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#rating-battles
lime sparrow
native marten
you get the platinum avatar + camo for tank
lime sparrow
is the camo permanent
regal zephyr
This is 100% fine
mellow flower
I feel like maybe I should just stay at 5000 when I reach it instead of trying to reach the top, tying to do that will probably piss me off even more
Should I try to reach the top? Or nah
crystal bay
Can we get a “little league” for silver league and below players
regal zephyr
Gold too^
crystal bay
How about—like you wont get matched with ppl 1000 points above/below you unless you are the top 100 so mm isnt forever
regal zephyr
I don’t want to fight against a team of Tryhards at all tbh
Especially when the teams are un-balanced
crystal bay
I just dislike how even some platinum league players are getting into majority bronze league teams
Also, i think rating should be based on damage, assisted damage, spotting and kills shouldn’t effect it at all.
If it is to effect maybe only by so much
lime sparrow
Finally got Platinum btw
Now I will never have to play ratings seriously ever again
ocean dome
The only way to solve the OP premium spam is tech tree ratings,there's is no other better decision but WG would never do that sadly
tall berry
literally spam t8 and thats easy diamond league
fallen mortar
If something like in tourneys would be possible with worse rewards for T8 spamers but I actually don't know how that would be possible
rugged pulsar
it would be fun
crystal bay
Or maybe wg can have a trial where the professional players work together to balance out all the tanks and let people run their tanks in a TRIAL mode (like an event mode like uprising, etc
tall magnet
Try to play Tier 7 Rating when you are in platinum level.... pfffffff!
pine falcon
tier 7 only works when you are in gold league and bellow. If you are above 4K it is either tier 9 or 10, otherwise queues are looong
bleak crest
Tier 8 is better than 9. Too many games lost because of team members no matter the rating. Just not profitable to play.
agile sphinx
They should make it tier 10 only so it's actually difficult to get a prem at that tier, and it's impossible to club at tier 7 and 8 and pretend that makes you as good as someone playing tier 10
fallen mortar
its nom4d they sealclub a lot xD
agile sphinx
"But it's unfair having 3 lights on a team"
Ofc 5 heavies is perfectly fine 🤦♀️
If you look at the rating queue on EU you get a nice ratio of about 4:2👍2 of heavies:meds:lights:TDs, although it does sometimes go up to 2👍1:1. Says a lot about what the dominant class is, and to everyone with any sense it says that heavies do not need a blanked HP buff.
bleak crest
Heavies are buffed so inexperienced players contribute and win more
lime sparrow
It’s also more free hp for the experienced players as well. What’s your point
agile sphinx
@lime sparrow Hey you know what? Let's make this game into a 3v7. Its more free hp for me to farm isn't it? 🤦♀️
I hope you realise that heavies were already the easiest class to play and now they are as rewarding as meds. You now need no skill to do well, you just need a maus. That is just stupid and completely unbalanced.
lime sparrow
@agile sphinx You really tried to compare a 3v7 to 5 heavy tanks, thinking that was an actual analogy LOL
I hope you realise that most of the heavies barely got more than 300 hitpoints, which is literally just one medium shot. Is it a heavy buff? Yes. Does this mean that you can suddenly play like a turd just because you have a portion of a bit more HP? Heavies are still heavies. They're tough, sure, but they're still slow and practically like cattle once you throw in some meds.
If you can't handle 5 heavies, then either blame your teammates for not working together, or just blame yourself for spending more time complaining about a Maus than actually getting gud 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️
agile sphinx
@lime sparrow I can't remember the exact average but it was over 350, which makes it 1-2 more penetrating shots, which can be a hell of a long time. Heavies can now outperform meds (as shown by the stats) and are easy to play.
5 heavies makes games horrifically boring and stagnant, even more so than 3 TDs. I really hope you weren't serious about telling me to get better as well because that makes you look very ignorant.
The simple fact is that swapping out 2 meds for 2 mauses gives you at least 2k more hp, which is almost another tank. Obviously it doesn't make it into a 7v8 but it makes it close to that.
A maus with an awful damage ratio of 1:1 will have 3k average damage which is considered very good. That is plenty enough to tell you that the heavy buff was a stupid idea
lime sparrow
- personally I like heavy slugfests
2)swapping out any 2s medium for a 2 maus's would also mean 2k less dpm
3)I still disagree so I'm just gonna leave it at that
agile sphinx
@lime sparrow Whether you like the or not doesn't matter in the slightest, it is not what the game is about.
2k less dpm for 2k more hp and that much more armour is a great trade
That sounds awfully like the normal "I've realised I'm wrong/I've run out of ways to back my point up but I don't want to admit it" sentence to me 🤷♀️
median wagon
As if heavies weren’t good enough, and now theyre getting more HP buffs.. ok
low sandal
@patent pier what happened to the rewards from rbc_march?
pine falcon
@low sandal I am pretty sure all 3-of the winners every, nub and ninja all have away all of the tanks they could
lime sparrow
@agile sphinx Nah. It means that I don't find any fault behind your logic but I still think that my mindset is better. I really could care less about what you're going to say now 🤷♀️
agile sphinx
@lime sparrow So you agree with the opposite of what you think, but you won't change your point of view. That's very smart 🤦♀️
lime sparrow
@agile sphinx Yes because I think that we're both providing valid reasons so I'm deciding to chose my reasons over yours. It is very smart. I'm glad that you noticed. 🤦♀️
crystal bay
Why does black prince take infinite time to be matched
I have kept going in mm for matchmaking and have prob waited 30m overall and i never got to use bp
In rating
Not only that, but it matches all tier 7s exept for me
agile sphinx
@lime sparrow You can't agree with two opposing viewpoints at the same time...
pine falcon
@crystal bay are you seriously complaining about queue times, in rating ... at tier 7? That is literally the only tier to avoid in rating as its always bottom tier, most bad players play it and it isn't really that competitive.
median wagon
Honestly, the black prince is overpowered
lime sparrow
@agile sphinx Yes I can....
agile sphinx
@lime sparrow No because that is a contradiction. You cannot say that 1+1=3 as well as agreeing 1+1=2. You either choose one or the other and if you can't back up your points and you agree with mine then I think you agree with me 🤷♀️
mossy badger
heavies now have lower skill floor. mediums generally are still more rewarding to play for a skilled user,
fallen mortar
Not really you could just jump into a heavy and do even more since they don't punish, you as hard for mistakes unlike mediums where one mistakes easily costs you your entire hp pool and as a medium you usually have to use Cs and heat to effectively fight a Maus when it still has a team as backup same with E100 penning those is just using heat and lowering you dpm while in case of E100 he keeps his 2700 dpm or so
agile sphinx
That's just plain wrong, heavies have always had a high skill floor because they compensate for all of your mistakes with armour and hp (and now even more hp). Meds are now only really better to play than heavies if you are a unicum. In ratings it's actually quite easy to guess the average rating based of how many heavies, and at about 4-4.5k you are still seeing 3 heavies a game. At games higher than that you see more meds, but heavies are still prominent. The level of skill that's needed to outperform a heavy in a med has gone up and so only a very small proportion of the playerbase can actually do better in meds. @mossy badger
mossy badger
@agile sphinx wait no that's what i meant... but no bc of the armor and hp and they're forgiving that's a lower skill floor (I'm not talking about skill ceiling)
agile sphinx
That's a higher skill floor, lower would mean you could do worse in it @mossy badger
next gull
I am trying to collect ratings vs ranking to do my usual stats. Surprisingly, many very bad players can not be found in blitzstars.
silver lantern
Hey
lime sparrow
@agile sphinx It's not a contradiction. I don't find faults between either 2 reasonings so I decide that I'm going with mine. Why you trying to compare it to a bunch of obvious math 🤷♀️
sonic sedge
agile sphinx
@lime sparrow Saying it's just more health to farm and then agreeing that actually it's so much worse than that is a contradiction...
native marten
It goes both ways, against a good player you’ll have a much harder time, against bad players it’s nothing more than 300HP to farm
agile sphinx
Against bad players it's 300 more hp you need to farm otherwise it's 300 more hp to distract your team and make you lose.
dull oriole
Team player:y’all suck at the game you can’t even kill one of them Me:then why you die first
sonic sedge
This shouldn’t happen, all of the players whom haven’t even calibrated yet on one side! And yes there was even one with less than 500 battles! 🙄
fallen mortar
a shame that non calibrated player did nearly twice as much dmg as you and why do you even play non meta tanks in ranked i mean its your choice but then dont complain xD
tropic solar
t26e4 is only good when top tier
fallen mortar
and facing against tanks with no pen xD
tropic solar
same ttier only good in 1v1 vs meds orr lights
sonic sedge
@fallen mortar and the other non calibrated players!? 🤦♂️
fallen mortar
they were lowtier sure they sucked but shit happens carry harder you havent even done your hp as dmg which was possible as the non calibrated Löwe did more than his hp
either way youre playing a non meta which makes it harder for you
lime sparrow
@agile sphinx woah there, I never said which I agreed with 😳
pine falcon
@sonic sedge well if you don't want calibrated players, get to 4.5k rating
sonic sedge
@fallen mortar when those uncalibrated players couldn’t hold their game together & rushed & died fast then (which is what happened) then the rest of the players get steam rollered quite easily as the enemy team now has superior numbers!
Surely that makes sense to you? And what actually made it harder was having all those none calibrated players on our side,which as I’ve already mentioned ‘shouldn’t happen’!
fallen mortar
They all already have an hidden ranking visible on BlitzStars for example they are not much different to any other player only that they have started calibrating just now I'm uncalibrated too atm on my second acc. And did the Löwe magically escaped the steamroll or how did he do 2k and yes I know Löwe has batter armor dpm and pen than super Pershing so there is really no reason to play it
@pine falcon you could've met me calibrating at 4,5k at some point 😂I've been matched with 5k people 2 seasons ago during calibration
sonic sedge
@fallen mortar well here is the preceding battle before the team got swamped with uncalibrated players...Bit of a different outcome & only using the super pershing for a med. mission 🤣
lime sparrow
I kept getting matched against PRAMO , HATED, and KRONO players. And I was only like 3.5-4.0k rating lol
native marten
hey stevo it's almost like they need to calibrate to get a rating? or were you also a noob on your first 10 ratings battles
being uncalibrated =/= being a bad player
pine falcon
@fallen mortar xD you are too good. What I meant was that after passing 4.5k you rarely meet an calibrated player. Unlike when you are 3.5k when you meet the majority of uncalibrated people
sonic sedge
@native marten they should really have a separate system for calibration or do it in normal battles like they do with some events & not chuck them in with already calibrated players well into the season just to mess things up,also players should have a minimum number of battles before they can enter ratings...but hey that’s all in an ideal game world! 😁
crystal bay
rating doesnt even help with noobs
ornate spoke
@sonic sedge i am sorry but do you even have a decent grasp on what CALIBRATION is?
fallen mortar
Only point I could agree on is the set number of battles played to enter rating and to make it possible for very good players that make rerolls or just people that are good from the start maybe make it a set wr like 65% and at least 1 T10 but that's probably way to complex
sonic sedge
@ornate spoke yeah that shouldn’t happen either!
Hey guys, what do you think is wrong here? Castilla map, ratings.
fallen mortar
the non calibrated in the enemy team sucked more then urs xD
and u faced a unicum sad story
sonic sedge
They only had one, but there’s more..
pallid arch
An uncalibrated player outperformed the rest of the team?
fallen mortar
borsig has kinda low dpm, your team had a higher avg rating
pallid arch
The enemy has a lower average rating but still won?
Or is it that the dude with the highest rating kinda crushed the enemy team?
pine falcon
I see a single thing wrong: why the hell are you playing tier 7 and complaining?
keen moonBOT
Aandic#6834 has been warned.
lime sparrow
@pine falcon
shhhh he's obviously so good that if he played tier 8, it would be an instant win 😳
bleak crest
The problem is there is still unpredictable behaviors even in 4500 matches. 5k matches are more predictable and at least someone can stick around and learn something. Unfortunately that doesn’t apply to lower rating battles as those resemble more random battles while the 5k ones are much more tournament like.
ornate spoke
Wdym, it's literally the same, this season even more than ever before as half of the players in diamond league just spammed atgms and should not be in that league. Most people in diamond are not even good, especially at team play, and not to mention that you can still meet silver league players for some reason (pls fix that).
