vehicles-discussion

[plucky summit]

Well I’m sure it has

[violet timber]

Martin is right, it was sold during the big French sale

[dusty dawn]

Q: do research certificates expire?

[hard cedar]

The ones from mission crates do otherwise no, although every once in a while there will be events with temporary certs

[dusty dawn]

thank you.

[low shadow]

Hey does anyone know if the vickers valiant skin has a discount offer

[kindred wren]

Yes, I know someone who knows if the Vickers Valiant skin has a discount offer

[shell robin]

what's the td meta for tier 5 and 6?

[low shadow]

Thank you and is the highest legendary skin discount 50%?

[violet timber]

Pretty much

[violet timber]

Hellcat is the only td you need at lower tiers

[fast compass]

#GiveHellcatACamo

[split ravine]

@teal kindle This?

Why does it look like that😂

[teal kindle]

yeah

[teal kindle]

cause its a toaster 👀

[split ravine]

Real shit

Alright give me 30 mins

[shell robin]

ok, so hellcat is (the) meta tier 6 td. what about tier 5?

after looking at the tier 6 td, the Ji Ro Sha is definitely a tier 5 td

[coral canopy]

Anyone wants to see full list of 134 Legendary Camos? I've shared it the SR and EU forums.

[hollow notch]

The sides and rear fold out to make a platform(and get out of the way of the gun)

[shell robin]

This is my first first attempt at a stat sheet, so let's try this out.

Ji Ro Sha, tier V Japanese Premium tank destroyer

HP: 670
View Range: 255.9

Gun: 10cm Type 92
Damage: 300
Penetration : 175
reload: 10 seconds
dpm: ~1800
dispersion: .41
dispersion factors (moving, hull traverse, turret traverse, after shot): .20, .22, .16, 3
Gun arc (vertical, horizontal): -10/+15, 12

Hull Armor: 35/12/12
Turret Armor: 12mm Gun Shield

Engine: BMW IV Kai Ni, 290 horsepower
Weight: 28.5 kg (31.4 tons)
Speed: 22 km/h

effective traverse speed (hard, medium, soft): 29, 24 , 20

[hollow notch]

Broken

[kindred wren]

Pls nerf

[split ravine]

That’s so unnecessary, just use a regular aa gun smh

[hollow notch]

Great until you have to move it

[dark kraken]

Is the Obj 907 good?

[shell robin]

@hollow notch @kindred wren i have decided to nerf it by putting it into tier 1.

[kindred wren]

That literally is a regular AA gun. It‘s meant for mobile warfare with armoured forces as they need air cover from CAS. SPAAs are still in use and development today

[kindred wren]

Thank you

[shell robin]

👍

[kindred wren]

Though in all seriousness, that is a highly specialised tank not to say camper tank

[shell robin]

I'm inclined to agree, and the more I read it to myself, the more it reminds me of a tier 5 St Emil

[kindred wren]

Just more extreme - slower and less armoured

[past crane]

prob works as a tier 6 better tbf, like a nashorn but damage instead of DPM

[shell robin]

here's the issue I have with putting it in tier 6. As much as I like the idea of this in tier 6, the only thing going for this tank is the gun, and the only thing going for the gun is how hard it hits. granted I forgot dispersion

[kindred wren]

This one one of those tanks you can buff and it just won‘t perform much better on average

I would put it at tier four, as it is

[shell robin]

you're the first person who ever said they would put it at tier 4

[kindred wren]

The thing is that the basis is literally useless

Unless you make it turn quickly this tank will be a sitting duck to anyone

[shell robin]

it's also a big as the Char B1

[kindred wren]

Yes, it‘s food

Ten seconds are not an awful lot and 300 alpha is a ton for the tier, but because anyone can just snap it it cannot dominate positions

With its alpha and dpm it at least has a chance at influencing the game actively

And because the basis is so hilariously bad you can literally put it in tier one and it will still not eat everything for breakfast

[shell robin]

in short, the Ji Ro Sha puts all its points on the gun and nothing in survivability and speed. tbh, I felt generous putting it at tier 5, simply because of the gun.

[kindred wren]

I‘d say it‘s a bad concept for a tank destroyer. That‘s artillery vibes

[shell robin]

if you want artillery vibes, try the Ho-Ro. 15cm gun on a chi ha, what could go wrong

[kindred wren]

I tell you, give the Ji Ro Sha 20 degrees per second turnspeed and it will be a good fit for tier four

In tier five the mobility is too bad to make it work properly anyways. WG‘d buff the mobility like they did with D. Max and St. Emil until they are faster than heavies to make them perform average (or good)

[shell robin]

20 degrees sounds good to me. although, WG puts the type 95 heavy at 30 degrees

[plucky summit]

Yeah because it has terrible armor :p

[kindred wren]

Because 20 degrees is unbearably slow XD

That‘s literally my idea of balancing the tank, mixing the great with the horrendous

[shell robin]

I'll probably change a few things about it and plop it down to tier 4. then i'll have to make a choice of making it a collect or a premium. a tank destroyer of more extremes than a 183

[onyx tendon]

why ji ro sha have so much hp in tier 4? it like have the same hp as the tier 5 kv 1

[shell robin]

it's actually the same hp as it's tier 4 heavy chassis, the type 95 heavy. you do have a point though, it's already very high by tier 5 td standards.

[onyx tendon]

ok

[sacred trail]

It was also sold in a bundle with the AMX 13 57 and some bonus stuff because of their autoloaders for 9k gold during that week

[swift mica]

Hi

[thorny oriole]

What tanks should I choose IS 7, M VI Yoh or AMX 50B?

