vehicles-discussion

[balmy compass]

Yes compare a decent heavy and a superheavy

[marsh sleet]

Definitely Tiger 2

I got the cruel twist out of a crate, I didnt buy it.
I got it when I bought my M6A2E1 EXP

[sick juniper]

Good Cause i researched it and my friend has the vk 100.01 p

[balmy compass]

They are both good tanks

[marsh sleet]

So 2 tanks with 1 purchase

[blissful osprey]

ngl I don't really get the argument that the 268/4 is broken.

any slight angling, and a lot goes through the cheeks, and the rest of it is meh, if not slightly bad.

[lyric oriole]

It's broken against bots

Kinda the 252u thing

[blissful osprey]

I still think it's ridiculous. The reason why it's so "broken" is really due to a lack of experience fighting them and that the people who bought them know what they're doing (at least most of them)

[civic iron]

Ppl will just learn to pen it and in a few months it will get buttered as easily as 252U currently

[blissful osprey]

The definition of P2W in one picture

Sir, you penned it.

Anyways, it's still not a valid point to argue that it's broken in any real way.

[plucky summit]

It’s only good at engaging one target, but it can’t even 1v1 specifically

[blissful osprey]

At least it looks hawt for a Soviet TD.

[plucky summit]

People are gouging me out for saying it’s not OP

And then said using Reactive Armor is stupid

[blissful osprey]

The WeeGee Paradox strikes again!

If you don't have it, you think it's too good.

Do have it, and you think it's too bad.

(not saying this applies to you as well)

[plucky summit]

I have it, but I haven’t battled with it, I’m saying statwise I’ve thought it wasn’t OP

[blissful osprey]

WeeGee Paradox at its finest.

[brave juniper]

P2w game balance for every game with nerf/buff release copy and paste strat in the works be like

[blissful osprey]

It's really the playerbase's fault, they complain, and what can the company do? Say no? They can extend it for as long as they want, but sooner or later they're going to revisit it even when it isn't necessary.

[strange thicket]

i find the exp to be really great in peekaboo and medium distance fights
just make sure there is a wall besides you

[misty wing]

I used to own one like 3 years ago, then sold it after like 5 games lol

[strange thicket]

it is my first ever premium tank
got it from an event when i didn't even reach tier 8 yet.

[misty wing]

I prefer the T34 tbh

T34 is one of my most played tanks because it used to be my only credit grinder

never really play it anymore though

[strange thicket]

i think this is where we both are coming from
because exp used to be my only credit grinder too 😂
i sold my 50tp prototyp for the lowe and the darn thing didn't wanna pop up

yeah i stopped playing the exp in favor of other premiums
i have way more fun in the is5

[blissful osprey]

ngl I just liked it a lot.

[misty wing]

skoda t56 is my IS-style tank of choice for tier 8

I hope they announce the next batch of PBR tanks soon 🤔

[blissful osprey]

And It'll all be German again.

The Brits need some PBR tbh

[misty wing]

I think it might be progetto, a russian line, or one of the chinese

[blissful osprey]

Just give the CAX some PBR to make it look good

[misty wing]

IS-7 was one of the first tanks to be updated and I don't think the russians have gotten one since

[blissful osprey]

Well, that is true, T-100LT not included

[blissful osprey]

Grind Leo 1 hehehe

[brave juniper]

Think of 268 as the easy path and 263 the hard and skill based one, don't grind Leo, its far behind in meta and too skill reliant for what little it gives with the current mediums available

268 is an easy to play td line, for 263 it will take some skill but it might be worth it if u can stand a fast meh aim 4 deg gun dep pew pew 460 machine

[formal spire]

Does anyone have IS-1

[brave juniper]

U mean ms1?

[formal spire]

IS-1

Does anyone have KV-2

[misty wing]

So the IS

[hot lava]

U mean the IS? Tier 7 Soviet HT?

[formal spire]

Yeah

[misty wing]

Tons of people have it

[misty wing]

hulldown as always, but you have to be more passive compared to the Emil I and Kran

only trust your turret if you're top tier
but you have basically the same gun as the kran, only a tier lower. use this to your advantage

[mystic sleet]

And an actually useful tech tree heavy tank at tier 10

[past fractal]

Just make Super Conqueror the tech tree tank like on PC

[thorny smelt]

Demote Object 263 to tier 9 and make Object 268 v4 tier 10

[strange thicket]

lol please no, i just came across a v4 in my emil 2
thing turned away a tiny bit and the cheek immediately became grey to apcr
no thanks

[misty wing]

the cheeks are so ridiculously bad

[silk tide]

There isn`t any tank which is OP, you can always pen the rear. 😄 😄

I wonder how WG is advertising things though, in the ads they are impenetrable and other things but if you ask them they are 'balanced'. 🤔

[strange thicket]

yeah, a teeny tiny angle and they are grey

[solid gate]

Guys what is the best consumables for the churchill 7 tank?

[misty wing]

adrenaline double repair

[solid gate]

Thank you!

[misty wing]

I'm not really gonna comment on the overall power level of the tank, but the armor layout it has is really stupid imo

Should've buffed the cheeks and nerfed the lower plate or even the upper plate

[silk tide]

It wouldn`t be as good as crushing, I somehow lost a whole Foch HP bar to one of those and dealt just 46 damage, I rammed the front, does it have rammer or something that gives it the extra OPness?

[misty wing]

it weighs 75 tons and has extremely thick raw frontal armor, so obviously it's a good rammer

[thorny smelt]

Just one turn and you're doomed

[solid gate]

Is gravedigger a good tank?

[silk tide]

Often OP so yeah.

[misty wing]

Gravedigger is meh

[hollow sequoia]

only good against tier 6s and skill issue tier 7s

[solid gate]

well it is fun either way

[thorny smelt]

It's annoying as heck

[calm patio]

which is best tier 10 heavy

[solemn holly]

Top 3 best T8 and T10 tournament tanks?

[lyric copper]

tier X?

IS7, 60TP, T-100 LT

[violet timber]

Which tier?

[violet timber]

IS-7, 60TP, Yoh.

[solemn holly]

T10 and T8

[violet timber]

In tier 10, IS-7, 60TP, T-100, Yoh.
In tier 8, T32, 53TP

[lyric copper]

third best in tier 8 prob 4-way tie between T26E5, Emil 1, Obj. 252, and T54E2

[calm patio]

affirmative

[solid gate]

Do collector's vehicles earn as much money as premiums or does it vary by vehicle

[lyric copper]

varies by tank

[odd pond]

Yoo

I have a question for yalll

Is the hori tier 10 still worth getting ?

[violet timber]

Yes

[oak sun]

Why people makes credit with tier 8 premium and not tier 7 prem nor tier 9 or 10?

[balmy compass]

Tier 8 has better credit coefficients

[jaunty shell]

Buff the Panther M10. It is literally so bad. It is about as maneuverable as the Panther, it’s ugly, it has no armor, and the gun is significantly worse.

[pallid flame]

wg won’t see this

[balmy compass]

Its not ugly to me 🗿

[umbral hamlet]

nobody cares about an old and long time ago powercrepted tank

[solid gate]

Lads i need a guide for the churchill 7 im suffering rn from its bad mobility

[umbral hamlet]

the tank itself is bad except for the gun, that's all you need to know

[past fractal]

Even the gun is pretty mediocre since you are pretty much outtraded by alpha by a lot of heavies in that tier imo

[solid gate]

The reload speed really kinda cheer me up a lil bit

[past fractal]

4 degs of gun depression good luck

[solid gate]

Yeah thats why i ask guys for a guide

[past fractal]

Ok wait what the-

[spice cipher]

What are best tier X med tanks? Still the STB 1? Or is the E50M / M48?

[solid gate]

Alr nvm i cant even penetrate annihilator side armor

[violet timber]

E50M and M48

[solid gate]

Uh i got a lot of track crit shot today

[blissful osprey]

What? Why? The frontal armor's what it has going for it. They can't bother to nerf it now.

[fast compass]

Well they released it. There is practically zero hope that there will be a balance change on it for the better

[blissful osprey]

The cheeks are still pretty weak.

[nimble vessel]

damn im loving the 268v4 rn

[brave juniper]

Love it more before it's gone into higher price crates and still w no charms 3 years later like t22

[teal kite]

How much does vk 100.01 p cost also i just started playing the game yesterday

[nimble vessel]

don't need charms

[brave juniper]

T22 has a 5% chance to drop, i myself got it in my 4th crate lol at 20$ bucks for 4 crates back then

[brave juniper]

Dang lol selling my 50tp trying to get it sure was worth it 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂 😂 4% chance huh

[alpine tree]

you used all of luck in ur life

[brave juniper]

Well considering I've managed to get things with a 0.1%(0.10%) drop chance before this definitely isn't the luckiest I've been

[alpine tree]

my best is 0.05

[solid gate]

mine is 0.02% over 4 years

oh, and the e 25 from a fan container today, so quite lucky today

[mystic sleet]

Wait, you already got a container?

[solid gate]

yep

I'd rather go is-7 if i were you

in my experience it has stronger armor and sometimes it can bounce shots on sides, basically almost impenetrable turret front and the usual trouble of lower armor plate and cheeks at an angle

[graceful iris]

is7 has better tanks in line and is better than is4 too. t9 is better on is4 line but all other tanks are better on is7 line. if we only compare t10 tho is7 still wins. is7 is one of the best heavies in t10 and compared to is4 it's a lot better in most aspects. the only better thing on IS-4 is gun. IS-7 has better armor and mobility. also more alpha but less dpm and pen

[solid gate]

that's not the question for me thankfully. i played maus and it has its own way of playing that I'm sure differs from is-7

good luck bud

[graceful iris]

gl. though all heavies are played differently. anddd im not sure if i can explain it well theoretically lol

[solid gate]

is-7 is certainly not a very difficult tank to play considering its overpowered side screens that bounce shots. from what i know its turret front can be penned by ho-ri with prammo but everything else will have a hard time penning the front in general without prammo

i haven't played it myself though but it seems fun to try out some day

aye you could say so

[graceful iris]

with is-7 you can do pretty much anything. front line, brawl.. hulldown is good and sidescraping is also good but hard to learn at first because of pike nose. reverse sidescraping is option too but careful not to show your rear. if you hide your lower plate you're literally impenetrable for most enemies (as long as you directly face them)

if you find isolated target you can probably win in a brawl depending on enemy tank and skill. facehugging is very effective lol

[solid gate]

can confirm

[solid gate]

2K gold 😎

[blissful osprey]

You've posted this already. Grow up.

