vehicles-discussion

[boreal spruce]

yep his turret was very nice (apart from the hatchs ofc

@plucky summit should i add in side armour or is that too much?

[plucky summit]

Too much

You'll pen anyways

[boreal spruce]

great. then that's the finished chart. 😎
feel free to use it 👍

[plucky summit]

Thanks for the opportunity

[boreal spruce]

no worries mate. 💯

[misty wing]

Should've made red strong and green weak

[elfin grove]

Hello

[oak pollen]

Should I go for E-50 M or Obj. 268

I mean E-100 or Obj. 268

[graceful iris]

first t10?

[oak pollen]

Nope

[graceful iris]

then depends

[oak pollen]

Ok

[glacial kiln]

Is this right scale in this tank

I don't know if it right

[scarlet sequoia]

Is this a good amount of pen?

[umbral hamlet]

what tank?

[scarlet sequoia]

Borsig

[umbral hamlet]

yes it's good, but run gun rammer instead of cali, the penetration is already enough

[scarlet sequoia]

The dpm loss is too much

[violet timber]

That’s why he’s saying to run rammer

[thorny smelt]

12,8 cm gun on Rhm-B?

[scarlet sequoia]

Yes

[thorny smelt]

Get the 15 cm gun as soon as you can

[scarlet sequoia]

I have it

[thorny smelt]

Then go for it. It's a lovely gun. You can use CS since 215 mm AP pen is on the below avg side

It is still up to you if you want the 12,8 cm gun

[scarlet sequoia]

I am using it, but i was asking if it is ever worth using the 128

[thorny smelt]

If you feel comfortable with 12,8 cm gun then go ahead

I used the stock gun on St. Emil in a long time without any problem.

[manic carbon]

It’s not bad you can use it but I stick to the 640 alpha gun. It’s just more fun in my opinion to use, it’s derpy but you get reticle calibration to help with that.
Also it’s partly because If I felt like using the lower caliber gun I’d just pull out the Skorpion g

[thorny smelt]

But you get the benefit of Spall Liner that Skorp G doesn't have

I also use the 15 cm gun on Rhm without RC and I can still pen enemy tanks

[manic carbon]

Sure, but I wouldn’t need to be baby proofed from HE to be able to play my glass cannon. I’d take the better gun, higher DPM if it means I’m more vulnerable. It’s all preference I’m sure other players would be the inverse and would prefer better protection.

Also about reticle calibration I am just saying that that consumable is extremely useful on the 15 cm gun because the accuracy is derpy with not great shell velocity.

[manic carbon]

They are both good lines to go down, there isn’t much that can be said without knowing what you like to play and what your preferences are in a tank

[strange thicket]

ehh, i think it is faulty to not take spall liner to not be baby proofed. it is a clear advantage why leave it? and also allows for more aggressive plays

[manic carbon]

I’m not saying don’t use spall liner if it is available on the tank lol

I’m just saying that I wouldn’t choose the RHM with 12,8cm gun over the Skorpion just because it has spall liner.
Again just a personal opinion

[oak pollen]

Thank 🙂

[nova hull]

Should I use toolbox or enhanced track on Emil 1951?

[violet timber]

Tool box

[ebon cedar]

hi people

[violet timber]

Hi

[hollow sequoia]

always use toolboxes on anything, enhanced tracks is just eh compared to it

[hollow notch]

Tracks on everything. If you have to wait for something to repair you are either safely sidescraping or screwed

[balmy compass]

The track thing doesn’t repair the tracks faster, toolbox repairs everything faster

[fast breach]

🤔

[plucky summit]

💀

[balmy compass]

Old teasers

[hollow notch]

Repair kits: instant repair.

If the track doesn't break in the first place (more track health) you don't have to waste a repair kit on it.

If you have already used up both repair kits and you are waiting for something to repair automatically, you made serious misplays.

[copper swan]

Dracula:

[flint eagle]

30 1er Or Action X?
Just barely have enough for 30 1er. Maybe wait and get both cheaper later?

[solid gate]

30 1er. No contest

[balmy compass]

I see your logic

[flint eagle]

Thanks! Confirmed my thinking

[solid gate]

Dracula is overrated and helsing is complete garbage (:

[violet timber]

Debatable

[plucky summit]

That’s like saying Hellcat is complete garbage

[balmy compass]

Helsing has wack armor

[bronze yew]

Imo the helsing is the worst tank ever but that’s just me most ppl love it

[lyric flume]

No you are wrong it is stupid broken what are you talking about

[solid gate]

whats better t29 or m-vii-yoh

[plucky summit]

It's not "stupid" broken, just really good.

[umbral hamlet]

t29, but if you want a good tier10 go for the M-6-yoh,not the t110e5

[solid gate]

ah okay thank you

[bronze yew]

I said imo don’t act like I just killed your mom lmao

[hollow notch]

How can a medium with a completely broken gun be the worst tank?

[bronze yew]

The turret traverse and dispersion is utter crap and it’s not even that fast

[scarlet kernel]

Turret traverse and hull traverse when i played it is not good. So i can see why

[bronze yew]

For my play style it is the worst tank - other ppl may love it but I just rlly hate that traverse

[plucky summit]

Your "playstyle" doesn't really matter to the tank's performance, it would help to specify that you meant by your playstyle before you made the opinion that Helsing "is the worst tank ever"

[bronze yew]

That’s why i said imo, didn’t know ppl needed that much clarification

[plucky summit]

I think others may find it a safe bet to call your opinion wrong, since you didn't mention by playstyle

[scarlet kernel]

so saying "IMO" or "in MY opinion" doesn't instantly say "according to MY playstyle" ? got it

[bronze yew]

Sorry then didn’t mean to offend everyone

[scarlet kernel]

it's okay it's pretty common in the internet

[olive mica]

My name says it all

[violet timber]

Might be a little much

[plucky summit]

Yeah E100 isn't that bad

Might wanna look at T110E4 first

[past fractal]

T110E4 isn’t bad either

[plucky summit]

Yeah but E100 is just better, that's all

[devout chasm]

E100 is fun and all but its also fun draining 1k hp with a foch 155 XD

[ebon cedar]

Is it still possible for you to gift something to other wot blitz players?

[plucky summit]

Depends if such offers are available in the store

[ebon cedar]

kk thx

should I grind for the Is-7?

can someone friend me so I have someone to chat with when Im bored?
z7082#5314

Btw should I grind for the T57 Heavy through the T49 line or the T54E1 line?

[bright yoke]

bri'ish

[ebon cedar]

Did you edit the names or not? If you did, It is more understandable why the FV301 is called a Vickers Cruiser and why the Vickers Cruiser is called the FV301.

[balmy compass]

Old teaser, thing have changed since then

[bright yoke]

Drac > Helsing. Change my mind

[livid moss]

Ur mind go in trash

[umbral hamlet]

yes, it's a pretty good tier10 and the grind isnt bad either

[scarlet kernel]

I have to remind EMIL and kran players that moving your gun up doesn't increase the turret armor effectiveness, it just hides your cupola

And also hide the back of your turret which stores ammo so you don't get ammoracked fronttally

[low flax]

Imagine a tank so much broken, wargaming still doesnt sell it directly in bundles.
even after 3 years in game it still in cases.

[plucky summit]

It's not that broken tbh

[thorny smelt]

YOLO on WZ-120-1G FT and you're a dead meat

[low flax]

i dont really know about the tank cuz i didnt own it and rarely go against it.

but as far as i know if its in cases it has to be new or broken.
Since it has best wr in tier8 td's with decent amount of players. Its safe to call its over performing.

[strange thicket]

It is a very good td
A little op i would say
Heavy HP buffs kinda keep it in check though

[fast breach]

Names are unchanged, if you look in the old photos in coming soon channel you will see it yourself

[acoustic galleon]

In a heavy no (still very strong I would say) but in other classes yes.

[scarlet kernel]

Is the Wz blaze good?
I still don't have a td or a lt in my freemium acc, so should i get it to grind my crew skills, or should i save?

[umbral hamlet]

no, it's not even decent

[scarlet kernel]

Alr

[frail dagger]

me who got the wz-120-1g ft from xmas 2019

[viscid jackal]

Nope.

[thorny smelt]

Get the Jagdtiger 8,8 cm instead

[vocal spindle]

How's the CDA

[violet timber]

Decent, good gun, good mobility, meh armor

[graceful iris]

so eh, what's real purpose of t57? clearing out low hp targets? there's 50B. holding ridge line? there's kran. fighting along heavies? there's yoh and kran. supporting heavies from 2nd line/flanking? there's 50b. like, i want to grind it but other autoloaders just seem better..

[polar gull]

t57 has troll armor and it’s meant for straight brawling. kran can’t brawl amazingly bc of the dpm and 50b doesn’t have armor. t57 has good enough dpm to brawl w heavies. yoh is also just a farming tank you can’t reliably frontline due to its trash hull. but i mean you have a point i always liked 50b over t57 in terms of that argument

[violet timber]

T57 is there to provide lots of fire support very quickly. You can get out your clip in less time than a 50b, and you have more armor than a 50b.

[graceful iris]

hmm t57 would probably be similar to yoh when brawling. both have weakspots that are pretty easy to pen in close range. but ye you got point

main thing i like about t57 is short interclip. it can shoot all 3 shells and take only one in return while 50b could take 2 shots in return for full clip. but 50b has really nice speed and im struggling to choose..

[violet timber]

Just get both

[graceful iris]

perhaps

[sharp gale]

I need some advice for the 50tp, I got the turret upgrade but not the gun (but I don’t think it will make a difference) but my win rate in it is 20% (my average is like 52) and I can’t figure out what to do. It’s so bad in every way. 15 second reload for 350 damage. No armor for being a heavy, very slow, horrible dispersion. What do I even do with the thing

[violet timber]

Just play it hull down. Ez

It’s a really good tank, just make sure you judge it when you have maxed crew and all the bells and whistles

[graceful iris]

its 420 dmg per 14 secs. still bad though yea. stock gun is pretty bad on 50tp but armor is pretty good. dispersion is decent and for a heavy, its not too slow

[copper swan]

second line support better

[copper swan]

show me screenshot the modules and equipment in your garage screen for that 50tp tyszkiewicza
you should play 50tp fully equipped with adreline and tungsten shells for high AP damage, and don't play stock plus hulldown

[spark basin]

seems like the addition of the super consumables to the vk line didnt change much

[atomic forge]

how much does the phoenix 0-47 cost when its in store?

[solid gate]

I buyed it for 5.5k and i got like 10 masteries in one week, pretty nice tank

[atomic forge]

dang i am 2k short of the gold i need

idk just realized its Gundam inspired tank so i need it now lol

[graceful iris]

wait what. it is?

[atomic forge]

yee lol

i really like the series so i thought i would get the tank when it makes it back into the store

[graceful iris]

oh it isnt exactly based on gundam but gundam artist designed it yeah

[balmy compass]

it doesnt appear very often, I got my O-47 at the christmas auction for 2.5k gold

[atomic forge]

yup yup

[atomic forge]

prefect now i just wait till next Christmas lol

also do you think the girls in a panzer tanks will come back? trying to get a anime tank collection lol

[distant nymph]

Quick question: 112 Glacial or T54 Mod.1? Which is more worth the money, disregarding playstyle, I can play everything pretty much (Ping me)

[umbral hamlet]

noone of them, they're both out of meta and not even decent tanks

[graceful iris]

hmmm should i grind T100 and 60tp? like, im just worried of them getting nerfed. it wouldn't be surprising if they get nerf soon.. so.. is a month of hard grinding worth short term fun?

