vehicles-discussion

[drifting grove]

You get them for tank birthdays. Along with ×5 XP.

[low stream]

Deym

[drifting grove]

Tank birthdays are every three months.

[lyric copper]

for example, the Tortoise’s 32pdr and the 183mm of the FV215(B) 183 were 2 piece ammo

The 105mm L7A3 of the Leopard 1 was single piece ammo

[violet timber]

^ Bigger/heavier shells tend to be two-piece as you don’t want your loader lugging around a single-piece 183mm round in a prolonged engagement

[south crest]

How to get t6e1 Grizzly?

[manic carbon]

I believe that is a tank given as a reward as part of the tutorial process for new players

[south crest]

Is there any ways of making the tutorial right now? Even if i already in a high tier?

[drifting grove]

No

[south crest]

Oh :/

[lusty flame]

Ye I think you have to grind real early to get it

[wise moth]

IRL, yes, the Soviet 122mm, and 152mm guns do use 2 piece ammunition, but Blitz balance and stats is pretty far removed from real life at this point

[solid gate]

wait why is it because the reload is so long??

[violet timber]

#GiveIS-7AnActualAutoReloader

[wise moth]

Because balans.
Big guns on Blitz do more damage, so they have less DPM to compensate

[solid gate]

hmm i see well if its real life crews will do it in just 8sec or less haha

[violet timber]

152mm shells are rather heavy

[valid gale]

Reloading a 152 in a closed space is also ridiculously demanding

[violet timber]

^

That’s why you usually had more than one guy loading for the big boi guns

[nova creek]

Tier 1 meta?

[misty wing]

no one cares enough to know

[violet timber]

Ummmmm Pz2? Not sure tbh

[tepid geyser]

tier 1 meta 💀

[plucky summit]

I'd love to see JRK and RGN do their picks for low tier tournament battles

[elder stag]

Is kranvagn good

[shell robin]

tier 1 meta are Pz II, Cruiser II, M2 Light and surprisingly, the Ha-Go

[strange thicket]

yes, very good

[shell robin]

how good is the T-62A?

[violet timber]

Pretty good

[umbral hamlet]

Cruiser II probably, best gun of its tier, combined with amazing gun depression

[lyric copper]

try lifting a 25kg 122mm shell in the cramped turret of an IS-2

[blissful hamlet]

Irl, a 122mm round weighed around 20 kg.
A 152mm round, prob twice the weight

[worthy leaf]

T-44

[violet timber]

Just try loading the Sherman Firefly lololololol

[shell robin]

try being the commander of a Ha-Go

[amber socket]

even then wg insists on making BL-10 have 12 second reload (which is faster than lots of the 120mm guns at T8)

[astral robin]

Not bad for only the third time using this tank

[plucky summit]

B-but the versatility of R35 hulldown 😭

[shell robin]

Every tank in tier 1 can hulldown

[plucky summit]

Yeah but R35 has the GD to do it effectively

[umbral vigil]

why is everyone talking about t1 tanks

whyis chat dyein

[misty wing]

cuz t1 tanks are boring

[tepid geyser]

people play tier 1 for like 30 minutes max, why is tier 1 meta even a convo lol

[astral robin]

Ok how about the amx1357 not bad. Just run stay focused on your aim fire and run

[past crane]

YES. That was my favorite T1 besides the PzII

[hard cedar]

This is sad

[shell robin]

i liked the ha-go over the r35. same gd, but better dpm on a faster platform

[misty wing]

time to grind the chinese TD line

[scarlet kernel]

quick question for my freemium acc, buy tiger 131, yes or no?
i only have T14

screw it im buying it

[misty wing]

No

[thorny smelt]

Nuuu. Keep on farming gold

[scarlet kernel]

too late, the power of Bovington tank museum lies within me

[thorny smelt]

_>

[scarlet kernel]

well now i unlocked the crew skills, which should i do first? (HT)

[solid gate]

repairs is bettet

[plucky summit]

Not "same", but still close, it's 15 degrees, unlike the 16 on R35

But sure, after R35 suffered, Ha-Go would take the lead

[thorny smelt]

Thoughts on the T23E3?

[copper swan]

go get yourself a mastery for that tank

[thorny smelt]

Is it really that good?

[copper swan]

underrated after the buff, but still hard to play

[thorny smelt]

Why is it hard to play? Anyways, I got it last night from free Huge Container.

[misty wing]

iirc, t23e3 is like the comet, which is pretty bad nowadays

[thorny smelt]

Ooof. I kept it though in case I'm in a mood for playing tier 7 matches.

[rigid thunder]

paper armour, gun has low alpha + mediocre penetration. Generally takes some skill to work it. I'd say it's a better comet nowadays, due to the comet's armour being pretty useless, while the T23E3 gets better standard pen, shell velocity, aimtime, and 30 km/h reverse

[thorny smelt]

I played it 2 times earlier and it's quite good actually.

[rigid thunder]

yeah it's easily dismissed by others but the tank itself is actually nice to play, and can perform pretty well

[thorny smelt]

Good DPM and mobility

[trail orchid]

The Conway ,stock gun or the one that gives you more damage but less penetration according to the stats, anyone got an opinion

[trail orchid]

That Chinese tank that's on sale through crates isn't screaming come buy me at all ,just looks an average tank to me

[jade kernel]

It look like Chimera that Made in China but it slower than Chimera

[fast compass]

Significantly more armor tho

[copper swan]

well, 122TM is based on the T-62 but with a different gun than the soviet tank

[dusty dawn]

The Tier 6 Polish heavy? Thoughts? I find it a harder kill than many T6 heavies..

[arctic bronze]

how do you play the Pershing properly, do you play it like every american mediums and go hull down

[kindred wren]

Essentially

[umbral hamlet]

avarage tank, literally nothing special, just a polish vk36 with a worse turret

[runic cloud]

learn to sidescrape, and you will be invincible agains tanks like the m6 or arl

[plucky summit]

Basically a more sluggish comet, but it's not much worse at least

[solid gate]

Standard b good med to grind for?

[misty wing]

why would you grind based on a tier 9

look at the tier 10 and decide

[west rapids]

👍

[solid gate]

I wasn't aiming for tier 10

[plucky summit]

Some people grind just for a tank within the line

Often people grind Grille's line just for WT

[misty wing]

I don't think any tank has ever appealed to me in that way
except the stock st-i

that thing makes me extremely tempted to grind the is-4

[plush rivet]

It's a scam!

[rare ice]

Why do you have to nerf the tiger 2 every update it’s a shit heavy now and it’s just plain annoying its making me want to delete the app

[manic steppe]

@exotic fog He said a bad word

[plucky summit]

It's literally not garbage at all

[rare ice]

It’s so much worse than it used to be

Every update “don’t forget nerf the tiger 2 again guys” not to mention EVERYTHING can pen it’s upper now

[plucky summit]

LOL have you considered angling?

[rare ice]

T28 other tiger 2s T34 Jpanther 2 can all pen WHILE angling

Give it back it’s old armor of inpenatrable upper and lower

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, I'm gonna use TD level penetration values to justify that every tank can pen it upper plate

The upper has always been that way, btw

[rare ice]

It’s been nerfed every update it’s just annoying

[rare ice]

No no it hasn’t I’ve been playing for 2 years now every update the armor has gotten worse

[plucky summit]

Or maybe players are actually getting better? 🤨

Idk what to tell you, the upper plate has only gotten buffed

[rare ice]

Lol no it hasn’t

[plucky summit]

It's phenomenal against standard shells from most tanks

[rare ice]

Oh look a Lowe one of the worst heavy pens at tier 8

[plucky summit]

234 standard in tier 8 is amazing, what is wrong with you?

[solid fractal]

Lowe and bad pen? Not really as far as I know

[misty wing]

Lowe has great pen lol

[rare ice]

Last time I had it it wasn’t like that

[misty wing]

afaik tiger 2 has only been buffed except for one update where they nerfed the accuracy and traverse, but buffed the dpm

[plucky summit]

The Tiger II's upper plate has had nothing but buffs, it started at 150mm in the more recent years, got buffed to 160mm in update 6.3, got buffed to 166mm with the homogenization update, and remained that way

Also Lowe's pen has been that way for a loooong time

[rare ice]

Then how come every time I angle correctly It feel s like everything can pen my upper

[plucky summit]

Because they press 2, or you're exposing yourself to tank destroyers, which are literally designed to counter you

[rare ice]

Last time I checked the premium on the 53TP wasn’t AP

[plucky summit]

Send me the clip or replay of you failing to angle your armor properly =)

[rare ice]

I didn’t fail to angle it properly

[plucky summit]

I'm sure a 20% damage reduction for existing isn't that bad

[rare ice]

I was literally side scraping

[plucky summit]

Turret facing the enemy, not wiggling your gun mantlet and cupola?
Or were you sidescraping from your right side?

[violet timber]

Then you were exposing yourself for too long

Moving back only to fire then going back forward would’ve made it a very hard penetration

[tough steeple]

JPanther is op

[violet timber]

Ja

[tough steeple]

Btw which tier 7 and 8 are the best?

[south crest]

Is there any good-penetration Tank in tier VI?

[violet timber]

Look at TDs

[violet timber]

Smasher and Annihilator, also the Chimera and T54E2

[tough steeple]

Okay

[olive mica]

E100 needs big buff

[south crest]

Nvm, Tank Destroyer

[plucky summit]

It really doesn't

[olive mica]

Well
The armor a lil

[plucky summit]

Well it's meant to abuse its HP and alpha

[misty wing]

why are the 122 TM's guns all wrapped up

[thorny smelt]

In short, you have some skill issue. Just angle it. It's a boxy tank with thick armor. Be aware of high pen guns and prammo shooting the front of the turret.