[drifting grove]

IS-7 for sidescraping.
Yoh for agressive DPM bursting with 105mm or being a frontline deathstar with the 120mm.
AMX 50B for second-line fire support.
Pick.

[thorny oriole]

Ok

I am an agressive player

So what should I choose @drifting grove

[drifting grove]

You like going frontline?
IS-7, probably.
You have to hold back a bit with the Yoh because the armour isn't the best.

You can also try the 60TP.

[thorny oriole]

I don't enjoy 60TP cause it "firework"

[drifting grove]

Nonsense.
Not playing a tank because it has a 'weak' ammorack is stupid.
It's really powerful.
And the IS-7 has a weaker and larger ammorack anyway.

[thorny oriole]

welp, to be honest, I don't like 60TP cause if you angl to big, you can still get ammorack easy

[drifting grove]

You aren't even supposed to angle in the 60TP.
It's a hulldowner.

[thorny oriole]

I need ht that have a average speed, great pen, great amour

So what should I go for @drifting grove

[drifting grove]

60TP

[thorny oriole]

Ok

[strange thicket]

IS7 doesn't have a weaker ammorack nor a larger one

[solid gate]

Yo guys where the hell should u aim to pen the is7 when its facing towards u?

[strange thicket]

lower plate, and if your prammo is strong enough either side of the UFP

if he is face hugging you then shoot close the gun mantlet, provided you have enough pen to penetrate.
and if you can depress your gun enough to see the front plate then loading prammo will go right through it or sometimes even standard ammunition

[blissful hamlet]

Man, i have the paper barn, and enjoy playing with it even though it is an HE projectile magnet, i have the 215b, the worst performing t10 heavy that burns easily and enjoy playing with it..

[dark kraken]

is the Obj 904 a good tank to keep?

[wet prism]

There is no tank with that Name ingame

[hardy wind]

tiger 131 bad

[solar haven]

why

[silent pivot]

Do u all think that kv 1's derp gun need pen buff

Or make it like T49
Heat would be standard shell and HE premium ammo

[thorny smelt]

No

[drifting grove]

Who even cares about tanks below Tier VI or VII?

[silent pivot]

I do

[thorny smelt]

122 mm U-11's main ammo is HE, what do you expect?

[weak sparrow]

Which first

[thorny smelt]

You can grind the top gun first, then the engines

[silent pivot]

Speed is key
-droodles blitz

[drifting grove]

Always gun first.
Especially for the Leo.
It has 290 alpha.

[thorny smelt]

I got my first 3K damage dealt with Leo. It feels so good.

[drifting grove]

Yeah.
Leo taught me that meds can be fun too.

[past fractal]

Im close to E 100. Thoughts?

Ik this is second time but I needed to SAY it

[thorny smelt]

The pen may be average but with top gun & engine, I'm loving it. Hopefully there is the UDES line soon.

[thorny smelt]

I'd say get it. I suggest free XP the top gun afterwards.

[drifting grove]

Save FXP for top gun.
Hide lower glacis and angle turret.
Try not to get in the way of teammates.

[thorny smelt]

Angles are everything for Maus and E 100. The turret is quite weak against gold rounds and guns with high pen like Ho-Ri and Jageroo.

[narrow shadow]

You're gonna be so disappointed when you see what the 60TP can do compared to E100 😂

[blissful hamlet]

U-11 was the main gun of SU-122, decent irl, bad in blitz

[blissful hamlet]

Leo is good

[onyx sluice]

Its a meme gun, you're not supposed to actually use it.

[thorny smelt]

Tell that to this dude who wants pen buff on KV-1's U-11 gun

[blissful hamlet]

Well, those U-11 projectiles were capable of sending Tiger I's turret flying irl

[dark kraken]

How good is the Obj 907?

[past fractal]

Its a light tank at this point

[hollow sequoia]

its ok i guess, gun handling is garbo compared to the tech tree soviet meds

[hollow sequoia]

mhm

[shell robin]

what consumables should I use on T29?

[fast compass]

Super speed, double repairs. Optionally you could give up one repair for adrenaline

[ancient iron]

which tank(s) do y'all think will be next for the GuP crossover? I am hoping for the St Gloriana's Churchill and/or the Carro Armato P40... (I also wouldn't argue with us getting another Kuromorimine tank, or getting another Oarai tank)

[shell robin]

isn't there a GuP Maus?

[ancient iron]

Kuromorimine has a maus.... might be cool to see to be sure

[snow fox]

They should add wheeled vehicles.

[shell robin]

they should add Japanese super heavies then.

[ancient iron]

they should add the Swedish TDs

(to the Swedes here... YES! ik they are MBTs, you know they're MBTs, WG does not for some reason)

[shell robin]

they should add certain spgs to blitz, and by certain i mean like the T82 at tier 3. so this could be like the sturmpanzer bison, bishop, priest, so on.

[ancient iron]

I only really like Blitz over regular WOT because no Arty and everyone has sixth sense

[shell robin]

only thing I missed from WOT is... well it's my pfp after all

[plucky summit]

You mean add SPGs as TDs?
T82 already does exist as your example, as I take it

[ancient iron]

I'd maybe be ok with Burt the Avenger as a TD lol

[shell robin]

yea, SPGs that function similarly to TDs, like bert, bishop, bison, priest, so on. i'm skeptical on the priest though

[plucky summit]

Well, most of them can since their gun can often depress at all :p

Probably should avoid the already loaded tech trees

[shell robin]

there's also opportunities for spg td hybrids that aren't in either blitz or pc

which I could see a Japanese tier 4 td/spg (much more than my Ji Ro Sha, which I insist on being in tier 5) but it's got a potentially more broken gun than the type 92 10cm that the Ji Ro has.

so i have a stat sheet for the Ji Ro Sha. Now I want to make stat sheets for the Ho-Ro and the Chi-Ha 120

[plucky summit]

Best I can offer is a rebalanced version (if I disagree somewhere of course) in my own concept sheet

[shell robin]

i'm open to it.

