vehicles-discussion

[balmy compass]

Just wanted to say the top gun is 4 - 4 - 4

[solid gate]

i want to go british mediums is it worth it? and what is good beginner autoloader heavies?

[odd cove]

they are for the hesh pen, but the british lines have a higher skill cap.

as for autoloaders, many people go for the t57 or 50b which are both good in their own respects.

[solid gate]

hm okay.. thanks for the help.

[narrow steeple]

Yea british enjoyers are insane or skilled

[young hollow]

Hey guys how to use the struv

[dim pollen]

Which one? Strv 74? Or m42?

[blissful osprey]

The struv.

[rigid thunder]

the struv

[blissful osprey]

struv struv struv

[umbral hamlet]

which strv?

[strange thicket]

which is faster, Jade or Drac?

[hollow notch]

Jade

By quite a bit

[strange thicket]

thanks

[balmy compass]

Is the Krupp offer worth the price? I feel like buying it because its cheap

[umbral hamlet]

it's a tier5, it isn't really worth it unless you don't have any premium

[balmy compass]

I dont have anything else to spend my gold on and I want the Krupp for collecting reasons

[plucky summit]

Wait for a Löwe or T54E2 deal 😳

[acoustic galleon]

Decent upper plate but paper turret. Avarage gun. Its meh.

[balmy compass]

Been waiting for almost a year for Lowe 💀

[pallid flame]

why do you want it so bad

[balmy compass]

Because I want it

I set aside some of my gold for tanks that I want to buy

[pallid flame]

it’s nothing special

[night citrus]

lowe is the only tank where sniping is best

[balmy compass]

I have heard good things about it and I have been saving gold for it for a while

[acoustic galleon]

Wait for Lions day. There is usually an offer for the tank + camo at 5K gold.

[balmy compass]

Thats in August 💀

[acoustic galleon]

Patience is an virtue I guess.

[balmy compass]

I could have 20k gold by then 💀

[acoustic galleon]

I'm saving for the VK90.

[dim pollen]

Vk 90 is awesome! U will love it

[plucky summit]

It’s the credit grinding capability, that’s why

[dim pollen]

And dead accurate gun

[plucky summit]

Yes but that argument falls for the strengths of the T54E2, so Löwe has another purpose

[dim pollen]

I feel lowe is like a heavy medium

[plucky summit]

It’s just a heavy.

[pallid flame]

doesn’t change anything

[plucky summit]

Not everyone gets tanks for performance in battle, some people just need a quick credit grinder.

Though performance does matter, because T26E4 has a better coefficient, but performs much worse to warrant a better grinding capability than Löwe

[pallid flame]

Any t8 can make credits

[strange thicket]

yeah but not as good as a lowe

[pallid flame]

false

[strange thicket]

uh huh, sure.

[plucky summit]

I'm sure tanks like T54E2 can, due to performance, but still, I offered them side-by-side for a reason. Lowe can more lazily earn them

[wide forge]

Is the T110E3 good?

[balmy compass]

Is T54E2 the shark?

[plucky summit]

Yeah

[blissful osprey]

No, it’s the Tier VIII HT tank

You know it says in the name, right? The leg camo doesn’t just say “Shark.”

[balmy compass]

Well the Shark is powerful, most people want it anyway

[civic iron]

No it's the bark

[plucky summit]

Wuf

[blissful osprey]

It’s the ark

[balmy compass]

I remember American tanks more easily by their legendary camo rather then a near random amount of numbers and letters
Yes I know there is a system but its annoying for me to read “T58A9E4”

[plucky summit]

Well when you’re a Blitz nerd like me, you know what tank they refer to, no beed for LCamo names 😎

[blissful osprey]

That’s just sad. You’d have trouble with the TPs.

[balmy compass]

Besides, nearly all legendary camos have a unique name, so I can remember which tank has that camo name

[balmy compass]

I prefer remembering German VK designations

[plucky summit]

VK 16.02 Leopard 🤤

[civic iron]

Fearless :>

[balmy compass]

Yeah, but you would almost never see those tanks anyway
They are also just a copy of the premium version with a few little changed stats

[civic iron]

You are disgracing t-62A

[balmy compass]

Oh right, T-62A also has Fearless 💀

[balmy compass]

Fearless camo

Dont try to ghost ping me bro 🗿

[civic iron]

who

[balmy compass]

I wasn’t able to catch the guy

[civic iron]

ah

[solid gate]

We want back the old tanks of level 1

[odd cove]

t1 cunningham, ms-1, leichtraktor

[solid gate]

When Wargaming do an event or something like that, that you can get for free te old tanks of level 1????

[violet timber]

Never

[solid gate]

Why???

[balmy compass]

those tanks were removed from the game

[solid gate]

But, they are in the game

[valid gale]

Can’t be obtained

[solid gate]

Yes, but i don,t understand for example why Wargaming did an event for the MS-1 but no for the other old tanks of level 1

[balmy compass]

Probably because the MS-1 was the most popular of the 3

[lyric oriole]

Also because it's been less than a year since the MS-1 event?

[blissful osprey]

People aren’t patient

[balmy compass]

Feels like its been more then a year to me 💀

[hollow notch]

Even when the ms1 event was active, it took me 2 minutes to find a match in that tier.
Low tiers are dead
0 point to even putting more tanks there

[balmy compass]

Its a flex tank for training rooms

[past fractal]

Im trying to grind T49

How do I play that tank with the 152 mm?

[balmy compass]

Run around slap some heavy with HE in the back, run away and do it until you die

[solid gate]

load like 12 HESH shells and spam it

[hollow notch]

Get close unspotted, peek something that just shot someone else on your team, slap them, run away. Repeat until all reds are dead. You are going to be shooting (ideally) about half HEAT and half HE, so be sure to learn what you can and cannot engage with each shell.

Your main goal is pissing off reds to get them to suicide at you. Be able to retreat to allies, and avoid taking shots as much as possible

Expect to be incinerating credits. It is not a profitable tank to play.

It is a monster once you know how to use it though, nothing else can hit as hard (tier for tier) while being able to just zoom away

[balmy compass]

You will suffer the infamous track crit alot

[hollow notch]

Not really. Just gotta get closer

[still pewter]

hello everyone, I have a question, should I buy a t49?

[solid gate]

you can

[hollow notch]

1: are you good?

2: do you have credits to burn?

If yes to both, do it
If not, probably avoid

[still pewter]

xd

I understood you)

[weak furnace]

is Fv215b 183 op?

[balmy compass]

Its a fat meatbag

[weak furnace]

what do you mean?

[balmy compass]

Large, bad accuracy, people target due to weak armor, only shoots every 20 seconds or so, easy to beat

[rigid thunder]

(it's bad)

[balmy compass]

You get to do the funny of slapping 1k+ damage if you hit your shot but thats about it

[weak furnace]

oke thanks

[devout frigate]

T49 derp is best rng lmao

[fierce sable]

I know it, its very funy lol

[tame spear]

player based

[misty wing]

hmm

[empty helm]

Why won't wg add an autoloader for t30

[misty wing]

because it would be either OP or would have a way too long reload to be suitable for the game

[umbral hamlet]

@calm inlet wait 4202 had an AP/HEAT/HESH gun back in the days?

[calm inlet]

yes

[misty wing]

I thought it still had one

[calm inlet]

i think it lasted for 1 update? may have been two

no, the tank had 1 gun and it had APCR/HEAT/HESH

HESH as in premium HESH shells

the ones with 210mm of pen, along with a 300mm HEAT round

anyways following a massive spike of 4202 players and the best games the tank has ever seen, WG split those capabilities into two different guns and gave each gun some cheap HESH as a third round

[misty wing]

maybe it was for the cent 7/1, but I remember them giving it an option of a heat gun or a hesh gun at one point

[umbral hamlet]

ye anngael made a video about it when it was removed

[calm inlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/266750422566305803/356790329334169601/image.png

this was back in the day

121 being the highest winrate medium was when the tank was actually in supertest

[umbral hamlet]

61% wr 🤣

[calm inlet]

the chart was showing players from a certain career winrate from the RU server (55-65%)

this was in Update 4.3

[umbral hamlet]

i started playing in 5.7 update i think, that's probably why I never heard about that

[calm inlet]

and then by 4.7, the tanks lost their 2 premium shells

ah that makes sense

[thorny smelt]

T30's autoloader doesn't mean it has a clip of 2 or more shells. It is a mechanism that replaces the person who loads the shell. I think we discussed about it a few days ago as I think it is called load assist or a similar term.

[empty helm]

So is it an auto reloader

[thorny smelt]

With the 155 mm T7E1 gun, yes. I think it won't affect in-game that much. I don't know if they still include the loader. In-game, it is just a T7 gun.

[broken turtle]

or make it like the foch, 2 shells autoloader, long reload between shells

[empty helm]

WG should rename IS-8 to T-10 for historical accurate

[umbral hamlet]

blitz is not an historically accurate game

[fickle ridge]

add Canon D'Assaut Lorraine Wg

[umbral hamlet]

if you mean the AMX CDA td, it's already in the game

[fickle ridge]

Canon D'Assaut LORRAINE

[umbral hamlet]

that's a foch basically
No need for a premium copy paste of an already existing tech tree

[fickle ridge]

a foch with no hatches

[umbral hamlet]

fochs have hatches to balance their guns and mobility

if they wanted to balance them differently, they would've probably added the Lorraine cda

[mossy cosmos]

Is Krupp 38d worth picking up for a collector?

[umbral hamlet]

any tank is worth picking for collecting purposes

[mossy cosmos]

Okay, but is it a unique vehicle that doesn't show up in store to often

[umbral hamlet]

then you just answered yourself

[kindred wren]

I’d say its a pretty standard tank in that regard (though it should be noted that almost all tanks have the standard shop appearance cycle)

[thorny smelt]

It uses 100 mm SA 47 gun like the AMX 50 100 and AMX M4 49

[fickle ridge]

should be ok as a tier 7 prem or sort

[thorny smelt]

I want it as tier 8

[fickle ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[umbral hamlet]

they could put in t9, smh like a paper armored copy past of the foch but with an even better gun (10 gun dep especially)

[thorny smelt]

The 100 mm gun at tier 9 makes it a medium bully

[fickle ridge]

making it tier 7 would be broken

[umbral hamlet]

there are already too many prems in t7-8, while t9 "lacks" (not that i miss them) of them

[thorny smelt]

Oh yeah. Tier 9 and 10 only has a handful of premiums.

