This is probably the core problem of Mines.
There're discussions about improving Mines a while back in this channel.
#maps-discussion
real steeple
dense pollen
Mines has a little something for everyone. It rewards spotting if you have TD’s - and rewards good turret tanks. It’s only boring when teams decided to opt for attrition over mobility. 3 or + TD’s on a side and it’s awful.
keen hare
LOL. It rewards tds way too much. TDs get both soft and hard cover. Take a map like castilla and you dont have soft cover to fall behind
And it allows easy relocation within the camping spots to cover another angle. Eg swtich from lighthouse to town
hollow canopy
the only reason Mines isn't the worst map in the game is because Dynasty's Pearle exists
amber ridge
facts
frosty verge
The Chinese oriented maps suck, except for vineyards
weak shadow
@HisRoyalObeseity#9648 don't tag people unnecesarily
bright mist
Had to spamm it to every channel tho
amber ridge
he gone
fervent summit
BrInG bAcK tHe RaIsEd MaPs Wg
buoyant ledge
@gloomy sand Agreed,the west side shown is also better when you go towards the far flank towards the other bridge. There you can hull down / spot easier than from the other side.
celest cape
Oops wrong channel, but make Vineyards more endurable
weak shadow
@fervent summit please take a good look at the maps that were recently introduced That's all pretty varied in terms of height
nocturne mortar
Anyone else feel that dead rail needs a small tweak?
I feel it rewards spawn camping too much
The other camping spots are balenced but the spawn is just a night club for 183s
weak shadow
I feel it's pretty OK. Yes, there will be spawn campers, but it's a near guarantee and you will know the spots
Canal and Castilla have similar issues, and maybe even a bit bigger
nocturne mortar
Imo canal's and castilla's camping spots are a bit more balenced as you cant see too much space without putting yourself directly in the line of fire
With dead rail there is lots of cover and you can see the most common places people will come from while not putting yourself at too much risk
nocturne mortar
But its quite difficult to get a shot in if they dont, without giving yourself away
wild thicket
Canal is just flat out unfun to play in slow tanks
hollow canopy
the Dynasty Pearl can be fixed by altering it dramatically
Mines can't be fixed. It needs to be removed.
slate tundra
I think mines is a kinda "for fun" map to take a break from serious tactics and just play in a small map I'm not disagreeing or agreeing
hollow canopy
it's like the new maps. You hope your team isn't terribrad and that's all you can do most of the time. I lik olde Mines better
knotty quartzBOT
Комуха#7802 has been warned.
quaint bay
Lol
quaint bay
Ouch
copper hearth
Castilla to have a rework? been like... 5 years i think
eternal tiger
I don't think Castilla needs a rework, maybe a graphics overhaul?
amber ridge
make the hill more raised
potent goblet
We've actually discussed and pisted some ideas how mines could be improved. Posted some screen shots but basically added some side ramps to better access the center hill. Also carved a flanking route from spawn to spawn along city side to allow for meds to get to enemy Tds easier should they choose
I'll find the pic
Red spots are new ramp locations. Blue is the flank route
We also talked about maybe raising u parts of the hill to give more cover
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I like Castilla for the most part. It's a big map with spots and routes for everyone. There are some really good snipe spots but they take a while to get to so there is a risk to using them. There are a few spots that could benefit from a mild tweak. Add another ramp/entry point to allow it easier to access the center city. Mainly the rocks in the water near the spawn where the windmillis on your right (spread them out a tad more). The other point is opposite side halfway between the current points to wnter the city.
amber ridge
that's pretty impressive
real steeple
It would force the TDs to choose between covering either hill entrances, thus breaking their current domination from a single camping spot.
lime kettle
Anyone else hate Dynasty’s Pearl with a burning passion?
hollow canopy
ye definitely
But Castilla is my favorite map. It doesn't need any changing. Castilla and Mirage are the best maps in the game
I don't think Faust is brad but every time I get that map, my team either doesn't move or I somehow lose two allies before I even get the chance to fire my gun
real steeple
I'd say Naval Frontier is best map
potent goblet
I struggle on Frontier, I'm just still awkward on it.
Faust looks like a really good FPS map
sterile tartan
I would love Faust In like battlefield but I'm not so sure about my feelings about it on blitz
meager lintel
So is there a chance that they could implement a mini map with 12 sectors, so 4x4 size map. I think it would be easier for some people to tell their players where to go in tournaments. @austere lark told me how pramo does that and I agree that you wont use it that often, but still if someone is not on discord to tell them to which ridge to go or which house to go, making the sectors smaller on the mini map might help
austere lark
Sometimes people are muted or our caller is already talking etc and we pull just ping the map for someone
It’s also helpful in normal games or comp to ping a sector and have people train guns in that general direction
When people pay attention the focus fire can get down right ridiculous
I watched a bat chat get killed for full health within a second of being spotted by four tanks from across the map because they were looking in the right direction
eternal tiger
There should be a marker on the minimap that shows where a target was last spotted, like on the PC version
austere lark
2 bats and 2 268s were at a on canal and killed an enemy bat at d cap
That situational awareness is huge within this game
@eternal tiger you could argue for adding tank names to the minimal icons as well
eternal tiger
Absolutely
obtuse narwhal
when supremacy mode in Mines???
compact cobalt
Honestly there is little point in having supremacy on mines in the state it is now. First off, there isnt much space in mines. Second it would be near impossible to actually capture any bases that would be by lighthouse or town as mines has an issue with the td balance in the map i.e tds being able to cover effectively from spawn. Plus, there is little space and opportunity for flanking
dire cloak
Thats tru. Im always getting picked from the opposite sides of map
They should enlarge maps so u dont get spotted as easily at higher tiers
agile epoch
true cause at higher tiers even in tds like the wt auf pz iv i get spotted by some light tank that is way more then halfway across the map
hollow canopy
they are making maps more smol. The reason I liked Mirage and still like Castilla is that they are quite brig enough
quaint bay
Normandy is where D-Day happened
hollow canopy
Two congested and short range maps. Don’t be deliberately obtuse. Also don’t @ me.
slate tundra
Spacious and Large are two different things? Also nothing wrong with @ except spam?
honest plaza
I like Normandy cause of the ways the battle can go completely sideways
quaint bay
well these two maps are prob the biggest in terms of gameplay
castilla is quite similar; watch the dam hills bc there will be every game at least one TD and one light or medium and camp the whole game ignoring their team and being the egomaniac. and then we have the hvy lane like always with tds camping behind and waiting and two meds on church falling into river
flint jewel
@hollow canopy mirage is probably one of the worst maps imo
It's only at low tiers for a reason
cerulean knoll
Oasis palms is imbalanced, especially for supremacy. TDs have a much easier time denying a large portion of desert area as opposed to the other spawn.
neon lark
clearly.
hollow canopy
Maps (like Mirage) that offer an important (thought not critical) vantage point that has some risk associated with it, offer long range fighting ability but also defilade in the 'medium' side (without becoming overly built up), and a large size are the ideal map. That is why Mirage is the ideal map for this game
low estuary
oh... for me Mirage is a horrible map, but make sense the thing you saied
lament widget
Copperfield and fort despair should be removed, moreso Copperfield. Same with dynasty
potent shore
i like Mirage tbh
copper hearth
The problem for Mirage is how the camo blends in, you wear a Bright, Peach colored camo and you to to the waterfall, it just doesn't match,
chilly ibex
I forgot Mirage existed because I play so many high tiers 😂
hollow canopy
I never disliked Copperfield
Or olde Rockfield
Faust wouldn’t be brad if ppl could figure it out and move somewhere
copper hearth
Old Copperfield Best Copperfield
cerulean knoll
I can’t believe such a stupid decision was made on vineyards. The small bushes got in the way of vision, people asked for them to be removed. Not only were they NOT removed, but they are now SOLID OBJECTS AND BLOCK HE. Wonderful decision.
barren sluice
Hi
hollow canopy
Not the worst thing ever. A lot of times you would get boned out of a cap while the other team got theirs for free. Now vinyards is a little less random.
Snot lik you had to rely on the caps anyhow. I only miss it being at night
brazen pine
@copper hearth Bright peach color camo doesn't really go with any map for that matter
oak junco
wait the grape things on vineyards block HE now?
quaint bay
Yes, they do.
oak junco
wow
quaint bay
Also HEAT
foggy widget
They did an operation on..... No, no...
river canopy
Honestly, the map I hate the most is Middleburg
All the fighting gets funneled into a narrow strip; just frontal shot trading, no thinking involved
quaint bay
Dynasty is same but worse even
quaint bay
Laughs in Himmelsdorf and mines
real steeple
Funneled into a narrow strip?