[misty wing]

is it just me or does the bl-10 look too narrow to be a 152

[red sonnet]

Stock emil 2 makes me cry myself to sleep.

[dusty dawn]

Angling a M6; same technique as a VK 36.01 H?

[silk charm]

im on the road to IS7 but i found people talking about how it can get ammoracked easily and that i should go instead for IS4, thoughts?

[hollow sequoia]

its just a meme, is7 is stupidly strong rn go for it

[silk charm]

tysm!

[hollow sequoia]

use the protective kit and defense system incase a high caliber td tries to hit your ammorack

[rigid thunder]

don't use defense system, take improved modules + protective kit, which prevents you from getting racked in a single hit by all tanks in the game iirc

[hollow sequoia]

it does? all this time ive only been using defense system+protective kit

[rigid thunder]

assuming wotpc module HP stats carry over to wotb (which is true for quite a number of tanks), the IS-7 only has 210 ammorack HP. By running just defense system, the HP is only increased by 10%, which places it at 231, whereas the 183 has 244 module damage

Running improved modules increases HP by 10% twice, which gives you 253 ammorack HP, which is a much safer position

[hollow sequoia]

i see

[rigid thunder]

and it's better to have no chance of being full-hp ammoracked as opposed to having it roll on a 20% chance

[silk charm]

thanks for the advice, ill make sure to install them when I get to it!

gonna focus on soviet tech tree for the time being, but a few months ago i remember people talking about how the Yohs were really good for the US tech tree, is it still that way? or is it now the T110E5?

[rigid thunder]

yes the yoh line is absolutely amazing, and definitely pretty op. The T110E5 has fallen really hard out of the meta. You could even call it a pretty bad tank

[silk charm]

ty!

[rigid thunder]

np~

[vast cove]

is the kpfpz 70 even good?

[violet timber]

Yes

[hollow sequoia]

its ok

[violet timber]

It’s not slow, it’s rather quick for a heavy

[silk charm]

dumb mistakes, couldve researched is3 at like 30% off yesterday but my finger slipped and purchased improved engine lol

[violet timber]

That doesn’t make it slow though

It’s not that slow though, even compared to other heaviums.

Higher than many other heavies, with a better p/w to boot

Because if it was going 70 it would be broken, it’s fine as is, a fast heavy with large alpha and good enough turret armor

No, keep it as is. It’s fine

[lyric oriole]

It's not

[violet timber]

Not really, I’m glad ATGMS are gone, they were a fundamentally broken mechanic

Well Blitz and WT are very different games

That’s fine, blitz doesn’t need better ATGMs

What’s p2w in blitz?

Completely disregard tier 7 btw

[wise moth]

T-22

[violet timber]

True, but that and the VK 90 are really it

At least they have balance

When it was released

[onyx sluice]

Cold War tanks with 1930s tanks is height of balance.

[violet timber]

More balanced than blitz 🤷‍♂️ Unless you only look at tier 10 before Yoh was introduced

[onyx sluice]

Revenge killing and how armor is irrelevant.

The grind.

[thorny smelt]

40 kmph is already fast for a heavy tank. Look at KV-5. It weighs 100 tons but it can go up to 40 kmph.

[misty wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNPA9Ohrpqk
the yoh tanks are very interesting ngl

[safe cedar]

Why is t26e3 eagle 7 so bad, its borderline painful to play.

[neat nimbus]

this is far i can get

[neat nimbus]

This stinks as much

[drifting grove]

You aren't even able to win 1 battle/day for the event?
Even that would get you further.
And did you miss all the streams?
This is the easiest event ever and you couldn't even do that?

[solid gate]

people im close to 5k keep or buy this.

[thorny smelt]

What do you like from this bundle?

[solid gate]

maybe like vickers?

[fast compass]

You free xp it.

You done mess up

[strange thicket]

The stock gun isn't bad
Play it like the vickers albeit being worse

[autumn prairie]

wait i dont use fxp to unlock tanks?

[tidal atlas]

You dont need to P2W in tier 7 all you need is a T71

[autumn prairie]

ive used it to unlock tier 8 and 9 of progetto line

[onyx sluice]

Why is the KV-1 so bad?

[tepid geyser]

it isn't???

[onyx sluice]

It really is, especially against higher tier.

[tepid geyser]

then you're playing it wrong, although, most tanks will do not as well against higher tier tanks, especially at the mid tiers

[hard cedar]

Kv1 is kinda bad.

[tepid geyser]

it's still decent though

[onyx sluice]

It has neither armor, mobility nor firepower.

[tepid geyser]

the gun is decent on it, it has been powercrept a little, but it's still a good tier five tank, plus it's only tier 5 so it doesn't really matter lol

[onyx sluice]

It matters when you have to grind 30K xp to get the KV-1S.