[empty helm]

French jagpanzer 4

[copper swan]

no cupola better

in game amx cda 405 has one

[jagged totem]

thats good tho removes the paying noobs at higher tiers

[sharp walrus]

hey, i'm looking for a premium tank at level 8 to farm credits. At the moment there is the Chrysler k, IS-2Sh and the EMIL 1951. Do you recommend one of them?

[balmy compass]

Hey look @earnest rampart this guy also uses the IS-2Sh!

[hollow notch]

Definitely not the IS

[umbral hamlet]

Chrysler is a good pick
Is2sh is one of the worst 8s in the game
and you don't really need the 1951 if you can get yourself the tech tree Emil

[copper swan]

what other tanks are worth getting over wz 112-2?

[thorny smelt]

Go for Chrysler K. This tank will make you learn how to side-scrape. There's also WZ-112-2 if you're participating the event.

[sharp walrus]

ok thanks guys, i will go for the Chrysler

[dim pollen]

Man...the more I see abt Foch, the more I feel to grind for it lol

[umbral hamlet]

be aware that the line is absolute garbage until you reach tier9

[dim pollen]

Yeah man. Thts why I control my urges lol

[umbral hamlet]

i was thinking about grinding it too after type71

[dim pollen]

How's the type 71

[umbral hamlet]

it's great imo, especially in random

it'll probably substitute mediums too (ofc heavys) in tournaments with the improved tracks equipment

[dim pollen]

I still didn't get the type 71 update though

[umbral hamlet]

i played the common test

[dim pollen]

Ok

[pliant arrow]

Is the AT-2 a good tank ?

[dim pollen]

Yeah. I mean...well....the grind after tht is painful. Considering u r gonna be facing nubs who don't know where to hit at2 for damage, u will enjoy it

R u kidding lol. Ur question seems as if u r trolling us

[pliant arrow]

It feels good being immortal

[dim pollen]

But the tanks like at8 and at15 are heavily mortal lol

[pliant arrow]

My end goal is the tier X tank with Max dmg and pierce

[dim pollen]

Well. If u r a f2p player, the grind will take forever lol.

[pliant arrow]

Haven't payed a cent

[dim pollen]

It is. No doubt. Still having MY doubt on ur question whether u r trolling or wht

[pliant arrow]

Any tips for gaining exp fast ?

[dim pollen]

Good luck then mister. I'm currently stuck in at15 lol. Heard many of them complain abt tier 9 tortoise. So....the grind looks it is gonna last forever 🥲

[pliant arrow]

I'm about 12k exp from the AT-8

[dim pollen]

Ok ok lol. Grille 15's name is taken whenever we talk abt op TDs. But u gotta be good in the TD playstyle otherwise u will get vaporised by HE shells

[pliant arrow]

Oh yeah, should I use the original shell or HE shell with the AT-line ?

[dim pollen]

Get those ×5 and ×3 cards. Whenever u get them, equip combat xp boosters and fxp boosters. Enable premium account. Thats all for gaining more xp. If u r on mobile phone, u can watch ads to double ur xp gain

Don't sell the waffle yet. Try grille. It's a tier X. The grind ends here and u will earn only elite xp as well as creds. Similar to what premium and collector tanks do

Tank destroyer=TD🤷🏻‍♂️

[pliant arrow]

Oh wait, that reminds me ....how do I sell tanks ?

[dim pollen]

Lower tiers don't pack a punch for effective HE damage

[dim pollen]

Wow. Nice. Thnx for trolling me lol

[pliant arrow]

...I wasn't trolling...

[past fractal]

tower defense no jk, its tank destroyer, aka the tanks with 🔺icon

[pliant arrow]

I've been playing for 4 days dude. I know close to nothing

[dim pollen]

TDs are not supposed to take the frontline battles mate. U r always gonna be sniping. Staying on high grounds on the edges of the map and picking off targets from the distance.

[pliant arrow]

Also that's twice now you took our questions as troll questions, you might have some trust issues.

[dim pollen]

Oops. Sorry. I misjudged u😅

To sell a tank, open the tech tree, find the tank u wanna sell and click the sell button on the bottom right corner. It will show in red

[empty helm]

T28 proto

[dim pollen]

Lmao tht bastard is not actually a TD lol. Just a zombie heavy
Moving slowly and damaging like a TD

[dim pollen]

Yeah I do have trust issues. Just a skeptical guy.

U can DM me for more. The slow mode sucks here

[pliant arrow]

I mean, with how little tank destroyers move, they might as well be playing a point and click tower defense

[balmy compass]

T-26

[empty helm]

It's a tractor

[dim pollen]

There r some fast moving TDs too. Example is stug. Why the TDs move less is to not give away their position.

Equip the camo net provision, shoot a tank from afar and just stay there. Don't move. U will not get spotted if u don't have any enemy tanks nearby

I always do tht with my rhm borsig. Despite having tht big booming gun I still stay undetected due to the camo provision lol

[pliant arrow]

Is the AT end goal a tank destroyer and is it faster than AT-2 ?

God the AT-2 is slow, not to mention if a fast tank starts looping behind you, your screwed

[empty helm]

#addanother183mmgunfor183b

[chrome harness]

AT8 is slower I think

[pliant arrow]

FFF-

[dim pollen]

The whole AT line is TD line. But they aren't fast. Idk what do u mean by fast. If u r expecting fast like light tanks then nope. Fast like heavy? Maybe

[chrome harness]

Death Star is fairly fast, like heavy

[dim pollen]

Yep. Thts where I told u abt noobs and pros lol

[pliant arrow]

By the time I climb the hill, half my team is dead and they have half cap in the flag

[chrome harness]

Yep I feel you bro

[dim pollen]

Use the speed booster and improved fuel

[pliant arrow]

Ok

[dim pollen]

Tbh, lower tier TDs aren't fun. German TDs are fun in lower tier though.

[pliant arrow]

Am I prepare to wade through hellwater and highfire ?

I didn't realise it cause over 1.000.000, I need to wait a bit

[dim pollen]

Don't spend ur fxp for buying new tanks. Save them to buy modules

[pliant arrow]

I bought all the modules

[dim pollen]

I'm talking abt the new tank u will buy. Sometimes the stock modules are not good so for tht u gotta be needing those free xp. Bcoz playing in stock is pain

[pliant arrow]

I see

[dim pollen]

Free xp is like a boon for f2p players lol. So never expend them to buy new tanks

[faint walrus]

is 40tp a good tank for tier 6 2v2 tournaments?

[crystal hare]

I wouldn’t know

I would suggest the team be Skoda T-25 and a quickly reloading heavy

[blissful osprey]

nah TOG better heheheheheheheheeheh

[acoustic galleon]

No. The ARL and VK are both better than it.

[faint walrus]

which vk?

[acoustic galleon]

VK 36

[solid gate]

Depends on the medium 🗿

[umbral hamlet]

depends on the medium, they're usually a combination of everything and it's very difficult to keep them balanced, which results in most of them being really good/meta in high tiers (8-10)

[opaque flicker]

People really dislike the Grizzly, but for a tier IV its overpowering, its fast, good damage and high penetration, good armor for a tier IV, and its HP is great

It gives great amounts of credits for a tier IV and it doesnt even look like a bad tank

[mystic sleet]

I agree

Actually, I didn't even know that a lot of people diliked the Grizzly

[boreal spruce]

apart fro mthe muzzle weight, which is slightly comical in appearance😂

[opaque flicker]

Lol yeah, short barrel but weirdly good accuracy

[boreal spruce]

💯

[misty wing]

Charles is the best tier 6 tank in the game no 🧢

[boreal spruce]

what about the jagpanzer or tog lol

[blissful osprey]

Yeh but Charles has cool-looking leg camo, so therefore it is the best TD

[boreal spruce]

true, it is gallant also

[dreamy osprey]

Let me say a random fact

[boreal spruce]

shoot, the floor is yours

[dreamy osprey]

Did you know that WG actually makes more than 3 PBRs each update? Its the Tier 6 tank they put in BP, but they won't update the regular Tier 6s to PBR level despite the PBRs available for them after months they put them in

A good example for this is the AMXmax, It has a PBR but the tech tree AMX 12t doesn't.

[boreal spruce]

who knew. wow, thats a good fact 👍 how many tier 6 pbr tanks are their now lol. probably the most PBR'ed tier

[dreamy osprey]

I dunno, try counting since the time they introduced PBR

lets say its been a year since they introduced PBR, we ignore april and then there's that Barkan since they didn't have a BP.
So there's atleast 6-10 tier 6 who have PBR model in existence as a BP tank but not in tech tree

[thorny smelt]

Jagdpanzer IV and Kryos:

[solid gate]

All chads know it’s KV-2 🗿

[violet timber]

Hellcat is the best TD, Light, and Medium in tier 6

[boreal spruce]

ooh hellcat is a pain. absolute pain to vs in a tier 5

[blissful osprey]

Scratch out the TD since it doesn't feel like it a lot of times.

[violet timber]

Well, it is really good at destroying tanks…

[boreal spruce]

hmmm🤔

[blissful osprey]

I feel I need to say this.

I was wrong about the Charles. I actually like it. Yes, stone me, arrest me, punish me in any way that you want. I like a TD.

[boreal spruce]

😱 😱 😱

[mystic sleet]

This server ain't big 'nough for two campers... pulls out a D. Max

[blissful osprey]

Uh...

Kanonenjagdpanzer 105 because yes

I also play my Charles aggressively.

[balmy compass]

Probably the best way tbh, it got decent armor

[blissful osprey]

The LFP is stronger than the UFP, which is pretty sweet.

