vehicles-discussion

[ancient iron]

JAYZUS! that is one hell of a BFOG

[wintry orchid]

Is the gunpowder thing actually worth it?

[misty sinew]

Nnot gonna lie thr new russian light line is pretty poggers :-:

[wet prism]

Yes it is,makes it fly like a average t10 round and not like a high caliber one. Makes it far easier to hit enemies,especially when they pull back around a corner

[lethal badge]

hello

[hollow moth]

Hi

[quasi mirage]

Not worth trading food(10% crew) , or fuel / gear oil. Gear oil gives you 20 kmh reverse but you also need the fuel to utilize the 40 kmh top speed

[wintry orchid]

I did on the t7 (the only one I have so far): big food, big fuel and big oil

Played it before 8.5 tho

[silk charm]

people always say to grind gravity force, why is that?

[violet timber]

It doesn't affect your stats, only your battle count

[hollow moth]

Wait, I thought that only rankeds and normal battles affected your battle count

[violet timber]

afaik special modes affect your battle count as well, I can test it real quick

Seems it doesn't add any battles, so it just gives credits and experience

[scarlet kernel]

I just had a bad dream, in a part of my dream i was talking about blitz that "the concept 1B is not as OP as people think" And a guy responded "it reloads in 5.5 sec"

[violet timber]

You didn't hear that they gave it a 10 shot autoloader with 5.5 sec interclip?

[narrow shadow]

Is the T-34/100 as bad as it looks? I just don't see an advantage over the T-34-1..

[wintry orchid]

Rate of fire maybe? Dunno haven’t played neither

[safe cedar]

Is it me or are the AMX 13s kinda poop

[lyric copper]

not if you know how to play them

[violet timber]

They're actually very good

[silk charm]

oh no what will i do now
im in financial ruin

[static tangle]

Should I get the buy tier9 is8 and grind to is7 or buy tier9 e50

[misty wing]

as usual, it just depends on which tier 10 you want
both are very very solid right now

[covert dagger]

Think we'll see this in the future?

[fast compass]

Czech tds? Possibly

[safe cedar]

@lyric copper what makes AMX 13 good?

[neat nimbus]

battle pass tanks should be 3d styles instead on being a seperated tanks

that way tier 6 be saturated as tier 8 and we all know over saturated tier isnt good for the game

is something i was thinking because wg needs do something

[valid gale]

It’s tier 6 though

[neat nimbus]

said it again when it gets too late

[thorny smelt]

Me: Gimme T-150 as a BP tank

[violet timber]

They have rather high clip potential, good speed, good camo, and relatively fast clip reload

[maiden quarry]

so Russian heavy lines?

used to be there was no comparision, everyone went IS-7.

Can the IS-4 match up in Blitz?

[violet timber]

Used to be no comparison get IS-4 lol, only the pbr made the IS-7 the go to.

On the topic of the IS-4 though, it’s still very much good. The armor hasn’t changed, the speed hasn’t changed, the gun hasn’t changed, the IS-7 is just better. The IS-4 still has a very good armor profile, 340 HEAT pen, a reliable gun, and decent speed. It is still a good tank.

[silk charm]

i cannot describe the amount of times ive been insulted today for using a stock is3 lmao

does everyone just expect you to be p2w
while on that topic any more tips and tricks to the is3

[violet timber]

You should have to use a stock IS-3 lol

[wise moth]

Super small profile, good camo, and the autoloaders give them the ability to make the most of any shot opportunities they can create

[violet timber]

You get the second gun on the IS, you really shouldn’t be using IS-3 stock

[maiden quarry]

in pc I played the IS-3 straight up and down. The nose was a point so if you angled you actually flattened out your armor and made an easier shot for your opponent. Also wiggle your turret a bit as while reloading as it used to be somewhat troll-ish with small spots to hit

Not sure if those tips make sense here as I haven't gotten that far yet

[safe cedar]

@wise moth what about the low clip potential, poor acceleration, and lack of gun angles.

[violet timber]

What do you mean low clip potential? They have rather high clip potential for how mobile they are. And their acceleration is quite good compared to other tanks

[maiden quarry]

and thank you @violet timber on the IS-4 help. Been checking ahead on the tech tree and these look like the same tanks without much change as on pc

I played my IS and IS-3 into the ground on pc and was looking for a reason to go the other lline

[violet timber]

Remember, just because another tank is the “go to” doesn’t mean that another one is bad. Unless it’s the T62 vs 140

[safe cedar]

@violet timber well than how do I AMX 13?

[violet timber]

Get to a position and spot first, be a good LT. Next find a position where you can empty a clip and run, let loose, then actually run. Proceed to let your clip reload, find a position where you can clip and run, then repeat over and over

[maiden quarry]

^you see the word "run" a lot there and its that way for a reason. If that isn't your style, find another tank imho

[topaz ledge]

T57 Heavy gets a reworked armor model, Fv215B (183) gets a reworked armor model. the two of them didn't have the same armor model in PC and were changed to look like their WOT Pc Versions. will Vk 72.01k also get a reworked armor model when it gets its HD graphics?

[violet timber]

AMX 13 is literally one of the best hit and run tanks in the game

[maiden quarry]

yep, shoot and scoot. I hate seeing those on the other side

[violet timber]

They’re hit and miss because most players don’t know how to do it properly

[maiden quarry]

I know I don't. I guess that's the main point. If that thing's style isn't yours, no amount of coaching is going to make you good at it. That play style seems to function on high speed instinct and you got it or you don't. My opinion only there

[violet timber]

That’s true. You can still get out damage, but not the way someone who knows the tank can.

[fast compass]

Amx 13s in a nutshell. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee

Clip and dip

[fast compass]

Reminds me of this Reddit post a long time ago. Two mid tier lights rushing to flank the pinned enemies. Rushing down close to a walllike mound. Spot a camping kv2 and instinctively both turn into the wall area to hide from it. Just something you do from muscle memory if you play lights enough

[safe cedar]

Sounds like the french irl.

[scarlet kernel]

I just got a m41D from the mystery crates lmao, and im gonna put the american 4th of july camo on it

[scarlet kernel]

sold the 50tp prot and got a T55A now. collectible tanks for me is just a playable gold bank

[safe cedar]

After buff T26e4 is amazing im impressed by WG.

[plucky summit]

Really? Just an aiming time buff impresses you?

[safe cedar]

Yeah it does, idk how but its made it way better.

[scarlet kernel]

i mean, it took like 2 second before for the gunner to realise he should be aiming

[scarlet kernel]

the T55A is basically the T54 but a better credit maker

[silk charm]

i do use second gun usually and upgraded turret so idk where theyre coming from lol

i use second bottom second gun on normal games and stock top second gun on gravity

btw, third gun worth?

[olive flax]

bruh

[strange thicket]

why? you wasted a busted tank for a meh medium.

also the t54 gets better armor than the 55a
55a trades some of the armor for a better gun

[scarlet kernel]

Like i said, collectible tanks are just playable gold bank, i can get it back

Basically i traded like, around 3 month without 50tp prot for the t55

[misty wing]

is that the jatkosota tank lmao

[brittle canyon]

guys which one is more noob friendly
AMX 50 120 or Obj. 704?

[narrow shadow]

50 120 is quite noob unfriendly, and 704 is a TD. For a noob friendly tank that doesn't sit in a bush on respawn, I suggest you grind polish heavy tanks.

[brittle canyon]

hm aight

but eh, not gonna grind a new line anytime soon

thx btw

[manic carbon]

Object 704 and its line is more noob friendly

[spring swallow]

Getting penned by that line's HE is pain

[brittle canyon]

I see

[hollow moth]

• Su-85: just an average turretless tank with a slightly above average gun
• SU-100: now you make an interesting damage with high penetration, not bad armor tho
• SU-152: if you didn't learn when to use AP, HEAT and HE, you'll learn now. Trust me.
• ISU-152: it because literally a point and click game.
• Obj 704: Troll armor, workable speed, improvements in BL-10, what else you'd want?
• Obj 268: kinda complex game play, mostly if it's your first T10. You'll be changing between second line TD and close quarter support most of the time.

Most noob friendly line by far

[brittle canyon]

hmm, 704 has a troll armor eh 🤔

Thx for the information 👍

[hollow moth]

At some point while playing Obj 794 you'll experience a "How the #### I did bounce this???" moment. It's because of the weird angles on your armor, but don't trust them all the time.

[pallid flame]

Yeah

[drifting grove]

I had that just yesterday.
Bounced off the completely grey front of a 704 with my 60TP.
-_-

[shell robin]

So I found a website that talks about the tier 8 blitz heavy, the Chi-Se, and let's just say it's a heavium

it's effectively a Chi-Ri with a 600 hp engine and a 105mm autoloader. Yes, a 105 autoloader.

[solid gate]

Hey can you tell me which tank is good after leopard (tier V ) Line should I leave this line or its have some great tank in tier 6 on android

[thorny smelt]

This competes with Emil I and AMX 50 100

[drifting grove]

And M-III-Yoh.

[broken turtle]

ima getting stockholm syndrome with the leo pta
from extreme pain and hating it, now i love it
now my playstyle with it is safe peek-a-boo (or unsafe sometimes), no hulldown even a little bit, bullies tier 8 meds whatever premium or tech tree, bursting firepower behind heavies butt

[thorny smelt]

I forgot that one LOL

I'm not used to have Yohs around

[shell robin]

https://mousoujptechtree.swiki.jp/index.php?Chi-Se

I don't know. it's probably as slow or slower than the original Chi-Ri (which puts at below 40 km), it still retains the terrible armor profile of the Chi-Ri as well as only having a 10mm armor upgrade.

I'm guessing the Chi-Se will be the only one with a autoloader, much like it's tier 7 counterpart, the Chi-Ri.

[uncut trench]

Yeah and the best thing about it is to know that you've got the same pen as the leo 1 so if you face t10 it is also not a problem. Moreover, knowing that leo 1 is basically the same tank but with better stats especially the dpm is kanda cool when you know that pta is already great

[onyx sluice]

Um what? Wargaming seems to have completely messed up the stats.

