vehicles-discussion

[plucky summit]

Oh boy.

[livid moss]

😀

Very complicated?

[plucky summit]

Nah lol

[misty wing]

@plucky summit make IS-8 hull with a Pershing turret

[plucky summit]

@livid moss

[misty wing]

Beautiful

[plucky summit]

Uh

No u I guess

[livid moss]

Cringe

[plucky summit]

Your idea <3

[livid moss]

Hehe

From which software do you make these?

[plucky summit]

Apple Pages

[livid moss]

IOS?

[plucky summit]

Mac, yep

[livid moss]

Any software for Android?

[plucky summit]

I am not aware of any

[livid moss]

Ook

[hollow moth]

It feels like you're a prisioner being interrogated

[past fractal]

Any tips for LTTB?

[sweet geode]

Just drive around the enemy.

[copper swan]

which editor?

[dusk jolt]

is the krv a good tank? should I grind for it? (kranvagn)

[blissful osprey]

It moves like a brick. The turret does not turn fast. The hull armor is nigh nonexistent. But, it has something that makes it good this day and age: turret armor. See, it has a lot of turret armor. This allows it to set up on hills and sit there for as long as you need to pull off some shots, granting great damage capability if it's allowed to get into position. So is it a good tank? Yes, but it depends on how and where you use it.

[past fractal]

Be careful not to overexpose your turret though. It might not be penned by standard or most premium shells, but it still gets chipped away by HE. A good HE to the turret can disable a crew or two. If you use one repair kit, two super consumables setup, thats a big downside

[dusk jolt]

Thank you so much! I'll continue the grind!

[balmy compass]

Hey @plucky summit could you do a Panzer III A with Grille turret and Jagpanther II top gun for me when you can?

[acoustic galleon]

Its non existent DPM makes even that iffy.

I wish they removed the Auto-reloaders from Kran and Emil II and just give them autoloaders. Maybe a second gun option.

[blissful osprey]

Just treat it like a single shot tank and use the other two shells as a way to burst down targets?

[fierce pawn]

Refined

[violet timber]

Vstabs

[umbral hamlet]

always vstabs on quick-burst autoladers

[mighty kestrel]

idk, refined seems better in all situations for this tank

[umbral hamlet]

dispersion after firing isn't shown here

look up in Blitzhangar

[mighty kestrel]

@umbral hamlet , not helpfull...it says 0 for all moving values. imo with 4 seconds intra, the after shot dispersion doesnt matter cus when next shell is ready its already to 0 after 4 seconds

[umbral hamlet]

what the

it is perfectly working for me

[wise moth]

I mean with a 4s interclip, dispersion after firing isn’t really relevant

[mighty kestrel]

exactly

[umbral hamlet]

it's 4.0 dispersion with trash aim time

also dispersion while rotating the turret isn't the best either

[misty wing]

My friend and I both found refined gun to be better

[balmy compass]

What do you guys think of the Panzer 58?

[strange ingot]

Average medium tank

Nothing special or at least fun

[misty wing]

Probably below average tbh

[strange ingot]

Yeah probably, because t8 is already flooded with much better tanks

[lyric pond]

Just had a game where every shot I fired hit the track and dealt 0 damage

[balmy compass]

track crit

[misty wing]

The hull armor isn't actually that bad, it's significantly buffed from PC/irl

[balmy compass]

The Krav was built irl?

[balmy compass]

Yeah I can see that, looking at the basic stats ingame it looks like a more armored Ru-251 without the funny HE pen

[misty wing]

More like a faster indien panzer

[balmy compass]

I didn’t play the indien panzer

[misty wing]

Neither did I

[violet timber]

Only the hull

[balmy compass]

I thought that was the Emil II

[misty wing]

They'll all prototypes of the same project, so basically the same thing

[balmy compass]

Ah I see

[blissful osprey]

That’s sounds like an issue we cannot help you in any other way other than “aim better.”

[hybrid bloom]

Please add The Bt-42 As A IV light german tank pls

[gusty dew]

try not to aim near the track wheels and the tracks

[graceful iris]

can pantera replace progetto for same role in tours? And should it?

[lyric pond]

Aimed in the middle of the hull of a wz 121 and an Amx 30 1er and both hit the track lmao

[gusty dew]

what tank were you in

[gusty dew]

good question. not sure really.

[lyric pond]

Hori type II, I don’t expect to hit every shot in that.. thing but I could expect to at least hit those

[gusty dew]

yes, true. but in general, if you can hit anything other than the side and pen, then hit that other thing

if the side is visible, the turret is likely visible too, and penable. Also, you're in a td, gold should go right through the majority of the armour profiles of the two tanks you mentioned.

[gusty dew]

As you can see, statistically, the pantera is better than the progetto.

[misty wing]

Nah, progetto is better, and I would not use either in tours

[gusty dew]

@graceful iris Ignoring the skoda t27, you can see that, based on player stats, the progetto is quite a bit better than the pantera

[gusty dew]

That is your opinion. In my opinion, it all depends on personal preference. If you are a good player in the pantera, use it above the progetto, as the pantera is statistically better than the progetto.

But, if the pantera is not a tank which you are good in, but the progetto is, then, of course, use the progetto

[misty wing]

There's really no reason why you'd be comfortable in one but not the other. Progetto is just better because of the alpha, faster intra clip and faster traverse

[gusty dew]

prog doesn;t have faster intra clip

look at the screenshots above. It has better intro clip only for the first round, but for the other two round, the pantera is a second or so quicker

[violet timber]

Why German?

[violet timber]

The better question is should you use either in tours. The answer is no.

[valid gale]

It literally shows the cycle time by the shell count pantera is 3 seconds prog is 2.5

[gusty dew]

My mistake

But, it does autoreload quicker.

[tough dune]

Pantera's mobility got nerfed for a useless upper plate armour buff. It does have better penetration over progetto.

[gusty dew]

That is your opinion. There are plenty of players out there who would do well in tourney with the prog

[gusty dew]

At the same time, it is a matter of whether or not you have a better tank than the prog for tourney. If you do, then, naturally, use that better tank.

[thick trout]

Progs gun is far superior to panteras, faster reload when empty and better intraclip means it can dump quicker keep pumping out more damage.

[gusty dew]

do you have the prog and the pantera?

[thick trout]

Yup, pantera was great fun to play, but I played it before the speed nerf which hurt it even more compared to the prog

[violet timber]

Just because Prog is a good pubs tank does not make it a good tourney tank. It would get torn apart in tourneys as soon as it’s spotted

[gusty dew]

but is the prog as fun as the pantera?

[misty wing]

It literally says 2.5 seconds for the progetto and 3 seconds for the Pantera

[gusty dew]

I've already acknowledged that mistake

[misty wing]

Oops someone already pointed that out, oh well

[misty wing]

It's not an opinion, both the progetto and Pantera will get destroyed by players in meta tanks in tourneys if the skill level is the same

[thick trout]

Nah you'd run it in a pair as a way to eradicate any lone tanks or to farm from flanks then reposition quickly, it'll work but it takes coordination

@gusty dew yeah for sure, the mobility was the big difference and that got nerfed at the same time they decided to buff the mantlet from paper to paper for everyone but tier 7 meds for no reason

[violet timber]

Is would work, but there are better tanks at the tier for doing that

[thick trout]

The only other tank I can think of off the top of my head that could do nearly the same would be the defender mk1 and that's a bit too big, slow and vulnerable on a reload

[graceful iris]

Eh my team used double prog few times and it worked nice

[graceful iris]

Ye ik pros and cons of each tanks and how they compare. Prog has major advantage in interclip and better single shot dpm. Pantera can reload second and third shell a lot faster though so it can probably be played as autoloader.. i only played it like 5 times on friend's acc so I don't really know much about it lol

[violet timber]

I would rather use double 13 90 more camo and more speed

[graceful iris]

Dunno. Personal preference mostly

[violet timber]

But overall meds/lights in tier 8 tourneys are a bad idea imo, seeing as you can just run the T32 with speed boost

[graceful iris]

Yea in most cases we just took full heavy team. Depending on map and plan

[thick trout]

13 90s don't have the flexibility of the prog either, no depression or elevation so can't use angles from flanks, no armour unlike the progs troll turret so can be HEd or penned with ease rather than a little bouncy when hulldown. They are better speed wise but with 1350 clip potential between two tanks (provided all shots pen) and then a 15 sec reload isn't really great for taking a target out. The progs can do 1920 in 11 sec or 2.4k in 17 sec if it's a healthy target to kill so it's got the upper hand there too.

[graceful iris]

Though is there a chance of wg giving prog and/or action x away again? In free event like blitz cup streams

[violet timber]

I personally would prefer the 13 90 just because of its camo and speed, but that’s just me

[wise moth]

I just don’t really see much of a point in running a prog tbh. I get that it’s the meta opinion, but I just don’t think it’s that good compared to the American meds. T69 is basically just a prog with more DPM and armor, and only loses a little bit of mobility (2hp/t and 3km/h top speed).

And ofc the post buff M26 exists. Which is really the only med worth picking imo.

Just take 3xM26, and 4xT32 and you’ll probably roll most teams at tier 8 without issue

[boreal spruce]

@shell robin seen this monstrosity?

[shell robin]

Not in game, nor in history

Is that stock?

I know people said it's supposed to be influenced by the tiger, but i don't see it

[cobalt aspen]

I wanted to have this tank in the blitz, WG add it to us please

[boreal spruce]

i think it isnt stock. tech tree tier 7

[balmy compass]

looks similar to panzer V/IV

[shell robin]

I'm still peeved at the name more than the tank itself

[boreal spruce]

i think WG just randomly added odd sounding vowels together to get the name of their tanks.

tbh i would have wanted a type 5 heavy at tier 10 but

[shell robin]

I wonder if WG tried to understand the imperial japanese naming conventions and gave up

Either that, or the letter O gives pc players flashbacks

[boreal spruce]

i dont think they even considered it.

[shell robin]

They probably didn't.