Mines
quaint bay
@river canopyThats the kind the porsche tiger likes the most
Long 88 and allot of frontal armour
Yes I enjoy ur suffering
river canopy
Mines is a good map; sure the initial play is always for the hill, but the amount of options you have for the mid game are far more numerous than other maps
Also, on Dynasty, at least the whole map is usable, which gives some flanking/rotation opportunities
austere lark
Except dynasty is far too clustered
Most of the map is unusable space with a few pockets where people get funneled into
A cap, the steps and the hills. That’s not good map design
neon lark
^exactly
quaint bay
I hate Himmelsdorf more than any other map in the game.
neon lark
Tbh yea
quick mirage
Himmelsdorf is the worst
proven raptor
I think it’s one of the better maps for heavies
oak shore
It is a Heavy-oriented map.
Most of the areas you can fight in are in enclosed spaces aka corridors. The trainline, the D cap and the likes. The center square is almost never used due to the high amount of crossfire potential.
proven raptor
Going out in the center square is like asking to be shot
oak shore
It’s a bad map for most vehicles, but I wouldn’t consider it to be my worst map in Blitz...
proven raptor
I hate playing canal in a heavy
Cause I’m way too slow to get to cover in my Maus anywhere but the buildings in the middle
oak shore
Too much crossfire, isn’t it?
It’s more suited to any tank other than HTs
Faust is awesome IMO, but some of the pipes there must be rearranged though
fresh quest
Plenty of cover in canal for maus. Go to B-C area
Canal and death rails are one of the best maps there is in blitz
Himmelsdorf iand Forth despair are also good but looks a bit dull to me
Dynasty map needs to be reworked because there are big spaces in it that are hardly used in battle
But in all maps, put the seasons in. Canal in winter time or forth despair in spring time or mayan ruins in monsoon time. That would really be awesome. The maps will still be the same but in other color. This way it wouldn’t be so dull anymore.
stiff smelt
I think dynasty Pearl needs to change
chilly ibex
It needs more protection at B
kind vigil
Hmmm... debatable.
fresh quest
B is fine in dynasty map
quaint bay
A And C are problems
*The map is a problem
fresh quest
but tanks without gun depression struggle there
austere lark
Yes. The town is very unfair for tanks without gun depression
quaint bay
Don't forget mines it's hell for any tank that is Russian I've been yelled at several times "go hill Is3 /is8/is5 nub , report Is3 , nub no help you no win you get report"
And if I do go up hill on mines I get a warming welcome form all the tanks on the other side
quaint bay
🎮🎮🎮🎮
iron monolith
What does it say that even the largest maps in Blitz are still smaller than the smallest PC map...
austere lark
It says that blitz is confined to the limitations of mobile devices? @iron monolith
iron monolith
Not when mobile devices are much more powerful both in terms of available memory size and in processing speed than when Blitz was released back in 2014~
Personally what I think it says is that WG is too afraid to try doing something genuinely new with Blitz, like making much larger maps or modes that allow for more than just 7v7 play.
potent goblet
WG knows not everyone has the latest phones. Upgrading to too high of requirements boots people out of the game. They aren't agraid to go higher, they're smart enough not to. Especially when they have games available for those who want larger teams and maps
austere lark
So people on iPhone 5’s on 30 FPS can handle bigger maps?
Ignorance 101
Wg is maximizing their player base ($$$)
neon lark
ye
real steeple
Lmao
kind vigil
On other maps...In Yamato harbor, I denied a kill for the enemy by jumpin in the harbor
potent goblet
I killed somebody by crushijg their hopes and dreams. They went to drive off the front of the ship, but i shot them right as they did it so they lost all momentum. They fell short and got pinned front facing down towards the water where they slowly slide down once their track repaired itself.
hardy crown
@kind vigil
enemy cant kill you if you die first
taps head
kind vigil
Thats not against the rules right?
wooden brook
That's absolutely disgusting @kind vigil
You denied other people aces or very good battles and you are proud of it.. GJ
potent shore
i hate when people kill themselves
quaint bay
I sometimes do it unintentionally
copper hearth
@potent shore ????
mental mauve
KV-2's when they shoot the wall their gun is touching and the others who commit fall in water
haughty notch
I think they should add some more maps like a Berlin map or a kursk map or paris. Maybe even a Vietnam map
desert badge
Make a big map that has lots of fronts like in pc and make it that more people or in battle and this will be my fivorite game
kind vigil
How would a map full of bushes, as in no space is without bush cover, work?
eternal tiger
@kind vigil Vietnam Simulator 2019
kind vigil
Heavy Tank PTSD inducer?
vital hearth
give us a legendary camo for the mighty King Tiger
dire cloak
They shouls hav a game mode for people who want to play in slightly bigger teams
And enlargw some maps slightly. I hate getting detected from behind double bushes
compact cobalt
Splitting the playerbase with further isnt a good idea. Especially as the mode you suggested requires more people than usual.
vital hearth
bigger maps means different meta. fast tanks with good camo rate are far better around there. the same light tanks in wotb, are in wotpc but with less hp (while all other tanks have more
hps than in wotb) and uptiered.
void marsh
I have issues with the Normandy map
honest plaza
I love Normandy, if only cause it is a stratigical nightmare of a map, making it easy for the battle to quickly flop into one favor or another XD
potent goblet
With the landscape was brighter. It lacks contrast making it difficult for me to see terrain
honest plaza
That's the thing I like about it though. I have my screen brightness down alot anyway, and play on potato mode to save both ping and battery. This map gives me no trouble with sight issues, but not trying to trash you Sir Hickory
potent goblet
I'm colorblind, Normandy isn't very colorblind friendly
honest plaza
Ah. I take it red/green, due to the dark green that composses the map on Normandy?
potent goblet
Yes
honest plaza
People have tried petitioning WG to include a Colorblind mode, but I'm not sure how it turned out...
potent goblet
That would be nice if they did. Currently Normandy is the only one i have trouble with.
small vault
@hollow canopy nice pic, ill take that. Thx ;)
And i agree with you on the nam theme
unborn mortar
I cant remember the names of the maps :)
hollow canopy
I don't know half the names because I pleh the game with Korean voices
I'd like to just turn off voices entirely but Korean isn't as annoying and repetitive, plus he's very curt
tawny basin
barren sluice
Wow cool🥵
viral sentinel
FlOaTiNg TaNk!
honest plaza
BOAT TANK... Boat Tank... boat tank... booooooat tank
viral sentinel
I remembered "TOG II" Lmao
kind vigil
What map is that?
honest plaza
Discount Manhattan what?
compact cobalt
wHeReS tHe AvEnGeRs ToWeR
eternal tiger
Lmao
honest plaza
But seriously, this map looks good for close quarters medium fights.
slender wedge
It's called Townville.
honest plaza
...They need to fire whoever came up with that name.
slender wedge
It's the new Die Nasty Pearl!
small vault
Townville :D cityburg
potent goblet
Welcome to the City of Town-village.
slender wedge
The noobies win. No more "go hills!"
oak junco
remove the hill on middleburg pls
sterile tartan
That would be great
kind vigil
Imagine if they added the Hill part in Himmelsdorf
kind vigil
Ok so, can we all gather round and tell suicide points for tank?
quaint bay
City life in blitz can now be a thing with that map
fresh quest
Add hill on the opposite side of middleburgh too. This way TDs may/can cross fire too.
tall mortar
Himmelsdorf
lament widget
@austere lark I play it on both mobile and PC.
slender wedge
@fresh quest smh
kind vigil
We need the hill part of Himmelsdorf
fresh quest
smh?.
honest plaza
Shaking My Head @fresh quest
fresh quest
Thanks.. @slender wedge dont shake it so hard, you'll get brain dmg.
slender wedge
@fresh quest can't possibly get worse than what I got from reading that.
fresh quest
it is just an good idea to get 2 hills on middleburg, there will be 3 ways to search. they are either in town or in the hills. now they are either in town or all on the hill..
fresh quest
himmelsdorf doenst have hills on wotb, idk about wot
slender wedge
The last thing we need is more camping positions in this game.
fresh quest
a good td playeer doesnt camp
fresh quest
extend the borders on copperfielf, add some trees and bushes, a few hills for hull down play and some rocks and houses. Than top tiers can play copperfield more often/ too. Many ppl like to lpay this map
rockfield needs a change too. most of the times they all go to where C-cap is.
honest plaza
All the maps need both reworking and tweaks in my opinion...
fresh quest
the old rockfield was better and looked prettier
Canal is the best map and needs no changes
kind vigil
I love sniping in Canal
Yamato Harbor... needs a few tweaks. Maybe better cover near the ship or something else
honest plaza
To support the meta of the Heavies facing off across the deck of the Yamoto? Make it so there are slightly elevated places behind the engagement zone so that the heavies don't just have the other heavies to worry about, but also TD's supporting from behind on the second line
hollow canopy
Copperfield is not brad but indeed could be twice as brig. Make it have a yellow haze from nuclear fallout too
karmic dagger
Copperfield is terrible and nothing can change my mind. Mind you, this opinion is taken from having to deal with that map on tier 8 tourneys before it was taken out of the roster.
quaint bay
"loves sniping in canals" 😂
glossy pollen
Any new maps in 5.8?
potent goblet
Castilla and Canals are fine for the most part.
