vehicles-discussion

[jagged spruce]

is t 10 mi yoh worth it?

[gloomy rune]

Depends. All tier10 are worth it in my opinion. Because it marks the end of ones journey

[violet timber]

Tier 10 yoh has a bid for the best tank in the game right now, yes it’s worth it

[gloomy rune]

Honestly u ain’t too wrong. It’s good even in the wrong hands. Hulldown meta sucks man

[wise moth]

It’s not even a matter of hulldown meta. It’s the the Yoh in particular is toxic to the meta because it’s a hulldown autoloader with DPM. The usual trade off for having an autoloader is that while you can quickly deal damage, the enemy is able to quickly deal damage back to you due to lack of armor. The YoH can quickly deal damage to you, but you can’t retaliate which is what makes it stupid. 2nd highest heavy DPM just makes matters all the worse

[gloomy rune]

Well that’s for yoh 3 clip. Honestly the 450 feels more powerful but the 300 clip is more versatile

[wise moth]

I like the big gun more for pubs too, but the big issue remains that the Yoh is an armored autoloader

[gloomy rune]

Kran but better.
<@&481447501690568709>

[steady loom]

Disagree. I found the Yoh turret gets penned fairly easily by a competant player.

[wise moth]

It’s not invincible, but it takes a significant amount of time to aim the shot. At the minimum, he’ll get 2 shells out on either gun before you can do anything about it

[steady loom]

Not denying the yoh isnt strong. It is. But is it op? No not really. Sure the 105mm has a tad too much dpm and the other gun has a crazy long reload. Easy to push a yoh

[valid gale]

That goes for any autoloader though it’s easy to push anything that has to reload for 20 seconds

[wise moth]

It’s not. The YoH fundamentally shifts the balance towards the defender.

In any given fight, the defender’s advantage is that he gets the first shot(s) out as the attacker approaches.

Normal paper autoloaders like 50b, TVP, Bat Chat are not good defending tanks because even though they can front load damage as the attacker approaches, they can easily be shot back by an attacker on the move.

Most armored tanks are single shooters like the IS-7 and IS-4. They’ll hit one shot on the attacker for ~400 or so as they get pushed, but that first shot will be free.

The Yoh is toxic because it has the front loading firepower of a normal autoloader and will punish quickly an approach for 900 without the attacker being able to return fire like they can against a normal autoloader

[gloomy rune]

And the yoh has an oddly shaped turret to its benefit

[steady loom]

Idk mate. I rarely see yohs doing well. Akin to the poor quality of player atm.

You could say a lot of tanks at the hands of good players could be considering toxic

[hard cedar]

Bad player ≠ bad tank

[violet timber]

For instance I can get 3k in my STA-1. That doesn’t make it a good tank. It works the same way for bad players in good tanks.

[fast compass]

Ig we no longer need to rebalance another tank ever again. Bad players do bad in tanks. Good players do good in tanks. Complete sense. Mind blown

[warm snow]

that steel monsters bundle seems good...any thoughts? vk168 and tankenstein loaded

[hard cedar]

No

[latent meteor]

Going for FV4202.
Is Cent 7/1 worth playing? I like tier 9, but imo, Cent 7/1 isn't that great

Not sure if I should free xp or play it.

[wet prism]

Grind it but buy modules with free xp,it really is a great tank and imo better than the t10 counterpart

[latent meteor]

Really. Better than 4202? 🤨

[wintry orchid]

Most say so. Didn’t get the t10 yet coz of the new credits thing and I think I might lose a lot of credits but I liked the 7/1 however only after putting vert stabs on (most important equipment on this tank imo)
@latent meteor

[latent meteor]

Ok thx fellers

[narrow shadow]

Cent 7/1 is not bad, but it's not great either. It's selling point is the HESH, but unfortunately even with HESH, the DPM is mediocre (considering it's still HE, so any tracks or spaced armour you accidentally hit you're not going through).

[ancient iron]

how is the 168.01 P?

[slate wren]

bad

[misty wing]

only good in gravity

[silk charm]

glorified train

[jade summit]

bro, the Super Pershing needs a buff

[steady loom]

Not really, it's fine.

[jade summit]

Bro, it is slow, has awful side armor, turret has massive weak spots (top and sides), hull has enormous weakspot on the lower glacis which literally says "Shoot Me!" and it's reload can almost be matched by Tier 7 Meds. It will do okay against Tier 7, but anything with 200+ pen will spank it royally; it won't be able to outmaneuver them (slow) won't be able to out shoot them (slow reload) won't be able to sidescrape (side armor is garbage), and cannot rely on it's worthless front armor to protect it. Worse, due to it's horrible turret traverse speed, it will flounder against anything that goes faster then 30 kmh, unless it turns the full hull

the fricking VK.45.01 from tier 7 has better performance

[hard cedar]

bro, it sucks

[jade summit]

It's so pathetic that it would be better as a tier 7

[thorny smelt]

Cupolas exist for a reason. I managed to pen to cupola of M-VI-Yoh with my 50TP Prototyp. These two devil horns just poking out waiting to be penned.

[wise moth]

I already said, it's not invincible. It might not be an IS-7 that can just sit there and tank everything, but it's more than enough to bully anything that's not an IS-7 down

[nimble topaz]

Hi all... I just bought the AMX M4 45... turns out its armor is so thin and smooth that it's easily penetrated even by tier 6s.... How to play that tank ? I battled 2 times with it and turns out no wins 😦 only defeats 😦 give tips on how to play that tier 7 tank pls. 😄

[thorny smelt]

I haven't grind down the Yoh line but I might go for it since it is meta. M-VII-Yoh is the meh tank for me.

[wise moth]

Yeah, the M4 45 is super bad. All you can really do is just be sort of a pseudo medium (with poor mobility) and snipe or take shots of opportunity

[nimble topaz]

is AMX 50 100 good ? How bout AT7 ?

[wise moth]

50 100 is pretty ok. It's pretty powercreeped tho now, especially after the rebalance robbed it of its mobility niche. That said, the autoloading firepower is still nice.

AT-7 I'm not sure about; it's gotten a lot of buffs, so with 3.2k DPM and the relatively recent armor buffs, it might actually not be that bad, but I'm not sure

[jade summit]

You gotta peek a ton, try not to go out into the open. It's got a high rate of fire (unlike the SuperPershing, which is beyond redeemable), and a decent gun. The French heavy line puts speed above armor

[misty wing]

I played the at 7 before the buffs and thought it was okay. It's definitely better tier for tier than the at8

[nimble topaz]

what are the weakspots (spots that arent marked red i guess) of 50 100?

[wise moth]

The entire tank (although the turret ring is decently armored now)

[nimble topaz]

ohh 😦

[wise moth]

By the way, the entire line is gonna be like that, so if having no armor is a deal breaker for you, then French heavies might not be the line for you. The tradeoff is basically having no armor in exchange for firepower and mobility

[nimble topaz]

so arl 44 and bdr g1 b are the best tanks for its tier.. sad 😦

[steady loom]

I disagree with the super pershing. It's fine. Take it to a ridgeline and use the gun depression.

[misty wing]

the 50b is probably the best tank in that line tier for tier

[wise moth]

No, super pershing is garbage. It's slow, the turret is not that good, and the gun is terrible

[misty wing]

which tier 10 differs the most from its tier 9 counterpart in playstyle, aside from the tortoise > 183

[nimble topaz]

is the front armor of 50b enough to block damage ?

[misty wing]

The front hull is quite strong, but the turret is weak, and the sides can be penned with HE

[nimble topaz]

sheesh... not good armor 😦

[steady loom]

The super pershing has an above 50% average win rate, trust me it's fine.

[nimble topaz]

is fv215b good ?

[misty wing]

If armor is what you're looking for, grind a german or soviet heavy line, or the 60tp

[nimble topaz]

which is a better line ? the KV2 line onwards or KV1S line onwards ?

[steady loom]

And the last thing tier 8 needs is something running around with medium levels of speed and heavy tank armor.

[misty wing]

The IS-7 is currently better than the IS-4, not sure about the mid tiers though

[nimble topaz]

so kv1s it is

[steady loom]

The KV3 and KV4 can be pretty monsterous if played right 😄

[misty wing]

I played the kv-3 before it was ever buffed and my god was it horrible
I'm generally not a fan of russian 122s though

[steady loom]

I run mine with the 100mm. Much more reliable for me.

[wise moth]

I see 3 candidates; M46 -> M48
JT -> Jgpz E-100
Type 61 -> STB-1

[misty wing]

what about su-122 -> 263

[steady loom]

The su 122 54 is underrated ^^

[misty wing]

Also the IS-8 -> IS-7

[plucky summit]

IS-7 was supposed to do the same thing that IS-8 did, but actually can fight heavies a lot better now

[misty wing]

I'd love it if they implemented the object 277 into the tech tree after the IS-8
but knowing the blitz side of WG, they will probably implement it as a premium

[wise moth]

I thought about that for a little, and then I decided that they're closer than they look. They're both pike nosed Soviet heavies with decent turrets that go fast, made for aggressive hulldown play. Admittedly after the recent buffs, the resemblance is fading now that IS-7 is so much harder to pen, but I figured they were still sorta close

[misty wing]

actually
what about wz 111 1-4 -> 113
As droodles said, the only tier 10 that loses alpha from its tier 9 counterpart
113 also loses that pike nose

[plucky summit]

They still be the unreliable armored good gun monsters they are

[misty wing]

"good gun bad armor" is pretty much where the similarities end though
especially since the "goodness" of their guns is based on different traits

[wise moth]

Speed, tough turret with the similar levels of strength, and not exactly stellar hull armor

[misty wing]

the latter two are just elaborating on "unreliable armor" but speed yeah

they're more different than the IS-7 and 8 though I'd say

any tier 10 that got swapped out of their tech tree for something else in PC is a contender for most different from tier 9 I'd say

[wise moth]

Not really, I kinda think that they're about equidistant. The gun differences are the same between IS-8/IS-7 and 111 1-4/113; just reversed. 113 and T-10 are both 122mm DPM oriented heavies, and IS-7/111 1-4 are 130mm alpha oriented heavies

[severe spear]

idk why u guys are praising is7 so much its such a garbage tank, but what needs a buff is the t34 2

[misty wing]

the reversed factor is important though because the step up from IS-8 to IS-7 is merely something that goes along with a tier increase, whereas the step down for the chinese reflects a different playstyle

[zealous anchor]

lol is7 garbage..?

[thorny smelt]

KV-4's 107 mm ZiS-24 gun is what fits for this tank. Good pen at 227 mm AP pen in exchange for classic USSR 400 damage.

[wise moth]

uh.... excuse me?

[misty wing]

I was talking about the kv-3 not the kv-4?

[thorny smelt]

Well 107 mm ZiS gun on KV-3 is also good. I want more shells to shoot at since KV-3 has some good armor.

[steady loom]

Imagine calling the is7 garbage XD

[nimble topaz]

bruh

amx 50b kinda weakly armored lol

[misty wing]

yes, it's kinda what the french are known for

[plucky summit]

It's 30mm in Blitz

[steady loom]

The 50b front plate on the hull is troll though. 😄

[plucky summit]

Too bad it has badly angled 50mm plates on the sides, as well as a cardboard turret

[steady loom]

Well the 50b was never known for its armor right? 😛

I consider it more of a heavium myself. It's good for supporting meds I find.

