostly due to it being my first tier 10 and trying to repair its stats)

fallen mortar
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thats like 1/4 of my total battles

pine falcon
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well that kind of explains why you don't have tanks with more than 270 battles

fallen mortar
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i hate playing tanks a lot xD

hazy bronze
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At 4999

pine falcon
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Nice, mate

neat slate
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I have 2300 in an ru 251 and 1600 in an fv215b 😆

hazy bronze
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5007

strong echo
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Jesus you do 4 battles an hour, assuming you sleep 8 hours, non stop for 30 days
@ornate spoke

I have 700 battles on rudy, t-54mod1 and cdc

Why is closed ranked battles on nights?

hazy bronze
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It because they guys most likely play more single year in game

snow vine
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Ok so basically T34 and AX are beast in rating

viscid solar
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No

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Obj252u

median wagon
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No, AX

autumn wave
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I use t49

cinder cargo
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Raitings has basically become a heavy brawl

cursive geyser
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Gg wp, I need 50 parts to get the fearless but there is no option to get 50 part, why did you put 50 parts option last season then?

Only option is to get to top 5 which means all the grind from last 2 months wasn’t worth it.

Otherwise I have to play next month too to get fearless if I don’t get in top 5.

Just wow. Wp to who decided to do this. Literally could have done 6-10 gets 50 parts.

Consider changing it or keep ruining game for me.

median wagon
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You’re not entitled

pastel timber
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is6 my boi is not worth months of effort. but it may be fun in the journey to get it rather than reward itself

low sandal
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It's the Asia server... Top 5 is ez

mossy badger
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@cursive geyser Lol it’s hard to get exactly 100 parts which forces u to play even more or wait to get those last 5 parts WG sneaky bois

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@pastel timber hahaha no the journey is awful other than making a few big brain buddies everything else is toxic

ornate spoke
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hello how to play because I don't know what's going on anymore

narrow isle
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ty WG for Players like this in my team !!!!

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess RIPPER_TSS[BG1]- Todor#3518 has been warned.

narrow isle
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Yes 10x again !!!

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nice censure

crimson goblet
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stop crying and just play better....jesus christ man

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i cant stand people like you, who instead of looking what went wrong move it from themselves onto either the team, or wargaming, get some senses into your brain please, its getting annoying. if you want to cry go to your mother.

median wagon
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I had a good ratings day today, advanced to platinum

crimson goblet
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gz

median wagon
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Man ratings is the most toxic part of wotb

crimson goblet
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dont forget the gamemodes, but when they are off i fully agree

median wagon
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People who get upset about the game modes which don’t change stats are stupid

pine falcon
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@narrow isle except he literally has 70% wr

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess RIPPER_TSS[BG1]- Todor#3518 has been warned.

median wagon
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Bruh

crimson goblet
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wonder what he wrote, i missed it :c

median wagon
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He said you had a poor wr

narrow isle
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can you explane me how to play when we playing with players with 600 battles

crimson goblet
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lol, cool stuff, 26k games 70% but "poor wr" lul

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just play better than them, how else u think i got to 70%?

narrow isle
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i see no fun to play and loose with players like this that i post

ornate spoke
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Then quit

median wagon
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Enemy players might be having the same luck as you

narrow isle
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ok i see that you still doing nothing

ornate spoke
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This isn't the #cry-about-matchmaking-channel

crimson goblet
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i actually enjoy it more when my team is bad,coz im able to influence the battle way more than if we just win straight 7:0 after 2 mins

narrow isle
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and what chanel it is ?

crimson goblet
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not for crybabys,so please leave :)

ornate spoke
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@crimson goblet be nice

crimson goblet
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unless u want to join in and become friends with stevo and can😂

im trying lul

narrow isle
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and were i cant show all players with what players your good matchmaker put me to play ???

ornate spoke
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I'm gonna need that in English please

crimson goblet
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coz its naming and shaming,which isnt allowed

he wants to show the "bad players" the mm gave him

narrow isle
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that i understand but tell me what you will do to not playing with Players that have no idea how to play normal battles .

ornate spoke
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Complain about it on another server

narrow isle
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hah may be other game server

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u admins are so useful, helping paleyrs a lot

crimson goblet
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we arent admins, spartacus is just a mod and i am a youtuber

narrow isle
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whatever

ornate spoke
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Just a mod... How hurtful 😢

narrow isle
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want to see you in rating battle

crimson goblet
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compared to admin i meant,you possess great power spartacus❤️

ornate spoke
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Ah shucks

crimson goblet
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i dont need to proove my point, my stats show that for themselves :p

narrow isle
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and what is your real ingame name yourtuber ?

crimson goblet
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3very_Good_Name_Is_Taken, have fun being envious whilst seeing my stats ;)

native marten
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“real” lmao did I miss a fake one

crimson goblet
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probably xD

narrow isle
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3800 rating nice

crimson goblet
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thats this season,what u want, i got to 6.2k in february ._.

ornate spoke
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@narrow isle are you attempting to stat shame?

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Because I know how that will end

crimson goblet
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not good for him for sure

narrow isle
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didnt understand question, sorry my English its not good!

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i want to tell that i am not happy WG to put in rating battles teams players that have 600 battles and have no idea are they playing gta ot wotb ... thats it! I am over!!!! 10x again !!!!

lime sparrow
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It's matchmaking. That happens to everybody. You aren't special just because you had a few dunces on your team.
Don't be a Stevo

hazy bronze
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Trust every get bad teams once rating yesterday I got 6 lost in rows.

pine falcon
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I like how 3very is standing above all of us like a god with his 70% wr and feeding us his knowledge and giving us his thoughts

vivid shore
pallid arch
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Dont play tier 7

hazy bronze
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Rating battle queue take time

muted shuttle
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@vivid shore Why do you yolo so much

vivid shore
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🤷

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unluck xD

bleak crest
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Yeah, it’s not possible to play some tier 7 tanks because of the waiting time.

blissful portal
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Is it possible to try for 1 season to not allow premium tanks?

hazy bronze
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I would say this then battles would become even more 1 side then they are now

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At tier 8 at least

blissful portal
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Ive just played with a 17 battles player with T34 doing 0 dmg

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Thats why i would like to have a season with no premiums or at least try

median wagon
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What a noob

hazy bronze
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That bad rng or your playing in right position

blissful portal
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Impossible to play ratings on sunday

hazy bronze
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Most got in losing streak so far 6 in row

spice cloud
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Ratings battle is a waste of your time 😉

pallid arch
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I call getting a fancy tier 8 out of it not a waste of time

calm quail
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Definitely a waste of your time
Work at mcD's for 3 hours and buy an is6

undone vortex
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U can buy an is6 but can't buy an is6 fearless thou

lime sparrow
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^

white spruce
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How long is this season?

hazy bronze
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A month

white spruce
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Just a month? Crap

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How long was last season

pallid arch
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2 months

white spruce
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Any idea how long next season will be lmao

pallid arch
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1 month

inner jackal
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imagine 45wr ppl playing ratings and thinking they can carry,jeez

muted shuttle
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@inner jackal MM's fault 😉

inner jackal
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ah yes,MM sarcasm

desert kite
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@ornate spoke This is an international server. Using english is mandatory here.

muted shuttle
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@ornate spoke Где?

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@ornate spoke Ага, ты должен немного подождать. Я думаю

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@ornate spoke PM пожалуйста

sonic sedge
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Well, won 7 ratings battles in a row then on the 8th on the vines map I had silent players, typed ‘no town’ as the enemy had better heavies...guess where most of my err ‘team of randoms’ went?! 🙄🤣 Time to stop for a while after that. lol
The salty profanities are still being flung around too, think maybe any swearing/abuse from players & they should be banned from ratings for a week!
Perhaps then that would stop.

pallid arch
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But how else would I let the atgmers know how I feel?

muted shuttle
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@sonic sedge Feel free to report them

sonic sedge
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I do, quite regularly.

pine falcon
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Quick question. Like you guys know that there is an awaiting players counter, aka the white counter, not the green one. Yeah. Well I just had that counter get stuck on 0 so I had to reload the game but by that time we pretty much had dominated. Anyone else experienced something like that?

desert kite
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I sometimes do. As soon as I see the counter staying at 0 for several sec I restart the game and hopefully don’t come too late in battle

vivid shore
wheat forum
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F for u mate

desert kite
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That little manoeuver is gonna cost us 51 years @vivid shore

vivid shore
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hah

sonic sedge
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Just wondering when the JgTig 8.8 spam in battles is going to stop 😂😂 Why players think this is gonna be a good tank to play (camp/snipe) in ratings I don’t know 😆

desert kite
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And? Some players use the 183 in T10 ratings. They are just dumb, that’s it. Expecting smart choices from most players is too much. Some just understand that a tank is bad, even worse for ratings.

fallen mortar
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ive seen arianagrande someone from LOCA dominating with 183 in ratings

desert kite
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Good players can do well in any tank, but it isn’t a vehicle most people would use in ratings imo.

crimson goblet
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exactly,its never about the tank,but the player in it, i mean i played the sp1c last season the for the camo and won most of my games in it, coz i actually now how to use my tank effectively

desert kite
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^ Good job in ratings btw 3very. If you see some experienced players using tanks you rarely see in ratings, it’s most likely to get the camos on those and/or just for the more challenging drive.