Copperfield is... copperfield is best when it's low tier only.
neon lark
^
quaint bay
@glossy pollen not in 5.8, but 5.9 might bring a new urban map that we only know by its codename "Forge City"
oak shore
This is what I think the meta on that map would be:
Red: Spawn Points
Blue: Meds and Lights brawl there, or gun depression spots for the American Heavies
White: For those Russian and German heavies to duke it out there
I could see that the railyard/overpass would be a pretty contentious area in the meta
real steeple
You forgot the top right for swimming purposes
oak shore
Wonder what’s the park in the southwestern corner for?
dire cloak
Camping playerz
oak shore
Don’t see any places that that place can overlook though.
It’s smack bang in the middle of the city with limited to no firing lanes into the northeastern area
I believe it’s more useful for the Brits and the Americans to use it as a hulldown area
quaint bay
I don’t want more city maps, look at the mess Dynasty Pearl is
real steeple
Imo plays the same as Himmelsdorf
quaint bay
It is even worse
quaint bay
No TD kemp
quaint bay
Please no more city maps.
We need more maps like Vineyards and Normandy.
neon lark
^
haughty notch
I want an el halluf map
eternal tiger
I want a Berlin map
eager tide
I want a Yorkshire map
quaint bay
I want no Mines Map
neon lark
I want a russian medium domination map o wait that's like every single one lmao
hollow canopy
I want no Mines Map
odd grove
I want a map with 2 hights. Maybe roads that go up and down with two plates to play at
potent shore
@quaint bay ** Vineyards
that map is horribly balanced
North Spawn is much harder
quaint bay
I don’t like how small proximity maps make people think it’s ok to face hug. Somebody does it to me almost every other game and it’s annoying
quaint bay
@potent shore if you have a good scout working the ridges near base it seems like either side is workable.
celest cape
Make Yamato Harbor include less of those annoying wood box stacks...
supple coral
Why?
quaint bay
Normandy is good but vineyards is absolutely unplayable, cities on both sides and the center is mostly open and easy to fire at. Vineyards leads to campfests
potent goblet
You should check out diablos Type 62 video. He slaughters in center field on vineyards using the hills as cover while he does it.
quaint bay
The enemies must be stupid or something
You should check « the most non-lethal battle in WoTB », I don’t remember from which youtuber but here’s the problem of vineyards.
quaint bay
I stand by what I said. Vineyards is one of my favorite maps in the game.
fresh quest
I hate vineyards from the moment it was introduced to the game
They beter make a Stalingrad or Leningrad map
real steeple
Red Square map
Yes yes
dire cloak
Or a minsk based map in wot pc
real steeple
A map with WG HQ in the centre
Yes yes
nocturne mortar
Noone would shoot each other, they would just fire HE in the windows tokill the staff @real steeple
real steeple
- WG employee looks out the window
- Sees fourteen FV215(b) 183s aiming at him
nocturne mortar
- Decides that actually maybe it is time for free premium tank at tier 10 for everyone
quaint bay
- Unicorns complain about « noobs in tier 10 »
nocturne mortar
- WG nerfs prem
- Unicuns complain about nerf
quaint bay
- WG buffs prem
- Unicorns complain about buff and power creeping tech tree
nocturne mortar
- WG gives up, resets all stats and makes every player start from tier 1 again, with no purchases from beforehand
austere lark
quaint bay
- Unicums call the game s**t but still play it everyday
austere lark
nocturne mortar
Technically it was origannly based on maps but it kinda got out of hand...
austere lark
quaint bay
Rework Vineyards
austere lark
What part?
quaint bay
The whole map
austere lark
Why?
quaint bay
The whole design is basically a bad idea. Cities on both sides, unusable space at center, lead to camping and trench fight
nocturne mortar
Centre is fine for hulldown with lots of depression
quaint bay
Needs really lot of depression, even 10 degrees can struggle sometimes
nocturne mortar
It encourages long range fights but spotting is also relatively easy because the hill provides cover
quaint bay
Plus it only works 1 side of the map
nocturne mortar
It needs a lot of depression but people dont expect attack from there normally
quaint bay
Usually they don’t even fight there
nocturne mortar
Which makes it even more of a surprise
quaint bay
Nope because they’re just behind buildings, at the other side of the map
nocturne mortar
Theres still a good chance that some are peeking out, trying to shoot your teammates
opal pike
I think every tank should have decreased view range by 10% so the small maps can be opened up
marsh river
Vineyards is not my favorite map, but it is up there
oak shore
The cap position is suprisingly good for tanks like the Lowe on Vineyards. Love that spot
You need at least -8° of gun depression to work the tank there.
austere lark
Vineyards is fine as a map. Good players find ways to maximize their tanks. Bad players act like headless chickens and get nuked in the open
Also is4s, is7s and Russian mediums can al work over encounter if careful
quaint bay
If by « finding ways to maximize their tanks » you mean camping then right but dynamic gameplay would be better
quaint bay
More usable space. Reward more gun depression and hulldown tactics. Reward less camping
oak shore
There are plenty of spots where hulldown can be useful, if you play your cards right
quaint bay
Can we not have the snipe across the map maps it just makes me think I should probably delete the game it’s boring like thta
Literally I see E100s in the spawn sniping and gettting 4k
M E H
nocturne mortar
It isnt really a camping map, because most people get spotted very easily, so its more long range firefights than camping
quaint bay
Same thing tbh
How autocorrect change tbh into RNG?!
nocturne mortar
And when spotted you have to move, and it need tactics and skill to win
quaint bay
It rewards more camping than skill
nocturne mortar
Not really, it rewards accurate shooting over long range, while positionsing yourself to bounce
quaint bay
This advantages heavies and TDs over LTs and MTS
nocturne mortar
Lights are there to spot near the middle, peek when the reds have shot when the heavies have taken the hits and maybe flank as well
austere lark
@quaint bay I think only bad players camp on vineyards
Good players are usually working a middle position or constantly moving
compact cobalt
^ any good players i encounter on the map are usually working along mid and harassing my team
quaint bay
When I go middle if I’m not in a light or heavy I’d die instantly
On those kinds of maps
oak shore
If you’re a TD, that’s a stupid play.
It’s workable with mediums too
austere lark
Anything with a turret can work if you’re smart
oak shore
Ok, forgot about certain turreted TDs lol
austere lark
It’s meant for mediums and heavies with frontal turret armor
quaint bay
The problem is that campers can get the same results as « good players »
If you think the space in the middle of Vineyards is unusable you are playing the map wrong.
I don’t think so
Not every map needs to be 3 corridors. I'd welcome more maps with usable terrain features like vineyards.
Look at Normandy. This is usable space. Vineyards is nowhere as good as that
I disagree. I can work the middle of Vineyards all match long if I have a semi competent team that doesn't get bogged down around C.
You’ll most likely meet nothing because they’ll be on the sides. The middle is only hardly usable, and for only 1 side of the map
Once again. I disagree. I use the middle of the map nearly every time I play it.
That just can’t be. Or the enemy is just nearly everytime yoloing in the open, towards no useful spot
Nope. I move mid and I spot the reds moving either A or C. I engage along the way. I'm telling you i play the middle of that map nearly every time I play it...and I do pretty well on it the majority of the time.
So you spot. But what else ? Usable only as early spot place still isn’t very useful
It isn’t that terrible in randoms, because the enemy will most likely be as smart as a rock. But in tournaments it is just a bane
I spot and engage the reds from the hull down ridges on either side of the base.
Engage them, so they just sit in the open and in an useless place?
This doesn’t happen in tournaments
A. I don't play tournaments.
B. From that point you can spot the majority of the map allowing your team shots on red tanks.
You can argue against my opinion all you want but it's not going to change it. 🤷♂️
I honestly don’t care. But for me you just told me that it was unusable space. As I thought.
No. I did not. I have repeatedly stated that I USE that space nearly every time I play the map.
Only for spotting. So hardly even used, and for a very limited amount of time. It’s exactly like telling it is unusable.
That is how I play it. Nearly every single match.
Exactly as I expected. Yoloing and disorganized enemy.
So like every other map and team in blitz. Gotcha.