[balmy compass]

It can confuse some people

[muted frost]

TV-8

[opaque flicker]

Looks like a TV had a VCR bug.

Now I'm worried, what happened to the other 7?

[muted frost]

I dont know what they look like its top secret prototypes

[misty wing]

is it just me or are T95 and Tortoise both underrated

[icy wadi]

Yes, these are hella underrated

[opaque flicker]

Wheres my Panzerjager I >:(

Wait, is it Elefant or Ferdinand?

Also if everything was accurately sized, this game would be a nightmare

[kindred wren]

It‘s both, they changed the name from Ferdinand to Elefant a while after it was first deployed

[pliant arrow]

Is the AT-line the slowest tanks there are ?

[rose musk]

they put the humans in the canon?

[opaque flicker]

Yes

[opaque flicker]

I actually prefer Elefant over Ferdinand

[solid gate]

am i the only guy that didnt got M41D?

[rose musk]

😳

[dim pollen]

Try the American TD line lol. U will feel the British TDs are faster

[rose musk]

a

[opaque flicker]

Stock engine T28 mod: 1 speed

[thin imp]

Stock T95

[thorny smelt]

Elefant has some modifications that differ from Ferdinand

Addition of MG 34 machine gun
Commander's cupola
Addition of Zimmerit paste
Thicker frontal armor
Wider tracks

[empty helm]

Yes

[copper swan]

how much thick

[empty helm]

I want AMX ELC

With 90mm gun

[blissful osprey]

thx, another 90mm at Tier V, what could go wrong? Surely not the already bashed up meta WeeGee hasn't bothered to rework.

[thorny smelt]

30 mm on the lower hull armor of the driver compartment

[plucky summit]

Better yet, they're adding a 105mm in tier 5 in 9.0 🙃

[dim pollen]

Lol it's dead slow

[blissful osprey]

smack

Oh dear.

[plucky summit]

Funny Mitsu 108, but it ain't 108mm ;-;

[thorny smelt]

Pz. IV H:

[plucky summit]

53mm pen with 410 damage per shot, that's what Mitsu boutta have

[thorny smelt]

AMX ELC bis with 90 mm D. 915 gun

The turret supposed to turn 360 with 75 mm guns but not with the 90 mm gun

[blissful osprey]

Is this the HE?

[thorny smelt]

Yes (RIP Nashorn and Grille 10)

[umbral hamlet]

yes

mistu has basically the Gargoyle's gun, but with bad gun depression, enormous size avarage armor and bad

[copper swan]

ah yes, another tank with 2 boobs on the hull like kv 5

[copper swan]

and alecto

[blissful osprey]

53mm, huh...

[nimble topaz]

HUH?

[blissful osprey]

Too many people ripping apart the ace bars in the Markow

[nimble topaz]

T^T

[mystic sleet]

An Elefant is a modified version of the Ferdinand, which includes a machine gun port next to the driver and additional armor plating

[thorny smelt]

Yes

[plucky summit]

#BlitzhangarHasItNow

[thorny smelt]

Chi-Se looks like Chi-To SPG or Ho-Ri Type I with a turret

[acoustic galleon]

Its based off of the Ho-Ri type II.

[thorny smelt]

Type 71 is the new Type 5 Heavy LOL. The armor is insane. Finally. A proper frontline heavy.

[plucky summit]

I declare the nickname of Chi-Se “Cheese”

Also the armor of Type 71 is completely tolerable

[thorny smelt]

Cheese camo when?

[plucky summit]

The lower plate and shoulder plates of Type 71 always weakens one another, so there’s always a weakspot to fire at

[spark basin]

i don't like how strong the type 71's lower plate is

[plucky summit]

It’s only due to angle, really, it requires the auto-ricochet mechanic to be effective

[thorny smelt]

Cupola:

[plucky summit]

Cupola isn’t angled enough, so it doesn’t rely on auto-rico

[thorny smelt]

That can be the weakness of the tank, along with the shoulders which makes the side-scraping somehow impossible

[plucky summit]

Precisely, again, it’s not even as silly as v4’s armor profile, you just gotta know that it’s never invincible

[thorny smelt]

Yessss

[crude dawn]

is IS-7 a good grind?

[limber rivet]

Yes it’s amazing!

[crude dawn]

ok

is it easy to play with for a 46% win rate like myself?

[limber rivet]

You will not necessarily enjoy the tanks before it but it’s totally worth it

[crude dawn]

ok

[limber rivet]

Win rate is not everything…I’m a 47 career win rate but my 30 day is better. Also it depends if you know how to use your armor

[crude dawn]

i know how to side scrape not more

[empty helm]

The line is painful

Like every other lines

[crude dawn]

by the way do anyone of you know where in this server to find a new clan? im new here srry

[blissful osprey]

#clan-search #clan-recruitment

[crude dawn]

thx

[empty helm]

Give atgm to mbt-70

[cyan spruce]

Is T29 better than M7Yoh?

I need answers please

[blissful osprey]

It is

[cyan spruce]

Ok

[wanton fjord]

How much is the mbt 70 legendary camo with the discount?

[toxic otter]

I got a first class there with 5.5k dmg and 1487 raw xp...

[toxic otter]

depends, M7 is more of a sidescrape support(like the whole line) T29 is a front line assault (like the whole line) differs on ur playstyle but I enjoy T29 more

[blissful osprey]

um

okay? You got a first class so yay?

[past fractal]

Chill

Before I got two aces on it at around 3.5k - 4k dmg (i forgot the exact numbers). It was played on supremacy, I capped some bases, and quite a bit of assistance damage

[blissful osprey]

yawn

[past fractal]

I think T49’s HE is a bit weak when it just does splash damage what do u guys think

[violet timber]

Don’t splash it then

[blissful osprey]

No, no, they've got a point because akshually it big big dumdum gun not enuff damaj so therfor must deel mor big damaj

[echo quarry]

friends which nationality tank destroyer is the good one in dmg

[acoustic galleon]

The Deathstar has the highest damage.

[pliant arrow]

Does Germany have any good medium or heavy tanks

[empty helm]

Is it worth it

[violet timber]

Yes. Both meds are good, and the Maus and VK72 are both good as well

[strange thicket]

the entire tree is pretty good except the jagpze100

[night citrus]

no

[balmy compass]

Does the TOG II have good armor?
Im thinking of buying it

[umbral hamlet]

not really, the tank itself is just a meme

[past fractal]

The armor is ok against tier 5s I guess

[cyan spruce]

Is VK 72 good or no

[hollow notch]

It doesn't depend. The t29 is far superior

[pliant pike]

Use sidescrap,maybe useful

[acoustic galleon]

Still gets penned in the turret easily.

[pulsar anvil]

Hello guys . What is the best tactic/ behavior in battle for Tiger 1 ?

[empty helm]

Hulldown

[mystic sleet]

The Jg pz is also very good, maybe not in mobility and dpm, but the armor, alpha and gun accuracy make up for it

[tall needle]

Me like Leopard A1A1/L44

[empty helm]

T28 proto turret really need an armor buff

[zinc smelt]

Can I remove a purchased attachment from a tank and put it on another tank if it's within the available options?

[solid gate]

I don’t think so

[faint walrus]

is st emil as good as the nashorn if you know how to play that type of td?

looking for a td to play ranked with

[dim pollen]

St Emil is a hulldown td and is good. Packs quite a punch @faint walrus

[dim pollen]

Best tactic? Use it as a medium heavy. Be on the move. Don't get caught stationary. It has good dpm and traverse speed. Use it. Lower tiers won't be able to hit ur frontal armor unless they load gold. Beware of TDs like su 100 and su 152. Don't expose ur side to them. Can get ammo racked easily.

Beware of light tanks too with drum mag. They can ammo rack u too.

Just be on the move. Peek and boom, angle, flank. U can farm 2k damage easily. If u r good in the game, 3k damage is not a big deal in tht tank.

[desert cedar]

Vk 30.01 P or Vk 36.01 H?

[boreal spruce]

ooh i like the vk30p

but the vk36 is a very stronk tank at tier 6💪

[desert cedar]

Yeah I’ve had issues against vk36 but at the same time the vk30p just looks cooler and it also has the ability to diverge down 2 different line instead of 1

[nimble topaz]

WHY?!??! amx 50b has no armor already and they still want to reduce it

oh dear... t100 lt got nerfed

[dim pollen]

I love the tiger 2 line. Frontal armor too strong. Tiger 1 is faster than tiger P. Vk 36 is one hell of a heavy. Tough to break.

[nimble topaz]

bruh this is madness... why they nerf amx 50b? T^T

[dim pollen]

Lol just paper armor things XD

[nimble topaz]

if my gameplay changes cause of these nerfs... im selling amx 50b which is my first tier 10 ._______.

[dim pollen]

Unless u really wanna play as a damage sponge i.e or well accustomed to back turret tanks i.e vk 72, don't take vk 30p line. Vk 100 will train u on maus playstyle.

I have played vk 90 p so I pretty much know how to use back turret front armor tanks. Try ur hands on such tank first and then proceed in tht line.

[dim pollen]

I can feel ya :/

[nimble topaz]

👀

[dim pollen]

So far I've just 2 tier X. One is E100 and another is vk 90p. Got the vk 90p without spending anything from an event but buying tht E100 took worth a cred grind. So I can't sell it and rebuy it. It's expensive. All tier X are expensive.

[nimble topaz]

thge single shot damage of 50b is 400 and 1200 if all shells are fired... if the single shot is nerf probably to 300... all 4 shells will still do 1200 O_O

[dim pollen]

Idk why they thought to nerf an already paper thin tank

[nimble topaz]

6MIL LOL... even t100 lt Lmao... im so close to t100 lt... i hope i can play it before update 9.1 cause i wanna feel op in the game lmao

[dim pollen]

Whts the nerf on t100lt?

[nimble topaz]

read #coming-soon

[dim pollen]

Lol just to get tht t100 I had started the Russian light line. I'm in MT25 now.