[boreal spruce]

the T100 line is quite fun, and the polish heavys grind is a nice gun depp+alpha+ armour line. both are not painful lines to grind

[vital flax]

I would grind 60TP line just for 53TungstenPower and not 60TankPoo

[safe cedar]

T57 is essentially a "clean up" tank

[solid gate]

Is the tankenstien non killable crew make it good now?

[safe cedar]

The fact that the T57 has heat whereas the 50b has apcr clearly establishs their roles.

[solid gate]

Any good tanks to buy

[boreal spruce]

yes, many good ones, what are you looking ofr? HT, LT, TD, MT, armour? big gun etc?

[solid gate]

Big gun

[boreal spruce]

what type of big gun, TD, MT, or HT?

[solid gate]

That part doesn't matter

[boreal spruce]

so chimera, (if you have the gold) M6 if you want an average heavy, and the jag for average alpha but great DPM and armour.
if you have enough gold for the chimera just get the chimera

[solid gate]

I'll probably have enough for the Chim, tomorrow, I'll just use the progetto i earned from automn lockbox, i appreciate the input

[boreal spruce]

no worries good luck

[solid gate]

Danke

[graceful iris]

Yup polish are pretty good

@vital flax yee 53tp can be really good in hilly maps. had to fight it in 1v1 tours and.. it didn't go well

@safe cedar that's what I'm saying, 50b is kinda better at cleaning up

[graceful iris]

I wouldn't call jag "average alpha". Second highest in the game

Oh nvm you're talking about jagtiger. Thought it was about jageroo lol

[boreal spruce]

🤣 🤣

[graceful iris]

Lmao i only realised it later after rereading it

[boreal spruce]

dont you hate when that happens,

i embarrassed myself the other day on Wot PC when i talked about the tier 9 M5 yoh and in PC its tier 10... in front of my whole clan too.....

[graceful iris]

Lol happens

[boreal spruce]

i have 30 members in my clan and i was siking them for this years tounreys. it was very embarrassing🤦‍♂️

[safe cedar]

50B traverse absolutely kills the tank though

[boreal spruce]

if you play the wz113 beforehand then the amx feels lovely.🗿

[graceful iris]

Bullying WZ-113 with med is satisfying lmao

[boreal spruce]

just circling the thing is satisfying

[graceful iris]

Yup that's what I'm saying. Hell, i circled it with IS-7 once

[rare ice]

Uhh They royally screwed up the T28 I was just in a game could’ve carried easily but right when I got pushed my gun stopped working it just said 0.0 reloaded couldn’t use repair kits or anything it just broke costing me the win

[violet timber]

Not really? The difference is that HEAT doesn’t ricochet while APCR can, but APCR gets normalization

[strange thicket]

T57 is a close quarters support tank
50B is the clean up tank, with its mobility it can push on low hp tanks. wipe them and get out of there.
it also rotates much better around the map. T57's style is more static

[turbid mesa]

Anyone proficient with Russian TDs willing to PM me?

[boreal spruce]

the 263 or 268?

[turbid mesa]

Both... I am a returning WoT player with a near decade gap. I can still perform well but I am obviously looking to fill in gaps of knowledge

[thorny smelt]

Don't expect any good armor in the 263 line like you do in WOT PC.

[solid gate]

Is the badger worth it?

[turbid mesa]

I've noticed the lackimg armor from the ISU

Doesn't give me much desire to finish the line but to stop at both T8s

[thorny smelt]

Which ISU? I'm referring to the 263 line which includes the SU-100M1, SU-101, and SU-122-54

[turbid mesa]

Speaking on a tangent. Both starting with SU100M1 and ISU 152 are not in terms of armor of what I remember from PC days

[violet timber]

This is a very good description of both

[solid gate]

60TP or Maus?

[strange thicket]

what exactly do you want your role to be on the battleground?
the answer to that will be your cue to pick either

[plucky summit]

Fun Fact: Titan H-N got renamed to Titan H-Nd

[lyric flume]

Both cool tank depends on what you want

[ebon cedar]

The 60TP is a nice tank. I think all the german tier 10 heavy tank armor got nerfed so mabye the 60TP would be a better choice. This is just a suggestion

[strange thicket]

no german tier 10 heavies didn't get their armor touched
the maus got an HP nerf and a dispersion nerf
but it is still a very good tank, it depends on what you wanna do on the battleground.

[final vapor]

Is this worth it

[violet timber]

No

[final vapor]

Ok

[boreal spruce]

not really

[spring herald]

is caernarvon action 10 still good? i wonder if tech tree emil is better

[boreal spruce]

you cant compare both tanks really,
the action X is one of the go to tier 8 pew pew heavies.
and the emil 1 is a stronk autoloader.
both are very good.

[shrewd viper]

Should I buy 53tp or kv4?

[boreal spruce]

53tp is one of the best tier8 TT heavies at the mo, so i would go for the 53tp, (plus it leads to the 60tp so...)

[coral heart]

I'd say 53TP, kv-4 is pain train(trust me, it's super pain when stock)

[silk charm]

should i go aggressive with chimera or wait it out?

[vernal sail]

I ended up buying the fury as a meme but then I destroyed four enemy tanks I was the last tank and we won

This is from the match

[vernal sail]

I have come to love the tank I despised so much. THE M4 SERIES.

[nimble topaz]

did u cap? lol the habicha is alive 😮

[vernal sail]

I believe so

[solid gate]

I mostly want to be in frontline

[fiery pilot]

Is grinding AMX 50 120 a good choice?

[umbral hamlet]

go for 60tp, its tech tree line and playstyle are much more newbie friendly than Maus'

[solid gate]

Ok thank you

[vernal sail]

The Maus is not worth in wot. I suffered a lot.

[umbral hamlet]

it's a good tank if you know how to angle properly, but the avarage maus player doesn't even know how to move from the spawn

[vernal sail]

What’s painful about it for me is the long reload time and having circles ran around me.

Usually I would hang back and snipe (I know I’m gonna piss everyone off by saying that) but that didn’t work out to well either

[umbral hamlet]

you need to know the positions where you can stay without getting circled, and especially don't rely too much on the gun

[vernal sail]

I’m too stupid how am I not supposed to rely on the massive man cannon on that thing

[umbral hamlet]

it has poor pen and dpm

you cannot brawl with it, unless your enemy is a noob and bounces every shot

Maus supposed to trade with armor: you bounce and the enemy does not, a wise player won't bother shooting if you keep bouncing its shots

[plucky summit]

You think a 130mm is massive?

[vernal sail]

Certainly bigger than your 40mm Peter

[strange thicket]

152,150,155,139,183,170mm guns:

[balmy compass]

No wonder I cant pen E 100 🗿

[charred vigil]

Maus is very strong, your job is to bounce and trade, to stay alive. You won't do alot of damage quickly but the longer you stay alive you can do some quite hefty damage.

[distant nymph]

Is the Ram II a nice or unique tier 5? I know you'll say "keep your money for a tier 8" but a nice tier 5 can be sometimes better than an average tier 8

[violet timber]

Ram 2 is meh, just get a Sherman if you need to scratch that tier 5 itch

[distant nymph]

I faced one two or three years ago and it seemed to have quite good armor. It ripped and tore through my team like nothing, maybe that was just sealclubbing

[coral heart]

ram II is basically sherman with british esque fast firing gun

[vital flax]

T-34 57mm gun is similar. If you liked it then you'll prob like Ram II as well

[final mist]

amx50b orr kranvagn

[violet timber]

50B

[plucky summit]

No questions
(Just kidding I'm happy to answer any)

[balmy compass]

why no second turret

[plucky summit]

Wh

Where?!

[balmy compass]

the back 🙄

[plucky summit]

I doubt I'm capable enough to do that 😂

[spring herald]

where might this tank want to be on this map?

concept 1B

[violet timber]

Anywhere on this ridge line works

[umbral hamlet]

kran line is much better especially if you're a beginner

[distant nymph]

I play all three heavy auto loader lines at once and as far as the tier 8s of those lines here’s my opinion: I surprisingly liked the T69 by far for its kinda small size, trollish turret and good DPM (for an auto loader) Then the 50 100 for its mobility and clipping potential, a good mobile clipper and clean up tank. I least like the Emil because its gameplay is too static and slow, it is a bit too inflexible. So for AMX vs kran - amx for support and cleanup, kran for static hull down gameplay with limited movement

[violet timber]

Emil is the opposite of inflexible but okay

[karmic leaf]

Guys i got back into the game like 3 days ago should i continue my grind for stb1 or not?

Is it still good?

[misty wing]

yes, but E50M and the americans are the "meta" mediums right now

[umbral hamlet]

stb1 grind is a complete disaster, except for the tier9 and 10, so if you aren't above tier6 I'd suggest you to change and get an heavy like IS7, Kranvagn or 60tp

[karmic leaf]

I maxed out the tier 6 and i already have the is7

[umbral hamlet]

go for 60tp,or if you really want a medium I'd say t62a

[karmic leaf]

Yeah ill most probably go for the 60tp so what i get from you is that the stb1 is not good anymore?

[umbral hamlet]

stb1 is a great tank, the problem is the grind

[karmic leaf]

Oh i see

I have 144 k free xp im thinking of buying the 100k free xp for 2800 gold maybe free xp the tier 9 directly what do you think

[umbral hamlet]

sta-1 sucks, type61 requires a lot of skill and chi-ri has a great gun but with tier6 penetration

[umbral hamlet]

no you better grind a new line, go for t62a (passing by the mt25, lttb and t54ltwl)

use free exp only to upgrade modules if you don't have plenties of it

[karmic leaf]

Aightt deall man just one last questoon is the 100k free xp offer for 2800 gold worth it or nah?

[misty wing]

it's not bad, but looks like you can't actually afford it

[karmic leaf]

I need 80 more elite xp lol

[spring herald]

its similar to converting xp to free xp but maybe tiny bit cheaper

[karmic leaf]

I get 30k bonus thats it

[misty wing]

100K free xp is normally 4k gold, so it's a fair bit cheaper

[ebon cedar]

How you got so much gold? Do you spend money on it?

[eternal canopy]

you don't have to pay to get gold
a free-to-play player can get the same amount through gold ads and daily mission rewards, albeit for a longer time

[ebon cedar]

I know, It just takes a while to get the gold. Like a lot of it.

btw are the lucky containers worth it?

[hard cedar]

no

[dark hemlock]

Is e50 M worth getting?

[strange thicket]

yes, meta medium

[dark hemlock]

Ohk thx

[final mist]

Which gun in mVy is better, 2 or with 3 bullets

[copper swan]

3 because more damage per minute and slower reload

[final mist]

difference is only by 4 seconds, + with 3 bullets u cant do as quick dmg as with 2 bullets

[copper swan]

that 4 seconds can be crucial in a losing match to carry teammates and get huge damage games

[strange thicket]

difference in dpm is nonexistent
might as well have the nuke launcher than the pea shooter

[copper swan]

your choice then

[strange thicket]

lol

[fast compass]

Then use the top 3 shell gun

Gun handling on the 3 shot is worth in itself. You'll never be aimed in with the 2 shot for the second shell in time

[silk charm]

Finally, the 46 is in the store. Is the bundle worth it? How is the 27 even played?

[thorny smelt]

I think just like the Skoda T-25

[runic cloud]

The 46 is worth it, its a great tank that is fun to play and reliably wins matches.

[silk charm]

Ye I really would love it, but would the bundle be worth it?
Also, why is the skoda worth more than the prog

[runic cloud]

cuz its newer i suppose, people know less about it so wg can milk it

[silk charm]

It is quite balanced right? I still feel the bundle is meh though

[hard cedar]

yes compare the stock 3 shot and top 2 shot 💀

[umbral hamlet]

prog is op-ish, skoda is good too but it doesn't have the autoreloader flexibility (it's also overpriced as hell)

[solid gate]

Is the tankenstien ability even noticeable?