[scarlet kernel]

Grille 15 is more fun than WT auf. Pz 4

[thorny smelt]

T100LT: I'm gonna end this man's career

[plucky summit]

A vastly opposed opinion

[strange thicket]

no, Grille 15 is way more fun than Waffle
not better, just more fun

[scarlet kernel]

Yea, the Wt is great and all but.. Being fast and able to shoot a 15cm gun accurately is really fun

[still viper]

Is wz 122 tm good?

[solid gate]

I Knew it, many if you won't know that which tank is it.

[distant nymph]

T49 with the stock turret and 90mm, the real historical T49

[thorny smelt]

Yes, but it's in crates so I won't recommend. Wait until it is sold in gold.

[still viper]

ohhh ok

Should I buy the is2h

[thorny smelt]

Also no

[misty wing]

It's good but why would you add a wz to the name when it's not there

It's like when people call the 121b the wz-121b
I don't get it lol

[still viper]

It is on mah phone 😭

the in-game shop literally say wz 112 tm 😭😭

[misty wing]

Does it? 🤔

[still viper]

Yas!!!!

[misty wing]

Yeah well that's WG being braindead again I guess

[still viper]

Ikr!!!

[misty wing]

The tank has WZ nowhere in its name in the garage

[still viper]

Let me do screenie

[misty wing]

Idk if anyone remembers but WG decided to add WZ to the name of the 121 shortly after it came out
Like it used to be just the 121

And 113 on PC has no WZ either
Idk why the blitz devs are so obsessed with WZ

[still viper]

Loook!!!

Alsooo what tank should I buy with 6k gold 🤔

[thorny smelt]

Keep on farming gold from ads

[still viper]

Good idea!

[misty wing]

Yeah I saw

[thorny smelt]

The cheapest premium you can get is the IS-5 priced at 1.5K gold but you need to be in a clan and have a level 10 personal clan supply. Tier 8 premium usually priced at 5K to 8K. New ones are priced higher.

[still viper]

😭😭 am only level 9 😔

[thorny smelt]

You can do it

[still viper]

thanks 😊

[scarlet kernel]

it's a designation from the chinese

like, FV for Fighting Vehicle

[lyric copper]

meanwhile the Russians have the Obj. and the number corresponds to a manufacturing plant

[scarlet kernel]

Some people may critic that a lot of chinese tanks ingame are unrealistic or fake tanks

But IMO, the tech tree is way better like this than being full of land lease and copy paste vehicles

[rigid thunder]

except for the Chinese medium line, there were perfectly real and actual existing alternatives that wg could've went for
and instead they went for some paper designs

[scarlet kernel]

Yep

Also for those wondering what the FT means

[strange thicket]

not really

[still viper]

How bout is2h

[strange thicket]

terrible

[still viper]

Hmmm 🤔

[strange thicket]

if you want a side scraping premium the chrysler is decent
the is-2h is just bad

[still viper]

What t8 prem should I buy with 6k gold

[strange thicket]

i am not sure really, but currently everything in the shop is not really worth it
save a bit more gold and you could get a decent or even great one

[still viper]

Oooh okie

[thorny smelt]

Bruh. You didn't even read my advice to you?

[still viper]

Oh umm I forgot about it lol 😊

[thorny smelt]

_>

[clear night]

ammorack are not that easy to find in most tank and some are kept in an impossible places that even a shot cannot trigger ammorack explosions

[violet timber]

Which tank would you happen to be referring to aside from the Lycan

Afaik every single tank in the game can be racked aside from the Lycan unless you get some insane rng

[timid peak]

get the new boxes for ads

[lilac mica]

What do y’all think about the Obj 252u. ? Some days ago someone said to me it was an overrated tank

[thorny smelt]

I do that every single day

[timid peak]

me too

[violet timber]

It is a bit overrated, but still very good

[low flax]

• no troll armor, obv. weakspots (paper cupola, huge front pike, huge gap between tracks and track skirts)
• bad accuracy (its like 183 but 400damage)
• decent speed and accel.

overrated

[violet timber]

The armor is very much troll lol, upper plate is insanely thick, proper black hole sides, and the cupolas are rather small

[low flax]

armor isnt troll.

-upper plate is thick but unless you are at same height no one shoots upper plate.

[violet timber]

Oh boy, you countered one of my 3 points

Guess the armor isn’t troll after all

[low flax]

i was trying to shift+enter.
-idk what is "black hole" but its 100mm. Huge gap makes it easier to pen
-did you ever see small cupola ? 54e2,acx,53tp even is3 has small cupola. This thing is not huge but not hard to shoot.
-you have weak gun mountlet. APCR shells can pen you from gun mountlet.

[rigid thunder]

these are the black hole sections on the 252U's side

[violet timber]

Here’s a 252U side scraping. This is a horrible position for pike nose tanks, yet it can do it comfortably due to how strong the upper plate is. Also, have fun hitting the cupola while it’s moving back and forth lol

[low flax]

-its not comfortable, as you can see its already around 260-250 with a little over angle you can get penetrated.
-cupola sarent hard to hit because you are in close combat. You wont be sniping with that 122mm so its really easy to shoot cupolas.
-it has side scrape potential but since lower part of pike wider than the upper plate you always showing it.

im not telling it cant side scrape, it just have obvious weakspots. Only you can face hug beginners and survive.
you cant go hulldown at most of place because you dont have gun depression.
I have like 200-250 battles with 252u. Im just telling why its not fun to play. (anymore) im telling cupolas are pennable you are telling its good scraper. k

[violet timber]

It’s at a 20 degree angle here, so the sides are an auto bounce, upper plate is over 300mm effective. It’s pretty easy to go back and forth to throw off the enemies aim, and the lower plate is so small that the rng needed to hit it make it basically impossible
-Someone who’s played a lot of 252U in tier 8 comp

[copper swan]

thinking should I used improved fuel or improved gear oil for polish heavies

[violet timber]

But food, gear oil, big fuel

[solid gate]

I'm thinking of buying te 121B but wat do u guys think about it?

[violet timber]

Just get the fatton

[solid gate]

Fatton?

[violet timber]

M48

Lovingly called the fatton due to its slight lack of mobility

[elfin rain]

Is a good idea that im gonna buy a 5500 gold package the new one

[crisp fulcrum]

I don't think it will only cost 5.5k gold

[elfin rain]

i mean it has kinda good tanks

[crisp fulcrum]

He also have this

[violet timber]

He’s a tester

[crisp fulcrum]

Obj 268/4

[leaden escarp]

Jagdtiger is underrated.
-change my mind

[plucky summit]

Luckily because their penetrable spots are so wide, moving back and forth isn't much of a problem

Doesn't help them that I'm also using Lowe

[solid gate]

Damage farm for my AX and mk 5/1

[silk charm]

Isn’t this a good deal

[pallid flame]

How good is the T25 AT?

[pallid flame]

3k for that thing isn’t bad

[snow gull]

I just fought against a Obj 274a, does anyone know what it is?

[pulsar sinew]

Next round of test tanks

[snow gull]

Dang, then I just found the first one being tested in the NA server. I tried my darndest to pen it with my Amx 13 75, but I needed to use apcr

The frontal armor of that... thing... was pretty strong for a, umm... a medium?

[plucky summit]

I find it extremely difficult to believe you couldn't penetrate 95mm with AP

[snow gull]

I couldn't. He was rushing me an i panicked

[plucky summit]

Well don't be so exposed to high tiers rushing you, the lower plate is easily penetrable, and the 13 75 is not designed to compete at all in a facehug

[snow gull]

Well I was trying the speed is key technique, and go around him, but his hull rotation was pretty fast too

[wintry orchid]

He onto the tracks then and it’ll work

[scarlet kernel]

I have an idea, what if the Wz 113 G FT
Have the gun in the back just like the obj 263?

[solid gate]

Hmm whats a good tier 10 med to grind to

[pulsar sinew]

What do you have already?

[solid gate]

I have no tier 10 meds actually

I usually don't play high tiers, only recently have been getting into them

[pulsar sinew]

T62a, e50m and 121 are fun

T62 is probably a good first line

[solid gate]

👍

[violet timber]

There’s also the Patton line which has a pretty straightforward play style of hull down, hull down, and some more hull down

[deep ivy]

Tier 8 and 9 usually suck from Patton line

[solid gate]

Lol, I got the m46 not long ago since I heard it was decent on WoT (pc only version) but figured it prolly wasn't good in blitz. Should I go ahead and get m48 then too? Or grind for the t62a?

[plush rivet]

Get the M48, T-62 is not as good as people say, also the WZ-121 is better.

[solid gate]

Lol

[violet timber]

They’re both actually kinda good, especially since the dpm buff on the Pershing

[wise moth]

Man.... I CANNOT wait for the official release of the Bat Chat PBR model. It looks soooo dam good

[pulsar sinew]

@tall fern English only

[solid bear]

Bruh the t62 is good in the sense its realible. The patton’s turret can be hit with all types of regular shells and the 121 still needs to aim in

[knotty flint]

How do i get Panzer IV Gargoyle, Churchill III, and Chi-Nu Kai?

(without buying them)

[solid gate]

There no way to get them without buying

[knotty flint]

all of them?

[solid gate]

Gargoyle was from an event and chi nu kai was sell for 10k gold

[knotty flint]

damn

[solid gate]

I no it sucks

[knotty flint]

so no way of getting any of them without spending?

[violet timber]

Nope

[knotty flint]

Sad, The Chi-Nu Kai seemed really good

[scarlet kernel]

Well you can still watch ads for gold (mobile only)

[knotty flint]

i can do that (it'll take days tho) how much is Chi-Nu Kai again?