[nimble topaz]

lol rip ur still in mt 25

[misty wing]

it's a rework, not a nerf

[dim pollen]

Yeah. Big RIP to me lol. And it disheartened me to see tht "HP, DPM and hull armor gets worse" 🥲

[nimble topaz]

🤨

[misty wing]

idk how that looks like a nerf to you

[civic iron]

Well let’s hope it stops bouncing 183s

[dim pollen]

Lol

[scarlet kernel]

The lower armor of the turret is still thick enough so if you shoot wrong you'll bounce, i guess that's what they went for here

Like here it showed 260mm, not much but enough to bounce standard shells

Still, i don't like the nerf
I lowkey wanna try the 4th shell tho

[lyric oriole]

They are probably gonna nerf the alpha to 300

And it's going to be stupid

For some reason "Change how the tank is supposed to play" often means "we made such a significant change that doesn't effectively do anything but causes the vehicle survivability to tank"

[balmy compass]

I wonder what WG would do if they rework the Maus

[lyric oriole]

Give it more armor and less dpm

Or do a stupidly small change of buff the accuracy and nerf the penetration to 240

[balmy compass]

Well, I can definitely see that

The penetration is already pretty sucky for the Maus 💀 I gotta run cali so I can pen the E 100 consistently

[lyric oriole]

But you know how they love to give those adjustments

"We changed something technically"

After Shot Dispersion Changes

Maus: .08 -> .078

[solid gate]

Load pramo

[civic iron]

decreases aiming time by .4 seconds to an IS gun

[lyric oriole]

"Yeah cause the after shot Dispersion really hurts me with it's quick reload."

[lyric oriole]

This guy gets it

[balmy compass]

Thats with prammo, you cant pen the turret without prammo

[civic iron]

It’s a big difference I swear

[balmy compass]

“We decreased dispersion on the move because the Maus just goes so slow anyway people should hit their shots moving” 💀

[brave juniper]

Ever tried shooting the lower bar on the turret? Any tank can butter through it 🤔

[lyric oriole]

Or Medium changes

[scarlet kernel]

Ever tried hitting that in 200m away?

[kindred wren]

Ribble confirmed that it is 370 or 380

[balmy compass]

Its small and a little tough, but its easy to hit in a facehug

[lyric oriole]

M46 Patton Stock Turret 1550 -> 1600

M46 Top Turret 1600 -> 1650

[brave juniper]

WHY would u EVER be at 200m shooting any targets in a super heavy?

[balmy compass]

“We made the Maus faster because everyone said its too slow, in return the turret turn rate was reduced”

[civic iron]

Hm yes, so basically we uh increased the water crossing capacity by 8

[balmy compass]

“View range was reduced by 20”

[brave juniper]

Ngl if you're not facehugging or front line with maus then that gun is gonna make.u depressed

[lyric oriole]

NGL one of my favorite "buffs" is when they give a vehicle that has really bad Dispersion on Turret Traverse, an increase to turret traverse speed

[scarlet kernel]

You know those times where you are at the frontlines but the enemy decided they want to just go other directions, and you can't get there fast enough

[lyric oriole]

I'm like Yeah OK. Buff.

[brave juniper]

Yeah usually when that happens they're not looking at you or going backwards towards said direction though

[civic iron]

We buffed the krans dpm by 400 but decreased the turret and hull turn rate so now it can be circled by another heavy

[balmy compass]

Lol

[civic iron]

Or an even better one, we increased the accuracy by .04 and removed the reticle calibration consumable

[lyric oriole]

That won't happen

They are a bit too prideful to ever remove something

[balmy compass]

“Top speed was reduced to 25, however we added enhanced speed boost”

[lyric oriole]

It only took some serious lash back from the community to get Spare Parts gone

[civic iron]

Yeah they are, yet they still think that giving a heavily underpowered tank like the FV215B super consumables solved all of its problems

[brave juniper]

That pride only crumbled when a lot of YouTubers said f off to them and left BC of missiles, even then it took them months, that didn't bring back a whole lot of them though 🤣

[balmy compass]

I am confused as why VK 90 has reticle cali tho

[civic iron]

Because yes.

[lyric oriole]

It was supposed to give it a unique advantage at range especially with it's high pen

[brave juniper]

Idk guess doing td role with a super heavy would've been too hard otherwise 😳

[lyric oriole]

Unfortunately they just made a better Maus

[balmy compass]

True

[kindred wren]

If you mean missiles, they waited until the whole fuss calmed down and then came around the corner going like: „Hey, we thought a bit about Missiles and want to know what you think about them“

[brave juniper]

I was there, i was involved and i know the history, no words are needed, it was months of constant complaints lol

[civic iron]

The thing is dislike the most is when they made the Sheridan missile collectible they kept all of the buffs they made, which makes it so much less fun. imo they should have reverted the nerfs they made to missiles, at least to some extent to make it more fun

[kindred wren]

Fun fact, they didn‘t nerf the Sheridan‘s mobility because of missiles

[brave juniper]

Considering it's an event restricted tank i wouldn't mind if that were to happen really, the issue was how this affected the main game but fun games it really wouldn't bother me

[lyric oriole]

They don't want people getting salty again

They learned their lesson on missiles

[brave juniper]

Perhaps

[civic iron]

Exactly, the missiles should at least become more controllable again and have a little bit more range

[balmy compass]

Personally, even though I haven’t been around for missiles to exist in normal games, I would like having missiles in the game

[lyric oriole]

It would be cool to see T49 A come back as an event restricted tank as well

[kindred wren]

I think missiles would have worked if the T92E1 and Sheridan were missile only

[brave juniper]

👀 sign me in on that, though those slow as hell missiles with perfect aim were somewhat easy to avoid so i would change them for faster less accurate ones ngl

[lyric oriole]

They already were for experienced players

[balmy compass]

What about Kfpz 90

[civic iron]

Well I’m not sure about that, considering if you can launch a missile into the stratosphere and have it come hurtling back down to a player you right clicked on and went about your business

[brave juniper]

*70, never had them even though it's gun COULD carry them 😔

[kindred wren]

Not at all, nobody ever shot missiles in CQC or on extreme ranges

[lyric oriole]

Speak for yourself

[balmy compass]

Right Kfpz 70, but yeah I want missiles for that tank, you could trade the prammo for missiles if you swap the gun

[lyric oriole]

I know missiles were mostly loaded on mine

There was a point where it was no longer fun, didn't take long tbh

[kindred wren]

The reason why you wouldn‘t is because it’s extremely easy to dodge missiles with a fast tank in CQC and for long range the range simply wasn‘t sufficient

[brave juniper]

Yeah thinking back on it if you were not running 75%+ missiles and some HE then Sheri before heat was a bad tank lol, for some, for others it was 100% missiles

[kindred wren]

And even on medium range shooting a missile might be disadvantageous due to the reduced alpha and increased reload (due to flight time)

[lyric oriole]

Not if I'm ignoring cover

The primary reason

Otherwise I'm shooting APCR

[kindred wren]

Contrary to common belief missiles couldn‘t simply ignore cover

[lyric oriole]

Bruh

First hand experience as a user

They most certainly could

And it got pretty consistent

[brave juniper]

Do gotta say though, the ones capable of ignoring cover and making weird trick shots were either very skilled at it from other games that DID have missiles, or that spent millions of creds and time learning how to use em lol

[balmy compass]

Lets add Starship to the game with missiles 👍

[civic iron]

crawls behind one of those cardboard barns

[kindred wren]

The easiest is ridge lines, then come corners, and the most difficult ones are drop shots

Especially the latter were difficult shots, and with ridge lines you could usually counter peak. Simply facing missiles was often enough as well due to the lacking accurate aiming

[lyric oriole]

Shoots APCR through barn

[lyric oriole]

Drop shots are what I was best at

Corner shots were hard but I was starting to get them down right as they got removed

[civic iron]

Imagine Sheridan missile had special equipment for missile maneuverability and fuel time…

[lyric oriole]

They were probably on their way

[balmy compass]

That would be fitting for WG tbh

[brave juniper]

Don't give them unnecessary ideas

[civic iron]

Well it’s a tank for fun game modes so it wouldn’t be too unbalanced tbh

[kindred wren]

That‘s great for you but in the end drop shots, no matter how consistent you were at them, are still more risky than direct peeks and you essentially render yourself into a camper, limiting your battle impact

[lyric oriole]

Think about the stupid Shell velocity provision. I'm 90% certain that was a provision meant for missiles that got adjusted for normal guns

[kindred wren]

The shell velocity equipment did not affect missiles

[balmy compass]

Add that with supercharge 😂

[lyric oriole]

It does actually

Barely but it does

[civic iron]

Ooh, that’s actually a fairly good theory, but I’m fairly certain that was added way before missiles

[lyric oriole]

You get 9 more meters of range

[kindred wren]

That makes no sense so I will assume that‘s measurement inaccuracy

[lyric oriole]

Considering we have a range finder and missiles have 0 dispersion that's impossible

[kindred wren]

Well, to counter it I did my own tests and found no difference

[civic iron]

Get a better rock

[kindred wren]

I shot at destructible objects, as they confirm impacts

[lyric oriole]

I fired at Max range for normal missiles first and backed up a meter for each shot after

You can technically squeeze 10 meters but it's inconsistent

[kindred wren]

I literally stood just one meter further away than max range was, pulled the trigger and failed to destroy the object

I repeated that multiple times, then got to max range and instantly destroyed it

[civic iron]

It could be a good idea for missiles to have some splash damage when they run out of fuel and detonate, it could in a way compensate for the wasted shell and time

[lyric oriole]

So artillery

[brave juniper]

You mean like what if they actually worked like normal missiles?