[balmy compass]

Okay

[blissful osprey]

It's a darn repost.

[balmy compass]

Cool

[oblique jolt]

T100lt and obj 84 guide and tips please

[civic iron]

Imagine

[balmy compass]

Hold W, left click

[oblique jolt]

Is the spotting mechanic Op? And is assist damage good xp gain

I'm a heavy and Td player with 56.~~% wr and want to switch play style

[misty wing]

Imagine reposting a flex 💀

[pallid flame]

asking for attention

[glad matrix]

I've just seen in battle a new tank i've never met before : it's a russian TD tier 10 called Obj (i do not rememeber the number after). Is it a tank in testing ? I hope WG will nerf it because it's OP. Impossible to pen even with gold. I was in IS7 and gold mun were useless.

[plucky summit]

Obj. 268/4 😋

[glad matrix]

Where does it come from ? Never seen this in shop.

[pallid flame]

It’s literally in the shop

[plucky summit]

It has its own crates 🤷‍♂️

[glad matrix]

I've just check the shop. There is no tank in crates. We don't have any tanks in crates anymore.

[pallid flame]

We do

[glad matrix]

Only tanks to buy with gold or euros. We never have crates anymore in shop for 2 years now.

[plucky summit]

Screenshot the Tanks Tab, please.

[glad matrix]

I see. But what you show is not in my shop.

[plucky summit]

We should call it the Obj. 67 😂

[glad matrix]

I've said we have no crates in shop for 2 years now.

[plucky summit]

Wait, perhaps you’re living in that one country that banned gambling like that or sumn

[glad matrix]

I'm from Belgium

[plucky summit]

I was thinking Belgium, so that may be the case, you can’t gamble on crates 💀

[glad matrix]

This tank appears clearly OP. Impossible to pen. Even lower plate.

[pallid flame]

it’s not op.

[glad matrix]

I hope WG will adjust it by diminishing lower plate armor.

[plucky summit]

I danced around being devil’s advocate in balance-discussion, they will rip you apart 😂

[hollow sequoia]

that lower plate isnt a weakspot, its 280mm raw

[pallid flame]

330

[glad matrix]

Front armor appears all red even with gold mun. this tank is a bunker.

[hollow sequoia]

i meant the raw unangled thickness but yeah

[plucky summit]

330 to HEAT or 330 to AP?
I’m going to assume HEAT

[glad matrix]

To pen this tank no other way than to shoot it on flank or rear. So withfrontal attack in heavy, it's hopeless. Only meds and lights and some fast heavys can get rid ot this tank. It's not balanced.

[plucky summit]

If you want to know a way, you can shoot the lower part of its cupola

[hollow sequoia]

or spam prammo if you have over 330mm pen on it

[pallid flame]

One small angle and it’s 600mm+

[plucky summit]

If you’re a heavy, you can consistently splash ~190 damage

@pallid flame ??

[hollow sequoia]

totally balanced
(sarcasm)

[glad matrix]

There is no tank with a such frontal armor in game.

[pallid flame]

if the tank is turned slightly you can those two spots

[plucky summit]

Oh I thought you were talking about the 280mm LFP

[glad matrix]

Probably the Samurai could pen it but other tanks ?

[plucky summit]

Quite a few of them can

[pallid flame]

4005 with 370mm heat pen lol

[plucky summit]

APCR*
Even better ;)

[hollow sequoia]

its immune to regular rounds and low pen prammo frontally and thats about it
decent prammo can butter it

[pallid flame]

shhhhh

[glad matrix]

I will wait until it hits the shop for money or gold. i will buy it surely.

[plucky summit]

😋

[solid gate]

hello friends

TOG

my favorite tank

[plucky summit]

Mine’s Unexpectable too 😂

[blissful osprey]

Then what is it?

[lyric oriole]

Probably Excelsior

[misty wing]

Matilda BP

[lyric oriole]

Nah, Matilda IV

Matilda BP is understandable for the pew pew

[misty wing]

will I get banned for throwing if I play this

[brave juniper]

You don't just randomly get banned for playing y'know, unless you're running a skins mod to see where modules are at, which is considered cheating

[copper swan]

maybe, just don't do that
get enough silver and free xp to fully equip the tank before playing it
also there is a discount using gold for crew training now, so use it, it doesn't cost a lot

[misty wing]

you can see I own the top modules but I'm choosing to use the stock ones, so I technically am throwing

[violet timber]

P2W doesn’t exist in blitz.

[blissful osprey]

No, but you get a cookie.

[neat nimbus]

i always liked it but... does really cool as i think

[balmy compass]

If you want the camo you should get it, I think its cool

[oblique jolt]

Free xp my way to the t100lt, stop short at obj 84. I love this thing .

[balmy compass]

Funky armor

[graceful iris]

2k avg xp..

[remote sentinel]

should i skip tier WT ?

[misty wing]

huh

[remote sentinel]

i mean should i skip tier to grille 15 ?

[misty wing]

no, the line is pretty good

[graceful iris]

You mean should you skip waffle? Tier 9?

[remote sentinel]

yes

[graceful iris]

No don't do it. T9 WT is literally better than grille lmao

[slim topaz]

Waffle is one of best TD in tier 9 tbh, hell it can perform good in tier 10 mm if you know what you're doing

[graceful iris]

It's considered to be better than grille by most of playerbase kekw

[slim topaz]

360° gun rotation supremacy 🤣

[remote sentinel]

ohhh ok thk but when i get WT what gun should i use for that ?

[graceful iris]

10 degree gun depression supremacy kekw

[slim topaz]

Yup XD

[remote sentinel]

me: enjoy Rhm :)

[graceful iris]

I'd suggest fxping top gun. It's expensive but it's worth it

[remote sentinel]

15 or 12.8 ?

[graceful iris]

15cm pak L/38

[remote sentinel]

ok thks for u suggestion

[graceful iris]

Np

[night citrus]

if you use the 15cm, you can do 1k dmg to T54

[pallid tiger]

Amx cdc worth it for 6500 gold??

[misty wing]

nope

[remote sentinel]

a real glass gun :)

[silk tide]

It`s a peek a boo tank

[night citrus]

it was much better back then before the reload nerf

I chased a T54 around a rock, and loaded HE and penned his side for 1.1k dmg

[strange thicket]

it is literally not any less effective, what are you talking about?

[manic carbon]

It’s not a real Glass Cannon because it has spall liner and the tank is so versatile that you can get away with being more aggressive

[night citrus]

well not when I played it lol, theres no such thing as the HE absorbing consumable and all other consumables back then

if you get smacked by HE, it does full damage

[silk tide]

Imagine if it was the first time for the t54 to meet a tank like yours, 'oh look Ivan tier 4 tank thinks it can fight me'.

[night citrus]

all I had was double food, improved fuel, 2 repairs and adrenaline

yet I still played it like a medium

[silk tide]

'You see Ivan if tier 4 wants to fight you show your side and see tier 4 ashamed' I guess that`s what happened. lol

[night citrus]

It happened around one of the rocks for the north spawn on heavy side on dead rail, played ring around the rosie with him, thats why I got the chance to HE his side

[silk tide]

I always fear the tracks when I use HE on the side and panic so that I do hit the tracks. lol

[night citrus]

think it was between sector 2 and sector 5

[night citrus]

lol thats how rng usually screws everyone over, not much anyone can do if it just doesn't wanna hit the hull

[silk tide]

Every time I meat a T49 in my T49 I show the tracks, T49 seems to have a track magnet in those shells.
If they do use HE and target the hull it`s a 70% chance they won't do decent damage. 🙂

[strange thicket]

then they don't aim well
showing the sides sure is better than the front though

[silk tide]

I don`t seem to aim well either, I panic everytime I see tracks in that tank.lol
I'd just use HEAT on the turret

[strange thicket]

wotinspector or blitzhangar

[solid gate]

Guys whats the best equipment for panther 1?

[hollow notch]

This is what I would use on it

The ones people will fight me over are vstab vs refined, enhanced armor vs improved assembly, and the top vitality one that doesn't really matter

[solid gate]

thanks but tbh i like the refined more

[violet timber]

I’d More fight you on supercharge vs GLD, but that’s just me

[pallid tiger]

🥺

☝️ 😅

[livid moss]

Best camo for FV301?

[hollow notch]

It's a freaking panther
Better aimtime is completely useless, more shell velocity is actually nice to have

[thorny smelt]

WZ-113G FT is somehow mobile, for me, for some reason. The traverse is good, at least for me, when equipped with Improved Control instead of my usual Engine Accelerator.

[hollow notch]

Also, gun laying drive is ONLY useful when completely stationary and aiming in. If you are sitting still, you are just asking to be shot.

Supercharge makes guns easier to work with, need less predictions of how the moving enemy will behave (helps with hatchshots, and can even allow more shots to go in before a tank goes around a corner

Unless the gun is ungodly terrible when it comes to aiming, supercharge is far superior

[prime condor]

yooo got this from biggest container

worth it?

[copper swan]

not bad, spam premium shell for more damage
you are very big and unarmoured

[past fractal]

Except for the small angled front plate bar, yeah, u dont have any armor

[balmy compass]

The box tank, 500 damage go brrr

[prime condor]

thanks

[balmy compass]

Would killing this loader actually change the reload, he appears to be loading a gun you cant use

[umbral hamlet]

grobtracktor model is a bit bugged, im not even entirely sure there's actually a crew member in the back

[balmy compass]

I see, I have also found a few other broken models too 😂

[thorny smelt]

I go for Supercharger when it is a sniping tank destroyer. In case of WZ-113G FT, I got for Gun Laying instead. I might change to Supercharger in the future.

[solid gate]

bonus code?

[umbral hamlet]

it will be released this evening during manu's stream, you can find the link in #game-news

[green iris]

Is it me or is the Ltg a good tier seven light tank

[balmy compass]

Short

[blissful osprey]

Not really. As someone had joked, "They had to nerf the LTTB to make the LTG even look like a choice."

[tight holly]

LTG is troll but not reliable

[pure scaffold]

How good is the leopard ? I feel like it’s bad

[balmy compass]

Which Leopard

[blissful osprey]

All of them probably. And they wouldn't be wrong. After all, both are pretty skill-based, though the Leo a bit less due to it's spammy nature.