[wispy hearth]

People don't play tankenstien much anyways

[silk charm]

Pick

[violet timber]

Yes

[balmy compass]

boomtastic looks better imo

[misty wing]

Both are bad

[mild stream]

I could have got those tanks if the mods in this server didn't banned me for awhile

[plucky summit]

Wdym? Describe how you could have received the tank and how the server allowed you to do it

[mild stream]

👀🧠☠️💥💥🙉

[plucky summit]

🤦‍♂️

[solid gate]

Hori or foch?

[violet timber]

Ho-Ri

[umbral hamlet]

hori

[umbral hamlet]

1st

[elder stag]

We need more tanks.

[neat nimbus]

How this camouflage is more cheaper than the action x's legendary Camouflages

[balmy compass]

Inflation

[neat nimbus]

Yeah

Now save this for when the Japanese heavies arrives

[strange thicket]

O
My bad

[neat nimbus]

WG inconsistencies

[steep canyon]

is T-100LT broken?

[cold jackal]

Reckon we'll get 50tp prototype for gold or a repeat of the same event?

[misty wing]

I would say it's overpowered, not broken. Needs a nerf to dpm and pen imo

[umbral hamlet]

it's overpowered, but i like the fact that you actually need a brain to make it work, I've seen lots of noobs struggling with the 5 gun dep and that's a good thing

imo it would still need a nerf, because if you know how to use it you can 1v1 mediums and win, and that's not what a light is supposed to do so probably a dpm nerf would be fine

[past fractal]

Oh yeah it can also pen heavies frontally because its premium ammo is AP

To be fair every almost tier 10 LT can pen heavies frontally, and that shouldnt be the case imo

[plucky summit]

Okay I think they should, at least with prammo. At least it's not 300 pAP standard over 300 HEAT standard

[karmic leaf]

Guys should i buy chimera for 10k gold?

[misty wing]

If you like its playstyle, sure

[karmic leaf]

I mean is it worth it?

I also have a question is the lowe still the highest credit coeff for premium tanks?

[misty wing]

No, that would probably be the angry Connor or shinobi

I think the jt88 actually has more than the lowe as well, and WG keeps buffing it

[karmic leaf]

Aight thanks

[misty wing]

Nvm the JT doesn't. I think it changed with the economy rebalance though

[karmic leaf]

Ah i see

[plucky summit]

The only tier 8 that out-profits the Lowe is the T26E4

The tank itself perform too terribly to out-profit Lowe

[misty wing]

It might've had a chance to out profit lowe before the economy change, since a 90mm shell cost about 200 creds whereas 105s cost 1000 ish

[true wedge]

One of the best offers I've seen so far in wotb, costs about 11 dollars in US currency, and is probably the "cheapest" offers you can get that is similar to a snow globe

[acoustic galleon]

Its not similar to a snow globe, a snow globe has desirable higher tier tanks while the mystery certificates have many low tier or "obsolete" premiums.

[true wedge]

Thats why they are similar, they're not the same but they carry identical premiums

Difference is that the certificate is V-X and the snow globe is VII-X

[true wedge]

And plus it still has tanks that are desirable just look.

[true wedge]

The tank I got from it was the M60 btw, great tank, quite OP

[hard cedar]

Snow globe almost guarantees you get a good tank, mystery certificate does not

[acoustic galleon]

It is supposed to atleast but some of us have exceptionally bad luck. I got a LT432 last year.

[radiant ember]

Can someone send me a Picture of the Gold prices on Nintendo Switch?

[true wedge]

same

[final mist]

which tank is more fun to play, obj 263 or foch

[true wedge]

U've got both?

[final mist]

none

just looking for 'for fun' tanks

[true wedge]

maybe foch, it has a 2 shell clip

[rigid thunder]

263, foch is a big pile of doo doo

[hollow notch]

Foch155 is great
Yolo, yeet 2 autopen heat rounds, run away

[violet timber]

I’m not sure the M60 is OP

[radiant ember]

Can someone send me a Picture of the Gold prices on Nintendo Switch?

[hard cedar]

i mean id say that's pretty good but I said "almost guarantees" for a reason!

[violet timber]

LT432 is good though

[acoustic galleon]

LTs are not for everyone. I personally don't like that playstyle.

[violet timber]

True

[hard cedar]

clearly a skill issue ofc !!!!!

[solid gate]

@bitter jacinth about the thing in #955849180159553546

It’s a complete downgrade from the lttb in all other aspects. Removing the armor makes it just as useless as the Sheridan.

[violet timber]

Where are you seeing this so called “complete downgrade”? From what I see, the ltwt is a better tank in everything except speed

[rare ice]

If only the tier 8 of the Vk 72.01 was as good tier for tier as the Tiger P

[lament wedge]

Hey i wanted to ask which of the current deals in wotb ist the best one for 5€??

(approx. 5€)

[plucky summit]

Honestly VK A is somewhat busted

[balmy compass]

its annoying to play with 6 degress depression

the upper plate is solid until you realise people can shoot the strip of armor above the upper plate and under the turret

[fast compass]

It's kinda balanced. It's a worse m4 49 the way I look at it. Which still means it can be pretty strong

[balmy compass]

imo its a worse tiger II that now has tungsten shell

[fast compass]

Well I suppose it doesn't have the Ridgeline capacity like the m4 49. More closely related to tiger 2. Never played the tiger so I wouldn't know

[plucky summit]

Oh really?

[hard cedar]

yes really. You can shoot any part of the tank.

[plucky summit]

Eh

It is funny though, that the second strongest part of the tank is the cupola. That’ll troll lots of people

[balmy compass]

yes you can hit that purple strip and it deals damage

[plucky summit]

If you have the pen, anyways

[graceful iris]

Is STB-1 worth all the painful grinding or should i just fxp whole line? Second option will take much longer but at least it'll won't be as painful lmao

[balmy compass]

I usually get enough fxp for the modules and grind the tank myself, however for the STB-1 line specifically I haven’t tried grinding it yet

[true wedge]

Well I do nearly an average 3k-4k damage every regular battles, but not all the time, but even in the worst situations like all by myself getting raped by multiple enemys, I still manage to pump out about 1.500-2,000k worth of damage. Its literally the one of the best tier X mt out there in my opinion.

[violet timber]

Personal anecdotes =/= statistical evidence. Just because you do good in a tank does not make it OP

[true wedge]

Well I didn't say that it was OP, I said it just QUITE op, or in other words strong

[misty wing]

Quite OP is still implying that it is OP

[true wedge]

ok but still it is a strong tank tho

[past crane]

That’s spaced armor with nothing behind it
It bounces. I got tons of bounces on that little strip pre-buff, it’s so trollish.
Edit: I got lots of bounces on it when I was playing the VK A as well as going against it

[solid gate]

What should i get pz iv d or hetzer

[violet timber]

PZ. IV

[wanton fjord]

is the SU-85l in the offers worth it?

[past fractal]

Its not easy with standard shells
It is only pennable with premium, and even then dont waste time trying to aim at that small strip

[coral heart]

at which point(if use prammo) you better shoot the front turret instead since it's a bigger target than that small purple strip

[distant nymph]

I remember once upon a time on PC the VK 45 A’s lower plate was THICKER than its upper

[elfin grove]

What tank is it

[distant nymph]

VK 45.02 A, tier 8 German heavy, had a big buff in the current patch

[elfin grove]

Huh

[oak pollen]

Tungsten shell and etc. ?

[distant nymph]

Yep

[umbral hamlet]

Imo no, if you want a good medium just go for the Patton or the leopard, unless you can free exp the whole line until tier9 and fully upgrade it too

[high jackal]

Is Progetto 46 worth the 8500 gold? I know its one of the best t8 premium tanks in the normal world of tanks, but i know vehicles are changed massively in some cases on wotB

[covert horizon]

its overpriced, but its good when you know what you're doing

i did around 5-6.8k and gotten 4 mastery's over 250 battles

but yet again if you want it that badly, just go for it

besides who's stopping you?

[foggy phoenix]

How do i use the IS-3 I keep getting penned by literally anything, even light tanks. I can't angle because it already has a pike nose so what do i do?

[balmy compass]

I kept getting hit in that strip near the middle closer where the turret ring was

[balmy compass]

Apparently people could hit that spot while I was moving towards them

[solid gate]

Nerf smasher

[solid gate]

IS-3 is weak.

[violet timber]

That’s how the Tiger 2 is on blitz right now lol

[violet timber]

imo it is worth it as long as you have the skill to play it well

[hollow notch]

The gun on the prog is broken.
It has mobility and gun depression to use the broken gun.

It all comes down to how competent the player is to be able to abuse the gun.

You will have to decide if you can make a glass cannon work or not.

[limpid river]

how many times a year does the badger come into the game

[balmy compass]

At least 2

[neat nimbus]

I want grind the German light tank line

[balmy compass]

well that ends at Ru-251

[neat nimbus]

Unless WG makes up the high tiers but I doubt about that

[umbral hamlet]

well they eventually will, but since in wot the tier10 sucks massively they will probably give priority to a lot of lines before it

[neat nimbus]

I don't want another tech tree tank from wot pc turned into a collector in wot blitz

[umbral hamlet]

what do u mean? where i mentioned that

[neat nimbus]

Is just I meant they better don't bring a tech tank from wot PC and turn into collector tank in blitz just like the AMX 49 mle (or (59 I don't remember)

[umbral hamlet]

they did that because it would've kinda sucked if they balanced it as a tech tree, because it would had nothing special

instead putting it as a Christmas reward they made it kinda unbalanced on purpose, so it's basically a medium with a better is7 gun and a super-strong frontal armor

[safe cedar]

Mle. 54. (prototype dates 45, 49, 51, and 54)

[past crane]

The German high tier lights according to WG are eventually going to come but not this year, they’ve said every new tech tree for this year is already planned out.
Which means, after the Japanese heavies, we know the next tech tree for the fall will not be German lights.

[thorny smelt]

The Rheinmetall Panzerwagen?

[lapis gulch]

Which nation line and tank type that easy to grind?

[balmy compass]

T1 heavy through M103 was easy for me

[violet timber]

E100 line

[lapis gulch]

Pain

[violet timber]

Not really lmao

[balmy compass]

The tanks are good, I wouldn’t really say they are easy to grind

[lapis gulch]

PAIN

[violet timber]

Where is the pain? They’re all good tanks lmao

It’s literally a line recommended to beginners because it is the opposite of pain

[sage vector]

hey guys is M6 heavy tank is good? (Dont bully me its my first time playing the game)
i kinda get 1000+ damage every match with that.

[balmy compass]

Its good hulldown and can sidecrape well until someone shoots your drive wheel

[sage vector]

how about t1 heavy?

[balmy compass]

Same thing but even more armored for tier V

[sage vector]

i guess its hide and gun than bash?

[balmy compass]

Imo you can do that or push enemies as you have good speed and alot of armor, if you wiggle you can get lucky and cause people to hit your tracks

[sage vector]

what are the most vulnurable part in the whole tank other than the track?

[copper swan]

backside

[balmy compass]

The lower part of the hull that curves out if you mean frontally

[sage vector]

how about the most hardest to pierce?

[balmy compass]

Its still fairly strong however, especially against meds and lights

[copper swan]

turret

[balmy compass]

The front of the turret cant get penned at all

[copper swan]

it can, but hulldown and use 10° gun depression to artificially increase the thickness of the turret armour

[sage vector]

also what is a good tier V medium tank in the ussr section?