[cobalt aspen]

Yes, and it would be the Panther with the most powerful engine of all (reaches 1005 horsepower with all engine equipment)

in Tier VII

[shell robin]

The awful panzer is like the t-54 ltw in that it's a light version of it's medium counterpart

[balmy compass]

I dont think we need a ramming medium, and we already have alot of panther varients

[shell robin]

It's a light tank

[boreal spruce]

its halfway between light and medium, i dont like it (i have it on PC) . its like a pz4/5 but uptiered with a better gun

[shell robin]

There's a reason they call it the awful panzer

[balmy compass]

panther itself already goes pretty fast for being kinda heavy

[boreal spruce]

yeah, panthers are the ramming meds

@shell robin here it is stock

[shell robin]

That turret looks like the hunter turret from tanki online

[boreal spruce]

thats what i thought.

they like adding that angled mantlet under the barrel. it seems since the Ho Ri has it these heavys need it too

[cobalt aspen]

It's a different Panther from the others, it's much faster, less armored, and with a fast-firing cannon, (and as it's a light one, it must have some "buff" in camouflage and Spot)

[shell robin]

It reminded me of the experimental tank gun on the O-Ni and O-Ho

[boreal spruce]

yup i see that. is is historical though?

[shell robin]

To my knowledge, no. Japan had a mantlet like that, except it was flat (the stock gun on the Ho-Ri I i think has it)

[boreal spruce]

ah yes, im just remebering the japanese chi to's which all had flat mantlets..

[shell robin]

There isn't really a reason why Japan never had bulging mantlets like the US or Germany. I suspect it was for price reduction, since Japan was tight on resources and money.

[boreal spruce]

yeah, materials were hard to come buy in the war.
they actually weren't too flat ..

[shell robin]

Flatter than most.

But yea, The Ju-To hull looks like the Ho-Ri II hull, though i bet it's less armor for balance reasons

[blissful osprey]

That'd be nice to see, honestly.

[hard cedar]

😶

[kind flicker]

i need the help, how do you play isu 152?

[oak ore]

There’s honestly a verity of play styles w/ the isu, there rlly isn’t a clear answer, just depends if u like to play campy or aggressive

[kind flicker]

campy for me

[oak ore]

There’s ur answer

[misty wing]

I have 1.1 million free xp and I don't know what to do with it

Well, I want to free xp a tank but I can't decide

[strange thicket]

what tanks are left you haven't ground

[misty wing]

IS-4, both Russian meds, E3, E5, Patton, every British line except the TDs, progetto, every French line

[hollow notch]

Prog or 4202

Very unique tanks, and it looks like you have plenty of normal tanks to work with

[misty wing]

Oh and jageroo, maus, and Leo 1 😅

Yeah progetto is probably the only one that doesn't have a clear overlap with the stuff I already have

[blissful osprey]

Get the E5 and experience my pain.

[strange thicket]

obj 140
very fun making the alright turret and nice hull armor work

54 ltwt yes
tiger 2 was a little meh for me, personally didn't keep it.
but i think it is still pretty good for tier 8

[graceful iris]

Tiger is my fav tank in game so my answer should be pretty obvious lol

It's a beast if you master angling and wiggling

[misty wing]

I already have the T-22 and 907

[strange thicket]

oh
sadge, leo 1 it is

[livid moss]

@plucky summit make Sherman firefly with MAUS hull

[misty wing]

1491 average 💀

[blissful osprey]

Better than my stats tho

[misty wing]

superpershing sucks though

[past fractal]

How bout mine

[past fractal]

I’d argue the gun on it is fairly worthwhile to play with

Just the speed and armor really screws it up

[misty wing]

nah the gun is pretty bad, dpm is garbage for a 90mm
just play the sheriff, it's way better

[past fractal]

I mean the penetration

265 apcr pen is no joke still, for a medium

[blissful osprey]

If you want a heavily armed and armored medium just play the T32 lol

[misty wing]

it has 258 apcr pen

[past fractal]

With cali its like 265

[misty wing]

nah t32 is a heavy through and through

[past fractal]

Oh no its even better

271 mm APCR pen for a medium with a 90 mm

[misty wing]

it's 271 with cali, but why would you run that and make your dpm even worse than it already is
it doesn't even have heat, so the difference isn't that huge

[blissful osprey]

That's sorta the point...

[misty wing]

we can't tell when you clearly implied that it was a heavily armed and armored medium

[blissful osprey]

What I meant is that you really can't have the two worlds without it being a heavy tank (I guess the T26E5 exists, but that just happens to be a slow Pershing).

[misty wing]

not really, it has 240 alpha

but it's better than the superpershing in basically every way

it's super underrated honestly, I don't see anyone ever playing it

[blissful osprey]

Doesn't the Super Persh have better hull armor tho? I'm not sure.

[misty wing]

kinda, but it doesn't really matter

I just had a T32 platoon call to go port side on port bay...

[valid gale]

Super Pershing’s armor creates an effect that ultimately defeats its own armor

[blissful osprey]

Well, it is what it is.

[strange thicket]

Yes but the turret is easy to go through and sides are trash
Sheriff is just a big Pershing yes.
But is not slow the mobility is aight as a heavium. Turret is super good

[misty wing]

and the gun is oh so sweet

@blissful osprey new tank smell

[past fractal]

agressive sniff

[graceful iris]

Here's me lol

ignore ratings, ik i suck

[misty wing]

why don't you play tier 10

or more tier 10, rather

[solid gate]

Hey I played 53 games on Platin League, when will I get the ranked Camo ?

[velvet aurora]

yes

[tribal knot]

End of rating season ig?

Most games usually gave their ranked rewards at the end of the season

[solid gate]

Ah okay thanks, I thought I will get it directly after 50 games

[past fractal]

Dw ratings bad most of the time

[misty wing]

@plucky summit IS-7 hull with T30 turret

[past fractal]

@plucky summit Try to Make IS-4 look as much as ST-1

[misty wing]

he refused that type of challenge last time

[past fractal]

ST-1 stock turret is allowed if u can

Wait I got better idea

Create a four letter word using only TOG IIs as the lines for the letters @plucky summit

[misty wing]

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean

[past fractal]

I meant

Letters but only TOG IIs are supposed to be the lines

[misty wing]

you mean the letters are made of tog IIs?

[past fractal]

Yup

[graceful iris]

i did a dumb decision.. sold all of my t10s for luxury lounge event

But I'll probably get IS-7 back today. in one or two weeks I'll probably get all of them back

[misty wing]

oof

[strange thicket]

classic
fell for WG bait

[whole bough]

E50 owners! Why is grinding with this tank that hard? It is killing me. Stock has nothing. No Pen, dmg, speed, protection. It likes running naked in front of big guns.

[misty wing]

free xp the modules

[misty wing]

@blissful osprey I have something for you

[agile wyvern]

Does the 122 tm be getting a legendary camo soon in the future ?

[violet timber]

Nobody knows

[scarlet gulch]

Does anybody have the annihilator

[violet timber]

I do

[scarlet gulch]

Can u friend me

[violet timber]

Why?

[scarlet gulch]

Idk u just have a cool tank

[violet timber]

I don’t use it that much

[scarlet gulch]

Why it’s really good

[violet timber]

It’s disgustingly good, I don’t like stat padding, and I mainly play tier 10

[scarlet gulch]

Oh ok

[past crane]

Yeah the Anni is so OP it feels like cheating

[balmy compass]

Until tier 8 heavies

[blissful osprey]

Cool, but I have a question. It doesn't look like you bought the Tireless camo for the T57. Pretty suspicious, if you ask me.

[random wedge]

Hi I’m a retuning player, how does one go about getting the UE-57? I can’t find it on the tank tree

[violet timber]

It was removed during 5.5. It is no longer available unless you get it in an event

[merry viper]

Just a few days ago there was an event taking place where you could get the ue-57 on certificates.

Not sure if you can still ask support for the tank, i remember that was a thing.

[tepid geyser]

you can request to get it back for like 25 gold I think, just send in a ticket to wg and they will get it to you, you have to go onto their website, but it isn't too tricky to find

[random wedge]

Okay thank you!

[tepid geyser]

yup np, just remember that you have to log in so that they know it's you requesting the tank back

[merry viper]

are you in na? i can send you the link to the recover page but you have to get logged in first obviously.

[random wedge]

Yes I am in the NA that would be very helpful thank you!

[balmy compass]

I was wondering, which tank has the most raw armor?

[violet timber]

As in the tank with the thickest plate in the game?

[sweet whale]

Im just so mad and i wanna just let it all out. Like cmon why does the tier 7 light tanks have such rigged matchmaking. I just keep getting tier 8 matches and even that 1% of games are toptier there is a smasher on the enemy team (literarly happened every tier 7 game) and i just wanna have fun with my m41d but its kinda impossible. Yes im complaning 🗿

[balmy compass]

Like which tank has the most armor statwise, example Maus has 240mm turret

[sweet whale]

Is7 and is3 have insanely thick turret (effective thickness). Look up on armor inspector for these two

[violet timber]

Then it’s the Chieftain mk.6 with a claimed 350mm at the front of the turret

[sweet whale]

Yes but becomes ineffecive when someone with good rng sees your cupola

[violet timber]

It becomes ineffective when it’s only on the turret ring and gunners sight lol

The brown parts are the only parts with 350mm

[wispy crypt]

What equipment combination for Tiger II is recommended?

[strange ingot]

It's so chaotic it actually triggers me

[acoustic galleon]

Calibrated, super charge, refined gun.

Improved modules, enhanced armor and improved tracks.

Camo net, improved control and high end consumables.

(This is a joke)

[balmy compass]

Dang lol

[fast compass]

Best sniper tiger set up

[echo salmon]

Uhm is the maus tier X german heavy tank worth it?

[violet timber]

Yes

[echo salmon]

Ah ok i just got the VI vk 30.01 p now i need to grind more

[keen garnet]

Maus is lovely

[violet timber]

Still one of my favorite tier 10s, and still one of the best imo

[strange ingot]

Questionable

[balmy compass]

would putting enhanced armor for E 50m help against prammo getting shot in the upper plate?

[misty wing]

I do have it

[strange thicket]

how are you getting penned with prammo in the upper plate....

[balmy compass]

I have no idea

[strange thicket]

it is literally 320mm head on
with a little dent up or a little angle it goes 340mm++?
literally need jageroo heat to think about going through it

if they are looking down on you then it is simply bad positioning

[balmy compass]

its just 156mm thats angled

the vickers light can pen with prammo on flat ground

[strange thicket]

it literally can't

308-320 on flat ground?

