vehicles-discussion

[misty wing]

mobility aside, I think the ho-ri is a better tank than the 268 and 113 g ft

it has the best dispersion values of all tier 10 TDs and it's not that close

[shell robin]

and yet people play it like a support tank

[strange thicket]

268 is not meant for sniping anyway

[misty wing]

seems like WG wants it to be, with its excellent accuracy and camo

[strange thicket]

268? excellent accuracy?

[shell robin]

I was thinking the ho ri was supposed to be a sniper, with dispersion and pen

[misty wing]

but it's kinda counterintuitive due to its long aim time and poor shell velocity

[strange thicket]

ho ri can def snipe
268 is not a sniper at all

[shell robin]

so why do people play Ho Ri as a british assault tank?

[hollow belfry]

Because on average people have 48% winrate and do not have a clue what they are doing.

[shell robin]

a winrate does not justify looking at the armor of a Ho Ri and going "yep, must be a really fast tortoise"

[misty wing]

@strange thicket believe it or not, 268 has excellent dispersion
although it doesn't feel like it from my experience

[hollow belfry]

Do you think people yoloing in the Ho-Ri care to look at the armor profile?

[strange thicket]

winrate can be an indicative of your understanding of game mechanics and how armor works

[strange thicket]

well with that mobility and "armor" i wouldn't snipe with it
i usually go second line support
or play around first line but don't get too aggressive
you can also go with mediums
i have no idea why would you snipe in a 268

[misty wing]

I think your interpretation of "sniping" is camping in a bush
which I guess is mostly accurate, but imo sniping can be a bit different

like sometimes both teams split and if you win your flank, you can "snipe" the other side on some maps

[strange thicket]

no, i don't think it is camping in a bush
i know how to effectively snipe
it just doesn't make sense to do it in a 268 to me

lol

[misty wing]

sometimes it's inevitable, like when the enemy only has one tank left and they're far away from you, and it's better to try to snipe them when they move than to chase them
but yeah the 268 doesn't usually snipe

[misty wing]

What's kinda funny is that as we were having that discussion, I played like 4 battles in a row against a 268 who kept yoloing and dying
I also once had a 268 on my team who had bad crew and no equipment or something, because I was outpacing him in my 113G FT lol

[strange thicket]

lmao

[slim phoenix]

french tanks are good, so are the chinese (except for their heavies, somewhat) while british lines are strong too. the 215b obviously isn’t great, but it still does get too much hate

if you think the ho-ri is “only” about the penetration, then i don’t think you’re using that tank to its fullest potential at all. also, the entire stb line’s rating is vastly underappreciated

[golden thorn]

let's hope this discussion doesn't turn out ho-ri ble

[slim phoenix]

they’re both amazing destinations imo, but in terms of the journey, it’s more rewarding to get to the latter since you can simultaneously arrive at the obj 140 and t100 lt too, while getting a significant head-start on the is7 and is4 as well

love it, as long as you’re used to not needing armour on your tank destroyers

[golden thorn]

Imagine rhm

[slim phoenix]

the TD line wasn’t the best but nor was it downright infuriating to play in

[vast cargo]

In that case Ussr destroyers is better . High damage + armour

[golden thorn]

Yes except for challenger branch

[slim phoenix]

i wouldn’t exactly call the 183 more competitive than fun 🧐

both of them need to get improved metrics, or else the vickers and t100 will overtake them permanently

[vast cargo]

I think su branch is way more better than chalanger branch

[slim phoenix]

exactly!

those are basically the sole slow tier 10 tank destroyers that i can think of, apart from the 183 and 113 gft

[golden thorn]

of course it is

su-122-54 literally has the highest dpm in the game

and not to mention su-152 branch

[solid gate]

If i Say "M4A3E8 is good" i'll get insulted?

[trail stone]

Maybe

[slim phoenix]

honestly, apart from like 1% of the tanks in this game, it’s pretty well-balanced overall. we can debate about how strong certain tanks are, but the player’s quality is far more important. and due to the regularly occurring “balance changes” all of these arguments will become moot well within a year, if not sooner, anyway

[solid gate]

Which tank are you talking about. I see that before me there was a discussion about SU-122-54

[slim phoenix]

ba dum ts

[slim phoenix]

the armour really isn’t that strong. imo the 4005 is just a really fun and undervalued line overall, but the soviets are more dependable and consistent, especially the 152/268 line

[vast cargo]

Ok thanks for ibformation

[solid gate]

I have a question, can i ask for a comparison?

[slim phoenix]

easy 8 tank, more like easily aced!

[solid gate]

About that?

[slim phoenix]

between which tanks?

[solid gate]

M4A3E8 and Firefly

I own both but idk which Is better

Even of now i am mainly grinding M4A3E8 line

[slim phoenix]

unfortunately i don’t know enough to help, perhaps someone else can answer your inquiry

[solid gate]

Thanks anyways

[exotic fog]

You can try BlitzHangar to compare features, and maybe some stats sites to see about damage, win-rate, ....

[grand cypress]

does anyone have the T30 or T34 with the 5k rating camo ? I'd like to see whether it's worth to grind 5k with it or not

[violet timber]

So just found this on Reddit, new Titan tank with the same mechanic as the H-N? Looks like a Soviet med that gets a pike nose hull when it gets below 50% Hp

[hard cedar]

I'm pretty sure that's just the illustration to explain the mechanic

[violet timber]

Why not just use the H-N itself then? They would already have an illustration like this for the H-N, and yet they made a new one for a tank they haven’t shown

[stray crystal]

Wtf, is IS8 really this bad? 3.9k dmg, 2 kills and M, lol

[violet timber]

IS-8 isn’t bad, the player base is bad

[stray crystal]

Then I'd say terrible, not just bad xD

[valid gale]

Worst part is that’s actually the best potential example of the mechanic I’ve seen so far

[violet timber]

It would be interesting to see a Soviet med turn into a Soviet heavy

[slim phoenix]

pretty sure that’s just the titan HN itself lol

[grand cypress]

🧐

[slim phoenix]

i mean that’s what you see when you click on the description for the HN and not that the tank itself has changed from the optional selection panel from each user’s main menu in their own garage, where you could find any other vehicle which is already undergoing serious but covert testing secretly

[misty wing]

The thing is, ALL the tier 10 TDs are pretty slow imo. I was just sharing a more optimistic approach to see the Ho-Ri's mobility, because the other guy seemed determined that WG hates japan

[slim phoenix]

i agree that the ho-ri is fast, and japanese tanks aren’t generally bad, if not outright strong machines. however there’s a lot of relatively speedy tank destroyers across this game. the grille is the best in its line, foch 155 can zoom around the map, while 4005 looks good, so does the 263 and even the 268 is no slouch, either

[misty wing]

Oh yeah I kinda forgot about the Foch and 263
People say the 268 is fast and relatively speaking it is, but being based on a heavy tank and all it's still fairly slow in the grand scheme of things

And I can't really call the grille fast with the boat-like turn rate that it has tbh

[lyric oriole]

263 and Foch might be maneuverable but they trade a lot for that mobility

[runic cloud]

The foch trades for being French

[frank plover]

Is pudel worth buying whilst 45% off costing 3k gold, it's all my gold I have left so is it worth it? React as indicator plz

[hard cedar]

No

[runic cloud]

no

[frank plover]

👍thx guys

[runic cloud]

while to pudel is good, it isnt worth it
its only good for dpm
it can sometimes bounce but only when angling ur front plate
it can get HE'd from the side

[frank plover]

👌

[violet timber]

Pudel? More like worse Bret Panther

[lyric oriole]

Pudel? More like better VK 30.02 M

[plucky summit]

We’re gonna pretend that’s an achievement

[shell robin]

I guess we are

[plucky summit]

👏👏👏

[misty wing]

I play the pudel to hear the sexy polish crew voices without having to deal with the 60TP sometimes, lol

[boreal spruce]

😳

[runic cloud]

🧐

[worldly vector]

Why does my waifu not show up ingame

[blissful igloo]

Oh boy, just imagine a 152MM HE Shell hiting that girl 💀

[shell robin]

Imagine that girl being part of the hitbox

[boreal spruce]

yes!!!

[shell robin]

I'm gonna lmao if they don't nerf the type 71 before release

[boreal spruce]

honestly, i would have liked to see this:

Tier 4-9 made up fictional Japanese HT line
And at tier ten the type 5 heavy.

it would be good, yes people would spam the type 5 a lot at the start but remember the type 5 has strong Flat armour so everyone would just load premo and pen it

That way it would be like the fv215b 183 line.

But WG wants to give us another huldown HT so smh

[shell robin]

There's plenty of historical japanese tanks to add, but WG won't add them because the best possible one is tier 6 at best. And people seem to care about tier 8-10 only for some odd reason

[boreal lake]

Because tier 8-10 is the most interesting

[shell robin]

Yea, i thought WoT focused mostly on ww2, not cold war

[boreal lake]

Idk if someone cares but kranvagn needs a buff in my opinion. Whats good about it? Accuracy, aiming time, gun depression, very good penetration and very strong turret. Whats bad? Everything else

[shell robin]

If tier 8 through 10 was interesting, bp tanks would be tier 8 or 10, not 6

[boreal spruce]

the good thing WG says it has is the access to Special consumable and provisions
Thats why WG nerfed it

[shell robin]

Yea, and T-28 has 3 turrets but they forgot to give it it's top gun

[boreal lake]

You mean the improved speed boost that was nerfed and it lasts 20 seconds or the aim calibration that it doesnt need very much because its accurate already?

[boreal spruce]

yep and sandbag armour

[shell robin]

That's WG for you. Total cheapskates

[boreal lake]

These consumables will not hold the tank in the meta forever

[boreal spruce]

but they are there and thats why WG nerfed the tank's traverse months ago etc

[boreal lake]

Oh yeah the nerf that it didnt need and now its turret is turning mega slowly.