[copper swan]

there is only 1, T-34

[solid gate]

I been playing for a good amount of years off and on can someone bc with me and explain how to play m103

[lapis gulch]

Kinda pain for me

[plucky summit]

You really just need to go hulldown, and play support for your heavies. You can’t expect too much out of your turret, but shaking your turret around by driving will throw a few shots away

[balmy compass]

Dont push and dont rely on your armor, its soft, the tank is pretty fast though

[plucky summit]

The gun's appreciable, at least, really just putting shots in

It's a tier 8 bully tank too

[balmy compass]

Dont try to sidescrape with M103 and when I played it gets tracked easily

[plucky summit]

Ooh yeah 51mm and 44mm sides are not sidescraping material

It's littered with 0mm weakspots, for some reason

[balmy compass]

Tank feels like a marshmallow to me tbh

[plucky summit]

It doesn't have much of a gimmick, but I guess 340mm of HEAT pen is considered one.

Just be your general fighter heavy, you have HP, you have decent armor, at least. Moving around makes it effective, too

[past crane]

Yep it’s a nice mobile support heavium style tank

[strange thicket]

Nah that is the is8

[plucky summit]

Yeah, IS-8 does it easily better
M103 can actually try to be a heavy, at least

[timid schooner]

wow

[past fractal]

Dont sidescrape in M103

But you CAN actually sidescrape in T110E5, but its not advisable either

[scarlet kernel]

As long as you don't expose your front track in the e5 you're good

[steep canyon]

a DPM nerf and armor

[elfin grove]

Does E100 have good armor and good gun?

[past crane]

Armor and gun are both eh
The armor is riddled with weak spots but the sides can be very troll. Angle the turret and hide the weak lower plate and you should be ok.
Gun has big alpha, decent pen, but not much else. It’s just another peek-a-boom type heavy.

[strange thicket]

yes, it has a very good combination. you shouldn't rely on either alone
it is a trading heavy and has lots of HP to do so.
and enough armor to deflect shells so you don't get out traded on a reload.
gun is very heavy with not so bad accuracy and good pen and very good prammo.

[elfin grove]

Ahh good that's the tank I'm going for

Thank you

[past crane]

Ye good choice
E100 is a decent line for new players and you’ll learn a lot from the whole branch.

[elfin grove]

Finding your cyberbully on the tank game and you're a tX E100 and his tank is a one kill.
Doom eternal the only thing they fear is you playing

[graceful iris]

opinions on vk100 and mauschen? are they good?

[odd cove]

yes
just mind ur cupola

[acoustic galleon]

The VK100 is amazing, one of the best tech tree heavies.

The Mäuschen is shit IMO, especially compared to the E75 and VK45b. Its turret is weak and gets penned by standard rounds, its slow and its gun is just meh.

[frail dagger]

i can pen with hesh so yea

[graceful iris]

alright thanks

[odd cove]

although from there u get to maus which makes up

[graceful iris]

yup. got top gun for mauschen unlocked so it'll won't be an expensive grind

just 50k fxp for vk100's gun.. and some more if i want engines. dont think ill need them though, ill mostly grind in fun modes

[odd cove]

yuh, gl hf

[graceful iris]

thank

[scarlet kernel]

Blitzhangar is updated now, you can see the stats of the type 57

So what would be better, get the chi nu kai or the type 57?

[distant nymph]

What is this type 57 you’re taking about?

[scarlet kernel]

The new japanese prem ht

[granite crater]

japanese ht

[distant nymph]

It’s weeeeeeird

[thorny smelt]

We are having another hulldown tank

Type 71 is more of a frontline tank

[strange thicket]

and how is that not it being hulldown...?

[thorny smelt]

I just checked the armor and I'd say it's pretty good. If it's a Type 5 Heavy, bless this game

[scarlet kernel]

Noone answered my question, so have this conway instead

[manic carbon]

I’d personally hold onto the gold or money you have.
I would only suggest getting the chi nu Kai if you’re willing to play a bit of tier 5 and need a credit maker, or if you are a tank collector. When it is sold it is usually very expensive and quite steep for a tier 5.

As for the type 57, that tank might be tested on the live servers. If that is the case, you could be waiting a while for the tank to release and it’s stats are liable to be changed until its’ release.
Sometimes tanks get released shortly after being tested, other times it’s months or even a year before it gets released. Just depends on Wargaming’s plans

[solid gate]

Guys im just wondering is the tiger 2 historically accurate?

[violet timber]

Not even close lol

[radiant coral]

Not even the camo

[solid gate]

Yea i heard that an IS2 can penetrate tiger 2 frontal

[violet timber]

Here’s the historical armor if you want to compare for yourself. Also the Tiger 2 never mounted a 10,5cm gun, only 8,8cm. The top engine is slightly historical as it was a proposed upgrade, but it never actually happened. Basically the Tiger 2 in game can be considered the Super Tiger 2

[radiant coral]

#letTigerIIfightM4Shermans

[violet timber]

Ehhhhh, maybe if at close range and it hit the lower plate

[solid gate]

Since its fighting a cold war tank maybe it was like an upgraded version? Like fictional

[violet timber]

Nah, it’s just got game balancing purposes

[solid gate]

Alr thanks now i can finally sleep without thinking much about it

[violet timber]

Most tanks in the game aren’t historically accurate

[radiant coral]

And if we would be "historical accurate" the E-100 should had in game the same engine as Tiger II which means the E-100 should have 1.6 thousand PS
(The upgraded engine ofc)

[violet timber]

And the Tiger P would be able to go backwards as fast as it can go forwards

[radiant coral]

That’s true
Would be ridiculous to watch that in real life

[scarlet kernel]

Also the E-100 apparently would have 80mm of side turret armor

[radiant coral]

Super heavy tank
with 80mm Side turret armor

[balmy compass]

Why does it say “Porsche” turret

[violet timber]

The stock turret of the Tiger 2 is commonly known as the “Porsche” turret, or turret 1-50

[solid gate]

Spähpanzer Ru251

[violet timber]

Yes, that is the name of the tank

[balmy compass]

Its a false nickname

[past fractal]

Angry Connor style

[violet timber]

And yet that’s what it is called

That’s why the second nickname is Turret No. 1-50, since it was put on the first 50 Tiger 2s

[ornate bough]

I'm not enjoying M III Yoh as I did with M VII Yoh... is this normal?

[violet timber]

Well your M-3 yoh is probably stock, where as you had the top config on your M-7

[umbral hamlet]

mIII is far better tier for tier than mVII, so yeah

i'd go as far as to say that mVII sucks and mIII is great

[nimble topaz]

Which is better.... At15 or jagdtiger tier 8

[violet timber]

JgTig

[nimble topaz]

What?!?!

[umbral hamlet]

jagtiger, it has less dpm but more overally armor, far more mobility and alpha

[ornate bough]

actually maybe it's because I haven't unlocked any of the upgrades I'll try it out again tomorrow

[umbral hamlet]

oh understandable, stock mIII is basically a full mVII in tier8

[violet timber]

There’s also a bit of a playstyle change as the M-3 has some semblance of armor where as the M-7 does not. Oh, there’s also the auto loader compared to a cyclic gun

[blissful igloo]

Waiting for tier 9 conqueror armor buff

[violet timber]

It got one not too long ago

[west rapids]

Calibrated or gun rammer for m 103 top gun

[umbral hamlet]

rammer

also you're grinding a trash line mate, t110e5 is the worst tier10 in the game (litterally)

[past crane]

Yeah rammer pen is enough for tier 9
Better get out the DPM instead. The line is good but theE5 isn’t great. Workable, but a shadow of its former self @umbral hamlet

I’d just stop at the M103 if I were you

[violet timber]

215b moment

[molten otter]

any tips for is8 its murdering my winrate

[west rapids]

You mean the last tank is trash, the line isn’t at all

Also I just want to get it out of the way, I’m down to like 3 more lines until I have all tt tanks, and I don’t feel like going down 183 line

[graceful iris]

so

after watching several reviews, i get impression that su100y is good only when its top tier. its fun when you can bully tier 5s but struggles a lot in t7 and its just decent in t6

this could be wrong, please correct me if yes. as f2p, 2k gold isnt that easy to get lol so i wanna think more before buys 100y

[umbral hamlet]

2k gold is about 1 month of gold ads+clan missions, so it isn't really a tragedy if you use them to buy a fun tank (but DON'T do it if you already have 2-3 tier8+ premiums)

[graceful iris]

atm i got raac as my only prem tank. i can restore 5 collector tanks and 3 prems though. IS-5, pudel, t34 shielded, gargoyle, titan mk1, t21, t15 and pz s35.. maybe some more that i missed

i can either get su100y or save gold for black friday/blitz fair

[west rapids]

Why’d you sell is 5?

[balmy compass]

I have like the SU100Y its high damage is fun although it does struggle against tier 7 with its low armor and extremely large profile, but its fun to deal 450-500 damage to enemies, like half their HP in one shot 😂

[vital gazelle]

what should i grind-muas-leo-sheri-m57 heavy-wz-121. i have stock teir 9s for all of them

[odd cove]

wz-121

[violet timber]

T57

[balmy compass]

T57 is a good option

[slow kite]

I'll jump on the t57 heavy train

[umbral hamlet]

t57 or 121, they're both fun and good tanks

tbf i never played 121, so in gonna say t57 because it's my tier10 with highest average damage

[boreal spruce]

which do you hate the most? grind that so its over with and you can go grind a nicer tier 9 stock tank.

[vital gazelle]

wz would be the worst stock :/

[boreal spruce]

then grind him out. im currently grinding the wz121 and am at the tier8, 👍
(im lucky though cause i have the 113 line so most of the modules are grinded already!) 😎

[vital gazelle]

t-34-2 was fun

[boreal spruce]

its is, 122mm go brrrr

[vital gazelle]

👍

[tough steeple]

So has the Emil 1/2 and Kranvagn never seen combat use?

[boreal spruce]

irl? never, the kranvagn turret was never completed

[violet timber]

They only had a hull, no turret was ever actually created, only wooden mock-ups

[boreal spruce]

@tough steeple just the hull

[tough steeple]

Lol

[boreal spruce]

@tough steeple here is a basic history of the tank 🇸🇪
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l6sfVohugU

[tough steeple]

Thanks

[hollow plover]

how do you play french light tanks?

[boreal spruce]

spot, 🕶️
wait for support(other meds or heavies) 🦆
clip when enemy is not looking. 😎
if in doubt always flee. 🥐
speak french. 🥖
say Viva La Baguette everytime you dump your whole clip.🇫🇷

[thorny smelt]

Equip with Calibrated Shells once you get the AMX 12t and do this on the rest of the Batignolles-Chatillon 25t line

[hollow plover]

what about elc?

i mean i have the free xp and silver to skip it i guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
should i skip it lol

[thorny smelt]

If you have plenty of FXP then skip it. It's like a light tank destroyer.

[hollow plover]

alrighty, i was on the fence for it anyway

[violet timber]

Bruh why skip the ELC

The thing is legit the most fun tier 5 tank, just sit in a bush, snipe, spot, and sidehug heavies. Play like a maniac and you'll do well

[deep spear]

which tank should i get after SU-100, SU-152 or SU-100M1

[thorny smelt]

Try both. You don't need to install the 122 mm guns on SU-152 but you need to unlock those for the ISU-152. Upgrade the engine and tracks for better mobility. As for SU-100M1, it is rewarding once you get the SU-122-54 and Object 263.