vocal gorge
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Tanks like Centurion I or 59-Patton ? xD

lean zenith
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I think we need more downvotes, or a better tier progression system that only allows you to buy premiums that are at or below your current tier. Also adjust the tiers to make it so you could only progress to the next tier after showing some proof of skill in that tier, like a winrate/wn8 minimum.

desert kite
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@lean zenith Being only allowed to buy a premium tank of the tier where you already have a tech tree tank would indeed be better for the game. But don’t expect WG to do it anytime soon. It would significantly decrease their incomes.

vocal gorge
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For WG, money > playerbase hapiness

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(Just my opinion)

desert kite
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Probably not just an opinion

vocal gorge
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A fact ? Maybe ...

lean zenith
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Or just put a battle minimum on ratings, either account wide, or for each tier, like you must play 100 games at t10 before being able to play a t10 in ratings.

vocal gorge
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rating points should be given according to the damages you dealt during the battle, not for a victory or a defeat

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(sorry for my broken english lmao)

lean zenith
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Or they should base it off your wn8 performance vs your overall wn8 or wn8 of players at the same tier/tank. WN8 relies more on damage, kills, and spots, and less on wins, so I think it would be a better measure.

vocal gorge
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it's a great idea

desert kite
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Ratings based on WN8 would indeed be a better fit since for now it’s all about how many battles you spam.

desert kite
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Good afternoon

median wagon
ornate spoke
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@median wagon always like that, RNG needed

bleak crest
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I shot a Skorpion just between the turret and hull, full gray but nothing happened. No feedback, nothing. And he was stationary before and after the shot.

lime sparrow
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Maybe shot the barrel

desert kite
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Either the track or the barrel.

sonic sedge
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Here we go..4 lightly armoured tanks on my side! 👌🤦‍♂️ You just know when the system doesn’t want you to win!

lime sparrow
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Oh Stevo, never change

median wagon
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This points system is BS man

pallid arch
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@desert kite woah there, you insulting my use of the 183?

worldly anvil
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183 best ratings tank
salt machine

native marten
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stop trying to ruin people’s days

pallid arch
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The missile tanks ruin my day, they don't seem to care, therefore I will not care.

median wagon
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Always a coincidence when the broken AX appears on the enemy team

pallid arch
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@median wagon HE pen the turret

median wagon
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Well it’s possible but there’s no point wasting your time trying, I just don’t see the point

pallid arch
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If you miss you do splash damage. After they get HE penned, they tend to back off

median wagon
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AX has a BS gun and armour

pallid arch
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I completely agree that they are bs, but I also see you in a 252

median wagon
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And I don’t like to play tier X in ratings because rocket spam

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Apart from the fact that 252u is actually balanced, large weak lower plate, trash gun and cupolas

lean zenith
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I spam type 59 and waffle. Occasionally I go 268 if I'm feeling overwhelmingly positive

median wagon
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Even WZ 112 2 is better than 252u

pallid arch
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Sure :)
I spam is3d, prog46, and 252u

lean zenith
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252u just withers and dies the moment it becomes isolated

median wagon
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Wz 112 2 is 100% better

lean zenith
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what's that
All these wz tanks are confusing to remember

median wagon
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Tier 8 Chinese premium heavy, not the glacial

pallid arch
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I'm still liking my is3d. It somehow still works really well even after all the new premiums

lean zenith
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Oh the one that has the Celestial camo?

median wagon
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Yeah, i think it’s OP because reverse speed of 20km/h

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Having this reverse speed on a heavy tank is insane

pallid arch
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I love the dumb 120mm squares on the front of the armor. It even screws up experienced players

median wagon
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Squares?

pallid arch
median wagon
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Oh this, the extra tracks

pallid arch
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But there aren't even tracks there

median wagon
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Wz 112 2 is basically IS-4 but tier 8

sonic sedge
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I don’t like the IS3 def. anymore & rarely play it & I’ve had it since it was 1st play to win a tank, it definitely needs a buff now.

pallid arch
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Lol, most of the time you reload faster than heavies with lower alpha, and you have really troll armor

median wagon
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@pallid arch those are track strips on the front, I’m certain

pallid arch
median wagon
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Defender has invisible tracks there

pallid arch
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The is3 (which has tracks there) does not benefit from extra armor

median wagon
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On is3 it is just a cosmetic, but on defender it’s part of the armour

pallid arch
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Yup, and it's really trollish

neat slate
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That explains a lot

median wagon
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Also on 252u’s side there is a 600mm effectiveness plate, even looking at it head on

pallid arch
median wagon
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It’s trying to be a V shape hull

pallid arch
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But it has an extra plate there for some random reason

I really hate it when I shoot (and hit)here but it fails to pen

median wagon
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Tracks are annoyingly thick too

pallid arch
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My ap shells should easily go through 120mm worth of armor, but no

median wagon
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Bruh have you bounced off the 252u’s rear

pallid arch
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Rarely, the rear is a far more consistent pen than the sides. The sides I bounce way more than should be possible.

This is another completely bs piece if armor
This is my only problem with this tank. If it did not have this I would be perfectly fine fighting death wedges

pine falcon
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Why play tier 8 when you can drive a sheridan.

median wagon
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Progetto 46’s turret though, it’s a bit troll

pallid arch
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Meh, prog armor is fine, it's the gun that is broken
Also check out the o47's armor profile without spaced armor

median wagon
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Looks normal

pallid arch
vestal pebble
native marten
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yikes

native marten
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with a name like that what did you really expect

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess ᖴEᗩᖇᒪESS#2079 has been warned.

hot spindle
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play tier 8

hazy bronze
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Ratings at tier 10 comes to luck on your line up vs the enemy and map

hot spindle
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is the reason people grind credits in rating because it doesn't affect win rate. Is there something im missing?

pine falcon
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Yes, you are correct. You aren't missing anything

ornate spoke
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Isn't there a boost of credits as well? Or xp only

pine falcon
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there is a boost in credits

lean zenith
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Yeah there is a boost to creds and xp based on the tier you play at, so slap on boosters and prem time on your mk6 and make 100k creds a win

hazy bronze
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His queue in rating base on at least in 5k

median wagon
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Hit 4.1k today, I hope tomorrow I won’t fall

hazy bronze
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How

median wagon
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I only had a calibration of 3.6k this season

hazy bronze
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Playing is 4 but was in queue for least 7 mins rating is 5077

median wagon
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Bruh you’re at 5k already?

hazy bronze
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Yeah been theirs since yesterday

median wagon
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The amount of time people have

hazy bronze
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Did under 100 games

median wagon
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What did you calibrate at

hazy bronze
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4300

median wagon
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Bruh

hazy bronze
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Why is that shocking

median wagon
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I never get such good luck

hazy bronze
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Won 9 out of 10 but average at least 3,5 more or less

median wagon
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I probably lost most of my games

hazy bronze
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Calibration is nothing but luck really

median wagon
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A lot of noobs, I’d have to gamble my luck and hope the enemy has more noobs

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I never understood why noobs try to get the IS-6 fearless, noobs don’t realise they’re noobs I guess..

hazy bronze
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Trust I worst I seen when get match on supremacy one your teammates happen to t28

median wagon
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Haha, or one of your teammates go FCM

pallid arch
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Yo... I got to 5k only using fcm last season

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I will take a fcm over a Spersh any day

hazy bronze
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True that fcm is better because on ratings armor does not not exist

pallid arch
haughty schooner
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@haughty schooner thanks for the winstreak
@pallid arch Did i play against you in these or something?

pallid arch
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This was instantly after out games

lime sparrow
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our*?

hazy bronze
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Nice

wild quiver
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Remeber when this was diamond camo and i grinded for it and now every noob can get it doing 4000 in ranked🤦‍♂️

worldly anvil
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remember when the tiger looking one

calm quail
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It was stated pretty clearly that the camos would be rotated

lime sparrow
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wah wah wah

blissful portal
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Does FV4005 have that style?

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That attachment

neat wind
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yes

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It was stated pretty clearly that the camos would be rotated
@calm quail just because it's stated doesn't mean it's lame

calm quail
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@neat wind A bigger issue with the camos is that the diamond one is like, really ugly right now

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You still got the camo before everyone else, at least. Similar to how WG will sell the is6 fearless in a year. :-]

blissful portal
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Is it E100 a rating tank?

hazy bronze
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Nope

neat wind
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thats on the tech tree GWchadThink

hazy bronze
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Is 4

undone vortex
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Apparently u can't accept the fact that they are good so they win more truth hurts

lone thistle
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I’m big sed I’ve been doing 2.8k average damage for 21 games and yet I’ve won only 6. About 8 7-0 defeats in total lmao

torpid flint
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stop playing for 30+ minutes and get back when you get a god streak?

hazy bronze
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Yeah a lot of 7-0 in rating will happen in rating

karmic ridge
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Bruh that oxygen style of writing...