~420-~460 using full dep

ah yes i love penning E 50Ms on flat ground with 290/319 heat pen

[balmy compass]

what about for any heavies tier X

[strange thicket]

just hulldown lol, or angle up the tank a bit.
wiggling also helps
it is not like any medium can take on heavy rounds frontally

most maps have slight dents or uphills that are always present to use and you have the gun depression and mobility and flexibility to utilize them.

[balmy compass]

alright but still would enhanced armor help?

[strange thicket]

i am not sure honestly, you will have to ask someone who has wotinspector fully unlocked.
it is vague how it works and where it applies itself to
you can ask chickenman or positive, dunno if they would mind.

[balmy compass]

the 4% buff applies all over the tank

[strange thicket]

oh? i remember some discussions about it being unclear with how it works and where it is applied

[strange thicket]

ye that is what it has been saying in game all the time, but i remember seeing discussions about it being unclear/vague. my bad maybe i am remembering wrong

[balmy compass]

🤷‍♂️

[strange ingot]

Who shoots at the upper plate anyway

[strange thicket]

🤷‍♂️

[thick trout]

The normal discussion with it is that WG said originally that it didn't affect overmatching, but on things like the prog 65 it's clear it does

[strange thicket]

fair enough.

[solid gate]

Tiger 131 buff and HD model when?

[misty wing]

Enhanced armor is good on the E50m for making the turret more troll to mediums

[upper sun]

pls help on how tf do i kill a kv-2 while its sniping me when i'm going for an m6

[lyric copper]

be more aware?

[torn mountain]

Good question

[nimble topaz]

remember to look at the map very often and be aware.... do side scrape... kv2 has slow reload with fair armor... ;-;

[misty wing]

no armor*

[nimble topaz]

seems to have some for me ;-;

[misty wing]

you're playing a stock tier 5 then or something

[upper sun]

im playing stock tiger 1 now, i just got it fixed the kv-2 problemo

[willow seal]

That's easy. Caernarvon AX with 401mm

[violet timber]

I know that

But that wasn't the actual question

[willow seal]

Whoops, replied to the wrong guy lmao.
The question was "raw" armor, I'm guessing that's the thickest plate with no angle? Then it's the Caernarvon AX

[misty wing]

cax has 401mm?

[willow seal]

Ye lmao

[violet timber]

As in statistically, such as the Maus having 240 on the front. The 401mm plate isn't shown statistically, therefore the Chieftain wins with 350mm

[misty wing]

blitz moment

idk why they always make mostly irrelevant plates have such thick armor, same thing with the concept 1b hull bottom

[willow seal]

Hey, I wouldn't say irrelevant. The amount of times some oblivious tomato got saved by those plates is surprisingly high

The R(igged)NG has to guide the shell somewhere when the enemy is 100% in the aim circle. And what's better than a random 400+ plate :v

[misty wing]

they're supposed to be irrelevant, but it's the unnecessary and unrealistic thickness that gives them some relevance occasionally

[solid gate]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-gif-23026223

[thorny smelt]

Who would aim at that part anyway?

[violet timber]

My guess is (And this is only a guess as the actual tank was never built) that that plate is made to represent a counter-balance (Which also doesn't make sense considering the small gun but it's my best guess)

[solid gate]

some very high intelectuals

[plucky summit]

405mm Titan H-Nd gun:

[solid gate]

anyways it will bounce off to the engine deck LOL

[violet timber]

This is based on the fact that the T34 has it's counterbalance modeled

[willow seal]

Counter balance lmao. Its a WG failure thats all.
T34 has one but then again T30 with a bigger gun doesn't.

[solid gate]

just simply stop relying on armor all the time ez

[misty wing]

that's not WG's fault, stop flaming them for everything lmao.
Those 2 tanks have their historical characteristics, ask the US army if you think it doesn't make sense

[solid gate]

^
Your skill issue is not to be blamed upon others except you alone

[thorny smelt]

^

[violet timber]

The reason is because the T34's gun was heavier than the T30's

[misty wing]

yeah, the barrel is noticeably longer

[willow seal]

Not really, most of it is not over 70⁰ and if you have HEAT for whatever reason it'll just eat it up.
And who's relying on armour lmao? We're just talking about thickest plates

[violet timber]

Barrel is longer + the "walls" of the barrel were thicker, seeing as if you look at them side by side it almost looks like they have the same gun

[blissful osprey]

Odd, how the T30's 155mm T7 has so much pen when among the T29/30 series tanks it should've had stupidly horrible penetration.

[willow seal]

If I remember correctly the 155mm is heavier than 120mm in game.

[misty wing]

I decided to look up what "T31" was, and found this abomination

[blissful osprey]

Two rocket launchers. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

[misty wing]

There's a guy in YouTube comments trying to argue that 263 has less than 400 alpha because he keeps low rolling 💀

[blissful osprey]

Let him be.

[hard cedar]

whose youtubers comment section is this

[misty wing]

droodles I think
I didn't even watch the video, just scrolled straight to the comments

[hard cedar]

ok then what did you expect

[blissful osprey]

What were the replies like

[misty wing]

I think the OP was "will 268 v4 be a frontline beast like 263?" and the guy started ranting about how "263 can't frontline because it has less than 400 alpha"

[blissful osprey]

What exactly does alpha have to do with frontlining? I mean, it has good DPM

[misty wing]

yeah idk what he's on

[blissful osprey]

Copium overload, probably. You usually see this thing with gacha gamers like Azur Lane.

[hard cedar]

🤨

[blissful osprey]

But it's true...

[past fractal]

He’s spamming HE in 263 lol

[misty wing]

more like APCR

[past fractal]

If I remember correctly 263’s apcr is 390, so a highroll would boost it to 400+

Definitely HE spamming

[hollow notch]

Does a 1 damage killshot

This gun has 1 alpha
Such trash useless gun

[misty wing]

if he says he's rolling for under 400 every time, APCR at 390 would definitely make sense

[past fractal]

183 trash gun with ur logic

[blissful osprey]

They got a point.

[misty wing]

nvm he sas he's "not rich or p2w so doesn't shoot gold"

[past fractal]

So, HE spamming or super low roll AP now

I remember E 100 AP hitting for 498 damage 💀

[nimble topaz]

LOL

[solid gate]

183 bouncing shots sound is nice

[solid gate]

I Got a t25

[blissful osprey]

You know the Skoda does this, but with an autoloader, right? I mean, if you really wanted a premium T25 just take the Czech one and enrich it lol

[solid gate]

☹️

3 mins waiting before tank even joins a battle

[blissful osprey]

Tier V mm for you. That's why I suggested the Skoda. It's a VI, meaning that you have a better chance of getting into battle. It's not like meeting the VIIs makes the Skoda T25 bad; it has that autoloader after all, which, while not having the best DPM, can potentially deal 480 dmg in the span of 3 seconds, which is pretty good, if you ask me.

[thorny smelt]

Just get the Skoda T-25 instead. Use the stock gun and not the autoloading gun and it will have the same effect.

[blissful osprey]

I just said that though...
I'd rather take the autoloader for that burst tho.

[solid gate]

Ok

Ill get skoda

[nimble topaz]

isn't the czech line p a i n f u l?

[blissful osprey]

I found the Konstrukta fun. And the VTU is actually different from the rest of the VIII MT population, so there's that.

[past fractal]

T-34-100 is fun mainly because of that gun

250 mm HEAT pen is plenty to cut through a good amount of tier 8 heavy lower plates, at times even their upper plates

Dunno bout VTU. But 310 alpha is still big

[nimble topaz]

mkay.... doesnt the line doesnt seem bad...

which would you rather pick thou? Italian line or Czech?

[blissful osprey]

The Czech because the crew voices are hawt af, and the tanks seem fun, unlike the Progs which are just your standard single-shot meds but with bursting capability if you needed it. Boring and uninspiring. I'd rather take the Czech tanks.

[kindred wren]

(Which is an interesting way of saying that the Italians are easier to play and the Czechs take some getting used to)

[blissful osprey]

Still boring.

[long hill]

I like the guns of the czechs but that's about it. Get some nice solid slaps in with those slav boys. Im alright with it having no armour, but it's so geometric though that it gets the off bounce here and there ( especially my vi skoda )

Tier VIII italian tank is just a panther in Venice

I currently am, heard the 121 is a solid tank.

But im just going to free xp the modules, stock viii chinese med is the worst experience ive ever had in game

Dispersion just as bad ?

Noted

I should do the jap line along with it, although the cupola of the IX scares me a bit

Still not a guaranteed pen.

Ooh, i cant wait for that. Now i just need a month or so. Lol

[thorny smelt]

Tiger II is shaking

[misty wing]

T-64 isn't in the game

[wise pike]

Just got 2 tier 8 premium tanks in a 3x German Containet :))

[plucky summit]

I hope one was the Lowe

[thorny smelt]

@wise pike What did you get from those containers?

[trail orchid]

So on the tech tree I have the m103 ,is there any point going up to tier 10 on this line as it doesn't look that much better than the 103 ,the E5 I am talking about btw

[plucky summit]

E5 is arguably the worst tier 10 heavy atm, so I guess there are no reasons to proceed

[trail orchid]

Yeah was my thoughts as well be a waste of credits maybe just the tier X yo instead

[past fractal]

Its an alright tank but yeah there are way better choices

The nerfs it got really killed it

[misty wing]

mediums and lights are meta?

[past fractal]

Not sure about meta but they really are strong

(FV4202 and E 50 M I’m looking at you two)

Almost everytime I see a pro using a tank they’re either using 60TP or IS-7 as heavy, but most of them I see using a medium and light

[livid moss]

What are the weak points of MAUS

That thing has strong armour everywhere upon it

[keen mantle]

I mean it's meta in random battles ig since you can't really carry easily if you can't get around the map

[queen hamlet]

Cheeks, lower plate which is front and also sides and back of course

[past fractal]

Lower plate is like 200 mm. Loved flaming about asking for a nerf about it in the past

The most known would definitely be the cheeks

[livid moss]

()|<
*Ok

[queen hamlet]

Yeah right, can feel it's thickness especially in meds and lights

[livid moss]

I'll use Vickers light in future

Cuz after some weeks I'll research FV301

[queen hamlet]

Id like to go vickers light too but t100lt first

[livid moss]

Yea

I started tier 1 as a British.