[deep spear]

Oh okay thx

[thorny smelt]

SU-100M1 has weaker armor so it is best to play as sniper to support tank destroyer, as well the as the SU-101 and SU-122-54, but bear in mind that they have depressing gun depressions so most likely become a medium bully and support tank destroyer. I can even snipe in these tanks.

Unless it is WOT PC, the SU-100M1 and SU-101 armor are completely opposite than this game's version of those tanks.

[misty wing]

to keep in line with the bobject 😔

[thorny smelt]

I'm aiming for that line in PC. The armor is totally opposite than the Blitz version

[cunning hearth]

What your guys opinion on the VK.90 German heavy?

[thorny smelt]

Good on the hands of a good player. Lovely gun. Side-scraping is the best for German heavies in general.

[hard cedar]

vk is very solid

[cunning hearth]

Totally agree with u

[cunning hearth]

Very good gun

[green iris]

What’s the best tactics for the Swedish Leo? Cause I see it has no armour good pen and alr speed but idk how to use its full potential

[violet timber]

Peek, slam a shell into someone, hide

[green iris]

So basically treat it like a light tank with sucky viewing range?

[violet timber]

Treat it like a med with big alpha and meh armor

[surreal osprey]

Is the wz121 worth the grind?

[violet timber]

Yes

[scarlet kernel]

I have an idea, a hybrid nation tier X collector medium tank
Name "Titan GPT (General Purpose Tank)"

Basically add everything into this tank
Shape : i have no idea
Hull and turret 120mm front, 80mm side, 50mm rear

Options for a high caliber 150mm derp, fast firing single shot 100mm, autoreloader 100mm, and autoloader 100mm

Every consumables and provisions are available
(Sandbag, reticle, reactive armor, improved gunpowder, improved speedboost, etc)

For the shape i feel like centurion is the most plausible

[eternal canopy]

can you specify on the "add everything into this tank" part?

[boreal spruce]

su122 54 gun, on a RU 251 which has T62 armour

[real quarry]

What do yall think of the Leo PTA?

[eternal canopy]

that's an awfully specific criteria

[real quarry]

Personally I think it's a very solid Tier 9 Medium that needs a bit of Skill to do good in, and this is coming from someone who has mainly played Heavies&TDs for the past 4-ish years

[past crane]

dear lord you have no concept of balance

[eternal canopy]

this is WoTB, there's no such thing as B A L A N C

[odd cove]

nerf it into the ground like the anni

[past crane]

Haven’t played it, but from what I hear it’s decent. It got a DPM buff recently so it’s basically a more mobile Type 61 that trades armor and gun depression for better speed, pen, and gun handling. Type 61 only has better aim time everything else about the gun is golden

[real quarry]

Yeah, it's got pretty nice Maneuverability,pen and gun handling and also has kinda troll Armor aswell. Seriously I regularly get troll bounces off of it when I play,although it's usually Heavies or other Meds/Lights. Gun Depression is.....iffy, but definitely workable.

[strange thicket]

get leo 1 asap

[real quarry]

Am savoring the Leo PTA Grind, it's a Fun Tank

[odd cove]

it is

[strange thicket]

leo pta is just not as flexible, the gun depression hurts it much for something that has zero armor
it is nothing special really
leo 1 is the pinnacle of that line really
which is to be expected since it is the tier 10

[scarlet kernel]

Add all the super consumables and provision, gun types (autoloader, autoreloader, derp etc)

@past crane Who needs balance >:3

[eternal canopy]

imma go make a Lego tank with these specifications
ill post it in #blitz-art later

[drifting moon]

Buff leopard gun depresssion and nerf speed a TINY bit

[real quarry]

The Tier 5? Nah it needs that speed

[graceful iris]

so eh

im at tiger P. i can either grind maus or grind vk72.. ill get both of them eventually but curious which one i should get first. both seem good..

both lines look painful lol. vk45a and vk45b both suck from what i know. but mauschen also sucks from what i know.. suggestions?

just to note, no this is not my first t10

[hollow notch]

I'm a maus simp

[rotund wave]

Guys is the ISU-152 Mobility of Track rotation nerfed? Because last time, the Tracks was little fast but what happened to the tracks now? please buff the ISU-152 tracks rotation to 33.28

[hollow notch]

Oddly specific

[graceful iris]

^

[frail dagger]

the conway is more of a fv4005 then the fv4005

[violet timber]

Same

[past crane]

I went for the VK first but it really doesn’t matter. It’s all about your playstyle. If you’re going for the Maus you need to focus on angling your armor and hiding your cupola and lower plate. If you’re going for the VK 72 you can be a bit more aggressive. The VK 45A was buffed recently and it’s essentially a Tiger II that has a worse gun and slightly worse armor for much better mobility. The VKB is actually quite nice now, it can sidescrape and also play frontline because it’s lower plate is really strong. For the VK 72 just remember not to sidescrape because that’s not how it’s played.

Overall both are fine lines it’s really your personal preference. Also no tank “sucks” imho, it’s just a question of how much you can play it well/if you enjoy it.

[west rapids]

Maus line isn’t as painful as it looks

[golden bough]

at line is most painful and 183 gameplay is like 80% bad

[violet timber]

I wouldn’t say much better mobility lol

[thick trout]

25% better effective hp/t is a pretty big difference

[violet timber]

Only 3kph More top speed

[balmy compass]

When did Maus get a cupola

[graceful iris]

He was talking about vk100 and mauschen

[balmy compass]

Oh I see

[graceful iris]

Thanks for help. I may get vk first cus i feel like it'll have more special playstyle. Maus has kinda similar playstyle to e100 and e100 is already getting boring for me. It's just same stuff each battle. Angle, angle, angle, trade shot, angle, angle, angle and repeat

[balmy compass]

Its way easier to bounce shots in the Maus

[graceful iris]

Depends really. Both can bounce a lot. In maus you gotta master angling and in vk you gotta master wiggling

[hollow notch]

Maus is purely blocking focused. It doesn't have the ability to brute force through things frontally like the e100, which forces you to take a very different playstyle. The e100 wins matches by doing damage. The maus wins matches by keeping the enemies occupied.

There really aren't many tanks that play remotely like the maus.

[violet timber]

The Mauschen is the only other tank I can think of that plays similarly

[graceful iris]

E100 is basically maus who sacrificed some armor for bigger gun and a bit more speed

When i tested maus on friend's acc, most enemy shots penned. I was probably angling it incorrectly.. i angled it like i would angle e100. Apparently that doesn't work lol

[thick trout]

In this case power to weight is more important than top speed because the tiger struggles to reach its top speed without a significant hill, it's not a monumental difference between them but it's a noticeable one for sure

[hollow notch]

Mauschen isn't even close to the maus

I take that back.
If the mauschen is the only tier 9 on the team with a ton of tier 8 enemies, then it's kinda like a maus.
Otherwise it has a very different feel.

[violet timber]

Nothing is close to the Maus, but the Mauschen is the closest

[tacit gull]

Hey guys, Just returned after a 2 year hiatus, just saw that some of the tanks I've researched are completely wiped. Is this due to tree restructuring?

[solid gate]

Guys what is the best equipment for tiger 2

[hollow notch]

This is probably what most people recommend

This is what I would use if you have high level crew skills

[solid gate]

Danke

[ebon cedar]

But isn't that equipment for the T95E6?
or are you just doing that to save credits and because T95E6 has the same equipment as the Tiger 2?

[vestal badger]

What is the best equipmemt for su 100y? I just got the tank

[umbral hamlet]

everything left except for extra HP, toolbox and engine accelerator

[graceful iris]

this is what i use

you could replace stabilizer with refined gun but i just tend to snapshot often and play aggressive. if you're gonna play like a normal td and snipe, get refined gun

[vestal badger]

Ah okay thanks guys

[hollow notch]

I don't currently have the tiger in my garage so I just grabbed a random tank in my garage to show what I would use

[misty wing]

Neither grind is very painful, but I would honestly rather play the VK A and B than the vk100 and mauschen

[balmy compass]

Im doing the grind for the VK 72 right now and its not bad, although the grind for Maus was really hard for me at Mauchen, but then again I didnt get the top engine

[odd cove]

vk 72 with tungsten 👌

[radiant coral]

setup recommended ?

[glacial badge]

cal is a must

[safe cedar]

Cheiftan/T95 worth it?

[fast compass]

Not exactly a must since the pen is already so good. But vents are not worth most of the time

[lyric oriole]

Not really, it's a mediocre tank

[radiant coral]

i mean.. i do prefer faster and better mobility as well reload time when i’m in my autoloaders

[lyric oriole]

It skirts the line of heavy and medium which is really bad in this meta

Now if you want to play a medium type role it's fine but it requires a lot of attention to the map

The tank is mostly a support vehicle and can't fend things off too well itself

So it's a bit team dependent

But you can easily fight same tier meds with relatively little issue so long as they are not of the type that trade blows

[safe cedar]

Thats what I prefer

[lyric oriole]

If you're certain

[safe cedar]

Hows the mobility?

[lyric oriole]

Meh

It's pretty good for a heavy but noticably slower than mediums

[safe cedar]

Better then Somua or Emil 1951?

[lyric oriole]

The real ace up it's sleeve is the view range

Idk let me use tank compare real quick

Overall better, but again the true bread and butter for the tank is the View range and camo

It's a support and should be used for indirect combat at longer ranges than other heavies

[obsidian vapor]

Nerf miner

[safe cedar]

Would it be Similar to a worse Centurion RAAC?

[lyric oriole]

Easily worse

[civic iron]

RAAC is an e 50m on tier 8

[lyric oriole]

But it's an E 50 M with gun depression

[civic iron]

true. it also has good mass which means it rams most of the lights and some meds with great satisfaction

[safe cedar]

Well does cheiftan have a different playstyle from other support heavies? For example AMX m4 45, one of my favorites at T7.

[lyric oriole]

M4 45 can be used for direct combat, Chieftain should not until end game where you should share hit points

Chieftain doesn't offer any unique play style really aside from having a good spotting and sniping capabilities which as a heavy isn't very valuable

It trades vital stats for those only above average stats

If you want those just play Caern AX

You don't get the mobility but you get better armor and a better gun

[safe cedar]

Would T-54 mod 1 be better purchase?

[lyric oriole]

It would somehow be a worse purchase because at least Chieftan still fits the meta

T-54 Mod. 1 has the exact same issues that Chieftain has but gains nothing unique to it's class

It trades vital stats for defense and loses key mobility and penetration

Type 59 is a better purchase than T-54 Mod 1 cause it doesn't trade too much

[safe cedar]

Type 59 doesn't have the mod 1 handling though.

[lyric oriole]

Handling doesn't matter when your penetration is that garbage

[safe cedar]

It has like 5mm more pen though.

[lyric oriole]

While that's true that's not what I'm getting at

The mobility on type is enough to make up the lack of penetration

And it has enough armor to hold up in close ranges without going to excess

[plucky summit]

Chieftain has a comedically thick turret

And... well... a comedically large cupola...

[atomic forge]

how much gold does the 0-47 phoenix cost usually?

[umbral hamlet]

5.5k

but it got sold recently, so don't expect it to come back before this summer

[atomic forge]

Dang

[umbral hamlet]

it's a quite rare tank, but not even that good imo

[atomic forge]

I dont care if its good or not lol

[umbral hamlet]

oh you're a collector ok

[atomic forge]

Well not exactly, i just figured out what the tank was inspired from so i thought i would get it

[umbral hamlet]

understandable

[atomic forge]

:)

[mossy coral]

Any clue when the kpfpz70 was sold the last time?