[thorny smelt]

And get the top 122 mm gun for KV-1S, not the U-11 gun from KV-1

[strange thicket]

Imo gun can be the last thing you grind on the t92

[misty wing]

Idk about you guys but I kinda get tired of people saying "you're just playing the tank wrong"
You gotta admit at some point that some tanks really are underpowered

Though I'm not sure about the KV-1 because I haven't touched it in ages

[strange thicket]

Scare factor of what?
This is a light tank, you don't take on targets head-on

Getting the top gun won't make you magically win.
Besides if you get tunneled or rushed with the top gun you are dead. That thing has no dpm

Both guns can work
And the stock one is adequate enough to not prompt rushing to the top one
Though if you can't make it work then go for the top one

[solid gate]

the 3 tanks and its rare offer

[misty wing]

tier 5 is almost always bottom tier though, at least from my experience

[thorny smelt]

^^^^

[misty wing]

I doubt that tbh
Unless the tog player is braindead

most of tier 6 are literal bots the last time I played it
I averaged like 2.8k damage in the skoda t25 while grinding it

[cold ore]

All T71 I've seen is either camping or yolos. Not seen a single competent player with one yet

[strange thicket]

the tank is mediocre
only the gun is going for it

[past fractal]

Tips for E 100?

[strange thicket]

side scrape
trade shot for shot.
angle turret while side scraping.

[thorny smelt]

Hide the lower plate.
Angle the turret since the front of the turret is weak especially to prammo and high penetration guns.
Most of the time you can play as second line.

[solid gate]

It's....trash.

I legit do not find it easy to play anymore. BDR would be a better tank nowadays to teach newbies how to play heavy tanks. Practically the kv1 of todays tier 5.

[drifting grove]

Ironically, my first ever ace was on that tank.
It is rubbish though.
Frontal armour isn't great and the gun, while derpy, takes too long to reload by Tier V standards.

[solid gate]

It used to be quite godly back then.

The armor was good enough and the 76mm was very decent.

But then they nerfed it after probably months or even years since the 5.5 update and now it's probably one of the least enjoyable heavy tank at that tier.

Tho granted, it can be fun if you don't care being a literal pinata.

[scarlet kernel]

people keep saying "pro players can make a bad tank good" which is true, but let's not forget that it's a bad tank

[solid gate]

I've been let down at the image of a basically invincible maus. I literally perform better in the T110E5 which has near 0 armour. The maus is really 2 steel cubes with a motor. Simple armour shapes mean you gotta cover all sides equally still and there's a larger hitbox to boot. Very easy to mess up hulldown too since you have to angle the turret like it's its own tank, something you don't really do for other tanks because of the circular shape and anything else is conciously considered

This looks like a rant but really I want some advice, not make excuses to remain bad. I know what this thing can do having been on the recieving end of it.

[solid gate]

You say this like people have nothing else to do. People got school, work, life. With one of the last events I was lucky (which is a grey statement). When the tournaments were on I'd let it run overnight. This time was not an option because I have stuff to do and most were on during working hours. The streams are several hours long too

[solid gate]

guys i skip the cyber monday offer since the other tanks will expire soon should i keep my gold is it better ? ive just decided to keep my 5k gold

[thorny smelt]

Keep on farming gold

[kindred wren]

I know it feels weird but turn your turret around about 45 degrees to maximise the effectiveness. Then try to bait people into shooting the turret sides. Generally don‘t play hulldown. Instead, try to play sidescraping or in the open because people will try to shoot the hull which is easier to bounce with than the turret

[trail orchid]

I ended up getting the raumpanzer with the help of a Google play voucher my sister was never gonna use and it's a decent tank,I came up against a t49 in one battle and who ever it was fired twice at me head on and the bulldozer front part blocked the damage from it pretty good

[solid gate]

hmm ok

[drifting grove]

I have all of those too.
1 win/day is hardly anything, when you consider that the average battle only lasts ~3 minutes.
And as for the streams, watching all of them may br hard, but given that you only need to be present to turn on the stream and can then afk through it (like I did). Calling this event 'hard' or 'unfair' is rubbish.

[solid gate]

I did manage to win one battle a day, that was the easy part. It's just with the streams how am I supposed to be able to even afk it on school/work wifi. It's usually prohibited or blocked in some way shape or form or if not, is logged. If I was at home then the dynamics change. I have my wifi, so I let the tab run while I do other stuff. But I was not in that situation

[drifting grove]

Maus isn't remotely invincible.
Turret cheeks are butter, and your lower glacis is paper, and angling it enough to make it invincible opens up a weakspot behind the front wheel. It's also slow and doesn't have the best firepower.
On the other hand, the T110E5 is basically a Super Conqueror with a few weakspots on the hull and turret. Mind you, said weakspots are hard to hit.

[rigid thunder]

you have to play differently in the maus. Generally, you want to either be sidescraping or angling your hull towards your enemies, and your main way of bouncing is to be baiting shots into your lower side or lower plate at good angles. Going hull down isn't very useful in the maus, and the need to angle correctly takes time to master. Once you do find the right angle to bounce enemy shots, the maus will be very rewarding.
The 460 alpha gun isn't the best, but it has decent handling and allows you to out-trade standard 400-420 alpha HTs, which are standard at tier 10

[grave bane]

the HE only gun is crap

[solid gate]

i also gonna go maus can u teach me went i get it one time?

[thick trout]

The best thing to learn in the maus is how far you have to angle the turret, and it's easiest to remember this by trying to get the angle below.

You want to angle your hull so one of the corners is pointing at the reds (aka the person shooting you is where the arrow points) and then you want to put your gun to the opposite front corner (where the green circle is). The reds will then see something like the pic below (I don't recommend you use EA but it helps to show when the armour will start falling apart)

[thick kernel]

What you guys think about KV 4?