Thinking that WW2s most powerful army was British so I thought to start with British and when I reach tier4 I realised best nation was ñ@zï

[misty wing]

Most powerful army was absolutely not the british

In terms of land forces it's debatable between the US, USSR, and Germany, but navy was obviously the US

[livid moss]

2nd rank by land area so I thought

[misty wing]

Britain is probably the smallest country geographically to participate in WWII lol

[livid moss]

In 1920

[misty wing]

First of all, WWII started in 1939
Second of all, unless you're counting the whole empire, no.

[livid moss]

Ok

[misty wing]

Even if it is the whole empire, USSR is probably bigger

[livid moss]

Ik

Ussr is still bigger

Russia*

[tepid geyser]

Def not, you have to consider that Britain at that point had a ton of colonies still

Plus there are a lot of smaller countries who participated in the war

[misty wing]

Do colonies contribute manpower to help innovate or make weapons, or send their troops to help fight?
I think for the latter they did a little bit

[misty wing]

yeah I'm just talking about major countries here

but colonies are different from being an actual part of the country. If you take Britain itself, it is probably the smallest out of the main participants

[tepid geyser]

But they still had control of Canada, Australia and NZ iirc so technically they were British land too

[misty wing]

they had control over it, but people there were not british citizens, so I don't really wanna count them as part of Britain geographically

Regardless, the idea that Britain had the strongest army in WWII is pretty laughable

[blissful hamlet]

Vick is good

[blissful hamlet]

Wrong, the most powerful army of that era was french, but, defeated in, maybe 2 months?
But talking about navy, defo UK had the most powerful navy since Napoleonic wars

[misty wing]

lmao no, the US navy was significantly more powerful than the UK by the later stages of the war

and idk where you're getting that info about the French from (I hope you're memeing)

[strange thicket]

not the 215b?

[misty wing]

I'm ngl I would still take the E5 over the E6, and maybe the obj 260

[past fractal]

215b has a tad more dpm, has more turret traverse, and accuracy

I wont recommend either though. But 215b gun and turret traverse is still better than E5s

[misty wing]

and E5 has better heat, more armor, and better turret placement

[violet timber]

The French may have had the strongest tanks, but they were slow, and they had few of them, and they didn’t have very good radios

[past fractal]

With T110E5

2k blocked damage is Monday lal

[blissful hamlet]

cough cough soviets with no radio

[misty wing]

deleted message?

[violet timber]

Later tanks did have radios.

[strange thicket]

bru, i think it got autodeleted because i wrote a lot of ">" 😂

[misty wing]

yeah I really did not like the E6's gun handling on the move, and you need to keep moving or else people will butter through your cupola
E5 you can sit relatively comfortable hull down to aim your shots

[strange thicket]

E6 is basically the E5 with speedboost always on though?
plus gun on E6 is alright in terms of accuracy you can just wiggle till your enemy misses then shoot back

[misty wing]

It has worse accuracy and aimtime than the E5 while being faster and less armored, so the gun handling just felt really bad to me

[strange thicket]

ah i see

[misty wing]

it's just a personal preference type of complaint though, I wouldn't say it's bad necessarily

[strange thicket]

personally wanted to get it during the auction but i already had the mark6 lol

[misty wing]

I prefer the super conqueror to all those 120-122mm heavies lol, even the concept

[strange thicket]

with that gun and mobility? naw

[misty wing]

The accuracy might be bad, but the dispersion on the move is far superior

and the turret turns pretty quick for a heavy, unlike a certain american heavy

[strange thicket]

would take 260,E6 over them both because i am more of a heavium guy than a traditional hulldown heavy guy

[strange thicket]

😂

[misty wing]

S. Conq just kinda resonates with me for some reason, it's one of my highest damage non-autoloaders

[misty wing]

I'd love to have the obj 277 in blitz ngl

[strange thicket]

prolly because of the hulldown capabilities
i know too little about the 277
i play PC but only stopped on the T44, wanna continue until the 430U

[misty wing]

277 is basically just a 5A with less gun depression but more of...something that I can't remember 😂

It's probably mobility

[strange thicket]

turret armor? hull armor?

[misty wing]

Roughly the same turret armor (smaller cupolas though), hull armor is pretty bad

Okay yeah it has better mobility and better standard pen, slightly better gun handling, at the cost of some dpm and gun depression

[strange thicket]

i see

[lyric copper]

pretty sure they had MORE tanks, just that their communication and poor strategy and organisation lead to them being as useful as a burnt baguette

[past crane]

Yeah the French had a far superior tank force but poor communications and tactics prevented them from being used effectively

[jolly hedge]

Is VK 100.01 (P) GOOD?

[copper swan]

australia:
singapore:

marshall islands:

[violet timber]

Britain is definitely smaller than Australia lol

[worthy leaf]

Wait
I think vatican join

Oh nvm
It didnt but it do big humanity aid

[acoustic galleon]

Yes.

[cobalt viper]

Should i get improved engine or reactive armor consumable for the t32

[balmy compass]

I use improved engine boost and adrenaline with the all-purpose repair kit

[blissful osprey]

Probably. IF they were really serious, I suppose they took in regard the Maginot Line (which would've worked better had Belgium not declare neutrality and kick the Brits and French out) as a force multiplier of sorts.

Arguably, by 1941-ish, the US was pretty close in terms of its navy. The US still had 6-7 fleet carriers then in service, as well as 17 battleships (albeit, mostly the old Standard Battleships) scattered across the Atlantic and the Pacific (well, since Washington was undergoing shakedown cruises and wouldn't enter service by early 1942, she probably doesn't count). Source: https://www.navsource.org/Naval/usf.htm

[midnight hemlock]

yo is this t-70-57 any good? i just got it in my store pop-up

[little rock]

its tier 3. even if its good, it will take 10 minutes to queue into a game with it

[solid gate]

guys, is worth it the 3 chinese tanks offer?

[blissful osprey]

They're okay if you know how to play them. They're not too special otherwise and there are certainly better options.

[maiden meteor]

Nope , don't spend money on tanks that are powercreep

[abstract stream]

Is the Panzer 58 worth the buy?

[violet timber]

If you already have the Indien, no

[wintry orchid]

And even if you don’t have it don’t get it. It’s just meh

[misty wing]

which tank has the most un-detailed model

[midnight hemlock]

thats a good question lol

[odd lark]

if I want to retrieve a tank, but dont know how much I sold it for, is there a way to find out? I want to retrieve a lot of my sold premium tanks but I dont know how much it costs to retrieve one

[midnight hemlock]

i would say some of the early american tech tree tanks but i wanna hear other peoples opinions

[misty wing]

I wanna say possibly the maus or the caernarvon

the maus is literally just a bunch of grey polygons put together, and caern honestly just looks really bad textures-wise for some reason

[blissful osprey]

Chi-Ri for me. It just looks unimpressive to me.

[misty wing]

It's the price that you sold it for +10% iirc, so depending on the tier of the vehicle you can make a rough estimate (for tier 8 premiums I think it's roughly 2 million?)

chi-ri's model looks just as detailed as the rest of the chi- series and the ho-ri's, there's nothing particularly wrong with it

[blissful osprey]

I just realize the E50M's shovel isn't even a 3D project. It's as they just painted it to the side and told the crew to make do with it lmao

[misty wing]

lmao, yeah things like that are the things I wanted people to bring up with regards to "un-detailed"

[blissful osprey]

And the E50 seems to be a darker shade of gray than the 50M. Which I find weird.

[misty wing]

most nations have some variance in their colors

[willow seal]

Pretty much any of the earliest tanks that weren't touched up like VK45A and FV4202.
While some tanks like IS3 actually got a model update

[wintry orchid]

It’s somewhere on the web page kinda near where you can get them back iirc

[balmy compass]

The detailing on the sides of the Tiger II and E 75 aren’t 3D either

Wait nvm Tiger II has PBR so its 3D

[solid gate]

Should I get the t-25

[misty wing]

no

[solid gate]

Ok ty

[graceful iris]

thoughts on leopard pta? should i just skip it, normally grind it or grind it in fun modes.. and how much will i suffer if i grind it?

[blissful osprey]

Grind the thing because it's the closest to Leo 1 gameplay experience you can get. You're better off getting the tank to train on it, but I advise Fxping at least the 105mm; the 88mm is absolutely worthless at this tier.

[hard cedar]

if you have enough fxp skip it but I would grind it in a gamemode, it's absolute garbage and nothing like the t10 leo, the t10 leo is miles better

[median arch]

Is it just me or does the SU-100M1 has more health than the SU-101

[kind flicker]

ngl the su101 line should go to the obg268v4

[graceful iris]

alright. though does it play similar to 251? really enjoy that tank lol

[hard cedar]

no not really

[graceful iris]

yea t10 has a lot of advantages over t9. not sure if ill reach it till uprising ends so ill grind it other time lol

[hard cedar]

i mean you can just start grinding it when uprising's here and finish it later

[graceful iris]

and one more question. should i fxp turret and/or engine too?

[graceful iris]

ye ill do that

[hard cedar]

i mean if you have the fxp then sure

[graceful iris]

i mean

are they necessary? like is it at least decent without those modules?

[hard cedar]

ye, iirc turret improves reload speed + pta is slow without top engine

[graceful iris]

alright thanks for help

[blissful osprey]

If you can. It also does not play like the 251. The PTA does not retain the same camo mechanics the RU has, which makes not getting detected hard at times where LTs just have to keep moving.

[graceful iris]

thanks for help. ill grind half and skip half. like get 100k or so xp and fxp rest of it.. depending on how much fxp i get and how much i like tank

[blissful osprey]

The Leo plays the same as the PTA, it just looks cooler, as more gun dep, and sees a lot more 183s. I advise you get acclimatized to the PTA as soon as possible so you know what you're doing.

[graceful iris]

also more dpm, more mobility, better accuracy

[balmy compass]

PTA is just a worse Leo 1, when I grinded the PTA it wasn’t hard

[hard cedar]

leo pta is one of the worst t9 meds.

[misty wing]

it probably is the worst tbh

[balmy compass]

I had a worse time in WZ-120

[violet timber]

https://tenor.com/view/well-perhaps-youre-right-george-kingsley-black-friday-agree-good-point-gif-18790205

[misty wing]

wz-120 is good

[balmy compass]

Then again I didn’t max it out so I cant say much

[misty wing]

...