[boreal spruce]

it was sold at black friday. but i think it was sold in jan?. immma check

[mossy coral]

Been waiting every week for it 😔

[boreal spruce]

its a decent tank. 560 alpha, has semi Hesh. looks good too.

[mossy coral]

Yeah i find myself only liking german and british tanks idk why so its a most wanted

[real quarry]

I recommend researching all 3 Tier 8s through the Tiger P, if you haven't ground to or through the JPanther 1 yet then going Tiger P->Ferdinand->Jagdtiger->Jageroo is not a terrible option. Ferdinand trades Maneuverability for better Armor(but not super good Armor) and more Gun Depression when compared to the JPanther 2. As for the Maus vs VK72 it depends on if you already have a Tier 10 Derp Gun(anything with normal 152mm Burst Damage equivalent or higher as in 640-1200+ potential burst damage, I count some AutoLoaders like the TVP T 50/51 and Foch 155 as Derp Guns due to their still high burst damage inspite of Gun Caliber/Alpha Dmg). If you want a Tier 10 Derpgun that has useful Armor go for VK72,E100,Jagdpanzer E100 or Foch 155. If you don't want a Tier 10 Derp Gun/need or want a Slow,fat Heavy with really good armor then go for the Maus.

[balmy compass]

But Fernies armor isn’t good at all, the lower and upper plate cant block anything and using prammo makes the gun cabin gray

[cursive sonnet]

Should I buy the Chimera?

[balmy compass]

A powerful tank with good maneuverability, fat alpha for a med, british reload time and good armor

Also has super consumables for some reason

[violet timber]

Don’t go through Ferdi, just use JP2. Ferdi is trash, JP 2 is actually rather good

[cursive sonnet]

I'ma buy Chimera now lol

Which 10 t10s should I grind?

[balmy compass]

What kind of tanks do you like

[cursive sonnet]

Heavies or meds with both ok armour and good mobility

[balmy compass]

E 50M is a great med with good armor, IS-7 also has great armor and decent speed

[cursive sonnet]

Good recommendation, I already have IS 7 and E 50, so the grind should be easier for the medium.

[odd cove]

yes e50m is pog

[cursive sonnet]

I've seen the memes, it seems fun to play

[odd cove]

especially when ramming

[cursive sonnet]

62 tons go brrrrrrrrr

[somber spire]

What are the best Tier 6, 7, and 8 TD’s. I have the SU100 and ISU 152

[tepid geyser]

Smasher

[balmy compass]

SU-100 SU-152 and ISU-152

Nashorn St.Emil and Rhm

[somber spire]

I also got the ISU 122S in a crate drop

[misty wing]

I got so used to blitz autoloaders having 3 shells that I keep forgetting I have a 4th when I play TVP lol

[plucky summit]

Bourrasque will enrage you

[misty wing]

I have that too

[plucky summit]

AT 7 won't <3

[misty wing]

lmao

[plucky summit]

Okay it might, but you didn't hear this from me

[misty wing]

Anyone know anything about the AT 1, 3, 4, 5, and 8-14

[finite scaffold]

Excuse me, someone happened to want to use the m6 to unlock the yho tamales but the experience doesn't detect them. please if someone knows tell me to solve it thanks 😁

[eternal canopy]

.....i'm sorry, what?

[finite scaffold]

On the american m6 tank from tir 6 does not give me combat experience. So I can't unlock it M Vll yho

[eternal canopy]

you can get combat experience from battles regardless of the outcome, unless you did nothing during the course of the battle (i.e went AFK, not penetrating a single shot before being killed)

[finite scaffold]

If I get combat experience from the m6 but it doesn't give me any free experience to unlock the vehicle, could it be a bug?

[plucky summit]

Can you get a screenshot of the situation?

[tawdry estuary]

any tips for td that can only move the turrets up and down? i just bought myself a su 100y recently and dont really know how to use these types of tanks

[coral heart]

positioning is the key. If your front is armored, you can go a bit frontline, absorbing a shot or two. But if you're paperthin(such in the case of SU-100Y, you're second line tank, supporting the heavies. You might camp for a moment or two, choosing a place where enemy heavies are likely to show up/spotted, and take your shot. After that, move, change position if possible. most of the paper non turret TD is advantage is either they have a good camo properties, or they deal stupid amount of damage(SU comes later)

P.S just my opinion but for SU-100Y emphasis on try not to get spotted as much as possible, and have map awareness to not expose your tank too much. you're a very big target of "HIT ME". You're not low profile, nor have a really good camo properties. You rely on dealing heavy enough damage to an enemy tank, forcing them to fear you, while you scoot away, changing location while loading your gun

Never brawl with it. Never reckless charge with it. Be patient.

[tawdry estuary]

thank you

[graceful iris]

jpanther 2 has better armor actually. lower part of hull is bad but top part of hull is more armored on jpanther. ferd's armor only works against low pen guns

and i have jpanther 1 researched, i could get ferd for like 70k less xp from it. ferd from tiger p is expensive af

already got e100, and planning to grind jageroo. foch maybe later because i want to focus on german and soviet tech tree for now. anyways thanks for suggestion

[real quarry]

Ohhh I didn't know the JPanther 2 has better Armor, thanks for correcting me.

Guess I'm a bit biased cus I love the Ferdinand/Elefants History and have played it a good amount but never played the JPanther 2....but yeah the JPanther 2 is more relevant in the current META although I wouldn't say the Ferdinand is a bad option, definitely not even close to how bad the T28 was before it got a few of those Buffs.

[graceful iris]

ye ferd isn't bad. gun depression is nice and armor can actually be really good against lights and some low pen meds. sadly it cant do much against high pen meds and heavies

[scarlet kernel]

Amx ELC bis with 90mm gun when

[umbral hamlet]

never beacuse it would be too broken

also low tiers rarely see even small balance changes, imagine a whole new gun

[distant nymph]

I even forgot it didn’t have the 90mm

[scarlet kernel]

Amx ELC bis with 90mm gun as a tier 6 or 7 collectible when

[umbral hamlet]

definetly not in the near future

[scarlet kernel]

But perhaps in the future

[umbral hamlet]

tbf think wg never even thought about it

[scarlet kernel]

Or perhaps they do

Also what if they add a mechanic where the amx elc bis can fully rotate the turret 360° if it's stationary

[thorny smelt]

Pz. IV with 10,5 cm gun as Pz. IV Gargoyle:

[coral heart]

if they ever(if, like, ever) get that it'll take like 10-12 sec of reload, probably only 50-60 AP pen and something alon 30-40 pen, and since they had already remove anything bigger than 75mm gun from T5 tech tree, I bet it'll be some kind of BP tank, or a new kind of collectible, perhaps like amx elc bis version of gargoyle, so perhaps something along AMX ELC BIS "Vindicator" or something with that line

[pallid barn]

just curious but what are yall favourite tanks to play in gravity (mine is the jageroo)

[sage vector]

is su-85 good??

[scarlet kernel]

I don't think it'll be 30-40 pen
Since the WT vers fires HEAT-FS
With around 300mm of pen

[acoustic galleon]

The premium or the tech tree?

[sage vector]

tech

[acoustic galleon]

From what I've seen its an avarage tank. No armor, decent gun, decent camo and decent moblity.

[sage vector]

what about the premium?

[acoustic galleon]

Its just meh.
Save up for a high tier one if you like TDs, like At-15a or Jagdtiger 8.8

[sage vector]

yessir, thanks really appreciate it.

[strange thicket]

Only the case mate
The hull is weaker
But it is much faster than the ferd

[graceful iris]

i know, i literally said that in my message lol

ferd has good armor against low pen guns. but if you meet a heavy or another td, you're fully gray

jpanther 2 meanwhile has weak hull even against low pen guns. but in exchange, "turret" armor is much better and can bounce even heavies and tds

[coral heart]

I think you confuse pen and damage. There's no way they give T5 a 300mm pen

[strange thicket]

Yeah the casemate
Jp2 >> ferd anyday though i agree

[coral heart]

need to clarify this a bit, 30-40 pen is for HE. They might give it a HEAT with prolly around 120 pen, but that's it

[kindred wren]

No, Ferdinand is better because it does the job of fire support better than the JPanther II, which is more of a glass cannon

[graceful iris]

yup. jpanther is better all round. only reason someone would prefer ferd is gun depression. armor only works against tanks like ltwt, prog, t44 and other low pen guns. still butter with gold

[strange thicket]

Disagree
Ferdinand is just easier to use
Jp does the job better and can actually relocate

[coral heart]

if you manage to hide its hull and only show it's upper armor, it's nigh invincible outside of something like ISU

[kindred wren]

The Ferdinand is actually more accurate and has better gun arc

[graceful iris]

how is it better fire support.. gun on jpanther is better and speed is amazing. if enemy pushes you can relocate easily

[strange thicket]

^

[blissful hamlet]

JPII is was simply awesome

[kindred wren]

Plus the low mobility literally prevents you from doing something you will regret

[coral heart]

problem with ferdinand is that any non-stock T8 TD and HT, and some MT could easily pen your flat profile front armor

[strange thicket]

That is one way to put it
It also discourages you from something you would greatly appreciate

[kindred wren]

The Ferdiand is more conventional while the JPanther II relies on awkward armour and positioning to be effective

[kindred wren]

You simply don‘t need to reposition across the whole flank in a fire support td

[coral heart]

also just saying, but jpanII did teach you how to further play with jagdtiger and finally jageroo, while ferdinand did less in regard to that

[graceful iris]

eh imo jpanther is better. dpm is better on it and accuracy is actually better than ferd. speed is also better and armor is also better if you hide your hull. ferd just has better depression and gun arc

[strange thicket]

So jp2 is better and gives more to skilled players
Got it

[kindred wren]

Simply roll with the heavies

[graceful iris]

if you roll with heavies you'll rarely bounce shots from enemy heavies

[coral heart]

ferd relies on it's more accurate gun to go snipe on second line. jpan relies on gentle hill slope to hide its hull

[graceful iris]

jp has better accuracy though.. dispersion is same but aiming time is better

[coral heart]

once I 1v1 jpanII on a jagdtiger 8.8cm, both of us need to use prammo to pen each other upper armor profile since both of us are on 'hulldown' posisiton

[kindred wren]

No, it‘s worse for being so difficult to use

[kindred wren]

Use your full gun arc and cover and you‘ll do just fine

[graceful iris]

he'd probably out dpm you

[strange thicket]

It depends on what stand point you are talking from

[kindred wren]

I highly disagree because the mobile gameplay is exactly what you won‘t see

[graceful iris]

eh maybe. ill probably research both eventually.. maybe ill like jpanther, maybe ill like ferd, who knows. ill keep you updated if you want lol

[coral heart]

if people play prebuff jpan I(when it still only have 80mm front armor), playing jpanII is actually easier

[coral heart]

not really, it's kinda stalemate since the loser is the one who push(and show their hull first)

[kindred wren]

You need like 65% winrate at tier eight kind of skill to be better than the average td performance (which is already bad)

[graceful iris]

ferd would actually teach jgtiger/jageroo playstyle better imo. more similarities to them

[kindred wren]

Anyways, I need to go, good bye

[graceful iris]

yeah but if you both stay in cover, he'd either out dpm you or you just use your alpha to peek a boo and maybe win

[coral heart]

no correlation whatsoever, I don't see the point why this is mentioned

[blissful osprey]

How does the Leopard 1's playstyle differ from the Vicker Light?