[rigid thunder]

the maus is mostly about the angling, so taking into note what honourless says above is basically all you need

[solid gate]

hmm ill try to do this and i mean i get some bounces on vk 100 but im sure maus is more harder

@rigid thunder mhm i will ☺️

[tepid geyser]

Duh, it’s HE only, idk why anyone would run that gun

[tidal atlas]

I have a 259 battles, 62% WR, and 1076 average damage with it

[thorny smelt]

Stock config is PAIN. I'd suggest go for the IS-7 line first since both IS-7 and IS-4 lines share most of the same guns. As for the KV-4, get the high pen 107 mm ZiS-24 gun.

[thick kernel]

Ou! What about its armor? Isn’t it supreme? 😋

[thorny smelt]

It is a frontline tank so the armor is good. Side-scraping with KV-4 will make you a god.

[tidal atlas]

To add to that almost all the T7 tanks I’ve driven could not pen the side of a KV-4 without prammo

[thorny smelt]

Right. It is a huge mound of steel to tier 7 tanks.

[past fractal]

T110E5 was usually the heavy tank an average player would choose to learn in. Its also pretty balanced.

It was also my first tier 10. It is a good learning platform, and a very decent tank as well overall when used right. But I’d recommend other hts for more specialisation

Also if you already know how to play E5 get super consumables in it. Cuz i dont

[kindred wren]

Rant about how they destroyed E5 instead of removing the super consumables incoming in 3… 2… 1…

[violet timber]

When you have the opportunity, push with super speed boost. Or use super speed boost to get out of tricky situations

[wise moth]

I wouldn’t really memorize that tip of angling the turret over the hull edge, since that assumes your hull is already angled towards the enemy in the same direction (and in most cases that’s an under-angle TBH) It’s better to learn to angle the turret independent of the hull angle, especially because Maus turret sides are highly affected by the relative height of the opponent due to the sloping

[kindred wren]

I actually agree, but there‘s no need to make it more complex than it already is

[violet timber]

Just learns to angle Maus and bounce everything, ez

[wise moth]

In general I recommend learning to angle your turret at a ~40 degree angle (like a 45, but a little less) and if they’re above you, angle less. If they’re below you, angle more

[past fractal]

Angling the maus and E 100 dont always mean a bounce. But its the difference between getting shot by small rounds on very small penetrable spots and getting phalanx ciws’d on the face

[wise moth]

E-100 angling doesn’t help much except against low pen enemies, but Maus can be angled to be invincible against 340 HEAT if the lower plate is hidden

[violet timber]

This is one of the reasons I despise playing the E100

[past fractal]

True words mate

But damn angling the E 100 just feels satisfying. Not always with bounces, just…. satisfying

[kindred wren]

E 100 angling is mostly to bait, last minute save or denying pens when you are mostly in cover already

[past fractal]

E 100 was definitely the more mobile super HT with less armor (not counting 60TP and probably VK 72)

[violet timber]

Doesn’t matter when it’s still slow

[kindred wren]

60TP makes a joke out of a joke that is superheavy balancing

[violet timber]

60TP is 100% fair and balanced

[humble escarp]

ok

[thorny smelt]

IS-4 with 15 cm gun and vulnerable ammo rack

[violet timber]

No I like the current IS-4

[thorny smelt]

I'm just describing the 60TP >_>

[violet timber]

Oh, that makes sense

[thick trout]

Yeah it's not the perfect situation but it doesn't require any experience to get used to it, you just need to be able to pick the points on the tank so it's a very easy thing to learn fast

[worthy dust]

uh strange question but is the wt auf e100 thing coming to blitz?

[lyric oriole]

Never

[worthy dust]

O

[distant nymph]

I think droodles really likes to hype up some very obscure leaks as literal news, like it's comming absolutely

[warm leaf]

If the AUF E 100 is coming to Blitz I am not playing until they removed it or nerf it

[lyric oriole]

It would probably just be like 4005

They give it the 12.8 with 3 shots

[warm leaf]

We shall see about it

[violet timber]

15cm with 2 shots? Either way, I won't like it

[mighty delta]

is the auf e100 the thing that does like 3k damage in a clip?

[kindred wren]

5k, and yes

It actually does around 3k but I felt like exaggerating

[mighty delta]

lol, was it replaced by the grille on pc? think i read it somewhere

[kindred wren]

Yeah

[violet timber]

It better have a 12.8cm 3 shell or 15cm 2 shell, otherwise it'll be broken

[kindred wren]

On PC it only appears on the Chinese server or as a special boss event where on player drives a supercharged WT auf E100 and the rest runs some supercharged tier ten mediums

15cm 2-clip is broken already

[violet timber]

It'll be less potential than the 4005, and it'll have to have somewhere around a 5 sec interclip and 23-25 second clip reload, but I think it could work

[kindred wren]

I don‘t think so. It didn‘t work for the Foch and it won‘t work for anything else. Alpha is king and clip is an alpha extension

[strange thicket]

no it is a premium on the chinese server, and that event happened on all servers pretty sure.
it is also still on WoT console

[kindred wren]

OR

[violet timber]

Maybe give it 60TP alpha? 600 AP and a stronger HE round than 680?

[strange thicket]

oh, i am sorry.

[kindred wren]

To be honest I‘d prefer if they just give it a strong single shot 12.8cm

[kindred wren]

It‘s ok, after reading it again myself I noticed how easy it is to miss it

[violet timber]

So something like the AMX M4 54?