[violet timber]

I usually consider it more of a med with lots of health

[steady loom]

Then again i like the t95e6. So i'm wierd.

[thorny smelt]

AMX M4 54 is the opposite

[plucky summit]

And I'm happy for that

[jade summit]

I like the VK.45.03 Tier 7 Heavy

I have a 57% WR in it compared to the mediocre 46% WR in the SuperPershing

[plucky summit]

VK 45.03....

;)

[jade summit]

sorry, I forgor
Yeah, the turret armor is great
bruh

[plucky summit]

But yeah, it got a sweet buff

[jade summit]

The turret is thicc now

[plucky summit]

Yup, but still falls apart, unfortunately

[jade summit]

It's also faster and more agile then the Super Pershing

[plucky summit]

Oh the SPershing is just plain bad lol

[jade summit]

I took one down with an ARL 44 once lol

[plucky summit]

Yeah ARL 44 stays cracked

[jade summit]

platoon glitch

[plucky summit]

You mean a failtoon?
It's not a glitch

[violet timber]

It's a feature ;)

[jade summit]

Opinions on the Chimera?

[violet timber]

Needs a nerf

[jade summit]

It's hella funni seeing such a big boi go so fast

[steady loom]

Fun tank.

[nimble topaz]

which is better ?
IS or KV 3?
IS3 or KV4 ?
IS8 or ST1 ?
IS7 or IS4 ?

answer me pls 😄

[steady loom]

Both lines are fine

Generally the KV line has more armor and the is line better speed

[hard cedar]

Is7 line superior

[onyx sluice]

IS-4 line is better.

[misty wing]

IS-4 better line but the is-7 itself is better

[nimble topaz]

oh okay 🙂 IS4 it is then

lol AMX M4 45 has 100mm armor on its front hull armor 😦

weakly armored lol sad

[hard cedar]

is7 line is lowkey better kv3&4 suck

[misty wing]

IS and IS-3 also suck nowadays

[nimble topaz]

so I checked their stats and the only thing that is good in IS7 is its speed i guess ? is4 has better rate of fire... and slight difference with their penetration and damage....

[valid gale]

Never check the wg website for stats

[nimble topaz]

why ?

[onyx sluice]

IS-7 only became "better" because of the PBR, the IS-4 will be reworked too.

[misty wing]

You act like PBR will automatically do to the IS-4 what it did to the IS-7 lol
It could get weaker for all we know

[valid gale]

Horrifically inaccurate and even outdated on some is4 can butter through anything but is7 is now more protected than is4 and has higher alpha

[nimble topaz]

what is the meaning of PBR ?

[misty wing]

Physics-based Rendering, it's basically the HD graphics from PC

[onyx sluice]

Don't think so, they are making the models closer to PC and IS-4 is quite good there.

Also the IS-4 has the benefit of not having the pike nose already and has amazing pen. IS-7 only has troll side armor and better speed.

[misty wing]

My prediction is the IS-4 will stay relatively the same when it gets PBR. And the IS-4 is definitely worse in PC than it is on blitz, so the chances on it getting stronger are very low

[nimble topaz]

NOOOOO.... I have my third fight with my AMX M4 45 in wotb a few secs. ago..... Still I DIDNT win 😦 Why is this tank weakly armored?!?!?! 😦

[misty wing]

Play it like a medium lol, try to position yourself where the enemy can't shoot you or isn't looking at you

[thorny smelt]

Skill Issue

[misty wing]

don't expect to bounce anything in AMX tanks

[nimble topaz]

k

[past crane]

Are you sure? Both of them are pretty good. I’d say the IS3 has been powercrept a bit but it’s still a solid vehicle.

[nimble topaz]

why Himmelsdorf in WOTB is different in WOT ?? I like that map in WOT because of the hill where enemymostly goes or where I can snipe enemies 😦 Only the MINES map is the same in both WOT and WOTB lol xDD

[thorny smelt]

Then play WOT

[nimble topaz]

LOL ok

[thorny smelt]

There's Campstilla

[misty wing]

If you're used to wot, then why aren't you used to french tanks having no armor 🤔

[fast compass]

He only plays the duck ofc xD

[misty wing]

IS-3 has no hull armor, bad dpm, bad gun handling, not enough mobility or gun depression to make use of the strong turret

[fast compass]

It does have the best IS clone gun for the tier apart from the is2sh but that isn't saying much anyways.

[steady loom]

Honestly I am glad the Tiger 2 is better then the IS3 now. It's about time. Though the IS3 is still fine, nothing wrong with it.

[nimble topaz]

nah... I don't play WOT for too long... My strongest tank I think is KV2... I started playing the game few months before then stopped.... I played WOTB instead of WOT since its slowing down my pc :(( and my victory rate is too low lol 46% 😦

you can search my stats in tanks.gg
https://tanks.gg/asia/mr_foxranger

[steady loom]

The IS3 is no worst armored then any of the other tier 8 Soviet heavies.

[plucky summit]

I dunno, IS-2Sh takes the cake for me

[thorny smelt]

Why IS-M?

[misty wing]

IS-2sh just sucks, no armor and rear mounted turret on top of the other weaknesses that IS clones normally have

[misty wing]

Yeah your stats are pretty yikes, but you'll get better eventually. Probably after 5-7k games is when people normally start getting good imo

[misty wing]

what's the difference between the m60 and m48

[regal bough]

different numbers

[steady loom]

On paper the m48 has a better turret and the m60 a slightly better gun. Although I will point out the M60 is giant for a medium o.O

[misty wing]

what are the best and worst legendary camos at tier 10

[valid gale]

Worst is easily Mk6 imo

Looks like a cow

[steady loom]

There are far worst tbh.

The tvp t 50/51s camo is pretty horrible to look at.

[onyx sluice]

Best: Kran Nidhog or E100

Worst: the Barn overkill and Maus.

[drifting grove]

Best: Chieftain Mk.6 and S.Conq.
Worst: Prog 65 and Fv4005 Overkill.

[onyx sluice]

I wish you could get animated camos without gambling on crates. And WG should make animated legendary camos, they do for battlepass so why not for tier 10?

[nimble topaz]

wdym by buffs in wotb ? i dont get it 😦

[onyx sluice]

"Buffs" mean improving the characteristics and statistics of tanks.

For example: reducing how much time it takes to load the gun or increasing the thickness of armor.

Basically a change that makes the tank perform better.

[nimble topaz]

got it

what the best gun for AMX M4 45 ? The first one or the second... can you tell me the reload also

[misty wing]

um, idk which one's first and which one's second

[neon cloak]

whats the use of E in playing wotb reply dis

[plucky summit]

VIII, reload should be 5.47s if you have it decked out

[nimble topaz]

k

Pz. V/IV is basically a "panzer v (panther)" with a "panzer iv ausf h" turret right ? LOL

[misty wing]

Yea

[nimble topaz]

L0L

Which is stronger🧐 ?
A. FV4005 Stage II
B. FV215b 183

please type only the letter 🙂 thnx

[strange thicket]

a

[plucky summit]

A

[thorny smelt]

The 💩Barn

[scarlet kernel]

i tried the FV215B (ht) it is a good tank, love the gun. what makes it bad is just that it's not enough to carry an entire team of baboon

[nimble topaz]

lol baboon😂

[thorny smelt]

Monkeys are out! In with the baboons! What's next? Gorillas?

[misty wing]

orangutans

[thorny smelt]

Apes?

[nimble topaz]

What's the best container to open ? (Im referring to the containers with tanks as the reward... golds too i guess lol)

[onyx sluice]

None.

[misty wing]

mystery containers are actually kinda nice, I got lots of good tanks from them

[nimble topaz]

price ?

[misty wing]

like 6000 gold for 17 I think, a bit cheaper on the first purchase

[strange thicket]

it depends on your luck, i only got 1 tank from them but it was chief so it is fine

[tulip sundial]

It could be the J turret if it had the spaced armour

also i believe the H had spaced armour all the way around the back of the turret

[thorny smelt]

90 mm DCA 45

[misty wing]

@nimble topaz I recently spam bought a bunch of them, and I got an m60, badger, amx 30b, k-91, t-55a, kanonenjagdpanzer, amx defender, chi nu kai, and some other low tier stuff

they're quite nice if you just want a random premium

[thorn bloom]

Which td is stronger?
Obj. 263
Obj. 268

[drifting grove]

Obj268.

[thorn bloom]

Alr

[lyric copper]

The J had no cupola iirc

The H did so, it’s a H turret

[nimble topaz]

they say its obj. 268 🙂

[trail orchid]

Seen a few folk mention the badger ,I got it ,not played it yet ,just wondering if I should keep it or sell for the gold and wait and see what's offered over the next few weeks

[candid onyx]

is the T-62A line good?

[nimble topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbykf-GIHz8

LOL just found this

bruh

[candid onyx]

im already at t-54

[rigid thunder]

that's world of tanks, where the T-62A is honestly pretty bad

[candid onyx]

thank god its in WoT

[nimble topaz]

lol okay

[rigid thunder]

the 62a in blitz is a very strong tank for random battles so don't worry, if you still needed to know that

[candid onyx]

im going to it because of the DPM

[misty wing]

I think 62A still has 5 degrees of gun dep in PC lol

[strange thicket]

it is a collecter on PC anyway
it is replaced by the 430U

[rigid thunder]

yeah it still does, and the 430U didn't replace it, the 62a was just removed flat-out

[misty wing]

What? The 430U replaced the normal 430, not the 62A

[solid gate]

Petition WG do collab another with kunio okawara

Also it's only 2 crew

[nimble topaz]

how many HUGE CONTAINER did you guys opened/buy before you have a premium tank ?

[gloomy rune]

100. And I got it on my new alt bruh

[nimble topaz]

Wews

Are MYSTERY BOX worth it to buy?

[distant nymph]

No container is worth it

[nimble topaz]

But can you get a tank in the MYSTERY CONTAINER?

[candid onyx]

yea but its rare to get a tank

[obtuse veldt]

bruh fcm50t needs gun buff

[distant nymph]

Yes but it is not worth it. You will spend a lot of money and may get an undesirable tank

[blissful igloo]

buff KpfPz depression,in wot console it is 9 degrees

[violet timber]

It doesn’t really need it in blitz, it’s rather balanced currently

[loud verge]

heLp, the is 122mm aiming time is hell

Literally the su 152mm has better aiming time

[onyx sluice]

Other than fully kitting it out and using the proper equipment and provisions, you cannot do much about it.

[fallen heron]

"deal with it" is all i can say

[nimble spruce]

Not exactly, take the chi nu kai container. $5 crate dropping the tank or $10 worth of gold

[strange thicket]

oh, i see.

[hollow sequoia]

agree, atleast 7 or 8

[blissful igloo]

There's a lot of other tanks better than KpfPz, KpfPz is hulldown and cant hulldown because of depression, is useless in side scraping and front scraping, isn't bad, just isn't like many other tier 9 heavies

[tulip sundial]

I’m looking at pictures on documents on both of them and they look identical actually

[ancient iron]

tips for the Panzer IV S?