[scarlet kernel]

Last time it was 10k gold

[solid gate]

10k

[knotty flint]

jesus, what's the cap for ads i can watch per day

[solid gate]

You get 10 gold for watching 1 add

[knotty flint]

yeah but every day after i watch a certain amount of ads the option to watch ads for gold disappears and reappears the next day

[solid gate]

Ye

[scarlet kernel]

50 gold per day, and a minimal of 30 gold per day with ad crates
Should give you 70

Yea it's gonna be a long time, but there is gonna be events, bp and clan rewards

[knotty flint]

so uh if i only rely on ads, per month it would give me 2170 gold, and since i have 1K already, i would need 9K more, meaning it would take more or less 7 months

[scarlet kernel]

Yea pretty much

[knotty flint]

i think i can safely say it's hard being an F2P Collector

[scarlet kernel]

The struggle, but the rewards feel better

[knotty flint]

yeah

@scarlet kernel the chi-nu kai isn't in the shop

[inland osprey]

For the Obj. 84, do you guys recommend vert. stabs or refined gun equipment?

[hollow notch]

Vstab

[inland osprey]

aight thanks, just got the tank and I'm loving it so far

[nimble topaz]

lunar event is here boys (I got muted for 3 days btw 😂 )

[inland steeple]

T-34-3 or 122TM?

[misty wing]

122 TM

[inland steeple]

whys that?

[misty wing]

more pen and better armor

[nimble topaz]

how to get coupons ??

[inland steeple]

so is that more important than worse gun handling and mobility/

[nimble topaz]

how to get these for lunar event ? nvm cant send pic

[misty wing]

It also has more dpm, and the t-34-3's gun handling and mobility aren't spectacular either

[misty wing]

is it just me or does the t95/fv4201 chieftain look extremely ugly

[wanton fjord]

i have 3k gold should i buy the f201?

[inland steeple]

with the massive capula on the chieftans roof it looks ugly

[misty wing]

fv4201 chieftain has no cupola

[wanton fjord]

FV201 i mean

[inland steeple]

the cheiftain t95 does

[misty wing]

that's not the tank I was talking about though

[inland steeple]

but the fv201 isnt a cheiftain

[misty wing]

read what I said, I did not make a typo

[inland steeple]

you said t95/fv4201 cheiftain! the cheiftain t95 is a different tank to the fv201 (a45)

[misty wing]

exactly, I said t95/fv4201 chieftain
where does the a45 come into this

[spark basin]

t95 fv4201 is a wot pc tank

[inland steeple]

oh right i play blitz not pc thats what confused me

[misty wing]

if you're confused then just look the tank up
instead of bringing up different tanks

[inland steeple]

I'm ever so terribly sorry

[misty wing]

lol it's all good
I still think t95/fv4201 chieftain looks incredibly ugly though

[thorny smelt]

I agree

[drifting grove]

Agree. American turret. Of course it does.

[misty wing]

I'm pretty sure it's american hull and british turret, no?

[thorny smelt]

Look at M-II-Yoh. It also has that tumor that T95/FV4201 has.

[misty wing]

Nah, that's more if an e4 tumor

[thorny smelt]

Which E4 you're referring to?

[misty wing]

T110

[thorny smelt]

Here's another view of the M-II-Yoh

[spark basin]

somehow looks worse than the squished head yoh

[misty wing]

yeah the ii yoh looks awful

Have y'all seen the m vi yoh stock turret on PC lmao

[thorny smelt]

I did LOL

[misty wing]

it looks so cursed

[nimble topaz]

autoloader vs autoreloader
whats the diffference ?

[drifting grove]

https://youtu.be/62P8diU9OYA

[nimble topaz]

ohhhh now i get it.. how epikkkk

[thorny smelt]

Autoloaders have to reload the whole magazine after it dumps all of the shells. Autoreloaders, on the other hand, can shoot once then reload, or dump the whole clip like an autoloader would do.

[nimble topaz]

whats the best autoreloader tech tree line ? the italian line ? swedish ?

[thorny smelt]

Here's the stock M-VI-Yoh

[spark basin]

how is that worse than the top turret

[umbral hamlet]

Italians still have workable dpm if u shot dry (empty mag), while swedish have bad dpm even with a full mag.
those 2 lines are quite different btw, Kranvagn is a positional fight heavy (hulldown) while progetto is quite a versatile medium

[civic relic]

that turret looks like a squished conqueror turret

[nimble topaz]

😂

[weak sparrow]

patton worth the grind

[inland steeple]

yes patton is a strong tank, very meta hulldown mt with great dpm

[copper swan]

but it has 2 weak seams on the turret near the gun mantlet

[nimble topaz]

i keep losing bruh

[violet timber]

Patton is one of the more underrated meds at the moment. It is very good, like a 62A with 350 alpha

[copper swan]

but it feels like the armour is unreliable

[strange thicket]

far from it actually. armor is pretty good

[violet timber]

This is really the only penetrable plate while it’s hull down, and if you’re slightly wiggling you’re turret and moving backs be forth it’s rather hard to hit. There is the cupola, but that’s rng based anyways

[copper swan]

that's the concern, since the weakspots are quite big

[violet timber]

They aren’t really that big, especially when you wiggle a bit and move back and forth, the sides are very angled and the mantlet is very thick

[fast compass]

Dpm buff did so much for it. And the gun handling buff before it

[violet timber]

^ my fatton is now good

<@&481447501690568709> some friendly person wants you all to have nitro

[strange thicket]

what do you consider small weakspots?

[copper swan]

T-22 medium's cupola

[strange thicket]

so non existent?
pretty unrealistic way to pick up tanks innit?

[copper swan]

or the box sized weakspot on IS 4's turret around the gun mantlet

[strange thicket]

so you are looking for hulldown immortal tanks that require no thought or what

[lyric oriole]

No they are being very reasonable when saying that Patton has a pretty big weakspot

If your best argument for tanks with small weakspots is immortal hulldown tanks, then they have small weakspots

Requiring no thought does mean harder to hit

[strange thicket]

the weakspots are "relatively" big but are in now way easy to hit.
they are looking for something like a t-22 which has a broken turret and using it as a baseline 🗿

[keen bramble]

is the E3 better than the E4?

[violet timber]

Yes

[misty wing]

they really renamed the 122 TM to the WZ-122 TM...

at least this name change is somewhat historical though

the 121 -> WZ-121 name change is extremely historically erroneous on the other hand

[tough steeple]

jpanther 2 or ferdinand which tank do i get?

[umbral hamlet]

jpanterII is much, much better

[tough steeple]

Okay

[safe cedar]

Are they also giving out free candy?

[hollow belfry]

Yes but you have to get in the van first
Not sussy at all

[scarlet kernel]

What if there is a tier 10 autoloading tank with 10 round 75mm gun, 240mm pen? And 15 sec reload with 1.5sec intraclip

[light coyote]

Which is better, the Obj.140 or the T-62A and why?

[misty wing]

t-62a because better gun handling, better turret armor, more gun depression

[lusty flame]

Hey guys is the 121b worth 15k gold?

[drifting moon]

No

[scarlet kernel]

I have an idea, what if special provisions or consumables have drawbacks?
Like sandbag armor increase HP but it'll add weight making it slower
Tungsten shell gave 3% slower reload cause im guessing tungsten is heavier

[gloomy rune]

That’s my idea actually. To nerf waffle players, waffle using spall liner should make it slower.

[scarlet kernel]

Nah, i don't think spall liner is that great, it took 1 slot off your provision and even if you can't shoot HE at it, just use AP

[nimble topaz]

is steyr wt good ? i saw it in yt.. seems good to meee

[misty wing]

Bro are you trolling
Spall liner is insanely OP

[scarlet kernel]

I don't think it's OP i just think it's annoying

Sure you can't really HE them alot, but the ones that have spall liner have low HP anyway so i don't mind

[misty wing]

Spall liner will increase vehicle durability by like 1 shot on average
If you don't think it's broken then you probably didn't shoot HE enough before it became a thing

[scarlet kernel]

Oh sorry you can't deal high single shot damage to them anymore.

Then shoot AP, just damage them, it doesn't really matter, you get higher chance to damage them with AP than accidenttally splash with HE anyway

[misty wing]

Being able to get penned by HE is supposed to be a balancing factor for these tanks
Like the rhm and ISU, the latter is supposed to have the advantage of being more HE proof
But with spall liner making HE obsolete, you're removing that factor from glass cannon tanks

It's ridiculous how stupid spall liner is and even more ridiculous to not run it if you have the opportunity to

[scarlet kernel]

HE are still not obsolete, also last time i remember ISU doesn't have spall

Rhm have 0 armor anyways so you can just shoot them without having to worry about not penning (unless RNG) the low armor is already a balancing factor. Spall is not OP just annoying

[misty wing]

ISU has always been HE proof due to its armor thickness, whereas the rhm is not. However, since the rhm now has spall liner, it no longer has that disadvantage and I consider their survivability to be roughly the same now

[scarlet kernel]

Exactly, it doesn't matter

[misty wing]

Okay I take back what I said about spall being OP, it's broken, rather

[misty wing]

It does matter because it takes away variety

[scarlet kernel]

It really doesn't

[misty wing]

Using the right ammo in the right situation is like the best skill gap in the game
And now HE doesn't even matter for a lot of tanks

[scarlet kernel]

HE still matter if you know when to use it
make a tree fall, check if they have spall, deal damage without penning

[misty wing]

Why do you care about checking for spall if you advocate just shooting AP anyway lol

I think all calibers except for the 640/550/960 alpha tanks and the 183 should get an HE alpha buff tbh

[scarlet kernel]

I know you're gonna focus on that
You shoot HE for a chance if you can deal more dmg, if they have spall you shoot AP

It doesn't matter as long as you can deal dmg

[misty wing]

Based on your previous messages it seems like you didn't like taking that chance to deal more damage in the first place

[scarlet kernel]

I said "sure you can't HE them a lot..." Im saying you can't HE them too much, im not saying to not use HE

[misty wing]

You really like to throw out the "it doesn't matter" card when being able to HE these glass cannon tanks was an important part of the game and now they took it away

[strange thicket]

spall liner just destroys the entire purpose of paper tanks having paper armor
you are supposed to play them cautiously and concealed. pick the angles you shoot from, be unexpectable.
with spall you just don't care about HE anymore.