Not in tournaments. No u
Like I said I don't play tournaments. Most players don't play tournaments. For those reasons using tournaments as a example of why a map doesn't work falls flat with me.
So because you can get some damage in a yolo party the map is usable ?
You spelled "so you can aggressively spot and bait a red team into screwing up and exposing themselves while at the same time getting top damage in a bottom tier light tank." wrong.
Example of someone putting enemy’s mistakes on their skill. Plus the game was far from amazing and not a good example of how you can use it. But as you see it in randoms and me in tournaments, I consider useless trying to argue more
Good. On the "useless to argue" point we agree.
Amazing, I must take a bottle of whisky for this occasion
austere lark
The only change I want on vineyards is night time to come back
Dynasty needs to get over hauled
quaint bay
Didn’t WG removed night time because it caused lag and FPS drop?
feral loom
No, people complained it's too dark. Ridiculous claim, you wouldn't be able to see anything only if you lowered your brightness to minimum for no reason.
sterile tartan
How would you suggest dynasty be changed (I completely agree I cant stand that map but I'm curious on how you would)
feral loom
Seriously, I don't understand on how people thought Vineyards was dark... You'd have to be running an OLED screen on minimum brightness in full sunlight... genuinely don't know why they did that
quaint bay
Old devices. WG wants that you can play their game on a Nokia 33 10
feral loom
Xiaomi phones are cheap, and the brightness can be unbelievably low...but I find it hard to believe people would do that since you can't see almost anything with that
austere lark
@sterile tartan blow up the town and the dividing wall between c area and encounter
quaint bay
Btw with the camping maps now I just go around the outsides all the time even when team doesn’t it works better
sterile tartan
That would help alot
civic bolt
Why is Faust so glitchy?
small vault
Why is normandy so low fps-y?
lean leaf
@small vault stop playing on Nokia:D
slender wedge
Because you need better internet. Like me.
eternal tiger
@slender wedge I'm pretty sure internet isn't related to the fps but rather ping
regal trout
Ok, FPS depends on how strong your device is
exotic frost
....
slender wedge
Ah FPS. Yes, FPS depends on your device, but blitz really shouldn't be too device demanding. It is a mobile game after all. What blitz does demand is strong internet connection.
flint jewel
Plz fix Normandy
karmic dagger
I want night maps so bad!!! Imagine how much cooler and tactical tiny maps like mines would be with weather at night?
I also really want weather since it’d be cool for snow to start just dumping down in the middle of battle on the ‘dorf
light root
imagine getting your tank stuck in a snow drift
mossy bough
that would add an interesting aspect to the game
lmao drift in ru to spray snow into heavies to reduce their view range
light root
something that could almost never work on blitz because device limitations but, raining and then map areas washing out
amber ridge
sees the SP 1 C hit a mound of snow and get stuck permamently
real steeple
Nope
An enemy SU-152 rolls around and ends its suffering
hardy crown
shoot HE to destroy snow
fresh quest
Every tank carries a shovel, if not... Complaint at high command🤓
hardy crown
goes through snow
'observation device destroyed'
white valve
What do you think about this ? This map is inspired by Castilla, alspendalt, Mayan pyramids, naval frontier, falls creek And Copperfield in the bottom left corner
forest garnet
white valve
Lol
feral loom
am I the only one who doesn't like Mines? It seems way too linear, and who controls the hill controls the map, basically.
compact cobalt
You’re not the only one. Mines is in need of some changes. Too little opportunity to flank, gameplay can be bland as its basically hill and not getting hit by tds.
Three cap td mm doesnt help the map out either.
Map rewards camping at spawn too much.
All things i have said previously
@feral loom
dire cosmos
@sharp epoch
slender wedge
@compact cobalt Agree with everything you said.
devout fox
@compact cobalt You're right about that it's all about the hill. Here are heatmaps for the Mines I've got by processing wotinspector replays. Little actions happen on flanks
proven raptor
as you can see, the td gameplay is riveting
oak shore
That’s cool!
Do you have heat maps for other maps?
knotty elm
When are they going to add another new maps?
devout fox
soon we'll publish all heatmaps on wotinspector.com. just a few things need to be polished
oak shore
Well, that’s nice to hear 😃
knotty elm
If i am in rockfield or Alpenstat. Which side shud I keep an eye on? Until now still very blur
oak shore
Rockfield Meta revolves around the north east.
For Alpenstadt Meta, both flanks work, but never go to town early on @knotty elm
knotty elm
So which means move with the team?
oak shore
Yeah
potent goblet
Those heat maps look like a rave
quaint bay
So basically what the mines heat maps are saying is predictable gameplay?
nocturne mortar
The good thing with predictable gameplay is that it allows you to do something unpredictable, taking the enemies by surprise
But in mines it doesnt really work, maybe less cover from the hill to the river would help, to introduce a bit of crossfire?
finite verge
That would be nice tho
unborn mortar
We have another "hill!!" map :) Do you remember the old one?
Is there any unchanged map since 2014?
quaint bay
Himmelsdorf maybe
But I began in 2015 so I don’t rly know
knotty elm
I started blitz at September 9th 2017 so i dunno much abt old maps
compact cobalt
I remember old rockfield and middleburg, rest unsure.
ornate narwhal
Old Desert Sands and Old Lost Temple were the best
austere lark
So many people camped the bottom left corner of lost temple
I liked that way better
verbal wadi
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devout fox
Blitz heatmaps are ready! Check them out at https://wotinspector.com/en/heatmaps. Only standard battles in encounter and supremacy modes.
visual depot
tidal valley
Fr, I'm gonna be spending a decent amount of time just studying the heat maps to start figuring out where might be a good idea to go, also, you can also check the heat map for Supremacy to see who goes where most often in relation to the bases
shut marsh
in Update 5.8 WG will make changes to FAUST MAP?
oak shore
Um... just realised that Himmelsdorf has a bit of an odd shape on the left hand side of the map... easier to see with Heat Maps on...
shut marsh
Faust map will geht new lighting. Wow.
feral loom
I didn't have a single issue with the lighting, is it gonna be brighter or something?
oak shore
It’s just lighting at the missile launch site
small vault
How do you counter 3 TDs in a med on mines, vineyards or dead rail on which they sit at rear of the med flank?
On mines the only option would be to go fight in the side with the cap, which wouldnt be ideal at all. On dead rail you expose too much when trying to get close to that snipers nest in the corner.
nocturne mortar
A beautiful little thing called blindshots
slender wedge
You don't. Accept that this is the meta we suffer in.
potent goblet
If enemy team has a bunch of meds, don't take hill but deny the enemy hill. Make them pay dearly if they want to try. Hide a bit at the bottom of hill but watch out for the island side just incase they try to use that to hit you. Send maybe 2 tanks toward the side near town just so you aren't blind to a possible flank.
I don't like mines even when I'm a TD, but usually get some good luck with this "strat" it feels way too campy but it beats trying to ruch hill and get instantly lit up
quaint bay
If the tankers will listen to reason, that is.
flint jewel
Mines need to be reworded, not because it is a bad map but because it is not a good map for inexperienced players who either YOLO the hill and die instantly or go the heavy tank route and get snipped. The way I would fix it is by allowing easier access to the hill with cover so that they can get there with out TDs raining hell, but I would make the middle hill more open with less bushes
potent goblet
@flint jewel
What would you think about these changes. Red circles are where you could put a ramp to give easier acces to hill. Blue lines are where you would carve pathways in the mountains to add flanking routes that give protection to flanking meds to add pressure to spawn camping
small vault
@nocturne mortar i dont have the credits to shoot bushes if i havent a clue of the certain location of the tds
@potent goblet yes but what happens after youve taken out the enemy meds snd you need to counter tds so the surviving tanks can advance?
@potent goblet that would be a very welcome implementation. Youve clesrly thought about this
potent goblet
I think i goofed when i typed that. Might have meant to say "unless enemy team has a bunch of meds"
Me and a couple other people had a a few discussions about what we think would help Mines be a better map, that's more or less what we came up with
small vault
I get what youre saying, i dont go for the hill in most cases either. There often isnt an advantage in being there if youre stuck behind cover. Neither of the flanks provide an effective position for a med so youre kind of stuck defending the frontline. At least in my experience.
The left flank just doesnt work against 2 tds or more imo. And even with one td you still need to get so close that the enemy at the slope leading to the frontline can just turn amd deal with youm
potent goblet
Yeah meds get screwed pretty easy on mines unless the enemy really messes up by trying to rush hill and eating too many shots along the way. So many times ill see a med yell to rush hill only for everyone who went to rush it lose over half their hp in the process almost putting half the team in one shot range. So the next time they try to take a shot will be their last.
small vault
What about TDs in the snipers nests on the med flank? I cant find an easy way to counter those either if theres many tds on the reds.
potent goblet
Currently there really isn't much of one if the TDs are setup right. Even 2 high alpha TDs are setup in spawn it can be a problem
tawny hornet
this game needs more open maps
fresh quest
Mines is good for every tank. It prevents meds racing like lunatics across the map. They have to actualiteit flank and work their way around. To take the hill, it is only possible for extreme fast meds. The old mines map had 2 access points to the hill but the second one was not for every tank useable.
real steeple
Mines is good for every tank TDs.