[coral heart]

yeah, but my initial point is: the upper armor of jpanII is what you need to use, since that's the strongest armor of jpanII

[coral heart]

leopard 1 is more prone to be slapped by HE and HESH compared to Vickers light

[graceful iris]

leo 1 and vickers light are really weird tanks ngl

leo 1 is classified as med but its more of a light. no armor, speed of a light (better than literally all t10 lights regarding effective hp. i think best mobility in t10) and amazing gun as well

vickers meanwhile is total opposite. classified as light but its more of a med. speed of light, turret armor of med and amazing gun. also you should really use that besh on vickers

[blissful osprey]

Ah, weird tank playstyles. My favorite. That being said, as the Leo isn't an LT it doesn't retain it's concealment bonus during movement, correct?

[graceful iris]

yup. its basically a light with camo of a med (and also gun of med)

in vickers you can play how you want. as med, as light.. in leo 1 you should just play as light as you got no armor

[blissful osprey]

I've heard it's sorta off-standish when it comes to engaging targets. What I mean by this is that you try to engage from the 2nd line.

[graceful iris]

you can clear up enemies good. you got best dpm for med/light in t10 and also speed. isolate targets and bully them lol

[blissful osprey]

hmm

What equipment do you mount on the Leo?

[graceful iris]

i'd say.. this

it isnt my equipment for leo 1, dont have leo 1 lol. but this is how i'd equip it

[hollow notch]

1st of all...
Rammer

[graceful iris]

you could get gun rammer instead and stabilizer but with rammer you'd struggle against heavies.. you'd struggle a lot

[hollow notch]

You don't have the pen to deal with heavies either way. The only thing the leo has is dpm. You give up that advantage for nothing.

[graceful iris]

eh kinda true but cali could help a lot in some scenarios. you shouldnt face heavies head on but sometimes you have to

[hollow notch]

sometimes

Opposed to boosting the always completely broken dpm

Also, you can permatrack poorly equipped tanks with a rammer

[graceful iris]

lol true but i run cali on most tanks with heat prammo. its mostly personal preference

[hollow notch]

Using gold= cutting into dpm.

You have a ton of mobility. Use it. Gold is barely even needed on a leo

[blissful osprey]

Do you run calibrated on the Sheridan as well?

[hollow notch]

The sherry is not a shell spammer. Its about making individual shots count. Cali all the way for sherry

[scarlet kernel]

Nope, the 90mm gun in warthunder (for reference) fired HEATFS with around 300mm of pen

[graceful iris]

alr

@blissful osprey dont have sheri and dont know much about what equipment you should run on it. BUT 90 HE pen.. you could really boost that with cali. plus it got like best heat pen on light i think.. so cali probably

[blissful osprey]

Ye, that's what I think. That being said I'm wondering iff I should drop super charge for it.

[hollow notch]

Rammer= increase dpm
Calibrated= increase pen
Supercharge= shell velocity

Rammer is what you drop for cali

[coral heart]

dude, AMX ELC BIS he told about is a tier 5 tanks where the normal AP pen is 110, and the prammo(APCR or HEAT) of 130-150. If you give for the same tier a tank with pen of 300, you just broke the whole balance of T5, far worse than what smasher and annihilator does

Also, WOTB isn't realistic, deal with it

And WOTB =/= Warthunder. Stop dreaming

[scarlet kernel]

Bruh why mad, i said for "reference" and i said on top as well that it doesn't need to stay on tier 5

It's just another silly "what if" Idea of mine, no need to be mad

[wise moth]

for what it's worth, the ELC bis on other WoT platforms has the 90mm gun with 120/150/45 pen on its AP/APCR/HE

Also, pen doesn't really break a tank. tier 5 and 6 tanks aren't really well armored to start with.

[misty wing]

The stats that become the most broken at high enough levels are armor and alpha, everything else can still retain relative balance

[scarlet kernel]

Better tank would be the KV-1S

[thorny smelt]

KV-1S ❤️

[scarlet kernel]

Better turret, gun (unless if you are using the sinful 107mm on kv-2), speed

[thorny smelt]

Also, it will lead to both IS-4 and IS-7 in this game

[scarlet kernel]

Have this aswell

[coral heart]

so what do you think its tier should be, for your 'reference' 300mm pen? since that kind of pen is only reserved for T9-10 guns

[coral heart]

oh, then try pen a heavy without prammo from the front. def can pen that with normal AP eh? isn't that's why pen matters?

[vital flax]

Used to have 175 on standard before they gutted it when changing light tank mm. It used to have t6-t8 mm

[timid peak]

I have a question about the line to t100 lt, how it has to be played?
From Mt-25 to t100 please

[balmy compass]

Mt-25 is machine gun hit and run from what I have seen

Ltg can bully taller tanks because its short

[violet timber]

MT-25: peek, clip, reposition, repeat.
LTTB: Just don’t stop moving, wiggle, circle basically any other tank you see
T-54 ltwt: Pretty much a med with more speed. Again, don’t stop moving, peek out quickly, slap someone, reposition, only show your turret.
Obj: Pretty much the same at the ltwt.
T-100LT: Play like an absolute lunatic, still only show your turret, use your dpm to melt anything that dares stand before you

[timid peak]

Thanks for tips

[past crane]

I would go LTTB over LTG too imho

[trail orchid]

So they nerfing th Vickers Cr and the American tier 9 light tank that's a shame and pretty strange thing to do imo

[rigid thunder]

no it's not lol

[radiant coral]

imo the T92E1 shall get the nerf because of it’s ridiculous gun

[blissful osprey]

Does it even deserve it? Could say the same thing for the E5's nerf.

[rigid thunder]

the vickers has been blatantly overperforming for a century, in what universe does it not deserve a nerf

[blissful osprey]

Not the Vickers. It can get the nerf. I'm fine with that.

[trail orchid]

Because it's one of my favourite tanks, that's good enough reason for me to be against it

[radiant coral]

don’t get me wrong.. slapping a light tank for more than 560 DMG, good mobility and actual troll armor is ridiculous

[valid gale]

T92 was incredibly stupid in 2020 as time passed they kept nerfing the wrong thing and it still would overperform it’s laughable they did nerf it again after so long but why bother T84 now has 100 more hit points than both

[rigid thunder]

and the fact that it's overpowered is more than enough reason to justify that a nerf is not strange

[blissful osprey]

The gun's accuracy is debatable.

[trail orchid]

Is it really overpowered though? When it's top tier in a battle yeah but not when it's bottom tier against tier 10,but then again it's only hit points that's getting changed so might not change the way they play that much

[blissful osprey]

Though, considering how the whole US tree has gone to sh!t recently due to all these stupid nerfs, it doesn't matter. Whether or not the T92 is negatively affected by this to a considerable degree won't change the fact it's still mediocre.

[rigid thunder]

yes, it is? Amazing gun, good speed, and armour some mediums would wish to have. The CR is so disgusting I don't play it very often

[radiant coral]

Debatable sure but that thing hits better than other actual derp guns

[trail orchid]

Is it that good it goes against your principles of fair play 😄

[valid gale]

Such as? Only ones I’m aware that were “nerfed” was E5 and it needed to be nerfed in fact their probably at their strongest point right now

[blissful osprey]

Can't it at least have that?

[radiant coral]

I don’t say it’s over powered, but it’s ridiculous

[rigid thunder]

more of because I hate them with a burning passion but yes

[blissful osprey]

The E5 did not need a nerf. It was ok back then. Balanced, I'd say. Most people, if you asked if you should go for the E5, would point at the IS-4 and tell you to take that.

[rigid thunder]

pretty sure the E5 was pretty busted, and the meta tank

[blissful osprey]

The only good thing that came out of the E5's nerf was an M48 buff, which was nice, but I still don't see the point in nerfing it.

[violet timber]

Let me peek you with a turret the size of your entire shell, with troll armor, shoot you with a tier 10 gun, and then run away with my light tank speed. In what world is this not overpowered?

[valid gale]

It did because being able to use super boost with ERA and the hp consumables resulted in a fat med which pretty much is what is7 is right now

[balmy compass]

First time I have seen people complain about the T92

[blissful osprey]

Could've removed the consumables. That's what I would've done.

[valid gale]

You are 2 years late

[violet timber]

T92 has been strong, it’s just the fact that Vickers Cr was introduced which was blatantly the strongest tier 9 med/light, and then the obj 84 was put in

[radiant coral]

First time ?

[trail orchid]

Well when you put it like that yeah ,I am only playing devils advocate when I been saying that though😄

[balmy compass]

I see

@radiant coral yeah first time, I have seen more people complain about other tanks like Yoh and 183 more

[violet timber]

The thing is the tier 9 light tanks have all been incredibly strong for the longest time, ignoring the joke that is the BC AP

[radiant coral]

yea.. i forgot that you haven’t been around here so long 🗿 srry

[trail orchid]

I like playing these strong light tanks you can have some real fun playing them,I haven't even played the tier 10 lights so far

[blissful osprey]

tbh Sheri is rather mediocre. The fact is, it doesn't meet the paper thin boxes on tracks you find in VIII. The acceleration is "meh." Other than that, it's ok. Vickers, meanwhile is rather good. It almost feels like a small medium when it comes to playstyle. It's really versatile.

[trail orchid]

Not played the tier 10 yet as I am still deciding which ones to buy first but the Vickers will be one of the first I go for ,the Sheri I ain't th fussed about probably got for the Russian light before that if I was to be totally honest

[violet timber]

Go for the T100 first, it's the best tier 10 light currently

[umbral hamlet]

that's debatable, especially for a new lt player the Vickers is a better choice, because it has better view range and especially a much more flexible gun, with an higher alpha and much better gun arc

[trail orchid]

I have enough credits and certificates to get 3/4 tier 10 tanks in the one go so was planning to get th Vickers the Russian one and a medium this week

[violet timber]

Well they've played tier 9 lights extensively, so I wouldn't call them a new lt player

[graceful iris]

sooo uh

i really want to improve my stats before its too late. i didnt care much about it but eh.. i'd rather fix it now when i still can. when i reach like 10k battles it'll be way harder

which t10 tank would be best for wr and avg dmg? i know answer, personal preference.. then, which t10 tank is similar to tiger 2? answer will probably be e50m but i want something else.. so lemme be more specific

which t10 heavy is similar to tiger 2?

[umbral hamlet]

well yeah but top tier lights are something different

[violet timber]

60TP or IS-7

[graceful iris]

IS-7 is pretty good, i like it but my stats in it suck

i could try grinding 60tp

[umbral hamlet]

there's nothing which is really a tigerII copy in tier10, the closest thing is probably the E100, but the playstyle involves a lot of turret angling and tradeshot, which is basically the opposite of the tigerII

Imo good tanks for damage farming are: 60TP, IS-7, T57, Leo1 (only if you're skilled though) and e50m

[graceful iris]

my IS-7 stats are average at best. probably below average

[umbral hamlet]

avarage damage in tier10 is around 2k, so you're above avarage

[graceful iris]

oh nice

[violet timber]

If you're looking for purely damage, T57 is unbeatable. If you're looking for damage and WR, the 60TP is probably the best option

[graceful iris]

i was thinking of grinding t57 but maybe focusing on specific nations first is better idea.. soviets and germans in my case

i could get 60tp. im still not very close, at t7 rn

[radiant coral]

Just get Yoh instead and clap em for 1k and retreat 🐒

[violet timber]

Yoh is kinda squishy

[radiant coral]

Always been
And juicy booty for my HE

[graceful iris]

ill grind 60tp next then

nah im not gonna touch americans for now. want to get at least 5-6 t10s from soviet/german tech tree before touching other nations.. but 60tp is exception since im fairly close to it and it doesnt need many modules

[violet timber]

T57 is overall the best damage farmer right now. It's got enough armor to where most people bounce, a gun that can get out damage quickly, but rather low mobility

[umbral hamlet]

t100 requires quite a lot of skill to be used properly, especially due to its poor gun arc

[graceful iris]

ill probably grind 60tp, is-4, e50m, 140 and t100 before grinding t57

[violet timber]

T57 with 30% more HP

[graceful iris]

why not?

though i can get 50b sooner than i would get t57. already at t7 for 50b line while for t57 i gotta start from t5

only reason i want 140 is because im really close to it. like, i could literally fxp it for like 250k fxp

and playstyle sounds nice too. brawler med..