[prime tundra]

how do i pace myself properly in a vk 100

top modules and 60k exp so far, yet i seem to always either rush or be too far away from the frontline

[wheat void]

Idk just stick with the rest of the heavies? Shift hull so its hard to hit cupola, cheeks, or bottom plate

[plucky summit]

Find a building or terrain that you can sidescrape off of, that's really just how it plays xD

[prime tundra]

i mean, i am somewhat good at tanking hits and usually end up blocking more damage than i have hp

[plucky summit]

That's your job in the battle, yes

[prime tundra]

its just that vk is soooo slow so i cant really follow behind the other heavies, i think i need to lead more

and if i do i end up rushing or my teammates abandoning me and w

[blissful osprey]

Just go with the heavies, find a sidescraping spot, and stay there until you can move up. That's all there is to it. Just don't use a sidescraping spot too from the heavies if you feel they're going to leave.

[wise moth]

@hollow moth I'm streaming the v4 here if you want to watch

[hollow moth]

Gotta get my headphones, brb

[copper swan]

how to play M41 90mm?

[balmy compass]

Like M41 bulldog but better?
Swap speed boost with repair kit yes

[pallid tiger]

Yes is a good tank have tier 8 gun have a nice ram

[plucky summit]

When 40% WR but 3,832 damage
Yes, it was a 5 battles =l

[balmy compass]

Team’s moment

[brave juniper]

Hey censored you play the censored by censored and censored most of the time, when it comes to capping in Supremacy you should censored, it's a pretty great tank at censored

[blissful osprey]

Thank you for the template. We’ll keep that in mind.

[robust orchid]

I've come to a realization that I have made a mistake.
I went for the Tiger Porsche line and expected the Maus to do better than the E 100, but after some quick looks and asking, I realized I made a mistake.

And now I'm stuck with the Vk.100.01 (P) and have to grind my way back to the Tiger Henschel ;-;

[robust orchid]

How'd you get that tonk? That seems really annoying whenever I play Tier VII, VIII and IX

[copper swan]

esports container 2022

[blissful osprey]

The Maus is a good tank. Good armor, so much HP, even has 8 degree gun depression iirc (though the turret placement and it’s height in general limits that from seeming so). I suppose it doesn’t fit a lot of play style, tho. You do you, I guess.

[dim pollen]

That's still forgiving. Dude I researched Ferdinand instead of vk 45 cuz I wanted JgE100. And thts the biggest mistake.

[copper swan]

both the maus line and the E 100 line are good in their own ways
and look at the tech tree while grinding tanks, plus don't play stock
wait till you have enough silver and free xp, plus gold to train crew to 100% before even tapping the 'battle' button for that tank

[thorny smelt]

You can skip the Tiger I and go for Panther I instead. This way you can unlock both Tiger II and Panther II.

[dim pollen]

Panther 1 has paper armor but dpm is fire. Unlock tht oonga baloonga 75 kwk and u will have a blast

[cerulean fog]

Any advice on 268/4, it might be op somewhat, but doesnt do much good when all of reds tunnel you, its totally team dependent, and pramo does and will pen, struggling to not look like a idiot for buying, got on 18th crate, bought 24 , 75 dollar he target

[strange thicket]

way more XP and a worse tank
Tiger 1 route for E100 is much more comfortable and will save you time
and offers unique experience

[thorny smelt]

I was perhaps a chad and I'm done with the E 100 line already. I think it was pre-nerf Panther. I dunno, but I get to play more mediums at that time.

[copper swan]

lol

[strange thicket]

yeah i got e50m and e100 through the medium line
however the heavy line is so much better and less boring
having to play the same tank for double the period gets old
only reason i went the heavy line from panther is because it stayed long enough to accumulate enough xp

i am already dreading playing the t54 regularly after grinding the obj 140

[blissful osprey]

Nothing. Suffer, and be proof that the v4 ain’t the OP mess people say it is.

[thorny smelt]

I paused the E50M line, specifically Panther II, because mostly skill issue. I can see the hype that time about this Panther and I joined in.

[copper swan]

now go play mad games and do humongous damage with panther 2

[thorny smelt]

I'm a Ratings kind of player

[dim pollen]

Which tanks u guys think needs buff ASAP?

[acoustic galleon]

FV215b

[dim pollen]

Yeah. And M4 Sherman too

[acoustic galleon]

Its kinda ironic how the British tree has two amazing tier 10 premium heavies but the 215b is arguably the worst tier 10 right now.

[blissful osprey]

The Kanonenjagdpanzer is fun. I just suck at TDs.

[marsh carbon]

Man heavy tanks are very hard to play gotcha one but iam getting killed easily Cuz of low speed and
gun loading time bruh

[dim pollen]

Which heavy are u wielding rn?

[marsh carbon]

Oops it's not heavy it's A Tank Destroyer of Soviet tier IV
It's my first Tank Destroyer

[dim pollen]

Su 85B?

[marsh carbon]

Yeah
Can I have some tips for it?

[dim pollen]

Man tht sucks

[marsh carbon]

Ah yeah it's hard to play and iam newbie

[dim pollen]

Get the tier 5 asap

[thorny smelt]

And the 85 mm gun

[marsh carbon]

Ok which tank?

[thorny smelt]

SU-85

[marsh carbon]

Ok

[dim pollen]

Bruh just lost a match in leo with highest dmg in my team. Map: Dynasty's pearl.

[thorny smelt]

Which Leo? Tier 5 VK 16.02 Leopard? Tier 7 Leo? Tier 9 Leopard PTA? Tier 10 Leopard 1?

[dim pollen]

Leo. The Swedish med. T7

[misty wing]

Happens all the time, just move on

[dim pollen]

And just now had a win lol

I'm having pain in grinding with chaffee

[blissful osprey]

But the Chaffee’s all cute and everything…

[dim pollen]

Lmao. It doesn't trade with being good on the battlefield

[ivory ocean]

ya well its more of a hit and run
and it lacks alot of dpm

[dim pollen]

Yes. And if u r surrounded u r dead

[ivory ocean]

yup
and it doesnt have the speed of other meds
but its a fun tank to play

[pine summit]

after the m41 bulldog was buffed to 1100 HP, please increase the m41d aswell

[ivory ocean]

which gun do i use for the panther 2 ?
the tier 7 one or tier 8 one ??

[misty wing]

obviously the top gun

[copper swan]

^

[past fractal]

Yeah, the 220 alpha gun lacks quite a bit of penetration especially against tier 8

[dim pollen]

All I want is T49 light tank with tht derp gun. Thts where the fun begins right?

[ivory ocean]

ya thats why i asked

[pallid tiger]

Hope wg sell t28 mod 1940 in the shop

[umbral hamlet]

why? it's an usless t4, which doesn't make extra credits and has quite bad stats

[pallid tiger]

I just like it from other games and I think it's cool

[umbral hamlet]

on wotb it definitely isn't, and wg knows it sucks and isn't popular, so it will only come as a secondary reward in events, just to lower the chances to get the main

[pallid tiger]

Ohh

[pallid tiger]

What about fury?

[blissful osprey]

Just an M4A3E8 with better credit coefficient. A collector's tank, but nothing else.

[umbral hamlet]

meh tank, basically an E8 tech tree reskin

[pallid tiger]

Ohh

I love m4a2e4 sherman hope this tank will appear again in the shop

[misty wing]

Only fun if you like missing or not penning half your shots

[dim pollen]

True true. Thts wht I saw in many players while playing

[hollow notch]

It's really hard to use the t49 properly, but once you learn how to do it, it absolutely sheds

[pure scaffold]

Which is stronger, e50 m or leopard I ?

What are like the best tier X tanks rn ?

[violet timber]

IS-7, 60TP, T-100

[misty wing]

E50M is stronger

[umbral hamlet]

e50m and leo1 are different tanks

btw an avarage player will probably do better in the e50m because it's more forgiving, while an expert player will do better in the leo1 cuz it has a great gun combined with the best mobility in t10

[misty wing]

I disagree with this thing people throw around all the time where "mobile, less armored tank = pros will do better in it"

The fact of the matter is that pros will perform better in stronger and more meta tanks, in which case the E50M is the clear winner here

[violet timber]

It’s not so much “pros will do better in this tank” as it is “pros will do better then noobs”, or “only pros should play this tank as it is unforgiving”

[misty wing]

This might be a hot take, but I find noobs in light tanks/paper TDs/"pro-only tanks" to be far more threatening than noobs in IS-7s or E100s

[kindred wren]

Your take is so hot that reading it burned out my eyes

[hollow gazelle]

Thought the same thing why would i run a leo when i could run a e50m with armour nearly the same gun with the only real disadavntage being a slight loss in mobility and dpm but i get all the benefits of being a e50m

[misty wing]

Bad players in those so-called noobproof heavies are easily circled/flanked with meds/lights, can't use their armor effectively and overexpose against TDs, and are easily outbrawled by more competent heavy players, often leaving them with 2/3 or more HP left after the fight

Meanwhile, noobs in light tanks almost always provide a nuisance just by being on the battlefield in a weird position, and it's often harder to identify them as a lesser threat (bad heavy players typically just yolo/sit in the open, and you can see them running no camo). They often take advantage of supremacy points as well

[hollow gazelle]

That moment u cross a open area think ur safe only to be hit by a borsig in a bush in the middle of nowhere that you have never been shot from b4 loose 640 hp and now ur tryna figure out where he is

[kindred wren]

If they don‘t sit in the open or yolo they clearly aren‘t comparable to the players who do

[misty wing]

Incompetent light players always just hide, unless they're the truly truly awful 30%ers who just rush in and die instantly
I'm talking more the 48-50% group here

[kindred wren]

48-50% is solid average and those players won‘t yolo or sit in the open in heavies unless they have a reason to

[misty wing]

But yeah most of the not-so-great light players are constantly running and hiding and not directly helping their team, but it can be a big nuisance especially in supremacy. They are far more difficult to deal with than a mediocre IS-7 or E100 player

[kindred wren]

Only if you are in a heavy, in a medium or light you casually approach and then farm them

[misty wing]

Never happens

[hollow gazelle]

Oh trust me i have had too many games where are 50% players in insert top tier heavy that yolo me do at most half my hp and loose their full tank to do it, its more common than u think

[misty wing]

Light tanks are naturally just more annoying to deal with than heavies, when you pair it with a player who is more likely to do unpredictable things, you obviously get the far more annoying result

[kindred wren]

It really is not. Those hull hp losses mostly occur mid-game when someone tries to break a stalemate, and even that isn‘t really common, just memorable

[kindred wren]

What‘s more annoying, an elephant in your living room or a fly?