[gloomy rune]

Sidescrape

[violet timber]

It is rather low profile, and most situations you can get into let you use 6 degrees. Also, 560 alpha is the best on any tier 9 heavy, and it has some pretty good penetration to boot.

[woven verge]

Hi. Why wg not try to renew with pbr smaller lines first and large lines later or most premium tanks? Sounds better than do in a few tanks

[onyx sluice]

They don't do entire lines because they're making whole new models for tier 10 tanks.

[woven verge]

Yes, but i mean why not try add pbr to small or branches released in this year or last year? That's not a hard work. Models still news and it's easy add pbr to these tanks

[hard cedar]

Because wg is wg

[steady loom]

Lets be real most tier 9s are pretty meh o.O

[hard cedar]

skoda
Vickers cr
Amx 30 1er
50tp
E75
St 1
Waffle
Conway
T92
K91
Standard b
All good tanks

[steady loom]

Conway good lmao

[hard cedar]

conway is good lmao

[violet timber]

And 50TP Proto

[lyric copper]

the tank gets superconsumables and HESH

basically a MT hunter

[pallid flame]

or td

[kindred wren]

Just play it with the 120mm to look funny

[plucky summit]

<@&481447501690568709> 👍

[solid gate]

which is better gravedigger or tankenstein?

[plucky summit]

I say Tankenstein if you use the 130mm, since Gravedigger struggles to get entire clips off, and is littered with weakspots easier to hit than Tankenstein's

[solid gate]

i have the tankenstein and that one vk for some hours now and tankenstein with the 130mm feels so strong.

[near dirge]

what the fuuck is this?

[kindred wren]

A piece of a screenshot

[onyx plover]

is comet supposed to be OP?

[plucky summit]

Remove the language, trust me.

[steady loom]

Sure the conway is good. Nothing like being a huge juicy target with no armor.

Easy pickings for mediums

[hard cedar]

Skill issue

[polar gull]

xD

[nimble topaz]

worst victory boiz...

yet my first victory for this tank....

[nimble topaz]

Are Japanese tank the same as Chinese tank?🤣

images aren't mine 😄

[violet timber]

The early tanks in the Chinese tech tree are all copies of other tanks.

[steady loom]

A lot of low tier chinese tanks back in the day were copies from other nations. China didnt exacly have a tank industry of its own in the war

@hard cedar i played the conway fine thanks. Doesnt mean its good.

[nimble topaz]

yep i know... like fiat 300 and ms 1 which arent in wot but in wot lol they are copies of ft17

[hard cedar]

It is good thanks.
only real issue is turret traverse

[violet timber]

Pretty much all early tanks are either a copy of the Mk. 1 or Ft17

[nimble topaz]

have you guys tried the REALISTIC BATTLES ?

[steady loom]

It has many issues.

[violet timber]

Yup, pretty fun

[steady loom]

Realistic is fun.

Weaker tanks can become good in realistic

[violet timber]

Tanks with more armor become stronger

[steady loom]

Eh. Sure but a lot of tank weakspots are pretty obvious

Not all of course.

[violet timber]

True, but if you face something like an IS-7 and it manages to initiate a face hug, you gotta know the turret weak spots or you're done

[nimble topaz]

tiger 1.. lol ez to kill... i memorized its weakspots when using arl44... ye it has to many weak spots.. but you wont be able to penetrate them with a weak gun lolol

[steady loom]

If you get into a facehug match with an is7 its on you mostly

[violet timber]

ARL has way too much pen for it's tier. Tiger 1 is actually pretty strong over all, with armor that needs to be angled properly to work.

@steady loom Not necessarily, the IS-7 is pretty fast which lets it get to choose what it facehugs

[nimble topaz]

how to kill light tanks lol... they are sneaky

[steady loom]

Sadly the lower plate on the tiger 1 makes angling pointless

[violet timber]

They tend to have lower penetration, so just angle up to them and shoot pretty much anywhere to penetrate them

[nimble topaz]

lol

[steady loom]

At least the tiger has decent dpm and speed. I guess.

[nimble topaz]

to many peeps in this server that are from NA server lol... I want to play in a platoon with someone who is pro

[violet timber]

I have an Asia account, but only up to tier 6

[steady loom]

Eu are just as trash mate...

[nimble topaz]

sad Im in Asia server

[violet timber]

Meant Asia, I'm just really tired right now

[nimble topaz]

yo give me your player name lol... whats your tier 6 tank ?

dm me lol

[jolly spade]

What is everyone’s opinion on the FV215b 183

[violet timber]

Should stay as is.

[jolly spade]

why tho lol. It could use a little bit of a stronger turret

[violet timber]

No, it's incredibly toxic

[jolly spade]

Oh ok. I bought it in Wotb btw

[violet timber]

Snapping half a tank's health is just not balanced in any way

[jolly spade]

Eh

[violet timber]

It's getting a PBR model which does technically give it a better turret

[jolly spade]

Good xd

[wise moth]

Honestly, I would prefer that it were replaced by a 4005 with the 183mm gun (and the 45 degree gun arc and slow speed) and crazy expensive repairs/ammo

On the one hand, I do think that extra diversity in playstyle is a good thing.

On the other hand, for balance, if you can derp people, you should be able to be derped back. And make it super expensive to run so people can't just spam it

[jolly spade]

I can see why you said that

[steep canyon]

Well its really expensive to play tank

[steep canyon]

And more armor buff

[steady loom]

I get bored of fighting 183s. Sometimes you find 4 in 1 game.

[misty wing]

Maybe I should start an Asia account to play with Mr fox ranger

[vague oar]

My strategy to kill light tanks is,1-cut their legs(tracks),2-ram and take them on a fun ride into the wall or throw them off(Normandy)

[steady loom]

HE on tracks works a treat unless they have double repair kits

[gloomy rune]

Me using my at15. “You repaired your tracks? I broke them again”

[steady loom]

At15 is troll for that yes

[thorny smelt]

Action X: Heeeeeey

[nimble topaz]

lol

how to play wotb in pc ?

[hard cedar]

download from microsoft store or steam

[nimble topaz]

k

this ?

[candid onyx]

r u blind?

[nimble topaz]

bruh im asking a serious question -_-

[candid onyx]

what does it say?

[nimble topaz]

what happens if I connect my WOTB account in cp to my pc... Will it affect wotb in my phone or nope ?

[tepid geyser]

....

[tepid geyser]

it will wipe your whole account clean

[nimble topaz]

uhh... why is it not moving ? Im downloading it from Microsoft

[candid onyx]

man just wait

[tepid geyser]

this guy is really smart.

[silk charm]

the secret santa tank camo would have been nice... if it hadnt been for the unfortunate disgusting shade of green

[nimble topaz]

i see it

[tepid geyser]

wow impressive, good job.

[candid onyx]

green?

[nimble topaz]

the download is finished just rn LOL

[tepid geyser]

impressive.

[nimble topaz]

😄

POG...My account is already connected lol

[tepid geyser]

very impressve.

[silk charm]

well, combination between the blues and greens makes it look quite unappealing

[candid onyx]

agreed

[silk charm]

gonna recycle for shards then

pog just got 510 gold from a container

[vague oar]

Speed

[candid onyx]

so im grinding for the yoh tanks, just wanna ask if the first two tanks are good

[strange thicket]

nope
the tier 8 is meh and the tier 7 is uhhh yeah.
both are very meh in their respective tiers due to the existence of outrageously better counterparts.

[candid onyx]

but the tier 9 and 10 are good

[strange thicket]

yes the tier 9 is good, just don't use the 2 shot gun on it(120mm) use the 105mm instead.
and the tier 10 is good, use whichever gun you want on it though the 105mm is more competitive.

[steady loom]

Only bores use the 105mm guns on the yohs :P

[onyx sluice]

^
120 is simply better.

[safe cedar]

AMX 50 100 needs its mobility back.

[silk charm]

is third turret for is3 good

increases much-needed dispersion, ups the damage and penetration, but brings down reload time

[strange thicket]

you mean worse
i ain't waiting half a minute to shoot dawg.
that is on the tier 9 yoh
on the tier 10 just choose whichever is fun to you

[nimble topaz]

How funny... Im not used to playing in computer lol

the game loads faster and has better graphics in pc thou

[strange thicket]

it depends on your device. on IPads it is even better with the option to have 120fps

[misty wing]

Nope, it's the opposite. The tier 9 is only good with the 120mm whereas the tier 10 is good with both

[strange thicket]

you mean the tier 9 is only good with the 105mm.
if you want to wait half a minute to reload, do it lmao.

[drifting grove]

Wrong.

[misty wing]

Lol are you trolling? The 105mm is only viable on the tier 10 because it has incredible DPM with only a 13 second clip reload, making it hard to punish.
The 105mm on the tier 9 has no such advantage, with even less DPM than the 120mm

[drifting grove]

On the Tier X, the lower alpha of the 105 is rewarded with much better DPM.
Not on the Tier IX.
@misty wing Exactly!

[misty wing]

the 105mm on the tier 9 only reloads like 3 or 4 seconds faster than the 120mm lol

[strange thicket]

oh, you are correct.
my bad then.
but 28s seems like an awful lot to wait.

[misty wing]

It is, but at least you can unload 900 alpha in 1.7 seconds

[drifting grove]

Basically a 183.

[strange thicket]

the tank itself just seems way less viable now huh.

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-gif-22100868

[strange thicket]

oh it sure is not.
i don't have the tank yet

i was just looking at the stats lol.

[misty wing]

I free xp'd to the tier 10 lol

[drifting grove]

You definitely have to FXP past the stock gun, at least. 1300 DPM at Tier IX what the hell.

[strange thicket]

i used all my freexp while grinding for the obj 140.

[silk charm]

dont

[onyx sluice]

Don't fall for it guys.

[heavy slate]

wat happen

scam link?

[loud verge]

How much can I get if i sell the t-34 shielded tank

[heavy slate]

I think 135k creds

[nimble topaz]

1 10x piece of blueprint of t34s = 100,000
10 10x piece of blueprint of t34s = 1m

1 day to go (tomorrow) and t34s is mine for FREE!!! lol

[strange thicket]

just sell the blueprints

[steep canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-ratio-cancelled-twitter-cringe-gif-23133228

If i am suck at certain tank idc about skill issue

[plucky summit]

Okay well don't look for another reason you perform badly in a tank :p

[fierce hollow]

What premium tank should i aim to get?

[steep canyon]

Well i perform badly in a Chinese tanks

[plucky summit]

The Lowe is a great investment for your account, as well as a solid tank

[strange thicket]

i like how you both used the meme incorrectly lmao

[fierce hollow]

Alright thx!

[steep canyon]

I am bad at Type T-34 and up u guys might going to say......

[plucky summit]

Yes but that doesn't mean we're wrong 😳

[steep canyon]

Srsly i am suck at Chinese tanks and a t6 medium tanms

From Type T-34, Cromwells

[fierce hollow]

I dont see lowe on the shop where do i get it?