[violet timber]

Not really, T57 armor works against most players and it has a gun that lets it get out 1,200 damage in 5 seconds. That leaves the enemy only 5 seconds to deal damage back to it, and with how troll some of the angles are and how much the 57 player will be moving, it can easily get out a whole clip while taking nothing in return

[graceful iris]

nah. you get a lot of bounces on hull. fought against it and those troll bounces are really annoying

[violet timber]

You just have to face the enemy and they have few options on where to shoot. Also for the same clip reload time you get 500 more alpha than the 2 shot yoh

[graceful iris]

but like

real question is, should i save fxp for scepter, type 71 or should i just use it rn to speed up my grinds? its a hard choice lol.. OR should i save it for christmas snow globes

[violet timber]

Type 71

[graceful iris]

yeah that's why i want it lol

but they'll definitely nerf it before releasing it. and it'll probably wont come to game anytime soon sadly

[violet timber]

Keep in mind that testers are the best players on their respective servers, are being given a tank that no one knows how to deal with yet, and can usually average that in their normal damage farming tanks

[graceful iris]

probably at 9.0.. and we dont know when to expect that

yeah they nerfed 60tp accuracy a lot but it still managed to become new meta

[violet timber]

Testing clans are literally some of the best clans on the server, the people who test are some of the best players on the server. How is what I said not true?

[graceful iris]

they choose clans based on how good they do in cws. and players are definitely good too so yeah..

[real quarry]

KV-2 is much worse when Stock but is waaayyyyy more fun due to the massive 152mm Gun which is capable of oneshotting every tier 5 and most tier 6s,2shotting any tier 5-7 and capable of oneshotting quite a few Tier 7s too. BUT it has unreliable Gun Accuracy and the Penetration is very low for Standard AP but the HE can do up to 1200dmg per shot with around 88mm or 85mm of Penetration IIRC(you can literally Penetrate any Tank in the Game with that at certain angles. Seriously it doesn't seem like a whole lot of Penetration but when you get used to the KV-2 it can pull off things only 1 other Tank is capable of[the Smasher], and the HE also does 100-400 Splash Damage consistently if it doesn't Penetrate but hits a Tank.)

KV-1S is definitely easier to use but the KV-2 is a better reccomendation for New Players do they can get a taste of what Derp Guns are like(oh btw every Derp Gun after Tier 6 is WAY better and easier to use, KV-2 is just the best option for New Players to try out High Caliber Guns.

Overall the KV-2 is one of the most beloved Tanks in the Game for good reason, it will forever be a good choice for New Players to try and see what kind of Vehicles they do or don't like.

Ultimately it's down to personal preference, both slap pretty hard but the KV-2 is more feared and respected....and also gets focus-fired way more often.

[violet timber]

Some of the best players on the server are good but not insane? Okay dude, sure

[valid gale]

Half right half wrong experienced players do get to test them but there has been many many examples of players somehow getting testing rights and almost blowing it for everybody

[violet timber]

Except that they literally are

[real quarry]

AMX ELC BIS with 300mm of Pen would be like a more movile PZ SFL IV C

[graceful iris]

testers arent chosen based on how good they do. its based on their clan. like, 40er could literally get in testing if he somehow got in good clan and convinced leader to pick him.. they choose good cw clans and ask leader for list of members that want test

[violet timber]

Thing is the leader won't pick him lol

[graceful iris]

true. but still its possible. i really doubt leader of pro clan would pick 40er but its definitely possible

[violet timber]

It's possible, but it doesn't happen

[valid gale]

He’s talking about all testers in general testing was almost restricted from one of the servers because some megamind took a S conq Iirc into a training room

[graceful iris]

yeah someone also took cent raac in training room when it was in test

guy was hosting chill rooms casually with his raac

[valid gale]

Also led to a lot of yoloing

[graceful iris]

tho honestly they shouldnt call it "open test" when they choose who gets in. examples of actual open tests are.. aim open tests

[coral heart]

but you don't have the toaster size and actually do have mobility and some kind of turret

[graceful iris]

here's the real toaster kekw

[real quarry]

Yeah so the Toaster Gun on something so small would be really OP, the Toaster has ridiculous Penetration and has very high Alpha Dmg for Tier 5.

[manic carbon]

This. A clan being involved in a competitive part of the game is just one way of getting testing privileges.
The most important thing for wargaming is trust and that can be reflected in other ways that don’t involve a clan being active in high-end tournaments.
As for testers themselves the vast majority are definitely above average players, but not every tester is a 60% player that is extremely good at the game. I’d say that a wider skill range of testers would only be more beneficial to wargaming anyway

[solid gate]

Tbh i really wish the panzer 4 in the game to have a sideskirt armor,i know it wont deflect shells but still it looks cool

[umbral hamlet]

that thing exists actually, and there are 2 tanks with the feature: pzIV Ankou SP and PzIV Gargoyle

first image is the gargoyle, second the SP

[graceful iris]

oof you were faster than me kekw

and this is kinda pz 4 just with different turret

and this is total opposite. first one is pz 4 with panther turret and this one is panther with pz 4 turret.. it's technically still pz 4 with sideskirt armor.. just different hull lmao

[past crane]

It’s a Panther with sideskirts lol
But a PzIV turret

[graceful iris]

yup

[solid gate]

The gargoyle is op

[solid gate]

Isnt that the cheaper version of the sideskirt armor

[hollow notch]

It's harder to make things with lots of holes. Its significantly lighter though

[solid gate]

Yea it looks kinda cool

[solid gate]

From the tech tree?

[umbral hamlet]

no, they are collectors

[solid gate]

Owh :(

[odd cove]

hetzer kame sp moment

[solid gate]

Will the gup event come back?

[umbral hamlet]

the tanks come back 1-2 times per year, usually for real currency

[fossil badger]

should i go for maus or e100 line?

[bitter bison]

E100

[fossil badger]

mmh

[odd cove]

^

[fossil badger]

why e100? better line right from t6?

[odd cove]

the playstyle remains almost the same

[fossil badger]

tnx for advice

[odd cove]

from the tiger 2 and up, youll pretty much play the same way

[solid gate]

Thanks for the info

[violet timber]

Till you get to the E100

[odd cove]

yea, kinda eats up heat rounds

[safe cedar]

Any hope of AMX 50 100 buff? Theres alot of tanks that need rebalancing before ut, but there any hope for it?

[graceful iris]

dont think it really needs a buff

[boreal spruce]

it dosnt need a buff, just rebalancing imo.

[safe cedar]

Such as? I want high hp/t ratio or just better ground resistance.

[loud field]

I get fk troll bounces on every 50B i encounter it is insane

[safe cedar]

What are you aiming at? Even at 350m its an easy pen.

[boreal spruce]

yep, it relies on its speed not its armour to play well.

[graceful iris]

thoughts on 50tp? gonna grind 60tp soon. i'd ask for 53tp too but well, i know its a good tank.. so only asking for 50tp

[boreal spruce]

play it like a strong USA heavy tank. brilliant turret. big gun, and has decent gun depp (

[safe cedar]

Especially reloacation and coordinated rushing.

[boreal spruce]

yep which is what the whole french nation is about (since they are autoloaders ofc)

[safe cedar]

Unfortunately the effective hp/t and traverse was hit pretty hard, It would be nice to see them restored, and for it to recieve either a gun depression or top speed buff.

[boreal spruce]

true, more gun depp, take away that usless armour, and give it a better hp/t.
likewise my pantera had a useless armour buff whihc made its hp/t suffer also.

[graceful iris]

well, i dont know how to play US heavy tank

highest tier in US tech tree i have is t6 lol. never really touched US that much

but ye i got what you mean, thanks for help

[safe cedar]

I feel like, 7° of gun dep would be balanced, 16.5 effective hp/t, 47-48kph top speed, and 50-52° of traverse would rebalance it fine. Somewhat modest buffs except for the hp/t.

[boreal spruce]

oh yup/ well try to always use the gun depp.
wiggle when reloading.
be the jack-of-all-trades heavy on your flank (so support other heavys, brawl, lead the charge, etc)
and use the special consumables wisely.

@safe cedar i was thinking more keep the topspeed the same.
buff its traverse on medium terrain to 45
and make the effective p/w ratio on medium terrain to 17
and remove the stupid armour that it has to ensure its balanced.

[safe cedar]

Then it would be worse off than how it started, I believe.

Traverse took a 7° nerf i think.

[boreal spruce]

waht update was it nerfed in again?

[safe cedar]

8.5

[graceful iris]

Alright thank you for tips. Though I've had to fight it quite a lot of times and.. armor seems extremely strong. Even with prammo on t10, you gotta aim at small weakspots or you cant pen. I assume it relies on armor a lot, correct?

[boreal spruce]

yep, the turret is really nice and the hull is also very nice. it can comfortably face tier 10 non-tds and shrug them off too!

[boreal spruce]

yes i see what you mean. 6 ton jump is nasty.

[blissful osprey]

Not even that hard. There’s a reason why most people tell newer players to grind the US hevs first. They’re good trainers. The tracks can eat a lot of shots. Good for learning side scraping. Pretty good turrets, but a few weaknesses here and there. Good for teaching hulldown and turret wiggling. Decent guns, as well.

[balmy compass]

But most higher tier American heavys have almost no armor behind the tracks

[graceful iris]

So 60tp will be enjoyable grind with good reward.. nice

[blissful osprey]

The tracks can eat a surprising amount of rounds. It essentially acts like the side armor for the vehicle.

[graceful iris]

I chose to go E100 line first. Then gave meds a shot and grinded t62 line. Then decided i wanted a better heavy and grinded IS-7. Didn't really touch americans much

[blissful osprey]

Well, it is really up to the player. But, the E5 line usually teaches the basics of pretty much every heavy tank line out there. That being said, with the E5's nerf, it probably isn't all too wise to grind the whole line anymore. The M103 is probably where you should stop, given the E5's less than desirable performance.

[radiant coral]

M103 fun to use against toxic unicum :v

[blissful osprey]

It really is.

[radiant coral]

I’m a honest man.

[graceful iris]

I'll probably grind e5 eventually, just not now. I want get tanks that are one of the best (if not the best) tanks in their class. Like 60tp being a meta heavy along with IS-7, t100 as meta light, e50m not really meta but still, playstyle sounds epic. Also really want STB but I don't think I'm ready for that painful line lmao. And of course, type 71

[radiant coral]

All tanks can be the best, if you play it how they are supposed to be played, at least in tier 10
That’s what i think, say and do stand for it

[balmy compass]

Sheri built to yolo 👍

[blissful osprey]

The E5 got a hard nerf. It used to be the premier heavium in the game. But the main problem was when WeeGee added special consumables for the E5's line. The playerbase, as per usual, complained about how the E5 could now just yolo with reactive armor and whatnot, so instead of removing the consumables, which would solve the problem, WeeGee nerfed the E5. Its turret traverse speed is now 19.44 degs/second, which, as you might know, not very good. The reload got bumped up by a single second, which really cut into DPM, especially if you're like me who mounts Calibrated Shells. It lost its purpose, and the M103 is just better.

[final vapor]

Is is-4 still good in the current meta? I'm grinding down that line rn, even with all the pain :')