You miss the fly once or twice, but the elephant? You aren‘t moving it

[hollow gazelle]

Light tank players typically dont seem to overestimate their ablities even if they are top tier and so tend to make better decisions even if they are 50% players i find heavy players of the same skill level are alot more over confident and therefore usually do worse against skilled players

[misty wing]

That's kind of an exaggerated comparison...
If I were to compare a fly to a big spider, the fly is far more annoying. The spider is much slower and easily spotted, I can quickly chase it out or kill it

[kindred wren]

Here you mistake skill for in-battle performance; due to the inherent superiority of heavies a heavy player with 50% is a lot less skilled than a light player with 50%

[kindred wren]

Ah yes, I want to see you chase a heavy tank out of a position

[hollow gazelle]

Is that not the point we are making tho that light tank players at the same winrate/skill level usually play better than heavies

[misty wing]

You're just nitpicking an analogy that's obviously not meant to be 1:1 now

[kindred wren]

That‘s literal nonsense because the skill level determines how well they play

[kindred wren]

You complained about my analogy exaggerating, so why can‘t I complain about yours that represents the situation even less accurately?

[hollow gazelle]

I find light tank players to play better than heavies maybe thats because i deal with heavies alot more and therefore kill alot more but from my experience heavies usually play worse at the same wr

[misty wing]

This is true, mediocre-bad heavy players are typically too overconfident in their armor, whereas light players in that same range are often running and just being a nuisance (although not necessarily being useful to their team)

[misty wing]

Oh it is a far better analogy than yours lol
The difference between a fly and a spider is pretty similar to that of a light and heavy. Fly vs elephant is just silly

[kindred wren]

Yes, I don‘t disagree, I just believe that=s due to heavy tanks generally giving better in-battle performance for less skill, thus giving you a high winrate

[kindred wren]

Like I said, I want to see you chase a heavy tank out of a position

[kindred wren]

What makes your analogy horrible is that you still see yourself as a human, being able to chase out or easily kill the spider

While my analogy at least gets the scales right by seeing the human as the average, the heavy as the (larger) elephant and the light as the (smaller) fly

[misty wing]

Because a noob in a heavy is always an easy kill no matter what I'm playing (as long as I have the hitpoints), which is what a spider is to me. A fly might be less threatening, but it is far more annoying and can actually outpace me

And your analogy is god awful, way worse scale

[kindred wren]

A noob in a heavy tank will always be more effective than a noob in a light tank. The light tank is an easy farm either way

[misty wing]

Ah yes, farm the t-100 that you can barely even hit anyway

[kindred wren]

You can take as many shots as you want if it only hides anyways

If you hunt someone who basically refuses to participate in battle by sitting back in a light tank then that‘s more you making the light tank annoying than the light tank being annoying

What I believe to be the case here is that light tanks are generally played by better players, this creating a misconception that players of the same skill level play better in light tanks, which is by measure of battle performance obviously incorrect

[misty wing]

My whole point is that they offer nuisance (spotting, supremacy points, heck even the red arrows being in your face) despite not being in the fight

[kindred wren]

Which is far worse than a heavy tanking shots for his team?

[misty wing]

A heavy tank offers nothing if it isn't in the fight, and when a noob heavy is in the fight, they are extremely ineffective and easy to take out

[kindred wren]

It offers more than a light tank that has essentially no effect on the game

If you don‘t take my word for it, why won‘t we look at performance stats? I can easily show you that bad players of the same skill perform better in heavy tanks than light tanks

[misty wing]

The light has a far bigger effect because of the constant threat of harassing/flanking that you have to bear in mind. And like I mentioned before, it's harder to tell when a light is being played by an incompetent driver, so you can't just ignore him like you mentioned

[misty wing]

That wasn't my point exactly, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone fighting against them. A nub in a light might perform worse statistically than in a heavy, but is more frustrating for the enemy to fight against

[kindred wren]

This effect may be important in your perception, but honestly if you are worried about being flanked in a heavy tank you can always just deny the flank with your campers in a defensive position

Generally I agree that you should always take all enemies seriously, but once you engage them you can quickly gauge if they are strong or weak

[misty wing]

And my campers would likely die to the flank because they're usually crap players, meanwhile if the nub was in a heavy I could've taken them out myself without losing hardly any hitpoints

[kindred wren]

If the flanker is in fact a noob he won‘t kill the flankers. It‘s more likely that he will take 640 to the face and the camper survives

[misty wing]

Like I said before, this type of light player is frequently running and hiding and not engaged enough for me to judge them as a bad or good player, which is where a lot of my perceived annoyingness stems from

[kindred wren]

Most people don‘t have the guts to push into high alpha tanks, or even stand off with them

[misty wing]

A noob in a heavy typically exposes himself as a poor player very quickly, in which case I can formulate my game plan a little further than otherwise

[kindred wren]

Well, maybe I just interpret their presence differently. I can only speak for myself when I say that I don‘t find light tank drivers to be particularly annoying compared to other tanks

[misty wing]

Maybe it's a server diff, but the mediocre light players from my experience make things less fun for both teams really

[kindred wren]

I actually find good players super annoying because they force me to sweat

[kindred wren]

Maybe

[strange thicket]

mm i have to disagree.
noob light tankers are not all too annoying because they can't make use of openings or spotting.
i think it depends on the situation, for example having a noob heavy tanker occasionally poking out side ways from a position is very annoying. especially when you are in a hull down tank and would really love to look at less angles.
or have them shoved in your face and having to deal with them, especially if their tank gets bounces out of nowhere(IS7) and their team is using that distraction and farming you.
these are some situations where i really really wish that player wasn't doing what he was doing.
on the other hand there is also some situations where light tankers are extremely annoying. like camping all battle and then having to hunt them down in the end in a slow heavy and potentially losing an ace :/. but if your MTs/LTs are competent they are usually wiped out pretty quickly

[trail orchid]

Just seen a Skoda t45 in a battle is that in testing

[manic carbon]

Yes it entered live server testing this update

[trail orchid]

@manic carbon thanks bud

[vernal sail]

Imma be honest, polish tanks kinda good. The habicha especially.

[pallid flame]

it’s okay

[vernal sail]

The amount of deflects it can rack up is awesome

[junior canyon]

yeah i got it today and was surprised by the armour

[wintry orchid]

Wait until they learn to press 2 and pen your upper hull

[brave juniper]

Gotta wait a few days

😔

[faint jungle]

When will the Sheridan missile be available

[solid gate]

add arty line

[balmy compass]

Die

The maps aren’t big enough for arty afiak

[boreal spruce]

play wot PC

[solid gate]

ok

[balmy compass]

Does the prammo for the SU-100Y have more chance to detonate a ammorack?

[fast compass]

No

[balmy compass]

I feel as if I get more ammorack detonations with SU-100Y then any other tank

[fast compass]

It just has high module damage and tanks at low tier have low module health plus are poorly armored where ammoracks are

[boreal spruce]

~~laughs ~~ cries in T54 and T34 tanks

[balmy compass]

Ah I see

[fast compass]

Something like the su100 ammorack is less stable than a thermonuclear warhead on a hairpin trigger

[balmy compass]

It is funny to bonk a KV-2

[stone girder]

what is the credit coefficient of the sheridan missile?

[graceful iris]

as su-100y enjoyer i can confirm this

It gets so many ammoracks. In one single game i literally got 3 ammoracks. 2 of them were full hp ammoracks. Its so satisfying lmao

[craggy mauve]

As a KV-2 player. You are the single enemy I fear most

[graceful iris]

I get more ammoracks in su100y than in kv2. Idk why

Probably cus SU has naval cannon lmao

[craggy mauve]

Probably, but I don’t have a SU so I will not know. I just know that a KV-2’s APHE penetrating will sap 50% of an enemy’s health and its always fun to watch them try to run from the Wrath of Stalin

[violet timber]

Same as the Sheridan. It's literally the exact same tank but with missiles

[stone girder]

what is the sheridan's then?

[violet timber]

75%

[neat nimbus]

i got it and is neat

[urban stump]

T55A is good tank?🤔

[misty wing]

Not really

[hollow notch]

Yes

[blissful osprey]

Well, it sorta is just a T-54, but it makes more credit.

[balmy compass]

The cooler T-54

[errant island]

i love su 100y

[onyx inlet]

t34-2 for mad games

😍

[errant island]

JPanther II

[long tapir]

What are the chances of the Obj 268/4 appearing in the Christmas fair if it's just released now?

[graceful iris]

Don't we all

[ebon nacelle]

A good light tank player single handedly wins the game 80% of the time

[misty wing]

Well, being named Dagos also wins you games 80% of the time

[ebon nacelle]

True

[kindred wren]

There is no doubt about that

[dim pollen]

I found strv 74 a nice enjoyable tank. Idk why it gets hate. Anyways, I've researched Leo wnd having a blast in it.

[umbral hamlet]

it gets hate because it's a tier6, and most people play tier8+
still, it's a pretty enjoyable tank i agree

[dim pollen]

Even I have tier 8+ tanks but sometimes low tier plays are fun.

[umbral hamlet]

indeed they're

[solid gate]

Thé premium tank Charles is so OP

[misty wing]

I can't enjoy the lower caliber gun sounds at all tbh

[dim pollen]

If I wanna grind in new nation, I mostly have to fxp my way till tier 5. Matchmaking takes ages

[dim pollen]

Lol it sounds good if u play using headphones

[misty wing]

I do use headphones. They sound bad

[dim pollen]

Hmm maybe u r used to listen the big guns. U seem to be playing heavy and TDs I guess?

[misty wing]

Yeah, I mostly play heavies and TDs now because they have better sounding guns and look cooler

[dim pollen]

Which is ur fav TD and a Heavy?

[ebon nacelle]

Dont say 60 dont say 60 dont say 60

[misty wing]

Object 268/4 and T57, both because of the looks

[ebon nacelle]

your 200$ tank 💀

[misty wing]

maybe super conqueror as well, for the heavies

[dim pollen]

Lol. I haven't unlocked 60tp yet. I'm in tier 9. Also, t57 is dangerous.

Conq is shit while super Conq is op.

[signal musk]

That's another 200$

[ebon nacelle]

favorite heavy? maybe 50b or kran

[misty wing]

why do you think I spent $200 on it 😂
Although I did get ripped tf off from those 10 minutes crates

[ebon nacelle]

td, uhhhhh, grille I guess, only one I own.

[ebon nacelle]

Didn't you say you bought like 2 sets of 14 crate bundles in the first 10 minutes?