[plucky summit]

You’ll have to wait for a deal to come out, I’m sure it’s not too uncommon

[fierce hollow]

ohh i see thank u!

[plucky summit]

👍

[thorny smelt]

Probably on Lion Day like they did this year

[fierce hollow]

is the smasher containers worth getting?

[steep canyon]

No

[strange thicket]

no, the drop chance is 3%

[uncut trench]

This is unfortunate because Cromwell b is really, really broken

But it looks like you just don't like mediums. You might just be more comfortable with heavies or tds ?

[narrow shadow]

Is it? Feels like the medium tanks on that tier stand no chance with things like VK36 going around.

[uncut trench]

Yeah frontally you can't really do anything but with your mobility and your gun depression with a great dpm you can just run around as you want

The main prob now is that if you play with tier 7 like smasher or ahni then you just can't do anything

[narrow shadow]

I mean I feel this way with most medium tanks. The heavies at the tier seem to be simply better most of the time. I believe that is reflected in winrate statistics too.

[uncut trench]

I mean, i'm not a super unicum or whatever so I might be wrong but from my experience, if you only got normal players in a game the heavies will have the most impact but if you've got a med (or light,) in the hands of a good player it will be easier to carry the game so a better wr than with a heavy

Because, you usually have a better dpm and you can just run around while making sure that nobody is focusing you

And if you've got a med with some armor like t22-med it is even more op because you can do the same things and bouncing shots

[narrow shadow]

The DPM thing is not really true at tier 8 and lower. The idea is nice, but fast heavies can generally destroy medium tanks easily.

And bringing in the T22 is not really fair, seeing as it can be literally indestructible if you hold a position and nobody can push you.

The idea of flanking is nice, it's just that to me it seems that a fast heavy will often do just as good job on the flank as a medium tank.

[uncut trench]

I mean i think that you just need to find the type of tank that you like and train with it. My first tier 10 was the leo 1 with the indian pz line and stuff so since then I prefer med but i still enjoy playing heavies and more recently tds like fv badger, ho ri and skorpion g which are all really great

But for exemple, I can't play with the le kpz (the tier 8 light tank) idk why I just struggle so much

[runic cloud]

I enjoy playing the Lekepz, but I despise the bulldog

[fierce hollow]

What are good tanks for beginners? 1 tank to grind for and 1 premium tank

[violet timber]

E100 and obj 252U

[hard cedar]

Shark better

[violet timber]

Shark isn’t as brain dead as the 252

[fierce hollow]

Okk thxxx

[high anvil]

True, Shark is better once you know the hulldown spots and all but 252u probably more forgiving of newbie mistakes like showing broad side and still getting some bounces

[strange thicket]

don't get E100 as a beginner lol
just play up to the tier 9 and then look up videos on the E100 if you really wanna get it

[fierce hollow]

Wat abt obj252U?

[kindred wren]

If even the E 100 out of all tanks is not beginner friendly, what is?

[strange thicket]

yes obj is very good for beginners.
@kindred wren you could make an argument that it has a big HP pool and a big gun but he will get farmed if he doesn't know how to angle well or position himself to trade with enemies.
also IS7 is way more beginner friendly, why not recommend that?

[fierce hollow]

Alright thx!

[kindred wren]

Well, the IS-7 is beginner friendly because it‘s extremely op right now

[trail orchid]

@runic cloud that's the tank I want out of the premiums I haven't got as yet,it looks one of thos fun tanks to play ,I didn't like playing the American version that much

I gotta say I have started enjoying playing tank destroyers nothing more satisfying than watching half of a tanks hit points disappear when you hit one right

[rigid thunder]

the IS-7 has always been pretty new player friendly, even before its armour buff. The entire line before it though, isn't

[kindred wren]

Generally the E 100 checks all boxes that make a tank beginner friendly, which is enough armour to forgive some bad choices in positioning, enough alpha so you don‘t need to shoot as often and enough mobility to still be able to move with the main battle line.

I regard the E 100 as one of the most beginner friendly tanks with a lot of potential upwards (angling and sidescraping especially), but it is admittedly not as strong or op as the IS-7.

However, the IS-7 rather teaches bad habits and doesn‘t encourage growth so if people don‘t just look for a tank to perform ok in but also a tank that grows with their skill, the E 100 is (until a certain threshold) the better choice

[kindred wren]

Yeah, which is ironic because so many new players were sent down that line.

And the line is kinda horrible for learning aiming, sidescraping and gun-depression dependent hulldown. All you really learn is praying to RNG and playing a tank with bad gundepression - and then you get the IS-8 and may or may not enjoy heavium gameplay with requires quite a bit of skill

[fierce hollow]

The premium tanks on shop change every few days right?

[kindred wren]

I believe every week

[fierce hollow]

Okk

[kindred wren]

But sometimes small offers appear for like a day or three

[strange thicket]

even before it was OP it was the go to choice when recommending a tank to a new player

[strange thicket]

well, remember that you are talking about pups.
unless they are willing to learn. none of the mentioned will happen irrelevant of the tank they drive.
though admittedly i do agree with your words.
and most people take this game as a fun time killer or something so eh.

[kindred wren]

Yeah, but that mainly happened before WG made designated new player lines by making all tanks in the line strong, most notably the E100 line and most new heavy lines

[drifting grove]

60TP fits newbie-friendly line too.
Most of the tanks in that line are really strong.

[strange thicket]

well that is very true.
that is why i said grind up to their tier 9 and then if they really wanted the E100 they can look up videos to learn about it

[kindred wren]

Fair enough I guess

[kindred wren]

Yes, unfortunately like most new lines. I disapprove of this powercreep

[drifting grove]

You mention newer lines being newbie friendly.
Yoh line isn't that newbie friendly. You need to learn how to hulldown, but it is the best beginner line for clippers.
Kran line, which, I believe, is rather new, isn't remotely newbie friendly after Emil I. You have to work with low speed, poor armour for their mobility, and poor DPM.

[kindred wren]

The Kranvagn line when it was released was the non plus ultra of hulldown fighting starting at tier eight, and the Emil I still is one of the best tier eight tanks around (alongside the premium version Emil 1951)

The Kranvagn subsequently got a nerf and the M-VI-Yoh exists so now it isn‘t the greatest hulldown tank at tier ten anymore but it‘s still a force to be reckoned

[drifting grove]

Like I said, the Emil I is the only newbie-friendly tank of the three.
Kran is dead slow, has poor DPM and too little armour for its speed. Same for the Emil II, except the Emil II has rubbish turret armour too. You need to be really good at positioning and working with autoreloaders to do good in those two.
I agree about the Yoh, though.

[strong kelp]

it would work nowadays to buff the armor of the tower of Emil 2?

[drifting grove]

The ideal beginner line for hulldown HTs would be the E5 line. No autoloader and mostly solid turret armour, and also pretty decent hull armour. It's the ideal, perfectly-balanced beginner tank for those interested in learning how to hulldown.

[hard cedar]

E5 isn't worth it at all now

[drifting grove]

Buffing the turret armour would just make it a Tier IX Kranvagn. Now while that's definitely an improvement, it only becomes as good as the Kranvagn itself, which isn't necessarily a great tank.

[strange thicket]

Emil 2 is very good as it is.
no need for buffs

[drifting grove]

But it's a good line to start off with. I did start off with the Yoh though, and that worked for me.

[hard cedar]

Why would you start off with a line that ends with a worthless t10

[kindred wren]

No, especially the Emil II performs relatively better in the hands of bad players than in the hand of good players.

I think it‘s important to not that to perform good as a bad player you only need to be better than your average stats, which are… bad. So performing bad is good as long as it‘s better than your average bad

The Kranvagn admittedly is pretty bad now because of the turret traverse nerf which is kind of deadly to a hulldown tank with bad turret sides

[strong kelp]

why do you think that?

[onyx sluice]

IS-7.

[drifting grove]

How, though?
Low dpm, zero mobility and poor accuracy.
You need to be really good at positioning yourself to deal good damage.

[kindred wren]

Because I looked at statistics that tell me that

[drifting grove]

I'm genuinely shocked.
I fail to understand how.

[strong kelp]

ho

[kindred wren]

Emil II is chronically underestimated. It‘s actually one of the best performing tanks in tier nine

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-gif-4350446

[kindred wren]

https://blitzanalysiz.com/update/8.4/tanks/9/

[hard cedar]

Thank you Lux.

[onyx sluice]

The 20km reverse speed of Emil II is pretty good.
I was genuinely shocked how easy it was to back away quickly.

[strong kelp]

I really like Emil 2, it's relatively "fun" to play with it, but what makes me mad at it is the turret shielding.

[drifting grove]

50TP and M-V-Yoh are all the way down? What the bloody hell?

[kindred wren]

Always for you

[drifting grove]

I hated the Emil II and Kran because the speed and DPM drove me mad.

[kindred wren]

No, those are only the top 20, the worst performing tier nine tank is the Conqueror, completely in line with the position of the FV215b XD

[drifting grove]

Sad British noises

[strange thicket]

the Emil 2 is perfectly strong at tier 9
the clip and autoreloader allows it to deal nice amounts of damage albeit the low dpm
and the armor isn't remotely weak, you need tier 10 prammo to reliably pen it.
And even then if it goes hulldown it is still annoying to deal with.

[strong kelp]

it was the same with me at first, but then i got used to it

[drifting grove]

I sold it.
No regrets.

[strong kelp]

hm

[drifting grove]

Don't forget that most Tier IX and even some Tier VIII tanks have Tier X guns.

[strange thicket]

don't sell tier 10s @strong kelp

[thick trout]

The M-V yohs stats is probably brought down by anyone who plays the "dpm" gun which is missing any dpm

[onyx sluice]

Auto-reloading and clip make up for the DPM IMO.

[strong kelp]

I don't sell tier 10 even if I don't like them

[strange thicket]

the tier viii tanks are TDs
and again if you go hulldown your turret becomes troll-strong.
if the emil 2 knows what he is doing he will mess you up real bad.

[drifting grove]

Yeah, I agree.
The 120mm is the way to go on the M-V.

[drifting grove]

I know.
The discussion was newbie-friendly tanks.
Knowing what to do with the Emil II and Kran involves good positioning skill. (Which most newbies won't have).

[kindred wren]

I think what makes people underestimate the Emil II is that all factors seem to be below average, but the thing is if you have two massive upsides (autoreloader/ clip and a good turret) having a ton of average or below average stats don‘t hinder a tank as much as they help elevate it, as those stats can hardly balance the tank

Also, this is a great example of why dom doesn‘t matter as you will never or very rarely get to continuously shoot for one minute

[hard cedar]

I just played "dpm" gun on m-v because I didn't feel like spending 70k XP

[kindred wren]

I approve, albeit unwillingly XD

[drifting grove]

Lazy
You also missed out on the fun of slapping Tier VIIIs for 900 damage.

There are few things more satisfying than erasing half the HP of a Tiger II in 1.7 seconds.

[kindred wren]

What about killing a 183 or Annihilator before it manages to deal damage?