The chi-Se (historically atleast) was based on the chassis of the Ho-Ri with the sloped armor (120mm angled at 60+ degrees) with the turret of the Chi-Ri with extra armor bolted on. The 105 was fitted to the turret but the loading tray (the autoloader) was removed.

[pallid flame]

no, wg does what they want

[hollow moth]

I got the same for Obj 268

[thorny smelt]

We all do. Mine with AMX 50 100 and Sturer Emil.

[hollow moth]

Everyone also have an horrible tank that we become fanboys when talking about them.

I'm a T28 HTC fanboy, it's not horrible, just a bit under-average, team dependent, doesn't work against experienced players and have one of the least good guns for a TD in tier 7 🤡

[kindred wren]

I‘m not sure which part of that message is the joke

[pallid flame]

I need the WZ blaze in my account 🤨

[hollow moth]

I have one, it's like a third world country version of Helsing

[pallid flame]

I just love tds kshdjejd

[kindred wren]

It‘s more like a poor man‘s Grille 15 at tier 7 if you ask me

[thorny smelt]

I assume your garage is full of tank destroyers of every tier

[hollow moth]

I suppose he's the first one to play a tier 1 TD

[pallid flame]

who knows

[hollow moth]

It makes much more sense than third world country version of Helsing

[pallid flame]

Man the credits

[shell robin]

it seems we'll just get an upgraded Chi-Ri in tier 8 this time.

[north bloom]

god obj 263 is a pain to shoot at

why did they buff that mantlet to be impenetrable

hur dur engine deck shoot it

[strange thicket]

aim at the miniscule lowerplate :)

[kindred wren]

It‘s not that small

[gentle comet]

Nice opinion.. one small issue. I am inside your home

[kindred wren]

That‘s honestly not my problem

[strange thicket]

i mean if the obj263 is standing still sure.
but most of the time it keeps on moving

[kindred wren]

If it moves it won‘t hit you reliably over distances that make hitting the lower plate or engine deck difficult or impossible

[strange thicket]

oh most of the time it will be rushing towards you.
that is at least half of the players i have seen playing the tank
it is def not 50M's level of lower plate.
but yeah it is not impossible to hit.
just annoying to shoot at

[kindred wren]

If it makes you feel better, it‘s also annoying to play

[strange thicket]

yeah, i would imagine the gun angles are hell to deal with.

[solid gate]

tog 2 is really fun in gravity mode

[thick trout]

The 263s accuracy is a nightmare too and you can't stop to aim unless you got a hulldown position with 4° depression and no reds having shots into your side, it's certainly not impossible to do well in but it's not nice to play

[violet timber]

It's a good tank, but hard to play properly

[plucky summit]

If you hate tier 10, don't play it 🤨

But you said "tire X matches"

[strange thicket]

it is a very good tank.

[plucky summit]

A nice evasive heavy

[ancient iron]

wowzas.... Tankenstein is p deec in the low grav thing

[solid gate]

yo guys does anyone know what model this tank is ?

[hollow spoke]

Erwin rommels ru

M60A2

Maybe

[violet timber]

Either an M48 or M60

[solid gate]

kk thanks a bunch

[kindred wren]

It‘s an M48A3, it has the 90mm but the Mod B turret which narrows it down to the M48A3 Patton

[violet timber]

^

[hollow spoke]

P44 pantera or Progetto 46

[delicate sluice]

Prog

[hollow spoke]

Ok thanks

[narrow shadow]

Pantera is better at ramming

Progetto is better at gun clip potential, gun clip dump time, alpha damage, camo, it's smaller, more gun depression, makes more credits

[hollow spoke]

Thanks u too

[hard cedar]

tl;dr prog is just better

[runic cloud]

U good there

[broken turtle]

lol how you could suffer in the 268

[broken turtle]

uh to me st.emil is not that bad. The gun is good. The speed is slow and go planking with team is a mistake. -15 deg gun depression is insane

[thorny smelt]

The gun is placed a little high and it is an open cabin which makes it possible for the gun to depress that much. I think the reason why USSR heavy tanks have poor gun depression is that their turret roof, even just the overall turret profile of being low and flat, makes the gun depression almost impossible.

[icy willow]

Is the T-34 Shielded strong?

[silk charm]

not really but i sure think covered tires look hot as hell

who cares about power when you go into battle in your pimped up tonk

and hey, if you really dont like it, its a freemium so just sell it for easy gold/creds

[broken turtle]

dont sell premium
you only get some credit
keep it and play for fun

[elder remnant]

What’s the best well rounded X level tank?

[violet timber]

As is a jack of all trades? Probably M48 Patton since it is the all rounder medium

[elder remnant]

Is the new TP60 a good one

[violet timber]

It's kinda specialised, hull down heavy hitter. It's overall a very good tank though

[elder remnant]

I’ve been using JG.PZ E100

[violet timber]

Average tank, decent armor, good gun, meh speed

[elder remnant]

It doesn’t have good speed but it hits like a beast 800 to 900 damage

But I’ve been thinking about doing TP60 as it’s a beautiful and powerful hard hitting heavy

[past fractal]

Get both of them. Both of them are very good tier 8s

[elder remnant]

IS4 a good tank

[pale minnow]

Prog 46 for credit stonks but Pantera if you don't have gold to buy prog

[silk charm]

prog 46 is still available?

[drifting grove]

60TP? Yeah, it's quite powerful. It's only problems are accuracy and side armour.

[elder remnant]

Side armor damage issues is a problem with most tanks I don’t know one that doesn’t have weak side armor

[drifting grove]

Soviet Heavies and German Heavies have trollish sides. Not invulnerable, but not paper-weak either.
60TP has the IS-4's armour profile, but without the trollish sides.

[elder remnant]

So the IS 4 a good one

[drifting grove]

Weaker gun than 60TP.
60TP is a weaker version of the E100's gun mounted on an IS-4 with weaker sides but a stronger front.

[elder remnant]

Well between IS4 and 60TP which one should I get it’s a hard choice

I am in too power house so I’ll go for 60TP

[drifting grove]

60TP is better by far.

[scarlet kernel]

grinding the american tech tree is more painfull than the british

[elder remnant]

I found jg.pz e100 was a fun one to get

[drifting grove]

Which line in particular?

[scarlet kernel]

all, cause the thing is at least the UK tanks used same module for most of her tanks so you have the option to just skip or get that tank halfway prepared

[amber onyx]

Panther 2 on PC, has a tier 9 gun. The E 50's L/100 gun. Panther 2 in Blitz has an L/71 gun. This gun Unfortunately, Panther 2 is also weak. and so gun small. As seen in the photo the gun is long because it has L/100 on PC. E 50 gun on tier 8.

I wish the l/100 gun would come to panther 2. Because panther 2 deserves that gun. The whole point of the tank is its gun.

E 50 already has this weapon. xd

[blissful hamlet]

The L/71 is sufficient good

203mm of pen, better than some mediums in t8

And good accuracy, 0.288 m

[amber onyx]

Pen not good for a medium. Tier 8 FV301 Light tank has 225 pen.

[narrow shadow]

Well yes but actually no. The gun is not bad, but it's not exceptional either. And the tank doesn't have too many other advantages.

[amber onyx]

This tank need engine buff or weapon buff.

This is still insufficient.

[narrow shadow]

To be fair, I had good experience playing the Panther 2 , and I believe it has been buffed since then too. The gun is not exceptional, but it's quite comfortable, and the armour can be trollish at times.

[amber onyx]

they once tank a buff armor. It's good but still no advantages. This tank need engine or weapon(L/100) buff.

already owns the original L/100.

Also, the tank's skirt armors are ineffective. It has a skirt armor but not taken into calculate. Because collision model not have skirt.

[gloomy rune]

Ah yes the jpanther2

[hollow moth]

It was my first tier X, I didn't know exactly where to be, when to be and how to be an Obj 268.

Hey, I have penetration, thus I must follow heavies"
Hey, I have no armor, but I'm a TD, thus I must camp" (btw, this actually works a bit on 268, you got a nice precision and concealment, but you'll still do low damage)
The last two options didn't work, I hate this tank, might sell it"

• Buy it a again and repeat the last Step *
• Buy it again when git gud *

Bruh this tank is awesome, even tho I spend 18 million credits on it

[solid gate]

hello, what is the difference between the T49 and the T49 Hornet?

[violet timber]

Nope, the Hornet is just a legendary camo

[solid gate]

Oh okay

Because he 2 shot my T49

[granite crater]

yeah... thats is normal

[violet timber]

HE rounds will do that to a light tank

[solid gate]

Oh because I use the rounds normal

[granite crater]

HE is the standard ammo on the T49

[violet timber]

HEAT is the standard ammo

[granite crater]

... yeah sorry, my bad. But people run HE like it is standard

[violet timber]

That’s because the HE is a really good all purpose shell

[violet timber]

I’d load 14 HEAT and 8 HE

[solid gate]

So I put in HE shells?

[granite crater]

well that is just dumb. defeats the entire purpose of the tank

[granite crater]

I run 11/11

[solid gate]

sorry I just finished looking for it I'm looking for the T92E5

[distant nymph]

would anyone like if the TVP VTU got its high (comparably to the 105) 88mm gun? It would become a bit of a pershing

[solid gate]

like that ? For ammunition.

it is good the HE ammunition because it pierces the armor of the TigerII.

[brazen holly]

I’m not sure about HE, HEAT can pen the sides and rear tho

[broken turtle]

except some soviet/chinese ht that have space armor layered on the side to make it thicker to impenetrable in some cases
the lower side hull is thinner, but covered by track so heat won't go through

[solid gate]

I tested on 2 part on the same tank (TigerII) HEAT does not damage that the HE does.

But maybe you're right.

[plucky merlin]

i got myself a obj 260 but how much does it differ from the is7?

so the front is not too much different but sides are worse

i love is7 for the speed and gun so i like the fact that this one improves on it and the armor being weaker is not a very big problem is7 has alot of armor

[solid gate]

T-44-85 or Emil 1951

[plucky merlin]

emil

[solid gate]

Okay

[plucky merlin]

nice they are both slight reskins of other tanks but the emil is nicer in my eyes and a higher tier

[violet timber]

1951 is rather hard to play, but very good when played correctly

[plucky merlin]

t44-85 isnt very different from the t43

[violet timber]

It’s much better than the T43

[plucky merlin]

in looks it is but what does it excel which the t43 sucks in

[violet timber]

Mainly armor.