[kindred wren]

I mean, more accurate and less reload and less armour, but other than that… I guess

[violet timber]

Oh gotcha

[full cargo]

Which American td should I get?

[winged adder]

E3

[violet timber]

Yoh. Only American tank you need

[silk charm]

Whenever I get bored of my Soviet tech tree I just continue towards the yohs

[full cargo]

k

@violet timber ye Im grinding for it

[winged adder]

T57 is pretty spicy

[violet timber]

Yeah, but useless because Yoh exists

[winged adder]

I like it more honestly the 1,200 burst is really nice

[violet timber]

Problem is the turret is weak

[wintry orchid]

E3 grind is pain I think (T28 and T95) but the t10 is good and e4 grind is prolly ok but the tank is meh

[full cargo]

Oh mk

[violet timber]

E3 grind isn't that bad, E4 grind is worse imo

[winged adder]

T28 proto is AWFUL

[violet timber]

Worst tank tier for tier imo

[full cargo]

should I focus on grinding one tank?

[winged adder]

Definitely

[winged adder]

You’ll get the tier 10 faster imo if you focus one

[full cargo]

K

[warm leaf]

On console 15cm the reloading time is 40.0 seconds to reload the gun. They might put it on AUF E 100 on Blitz

[valid gale]

@warm leaf it’s not coming

[warm leaf]

I just saw new video on Droodles Blitz channel and He got troll same as everyone

So yeah thank god WG is not putting this AUF E 100 on Blitz

[pallid flame]

Mhm

[misty wing]

Wt e100 confirmed fake?

[misty wing]

That waffentrager event had everyone else using T-55As iirc, not tier 10 mediums

[hard cedar]

Last time it was run (couple months ago) it was reskinned pattons 140s and batchats

[misty wing]

oh
I only played it the first time

[warm leaf]

Yes by Droodles because he got trolled hard same as us

[fair cairn]

you think it would branch from the wt?

mayhaps the wt auf e100 taking the place of the grille? yes logic

[plucky summit]

Dang I just got put in a battle with a ton of sub 5k battle players

[shy fern]

is this good

[plucky summit]

Such an annoying question

Yes, you mastered the tank -_-

[violet timber]

Nah

Need at least 3k damage to be considered "good"

[plucky summit]

Understand that they did something other than damage ._.

[shell robin]

it's possible to just kill without doing much damage either.

i think he did good enough though.

[violet timber]

They got an ace, of course it's good. It's great, just a stupid question to ask

[shell robin]

i wish i could do 3k damage all the time

[violet timber]

Just play tier 10

[shell robin]

i did. got lucky to do 1.5k. but I just got my ho ri back, so hopefully i can do a little more.

[plucky summit]

Ouch.

JPanther II has infuriating RNG

[violet timber]

What tank did you get 1.5k in?

[shell robin]

stb. managed 1.5k only once

[violet timber]

That's a yikes

[hard cedar]

😮‍💨

[violet timber]

Lost in LostInSpace

[shell robin]

just a skill issue, or mediums just aren't as good as they used to be.

[violet timber]

Mediums are better than they used to be since heavies were nerfed, though there are a few that can bully meds

[hard cedar]

Just a skill issue¿

[shell robin]

always was a skill issue.

@violet timber if mediums are better now, I feel sorry for medium players back them

[violet timber]

Meds and lights have always required more skill, they're just easier to perform in now

[hard cedar]

It is heavy meta right now.

[plucky summit]

Lost a game because RNG

I'm so confused why it's so bad today

[violet timber]

The meta is very heavy, which is why the E50M is performing wonderfully

[shell robin]

where do td sit then? some good, some not?

[hard cedar]

🤨
If anything that should mean it would perform worse

[violet timber]

TDs are very far from meta currently, and the E50M is basically a heavium with a med gun

[shell robin]

what a time to get my ho ri back. just wait till the type 71 replaces the 215b for worst tier x heavy.

[violet timber]

215b has it's crown, and it'll probably have it for a while

[shell robin]

is it fair to call the t110e5 an oversized m48?

[violet timber]

Not exactly? Maybe a bit? The E5 is a stock standard hulldown heavy, the M48 is a hull down med

[shell robin]

i'm just worried the type 71 will be like a E5 copy paste.

[hard cedar]

Perhaps

[solid gate]

Tbf E5 is bad now so

[violet timber]

Well we have a ton of hull down heavies already, why not add more?

[shell robin]

well some people prefer this over the alternative. I'm skeptical, but hopeful at the same time that they'll be decent.

[violet timber]

Well most of the recently added tier 10s have been overcooked, I don't know why this one would be different

[plucky summit]

I forgive RNG.

[shell robin]

if they wanted this line to be overcooked, they would've just added the super heavies. they're planning something. idk what though. maybe more super consumables

[shell robin]

I've found a website that basically makes up or draws ideas of japanese tanks for wot. idk the real website name, since it's japanese, but I found something I thought would be hilariously op.

a turretless type 5 heavy armed with a 20cm naval gun.

[amber socket]

IS-3 hull armor is wack

[misty wing]

you haven't seen an is-7 then

[misty wing]

that's... pretty yikes

[shell robin]

tbf, Japan was the first ever nation I completed, so i'm still new to tier 10 (and that's when I decide to try my luck)

[misty wing]

even so, 1.5k damage is really bad even for an average, not to mention max

[shell robin]

is 1.5k bad at mid tiers?