Its similar to --RNG's nickname style
Reeeeeeeee

median wagon
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I’ll be expecting lots of Caernarvon action X today

rancid pecan
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All 5k points players will receive IS-6 fearless parts?

hazy bronze
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Noo it just depend your position in ratings

sonic sedge
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Yeah lots of Caernarvon X around today, easily despatched, not a lot better than the tech-tree caernarvon, which isn’t too bad anyway, but for 15k gold when the OBJ252u was cheaper...the obj is far better.

lean zenith
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AX just has 10 degrees of gd and good turret as well as i think a better caern gun, not that much better if you can't find ridges

ornate spoke
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Can you play ratings if your e100 has 100 percent crew but the stock gun?

worldly anvil
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probably not

pine falcon
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@ornate spoke two things:
1st) You want to play the E100 with the stock gun because you like it more. If that is the case then I don't know what you are doing
OR
2nd) You want to grind xp for the gun in ratings Which you should not do

worldly anvil
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@pine falcon wrong ping

pine falcon
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apologies

ornate spoke
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Yes I want to grind it in ratings

pine falcon
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If you want to grind, don't do it in ratings. Please

ornate spoke
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I prefer to not use some of my gold to free xp it. It’s my tank I can do what I want with it. Im also not that bad that I can’t perform with the stock gun.

pine falcon
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then I hope you wouldn't be able to play the stock E100 in rating

ornate spoke
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Well I hope I can

worldly anvil
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im pretty sure u can play stock bc (with 100% crew) in ratings
for some reason
at least last season u could

ornate spoke
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@pine falcon I hope u understand I’m not gonna play e100 stock in pubs and ruin my 30 day when I could easily grind it in ratings without using my gold

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And I am not waiting to build up 65k free xp

worldly anvil
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you could just wait for an event @ornate spoke

pine falcon
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Grind it when the next gamemode comes. For exmaple I have a Jageroo and a T57 waiting for their crew to get to 100%

ornate spoke
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I need to use it for tournaments

pine falcon
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As you saw Maus and IS4 are way more viable in tournaments currently

ornate spoke
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Maybe for your region. Every region has a different kind of meta

pine falcon
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We saw it all in the streams for spring season....

ornate spoke
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In NA, lots of teams like to use e100....

sick leaf
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I play my is8 in ratings to grind xp for it

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Let’s just say it doesn’t preform very well

marsh valley
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yeah is8 isnt a great tank

pine falcon
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and then you wonder why the NA rating player base is complaining. Yeah... wow....

worldly anvil
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e50m is great for ratings rn
any farming med with lots of carrying capability is nice in ratings

lean zenith
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too bad mine is still at 93% crew

sick leaf
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The way I see ratings is a way to grind xp on tanks that I don’t like and a way to play when I ain’t focused enough to play normal matches so my wr doesn’t suffer, and get a camo meanwhile.

half crow
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Wow, lots of 252 buff requests out today

lean zenith
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ratings is just a way to grind xp for your next t10

ornate spoke
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Yeah a lot of 7-0 in rating will happen in rating
@hazy bronze man, the level is so low. I did 3.6k dmg on two battles. Got killed in the middle of the battle. Even winning, i ended on top dmg both my team and enemy team.

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Maybe for your region. Every region has a different kind of meta
@ornate spoke meta of NA was always noobs.

median wagon
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Every server meta is trash

median wagon
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Bruh

worldly anvil
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5.4k wont win you 1st this season

blissful portal
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6 jokes of a team to start a horrible rating day

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@ornate spoke lmao you are right

hazy bronze
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@ornate spoke can’t win today

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Rating nothing but luck unless you play missle tank

blissful portal
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@hazy bronze We are 2 then

hazy bronze
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@blissful portal that we are.

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Playing missle tank give 10 percent higher chance to win because those tank too powerful for light tank.

blissful portal
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Agreed

ornate spoke
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Rating nothing but luck unless you play missle tank
@hazy bronze action X spamming at tier VII, VIII and IX. Sadly.

hazy bronze
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@ornate spoke sadly I don’t have action x or missle tank

ornate spoke
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@ornate spoke sadly I don’t have action x or missle tank
@hazy bronze me either.

hazy bronze
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@ornate spoke I hear violet the anime is very good what is you rating on it

ornate spoke
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@ornate spoke I hear violet the anime is very good what is you rating on it
@hazy bronze the anime is awesome. I loved it. My rating is 3,465 at the moment. Went unlucky on calibrating battles.

hazy bronze
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@ornate spoke calibration come down to luck or less since most people will get around 3600 or less

ornate spoke
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My First two battles i got a First class. Then, only lose. I should've stopped at the first loss.

blissful portal
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Dont even bother to play ratings today... 13 battles only 2 wins

ornate spoke
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I was thinking to play it. Thanks for the advice.> Dont even bother to play ratings today... 13 battles only 2 wins
@blissful portal

blissful portal
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well to that result add other 5 lost battles

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This is just amazing... i was at 4.6k and bot teams got me down 300 points

heavy pendant
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Your rating battles can suck it

pallid arch
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Lol

heavy pendant
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8 straight loses with a consistent at least 3.5k damage and all I’m doing is losing. Fix your matchmaking

blissful portal
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Lol

pallid arch
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@heavy pendant I dont see you whining about mm being unfair when you win 8 in a row

heavy pendant
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That’s because I don’t win 8 in a row. All I do is lose in rating

pallid arch
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0% win rate? Show me

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If you have anywhere near 50% and you carry your weight you will climb in ratings.

heavy pendant
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If you didn’t know a one man show doesn’t work out very well in this game. I can pull a mastery and I’ll still lose

pallid arch
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Wow, so can I. You are neglecting all the times you get carried

heavy pendant
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I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall

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You just keep swerving the conversation

pallid arch
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Yup, I am pointing out the parts that you are completely ignoring

heavy pendant
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How exactly do you get carried when you pull your own weight?

pallid arch
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mAtCh MaKiNg iS UnFaIr

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So you are telling me that you are the perfect player that has never done 0 damage?

heavy pendant
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When did I say that! I just told you I’ve done at least 3.5k damage for at least 8 battles and no one else on the team couldn’t pull their weight those 8 battles! I’m talking about the last eight battles stop changing the conversation.

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Hence again why I say I’m talking to a brick wall. You can’t see that things need to be fixed, you just say ** do better**, youve never been carried. Just all irrelevant info

pallid arch
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Lol

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8 battle loss streak
Come back here and whine about your 8 battle win streaks

heavy pendant
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I shouldn’t have to do 6k damage every single game for my rating to go up

pallid arch
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Is your winrate in ratings 0%?

heavy pendant
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The entire reason I’m here is because I don’t get big win streaks. Matchmaking throws people under the bus constantly

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Oh my lord.

pallid arch
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Alright, I'll start whining about every loss streak I get

heavy pendant
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Good luck to you. One day you’ll learn. 5 years and still the same stuff

ornate spoke
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Matchmaking complaints... Same thing different day.

cosmic cypress
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^^^^^^^^^

native marten
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Cute is debatable but each to their own lmao

pallid arch
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Successful day of ratings. You can lose points really quickly when you try

ornate spoke
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Oh yea ur the dude who yolos in his 140

pallid arch
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And sherry

ornate spoke
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o_O but y

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Y deliberately ruin ppls rating games

pallid arch
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Not my problem

ornate spoke
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Sad

silver kite
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ratings battles needs to be changed. it’s called a PERSONAL rating, so why does it go up or down for a win or loss? winning and losing shouldn’t affect your rating because it’s not your fault if your team is awful is it? it’s not fair that you can have a decent game and still lose loads just because your team sucked.

desert kite
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^ kinda stupid/ironical to have your « personal » rating to depend on 6 other players each game

silver kite
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exactly my point. it’s. it fair and makes no sense

lone thistle
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I’m not one for complaining about matchmaking, but omg I’ve never experienced such bad teams in ratings. My 30 day stats at tier 10 in normal games are about ~3000 average damage and 70% winrate (This is just for reference). Combined between today and yesterday I’ve done 45 rating battles, with an abysmal 35.6% winrate. Literally half my winrate of normal games. I’m top of the team in damage maybe 30+ of these games. If I don’t pull off a major carry, I simply don’t win. Now for the season overall I’m at only 46% winrate. Was at 57% not too long ago. I’d say 65% of games I have 2 team mates dead within a minute or 70 seconds. Sorry for the rant, but this is ridiculous now. Like I said I’m not one for complaining about matchmaking, in fact very much the opposite. But today and yesterday honestly I just don’t know.
Edit: Forgot to say I would estimate that 30% of my losses are 7-0. I don’t think I won 7-0 once in those 45

sonic sedge
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☝️ Where are the mods, you see it’s not just me who wants the ratings system changed for the better & fair for all! I’ve been mentioning this before this discord app. was a thing too! #Not my personal rating!

desert kite
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Either make the rating depend mostly on the player's performance, or replace "personal rating" by "my bot team's rating"

quick tiger
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Last battle it took me almost 15mins to enter into rating battle 😦

restive dawn
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this is the most personal rating system that this game has ever had

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the old system was pretty cool when you lost 24 points if you lost

sonic sedge
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This is my point exactly, ‘my rating’ still goes down because of the rest of the random players!