So yea not even close to tournament experience, rating battles are more like random battles which people play for the avatar and camos (and gold if you're super tryhard)
sonic sedge
@lime sparrow that’s only if you purchase a scratch card surely for an ‘instant win’, if you’re old enough that is...
signal hazel
atgm can be a game changer if one team is not in the best of position to counter each other. imagine getting 2.5k in your team- 40% thrower who thinks they could get to diamond league if they spam enough and a few of their team wins. been stuck at 5742 and around there cuz rng and mm. mostly just sheri and 92.
but id be honest this season does feel much more harder with those atgm tanks with high alpha and mostly HE proof armor running round
lime sparrow
mines and missile tanks
pallid arch
Canal and missile tanks
ocean dome
Guys if you have an is8 on your team,say GG in the chat
mellow flower
I've been seeing players purposely go to the opposite route your team goes to and camp for the rest in the game in their E-100 or maus, somehow their ratings are high as a result of their damage dealt from camping, this behavior should be punishable
bleak cliff
The amount of complaining about teams and teammates in this channel is absurd. Ratings is no different to pubs. if anything the teams are worse. Literally stop complaining about. The MM cant be fixed in any positive way because there arent enough players playing consistently throughout the whole season.
hollow night
Ratings is different from pubs because the teams are designed to be balanced as close as possible by rating. It's the skill based matchmaking that people whine for all the time. But shocker, when teams are balanced all the time, the game is frustrating if you're not a 40%er
hazy bronze
Imagine in 5k rating battle and see a player on your team with ratings 2k and less
mellow flower
What I was trying to say was that those were competent, capable players, unfortunately they care so much about their ratings that they decide to farm dmg instead of supporting their team, in which I find quite frustrating, as winning would’ve been possible if they played their roles instead of farming
sonic sedge
@bleak cliff You’re on the NA server which is different to the EU server as there ARE less players on the NA server!
pine falcon
James is right. 90% of the active playerbase in rating is currently 4.5K+. Stevo, you are stuck with players who play rating to do missions and trying to grind credits. Just separate from that mass by gaining points. At 3K, every win with ok-ish damage is like 30-50 points
fallen mortar
And when you actually do quite good you'll get 70+ points till you reach a certain point close to 4k where your point gain changes and somewhere between 4,3 and 4,5 it changes again imo
oak shale
Ranked just a Solo player possible will they change it in future? 😦
hoary willow
solo ranked is a little bit meh. to prevent the feared rating abuse a rating range for the players in the platoon should be fine. pls bring back the platoon in ranked!!!
median wagon
7-0 and 0-7 battles are way too common in ratings, I thought they were matched based off of rating points
agile sphinx
@median wagon The issue is that as soon as one person dies, it's a 7v6 so it's immediately more difficult to get a kill if you are on the team of 6. The team of 7 will probably have one man on low hp but at higher ratings he will be smart enough to still do a bit of damage while staying safe. Once you start losing it gets harder to win, and so 7-0 or 6-0s are fairly common. It isn't because of the matchmaking, it's because of team members being good and so less likely to die
median wagon
@agile sphinx oh yeah, it’s you I just met in match as well 😆
dense vigil
Hi I have just progressed to ranked battles but I can’t play because it says I have to mount the top modules
Please help
median wagon
You need to max your tanks modules
The reason this came in place was because people were playing their stock tanks in ratings to grind because it doesn’t affect stats, but a lot of competent players complained about it
dense vigil
Thx
sonic sedge
Match making helps though if both teams are evenly matched..It doesn’t help at all if they’re not & unbalanced! There’s a lot more to matching up players & vehicles than I think WG can actually do! If they can do uprising then they could possibly make ratings a free for all but with no tank destroyers so no one snipes from cover farming damage, perhaps points could be earn’t through distance travelled, shot blocking, damage caused & longevity of being on the battle field but obviously not with uprising mods...
Just an idea..oh & leave out atgm’s too!
cosmic cypress
no tank destroyers
restive dawn
Just to let ya'll know the results of the battle are very ineffective determing wether the teams were balanced or not even in tournaments two equally good teams lets say RA1D and LGN can have a battle that ends 7-0.
It's the decisions that players make in the match that determines the score in the end. A very talented player can outplay another equally talented player and the same goes to team vs team.
If rating was a duel between player's individual ratings the one with higher rating would win.
ornate spoke
@sonic sedge or you could adapt and play the game as it's intended to be played instead of asking it to be changed to fit how YOU want to play it
next gull
@restive dawn stop saying sensible things. This is not the place.
sonic sedge
Just thinking of a way that would actually reflect ones true ‘personal rating’ instead of relying on some team mates, some of which have played less than 200 battles.@ornate spoke 😁
bleak crest
It’s a match between 2 teams, not individual players yet somehow it favors individualism. Wargaming need to close the loopholes that some exploit and earn more points by not being team players, ie camping in the back in heavies.
ornate spoke
Well MM is random and it is applied equally to all players. So it goes without saying that over time the best of the playerbase would rise to to the top.
Everyone is going to be stuck with inept teammates. The best players in the game do well despite these players .
sonic sedge
Looking forward to the black prince having a few more hit points, in the new upgrade
bleak crest
Let’s hope there will be less selfish play by heavies in ratings with that buff. I guess I need to start grinding heavies...
sonic sedge
@bleak crest I have most of them
pine falcon
Heavies are for players who want to compensate for mistakes they make.
next gull
Not in a team perspective
pine falcon
rating is about your own performance in a team battle
fallen mortar
or the greedy me playing Löwe for those juicy credits and the med dpm with the gun of a TD but unfortunately the mobility of a heavy xD
crystal bay
Im using the chi ri in rating
Wish me luck
bleak crest
You’ll need it
median wagon
Honestly the new heavy buffs are just gonna extend the match time...
oak shale
This Non Platoon Rating really frustrates
sonic sedge
@oak shale platoons were taken off the ratings menu because they were found to influence the battle too much, there were quite a few ‘toons of the FV183b is seem to remember, imagine that scenario now with a ‘toon of rocket firing sheridans 😬
oak shale
But then they should bann this Tank as Example when you enter Rating as Platoon. And not Bann Platoons. Its Frustrating to play online with 5 Randoms together and your platoon friends when this 5 much times are AFK or manipulate the game in some other way. 😦
sonic sedge
I’m done with ratings for now until it’s improved & we do actually get to fight on a level playing field against ‘equally powerful opponents’! Three in a row 👌👋
lone thistle
@sonic sedge all those 3 games: 1. You didn’t do well yourself in any of them. 2. Both teams in all 3 games are within 100 or so ratings points of each and in fact in two of them your team had highest average rating. So I really don’t get your point. I managed to reach diamond despite having less than 35% winrate for an entire week.
agile sphinx
@oak shale Rating is supposed to be a personal thing, which it does well despite what other people think. If two 60%ers played together, especially in discord, they could easily influence the outcome of the battle a lot. It was broken before it was removed and it will be broken if it's implemented again.
restive dawn
Those games arent even in a row
agile sphinx
@median wagon The issue is that as soon as one person dies, it's a 7v6 so it's immediately more difficult to get a kill if you are on the team of 6. The team of 7 will probably have one man on low hp but at higher ratings he will be smart enough to still do a bit of damage while staying safe. Once you start losing it gets harder to win, and so 7-0 or 6-0s are fairly common. It isn't because of the matchmaking, it's because of team members being good and so less likely to die
@agile sphinx
@sonic sedge Try reading this, although if you aren't playing ratings anymore that could be a good thing 🤷♀️ Funnily enough yet again you aren't exactly carrying hard when the average rating is mid 2k, where do you think you should get to as a maximum rating?
bleak crest
Those are low rating battles and therefore extremely unpredictable. Anyways, after yesterday’s experience in tournament battles when we met a diamond league player around 50% global win rate, 40% in tier x, and we plowed through them 7-0, I’m not really sure what rating means.
agile sphinx
@bleak crest Lol low rating games are the same as normal games, and if you only manage an average of about 1k damage then you sure aren't gonna win that much as stevo is finding out. Rating now means a lot more than it did with platoons, but it's still just a game spamming competition at the top.
oak shale
@agile sphinx But its already in Random matches.. If You Join as platton enemy team has a platoon too. So this would solve the problem for Rating also since both Teams have a Platoon ?
agile sphinx
@oak shale And so you can play it in random matches. The red platoon might not be using discord or might be there for fun instead of trying to win. It doesn't solve the problem at all. You clearly weren't playing when we did have platoon ratings and you clearly don't have any clue how unbalanced it was.
hoary willow
@agile sphinx everyone has the chance to use voip himself. according to your logic, you should not register as a group in any multiplayer.
if the normal games weren't so full of brain afk people it wouldn't be a problem to play unranked.
oak shale
And i think players which join the queue in SAME time to get together in a game. And manipulate if they dont land in the same team.. Are bigger problem as simple give them the Option to join together
agile sphinx
@hoary willow Right so let's make it so that I can platoon with another uni and calibrate at 5k, what could be fairer than that 🤦♀️ Oh and to make it even better, to have a fair game apparently discord is essential now otherwise you are at a huge disadvantage. That sounds like a great idea 🤦♀️
@oak shale It's possible to rig games because of the small playerbase, this is already a big issue that could do with solving but there is no good solution. Making it easier for this to happen is a stupid idea
dull nymph
Removing platoons from ratings has probably been one of the better decisions that WG implemented
oak shale
For what reduce the Playerbase? Because much Players enjoy in a multiplayer to Play with friends together and also in Rated modes? I mean come on it works in League of Legends and other games. Discord cant be a excuse
dull nymph
LoL Ratings isn't even close to what WOTB Ratings are...
Maybe < 3k rating games are different, but at > 4.5k it was full of super unis who dictated every game they were in
It might as well have been 4v4 because the rest of the teams were just fodder for the super uni platoons who just farmed the teams
Plus, those super uni platoons skewed the average rating for the team so much that it wasn't uncommon to have 2.5k players in 4.2k games; it happened to me so many times and almost every time those 2.5k players would just die within the first 30s because they simply made a single mistake that just doesn't not get punished in 4.2k games
oak shale
And if i scroll a bit up it still happens? 4.5k Player with 2k players?
Anyway i think it would be better to bann subjects which create this Heavy Impact of Platoons instead of the Platoons. Like Platoons cant use both the Same tank or both a Light tank or anything like that.
agile sphinx
@oak shale Or even better, why not ban platoons entirely, it would solve all of the problems you are needlessly creating because you are incapable of playing in literally every other game mode. Oh look we are where we are now, that's perfect isn't it?
oak shale
it doesnt solve the problems
Like i said. People Queue in Same time to get ingame together now. If they land in Enemy Teams they Sabotage it. Or manipulate with sharing dmg and other stuff
Whats solved? That 2 Players pick the Same tank to Rush the enemys from behind? Could still happen Randomly even if not 2 Friends. or With 2 Friends with Queue in same time and get the 50/50 chance ot land in same game?
agile sphinx
And so you want to make that worse by introducing platoons? You really don't know what you want do you?
oak shale
If you introduce Platoons. The Players are in same team and not the 50% chance to be enemys and sabotage it?
agile sphinx
And so you definitely have two unis who will dominate, oh that's a great idea. You clearly don't understand the issue so I suggest you stop talking about it 🤷♀️
oak shale
the issue could even happen with randoms lol.
So if you would allow platoons and in same not allow platoons to play unis. You would even reduce the problem right?
or Create 2 Rating Queues 1 for With Platoons 1 Completly Solo. So you could see what the players Prefer at end. But its like you just enjoy Solo and so everything what would speak for Platoons is a Big Nono for you lol
agile sphinx
And so I can just jump into the platoon queue and boost my rating with another superuni easily, what a great idea 🤦♀️
You still don't get the issue, so try reading this very very slowly and carefully:
You rating is about you individual. If you can platoon, it stops being individual.
And if you don't understand that then all hope is lost
oak shale
Scroll up check the Screens. And you see its not Individuall its more about full Team rating lol
quaint sorrel
when is the reset of points to rankeds?
median wagon
Next season
quaint sorrel
and when is the next season?
quaint sorrel
Okay
fallen mortar
imagine this was a rating battle and you wanted toons in there so my toon is at a 43% avg WR and the enemy toon is from loca and avg at 73% WR it would be next lvl unfair the victory of my team was pure luck because our E100 was somehow invincible
mortal axle
Unlucky
quartz aspen
Would it be fair if HisRoyalFatness and Glory started platooning in ratings? @oak shale
pallid arch
Just imagine the double competent missile toon...
quartz aspen
Taking platooning out of ratings was an excellent idea
tired vault
@oak shale tooning just caused everyone to rig matches
median wagon
Wait, how much longer is this season going for?