[signal musk]

💸

[ebon nacelle]

Well he has a job so.

[misty wing]

I bought the most expensive ones ($100) twice before they were removed

[ebon nacelle]

200 dollar tank 💀

[dim pollen]

My fav heavy are vk 100, vk 90.01 p, E100, 53tp, black prince

I haven't reached tier X in TD though. But I enjoy Borsig, Isu 152, t28 prot, stug, jg pz IV and sturer Emil.

[misty wing]

I love it to death from a design perspective, but I hate playing it

[dim pollen]

irl I love the T55A. But wotb just happened to have a fked up design of my fav tank.

[ebon nacelle]

200$.......

[misty wing]

they said that about my concept 1b too 😔

[ebon nacelle]

both cancer to everybody involved besides the player themself.

[misty wing]

v4 is definitely cancer to the person playing it
concept is nice, but most people find it boring

[frail dagger]

i have 1000+ battles in the su-100y, no regrets

[misty wing]

Playing the V4 comes with all the usual frustrations of driving a slow tank with no turret, but you also have awful gun depression and gun handling to boot (traits of something like the 183) and getting penned because you accidentally angled the tank by 3 degrees is one of the most frustrating things I've ever come to face in this game

Also even worse camo values than the grille, getting spotted from across the map is pretty annoying too

from a purely emotional standpoint, being able to bounce tons of shots from the front doesn't make up for all of that

[dim pollen]

Hmm. Doesn't sound enjoyable

I love vk 90.01 p. It's amazing. I was lucky to get it from a free crate in one of the events

[misty wing]

I have one but rarely ever play it

[dim pollen]

It's good actually. Sidescraping is amazing in this tank. And also the frontal Armor isn't easily pennable

[ebon nacelle]

Me who casually enjoys the worst performing tier 10 heavy (kran).

[blissful osprey]

Meh, the E5 is probably worse.

[ebon nacelle]

I'm talking about statistics.

[blissful osprey]

oh, mb

[misty wing]

I enjoy the kran as well

[blissful osprey]

I want the Kran now

[misty wing]

I'm enjoying the conqueror ngl
too bad the 215b is in such a sorry state

[ebon nacelle]

It so easy to do well in, only a little patience and self-restraint will get you easy 3ks every game I swear.

[misty wing]

nvm I just dropped a 0 because I was running adrenaline + engine boost and got permatracked and caught on fire

after I spent my repair kit on a jammed turret

[ebon nacelle]

215 B is the definition of a overlooked tank, a sorry byproduct of years of neglect, the most recent dpm nerf being the nail in the coffin

[dim pollen]

I'm stuck in tier 9 M103. I don't have enough fxp for turret and top gun. The tank is unplayable in stock

[ebon nacelle]

Then dont play it and come back later when you get free xp, pretty simple

[dim pollen]

Yep. Thts why I play in isu.
I have chaffee which is unplayable for me. So isu is the only tank I play in my old account.

I tried amx elc bis too. Sucks

[misty wing]

@blissful osprey

[blissful osprey]

Well, of course it sucks stock

[dim pollen]

Idk why but all American heavies after tier 6 is damn costly on fxp

[frail dagger]

thats why you do what i do

• buys crates for the free xp certificates *

just so its clear, never spent a dime on this game, but i work hard, which is why i have substantial premiums

[past fractal]

Compared to other heavies I think they are far cheaper in fxp

[dim pollen]

But it's pain to grind in stock

[velvet aurora]

spends another 200$ on crates to grind that into free xp, while those 200$ to buy crates is more valuable when you buy free xp with gold.

[frail dagger]

wait is the math actually like that?

[velvet aurora]

no i was just joking xD. wouldnt be surprised if it were like that tho

[frail dagger]

at $200 i think it would end up being gold, but at say, $50 it would be in favour of crates

if your lucky that is

[velvet aurora]

yeah probabaly. But prices for those tanks and gold are just insane

[frail dagger]

yeah, like i grinded everything

but i have bought crates, i will admit

with gold ive earnt, not with money

[misty wing]

Bought with money is still earned if you earned the money

[velvet aurora]

hmm yes an excellent theory

[misty wing]

I just think "gold you've earned" is a stupid term that implies some kind of animosity towards just buying gold, which btw is what the method for getting it is supposed to be

every game has some kind of premium currency that is used to pay for premium goods and is typically bought with money. Blitz is just a little generous when it comes to handing it out

[frail dagger]

yeah

i am just a little grinch, i am filthy eatin the gold boosters and videos, scrumptious

[nimble vessel]

yo guys
how can i play the grille frontline lol

[velvet aurora]

but if you look at prices for gold, theyre not generous at all with giving some away for free

cause a lot of tank are like 8k gold and takes a long time to get to 8k without buying anything

[misty wing]

which supports my point that paying money is supposed to be the primary method of getting gold

[strange thicket]

it is a pretty difficult thing to do but mainly keep around your teammates and run spall liner
take shots at enemies that aren't directly looking in your direction or distracted(always peek in a side scraping position)
taking shots is fine as long as it is not too much, don't get in awkward positions because the gun depression is stupid(why wg)

[velvet aurora]

yeah, it should cause that "generous" part of getting gold makes everything more expensive so you need to spend MORE actual money to get the same thing

[nimble vessel]

i did that and got 3.5k but a loss, random teamates are bad nowadays :(

[strange thicket]

yeah well all you can do is try to carry harder
you don't always have to be on the frontline alternate between long range and mid/close range positions

you can start off long/mid range and as the match closes in get up to close range if you can afford the HP

[velvet aurora]

ive noticed that in tournaments with my clan mates in a 7v7, we all play so much better. THe difference with random teammates and clanmates you have played with and know their style is SO insane

[misty wing]

obviously

[velvet aurora]

yeah ofc you would play better but i never estimated the difference to be this big

[misty wing]

VC makes a huge difference too if you utilize it

[robust orchid]

Tips on how to get the upgraded gun faster?

I'm generally just annoyed rn from being attacked by American mediums and heavies such as the T26E4 along with Soviet LTs and HTs

Sure, I can take on the 252U, the IS-3, IS-6 and even another Tiger II head-on with little to no problem but jeez...once there's another tank supporting that tank I was attacking, it's over

[misty wing]

superpershing is ridiculously bad, idk how you're struggling with it

or any other american tier 8 medium, for that matter

[strange thicket]

side scrape, ez
if you side scrape the enemy either has to have enough pen to go through you or try to flank you
at which case sides scraping leaves only 3 angles open
the one in front of you, the one besides you on the opposite side of the building
the one behind you
if you got flanked you can just reverse and deal with the flanker
that is if they manage to go right through your teammates with ease(not very likely)

[nimble vessel]

ikr, i'm used to playing with 4k people and now ive got people who havent even played 10 cali battles :(

[misty wing]

I don't really play ratings at all

[nimble vessel]

use mom's credit card, always gets the job done

[strange thicket]

plus no tank is supposed to be able to take on multiple targets from multiple angles with no problems @robust orchid

[misty wing]

M3 Lee with its turrets on top of turrets:

[robust orchid]

From what I see, I have done what you said, however I just keep getting penetrated by Pershings, probably Cali and Prammo? Still, there's one more major problem I have.

Teammates. It's always them. I don't want to be rude or anything, but jeez, they're often too toxic and non-cooperative at all.

[nimble vessel]

lord of turrets

[misty wing]

probably from the side

[strange thicket]

the 7 team mates contribute to the battle, your contribution is not always positive either. only thing you can do is carry harder.
pershing has very good prammo, but you are probably over angling or it is shooting your turret
when side scraping you should go back in position after taking your shot because your turret is prone to prammo

[misty wing]

What I'm wondering is how you're even seeing enough pershings to list them specifically as a threat

hardly anyone plays the thing

[robust orchid]

I mostly encounter 2 at least each match, the T26E3 and T26E4, both of which are quite a menace to me

[nimble vessel]

yeah they suck
not the t26e4 tho, that thing is ok

[strange thicket]

how are you having trouble with the eagle 7?

[misty wing]

1. T26E3 is a tier 7
2. T26E4 sucks, it shouldn't be a threat at all
3. Both of those are quite rare nowadays, as is the normal Pershing

T26E5 can be quite menacing, but it is also fairly uncommon (people fanboy the action x over it)

[strange thicket]

it is literally one tier lower, plus you can just rip apart the predator(E4)
shoot its turret roof or if its stupid enough to angle shoot the weak sides
it is got good prammo for sure but it shoots for like 190 i think

[misty wing]

rename E4 camo to "prey" 😂

[robust orchid]

I have absolutely no idea why that could even happen to me, but sheesh, they aren't really good enough to tackle alone, especially when they're backed by a T49 or a TD

[nimble vessel]

"victim"

[strange thicket]

Lol, yeah it is pretty bad
i got it from a huge container, why couldn't it be a lowe 😭

[misty wing]

1. You should have teammates backing you as well
2. The T49 should be a non-threat in the tiger II

[robust orchid]

1. Teammates are toxic and non-cooperative, it's rare to find actually competent teammates
2. It isn't when it's alone

[misty wing]

then cooperate with your teammates instead of assuming they are going to cooperate with you
it only needs to come from one party

[strange thicket]

don't go down the "teammates are the reason" rabbit hole
you will only never improve that way, you should just learn to carry harder and push your tanks to the limit to achieve victory.
just as you have toxic non cooperative teammates, the enemy does too.
a predator coming at you with a t49 are ez to deal with, just make sure your teammates are around so you don't get circled and flanked(which is a no brainer)
even if they have a td with them you can just get into a sides craping position.

[misty wing]

Look at what your teammates are doing (most of the time they should be trying to accomplish something, or taking on an identifiable playstyle) and do the same or play around them

[misty wing]

ngl I would rather have the superpersh than the lowe
for the historical-ness

[strange thicket]

how dare you?!
Lowe >> superpersh
at least lowe is actually useful- oh fair enough 😂

[misty wing]

ngl out of all the tanks I've seen people complain about, it's never been pershings

[strange thicket]

people are weird
nobody complains about the t32 or the tech tree pershing
they are just driven towards tanks in the spotlight lmao

[misty wing]

tbf I don't think the pershing is really OP after the DPM buff
It still has fairly bad armor, low AP pen, and mediocre speed for a med

A lot of tier 8 meds are in need of a buff though

I think the pershing's buffed DPM should be the standard for 220 alpha meds in tier 8 tbh

[velvet aurora]

not OP, just annoying to fight with a light tank

[misty wing]

meds are supposed to be the best light counters though, since heavies and TDs struggle with them

[velvet aurora]

if ur pinned down by their team and ur faced with the turret armor

[misty wing]

meanwhile, people still cry about the Panther II being bad when its armor is quite tricky for tanks like the pershing to pen from the front (it's also faster than the pershing)

[velvet aurora]

yeah pershing sucks if ur not only facing the turret, but thats with a lot of tanks

[sleek fable]

wow what a scam

[strange thicket]

if you go to the tank through the intended line you get it for standard xp
if you go to it through the unintended line you pay more

[velvet aurora]

yeah it forces you to go via the jpanther, but i think if you dont have the line it will also cost you the extra amount of xp to grind

[sleek fable]

it's super expensive for tier 8

[strange thicket]

do go through the unintended line then?