And mobility.

[plucky merlin]

armor profile also is way better not a brick

[narrow shadow]

The front is paper. AP shells go through the upper plate easily. You can get the occasional bounce, but it's very unreliable. It's like an IS8 with better gun. To be honest, I don't think it's worth it, IS-8 is literally the same tank, except it has 500 less DPM and worse turret armour (But still plenty to fight medium tanks).

[violet timber]

And the guns are the same, but the 44-85 has better penetration

The only thing the T43 has over the 44-85 is gun angles

[plucky merlin]

well uhm i got it and if it isnt worth i got the t22 from the crates as reserve

[narrow shadow]

T-22 is probably the most broken T10 medium tank.. The armour is just stupid, if you reverse sidescrape you can only be HEd, nothing else works.

[plucky merlin]

oh nice

i love the fact that im never lucky with crates since day one of crates and now when i buy obj 260 i get a t22 med too

[modest solar]

Wolverine bad tank, change my mind

[violet timber]

It’s a gun on an angular chassis, angle and let loose

[shell robin]

is it normal for a chi-ri to be spotted behind a bush? is it also normal for a rhm to immediatly activate spall the moment they get shot by he?

[strange thicket]

spall is always active

[rigid thunder]

thats how spall liner works

[violet timber]

1. Chi-Ri is pretty big.
2. Spall liner is a provision, not a consumable

[long tree]

Just wanted to let you know,
VK 72 is unplayable. Need buff. Please consider it.

[violet timber]

It’s not unplayable, just harder to play than the other German superheavies

[shell robin]

oh. i thought spall liner was a consumable. it always pops up like a consumable

[plucky merlin]

t22 med is overrated its average in my eyes

[strange thicket]

no it is a provision
and for the chiri question it depends on what spotted you, you could have been proxy spotted?

[long tree]

There is no interest for players to play it. With 4k damage you can get M maybe. Because no body playing it. Nothing is op with this tank.

[strange thicket]

it is significantly worse lol

[violet timber]

That doesn’t make it unplayable. It’s got some thick frontal armor and 640 alpha

[plucky merlin]

the turret of the vk72 sucks

[shell robin]

i was spotted by the rhm. he was camping at his spawn on dead rail and i got behind the bush overlooking their spawn. I stood still for like 3 seconds, shot him, and he immediately shot me when I thought I should've remained undetected.

[violet timber]

Not sure I’d call this “significantly worse”. These are heavies by relative wr in 8.4 (because that’s the most recent one Blitx Analysis has)

[long tree]

Long reload time
Horrible aiming
Low mobility and slow traverse.
No side scraping. Curvy thing doesn’t let you do it.
It has just the front armor with wide line which is Gray to hit.

[shell robin]

Here's the chi ri battle with an enemy rhm doing magical things.

is the maus overrated?

[violet timber]

The VK 72 is worse than the other German heavies, but it still has thick armor, 640 alpha, and heavy HP.

[long tree]

That’s why never seen in any tournaments and cw. Or even in rating battles. We cannot play like you.

[strange thicket]

the tank is a walking weak spot.
anyone who can aim will absolutely butcher you.
and meds with CS can pen you with prammo frontally
don't you dare to angle to make the front stronger, your sides are easy pen at any angle.
and the turret doesn't allow you to hulldown lol
it got the HP and Alpha going for it

[violet timber]

Maus is just annoying

Angle your VK 72 please

[shell robin]

ok, i'm considering going for maus after E 100

i don't think anyone has that answer

[strange thicket]

neither of those come close to maus damage absorption levels

it is but the armor doesn't work nearly as well

true but the turret and lower plate are way bigger than the maus
you pick E100 over maus for trading capabilities, not damage absorption

[plucky merlin]

fv215b is best damage absorber it takes every shot inside it

[manic carbon]

If you aren’t about 15m or further away behind the bush, you will lose all the concealment bonus that bush is giving you when you fire.
You know when you’re far away enough, because the bush will not be transparent.
If the bush is transparent and you fire, you’re losing most of your camo rating

[strange thicket]

turret cheeks are still a weak spot in that position.

[shell robin]

might as well not even use a bush then

[narrow shadow]

Maus is quite great, it can hold a position extremely well unless it gets rushed.

[strange thicket]

not that small

unless you are going for those cheeks with an IS7, i don't see a problem in hitting them

the entire triangle is a weak spot
and some of the area next to it too
towards the lower area, that is with medium CS heat mind you.

[hard cedar]

No because if you don't shoot you still have the bush camo

[strange thicket]

drive away from the bush in sniper mode till it is no longer transparent, then shoot.

[narrow shadow]

It's not always an option, but it's a neat trick a lot of people don't know. You can get some hackusations when you use it correctly 😂

[strange thicket]

oh yeah, it is really annoying when you are on the receiving end lol.

[shell robin]

i was hackusing an rhm for having a medium tank turret turn rate. that bugger turned a full 180 without moving his hull in 5 seconds

[shell robin]

I heard the french td line is a painful grind, particularly the tier 6 and 8. Is that true still?

[lost comet]

Well t6 isnt horrible, and i dont have the t8 but the t7 is worthless

[thorny smelt]

I'm liking the T34. The gun is quite good, at least for me.

[torpid lagoon]

Will the Tortoise ever get buffed, like the 215B is getting buffed

[violet timber]

Sheridan Missile is a different tank entirely. It is only available in gun modes and still has the ATGMs

[grim notch]

WarThunder 1love

[solid gate]

American or soviet? Im guessing american. Yeah its pretty decent

[lost comet]

Was only available in the update when atgm was removed and an event after

[solid gate]

should I sell type 59 or keep it (I got it on a Germany only account lol)

[high anvil]

Anyone good with the TVP who can give advice? I’m doing good damage in it but can’t seem to translate that into winning games (2300 average and 50% wr, meanwhile I have e50m and Patton at 2200 and 2150 respectively, with 60% and 61% wr, it’s kinda dumb. All 3 over 100 games so not low sample either)

It feels like there just isn’t much you can do in the tank. Just clip and dip, susceptible to being rushed, you can’t really defend and hold a position, can’t hulldown, can’t really lead a push when your teammates are passive

Like the one thing it’s excellent at is late game cleanup but I have to rely on my team to not collapse before then

[valid gale]

@high anvil what do you expect it’s an auto loader by nature they cannot hold or hulldown minus kranvagn they succeed in chipping enemies off and are a force multiplier if one is nearby will cause your enemies to play more cautious or attempt to switch tactics tvp excels at ambushing and chipping

[high anvil]

I don’t think autoloaders are the problem, I’m good with the 50b

[valid gale]

Tvp especially is more scary as it can do 1200 burst damage and relocate quickly it shouldn’t be played aggressively but passively for any opportunities or isolated targets

[soft imp]

Hi. So i saw the Emil 1951 in the market at 20€... Is it actually worth it?

[plucky merlin]

Obj 260 armor is so bad like e50m is even better armored is7 is way better in my eyes

[narrow shadow]

I don't think so. The turret will be penetrated with prammo, the sides are 35mm (Emil 1 has 80mm).. Just seems like the tech tree is better.

[abstract pier]

Hi guys, I wanted to check how your experiences with the KV-2 have been, with the arrival of the new line of tanks and the changes in the mechanics of the game and in the statistics of some tanks? I have felt that they need to reduce their shot time, and you?

[soft imp]

Good to know, Thanks

[warm snow]

hows the T54E1 and T57? considering that line as I got T49

[runic cloud]

It's fun all around imo, 7 isn't as bad as everyone says, play it with the meds, 6 is average but kinda unique in build, 8 you don't have as much armor as advertised

[runic cloud]

T54e1 is eh ok, it has a powerful gun, the T57 is ok but not an easy tank to play in, it's more heavy than the 50b but not enough like the e5

[plucky summit]

Wow it’s almost like it’s not supposed to be fighting heavies, and instead is a medium hunter 😱

[plucky merlin]

Oh no i definitly didnt know that but still the armor is weak af

[torpid lagoon]

I'm still confused on how to play Tanks with rear mounted turrets like how do I play them and keep my armor safe

[wintry orchid]

What tank in particular? I’d say sidesrape if you don’t wanna play vk 72 or fv215b. If it’s one of these two consider not playing them any more until they get buffed

[thorny smelt]

It's the US one. The USSR T-34 has a dash (-).

[solid gate]

Oh yeah i forgot

[real plover]

Is the T-44-85 worth 7 dollars

[torpid lagoon]

like most of them, WT Pz IV I can understand

[thorny smelt]

No

[real plover]

Please give me reasons

[violet remnant]

Is the bofors tornvagn will be added?

[rigid thunder]

nobody knows

[fast compass]

Not anytime soon is my guess

[violet remnant]

Its gonna exist in wot pc

[rigid thunder]

yeah and this game happens to not be wotpc

[misty wing]

which tank has the most rear-mounted turret in the entire game

[charred vigil]

vk 90.01P? maybe

[charred vigil]

Maybe vk 72.01 K too

[misty wing]

alright time to get myself a vk

[charred vigil]

vk90 feels more further back because the tank itself is longer and the turret extends farther than the tank at the rear. But the vk72 is more stubby and its turret ring is literally at the very back of the tank

[thorny smelt]

I cannot side-scrape with VK 72.01 K because the turret basket is quite weak.

[misty wing]

you mean the sides of the hull under the turret?

[thorny smelt]

Yes

[thorny smelt]

This is madness

[onyx sluice]

Its a Löwe that can't angle its armor.

[past crane]

It is thus a Failöwe

[thorny smelt]

Yup. A FaiLowe. An epic FaiLowe

[plucky summit]

At least Lowe can do that job <3

[solid gate]

Lord of huldown

SU-122 with 122mm-M1091/30

[misty wing]

What's the ugliest tier 10 tank

[plucky summit]

It's really your opinion

But I'm sure once you see FV4005 you'll know your answer

[modest solar]

British fridge

[misty wing]

Bruh the 4005 is one of the coolest

[plucky summit]

Okay then uhh

Ho-Ri :)

[misty wing]

ho-ri looks alright
the gun looks nice and I kinda like box tanks

[plucky summit]

Do you want me to stream all of the tier 10 looks so you can decide, or you wanna browse Blitz to see for yourself?