[misty wing]

^ yeah spall liner removes the distinction between having paper armor and having just bad armor

[scarlet kernel]

You really need to care about being shot at, paper tanks still can't survive as good as the one with armor

Bouncing is better than taking hit, so again being paper is a higher disadvantage

[lyric oriole]

But they can survive on par with tanks that are HE resistant and better in some cases because it guarantees HE not being shot at them

[strange thicket]

they are supposed to be punishing when exposed
one mistake, death. unless luck.
it is a simple formula for paper tanks.

[scarlet kernel]

Shoot HE infront of an ISU vs an RHM

Spall is reducing the damage, ISU blocked but got splashed
RHM still got damaged a little lower than AP

[strange thicket]

you are just reiterating what mayo said

[lyric oriole]

I would be OK with Spall liner if it reduces HE Damage by 7% but was ineffective against any shell 12.8cm or larger

[scarlet kernel]

I just realised that

[misty wing]

There are supposed to be 4 basic classes of armor that tanks should be balanced around:

1. Heavily armored
2. Workable armor
3. Bad armor
4. Paper thin armor
   The presence of spall liner negates the difference between the last two, which removes game variety and makes tank balance more boring

[scarlet kernel]

But still tho, if someone is like me checking if they have spall or not with HE, they will still get higher damage than an ISU being splashed by HE

[strange thicket]

nah shooting HE with any gun that is less than 15cm is not worth it anymore
and even some 15cm guns with bad HE suffer the same fate as 12.8-

[misty wing]

Sheridan, Ho-ri, and Foch need better HE
60tp HE can stay bad because it's already op enough

[lyric oriole]

Who's splashing an ISU with any gun lower than 150mm or 105mm HESH

[scarlet kernel]

Exactly, you don't cause you know it'll just splash

With rhm even with spall you still deal higher damage than splashing

[lyric oriole]

Why are you shooting an ISU for HE

[scarlet kernel]

But i can undertsand you guys about the spall problem cause from what i've read you guys likes to use HE more in 105mm gun and lower

[misty wing]

not really. The most typical alpha damages at tier 8, 220/225 and 310, deal around 270 and 400 alpha with HE respectively. Spall liner reduces HE damage by 20%, which results in 216 average for 90mm guns (less than the AP), and 320 average for 105mm guns, which is about the same as with AP
and 122mm guns with 500 HE alpha get reduced back down to the exact same as AP, 400

[lyric oriole]

Also 12.8/13cm guns are reduced to 480 average which is only 20 higher than AP

[misty wing]

the worst case is the ho-ri getting reduced down to 544, even lower than the premium AP

[scarlet kernel]

I thought everyone use a lot of HE in 120mm guns and higher, and more standard and prammo in 105 and lower

But apparently from what i've read you guys like them more in 105 to lower

[lyric oriole]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uXLOdOHLgOIbamXMsPcClBDO-rPlPWtes_ZS6b_hCIc/edit?usp=sharing

120mm Guns get reduced to 400 Alpha with HE on average

Literally undoes HE bonus damage and increases risk of splash

[misty wing]

don't forget that tanks with 420 alpha dont gain bonus HE damage, so those end up doing less with HE

[scarlet kernel]

Apparantly ya'll put more HE in 105 guns and lower than me so im starting to understand why you sthink spall is OP

[lyric oriole]

Lmao

[misty wing]

of course we do, those guns typically belong on meds where you flank and get the rears of enemies a lot

[lyric oriole]

Dude really doesn't play high tiers apparently

[scarlet kernel]

Most of my battle is in tier 8-10

It's just that the only lower caliber guns that i put HE above or equal to 10 is HESH

The rest, lower than prammo

[lyric oriole]

If you play 8-10 a lot you should be seeing plenty of WT Auf PZ IV

A broken vehicle with a broken provision

[strange thicket]

did you even
did you even read what they sent?
do you understand how stupid it is that basically everything with a 12.8mm and less gun caliber is not allowed to shoot HE?

[lyric oriole]

Which for some reason is able to play up close like a T30 but better thanks to HE immunity now

[scarlet kernel]

No? Because i rarely shoot HE on those guns so i don't think like that?

[lyric oriole]

There's 2 major reasons to bring HE

1. Finishing off Low Health tanks with no risk of Bounce

2. Paper Tanks

[strange thicket]

bro, why wouldn't you shoot HE on 12.8cm, 120mm
that is a pseudo high caliber that supposedly does 600

[scarlet kernel]

And i only bring it for 1 of those reason

[lyric oriole]

Then you are handicapping yourself

[strange thicket]

128-120mm is not even low caliber what are you talking about

[scarlet kernel]

My playstyle on this is "pen to deal dmg, if there is chance take higher damage"

[lyric oriole]

Taking damage is a strat?

[strange thicket]

that is the playstyle of basically every gun in the game lmao

[scarlet kernel]

I said 105 or lower not 120

And yea, HE is there to take the chance, if there is no chance then just shoot AP i don't think it matter much as long as i damage the enemy

[strange thicket]

that is the same philosophy with every gun in the game
except it is not irrelevant for everything 128mm and below because spall exists

[lyric oriole]

If it doesn't matter so long as you Damage the enemy then why not always shoot HE

[scarlet kernel]

GREAT IDEA

im putting the blame on you if my team rage btw

[lyric oriole]

I'm only using your philosophy

And then the one vehicle you can open with HE

I hope they have spall liner

[misty wing]

lmao I actually carry 2 normal HE in my 183
for when I need to splash a low health vehicle to finish them off

[lyric oriole]

I stopped carrying any normal HE after a couple battles where I ran dry and that was my only shell

I used to carry just one

[misty wing]

I suck in the 183 and haven't really ran dry before lol

[valid gale]

Nobody runs 5/5/5??

[misty wing]

5/8/2 here

[scarlet kernel]

Well obviously when i say "as long as i deal dmg" it also correlate to "deal higher dmg if i have the chance"

[misty wing]

I remember one time I accidentally shot HE at an IS-6 and somehow penned the engine deck

[inland steeple]

Panther, Panther II, Panther Bretgane, Panther/M10 & Panther 8.8 Ranked Best to Worst Tier for Tier

[misty wing]

Panther, bretagne panther, panther ii, panther 88, panther m10

[thorny smelt]

Pudel

[inland steeple]

is the panther 88 bad?

[hollow belfry]

Imo it isn't

[bitter void]

Hello

[misty wing]

<@&481447501690568709> nitro

[calm drum]

🔰Moona🔰#6082 was banned

[eager niche]

Anyone know why this tank is so hard to ace on?

[mortal saffron]

Cuz it's broken...

[eager niche]

I got 4 kills and nearly 4k dmg in one battle. and I got class 2

[mortal saffron]

That's normal, so yep.

[umbral hamlet]

6/9/0

[eager niche]

What should I aim for? 4k+ dmg with 5 kills?

[umbral hamlet]

probably the best tier8 td, so the ace bar os probably one of the highest at its tier

[mortal saffron]

6k+ 4-5 kills with some assist.

[eager niche]

Ah nice xD

[umbral hamlet]

5.5k dmg 4-5 kills (u can remove some dmg if u do assist or spot)

[mortal saffron]

I've been there, no Ace. 🗿

[umbral hamlet]

the acebar bepends from time to time, so probably u were in a week where requirements were at astronomical for some reason

[mortal saffron]

It's not like that was the only time that happened. IS-7 is meta tank so it's usually pretty high.

[eager niche]

Yeah IS-7 is a hard one so far for me to get

[mortal saffron]

280 in a tier 7 med, it's fine imo.

[scarlet kernel]

So i free exp chinese line till type 58 and the top turret, and i still need 391.179 free exp left till 121...

Oh boi

for those who wanna know how much you need to ace the t110E3 in APAC today

[golden shoal]

Is the 907 a decent tank?

I don’t play my other Soviet mediums that much anymore but it looks pretty fun. But if it’s just another cookie cutter Soviet med then I’ll pass

[hard cedar]

Could be less for all you know

[west rapids]

Decent but all of the Soviet meds+even the light tank we have now are better

[golden shoal]

I thought as much, thank you

[violet timber]

Obj. 140 moment

The 907 can be seen as a slower T100LT with a slightly more reliable armor profile

[strange thicket]

obj 140 is better than 907?

[west rapids]

Yup

[solid fractal]

Hard to say, it depends on your personal preference)

[strange thicket]

kinda find that hard to believe

[hard cedar]

I disagree

[solid fractal]

Hard to believe that it depends on your personal preference?

[violet timber]

Not even close. Relatively same armor profile, relatively same gun, but the 907 has more mobility. Pretty clear cut tbh

[strange thicket]

yeah the 907 has better mobility
140 has a teeny tiny bit of better gun handling but that is it

[violet timber]

907 does also imo have a better all around armor profile

[hard cedar]

I disagree I do not think either one of them is flat out better!

[broken parrot]

what tank t5 is good for farming?

[timid peak]

T1 heavy is very good tier 5

[broken parrot]

t1 heavy is american?

[plucky summit]

Yes

[broken parrot]

ok i will try

[misty wing]

what are you farming

[trail orchid]

My new favourite tank is the centurion 7/1 ,those HESH shells ,you actually feel sorry when you go in to a game and you see some Tier 8 tanks in the opposition team😀

[broken parrot]

credits

[misty wing]

none of them

[broken parrot]

just farm silver credits german have verry good gun but no good t5

[plucky summit]

Löwe is great but of course that’s premium

[violet timber]

Best credit ginder at tier 5 is gonna be the angry Conner

[night timber]

is the unstoppable platoon deal worth it for 5.5k gold

[south crest]

Which one?

[runic cloud]

well which tier 10 are you trying to get?

also throw that aside and go for T37

[south crest]

Okay, thanks 🙏

[runic cloud]

Actually tho, if youre trying to go Sheridan you have to go Chaffee

[vagrant dome]

Is the t54 good or should I continue the t100lt line?