[velvet aurora]

but the extra 77k u get when tiger P, u have to grind with the tier 6 JP for the tier 7 Jpanther

so if u like the tiger(P) why not grind it with that? instead of the new line

[sleek fable]

ngl it looks scary

[wanton fjord]

is the WZ-111 a good tank? its on sale

[copper swan]

no

[copper swan]

looks more like oil coming out of the barrel

[robust orchid]

Sooooooo, is it normal to have like 9,000+ deflected damage in Tier VII?

[past crane]

If you’re in a T29, yes.

[robust orchid]

How about in a Tiger I?

[misty wing]

Nah

[violet timber]

Do you have a screenshot?

[robust orchid]

A Tiger I holding a standoff, probably had RNGesus by their side :0
A gold deflection ribbon with a total of 9,180 deflected damage before finally receiving the final shot from an IS-2 on its side

No, the footage isn't mine, I screenshotted it

God I wish I was that Tiger, me deflecting shots would be like a Chaffee deflecting KV-2 shots using the sides QwQ

[blissful osprey]

But they're pretty potent. The buffs they received are nothing to scoff at.

[robust orchid]

Yeah, their turrets are thiccccc especially when facing forward, plus the fact that they are often backed with a high alpha TD makes things worse.

[violet timber]

They don’t have that good of turrets, it’s just their guns dpm

[faint swan]

imagine there is a custom skin for StuG III G named Disco Panzer XD

[blissful osprey]

If you're some MT or LT, the turret can be quite strong.

[misty wing]

Pershing turret is not that thick, it's just tricky to avoid hitting the mantlet sometimes

[blissful osprey]

That's what makes it strong. A nice, slab of armor you can't really avoid hitting.

[violet timber]

The mantlet isn’t even that thick tbh

[balmy compass]

If the tank is constantly moving you wouldn’t try to hit the mantlet anyway

[violet timber]

No, but if you do hit it it’s not a black hole

[blissful osprey]

But it's not something that you can't say is weak, either.

[violet timber]

I mean, the T32 which is known for having kinda weak pen still has a decent chance to go through. Here’s an IS-3 which your average tier 8 heavy tank pen

[blissful osprey]

Still doesn't mean it's a particularly weak turret. And by now, the T32 has rather average pen. It's a decent turret

[violet timber]

It’s meh, not great. Enough to get a troll bounce every once in a while, but it’s not a main selling point of the tank

[fast compass]

The pershing definitely bounces more than what armor inspector would lead you to believe. I don't have any hard proof for this. And yes there are matches where your turret just doesn't work. But more often than not, it can reliably bounce on that mantlet

[blissful osprey]

No, no, no, it needs to run 400+ mm turret armor, because clearly, this thing is not a good hulldown tank. What a shame. It's not like the mantlet almost covers the turret face, tsk.

[violet timber]

I was just pointing out how the Pershing turret isn’t as strong as you seem to believe it is 🤷‍♂️

[blissful osprey]

I said it's a decent turret. Never overhyped it.

[hollow notch]

Sure. It's not complete paper

But its competitors with better guns and mobility also have better armor

[violet timber]

This message says otherwise

[fast compass]

:') ik

Tbh that is the state of most tier 8 tech tree meds

[blissful osprey]

Isn't that the state of most tech tree tanks in the game?

[hollow notch]

Those actually have some mobility though

The Sp is stuck getting compared to heavies that completely crush it in all categories

[fast compass]

Oh super pershing is trash. Pershing is decent imo atm after the dpm buff.

[zealous marlin]

Worth it?

[mystic sleet]

I think the Kv-220 is worth it

[zealous marlin]

Reasons? I don't buy it if it's not broken or At least op

[mystic sleet]

Well, I heard that it's op, but watch some vehicle reviews on it and then decide wether you would like to own it or not.
As from what I've seen, it can be op against stock tier 5s and tier 4s

[zealous marlin]

OK thx

[thorny smelt]

Don't go for tier 5 unless you're a collector

[blissful osprey]

The Kanonenjagdpanzer is surprisingly fun. Also easy to ace due to its small cult following

[balmy compass]

Does it play like a bigger E 25?

[violet timber]

CDA 105 better

[balmy compass]

Kanonenjagdpanzer looks cooler imo

[silk charm]

Probably not the wz-111, cause we’re getting the wz-111-2 in a few days anyways for the event

[zealous marlin]

Loll ok

[solid gate]

Hi, does anyone know when Biltz is releasing the new Japanese heavy tank line?

[balmy compass]

Nope, nobody knows

[solid gate]

I thought they announced it back in November 2021 as a few more weeks?

[balmy compass]

It will probably come sooner rather then later but we don’t know exactly when

[solid gate]

Thanks!

[hollow notch]

The wz 111 is the worst IS-X style tank that you can possibly get (tier for tier)

[blissful osprey]

The things too squat smh.

[strange thicket]

not the glacial?

[hollow notch]

Stats that favor the 111:

dispersion factors (barely) [still complete trash]

Top speed (barely)

Effective power to weight on medium terrain is the only real advantage

And you give up gun depression, some mobility stats, and a ton of armor (upper gets trashed, lower gets even more trashed, sides lose a ton if track covering)

[strange thicket]

so glacial is 2nd worst

[thick trout]

Glacials camo is also kinda cool so it gets bonus points from me

[balmy compass]

Thats a funky half pikenose hull

[hollow notch]

And the IS-2SH is definitely worse than the glacial as well.

The glacial actually has a very solid armor profile, and most people seem to ignore that

[balmy compass]

What is the IS-2Sh good at?

[mystic sleet]

Having more gun depression than average Soviet made tanks

[hollow notch]

Gun depression and gun soft stats
again barely

[hollow notch]

There is a huge difference between the 112 and 111 if you ignore how you place it

[strange thicket]

what is solid about glacial's armor profile? yeah sure the upper is good but that is about it
turret is meh, sides aren't very good either
mobility trash, traverse sorta decent
maybe i am just biased, i bought the thing and hated it. would rather play is5 or is3

[hollow notch]

The upper is monstrous
And don't give me the turret is meh because it has hatches. Hatches are shot bait that attract poorly aimed shells, and everywhere other than those hatches is red to all but really high pen tanks. Don't sit still and allow them to get shot. Take away the hatches and you have a borderline broken tank (112 2).

Yes, it doesn't have mobility (plenty of IS tanks actually have that). It is a chunk of usable armor that most ISs lack though

[strange thicket]

i guess i just hated it for the mobility
because i would literally play the IS5 over it, any day.

[pallid flame]

i would rather play is2sh

[hollow notch]

Major bruh

[pallid flame]

Its fun

[solid gate]

Is-4 or is-7

[balmy compass]

I agree, its a fun tank to play

[hot rivet]

Who want to play

[balmy compass]

IS-7 is more meta

[snow wyvern]

why did wargaming make 60tp become a basically better is-7 ;-;

[plucky summit]

It isn’t…?

[snow wyvern]

No? i thought those two were similar but one was better...

[balmy compass]

60TP more like noob proofed E 100

[plucky summit]

Each play a different role, and both are competitively used

[snow wyvern]

60tp and is both have unpennable front turrets however 60tps hull is better armored except that smol slot in the middle

[plucky summit]

I’d argue that IS-7 has a more usable armor profile

[snow wyvern]

its side armor is troll

[plucky summit]

Anyways, 60TP is a conservative trading tank, as IS-7 is the aggressive and flexible tank

[snow wyvern]

i hate fighting both xd

[plucky summit]

Yeah, because both are OP 😂

[hot rivet]

Who want to play

[snow wyvern]

im a medium main, so op heavies have always been a problem

[mystic sleet]

I prefer fighting the Is-7, I just feel like I can pen it more easily for some reason. And I usually do, but not always.

[snow wyvern]

it has faster turret traverse and 60tp has a dispersion with a decent chance of missing my smaller tier 10s like stb and prog. it always gets e50 tho

[plucky summit]

I’d rather nail a 60TP over an IS-7 unless they’re hulldown

Then I’d rather shoot someone else and be useful

[snow wyvern]

i do not wana hulldown a 60tp period. cant pen its turret with heat LOL

wargaming be like: nerf type 71 for og turret armor xd

[violet timber]

IS-7 is More of an aggressive-push style heavy while the 60 is more a laid back-hold style heavy

[plucky summit]

😀

[snow wyvern]

as i said im a medium main and i wana start cross training to some t10 heavy lines but im having trouble choosing which i wana grind for

[plucky summit]

Literally 60TP, IS-7, or E100

[pallid flame]

Prefer 60tp

[mystic sleet]

Here's a tip:

Don't go for the Fv215b. Or T110e5.

[snow wyvern]

ok. why not?

[plucky summit]

They’re terrible tanks

[snow wyvern]

im hesitant to grind for 60tp because it = ugly lel

[pallid flame]

Worst heavys at the moment

[plucky summit]

Imagine getting tanks for their looks 🗿

[pallid flame]

me, 4005 is beautiful

[snow wyvern]

i do that casue i only use t10s in training rooms ; -;

[plucky summit]

I, too, am a frequent training room visitor, so I can flex show people tanks they don’t usually see or know much about

[snow wyvern]

what about waiting for type 71? im currently on the leopard 1 line abouta finish my 4th medium should i just wait? or is type 71 not supposed to be good

[pallid flame]

The type 71 will be good.

[snow wyvern]

i hear its tier 5 and 6 are supposed to be trash

ill just free xp through them both xd

[thick trout]

The only reason I researched the entire M48 high tier line was because I had a certificate for the legendary camo from some container or something I can't remember 😎

[snow wyvern]

f imagine getting legendary camo certificate and then grinding a line just to redeem it L

[plucky summit]

I would like to write a petition to put all players who buy legendary camos with gold into an asylum

[snow wyvern]

y

[violet timber]

And this is where I leave

[snow wyvern]

quietly takes legendary camos off of my t10s...