[boreal spruce]

i dont run provsions on any of my tier 10 but if i did the kran would have 2700hp

but thats WG, they nerfed the fv215b because it has access to the same consumables and provsions

[shell robin]

A high hp pool doesn't cut it. Never had.

[boreal spruce]

it does though affect my aggressiveness and helps me win more, when i do ratings i use the +HP and i can guarantee you it makes a big difference

but 1.9k DPM is just sad

[shell robin]

Armor should be affecting aggressiveness, not hp

[boreal spruce]

this guy also got nerfed badly because it has super consumables,
(As you can tell i hate super consumables)

[shell robin]

Don't we all?

[boreal spruce]

lets not talk about the 60TP and ITS consumables....👀

[boreal lake]

I forgot about the sand bag armor but it doesnt make the tank very good anyway. It should get a buff to mobility and the gun. Top speed buff to 40 km. Gun depression to 10 deegres and reload time buff of the first shell or alternatively alpha damage buff to 420 because 400 damage at tier X isnt very good.

[shell robin]

Which one, the oil or the tungsten?

[boreal spruce]

all of it.......👀

[boreal lake]

Lets not talk how 60TP literally replaced E100

[shell robin]

I wished the oil and enhanced engine boost was available to the maus, just to see the thing catch up to T110E5s

[boreal spruce]

hee imagine

im gonna do some stat checking to see how the maus would be affected

[shell robin]

Oil, improved oil, red fuel, enhanced engine boost, engine accelerator, and i think that's pretty much it

[boreal spruce]

so if the maus had no provision and no equipment, using oil the p/w ratio would go from 8.4 to 9. (on hard terrain) and the speed would go from 25km to 29km.

the gun with a tungsten shell would go from 460dmg to 529dmg.

with all the equipment and provision it woul be
29km top speed
11hp/t on hard terrain
its slow yes but having an e100's top speed and the same hp/t as the 60TP would make it fun

[shell robin]

Was the engine boost taken into account?

[boreal spruce]

and if you add on the improved engine boost the tank would be:

35km with a p/w ratio of 15 (same as the amx m4 mle 54)

[shell robin]

We turned a super heavy into a super heavium

[boreal spruce]

imagine a maus going 35km with the same acceleration as the amx m4 54..... yolo time

all the maus needs is the gear oil from the 60tp and the engine boost from the kran/t110E5/fv215b to make it yolo

[shell robin]

All we need is a battering ram attachment.

[boreal spruce]

raumpanzer noises 🐏

[shell robin]

I said a battering ram, not a bulldozer

[boreal spruce]

oh yes...🤔

[shell robin]

It's always fun putting speed builds on super heavies or assault tanks

What would be scary in blitz are field modifications.

[boreal spruce]

oh yes, i love them in PC,

i modded my obj279 and that is a beast. (speed related ofc)

[shell robin]

I used tanks.gg to test a survivability build on the type 5 heavy and the tracks had 1000 hp with a 4 second repair time.

[boreal spruce]

lol!!! if only on blitz...😥

[shell robin]

Gave it like 3500 hp too iirc

Field mods are mental.

[boreal spruce]

my maus in PC has the full spalliner and hp mod. its my pride and joy

[shell robin]

Imagine what field mods blitz exclusive tanks would've had.

[boreal spruce]

just imagine😎

[shell robin]

Ho ri with oil red fuel and enhanced engine boost

[violet timber]

It does for the E100

[boreal spruce]

RU 251 with gear oil is 93km. with the improved engine boost it could go 107km.....

[shell robin]

que the Gas! Gas! Gas! memes

[balmy compass]

wotb nascar event

[boreal spruce]

e50m with the gear oil and engine boost could go 80km...

whereas leopard 1 goes 87km

amx50b at 67km and e100 at 40km

🚤

[blissful geyser]

Guys what are the best tech tree HEAVY TANKS with LASER ACCURATE GUNS ???

[runic cloud]

No need to spam every channel

[hard cedar]

the m6 yoh with the 3 shot 👍

[slim phoenix]

it matters more often than most people think it does

[shell robin]

Well I'm not saying it's useless, but what's better to have, little hp but good armor or bad armor and high hp?

[balmy compass]

Higher hp just means you should take a few more hits for your team

[shell robin]

wouldn't a good armor profile mean the same?

[slim phoenix]

@shell robin i’m saying that people generally overlook differences in HP when they are really critical to deciding certain matchups or sometimes even entire battles. even a difference of 50 can turn the tide of things one way or the other, more often than all of us realize

[boreal spruce]

laughs in Maus with HP and Armour

[balmy compass]

I can understand that

[slim phoenix]

it’s harder to master, and remember where your weak spots are on, for each tank that you own

[balmy compass]

Its not a great thing to fight a heavy in a med with both max hp, but that also depends on the tanks and the users skill

[slim phoenix]

but terrible firepower, too?

[balmy compass]

Its firepower is decent

[shell robin]

laughs in Ho-Ri railgun

@slim phoenix ok, let me put it this way. Why is the IS-7 considered one of the best heavies in tier 10, while the Maus is powercrept at best?

[boreal spruce]

yep, the pen is the worst. and the gun handling on the move is terrible. but it isnt too bad..

[balmy compass]

I mean aren’t all german heavies gun handling bad on the move

[slim phoenix]

is it just me or has it become simpler to absolutely run circles around heavier tanks in your lights these days especially when they ignore you to focus on juicier, slower, easier-to-hit, and supposedly “more dangerous” targets?

[boreal spruce]

yep

[balmy compass]

The heavy may realise he cant hit the light so he either goes to fight someone else before he dies or go to his teammates

[shell robin]

probably because very few lights are a high priority target, compared to say, "that one heavy" or "that one td".

[boreal spruce]

cries in deathstar 183

[slim phoenix]

i just dealt 3k damage zooming across fall’s creek in a stocked obj 84 light tank of the ninth tier, out of the reach of opponents, and still ended with 1520 hp or so

[shell robin]

i remember doing top dmg in the Jade despite not taking a single hit

[balmy compass]

People underestimate lights, unless its a derpy gun like sheri, they would rather shoot some annoying tds that gets spotted instead

[slim phoenix]

nvm it’s called false creek right guys lol 😏

[slim phoenix]

vickers cruiser 😎 moment

[shell robin]

or a 0 reload demon like the Bulldog

[balmy compass]

T49 ambushes you from behind!

[shell robin]

certified "Je Suis Monté" moment

[slim phoenix]

leopard/cromwell/t71 crossover when

[shell robin]

when we get japanese super heavies

[slim phoenix]

monté

[slim phoenix]

derpy 😍 derp!

[shell robin]

I can't type accents on this bloody craptop

[boreal spruce]

touché

[slim phoenix]

||i’m pretty sure it’s “morte”||

[shell robin]

laugh all you want, mobile user. at least my games don't have ads

[slim phoenix]

huh, what did you mean to say?

i’m going to get a phone just so that i can watch videos for gold on wotb 💀

[boreal spruce]

lol im actually on PC, cant operate mobile for the love of god!

[shell robin]

then there's other mobile games that force you to watch ads and give you nothing for it. WoTB is that rare mobile game that's nice with the ads

[slim phoenix]

🥺 lucky you 😔

[balmy compass]

Yeah wotb is probably the only game where I would want to watch ads

[boreal spruce]

i dont know how they(mobile players) do it! how???

[slim phoenix]

don’t ask me!

[shell robin]

I can think of a few others, but they're either inferior to WoTB or give a measly reward.

[slim phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[shell robin]

what did i mean by "Je Suis Monté"?

[slim phoenix]

oui monsieur

[shell robin]

it's a reference from another game that has nothing to do with WoTB, let alone tanks in general

[slim phoenix]

🧐

[slim phoenix]

because when the day finally comes for me to sit or lie upon my deathbed, my life’s biggest regret will become not having gotten the chance to feel the wind blowing through my own hair, driven as a commander and experienced the role in active combat or tank’s warfare of the panther m10

[misty wing]

I played the panther m10 once and actually did pretty well in it lol

[slim phoenix]

i’m sure you’d perform superbly in any tank 🥺

[misty wing]

it's more of the "first time playing a tank" = matched up against braindead low tier players, lol

with the exception of the IS-7, my stats are usually very good for the first 20 battles or so and then drop hard

[balmy compass]

The rate of fire for that tank is awesome but the armor kinda sucks unless angled I guess

[slim phoenix]

i always do great in my first battle in new tanks for some reason, when i’ve got no crew skills trained, stocking modules mounted, locked equipment slots, no consumables or provisions! i think without any familiarity or habits to hold me back, my curiosity lends itself quite excellently to bravery and creativity, i might observe

[misty wing]

yeah same

[slim phoenix]

actually nvm i think i was just cherry-picking certain tanks instead, my WR typically won’t exceed 20% for the first 50 battles or so

[misty wing]

20% winrate 💀

[slim phoenix]

we’re talking about the tortoise here, right?

[balmy compass]

Panther M10?