[misty wing]

I personally don't like the look of the progetto 65, it's just way too round and bulbous looking

the m60 is also really ugly imo purely because of the camo that it has that you can't change
but the shape of the tank itself is fine

[plucky summit]

I do agree, the turret doesn't seem to support the build of the hull at all

[misty wing]

also don't really like the batchat and sheridan
bat is too wide and short, sheri too boxy on the hull and the turret doesn't match

[plucky summit]

Alright, I see you've found the means to establishing what tier 10 tank you believe is the ugliest =)

[misty wing]

how about coolest looking tier 10

[plucky summit]

IS-7 stands strong in that regard

I personally really like AMX M4 mle 54 with Code Chaos

[misty wing]

jesus christ that is ugly

[drifting grove]

M-VI-Yoh.

[plucky summit]

Concept 1B looks both cool and ugly as heck

[misty wing]

that is true, forgot about that one

[drifting grove]

Chieftain Mk.6.

[misty wing]

true, imo the vk72 is also ugly and cool at the same time

[plucky summit]

Conway do be ugly

[misty wing]

the conway isn't a tier 10
t-22 is very ugly without the attachment, I recently realized

it looks even better when it's the a5 version from PC
maybe they'll change it to that one when they give it pbr

[nocturne tiger]

Sheessh that is horrible to look at thank god they gave it spaced armour

[misty wing]

I like the e3's looks tbh

[plucky summit]

54 and IS-7 for me

[misty wing]

super conqueror and obj 140 are up there imo

also has nobody mentioned the 263 for the ugly category? It's definitely very polarizing and odd

[modest solar]

At15 have armor or not? Like... Got pen everywhere

[plucky summit]

I like the sturdy sleekness of it

Ugly tanks 101 🤡

Lol, someone had requested a Cruiser IV turret and gun on a de-weaponized SU-122-44 hull

[scarlet kernel]

p a i n why can't it be the same

[plucky summit]

Cuz it's buffed

[scarlet kernel]

i know but, the modules.. why do i have to grind for them

[plucky summit]

Because they're vastly different
T71 uses APCR/HEAT/HE while T37 uses AP/APCR/HE

[scarlet kernel]

look at the british tree, most of them have the same modules so i don't have to grind them anymore after i finished a line

[plucky summit]

Wah wah, grind more

[scarlet kernel]

not counting prem and collector 15

finished the british, soviet, french, jp, two left for german

entire EU on my second acc

[plucky summit]

I avoid lights

[nimble topaz]

the tortoise lmao

is ARL 44 the best tier 6 ? I just started playing the game a week a ago and my best tanks/strongest tanks so far are AT 8 and ARL 44

[plucky summit]

ARL 44 is OP, yes

@mossy heart 😂

[nimble topaz]

lol no... I never got killed by m6 when using arl 44

[plucky summit]

M6 is no way better than ARL 44
I'm sure you liked when you played it though

[nimble topaz]

i have a question about the latest event in AMX M4 mle 54.....

Is the key for the lootbox that costs 1k gold a one time payment or do I still need to buy 1 key for 1 lootbox ?

[nimble topaz]

can someone answer ? I can't tell in youtube lol sad

[plucky summit]

Don't try to get AMX M4

[nimble topaz]

no.. im actually not aiming for that... i think the french TD is better lmao....

[plucky summit]

It's not lol, but your chances are too bad, it's not worth trying

[nimble topaz]

can someone answer please ? 😦

5 days to go and t34s is mine for free... just sharing lol

[plucky summit]

Fine I'll pull up the game again ._.

[rigid thunder]

each key is consumed once you open a box, if that's what you're asking

[granite crater]

you need a 1 key for 1 lockbox

[nimble topaz]

oh okay tysm

[plucky summit]

Oh you worded it confusingly, oof

[nimble topaz]

can someone check my next question in #gravity lmao... thnx

[pallid tiger]

Thanks wot for the promo😋

[scarlet kernel]

out of all these any suggestion what should i get or get back?

[pallid tiger]

FV215??

[misty wing]

263 or e50m imo

[plucky summit]

LOL BIG BRUH
I already have the tank

[nimble topaz]

how much gold did you spent ?

[misty wing]

lmao you know a tank is fake when it's the vk 90.01 (P) in blitz but the vk 75.01 (K) in PC

[plucky summit]

I spent 1000 gold and 3 bucks total

[pallid tiger]

Luck👍

[plucky summit]

Yup yup

My luck has been insane lately, and I'm so grateful ^-^

[misty wing]

I got a t55a and amx defender from mystery crates today

[nimble topaz]

are the weakspots in the tanks in WOT the same in WOTB ? Im actually using tanks.gg when finding weakspots in WOT 😄

[plucky summit]

I've said a decent number of times my time with mystery boxes lol

[plucky summit]

I mean, generally weakspots are always the cupola, lower plate (most of the time), sides, and rear

It's generally the same so

[misty wing]

It's generally the same but wotb has been deviating more from PC lately in that regard I think

[nimble topaz]

is FV215b 183 the best tank in the game or maus ?

[granite crater]

load prammo and stop caring about weakspots

[misty wing]

maus

[plucky summit]

Unlike WOT, Blitz punishes prammo with alpha reduction

[nimble topaz]

is AT8 an OP tank in its tier? (tier 6)

[granite crater]

also 183 is atrocious and the worst tier 10. Also maus is definitely not the best tier 10

[plucky summit]

Neither. There should not be and there isn't a best tank in the game

And no, AT 8 is kind of bad

[nimble topaz]

why is AT8 a bad tank ? i mean I only lose when team is noob and Im the only one left in the team.... AT8 has a good front armor and gun reload and penetration.... and when light tanks go in my butt to kill me 😦

[misty wing]

wonder if the sheridan is gonna get this weird stuff on the front when they make it PBR

[plucky summit]

AT 8 is heavily reliant on teammates to devour any flanks against it

That's a bad thing

[granite crater]

better to pen with prammo then spend several seconds exposed, with the uncertainty of actually managing to hit the weakspot

[nimble topaz]

which premium tank is better to buy ? Excelsior or Pz. v/iv....

[plucky summit]

With clever tier 10 plays, prammo barely helps either, you still aim for a weakspot most of the time

[plucky summit]

Buy neither, higher tier premiums are better to profit from. Both of them are meh anyways

[nimble topaz]

what's the best premium tank ?

[misty wing]

concept 1b

[nimble topaz]

sorry I have too many questions... Im new to WOTB :(

[plucky summit]

Not a premium (yet, but it may be just a collector's tank)

For profit, look nowhere other than the Lowe :D

[misty wing]

jk, but the emil 1951 for $20 is actually a decent deal right now imo if you can afford it

[misty wing]

If you're new learn the game first though, don't buy your way into the higher tiers

[plucky summit]

Keep in mind, there's not just a "best tank" per se, game balance is a thing in Blitz

[nimble topaz]

is french tech tree heavies good except its tech tree from tiers 7 - 10 ? I mean Im kinda doing good with it... victory rate is 64% and most killed is 6

[plucky summit]

AMX M4 45 is pretty decent
AMX 50 100 is hard to play for newer players, you may struggle a lot
AMX 50 120 also has that issue
AMX 50 B is solid, but if you haven't learned how to play like the last two tanks, you're gonna have problems

[nimble topaz]

can nashorn and st. emil penetrate the front armor of at8? or nashorn cant but st. emil can?

[misty wing]

they can

[plucky summit]

Nashorn and St. Emil can pretty effectively penetrate AT 8

[nimble topaz]

wait AMX M4 45 is good??!!??!? I see most of my teamates with that tank dies first lol.... Its sides are kinda weak TBH.... even when Im using arl44.... i think its a no for me 😦

[plucky summit]

Yeah don't angle much at all unless you know the penetration mechanics like auto-ricochet angles

AMX 50 B shouldn't be a first line for you, IS-7 or E100 is a good choice

[nimble topaz]

Which is better IS7 or ST2 ?

[plucky summit]

ST-II does not exist in WoTB

[thorny smelt]

IS-7 is quite popular

[rigid thunder]

and for good reason

[plucky summit]

Kinda funny how suddenly the ammo rack isn't an issue

It's almost like it wasn't actually a big issue with it in the first place 🤷‍♂️

[rigid thunder]

b-but hehe ammorack funny!!!!11!1

[plucky summit]

Yeah, but it doesn't happen often :p

[rigid thunder]

or you could just run protective kit + improved modules and remove that problem completely

[plucky summit]

Not completely, but still, not a problem in the first place

[rigid thunder]

talking more about getting racked in a single hit, but yeah the ammorack placement was never terrible

[misty wing]

Not gonna recommend the 60tp as a first line?

[plucky summit]

Yeah I suppose it's fine
Actually has a rack problem ;)

[nimble topaz]

how to ammorack vk 36.01h while using arl 44?

i found its ammo rack but it doesn't explode.... it only says AMMO RACK CRIT.

[plucky summit]

Yeah you gotta shoot it again

Don't go for racks unless you easily can, just focus of getting damage

[nimble topaz]

same goes with TOG 2 please

[rigid thunder]

that's how module damage works, guns of low caliber are usually incapable of instantly detonating a full hp ammorack

[nimble topaz]

what should I load ? AP, HE, or APCR (please not APCR looool)

[rigid thunder]

Module damage isn't affected by shell type, but if I'm not mistaken HE shell penetrations are likely to damage to more modules (not more damage) due to their splash radius.

[nimble topaz]

is 60tp good?

[plucky summit]

Absolutely, it's a meta (first pick) tank

[nimble topaz]

oh okay

Im grinding UK TDs, FRENCH HEAVIES, and RUSSIAN TDs.... is that a bad choice or a good one ?

[plucky summit]

Which Russian TDs?