[strong kelp]

I really wanted Yoh tier 10, but tier 7 in the line makes me get cancer

[gloomy rune]

Alien tank

[gloomy rune]

Double slap from su152 he for anni and quadruple slap of mviyoh clip 120mm for 183

[drifting grove]

I didn't find the Tier VII too bad.
Maybe FXP to the M-III-Yoh?

[misty wing]

the tier 7 yoh is god awful, worse than the t29 in every way

[narrow shadow]

Why does everyone hate Emil 2? I mean it's clearly not the best, but I don't think it's bad at all. The turret isn't too bad, it's like 350mm when using gun depression..

[gloomy rune]

I hate the Emil line cuz they too op the turret. Need to spam prammo

[violet remnant]

Found this from google

[drifting grove]

I hate both the Emil II and Kran because of their horrendous DPM and speed.

[gloomy rune]

The Centvagn
Or the kranturion

[hollow notch]

Don't mind the t29 having completely broken durability, a strong gun, and solid mobility.

Comparing a tank to a broken tank is not exactly how balancing should work

[gloomy rune]

Well it’s cause for t29 to be nerfed

It’s the one time u hear a tech tree (t29) powercreep a premium (m6a2e1)

[fast compass]

Tbh I didn't like the tier 7 yoh either. Although that was just because I didn't like the tier 7 yoh

[misty wing]

m vii yoh still sucks though, it gets penned easily even by weak pen tanks like the gravedigger and t23e3, and the gun and mobility aren't enough to redeem it

[onyx sluice]

Tier 7 is a tough place for a tank but yeah that yoh is pretty weak.

[kindred wren]

Yes, the floor is made out of floor

[narrow shadow]

Sure, but that's a subjective opinion. It seems to me that almost everyone is saying that the tank is objectively bad, which is just not the case.

[drifting grove]

It has no armour.
Easy gold pen, and Tier X HTs and TDs can even butter it with standard rounds, in some scenarios.

[narrow shadow]

Not when you are using the gun depression. Sure, TDs will pen you, but heavies will struggle even with gold. I'm seeing about 350mm against HEAT when it's using 8-9 degrees of gun depression.

It's not what Kran has but bad? Not in my book.

[drifting grove]

Most Tier X HTs have ~360mm HEAT pen with Calibrated Shells.

[narrow shadow]

But we're talking ideal conditions here. In battle, you always keep moving, and an odd angle here and there will result in bounces quite often from my experience with the Emil 2. Also not everyone runs Cali and not everyone has HEAT.

It's penetrable, don't get me wrong. But call it paper? It most definitely isn't.

[gloomy rune]

Kran has 400mm+ armor hulldown

[drifting grove]

Yes, but we're talking about the Emil II here.

[gloomy rune]

Ah yes. The emil2. Prammo spamming decreases dpm. Sooooooo

[solid gate]

the IS-8 is bad

[drifting grove]

Agreed

[gloomy rune]

Agreed. Not a heavy not a medium
Bruh u replied first 😦

[drifting grove]

Too slow to be a med.
To thinly armoured to be a med.
Only play it to get the IS-7, which is great.

[thick trout]

The IS8 is fantastic it has a decent enough turret with a great gun and good mobility, it works perfectly at its job

[gloomy rune]

Sounds like a tank to be played as td.

[vague oar]

i found the is-8,ok but the ammo rack sucks i got AR 18 times in 120 matches

[thick trout]

A turret, mobility and turret armour?

[nocturne tiger]

I haven't been ammo racked much with the IS-8 and I honestly just like it for the gun and mobility

[gloomy rune]

Use defense kit and defense system +
@thick trout I was kidding, anyways I just don’t like the weak armor of is8 that’s all, even the turret is kinda weak honestly

[vague oar]

i just did it for the is-7

[nimble spruce]

Throwback to ATGM

Heh.. “permanent”

[past crane]

Lol

[solid gate]

Yeah. The mobility is good, but not good enough to be effective. The armor is absolutely horrible for a HT. And the gun is really just a meh.

[lyric copper]

the M-62 on the IS-8 is the best incarnation of the gun

[solid gate]

i mean like... the SU-122-54 has the same gun, and has the highest dpm (3k dpm)

[lyric copper]

It’s 3.8k dpm

however you are constrained to a tank that cannot be hit at all

[solid gate]

well... id rather have a tank thats good at one thing, and bad at the other, than a tank thats average at everything

[plucky summit]

I don't wanna be political or anything...
But...

[solid gate]

what is that

[plucky summit]

Concept 1B

Except a moment of silence for Gravedigger and Kpf Pz 70 😔

[solid gate]

😔

[misty wing]

Bofors tornvagn?

[plucky summit]

cough

I thought it would at least be somewhat apparent 😢

[ancient iron]

I just.... got 100k credits from a mediocre game in my Pz V/IV... .-.

[plucky summit]

I made a few more edits, and honestly that's all I got in me rn. Time to work on my History final essay

[trail orchid]

When in December does this Xmas fair with the tanks start

[ancient iron]

So.... I get it is a crap tank (that might even be giving it too much credit) BUT what good things can we find re: the Großtraktor?

[plucky summit]

60 degrees of gun elevation and substantial alpha damage for a tier 3

Of course despite being a heavy the armor is terrible, but at least you're compensated with speed

[winter hollow]

I like the emil II

[ancient iron]

tips to play better in my Challenger?\

[plucky summit]

You're a slow light tank with a good gun, just sneak in shots when the enemy isn't aware or capable of firing back

[shell robin]

how similar is the challenger to the hellcat?

although now that i think about it, it's probably more similar to the jackson

[ancient iron]

it's not that slow...

[fast compass]

Nah Jackson is more of an armored med than a paper td. The big difference between Challenger and hellcat would be the alpha ig and tier for tier dpm

[solid gate]

Hey people
I have a question that will make you wonder "how did I miss this?"
The question is:
Why the 2 kv with 152mm cannon dont have sound like the 152mm like su-152?

[misty wing]

because WG can't decide whether they want to give tanks the 150mm gun sound or the 120mm one

[strong kelp]

hmmm

[misty wing]

Let's say the 150mm gun sound is "A" and the 120mm sound is "B"
T49 has A while t92e1 and sheridan have B
SU-152 has A while ISU-152, object 704, and obj 268 have B
All american 155mm guns have B, but foch 155 has A
Ho-Ri and 60TP also have A
The only consistent one is that all german 150mms have A

[strong kelp]

hey guys, between VK 45.02 B and E 75, which is better?

[violet timber]

E75

[onyx sluice]

E75.

But the 45 is decent too if you can side scrape.

[misty wing]

Vk 45 and 72 have the weird design of rear mounted turrets but bad side armor, which is pretty counterintuitive

[violet timber]

45 isn't bad, the 72 has much worse side armor tier for tier

Though in both of those tanks, the side armor can be worked around. The real tank that has issues with a rear turret and weak side armor is the 215b

Finally played my first game in the Cent 5/1 and cemented my opinion on it being better than the AX

[solid gate]

What’s the best equipment set for grille 15? I have it

[misty wing]

I think most of them are actually up to personal preference, but you definitely want the toolbox and extra HP

[steady loom]

E75. Has better side armor and a better hull in general

[misty wing]

what's the least overpowered tank that's considered overpowered

[violet timber]

AX

[misty wing]

I feel like it would be the dracula, if people still think that's op

[violet timber]

Nah Drac is still op

[steady loom]

A lot of people say the t22 is op. I always thought no tbh. Its good but no op.

[misty wing]

it's not, E50M is better

[violet timber]

T-22 is op as long as you can use it properly

[steady loom]

Whats op about it though? ._.

[violet timber]

Just the armor

[onyx sluice]

The tier 10 Yoh.

[past crane]

The problem is that people assume rear turret=sidescraper. However the whole VK 72 line isn’t that. All have pretty bad side armor but good front armor especially since the Tier 8 was buffed. These tanks are in your face, “straight-ahead” sort of tanks that can make an offensive push and not hold a line as well as an E100 or E75 can. This means that the upper plate of the VK4502B and the little pennable frontal strip of the VK 72 should be buffed so the tanks fill their intended role.

[thorny smelt]

The turret basket on VK 72.01 K forces you to go frontline

[past crane]

Yes exactly, which proves my point. Buff the upper basket where it meets the turret or buff the turret in general, buff the little 240mm flat area on the hull, but keep those huge bulges on the side. Should make for some interesting gameplay.

[thorny smelt]

The weak turret ring?

It is a FaiLowe for a few reasons

[past crane]

No, that’s not what I’m thinking of, my bad. There’s some areas on the actual turret that are not the greatest, I think it’s just to the right and left of the gun.

[thorny smelt]

Ah the turret cheeks

Well it can be penned with gold shells or tanks with high pen guns

[past crane]

Nah they can be penned with at least 240mm of pen. The whole front section of the turret should go from 160mm to 180 or so, and that little 240mm front flat plate up to 260mm

Don’t wanna overcook it like in PC where they just make everything unpennable

[onyx sluice]

You load the gold and butter the lower plate. Its a poorly thought out tank design IMO making it impossible to angle or hull down in any way.

[steady loom]

Buffing the vk 72 would be great

[zealous anchor]

In which aspect @steady loom

[steady loom]

Anything? It's a pretty weak tank atm that cant really compete

[misty wing]

how's the centurion raac

[steady loom]

Semi op

[calm mason]

Should I get T-34 Shielded or Sell it blueprint?

[drifting grove]

Sell Blueprints.

[thorny smelt]

Sell blueprints. More credits than the tank itself.

[solid gate]

@steady loom it can compete but not in tournament battles. Just learn how to angle and to wiggle correctly when pushing. Gun is kinda good when it goes to alpha damage. Just equip it correctly with provisions too and it will become really nice.

[steady loom]

Meh. I find the thing whoefully underpowerd. Sure it has the e100s gun yet it reloads slower for some reason? Compared to the vk 90 its pretty terrible. Worst armor profile and the gun handling is pretty poor. There are many other heavies that completely outclass it.

[fervent thorn]

Yep. There's that semi-circle bulge thing on the side that's easily pennable when angled. It just defeats the purpose of it being a "sidescraping god"

[plucky summit]

The spaced armor on the side?

[misty wing]

Vk72 has no spaced armor on the side

[fervent thorn]

This little semi-circular bulge on the side of the turret

[thorny smelt]

A weak turret basket

[fervent thorn]

Yeah, when the turrets are too large for the hull they add turret baskets on the side to accommodate the excess weight

[misty wing]

I don't think that would necessarily be a turret basket, just some extra surface area to fit a larger turret ring

[trail orchid]

Seen the French boy on YouTube talk about the Dracula and saying these type of tanks have some things normal tanks haven't got what's the lycan got going for it, anyone know

[misty wing]

Its modules can't be damaged, except for the tracks

[trail orchid]

Cheers,got it the othr day not had a good look at it yet

[misty wing]

It's basically a much better IS

[hot fulcrum]

IS or KV3?

[supple light]

This tank is too good

[thorny smelt]

Seal Clubber

[lyric copper]

maybe the fact the VK72 has a smaller turret

which, considering how massive 150mm shells are, and how little space you have in a tank, starts to make sense

[onyx sluice]

KV-3.