I honestly had no idea that so many people moved on from tanks without maxing them out
it seems so stupid to me

[balmy compass]

It was a thing for me before I realized I can easily gain free xp and just get the top modules

[merry viper]

i stopped at the chinese heavy (tier8) & medium too (tier9), i do love the t-34-2 tho

[balmy compass]

It also depends on if I really liked/didn’t like the tank, if I didn’t like the tank I would just grind the next tank out quickly

[merry viper]

same

when the t-34/100 came out i was like "dude, this is a tank i would grind for" and there you go

[misty wing]

If you're implying that you played the WZ-120 a long time ago, it has received a few buffs

[balmy compass]

Well it wasn’t terribly long ago but I was broke in free xp at the time and I really didn’t want to grind 120k xp just to get the top gun when I would rather have the tier X tank

[solid gate]

Bruh kv2 need a 15 sec reload

[civic iron]

No.

[shy hound]

Absolutely. I hated pta until it was max

[violet timber]

Mmmm, nope.

[civic iron]

thats not a nope, at this point its just a big fat Tungsten "No."

[past fractal]

Use SU-152 then

[civic iron]

exactly, its like a 7 seconds reload cut

[past fractal]

ISU-152 is also a good choice for a fast reloading “derp”

Its not even full crew yet and it’s already like 13-14 seconds of reload

[plucky summit]

It'll go down to 12.12s, but if you wanna really be trigger happy for DPM, you could mount the 122mm D-25 mod. 1944, and get 400 damage every 6.41s (albeit with bad accuracy and underwhelming penetration)

[hollow notch]

Ew no

[plucky summit]

🌀

[misty wing]

🌀

[thorny smelt]

🌀

[past fractal]

🌀9️⃣

[nimble topaz]

?

[misty wing]

🇨 9️⃣

[plucky summit]

I literally just typed a random emoji, stop interpreting it

[past fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/a-diyen-köpekbalığı-a-diyen-kopekbalıgı-a-the-bloop-a-meme-gif-23140469

[misty wing]

🌪️

[balmy compass]

🤯

[thorny smelt]

🌪️

[twilit elk]

t-22 médium, t95e6, super conquereor.
Who is better? I want to get back one of the but idk

[misty wing]

depends on what tech tree tanks you have tbh

and what premiums you already have

[calm drum]

Bimbo#6376 has been warned.

[severe bear]

“bimbo has been warned” 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[plucky summit]

I think you should probably go for Super Conqueror

[misty wing]

Yeah super conq fits the hulldowm heavy meta

[violet timber]

I love ammo racking T57s in my Skonk 😋 They love showing their sides for no reason

[past fractal]

Just be careful not to overexpose ur Super Conq turret

Its really tasty to HE

[misty wing]

You can't really "overexpose" your turret to HE

If people are trying to HE splash you, you're either exposed, or you aren't

[past fractal]

By I mean overexposing

I mean exposing it over cover for too long

Once you shoot, get back to cover. Dont try to rely on the turret to mitigate HE

Thats my opinion

[plucky summit]

You should do that with every tank but okay 😂

[past fractal]

IS-7 and IS-4’s turret are pretty hard to damage with HE in my experience. They should still get back to cover but they can take a bit more punishment

[blissful osprey]

Uh, I suppose we do...

Not that it really matters, because with only 12 kph reverse we sorta get hit anyways by some God-forsaken TD that the meds decided not to spot.

[misty wing]

at least it's not an HE shell like it would be for an AMX 50b

[blissful osprey]

Perhaps, but those guys always hide in some corner, so they can take the HE in my opinion.

[carmine ocean]

Guys is the Type 59 any good?

[acoustic galleon]

Its just a worse T-34-2

[blissful osprey]

You know what I'll say to this?

It's good if you know what you're doing. So the question is: Do you know what you're doing?

If you've played the Russian MTs and do well in them, then you will feel somethimg similar in the Type 59.

If you have not, please refrain from using the tank until you gain more experience.

[misty wing]

type 59 is pretty meh, I wouldn't compare it to the 34-2 though

[acoustic galleon]

I just consider it a Chinese medium, with a Russian gun.

[blissful osprey]

If you've played the Russian MTs you'd probably get a similar feel from the 59. As to whether or not you want to buy it is up to you and your experience with the Soviets.

[acoustic galleon]

IMO the 59 Patton will be a better choice for most players.
(Yes, I'm aware of the tumor)

[misty wing]

where are T95E1, E3, E4, and E5

[blissful osprey]

Probably didn't exist. Or idk, I'm pulling at straws here.

[strange ingot]

No

There is simply better meds on tier

At this point I'd rather buy panzer 58

[echo nova]

What? Its one of my favourite meds
Pz 58 is worse
And yes there are other good t8 meds, but dont underestimate type 59
I also think type 59 is for skilled players

[strange thicket]

Easy to outplay
Pz 58 >>>> type 59

[coral heart]

should I sell T21 and M4A2E4 for 252U (I dislike and don't care for both, but I do like 252U armor profile)

[misty wing]

sure, low tier is awful

what's the most boring tier 10 to play

[past fractal]

60TP definitely was boring but at first

Its a great tank, but there are some times where you are forced to hulldown and stay there. Your hull is not great so you cant really tank like an E 100 would. And there are occasions where your 7 degs of gun depression can screw you in a hulldown spot

Good tank though

[coral heart]

yeah, charging 60TP is a dead 60TP

everyone kinda trained their sight into ur hull hoping for that ammorack to happen

[past fractal]

Next up

T110E5

Nerfed dpm and turret traverse kinda limited its ability to outdpm heavies. Its turret, while solid, has pretty weak cheeks. You are almost always forced to hulldown in it in a bad situation. 8 degs of gun depression screwed me up in some occasions but not a big problem. Ur also stuck with 400 alpha lol

The frontal hull can be useable in baiting, but thats it imo. Side hull is hilarious when it bounces shells, otherwise you’d get pwned by smart enemies

Speed is actually alright I wont complain. Accelerates very fast, top speed is at 40 though but not a big problem either

[misty wing]

It's 37

[viscid summit]

What's better 252u or t54e2 for rated or should I wait for potato tank

[acoustic galleon]

The Shark is better.

[strange ingot]

If the tank is trash it doesn't mean that it's "for skilled players" type really got nothing: no dpm, no pen, bad gun comfort and decent mobility that you can't even use because the tank has nothing, it's basically just a worse ltwt

[graceful iris]

Guy got muted for saying that 💀

[viscid summit]

Lmao

[nimble topaz]

sadge

is t54 ltwt good for ramming in uprising? 😂

[umbral hamlet]

finally someone is taking measures against people spamming idiotic statements

[nimble topaz]

😂

[misty wing]

No
Why would a tank called "lightweight" be good at ramming

[nimble topaz]

cause its actually a medium tank but made lighter or something 😂

[umbral hamlet]

well what do you expected from a lightened version of an already below-avarage weighted medium?

[oak pollen]

I recommend you to play leopard in uprising and try to get double shot and speed boost. It will become kinda OP
Or just use speed boost in amx elc bis. Not OP, but fun for person who like speed.

[pseudo anchor]

can i ask you something.? what do you recommend guys.? the bundle of t54e2 and obj. 252u or the chieftain mk.6.? thanks.

[strange thicket]

bundle is better for ratings n stats n also credit grinding mk6 is fun but eh

[strange ingot]

Chief

[nimble topaz]

Bundle... Obj 252u is OP... U cant pen its armor that easily....

[balmy compass]

Very noob friendly

[violet timber]

252U has a good armor profile against those that don’t know where to aim. It’s like an IS-7 as tier 8

[past fractal]

For starters, 252u’s side armor is really troll. Its a requirement to aim well at it otherwise it’d either get black holed to its spaced armor, or the angled plate on its lower parts

[blissful osprey]

Both serve different roles. The 252 does well as a close range facehugging brawler, while the T54E2 tries to abuse hill and other hulldown positions. You just can't really compare the two that much.

[meager breach]

Which one better Pz IV. G or Leopard?

[blissful osprey]

Stupid question, both are very different.

[meager breach]

I am newbie😅

[blissful osprey]

So? Both are different and you can't just compare the two like they're equals.

[thick trout]

The issue with the 252 isn't aiming harder at the sides, it's that basically wherever you aim there will always be a ~30% chance of bouncing because of the layout unless you are close enough to be able to hit the lower third without shooting at the very middle or bottom plates

[meager breach]

Can you suggest me which one suit for new player like me?

[past fractal]

Chill mate, he doesnt know everything yet

Pz IV G is probably ur better choice. More armor and a more consistent gun. Leopard is hard to play @meager breach

I’m not saying Leopard is bad though. But with a very small caliber gun with low penetration, you aren’t gonna win any firefights if you use it like other regular tanks

[blissful osprey]

The IV. G. The Leopard leads to the Leo 1, which isn't very friendly towards new players. Meanwhile the G leads to some good tanks like the E50M and the E100 which are better suited for newer players to grind.

@past fractal That's nice, but I doubt it should be hard to realize the stark differences between the two. They're just too different for someone to think you can compare them.

[past fractal]

I just finished a underwhelming recording so my brain is refreshed

[kindred wren]

Watch me compare apples to oranges

Oranges won. You‘re welcome

[past fractal]

I like oranges better than apples irl ngl

Apples taste too bland imo

[blissful osprey]

Oranges are clearly superior.

[strange thicket]

how?

[blissful osprey]

@strange thicket Uh, you know, this?