[south crest]

Nah i rathe the heavy one

[runic cloud]

Alrights

The T71 is a tank you will have a lot of fun from (unbiased

[neat nimbus]

i want get the new tank but... i dont have wifi on my house

[runic cloud]

I think you have bigger issues than getting the tank sir

[neat nimbus]

if i wasnt poor i wouldnt have many issues

[runic cloud]

rest in peace 🫂

[neat nimbus]

would be a great birthday gift that tank

but seems i will have a grimmy bday this year men i want learn a lot to make a good profit

[umbral hamlet]

t37, Sheridan's line isn't really worth anymore grinding, unless if u are skilled with lights and u really like the peek-a-boom and hit and run playstyle, but statistically talking t57 is a much better tank

[brave night]

you can get the t57 and sheridan going the sheridan line

[solid gate]

ok I really need help lmao I can't choose the Kranvagn or the T57

[spring osprey]

T57 is honestly way better - Kran feels kinda gimped these days imo - grind to Kran is probably easier tho (Emil 1/2 are better than t69/54e1)

[solid gate]

Alr so what is more fun in your opinion cause I'm like a attack person yk

[solid gate]

And I'm all about fun tanks but something easy to grind for yk

[spring osprey]

Both lines have 'eh' grinds, Emil 1 is good. T57 heavy is definitely much more fun than Kran - also it's easier to do well in since you have good dpm and an easier autoloader

[solid gate]

Alr bet I'm not good at choosing so this helped lmao and I'm not very good either I only got the m4 Sherman for the t57 ATM so it will be a grind but atleast a fun one lmao

[spring osprey]

Np - if you have no experience with autoloaders the T57 line is probs the easiest to play

[solid gate]

Lmao yeah I had the tiger 2 but sence they nerfed it hard it was really difficult to play with it plus my friend has alotta of those types of tanks so he let me play on his acc and I play with both tanks and I couldn't decide cause they both feel like deacent tanks

[spark basin]

when was tiger 2 nerfed

[solid gate]

The last update I think alotta ppl said that the front armor was weaker

Idk abt that tho but it was def harder

[spark basin]

the tiger 2 was never nerfed people just learnt to spam premium immediately when they see a tiger 2

[thorny smelt]

I think they play Tiger II as a frontline assault heavy tank than a versatile heavy

[solid gate]

Nah I play as a versatile but as soon as I'm spotted I get pounded with rounds

[thorny smelt]

Tiger II is good as it is even before its armor was buffed

[solid gate]

It was??

[runic cloud]

no matter how much they buff it people are going to shoot prammo anyway

[thorny smelt]

Yes. It was my first tier 8 after I played so much with my Panther. I think I free-XPed some of the modules except for the 10,5 cm gun. Quite a good heavy tank.

[solid gate]

damn I might have to get it back then lmao

[thorny smelt]

I skipped the VK 36.01 H and Tiger I and carried on with the VK 30.01 D and Panther to get both Panther II and Tiger II.

[solid gate]

Hm alr

[violet timber]

Tiger 2 is rather good

[solid gate]

I can't really skip tanks tho cause I only got 1226 free xp lmao and Iv never bought anything on here

witch sucks but yk it is what it is 🤷🏿‍♂️

[thorny smelt]

Tiger P might be my 2nd most played tech tree tier 7 and got Ferdinand, VK 45.02 A (P) aka Porsche Tiger II, and VK 100.01 P.

[solid gate]

yeah that's akotta tanks that i would take a year to get lmao

[runic cloud]

you skipped two very good tanks

[thorny smelt]

More like meh to average for me. RIP engine

[runic cloud]

you skipped them, how do you know how good they are 💀 , also the VK 36.01 is objectively good, as its used in tourneys alot and has troll/thick armor with a good gun. The Tiger has straight up med mobility

[copper swan]

bruh

[thorny smelt]

Not my problem that I skipped them :3 I have some skill issue with VK 36.01 H but not with VK 30.01 D. I'm done with E 100 line already.

[copper swan]

you skipped 2 good tanks and pain grinded the Tiger P line?
sounds like skill issue

[thorny smelt]

It's weird that I like the Porsche Tiger more than the Henschel Tiger 🤔

[copper swan]

enjoy getting cupola sniped

Tiger P has a way bigger cupola than tiger 1, slower speed and vulnerable to tank destroyers

[thorny smelt]

That's the weakness amongst Porsche superheavies

[copper swan]

Maus: I don't have that weakness

[thorny smelt]

Yes. Except the Maus but prammo says otherwise LOL

[copper swan]

sidescrape to bounce

[thorny smelt]

Ye

[copper swan]

what's your progress in blitz now?

[thorny smelt]

I have to finish the YOLOwagon line ASAP before I could carry on with the IS-4 line

@copper swan I didn't participate in this Chinese New Year event. I'm on a break after I finished the battle pass.

[copper swan]

even bigger monke move
you could had at least go for 3 wins a day to get epic boosters @thorny smelt

the same boosters dumbs get for gambling on crates

[strange thicket]

nah
not participating in events for ones own sake is the biggest chad move

[thorny smelt]

Meh. I'm tired of grinding and I'm in the process of getting a new job and a Masters degree

[copper swan]

ok that's understandable, unless it's some skill issue player raging constantly and stopping blitz for months as a result

[thorny smelt]

Nah~~~ Once the battle pass is done, I'll take a break.

[solid gate]

Emil 1 penetration value is just too low. I rather have it at 232 or 234mm of pen with normal AP.

[strange thicket]

what
that is a good pen value for a tier 8

[solid gate]

But lots of heavies in tier 8 got more pen value than emil 1. Besides emil 1 gun is like a toy gun when firing at tiger 2

APCR on emil 1 just pen throughly around the gun manlet of tiger 2. I know the lower plate can be pen but sometimes it bounce.

[silk tulip]

hey guys i want to buy the legendary camo of the 60tp but i cant why ?

[solid gate]

Camo Crates@silk tulip

[silk tulip]

no way

i cant buy it directly ?

[earnest rampart]

Wait till the camo offer pops up once again

[rigid thunder]

it only appeared in offers as of now, so you can't buy it from the camo tab

[silk tulip]

😭

[misty wing]

no

[earnest rampart]

U can also wait till wg drops it at 60TP camo section

[silk tulip]

it will be more expensive ?

[earnest rampart]

Normal price probably around 3k-5k gold

[silk tulip]

okay thx do you have tips to have the camo offer pop up ?

[earnest rampart]

oh i just stop playing the tank for a while and then i just play a ramdom game and the offer pops up

[wise oasis]

AMX 50B worth it? I just had trauma from grinding off BDR and stock ARL, and I'm already making my way up the line

[silk tulip]

is good if u know play it

[rigid thunder]

very worth it

[wise oasis]

I have the general idea on how to play it, at most I'll just treat it as a unarmored T57 Heavy

[fast compass]

Well t57 is unarmored anyways

[strange thicket]

apcr can butter the entirety of tiger 2 unless it is angling

[strange thicket]

and lots of heavies got less
and the heavies with high pen don't have the luxuries of Emil 1

[misty wing]

is the wz-111g ft good

[plucky summit]

It’s…. Decent

[shell robin]

are american mediums still meta?

[spring osprey]

Were they ever? I mean the M48 is pretty stronk rn - definitely not the best mediums tho

[shell robin]

i remembered both the jumbo and e8 being meta way before 5.5

[spring osprey]

well i mean you can't get the jumbo anymore - also T6 meta is mostly irrelevant anyways. Bromwell is probably the best t6 medium rn

[shell robin]

well, anyways, what about e3 and e4?

[spring osprey]

E3 is good, idk about the grind though - I only have the t57 and sheri in the american line. T110E4 isn't as good as the E3, the grind is probably easier however.

[shell robin]

i plan on grinding the american tech tree, but idk which line to start with. pretty much on tier 6 or 7 with every line

[misty wing]

yoh

[spring osprey]

If you have some experience (which I would think you do), M48, E3 and T57 are what I'd recommend. E5/E4 aren't great, and Sheri isn't that effective - it is fun tho. Also god I forgot the Yoh, just get the yoh

[shell robin]

yoh comes last. i won't touch those abominations until every other line is complete. as for my experience, i'm about 7k battles and completed the entire japanese tech tree

[spring osprey]

lol then my suggestions stand - the yoh's are definitely the best american tanks rn

[spring osprey]

of all tech trees to complete, did you go for the suffering of the stb line first lol

[shell robin]

pain is a great teacher, I've come to find out. besides, looks good on my profile

[spring osprey]

there ya go - you basically completed the hardest line to grind first. Things can only look up now hehe

[shell robin]

which is better at hulldown, m48 or stb?

[spring osprey]

I have more trouble personally with m48, but neither have the best hulldown turrets. I'd probably go with STB being better hulldown

[shell robin]

i'll need to save up for the stb and learn to hulldown if i want to play the americans. they seem hulldown reliant

[spring osprey]

get the stb first - I'd say it's better than the M48

[shell robin]

i've heard it's one of the few mediums that can hold up in the meta, other being e 50m

saving my free exp for the japanese heavies too. that line will be fun.

[spring osprey]

E50m, 62a, and wz 121 are very good mediums atm, along with stb and patton as well honestly - It's hard to go wrong with mediums, all of them are actually quite good on their own ways.

[scarlet kernel]

Do i need to remind people that grille 15 is a german tank? And not to ram a german tank in any lt lmao

[shell robin]

george foreman grille 15

[shell robin]

idk, i heard chinese mediums come close

[spring osprey]

I liked grinding the chinese mediums - the WZ120 is a painful one, but you just need fexp, and all stock t9 mediums are terrible. I did really well in it when it only had -3 depression.

[past crane]

Never have been, but all are solid vehicles. T20 is probably the weakest of the branch but everything else is solid, no outstanding statistics for the three top tier tanks except above average DPM.