[gloomy rune]

Yoo tf2

[onyx sluice]

I've got an ace in it lol, its difficult and easy at the same time.

[uncut trench]

Do you know if m60 received a buff recently ? Because I bounce way more shots than expected which feels almost op

[lyric copper]

it did

[uncut trench]

I mean, it is such a strong tank rn, I don't know why people don't talk about it

Being able to bounce +2k dmg every game looks more op than stb1

[civic tiger]

today is loza shermans birthday

[frozen tangle]

T34 shielded good?

[civic tiger]

yh

lol jagdtiger doing 4k dpm

[brazen holly]

Depending on how long since you have used it
It’s had a fairly good armour buff to the turret and front plate

[uncut trench]

Yeah, now it feels really great

[modest solar]

Are this a good time to spend 5K for vk168 or just wait for maybe a better deal during Christmas sale...

Will there be better deal?

[wind bolt]

its so op

[onyx sluice]

Don't, its not worth it. Get the KV-5 or E75ts instead or even the Chrysler K.

[modest solar]

Alright

[onyx sluice]

You weren't able to get in the F2P event?

[strange thicket]

get the E75TS or the Chrysler
i am not sure of the KV-5, dunno how good that armor is

[modest solar]

I start playing this game during the event

[onyx sluice]

OOF, sorry.

[modest solar]

Lol

[onyx sluice]

Its fairy good after the buff.

[thorny smelt]

Reload buff, armor buff... it's all worth the wait

[mighty kestrel]

Why does maus have less alpha than e100, maus needs 152mm gun

[rigid thunder]

because the maus is perfectly fine with a 128

[solid gate]

in my opinion the tank is fun. and pretty decent.

[hard cedar]

It's pretty bad.

[mighty kestrel]

it is slow, no armor no alpha. and it doesnt make sense that leopard 1 has more mobility and more armor, so maybe wg has to buff speed of maus till the points it is better than leopard speed

[kindred wren]

The Leopard has more armour than the Maus? What?

[hard cedar]

🤡

[onyx sluice]

I cannot imagine a Maus that goes faster than a Leopard.

[thorny smelt]

I need some better glasses to read this. What are you trying to say?

[mighty kestrel]

buff maus speed to 60km/h

[thorny smelt]

The Maus' speed in real life is 20 kmph, same as with PC. Only in Blitz it is buffed a bit up to 25 kmph. >_>

[strange thicket]

he is trolling

[nimble topaz]

T34s so good ggwp... Impressive armor.. Fair reload.. Good gun... :)

[ancient iron]

is it bad that I don't use the 122 on my IS?

[civic tiger]

yes

[violet timber]

Yes

[silk charm]

was i supposed to use the 100 mm on the is the whole damn time

[strange thicket]

no, the 122mm is good

[silk charm]

misread, nvm but tysm

[silk charm]

how much prammo do i carry for is3

[kindred wren]

You‘ll never shoot more than 10, and because of the high base pen of the BL-9 you likely need even less, so maybe 5?

Kind of depends on how often you shoot prammo

[solid gate]

does anyone else use the BT-7

[violet timber]

Just used it about 2 weeks ago

[solid gate]

noice

[violet timber]

Had to grind it on my Asia alt

[solid gate]

i suggest 8 or 10 just to make sure

[solid gate]

guys i need some advice, should i sell my Obj 260 and spend the 7500 i get on mystery boxes/get em all crates or keep the tank? it's the only T10 I have

[plucky summit]

Keep the tank, you need at least a profitable tier 10, one at all, even

[solid gate]

keep the tank. its a tier 10 collector if im right plus crates are not worth it at all

alright thanks, I was unsure since I would've tried to get mystery certificates to get a better tank but they give T5-T10 tanks so its a bit risky

[latent meteor]

Yeah too much risk.

[solid gate]

i got lucky once and got a mystery certificate just to get fury which i already had

I got the Obj 260 with a mystery certificate, but its frontal is too weak

I can't even sidescrape

[violet timber]

So don’t side scrape? Hull down

[plucky summit]

Imagine thinking sidescraping is the only purpose of a heavy tank

[violet timber]

Imagine thinking side scraping is viable in a pike nose tank other than the 252U

[mighty delta]

imagine thinking the obj 260 is a true heavy and relies and armour

[lyric copper]

imagine having the 260 as your single tier X

[fast compass]

Wait what? I thought sidescraping in 50b was a norm

[strange thicket]

the tank has weak armor all around, just run with your mediums and use your gun to overpower them
you also have a huge hp advantage.
and the mobility is adequate. you can try hull down but anything with high pen will go right through, i think even medium prammo can pen your turret but i am not sure.

[lyric copper]

MT prammo butters your entire tank

[strange thicket]

yeah i know the tank has no armor.
i wasn't sure of the turret holding up to anything even in hulldown lol

[civic tiger]

yh i got amx 30 er1 prot and k91 from just 2 crates for 500 gold

[strange thicket]

that is just luck. he can spend the 7.5k gold and get some low tier trash or not get tanks at all

[civic tiger]

yh but im happy i was lucky

plus t9 has the highest drop chance

[solid gate]

I sold that crap and got a chieftain mk 6 and Loza's sherman

[strange thicket]

well, at least chieftan is better lol

[solid gate]

yeah definitely better lmao, luck strikes again thankfully

[dense wave]

Thoughts and recommendations about the Fury?

[violet timber]

Just an easy 8, hull down and dpm

[civic tiger]

same as loza?

[solid gate]

a little bit different. it shoots faster i believe

[north bloom]

who in their right mind decided to give chimera a 460 dmg gun

[hard cedar]

*440

[plucky summit]

Lol, it had 460 but they took 20 to give to the AMX M4 mle 54

[old mist]

ngl the kunze panzer is REALLY saucy

[solid gate]

big difference

[regal bough]

i agree clutch 1v2 against full hp rhm and full hp tiger 1. old picture though

[solid gate]

ah hell nah i left cuz of that

2 smashers vs a t29 ill lose

[onyx sluice]

Most tanks will loose a 2v1 if they decide to push together. There is still a chance to win though.

[old mist]

ZAMN!

[solid gate]

but still 2 smashers vs a t29

[onyx sluice]

T29 is strong, if you're hulldown most they can do is spam HE. You will pen them every time in return.

[solid gate]

ok

[onyx sluice]

Just retreat if they start pushing.

[solid gate]

i took a shoot they both fired back and i was on 236 hp (idk how) and then i ran but they chased me down and killed me

[misty wing]

Where do you go in a 263 on mines

[silk charm]

is everyone toxic because youre the last person alive or is it a bad server

[violet timber]

Probably to the island and try to support? 263 is kinda hard due to the lack of gd. Alternatively, you could sit at the base of the hill and shoot anyone who overexposes

[thorny smelt]

They'll just put a blame on you unless you do less than your teammates

[misty wing]

I don't even have a 263 lol, just asking because I feel like mines would be a horrible 263 map

[violet timber]

Yeah, mines is really a map where gun depression is absolutely mandatory to actually do anything

[onyx sluice]

If the enemy start to push from the other side you hold the line pretty well there. Or alternatively just camp on the TD area, yes I know thats not the best use of the tank but it is what it is.

[steady loom]

I find a lot of people end up blaming the last person alive. Even if that person has done top damage and contributed the most. Instead of blaming that geezer that did 200 damage in his tier 10 collector.

[misty wing]

One time a leo 1 on my team yolod and died, and then blamed me for being a coward, when I was in a badger and couldn't even make it to the fight in time

[steady loom]

Hate those kind of players

[thorny smelt]

Classic

[drifting grove]

I met a WZ115A two matches in a row who just yoloed into the enemy and died, doing 800 damage each time.
Funny thing is, he had better stats than me, but was obviously a far worse player.

[drifting grove]

This has happened to me so many times.
I'm the last man standing and the entire team is yelling all sorts of abuse at me, only for the battle results to show that I did over 3,000 damage while none of the rest managed even 2,000.

[twilit pike]

to this day i still don't know how to play the role of each class even tho im hitting tier 7 now

[drifting grove]

Only hitting Tier VII? Roles start becoming well-defined at Tier VIII.

[twilit pike]

i play this game so casually even though it's been 5 years

[drifting grove]

5 years and Tier VII?

[twilit pike]

is it just rng until that point and follow your team lmao (yes 5 years and tier 7

[drifting grove]

Yes.

[twilit pike]

that is so depressing

[twilit pike]

i didn't play constantly it's more like an hour a week

plus half my sht went into the blue thingy so i had to re research other stuff

t82 the derp gun hahahaha

too bad it cant pen anything

[onyx sluice]

No 60TP, Yoh or Kranvagn?

[supple bolt]

What year is this, 2018?

[solid gate]

Rate these tanks -
1 - IS4
2 - M6 YOH
3 - 60TP
4 - E100
5 - MAUS
6 - FOCH 155
7 - AMX 50B
8 - KRAMVAGON
9 - HO-RI
10 -IS7

[supple bolt]

9k

[solid gate]

@supple bolt which server are you , I m in asia ?

[supple bolt]

1. 60TP
2. Yoh
3. IS-4
4. Kranvagn
5. E-100
6. Maus
7. IS-7
8. Ho-Ri
   9- Foch 155
   10- AMX 50 B

[supple bolt]

That's for the average player. For me personally I would take the E-100 over the Lewandoskiego but that's just because I know how to angle the turret and use HE shells properly. And I play in the North American server, that's why my name is blue.

[drifting grove]

1 - M-VI-Yoh
2 - AMX 50B
3 - 60TP
4 - Foch 155
5 - Ho-Ri
6 - IS4
7 - IS7
8 - E100
9 - Maus
10 - Kranvagn

[supple bolt]

50 B at Number 2? You must be a pro at autoloaders my guy

[solid gate]

@drifting grove I m not rating these tanks ,I m saying to rate by replying the number of each displayed tank :)

[supple bolt]

What

[drifting grove]

I'm not a pro at anything, but the 50B is a really strong tank.
And you've placed Kranvagn at 4, I see. It's not that good a tank. Also, Yoh>60TP.

[trail orchid]

One of my pet hates about the game, your other team members start hating on you because you're the last one alive,then the game finishes and you have done the most damage and kills but you're the "retard" ,I hate that word btw

[solid gate]

@drifting grove I m not rating these tanks i m asking to rate them by sending their S.No. in replies

[drifting grove]

Disable chat.
People are toxic morons.

[twilit pike]

the original msg got deleted it says what were u refering to

[solid gate]

1 - M6 YOH
2 - IS7
3 - 60TP
4 -AMX 50B
5 - KRANVAGN
6 - AMX 50B
7 - FOCH 155
8 - HO-RI
9 - MAUS
10 - E100

[drifting grove]

I don't understand at all.

[drifting grove]

Kranvagn ranking higher than AMX 50B, Foch 155 and Ho-Ri? Are you mad?

[solid gate]

@drifting grove I m not rating them, I m asking to rate them in replies

[rigid thunder]

basically, he's requesting people to give their opinions on the tanks he listed

[drifting grove]

Ohh.
He means review them!