There. Corrected it.
slender wedge
^ It could be a fun map... If they removed or exposed the camping positions.
keen hare
THERE IS NO WAY TO FLANK IN MINES A td camping in spawn gets cover over lighthouse,center hill and town
compact cobalt
^ a good td can easily prevent you and if you try to get to him you can get shot from enemies at the base of the hill or lurking round town.
And with a potential of three tds on a team, good luck.
You can only really flank them if the enemies are all going town or they are already pushing through your team at hill and or the enemies have 0 situational awareness
quaint bay
Sure it works... now we got a bigger issue camping meds
Camping everything honestly sure hull down tanks r fun but is it fair to just sit in the open all game unpennable
fierce hearth
Lel
compact cobalt
??
honest plaza
REPOST above. Take care friends.....
compact cobalt
You already posted this in blitz memes why are you posting it in #maps-discussion
quaint bay
@fierce hearth delete that picture before mods see
fierce hearth
K
quaint bay
The hill also would not be important if there was ramps.... u could easily absolutely destroy all enemies there
abstract wind
Would love to see win% based on map played stat in Portal.... Can someone make that happen....
nocturne mortar
Its going to be whatever the average winrate is, which is about 48%
potent goblet
Wr based on map played could be useful. See what maps you win the most on verse lose.
I'd like to be able to view personal heat maps as well. See where spend most your time, routes you take, where you get most your kills from and where you die the most.
keen hare
uh actually it would be skewed coz better players upload their replays
eager tide
@potent goblet heat maps are available on wotinspector soon
potent goblet
Are the personal though? As in they only show you
eager tide
Not sure of the specifics
eager tide
Link if you want to have a gander later on : https://wotinspector.com/en/heatmaps/
potent goblet
Thank you
small ivy
Guys, what was the name of that map that have giant slug in a dessert?
oak shore
Desert Sands, right side of the map, near HT brawl area @small ivy
burnt kraken
Slug?
oak shore
The worm
burnt kraken
What worm? Am I blind?
oak shore
The worm is an easter egg, it’ll pop up there at certain times on Desert Sands @burnt kraken
flint jewel
The coolest one is on oasis palms where you can see Aladdin flying on manic carpet
hasty urchin
I have never seen that one
proven raptor
There’s a dragon that appears on Lost Temple near the end of the battle
nimble flume
I don’t know if it would go here but I have a question; when is Mad Games coming back? It says unavailable.
compact cobalt
Sometime in mid march I believe @nimble flume and yes it wouldnt really go here
nimble flume
Ok and I thought it would go here because Mad Games has new maps.
quaint bay
I found a deer crossing sign in Aztec temple or whatever it’s called
oak shore
Mayan Ruins
fresh quest
Flying carpet in desert sands.... Near the buildings
Alien tokens on hangar door in rockfield. Point your gun at the door in a little elevation and stay close to the door. Right side door
sharp finch
f
potent goblet
Just one giant bush
hollow sable
did they remove some of the maps from random battles? i haven't been seeing a lot of them lately
compact cobalt
I dont think so.
tidal valley
Also, depends on game modes, theres a couple maps that are encounter only
quaint bay
imagine supremacy on mines
junior sandal
quaint bay
Mines had supremacy once
Then WG realized that it was a really bad idea
oak shore
Aren’t they reworking Mines for the third time?
oak shore
Yep, thought so.
Thanks for the link @eager tide
honest plaza
I remember that stupid map. I have some bad memories from that thing.....
eager tide
It’s my favourite map along side castilla (because they generally don’t require any skills which suits me) 
quaint bay
Mines, uhhhh... is there a foolproof way to play there?
honest plaza
If you have a TD, yes. Sit in the spawn and farm the people pushing the hill, or the ones flanking the sides of the hill to the left or right.
flint jewel
Only the right spawn is good for TDs
keen hare
and castilla isn't even close to comparable. You can actually counteract tds. Infact Castilla rewards tds and meds rather than Heavies which is also interesting) I just spotted a grille the other day in castilla with one of my tier X meds(Or it could have been the 50b) and he got deleted in 3-4 seconds which actually punished the td. Meanwhile in mines because of the fact 2-3 tds camp at the back and some random med goes to the corner even if a td gets spotted you cant poke up to fire at it without getting rekt.
quaint bay
Himmersdolf is too small
mossy bough
copperfield is basically hope the mediums can win on their side and flank around
chilly vector
Canals Fog Genarator 10/10
noble drift
I hope we get larger maps
rain compass
quaint bay
When/why was Faust introduced
compact cobalt
I believe Faust was introduced sometime in august last year @quaint bay
ornate narwhal
I agree, Lost Temple in 2015 was the best map I have ever played, also the intro music made it.
rancid gyro
Indeed i miss that map. Just why it got removed???
left holly
One map that I think would be a cool idea is have a two teired map. Or have a map in which your driving in an underground bunker.
proven raptor
They kinda did that with Faust
mossy bough
they should do a map that has stunt spots, so lights can hit a ramp at 60kmph and go flying onto a floating flank route that you can only get to by doing a jump
desert pawn
And it would have to be a larger map for lights to cruise around to do stunts like that! ^
mossy bough
would be fun with ru's going 200ks in madgames
ornate narwhal
Hmm, We need something like a Tropical map with many trees and rivers...
potent goblet
Like that one half beach half jungle map?
ocean birch
If mines gets reworked, I hope the climb spot remains.
ornate narwhal
Back in the day the right spawn could climb the mid hill in a sneaky way. Sadly wg patched it
quaint bay
Honestly old mines were better they didn’t reward camping as much as the new mines map does
desert pawn
I agree. The sneaky climb spot was also one of my favourite aspects...
But it's gone now.
ornate narwhal
Ye, thats one of the reasons why I went for the SP 1 C, just for that climbing spot. Lol.
nocturne mortar
Why go that line for the SP 1 C when there is a RU after it?
ornate narwhal
Back than I was a noob in 2015. I was driving around in the new german light tanks and I liked them. Than I saw a SP 1 C going up that mines mid hill and after that I decided to go for the SP 1 C.
nocturne mortar
Aah back in the nooby days...
Idk why but i can remember seeing a PZII G and thinking how can it do that much damage 😂
ornate narwhal
Yeah, those were the good ol days..
vital tendon
i think they need to change tournament times sometimes its to hard to make them or add a second level .. like 3 hours earlyer
keen hare
sp1c was so fun int he old days. It had a tier 8 medium tank gun with a 2 second unload speed
chilly ibex
yup dont you miss that time
mossy bough
i dont understand why they nerfed the poop out of it
autumn kayak
I miss the good old days of the Luchs, but now (in my opinion) its travers and movement in general sucks. Also, pen was nerfed.
compact cobalt
just a reminder that this is a channel for map discussion lmao
autumn kayak
Oops
patent topaz
make a map that has more small passages
vestal tree
Winter map is interesting i guess
eager tide
More small passages? My lights say no
fresh temple
I remember that
real steeple
Himmelsdorf Mini
slate tundra
Forest map would be interesting
nocturne mortar
It would be quite difficult to add cover, and the map may get a bit boring
But a well made forest map with actual tree physics would be great
honest plaza
Imagine it: Ram a tree by accident and you damage yourself and if it falls on a teamate you kill them or deal heavy amounts of damage to them >_>
nocturne mortar
whoops sorry about that
honest plaza
Saltly AMX ELC biscuit cussing you out in the chat after your KV-1S knocks a tree over and pins them underneath it
nocturne mortar
"hey i need cover" knocks tree down in front of self
honest plaza
That actually could be a cheeky base capture tactic. Knock down trees and have the low profile tank sit inside and be completely safe XD
nocturne mortar
Hahaha, create an impenetrable wall of wood
honest plaza
Indeed. It's a race to the base to become lumberjacks made of steel XD
nocturne mortar
The gravedigger would reign supreme...