Aren’t rating seasons usually 1 month?
bleak cliff
spring ratings are 2 months
median wagon
That’s miserable
pine falcon
why?
median wagon
That is so long
pine falcon
its only 2months man.
pallid arch
So... +-3500 rating?
mellow flower
T-34-2 is actually a beast in ratings, you can brawl heavies with your size, your turret is godly, your gun is very accurate albeit the bad dispersion, and its alpha allows you to intimidate your fellow meds. Only downside is that its ammorack will explode 50% of the time of a 152 gun hits you. Doing very well in it
Not a good credit maker tho
median wagon
Cent 7/1 is a very good one too
native marten
I just play T-62A, the tank doesn’t take much to do well in the first place, and then if you’re good you can just easily fight most tanks
rugged pulsar
@pallid arch u know its 30k people in gold and 40k people in silver and only 3k+ in platinum and over
pallid arch
Yup. It's kinda fun playing with the same people over and over again. That match was basically nothing but new faces.
elder steppe
raiting is not echilibrateeeee. I have 4300 raiting and i play to players 2300. Is not funny. I lose and this is not funny for me
pine falcon
well don't lose and it will be funny for you
ornate spoke
This might be the dumbest thing I have read in a while
agile sphinx
@elder steppe Lower ratings on your team -> lower team rating -> lower red team rating -> easier farming -> more points
It can still be a half decent game and it's more fun when you have higher average ratings but it isn't the end of the world at all
elder steppe
Man, it annoys me when you're the first damage and the rest of the team looks at enemies. Besides, it is possible for me to be in the team being 2 or 3 care of 50 wr and for the enemies there are 2 care and 60 wr I don't like it at all. That's why I want to balance the rating. Those with small wr to play with the small ones and those with high raiting to play with the good ones. That would be balanced. @agile sphinx
pine falcon
Guys, we have the next stevo
restive dawn
it wasnt only me?
sacred verge
Same here
pliant bronze
4500 dmg few kills and 0 points ❤️
agile sphinx
@elder steppe You did 1k damage in an extremely good tank against low rated reds. You really shouldn't be complaining at all. The rating is balanced as you will see by the average (you actually had the advantage and still lost ignoring calibrating players). If you cant handle bad players then how on earth do you think you are going to do against 5k average teams? WR clearly isn't reliable to judge skill by as its extremely easy to pad, and so is a stupid way to do ratings. I could also make a new account and make it have bad WR by game throwing, and then play ratings against other bad players and get to the top very easily.
pine falcon
I just want to say that 1K damage is a single clip of a progetto so you should be able to get 1K every single game no matter the dumb decisions you make
muted shuttle
@pine falcon Good game )
pine falcon
Btw what was that fuss at the beginning?
muted shuttle
@pine falcon He blames me for every game I play with him, no matter win or lose everything that happens is my fault
We were like 2 on 6 so I farmed some damage and he thinks we could have won that one by capping a base together ))
pine falcon
Its your fault for playing the game. I blame you and no one else
muted shuttle
Yes Sir!
quick light
7? didnt it say that you would get 10 when you are over 5000?
pine falcon
@patent pier ^^^ mind fixing this? I just realized I have the same issue
muted shuttle
quick light
@muted shuttle maybe you should pin it here as well since its rating-related
void pollen
@quick light They say tomorrow it will be fixed, and 5k+ will be getting 10 coins. I read it at Ru discord.
muted shuttle
"Dear players,
We found a bug in case when players in the Rating battles in the Brilliant League receive 7 Season coins opposite of 10. Today we are planning to fix this bug and starting from the tomorrow players will be receiving the correct amount of the Season coins.
Also at the nearest days we will accrue the lost coins for those players which are earned them in the Rating battles before the bug has been fixed."
tough breach
Can we have minimum 45 WR to enter ranking battles. Guys with sub 45 or 40 like waste of time. Either that or use WR & ranking score in algorithm to get better match.
void pollen
@tough breachbro, its usually ivent time situation. Just use it to up ur rate, by saving ur xp and gaming, using xp of ur 40% teammates
muted shuttle
@quick light Players do not even read pinned stuff so
tough breach
@void pollen I know. Also depends time of day you play.
pine falcon
@tough breach you yourself are a 47%almost 48%er so I don't really think you should be talking about excluding noobish players
void pollen
@tough breachyeah, u right. At evening i see more skill players. So, the main problems starts, if u dropped in 2900-3000 ratings. Its a crazy ramdom style. 3500 and hier levels have average % of team 55+
zenith trellis
Ok i did crap in this game, but why no coins?
late mural
need minimum 500 dmg
median wagon
Honestly why am I bottom tiered so often
restive dawn
play top tier tanks
median wagon
Even those are difficult to keep up with
restive dawn
10
median wagon
The amount of noobs trying for the is-6 fearless is hilarious
pallid arch
This noob (me) is succeeding
agile sphinx
We ever going to get actual detailed (and not bugged) stats about ratings? At the moment the best we get is broken average damage and xp counters, average WR in that tier and the most played tank which really isn't helpful at all. It can't be that hard to collect and show some stats for individual vehicles without them being bugged
median wagon
Bruh I had a team that was 5.7k average, how, it’s even worse than 3k average because everyone is sweating
pine falcon
Ah yes, people complaining about being with noobs and now they complain about being with pros. Brilliant, just brilliant
pallid arch
I was calibrating my secondary account yesterday, and boy, those 2.6k average teams sucked. It felt like I was seal clubbing in tier 3.
glossy raptor
Agree with sevik
coral gust
Teams are so trash but WG does nothing..
glossy raptor
Wg cant really make people smarter
muted shuttle
@coral gust You can teach them one by one )
coral gust
hm?
median wagon
Being with noobs is better because they’re on the enemy too
coral gust
not really
bleak crest
Bad teams can't be balanced ever because players are simply inconsistent. Sometimes a bad player goes alone, meets all reds and deal nearly no damage while on another occasion he meets nobody and does huge damage from distance. Nothing can be done about that on wargaming side.
coral gust
in my case im getting noobs in my team and 60% wr players in enemy team
they can. just wg has to make like in csgo: Lems play with lems or very close ranks..
pallid arch
It is like that. Calibrate this late in the season and it becomes painfully obvious that there is a separation of super noobs and functional players
coral gust
Its not like that. Diamond league plays with silver
pallid arch
For the most part silver plays with silver and diamond goes with plat
pine falcon
never have I ever been matched up with 2.5K after passing the 5K mark
pallid arch
I mean... I was earlier today, but it has been rare
pine falcon
@pallid arch let me assume: it was either right after the update or fairly early in the morning (considering the server you are on)
pallid arch
That was literally yesterday afternoon
median wagon
I’ve only had one team where the average is over 5k, I was playing with like 2/3 of the top 10 players as well
ornate spoke
There is always a 60%er on my team
median wagon
And it’s not worth it to play tier 7 in ratings because there’s tons of tier 8s and you are bound to be downtiered
grizzled heart
When does the current season end?
pallid arch
End of may
median wagon
Giant spam of heavy tanks due to their new buffs, honestly it’s annoying having to chew through extra HP that was completely unnecessary, no one asked for a buff to heavies
Oh yeah because the easiest class to play definitely needed a giant buff... wow
burnt umbra
when the end of ranked games
torpid walrus
read above
ember gulch
biggest nonsense is buffing the smasher, its the 2nd most op tank in game and they buff it
pine falcon
Its not the second most OP. The first and second are taken by t92 and sheri
median wagon
AX is more op than smasher, because you can at least pen smasher
ember gulch
Its not the second most OP. The first and second are taken by t92 and sheri
@pine falcon heck no, the most broken tank is Ke-Ni Otsu
pine falcon
@ember gulch with Ke ni otsu you need to expose to shoot. Therefore in ke ni otsu you are risking taking damage to output damage and eventually you might die with exposing a lot. Atgms just shoot behind cover, without exposing, keeping full HP while they take 500Hp off of you every single shot
agile sphinx
490, if they pen, if they hit, if they get into a good position and have sense and you are in a bad position*
ember gulch
ATGMs require skills to hit tanks behind cover
pine falcon
490 is appropriately 500. Sheridan is super agile therefore it gets into positions faster that 95% of tanks in the game. Missiles have excellent pen and since the missile is coming down on you, your angled armor becomes an almost 90 degree steel plate, eliminating all armor increase.
About the hitting part you are correct, however you might miss one or two but for those one and two missed you hit between 5 to 7.
median wagon
T92’s hull should be enlarged, the little thing is so hard to hit
native marten
so basically bad positions include anywhere you go to spot, anywhere behind cover, and anywhere in the open, got it
agile sphinx
490 is accurate and doesn't inflate the issue which everyone seems to love doing. Just because the Sheridan can get into a good position it doesn't mean it will. They can pen a hell of a lot using angles, but they are also very easy to bait because of their speed. Interestingly enough I've just found out the Sheridan has the lowest hit rate of all tier 10s, 3rd of tiers 8-10 (ISU first, T92 second) and that includes it's very accurate APCR. It's a whole 1.5% less accurate than then 183, and we all know how accurate the 183 is.
@native marten Anywhere in the open is a bad position and I really hope you don't think otherwise, and it depends on your definition of behind cover. Spotting positions are normally exposed to every other tank as well
median wagon
Ah yes, taking ~490 to your roof while you can’t do anything is very skilful and balanced
And it’s honestly a lot of people’s favourite tank in ratings, sadly
native marten
Ok, let's take a couple examples
- Canyon, if you haven't ever seen someone throw missiles over the middle, then I don't know if you've ever played tier 8-10
- Dead rail, medium flank, there's a tiny ridge where missile tanks can literally go up, fire a missile onto people on the other side, with other non-missile tanks the best you can do is go up there, spot, and quickly back down, it's not like you'll be able to get shots on the enemies
- Mines, the center, this literally doesn't need any explanation, most tanks that can peek and get off a shot have a strong turret or good gun depression, but you switch to HEAT or whatever premium round, you can still deal damage. ATGMs on the other hand don't even need to expose any part of their vehicle, they literally just yeet missiles over the hill, regardless of whether it penetrate or not, it's not fair
- Middleburg, medium flank, it's just like dead rail. Go up the hill, make a shot, and land the missile
- Himmelsdorf - Shooting over the trains
This isn't even including the somewhat situational missiles shots you might find yourself doing in other maps, those are just the ones I see WAY too often. You can get cheeky missile shots from the behind the wall separating the middle of Winter Malinovka to tanks in the medium flank for example
median wagon
Middle burg is where it’s the most affecting...
loud zodiac
True, i feel like the missiles shouldn’t be able to be lobbed and immediately navigated down. There should be a timer before the missile can be controlled cuz right now its just artillery
agile sphinx
@native marten Canyon centre is pretty much the worst place for missiles in the entire game, and it's not that different from hulldown tanks there anyway except for the alpha and low dpm.
The dead rail position is only useful against people sitting next to but not behind those rocks near that position, and is in view of the TDs that are camping in the opposite corner no whatter if they are a heavy or light.
If you think you are penning a vaguely half competent player hulldown on mines then you are very much mistaken unless he is completely distracted by someone else. The only real good position for an ATGM tank is towards the river side which gives them an extremely limited field of view, or further back so you have time to get to cover when they shoot.
The Middleburg spot seems a lot better than it is because everyone rushes into the open like lemmings, if they used half a braincell they could see that not rushing as much gives them very similar shots but actual cover.
Himmelsdorf is literally full of cover to use, again if you are in the open you deserve to get punished.
Winter malinivovka shots take a long time to hit and are easy to bait and avoid.
ornate spoke
I don’t feel we get extra credits with our rating like it is said. I would like if you could make a separate + sign for the extra credits awarded after victory in ratings.
pallid arch
Why did all you diamond players on NA abandon tier 8 as of yesterday?
ornate spoke
why not
pallid arch
Now I cant credit grind :(
clear gust
Good question
pine falcon
@ornate spoke the season ends in the end of may
terse zenith
Ratiings is sooooooooo haaard right now
mellow moth
are u guys really gonna ignore the people who got their ratings reset
ornate spoke
yes
bleak crest
2 wins out of 10 games. It’s again impossible to play ratings
restive dawn
i'd be sad to if i got an is6
next garnet
Lol
median wagon
Bruh
cursive thorn
This rating season is totally useless, atleast 20/30 top player just spammed t92e1.(EU)
median wagon
That’s actually totally true
Because you ain’t getting to the leaderboards without a good tank.. and that tank is so broken. Plus the AX and mk1 defender
No skill tanks tbh
scenic forge
They shouldn’t allow premium tanks such as the op obj-252U , defenders, AX, soon to come super conq, ect. To play in ratings
median wagon
Object 252u op?? Let me laugh a moment
tight abyss
wargaming fix ur game ping 3000 and whatever other game i play i have 60-80 why is it always wotb that is being like this -_-
south estuary
@median wagon idk why your laughing
median wagon
It isn’t OP
ornate spoke
A lot of ppl think that Smasher's OP even in ratings, but thats definitely not true. First of all, Smashers are always in +1 tier battles, which means it's already hard for them. Even worse , there are tanks like the Action X and Obj 252U that is much, much better than the Smasher.
median wagon
Well at least you can pen smasher
pine falcon
@ornate spoke I just want to point out that Smasher is basically a tier 8 in a tier 7 body
ornate spoke
with trash gun depression and low pen. Even Smasher's HEAT can't easily pen Tiger II's and Obj 252U's.
median wagon
Object 252u can’t be op, similar tanks can do just as well
pallid arch
Even my is6's apcr cannot pen tiger 2 at all
pine falcon
@ornate spoke if you are running callibrated shells you pen even if tiger angles (I am talking about its prammo). That is unless the tiger is using the armor boost equipment but with the update, most heavy tank users are running the HP buff equipment
median wagon
Tiger 2 is op though, the lower plate needs to be nerfed
ornate spoke
@pine falcon a smart person always runs calibrated shells
pine falcon
Some tanks have enough pen that you don't really need calibrated tho
ornate spoke
ik
but the thing is bud, there are so much ppl who spam Tiger II's, Obj 252U's and Action X's. Do u think I'll still be able to survive there?
pine falcon
I don't play tier 8 like at all so I shouldn't be worried surviving there. I am speaking on a theoretical level. In a Peek-a-boo playstyle it can easily kill a tiger. If it is in the open, then the tiger wins
fallen mortar
275mm heat is pretty darn good pretty and probably better than most T8 med prammos
2nd it still has very good dpm and a 152mm he always does a good amount of damage
3rd the He kills lights and meds fairly easy if they accidently show thier side
median wagon
Never have I ever seen so many camping T92s, this tank has literally no skill
ornate spoke
yep
fleet sinew
Useless Sheridan spamming in rating battles. Please remove this OP Tank from this battle type.
median wagon
Remove missiles from ratings at least, its non competent and unfair
ornate spoke
complains. Adapt + Change. Otherwise you will never get used to this new “meta”. @median wagon @ornate spoke u guys understand it is spring and almost twister season correct? Once spring-twister begin, they won’t change t10 tanks as it screws all the teams. So if you all don’t want to adapt and deal with it for a few months, idk what to tell you. Ik it is overpowered, but there are ways to deal with it.
median wagon
So you’re the T92 user that camps I guess?