restive dawn
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no matter what you did afterall this is a teamgame for a win

fallen mortar
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Stevo the difference is that he's an actual good player 😂 and you proved yourself to be not that good several times with bad decisions or going for the wrong flank and stuff

glossy raptor
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Stevo if u hate the system then stop playing rating, play regular instead

fleet sinew
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Of course it is a teamgame. But in my 200 battles in ranked I had teammembers with 400 or 500 Avg in my team and the red team had 4 players with over 1.500 Avg. With this stupid MM I cannot win. So what is happend?

sonic sedge
restive dawn
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you not winning the games doesnt mean the system is bad something else might be

fleet sinew
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But something is still wrong in ratings if I only get teams like this.

bleak crest
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It’s a total joke, they say the points depend on your performance. So please WG explain how is it that being afk and doing 0 damage in a win results in 4 points gained while being afk and losing results in -40 points. In both cases nothing was done in terms of performance and there is a 54 point difference. So again, it’s clearly the team that matters just like in random. The rest is just empty talk.

karmic ridge
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3049 is the enemy team's rating. But the guy with the lowest rating has 3300 points, no calibrations too
This game is freaking rigged

sonic sedge
karmic ridge
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Oh yeah, more points ofc. Almost the same rating. One dude did 900 dmg and died, i did 4k dmg and died. He lost 19 points, i lost 37 points. This game is stoopid

ornate spoke
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Folks this needs to stay civil

karmic ridge
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Idk, im going mad when i think about WG's rating calculations

pine falcon
ornate spoke
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that isn't even a ratings battle. @karmic ridge

karmic ridge
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Btw, low damage = those troll bounces i got after shooting those tanks

@ornate spoke nono, but some dude was complaining about the mm

ornate spoke
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That's all he ever complains about

karmic ridge
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Bruh u just deleted a screenshot that was perfectly edited -_-

ornate spoke
karmic ridge
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Ahhh, wait a minute ill get the ratings one too

ornate spoke
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You really don't need to. I don't want or need to see every match where some player feels slighted by WG.

karmic ridge
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:/

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The ratings were not so different, tons of obj 252us, action Xs, some tanks like the progetto 46, skorp.. the game is literally polluted now. On top of that the points calculation is totally stoopid that i get more negative than the rest of the team for doing a decent performance

pine falcon
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It seems like you have never player a truly broken gamemode ranked on PC. The only tanks you see are EBRs, 279s, the op Fv-Chieftan tank, 430u, 907 and 268v4.

bleak crest
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The point is ratings is broken as it is and they reset it so I get games with noobs again. Why can’t we have a game mode without noobs? Why must there always be someone like that who loses us the battle?

pine falcon
karmic ridge
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@pine falcon grand battles? Soon™

pine falcon
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When replying to cancracker I will always use the screenshot.
Grand battles were the 30 vs 30 right? I have turned them off as they are just too boring as at least one third of the team camps

karmic ridge
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Please wg, we don't need those 200 avg dmg clowns who gets calibrated at 600 points, raise it to a max of 1100. Everyone knows that they wont get the is-6 fearless so y don't they freaking get out of those levels?

slim glade
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How much rating points does a tank need to earn in a tier to unlock rating ace camo? Or how many wins if it's based on win count?

crimson goblet
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its not about gained points,also i dont get why u ask this here, its displayed ingame and explains it fully how u get the rating camos

slim glade
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What's wrong asking in here when the channel topic is about ratings? And the reason behind asking this precisely is I have a lt as tier ace on tier 7 for last season which didn't got the camo when my tier 8, 9 and 10 did receive it.

crimson goblet
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u need to play 50 games in a tier, how many points u gain or games u win doesnt matter

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but u need to be above 4k/5k

slim glade
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50 ratings played on a tier for the season or in total in ratings?

crimson goblet
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for the season

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you can play 50 games in any tier (total 200 if you do all 4) which maxes out your camos, meaning you get 1 camo per tier,if you reach 4k +

slim glade
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If I play 200 rating games in total and score +4k in rating, but not really have 50 games played in each tier specifically but do have 4 tanks in all the 4 tiers, would it still unlock the rating camo on all 4 of the tanks? Or the 50 games on each tier is a must?

crimson goblet
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50 games in a tier is a must

slim glade
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Alright, thank you.

crimson goblet
ember gulch
cosmic cypress
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Allmighty stevo. The screenshots you posted show you lost a combined 7 points in 2 games with an average damage of like 2500. The ratings point system seems to be working just fine as you did lose both games. You’re making it seem like you’re doing crazy amounts of damage, still losing, and losing crazy amounts of points. 2500 damage is not that much, and you barely lost any points

muted shuttle
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@karmic ridge People play ratings because it gives more XP and does not effect their stats. They don't care whether they lose, win or whether you're on their team. People with lower WR and worse stats play the game because they're bored or just because it is fun so don't expect everyone to have 70WR. Also just because you lose multiple games in a row, doesn't mean the MM is not working. MM is working as intended, you can't create a team a 14SUs when there are 2 in the queue. After all your skill will get you where you belong, or do you think that people with above 6k rating are "rigging" the game?

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Everyone comes here just to vent out and cry about their teams, but I don't think I have seen anyone crying about the enemy team when they had multiple wins streak

ornate spoke
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Well, ratings are supposed to see how good u are, at least, when it came out. If WG did some minimum requirements for ratings, would be nice, at least for keeping the high level of the battles.

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I remember well, WG said that ratings are supposed to be high level battles.

karmic ridge
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@muted shuttle well, thats totally correct, i agree with you but i don't understand the reason y i lose so many points for doing some decent matches.. its like, whatever i do,im supposed to lose more than the others

lavish walrus
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This was the immediate next battle! 🙄
@sonic sedge Dont try and tell WG that the matchmaking is bad. They won't admit it. Every REAL person is saying that MM is soooo bad...

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Well, ratings are supposed to see how good u are, at least, when it came out. If WG did some minimum requirements for ratings, would be nice, at least for keeping the high level of the battles.
@ornate spokeand THAT is the correct solution to our problems....

muted shuttle
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@karmic ridge Because your "decent" is not considered decent by the system. I'll tell you something, do you know who ended up being first in the previous season with little over 7k points? Trapmelon from my clan... He realized that when you want to progress fast you need much DMG that's why he used to immediately start to flank at the start of the battle and just farm, by doing this he always ended up having the most damages and not losing much. That's all, you just have to do more than now if you don't want to lose that many points. But if you think that you shouldn't be losing and that you are so good that you should win every game, then just play a bit later, you can't be losing forever after all )

karmic ridge
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Well yea, but plot twist, i did 4k dmg, Got -37, a dude did 900 dmg, -19. Almost the same rating

muted shuttle
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XP counts in this case not damage

karmic ridge
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Moreover u know that im a super bot 😂, but i did change so much after learning the ways of wot pc, i still don't understand the reason y i get the most negative even when im in the middle of the team leaderboard xd

Ahhhh i don't think i earn so much of xp Even after farming and getting kills

muted shuttle
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Look, I understand your frustration but when someone's good enough, they will progress on over the time no matter if they lost some games before or not. Some people here struggle to get into diamond league and cry when they lose. I think the cause of that is often between the chair and a screen

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No offense to anyone

lavish walrus
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No offense to anyone
@muted shuttle None taken. But i think that you miss the point of what we've been saying. Between OUR chair and OUR screen aka Dmg and XP is fine. Why the rest of the (randomly?) selected team is doing nothing at the battle? And that is we are saying. The frustration is that while we are doing our best, the rest are doing absolutely nothing. And End, no offense.

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus But look, why do you expect them to do something? When I was a noob back then, I didn't care whether I won or not, it was so much fun and I was having a great time without realizing I'm a muppet. You must keep that in mind and don't rely on your teammates, they are playing it because they are having fun, that's all.

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A lot of new players don't even know what WR is, or when to use some other type of ammunition, they are just having a great time while you take it very seriously.

karmic ridge
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The game was fun back then. But what the hell is this now? 1 tech tree tank with 13 premiums where the other team mates are considered as free food for the enemy fishes. But the new comers who doesn't even know what wr is can use their mom's credit card for those high tier premium tonks.

dusty kelp
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MM is often way off...if only happy go lucky players were evenly split on both teams...i find often they r not..imo

ornate spoke
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Because there is more to playing as a part of a team then damage and xp. Ratings are about doing your best, working with your team, and generating a win. These players that you guys are constantly complaining about are something that every single player has to deal with. It's how you deal with the cards that you've been dealt that set you apart from the rest. Players who climb the ratings do so because they are skilled enough to cover the deficiencies that their team mates bring while at the same time they are aware enough to use their teammates to their strengths.

dusty kelp
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Meh

muted shuttle
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@ornate spoke No the MM is rigged

ornate spoke
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So tired of the "it's all my teams fault" mentality.

karmic ridge
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^

:D

ornate spoke
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@muted shuttle "rigged" against players who can't adapt.

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus But look, why do you expect them to do something? When I was a noob back then, I didn't care whether I won or not, it was so much fun and I was having a great time without realizing I'm a muppet. You must keep that in mind and don't rely on your teammates, they are playing it because they are having fun, that's all.
@muted shuttle My dear End, i understand what you are saying, but i don't buy that answer, because its NOT a normal battle for FUN, but Rating Battles with Prizes. Fun yes for me because i am always in Top 3, but you've (not you personally) got to DO Something to FIX the Matchmaking process. It is not good enough, and we are disappointed from the poor teams... I hope that WR understands this.