[civic iron]

Pretty much, except a lower blast radius

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, let's compensate a skill issue

[civic iron]

The gun positioning really matters, because the slightest repositioning can cause the missile to use some range to correct its course

[lyric oriole]

Real skill is learning to dodge missiles though

[kindred wren]

It was well within the gun arc and I aimed straight at it without diversion

[brave juniper]

Me wiggling randomly so they hit that one red part of my tank 🤣 🤣 worked 60% of the time

[lyric oriole]

In that image I literally sidestepped at the last second in my 183

And I was in sniper mode lmao

[civic iron]

Just shove your spaced armor or tracks into the missile’s face

[brave juniper]

The one i always pulled was gun blocks though, it's fairly easy to gun block missiles since they were fairly slow

[lyric oriole]

Yes let me raise my tracks

[kindred wren]

I usually try to stick my gun/ gun mantlet into the flight path and drove sidewards. Or if I saw a missile launch I would just drive deeper into cover

[civic iron]

Considering your hp, you quite literally dodged death

[brave juniper]

Stb1 moment(irl)

[civic iron]

I mean if your tank has lots of spaced armor in a certain spot, you can either wiggle or expose that very spot to the missile

That is assuming the enemy doesn’t recognize you as an armored threat and has the missile travel so it hits your side

[balmy compass]

Hydraulic track system moment

[kindred wren]

I would often play missile hunting with a friend, basically we were running through the map, one hunting the other, and trying to hit missiles

[brave juniper]

Isn't that just normal TRs when missiles were around though, it was fairly common

[kindred wren]

Most of the time you can at least turn in enough to have a decent chance at facing it frontally

[kindred wren]

I wouldn‘t know, but it wouldn‘t surprise me either

[brave juniper]

It was fairly normal to do that

[civic iron]

You could, but the missile could turn too sharply not giving you enough time to react to it. Side shots are quite useful against a 72.01K, learned that from personal experience

[brave juniper]

It was pretty fun when u made drop shots or side shots on tanks with armor that doesn't have spaced armor or angled sides lol

[kindred wren]

The greatest issue I found with side shots is that if you also shoot over a ridge you have to steer in two axes, and also lose control once you lose line of sight

[civic iron]

I just aim my gun up as high as I can and have it at around a 45 degree angle. I fire and point, then the missile does its work

[brave juniper]

Before they fixed the aiming and made the missile lose control when aiming over an object is when they died for me though

[kindred wren]

This just made me remember the joke that was the T49A missile

Point and right click adventure on PC

[brave juniper]

Or the biggest joke when hackers/cheaters had that one mod to have the spectator POV while shooting missiles so they ignored the part where it goes crazy if u aim at an enemy and there's a wall/object 💀

[kindred wren]

„ArtyGM“, fitting name

Though it stopped making sense when they reduced the range and removed the ability to aim the missile if you lose line of sight

Generally I believe they limited the amount of commands you can give to a missile. Sometimes it would just stop responding

[brave juniper]

The LOS does make sense since theyre technically guided by laser the moment it hits anything else than the target the missile fr won't be hitting the target lol

[kindred wren]

If we went for realism the missile could barely turn because the sensors were very narrowly pointed forward, forcing you to have to pre-aim moving targets

[brave juniper]

Hmm if they did something like that i wouldn't mind it as long as the missile speed is increased

[blissful osprey]

I never really liked the missiles, tbh. I found them clunky. It's probably the one thing me and Droodles could ever agree on-the transition back to HEAT felt more like a buff than a nerf.

[safe cedar]

Foch 155 desperately needs a buff.

[safe cedar]

Its stupid a td has such shit handling, you can hardly hit the side of a maus at 50m.

[outer sand]

fr

[calm inlet]

not having missiles was definitely a buff for 99% of players

a nerf to the 1%

[solid gate]

Sheridian middle is cancer in gravity if you get hit 🤣

[blissful osprey]

by 99% you mean those who didn't play the Sheri, right?

[solid gate]

Those that were bad and didn’t play it

Cause people didn’t grind it 🗿

[blissful osprey]

Eh, I still hated using the missiles. The regular HEAT felt so much better tbh

[muted frost]

Rheinmetall Lynx 120

[solid gate]

Flat

Wargaming plis ad a czech heavy tanks pls

[solid gate]

Pretty sure VZ 55 or something coming

[acoustic galleon]

They should add the Italian heavies before the Czech ones.

[brave matrix]

they should add australian tanks first

[thorny smelt]

AC IV and AC I Sentinel:

[dreamy osprey]

Cent 5/1 Royal Australian Armoured Corps(RAAC) Dingo

[blissful osprey]

meh

There's something WeeGee could pull from their sleeves, and I want to see them do it.

[mystic sleet]

They should add another British heavy tank tech tree line before doing any of the above imho.

[blissful osprey]

What exactly will they put in there? More autoloaders because to hell with it we can?

[past fractal]

T 95 FV4201 Chieftain

[mystic sleet]

Hopefully not. Maybe they could put another Chieftain version. Or they can just make something up, just like you said. Besides, there are plenty of Chieftains out there in the real world. Maybe we could get a Chieftain which would differ from the Mk. 6 by having more turret and hull armor, but slightly worse mobility.

I know that a version of that Chieftain exsited, I just can't remember it's name

[blissful osprey]

So, basically, we take an already decent tank and make it excessively better.

[mystic sleet]

Yes

[umbral hamlet]

what about
no.

[crude dawn]

Is 3800 battels enogh you think?

[blissful osprey]

Definitely not.

[crude dawn]

yeah my english bad

Is it the same playstyle as some of the britsh T10?

[mystic sleet]

Why not? Even the newest tech tree (European nation) has more heavy tanks than the British one. Germany has three of them. The American tech tree has two of them. The USSR tech tree has two of them. It only leaves France, Japan, Great Britain and China without at least two heavy tank tech tree lines. Japan probably won't be getting a second heavy tank tech tree line due to the fact that there are probably the only other heavy tank Japan has is the Type 5 heavy, and it isn't coming to the game for obvious reasons. Idk what to say about France, and China is a mix of other nations and reverse engineered Soviet tech. On the other hand, there are no excuses to put at least another heavy tank tech tree in the British tech tree, even if there's only a tier ten in that line (although it wouldn't be too much of a line then I guess).

[blissful osprey]

I'm done

[crude dawn]

I have all the british tanks so i dont know mutch about other nation tanks

ok so it hard to play?

ok

[pliant arrow]

Oh my god why us there a tank faster than a bike

[umbral hamlet]

almost every tank in the game is faster than a bike

[pliant arrow]

At-8

[mystic sleet]

At-2

[umbral hamlet]

excluding fv183 line and German superHTs

[mystic sleet]

Almost said Jgpze100, but that thing can go 30 km/h

[pliant arrow]

What

How the hell do you think they move ?

Bikes. Bikes, not bicycles.

There's a tank that was zooming as fast as a bike

[misty wing]

Using bike for motorbike or motorcycle is slightly too slang for a conversation like this imo. I definitely would've interpreted it as bicycle as well

[empty helm]

Should I do it

[acoustic galleon]

No. Don't spend gold.

[thorny smelt]

No

[misty wing]

"Don't spend gold" is pretty terrible advice, but yeah don't do that especially if you're f2p

[past fractal]

Yea

[empty helm]

:(

[violet timber]

Short answer: no. Long answer: no.

[past fractal]

Yes do it

Its just 40 gold
What can go wrong

[violet timber]

And 68k free xp that could be used to get the next tank.

[faint walrus]

which is better lttb or ltg?

[violet timber]

It a better to spend gold on a premium tank as well

@faint walrus LTTB

[faint walrus]

why?

[violet timber]

LTTB is an absolutely ballistic tank that goes fast, bounces too much, and has a gun that just works. The LTG just doesn’t have the same qualities that make the LTTB good and fun

LTG is slower, has less effective armor, and it’s gun just doesn’t make up for that

[scarlet kernel]

T34-3 fun or no?

[violet timber]

Just get a T-34-2. Unless you really like the 34-2, then get the Chimera instead because it’s just better

[scarlet kernel]

I don't ask if it is better.
I ask if it's fun to play

[umbral hamlet]

only in mad games

[violet timber]

If you’re looking for fun, just get the 34-2. It’s basically the same tank

[scarlet kernel]

So more credits 34-2? Got it

[violet timber]

And as a plus, the 34-2 isn’t forced into using the big gun, you can switch it up if you get bored

[faint walrus]

thanks

[empty helm]

Someone said use free exp for modules and not tanks

[pliant pike]

I need KV 5

[violet timber]

Honestly, it was about 6 am when I answered this and I had just woken up. Yes, free xp is for modules, but play one game in the tank and get enough xp for the gun instead of spending gold

[thorny smelt]

Wait when it is out. Also, you need 5.5K gold to buy one.

[river jacinth]

Soviet Bias they said

But you're using an IS-5 :moyai:

[faint light]

and kv-13 to have all "kv" series

[violet timber]

KV-1S

[solid gate]

Get rid of the M41d ON china is ON taiwan!!!

[blissful hamlet]

Chill, there's a reason called china, that's why it is a chinese tank

[torpid lagoon]

They can't or the CCP will have a Hissy Fit

[hollow sequoia]

why even care about historical accuracy when a 1975 mbt can fight against german ww2 blueprint tanks

[rigid thunder]

godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and died

[umbral hamlet]

xd, what about we get rid of Russian ranks all together then? XDD

[strange thicket]

they do that and they lose access to the chinese market :P

[empty helm]

Nah they want +5 social credits

[violet timber]

KV-220t

[dim pollen]

Somebody help me with amx elc bis (bs for me)

[calm patio]

how is IS-7

[balmy compass]

strong

[calm patio]

should i grind Is line or kv

[balmy compass]

the IS line is better and easier then the KV line

[calm patio]

affirmative

[ebon tide]

did i the is-7 or maus get affected by update 8.2? if so, how?

[brave juniper]

8.2? Was that the PBR update? If not then uh no, if it was then yes is7 got a whole lot stronger all of a sudden and maus was nerfed in a previous update before that along with is4, kran E5 and a few other tanks from a previous "meta" 🤔

[ebon tide]

How bad was the nerf for the maus?

[brave juniper]

150 HP and some gun dispersion

[ebon tide]

I never got what gun dispersion meant. But as for the HP, that isnt too bad.