[strange thicket]

don't face hug in 252u bad idea
the roof and cupolas are ez pen especially if the tank you are hugging is taller
shark >> 252u

[strange thicket]

"252U has a good armor profile against those that don’t know where to aim"
that is totally unlike IS7's profile.
it is true for the 252u because you can aim through the armor whether it is looking at your or its sides
you are hopeless against an is7 looking at you frontally and hiding its lower plate

[kindred wren]

You are more hopeless against a 252U hiding its lower plate than an IS-7

[strange thicket]

disagree
just thought the ez cupolas lmao
good luck penetrating an IS7 though

[blissful osprey]

The cupolas are tiny, wdym

[kindred wren]

For the IS-7 you don‘t need much to penetrate the upper hull, with the Object 252U you simply won‘t pen the upper hull

The cupolas are not that much of an issue. Maybe one or two shots will go through there, but a bit of wiggling will make most shots on them hopeless

[strange thicket]

literally a slight dent and hiding the lowerplate and you cannot pen the upper hull though?
the lower plate is easier to hide unlike 252u's huge lowerplate
and there is no cupolas to go through on the IS7
there is a teeny tiny spot towards the turret ring you can go through that most people don't know of. which you can avoid easily by wiggling anyway lol

[kindred wren]

We‘re literally comparing a tomato to a tomato now. Both tanks will do well when hiding the lower plate

[strange thicket]

except you can pen the 252u's cupola with a little bit of aiming 🤷‍♂️
you can still entirely go through the armor profile either way
which is my point
also you won't pen the is7's upper hull head on anyway lmao

oops

[kindred wren]

Depends on your pen, most tds do it without any trouble

Also, you just need a dent for the 252U either to basically deny cupola shots so it‘s not much different

[keen garnet]

Depends on the tank but you can go through the IS-7 hull if it's a bit angled

Can't do that with the 252U unless you have insane penetration

[kindred wren]

Aside from that the 252U is tier eight which means less accurate guns and less pen, making it even better tier for tier

[blissful osprey]

The cupolas on the 252 are still stupidly hard to hit.

[kindred wren]

Also the IS-7 has a cupola weakspot but you simply won‘t hit it

[strange thicket]

ehh fair enough.
you can pen IS7's frontally through a weak spot close to the ring and mantlet
but armor highlight does a funny and it is easy to mess up

[kindred wren]

Though I agree with you that it‘s not like an IS-7 at tier eight. The armour profile is too different in my opinion

[strange thicket]

i also think the mobility difference sets them apart too

[past fractal]

I do think the 252 and IS-7’s side armors resemble a bit of each other

Just my take

[past fractal]

Guys

Whats the lowest damage roll u ever got in a 600+ alpha tank?

[flint eagle]

It says when you look at the ammo stats.

[past fractal]

I meant

What is the lowest damage roll you personally got??

[balmy compass]

I think I hit a 427 or around there in E 100 once

Or I may be mistaken

[radiant ember]

Jg E 100 or Container Collection?

[ebon nacelle]

Idk 252 is good, that is7 arguement is irrelevant

[flint eagle]

I was implying- I’ve played enough that I’ve got the lowest possible for many tanks.
Tend to max roll more often with the 3 hit thing. But not immune to low rolls.

[magic pasture]

when was the last time cent 5 or mario 46 were sold?

[wintry wasp]

anything here to buy for tourney

[radiant beacon]

Which one should I grind, AMX 50B or T57 Heavy?

[old gull]

Both

[radiant beacon]

ok 😄

[old gull]

But I say 50b first

50 b best in my opinion

[keen garnet]

60TP, IS-7

[radiant beacon]

@old gull I started going for the 50b first

[fossil forge]

so how many battles does someone need to play to test a new tank ? -notice that with this new account, this player plays in the under 5000 battles match making- so is this testing a new tank or using an OP test vehicle to club beginners ? btw the type 71 , a vehicle that has not been released yet is his most played tank, by far. @gloomy hearth: somehow I think handing out test tank to seal clubbers might not be the best idea , maybe at least ensure that testers have at least over 5k battles - better would be something over 30k battles- so they at lest play the OP test tanks in the regular match making

[solid gate]

Wot blitz in the future will have sabaton's primo victoria? The strv 81

[violet timber]

60TP and IS-7, then 50B because it’s used occasionally

[solid gate]

If E5 hadn't been nerfed he would be the best

[violet timber]

Debatable, especially with the addiction of the 60TP

[plucky summit]

Given the Type 71 is a tier 10, I wouldn't use that as the "sealclubbing" example

[wise moth]

60TP, IS-7, 50 B

[radiant ember]

Jg E 100 or Container Collection (12k gold one)?

[violet timber]

If you’re going to spend gold on the Jageroo, wait for type 71 instead

[proven harbor]

Will be sheridan missle avalible to earn any more time?

Guys

[mystic sleet]

Nobody knows

For now at least...

[graceful iris]

yes. soon actually. it was confirmed by wg

[coral venture]

Is7, 60tp and 50b

[oak ore]

Is 50 b still tournament worthy 🤔, It just is7, 60tp, yoh, 100lt spam

[wise moth]

Granted I haven’t kept up with the comp scene in a while, but I did hear they were still being used. Albeit T-100s exist now

[oak ore]

Yeh, havent seen the 50 b’s tho

[wise moth]

I thought I saw them relatively recently, although “relatively” in this case means “sometime in the last year and a half”

[oak ore]

Pfff ya, meta been changing so quick in this past year and half

W/ the yoh, 60tp and 100lt lone coming in

[violet timber]

50Bs are used in very niche strats, mainly just ones that involve full yoloing one side to take out a couple of enemies, then reloading the clips to do it again

[graceful iris]

i haven't seen 50b in tours for a while but imo they can still be used

[lost gyro]

i think that the KV4 hull armour should be buffed same for the stock mantlet

[misty wing]

no

[misty wing]

I played T57 with a friend in a 50b in 2v2s a few days ago, and we won everything pretty easily.
(But I always carried even though he's statistically the better player, because t57 >>>)

[graceful iris]

lol t57 has two main advantages. faster interclip and more armor (even though when i played it i barely bounced anything. rng i guess?). also HEAT prammo. if you run cali (you probably should) you get more pen than 50b

but 50b has better mobility and faster magazine reload. also better accuracy and a bit more gun depression

[misty wing]

T57 not being an easy HE pen is everything against good players

[thorny smelt]

Hopefully we have another lend-lease Centurions

[outer shell]

Is the shark any good?

[mystic sleet]

The best t8 premium heavy tank alongside the Action X

[graceful iris]

so.. obj 140 is just more aggressive t62 right?

[violet timber]

AX is over rated

[violet timber]

140 is a slightly faster, but less armored 62A, and it has less Gd

[graceful iris]

it has better hull armor and worse turret armor. itll probably bounce more shells on hull than on turret lol

but another question. when T100 gets nerfed, what do you think will get nerfed? i want to grind it but too scared of regretting it later after nerf

[violet timber]

I think the armor or gun will be nerfed, but it’ll still be a good tank

[graceful iris]

as long as speed remains i want it lol

[violet timber]

It will almost definitely keep its speed

[graceful iris]

epic. ill probably have it by end of next month

[violet timber]

Noice

[misty wing]

I think they should nerf the pen tbh

[hollow notch]

It has no pen to nerf

[misty wing]

look at the pen it has on PC (or lack thereof)

[balmy compass]

How much armor is behind the gun on the T 100?

[hollow notch]

Stealth is actually a thing on pc.

[orchid dagger]

The T100LT needs a dpm nerf and it's troll armour also needs a nerf. Keep the speed and weird spotting mechanic.

[misty wing]

well nerf the pen to make it unplayable, light tanks don't have a place in blitz anyway

[balmy compass]

You mean I could stealth kill some people in my loud derp gun E 100?

[orchid dagger]

@misty wing nerfing the pen will just kill it. Lol😆

[misty wing]

exactly

[balmy compass]

Dunno I dont see why this annoying light should be able to pen the front of a E 100

[misty wing]

#killalllighttanks

[balmy compass]

Not my Ru-251 💀

[mystic sleet]

No, but the Progetto is

[misty wing]

AX is very overrated

[mystic sleet]

No it's not.

[balmy compass]

I really think its overrated from what I have seen

[misty wing]

enjoy your worst in class alpha and mediocre armor

[balmy compass]

All I see is a big british tank that shoots fast, nothing special

[mystic sleet]

The armor is nice for the mobility it has, as for the alpha-I agree that it's on the low side.

[misty wing]

T26E5 >>> AX

[blissful osprey]

No. Please, no. All tanks have a place, even light tanks.

[misty wing]

not the lights in blitz that are basically faster mediums

[blissful osprey]

Well, you have a point there, but still. They can stay can’t they? I mean, they’re just light tanks, after all…

[misty wing]

I just think light tanks need to have un-competitive stats in order to facilitate a proper light tank playstyle, sort of like how the 183 needs to be bad to carry that alpha

[past fractal]

So what you’re suggesting is

Competitive players should switch to meds and heavies now?

[valid gale]

They’ve been using those

[blissful osprey]

They’re pretty un-competitive as of now (not counting the T100, of course). I don’t see anyone wanting a Vickers LT any more than they’d want something like the 62A. And the Sheridan is just… yeah, no. The Batchat gets plagued by a mediocre line and odd play style, turning away players. And even then, it’s really more a “why’d I want to get this” tank if anything.

[misty wing]

No, I think lights should be focused on spotting but have terrible firepower and reduced hitpoints

like maybe an increased proxy spotting range, or give all of them the T-100 spotting gimmick

[balmy compass]

The tracer shells is really stupid, I would rather have lights have way more spotting range then that

[misty wing]

it is stupid, that's why lights need to have awful penetration in exchange

[mystic sleet]

I think I have killed enough Sheriffs in order to know that the Sheriff isn't better than CAX

[misty wing]

I think you're just biased and wrong

[mystic sleet]

Same could be said for you

[misty wing]

nope, sheriff is just better because it has a better turret, more alpha, higher top speed
there's no argument really

and saying that you killed players in a certain tank, therefore making it worse, is just the worst argument possible

[civic iron]

Ur literally the person that said “give kv-2 a 15 second reload” istg some ppl just simply lack brain wrinkles

[misty wing]

I was not wtf?

stop the slander

[hollow notch]

I have killed a leopard 1 with a tier 5

So...

[civic iron]

You forgot the fact that the AX has superior armor and very good hull down abilities, along with more DPM.

[misty wing]

It does not have superior armor lol

I'm not sure if you've even seen a sheriff before

idk about you, but an 8% increase in DPM doesn't seem worth a 21% loss in alpha

[violet timber]

The entire Sheriff vs AX argument is stupid because the Shark beats them both. However the Sheriff is still better than the AX

[lost gyro]

we need a buff for the smasher. it cant autoammorack a maus its too underpowered buff smasher

[hollow notch]

The amount of AX simps is suprising

[violet timber]

AX is one of the weaker heavies imo

Armor is okay, alpha is garbage

[past fractal]

AX is pretty easy to kill as a heavy

Problems arise when it starts to do a medium role

[hollow notch]

Even then most other heavies do the med hunting better

[misty wing]

just play a pershing if you want dpm lmao

[blissful osprey]

Well, I have the AX, and I don’t like it, tbh. It has low alpha but good DPM and okay-ish armor. Speed is okay. But it just doesn’t feel good. That’s the problem. All of its stats point to it to be at least “good enough.” But it doesn’t feel that way. I feel more comfortable playing the T34 in a city environment, and that’s a shame.