What’s with the insane spam of progetto 46 and t92... it’s annoyingly difficult
median wagon
Because dealing with a rocket that flies over cover is balanced?
zenith trellis
I play for the coins, but rating is the most boring gamemode in this game.
pine falcon
Most boring game mode for me is the shitty realistic mode
ornate spoke
Countins should not be allowed in ratings, even if they’re not rigging the games it’s still rigged.
median wagon
Realistic is the most boring thing made, how can people enjoy that
Yep, it’s basically platooning but with luck
ornate spoke
median wagon
This server must have a low population
ornate spoke
Both clans were doing countins and in the chat one of the players asked if they wanted to merge countins
keen bluff
how long does it last for
ornate spoke
Either may 30th or June 1st
The news says may 31st but may only last til 30th so...
median wagon
Hahahah
torpid walrus
def_e isnt connected to actual def clans
pallid arch
Only tank we are missing here is the is4
hazy bronze
Man got love missle tanks they be buff it have at least 500mm of pen with apcr and heat and be fast ebr like on pc. Also should have insane around like 1000m plus! Lol
Armour
median wagon
The spam of Maus and rocket tanks in tier X ratings is insane
It’s annoying having to deal with multiple maus while getting nuked by rockets...
hazy bronze
@median wagon yeah tier 10 spam nothing but missle and Maus since most strongest tier 10 tanks in game.
pallid arch
Tier 10 is well balanced
median wagon
And if I play tier 7, I’ll get bottom tiered if I play tier 8 I will meet the most annoying rocket tank, T92. So there is no bloody tier that works well
hazy bronze
@pallid arch not sure if joke are not can’t tell.
pallid arch
You can now pen the t92. And most of the good t92 spammers have switched to sheridan.
median wagon
Honestly it was so bad that I had to do the ultimate sin of all time, using the T92 myself
T92 is still op though
pallid arch
It was a joke (as I spam maus)
median wagon
Well it wasn’t a funny joke either
hazy bronze
I would spam in rating would be action x
native marten
I play T-62A but literally 4 Sheridans every game
There totally might just be a small correlation between literally seeing like 3 different tanks in a ratings battle constantly and those tanks being OP/really strong
hazy bronze
@native marten I know you feel because I would play m48 Patton during ratings.
median wagon
Good luck aiming for it when it’s as flat as a pancake, and when it’s moving
hazy bronze
Lol I seen this 50 percent player in rating around 5400 just he because he action x lol and also have seen bots in ratings too.
median wagon
There’s no point trying to hulldown in T-62A when ATGMs can negate your cover
pallid arch
With all of the OP tank spam in ratings, why is the kpz70 very common if it needs a buff?
hazy bronze
I would say if nerf the alpha of atgm tanks then would say more because more balanced and maybe nerf heat pen.
median wagon
HuHuH vErY fUnNy
pallid arch
I'm serious. They are all over the place.
median wagon
Launching missiles and hitting people when they don’t even have to see a glimpse of you
Kpf Pz is common in ratings because a lot of noobs play it there and doesn’t affects stats+plus the factor that they probably want the is-6 fearless
hazy bronze
Remove missle part and remove guns as whole just same 350 gun every tier 10 has boom solve.
median wagon
And just because of this reason, there should be a limit on who enters rating battles because silver players still get matched with platinum...
hazy bronze
I been match with people in bronze in rating while I was in 5k.
pallid arch
Ouch
hazy bronze
Dude I think it bot that was playing not real person because how he was
median wagon
Also is it true if you’re afk from rating battles for a few days you get put back in calibration?
hazy bronze
Bad
median wagon
Because of this, it’s making me aware and playing at least some matches per day
hazy bronze
Yeah good take nice steady
median wagon
Since I calibrated in platinum, I would have a goal of about 100-200 points per day until I reached a good point
hazy bronze
The really easy since lower you the higher chance of points to get.
leaden niche
Anyone can win in X rating? Impossible for me. Always lost. 5 lost, 2 win. Not for just today. Same on last 7 day...
carmine cedar
will we get the thunder tank after purchasing the premium pass?
leaden niche
@ornate spoke I have sheridan. But before this badluck. I was get 5k with just Grille.. but now. I win very hard with FV215B. Enemy team have +60% 2 or 3 player. Turn back to my team, Just me up 60wr.....
agile sphinx
It's perfectly possible to get to the top without playing broken tanks, it just makes it a lot more difficult. @ornate spoke
@leaden niche Maybe you just need to adapt your playstyle to better teammates or accept you can't go any further up the rankings 🤷♀️
leaden niche
@agile sphinx you just mean I can be noob. Yeah you may right. My WN8 is trash. I would prefer better WN8.
clear gust
When this facking rating battles end
agile sphinx
@leaden niche Just because you can win 1 game it doesn't mean you can play well against good players 🤦♀️
leaden niche
Show me 1 person who win with 6 loser, against 5 good player. @agile sphinx tell me why you trying to mean to me noob. Writing clan names to IGN isn't cool.
dim heron
Climb to 3900 in 100 battles and come down to 2900 in 20 battles warga5?
agile sphinx
@leaden niche If you think your team were losers and the reds were good players then you really need some help. At 4k rating you are barely getting into the actual good teams, and yet you are still complaining which makes it pretty obvious that you can't play well against good players.
And sorry did I personally insult you with my ign? I deeply apologise
leaden niche
@agile sphinx obviously you are a compeletly egoist.
dim heron
Fix your mm plz thanks
agile sphinx
@leaden niche It's amazing how that incorrect observation means you can't win in ratings
leaden niche
@agile sphinx keep kidding.
agile sphinx
Anyone can win in X rating? Impossible for me. Always lost. 5 lost, 2 win. Not for just today. Same on last 7 day...
@leaden niche
Idk what part you think I'm kidding about 🤷♀️
leaden niche
@leaden niche
Idk what part you think I'm kidding about 🤷♀️
@agile sphinx
Idk whag part you think I'm talking about 🤷🏽♂️
Look mate. Lets speak truth. I'm not playing rating usually. Last 7 day I played more than 50 game in rating with X tier. I was 4250, I fall. I hit 4K lose, 3k lose, 5k lose. What I've tried every gone lose. I do what I have to do but still lose. I move with team where they want again lose. I do just spot when I'm light for td's. Still lose. I go forward with heavy for my team stay alive but still lost. I tried everyway which let me win.
I mean, If I'm doing all of these and lose, there must be problem without me.
My record damage is in rating with Grille (Good old days).
@agile sphinx
Did you understand me now?
sonic sedge
@leaden niche Don’t worry, Honourless_7CD likes player bashing & it’s all the players fault that is telling it as it is...He must do this in battle too as he has 16 (yes 16) fresh ‘provocative communication negative thumbs’ on his profile...I rest my case!
minor meteor
Try more.
leaden niche
@sonic sedge oh. I'm not surprised. Thanks for info
agile sphinx
@leaden niche If you are losing then you aren't doing enough. You are not used to playing ratings and so you try to play the same was as you would in normal games, which doesn't work when you get up to vaguely respectable ratings. As always, if you are losing consistently, that is your fault.
Stevo here is part of the tin foil hat club because it's never his fault he loses at all. He can't even say what rating he thinks he should be able to get to and can never come up with anything to defend his points funnily enough.
@sonic sedge Half of those were from the same clan who didn't like me calling the out for rigging rating games, but as you said if someone can't learn how the game works after 80k games then I tell them. You have still never answered what rating you think you should be able to get to, and now is a perfect chance.
sonic sedge
As I mentioned ‘I rest my case’! And if ratings were actually rated on a true ‘personal rating’ (& not on the team you’re stuck with) then I would be up there!
ie. I have more kolobonov medals than you @agile sphinx yeah I’ve played way more battles than you, but if you accelerated your battles & kolobonov medals at the same rate I would still have more than you ,remembering supremacy is only a fairly recent addition to this game...So thats how well I play, I can hold my own battling against the last however many enemy players! 😎
I also see you like to snipe with your Wt or Grille the most, as thats what you’ve played most of your battles with!
agile sphinx
You don't think that 500 games is a large enough sample for teams to even out? Even after 30 games it's pretty even and you are telling me that the reason you are at 3.3k is because of teams??
If you are trying to imply that you are vaguely better than me because you can't play as a team and so end up in 1v3s more often then you are clueless. If you have more kolobonovs than aces then you are clearly not doing anything useful in the games you win by luck in a 1v3. You can't hold your own at all, you lose points playing the Foch when you are at 3k rating. Your tier 10 WR is 2% below average. You average damage is, err, let's just say interesting.
In case you couldn't tell by my 35 aces in the WT and the 21 in the grille I don't snipe in them I play them aggressive, and I do well.
fallen mortar
Stevo why dont you tell us what rating you think you should be at according to your personal rating xD
drifting cedar
Steve is just a meme in this channel
pine falcon
@sonic sedge kolobanovs mean nothing. As I said long ago, good players try to keep their team alive to help them. You just do whatever you want and that includes letting your team die for your own benefit.
And since you think you are so good because you have so many medals and battles, why don't we put you up against 60% ers players from well known clans with less medals and battles. You would get squished like a mosquito.
The fact that you can't get over 4K rating just proves that the moment you come up against similar skilled players on the enemy team and you have to carry your own team with less experienced player, you get stunned because you are so used to being carried.
And shaming people for playing their favorite tank (in his case WT or Grille) is just dumb.
Let me sum this up. More battles means more experience but does not mean more skill.
Some people just have a skull, thicker than a bowl of oatmeal. One of these people is stevo.
dim heron
@agile sphinx true. I see a guy from a 2eek go from 3k rating to 5k rating now and guess what he dies in 8 out of 10 battles in 15 sec lol
Littlary 5 lose 1 win for me no matter if i do 7k damage ir play however
median wagon
RIP stevo lol
restive dawn
Try a kolo without supre points
ornate spoke
What happened to “bonus credits” in ratings. With a league higher than silver you should be able to get extra credits. I think their should be a column in the credit section that shows the extra credits because I don’t feel like I’m getting extra.
hazy bronze
should not ratings battle end and reset now
drifting cedar
I bet they will go back to the 1 month seasons after this as it is kinda of an event
fallen mortar
the spring season is always a long season
hazy bronze
so these 2 months will determine who going be get is 6 fearless
or is going be longer than 2 months
restive dock
what time of day are rating battles available to play?
restive dock
thanks
granite owl
man, that sucks. Overlaps with my PUBG scrims 😦
restive dock
my tournament time for my wotb clan is 6pm, same time exactly my family eats dinner lmao
restive dawn
Gotta eat faster
ornate spoke
Anyone wanna answer my question as to why we are not getting extra credits in ratings?
twilit brook
I started ratings at 2800 and went up to 3800
native marten
I'm gonna be honest, ratings only give a glimpse into how well a player plays, I'm not saying "just ignore ratings" but I'd reckon like for example 3k-4k players tend to play around the same skill level and like 5k+ players usually play more or less the same level, that's not to say a 6k player plays as well and someone who just got to 5k but y'know their skill level is probably somewhat close
hazy bronze
to be honest the skill level is not really not major as 6 from 5k only major different is the how that time that person has and tanks he has
lime sparrow
When does last month’s season end
hazy bronze
So far no one the details of on how long it going last
fallen mortar
Till the end of May does nobody read the in-game news
crystal bay
There needs to be a rule for matchmaking
You can only play with people one league above/below your own
Calibration players will be placed as if they where gold.
This will keep people calibrating/unskilled out of diamond player’s games.
Less skilled players get to play with easier opponents
More skilled players must brawl with other skilled opponents.
Also allowing people with “valiant effort” to gain rating points as if it was a win, the same effect if the top player has twice the amount of damage as the second best player. Spotting/track damage will be halved and added to this.