He mentioned AT 8 a lot @misty wing

[misty wing]

also which uk TDs lol

[nimble topaz]

im still at tier 5 lol

[plucky summit]

Well don't go for Obj. 263, do 268

[nimble topaz]

the ATs

[nimble topaz]

noted 😄

[plucky summit]

Also when you get SU-152, keep the left-most gun, it's the best

[misty wing]

I somehow suck in the 268 when I was good in the 704

[plucky summit]

Lol my highest game was in the 704, like 6.8k damage

[nimble topaz]

this one ?

[plucky summit]

yes

[nimble topaz]

k

how to not suck at playing RUS TDs???

cause I played SU85 for 3 games straight and neither one did I survived at nor won the match ;-; im grinding su100 xD

are the chinese TDs good?? referring to the WZs lol... cause I think can penetrate almost every part of my arl44 lmao except when I angle my self

[plucky summit]

They're not really, just a good gun (though in the end, armor comes into play)

[nimble topaz]

SU 152 and ISU 152 are basically the same in armor right ? the difference are their speed and gun? or just speed

[plucky summit]

ISU-152 is far better against high caliber HE shells
The gun is the major difference, as ISU has over double the penetration of SU-152 with AP shells

[nimble topaz]

but same armor ?

[plucky summit]

"ISU-152 is far better against high caliber HE shells"
ISU has better armor, but it only matters against itself and other 152mm guns

[nimble topaz]

lol ok

[drifting grove]

I've had some great battles with it, but I'm hating it this morning.
Its gun is very inaccurate, so if RNG isn't on your side, you're going to struggle to do any damage at all, which has been the case for me this morning.

[misty wing]

should I buy the grille or stb
leaning grille since I already have lots of meds

[nimble topaz]

same q

[drifting grove]

Probably my best battle yet.
Still no Ace though. Sadge.

[worthy leaf]

Medal stonks

[drifting grove]

Yeah.
No Ace. Sadge.

[worthy leaf]

I dunno

[misty wing]

just bought 17 mystery containers and got 3 mystery certificates lmaooo

too bad they were all low tier trash

[plucky summit]

Oof, I had 25, got 3, all tier 10s

[misty wing]

wait I just got 3 more from another 17 lul

[plucky summit]

nice

[misty wing]

kanonenjagdpanzer, badger, and tog 2 this time

[plucky summit]

Pog, I got Badger too

All three are interesting tanks at least

[strange thicket]

i got badger on 2 different accounts
sold it in the end.
it is kinda wancky the way it plays

[plucky summit]

It does have this weird effect

You're hiding the lower plate like a boss, then two tanks easily snap pen you and you realize it's not actually hidden

[misty wing]

mystery containers are actually kinda nice

[plucky summit]

RNG has been crazy nice to me lately 😅
It's flattering, really

[strange thicket]

superstructure isn't really impenetrable too.
and the gun likes to troll me more than it should

[plucky summit]

I got crazy good RNG with my gun, rico-pens and all
But people are 3CR passing my sides like crazy 😂

[strange thicket]

glad it is working for you
but i hated it 😅

[misty wing]

I was hoping for a t-22, 907, or vk 90
But I'll take the badger

[plucky summit]

Oh trying to hide that LFP is a nightmare, yeah, but oh well

Lol the other two was T-22 and 90 oof

[misty wing]

wish the badger had higher dpm and better gun arc like it does on PC

[plucky summit]

I think it's balanced, just heavy meta giving it a hard time

[strange thicket]

it would be balanced with its PC stats but nerfed down a bit.
now it is just situational really

[misty wing]

where the heck do I push a badger on canal

[plucky summit]

I just go cap and hope my meds do their job LOL

[strange thicket]

lmao

[misty wing]

lmao I just drove into their spawn, killed a camping tortoise, and then died

[plucky summit]

Today I tried and it all fell apart because meds insisted on fighting A side
BatChat and WZ-121 easy pickings on my side

[misty wing]

it's actually more mobile than I thought though

wonder if we'll be able to buy stuff for the concept 1b with gold or just money

[plucky summit]

It's a snow globe tank soooo
Lotsa gold if you want more chances

[misty wing]

ok but the key word is you can get snow globes with gold?

[plucky summit]

Well, that's how mle worked anyways

Welp, good night, it's 3AM, and I have two exams after technically today 😂

[misty wing]

👋

[thorny smelt]

RIP wallet

[rapid field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zaw_51AZSI

Worth a watch 😉

[drifting grove]

My experience with the 60TP this morning has been the opposite.

[slow gazelle]

Hey , why kv1s its so hard to grind

Im using stock gun

[strange thicket]

every stock tank is hard to grind

[slow gazelle]

And sometime i win , im only get few reward and how on earth that im gonna get 20k exp to get the gun , this game so frustrating im almost rage quit

[thorny smelt]

IS-4 line: evil laugh

[slow gazelle]

Any tips maybe

[strange thicket]

you can use freexp you accumulated on your other tanks

[slow gazelle]

Use gold?

[thorny smelt]

Grind the IS-7 line since they share the same set of guns.

[strange thicket]

no
FXP
this

[slow gazelle]

Oh I already use all that in other tank

[strange thicket]

you use it to research modules on stock tanks.
don't use it to research tanks themselves

or you can use combat XP boosters to speed up the process

[slow gazelle]

Hmmmm this game made me headache , im gonna try

[strange thicket]

put down the game for a bit and then come back later

[fallen heron]

I wonder how many variants of M4 Sherman are there in WOTB

[misty wing]

m4, easy 8, sherman jumbo, m4a2e4, loza's sherman, fury, sherman firefly, firefly saunder SP, m4/fl10, m4a1 revalorise
those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head

[solid gate]

dont forget t14

[worthy leaf]

T14 just fat sherman

[thick trout]

There's also the Sherman V, T6E1 and Rudolph

[solid gate]

mhm mhm sigh
@thick trout
i want sherman V

[misty wing]

is the m60 good

Tried to free xp the entire 60tp line but I came up 100k short rippp

[stuck needle]

Ram II aswell?

[violet timber]

There’s also technically the M10 which is a modified Sherman hull

[thick trout]

Idek if the Sherman V exists in people's garages there's a chance it may have been completely yeeted in 5.5

And yeah I forgot about the ram and technically the Y5 firefly if you want to be very generous with the definition

[radiant matrix]

is is4 still good now?

[violet timber]

Yup

[solid gate]

hmm sadge i kinda want it hmm

[junior ravine]

Not every stock tank is hard to grind. example: stock waffentrager auf pz.iv has good gun, good accuracy and the overall stats does perform really well.

The second example is SU-122-54 it has 2715 DPM on its stock gun.

[solid gate]

I fcking hate su85 and su100... Worth it when i get su 152 and isu tho

[lyric copper]

skill issue

[solid gate]

I guess ;-;
They are the only russians that i rlly hate.. kinda boring to play em :l

[torpid lagoon]

Should I?

[solid gate]

Is super con good?

[onyx sluice]

No.

[onyx sluice]

Yes.

[grizzled sky]

What is the most fun line of light tanks

[onyx sluice]

Probably Sheridan?

[hard cedar]

bc and Sheri are both fun imo Vickers is just generic

[hollow moth]

Bad tank -> unfunny/challenging (Chaffee)
Meh tank -> can have its good moments (T28 HTC)
Good tank -> satisfatory, but becomes boring (Löwe)
Extremely good tank -> will become boring at some point (ISU-152)
Slow tank -> you won't like it regardless of how good it is (T95)
Fast tanks -> Borderline. You either will love it or you'll hate it (AMX CDC)

[lyric oriole]

Löwe is not good

[hard cedar]

I don't think isu counts as extremely good

[grizzled sky]

Aren't some premium

[hollow moth]

Shh, Löwe IS good

@hard cedar that's the best gun in tier 8, there's nothing to discuss

[lyric oriole]

It's actually just accurate

That's all it is

[hard cedar]

Best gun ≠ best tank

[lyric oriole]

The best gun in tier 8 goes to one of the auto loading tanks

[hollow moth]

Enormous DPM, high penetration and high alpha, with equipements the precision becomes satisfiable. There still nothing to discuss

[grizzled sky]

So about this Lowe, Which country is it from?

[lyric oriole]

German

[hollow moth]

Notice that I didn't say best tank, but extremely good

[hard cedar]

Crap gun handling, armor is bad, mobility is meh, no turret

[lyric oriole]

Yes, there is nothing to discuss about Löwe or ISU

[hollow moth]

The gun covers it all. It's the so called "all or nothing". Best gun for just useful enough armor and mobility

[tight blaze]

has anyone got an amx m4 from lockbox?

[hard cedar]

no, a good gun on a bad platform doesn't mean the tank is good

[misty wing]

ISU is far from an extremely good tank

[manic carbon]

I’ve been playing the ISU recently and the gun can be really troll. Gun handling is meh and being a slow turning turretless TD with a small HP pool can make it frustrating.
I don’t think the tank is bad, but it sacrifices a lot for what it does have

[wise moth]

Well, by my math, you’d need about 21.8 lock boxes on average to get a 98% chance of getting an AMX M4 54 @tight blaze

[onyx sluice]

Are you sure about this? Don't the boxes have only a 3% chance to drop blueprints for any one of the tanks?

[hard cedar]

No, 3% for the tank 100% to get some parts

[wise moth]

The store gives details on all the drop chances. There’s a 3% chance to drop the tank outright, 5.54% chance for 10 parts, 4.43% chance for 20 parts, and 3.88% chance for 30 parts

[misty wing]

I'm about to get the 13 57 twice but I haven't gotten anything else ;-;

[dusty dawn]

Q: best T5=T7 tanks in the store atm?

[violet timber]

No HP

[wise moth]

Also, for those that are curious, if you want to get an AMX CDA 105, expect to buy >36 lock boxes for a ~90% chance of getting the tank

[misty wing]

I'm sitting at 90 parts for it after like 13 boxes lul

[wise moth]

All tanks in the game use rifled guns. WG won’t add smoothbores to the game

No, that gun is rifled. It’s the same gun as the Sheridan, which is also rifled

[lyric oriole]

This is a curiosity question btw

*what about the pre 1900s cannon on The Tier 4 frenchie

[wise moth]

The only “smoothbore” gun in the game is on the Chieftain/T95, which historically has a smoothbore 90mm gun (hence why its “APCR” shell is APFSDS), but in-game, WG cheated and added “(rifled)” to the name of the gun in game

[lyric oriole]

This gun

[calm drum]

FlickY#5869 was banned

[wise moth]

That’s the quick firing 75mm made notorious during WWI. It’s rifled

[lyric oriole]

Ok, good to know, I'm guessing it was light artillery that also had a direct fire role?