[plucky summit]

I have Battle Hardened because I'm a chad, not because of gold

[violet timber]

STA-1 Rin my beloved

[snow wyvern]

lol, stb adamant :d

[plucky summit]

STA-1 run.

[violet timber]

If you buy the E100 Stalwart camo though, you have problems. Just use carbon lmao

[snow wyvern]

Sta-1 is bad wdym. I hated it

[violet timber]

Nah bro STA-1 is good

[balmy compass]

but I like black

[snow wyvern]

says U. i personally quite like type 61 as a tier 9

[violet timber]

Great, carbon camo exists

[snow wyvern]

i wonder if wargaming needs a tester for type 71 tier 9 tech tree tank

[balmy compass]

its hard to get that camo

[pallid flame]

I think I actually have the carbon camo on my e100 lol

[balmy compass]

Stalwart is darker then carbon anyway

[pallid flame]

yeah

[hollow plover]

should i use 170k fxp to go to stb1 or no

[plucky summit]

Only if you spend it on modules, not tanks

[hollow plover]

i got all the modules on type 61 so i guess i gotta grind it out nice

[hollow notch]

Yessssss

[plucky summit]

B)

[hollow notch]

Fastest grind I ever did. Go from tier 7 stock to 10 (this was before all those discounts on research and boosters for the new guys) in under 1 week

[strange thicket]

how do you acquire them then

[plucky summit]

You don't 😎

[balmy compass]

they gambled on crates (like how to get the Skorp camo)

[plucky summit]

Actually it was from the Old Guard event or whatever, I think, or the one before that involved the L.Tr., T1, and MS-1 models

Either way I sure didn't use gold for it =>

[pallid flame]

oh that event

[balmy compass]

I don't remember that event giving out a free legendary camo

[plucky summit]

I barely remember too, but it didn’t appear in my inventory from nothing 😎

[brave juniper]

It did, for the ms1

[balmy compass]

That was from the crates, not as a absolute reward, besides Battle-Hardened is for the IS-7

[blissful osprey]

That would put me within an asylum, an asylum, and another asylum since I've done that three times already.

[balmy compass]

Does anyone know why the legendary camo for O-47 doesn’t change the look of the garage icon like other legendary camos?

[boreal spruce]

strange. WG moment

[kind flicker]

quick question, what tanks have the least or worst armour?

[violet timber]

Usually light tanks

[kind flicker]

but what tank specifically?

[violet timber]

Probably the SP 1C

[thorny smelt]

You forgot the Grille 15 line

[violet timber]

That's why I said usually

[kind flicker]

i know the m41, electo, nashorn but what others at lower tiers

[violet timber]

SP 1C has worse armor than the M41, but the same as the Alecto

[balmy compass]

SP 1 C has the least armor in the game

[remote kindle]

After watching alot of videos and doing games for gold i bought 3 crates for 1500. It’s my 2nd time doing this. Opening all of them nothing except for grey things and blue. It’s my sixth crate opened and still nothing. RNG ain’t in my side.

[violet timber]

Hull armor puts it higher though

[craggy mauve]

Normally how it is. Drain you of the free Gold they give and make you frustrated with RNG so that you use real money. Its common place and prominent in other games that use it

Hook line and sinker tactics

[remote kindle]

Same as Mcdo for example. They give a toy to lil kids so common every kid got one so they buy more. And why would they put get gold at 7 crate. WHY I AIN’T DOING THIS AGAIN. I FARM 1 AND A HALF MONTHS FOR GOLD.

[craggy mauve]

Mhm, War Thunder ||A direct contender to Wargaming WoT line|| does the same thing, but they just frustrate you by putting vehicles where they don’t belong so that you want to buy their often blatantly over powered premium vehicles or too speed up the grind

[remote kindle]

That’s how they make you put 5 bucks on a game that i would probably forget in 5 years.

[tepid geyser]

L cope

[blissful osprey]

Oh boy

[dim pollen]

Ru 251, M4 sherman, chaffee, amx elc bis (u bump into something n u die)

[hollow notch]

Ru251 rear armor

[violet timber]

Why in the world is the Sherman here? The other’s I can see, but the Sherman has decent armor

[misty wing]

Ngl I really like how PC made the T54E1 into a heavy
It's kinda weird that the T57 is the only heavy in its line, and the T54E2 is a heavy, so why not the E1 as well

[pallid flame]

It’s blitz not pc

[balmy compass]

8mm hehe

[misty wing]

Ok and?

[pallid flame]

Go play blitz if you want that lmao

[misty wing]

How about you stop defending something that makes no sense

I get that blitz and PC are supposed to have their differences, but the difference should never be that one is just straight up worse

And in this case, PC having designated the T54E1 as a heavy makes A LOT more sense, and if you can't see that then you're trolling

[pallid flame]

you’re the one who’s not happy about something but okay

[misty wing]

And you're the one unwilling to make a good change + you haven't made a single real argument

Also my first statement was "I really like the way PC did x", which is anything but an unhappy statement

[hollow notch]

Good change?

More along the lines of meaningless change

[misty wing]

Tech tree cohesion and logic is pretty important to me

[pallid flame]

? oh yeah let me change it’s class. I’m deffo Wg

[misty wing]

How is it meaningless to make the transition between tanks in a tech tree more cohesive, and to give proper relations to tanks that were similar irl

[hollow notch]

In pc the tanks class actually matters because you have to deal with a trash crew training system.

Here its literally meaningless

Also=
t69 fairly lightweight vehicle

T57 a heavy vehicle

The 54 is right in the middle. It's not like it's a light tank. No. It's a freaking medium

[misty wing]

All of your input had been fairly irrelevant and worthless
If you're gonna talk, make an actual argument

[pallid flame]

Let’s not get angry here

[misty wing]

How about you stop making troll comments and provide actual input like @hollow notch is

Then just don't talk lol

[pallid flame]

because I’m not that bothered to talk about it

[misty wing]

And what about the way the T54E2 exists as a heavy?

And the fact that the last 3 vehicles of the line go from light to medium to heavy that quickly is kind of problematic in and of itself imo

In an ideal world I think T69 -> T54E1 -> T77 -> T57 would make the most sense, but that's never gonna happen

(with the T69 and T54E1 downtiered, and the T77 uptiered from where they are now)

[silk charm]

Wz-112-2 or 112 glacial?

[misty wing]

112-2

[blissful osprey]

Wow. Surprisingly aggressive.

[misty wing]

Me?

[nimble vessel]

bourrasque never

[blissful osprey]

All of you.

[silk charm]

one can dream

[blissful osprey]

To a certain point.

[nimble vessel]

crates only lol

[robust orchid]

WZ-112-2 Hull actually has more armour than IS-3/6/8 From what I saw in combat, of course

[silk charm]

that bustle rack looks really nice

[ebon nacelle]

Waiting for the fv4202 to be relevant 💀

[umbral hamlet]

it already is bruh 💀

[ebon nacelle]

Talk to me when it isn't a Walmart bargain bin vickers 🗿

[strange thicket]

no comment

[blissful osprey]

Literally the best Vickers you could get. The ones from Target suck.

[misty wing]

Costco Vickers

[ebon nacelle]

krogers vickers

[past fractal]

Vickers vickers

[ebon nacelle]

Vickers Vickers light 105

[night citrus]

vickers nickers

[ebon nacelle]

woah, i dont like where this is going

[misty wing]

Food4Less Vickers

[umbral hamlet]

Snickers Vickers

[velvet aurora]

and now the first word without the letter s

[pure scaffold]

How good is the t62 a ?

[trail flint]

i have it

[trail flint]

i have it and drive it for a long time and is not that bad but obj 140 is better for sure

[pure scaffold]

Thx

On those tanks is the lower armor ok ? Like can you resist

[trail flint]

literaly every tank can damage you for bouth of them

[pure scaffold]

But do you get absolutely destroyed

[strange thicket]

t62a is better than obj

[strange thicket]

very good. solid turret, great gun, okay mobility.
a very good tank. it is better than the obj 140 because it has a better turret but the mobility is worse
gun is the same on both except obj shoots AP while t62a shoots apcr

[lucid kelp]

Bring back kv5 in shop.
Not again the Chrysler K and is2h bundle.

[thorny smelt]

That's new in Store?

[lucid kelp]

Yes.
Almost every 3 months you can see these bundles again:
-feline family ( Panther 8.8, panther M10, tiger 131)

• Ice and Fire ( WZ Blaze, WZ 112 glacial)
• Chrysler k and Is2h

[thorny smelt]

It's getting bland

[acoustic galleon]

All new tanks are released in crates so they have to recycle the old bundles.

[robust orchid]

Is it just me or is the Tiger II with Cali and APCR able to pen IS-3 and 252U turrets when facehugging?

[strange thicket]

you can shoot their cupolas and turret roofs yes, because the tank is significantly taller than them both

[robust orchid]

How about the turret cheeks? I think I penned a 252U yesterday using a Tiger II with calibrated shells when it was facehugging me

[wise moth]

You're not going through the IS-3 turret lol

[strange thicket]

You can
through the roof and hatches
in a face hug that is

[strange thicket]

i am not sure about the turret cheeks but in a face hug impossible to hit weakspots(really small) because exponentially easier to hit

[past fractal]

It can on 252’s mantlet, which has a small weakspot that can be penned by high pen prammo
Dont try it on is3 though

[rotund wave]

I think devs should restore the old sound from ML-20S gun from ISU152 because it sound like 130mm gun, like come on its a 152 Howitzer gun

[outer sand]

any tips here
no one wanted to help me at #general-blitz-discussion so i will go here
also i forgor

[acoustic galleon]

Run double repairs and tungsten shells as consumables.

Large food, gear oil and large fuel as provisions.

Always play hull down, your frontal armor is strong but sides are relatively weak, don't expose them.

[outer sand]

danke

[solid gate]

Why dosnt wg sell the kv220 on any server besides eu

[violet timber]

Imagine not running multi, adrenaline, and tungsten smh

[balmy compass]

Large food, large fuel and protective kit.
Multi, tungsten and adrenaline

[acoustic galleon]

I have tried running that combo on my VK45b and honestly it very rarely works, I will rather have double repairs in my heavy.