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So tired of the "it's all my teams fault" mentality.
@ornate spoke Then you must be the best player in the universe, having fun in rating battles ALL ALONE.

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus You want to magically turn every 40WR into a 60WR player and assign them to your team only or?

ornate spoke
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Never said I was but I'm a flexible player who can adapt to a changing situation.
@lavish walrus it sounds to me like you need to find a nice single player game.

dusty kelp
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No just split the HGL players more evenly

muted shuttle
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I am playing the very same game, I'm playing with the same players yet I am able to understand that MM has nothing to do with how I play

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WR is irrelevant yet some people want WR based MM, same as WN7 or WN8

cosmic cypress
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It amazes me how we can all be playing the same game with the same players and some people can use their teammates and some complain about them

karmic ridge
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i got more points than the others in the current season cuz i helped my team mates to not get foched. thank you WG

ornate spoke
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It's so much easier to blame the team then it is to go back, watch your replays, and find areas where you could have done better.

karmic ridge
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yea i should have used HESH, but i thought y cuz the jags cheeks can be penned by AP easily, yea sure, 3 AP didnt do anything

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus You want to magically turn every 40WR into a 60WR player and assign them to your team only or?
@muted shuttle Did i say that? I just hope that WR makes a more decent MM that is currently using. Stop the players that don't know how to play and let the more experienced ones to play rating. Even if they are less than 150 people.

ornate spoke
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@karmic ridge dude you did 2k in a tank that is solely there to put down damage... What are you expecting?

pine falcon
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@lavish walrus and then when 60%ers play with each other they will become 50%ers and when 50%ers play with each other they become 45%ers

karmic ridge
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@ornate spoke i was busy saving my team mates cuz they were all in bad positions cuz i thought that would give me some points cuz i was being a team player.. but, no the shells bounce even when it could pen

ornate spoke
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You didn't kill a tank. How were you saving anyone?

lavish walrus
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It's so much easier to blame the team then it is to go back, watch your replays, and find areas where you could have done better.
@ornate spoke And still you don't get it. What can i do alone, if the whole team is destroyed in seconds? i can still get 3 but win is a no no

karmic ridge
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i HE;ed a badger for 1.45k straight so that the fv215b could survive from that situation

ornate spoke
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@lavish walrus no team is destroyed in seconds. Hell most teams don't even leave spawn in seconds.

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus no team is destroyed in seconds. Hell most teams don't even leave spawn in seconds.
@ornate spoke Do you want to make a bet?

karmic ridge
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@ornate spoke whats the rule of ratings, higher the points, the more you lose in a defeat or the less u lose in a defeat?

ornate spoke
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There is some algorithm but I don't know the details.

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@lavish walrus I have over 30 thousand games. Sorry but you don't get to make false claims that can't be backed up. Teams don't get destroyed in seconds anyway near often enough to be a valid concern.

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus no team is destroyed in seconds. Hell most teams don't even leave spawn in seconds.
@ornate spoke And all i have to do, is play a random rating battle and send you the video, to prove my point.

ornate spoke
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One whole video!

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Wow.

karmic ridge
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when i finally got good team mates but they did the biggest brainded play in the history of tier 10 matches, as usual i played, this time so many shots not doing anything. but 100% accuracy. whats the use? i still get almost the most amount of points for defending a side and absorbing tons of shots

ornate spoke
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Dude

lavish walrus
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when i finally got good team mates but they did the biggest brainded play in the history of tier 10 matches, as usual i played, this time so many shots not doing anything. but 100% accuracy. whats the use? i still get almost the most amount of points for defending a side and absorbing tons of shots
@karmic ridge correct

karmic ridge
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and yes i mean it. that match was so brainded that i got blackouts looking at my team mates

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most points, hell yeah\

ornate spoke
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This is a lost cause.

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You're posting tier X games that I'd be ashamed to have in tier VII wondering why you aren't getting points. I don't even know what to say at this point.

karmic ridge
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the situation was so good, ngl.. i didnt want to post such a bad game, but after bouncing all the shots that i fired, this is what i got

lavish walrus
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Wow.
@ornate spoke i wish that you were less ironic. We are trying to make you understand that rating battles are not fun anymore and playing as hard we can don't make results. You could have 150.000 battles and still you are coming off as ironic and high as you are.

ornate spoke
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Then don't play them

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If you aren't having fun why bother?

cosmic cypress
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You’re bouncing all your shots then what are you complaining about @karmic ridge

karmic ridge
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i was just saying about the results, but i posted it to clarify if u get higher rating, will u lose more or lose less@cosmic cypress

cosmic cypress
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Yes, lower ratings move more

lavish walrus
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If you aren't having fun why bother?
@ornate spoke And that's why i don't see the point of playing that game more seriously....

ornate spoke
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@lavish walrus and the term your looking for is "sarcastic". I'm being sarcastic. Ironic would be posting a tier X game where you did 1400 dmg and then blamed the team for the loss...

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus and the term your looking for is "sarcastic". I'm being sarcastic. Ironic would be posting a tier X game where you did 1400 dmg and then blamed the team for the loss...
@ornate spoke I am Greek. I think i know what Sarcastic and Ironic means...

karmic ridge
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well no, i didnt want to talk about the teams, sry for going offtopic, it was to clarify the calculations.

ornate spoke
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Obviously...

graceful ermine
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could be photoshopped

ornate spoke
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Nope it isn’t

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Trust me it is real. He sended the replay too

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I had to reset the pic cuz i didn’t delete the name with dark

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Top damage. Most likely he had a good amount of assisted damage in the mix as well.

crimson goblet
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during calibration all games and points are x3 the last game usually has this high points if u win/lose as the 10th games points gotten/lost are shown

fallen mortar
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The last one I felt like was always a normal one since I always got like 30 or 40 points there despite doing quite well

crimson goblet
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depends on how high you already are,as the higher u go the less points u get in general

lean zenith
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Yeah i somehow got a +66 for doing 1.5k damage and 2 kills in the type 59 for my 10th calibration game. It's weird

undone vortex
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Smh so many people complaining about MM everyday

lean zenith
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Maybe have a "WG Pls" megathread where we post our most voted complaints

neat slate
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Pretty sure the EU forums has a massive matchmaking thread. It is truly a sight

ornate spoke
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Na has one as well

neat slate
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I have never actually checked the mm thread, but it has thousands of replies if I remember right. I can already imagine what the majority of the replies are sort of like

undone vortex
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Asia dosent have one right hopefully

cosmic cypress
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Oh a forum where we post our favorite brain dead complaints
Hehehehehe

silver kite
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tbh you can’t get a bad team, and do low damage and then say “well you can’t say anything you only did x amount of damage” what do you expect? him to pull off a 1v5?

cosmic cypress
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Everyone is going to have a bad game, but this is a game of averages for good reason. You are not going to have a horrid team where you can’t do anything every round. Its the players that make the most of every situation they’re placed in that do the best and while sometimes you just can’t do anything, most of the time you can do something to win the game

lime sparrow
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Carry harder hahah

cosmic cypress
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^^^

lime sparrow
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Oh no, here come's Stevo pulling off a Stevo again in 3
2
1

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aw i scared him away :(((

cosmic cypress
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Rip

pine falcon
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Loool

lime sparrow
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Oh nvm here he comes
Cmon cmon cmon cmon

pine falcon
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We are like sharks, waiting for the divers cage to break

cosmic cypress
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Lolll

sonic sedge
cosmic cypress
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U didn’t even do top damage and u killed a med and a light in a superheavy

pine falcon
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if you call 2.3K damage a carry then haha Also we can observe again. YOU ARE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF YOUR TEAM

sonic sedge
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not far off

lime sparrow
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2.3k dmg really is a carry

sonic sedge
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Destroying two enemy tanks single handedly is though

cosmic cypress
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I’m almost more impressed u managed to lose that much health to those two tanks

lime sparrow
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You were facing a type 59 and a bulldog
That's not really that bad in a 252

pine falcon
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The battle on oasis palms, you went alone to the heavy area. On the battle on Port Bay, you went flanking in a 252u. ANd now you are in the exact opposite direction of your team. I am beginning to see a pattern

sonic sedge
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Still won against them though & the rest of the players should have won with those odds but didn’t, what does that tell you!?

cosmic cypress
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If you went with your team probably could of steamrolled them and dealt with meds with ur team

pine falcon
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Maybe that flank fell because there was not a top tier super good heavy tank not be there to suck up the damage for his weaker armored allies....

cosmic cypress
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No no why would u do that when u can lose all ur health and kill two mediums that can barely pen u

neat slate
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You rolled the dice, and went on a flank from the rest of your team. If the whole enemy team went your flank you would have been rolled on and this conversation wouldnt be happening right now. You just got lucky you only had to fight 1 tier 8 and 1 tier 7 medium as a top tier heavy

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You shouldnt be depending on luck to 'carry'

pine falcon
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@cosmic cypress its like, why be fronline in a an IS4 and try to be the damage sponge when you can just sit and farm lets say a Type 61 and a bat chat who can barely pen you when you angle even with prammo

undone vortex
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Wait I don't get how he lost so much HP to a Type59 who has 175mm pen and a bulldog that can only AP the bottom part of a 252U's back

pine falcon
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@undone vortex not a type 59, a type 62. NVM I am dumb.