[south crest]

Any tips to get that tank faster?

[mortal saffron]

yes, spend

[cold ore]

Sell your soul and play 24/7

[shell robin]

yea

I basically gave up when i saw the cost and requirements to get a tier 7 rhm (that doesn't get spall or rc)

[scarlet kernel]

Imagine how accurate the t62A players if they have the new aiming system

[shell robin]

what aiming system

[scarlet kernel]

There is gonna be an improved aiming coming, faster react speed and other things

[wanton fjord]

should i buy the M4/FL10?

[shy laurel]

With the KpfPz-70 having almost the same penetration numbers as the E-75 since the standard APCR pen was buffed this past update
Does it make running Rammer on it relevant? Or does it still need CS?

[rigid thunder]

It never needed cs

[scarlet kernel]

this is the only reason why i don't like playing the t32 much, i find the gun more fun than armor

[plucky summit]

Well it's gotta be meh in something

[thorny smelt]

Who doesn't love that juicy 10 degrees of gun depression?

[misty wing]

T32 feels kinda sluggish to me

[plucky summit]

Well it is, but then again

There's a consumable for that

[misty wing]

tanks having reticle calibration or super speed boost doesn't fix the problems of bad gun handling or mobility, respectively

They only last for so long, and using them creates an additional problem of sacrificing either adrenaline or a repair kit

[plucky summit]

Yes lemme have no weaknesses for a while and be balanced :p

[shy laurel]

How so?

[misty wing]

no tank ever needed CS except arguably T49 and hesh tanks

[thorny smelt]

How come this guy can message in this server? I'm confused....

[rigid thunder]

its pen is more than fine

[misty wing]

I still think wargaming should've slightly buffed the mobility of the tanks that needed it, rather than give them super speed boost

[shy laurel]

Until now it was kind of meh to me
Which is why I used CS

[misty wing]

tanks having poor mobility most of the time but actually good mobility (especially in reverse) with speed boost active causes gameplay to become annoyingly unpredictable

[plucky summit]

Exactly, which is why SCs are cancer

[misty wing]

SCs as in super consumables?

[plucky summit]

Yeah, Super Conquerors are babes

[misty wing]

isn't there a super chaffee in PC too

[thorny smelt]

Yes. As well as Super Hellcat

[misty wing]

well super hellcat will be in blitz relatively soon

[thorny smelt]

Yessssssss

[spring hull]

Is the Krupp Waffentragger worth grinding for

[umbral hamlet]

yes but there's no point grinding the Sheridan, just go for t57 only, the line and the grind are much better

[mortal saffron]

1. T32 is the best of them for reasons.
2. Half of them are bloody trash, even in general sense.

[thorny smelt]

KV-5: 🤔

[scarlet kernel]

They all are not for me,
Tier 8 is IMO have the worst single shot 105mm gun heavy tank excluding premium and autoloaders

[mortal saffron]

Um, that English makes no sense to me.

[scarlet kernel]

"They are all not for me
Tier 8 is In My Opinion, have the worst single shot heavy tank with 105mm guns, except for the premiums and autoloaders"

[mortal saffron]

That's basically the same thing except you wrote the full form of imo

[scarlet kernel]

What part makes no sense to you?

[mortal saffron]

None of it, other than the imo part.

[scarlet kernel]

Now you're making no sense to me

[mortal saffron]

Oh jolly, convo won't continue then.

[scarlet kernel]

Do i have to simplify it again?

Me no like tier 8 tech tree heavy tank with 105mm gun unless if it is an autoloader

[mortal saffron]

Well that makes sense... And is also understandable.

[wise moth]

You should always be running rammer

[jaunty sluice]

We need T72 (first model) as a Collector tank, or at least T64

[shy laurel]

That is a bit confusing
Especially with tanks that are severely lacking in penetration, the T49 springs to mind

[winter basalt]

So I got the Centurion Mk 5/1 from a snowglobe, and I have been loving it. The low alpha is the only downside. Any tech tree lines that would have the good gun depression, accuracy and pen with a solid turret?

[scarlet kernel]

Not sure about the lines, but i guess E50M would be good, great armor with a good accuracy

I have an IDEA!

What if, there is a premium tank but, it gets the same credit coef as a tech tree tank. But you will get free exp with the same number as your combat exp

[shy laurel]

If I was to run rammer, wouldn't that make the Kpf even more of a medium rather than a heavy?
Is it meant to be a medium or a heavy?

[broken parrot]

sowejt tank have verry bad am

[sage sigil]

Is worth keeping the tanks that the game gived them free?Speaking about the Pz.S35 and the BT-SV because I don't see myself spending gold for free xp

[desert gale]

Should I research sherman or leopard

[solid gate]

😐

[copper swan]

lol

[solid gate]

😢

[violet timber]

The first two are right, but other than that it’s just the Patton and T-22. Meds really aren’t meta right now, especially with the T-100LT running around

[strange thicket]

nah 121 is good
def not meta but very good

[violet timber]

Eh, it’s just a worse 113 tbh

[strange thicket]

heavily disagree

[civic relic]

They're two different tanks though.

Hmm, T49 looks like a fun tank, but the HEAT pen on the 152 looks like a giant letdown

[strange thicket]

it is supposed to be like that
use your mobility
and splash with HESH if flanking is not possible

[civic relic]

The HE on it looks like a letdown to

Why only 700 damage

[violet timber]

You can deal half the damage of any tier 8 light or med in one shot

[strange thicket]

alright
propose fixes to the tank so it is not a let down

[civic relic]

900 HE damage and 80 mm HE pen

And 180 mm HEAT pen

[brave night]

Just give 560 alpha guns 780 HE alpha

[strange thicket]

ah yes
on a tank that goes 60+
very balanced

it is almost as if it has great mobility and light tank camo
it is a hit and run tank
you flank, shoot , run.
can't flank? splash and relocate

[civic relic]

Ngl these would be better suited for Sheridan if it had the T49 gun like on PC

[brave night]

I kinda want the option of a 105 gun on the sheridan for more dpm/accuracy

[strange thicket]

inferior vickers

[brave night]

I mean adds some variety

Plus wargaming put vickers out of business anyway

[strange thicket]

it is gonna be another vickers/100LT but worse
how is that more variety than the hit and run playstyle which is unique to it

[brave night]

Look it’s just an option if you want to change it up, I’m not deciding the fate of the Sheridan

[strange thicket]

i am not saying you are doing that lol
just debating back

[hollow notch]

Lol
T49 buffs
Yes please, I need 80% in mine

[blissful igloo]

Would be cool a gun same as the T92E1 stock...

[strange thicket]

??

[blissful igloo]

One more guy for the bad boy, why no?

[hollow notch]

The t49 is a tank with very abusable characteristics for skilled players.

If you try to noobproof it, it will need to have something taken away to not be completely broken in the hands of a skilled player.

[blissful igloo]

Some tanks need derp guns back, like the panzer 4 and Sherman!!!

[past crane]

I don’t get why they removed the derp guns, then make the Pz IV Gargoyle. If they can do that then they should just add back the derps. Just give them worse RoF or something.

[signal ginkgo]

A new tier VII premium?

[runic cloud]

That is variety

[strange thicket]

literally the opposite

[runic cloud]

The Sheridan's profile makes up for the hypothetical similar gun

[strange thicket]

it doesn't add more to the variety of the game
it is gonna be another inferior vickers

[runic cloud]

What do you count as an inferior Vickers

[strange thicket]

doesn't have the same kind of armor
no hesh
just as fast
lower view range

[runic cloud]

What is the T-100 then, just curious

[strange thicket]

T-100 doesn't play the same
doesn't have 10 degrees of gun depression
also the t-100 is ridiculously small and flat making it troll and insanely fast with good dpm.
i have no idea where you are trying to get at
be it 100lt or vickers you are comparing to, a sheridan with 105mm isn't more variety. what is variety is what we already have. a 152mm light

[runic cloud]

Alright, thank you for your reasoning, I see that you are correct in saying that what we have is already variety, thank you again

[crystal hare]

I like the t54 ltwt, how close does the t100lt play to it?

[violet timber]

Pretty closely imo

[tough steeple]

aww man. when did they super nerf jpanther 2

From 55 speed to 27...

[plucky summit]

I highly doubt that

[violet timber]

They didn’t lol

It’s at 50kph right now, still plenty to drift around shooting tanks

[tough steeple]

Oh okay

[misty wing]

where tf did you get info that it got nerfed the 27

[tough steeple]

i looked at it, and it wont go over 30

[misty wing]

then yours is stock/bad crew and you're going uphill with a dead driver

[icy grove]

Lmao

[tough steeple]

lol im stupid

i looked at average speed...

[plucky summit]

💀

[tough steeple]

It shouldnt say average speed imo. Like if u have 65 forward speed and 5 backwards its cut to 35

[humble lotus]

How is the British Medium line to grind for someone that is somewhat new, just at 1k battles?