honest plaza
Alright, enough of that topic. They aren't going to make it reality and we know this,
flint jewel
On Normandy they need to change the spawn location, because one you are way to spread out, two if you spawn on the north near the beach the steapness of the climb is too much and three I have seen maus spawn on the medium orientated side (beach side)
vital hearth
sometimes Maus spawns in the meds side also in desert sands
copper hearth
In Normandy, Heavies can spawn near the beach instead of being near the heavy route
outer canopy
that once happened to me and two other heavies on Dead rail and we got screwed over by lights who spotted us and we all died before we even left spawn with no damage at all
flint jewel
It would be fine if there was cover, but there isn't any so if med or light spots mid it's a free damage pinata
ornate narwhal
We need a few bushes togheter, like a bunker of bushes. Not just a single one like most maps
golden schooner
Worst map is Faust, remove or rework required
Sincerely everyone
quaint bay
I think there should be a map that is like just no buildings at all just forest a hecka lot of trees and large boulders for cover
Idk
ornate narwhal
And thats called: Tropical. With many trees and rivirs only
potent goblet
Would probably not be a great idea with the general theme of blitz, but i kinda want an old attic themed map. Have it take place in some attic filled with books, toys, boxes covered in spider webs etc. Basically have it look and feel like everyone is playing as miniature tank models come to life after being abandoned in an attic that nobodys been to in years.
fresh quest
Make it a ' Finland map'..... Lots of snow covered trees etc etc like in the Russin-Finland war in 1943-44 I believe
burnt kraken
@potent goblet That sounds pretty dope. Maybe one year for april fools
chilly ibex
make a stalingrad map with burning tiger tanks and t34 turrets in the snow
sterile tartan
@fresh quest it would probably fit better in the continuation war then the winter war since Finland actually got a number of tanks in the continuation war
fresh quest
Finland got tanks from germany but later in the war they turned against germany but still fought the russians
signal ginkgo
lament widget
What is it?
quaint bay
Anyone hates Fausto map? I really hate it
quasi jetty
Normandy should have hedgerows
nocturne mortar
I like the blend of hard cover and ridges, but the heavy side can get a little boring, and it needs flankers to initiate any decemt combat
real steeple
PC has a Kursk map, Prokhorovka
quaint bay
Do not mention that map
civic bolt
I await the new city map for OP climbs
gonna find the tallest building, and take a battalion of SU-100Y's, and go straight up. Up until I reach the top.
and then, I'm gonna yeet myself off the edge like an edgy boi
quaint bay
@signal ginkgo which one? U mean the Space Invader Alien? nobody knows
verbal wadi
😆
keen hare
alpenstad has garbage balance
stoic apex
I would like to see more urban maps, like PC and console
valid swift
Any chance on getting a new map??
quaint bay
I really don’t know. there’s been some leaked a while ago but Idk if they’ll be added or not
valid swift
Ah ok. I remember reading something from somewhere that they were testing something??
honest plaza
It's some kind of soley Urban setting, with lots of streets and a park for open engagement.
valid swift
Ooohh nice
quaint bay
Why are they rebalancing faust? I think its fine tbh idk what they would do to it besides make the heavy side "better"
austere lark
They redid the lighting in this current update
quaint bay
Ohhh ok
austere lark
The heavy side is kinda trash
Its a stalemate until someone gets aggressive and then nuked
quaint bay
Yeah just camping until one side gets impatient
Lots of crossfire from med side as well
wary hare
that's why i play meds. Easier to change the tide when you're decent in them
valid swift
I didn’t notice any lighting changes... lol
I agree though. The heavy side feels too slow. Basically a battle of sidescraping until someone pens someone enough to take them out and push. Haha
keen hare
@austere lark whats your opinion on alpenstadt med side balance. Im talking about the valley area which I think is heavily unbalanced
austere lark
I think med side is garbage
Yes you can be aggressive but then you get stuck in a light or medium
You can spot a little bit and hopefully have tds rain down
I think it needs to be more fluid
@keen hare thoughts?
keen hare
im talking about spawn balance
one side gets a much better position where the enemy actually has to crest a ridge to get you.
you know what im talking about @austere lark . The valley region where one team meds can yolo to spot everyone and pin em down but the other team meds cant
austere lark
It’s weird
North side can be more aggressive and safe but the heavies can be more aggressive on the lead up to the cap
South tds have better spots
quaint bay
Mhhh i hope next map is a city map with some sneaky spots
keen hare
so what exactly is everyones problem with dyanstry pearl. My problem is that you are ALWAYS spotted
quaint bay
My problem with that pile of garbage is that it is composed of corridors, and only corridors. There’s no way to use properly a sniper TD or an LT here. No good sniper position, relocating is nearly impossible
nocturne mortar
^
It is almost impossible to shoot without taking a hit, and TDs and lights really cant take hits
quaint bay
^
Not to mention that heavies can easily take advantage on the part of the map which is supposed to be LT/MT area
sick glade
True
trim sand
Why goldville noire never change ? , so old map , 90% of teams are splitted on this map
gritty sparrow
Because the map is still good, the heavy side has enough protection and the flank enough space, besides maby more hull down spots, i think the map dosen’t need a update
magic sedge
Heavy area is garbage, 90% of the time, you should head for caves
austere lark
I disagree
I prefer c side. You can have 1-2 spotters from the road and have all sorts of sight lines from town
magic sedge
If you have a rando team, C side is generally bad (At least in my experience). In a tournament, you can have a coordinated team, grab 2 bases, and hold the enemy team until you make them rush or win on cap, but with randoms, people usually poke all the way out in their heavies, get spotted and are gunned down, nobody can really reach base B, and your mediums and lights either die trying to flank all the way around or get stuck with their heavies trying to not get nuked
nocturne mortar
^
brittle verge
they should add more bushes on himmelsdwarf
magic sedge
Tell me... where would a bush grow on that map?
potent goblet
Could be a number of places. Plant life sometimes grows in weird places (like the top of a skyscraper)
magic sedge
Just my op but I don’t think it could possibly be implemented on that map. Maybe on PC version of himmelsdorf but naw, couldn’t see it for blitz
potent goblet
Maybe if the flash forwarded the map where nature is reclaiming it. Grass has begun to grow along with some bushes and trees around the outisde
quaint bay
The abandoned mice in the centre are covered in moss
amber ridge
lmao remember the wasteland map
outer canopy
Don't want to
sterile tartan
I actually enjoyed that map
quaint bay
Same
thin lotus
Wort map
potent goblet
It was ok for mad games. Outside of that, not a fun map
arctic beacon
Is wasteland coming back?
quaint bay
Idk
nocturne mortar
I think it is, but the new mad games is going to be on other maps as well
arctic beacon
All maps I think it said 🤔
amber plume
@arctic beacon I do not think Wasteland is coming back as it does not say anything about the map returning.
honest plaza
Which is sad. I enjoyed that map dearly...
arctic beacon
Wat.
quaint bay
i remember during when wasteland was still in existence i made a bad pun about it in battle chat
so i said, "yunno why the wasteland map is so trash? cuz its 'waste'!"
and then everyone went for me in my wz111
stiff smelt
Anyone else think dynasty's Pearl is a bad map?
nocturne mortar
Yes, there are no spots for TDs at all, and lights and meda have a hard time spotting usefully without dying
magic sedge
^^^^^
sterile tartan
I can never win on it and if I do its generally because it was an unfair fight to start off (they have an afk or a yoloer)
crisp sonnet
Can we ask wargaming for an iwo jima map?
sterile tartan
That would be cool
sterile tartan
I'd love more historic maps
chilly ibex
I'd love to have a map of a certain japanese city, and then if theres a draw a atomic bomb detonates
ocean birch
why
quaint bay
:GWqlabsYaoLUL:
I haven't played Blitz in a while but I can say for sure that I dislike the Dynasty Pearl map
potent goblet
Many people do
fresh quest
I don't like vineyards. But I do like some seasons in every map. Spring in death rail or autumns then when you get dead rail again the original winter mode.... This makes the maps less boring and more colorful to play. Portbay in wintertime with snowfall...... Slippery ice in winter malinovka so you have to drive more carefull.
In short, more season variations.
real steeple
Um, I don't know about slippery ice, but seasonal variations is a good idea.
ocean birch
Slippery ice would be cool tbh
quaint bay
but tenks have treads
quasi vine
Yaasss that’s a good idea
quaint bay
All 40%ers break the ice and automatically die when they drive over it
Yeah that sounds good
chilly ibex
we already have ice in the game
ornate narwhal
Yeah we need Glacier from pc
fresh quest
vote for seasons in existing maps here (summer,autumn, winter and spring with snowflakes, rain or storm) Or even winter maps in summertime for instance
nocturne mortar
@small vault blindshots are easy, they force TDs to move and you are syoer unlikely to get spotted
slate tundra
@fresh quest I agree, a small problem would be lag or some devices may not be able to process as well, but they could turn it off.
fresh quest
Yes that option could be possible. The main idea is to make the maps less boring but still have the same map
feral loom
Not gonna lie, I'd like to see another autumn map, preferably with a lot of autumn leaves on the ground but that's my subjective opinion and the fact I love fall as a season
fresh quest
Or leaves falling from the trees while the wind in blowing.....
raven radish
ｈｍ
fresh quest
Just vote if you want seasons in the game. Read above
neon lark
Oberst_Leutnant1 Think of blitz; what is it? A mobile game for mostly low-end devices. You think these phones and tablets have high processing power? No. It's only PC players that can typically afford high graphics. So it wouldn't bring new players, just older players would experience lag.
real steeple
It could be an optional feature that can be disabled anytime
ocean birch
@neon lark
Ok so many things wrong with that
They would have no problems implementing weather, they proved it with wasteland.