[slim phoenix]

i’ve had <17% after well over 100+ battles lol it’s nothing new to me rip, though my worst losing streaks have lasted for even longer than my lowest-tiered tanks did

[slim phoenix]

good, because you just described the exact opposite of the is7 haha

[balmy compass]

xd

[slim phoenix]

🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺

[scarlet kernel]

so i rebought the conqueror again and well...

the stats doesn't look great but it's good to play with, the gun feels great, the mobility is decent, pretty agile for heavy tanks

i would say it's like a coin flip. It's either good or bad. Nothing in beetween

[slim phoenix]

tfw you literally bothered to calculate how likely it was for someone to receive a tank from that crate in their lifetimes if they opened one every single day for the rest of their years’ span, as long as they would’ve lived

[past aspen]

I accidentally sold the vk 90 and didn't no i could get it back until now but wg wont respond

😟

[scarlet kernel]

the ad crate M10?

honestly since i watch the ads for gold, i'll be more irritated getting stuff other than gold from it

[scarlet kernel]

just wait, VRT takes some time

[past aspen]

I was just looking at the stats to and how much u could sell it for then i accidentally pressed sell instead of cancel

I dont have the gold cause i cant pay for the gold eather😟

[scarlet kernel]

you can get it back for exactly how much you sold it for

[past aspen]

I had used it cause nobody told me u could get them back using a ticket until i used the gold already

[scarlet kernel]

how much is your gold now?

[past aspen]

i think only 120

[slim phoenix]

you can still get just as much gold as before. the crates are merely accessory

[past aspen]

Aya so confusing

[scarlet kernel]

you can watch some ads, 1.5k for each month if you do all 5.
also what have you been spending around 7.5k gold for?

@slim phoenix but extra gold is always good

[past aspen]

Well ya know when u want a tank and dont no its bad then u also sell that tank to and all your left with is your stupidity?

[slim phoenix]

of course i wish you could earn more than 50 gold every day but i’m just glad that i don’t have to pay using real money if i‘d like to get any, already

[past aspen]

Well thats what i did

[scarlet kernel]

F for ya, you should get some info on a prem tank before buying it next time

[slim phoenix]

be more careful when selling tanks next time. check them out before buying them. and now you know about what the VRT does

[past aspen]

I thought i did also it was 5 AM in the morning

So i had no brain

[golden thorn]

t67 trash

[past aspen]

Its paper and light also its weird i've played against them and there ez to take out

[misty wing]

so many people come here after selling tanks and regretting it lol

[frank plover]

I've done it afew times... but they were either low tier prams or high tier tech trees, so its regret but not ☠ worthy lol

[obsidian mirage]

Bruhh...with conqueror i want ride my super FV 215B

[molten otter]

stock t29 what should i research first

[obsidian mirage]

Maybe the engine, because the stock engine is bad

[hollow belfry]

gun all the way, slap a super engine boost on

you won’t be doing much with the 90mm

[vast cove]

should i go for yohs or t29?

[misty wing]

Yohs, the tier 7 is bad compared to the t29 but the rest of the line is a lot better

[obsidian mirage]

But the T 32 line is more mobile than yoh

[nimble topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_BpngU_hGQ

new premium tank i guess

[violet timber]

Yup, finally released

[misty wing]

Hope the 268 4 is next ;-;

[violet timber]

Hope 268/4 is scrapped ;-;

[balmy compass]

Ram :trol:

Try to play hull down the turret is very strong

[nimble topaz]

😂

[hasty ridge]

crates

[umbral hamlet]

it's worse than basically every tier8 medium in terms of dpm, gun handling and armor, only things which are decent on this tank are the camo values and the mobility (but still nothing spectacular)

[molten otter]

i already have it from the yoh the 105mm

[charred vigil]

<@&481447501690568709>

There has been a lot more scams than usual lately

[shell robin]

two at once is a rare occasion

[misty wing]

yo japanese heavy enjoyer muted?

[violet timber]

Sí

[hard cedar]

oops!

[violet timber]

Go to support and send in a vrt ticket

[misty wing]

what's the amount you have to pay to recover a tank

[manic steppe]

10% more then what you sold it for

[misty wing]

so whether it's credits or gold depends on the tank?

[manic steppe]

Like if you want 112 Glacial back it would cost 1,650,000 instead of 1.5 million

[plucky summit]

For credits it's 110% sale price, it's 1 to 1 for gold

[slim phoenix]

i believe all collectible tanks sell for gold, and premium tanks for credits, though certain exceptions may exist of which i remain unaware. and what @plucky summit said was correct

[scarlet kernel]

You know i don't like playing light tanks when 4 of my crew skill is still level 5

[copper swan]

upgrade them

[ornate oak]

Hello guys,what about Chinese tanks,medium and heavy,wz 121 and wz 113?

Are they good? They seems fast and nice dpm...

[copper swan]

they have strong turrets but weak hulls
relatively weak ammoracks and compact modules and crew means constant using multi purpose consumable and repair kits
basically Soviet tanks but copy pasted though some have bigger guns and longer hulls thus requiring quite different playstyle from soviet tanks

[ornate oak]

Okay thank you

[scarlet kernel]

KV-2 with the 107mm zis-6 gun

[obsidian mirage]

Dam... Maybe this tank Will be meta

[amber lagoon]

@low flax

[solid gate]

268 4 is cringe

[misty wing]

I don't care, it looks cool so I'm gonna buy it

[civic iron]

<@&481447501690568709> nitor

[thorny smelt]

He should've chosen Ho-Ri or FV215 183 for high pen AP pen guns

[hard cedar]

im pretty sure the point was to choose a gun without super high ap pen

[violet timber]

I’m not saying the cupola is too angled, but the cupola is too angled

[hollow notch]

So I'm comparing this to the t110e5. Is the e5 a tier 9?

[balmy compass]

Tier 10

[violet timber]

Master_of_the_larks is joking.

[balmy compass]

Im sorry I couldn’t find the sarcasm 😔

[violet timber]

Also I’m not so much worried about the E5 as I am the poor 215b, it’s looking more and more like a tier 8 heavy every day

[hollow notch]

But seriously though
The armor profile is better or equal on the type.
The dpm is significantly better on the type
The hp pool (lol without sandbag credit sink) is better
The to speeds look amazing on the type without having to use the superspeed crutch.
All this at a cost of some accuracy (not all that much), some pen (again very little), and a small bit of acceleration.

What kind of small and smooth brain balancing is weegee trying to do

"This tank was too meta, let's nerf it and then replace it with something better"
~weegee

[balmy compass]

Type 71 to replace Maus

[hard cedar]

its nothing like maus

[balmy compass]

All I have seen of it is that it has alot of armor

[hollow notch]

It has plenty of armor against low pen guns, similar to the tiger 2.
Unlike the tiger 2 it has mobility, gun depression, and a fairly strong turret

[balmy compass]

How much gun depression

[violet timber]

Also the cupola is angled

[violet timber]

9 degrees, because 8 was too little but 10 was too much

[kindred wren]

WG logic

[valid gale]

In the current test state it is the LFP is immune to t-100 on flat ground and on a downwards angle both plates are busted

This was a vk 90 looking at it

[violet timber]

Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you the Obj. 996! This is the most balanced Soviet heavy ever created.

The Obj. 996 was created as a test bed for the most advanced Soviet rangefinder to date, hence why the turret looks so odd. To reflect this, it has been given the most accurate gun on a Soviet heavy. It is also a 125mm, unlike the normal 122mm. With good penetration, good damage, and good accuracy, what could possibly go wrong? The reload. It has a very long reload, giving it rather poor dpm for a tier 10 heavy. However, with how accurate this tank is, bouncing will be an oddity.

Now lets talk about the armor. The hull may look like an IS-7, but it is different. It has a lot more angles to it, leading to more ricochets. There's also the turret, which is so oddly shaped that it can be hard to tell where to shoot. With the full 6 degrees of gun depression, the 996 is nigh invincible on a hill.

On to the mobility, where it just gets better. 50 kph top speed and a p/w ratio of 26.4, there is no heavy that can outrun this behemoth. It can also catch up to some medium tanks as well!

Overall, this is 100% the most balanced Soviet heavy tank ever created!

[balmy compass]

•_•

[violet timber]

I was messing around with the new Sprocket update and the freeform pike nose hull

[balmy compass]

Cupolas look like T95 cupolas

[violet timber]

It was either that or Tiger cupolas

[blissful igloo]

STB-1 and KpfPz 70 have hydropneumatic suspension🤨

May in the future WG add this.

[violet timber]

They’ve already said no to hydro pneumatic suspension

[blissful igloo]

:(

[hard cedar]

hehehaha

[radiant coral]

And the source to it ?

[violet timber]

I believe it's somewhere in #devs-answers, but I don't feel like looking for it right now

[radiant coral]

I will look that up

[radiant coral]

Well… i’ve been all the way back to 2018 and the only thing that i’ve found is this from
February 17, 2021

[radiant coral]

Well also that
I forgor

I mean.. it wasn’t a no - i still have hope for it

[kindred wren]

This is about as ‚no‘ as it gets without actually saying no

[radiant coral]

:’( fine

[pastel orbit]

Question

Is the is-3 bear a complete separate tank to the is-3

[plucky summit]

No, IS-3 Bear is the legendary camouflage variant to the IS-3

[pastel orbit]

Wasn't the is-3 bear it's own tank at one point

[plucky summit]

I doubt it

[pastel orbit]

I.remebered a is 3 with a single high damage gub

[plucky summit]

400 is high damage for tier 8 🤷‍♂️

[pastel orbit]

But it wasn't tech tree

[plucky summit]

Well it’s not here anymore, unless you’re thinking of IS-5 or Obj. 252U

[pastel orbit]

No it wasn't either of those

[plucky summit]

Can’t tell ya

I’d need more details

[pastel orbit]

Basically I remembered a is-3 tank with a 610 Damage gun idk if it was a thing or not

[plucky summit]

Yeahno

[wintry orchid]

You got torched or ammoracked most probably

[plucky summit]

Maybe a nice high roll on HE

[misty wing]

Guys he's obviously thinking of the IS-3-II with a dual 100mm gun /s

[plucky summit]

The IS-3 Bruh™

[slim phoenix]

dynamic suspension already got added into this game, and it is not the same thing as hydraulic suspension

[thorny smelt]

Is that a tier 9 heavy tank in the ST-II line?