cosmic cypress
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@pine falcon exactly that’s a much smarter idea

neat slate
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He barely survived as well, and he is showing it off as an achievement. All the screenshot shows is that he isnt a team player

undone vortex
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And why go alone and not with ur team anyways kek

heavy pendant
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So do the math for me. I lose 73 points in all with 14 victories out of 52 games.

pine falcon
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Stevo reminds me of people who yolo into 6 tanks and then complain why their team didn't help

undone vortex
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@heavy pendant how about win more then

heavy pendant
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How about get an actual argument

desert kite
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Stevo reminds me of people who yolo into 6 tanks and then complain why their team didn't help
Pretty common sight smh

undone vortex
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What do you want to argue about? MM?

pine falcon
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Beating a dead horse softens the meat inside

cosmic cypress
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Stevo is my entertainment for the car ride I’m on now lol

neat slate
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I havent played ratings since the first day. I just have this feeling I am gonna go on a loss streak 😆

lime sparrow
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im just gonna push to plat then just stop from there
already went diamond last season, no energy for that again this time

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus And again who do you consider skilled enough?

desert kite
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I don’t get why some people like to rant so much about ratings. Yeah, I had a bad start in calibration. Just get over it and do your best. Even in a Löwe (not really what you would call a meta/ideal for ra(n)tings tank) I pulled out 65% wr over ~20 games in it, farming a good chunk of credits. Ofc you will always occasionally get some steamrolls, but it happens in pubs too. Just do what you can (concerning stevo, avoid going alone when all your teammates are driving in the opposite direction).

lyric mirage
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Hi

karmic ridge
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Ah yes stevo from ftc, ye i met him before, that was fun too 🤣🤣🤣🤣

median wagon
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Rip waw

native marten
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hey guys the chosen one is speaking yet again

neat slate
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Didnt you send a picture a few hours ago where you did the same thing and went the opposite way from your team?

native marten
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stevo really do be using his galaxy brain to employ the biggest and baddest of all tactics known to mankind lmao

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus And again who do you consider skilled enough?
@muted shuttle Wouldn't be ideal to have WG pick players with REAL accounts with REAL WR to play rating battles?

native marten
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bruh are you suggesting FAKE win rate is a thing

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus Again, why do you think that WR is relevant?

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess stevo1100r#2917 has been warned.

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus Again, why do you think that WR is relevant?
@muted shuttle i don't know how the algorithm works but i'll be glad to learn. Pls tell me just how exactly the rating MM works.

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bruh are you suggesting FAKE win rate is a thing
@native marten And you really don't have an idea?

native marten
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dude, how do you fake a win rate

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that is legit something I don't know

ornate spoke
cosmic cypress
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Nice

hot spindle
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nice.

native marten
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nice

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dude that was too believable

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looks like 100 to me

ornate spoke
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Stop typing in all caps

muted shuttle
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@native marten Play one battle, have 100WR and play rankeds only after, boom you've got a super unicum

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@lavish walrus What algorithm, you've suggested to use WR no?

next gull
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What is going on with the credit coeff in ratings ?

heavy pendant
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You can’t play ranked after one battle

lime sparrow
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You gain 30% more credits in plat
60% more in Diamond

From what I heard

next gull
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This I know. But this season I am nearly losing creds every battle, no matter what

lime sparrow
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Play more premiums

next gull
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I could. But I am playing same tanks and losing creds when I was earning last season

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Can you check too ?

mossy badger
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premium account? repair/provision costs? pramo usage?

next gull
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Yes obviously, but I am just comparing this season to last, with same tanks same gameplay (more or less).

lime sparrow
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Maybe it’s modular damage

lean zenith
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Try to take less damage, and shoot less prammo as well as don't spam your consumables.

marsh sail
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Is the 49 good in ratings?

lime sparrow
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Eh

mellow flower
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Makes ratings a little less painful

lime sparrow
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Get gud

lime sparrow
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Git gud*

next gull
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I think I got it : I have unlocked recently the last equipment slot that reduces the cooldown time of the consumables. At least that's the correlation I see.

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus What algorithm, you've suggested to use WR no?
@muted shuttle I suggested that WG better find a way to put mediocre or better players in the game than players who play rating battle without a clue how to play the game entirely. Its simple actually. If you don't get this End, I'm better off with the sarcastic dude 😉

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus I get that but you do not seem to realize what are you actually proposing ) So please explain to us, how would you distinguish between a good and a bad player. That is all )

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus I get that but you do not seem to realize what are you actually proposing ) So please explain to us, how would you distinguish between a good and a bad player. That is all )
@muted shuttle Oh, i get it now. Nice played. You are the ironic and the other one is the sarcastic. I guess a good player is one who goes where the WHOLE team is going, and actually shoots the enemy, while covering also... (i too can become BOTH sarcastic AND ironic as you can see)...

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus I am not being ironic, I am simply asking you to explain your thoughts

undone vortex
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I mean if you want really skilled mm on both sides just go play tournaments

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus I am not being ironic, I am simply asking you to explain your thoughts
@muted shuttle Ok. Point taken. Right, lets see. I was only suggesting that must be a way, for experienced players, to get a proper evaluation that ratings gives, without the frustration and the agony, that lower experienced players are causing. Is that hard to grasp?

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus Mate come on, stop posting the same message, move on from this point, I would like to hear something more about it, you are proposing a fictional situation but I am not really sure whether you understand that the system we currently have is the best one at the moment.

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"must be a way" - Explain what you think would be the best or is this all?

lavish walrus
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"must be a way" - Explain what you think would be the best or is this all?
@muted shuttle End, with all due respect, then you must pay me the same salary a developer makes. Picture this: I am a customer, who is informing the company, who makes a product, that has some points who needs.... re adjusting. And the representative of that company is saying to the client, that he must cut that crap and move on. I am suggesting that to hold your customers you must innovate and YOU must move on and you are telling me to cut the crap.... be MORE resourceful, like the GRAVITY battles, which in my opinion the guy who thought about it must receive a thick raise, a company car, and a place in the most brilliant ideas EVER. So, do something like that with the Ratings, and believe me, i am not the only one that is nagging but i am the only one that talks openly about it....

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Don't answer hastly

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Read first ;)

I mean if you want really skilled mm on both sides just go play tournaments
@undone vortex Then there is no need for Rating Battles, is there Sherlock.

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus 🙂 Look, you want something to improve, and I would like that too. That is all well and good but what I keep telling you is, that this current MM is the best we have ever had. Winrate is irrelevant so you cannot base a new MM upon that, same goes for the WN7/8 etc.

undone vortex
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Read first ;)
@undone vortex Then there is no need for Rating Battles, is there Sherlock.
@lavish walrus you expect rating battles to be 14 60% then? What we have now is workable

muted shuttle
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That is all, you came here: "I want this and this improved.... etc etc" so I wanted to ask you what would you change, you failed to prove that )

undone vortex
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And if people complain about teams being bad at 3-4k ratings which is the norm then that's just weird cause those rating numbers are of the average players

muted shuttle
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With all the respect I see zero reason why you think you lose too much @lavish walrus

lavish walrus
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That is all, you came here: "I want this and this improved.... etc etc" so I wanted to ask you what would you change, you failed to prove that )
@muted shuttle I see your point, but i am not a developer my dear End. You are telling me that WR is no way a measure of being an average or a good enough player for the Rating system, to qualify for the games. And you want me to "find" the way and give it to you, so you can make that happen. I am pointing things that in MY opinion should change, i giving you ideas, and you keep saying that i fail to prove, what exactly?

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrusWhat ideas?

lavish walrus
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With all the respect I see zero reason why you think you lose too much @lavish walrus
@muted shuttle I never said that i lose so much. That is a lie.

muted shuttle
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Sorry then, everybody does only that in here

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrusWhat ideas?
@muted shuttle read above

pallid arch
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mAtCh MaKiNg iS RiGgEd

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus There are none concrete ideas, just random thoughts )

lavish walrus
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With all the respect I see zero reason why you think you lose too much @lavish walrus
@muted shuttle And i am more or less happy with my rating. It's not Super but i am content.

muted shuttle
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@lavish walrus We could take this to PM and not flood it in here )

pallid arch
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What I want to see happen is have ratings matchmaking ONLY for all players for a week as an experiment

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus There are none concrete ideas, just random thoughts )
@muted shuttle Lol End. You made me spill my coffe right now...

muted shuttle
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Okay then, have a nice day

lavish walrus
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@lavish walrus We could take this to PM and not flood it in here )
@muted shuttle Ah, there is no need mate. Although this is making better with English writing, we should better, leave it alone (not because of chatting with you). But we would never gonna make anything out of an atermon discussion.. so lets leave it...

muted shuttle
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As you wish, when you come up with something concrete we can discuss that further! )

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Thanks for your time

undone vortex
lavish walrus
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The ideas of how mm is not good enough
@undone vortex i think that you got it wrong, mate.

undone vortex
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Then what are you mad about?

lavish walrus
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As you wish, when you come up with something concrete we can discuss that further! )
@muted shuttle Sure End

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Then what are you mad about?
@undone vortex Excuse me, but i never implied that i was mad about it. And really now, i am not gonna start this over, just to prove my point...