[misty wing]

even at tier 6 or 7 it's meh

[shell robin]

wow i really so suck as much as i thought i did

[austere zenith]

Good on 5 tier

[charred vigil]

I'd say average tier 10 damage (Average for the playerbase) is 1.5k+ ish and decent being 2k+ and good being 2.5k+ great being 3k+ and tryhard being 3.5k+

[shell robin]

so i'm terrible at tier 10 and mediocre at tier 6 and 7.

[misty wing]

If you want I can platoon with you and maybe give some advice
I'm super uni in the e50m so

[violet timber]

Usually around 2k at tier 10 is a good game

[hard cedar]

not rlly?

[shell robin]

i don't have the stb anymore. sold it to get my ho ri

[wet prism]

Never sell t10 tanks,best advice i ever recieved

[shell robin]

is there something in this game that you CAN sell?

[violet timber]

Bad premiums, as well as low tier premiums

[shell robin]

got rid of all my low tier premiums, as well as my bad premiums.

[misty wing]

I sell all my tech tree tanks when I research the next one
there's not a single one worth playing when you have enough premiums

[violet timber]

Hellcat

[misty wing]

Every time I tried to keep one it just ended up gathering dust

[shell robin]

well i've got one premium still, one that I actually enjoy.

@misty wing sounds like my stb

[misty wing]

Most tier 10s are worth playing except maybe like
the E5 if you have a concept 1b
or the obj 140 if you have a t-22

how much do you average in the ho-ri?

[shell robin]

idk. haven't played it in nearly 3 years

[violet timber]

There’s no reason to play the 140 anyways lol

[misty wing]

bruh the ho-ri hasn't even been out for 3 years

[shell robin]

NEARLY 3 years

[misty wing]

pretty sure it hasn't even been out for 2

[shell robin]

anyways, looked on blitzstars through my own profile. 1.6k

[misty wing]

came out like spring-summer 2020 iirc

[shell robin]

compared to my stb's 1.3k

[misty wing]

how are you playing it?

[shell robin]

iirc, i played it somewhere between sniper and support.

[misty wing]

well 1.6k is just three shots with that tank, if you just try to get in one more per game you'll break that 2k barrier
which is considered decent

[wet prism]

Yes,tanks that u didnt like to play and are not meta(t10 excluded,always keep them) and like the other dude said bad premiums or low tier ones that are going to rot in your garage anyways

[shell robin]

well, the stb was gonna rot regardless of whether i sold it or not.

[wet prism]

I mean,someday you probably want to play it,but instead have to grind ur ass off all over again for it since u Lack xredits

[shell robin]

if that day ever comes, I'll let you know.

[misty wing]

yeah maybe you'll wanna play it when it gets pbr or something

[violet timber]

I still want to sell the E100

[misty wing]

I sold my grille back when I was a 40%er
kinda want it now even though I still think it's a bad tank

[shell robin]

personally, i think stb is overrated

[misty wing]

It's not even rated that highly though
Only the yoh at tier 10 is overrated imo, I've never really been scared of them
maybe the t-22 and chieftain too

[shell robin]

haven't come across a tank I fear yet.

[misty wing]

any tank with really high alpha or huge clip potential can be a bit scary

[shell robin]

i must be foolhardy then, because there is no tank that scares me.

[misty wing]

then you might just be playing too reckless, hence your low avg damage

[violet timber]

There are a few tanks you should be weary of, but none that should outright scare you

[shell robin]

just because I'm not afraid of, say a smasher, doesn't mean I'll yolo it in a bulldog

[misty wing]

Closest thing to being genuinely scary was when 2 unicum 263s in a platoon yolo'd me at the start of the game
idk how but I made it out alive with a pretty decent game

[shell robin]

what does actually scare me is getting shot by a tank you can't see.

[misty wing]

that's just annoying, not really scary

[violet timber]

I’m kinda mad at myself when I’m shot by a tank I can’t see

[misty wing]

100k xp away from the 268 but I only have 1.7m credits rip

[vital flax]

should I sell this creature?

[violet timber]

Ye

[misty wing]

Is the 268 even good anymore
I hope it's better than the 704 at least

Huh

[violet timber]

It’s actually not bad, one of the few tds worth playing in the meta

[misty wing]

Why does a tier 10 have worse dpm than the tier 9 with the same alpha

[violet timber]

Looks at SU-122-54 No idea

[misty wing]

Doesn't the 54 have 420 alpha

[violet timber]

Yeah, but it has the best dpm in the game

[misty wing]

Yeah and that's it's selling point whereas the 263 has other things going for it, so the dpm drop from tier 9 to 10 makes sense
But the 704 and 268 are supposed to fulfill sorta the same role, so it doesn't make much sense why the 268 has lower dpm imo

704 is still worse tier for tier though, so I guess I can't complain too much

[violet timber]

268 has better accuracy, mobility, and armor

[misty wing]

Right, but normally when tanks of a higher tier fill the same role, they don't become worse at anything
At least that's how it should be imo
Which is why I hate the way WG balanced the grille

Like look at the e50 and e50m for a good example
Basically the same tank but the tier 10 is a bit better in every way

Grille has like 3 advantages on the WT but is way worse at everything else for some reason

[silk charm]

is using free xp worth it or should I just save it for something bigger

[misty wing]

Using it for what

[silk charm]

going from is to is3, did a little misclick the other day and spent like 20k tonk xp, i got like 22k more xp to grind and about 55k free xp

[shell robin]

so what td are meta?

[austere zenith]

Huh, on RU cluster try hard goes beyond 4000

[violet timber]

Really only E3, though no td is currently meta

[shell robin]

what's wrong with the ho ri, aside from gun limit and paper side and rear?

[austere zenith]

268 better armor? What?