[misty wing]

yeah lol

[thorny smelt]

I don't know why there's a IS-3-II if that's the only pike-nose tank in its line. I can't even rely on IS-3's hull.

[misty wing]

it's just a natural progression of the IS tanks, the 2 to the 3 and the ST-I and II were prototypes of the IS-4

[thorny smelt]

Weird because ST-II line branches out from KV-3 which belongs to a line of assault heavy tanks.

And including an IS-3-II in this line makes you play more of a support heavy tank. Oh WeeGee...

[obsidian mirage]

I hope WG buff fv215B penetration from 250mm stock to 260-270mm penetration

[scarlet kernel]

isn't it already 259mm stock?

[obsidian mirage]

Yes i think buff a little bit more better so the penetration like 155mm T 30

[misty wing]

Why, it's a heavy tank

[obsidian mirage]

Yes Fv215B is HT but become really bad ,in past,she have good dpm so dan balance with his 400 damage gun ,but after nerf that suck.... She cannot side scraping, easy to get fire,speed more slower than conqueror,so conqueror is more better than FV215B on mobility

[misty wing]

But why do you want it to have TD pen, and comparable to the t30 of all things

you're avoiding the question

[obsidian mirage]

The pen i think is bad i Mean ,like not have different with conqueror

[misty wing]

it's on par with other tier 10 heavies

[thorny smelt]

Use Calibrated Shells. Periodt.

[fast compass]

That'll just kill the already dead dpm. But yeah if you find the pen lacking, only thing you can do is CS.

[thorny smelt]

See for yourself with some selected heavies

Here's another one

[vernal sail]

No one should have to suffer what is the vk90

[misty wing]

what

[umbral hamlet]

vk90 is probably the best tier10 heavy, what you're talking about?

[misty wing]

concept 1b: am I a joke to you?

[slim phoenix]

50b and is7 are the best heavies 😈

[misty wing]

absolutely not

[strange thicket]

to be fair vk 90 is an absolute unit
and unlike the concept 1b it can do other things than just hulldown

[umbral hamlet]

biggest Christmas scam
it got overhyped af, and got nerfed literally days before release

[misty wing]

the nerf was just 20 alpha bruh

its overpoweredness is a little overexaggerated, but I definitely think it's better than the vk 90 which is incredibly overhyped

[real quarry]

anyone know when the Japanese Heavies will release?

[umbral hamlet]

it's the exact opposite, concept is overhyped (the only good things about it are the turret, which is paper anyway against heat if u aren't looking straight at the enemys and the mobility, which isn't really effective without the p/w ratio), while vk90 deserves its fame

[vernal sail]

Tbh I thought the super conquerer was better than the vk90

[umbral hamlet]

super conq has garbage side armor, and it doesn't have any brawling capability

[vernal sail]

My main nitpick is the turret being so far back

[misty wing]

they're both overhyped, just like every other good tank. And while your criticisms remain true, the concept also has excellent gun handling and pretty good DPM to boot, whereas I'm not a huge fan of the vk 90's gun

concept 1b is very prone to being tunneled though, I will say that much

[slim phoenix]

no but it will probably take at least three months, if wargaming’s word is to be believed

[umbral hamlet]

9.0 probably (2 months)

[vernal sail]

Most Brit tanks armor aren’t that good but the conqs turret isn’t ten miles in the back of the tank like the 90

[umbral hamlet]

vk90 has literally stronger turret than sc

[misty wing]

nah, the cheeks can be penned by most heavies' pramo whereas the super conq's is extremely tricky due to the shields

[vernal sail]

But the turret being so far back means that when you peak corners you’re exposing more than there should

[umbral hamlet]

u need 350-60 heat pen to reliably go through vk90 cheecks, and that's without angling or wiggling

super conq cupola can be penned by anything with more than 240mm of pen

[vernal sail]

Also 90s sides are paper also

[misty wing]

at least you can reliably go through it at all

[umbral hamlet]

pffft what? it's one of the best sidescrapers in the game

[misty wing]

and idk if you're an aim god or something but the sconq cupola is extremely hard to hit for me

[vernal sail]

At an angle

[strange thicket]

as it is extremely hard to hit the miniscule cheeks of a vk90 :P

[vernal sail]

I had no trouble

[umbral hamlet]

every tank has weak sides "at an angle"

[umbral hamlet]

yeah show me your super conq winning a brawl with a full hp vk90

[vernal sail]

I sold it

[umbral hamlet]

what the f😂

[vernal sail]

I’m trying every tank in the game

[misty wing]

waaaay easier than the sconq's cupola ngl

[vernal sail]

Also while I’m still here I might as well gripe about the mauschen

[misty wing]

and cupolas can be hidden/made smaller with gun depression, the VK's cheeks will stay more or less the same due to its curvature

[strange thicket]

eh i guess that is fair
it is still no easy hit though

also vk 90 does not have weak sides at all
it is literally one of the best sidescrapers in the game, what are you talking about ? @vernal sail

[vernal sail]

I think the lower front plate is too thin and too big for its own good I mean it’s the little brother to the (almost) invincible maus

[vernal sail]

I’ve been hit and killed in the sides so many times I’ve lost count

[strange thicket]

because you either over angle or you literally poke out with your sides perpendicular to their guns

[rigid thunder]

its easy to die when getting flanked in the vk90 because its sides are so gigantic, but it's your job to not get flanked

[strange thicket]

you know what else has gigantic sides that are easy pen when flanked? the maus
does that also have bad sides too?

[vernal sail]

The front armor is great in the front but thin sides, turret in the back don’t make well when you try to peak snipe

[rigid thunder]

what, that makes the tank perfect for sidescraping? Also the sides aren't thin, 120 flat lower and 140 angled upper side armour is amazing, and with the turret being so far back, you can pretty much sidescrape with your entire sides at an autobounce angle with huge margin of error

[strange thicket]

and i mean, the vk90 got some nice hull turn rate
@vernal sail you are playing the tank wrong lmao
the sides aren't thin at all
you don't play the vk 90 with the frontal armor, that is the vk72

[vernal sail]

:l no then why is the armor more thick in the front than any other place on the tank

[strange thicket]

you play the 90 for a perfect side scraper with good hull turn rate and a nice gun
that is also coupled with rear turret placement which is icing on the cake
you can also hulldown too if you can set it up

[rigid thunder]

what let me ask you, do you know what sidescraping is?

[vernal sail]

Yes

[rigid thunder]

then tell me why is the vk90 bad for it?

[vernal sail]

I’m talking about turning corners like 90 degree corners

[rigid thunder]

why on earth would you do that in a vk 90

[strange thicket]

you are looking at nominal values, look at the effective armor instead

[vernal sail]

Bc that’s how some of the maps are made

[umbral hamlet]

why would u ever do that with any tank in the first place?

[rigid thunder]

driving out flat sideways while trying to peek a corner in a vk90 is the literal typical 40%er play

[umbral hamlet]

no lol, just sidescrape at every corner if u need to slowly advance

[rigid thunder]

just turn your tank, and sidescrape off the corner

[vernal sail]

1 sec lemme draw it out

[misty wing]

vk 72 > vk 90 no cap
it has the better legendary camo and better gun sound

[rigid thunder]

vk 72 legendary camo looks like doo doo, so vk 90 > vk 72 sorry man

[misty wing]

then you have bad taste in skins, like you do in usernames

[rigid thunder]

wow toxic bro

[misty wing]

sorry I can't let anyone trash talk my babe the vk72 bro

[vernal sail]

Does that explain it

[misty wing]

yes, you're never supposed to drive out like that
doesn't even matter what tank really

[rigid thunder]

sadly for you I will trash talk it

and @vernal sail that's a terrible play

[vernal sail]

What if it’s an unspotted tank behind that corner and the 90 doesn’t know

[misty wing]

proxy spotting exists

[vernal sail]

Okay then

All I’m saying is that my opinion is that I don’t like the 90 that much and I didn’t think it was my cup of tea

[misty wing]

I don't like it either, but it's still a good tank

[thorny smelt]

You need some skill for rear-turreted heavies

[real quarry]

not for all of them.. coughcough VK90

[misty wing]

it does require skill tbh

[umbral hamlet]

why would you ever peek like this

[vernal sail]

Bc game

[umbral hamlet]

just sidescrape around that corner

[misty wing]

Huh

Jokes aside I find it kinda adorable how "rotkopf" means redhead, and the VK 72 camo is red on the turret

Vk72 is underrated

[slim phoenix]

tfw its armour highlighting looks even redder 😢

[slim phoenix]

you’re underrated

[misty wing]

Woah

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/100percent-gif-18871108

[strange thicket]

hah no, blade is awesome and way better.
gives an epic vibe

[solid gate]

is it better to run improved assembly or enhanced armor on a tiger II?

[civic relic]

its almost a plain black camo but yeah, it gives a hell lot of fear factor

[slim phoenix]

which tenth-tiered tanks don’t have a legendary warpaint again?

[solid gate]

T110E3 T110E4 T110E5 the tier 10 yoh idk name

i dont think E100 also has a legendary camo

[split dawn]

The tier ten Yoh is the “M-VI-Yoh”

[solid gate]

there are many

[regal hinge]

Who for the tournement Tier V at VI come now just one place and mp me

[balmy compass]

I think all the tech tree ones have a legendary “camo”

[slim phoenix]

stalwart

[balmy compass]

E3 is Bulwark, E4 is Battlestar, E5 is Rebel and Yoh 6 is Pride

[solid gate]

ok im just dum lmfao
ive seen the rebel but none of the others

[balmy compass]

The other 3 hardly change the look of the tank tbh

[solid gate]

does T 22 and T100 LT have a camo

[slim phoenix]

it’s called the t-100 interceptor. idk about the t-22 medium, because it’s an old collector’s tank

[slim phoenix]

what are the 215b and 4020 skins?