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Me and End, closed the matter (at least between us).

undone vortex
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I mean your best bet is to make it so that you need a certain amount of in game hours before you can play ratings like for say 50h cause MM will never change since it's already as good as it gets

lavish walrus
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I mean your best bet is to make it so that you need a certain amount of in game hours before you can play ratings like for say 50h cause MM will never change since it's already as good as it gets
@undone vortex i see your point. If the MM the best that the game has then i better play with what i have. Sure.

granite marsh
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hi

ornate spoke
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bob the man oof

dusty stirrup
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A lot of players who complain about MM don’t seem to understand the fact that it works in your favour too. The reason MM is good is because it’s always fair. While sometimes you get bad teams, you’ll also get terrible enemy teams too, and you’ll end up 7-0 steamrolling them. We just never remember that because our brains are wired for negativity bias. Imagine if MM was heavily based on a skill metric, such as WR or WN7/8. You, if you’re a unicum, would instantly have your stats decrease because instead of being the best in your team, you’ll be average, or sometimes even the worst player, on your team. Imagine being matched with superunis and top players every single game. If you’re not one of them, or don’t play at their level consistently, your WR will undoubtedly drop to 40-50%. Imagine trying to ace a tank with a team full of players better than you. Good luck, with that.

As much as I would like to complain about bad teams, I at least remember the times MM was in my favour, giving me 30, 40, 50-game win streaks. Just be thankful we unicums get to come up against players we can easily outplay. Most PvP games aren’t like this.

sonic sedge
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I have an idea, which I’ve mentioned before, don’t let players play ratings until they have over a certain amount of battles (over 2000 maybe) & perhaps have at least one tier 10 vehicle, also let them calibrate in normal battles & not in ratings!Or if they have to calibrate in ratings keep them in the lowest league & don’t put them with players that are actually calibrated in a higher league!

late mural
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Calibration is useless, and should be eliminated totally.

worldly anvil
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how else are you supposed to be put into leagues then based on your skill
if you calibrate well it saves so much time and effort

late mural
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But the big dirty problem in ratings are the OP premium tanks. Every team seems to have 5-7 prem tanks, especially the better premiums. Try fighting in a poor tech-tree tank against the P2W gold noobs!

Of course greedy WG cares only about $$$$$, not about having a fair competitive game. Disgusting P2W greed.

worldly anvil
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Play tier 10 then

lean zenith
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I mean, they're a business, they want to make money. All their balance changes and things are to make people give them more money and to make the game more fun, not necessarily balanced.

late mural
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GREED = BAD business. A good business would make a fair game, which also would make better money in the long run.

lean zenith
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No, they look at the populations. They notice that there are very few skilled players and a lot of newer players that are entering the game. So they prey on the newer and worse players with tantalizing offers of premium tanks and crates. A strategy that works really well and these newer players who are barely past tier 2 already have like 4 different tier 10 premium/collector tanks as well as other high tier non-tech tree premiums. This is why you have so many people with less than 1000 battles, but already have like 20 different rare premiums.

fallen mortar
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in my opinion calibration is a bit useless just let everyone start at 3k and apply the same rule that is active rn for the first 10 battles so the + is x3 and you loose 3x more (for the first 10 battles)

worldly anvil
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according to some random guy a long time ago you start at 3k, its just not shown

late mural
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I dont care if they sell 100 premium tanks to everyone. Just dont make them OP. It's the expensive OP tanks that are the problem. GREED, evil greed.

worldly anvil
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Play tier 10

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Or git gud
:3

late mural
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Oh, you think no OP premiums at tier 10? LOL.

undone vortex
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There isnt

late mural
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Then there are those stupid rockets too. Another POS feature in Blitz.

worldly anvil
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Yes, there aren’t any OP premiums at tier 10. The t22, which i think you’re thinking of, only has troll armour. Vk 90 is extremely rare, and when you do meet it, get to its side.
Rocket tanks can’t be helped as of now, and theyre not premium.

undone vortex
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Update is coming nerf is coming anything more to say?

lean zenith
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Every tank is OP until you learn its weakspots, which is pretty much always skill rounds. Either way, find a teammate and use them to distract said OP tank while you flank around.

pine falcon
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The only tank that are currently broken imo are the Sheridan and T92 because you know why. Tanks like T22, or AX etc. are extremely good but they are by no means broken.

ornate spoke
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WG says Realistic battles with only tech tree tanks. Ok, now i ask you: it's that hard to allow only tech tree tanks on Rating battles?

lean zenith
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T-22, just don't shoot the tracks
AX: force it to reveal its hull
T92: Memey front angle
Sheridan: Very memey spaced armor

worldly anvil
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One is realistic while the other is a “more skill based” classic battles

pine falcon
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@ornate spoke where have they said it will be for tech tree only tanks? Just asking

ornate spoke
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The only tank that are currently broken imo are the Sheridan and T92 because you know why. Tanks like T22, or AX etc. are extremely good but they are by no means broken.
@pine falcon The question is the spamming. On tier VIII (i believe u saw this too), only two or three tanks are tech tree tanks

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@ornate spoke where have they said it will be for tech tree only tanks? Just asking
@pine falcon in the news.

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They send it at the Realistic Batttles rule's.

pine falcon
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Yeah. The only currently meta tier 8s tech tree tanks are probably the Tiger II, and high pen TD as lets face it, the current meta is the heavy one.

median wagon
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Tiger 2 is broken

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Oh here comes stevo

sonic sedge
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Tiger 2 is as it is, a strong heavy tank. Sides are fairly easy to pen as is the turret, you just need to learn how to confront it.

pine falcon
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And how do you confront a tiger 2 exactly? It has an excellent gun and amazing traverse speed, allowing it to mostly keep his front toward you

lean zenith
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I was able to CoD a tiger in my type 61. You have to stay as close to the tiger as possible, the farther out you are, the easier it is for the tiger to turn his front to you.

mossy badger
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The only premium I’m maining this season is Type 59 and it’s by no means an op premium

lean zenith
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yeah type is very powercreeped

fallen mortar
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have fun fighting a Tiger 2 in mediums for example Type 59 or T-44 they cant even pen the front with prammo

lean zenith
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get the side

fallen mortar
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its not that easy

cosmic pendant
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Get the sides, they say. Yet they keep forgetting how fast that thing turns

ornate spoke
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Just shoot the cupola. It’s legit so easy to shoot. I never miss. If u miss, u just can’t aim

cunning jay
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Why complain that you can't fight a heavy frontally in a medium when you can try other things to win the game? that's kind of the point of heavy class.
Also german heavies are helpless if you sidehug them in your russian mediums. tracking shot even if no dmg helps.

fallen mortar
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i have no problem to 1 v 1 a Tiger II but they arent alone in a rating match, sniping the cupola of a Tiger II in a Type 59 or T-44 is just pure RNG and they wont stay out in the open they usually have some kind of obstacle around them so if you side hug they either pen your cupola or just use the obstacle to get you away

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also you dont have the chance to flank all the time if the Tiger II uses a good position you cant just run to a different flank since the time it takes you to get there your team just melts away and im not entirely sure but i think Tiger II even has more dpm than Type 59 and T-44

marsh valley
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laughs in t-34-2 being able to completely side hug any heavy at its tier

lime sparrow
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Im maining the e75

desert kite
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Löwe/E50 M here

neat slate
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I wouldnt say the cupola is easy to shoot.

desert kite
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If the Tiger II is moving back and forth, then even for accurate guns hitting the cupola will be challenging.

native marten
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the cupola's easy to shoot if they aren't moving, but unfortunately most players, even the unskilled ones, have somewhat mastered the ability of moving so actually it's not that easy to hit

desert kite
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Yeah, in tanks like a Löwe I can hit the cupola of a wiggling/moving Tiger II at mid-close range but it’s not guaranteed.

cosmic cypress
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You shouldn’t even be in a situation where you’re fighting a tiger 2 frontally in a med. If it’s late game, you should have enough room to maneuver to flank him

bleak crest
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Why are so many clanless players in ratings?

queen socket
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Cause they want the is6 fearless

mossy badger
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What does clanless have to do with anything? Rn in NA a clanless player is ranked one of the highest rn

late mural
queen socket
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Rip my ratings day just started

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Sadly the only way to win in ratings is a prem. almost all prems are better than tech counterparts

crimson goblet
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not really, its just sad seeing all these false claims in this chat keep appearing, why even play a pershing in ratings? its one of the weakest t8s even for tech trees,makes no bloody sense

queen socket
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P44 better med for ratings

crimson goblet
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that has nothing to do with anything i just said

queen socket
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Well ok :/

lethal fog
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maybe he wants the camo on pershing?

crimson goblet
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well then he shouldnt complain

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he does 1.2k average dmg in a tier 8, i dont honestly think that getting a decent result was possible with those stats

lethal fog
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yeah nah
i calibrated on 3.1k using 215b while having 3.1k avrg dmg

loat 6 out of 10 tho

crimson goblet
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im not talking about you tho

late mural
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Exactly the point: why play poor tech tree tanks. You must play expensive P2W premium tanks to get anywhere in rating.