‘Affording high graphics’ makes no sense, you pay for components not the option in the settings.
You do realise that just because they’re on pc, it doesn’t mean that they have a powerful system. I used to game with a Pentium 2 and a tiny intergrated gpu.
Wg proved that weather could be implemented already, and players with lower specs experiencing ‘lag’ is almost always a network problem. Low graphics settings in WoTB should allow almost anyone to play at a comfortable framerate, and it’s not like there won’t be an option to turn down the weather effects.
It would still be the same game, just with an option for better-looking visuals available to people with suitable hardware. Lower-spec players wouldn’t get affected.
neon lark
Who's actually gonna go tryhard buying a gaming phone
real steeple
If it is an optional feature, then I don't see the problem
torn moat
Just play on pc instead of getting a gaming phone
fresh quest
just vote if you like seasons in the excisting maps and let WG brainstorm if it would be possible or not. scroll up for voting
WG just want our suggestions nothing else.
honest plaza
The reactions above are baseline stuff, counting from 1 as if it was zero.
rose pond
Wg, please fix the maps. Most of your maps are only viable from one side in 99% of the games you'll play on it (I'm talking random battles here), e.g. middleburg, the town is utterly useless, and the big hill to get to the other side just encourages lazy idiots to go town alone. Similarly, yamato harbor, black goldville, oasis palms, vineyards, fort despair, all have towns that are completely unviable. Even himmelsdorf, is more viable playing the medium side in 90% of the games. Since you the mm changes most tanks have 3 or less heavies, making the towns even more pointless.
toxic moss
Well they are making that new city map so mybe they will change the imbalance s
tawdry adder
@neon lark I have a gaming phone :)
outer canopy
Nice
what model(?)
tawdry adder
Razer 2
lofty abyss
I have a cracked sumsung s7
ocean birch
I have a mystery phone that can run snake
tawdry adder
Aha
subtle seal
how come nobody uses mid in Castilla?
I use mid to annoy people going to mill and I use it in my bc to spot
and yet nobody uses mid for some bizarro reason
quaint bay
I think it’s because if you move too far forward or back, tanks from both the left and right sides have shots on you all day
It’s hard to find cover that you know you can trust
subtle seal
northern spawn as usual
ths is my spot, I go here for early heavy spots
using the BCs excellent camo rating, I could use this area as an early harass + spot
and nobody realizes it but you are completely protected from the guys on the hill
quasi jetty
Good to know
amber plume
@subtle seal I know that position and it gets countered so easily, an IS4 or E100 can get hulldown and shooting you from above while you can not penetrate the turret. That spot is good for tiers 7 and bellow.
subtle seal
thats why whenever I go on that position I never shoot @amber plume
or at least only shoot when shots are available, TDs exist for a reason
amber plume
Well, if you get spotted there you are dead as if you run TDs kill you, or Heavies kill you
grave saddle
Globe voice chat ptt
rancid heath
Maybe nobody goes there coz those hts at windmill will get spotted either way and the mts go to castle to spot the enemy tds which is much more useful than spotting hts who will eventually get spotted nonetheless
just an opinion dont @ me
mossy star
we just need a large map
river canopy
@subtle seal Mid is kind of a useless spot (in pubs). All it does is give you shots on the mill area, but the castle, and the TD spots in the spawn already can easily shoot the mill anyway. And if you send a tank mid, that's a tank that could have been used to take map control in a more useful spot (like the castle)
untold escarp
it rains in the center of canal
quaint bay
dtmdtmdtmdm
sudden void
quasi jetty
Boys I’ve done it
faint hull
I'd like to bigger maps
quaint bay
climbing to the top of the hill in a t95? that's some effort.
arctic beacon
@faint hull yes, but then maybe we need more snipy accurate tanks
faint hull
Such as...
arctic beacon
welp, at far range the majority of the reticles on tanks are not on the tank, and larger maps = less hit chance
faint hull
So? More skill
arctic beacon
even at max accuracy, the reticle can still be fairly large, and be inaccurate
faint hull
More skill
WG would have to make some changes but nothing really would change
Maybe have 10vs 10 battles then flanking is actually possible
arctic beacon
more skill i guess, but would need to make some tanks more adaptable, and maybe more maneuverable
faint hull
Yes WG would have to make some adjustments
quasi jetty
Thanks @potent shore
tough tulip
I missed the old lost temple and yamato harbour intros
silver cipher
Big maps god
river canopy
@faint hull Flanking in battles with larger playercounts is much harder because there will be more tanks on each flank to deal with. Take Blitz's 7v7 vs. PC's 15v15 for example. On Blitz, it's not uncommon that you can seize an entire flank while only having to deal with one tank, sometimes none; but on PC, there's almost always at least like 3, 4, or even 5 tanks standing in your way.
Also, larger maps and player counts dilutes the impact of skill. The smaller the game, the larger impact a single player can have on the outcome. Moreover, longer ranges means that shots are more dependent on RNG for hits. While I'd like to see some slightly larger maps (like maybe 600x600M instead of the current 500x500M maps), larger maps, and larger playercounts especially diminishes the impact of skill
magic sedge
^^^^^^
faint hull
700x700M map would be ok
keen hare
uh 700X700 is like twice as big as 5x5. Plz think first
oak shore
Actually, 1.96x larger than 500x500
brittle verge
what is the best clan of blitz???
arctic beacon
pramo?
sterile tartan
PRAMO for sure
fallen sleet
Depends what server
austere lark
As much as we appreciate the support, RGN, VOID, PURPL, STR8 and PINCER are all top end clans. It’s not just about us 😉
sterile tartan
Maybe but who has the big flag in the hanger
sleek parcel
rikka is best clan
quaint bay
^^
turbid epoch
^
feral loom
^^^^ I ain't even mad
amber plume
^^^
jovial bluff
BOBBY is best
copper hearth
Void 2 is best
potent shore
lol
slate tundra
Hahaha
burnt hull
You forgot HATED lol
magic sedge
Come on guys, the [LOSER] clan is by FAR the best! For God’s sake they have EVE_Deathwagon! One of the best players around!
amber plume
@magic sedge and he has an M60...
magic sedge
Ye
pine vector
Keep map size as they are and decrease view range.
quaint bay
They are all good clans in their own special ways.
hollow willow
fresh quest
Create more dense bushes so TDs could actually snipe and not have to camp in spawn
nocturne mortar
Yay lets encourage active and mobile gameplay even more
oak shore
^^^
The bushes are fine. I’ve used them to good effect quite a lot
quaint bay
Amazing how many players want to play World of Bunkers SITZ!
neon lark
@quaint bay What about sealclubber clans
neon lark
Ok then, back to map disscussion
minor agate
Higher Camp size and map size😁
minor agate
Aha ok😂
hardy crown
bigger maps is cool but theyll limit players with low end devices
neon lark
They aren't the ones that usually pay for In Game merch
nocturne mortar
No but they make up a large proportion of players i would assume
hardy crown
B cap at winter malikovna is a good path to flank the heavies at their usual route
fresh quest
B-cap in vineyard is always faster caped than A-cap right after the battle begins. It seems that the route to B-cap is a bit shorter than to A-cap.
brittle verge
is pramo still thriving @austere lark ?
knotty elm
@austere lark Why did you guys disband?
amber plume
...
copper hearth
some old map pictures to bring back some memories.Old Lost Temple was much better
rip Reloading Imput
eternal tiger
Lmao I still remember people rushing the cap
gritty sparrow
Oh my gawd i didn’t remember lost temple had a change. O.o the memories
eager tide
Memeries
magic sedge
Those cap slug fests were the best
half plover
keen hare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0bSw26GJN8 This video should be pinned
potent shore
eh...
i kinda disagree with Bushka here
that spot is not very OP. first, you kinda isolate yourself there and there isn't an escape route if you get stuck up there
the enemy team just should not be pushing up into the middle of that hill where Bushka farmed them. there's spots on the slope up where you can get spots and and shots
fresh quest
I agree with maverick
magic sedge
If you have some presence of firepower on your side and a half decent team then that spot can be an XP farm. Spots for days. Not to mention it’s an M48 Patton or comet’s dream.