[crystal hare]

Don’t

Much better off grinding the Chinese meds,

@humble lotus

[kind bluff]

The most friendly line for new players is still the Russian line

[strange thicket]

don't grind either of those
E50M is the most noob friendly medium tank
and is actually the meta medium rn

[plucky summit]

60TP’s line is close

[crystal hare]

Chinese meds are good wdym

[strange thicket]

they are, but they aren't noob friendly

[kind bluff]

The grind to the E50 is not very forgiving though

[humble lotus]

It tried the Chinese mediums and couldn't quite get into them

[strange thicket]

how come
only thing that sticks out would probably be the panther 2

[humble lotus]

I like the british dpm

[kind bluff]

You have to play aggressively to play effectively because of low alpha and somewhat eh armor

—> E50 is really meh

E50M is right now a monster but unless you know how to use ur free exp frugally It’s best to thing about the stock grinds

[humble lotus]

E50 meh

[crystal hare]

Dpm isn’t everything

[humble lotus]

No alpha helps, but I like high dpm over alpha

[crystal hare]

Brit meds would be good if they had mobility, but they don’t

[kind bluff]

Meaning that you’ll have to expose yourself more and be at the front of the fight

[kind bluff]

Mobility got buffed so it’s okay now

[crystal hare]

Chinese meds let you take a slower peekaboom strat then dpm farming

[kind bluff]

But it also reverses what you know about medium/light tanks

[crystal hare]

I personally love them, wz120 is trash stock tho

[crystal hare]

Not exactly, you should still switch positions often and flee from engagements you can’t win

[kind bluff]

that’s a given for any tank

[crystal hare]

More alpha=more support for your team

[kind bluff]

What equipment do u run on the 121

[crystal hare]

Don’t have it yet

[kind bluff]

bruh

[crystal hare]

It plays a lot like the t34-2 tho

[kind bluff]

121 can play ridges and can brawl
34-2 can only play second line and nothing else

[crystal hare]

I brawl with the 34-2 all the time

[kind bluff]

Can u win against a 252u

[crystal hare]

Depends on the skill of the 252u

[kind bluff]

So no
34-2 doesn’t have dpm to brawl effectively

[crystal hare]

Only in certain situations, why the 34-2 takes big brains to play.

[kind bluff]

so if the line takes a lot of effort to maximize its potential then it’s best not to suggest it to a new player

[crystal hare]

Well yes, but learning it doesn’t take much time.
What lines are you grinding atm?

[kind bluff]

technically none

[crystal hare]

What tens do you have then?

[kind bluff]

All of them except the Chinese TD and the two latest ones

[crystal hare]

Dang I just have the IS-4 and the 50B

[kind bluff]

IS-4 is good but mostly outclassed by 60TP
50b is one of the most rewarding tanks in the game but also one of the most punishing

[crystal hare]

I agree, tho the 60tp is the baby of an is-7 and an E-100

[kind bluff]

But that’s what most situations require - a mix of the two

[crystal hare]

Ammorack

I’d rather play a tank that’s hard to play and fun when it works than play the best tank and be bored

[thorny smelt]

It's more of IS-4 with 15 cm gun and weak ammo rack

[crystal hare]

Basically

[brittle gate]

If the t100lt doesn't get nerfed to hell I am Quittung this game

I am not playing against a lil trash tank with 3500dmp that has effectivly more armor than my 60tp

[violet timber]

You know what that sounds like? A skill issue.

[runic cloud]

Hehe skill issue point irrelevant

[kind bluff]

Lol this guy 100% got circled in his 60TP by an LT and finally got his crosshairs lined up just to bounce

[runic cloud]

Better yet he missed

[strange thicket]

have you played them recently?
they are very good right now especially after the mobility buff
centurion 7/1 is just 😋

[crystal hare]

No, stopped at the firefly

[knotty flint]

is there no way of getting the spark as of now? (czechoslovakian collector tank)

[kind bluff]

No

[thorny smelt]

It's battle pass tank so you cannot get it

[knotty flint]

aight thanks

[solid gate]

i sell all my tier 10s i hate tier 10 😠

guys should i just restore my wz 111 a5 or i buy tank bundle ..

[thorny smelt]

One question: Why?

[scarlet kernel]

Accurate tier X gun tank list

T62A (most accurate)
Leopard 1 (most dpm)
Grille 15 (highest caliber)
E50M (best armor)

[silent pivot]

Is the fv 201 (A45) good
I have enough gold to buy it

[frail dagger]

grille 15 highest calibre..?
all soviet tds: 152mm
american tds: 155mm
british: 183mm
german jag: 170mm

[tepid geyser]

Grille is 150 iirc

[frail dagger]

which is much lower then alot of other tanks

[tepid geyser]

Jg E100 is 170

Caliber isn’t everything though, grille has the dpm advantage on most of the other tier ten tds

[frail dagger]

what i said ^

and yea but thats not the point, caliber is something else

[thorny smelt]

Ho-Ri: Where should I belong then?

[misty wing]

I think the name is 149mm but it counts as a 150mm in game lul

[scarlet kernel]

Bruh, "accurate tier X gun tank list"

With that context, the grille have the highest caliber out of the other accurate tanks in the list

[frail dagger]

the jage100? quite accurate

[modest solar]

Is there a tank where you just angle the hull without terrain, cover, wall and completely expose but impenetrable?

[frail dagger]

depends on the enemy

[feral hemlock]

how can i compare tank specs

[frail dagger]

blitz hangar, tanks.gg, blitzstars

[feral hemlock]

Thnx u mate

[misty wing]

closest is the maus

[modest solar]

Hmm if only the lower part aren't hard to hide

[civic relic]

I remember, back when is7 still had that weak ammorack

I join a training room where people try to ammorack the is7

I once did it with two shots, it was hilarious, ah good times

[scarlet kernel]

I have to apologize for late reply cause of my connection, and also sorry if this may sound rude but i almost litterally facepalm myself

Every tank i put on that list have 0.272 dispersion. You see? the most accurate

What does the jagd get? 0.317

[misty wing]

if they all have the same dispersion then why would you label the t-62a as the "most accurate"

[scarlet kernel]

The most accurate at the top, i meant as it's dispersion

Then i look at other characteristic. Such as aim time, dispersion while moving etc

The T62A have the best out of them in terms of those other factors

[misty wing]

then it has the best gun handling, not the best accuracy

[thorny smelt]

https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/

[scarlet kernel]

I mean... I determine good gun handling = better accuracy?

[misty wing]

accuracy in this game usually refers to just the dispersion

[weak sparrow]

jp2 or the bull

[scarlet kernel]

Only you and some other people refer to that.... I look at aim time, dispersion factors, and dispersion to determine if a tank is accurate or not

Let me change it then

List of tier X tanks with 0.272 dispersion

T62A (most accurate)
Grille 15 (biggest caliber)
Leopard 1 (highest DPM)
E50M (best armor)

[proud crag]

your weekly reminder that bromwell can penetrate itself

[violet remnant]

This is what mode aded we probably see when strv 103 comes to blitz

[lyric copper]

devs have already said they won’t implement it

[civic relic]

I tried doing the drive mode in Stug III G by locking the gun in 0 deg using PC free look

Didnt go too well

[misty wing]

what are the top 3 least played lines in the game

[civic relic]

FV215b line

[misty wing]

they wont implement strv 103b or they wont implement the mechanics?

[lyric copper]

the mechanics

[misty wing]

that's literally impossible
the tank can't move its gun up and down or from left to right without the hydropneumatic suspension

[civic relic]

lets just say, a tank going up and down is probably gonna burn a lot of people's devices

[misty wing]

we already have that with dynamic suspensions

[umbral hamlet]

the whole point of the 103b is that mechanic, because without it it's just completely OP

so probably we won't see them for now, but i heard that they're testing the special suspensions on the stb1 in the close test

[civic relic]

you mean UP, because without it has 0 deg gun depression and elevation...

[misty wing]

and 0 gun arc

ngl swedish TDs look super unappealing to me
out of all the PC lines not yet added into blitz, that's the one I'm least hyped her

I cannot win a single battle in the WZ-111G FT jesus

[thorny smelt]

How? The only thing I know is lock hull mode

[civic relic]

In PC, using free look is way easier than on mobile

So I tried to lock the hull and gun altogether by using that feature

[thorny smelt]

Sorry. I'm a bit confused. Are you referring to Blitz or WOT PC?

[civic relic]

Using PC in wotblitz

[thorny smelt]

Oh alright

[hushed dust]

I quit T95 and going for Chinese TD

[scarlet kernel]

So my toughts on the ISU-130
It's basically SU-100Y on tier 8, but the zoomin gremlin version

I can't show my statistic, because apparently the tank gave me bad luck and match me up with a dummy team

[scarlet kernel]

I just realised the FV4005 carries 90 shell...

I've been playing it a lot and not even once i though "man that's a lot"

[shy laurel]

Is the Kpf more of a medium? Just a very high alpha medium?

[scarlet kernel]

Kinda, but it have a not so good traverse speed

[violet timber]

Yeah pretty much

[thorny smelt]

It's a MBT. WG designates it as a heavy even though it has the armor of a medium, and IRL, its max speed is 69 kmph.

[shy laurel]

So I just go to the med side and just pretend it's a medium?

[thorny smelt]

More of a support heavy tank

[violet timber]

Hull down on the heavy flank

[shy laurel]

ah, okay, thank you

[thorny smelt]

Always face the enemy

[distant nymph]

Any tips regarding the T-44? I used to love it, but since I got the upgraded 100mm I've been failing hard and realised what it is - a slow, unarmored medium with low DPM and mediocre damage output, which albeit having a low profile is terrible at hull down (not because of the gun depression I can work that) but the paper turret

It gets beaten by the T-54 Light any day of the week, not even talking about the meta mediums like the progetto, pantera, panther or pershing

[trail orchid]

That's one tank that needs a buff imo ,seems to have been forgotten while a loads of other meds have been buffed in areas

[distant nymph]

yea would agree, but what to buff - DPM or armor? Maybe mobility? Or just two of these

[pliant pike]

Buy BC or Leopard PT A?

[violet timber]

Sell it and go down the ltwt line

[mortal saffron]

Clearly you need to start loving a new tank, that's the best tip you can at this point.

[distant nymph]

I actually think that is a good idea (even though grindiing 380k in the ltwt sounds...yea)

[violet timber]

The ltwt is just better than the T-44

[hollow notch]

Gun depression though

[violet timber]

It’s kinda disappointing, but you have the mobility to make up for it

[tired lark]

ia is4 still relevant? it still seems to be a hard pen for the enemy

[shell robin]

i don't think it's ever been irrelevant, and more so that it's greatly overshadowed by it's brother, the IS-7

[past crane]

My 2 cents, but I love the T-44 more than the T-54 ltwt.
Deal with it.