GREEDY WG.

lethal fog
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nah in saying that sometimes its impossible to do good due to bad teams

crimson goblet
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no, you are just bad at the game if you do 1.2k and dont even with half your games,sorry but thats just straight facts,even if you had a prem i dont think you wouldve done any better

lethal fog
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like my 4 last games i harcore carry 5k or 6k dmg but still was a lose for me
big sed
wr affects so much :/

crimson goblet
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wr doesnt get affected and doesnt affect rating whatsoever

lethal fog
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the 10 battles affects

crimson goblet
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your own results still matter the most,as u still can get points even when loosing

lethal fog
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then why did i calibrated on 3.1k
umm idk
weird

crimson goblet
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wrong channel @lavish walrus

lavish walrus
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ok, where do you want me to put that?

crimson goblet
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no where, go on other servers if you want to cry about teams, everyone has them,also dealing just 1k yourself doesnt really give you any permission to complain tbh

lavish walrus
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oh really?

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do you wonder why a TD alone made that?

crimson goblet
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even so, jag has amazing dpm

ornate spoke
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Is this still going on?

lavish walrus
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yes it has

even so, jag has amazing dpm
@crimson goblet Lol yes it has

crimson goblet
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yes it is spart,sorry mate, but it seems that ppl cant stop complaining even if you logically respond

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess RynnivaTykki#7484 has been warned.

crimson goblet
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reaching diamond is not hard,its all about spamming games

neat slate
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playing a pershing in rating is an outstanding move

crimson goblet
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i played the sp1c in ratings,got to 5k and got my camo on it, i didnt complain,as i know how to play 😄

ornate spoke
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What if I told you the Pershing is a perfectly capable medium if played correctly?

lavish walrus
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What if I told you the Pershing is a perfectly capable medium if played correctly?
@ornate spoke i have it and i agree

crimson goblet
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Ok now come the WG lackeys with their censorship.

GG again.
@late mural they dont even get paid what are you on about?

ornate spoke
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@late mural if you can't make a point without insulting someone that is on you.

lime sparrow
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I don’t think I have the energy to spam to diamond

ornate spoke
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I know that I don't

neat slate
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Im perfectly fine sitting at plat and finishing there.

lethal fog
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tryhars in every battles
or spam it alot

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otherwise u will end up on losing your last rate

neat slate
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@crimson goblet maybe you can play the sp 1 c all the time in ratings after the buffs 😆

crimson goblet
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all i am doing it rating lately is farming camos in ratings, i dont care about rating enough otherwise,unless wg does another RB...

neat slate
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I dont really care about the camos if I am honest

late mural
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Just do more deletes, poor mod. That's all you can contribute to this discussion.

crimson goblet
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im a camo junkie, i got 42 different camos on my hellcat (excluding the common once) i wish t6 rating was a thing

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i can bet you my account he is way better ingame, and doesnt need to do so anyway,as i am already here to disproof all of your points

neat slate
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A lot of the tanks in my garage I have had there for a few years, so I racked up a lot of camos on them, that I do really like a lot. Triumph camo, the blitz birthday orange camo or even the ole ole ole camo lol

crimson goblet
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i wish i had the old ones, i am missing most of them (started playing end 2017 but collecting just this year) aswell as some Halloween camos etc

neat slate
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Some of the old ones are really good. I do hope they bring them back at some point

ornate spoke
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@late mural keep your comments civil and they won't be deleted 🤯

lime sparrow
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Big brain

blissful portal
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How can you play rating battles if at the beginning of a battle ask what is callibration...

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So we have the 40% players and the players who doesnt even know what the game mode is about...

lethal fog
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that's not Rating battle anymore
that's basically a fun room

median wagon
native marten
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the man the myth the stevo

lean zenith
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send battle results

median wagon
pine falcon
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Damn guys, stevo is now close to almost 3.8K. Damn he really has made an improvement

lime sparrow
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Holy s***, 829 dmg
That must be some kind of record

mossy badger
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@crimson goblet dang i thought i was world's first for diamond camo in sp 1c

median wagon
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Do it with St Emil

mossy badger
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st emil has a decent gun; the only thing i really remember is that i was in a 1v3 and then i ran out of ammo in a 1v1 jajaja

median wagon
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T28 with diamond lol

agile sphinx
median wagon
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Bruh

queen socket
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Get it with sp I c

lean zenith
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get it with amx m4 45

lime sparrow
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You’re in the 4.6 —> 5.6k range. You generally lose and gain less points

hazy bronze
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Why is even a thing rating

deft pebble
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i always go for. platuim rating

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because the diamond is just going to become the platinum in the future

fallen mortar
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Stonks 5k fighting with 800 🤣

desert kite
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lol

crimson goblet
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i dont quite understand why this screenshot in here, anyone got a clue?

muted shuttle
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No )

neat slate
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People like to ignore channel guidelines in this server

desert kite
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It just shows the E5 and 263 carried their respective teams

ornate spoke
ornate spoke
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My Ratings grew only 200 points yesterday. 😔 I can't even complain, lol. Was farming money for new tanks.

desert kite
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Ratings aren’t bad if you are willing to farm credits

undone vortex
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Just win

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Lol not my fault you can't carry or do well

cunning jay
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why not take a break and comeback later, or tomorrow...

median wagon
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It’s not bad

undone vortex
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@dim heron is that a sign that you should stop and come back in 30mins?

median wagon
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What tier and tank are you playing

undone vortex
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Also I lost like 6 in a row but gained back those points in the next 2 match

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I mean it's not that hard to climb up you know

median wagon
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I feel suspense when the queue time is long

undone vortex
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Wew that's gonna take a lot of work then

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I mean I went to 6500+ last season so ye I guess so?

cunning jay
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so i didn't try ratings after calibration, I'm in asia too. how's sheridan and t92 spam?

undone vortex
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Diamond gets 5 and top 5 gets 100 ye

median wagon
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I’m at 4.2k atm

undone vortex
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Uh Asia eh idk but shldnt really matter just pick a decent tier X to "spam"

cunning jay
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ok

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1 month season previous was 2 months

undone vortex
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@dim heron I mean don't ask me I ain't wg still at least it makes the tank harder to get idm

lean zenith
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I don't even want diamond, the plat camo is better

undone vortex
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@dim heron what if you get top 5 then Smh instead of complaining

sonic sedge
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I got up to nearly 4k rating points then the yoyo took full effect & I start getting poor team players, then you get all the abuse just because you’re still in the battle!
Surprised I’ve not ran out of support tickets yet..reporting all the online abuse, surely abusive players can be banned from playing ratings for a few days, perhaps that will curtail their abuse!

worldly anvil
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yoyo effect?
bruh

sonic sedge
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Yeah, you go up then you get put back down again!Got back up but then got put back down...’yoyo effect’! 🤣

lean zenith
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It's almost like, you don't know when you're on a losing streak, so you go on to lose all your rating

keen moonBOT
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dynoSuccess Venator#5269 has been warned.

pine falcon
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Also I want to add, that using emojis (which you do a lot) to express your emotions just means you are incapable of expressing it with word.

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Also nice, the bot send you your deleted message in DMs. If anyone wants it, I can give it to them. It is a documentary-style message on you know who

muted shuttle
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@weak dagger Had a small amount of battles and got 6k

pine falcon
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@muted shuttle bruh. Herrmroz is OP. Like what are you supposed to do against him or like object3.

bleak crest
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Did you read the matchmaking patent filed by wargaming in the US, @worldly anvil ? The yo-yo effect is well documented there.

HerrMroz plays on PC, of course he wins more.

pine falcon
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bruh... you still need a shit ton of skill to keep 80% wr, that is even if you play in platoon all the time

fallen mortar
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imagine claiming that HerrMroz and Object3 are just good because they use a certain device

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soo beeing good on phone = no life and beeing good with less time = PC user and thats sooo much easier than phone stop blaming anyone but your own awful performance

blissful portal
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Really how many times will players complain about MM is it normal losing 10 battles in a row? Bots just destroy you good rating

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Full of bots Obj.252, Progettos, Action X...

lean zenith
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Because MM is very random and you get win streaks as well as losing streaks. We just don't notice the win streaks because we focus on the negative

sick leaf
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My point is that why are the streaks there in the first place, win or lose. Some of the streaks seem too long to be random (I have no real evidence, the streaks just feel unusual)

median wagon
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Progetto is the most annoying rating tank

blissful portal
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@lean zenith You call streak to 5 wins? vs more than 10 loses?

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Just finished a battle where we had a bot Type 62 drowning in castilla...

median wagon
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In rating ?

blissful portal
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Yes

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And a 900 battles player doing 0 DMG with IS

lime sparrow
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good on phone = no life and beeing good with less time = PC user and thats sooo much easier than phone stop blaming anyone but your own awful performance
Mobile has the better auto-aim system.
PC feel's better in other fields but I'm trying to figure out why, since i play both platforms

restive dawn
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Manual zoom and multitasking pc advantages

lime sparrow
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Manual Zoom I actually never used. The jumps in magnification are a lil wack

restive dawn
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Its always max when using anyway

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Manual zoom is best for Long shots to the moving target

worldly anvil
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@bleak crest ok