chilly ibex
I thought Bushka would mention the spot near b. The spot he did end up mentioning, > Insert Maverick's statement here <
keen hare
I think canyon overall is pretty unfair
one side gets unspotted tds at spawn while the other side doesnt.
south meadow
Why anyone goes to the far flanks on Alpen still boggles my mind. 😂
There are bushes on both sides of spawn, on the medium flank towards the middle of the map that control if you understand bush mechanics.
cyan sun
bush mechanics
keen hare
coz tanks go center of town these days and flank and screw you up there
cyan sun
Yep
south meadow
Not even town, it's on the medium flank, just not far corner. The far corner is useless and you can't control the game from there.
keen hare
can anyone explain why the meta in normandy became to go beach
its such a garbage location yet everyone goes there
its such a garbage meta map
potent shore
@keen hare maybe to the edge of the cliffs but not to the beach, right?
most of my games center around the middle actually
keen hare
i dont get why eveyrone goes there anyway its stupid espeically in supremacy
outer canopy
In the battles I've had on Normandy, I've barely seen anyone ever go down that way
keen hare
i dont mean beach but why cliffs so much it just makes me angry when town is much better coz its high ground
potent shore
WG was messing with us
they built the town on the hill
like, I hate going down, but i hate town
reeeeeeee
keen hare
also jesus christ is C cap unbalanced on cancal
i sry A cap
it has ez cover for south spawn but north spawn requires getting nuked by tds
potent shore
yeah they should put some more hills or buildings to make it fair
keen hare
they could just move it a bit closer to north
neat scarab
I still not sure the bush in B cap of Canals is working
keen hare
canyon is really getting unfair and its making me mad. One side literally is so far from the center the tds can just sit in the open and snpe meds in the center but the other side doesnt
hot sun
Yeah
icy orchid
Hello
hot sun
Hello
covert swift
I remember old vineyards, any time someone started B cap you could always sink 1 in
Specially with derp gun
1 quick question.....
Can anyone tell me how to aerial view maps like the guys during tournaments or training room battles?
sterile tartan
You can probably find a ss online
topaz blaze
Mines needs a second way to get up the Hill. It becomes a stagnant game as soon as everyone brawls for the hill.
quaint bay
Mines is just not suited for tier 6 and above
neat scarab
B cap in vinyards.. I love it
topaz blaze
It's perfect.
neat scarab
Not gonna spoil it or WG will balance it out
honest crow
You mean they’ll make it flatter for the IS-Xs?
keen hare
mines doesnt need a second way up the hill. The hill needs to buffed. the spawn camping heavy spot is annoying af along with the tds
lusty summit
No, mines i would say does need another way up or atleast there wouldn't be any harm to do so.what needs to be perfected is a more reliable flank route and make town more usable instead of that small corner near the rock.
potent goblet
How about this. Me and a couple others have been kinda throwing ideas out on how we'd improve mines. Blue is a craved out tunnel type that allows meds to flank and pressure any Tds that decide to camp while allowing routes into town while being safe from hill. Red are spots where a ramp would be allowing easier access to the hill. Yellow are where more cover could be added to help meds and possible Tds move about, especially giving Tds another spot to go and encourage them to not sit in spawn if enemy takes hill.
lusty summit
Imo,the red that directly gets you to the hill isnt bad.The yellow is a bit grey.The red in the middle is a big nono,my idea is just to remove the hill completely for more usable space for anything really.
potent goblet
I assume you mean the red to the left is the no no? Why would it be bad? Currently to go from the beach you go one of two ways and if you're engaging enemies on the hill it's a really open and fairly dangerous route. That ramp would help cut it down in half and help prevent people from camping beach side. It'd also allow people to go from lower part of hill to the waters and get back up if needed without having to all the way around. Especially helpful to the slower tanks so they can move around.
calm loom
it be quite similar to malinovka
potent goblet
Malinovka?
calm loom
swap the windmill and village then you get mines
hot sun
How about making mines the way it was in the old days it was much bigger, also falls creek I do not like that map at all
eager tide
@potent goblet some changes were planned for mines don’t know what happened to them:
https://twitter.com/WoTBlitz/status/1035551839473811457
potent goblet
Kinda looks like they flattened it
quaint bay
Global warming has definitely taken effect, no grass to be seen!
chilly ibex
wasteland
lusty summit
There is absolutely no need for the mountains to use up the map space
lusty summit
?im talking about the mountain making like 20% of the map unusable
keen hare
its so impossible to push on canyon from north spawn coz south spawn is so far from center it gets invisible tds
flint jewel
For mines you just need to be able to get to the mid easily with out getting shot by tds.
magic sedge
If the Td spawn camping spots dont change much, then at least make it so you can use the bush. For one of the sides, there is a bush there but it has a hole in it, so poor players that don’t know its like that, sit in the bush expecting to be not spotted and then get it up and pummeled.
potent goblet
My strat for mines is deny hill but don't take it. If it's a stand still. Send one tank to cap and one along the hill to spot for person capping in case anybody heading to stop the cap
nocturne mortar
What i tend to do is get into a position opposite the main hill so i get shots at anyone pushing the hill and also on the sides of the turrets of any tank that wants to push. I will try and send a med to the river to flank but it isnt necessary as i can normally grind out enough damage to change the course of the battle
potent goblet
Pretty much yeah
river canopy
What I like about Mines is it does a good job at being an assymetrical side; for both sides, I usually play to deny the hill at the start, but then my mid-game play depends on the side and the lineup
The North Spawn is well suited to aggressive play. The TD spots aren't as good, but if the North Spawn team can take either the South East or South West corners, they can collapse the South spawn team pretty easily. The South Spawn team is the opposite. There are fewer aggressive positions they can take to dislodge the northern team, but their defensive positions are far superior
timber agate
First thing to do to mines is to get it out from X games.
potent shore
^
magic sedge
^
tawdry adder
Just make mines a big square with nothing in. Nowhere to hide. Just a full on 7vs7 ah
native acorn
I like mines
fresh quest
Mines is fine. I remember the old mines and wg reworked it on players request and suggestions. All were happy about it and now ppl starting to complain again. I tell you, mines is fine not every map has to be designed in favor for med drivers.
timber agate
But meds mostly dominate that map. Copperfield, Mirage, Lost temple isnt tier x maps but mines is. I dont get it.
fresh quest
Personally I think all maps should be for all tiers.
amber plume
@fresh quest yeah, put tier 1s on Canyon. Shall be an awesome battle of driving around trying to spot each other
hot sun
@amber plume it would be amazing to see tier1s fall off Normandy to the beach and self destruct
fresh quest
@amber plume when tier 1 plays in canyon, wg can adjust its borders if you play low tiers. Just a simple software solution. Don’t try to be smart at me.
keen hare
the thing that really makes he hate fort despair is that even on supremacy we are forced to go the med route to the sniping area. Most other supremacy base dmaps have 2 caps near the heavy area. Its really too much of a deadlock to play fort despair with there being like 3 tds in the bushes in the back
fresh quest
Vineyards sucks. B cap is always capped first than A cap
nocturne mortar
@fresh quest not all maps such as vineyards are designed in favour for meds drivers
fresh quest
Trust me. I drive more tds and hts than meds. Still I see in that map no matter which side I start that B cap is quicker capped than A cap
nocturne mortar
That gives team at A a 10 point advantage? But they have slightly worse cover imo and have awkward spotting routes
fresh quest
Team which get B has a 5-10 point advantage. Cover in A as in B are pretty much the same
The route to B seems to be shorter than to A for meds
nocturne mortar
Whoops sorry i meant B not A. Im not talking about the cover in the bases im talking about the general cover. Anyway 10 points is hardly game changing...
fresh quest
I hate vineyard no matter its supremacy or regular I think this map qualifies for a rework
Agreed I never run for bases unless I get close to them. I rather dmg or kill the enemy
errant terrace
Actual mines are not located in small hills in middle of areas, they are essentially tunnels coming out of sides of mountains. Then there are structures adjacent to the tunnel. Canyon is more like a real mine than “Mines”
keen hare
ok yeah canyon is literally my least favorite map now. Absolutely garbage design
if if from the north spawn. its fine from south
sour flume
Faust is so annoying
nocturne mortar
Nah faust is a decent map, heavies dont have too much cover and the meds have an interesting side and the whole map is pretty balenced
barren niche
potent shore
Faust is pretty cool bro
its not perfect, like it could use a few more bushes, but it has elevation and that's essential for a city kinda map
potent goblet
Faust would make a cool FPS map.
potent shore
indeed
lusty summit
I kinda dislike the top corner med brawl
maiden chasm
blitz should add berlin map