[wise moth]

Yeah, it was a direct fire field gun

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_modèle_1897

[misty wing]

Is the AMX defender good

[bitter zinc]

yep

[wise moth]

It’s ok. It’s basically a 13 90 with a little less alpha/clip potential, and extra pen

[solar crown]

So I want to know if 60tp is worth grinding iam a heavy main
I have this rng of missing shots with the most accurate guns ( few times but not very often) so will the 60tp fit my style

[wise moth]

60TP is a good tank. Tough turret, big gun, what’s not to like?

60TP, IS-7, and M VI Yoh are basically the 3 meta heavies right now

[lyric copper]

the gun is apparently a rollercoaster of a time

you can miss at point blank, or hit a moving target at +200m

[solar crown]

So iam currently grinding for the jageroo and I need 70k exp more in jagdtiger to research the jageroo but I only have 3 mill credits
Guess I'll grind it after that and btw is the grind good even with stock tanks or should I free xp some modules I have 100k free xp

[violet timber]

I thought it had more clip potential because of 4 shells instead of 3?

[hard cedar]

No 13 90 has more clip potential 225x3 vs 160x4

Oml i can't type
Anyway

[violet timber]

Oh dang it is, my bad

[misty wing]

the cda is so nice

[obsidian berry]

i finished the TP grind anyone have a good grind suggestion?

[solar crown]

Is the grind good

[obsidian berry]

yes

[solar crown]

So are stock tanks playable or should I free xp the modules

[obsidian berry]

upgrade modules

[solar crown]

So next grind for is7 or m6yoh

[obsidian berry]

the guns are trash sometimes armour good but research modules

[solar crown]

I have 100k free xp will it be enough for the whole grind

[obsidian berry]

no

basicalle use the free xp for modules

[solar crown]

Iam gonna start the grind soon

[obsidian berry]

the tonks from tier 6-10 are op just the module grind is pain especially the 50 tp gun so save free xp

[solar crown]

Ok thanks mate
And next you can grind
Is7
M6yoh
E100
Amx 50b
Kran
All are very good tanks

[obsidian berry]

all heavys i see

[jagged spruce]

e 100 or jp e100 which one

[misty wing]

e100 is probably better because of the HP and turret

[sly orbit]

IS7

[misty wing]

lul

I heard this thing is kinda mediocre though?

[violet timber]

It’s a pretty good heavy, just don’t show the sides

[hollow belfry]

It has rather awkward armor, also very tall so sometimes struggle even with 8° of depression. But it can get the job done :)

[violet timber]

Turret is basically impenetrable from the front

[hollow belfry]

300 mm is actually very pennable, it's also quite flat around the mantlet :(

[violet timber]

The mantlet is pretty much impenetrable to everything, including Cali HEAT from a Jageroo

[hollow belfry]

(Misread apologies)

[violet timber]

I've tested it with someone who has the AMX M4 54. The mantlet is impenetrable to Jageroo HEAT, even with calibrated shells

[hollow belfry]

The entire stripe under the mantlet is pennable for anything over 340 mm of pen, thus a jageroo too

Woopsie misreading here lol

[violet timber]

That’s not the mantlet though, that’s below the mantlet

[misty wing]

since when could heat even pen mantlets at all

[violet timber]

Since Jageroo had 418mm of HEAT pen with Cali

[hollow belfry]

But the turret itself is pretty pennable, referring to the stripe under the mantlet

[violet timber]

It is pennable, but the strip itself is rather small

[hollow belfry]

It would surprise you how often some random 183 hits it for me xd

Maybe that's only personally

[violet timber]

I haven’t faced enough of them to really say how good my rng is against them

[plucky summit]

The gun mantlet and past is over 460mm thick nominally

Nobody will ever penetrate it.

I love the mle 54

[jagged spruce]

thx

[quasi mirage]

nope it has 640, 13 90 has 675

[violet timber]

Yup, didn’t do actual math before saying anything

[steady loom]

Its ok. The 54. People will just slap HE into your turret though. Still does 300 everytime someone does it.

[plucky summit]

Idk how much you're exposing YOUR turret roof.

I just hide it with gun depression

[steady loom]

People have shot my gun mantle with HE and still done 300+ to it.

[plucky summit]

The lower part I assume, because it's splashing on your deck

[steady loom]

No idea tbh. I just grumble when it happens. The tank is very 1 dimentional. Any other situation other then a gentle hill its pretty bad

[plucky summit]

Dang that almost reminds me of literally IS-4 and T110E5

[steady loom]

Apart from they can actually sidescrape and have decent troll tracks and side armor. The 54 does not.

[plucky summit]

T110E5 sidescraping? LOL

[steady loom]

Yeah? You have pretty fat tracks that can eat shots

[plucky summit]

The newly occurring penetration mechanic makes tracks pretty threatening to your hull armor, and E5's thin sides won't hold that well

It already fails against Nashorn's AP without even hiding the LFP yet

[fast compass]

E5 sidescraping is pretty funny tho. You see all those hit points wiff away

[violet timber]

Front track wheel go brrrrrrr

[plucky summit]

I know mle 54 is a one-trick pony, but it does the job very well at that

Not to mention it's extremely threatening in a facehug to short HEAT tanks

[steady loom]

There are better heavy tanks. Thats all i am saying tbh

[plucky summit]

Well I'm sure the 300 HE splashes on your turret will be a rare problem :p

[steady loom]

Well thats its other issue. Fulll HE rolls on the side and rear.

[plucky summit]

The sides of the hull are fine if the enemy tries close combat, it's the turret that's the problem, try to keep a single target engaged on you, or keep multiple enemies within a short angular range so they cant hit your side

[hard cedar]

Thanks bro

[steady loom]

Easier said then done with how bad teams are atm

[plucky summit]

Tell me a tank that can win without its teammates

Uh huh.

[steady loom]

Well none but my point was its hard being in a perfect situation with tanks like the 54. Its niche is ridge fighting. Cool. But thats no good if your team lets a flank fall and you get clapped.

[plucky summit]

Yeah, same problem as my lovely Badger 😔

[steady loom]

I prefer my is7. Complete troll armor.

[thick trout]

Most tanks are pretty bad when they get flanked...

[plucky summit]

I haven't played IS-7 much at all recently, but I know it's good

[steady loom]

The side armor is very troll

[plucky summit]

I think it's great if the enemy gets lazy, but I don't rely on it

[thick trout]

It's so obnoxiously op it ends the debate between IS7 vs IS4, the turret buff helped good players and the side buff helped bad players who made mistakes

[plucky summit]

Lol, I was always on its side 🤪

[thick trout]

Me too but don't tell anyone 👀

[steady loom]

Low dpm and trash gun handling make up for it tbh

[plucky summit]

I am proud for it.

Nice to see big daddy Russia rule again

[misty wing]

laughs in 60tp

[steady loom]

Ew.

[plucky summit]

60TP shut up all of the #Don'tBuyIS-7 people
So I'm happy for that

[thick trout]

460 alpha, speed and average armour made up for it, now it has stupid armour it is completely unbalanced

[steady loom]

I dont really see too many is7s dominating tbh. I see far more e100s and 60tps

Not to mention the is7 cant fight on a ridgeline

[plucky summit]

They dominate comp o-o

[thick trout]

6° is plenty to fight on a ridgeline, and just because you don't see it, it doesn't mean it isn't there...

[steady loom]

Well i am glad its actually a relevent tank. Its about time it was good.

[misty wing]

It always was pretty good

[thick trout]

It was good before the buff, now it's op

[plucky summit]

I like how someone on YT posted that the ammo rack was invincible/didn't exist while I watch him narrowly miss it every shot

[steady loom]

Whats op about it though. You can still pen its lower plate and pike pretty easy from what i have seen?

[plucky summit]

Ok if any IS-7 angles at all without cover, they're playing it wrong

[misty wing]

Lower plate is easily hidden, and the main OP thing is how stupidly troll the sides are

[plucky summit]

Turret 100

[thick trout]

And tbh it's still strong even then:

[plucky summit]

Okay it's a negative bell curve on the effectiveness, angling slightly is worse than not angling or angling a full 90

[steady loom]

So its op hull down. Like a bunch of other heavies

[misty wing]

It's more idiot proof than the rest of them, and faster

Plus there was the e5 and kran nerfs

[plucky summit]

IS-4 lost traverse too, right?

[thick trout]

Actually depending on the gun you are against (and very counterintuitively) it can get stronger when angled a little which I find very interesting

[plucky summit]

Well I meant just the upper plate 😅

[misty wing]

Yeah against meds angling is pretty effective since it will make your lower plate stronger while the upper plate should still remain impenetrable

[steady loom]

In before med loads heat

[misty wing]

Also have they buffed the is-6 in the past year or so? I just fought one and it seems stronger than I remembered

[steady loom]

Didnt it get a buff?