The same thing should also happen if a first class or mastery badge is earned.
dawn raptor
@native marten ratings really doesn't have that much to do with skill. once you are at a certain level all it takes is spamming battles to get a high rating, and not higher skill
as an example, there's quite a few rgn players who are at gold
does that mean that they're only as good as 3-4k players? no, it just means they don't play enough in ratings and thus have a low rating
and added to the fact that some players can just spam tanks like smasher, wz 120, and t92 to get a high rating easily just means that ratings really isn't a good way to judge someone's skill at all
agile sphinx
@crystal bay You should never be able to gain points on a loss unless you can lose points on a win. Otherwise your rating will only go up and up unless you afk every game so the top players are decided by battle spamming. At the moment people are reaching the limit of their points because they barely gain or lose any points instead of because they aren't good enough to go further (apart from stevo but he's a special case ofc). That makes the top of ratings very unrepresentative of who is the best.
nimble rapids
till when are we able to play this season of rating battles?
glossy raptor
End of may
iron widget
I hate the mm in ratings
Even if i get 4k dmg,i lose the match because my team does little to no dmg at all
rain kraken
Please if you want missiles in rating battles, please remove map Mines from rating battles for tier 9-10 because of missiles (If you have 2 missile tanks in opponent team it is pure madness)
cursive geyser
It’s either sheridan takes all the dmg or they dies in 5 seconds and ruins the whole game for me as a heavy tank
median wagon
And why does this Kpf play ratings...
agile sphinx
Sounds almost as if you rely on other people 🤔 @cursive geyser
cursive geyser
Sounds as if this is team work based game
agile sphinx
And if you are relying on one member of you team then you aren't playing it right 🤷♀️
median wagon
It might as well be an individual game because 99% are noobs
pine falcon
@median wagon lmao. Get yeeted! KPF was like "Long live the king".
median wagon
It was hilarious but annoying
pine falcon
@ornate spoke Well I have killed a maus by ramming it in my bat chat. I lost like 1100 hp and died but I still found it funny. Just because you don't think its funny, doesn't mean others can't think it is.
bleak crest
-300 points in 1 hour. I’m done with ranked and when this virus thing is over also with the game. It’s just not fun anymore.
clear gust
When rating battles end?
restive dawn
In the end of the month?
clear gust
May?
restive dawn
News says so
normal garnet
Affirm
pallid arch
can we get that pinned?
pine falcon
Why should it be pinned? Its always available to bee deen in the game news. Also its not that difficult to remember simple date...
median wagon
Everyone too used to one month seasons
ornate spoke
Rating is beating the life out of me. I'm either going to come our of rating a true diamond league player, or i'll die trying
native marten
@dawn raptor honestly I feel like you can really just spam battles at nearly any rating and go up, especially high-silver/low gold (also anywhere else in gold really) because you get like 30 points on an okay battle and lose like 15 points on a loss so it doesn't really matter since even with like a 40% WR they'd still be getting more points than they lose
but yes good point
neat wind
News says so
bleak crest
Spamming battles doesn’t work long term because always something changes and hundreds of points are lost in a short period of time. Wargaming should try to explain why this happens.
cosmic cypress
Because you lost several matches
bleak crest
But why did I lose all of a sudden all matches?
median wagon
It happens, because mm is totally random
Plus, ratings is worser than regular matches because there is a ton more noobs, guess why? They want the is-6 fearless
bleak crest
It happened before too, so that can’t be the cause
median wagon
The only thing you can do is be patient and play another time, maybe you’ll get lucky this time
Also ratings is so toxic lol, got noobs coming to my DMs saying that I don’t deserve diamond league because I did low damage in 1 match. It’s quite funny reading their messages
bleak crest
That’s another thing, some noobs that actually prove to be noobs by their stats have higher rating. I would really want to know what they do
agile sphinx
I keep losing matches in ratings
It can't just be luck
What is the next common factor?
Of course its RIGGED MM, the system is broken it's not me playing badly 🤦♀️
You seem to be very good at blaming your own poor performance on anyone except yourself, and that doesn't help you get any better at all. Start accepting responsibility and then you will learn @bleak crest
bleak crest
Please don’t make me laugh, how can I get to a certain rating if I’m a bad player? Then lose 300 points in an hour? I didn’t notice great players or anything of the nature. I just had bad team mate on and on. All did below the reds. How can this be normal? Funny now nobody can explain this although it happens to a lot of players.
tired vault
I forgot it was two months rip
median wagon
Poor performance also affects ratings, if you perform better and it’s a loss, you will lose less points
Losing 300 points in an hour is your own liability for playing
We can’t win it all, we have to play with noobs because they have the same wants as us
tired vault
If you’re losing 300 points in an hour I don’t think you should be playing ratings
topaz orbit
if you lose 300 points in a hour i suggest delete game
median wagon
There should be ratings restrictions
It ain’t fair a silver league 40wr guy with 2k battles gets to play with diamond league players
There was 3 silver league players on my team while I was in platinum, it was a destined loss from the very start
median wagon
In ratings people are so angry omg, the DMs I get from them is funny as hell
topaz orbit
yeah same, they add me just so they can talk smack lol
median wagon
Some guy raged to me that he was in diamond and went down to 4.5k in a day
I smell 💩
bleak crest
@topaz orbit maybe you should mind your own business
median wagon
Isn’t it a public chat?
topaz orbit
lol u literally put this into a public channel not tagging anybody
median wagon
I guess you shouldn’t play on weekends as much, or at 9pm. Too many kids having their last match before bedtime
bleak crest
Probably that
I put it in this channel because it’s high time wargaming start giving some explanations related to what actually happens in ratings, @topaz orbit
median wagon
Ratings’s MM is hardly any different from regular MM, it’s all random and the teams are lopsided, I bet you don’t check the enemy stats after you win 7-0? Do you?
topaz orbit
keep in mind there are almost no real devs in this server, only community devs
agile sphinx
@bleak crest Maybe you got a lucky run to get up the ratings and now you are playing like normal you are going back down? Go get some actual stats instead of "my teammates were always worse" and then come back here. From the little I've seen of your performance you don't deserve to go up at all 🤷♀️
bleak crest
It’s not a problem my teammates were worse and I lost, the problem is it happens in a row and someone should investigate this. It’s not normal for ratings to get such games in a row. They rush and die like flies, that’s the problem and this should not happen at that rating.
echo flax
Guys, if I’m between 150-200th place then I’ll receive 30 parts, yes?
dim heron
When will they give out the camo?
glossy raptor
End of may
dim heron
I have seen several players with rating camo on.
glossy raptor
From earlier seasons 🙄
dim heron
I have camo from last year golden snake type. This is new one. But yeah may be its from old season
median wagon
lol this guy is literally 12/13
tired vault
Lmao
echo flax
XD
tired vault
I mean we all know it’s more battles=higher rank in diamond
Nothing has changed and it probably won’t for the time being
agile sphinx
@bleak crest There is one teammate in every single one of your games who's performance you control. Your behaviour in the battles I've been in has definitely been fly-like, and so by your logic you shouldn't be in ratings. It isn't your teammates it's you.
median wagon
Bruh so you’ve seen him in matches
pine falcon
@dim heron show me a pic of what cammo you are talking about
median wagon
Probably the ugly blue and yellow striped one
pine falcon
Uuum, which cammo is that supposed to be?
median wagon
This and last seasons diamond
pine falcon
ah, kk. When you mentioned blue I assumed light/semi-dark blue
undone vortex
Lmao wg broke the ratings my friend got his ratings resetted from 6.1k during the update all 14ppl crashed out of the game all 14 got their ratings resetted.
median wagon
Resetted?? Bruh
undone vortex
Ikr lmao legit from top 3 all the way to uncalibrated now he has to climb all the way back up
dim heron
the camo of very first season. @pine falcon
native marten
bruh moment
dim heron
@pine falcon@undone vortexlol really?
undone vortex
@dim heron lol I'm srs wait lemme find the pics
pine falcon
? I am confused
dim heron
May be new calibration for new seasons also if once a person reach at 5k rating and he stops playing rating further does his rating goes away in a week or two or stays?
undone vortex
Before reset
After reset everything gone this was like 1-2 days after he got resetted
Also look at this legit I went to my clan to check the rating and it placed them at the top
pine falcon
The system before the seasonal system was if you didn't play for a certain number of days your rating got reset. That system was scrapped and in its place was put the seasonal one. The fact that his rating was reset was most likely a bug.
undone vortex
And the bug hasn't been fixed after several days + both my clanmates sent a ticket
And yes I have identified this as a bug apparently they fixed the one for the amt of coins you gain per rating battle but not this
median wagon
Im so glad that the old system of recalibration was removed
lime sparrow
Are the rating's camo permanent
median wagon
Correct
lime sparrow
Sweet, just got into plat a few days back, maybe I can get halfwap up to diamond
median wagon
Stop spamming that in every single channel
lime sparrow
I agree
dim heron
How many camos can we get? For 4 tanks having 50 battles?
worldly anvil
yes
dim heron
All right thank you
bleak crest
@agile sphinx So with my meager rating right now, 800 points below max this season I’m still top 10% and I’m not supposed to be in ratings. Who should then actually be there? The problem I have with team mates is they dint hold the line, they drive all over the place. Heavies chase meds, their heavies get our TDs and stuff of that nature. It’s not what it’s supposed to be but instead it’s a slug fest based on rng. Just horrific.
median wagon
Are you a unicum player?
agile sphinx
As said before anyone can get high in ratings by spamming battles unless you do absolutely awful. The issue from what I've seen is that the teammates don't do what you want them to do, and that isn't a bad thing necessarily. You expect everyone else to play around you letting you farm the damage but you don't and that isn't a good way to play ratings at all. Play as a team and work to the teams strengths instead of expecting everyone to follow what you want. @bleak crest
bleak crest
I'm not saying they should work around d me but they should know their place in battle. And it can be that some tanks farm better than others but it they run around in heavies after lighter tanks and we lose 0-7 it's a problem. And if anyone can get high in ratings it's another problem for Wargaming. I've been a platinum player for half a year now. If I should stop playing, who actually should be?
agile sphinx
Their place isn't necessarily what you think their place should be. The last battle I remember you being in you raged at the meds for not crossing the river in port bay when the reds had a stronger setup for holding the corner. It's pretty obvious that the points system isn't right because it needs to be harsher and punish doing badly. As a wild guess at who should be, generally it tends to be people who can get more than 2 shots in when playing a 50b 🤷♀️
pine falcon
I like the rating system in PC. When your team wins: the top players get 2 chevron, the last people don't get a chevron and the middle people get a single chevron. When you lose: the top player gets a chevron, a couple players under him don't get nor lose a chevron and the rest of the team loses a chevron. Lights and Meds get rewarded for the more assisted damage they have, heavies for damage blocked and TDs for damage dealt. I would like to see a simular to it in blitz.
high arch
The last game I met cancracker in he called the enemy “lucky ******” for winning, its never his doing, either MM, luck or teammates not doing what they need to do
median wagon
Bruh
bleak crest
So I get 2 shots in max 50b in all games, right @agile sphinx ? Obviously you weren’t around when I had 3-4K damage games, but those don’t count. Which game was that and what was the setup? Cause if they had more meds it’s was stupid to go riverside in the first place.
When a Sheridan bounces with the rear an AMX AP shell, I call that lucky, @high arch
quick coral
I would like someone to explain to me, rating points, so we won here and rico had 1 shot, and he got only - 11, on the other hand when i lose it is - 20 for solid game, - 40 for one shots, also most of my games are scored 0:7 or 7:0, is this that so called balance?????
pallid sentinel
Legit tired of climbing diamond like 200-300 ratings only to lose it in like 5-10 games with these horrible teams
pine falcon
@quick coral the more points you have the less points you lose on a defeat and the less points you gain on a loss. The less points you have the more you lose on a defeat and the more you gain on a win
Rico has 5.3k points therefore he loses less points but he also gains less points.
quick coral
Ok, thank you for answer m8
pine falcon
This mechanic is implemented so people don't get to crazy scores similar to 9K or something like that
crimson berry
I want to play rating but i am not 70% unicum and i can not play 1 v 6 every game, Idk what to with such a bad teams..
Any advice guys? Hey crnaovca :)
You can check me on blitz stars if u want as well
mellow flower
Keep spamming battles and endure the losses
bleak crest
That doesn’t work for me. All I gain in a week is lost in just a few hours. It’s unbelievable and wargaming’s explanations are long due
undone vortex
If you can lose so much it's definitely not just the teams fault
mellow flower
If you keep losing take a break, if you’re frustrated you usually do stuff you won’t do if you have a clear mind
agile sphinx
@bleak crest From the looks of how you are playing and what rating you are at I wouldn't be too surprised if you couldn't reach 1.5k average damage in ratings at all, but as I thought I made clear I haven't seen all of your games. I can't remember exactly what the setup was but I remember you were silent throughout the whole game until you died and then you started raging at the "noob" meds who wouldn't have been able to save you. And if you think going city with a team of mostly meds on port bay against a decent red team is a good idea then we have perfectly found out what sort of player shouldn't be in ratings.
A couple of days ago I had an absolutely awful 39% WR in one day over 41 games. I lost around 25 points. Yes I am at a much higher rating that you but even if you attempted to work out what that would be like at the lower ratings where it's easier to win it wouldn't be anywhere near what you are claiming happened to you. If you are losing that many points you are not playing even half decently.
The exact stats:
41 games at 39.02% WR with average damage of 1953.8 lost me 24 points
The next day 16 games at 50% WR with average damage of 2073.0 gained me 22 points.
Over 2 days with a WR of 42% and average damage of 1987.3 I lose exactly 2 points. That isn't a good WR and that isn't good average damage, but there's still no huge 100 point loss streak.