[solid gate]

lmao

[trail orchid]

I don't react or let it bother me ,i just let it go over my head when the game ends and you see the stats of the abusive person it gives you a laugh

[solid gate]

@rigid thunder yes

[supple bolt]

Why do 950 dmg in 2 seconds when you can do 700 in one? The turret is also stronger. But I do see your point. Honestly, those 2 are kind of interchangable, it kinda depends on the player. Kranvagn? Get into hulldown and have a halfway competent team around you and you've won almost instantly. As for the 50B, it's got rather thin armour and is not especially fast compared to anything other than a heavy tank.

[misty wing]

1. 60TP
2. Yoh
3. IS-7
4. Ho-Ri
5. Kranvagn
6. Maus
7. E100
8. IS-4
9. AMX 50b
10. Foch 155
    quite biased list

[solid gate]

I tested all the op tanks in trainig rooms but the winner was IS4....

[gloomy rune]

It’s called pet peeves

[gloomy rune]

What if he is really good

[solid gate]

And WG should release a latest video about rating all tier 10s....

Discord keeps hanging and crashing why

What we call tier sound "tyre" or "teer"

[misty wing]

teer

[trail orchid]

@gloomy rune talking about their stats for that game,

[supple bolt]

Teer

Anyone care for a 1v1 on NA

[rigid thunder]

I'll just give a proper reply here
have this essay
1 - slightly out of meta tank, overshadowed a little by the IS-7 but still has extremely good armour and gold rounds
2 - broken tank with the 3 shot, very good dpm, penetration, armour and speed for an autoloader and comes with minimal downtime
3 - very strong (maybe broken) tank, strong frontal armour profile and broken consumables
4 - good tank that takes a lot of brain, less competitive than the maus due to its less effective armour and gigantic house of a turret
5 - very strong tank with high carry potential, bouncing shots even in open ground is doable, and very good at snapshotting since it's extremely slow
6 - trash 12km/h reverse, why?
7 - very fun tank, and good as well, since 1200 clip on a very fast platform can't ever be bad
8 - not as great after the nerfs, but it's still good due to its autoreloader, broken consumables and turret armour
9 - armour profile that looks bad on paper but will bounce a lot, and an amazing gun that pens basically everything. Also quite fast, overall one of the better tier 10 tds
10 - meta heavy, it has armour, speed, alpha damage and actually has good AP pen, which allows you to cheap out on spamming gold

[gloomy rune]

I know. What if they performed really good

[trail orchid]

@gloomy rune that's not been my experience so far,it's a what if

[solid gate]

@rigid thunder great description!

[drifting grove]

Okay then.
1 - IS-4 is a really strong, and honestly underrated tank. Hull front has a tiny weakspot and is rather hard to penetrate. Good gun with nice DPM. Also has decent mobility.
2 - M-VI-Yoh is probably the most powerful Heavy Tank in the game at the moment because of its insane gun(s). You either use the 105mm which gives you 3000 DPM with great gun handling, or the 120mm which allows you to unleash 900 damage in a span of 1.7 seconds every 19.9 seconds. Armour is decent, frontally. And it has good mobility too.
3 - 60TP is basically an IS-4 with a weaker version of the E100's gun. The 'tungsten shells' consumable, is this tank's main pro. And also, a top speed of up to 42 km/h.
4 - E100 is a slow, heavily armoured tank. It's hull and turret have a ton of weakspots, so you need to angle/sidescrape. The best thing about its tank is the gun. 640 alpha with really good accuracy (much better than the 60TP's) and also, amazing HE with 960 alpha and good penetration.
5 - It has much stronger armour than the E100, but is much slower and the gun isn't great.
Foch 155 is a Frontline TD with a powerful gun and solid frontal armour. Cupola and lower glacis are weakspots and the hull can sometimes be penned by prammo.
AMX 50B is one of the most powerful HTs in the game. It has a powerful gun with 1200 total clip damage. It also has ludicrous mobility for a HT. This tank has basically no armour, though.
Kranvagn is not a great tank. It's only strong point is that it is impossible to penetrate when hulldown. Otherwise, it's horribly slow, has horrendous DPM and no hull armour at all.
Ho-Ri is a really powerful TD. It's gun is amazingly accurate and has amazing penetration, and the hull is also quite strong, but vulnerable to prammo. It's also very mobile.

IS-7 is mainly known for its amazing speed and trollish side armour. Other than that, it isn't great. It has strong frontal armour, but the massive lower glacis is weak and the upper plate can be penned by prammo, and sometimes, even standard ammo. It's gun isn't great either, and is worse than the IS-4's.

The message actually exceeded the 2,000 chatacter word limit.

[rigid thunder]

Congratulations I guess

[onyx sluice]

Is the Kranvagn worth it anymore? I currently have 150K XP on the Emil II and was wondering if getting the Kran is the best use of my credits and gold.

[candid onyx]

best on ridgelines

[onyx sluice]

Yes but the turret traverse nerf had me doubting its effectiveness.

[drifting grove]

I sold mine.

[steady loom]

Nothing much more to say about the Kran. Godlike ridgefighter.

[supple bolt]

Yeah, but don't rush for it or anything. It's a good tank, and a great one in the hands of an experienced player. But it's not op or broken or really good

[winter basalt]

Can I run the E100 stock gun until I get xp to upgrade it, or should I use free xp?

[onyx sluice]

Free XP. That gun is the entire point of the E100.

[winter basalt]

Ok, thanks

[loud verge]

Where's jagtiger,obj 268,obj 263 and the death star?

[solid gate]

@loud verge they are gone for a picnic . L0L

[loud verge]

Waht

[solid gate]

@loud verge I was joking. They can't be in a rating because they are best in destroying others , dealing massive damage , surviving best but some of them cant stand in maneuvrability or survivability.

[loud verge]

hori?

[solid gate]

@loud verge Because it can stand in maneuvrability best but not in others

[loud verge]

Foch?

[solid gate]

Same reason

[loud verge]

M-VI-Yoh?

[thorny smelt]

Why is Strv 103B all covered up? Camo rating go brrrrrrr

[violet remnant]

To swim

[thorny smelt]

This looks like a mobile bathroom to me.

[thorny smelt]

Ooooh

[loud verge]

Home Made amphibious Mk I* Heavy tank

[nimble topaz]

Yow guys... I made my newest high damage record.... IT SO COOOOL... my first highest damage is 3,010... now... its 4,250 lolololol.... it was actually a tough fight
you know... 5 enemies vs me (AMX M4 45 with 5 kills) and my teammate (IS with 2 kills)... How cool is that lol...

[solid gate]

I got 2 tanks yesterday, amx cda 105 and amx m4 mle

[thorny smelt]

54? 49?

[solid gate]

54 I think

[thorny smelt]

Noice

[solid gate]

My card is dead tho🪦

[frail osprey]

Is the T-34 any goods?

The T-34-85

[onyx sluice]

When will WG post info about the auctions? I heard they were supposed to be on the 17th.

[fast compass]

1 week to 2 days before it actually begins. So soon.

[ancient iron]

ok so... T-34S.... which does it need more... Adrenaline or Engine Power Boost?

[solid gate]

almost everytime someone is toxic and says how bad the team is ends up having a 50+ winrate with 15k battles

[violet timber]

Adrenaline and double repair

[narrow shadow]

Imagine even considering getting a normal speed boost over a medkit. And with adrenaline, it's even more obvious 😄

[latent meteor]

Very nice. It's always fun setting a new damage record.
Keep watching YouTube videos and such to get better. Imo, the better you are, the more you win, the more you like the game.

[hollow notch]

Look back at your own replays and cringe at your sketchy plays. Great for learning

[bronze yew]

It’s ok… just average… nothing special

[misty wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agHdV0GrBIU

holy imagine we get an attachment like that in wotb

[solid gate]

i enjoy it

[crystal ferry]

It’s an effective tank if you play it in a support role

[nimble topaz]

T34 armor can be penetrated easily for its tier.. Same goes with t34-85... Their Gun is good somehow.... Speed is also good

[manic steppe]

T34 should be buffed like T29

[silk charm]

its so fun when people call you a camper when you hide behind something for 2 seconds

and even more when the person that called you that is a hetzer that charges frontline lol

[nimble topaz]

🙂

[safe cedar]

IS, IS-2 Berlin, IS-3, IS-4, IS-5, IS-6,or IS-7? Which looks the best?

[plucky summit]

IS-7
(I see you’ve said it twice, so I mean the last IS-7)

[nimble topaz]

Good thing that IS is dependable lmao... I ACTUALLY PLATOONED HIM AFTER THAT MATCH!!!

[safe cedar]

With AMX m4 45? Dam, hard tank to play.

[plucky summit]

The buff helped it a lot

[safe cedar]

Wait it got buffed? what got buffed?

[violet timber]

Armor

[safe cedar]

Oh, -_-

[hollow notch]

Is6f is seggsier

[violet timber]

IS-8 go brrrrrr

[steep canyon]

IS-4 and IS-8

[severe spear]

i mean t62A is pretty sht so yah

[steep canyon]

Rip Soviet Mediums

[zealous anchor]

Lol...

[fast compass]

He is bri'ish. Ofc he believes in 4202 supremacy

[delicate dock]

interesting

[brave night]

62a sucks on pc which is what the video is on. The 140 got overbuffed and the 62a nerfed/forgotten

[hard cedar]

Hey it's the exact opposite in blitz!

[onyx sluice]

What to do when the match maker is making your games miserable?

[plucky summit]

Play better 😎

[onyx sluice]

Tried doing that, not enough unfortunately.

[plucky summit]

Oh well, no harm in trying another time

[onyx sluice]

Wargaming really needs to put in a mechanism to stop people from buying higher tier premiums (8-10) or free XP.

[strange thicket]

Everybody suffers that problem

[latent meteor]

Too late, and not going to happen.
Besides, WG will earn much less revenue that way.

[strange thicket]

That is debatable

[steady loom]

Wargaming cannot be blamed for a player being bad though. The tools are there for people to learn and get good

[onyx sluice]

Its not about a player being bad or good though, I'm avarage and I certainly don't expect anyone to be any better than I am.

But just buying a tier 8,9 or 10 tank and not having grinded those tiers in the tech tree is a lot different.

[steady loom]

Its no different in most games where you can buy your way to the end game stuff

[onyx sluice]

Its fine in games where the only opponents are bots. Blitz is online multi-player, even if it is common doesn't make it good.

[silk charm]

am i the only one that absolutely adores the t34 shielded? everyone complains about it but ive bounced so many shots with it and

it looks so damn cool

[trail orchid]

@solid gate the CDA 105 is a fun tank to play,it's a shame the penetration isn't a bit better but the tank can shift about the battlefield pretty quickly

[twilit pike]

is it worth it to put equipment on tier 6 tanks and provisions

and when is it worth to spend free xp to skip past a tank

[silk charm]

1. i breezed past tier 6 so i dont think its necessary but ask the more experienced players
2. i got real pissed after i accidentally bought a hull upgrade instead of just going for the is3 so i used free xp

i would assume best to do it going to tier 9 and up but then again im an idiot

[twilit pike]

mm i see

[valid gale]

@twilit pike yes and yes
1 literally why wouldn’t you the only reason I see not to is for cost reasons but it shouldn’t an issue unless you have very low credits
2. Skipping tanks with free exp is recommended but only do it if it’s something you want and have a decent amount left over

[nimble topaz]

sheesh my victory rate has gone real low 😦 60% lol

[twilit pike]

i have 1.2 mil only is that enough

[nimble topaz]

Do i get prizes in rating battles like xp, coins, ? or better rewards like tanks or gold ? or no reward at all ?