[pallid flame]

Gun accuracy

[still cave]

Someone explain please how this HE shot did penetrate the AE Phase I ?!? I was just HE splashing in T92E1 so I would do something and somehow this shot went through on the front of the turret. Like WTF

[balmy compass]

whenever HE splashes it puts a hole as if it penned

[plucky summit]

But they dealt full damage, that's the question

[balmy compass]

you may have also triggered some skill with increased pen chance so it penned anyway

[plucky summit]

That skill did not trigger

[balmy compass]

well uh, RNG then?

[plucky summit]

It's amazing, really

[thick trout]

Looks like you need to buy a lottery ticket today ;)
The hitmarks tend to be pretty inaccurate and not worth trusting, you can upload the replay to mapinspector then send that specific shot to armour inspector to see exactly what the server thinks happened.

[plucky summit]

Does it require the money money? I can do it for them :p

[balmy compass]

so you hit that tiny plate below the mantlet 💀

[still cave]

no way I hit that tiny weakspot lol thx for the answers all

[plucky summit]

Send me replay in DMs :p

[balmy compass]

do shell marks always appear when you get hit?

[plucky summit]

Yes, but some can be misplaced or stuck on a module

[thick trout]

Shell marks are also all done client side so only reflect what's shown visually on your device, not what actually happens on the server as well as using a different hitbox I think?

[valid gale]

I have about 3 images of having a penetration hit mark and no damage 1st being a direct hit ontop of E5 roof and not even hitting a viewport

[plucky summit]

I got the thing

It doesn't show the right shooter but it shows where you hit ;)

@still cave

[still cave]

amazing, at least some RNG luck today 🥲

[thick trout]

I'm not sure, if you don't have the full version it might be possible to still see the shot just with a locked camera but it should be kinda easy enough to see from the trajectories where it would have hit.

Also armour inspector isn't 100% accurate, I can't explain why it's wrong but I have a screenshot somewhere of a "100% pen" shot from armour inspector that bounced in game, and mapinspector knows it bounced

[plucky summit]

I know one bug, but it’s only a highlighting issue

[still cave]

thanks for looking into this @plucky summit and @thick trout

[plucky summit]

👍

[thick trout]

Ah here it is, and helpfully answering my own question that you can view shots without spending money at the same time

[plucky summit]

Well, the camera's just not locked for peeps who paid, like mine

[thick trout]

Imagine paying 🤮

Hides recent transactions

[plucky summit]

I think the funny thing about that shot is that it could have use the bottom of the gun mantlet to rico onto the deck, but it hit that 50mm plate anyways

[thick trout]

I don't particularly think there's anything funny about it :'(
But I bet the Vickers did lol
By the model armour inspector has there's no reason it shouldn't have penned which is very very interesting because normally armour inspector is pretty reliable

[plucky summit]

Oh I mean the AE shot

[thick trout]

Oh the AE one yeah that makes it even more impressive than somehow penning

[plucky summit]

If you somehow can get the file, I can see your POV for you on that shot

[plucky summit]

I use the website, wotinspector

[balmy compass]

the app for mobile is called: armor inspector

[opaque flicker]

Imagine a KV-2 with the caliber of a sturm and armor of a maus

Talk about tanks from hell

I want to draw that now.

[shell robin]

I know a tank like that

[opaque flicker]

What is it?

I wanted to draw something like.. KV-2 turret is much longer due to the caliber, 4 tracks, as long as a tog II*, and did like 1200 average damage with AP

[kind flicker]

literaly like a kv5 but a biger gun

[opaque flicker]

And its German

Wait a minute

Wait a minute yall, theres actually a tank missing from the game, a variant to the panzer I

It was a tank that had the same armor thickness as the usual Soviet KV tanks, it was used to clear mines off of fields

And it was fat

[balmy compass]

technicly this game is missing alot of tanks

[opaque flicker]

So what if I made my own fan game but with every single WWII tank to ever exist? How chaotic would that be?

[valid gale]

Nothing new

[opaque flicker]

We'll see about that

Alright, well I'm gonna go ahead and take some coding courses, see yall later

[blissful osprey]

“Oh, another tank game? What about it? Oh it has complete tech trees, I see. Eh, aside from an interesting 7 variations of the Sherman in the American tech tree alone (sounds like another game, tbh) I don’t see anything captivating!”

[opaque flicker]

What's the point of playing a game if everything is the same over and over again 🗿

You gotta have a manipulative environment, cool sounds, nice music, fun gameplay, and perfectly balanced vehicles

Like, shoot the ground with an HE and boom, a small hole in the ground

[plucky summit]

Well it sure probably won’t be mobile like Blitz

[opaque flicker]

Oh definitely not, unless theres a way we can change graphics to fit mobile

Like the 3d hole turns into a 2d texture to reduce lag

And by the way, the only reason theres variations of the same tank is because different guns. turrets, and engines are mounted into the vehicle, variations of tanks aren't completely separate, they're the same tank but with different modules

[plucky summit]

A system WG gracefully implemented

[opaque flicker]

Didnt war thunder do that first?

[valid gale]

What fun would you get having to grind for a variant that has slightly better stats though

[opaque flicker]

Grinding will take less time, and be more enjoyable

[valid gale]

Then that wouldn’t be much of a point for multiple variants if you can just grab the best one within 5 matches

[opaque flicker]

Not that fast, let's say.. 25 matches for one upgrade, depends how good you due per match, how much you helped your team and how much damage you took

[plucky summit]

Too grindy I guess

[valid gale]

So if I wanted better ammo I’d have to play non stop and hope teams don’t slow down any progress or if I wanted a variant with a better turret also hope for such

[opaque flicker]

Shells will be cheaper, and there will be more than 3-4 variants of shells, all with their own penetration stats and damage stats

The game will also be in more depth, having to upgrade ventallation, hull armor, turret armor, the main engine, and how large your ammo rack is

[valid gale]

That sounds pay 2 win

[opaque flicker]

Larger the ammo rack, the higher the chance of an explosion

[blissful osprey]

That's really what this supposed "fan game" is really going to be. You'll be re-hashing a quintillion different variants of the Sherman, the Churchills, T-34s, and various what-not. It's like WT, but 88% less content since everything is restricted to just WWII ground-based combat.

[opaque flicker]

Atleast my games wont have a tank called the BLTZ9000, that looks like it came from 2200

[blissful osprey]

I mean, it looks cool

[opaque flicker]

Yeah that is true

[valid gale]

I mean it’s open top and doesn’t have anything special so kinda weird to complain about it

[blissful osprey]

It's listed as an MT, oddly enough.

[opaque flicker]

But having a bunch of premiums vs normal tanks is a odd concept, considering there is nearly atleast 2-3 premiums every round I play

[plucky summit]

It’s also funny with 284mm of CS HEAT pen

[opaque flicker]

The point of premiums are to be stronger than normal tanks, that completely unbalances the whole game concept

[valid gale]

In theory no and paper no

[opaque flicker]

F2P players like me struggle with rounds specifically because we have to fight premium tanks

[plucky summit]

Premiums are supposed to offer unique playstyles as well as be profitable

[valid gale]

And three no premiums originally were specifically stated to be inferior to tech tree counterparts but this has not held well over the years the original tier 8 prems were examples of this is6 and T34 had a lot of goodies but weaknesses to their tech tree brothers along with Lowe and such

[opaque flicker]

Make it profitable, not to ruin everyone elses fun

[plucky summit]

Remember that this is a business, not many people want a premium when they can get a better tank for free

[opaque flicker]

I'm not doing this for money

[plucky summit]

WG is, that’s my point.

[opaque flicker]

Exactly, I'm a one man developer, I'd have to go up against an entire company

[valid gale]

Well the plan you were describing sounded like a hell inevitable power creep fest cash grab rather than the system wg has in place

[opaque flicker]

Balancing every tank so nobody has to be obliterated in a few shots by a premium is a cash grab?

My game wont even have premium tanks

[blissful osprey]

I mean, you can get obliterated in a TT all the same, which isn't much of a crash grab....

[valid gale]

You were literally saying players could upgrade their statistics and grind for better parts plus kept mentioning the ammo rack has an unusually high chance to explode despite how counterintuitive it would be to a formula like this

[opaque flicker]

I never said what the chance of an ammunition rack explosion was, the smaller the rack which can hold around 25 shells, like a 2% chance, 50 shells and it has a 7%

[blissful osprey]

That's way too much. I don't want to be playing a continuous amount just to up-armor the engine deck or anything

[opaque flicker]

And thats with the chance you manage to hit the rack of an enemy, so rack explosions are pretty rare

[valid gale]

I mean implied it

Also would defeat the point of multiple variants if you can just come up a build that’s good enuf then the best variant anyways

[opaque flicker]

Again, variants are by modules, variants are not different tanks

[valid gale]

That’s literally what tank variants are

[opaque flicker]

What is a PZ I?

[valid gale]

Panzer 4 A panzer D panzer G

[blissful osprey]

So basically, we stick to the same tank throughout our gameplay, only switching when a massive change has to be visible?

[opaque flicker]

Theres a variety of PZ I with thicker armor, it's the same tank with the sole purpose of getting rid of mines

[valid gale]

And I assume it has no weapons? And it’s the one with the two massive wheels isn’t it

[opaque flicker]

No, fully upgrade your tank, and you get the next tank, the exact same as WOT

[opaque flicker]

No, same tank, just thicker hull armor and tracks

[valid gale]

You literally said you can upgrade the armor and engine separately a feature which is heavily present in p2w dominant mobile games

[opaque flicker]

You upgrade your engine in WOT dont you?

[valid gale]

By upgrading you mean researching the next in line? Rather than dumping money on it

[blissful osprey]

Um, okay... so you can't really have all the tanks from WW2, since half of those are "variants" of a base design. It just sounds a lot like someone tried to fuse WoT and WT together, which is probably the last thing anybody would want.

[opaque flicker]

Yes, yes, you dont dump money on it, you work for it, that's what im trying to say

[opaque flicker]

The point is that rounds arent the same thing over and over again, doesnt it get tiring fighting a bunch of the same tanks with some premiums shoved in there just so you can get the next module?