[balmy compass]

215b octopus

Whats the 4020?
And I think T22 med has “Uncatchable” for legendary, not too sure tho

[slim phoenix]

my bad, i meant 4202

[hard cedar]

215b octopus/octopus x fv4202 safari

[molten otter]

any idea on tier 7 russian IS

[slim phoenix]

it gets too much hate

[molten otter]

i need to get the is7, because i didn't grind it earlier

[slim phoenix]

good luck!

[molten otter]

came here for tips

[slim phoenix]

i wasn’t being sarcastic. also, i didn’t realize you were asking for tips

[solid gate]

Give me some tips on how to destroy the blody Matilda.

[molten otter]

if top tier be frontline, beware of TDS, if low tier snipe at the back and kill low health tier 5s by using high dpm, use cali and APCR a lot

[solid gate]

Hmm, the back portion... thx

[hard cedar]

he was asking how to kill it not play it
and telling people to camp in the back in a heavy 💀

[exotic fog]

The inverse of what was asked 🙂

It happens.

[hard cedar]

Still told him to snipe in the back in a heavy!

[slim phoenix]

but @molten otter you didn’t say you wanted them and in any case, unfortunately i won’t be able to help you out with that

[tough steeple]

What tanks have good bottom hull armor?

[violet timber]

Concept 1B had 150mm on the bottom of its hull

[viscid jackal]

^ what this guy said

[plucky summit]

For some reason the IS-2Sh has 110mm armor on the deck, and the M6A2E1 EXP has 191mm for most of its deck, which is probably hit more than the underside so

[jaunty shell]

Why is the D-Max so lousy. Its penetration is mediocre at best, it’s kinda slow, it has a tall, weak armor profile, it has a long reload,and there are other T6 TD’s like the Kryos that have almost a 1000 more dpm, higher mobility, better accuracy, and a fantastic armor profile. Wargaming, make it make sense.

[plucky summit]

180mm of pen is mediocre? Get outta here

[balmy compass]

The D-max has a fairly good armor profile for its tier, there are several angled spots that can deflect shells easily

[plucky summit]

Well I wouldn't say it's good, but can troll people rarely

[balmy compass]

D-Max seems more like a more armored Nashorn

[violet timber]

The D-max has a gun and an okay armor profile as long as the enemy can’t aim

[jaunty shell]

Kryos has 175 pen, 220 alpha, 4.5 sec reload, 3.3 sec aim time, and .297 dispersion. D-Max has 180 pen, 310 alpha, 8.5 sec reload, 3.6 sec sim time, and .297 dispersion. Sorry, but I feel like you’d be much better off choosing any other T6 German TD, tech tree or premium, than choosing the D-Max.

[balmy compass]

You realise the kryos is based off of the jadpanzer 4 which has a very quick reload time

[plucky summit]

The Kryos is OP, don't compare tanks to it unless you're arguing to nerf Kryos

[balmy compass]

And the kryos still has weak armor despite having a lower plate buff compared to its original

[violet timber]

The Kryos actually has rather good armor. It’s a Badger taken down to tier 6 and given mobility

[jaunty shell]

Literally the only weak part of the Kryos is the lower hull, besides that it will bounce most T6’s and a fair portion of T7’s for days, the D-Max literally only has enough armor to avoid being HE’d from most tanks, but most people normally shoot AP at it anyway, and it’s Nashorn counterpart still has 500 more dpm

[violet timber]

Nashorn can be HE’d and it’s gun doesn’t pack the same alpha as the d-max

[balmy compass]

If you dont like the D-Max then dont play it

[jaunty shell]

I personally feel it could use a bit of a buff to give players more of an incentive to use it, it currently can’t compete with most other TD’s, maybe take a second off of the reload time or increasing the standard Pen a bit so it doesn’t struggle as much against T7’s, it is using a T8 gun after all

[violet timber]

It’s pen isn’t that bad…

[balmy compass]

You can always press 2 for prammo

[swift trout]

Will there ever be a chance to earn the VK 30.01 H again? 🗿

[plucky summit]

If you've had it before 5.5, sure, you can get it :p

[jaunty shell]

When will the M4 Jumbo be back

[violet timber]

Never

[hard cedar]

👿

[neat nimbus]

now this where i wonder why they posted that

[balmy compass]

Because some ppl like to enrich tanks

[neat nimbus]

i mean on tier 8 premiun tanks

[scarlet kernel]

IS-6 is still on the tech tree store

[neat nimbus]

i have that tank

men if the emil 1 hasnt already a camo i would equip the barbie girl camo is very funny and cool

[scarlet kernel]

that camo actually messes with the red armor highlight so, it gives an advantage

[plucky summit]

IS-7 looks great with it

[boreal spruce]

its my fav camo, on my amx50b, and lttb

[scarlet kernel]

blitzhangar got the type 71 model now
the lower plate on ground level is around 70 degrees so you can ricochet some AP and APCR rounds

[plucky summit]

all AP and APCR rounds*?

[violet timber]

Ummmm what? WeeGee, you good?

[scarlet kernel]

oh yea, i forgot there is no 300mm caliber gun

[plucky summit]

You have to be pretty tall/close, or it will have to angle pretty far for the LFP to actually auto-rico

It's not too OP, as there is always a weakpoint, the tank has to angle between the lower plate or the should plate as weakspots

I think the armor is fine, other than the cupola, they just need to nerf other aspects of the tank

[scarlet kernel]

yea while it's still in supertest, i don't mind if this thing would be the most armoured tank. As long as they don't make the gun op aswell

here is the sidescrape position, the green line is penetrable
there is still 178mm of armor in the front, and the yellow lower plate is richochet angle

[plucky summit]

At least prammo butters it when it doesn't overangle like that, the turret isn't so bad either

The only reason this tank should EVER be problematic is because you're engaging it too closely, or it's hulldown and you're not that accurate

Unless you think "I'm really far away, it's angling and I'm a moderate distance above it" as a practical scenario

[civic iron]

but then again, there are leopards and t-100lt's that can flank and stick shells right up its exhaust pipes

[balmy compass]

Just get behind it 👍

[scarlet kernel]

the turret traverse is the same as the IS-7 so flanking would be easy
but the hull traverse is better than the IS

[scarlet kernel]

one last thing about the type 71 armor

[neat nimbus]

I wish WG adds back the crash models

Gives a more realistic look and could be as graphic option just like the realistic tracks

[balmy compass]

It might have to be implemented in such a way so it wouldn’t change the hitbox of the tank

[neat nimbus]

That's what I mean just aesthetic model no alteration on hit box

I don't like the tinted model cuz looks more like is has camo

[balmy compass]

Almost 300mm lower plate? Or is that bc its at a angle

[scarlet kernel]

.

[balmy compass]

Oh ok

[boreal spruce]

its the angle.

[misty wing]

Imo they should nerf the side armor, modern tanks usually have very weak side armor

[plucky summit]

It's not like it can sidescrape

[scarlet kernel]

it can, maybe not as reliably, you have the same problem as the IS-7 when sidescraping

[boreal spruce]

its just going to be another hulldown heavy. just like the t110e5 etc.

[scarlet kernel]

comparing to the STB-1, the type 71 would be around 1,5 meter longer
the rest is just 0,3 meter difference (according to blitzhangar)

[slim phoenix]

nightmare moment

[plucky summit]

Given that Gargoyle exists, Nightmare is pretty outclassed

[molten otter]

what are you gonna do when a platoon of t1heavies come charging towards you? , your 40mm gun won't do shit to their armor

[hard cedar]

As if sniping in the back is gonna do more

[solid gate]

what site it this

[molten otter]

by staying at a distance, you can atleast make him miss his shot, and have more time to aim at his lower plate

[crystal hare]

Blitzhangar.com

[oak pollen]

How to play centurion mk.1?

[solid gate]

just go hull down and use the dps

[scarlet kernel]

the progetto 65 feel so slow

[slim phoenix]

shouldn’t have left everything on the line to go after the grille back when you were still fighting against it though haha

[stark pier]

Is cheiftan mk6 more a medium range sniper then a traditional heavy?

It gets killed easily anywhere near brawl range

[thorny smelt]

A support heavy tank

[solid gate]

Which is better overall- the M48 Patton or the T57 HEAVY?

[strange thicket]

medium hunter/support heavy.
you can get close to the frontline if you have a hulldown spot

[slim phoenix]

you are right, now i am supposedly a certified ™️ simp

[scarlet kernel]

I wasn't expecting to get fxp this fast, i need 10k left for the Wz 121

Now i have a decision, use 50% exp cert for the 120 and save 40k fxp to use on the jap HT module research
Or spend 400k fxp on the 121 and save the cert on the jap ht

[slim phoenix]

all in jest, my friend

[scarlet kernel]

i wonder, if the class 3 (P) fit in blitz? if it's classified as a light tank, the speed is nerfed to 60kph, and it's penetration is 250?

Or they could use 155mm gun with HE and HEAT only?

[scarlet kernel]

They probably gonna encounter the same problem as the type 5 heavy?

[blissful igloo]

Class p have tires and the only tank with tires are in PC and is the panhard
Type 5 Heavy would be useless

[swift perch]

Vk30H vs barkhan and vice versa

[plush blade]

Should i buy?
I need a good tank for farm and wins

[rigid thunder]

basically you want the most competitive tank, in which the T28D is good, but not very competitive

[plush blade]

Wdym by competitive

[rigid thunder]

basically its position in the meta

[plush blade]

Whats meta (sorry)

[rigid thunder]

most efficient tactic available, I'm sure u can guess the meaning from that

[plush blade]

So whats ur point?