It isn't the system that is wrong, it's how you are playing
dim heron
4 lose in a row
sonic sedge
Reading up, funny how the scoring system is different on pc. to blitz! Perhaps it needs to be more like that so it reflects ones true efforts instead of that of the ‘team’ as whole, that would be more fair & democratic instead of the system that is in place!
Think I’ve played just 4-5 ratings battles in nearly a week this time, twice with the grille (birthday tank) one loss, second a win then two with the black prince for a mission, both won, and thats it again for a while again.
I have the IS6 & free camouflage to spare ☺️
pine falcon
democratic? I don't think that fits well in the sentence.
bleak crest
@agile sphinx When did I say to go city with a team of mostly meds? It’s quite the opposite. So if we had more meds and they didn’t take the river corner obviously I was entitled to show my dissatisfaction with their actions. Clearly that’s why we lost. Port bay is that kind of map where positions need to be taken early otherwise it’s an uphill struggle. By the way, I made the points back almost to platinum again. So how is that possible? Obviously we have a difference of opinion based on the situations we experience. Till 11 CET all went fine, then all hell broke loose again. BCs yoloing into the enemy cap, 3100 - 3200 avg games, things of that nature. Something is not as it should be with ratings and I think it probably has to do with PC players.
bleak crest
This is how a recipe for disaster looks
keen moonBOT
haris2007(ASIA)#3581 has been warned.
dim heron
Lagg
agile sphinx
@bleak crest We did not have more meds but you still cried after you died because they didn't take the corner. It was easily winnable if heavies (with their nice hp buff to make them easy to play) could actually manage a 1:1 damage ratio instead of dying on less than 1 clip of damage.
If you are a PC player then the problem you are facing is definitely PC players but one specific one, and if you aren't a PC player then the issue isn't them.
Funnily enough you are trying to find something else to blame. You are responsible for your performance. You are responsible for your rating. You cannot blame other people because you play badly at low ratings.
worldly anvil
oof
pine falcon
I just want to say this: Once over 5050 the point system becomes fairly consistent. If you do zero damage you lose 15 points max (yes I tested this both by accident and on purpose) and when you win with 2.5Kdmg you get around 15 points depends on what else you do.
lime tinsel
Everyone, please look at this idiotic replay from ratings yesterday. I'm not going to blame the drivers of the tanks, but these rockets are RUINING the game. We went freaking AB on Oasis Palms, and what happened? Two rocket tanks on each team just spammed rockets over the hills. Nobody did anything else. Nobody pushed up. Everybody just sat behind the hills. The first four kills were ALL due to rocket tanks. Their ability to freaking shoot over hills and loop shells around to the SIDES of tanks is breaking all the concepts this game stood for. There is literally no reason you should be defending the concept of shooting from behind hard cover.
And it's just SO MUCH FUN to get double tapped for 1000 damage by two Sheridans from behind a hill while you can do NOTHING. In tourneys too, these things are stupid, because they can bleed tanks from behind cover. This is taking the game in the WRONG direction, and will just create even more passive play.
median wagon
When you got hit by the 183, then double tapped by the Sheridan’s. I felt that
high arch
Either more passive play are yolo rushes. Had players rush them to use their DPM advantage but then getting slaughtered because there are more enemies than just the sheridans 🤦♀️
lime tinsel
@median wagon yeah after that 183 hit I got shot by an E5 one time. That was the only time after that I was not shot at by missiles
median wagon
lol that was awful
lime tinsel
literal nightmare man
median wagon
It’s a huge part of the reason I edge away from tier X ratings
lime tinsel
and it's a huge part of the reason why I'm grabbing the IS-6 Fearless first season and getting the F out
median wagon
Did you play rocket tanks too?
worldly anvil
ratings is just chaos and op tanks, its stupid rn
it went from t92e1 spam to sheridan and hull down spam
the thing is, sheridans pretty much negate hull down, so there's even more sheri spam
dim heron
I am never climbing 5k with 5 lose and 1 win
I saw atleast 5 guys with 40 win rate and 5500 rating lol funny
bleak crest
@agile sphinx I don’t know if I remember right but didn’t the meds say we should go left? Then they did not attempt to take the corner... that’s was the problem. About doing damage it’s really hard to tell by one game. I did 4K damage in 4K games and a few hundred in a 3k game. Why? Because the team died, they weren’t set up right, they didn’t push and so on.
The point system is truly an unknown @pine falcon as I have 4 games in a row with 2.7k damage and the points are all over the place. Loss as low tier I got -20 while as top tier just -11. Probably it’s more dependent on the position in the team by damage. I also got 0 points as top damage. So I have no idea what going on. Today I got back to 3950 then back to 3700 now back again. It’s just hilarious.
pine falcon
@bleak crest ... you are currently in very high gold. In that rating points on a way can go up to about 55 points. So yeah you can basically get twice as many points as in diamond. That makes it way harder to monitor and make deductions. In diamond you usually get between 0-25 for a normal win making it way easier to keep track and get similar results in similar battles.
median wagon
In diamond highest points I got for a win was 19
pine falcon
I think I have gotten 27 but that was for a sheridan ace.
median wagon
Action X+ratings=guaranteed diamond
How is that tank fair at all...
worldly anvil
mk1 is worse, its just a more mobile autoloader action x
median wagon
Action X’s armour though
lime tinsel
@median wagon I've played nothing but tier X and only played one round in the Sheridan and 5 rounds at tier 8
pine falcon
MK1 has an excellent turret. AX has a sometime uncomfortable cupola
median wagon
I honestly hate having to fight action x and mk1
worldly anvil
now they're even more op since people stopped spamming t92e1s
median wagon
What a loss from the very start...
So having all the OP tanks corralled in one team, ok
tired vault
Doesn’t mean you can’t carry
median wagon
Fair enough but this match was extremely lopsided
worldly anvil
bruh a 59 patton in ratings, i barely see that tank in pubs
near pewter
@median wagon you can’t play stock tanks in ratings
median wagon
Oh nvm, I thought they were stock tanks lol
median wagon
If you want the bare minimum of 10 parts, then stay
dim heron
But what if i come down
I think i am thankful for 5k rating enough and i have the is6 legend already. Am not falling for the mere skin only.
lime tinsel
@dim heron it's not just a mere skin it's a whole different tank. You will get an entire IS-6 Fearless, not just a skin unlock
dim heron
Okay. May be after the season is over. I am not taking chances. Have seen friends and people go from 5500 to 41pp
4000
median wagon
Then they’re terrible
sacred verge
Lost a battle despite the AMX was really kind and yoloed instantly. And we still lost 7v6....
But wait, there's more!
Ratings is just a matter of luck and RNG. Tons of Unicums are at 4k + and they are placed randomly. I even got "TheLeftNutFromTheNorth" on my team. Still lost.
median wagon
Ofc, and people spam OP tanks to get high
bleak crest
It’s impossible to play with the current teams, lots of people lose one battle after the other, no hits and no pen.
pine falcon
@bleak crest I wonder how I am a 58%er, you are a 60%er yet I manage to get 5K which means that it should be possible for you
bleak crest
A friend of mine has always been in diamond and he’s losing on the trot now, now he’s in high gold too. There’s something seriously wrong going on as he can’t win 3 battles for the mission...
pine falcon
@bleak crest one of my clanmates is currently has these statistics. He has played 722 battles this season and won only 381. about 53% wr. Yet he still has 6.1K rating....
It all depends on your own performance, not the teams
Also credit goes to Angelo, its his account I am looking at
another example: Lorenzo. 883 battles played 443 won. about 50% victory. Yet he is at 6K
bleak crest
Maybe he plays at the right times during the day and has the right approach to this mode. I camped in IS3D and gained a lot of points back but it's not the style of play I want.
pine falcon
So you camped in T54 the battle we met on Normandy and now you say you camped in IS3Def? What is wrong with you....
I think I am starting to see the issue
median wagon
The teams deteriorated his mind
pine falcon
IS3Def is the best armored IS-series tank in in its tier, unless we count the 252u. And yet we decide to go on a nice camping trip among the bushes of oasis palms
median wagon
Worst time of the day to play is probably 9pm, kids having their last bedtime match
scarlet fox
What a loss from the very start...
@median wagon that could well be, but then please have the balls to either show your name too or blur all player names
@pine falcon yeah but those guys LoveRNG 😉
pine falcon
true, true. Out moto is "We trust in RNG" soooo we are relying on luck. All luck no skill gang
median wagon
@scarlet fox alright I’ll do that next time then
ornate spoke
so sad to see the state of T X rating battles at the moment, 2 Sheridans on each team seems to be the rule, and if not there are some T 92's there, missiles flying all over the place , make ranked battles just disgusting to play
pallid arch
Tier 8 is mostly safe. The t92 spammers mostly switched to Sheridan spamming after the nerf.
median wagon
T92 spammers are still abundant
mellow flower
I just saw Vova, #2 NA leaderboard player, get 2 low rolls from a T54e1 before finishing him off, (mind you vova had 550 hp), I swear sometimes I wanna believe theres a secret "Rig rng" transaction or something because he got too lucky that time lol
worldly anvil
nah, he's just really skilled in the amx proto
mellow flower
I need to learn his methods :0
covert temple
Vova gets the most bs rng I swear
lime sparrow
IS3Def is the best armored IS-series tank in in its tier, unless we count the 252u I thought the IS-5 was better armored than the Defender
unique olive
nah
mellow flower
Yeah I'm taking a break ratings is pissing me off these couple days
pine falcon
@lime sparrow oops. Meant "one of the best...". My bad sorry. IS5 has better frontal armor while IS3def has better side armor
bleak crest
Well, it gave me the points back, @pine falcon . That’s why I keep repeating it’s something wrong with this mode. Before, I went in front and got no support. Nobody pushed and I was overwhelmed. Got very few points on wins and lost a lot on losses. Now, it seems this camping tactic works at least around the rating I’m in at the moment. So what should I do? Not exploit it even if it gets results?
pine falcon
exploit it if you want, I don't care, its your choice. But looking for a teammates perspective, the fact that you are camping in a heavy/medium is just... dumb. As I said, camp in your heavy, but then don't complain when others camp in a non-td
Also here is a little something you wrote
agile sphinx
@bleak crest Well I think you have just shown yourself what players shouldn't be in ratings, and that includes you. If you aren't competent enough do gain points at 3-4k rating without camping then you really shouldn't be in ratings. What you should do is learn to actually do something useful and help the team, but don't practice in ratings.
And that's a nice little quote there, I bet there's plenty more but one does the job well enough 🤷♀️
bleak crest
I'm top 6% in ratings, @agile sphinx . Who should be then in ratings?
pine falcon
I have refrained from posting this message for a long time but it is time. I've been a long time member in Rollings discord and have seen same amazing players talking about rating and their thoughts on it. They discuss and complain, but they do it to an extent. There is a certain line they don't cross. Meanwhile you are not even close to their level, yet you complain many many many times more than they do. You crossed the acceptable line a long time ago, just like stevo. You just don't want to get the message through your thick skull, that 2/3 of all rating criteria depends on you: your own performance + how many battles you play. So mate, here is a word of wisdom: just walk away.
agile sphinx
@bleak crest The other people who don't camp (especially in things like meds and heavies), manage actual recent damage and don't come here to cry about not doing well. The other people actually deserve to be there not some camper who pretends he is vaguely decent.
bleak crest
You guys just contradict yourself with any post you write. Now that I say I found a way around it's not ok. Which other people do you mean @agile sphinx ? The 90% below me in ratings? Do you have any idea what you are saying there? It's just ridiculous.
agile sphinx
@bleak crest You are the one who complained about people who "camp the whole game near spawn and provide no help" and that describes you pretty damn well, so it's you thats contradicting themselves.
You realise that most people literally just calibrate and don't even try at all, and any games after calibration are just for missions. If you think being able to reach the amazing heights of 3.8k rating with 900 battles makes you anywhere entitled you are completely wrong.
You aren't suited for rating.
pine falcon
@bleak crest lets track back a bit to yesterday with your first mention about you camping and getting points. You are in a heavy and you say you camp. Here is my issue with that: if you have found a loophole in camping, why not use a TD with a better gun, stealthier etc. TDs are far better suited for camping than an IS3 Defender or T54. This is why I think its dumb. Instead of camping in a TD we camp in a heavy, which is clearly supposed to be frontline, and we camp in probably the second best tier 9 med.
Also as @agile sphinx said, most people play rating just calibrate and play for the daily mission, which I really want removed.
bleak crest
There's a thing about how points are awarded @pine falcon . Probably this is why it's more effective to camp in heavies. That's why there are 50% wr E100 campers in the diamond league.
agile sphinx
@bleak crest It's not more effective to camp in heavies and anyone with half a brain realises that. That's why they don't spend 1000 games and are still lower than good players calibrate at in 10 games.