[valid gale]

Then there’s no point overall to a variant system if you can just upgrade to different modules

[blissful osprey]

No, not really. It gets tiring when the team is stupid, not when I'm fighting broken stuff. Sure, it may be a bit frustrating, but a team that falls apart easily is worse.

[opaque flicker]

Variants ARE modules, changing the module changes the stats and name of the tank by designation

[opaque flicker]

Heres something, let's say a player is afk for 1 minute of the round, they'll be kicked and replaced by a bot to atleast help the team a little bit, if they leave mid-round then the same thing happens

[blissful osprey]

Is that even possible unless there's respawns?

[plucky summit]

Then they can leave and be replaced by bots that are better than them anyways 💀

[opaque flicker]

No they're just kicked from the round, a bot continues to control their tank

[blissful osprey]

That sounds a lot like a lot of security issues could arise from that

[opaque flicker]

No I'll purposely make it so you receive much less from the round if it's a victory, plus the bots will be smart yet will be coded to miss some shots to equal that of a player

[opaque flicker]

It really isn't, their account isnt invaded or anything, let's say it's like a Tesla, no driver no problem

[plucky summit]

Dw it was a joke

[opaque flicker]

Oh, I'll still go forward with it

Bigger maps and 11v11 rounds, 22 players fighting

Atleast I would care for the Nintendo switch version

[violet timber]

And I've had enough of this chat, back to Sprocket I go

[blissful osprey]

Yes, yes, shoo or somethin

[violet timber]

Fine, I'll take my super panther and go away

[opaque flicker]

Alright I'm actually gonna start working on it in a few months, let's say 5? And I might be done in 3 or 4 years when everything is polished :/

[blissful osprey]

Ye, shoo and hang out with your "Sooper Panther" or whatever it is that you do.

[opaque flicker]

Soup panther 💀

[violet timber]

I have created some cursed looking pike-nosed tanks as well

[opaque flicker]

Oh no, what did you do?

[blissful osprey]

Hey, wait, don't make them show us...

[violet timber]

Obj. 996

[blissful osprey]

Eh.

Pennable turret cheeks, massive LFP, etc. That turret looks cramped.

[past fractal]

Looks like a budget 252u tbh

[livid vale]

It still looks beautiful

[blissful osprey]

Not really

[violet timber]

It gets around 240 effective across the entire front, 212mm of pen with a 125mm gun, and a p/w of 26.8

[fast compass]

They lost polygons on that one

[livid vale]

If that was a reply to me then it is a (opposite of smart) comment

[opaque flicker]

I like it

[blissful osprey]

To each their own, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I daresay I find it ugly.

[violet timber]

Thank you

[livid vale]

Beauty is preference, therefor my comment is not wrong

[opaque flicker]

What would an OBJ. 1000 look like?

[blissful osprey]

Anything you'd want it to be

[livid vale]

yes sir

[opaque flicker]

Wait it doesn't exist?

[violet timber]

I've got this weirdo which I haven't come up with a name for yet

[livid vale]

There is no obj 1000

[opaque flicker]

Obj. 998

[blissful osprey]

Looks like an LT

[violet timber]

It's actually heavier than the 996

[livid vale]

Probably will be like tvp

[blissful osprey]

The heck

[opaque flicker]

So my game so far doesn't seen to be too liked at the moment, what if I added a fully customizable garage where you can add anything to your tanks and make it look cool?

[violet timber]

It's 75 tons, 22.2 hp/t, 115mm gun with 222mm of pen

[livid vale]

You can add mods, but you need steam

[opaque flicker]

Nono, for my game

[livid vale]

75 tons is as heavy as IS7

[opaque flicker]

I'm making a game with tanks in it

[blissful osprey]

It designed better, tbh. The armor profile is rather good imo

[violet timber]

The 996 is 4 tons

@blissful osprey it's also exceeding the internal space meaning it's not truly viable

[livid vale]

Obj 257

[blissful osprey]

What internal space?

[violet timber]

Sprocket uses a measure of internal space to tell you if everything like your crew, and shells, and engine all fit

[opaque flicker]

I got a question

[violet timber]

The lovely TV-091-ABP

[opaque flicker]

Is there any tank that looks scarily similar to the modern abrams?

[violet timber]

Like any tank that I've made?

[opaque flicker]

Uhh sure

[blissful osprey]

Looks small

[violet timber]

I got this

@blissful osprey It is kinda small, but the armor isn't half bad

[opaque flicker]

God it does look similar

[blissful osprey]

Looks like a Predator tank for some reason. I'd play CnC if it wasn't for the fact I suck at RTS

[solid gate]

Ngl looks like a obj 84

[cobalt aspen]

visual is similar to obj 780 from wot pc

[violet timber]

I just so happen to love that style of Soviet tank

[oak pecan]

The 53TP in real life: the first two are the guns planned for use on the tank, and the last ones are the blueprints used for the design. All of these information you can easily find lmao

[cobalt aspen]

wow

[oak pecan]

@violet timber #STA-1isBad

[violet timber]

#YouAreWrongDealWithIt

[oak pecan]

#StopCappingItIsBadUnlessYouAreLikeOPAtTheGame

[violet timber]

#YouGotMeI'mANoob

[blissful osprey]

#WhyAreWeTalkingLikeThis

[oak pecan]

#IDK

[cobalt aspen]

Will these tanks come to the blitz?
WZ-114 IX
Bofors Tornvagn VIII
Caliban VIII

[thorny smelt]

Caliban is an autoreloader with 8-second intraclip reload for a 6-inch 950 AP HEP gun and almost 3K DPM. This thing is scary.

[balmy compass]

Another WZ heavy… another Chinese IS clone

[cobalt aspen]

could be tier X 🤔

[thorny smelt]

Or a tier 9. FV215b or Super Conqueror levels of armor with the same gun but a bit lower reload time for each shell.

[cobalt aspen]

it's practically a kv2 in tier 8, it could come without the autoloader and with slightly reduced damage (something similar to T49)

[thorny smelt]

Oh. 560? The main ammo though is HEP (US version of HESH) with 950 damage and 180 mm penetration. Its premium ammo is 6-inch SAP that deals 650 damage with 292 mm penetration.

[cobalt aspen]

Yes, he could even come with this AP damage (640 to be exact), and Hesh could be something between 700/800 damage, just balance the Reload

[thorny smelt]

I could agree on the 560 SAP premium ammo and 640-800 HEP ammo and like 16-18 second reload and 9-second interclip.

[cobalt aspen]

hmm these stats are interesting, now you have to see how much DPM it would have, (considering the middle and heavy Tier 8 can't exceed 2 thousand)

[thorny smelt]

Some heavies have over 2K DPM at tier 8 like the AMX M4 49 and Caernarvon AX. Caliban at tier 8 with almost 3K DPM would insane and compete with Caernarvon (tech tree one). Perhaps a little bit over 2K DPM close to Mauschen or lower like 1.9K DPM of VK 168.01 P

[cobalt aspen]

Caliban's Weapon (sketch):

Reload Clip: 23,00sec.
Inter-Clip reload: 9,2sec.

DPM: 2161
AP damage: 580/725 Pen: 292mm

DPM: 2571
HESH damage: 690/863 Pen: 180mm

aim and precision just give Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V from Wot PC

I believe that these stats would be his cannon in Blitz

[thorny smelt]

Reload clip: 16 sec/18 sec with Vents

[past fractal]

Unpopular opinion:

Hori T.II (tier 9) is better at holding and stopping pushes than Hori T.III (tier 10)

[fast compass]

Caliban is just too much for balance in blitz honestly. Even with these stats, it'll do 1500 roughly with two peeks 9 seconds apart. While having a turret. 180mm base hesh pen is sufficient for tier 8 as it is. And you'll run cs anyways

[thorny smelt]

A medium bully that Chimera feared

[boreal spruce]

lol tornvagn is just a concept 1b,
and the caliban is just a conway/bourassqe hybrid.
both tanks are good.

[empty helm]

Pls nerf kv-1s speed and buff turret armor

[blissful osprey]

Um, why?

[empty helm]

Its turret cheek armor suck

[blissful osprey]

Well, you sorta try to peek in it anyways.

[rotund wave]

Please restore the ISU152 Howitzer ML-20S gun Sound cuz it Sound like I'm firing a 105mm gun on a Heavy tank

[mystic sleet]

Agreed. It has better armor and more gun depression

[umbral hamlet]

it's not unpopular, it's a fact

[neon hedge]

They buffed kv1s reload awhile back and left out the thunder so i mean

[opaque flicker]

I'm looking for the T18 HMC blueprints, what happened to them? I can't seem to find a single one

Like the real blueprints, not ingame, it was a real tank, wheres the blueprints?

[umbral hamlet]

you mean IRL blueprints?

[opaque flicker]

Yes

Every tank has its blueprints

[umbral hamlet]

idk, i never looked for them

[opaque flicker]

I need all these blueprints for the game I'm making and the T18 HMC is a blueprint that's really needed in the game, without it there would be a whole tech tree missing

[trail orchid]

Anyone know if there are plans to bring the Swedish Bofors torvagn to blitz ,looks a decent tank

[mystic sleet]

It's basically a Concept 1b withoug the gun accuracy, honestly I kind of don't want to see that thing running around the battlefield

[blissful osprey]

Gee, thx for another potentially broken tank at Tier VIII, we'll have to add that to our collection of broken Tier VIIIs... Oh, we need another shelf. And we already have 5. Hm... what could this mean? (This message has totally been sanctioned by the Most Holy Church of Hulldown)

[blissful hamlet]

Simple, the TII has a unpennable upper plate

[trail orchid]

I haven't had a big dive in to it's stats but just liked the first impression , especially the armour

[blissful osprey]

Yeah, yeah, VIII got upended yet again, so what, you got your dumb Sweden HT in the end.

[empty helm]

WG should prevent players from playing premiums in rating battles 🤓 🤓 🤓

[mystic sleet]

Something I am guilty of and something I agree with

[blissful osprey]

Something that sounds stupid, and something I shall be against.