[strange thicket]

never, if you are F2P use freexp to research modules so you don't have to play them stock.
if you however can afford to spend money on FXP you can use it to skip past tanks.
or if you have piled up a lot of fxp say 500k or something.
i fxp past the lower tiers when i am grinding new lines but that is only because i stock pile a lot of FXP.

[twilit pike]

o i meant like the mopduels alr

[strange thicket]

skipping past tanks with fxp means that you don't even play the tank, you just research the tank after it using fxp.

[twilit pike]

yee i accidently said skipping past but what about the equipment

[strange thicket]

personally i played up to tier 10 without buying any equipment on my tanks lol, other than using CS or rammer i don't see a problem in playing without equipment.
recently i have been spending sometime equipping my tanks but that is because i earn enough credits to do it.
i would say they aren't necessary, but i recommend using them in tier 8 and above.

[twilit pike]

what about premium ammo then

[strange thicket]

premium ammo is absolutely necessary, especially in higher tiers.

[valid gale]

Equipment is very much necessary depending on some parts of course 30+ repair speed is a must or rammer extra health too camo net optics consumable buff or gun buffs is upto you gold ammo is a must

[strange thicket]

i have been doing fine playing my tanks unequipped
though equipping tanks does indeed boost their performance, i don't think they matter in lower tiers, but in tier 8 and above where things get competitive they are.

[valid gale]

Tiers like 6 and 5 it doesn’t really matter it’s a miracle if they even figure out how to put on camo it is necessary for 7 and above

[strange thicket]

i haven't played tier 7 in a good while so i was unsure of it.

[twilit pike]

wait where does free xp even come from

[strange thicket]

you earn it from battles, you can also convert elite xp to free xp using gold.
there is also certificates and missions which give free xp.
and there is also the free crates in store

[valid gale]

Boosters also give additional free exp and premium time aswell

[lyric copper]

if you sweat it out you can get tank parts

even more and you actually get the tank and gold

good luck grinding this horror show of a mode

[nimble topaz]

😄

[leaden escarp]

dayum. completely stock too. :) maybe this thing isnt so bad afterall

[nimble topaz]

lol your player name haha

[leaden escarp]

;)

[nimble topaz]

that ARL 44 is nub lol....

[leaden escarp]

yep

any reccomendations for the 60tp line?

[nimble topaz]

they say 60tp is a META tank... IS7 is also an excellent tank for its tier lol

[leaden escarp]

ik but....... yeah stock IS8 excists

[lyric copper]

free exp exists

[onyx sluice]

Free xp won't exist once you grind the Russian heavies lol.

[leaden escarp]

exactly

[leaden escarp]

my free exp was non-existant after 5 matches of stock IS-3

[heady current]

Is the Tech Tree Conqueror worth grinding?

[manic carbon]

No

[gloomy rune]

Black prince is worth it tho

[manic carbon]

Ok but he’s asking about the Conqueror

[narrow shadow]

At this moment? You better stop at tier 8 in that line. Conqueror is not good and FV215b is even worse.

[steady loom]

Why is the bourrasque so overpriced xD

[heady current]

Thanks for the advice. Is there any fun British lines you recommend?

[kindred wren]

Fun? Depends what you consider as fun. There are a lot of very special tanks in the British tech tree that you may or may not consider fun

[violet timber]

🅱️ickers light

[trail orchid]

Wonder that myself,you basically have to spend around £90 to get it

[narrow shadow]

I won't comment on TDs, I find their campy playstyle boring and I have never played a single TD game.

The medium tanks are difficult to play with the HESH, but can be good.

Lights are very strong, all 3 of them, but again not the easiest to play with low alpha and HP pool in T8. T9 and T10 are better.

[violet timber]

Not all tds are made for camping

[narrow shadow]

Sure, but in general they are quite passive. I don't enjoy that.

[violet timber]

There’s still 5 lines that aren’t campy

[oak pollen]

Are T28 with medium tank guarded is good?

[thorny smelt]

YOLOwagon: Hallo!

[violet timber]

Jageroo, Foch, 263, E3, Badger

[oak pollen]

And which line I should research next. Soviet TD or France Light tank?

[heady current]

Tbh i prefer tanks that have a good alpha dmg with good dpm, which was literally why I landed my eyes on the conqueror

[violet timber]

French lights

[oak pollen]

Thank

[kindred wren]

Any other requirements? Because the reminds me a lot of the Obj. 268 or Grille 15 line

[oak pollen]

How about Black prince line?

[shut talon]

what gun yall use in t44?

[heady current]

Your suggestions fit well but I dont like turretless tanks

[narrow shadow]

There is only one gun which is even close to being worthwile in that tank 😄

[manic carbon]

The top 100mm. Not the 122mm.
If I wanted to drive around with a big gun on my medium tank, I’d drive my Chinese meds

[kindred wren]

That line has high dpm but the alpha is on the low end of heavy alphas

[shut talon]

bruh the t8 gun has very long reload time why is that.

[oak pollen]

Should I spend all my gold with vk168.01p? (But I already have vk100.01p and mauschën)

[glacial kiln]

Panther with better armor on front and side but i think maybe put some shield on the back tank

Or maybe i need put somethings else?

[shut talon]

noice

[west rapids]

Pantera*

[vast cargo]

Hi all
I have 900k silver and i want to buy kv2 but my frends push me to get more silver and buy Comet

[candid onyx]

buy kv-2

[vast cargo]

@candid onyx ok but ita pen... is really low it would not be problem ?

[kindred wren]

Don‘t listen to your friend 👀 KV-2 rules

[vast cargo]

And its turret is so so large and it would be hard to hide .

[candid onyx]

long-live russian bias

[violet timber]

Honestly depends on what you want, IS-4 or Vickers (I’m leaving out the 4202 on purpose)

[vast cargo]

Ok guys i will buy kv 2

[violet timber]

The pen won’t be a problem as AP rounds are not your main ammo! You’ll be using HE. A lot.

[vast cargo]

@violet timber @candid onyx @kindred wren thanks for help

[lyric copper]

try stuffing a 122mm in a turret made for a 85mm or even 100mm

then try lifting 25kgs within that small space

While being shook by the tank’s movement

[trail orchid]

@steady loom I ended up getting it after I thought I would gamble a couple of the individual crates ,well got it on the 3rd one to be exact ,so cost me £11.37

[analog silo]

No, it isn’t a particularly strong tank. Your armor is worse than vk100 and it is harder to sidescrape. Save for the blitz fair and get a shark or amx 49 if you want a strong heavy.

[strange thicket]

amx 49 is not particularly strong either

[oak pollen]

Ok

[hard cedar]

M4 49 is cool

[blissful hamlet]

M4 49 is the french King Tiger with a better frontal armor in the turret, but weaker sides in the hull

[maiden quarry]

Tier 6 Brit. Cromwell or Firefly? Odd as it sounds (former pc wot player here) Crommie for the armor(and speed) .... firefly for the gun?

and no, not enough financing for both (or at least not enough to max equipment and upgrades on both with coin and free exp)

[kindred wren]

Well, Cromwell for the mobility, Firefly for the options? I would actually say get both, but get the Cromwell first, unless you have no intention of grinding the FV4005 line (which is one of the less rewarding lines)

[zealous marlin]

Where? Do u have a link?

[hard cedar]

I'd say firefly just bc it leads to TD line

[kindred wren]

There is a list on the forums but because of the recent economy change the values may be outdated

[zealous marlin]

Where do u ahave a link?

[kindred wren]

This is an older forum post by Positive:

http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/58556-updated-credit-earnings-for-65-missing-a-few-new-tanks/

This is a tank compare tool that also includes the credit coefficient (at the top of the misc category):

https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com

[zealous marlin]

Oh thx

[pine jolt]

What does the Russian crew say when the driver is hit because I have now seen 2 jokes on it

[thorny smelt]

But the gun is sooooo good

[strange thicket]

Meh

[thorny smelt]

232 AP pen on GR and 244 mm on CS? I'll take it.

[nimble topaz]

im loving amx m4 45 already lol.... its 90mm DCA gun is very strong lol

[misty wing]

what's the best between amx m4 45, 49, 51 and 54

[violet timber]

Tier for tier? Either the 54 or 49

[cloud hound]

Should i get the t110e5 or the yoh

[misty wing]

yoh

[violet timber]

Yoh, E5 has fallen from grace

[nimble topaz]

F

I cant penetrate tiger 2

We friking died bruh

[violet timber]

F

Press 2 key

[nimble topaz]

?

[violet timber]

Load the gold my dude

[thorny smelt]

M4 45 is the tech tree tier 7 heavy with some buff on the armor and a lovely 90mm DCA 45 gun

M4 49 is the tier 8 premium heavy that can be known as the French Tiger 2 (I love the gun)

M4 51 is a tier 9 heavy tank in WOT PC after AMX 65t (tier 8) and AMX M4 45 (tier 7)

M4 54 is the tier 10 collector tank in Blitz but a tech tree tank in PC. The tank is the exact opposite of AMX 50B (more armored, single-shooter, a little bit slower at top speed of 45 kmph but still faster than M4 49)

[nimble topaz]

sad I cant have AMXmas cause I need prem pass

DONT MIND MY COINS, FREE EXP, GOLD, and STUFFS LOL 🙂

[thorny smelt]

Buy the premium battle pass then

[nimble topaz]

im broke lol so nope... Imma just collect the 5 secs til midnight avatar and camos

[plucky summit]

Just 54

[violet timber]

But 49

[plucky summit]

But 54

[violet timber]

49 🥲

[plucky summit]

54 > 49, just math
Just like 7 > 4

[violet timber]

But tier for tier 49

[plucky summit]

BUt wrong

[heady dew]

The BC Borrasque finally dropped its alright. Gotta figure out a good playstyle for it though

[violet timber]

13 90 better

[heady dew]

Yes sadly. Borrasque might actually need a buff in something. Its fast but has terrible acceleration meaning it aint fast lol

[hollow moth]

Tutorial in how to design a french tank:
1st: choose the name
It shall start with "AMX" plus another number. If not, add FCM instead of AMX or random a cool name instead of numbers.

2nd: All or nothing
Is it meant to block damage?
If yes, then make it a nice breakthrough tank with an incredible frontal armor
If not, make if as fast as possible

3rd: Single-shot cannons suck
Make all of your tech tree tier X have auto loader cannons, even if it's a TD

4th: follow WW1 concepts even on the 50s
Make the heavy tanks are big as the designers can, trust me, that's why we like AMX 50b

5th: NoDerp policy
You did read it right, we don't use derp guns here (unless if it have a decreased damage and is also an autoloader)