[solid gate]

His point is that the tank is not great for farming wins

[plush blade]

Oh sad i thought it was good + i saw it had very good armor

[civic relic]

It has a bit of improvementa over T28 Prot in armor, but it still is unreliable

[solid gate]

It’s slow, the armor is littered with weak spots, and the clip reload leaves you defenseless at times. It is a team support TD. If your team isn’t stepping up you are going to be having a tough time.

[civic relic]

Though a nice attachment to T28 Defender- its gun has the E 100 gun sound, and with E 100 gun sound you can do everything

[grand cypress]

???

[exotic fog]

How about no swearing?

Staying within a branch has always had some benefit, versus crossing over.

[balmy compass]

Not sure why its like that, it would be better to research from jpanther but its not worth buying

[civic relic]

insert loud bell or bonk sound

[stark pier]

Are any of the defenders any good?

[plucky summit]

Defender Mk. I serves as a great hulldown autoloader

It has a much better turret than Caernarvon, which is just dumb to me

[arctic bronze]

Heres a fun fact ig, shoot the middle part of the lower plate of the panzer iv (any kind) and it's engine will die

[civic relic]

I've played 60TP badly recently and I still do somewhat decent in it (stats got wrecked though)

Is it broken?

[timid peak]

you wanna cross the line? well, you were able to do the line before, I dont have how to help ya.

[violet timber]

Because that's where the transmission is...

[violet timber]

The 60TP is only one of the three best tanks in the game at the moment.

[tough steeple]

Is the 53tp really good rn or why do i see so many of them (tier 8 one, polish heavy)

[shell robin]

do transmissions get caught on fire if hit irl?

[slim phoenix]

because people are grinding for the 60tp. they’re just blindly fitting in with the herd, if you ask me. the “experts” say it’s a good tank, so everyone follows suit, even though it’s only good for like 5% of skilful players’ approaches. granted, my opinion is probably part of the unpopular minority here @calm drum though

[hollow belfry]

1. The Polish line as a whole is quite good, 53 TP included. 2) The 60 TP is meta at the moment 3) It’s a heavy with a beeg derp gun so attracts a lot of players

[slim phoenix]

is this the sole instance where a tank’s research values vary differently, depending on its tank of origin?

[hollow belfry]

So yeah, there’s quite a number of people grinding these tanks.

[shell robin]

"If the experts say so, it must be true"

[tough steeple]

okay i see thanks

[elfin rain]

should i buy the gold crate and then the T28D and MK.1D

[boreal spruce]

go for the cent defender, dont buy the crate, crates are dodge (no kid they are dodge)

[solid gate]

which is the best medium i can take for the 1st time?

[shell robin]

define 1st time

[solid gate]

my 1st medium, i have never played with a medium tank

[shell robin]

T-62 or E 50M make for nice impressions on mediums. If you're willing to make a hard grind worth it, the STB-1 is also a popular medium

[umbral hamlet]

E50m or t62a, stb is also great (my favorite medium among these) but the grind is one of the worst in the game

[solid gate]

i prefer something easy for the start

[shell robin]

then T-62a or E 50m. T-62a if you enjoy the hulldown meta, E 50m if you want to be the bane of every other medium tank

[solid gate]

ok thanks for the help

[violet timber]

E50M is quite possibly the best all around tank at the moment, though the meta doesn’t reflect that due to heavies having insanely high HP. It has armor, mobility, and a good enough gun. The grind is meh, but worth it

[boreal spruce]

tactics for the line? (im gonna grind it next)

[violet timber]

Absolutely bully other meds, then get to the sides of heavies with your decent mobility

[boreal spruce]

for the whole line? (panther panther 2 etc?)

[violet timber]

Panther is now not as good at bullying meds, but has a great gun for support. The Panther 2 is… kinda sad tbh, but your best bet is to bully other meds

[boreal spruce]

k then thanks

[misty wing]

I wish they'd start porting tier 10 collectors to PBR
so far it's been 1 tier 10 tech tree, 1 tier 8 prem, and a low tier tank that no one cares about almost every update

also tier 9s seemingly have very low prio

[jolly estuary]

I want an explanation

[rigid thunder]

good for you

[jolly estuary]

I bought an m4 sherman

and they didn't give me the tank

I spent 400,000 credits for nothing :,v

[pine panther]

M-80

[jolly estuary]

I don't see it in my garage and I need an explanation

[misty wing]

you might have filters on

[jolly estuary]

What?

[pine panther]

Ik this glich it happent to me when i was buying teir V american tank.Or maybe someone hack ur acc.

This glich happens when u have low wi-fi or have small rps

[jolly estuary]

what

[pine panther]

But if u re-enter the game maybe u will have

[jolly estuary]

okay

[pine panther]

@jolly estuary

[jolly estuary]

what

[pine panther]

Do u have a tank

[jolly estuary]

obviously

@pine panther it didn't work for me xd

[pine panther]

Try to report a problem

[jolly estuary]

what you told me that I have to exit the game and re-enter and I still don't see it xd

where

[pine panther]

Tell it op

[jolly estuary]

What ?
where?

[pine panther]

Tell it for admin or moderator they will try to help u

[misty wing]

check if you have filters on
it's possible you have americans, tier 5, or meds filtered out

[jolly estuary]

And where do I disable the filters?

[misty wing]

bottom right of garage

[stark pier]

Is there any really good mediums in the e50m line or is it an auto skip to the t10

[misty wing]

panther is decent, rest meh

[stark pier]

Yea playing it now just wondering if the e50 is worth it or I should free xp to e50m

[violet timber]

Free xp. There’s a reason the E50 is rarely talked about when the E50M is brought up.

[past crane]

E50 is decent when top but it’s a horrible grind, and it definitely needs at least 10mm more turret armor. Panther is good, Panther II is ok.

[hazy warren]

Should I get Emil 1951 or Defender Mk1?

[umbral vigil]

emil
im new this is my opinion

[hazy warren]

Hm alr
And no dw I don’t need professional reasoning lol jus tryna find new thing to run

[misty wing]

defender mk 1 is by far the better tank

[runic cloud]

It's Defender, if u wanna play the 1951 play the tech tree version
The Defender MK1 is unique and better by a long shot

[hazy warren]

Alr bet
Ty for suggestions 🤝🤝

[misty wing]

if you like the emil's playstyle you can always get the tech tree version, it is very similar.

[hazy warren]

Bought, time to run this guy

[cold ore]

Tell us how it goes, can't decide between t28 and Mk1, want both but can only afford one.

[hazy warren]

Are you more of a slow type player?

[cold ore]

Enjoy both heavies and meds. But play slower tanks more.

[hazy warren]

Then get the TD, it may not be best but great support + good for your playstyle fam, just be sure to know how to use the drum

[cold ore]

Yeh I have IS3 defender, which I quite enjoy and t28 is better apparently.

[hazy warren]

Its not better. Its a different class tho keeps armor as its original t28, ho not the same but similar, and has little higher mobility I think so its a mobile version of is3

[cold ore]

Some good points, thanks. Been watching some YouTube reviews and pretty much all the guys reckon the IS 3 defender sucks, but I really enjoy mine and do ok in it, so will probably also enjoy t 28

[misty wing]

T28 defender is overall better than IS-3, yeah

[solid gate]

should i get kranvagn?

i mean the line is pretty good (since i fought the emil 1 and 2)

[shell robin]

it's good line, but not necessarily meta if you care about that

[solid gate]

so should i get it?

[lyric island]

check your filters

[shell robin]

yes

[solid gate]

ok

[slim phoenix]

tfw ur only good at the meta but nothing else

[plucky summit]

tfw I have 33k gold waiting for literally anything I care about to come out

[nova hull]

:D

[nimble topaz]

noice

[cold ore]

Still not digging that end of battle screen, I skip straight to the last one for team results

[solid gate]

noice

[jolly estuary]

finally xd

even had a lost tank

for the same of the m4 sherman

xd

[nimble topaz]

first tier 10

dang i wasted the regenrator camo

[cold ore]

Cool

[nimble topaz]

cause i bought the legendary camo of 50b RIP ME

[tepid geyser]

Ok

[hybrid thunder]

how to kill a tiger 2

[misty wing]

load gold

[hollow belfry]

Dab the two key

[thorny smelt]

Go for a tank with a high pen gun (TS-5, AMX CDA 105, etc.)

[misty wing]

talks about high pen tanks in tier 8
doesn't even mention ISU
sadge

[thorny smelt]

That's why I put et cetera since there are lots of them >_>

[wise moth]

those are 2 pretty rare tanks to think of first tho

[scarlet kernel]

I found this, so...
Im expecting one of the two outcomes

1. We will have the tank top gun as 57mm fast firing gun

2. We will have the 57mm gun as stock, then WG will put the mitsu 104 turret and the 7.5cm gun as the top gun

[paper ermine]

what is that

[scarlet kernel]

The mitsu 108 is supposedly the tier 5 of the japanese HT tech tree

[paper ermine]

ohk

[misty wing]

why post a pic of the matilda BP

[scarlet kernel]

Just cause

[copper swan]

website source?

[scarlet kernel]

Since the "matilda BP"
Is just a matilda with a cromwell turret on

What if we have a cromwell with a matilda turret?

[copper swan]

move faster but less protected
if the Cromwell turret ring could fit a Matilda II turret at the first place

[scarlet kernel]

I just searched on google, found reddit tho

[scarlet kernel]

The cromwell turret should have a bigger diameter than the matilda

[copper swan]

smaller turret means a gap in the turret ring
fire once and the turret could just drop off

[scarlet kernel]

What about modifying it to fit?