[winter inlet]

Dm me if u wanna play together

[woven ravine]

Sell super Hellcat

[strange thicket]

it is exactly not stupid
ratings should be a display of skill
OP premium tanks carrying and compensating for skill shouldn't be a thing. especially when they have restricted access
on the other hand op or strong techtrees are acquirable by everyone so it is fine

[mystic sleet]

Agreed. Nobody should be allowed to run a Smasher or an Anhiliator or a Dracula or any of theese "historically accurate" premium tanks. It should just be tech tree versus tech tree, a display of skill and tactics.

[brave juniper]

Guess the HP bar below the tanks are historically accurate too, or the crew magically reviving, the invisible gnomes fixing your tracks, etc. All that shouldn't be allowed in ratings if we include "historically accurate" in an argument

A true display of historical skill and tactics without any of those

[past fractal]

Something tells me the tanks themselves can also directly control the tracks and their repairs, which includes the absurd speed of their turning and maneuvering and stuff

[empty helm]

Why won't wg add a premium tank tech tree
It will be so balance

[brave juniper]

Then that wouldn't be a premium, just a tech tree 🤔

[past fractal]

Imagine a tier 1 premium for 130 gold, then the tier 10 it has costs 70k gold with no discounts

In exchange, the tier 10 can shoot BFG 9000 rounds, and it can convert itself to a person that is apparently a hellwalker

[brave juniper]

💸

[past fractal]

Also just a bonus the tier 8-10 in this tech tree also has heavy metal as its bgm

I think I’m watching too much doom sorry

[mystic sleet]

I think that you are talking about realism more than historical accuracy. Sure, while those things don't exist irl, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be included in the ratings. I mean, if Realistic has all of those features, and it's supposed to be realistic, I don't see why they couldn't be put in a game mode like ratings. The only things that would be taken away would be the historically "accurate" and made up tanks.

[hollow gazelle]

But then everyone will just play the op tech tree tanks

[mystic sleet]

Yes, and then those tanks will get balanced unlike premium and colector's tanks. And it will force more people in grinding actual tech tree lines instead of just throwing entire bank accounts at wg and get in the Diamond league

[empty helm]

Fix
Btw the bugged modules are vk 72 modules

[strange thicket]

as if they already don't play only op tech tree and premium tanks in high ratings?

[empty helm]

Comparison

[vernal sail]

I love the Sherman so much that I unironically bought it 5 different times

[copper swan]

so you sold it 5 times
this is how much you hated the sherman?

[oak pecan]

I figured WG would add more fictional tanks, and give them fictional 'historical' backgrounds?

I hate myself so much that I bought a T10 and sold it and bought it again and sold it again and then I bought two T9s and sold both of them and sold them instantly and now I have no credits.

Just ammoracked a 1HP Nashorn with a KV-2. Thats what I call 'overkill'.

[past fractal]

More like “shoved it”

[oak pecan]

ye lol

[zinc seal]

53 TP Markowski or CCP in real life actually is a fake

[oak pecan]

Eh, you can say that. These are just some random crap images I found online.

[zinc seal]

The pictures of this tank you gave, i.e. the sketches, are currently considered a fake, and this has been proven a long time ago.
By the way, I recently found a picture with 2 tanks, but I don't know if they would be suitable for the wot blitz, I can show them.

[valid gale]

Why the hell would you do this

[oak pecan]

cuz i hate myself

[zinc seal]

Full Photo, it s original photo, source https://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/duze-zdjecie-ludowe-wojsko-polskie-4-i5880769750.html

And tanks

T-54 and another tank probably with 107 mm gun

There are Poles in the photo, you can recognize them even by their berets, and all vehicles belong to the People's Army of Poland, the photo is dated to the 1980s, and both tanks are probably prototypes from the 1960s or 1970s.
If anyone would like to, they can be reconstructed.
You can tell if these tanks are suitable for the wot blitz, maybe for the Polish MT line.

[violet timber]

Seems to just be T-54/55s

[zinc seal]

Look closely at the turret of the last tank, even the T 55 did not have such a turret.

[violet timber]

It’s so pixelated I can’t even tell it’s a tank

[ivory ocean]

lmfaoo

[violet timber]

Also a 107mm gun is not a reasonable claim, seeing as nobody was making a 107mm at the time

[zinc seal]

Because the strict photo was small 175x175, so I took a screenshot and cut the photos for it, then I took a close-up of these tanks with my phone, but I can undoubtedly say that they are some prototypes because I was looking at it before.
these tanks and I analyze them, the turret of the second tank is made differently than in the standard T 54 or T 55, in addition, the tank is wider and has a longer gun than in the T 54 or T 55, probably only some parts, such as road wheels, can be derived from the T 54 or T 55.

[violet timber]

The T-54/55s had multiple different turrets made for them, all with different shapes. On top of that, tanks like the T-55AM has additional armor added onto it.

These tanks are almost certainly T-54/55s

I’d also say this is a T-55 with a cover over the turret

Anything else is too low quality for me to comment on

[solid gate]

ita ferdinand , no mg port so its yea.. not elefant.

[brave matrix]

the what?

[dim pollen]

Happens lol. I hate it when some cowards start capturing and win the game without scoring any hits

[violet timber]

You gotta play the game. They won fair and square, gotta keep an eye on the cap

[kind flicker]

everyones dead yet they lost

[dim pollen]

Yep. Thts wht I said. Capping is the most coward way to win the game

[balmy compass]

supremacy moment

[valid gale]

You had 5 Ally’s alive and not one thought to cap points?

[violet timber]

Who cares how you win? You won. It doesn’t matter how it happens. You see pros winning on cap all the time in blitz cup

[valid gale]

In that case of the image they actually lost

[violet timber]

It’s still stupid to say that capping is a cowardly thing to do

[valid gale]

It really is more so like I just pointed out they have their whole team still alive and somehow lost to cap

[violet timber]

Especially with 3 of the 5 living tanks being meds, and the one heavy being a heavium

[nova hull]

Icebreaker Experience

[violet timber]

Skill issue

[nova hull]

I got like nearly 2k DMG every battle that i lost

[dim pollen]

My ISU 152 just ammo racked one WZ 112-2 gaining 1902 dmg. Hit him on the back of its turret.

Idk how I scored highest dmg in this bs tank. The reload speed is slow despite being a light tank, armor is obvious shitty, turret isn't fully rotatable....sigh. Just goes Yolo from one point of the map to other

[pallid flame]

imagine swearing

[violet timber]

The ELC bis is amazing

You’re tiny, fast, and have good alpha for a light at the tier

[dim pollen]

Sigh. Alpha is good but tht 8 second reload eats my nerves quickly

[balmy compass]

its a pretty good reload tbh

[violet timber]

You’re small, just peek, shoot, then run

[dim pollen]

Yep trying to do tht.

I bonked onto a T49 using IS from a height in canal. He was heading to decap. Sucked out 300 hp lol. He was camping since the beginning hence he deserved it

I have the highest damage of all players and still I lost creds. Hmmm.

[strange thicket]

that is because that doesn't matter when it comes to credit earning

[solid gate]

I love the MT-25 penatration

[plucky summit]

I don't think it's the pen you're loving my guy

[solid gate]

It is, I love slapping thier ammo rack

[plucky summit]

That has only a minimal relation to penetration 🤨
It's the 3rd worst t6 light pen

[solid gate]

Hm, yet I can still hit the front of a turret with the bad pen barrel

[strange thicket]

doesn't matter

[solid gate]

I'm pretty sure it does when a heavy tank has to hide behind a corner while I pellet thier turret head from the front

[balmy compass]

poor turret armor

[brave matrix]

yeah ik but i didn’t think they won because we killed the guy the same secon it got 1k points😂

[lyric copper]

you do realise its a 2 man tank right?

[safe cedar]

AMX elc bis 90mm when?

[opaque flicker]

What is the fastest tank in the game?

[balmy compass]

Ru-251 for top speed
Although for most effective top speed may be debatable, some say M41D

[blissful osprey]

What exactly is the difference between an OP premium and an OP TT then? If anything, the fact OP TT tanks exist is even worse because that's all everyone is using. At least with a premium, you won't exactly be seeing the whole mm filled up with them.

[strange thicket]

oh, so you are saying pay2win aspect is better than having an accessible techtree tank everyone can use? KEK
it is so fun coming up against anni or smasher innit
if it is in pubs, i don't care it is a free for all there
in ratings? yeah no, it should measure skills not how much money you have in your wallet
having ratings restricted only to TT will make it more skill representative
since everyone can play with the same tanks
right now all you can see is mostly premiums in tiers like 8 and 9 lmao.

[balmy compass]

T29, T32, T92 spam

[blissful osprey]

I don't see a difference. An OP tank is an OP tank. What makes an OP prem so bad to play that it shouldn't be allowed if I can just spam a lot more OP TTs? I don't get it.

[strange thicket]

because an OP prem is accessible by money not skill or grinding.
hence i can be a half arse player and buy a premium tank to carry me in ratings (of course it stops at a certain point) but you basically compensate for skill with an OP tank a select few can access.
game balance wise? both are on equal footing.
in pubs? who cares?
in ratings? it wouldn't hurt to make it TT only. everyone has access to the same set of tanks. the only difference is skill which is.... uhhh kinda the point of ratings?

[strange thicket]

yeah can definitely see the "spam"
i never said OP TTs aren't being used but ok lmao

[balmy compass]

Most matches if not all will have the same tanks over and over

[strange thicket]

oh they don't already? my bad.

[balmy compass]

When I played ratings there was a decently diverse amount of tanks

[strange thicket]

i really doubt unless it was some casual players lol
you could see a pattern of select few tanks being used in ratings.
lots of premiums + the good tech tree tanks of course.
unless we are speaking of tier 10 which doesn't have that much premiums.
once you advance to higher ratings it will be noticeable too.
don't see where the fault is in forcing the wallet warriors to grind a bit(fxp some lines) and use the same tanks as the rest. after all, isn't ratings the "display your skill" mode?