I swear they buffed that things armor

[thick trout]

It's currently almost impenetrable hulldown, exceptionally strong with its lower plate hidden, obnoxiously troll when shooting the side at any angle, with a punchy gun and a lot of speed. The only downsides are bad aim time, bad traverse and bad prammo pen which is very insignificant

I think the IS6 was buffed maybe two years ago? It was before the IS6 fearless became the reward tank for ratings but I don't know how long before

[steady loom]

Bad prem ammo, traverse and bad aim time are pretty big deals lol

[misty wing]

One time I penned a hull-down is-7 twice in my ho-ri while he bounced both of his shots
was pretty funny

[steady loom]

Its fun losing fights because your gun wont behave

[misty wing]

Also
does anyone else find it odd how without the camo, the 260 is called "Obj. 260" but when you have the legendary camo, it becomes "Object 260 Pike"
like if anything, it makes more sense to shorten the obj when you do have the camo

[thick trout]

Errrmmmm no? Bad aim time means you need to sit in your impenetrable position for a second longer, below average prammo means you can't meme pen any heavy in a good position you find (aka don't play stupidly) and bad traverse means you need to plan ahead slightly more than other tanks

[plucky summit]

I shall find the update info on IS-6
I believe it was a 10mm buff to the upper plate

[steady loom]

Bad aim time and gun handling makes your already poor dpm worst. Enjoy missing half your shots

[plucky summit]

I hit most of my shots, I aim :p

[misty wing]

I mean, 60TP, e100, and vk72 probably have worse gun handling

[steady loom]

Give the poor vk 72 some love please

[plucky summit]

It's equal to E100

[fast compass]

Yep. 7.1 +10mm

[steady loom]

That poor thing gets no attention :[

[plucky summit]

Well, IS-7 has it better when moving and stuff but the two big parts are equal

[misty wing]

reduce vk's weight so it has better mobility
it's kinda stupid how a tank meant to weigh 72 tons is 119 tons in game

[steady loom]

I lol when vk 72s try to sidescrape and you just go through those rear lumps

[plucky summit]

Yeah, they nerfed the sides from 160mm, not only part is 160mm

I wish they didn't nerf it at all lol

[misty wing]

pray that it gets better with pbr

[plucky summit]

Every other tank has benefited :D

[steady loom]

Should i be worried about the concept then?

[plucky summit]

Oh absolutely

[steady loom]

Its turret....like what. Where do you even shoot that.

[misty wing]

watch as they nerf the gun depression to 0 degrees

[plucky summit]

There are 4 tiny places to hit if you play like "you miss every shot you don't take"

[steady loom]

Oh yeah. The poor vk 72 suffers more because the vk 90 exists too lmao

Does the concept turret even have a cupola to shoot?

[misty wing]

I don't think so

[plucky summit]

VK 90 is so busted, I got 3 tanks rushing me but I held great because

1. There was the small ledge coming up on the highway, it hid my LFP greatly
2. They didn't actually full-out rush me

Also allied 60TP was super wholesome and told me how well I held ^-^

[misty wing]

I had a guy compliment me in my CDA even though I was only having an average game lul

[steady loom]

The vk 90 is darn good ye

[plucky summit]

He prolly liked the new tank :D

[steady loom]

Btw those japanese heavies look broke x.x

[plucky summit]

Flat plates, that's fine.

[misty wing]

I've gotten all of the lockbox tanks except the 30 1er lmao

[steady loom]

30 1er is great. Love that thing

[plucky summit]

I got the mle again, I wanted CDA =(

[misty wing]

yeah mle dropped for me, I got lucky with cda parts though

[steady loom]

2 mles lmao

[plucky summit]

I swear it's more than 3%

[misty wing]

I've been seeing so many of them recently
wonder if it's all people who got it dropped

[steady loom]

Yes most likely

They were never a common sight

[misty wing]

honestly I don't see myself playing it often even if I had it, since I have a 30b and I kinda hate tier 9

[plucky summit]

Yeah it's almost 100% chance someone would ask me about it every TR I go into lol

[steady loom]

I dont really touch mine. I mostly dislike tier 10

[plucky summit]

Tier 10 is my favorite to play, 8 to grind credits

[misty wing]

tier 10 is the best tier simply because you can't get uptiered

[steady loom]

Tier 6 is hell

[misty wing]

the only bad part about tier 10 is TD/autoloader spam taking over the matchmaking
it's incredibly rare to find a balanced team where you're not lacking a certain role

[plucky summit]

Actual scouts :p

[steady loom]

Or is tier 7 worst...because then you get the magic tier 7 tanks and the tier 8 premium spam

[misty wing]

tier 7 and 9 both get uptiered a lot, but 7 has the anni and smasher so...

[plucky summit]

Tier 6 is worse because you fight OP tier 7s all the time

[steady loom]

I hate smashers so much

[plucky summit]

I love bullying then >:)

[misty wing]

I hate light tanks more than anything

[steady loom]

I miss my troll sheridan missles ;-;

[misty wing]

especially when it's the t49 on your team who goes into town and suicides, or sits in a corner camping all game

[steady loom]

Love when a t49 is going full speed and claps your weakspot with HE

[violet timber]

Imagine not knowing how to light tank properly

[misty wing]

light tank is very hit or miss for me, sometimes I do great and sometimes I get careless and stray too far from my team and die

[steady loom]

Some heavy tanks have too much spotting range i think

[plucky summit]

I just don’t play lights because I’d rather have a less niche but more practical light: mediums

[misty wing]

I'm actually really enjoying the badger lol, I just wish it had the high pen HE that other high tier british tanks have

yeah meds are just more versatile
E50M is my personal favorite

[steady loom]

Fv 4202 gang :D

[misty wing]

I don't have one unfortunately
I'm an HE addict though so I should probably get one

[steady loom]

HE go brrrrr

[plucky summit]

I love ol reliable heavies

The Lowe and mle 54 both fit my playstyle of using armor profiles advantageously while having a nice solid gun

[misty wing]

imagine if the lowe and vk72 swapped shapes
so you'd have a lowe with a 150mm and thicker armor at tier 10
and a weaker vk72 with a 105 at tier 8

[violet timber]

Badger can actually be incredibly good

[steady loom]

Isnt there a premium vk 72 at tier 8 on wot pc with a 128mm gun?

[misty wing]

nah, there's a tier 10 vk72 with a 128mm called Pz.Kpfw VII though

[steady loom]

Ohh

[past crane]

You mean the vk75, that’s basically the vk90

[steady loom]

I am thinking of the vk 75. Which is our vk 90 but at tier 8. Yeye that train ,^^

[misty wing]

what's better, the badger or the tortoise

[steady loom]

Badger for sure. That poor tort needs an armor buff...or at least remove the stupid machine gun turret

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, let's compare a tier 9 with a tier 10 version of it ._.
No, don't bring up Grille 15

[misty wing]

I remember the wargaming wiki used to say the tortoise had "armor angled as thick as the maus"

[plucky summit]

I mean it's 228mm thick, with enhanced armor that's basically the turret of the Maus right there'

[violet timber]

Skoda vs TVP

[timber roost]

This tank is enjoyable

[manic carbon]

Tier for tier, at least the Badger has a frontal armour profile that isn’t completely useless

[misty wing]

how about the tortoise vs the turtle

[manic carbon]

the Tortoise v Jagdtiger comparison really paints the picture

[plucky summit]

Eesh...

[steady loom]

The tort and jagdtiger could both use a buff

[violet timber]

Ummmm no, the Tort could, JagdTiger is fine as is

[misty wing]

tort is supposed to have the second highest dpm in the game and badger the highest

[plucky summit]

Jagd is cracked xDDD

[wind dune]

i love the Object 268

[plucky summit]

I love you
I meant yoh ;)

[manic carbon]

Jag is fine, Tortoise needs something

[wind dune]

just bought it and its just pure love

[plucky summit]

Yeah, gotta love a solid TD all around

[wind dune]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[plucky summit]

What's scary?

How well balanced the Obj. 268 is? 👀

[wind dune]

my game just crashed, and i was pressing a

[plucky summit]

Oh LOL

[wind dune]

xD

[steady loom]

Huh suprised tbh. Considering how poor the jags armor is

[plucky summit]

The Jag's armor is good 🤨

[wind dune]

game crash 0 damage in 2nd game :c bye bye average damage

[plucky summit]

Nothing a few good battles can't fix!

[manic carbon]

Jag armour is fine. Meanwhile Tortoise sitting there with an armour profile anyone can easily go through even if it’s in a full tier 8 game

[wind dune]

are you sure? :c

[steady loom]

Is it? Never had problem penning a jag o.O

[plucky summit]

You see, it has a 262mm casemate, and a 189mm upper frontal plate. It's great really, just prammo spammed (which is still good)

@wind dune of course :D

[steady loom]

I think the waffle is a better TD

[plucky summit]

Oh absolutely, but Jagdtiger is far from bad

[wind dune]

jadgtiger is extremly good for amateurs, waffle is extremly good for pros

[plucky summit]

A well positioned Jagd is a threat, especially with the crazy DPM

[steady loom]

Its a shame everyone can and does pen it with heat

[plucky summit]

Hey, that's just like 20% damage reduction all the way :p

[steady loom]

Idk man. Reminds me of the ferdi. On paper its armor is good but it just doesnt feel that way

[wind dune]

3rd match with obj 268 wish me luck

[plucky summit]

Good luck ^-^

[steady loom]

Isnt the foch a better 268?

[plucky summit]

Nope, the autoloader just kills it

[steady loom]

How so?

[wind dune]

i have both, and i dont think you can compare them with each other at all

[plucky summit]

Obj. 268 is far less frontline-y than Foch 155

[wind dune]

true

[plucky summit]

The 560 alpha isn't threatening and not fast enough to dump without paying a price of HP, and it lacks the HP to trade off with even 122mm heavies

It can struggle to keep up with mediums too

[steady loom]

Least it has some workable armor

[plucky summit]

268's armor profile is more intended to throw off enemies when they bounce
Again, it's more of a sniper or a shot-runner like Foch, but more evasive

[steady loom]

My personal most enjoyable td is the wz 113g ft

[plucky summit]

Mine is SU-152
I do like 183 though

[wind dune]

most enjoyable TD 100% the SU 152

[plucky summit]

I had by worst team-best game in it :p

[steady loom]

Most e100 drivers are nubs tbh

[plucky summit]

It's a tank fit for newer players, of course lots of them drive it

[wind dune]

e100 is actually bad

[steady loom]

Wouldnt say its a good newbie tank

[plucky summit]

It's balanced, if not better than balanced :p

[steady loom]

You have to learn how to angle properly in it

[plucky summit]

Yes but the sheer alpha and HP make it a good trader
A good quality for newer players, a gun that is intimidating, but an HP pool that forgives mistakes

[violet timber]

I hate the E100 with a passion

[steady loom]

Why?