[opaque jewel]

tiger 131 good

[nova hull]

Noice

[solid gate]

Someone know how to fight against armored tanks with leopard?, the Cannon's penetration is too low, I can't hit armored tanks

[thorny smelt]

Flank and go for their sides and back. If it happens you're in a tier 5-6 match and KV-2 is in the enemy team, avoid facing it or you'll dead from 1 shot.

[balmy compass]

Leopard is built to flank spam and then run away

[solid gate]

this tank have low penetration, but it deals kinda high damage if all shots hit the enemy

[thorny smelt]

300 burst damage and 10 seconds reload

[balmy compass]

You can only pen T1 heavy and M6 at the very back of the tank

[thorny smelt]

It was my first with VK 16.02 Leopard to deal 300 dmg in one magazine

[balmy compass]

That Leopard was my first tier 5 tank lol

[thorny smelt]

So annoying to face one

[solid gate]

Also, what tank I should get after?
VK 30.01 D
or VK 28.01

[balmy compass]

The 28 is good, the 30 is a crappy german T34

[thorny smelt]

Which line are you going for?

[solid gate]

well I have a tier 6 tank hunter so I'm looking to get some faster tanks

[balmy compass]

Go for Leopard 1

[solid gate]

medium or light tanks would be good

[thorny smelt]

Then go for Leopard 1 line

[balmy compass]

I suggest taking the ru-251 part of the line

[solid gate]

ok thx

[thorny smelt]

But take @balmy compass 's advice

[violet timber]

Do not go Leo 1 as a first tier 10. That is a horrible idea. Scrap the line for now and go something like the IS-7 line. They’re faster heavies, so it should satisfy your need for speed

[opaque jewel]

ty

[balmy compass]

All tank lines need xp and skill to play the tanks?

[paper ermine]

when an armor age player plays too much:

@balmy compass yes some doesn't ig

[balmy compass]

Leo 1 isn’t that hard to play

[paper ermine]

nashorn camper tonk

[violet timber]

The Leo 1 line is horrible for new players. It requires a lot of map knowledge and positioning ability that they just don’t have yet.

[balmy compass]

I see

[violet timber]

IS-7 line has good guns throughout, decent enough turrets, and decent enough mobility, with the IS-7 being one of the easiest tanks to play right now

[paper ermine]

how to play as a Jagpanzer IV

[violet timber]

Find someone who isn’t playing attention to you, aim in, fire, fire, fire, fire

[paper ermine]

e ok

i don't even have the tank but i'll buy it again-

[balmy compass]

But your engine breaks when the lower plate is hit lol

[paper ermine]

ye dats a problem
One shot, one dead

[balmy compass]

I dont have fire problems in my german tanks

[violet timber]

E50M doesn’t really have a fire problem

[solid gate]

Which tier X is best to grind?

[violet timber]

Yoh, 60TP, or IS-7

[obtuse stump]

E5 only for the T29 btw E5 also a good line, the nerf 😦 WG instead of nerfing E5 nerf Miner (WG=Supercell)

[inner kelp]

if you’re grinding T110E5 stop at T29, there’s no point

[obtuse stump]

😤 no! E5 is great

[violet timber]

I’d actually say go all the way to M103 for the E5 line

[inner kelp]

Just don’t go for the tier 10, basically obsolete

[obtuse stump]

m103 stock, the pain in the first week

[solid gate]

Ok, is object 263 good?

[violet timber]

It’s average

[tough steeple]

Jgdtiger e100 is nice

[violet timber]

JagdPanzer*

[tough steeple]

Yea

[balmy compass]

800 dmg go brrrr

[tough steeple]

But what did they do to poor russias nice looking tech tree...

[balmy compass]

It looks better now, better sorted and it matches with the other tech trees

[tough steeple]

Yea thats what i dont like

[slim phoenix]

exactly @solid gate don’t listen to everything that you hear from bloggers on a forum, the soviet heavy line goes very slowly, and they shouldn’t be putting you down imo

[solid gate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[violet timber]

The IS-7 line isn’t slow lol

[solid gate]

But now make a new line will be slower than make the ones that I'm already on tier V

[violet timber]

If you continue on with the Leo 1 line, I’m 95% sure it will lead to frustration and bad results after every battle

[solid gate]

when I bought leopard was just like that, but after I learned to use it I realized that it's a very good tank on the right hands

[violet timber]

Tier 5s are easy to play, and you’re probably still in bot mm. Once you get to tier 8, you will start struggling

A lot of the players telling you that the Leo 1 is good are probably skilled players who have a lot of experience.

[solid gate]

and i can not make my skills better?

[violet timber]

You can, but not in the time it would take you to get to tier 10

If you really want a line with mobility that much, go for the E50M

[tough steeple]

Im kinda stuck on is rn its so bad imo

[violet timber]

It’s overall a better tank, and the line is much easier for newer players.

[solid gate]

Actually I'm making 2 lines

[balmy compass]

E 50M line isn’t to bad, although you dont want to play stock, but that pretty much effects all tanks

[solid gate]

is E-100 good?

[balmy compass]

Big gun large tank, turret is easy prammo and the lower plate is huge, if you angle well you can get a decent amount of bounces

Its fun to play around in and the other tanks in the line are great

[tough steeple]

Im going for jgdpz e100

[balmy compass]

Thats a fun tank, huge cannon although lengthy reload

[tough steeple]

Yea, and slow

[balmy compass]

It can be hard to bounce shots due to massive lower plate and most heavies and tds can use prammo to pen the sides of the front of the gun cabin

[tough steeple]

Yea, a traditional td

[covert dagger]

Same

[solid gate]

looking to buy a tank can anyone help dm me plz

[misty wing]

A premium tank?

[solid gate]

from store

[slim phoenix]

but i still doubt that such a tank would presently remain operationally in service, to this very day @calm drum however

[shy hound]

Would y’all recommend the t28 defender bundle which also includes equipment, a garage slot, and a avatar

[slim phoenix]

i would not

[shy hound]

7,500 gold

[slim phoenix]

imo the tank is far too expensive compared to its value and quality, while those other 3 things really aren’t worth any gold to begin with

[vagrant dome]

Uhh t26e5 is on the store for 7k gold on switch

[tough steeple]

what one u on rn?

[covert dagger]

Jagdtiger

[tough steeple]

Nice, im 85k xp on jpanther 2

[covert dagger]

Only have 73.5k XP on my Jag so far.

[wintry orchid]

If you get the jg remember to angle it

[tough steeple]

Yea

[slim phoenix]

when will dead e100 turrets finally stop breaking my tracks 💀

[pine panther]

Braking tracks is clever trick but so annoying

[hoary pendant]

I kinda ruined some peoples day but I got the M

[pine panther]

I can see

[hoary pendant]

I usually dont have any problems Mastering a tank hut d*** did that take forever

[thorny smelt]

Poggers

[hoary pendant]

And apparently people suck in the AC IV Sentinel bc I got 10 ACEs in it in 1 day well like 8 hours

[pine panther]

I want to add M-80 in update 8.9

[tepid geyser]

Ok

[hoary pendant]

YES

[paper ermine]

why is my dream is to get that tonk

[hoary pendant]

A little more for ya mate @paper ermine

[dusty copper]

For lowe, enhanced armor or improved assembly

[plucky summit]

Enhanced armor, will really help with anti-150/152mm HE, as well as make that upper plate all the more reliable

[scarlet kernel]

what if we have a tech tree line of light tanks with autocannons?
the only autocannon in the tech tree is the VK leo

[hard cedar]

bc line is autoloader?

[plucky summit]

I think he means machine gun-like guns as Leopard's

[scarlet kernel]

^

[plucky summit]

Pretty impractical given I doubt they can penetrate much armor at all, def not in high tiers

[scarlet kernel]

but it'll be fun tho..

[hard cedar]

o

[plucky summit]

Is it fun dumping all your shots and doing 0 damage?

Go ahead, answer

[scarlet kernel]

yes

[plucky summit]

Then you leave no concern for the health of the game

[scarlet kernel]

i mean not always in high tiers, could be at tier 8 max or something

[plucky summit]

Still, it'll have to use real shells at some point, even tier 6 is dodgy

[scarlet kernel]

what if we get the PT 76 57

[plucky summit]

Whatever, autocannons become invalid once any form of armor shows up

[scarlet kernel]

we already have the annihilator, so i doubt that

[plucky summit]

That's not an autocannon 🤨

[scarlet kernel]

what is it? a gatling cannon?

[plucky summit]

Basically, yes, three cannons loaded at the same time to be fired in rapid succession.

Good luck to WG to find real tanks that do that to make into a line

[balmy compass]

Its just a triple barrel firing mechanic

[scarlet kernel]

well with this we'll probably just get kugelblitz as a tier 5 premium

[past crane]

Isn’t that an AA vehicle? Those are designed for fighting planes, not tanks and thus would be useless in Blitz.

[civic relic]

if u guys wanna get machine gun tanks similar to leopard in high tiers it should have its ammo buffed to a pen of like 100 mm+ in tier 8 then 140+ in t10, otherwise yeah they're gonna be useless, heck some tanks rears can defo bounce some of those rounds

[late crane]

That's the M-84, M-80 is a IFV.

And no, T-72 tanks are a bit too much on Blitz's era.

[misty wing]

I'd rather stick to adding PC's lines than go for weird/modern tanks

[thorny smelt]

Object 705A :3

[civic relic]

Pz kpfw VII wen

[thorny smelt]

We have already, The Lowe. If you refer to its heavier brother, VK 72.01 K.

[misty wing]

Pz kpfw VII is different from both of those on PC

[thorny smelt]

Well Pz. VII is technically Lowe. Just swap the 15 cm gun with a 12,8 cm one on VK 72.01 K and voila!