[solid gate]

Kugelpanzer

[blissful osprey]

What about it?

Well?

[balmy compass]

Very round

[thorny smelt]

Buff to 230

[solid gate]

Add maybe? It's round lol. And cute.

[blissful osprey]

What it’ll do. Sure it’s just brimming with being adorable, but I doubt it’s capable of doing something. Isn’t it armed with like, a 7mm-ish MG?

@thorny smelt definitely not. It’s a 20-pdr (I think), it doesn’t need nor deserve the extra damage (tho the Sheriff gets more dmg compared to the Pershing on its main gun, but whatever)

[solid gate]

Well... like the T2 Light, wargaming just decided to put some cannon on it instead of the original MG.

(Ok it does have a 47mm gun but, it should also fit on the Kugelblitz... or just put a 37mm like the French did.)

[daring wren]

Does anyone know from which tank the new of japanese heavys branch will start?

[solid gate]

Hey the T7 Car is supposed to be equipped with two 12.7mm Browning MG.

So yea putting cannons into vehicles shouldn't be a problem.

[solid gate]

No

[blissful osprey]

Probably from the Chi-To based oe what we’ve seen from other Japanese vehicles. But you never know.

@solid gate but doesn’t a human operator take up most of the space? I thought it did.

[solid gate]

Yes I know, but like the T7 Car where the two MG and the commander/gunner also took all the space. Wargaming puts in a cannon.

Or at least it made the machine gun able to penetrate armour.

[blissful osprey]

Well, good for the Kugel then. I just don’t see how’d that find the motivation to add it.
They pretty much abandoned the Low Tier Meta, as you may know.

[solid gate]

It's cute, it's round, it's smol

[plucky summit]

They won’t add it as a legitimate tank

[blissful osprey]

But it isn’t big, bad, and impressive. It’s not another thing they can give 3.5k dpm and stick in Tier X.

[plucky summit]

Besides, Blitz probably won’t even take it into an event, since it already was an event outside of Blitz

[solid gate]

Sad

Anyways, can wg nerf smasher? It's quite op.

[hollow notch]

I want duckies back

[solid gate]

AMX 40?

[hollow notch]

No

[plucky summit]

That still exists anyways

[solid gate]

I wish AMX 40 wasn't a battle pass. Like make an event, like the Pz. IV S.

[violet timber]

Same

[blissful osprey]

It’s a nice concept. It really is. It’s just… knowing WeeGee, they probably won’t add it. They also probably won’t nerf Smasher since no matter what you try to get people feel about the steaming pile of poo the VII meta lineup is, people will still buy it unless it gets nerfed.

[plucky summit]

Pre-5.5 issue 😎

[solid gate]

This is why WoTB is a dumpster fire

[plucky summit]

That’s definitely not why

[blissful osprey]

Definitely not.

[solid gate]

Let's see. Op tanks unnerfed, instead it was buffed. Underperforming tanks not buffed, matchmaking still a joke. (APAC server) players don't use the minimap. They don't see the chat wether anyone is asking for help, or just setting a target.

[strange thicket]

what underperforming tanks weren't buffed?

[plucky summit]

I think the main problem is WG setting their tail on fire and running away from it. They sell off premium tanks that are overcooked, but do not nerf them as usual. Powercreep keeps screwing the balance of tiers over

[solid gate]

Ok maybe not underperforming tanks.

[blissful osprey]

The T33 was underperforming. Now it’s great. Pre-8.5 E5 was OP, but then they balanced it (perhaps a bit too far). And there’s like a few others. It’s really powercreep and a crappy noob player base that ruins things.

[solid gate]

Ok

[strange thicket]

they are quite literally buffing everything around those so yeah
they force themselves to buff tanks to stupid measures to counter the stupid premiums

[plucky summit]

Now WG is confidently releasing overcooked tech tree tanks without nerfing them

[strange thicket]

i think wg knows exactly what it is doing and just likes to mess up and spice up the meta for a specific goal in mind
although obviously they cater more towards noobies and wallet warriors they still have a place for F2Ps

[solid gate]

just nerf smasher pls.

Annihilator too

[strange thicket]

play t29 and frick both over 😎

[solid gate]

Lol

[balmy compass]

Annie is only powerful against meds/lights

[blissful osprey]

Think they nerfed the Type 71 a bit just recently. I don’t think it’s too bad, but I’ll check.

[strange thicket]

but yeah that is one of the measures WG is taking
the long route of overbuffing techtree tanks(which are plenty) to counter a few prems

[blissful osprey]

True.

[plucky summit]

They should simply nerf it enough, even releasing it a bit overcooked shifts the meta further from tier 9

[surreal osprey]

Vickers or T100LT which is better?

[balmy compass]

Probably T 100

[blissful osprey]

Anyways, I just checked, and it seems to be everything the 215B wanted to be without being too much of a mess. Among the worst on turret move dispersion, even worse turret traverse than the E5 and average base dispersion.

@surreal osprey T100, but I beg you, please, the Tier X meta has already been ruined thanks to that pest, pls have mercy on us.

[surreal osprey]

🙏 I will

[solid gate]

But not a british cent, a swedish centurion, Or could it be legendary skin for cent 1

[violet timber]

I wouldn't mind an STRV 101 (Cent Mk.10) just for the 105mm gun and more armor than the 7/1

[thorny smelt]

Primo Victoria and Stridsvagn 81

[solid gate]

Strv 81 is the primo victoria

[olive junco]

Flaws of tiger 2?

[hollow sequoia]

heat magnet

[compact drum]

It has its ups and downs, sucks stock but once it’s fully upgraded it’s one beauty of a tank. Mine matches good with a gun rammer on it but from what I learned about it on this game, I would try to use it strategically since a lot of the lower tier tanks can pen the lower plate of the tier with a premium round depending on the tank but all down it’s a monster of a tank. and your gonna be everyone’s first target normally😂

[thorny smelt]

Heck

[blissful osprey]

She’s beautiful…

[thorny smelt]

Time to ammo rack this guy

[blissful osprey]

Whaa…

[thorny smelt]

LOL

[misty wing]

you like beast over pit bull>?

[blissful osprey]

I just like the stars. “Also said “Lucky Forward” on the front which sounded pretty cool.

Honestly, if all the enemy wants to use is AP, you get stuff like this.

[misty wing]

I thought our little american duo would stomp the enemy team, but he dropped a 0 on me :(

[blissful osprey]

That ain’t me

[misty wing]

But it's your king

[blissful osprey]

Uhhhhh

No it’s not. cough

[misty wing]

also, what's a 215B3

[blissful osprey]

Oh, shoot. Uh, newest Tier VIII premium? Three barreled 123mm guns, each with a 4 shot autoloader. Only fires HESH.

[plucky summit]

Probably a painful way to say FV215b (183)

[blissful osprey]

No, no no. It's at Tier VIII. There's a difference.

[misty wing]

well @plucky summit , you know how it goes. Caernarvon hull with a 183 turret and 3 badger guns

[blissful osprey]

^^^

[misty wing]

also add a random log, machine gun, or spaced armor because that's what they do to premiums

[blissful osprey]

Probably the spaced armor.

[thorny smelt]

ST-II is shaking

[blissful osprey]

Does anyone here even have the faintest idea of the Sheri's playstyle?

[copper swan]

run, peek a boo, hide, repeat

[blissful osprey]

Which sorta doesn't work if you're in a MT-heavy environment.

[copper swan]

spot, try to shoot HEAT or HE, then run away
don't get cornered

@blissful osprey

sheridan doesn't have good damage per minute, so don't stand in front of high dpm enemy tanks like T-62A

[blissful osprey]

I personally find it hard to find good flanking spots since the HTs never really seem to be predictable. And then the MTs cover the med side so I always find myself stuck in either of the two flanks.

[copper swan]

light tanks require map awareness for the user
go watch some blitz map positioning guides on youtube, preferably the most recent ones

most light tanks have good mobility, but their lack of armour means you can hardly not get punished for making mistake such as wrong positioning@blissful osprey

[misty wing]

lights are so unenjoyable to play

[blissful osprey]

Say that to the Vickers LT lmao. I have bounced too many shots from that one.

[misty wing]

every time I play a light I wanna slap myself for playing so selfishly
and it often seems like my teammates do as well

either you run away from the fight and get flamed by your teammates, but farm damage
or have a bad game because you don't have the armor, HP, or firepower to carry
it's a terrible experience either way

[blissful osprey]

The darn thing finally responded to my touch. I'll probably get a 1.8k dmg next game.

[proven harbor]

😳 Any date leaked?

[wanton fjord]

the fv4201 is on sale is it worth it?

[thorny smelt]

No

[copper swan]

that tank is one of the few exceptions

[copper swan]

no

[wanton fjord]

h

[heavy grotto]

if I have t54e2, action x, t26e5, is 5, is it any sense to purchase ob. 252U?

[thorny smelt]

Well IS-5 is a budget Object 252U

[copper swan]

up to you

[faint walrus]

is the T25/2 a good TD for tier 7?

[livid moss]

No

[faint walrus]

Whats bad about it?

Is the Tier-34-85 a good medium for tier 6?

[pliant pike]

Monsters have appeared

[nimble topaz]

Its not called tier-34-85 🤣... Its just simply t-34-85 🤣

[faint walrus]

yh i meant that

[nimble topaz]

Armor obviously... Idk about the speed and gun... @misty wing any thoughts?

What server are you in @faint walrus ??

[faint walrus]

so would you say the t25 at is better than the t25/2 as a tech line?

[misty wing]

The T25/2? No armor, bad alpha/pen for a TD, slower than you'd expect it to be

[faint walrus]

EU server

[nimble topaz]

Oh.. I thought ur in apac

[misty wing]

T25 AT is much better than the T25/2, yes

[nimble topaz]

Yes... Its like jpanther i think

[buoyant turret]

guys, I got Chieftain MK III as my first 10 tier tank. is it good?