If you cannot play without camping then you shouldn't be in ratings. If you can't even camp well then you need to learn a lot instead of crying about your teammates
pine falcon
I want you to prove your idea: Why camping in heavies is more effective?
bleak crest
Be cause you do more damage than in the front line. You last longer with bad teams. You don't get rushed. I've lost too many battles when I got rushed and nobody moved to help. They all stood there and got killed in the end. Sure they didn't lose as much as I did but still. And they were solid platinum league players. Unfortunately that is the situation and I understand why the ratings are played in this way. Obviously the points system is wrong and it's being exploited. Now I exploit it too.
high arch
Allow me to say that mr cancracker has been blaming MM for his losses and has spammed the EU forums in the past about rigged MM. I’ve told him back then that a skillbased MM wouldn’t work well in blitz and ratings pretty much show that, it’s far from the “balanced teams” some games can offer in their ranked mode. But anyway, blaming everything but himself is what he had been doing for years now and it’s pointless to try and show him what the hard truth may be. He doesn’t get it
pine falcon
"Now I exploit it too". Lmao mate you still bellow 4K. And again, my issue is this: why not use a TD to camp??? Instead you use a heavy?!?! If you use a TD you wouldn't be thought of as so dumb
bleak crest
@winters its not that I dont have a high enough rating I'm complaining abouy. It's the up and down 800 point rollercoaster
pine falcon
Its time to ask the question stevo couldn't answer. What rating do you think you deserve?
agile sphinx
Points aren't based on damage they are based on xp. Camping doesn't let you do anything useful and doesn't help your team, so you will lose more. You ever thought that maybe it's all your fault for being in a stupid position because you can't play instead of your teams fault for not rushing to help a stupid player? The points system is wrong but it's sure as hell not what you think, and 1k games and under 4k rating really isn't exploiting anything is it?
bleak crest
Apparently for the same number of points more damage is required from TDs
agile sphinx
That isn't an answer to the important question, what rating do you think you deserve?
high arch
A TD camps and gets less XP and needs to do more damage to get the same amount of xp
pine falcon
^^^ precisely. You need to compensate in damage for the fact that you don't spot for yourself.
Also IS3Def is a frontline tank: deal 1200 dmg then use your TDs to scare the enemies away. The tank has incredibly troll armor that shouldn't go to waste either
bleak crest
Either way, this has nothing to do with my rating but with the whole concept. It's far from perfect with fundamental flaws
pine falcon
you are the one who brought the topic up by mentioning you got points camping in a heavy therefore it was regarding your rating
agile sphinx
You haven't been complaining about the system you have been complaining about your rating and blaming it on the system, but again that's still not an answer to what rating you think you should have @bleak crest
pine falcon
Im out of this stupid discussion when nothing is getting to your brain
bleak crest
Neither is in yours. I've been complaining about the fluctuating rating within a high spread and the totally illogical allocation of points that favors certain behaviors. I'm perfectly happy to stay at any rating and meet players of that rating in balanced teams. This is what rating battles should provide.
agile sphinx
All you have been crying about is teammates and lose streaks. If you don't care what rating you are at then you shouldn't care that your lose streaks are putting you to the right place because you can't play well at all. The points aren't illogical at all, it's literally the same system for everyone. The teams are balanced, you are just way out of your league and so lose a lot. Ratings provide exactly what you want, but only for players with half a brain and who can play slightly well.
bleak crest
And then I win a lot too. Never crossed your mind, did it? And again I'm top 10%. What about the rest?
agile sphinx
Hahahaha ofc you win a lot that's why you aren't over 4k after 1k games lol.
As anyone apart from an idiot would remember, I have already explained this. Most people only calibrate and then do nothing. The fact that you think being in the top 10% means anything at all is laughable. Even getting to 4k means absolutely nothing and you can't even do that.
You still haven't said what rating you think you should be at
bleak crest
I was in platinum for the last 6 months so spare your condescending attitude. The fact that not all accounts play ratings is not my problem. On top 10% of what's out there. Obviously being top 1% at blitz also means nothing.
agile sphinx
You deserve every bit of condescending attitude, getting to 5k just means you can spam battles but apparently now you can't even do that well. The fact that you are trying to pretend you are almost competent by saying that you are top 10% is the problem because that's clearly a lie. Being top 1% doesn't really mean that much either, but it's still out of your reach apparently.
undone vortex
Ratings mm is fine it's basically just slightly better than random mm at higher ratings and slightly worse at lower ratings cause salt farm
rugged pulsar
@undone vortex yes but still noobs just buy a tier 8 and roll inn to ratings and even dont know how to play so mm in rating is slightly better but u still face noobs
undone vortex
@rugged pulsar i mean it's randomize mm also just play tier X then
dim heron
5008 rating. Should i go more?
marsh abyss
if u need coins (event coins) yes🤣
sonic sedge
When one of your teams tier 8 heavies is afk (tier 7-8) & the tier 7 heavy scores zero & you get the highest score with your tier 7 but because of all the above, your points go down too...brilliant system of scoring 🙄
worldly anvil
its based on base xp? if you lose points its your fault, usually
sonic sedge
@worldly anvil yeah that logic ‘it’s your fault,usually’, really makes sense by what I actually mentioned in the sentence! 🤦♂️ Are you for real! Did you take anything into account of the facts?
worldly anvil
@sonic sedge how do you think people manage 70% wr? by doing the best they can, no matter what. If they win, its usually their fault for winning. If they lose, they lose going down with a fight. If you do double you hp, you should win most of your games. Just because you're a tier lower doesn't mean you get to chillax with how you play. If you lose points, its because you didn't do enough. You can gain points even when losing. You can gain points every single battle. Just play better. it's your fault if you lose points, not the team's.
sonic sedge
It’s the teams when one of our top heavies goes afk!
worldly anvil
Farm off their hp
sonic sedge
As I mentioned I got the highest score...with the lower tier..anyway, won the three ratings battles challenge, thats it again ‘til the next one 🤣 The screen shot was of the next battle...Of course I won it for the team....it’s all me me me 😂😂😂 (I am joking by the way).
worldly anvil
breh
bleak crest
I was in another brilliant game in ratings. We were 2 tanks against 1 on that part of the map. I had half hp left while the other was full hp. Nobody wanted to take a shot and rush the enemy tank so in the end I had to do it and we killed that one. Then the remaking 2 reds rush and killed me while my team mate was still full hp. Of course he lost against the other 2. Platinum league, player of course and got more points. Clearly team play is not rewarded in ratings as it should and people wonder about selfish play.
high arch
Your asking for teamplay in ratings? Won’t happen, no communication
native marten
Believe it or not, you can get team play. You just need to ask. Say something like “rush [tank]” or “u first”, takes like 5 seconds to type, and I’ve made this work from people all the way from silver to people in platinum. Are they guaranteed to listen? No, they don’t have to listen to your calls, but if they do and you’re making the right calls, then you’ve just increased your chances of winning
dim heron
Just completed the mission od 3 loses in a row
high arch
Yes it can happen, but don’t expect it to happen and don’t get frustrated if it doesn’t happen
pine falcon
If stevo and cancracked really want teamplay, get into a good clan and do tournaments. Its so easy... stop complaining.
median wagon
99% of players are trash anyway
sonic sedge
There is no ‘team play’ no matter what you type if some team members are from another region that don’t understand english! Even if you use arrows <<>> sometimes also which can be confusing if you’re starting form a different position to them.
ornate spoke
Players confuse not listening to bad directions as "no team play".
bleak crest
I'm happy to see they give directions and follow the plan but that rarely happens. And of course it's only my fault.
agile sphinx
@sonic sedge If they are ignoring you then chances are they are good players. There are plenty of people who play as a team and listen.
For instance not too long ago I had a team (~4.6k average) who listened to my call of going A on yamato harbour despite having a team of meds. They weren't exactly easily convinced but they listened and we won 🤷♀️
The point is you aren't at a rating where you will see good players and that's what you deserve.
@bleak crest It's your fault when you rage at people who did the right thing while playing badly yourself.
sonic sedge
Canny, yes, specially when they yolo & then start the profanities in english & you think ‘ oh they understood me anyway’! 🤦♂️😂😂
@agile sphinx No it’s usually because of the fact I stated!
restive dawn
idk but i think my team works well together
agile sphinx
Then they are doing the right thing anyway 🤷♀️ I think everyone will agree that you aren't suited to leading the team and so I don't know why you try to @sonic sedge
sonic sedge
No one ‘listens’ either, as you can not ‘hear’ only read directions!
restive dawn
you trying to lead a team in randoms?
sonic sedge
@restive dawn yeah impossible sometimes
restive dawn
why on earth would anyone try to lead a team in randoms?
sonic sedge
ratings..Anything to help
restive dawn
arent they the same since the players are the same in both modes?
sonic sedge
yes
agile sphinx
@sonic sedge Again why would listening to you be a good idea?
@restive dawn I lead teams in randoms, I think a small chunk of my WR came from figuring out actual tactics that the average player can handle without knowing they are doing anything
sonic sedge
You know they’re not going to understand anything anyone types when they start typing in russian 😬
restive dawn
my wr gets bigger if i start leading a team in randoms?
sonic sedge
@agile sphinx you’re not for real & are just trolling..👋 blocked
worldly anvil
thats just avoiding a debate
sonic sedge
There’s no debate with them, they just like to player bash ALL the time!
agile sphinx
@restive dawn That's what I found, generally one group works better and leading a team gets one group more often. Obviously you can't expect anything even slightly intelligent but if you chose things right you can get teams into better positions they wouldn't have seen or used before 🤷♀️
@worldly anvil Stop trolling me or I'll block you smh
@sonic sedge There's plenty of debate, just not when you refuse to accept facts 🤷♀️ I suggest opening your mind before trying to complain about others
worldly anvil
oof
ornate spoke
Strange how some players do well and others don't in the same environment. Those who do well are those are able to react and capitalize off of the positioning of their team. Those who don't demand that their team positions themselves in a certain way. It is a matter of improvisation and flexibility. You either have it or you don't. Blaming the team for not doing what you need to them to do is still ultimately a you issue. Being flexible enough to accommodate the decisions that both your team and the red team make is the key to being successful.
agile sphinx
^ As a fairly unflexible player myself I tend to lead the team to get them into positions where I can do better myself instead of working off different positions. For instance I think I've only ever gone CB (or is it AB?) on hellas two or three times and I don't regret that at all. The people who are flexible are more skillful than me, I just try to use every advantage I can and it works pretty well
ornate spoke
Yeah you pretty much are.@median wagon
cosmic cypress
My team brrrr is trash brrrr they suck brrrrr I’m good why I lose rigged rigged rigged
pallid arch
I love the players that say that at the beginning of a match, and then intentionally yolo.
keen moonBOT
N.Z.#1459 has been warned.
dim heron
I like the yolo players with 6200 rating.Gg
And those who play careful all game lose 5 and win 1 . So technically rating goes 100 down and 20 up. Gg
bleak crest
Saw another bunch of 4-5k rating players below 50% wr. They were great team mates and clearly deserve their rating.
muted shuttle
@bleak crest Good job mate
3800 rating and being put in the diamond league while doing one clip
🙂
tough skiff
Where to report a clan that thinks that rating battles are some kind of tournaments?
7 players from the same clan in one rating battle none of them were in a platoon
@fallen mortar My bad
It is abusing mm, you have no guarantee that they will be on other team
On that note, I had 3 player, enemies had 4; 2 my teammates from that clan did <600 dmg on t10, the all went the same way as if they were training some tactics
fallen mortar
Big brain time when you think you can toon in ratings 🤣
There is nothing wrong with 7 dudes from one clan in a team if the MMker puts them this way only if they rig in a way that the other ones don't shoot back
median wagon
Bruh that is annoying, because it can change the outcome of the game massively
bleak crest
Players below a certain rating should not play some maps like Middleburg, Port Bay and Rockfield as they split the team.
muted shuttle
@bleak crest You are the last person who should say something about others
pine falcon
players bellow 5K shouldn't make those decisions. (and chill I am just joking and presenting how idiotic it sounds)
bleak crest
PC players should not be mixed with touch players if same control mode is active. That's not hard to do.
worldly anvil
i mean, do you realise how long queue times can get up to
bleak crest
Probably but it's not ok when all pc players are in one team.
worldly anvil
how do you know theyre all pc?
high arch
He is all knowing
pine falcon
^^^ he is God
mossy badger
LMAO
high arch
No, god wished he was him*
bleak crest
By how they move and shoot. They have autoaim that doesn't glitch, manual zoom, better control while moving. This is not balanced.
pine falcon
I would say mobile is easier to control your movement....
mossy badger
I play both modes and mobile has better aim on the move.
You can only snap shot with pc while moving or use auto aim but both are not flexible
Basically mobile gives you that sticky aim assist but pc gives you even more awareness
agile sphinx
@bleak crest You mean you're seen someone better than you and assumed they are using a PC? 😂
fallen mortar
there is people that suck on mobile and there is people that suck on PC and then there are the ones that suck no matter what they play on, for me i cant play on mobile i just suck to hard when trying to play there xD
pine falcon
@agile sphinx well he doesn't just assume, he knows. Cancracker is almighty and as winters said God wishes to be him
worldly anvil
i play both mobile and pc, and i can see mobile is much slower paced, but you benefit from that. You hit your shots, you look around you (because you've got nothing better to do), while pc you rely too much on reactions and snapshots..
:v
mossy badger
^^^^^
dim heron
Hi. Just completed my 3 in row lose mission.