[civic relic]

60TP should get the 150 mm ufp like in PC

Why cant it have it in blitz

[slim phoenix]

i really wish they would split the “european” branch. it’s far outlived its usefulness by now imo

[thorny smelt]

Agreed. Soon they'll be adding new lines in the future

[slim phoenix]

they said they don’t want to change it though

[misty wing]

Yeah same, once they add the polish meds, Czech heavies, and Italian heavies, it needs to be split

[thorny smelt]

What do you think of the Rhinoceronte line?

[slim phoenix]

and i never thought the day would come when i would say that i missed this tank, but it would be a real shame to lose the vickers mk f from this game

[misty wing]

Bad
And the rino looks kinda ugly ngl
They're basically the swedish heavies in blitz too, but without the strong turret

[thorny smelt]

I forgot. Which country Vickers Mk. F belong to?

[slim phoenix]

swedish light tanks when 😈

[slim phoenix]

finland

[thorny smelt]

Ooof. One lonely Finnish light tank

[slim phoenix]

i really hope they extend the german light line to the tenth tier within half a year 😩

[thorny smelt]

Rheinmetall Panzerwagen?

[slim phoenix]

you should be able to research a tank destroyer from the kv2

[thorny smelt]

Well WOT PC did. KV-2 leads to SU-152 instead of KV-3.

[slim phoenix]

exactly, if we’re talking about bringing in more changes to streamline the approach from wot, then this should be considered among them

[thorny smelt]

Also Tiger P leads to Ferdinand which makes sense since Ferdinand is based on Tiger P's chassis

[civic relic]

in wot pc, su 122 54 doesnt exist, obj 263 is at t9, and obj 263 leads to 268 v4....

wrong ping

[hollow belfry]

Are you really going to act like if it wasn’t already meta enough?🗿

[thorny smelt]

Well it is a line of well-armored USSR tank destroyers with depressing gun depressions

Also, it's alright. We all do it anyway

[slim phoenix]

the connection between t49 and t54e1 has really grown obsolete though

[misty wing]

And rear mounted guns

[thorny smelt]

T54E1 is a heavy in PC

[slim phoenix]

they need to extend the british light line backwards past the crusader and ideally matilda too, and i hope they add some form of transferability between the two tank destroyers from that nation as well

[thorny smelt]

Manticore line?

[slim phoenix]

we desperately need a french medium line in this game

and swedish tank destroyers, even if they’re different from the desktop platform’s version

[thorny smelt]

Renault G1 at tier 5?

[tough steeple]

yes swedish tank destroyers sounds fun

[thorny smelt]

Strv 103B line

[scarlet kernel]

Leopard prototype B

[tired lark]

should I buy the 252u or the is3 def which one is better

[hollow belfry]

252u is better

[tired lark]

is the 252u better than even the m6exp?

[karmic nymph]

For sure

[misty wing]

M6 exp isn't even that great

[violet timber]

Are you seriously asking for a buff to one of, if not the strongest tank in the game at the moment?

[blissful igloo]

Finally get FV4005, WG should REALLY put a reserchable 183mm cannon for it, needing at leats 50k of xp to reserch

[tough steeple]

How do i play vk 36...

[dense torrent]

imo just Tiger I at tier 6, sidescrape whenever you can, also don't forget the magic box at the back that absorbs shell for some reason

[scarlet kernel]

Honestly, if they ever did do that
I'd rather play with the autoloader

[thorny smelt]

It will compete with the existing tank with the same 183 mm L4 gun

[violet timber]

How about we don’t need another one of the most toxic guns in the game?

[misty wing]

But the autoloader is better lol

[solid gate]

No. That opens up the potential for six 183 mm guns in a match. That is a horrible idea and you should feel bad for bringing it up

[manic carbon]

The deathstar is one of the most played tier tens and got nerfed into the ground because the 183mm was a significant balance issue. We really do not need a second tank with the gun, especially one that has super consumables and mobility. Though, if it got the gun it would be hard nerfed just like the deathstar

[blissful igloo]

So at least they should buff the turret armor from 15mm to 90~100mm, the autoloader and the 160 degrees turret rotation dont fit for a autoloader at tier 10

@misty wing @thorny smelt @violet timber @scarlet kernel

[misty wing]

Why in the world would you want to give it armor

[scarlet kernel]

Full 3 AP shell burst of that tank litterally dealt more damage than the HESH of the 183

It's not a tank with a gun, it's a gun mounted on a tank. It's fine as it is

[solid gate]

Or, and hear me out…. It’s fine as it is.

[manic carbon]

Its turret armour comes in the form of spall liner

[thorny smelt]

Uhhh no. IRL, it has 14 mm of armor. Spall liner exists for a reason for this line.

[violet timber]

All I’m hearing is “I can’t play the tank properly and I want it to be noob proofed”. It doesn’t need a buff. It is fine, as long as you have skill.

[valid gale]

How is the autoloader the problem for an auto loader it has the highest clip potential and dpm of them all

[silver bison]

is grille 15 bad. it seems pretty not flexible and mediocre

[balmy compass]

Paper thin armor and extremely bad camo rating, the gun is pretty good tho, quick aim time and good pen

[manic carbon]

Not bad, honestly it’s fine.
It will feel like a downgrade is some aspects because you go from the highly versatile Waffle to Grille which is significantly less versatile

[balmy compass]

It has a decent speed but the track turn rate sucks

I think if your commander dies it adds 10 seconds to reload time

[modest solar]

So tiger p better than tiger 1?

[balmy compass]

Tiger P has better frontal armor, although it has a bigger cupola

[modest solar]

Idk I find it, ppl couldn't penetrate infront (keep pushing)

[balmy compass]

Tiger P cant sidescrape well tho

[modest solar]

Don't sidescarpe it

Idk how to explain

[balmy compass]

I played Tiger P before

[modest solar]

Running out of word

Just angle it near cover, risk the track but just know when to peek

If 1v1, just rush enemy either miss the cupola or miss the small lower plate. or got hit, Dpm nice?

[blissful igloo]

Well, ok then.

[slim phoenix]

purely in terms of speed, the grille does noticeably better than the wt

[strange thicket]

just going forward
it has atrocious turn rate
and i honestly don't know why
not like it is too flexible anyway so why cripple is turn rate

[balmy compass]

does enhanced armor for Tiger II work well? or would improved assembly be better

[plucky summit]

Absolutely, it can really put mediums in their grave, and maybe compete against more prammo

[balmy compass]

Looks cool

[tough steeple]

Looks like a tiger to me

[misty wing]

It's an e75

[lyric copper]

iirc, a 4005, without the intraclip reload buff consumable, can almost unload all 3 shells in the time it takes for the 183 to aim

[scarlet kernel]

yep, 183 aim time without provisions and equipment is 6.2s

[umbral jungle]

Hello. Is 252U in store worth it?

[thorny oriole]

Should I grind LT 100T or IS 7?

[hard cedar]

t100

[thorny oriole]

why?

[hard cedar]

it's more fun and it is arguably the best lt at t10 rn!
(although harder to play than is7)

[umbral jungle]

Is this a good tank? Good deal?

[thorny oriole]

I think yes

[hard cedar]

not bad just overrated and boring

[fast bridge]

Should I get t57 or 50 b?

[umbral jungle]

Boring tank?

[hard cedar]

yes

[thorny oriole]

Which tank is best tier X wot blizt( despite hulldown cause I'm agressive)

[umbral jungle]

You all might laugh but I really enjoy the Vindicator lol

[thorny oriole]

OK

[umbral vigil]

I dont have It but I really want it

[umbral jungle]

168 is best tank lol

[thorny oriole]

what is a 168

[umbral jungle]

Obj 168 lol

[umbral vigil]

you mean 268?

[thorny oriole]

I need a tier X that fast, gud gun, no amour( if yes then better) , a high pen gun and a gud gun despression

[umbral vigil]

easy, Sheridan

[umbral jungle]

Oh yeah. Im special lol

[fast bridge]

Stb

[thorny oriole]

Bruh I already have that

[umbral jungle]

Sheri is a pain. 183 as a pain

[umbral vigil]

amx medium tank

[thorny oriole]

How to play the sheridan? I always lose in that

pls help me

😦

[plucky summit]

@brittle canyon What gun?

[brittle canyon]

KV-1 derp gun 🤌

[plucky summit]

Alright, I will probably have it either tomorrow or the next day, I gotta be very busy tonight and tomorrow

[brittle canyon]

aight thanks man

keep up le good work 🙏

[plucky summit]

Thanks

[misty wing]

I'm seeing a lot of bad takes here ngl

[plucky summit]

The reqs? O h

[misty wing]

those are a lot of pros to satisfy, but I would say the 4005 is the best fit for that description

if you can handle autoloaders, it's a pretty good tank imo

if you'd like something a bit faster and with more armor, but trades some of the "high pen gun", then the AMX 50B is a good option as well

your requirements are a bit hard to fill out because fast tanks are usually meds/lights with bad pen, or russian style heavies which have bad gun depression

[umbral jungle]

Pewpew

[umbral jungle]

I think Vindicator has worst depression

[umbral vigil]

thats a lot of collectors

[umbral jungle]

I like collecting

[umbral vigil]

If I were you I would sell them all exept ms1 Cuz im new and I spend gold on useless things

[umbral jungle]

I have 45 collectors

[umbral vigil]

can I have one im poor

jk But I have no collector

[umbral jungle]

I'd share if I could lol

[umbral vigil]

ded chat

[nimble topaz]

fun fact: The game lagged when a smasher's gun was already pointing at me.... my tank is a steyr btw...

[misty wing]

I thumbs down'd the post on TVP updated graphics lmao

They're not getting a thumbs up until they speed this up

or do tanks that I actually have, I have like 80% of them but they always seem to do the ones I don't have