[wind dune]

e100 needs a buff

[violet timber]

You can angle the turret perfectly, do nothing wrong, and still get penetrated by prammo

[plucky summit]

Decently low skill ceiling, probably

It doesn't need a buff though

[steady loom]

Its not a very good tank tbh

[plucky summit]

Again, it's good for newer players, not great players

[violet timber]

E100 is a good tank due to alpha and hp

[steady loom]

New players get torn apart in the e100 though

[plucky summit]

Yes but they have the HP to survive more shots that they would in an IS-7 or so

[steady loom]

They drive around thinking they have god armor and then get annoyed when everything pens them

[violet timber]

Doesn't matter when you have the second highest HP pool in the game

[steady loom]

Like that hp will last long with the insane dpm and alpha tanks have at tier 10

[violet timber]

"Oh no, lemme get behind this wall"

[plucky summit]

Yeah, that's what trading is :p

[steady loom]

Yes because a good medium player is going to sit in front of an e100 and trade o.O

[plucky summit]

E100 doesn't engage mediums unless it's late game...

[steady loom]

Newbies do all the time

[violet timber]

If an E100 is engaging meds early game, the med has made a severe mistake

[plucky summit]

Yeah, at least they'll have double the alpha xD

[wind dune]

im falling in loooove with the Object 268

[plucky summit]

Glad that you're happy with such a humble tank

[steady loom]

The 263 is nice too

[plucky summit]

Yeah that's cracked too, but still relies on isolation and flank prevention, just like the old days

[violet timber]

I got the 4005 on the test server and Jesus, I want it

[steady loom]

Say hello to HE town

[plucky summit]

Oh boy FV4005 just, MMM YEAH
Spall liner abuse :)

[violet timber]

Spall liner go brrrrrrrr

1,380 clip potential is just beautiful

[steady loom]

A 155mm HE shell is going to hurt, spall or no spall lmao

[plucky summit]

It's gonna hurt like a 152mm AP shell :p

[violet timber]

Just yeet and skeet

[plucky summit]

Not like you can't trade a solid 920 damage back or maybe all 1380 :p

[violet timber]

I can happily say now that I have played every tech tree tier ten due to the test server

[steady loom]

I hate it. Big and tall with no armor. Just an easy target for meds

[plucky summit]

You engage meds? LOL

[violet timber]

Now I just have to actually research them on my account

[steady loom]

What else are you gunna engage? Heavies? Lmao

[plucky summit]

Absolutely, they're slow, better to dump clips in

[wind dune]

you were right

[steady loom]

Sure if you pen all your shots. Most likely you wont.

[plucky summit]

I'm a good marksman ^-^

[violet timber]

Aiming, especially easy with the new system, is sometimes involved in penetrating an enemy tank

[steady loom]

Whats this new system

[violet timber]

It makes aiming more smooth, less reactive on the games part. Actually helps a lot with quick target acquisition

[plucky summit]

Does it rely on clientside a bit more? Just avoiding rewind shots

[steady loom]

Ugh and snapshots are already a pain

[violet timber]

I believe so. It catches up less than the current one, and during quick movements it stays right on with where you're aiming

[wind dune]

@plucky summit 3176 average is really good for me

[plucky summit]

Keep it up! It’s great for even good players!

[wind dune]

i would say that im a good player

[steady loom]

Stb totally under appreciated

[plucky summit]

Do you thoroughly understand the game’s mechanics?

[steady loom]

There isnt that many tbh xD

[violet timber]

Only when you fully understand the penetration mechanics can you call yourself a master

[plucky summit]

Lux deemed me an expert on penetration mechanics and I desire to keep full comprehensions of how the game works 😤

[steady loom]

I wonder where the t100 went

[plucky summit]

To the tech tree soon™️

[steady loom]

I have 1 mil free xp waiting for it

[wind dune]

yes i do

my wn8 rn is Unicum, i think thats good, i have no idea how wn8 is calculated tbh

[plucky summit]

Alright, I hope you can tell me how shell normalization works :D

[violet timber]

Explains how penetration works in any scenario.

[steady loom]

Spill the win rate

[violet timber]

You want 30d or career?

[plucky summit]

Same?

[wind dune]

i watched the video from WarGaming years ago, i know how, and what it does but i just cant explain it

[plucky summit]

I hope I can clarify for you soon, but for now I play Minecraft <3

[wind dune]

have fun

[steady loom]

I have lost a whole 1% win rate in the last month :<

[violet timber]

Yikes, how many games do you have?

[plucky summit]

F, I think I’ve gained like 0.04% AT BEST

[steady loom]

Close to 18k i think

[violet timber]

That's an F

[steady loom]

I blame myself for trying to enjoy tier 10. There are a lot of sub par people playing that tier

[plucky summit]

You’re the common denominator, maybe RNG is having a grudge against you

[steady loom]

Of course. Teams full of people who do 300 damage and expect a win ._.

[plucky summit]

Had a super wholesome teammate recently

[wind dune]

same

[plucky summit]

Had 4 teammates do 0 damage, that didn’t stop me.

[steady loom]

Fav tank in the game is the kran so far :D

[violet timber]

Mine is the STA-1

[plucky summit]

Mine is the Lowe

[violet timber]

Mine used to be Lowe, then I learned that the STA-1 Rin existed

[plucky summit]

Simp

[thorny smelt]

Ho-Ri and KV-5 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[wind dune]

just had a platoon of 2 is8 in my team, one 0 damage, and the other one 6

[plucky summit]

What a chad doing 6 damage

[wind dune]

i thought it was ramming, it was 6 he damage on a e100

i dont even know how

[plucky summit]

He splashed him

[steady loom]

Lmao

[thorny smelt]

HE can still deal damage but small

[wind dune]

i just aced with 5,3k damage LMAO

that was the first ace, that i actually diddnt wanted lmao

[plucky summit]

Good job :p

[wind dune]

its my new favourite tank

i mean, i loved the Foch, but this one, i love it even moire

[steady loom]

Would people want the t95 to get a smol speed buff?

[plucky summit]

Definitely

[steady loom]

The speed kills it for me fun wise

[violet timber]

I like slowly rolling towards the enemy with my big gun

[steady loom]

Like i cant drive the t28 proto after using the defender version

[shell robin]

I've always wanted to drive the T95

[mellow marten]

Who else wishes this tank was in the game?

[silk charm]

one-sided turret lol

[misty wing]

Which tank loses the most credits besides 183

[neat notch]

I like the t 49

[frail dagger]

183 doesnt loose credits if you play smart

[onyx sluice]

KV-1 running the derp gun.

[scarlet kernel]

because of the weight the 12.8 cm gun on the WT affect your mobility

[lofty vapor]

FV4202

[trail orchid]

So I managed to get all 4 of those french tanks on offer with 24 keys and even 1 of them twice,that's not bad is it?

[steady loom]

not bad £40 for all 4 tanks

[trail orchid]

I don't even think I spent that much as a couple of the certificates were 30 and 40 pieces

[steady loom]

Pretty good

[trail orchid]

Yeah would have been around £40 if bought thru Google play but through Samsung store it's cheaper for some reason

[solid gate]

What vehicle is better? E-100 or Opel Astra?

[fickle bane]

I will expect the SPECIAL IS-7 to have a 560 alpha dmg gun rather than a 2 or 3 shot autoloader. Just like the WZ 111 5A Qilin in WoT console. Any other thoughts on this?

[scarlet kernel]

Or maybe just the same IS-7 but a collector tank. Im fine with it honestly, i can play the other if one is still in battle + the special give gold

[onyx sluice]

Wouldn't 560 alpha mean a 15cm gun? Looking at the tank in the teaser the gun looks identical to the tech tree one, so I'm not sure.

Another interesting idea will be a new mechanic, the special auto reloader from PC that Russian tanks have.

[fickle bane]

probably the devs on WoT Console are making the premiums OP or Unique than their tech tree counterpart, idk about blitz devs. Watch a review of WZ 111 5A qilin on wot console, it has the same gun as its tech tree counterpart but the Alpha Dmg. Is different.

[wet prism]

Alpha more,dpm less. Mist tanks arent even op,but much rather balanced

[plucky summit]

This is unacceptable, E75 RT is coming for my Lowe

[dense wave]

What do u think about Su-100M1 guys?

[slender raptor]

any thoughts on Jpanther2

[winter hollow]

I don't like it but I was playing it with stock gun and 75% crew so my opinion isn't valid.

[gloomy rune]

I rebought the tank cuz it was fantastic. Has ok hitpoints for tier8 tds, not good but not shabby. Speed is that of a medium tank, can support mediums and avoid being circled. The frontal armor is divided into 3: the upper glacis plate, lower glacis plate and the upper superstructure. Of the three, the upper superstructure is superior, because not only is it thick, it is angled heavily. Most tanks require premium ammunition to strike through the superstructure, but some cannot even do it, which leads to a hulldown play style. One thing to keep note is the bad accuracy, the dispersion factors and aim time sucks. So be worried about that and stay at a decent range if you can’t shoot sitting ducks at far. Recommend the tank 7/10. -1 for not having turret -1 for accuracy -1 for weak upper glacis plate

[gloomy rune]

As for su100m1. The big mantlet is a good way to train you to face hug tall tanks like the 168. You can practise blocking shells with your gun. But of course I am talking about desperate measures here. As for regular play style, honestly, just get the high ground to camp, because your lack of gun depression is depressing (ironic yes). The one thing that saves you is your gun. 330mm base heat pen? I call that overkill, you can penetrate anything you want with that kind of heat pen, just avoid spaced armor and tracks I guess. Otherwise yes the gun is a saving grace. You shouldn’t camp too often though, because while you lack gun depression, peek a boom at mid ranges can suit the tank as it is small caliber and can snap shots. Despite the big disadvantage of not having a turret, you have superb mobility when not stock, and you can avoid circling too like jpanther2. So overall 7/10. -1 for turretless, -1 for lack of gun depression, -1 for unreliable armor

[dense wave]

Ok! Thank u for the advices 😄

[strange thicket]

Was it announced?

[gloomy rune]

No problem.
@strange thicket aeson datamine shows it. You want to see evidence?

[strange thicket]

No i am just asking lol.
When i first saw that thing on pc i thought that was just their E75 TS.
It is actually way better than the TS.

Oops nvm it is