[violet timber]

It’s more of an aggressive load out, so it’s kinda playstyle dependent

[acoustic galleon]

Ye, I tend to play defensive and try to absorb damage.

[hollow notch]

Not really
More aggressive= taking more hits= more repairs needed

[solid gate]

Why is the M26 still a thing

[hollow notch]

What's wrong with it?

[solid gate]

It’s tier 8.

[hollow notch]

And?

[violet timber]

I tend to push with it and use the increased damage + increased dpm to clear tanks quickly

[coral canopy]

WG, Any Ideas of when or if ever the T6E1 is going to be for sale? Last time was 2-3 years ago 😦

[blissful osprey]

Don’t question the Oklahoma pfp. You cannot. They’re too strong.

[balmy compass]

IS-3 has rather good armor

[violet timber]

Hull down.

[balmy compass]

The entire tank has sloped armor except behind the tracks

Make the front impenetrable like the 268/4?

Its already like that if you use what gun depression you have

[pallid flame]

ok

then go play another tank lol

everybody uses prammo lmao. Why you carrying 2 for?

[violet timber]

They’re free to play smh, don’t you know? Prammo is for P2W players!!!11!1!

Besides, just aim lmao. 225 is not too shabby for a tier 8 heavy

[pallid flame]

That’s easy to penetrate

[violet timber]

Again, just aim?

[blissful osprey]

The T32 is still worse hmph

Everyone knows the T32 is crap with its totally, definitely not average 218mm pen.

[plucky summit]

That looks like PC KV-4

[balmy compass]

you have started a very debatable topic

[plucky summit]

Skill issue

[finite hill]

Wdym

No skill issue just facts

[plucky summit]

It’s busted, but not battle-breaking 😂

[balmy compass]

incredibly busted

[violet timber]

I feel as if you are the player who buys tanks in tier 10 when the highest tech tree tank you have is tier 4. You then try to play against real people how you played against the bots, get absolutely wrecked, and complain about how the tank you bought is bad or match making is rigged

[blissful hamlet]

Well, i got my IS-7 without using prammo in IS-3 and 8, I didn't suffer much, still, I don't understand why that guy complained about the Kv-4 being "too armored"

[fleet berry]

Aidan C. ACE#4990 was muted

[brave juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-21913959

[blissful hamlet]

Basically

[outer cloud]

Which one should I buy? Which one is better
Vk90 or Sconq?

[balmy compass]

VK 90: one of the best German superheavies, it can sidescrape very well and has great frontal turret armor
Super Conquerer: big British tank with good reload and damage

[plucky summit]

VK 90 is arguably better

[past crane]

First make sure you have tech tree Tier X tanks so you're not ruining the playerbase by buying your way into T10
Second: VK90 is overall a better choice.

[finite hill]

First im not a bot or noob second ive played the game for 3 years 3rd i hav 9 tech tree t10 maybe it was a bit overthe top but for my honest opinion its armour is ok its gun is just bad rly bad and its speed is avg i giv it 7.8/10

Omg and can people stop sayi ng skill issuse when i say an opinion just stupid behaviour

[violet timber]

7.8/10 doesn't seem like "crap" to me but okay

[finite hill]

Ya didmt i say i was over the top

[violet timber]

You were waaaay over the top then, especially after calling it the worst tier 10

[finite hill]

Meh i was over the top

Well ive done 250 games in it when i did 150games i had 69%wr and 2.8avg daamge its went down to 61%wr 2.5avg damage thats why i was over the top but i do find TDs overall just teamdependent its a good tank but not busted only busted against noobs

[lyric copper]

dunno anyone who says something is very bad to the point of regretting getting it, only to then give it a 7.8/10

[finite hill]

Haha very funny

Last ace i got in it for now cos u need like 7 k to ace i but ive aced it 5times so not bad i guess

Oh let me guess "sKiLl isSuEs"

[violet timber]

250 battles and only 5 aces? Did you just get it recently?

[finite hill]

Yes but i aced it 4 times in 20 games but now good players are us ing it its rly hard to ace

Let me guess

Skill issues

[violet timber]

Nah, just wondering. If you'd gotten it right when it came out, then it'd be a skill issue

[finite hill]

I dont hate tye tank but the gun is questionable

[violet timber]

Run Vstabs and gld, it works better from what I've found

[balmy compass]

imo with the armor and reactive consumable the gun should be questionable

[finite hill]

The guns HE is just no

But the gold amo is good

[violet timber]

The HE isn't that bad

[lyric copper]

you get close

you have the armour to do so

[finite hill]

57mil of pen only 800alpha rly Bad compAred to other 152mm

[violet timber]

690 alpha is much better than any other 152, as well as 600 on prammo

[plucky summit]

Just treat it like E100's gun

[finite hill]

In face hug it ist to op as some smart people shoot the engine deck

[violet timber]

Don't facehug then?

[plucky summit]

You're not gonna (in your right mind) facehug in 7v7 battles

[lyric copper]

you quite literally outtrade all but 2 tier X tanks lol

[finite hill]

Well ngl the gold is good i find tye tank like a hvy with alpha

[violet timber]

And the armor to force them to fire prammo as well, giving you even better trades

[lyric copper]

oh and make sure to pop reactive before going in!

[finite hill]

I dont face hug im just sa ying a weakspot what u might not know about

[violet timber]

If you run enhanced, the 183 has about a 50/50 shot of penetrating you if you wiggle, and the Jag will just have to fire prammo

[lyric copper]

ah yes IS7 prammo does 400 on average?

HAHA NOPE 200 BOZO, I PRESSED A BUTTON AND YOUR PRAMMO BECAME WORTHLESS, SHOULDA USED STANDARD

V4 things baby

[violet timber]

If the IS-7 can even hit your hatch, since it doesn't have a hope in hell of going in anywhere else

[finite hill]

Always use cali shells in a 1v1 with another obj if u run gun rammer u carnt pen tye lower plate

[violet timber]

Why would you use rammer on the V4 anyways?

[lyric copper]

yes aim at the cupola whilst it slams a 690 into you

oh and its prammo does 600

oh and it gets sandbag armour

oh and it gets reactive armour

oh and it has more than 2.8k dpm

[finite hill]

Im just saying whats the prob you sound like a person who will nit pick at eny tiny suggestion

[violet timber]

It doesn't have sandbags and only has 2.8k dpm if you run rammer

[finite hill]

Just saying it dont hav sand bag armour

[lyric copper]

ah yeah that got removed

but still

dont need to run CS when your prammo still outtrades many tier Xs

[violet timber]

I mainly run it because 330 HEAT while frontline is a bit of a yikes

[finite hill]

Ngl we haven't talked about t he troll staliminium at the side of the tank it is so funny

It troll armour like is7

[balmy compass]

but its like the 268, just shoot the gun cabin

[plucky summit]

Yeah it's just a more consistent shot

[green iris]

What’s good way to use the kv1’s armour?

[balmy compass]

Hulldown

[violet timber]

Angle

[green iris]

Is it good at side scraping

[violet timber]

As long as you don't overangle

[green iris]

Can’t wait till I get that 400 dmg gun 😄

[hard cedar]

That gun sucks so.

[green iris]

But it looks so powerful 😦

[thick trout]

It has awful penetration so everything will look red and you'll have to HE splash for like 50dmg if you hit, go for the 200dmg gun it's nice and reliable

[green iris]

K

[plucky summit]

More reliable, at least, they killed the accuracy in their KV-1 nerfing spree

[wise moth]

I use rammer. The DPM is pretty awful without it, since I feel like a lot of the time it goes to waste on lower HP targets

[misty wing]

cali might be kinda nice rn, but once the v4 hype dies away and they become rare, rammer is gonna be a lot more useful

[brave juniper]

If it wasn't for the fact i can't pen a red v4 without Cali i wouldn't be running it, so I'm not gonna risk having to facehug a fellow v4 with rammer lol

[misty wing]

in a facehug the cupola is an easy pen
especially since the V4 can't really risk wiggling

[wise moth]

I usually just avoid other V4’s, and I try to avoid facehugs. Close combat makes you very vulnerable in a V4

[brave juniper]

That do be the case, but many v4s do facehug me even if I'm far away lol, the skill shines when I pen them but they keep using ap fighting a fellow V4 😂

[balmy compass]

I use my teamates as meatshields and wait for the v4 to rotate a bit so I can hit em

[viral fox]

when is japanese heavy type 71 coming into the game?

[vague loom]

9.0 I think

[brave juniper]

That's just speculation nothing's been said or confirmed

[vague loom]

That’s why I said I think

[outer cloud]

I have 20 tier10 tanks. And thank you!

[pallid tiger]

👀

[final vapor]

Is Chrysler k a good tank?

[plucky summit]

Not bad, sure.

[blissful osprey]

Well, at this point, if you really wanted an American heavy at Tier VIII armed with any sort of 105mm T5E1, you'd sorta just use the T32. Heck, for 18.3k gold you can bother to permanently enrich it and make it a pseudo-premium if you really wanted to.

[pallid flame]

Yeah

[dim pollen]

Man I so much wanna love panther due to its historical background but it sucks on the battlefield. U need to be extremely lucky otherwise u r screwed

[pallid flame]

Welp

[misty wing]

Panther is pretty good

[thorny smelt]

Anti-Smasher and Anti-Annihilator tank

[strange thicket]

that would be t29

[misty wing]

that would be every tier 9 or 10

[strange thicket]

8*

[misty wing]

I'd rather just play tier 10 so I don't have to even see how ugly the anni is

[dim pollen]

Lol who doesn't hate annihilator until it's in ur team.

[blissful osprey]

I hate the anni whether or not it's in my team

[dim pollen]

Lol. Obviously.

Anyone completed tht high calibre mission to get 4 crates? Which tanks did u get?

[thorny smelt]

Gravedigger:

[dim pollen]

Lucky u

[thorny smelt]

@blissful osprey

[blissful osprey]

Why did you ping me for no reason?

[thorny smelt]

Thoughts on Gravedigger on your team or the enemy team

[blissful osprey]

Yeah, you're not getting that.

[plucky summit]

Gravedigger is bad™

[thorny smelt]

Dispersion go brrrrr

[misty wing]

If it's on my team I'm more likely to see how ugly it is

[halcyon geyser]

e50m or is7 as next t10, ive researched both just dk which one to buy first

[acoustic galleon]

I think it looks cool.

[umbral hamlet]

they're both great tanks
e50m has a better gun
is7 is more tanky

[final vapor]

4 crates? Wasn't it 2 crates or am I suffering from some memory loss