[tired lark]

what do u mean

is7 isnt better

[violet timber]

IS-7 is better than the IS-4

[plucky summit]

It most definitely is.

[solid gate]

Should I go E3 line or Kranvagn line?

[trail orchid]

Turret armour and DPM I reckon

[wintry orchid]

Both slow

But I’d rather not play Kran coz of 16.69 (noice) deg/s turret
Emil 2 also has that

[spring hull]

Why is the is7 better now? Did it get a buff? I stopped playing the game for a while and last time I heard is4 was superior

[shell robin]

IS-7 got a crap ton of buffs, and iirc, IS-4 either got nothing or was nerfed

[past crane]

Was going to notify it to mods but they got it ASAP

[lyric copper]

it was an armour profile rework

no buffs

[violet timber]

IS-7 got PBR which effectively buffed its armor. The IS-4 also got a small turret rotation nerf

[chilly lodge]

hello I'm new

Can you advise on what is best to choose a British tank between comet and challenger

[violet timber]

Get a tank with a really fast turret traverse and a long gun

[violet timber]

Comet.

[chilly lodge]

Ok

would you like to know how to effectively shoot high-explosive shells?@violet timber

[violet timber]

I already know

[misty wing]

something tells me he meant to ask how to effectively use them, rather than offer advice

[misty wing]

lmao I just had a guy playing a WT flame me for playing the WZ-111G FT
saying it's impossible to pen, OP gun, and medium mobility
lul

[scarlet kernel]

If there is gonna be an event where we exchange our version of the tech tree tank to PC

My vote is on our ver of the FV4005, which is basically WTF E100 in disguise

[hushed dust]

Chinese TD is OP but only some people knows the power of them

Most of them thinks Chinese TD are weak

[misty wing]

nah, the tier 10 is in a good spot rn but the rest of the line is weak

[violet timber]

That's because the Chinese tds are weak

[hushed dust]

Weak? Wtf

[real quarry]

only when Stock or in the Tier 6 do the Chinese TDs feel actually "weak" from how Ive played them

[violet timber]

The tier 10 is almost a 268. It has almost as much pen, almost as much accuracy, almost as much gun depression, almost as much mobility, it's just weaker

[hushed dust]

Chinese TD in tier 6 really is weak but after that, they're not

[hushed dust]

Maybe I played differently

[violet timber]

They're like an ISU-152, but without the godlike gun

[misty wing]

Tier 6: kinda sluggish despite being based on a light tank, no armor, frequent module damage, long aim time
Tier 7: horrific gun handling, slightly sluggish for how bad the armor is (it's slower than pretty much every med in its tier)
Tier 8: pretty good, but suffers from very low HP like most tier 8 TDs
Tier 9: suuuuper long reload, armor becomes butter to gold shells, sluggish
Tier 10: basically worse 268

why are yall hating on the tier 6, the tier 7 is easily the worst in the line

[violet timber]

The one with the 130 is the best of the line imo

[misty wing]

the tier 8 yeah, I enjoyed that one
the tier 7 even has the worst winrate of the bunch, so...

and it has a lower hall of fame damage record than the tier 6

one of the worst tanks I've ever played ngl

[feral hemlock]

Friends super conqueror is good?

[plucky summit]

Yes

[violet timber]

Yes

[civic relic]

and hes playing a tank that also has those characteristics save for the impossible to pen one

[spark basin]

funny irony

[misty wing]

WZ doesn't have those characteristics though

[civic relic]

i meant the wt

[slim phoenix]

i know WG hasn’t said anything about this, but when do people think we will get another chance to obtain the sheridan missile, if ever?

[fast compass]

My guess would be April. When they mark the day first man to go to space

[slim phoenix]

why would they use the sheridan missile to commemorate that event?

[hushed dust]

Like I said, I played Chinese TDs different than the others

[misty wing]

how do you know that

[hushed dust]

My main is TD so I specialize in TD

Of course I know

[violet timber]

Tds aren’t that hard to use tbh

[fast compass]

Wg tends to attribute certain tanks to certain events/settings and so on. We have German bulldog, fcm, progetto as mascots of twister cup and blitz cup. The same way Sheridan missile is directly linked to gravity mode, and as an extension the first man in space(since wg seems to like that particular event)

[misty wing]

I meant how do you know you're playing differently from other people

like you certainly dont know how I play, we're on different servers

[violet timber]

The Chinese tds are almost copies of the high alpha Russian td line, I don’t really see how playing them a separate way would be more effective tbh

[hushed dust]

Everyone play different when you know what they are going to do next

[violet timber]

So you play the game like anyone with half a brain?

[hushed dust]

No

[violet timber]

So you don’t predict the enemies movements and move accordingly to punish them?

[hushed dust]

Anyways, I stopped playing TD after the update

[hushed dust]

Something like that, I only predict enemy LT movements

[misty wing]

god playing the 268 feels like a breath of fresh air after grinding the 111 FT

[violet timber]

Huh. Interesting. Not sure how you play any differently from anyone else then

[hushed dust]

LT is the worse when I use TD in the battle

[violet timber]

Only if the LT knows what they’re doing. Usually LT drivers are… less knowledgeable than they should be

[hushed dust]

Different strategy I guess

[violet timber]

Sounds to me like you play like the average player in a td

[hushed dust]

Possibly

Now I only have T110E4 TD line, I sold the Chinese TD and went for the Chinese MT

[misty wing]

then why do you keep insisting that you play differently from others

[slim phoenix]

i didn’t know that, thank you. but why is sheridan missile linked to gravity mode, i don’t see any strong connection there? also the tanks you mentioned don’t even sound to me like they’d be particularly strong when used in tournaments

[fast compass]

Not entirely sure why. When gravity mode was first introduced, Sheridan was very fun(probably a favorite in the community despite the backlash of atgms or atleast that's what wg wanted to portray). Very light tank with an overpowered engine with reduced gravity was an instant hit. They keep putting Sheridan in gravity promo art. It is even in the gravity mode progressive avatar.

So Sheridan missile was a by product of the backlash. Sheridan missile is only playable in special modes, hence it makes some sense to promote it for at least one special gamemode

[proud crag]

spaghetto 46 playstyle matches with the tech tree playstyle?

[slim phoenix]

i appreciate the detailed explanation, looks like this game’s deep history stretches further back than i realized @fast compass

[slim phoenix]

you mean the italian medium line? somewhat, but the tier 8 and stock tier 9 don’t have an autoreloader, which makes quite a substantial difference

[proud crag]

tier 8 has an autoreloader tho

[slim phoenix]

my bad, i’ve never actually researched that branch so i’d forgotten that the standard b had an autoloading gun

[proud crag]

the tier 8 is pantera with a stock autoloader i think? and the top gun is autoreloader, the tier 9 standard b same story stock is autoloader top is autoreloader. now here comes the problem, unlike every other autoreloader the pantera actually loses dpm for emptying magazine so you need to only shoot your first shell to maintain highest possible dpm

[slim phoenix]

Autoreloaders in WoT PC work other way - shooting the first shell only provides much higher DPM.
First of all, WoT PC and WoT Blitz are different games - let's not compare tanks' parameters. We adapt autoreloaders' clip cooldown to Blitz dynamics and battle duration.
p44 mounts an autoreloader as its best module

[proud crag]

yes, the pantera's autoreloader works like WoT PC instead of blitz

[slim phoenix]

imo that’s how it should be

[proud crag]

well the autoreloaders work in blitz is best, it's much simpler and fits the game. or else autoreloaders will be way more complex compared to other tanks

[mortal saffron]

Question, why does Obj.140 exist when T-62A is already there? 🗿

[slim phoenix]

btw its stock gun is one-shot

[slim phoenix]

not really, because right now every player is automatically going to dump out their clip if they can, instead of waiting, since it causes more damage and leads to a greater amount of dpm. but if you add some sort of incentive to leave your gun half-full, then some of them might actually decide to hold back instead. in my view, that’s the true spirit of an autoreloading gun

[proud crag]

Then bad players will perform even worse, because they will still dump their clip regardless

[slim phoenix]

you could ask the same for the LTG and LTTB or quite frankly the ru251 german light tank, t54 ltwt, and t49 at tier 8 because all of those were brought into this game back before light tanks were intended for a suitable above tier 10 many years ago, in fact

[brazen holly]

@calm inlet
Fake nitro cringe

[strange thicket]

ru 251 and ltwt are not comparable
and the t49 does not even compare to either of them

[strange thicket]

both tanks aren't even the same, obj.140 is more mobile and has a better ufp. basically more of a brawler
the t62a is a hulldown medium

[willow seal]

I don't see how that's our problem lmao.
It's not hard to learn that 1 good, 3 bad

[nimble topaz]

What is the best LT in the game?

T100??

[pine jolt]

Wouldn’t know I only got LTG

[umbral hamlet]

t100 if u are a skilled player, but vickers is much more noob friendly

[proud crag]

in asia, adults dont play video games. i think this statement here is enough for you to understand

[proud crag]

sheridan perhaps or vickers

[willow seal]

And what counts as an adult? 30yo? 20yo? 15yo?
I played this game since I was 16 and I could figure out such basics.
Or are we just gonna raise a generation incapable of thinking without someone else doing everything for them?

[strange thicket]

that is easily very wrong but go off

[violet timber]

Either 100LT or Vickers, Sheri is okay

[rigid thunder]

source: trust me bro?

[thorny smelt]

Excuse me?

[proud crag]

source: i am asian

[proud crag]

All i meant is that here most adults dont play games and most gamers are either teens or kids aged below 12, now i dont expect kids at such young age to be good at games

source? i live in asia...

[rigid thunder]

not the only asian source here

[proud crag]

yeah, yall do you. i wont argue

[proud crag]

cant confirm i dont have either

[violet timber]

You don’t really have to confirm

[proud crag]

yeah vickers been meta since release

[thorny smelt]

I'm 23 (24 this year) and my boss is in his 40s and we still play games like Blitz.