[misty wing]

Mk III 🤔

[faint walrus]

does the T25/2 get better in later tiers because I prefer being a fast and sneaky TD than a slow and more armoured one with no turret rotation

[nimble topaz]

Mk iii?

[misty wing]

Both of the lines get extremely slow towards the end, I would stop now if you want something fast and sneaky

[buoyant turret]

yes

[misty wing]

My guy's playing war thunder 💀

[faint walrus]

ok thanks for the heads up can you recommend any other lines that are faster TD with good guns

[misty wing]

Grille line comes to mind, although the tier 10 does take a hit in terms of camo

FV4005 line is also decently mobile, although the tier 10 is one of the tallest tanks in the game, so... not exactly stealthy

[thorny smelt]

Object 263 line if you want speed and DPM but depressing gun depression. Ho-Ri is decently fast but with a better gun.

[thorny smelt]

You mean Chieftain Mk. VI?

[buoyant turret]

oh yeah, right, it's VI. sorry.

[faint walrus]

out of the Grille, FV4005, Object 263 and Ho-Ri can any move their turret or do all high tier TD's become fixed turret tanks?

[thorny smelt]

T110E4, FV4005, and FV215b 183 are the ones with turret. Grille is also included as 'turreted' TDs. The rest are turret-less TDs

[graceful iris]

Nope

[faint walrus]

Which has a better heavy line IS-7 or IS-4?

[thorny smelt]

IS-7 is quite popular

[faint walrus]

Are there any other special mechanics like tracer shells?

[thorny smelt]

Tungsten shells

[slow kite]

People often argue about this but I think the concensus is IS-7. I’ve heard it has flaws like an easy ammo rack to hit but is otherwise very strong and pretty fast

[faint walrus]

what do they do and who can use them?

[slow kite]

Grille and Doombarn have turrets but I don’t know rotation limits on FV. Grille goes 60° each way

[strange thicket]

IS-7 doesn't have a weak ammorack

[past fractal]

It kinda did before its buff, but it indeed was overmemed about it

@slow kite DOOMbarn has 90* on its sides

[thorny smelt]

It increases your AP damage

[strange thicket]

Didn't
Just don't be dum and de angle the pike which isn't a lot to ask 💀

[faint walrus]

Is the T-34-85, T-43, T-44 a good medium line for Tier 6,7,8?

[acoustic galleon]

34-85 is decent, the rest are meh.

[hollow sequoia]

the t-54 and the t-62a are pretty nice on the other hand

[strange ingot]

Just get them through the light tanks

[strange thicket]

Light tanks >> meds in both 62a 's and 140 's line

[strange ingot]

T100 is cancer along with obj 84

[strange thicket]

Cancer is an extremely good for you ig 😂
But not for the enemy

[hollow sequoia]

i like how the obj 84 is lighter than the t92e1 even though it has way more armor

[faint walrus]

thanks ill do the light tank line to get to t-54/obj 84

[plucky summit]

Size matters, somewhat more than armor differences

AMX CDC isn't a light because it's just so large that it's too heavy to be classified as a light tank

[graceful iris]

thoughts on obj 84? gonna grind t100 soon. is obj 84 fun tank or should i just skip it?

[plucky summit]

I don't see much a point in skipping it

[hollow sequoia]

dont skip it, its fun
the armor is just dumb, lots of auto-bounce angles. this doesnt mean youre invincible so dont tank stuff like a heavy, just play normally

[blissful osprey]

Object 84 is flat.

[plucky summit]

Not gonna be very pretty but ok

[past fractal]

Caernihilator

[civic iron]

Caernihilator 183

[late wave]

Chairnihilator 184

[mystic sleet]

"Not gonna be pretty but ok" *proceeds to make a vehicle that looks better than quite a few works posted in #blitz-art *

Also this is a joke.
Also, could you make a CAX turret mounted on E75 chassis and Ho-Ri type 2's top gun? Thank you

[plucky summit]

I was mainly referring to having to squash the rotary device in there

And I'm probably able to do that req for you

@mystic sleet

May I note that of course this will look better than most blitz-art posts because they're based on pre-made models that I'm not creating myself, while the artists must create their own mediums of art

[mystic sleet]

Fair enough

Now nobody will be able to tell me that Action X sucks :troll_face:

[lethal bobcat]

ok so like, I input my setup for my SU-130PM on blitzhangar; would y'all say this dpm is pretty op?

[violet timber]

Seems like your using crew skills there

The most the 130pm can get to is 2,665

[lethal bobcat]

I don't even have them all maxed lol

[violet timber]

Still very situational dpm

[wise moth]

I'm pretty sure that's not possible. And even if it is, that's with adrenaline rush, adrenaline, and rage active (meaning for just one shot after killing an enemy while being on low HP with the consumable active)

[lethal bobcat]

I'd say it's probs pretty accurate, given what I do manage to pull off in a short period of time in rounds, 4.5k seems correct. I've tested it in training rooms as well, and it gets pretty much right around there. That was without adrenaline as well

[plucky summit]

You sure it fires 9-10 times a minute?

[lethal bobcat]

the high dmg is account for frequent high-roll, which I luckily do get most of the time, the dps isn't accounting for that

[plucky summit]

Yes but that DPM is if you max roll every time

[lethal bobcat]

yea, the dpm is account for max roll, and the dps is not

[plucky summit]

You'll never practically reach that DPM

[plucky summit]

Rage/Adren Rush is VII + IV, Precision Fire Active, Adrenaline active with both foods gives you the DPM up there

[solid gate]

is fv 201 good?

[plucky summit]

It's not that good, but it can do the job

[solid gate]

Caernarvon t7

[plucky summit]

Basically.

[strange ingot]

What do you need it for

[hollow notch]

Paper hull
Not fast
Not amazing gun depression
Pathetic alpha
Less than ideal pen

The only things is has is dpm and mantlet armor.

[wintry orchid]

And premium status

[solid gate]

Good depression, it's bad when it's below 7

[blissful osprey]

They gave the 130 some steroids and called it a day.

[blissful osprey]

No gun depression. Instant suck.

[graceful iris]

soo i haven't seen a lot of T32's in tours. now im seeing a lot of people suggesting T32 for tours. thoughts?

[violet timber]

T32 is basically a med on steroids

[wise moth]

Not a lot of people keep T32 in their garage because it's a tech tree tank. Also, people don't realize how strong it is right now

[violet timber]

^

[graceful iris]

thanks for help

[wise moth]

I'm telling you, all you need to smack most tier 8 teams is to just run 4xT32, and 3xM26. Guranteed claps

[graceful iris]

maybe 3 is too many. if enemy has full heavy or even 6 heavies they can just push and probably win

[plucky summit]

Given that T32s are strong position holders, and the M26s can now bleed the enemy out quickly, that may not be the case

[graceful iris]

maybe NA is different but in EU tours its mostly about who has more heavies. full heavy team has very high chance of winning against 4 heavies and 3 meds.. they can just push. if T32s are in good position other team may lose one tank but if they continue pushing they'll probably win

idk my clan never really used T32s. didn't meet many of them either. dont really have experience with T32 but in general, more heavies are better in most cases

[plucky summit]

T32 arguably has the strongest turret in tier 8 (and besides VK100, the weakest turret weakspot)

[graceful iris]

weird combo lol

[plucky summit]

You'll probably never hit the weakspot if the T32 does anything

[graceful iris]

cupola cant even be penned by some meds and most lights but weakspot can be heshed by 251 lol

[plucky summit]

I mean, with GD, the cupola is basically invincible to all but the top guns, with the weakspot exception of course

[graceful iris]

nvm weakspot cant be heshed. IF we're talking about weakspot on top of hatch.. i doubt you'll ever hit that in actual battle

[plucky summit]

But if you want your hardcase versatile heavy for tourneys, T32 is there, arguably better than even the Shark

[graceful iris]

really better than shark? i mean.. shark has better armor, dpm, pen, accuracy, mobility..

[wise moth]

Shark has nothing on T32 other than marginally better accuracy

[graceful iris]

mobility, gun and armor. all factors are better on shark. or am i missing something?

[wise moth]

The armor is worse, it doesn't have super consumables, has way worse HP, and even has worse view range

[graceful iris]

armor is worse? damn.. i've been lied to my whole life

[plucky summit]

They removed the only three weakpoints of T32 by buffing the pen and giving it superconsumables, as well as hardening the hull armor

[wise moth]

It has very marginally better mobility (due to higher speed limit) and very marginally better DPM.

That's it. It loses the HP, super consumables, and has a much worse turret in exchange. That's a terrible trade

[plucky summit]

:p

[graceful iris]

and HP is same. unless you run reactive armor in T32? then if you run super boost too you'll be left with 1 repair kit. not a huge problem but can be risky

[wise moth]

T32 has sandbag provisions

[graceful iris]

ohhh didn't know that lol

[plucky summit]

Even with reactive armor, the HP is the same
It's just more effective HP when you run RA

[graceful iris]

yup. it reduces taken dmg but HP is same. still can be considered as more hp imo

[wise moth]

Sandbags + reactive make it so much harder to kill than a Shark.

Also, the turret is just so much better. T32 can turn his turret a ton and hold the angles far more easily then shark can

[graceful iris]

nice. ill probably grind it next month along with pershing

[plucky summit]

American tech tree is actually interesting for once

[wise moth]

Also, after the hull armor buff, against standard ammo (this is IS-3's 225 AP), T32 is just as obnoxious to pen frontally, if not more than Shark

[graceful iris]

lol i haven't really touched american tech tree. only t10s i have are german and soviet. max tier in american tech tree i have currently is t6. M6 and E8

[hollow sequoia]

im surprised not many people play the t32

[plucky summit]

I had no tier 6+ in the USA tree until Yoh came out

[graceful iris]

same. i dont even have one rn lmao

[wise moth]

It's because it's not flashy. It's an ancient tech tree tank, with a mediocre reputation.

It's not like the Shark where youtubers hyped it up like "omg pay2win prem tank".

Nah, the T32 has just sat on the back shelf of everyone's minds, slowly getting more and more OP with each small buff

[graceful iris]

nice. so from what i see it has no big weaknesses.. but how does it play? would you recommend aggressive playstyle?

[plucky summit]

Yo I should totally make an armor effectiveness sheet

[graceful iris]

that'd be epic