Okay just completed 5 lose a row mission gg and those too to MISSLE tanks. Gg
pallid arch
Let's be honest here, the real reason why mobile is bad is because fingers start to sweat when you are trying to clutch.
dim heron
Missle tanks go up. Real tanks go down in rating
pallid arch
I was climbing just fine in my fcm 50 t@dim heron
dim heron
I went to 5200 rating and then 6 lose in row brought me back to 5170. Only 30 points deducted because I played well all battles
agile sphinx
@dim heron The M103, 30b and 131b push me up well enough 🤷♀️
median wagon
How many parts of the is-6 fearless are awarded per place in Asia? It doesn’t display it in the information tab
dim heron
Tank doesn't matter as long team is good with you.
agile sphinx
Missle tanks go up. Real tanks go down in rating
@haris2007(ASIA)#3581
🤔
median wagon
I got up a lot with my powercrept Type 59
median wagon
I meant this chart, what is it for Asia
pallid arch
SEA?
mossy badger
South East Asia.....?
median wagon
I never knew SEA was Asia server, I did a big dumb
Bruh it’s so high to get 30 parts in NA and Asia
ornate spoke
Rating and damage omg guys! World record?
mossy badger
?
ornate spoke
3937 rating and 3937 damage
drifting cedar
Ohhh
mossy badger
o what the
neat slate
Your xp gained was kinda close to matching it too lol
ornate spoke
Yea lmao
drifting cedar
I was way off when i first saw the picture and the text
median wagon
I saw someone once posted a screenshot of 3 guys doing the same damage
ornate spoke
Lol
pallid arch
Weak, I have seen 7 0s on a team.
dim heron
Lol its really hard to get any certificates other than only 10.
Because 20 certificates for those who are at 50th place. Unfair
median wagon
Hahaha, well it is the is-6 fearless. Don’t expect to be handed it easily
dim heron
Well they handing it out to 500th player at ru and eu region. Why so tough on asia? Just because less player base or high? I dont understand
median wagon
Your player base is higher
fallen mortar
there is probably more people playing ranked on EU than on Asia playing normal mode
median wagon
I thought Asia has the largest player base
dawn beacon
By far the biggest player base has RU. Also they aren’t giving the is6-fearless to 500 players on EU or RU. I would guess that there will be aprox 100-150 is6 given out through out all regions
cursive geyser
Some high rating players are so greed they will camp in ht or mts and farm dmg from back, this rating system should change to pc ranked
median wagon
How do you think they went up then
lime sparrow
Why don’t you camp then lmao. If it’s so easy to farm, then go get a 4k+ rating
bleak crest
You need to camp in heavies. The points yield is much higher than in TDS for the same damage. It’s an exploit of the poorly thought system they employ.
pine falcon
prove it by getting to 5K like that
worldly anvil
if you camp in any heavy, ur no better than that maus in dead rail's td bush
native marten
I mean you can reach 5k camping in a heavy with enough battles, but seriously please don't be that dude who ruins everyone's gameplay kthxbye
mossy badger
Nah once ur at mid 5k everyone rotates so much that if you camp you get absolutely neutered by the other team
native marten
I guarantee you it's possible, you're just gonna need a lot more battles than everyone else to do it
full berry
What do you guys think?
native marten
cool
lime sparrow
Currently at 4.4k in ratings. Should I try to go to 5k?
sacred verge
10/100, and you'll never get any more :I
I got 1 part for T-32-3 and 10 parts for T-32. Never gotten anymore since that time.
bleak crest
Not going to happen as long as the program me & 40% we vs 50-60% wr is running, @pine falcon
pine falcon
aren't you a 60% - a player who should be the one carrying the team?
coral gust
Anyone knows how much points in rating in EU is top 10? I know its sth like 6300 but exaxtly?
glossy raptor
bleak crest
I do 3k damage then the bunch you call a team is dead and the reds rush me. Happy tanking 🤣
pine falcon
just stop complaining. You are throwing away the little dignity you have left.
undone vortex
@bleak crest what rating are you even at
pine falcon
@undone vortex his current rating is 3642
undone vortex
Wait so he can't climb out of gold and is using teams as an excuse bruh moment man
pine falcon
precisely. He blames everyone but himself
fallen mortar
Seems like the stevo flu can infect others O.o
pallid arch
I can't get past 6029. I have hit 6029 5 separate times, but have never been able to pass it. mM MuSt Be RiGgEd.
agile sphinx
@undone vortex Even better than his ratings, he is close to hitting 1k games and he loses points at tier 10 🤷♀️
coral gust
I can't get past 6029. I have hit 6029 5 separate times, but have never been able to pass it. mM MuSt Be RiGgEd.
@pallid arch Are you EU? What place are you? Asking because im 5353 and idk how much i have to win to have top 100 for the is6 fearless
agile sphinx
I think 100th place is probably around 5450-5500 ratings, I'm at 5611 and 76th so that's my best guess @coral gust
pallid arch
I'm on NA, currently 14th
coral gust
ok so i will just do like 80th place this month, next 120 anf i get is6 yay
agile sphinx
That is assuming they keep the same distribution of fearless parts but that seems fairly likely
Actually it's assuming you can get fearless parts next month at all 🤷♀️
pine falcon
@agile sphinx from Ribble:
Will the parts for the IS6 Fearless certificate be available from now on, for every rating season, or is it just for this season and the next?
@R_sevik21 #RemoveATGM it will last longer than this season and next one, don't worry. There will be enough time to get the tank if you can get to the diamond league.
maybe not next month but it will be available in the future
ornate spoke
hey, is it true that my rating can get reset before the end of the season if I don't play a certain amount of games per period of time ?
pine falcon
no
there was a bug in the update that resets some asia server players rating. Don't know if it has been fixed or not
ornate spoke
@pine falcon Thank You !
ornate spoke
🤣
bleak crest
I don’t care about rating anymore @pine falcon . I play just to grind tanks like spic and Emil
ornate spoke
I love st. Emil and RHM.B.WT
pine falcon
@bleak crest so if you don't care, don't complain. So just shut up
bleak crest
And your problem is, @pine falcon ?
pine falcon
@bleak crest the fact that you complain
bleak crest
That shouldn't be your problem at all
agile sphinx
@bleak crest It's everyones problem when you out your pointless and factually incorrect rants on a public channel. Keep them to yourself.
high arch
It’s just that you lost every bit of credibility you had by not listening and only blaming others instead of you. Your word won’t be taken seriously even if it happens to be something you are right about. I’d have suggested having a different attitude but I know that won’t change so just deal with the fact that people dislike you for you just in essence talking BS.
PS don’t rage in games where you threw btw doesn’t help whatever your case might be. Try and set personal goals like 2.5k avg damage or whatever is possible for you and above what you do now and go from there.
dim heron
5197-18
-18
It doesn't matter if i am at 5400 rating or only 5000 rating because the reward is 10 parts of is6 anyway.
keen moonBOT
Máté Boldizsár#0360 has been warned.
muted shuttle
@dim heron Say it to my ex 6000 rating 😄
dim heron
-14
At 5k i get 5 point fpr winning and -18 -14 for losing
Yummy rating gown down just like someone gf.
median wagon
L M A O
dim heron
Am just getting the 200 wins and then am outta here.
median wagon
You’d end up in bronze league at this rate
ornate spoke
Haha
dim heron
Kindly fix the lagg in rating battles. Thank you
@median wagon I dont think so i will go to bronze. Need 4 more win and i will stay at 5k except wargaming gives me mission of winning 3 battles in rating and blah blah
https://media.tenor.com/images/5fa8ba9593451a400013f2c343dfaed5/tenor.gif
median wagon
Lol
dim heron
@undone vortex man this ex parabellum guy is the best i just saw him get to top 3 again. Wow just wow. I am a fan
mossy badger
I thought oh ok I’m at 5.3k ima just get to 5.7k how hard could it be
I lost my sanity
dim heron
@mossy badger I can relate.
bleak crest
Supremacy and pc players need to be turned off in ratings
pine falcon
lmao. Shut up, no one cares about your opinion since you said you don't care about ratings
go disturb the news discussion section
bleak crest
Nobody asked you anything. Bye
pine falcon
You were the first to say something and no one asked for that
worldly anvil
🤔
agile sphinx
I love people who post (stupid) opinions on public and well used discord servers and then expect no response 👍
lime sparrow
"WAHHH MY RATING BAD"
"Wait, why are y'all responding? I don't even care about what y'all say!"
"omg you won't understand! It's not me! It's my teams!"
tall berry
xd
undone vortex
@dim heron lol that dude legit tryhard so badly
dim heron
@undone vortex salute. I have seen him in several gameplay with me. He is aggressive and tryhard as you say. I am already a fan.
lime sparrow
i smell cap
median wagon
Lol rip
dim heron
@lime sparrow sorry?
pallid arch
Why aren't you going up on any of those losses?
dim heron
tender mason
bleak crest
5k players in ratings that have 40-50% win rate in random are usually PC players. That's why they need to be removed from the touch queue.
native marten
is this the next step in increasing the queue times
high arch
Next up is all people with a device that’s cheaper than 400 euro since they lag too much and go afk
median wagon
Well gaming isn’t a cheap hobby is it?
lime sparrow
I'm a mobile gamer 😎
and I'm dropping rating points reallly badly
native marten
lmao I haven't touched ratings for a while
pine falcon
I haven't touched rating in a while too. Has been about an hour and a half or so
worldly anvil
lmao
dim heron
5100 thats it unless wargaming gives me mission.
median wagon
Good luck on the other 9 seasons lmao
worldly anvil
🥳
lime sparrow
Well i droped like 100 pnts. ANd I dropped a bunch of credits. Playing TIER X for ratings is not economical :((
worldly anvil
playing tier x generally is not economical
lime sparrow
It's barely profitable when I don't use any provisions or premium rnds
pallid arch
laughs in mk6
quartz aspen
Just bots. All bots. These ‘players’ are absolute morons
mellow flower
Ouch I just lost 100 ratings that hurt
ornate shale
I see no problem with mm
mellow flower
Wait till you get to diamond
lime sparrow
or just above 4k.
I got paired with alot of 3k and below. Usually i'm fine with that until I see our Tiger II going left all by himself and the T49 is trying to become a sniper
undone vortex
Smh wait till 6k
bleak crest
At 4200 I got teams that dropped me almost 800 points. And those weren’t 5k games...
worldly anvil
y u still playing then
native marten
okay not gonna lie, dropping 800 points sounds like a you problem
bleak crest
It sounds like the matchmaking patent
agile sphinx
I think everyone will agree that averaging a max of 1123 dmg at tier 7 (assuming you haven't played the bulldog before in ratings) and then 1761 dmg at tier 10 (again assuming 50b hasn't been played before) is not the teams fault. You are barely managing a 1:1 damage ratio and you expect to go up? You have already gone up 1k points with your awful 50% WR and 1k games in ratings but you think you should be getting more than that?
Oh wait I forgot you don't care do you? @bleak crest
high arch
It sounds like frustration makes u play worse
golden vigil
Is the S P I C a good tank
worldly anvil
its a very sneaky tank that gets bullied very often, but has nice guns @golden vigil
ima get diamond league camo on sp1c next season >_>
worldly anvil
big rip
golden vigil
@worldly anvil Thanks
dim heron
Someone told me that the lagg in rating battles is on purpose. Is it true?
worldly anvil
no lmao
why would wg ever do that
boreal valley
cry
pine falcon
haris, stop. You are getting the stevo syndrome
drifting cedar
Seems like we have a steve v 2.0 on this channel
Haris stop before you become a steve v 3.0
glossy raptor
Hes a guy who only complains about bad mm
pine falcon
the chain is like this stevo -> cancracker -> (still missing)
dim heron
Okay imma stop complain. I dont want to be him. I am ME
pallid arch
Set the new standard for blaming anyone except yourself.
dim heron
I bad in rating. I play very bad in rating. I always let my team down. I am so bad at this game i should quit.
worldly anvil
play more carefully, and remember theyre not nubs they have some clue what theyre doing
pine falcon
@dim heron I am personally fine with people complaining as long as you don't cross a fine line. I am fine with you saying "Gosh, today sucks. I lost 150 points" as you aren't pointing finger. Stevo and cracker were like why are teams so bad when I camp in a heavy and we lose or why do I do so little damage when I yolo in.
median wagon
helth
ornate spoke
Sb. Know how much credits i get if i have the 4k Ranked camo already in t10?
median zenith
I think 50k credits maybe
ornate spoke
Only? Wtf
worldly anvil
Its 250,000 credits compensation @ornate spoke
ornate spoke
Ah thx @worldly anvil
lime sparrow
ratings starts in 2 minutes ooo lala
scenic oasis
I think rated battles should have the same properties as the realistic battle Type. It makes the game so much more immersive and exciting. I would be very fun to have the option to play this mode indefinaly, it takes a lot more skill and understanding of the tanks weakpoints, map control and tank size. Less hand holding and more immersive gameplay!
bleak crest
Yes, but then PC players need to be turned off by the same control mode setting
worldly anvil
can you stop complaining about pc, its part of the game, deal with it
scenic oasis
I do agree that PC has advantages in this game mode FOR SURE