[rigid thunder]

it does though

[violet timber]

HP. That’s what makes the heavy meta, the amount of HP heavies have. Every other class just has a disadvantage right out the gate

[misty wing]

There's not much wrong with it, it's just hard to have impact with a turretless, low HP tank imo

[shell robin]

i always thought it was the turret armor that made the meta, like hulldown hevies.

[solid gate]

I preferred the IS4. it was my first tier X heavy. Decently mobile for a heavy except for hull traverse at times. Well armoured so it forgives you sometimes for mistaken peeks and miscalculated sidescraping angles. Better aim than IS7 while retaining the same pen.

E5 though, teaches you the next level while also being leniant in its own way. It's the perfect tank to help you practice hulldown skills/management. Good depression lets you hit of shots over steeper ridges. Mobility is neat too. It's also got one of the highest pen values for a heavy I've ever seen. Stuff most other heavies can't do

[shell robin]

i've seen plenty of cursed tanks, but I'm afraid to show this thing off that I found.

[misty wing]

Show it

[shell robin]

the name given to this is the naval 20cm spg

[misty wing]

You sent that earlier -_-

[shell robin]

i did?

oh, i did. well, now what?

[silk charm]

admiring cursed tanks 2: electric boogaloo

[misty wing]

and the tank's not even that cursed

[shell robin]

cursed to me, but i like it

i'm making stat sheets for potential japanese td for low and mid tiers

[silk charm]

good equipment, provisions for is3? or should I just follow that of the is7

[misty wing]

rammer, GLD, refined gun, defense system, HP, toolbox, optics, engine accelerator, high end consumables imo

a lot of them are personal preference though

what's the coolest looking tank in the game

[silk charm]

sturmtiger

[misty wing]

idk why
But matilda BP is definitely up there for me

[thorny smelt]

Matilda BP was my former nemesis when I was still new to tier 5.

[kind flicker]

normal Matilda=to much Armour at its tier

[thorny smelt]

And so annoying to face

[kind flicker]

and matilda my main tank 🙂

[violet timber]

30B my main tank 😁

[kind flicker]

im mostly use- matilda, alecto, churchill 1 and hetzer

[misty wing]

skorpion G and E50M main ;-;

[violet timber]

I also enjoy the IS-4

[kind flicker]

i started playing recently so i mostly play tier 4

[drifting grove]

Problem with the IS-4 is that the grind up to it is one of the most painful in the game. (Practically every tank right from the Tier VI KV-2 / KV-1S has a really painful stock grind)

[solid gate]

20cm!?

[misty wing]

about the size of a heavy cruiser gun

[past fractal]

T110E5 main until I discovered E 100’s capabilities

[shell robin]

it IS a heavy cruiser gun

[plucky summit]

Lowe and AMX M4 mle 54 main o-o

[brave night]

I didn’t like mle, I don’t really main anything but my fav med is tvp

[thorny smelt]

I might aim for AMX M4 54 instead of VK 90.01 P but VK 90.01 P is my 1st choice

[plucky summit]

I love the tedious hulldown and hull protecting you gotta do, as well as the juicy alpha that constantly rolls over 500

VK 90 is… solid, but more sweaty than fun to me

[solid gate]

Is T 2O20 a bad tank because i played with it and almost block every shots from my enemy (IS 6 and Lowe)

[plucky summit]

Not really lol

It got a harsh rep before the buff so people think it hasn’t changed

[solid gate]

Rep?

[plucky summit]

Reputation, ok I sleep now

[solid gate]

Okay

[thorny smelt]

Why sweaty? Too slow?

Oh wait. Side-scraping is possible with AMX M4 54

[hard cedar]

Not really

[thorny smelt]

Ooof. I just realized for a bit. I'm still going for VK 90.01 P.

[silk charm]

tips for is3? its so hard getting used to it, sidescraping has helped quite a bit tho

[misty wing]

just play peekaboo against lower alpha tanks I guess

[strange thicket]

Hull down
Avoid direct confrontation with any heavy tank unless you are hull down.
Side scraping can work but ehh you gotta bait so they shoot at you.
You can also go with meds.

[silk charm]

thanks, ill be sure to keep that in mind! finally got a semi decent round

[strange thicket]

You can also facehug tanks
Just make sure whatever you are face hugging can't depress their gun to your UFP.

[scarlet kernel]

anyone have a clue when the JP HT be added? im thinking they are going into supertest after the t100 lt is added

[shell robin]

that's basically the general consensus. no true date, but it's basically common sense that they will be after the T100 (that sounds like a terminator ngl). I've heard guesses for mid-late summer 2022

[azure pebble]

Anyone wanna platoon?

[solid gate]

what is ur fav heavy

[scarlet kernel]

wait what IS did the 263 is based off?

is it the IS-7 ???

[past aspen]

No it's the IS 5

Nope I'm just confused

[plucky summit]

Hmmm

Reminds me of IS-3 a bit

[grave bane]

t49

[plucky summit]

Yeah it's based off of the IS-7 hull

[grave bane]

i just ran top modules on kv4 by FXP

[thorny smelt]

It's easy when you got plenty of FXP, but not on those who have limited amount of FXP.

[grave bane]

meh
the grind is also fine, as long as you got the turret and can play aggressive

[thorny smelt]

IS-4 line is a line of assault heavy tanks (WOT PC classification) so they're heavily armored than the versatile IS-7 line.

[red sonnet]

Tiger B

[mild otter]

Tiger B?????

[red sonnet]

Yes, it is my favourite heavy

[mild otter]

Don't you mean Tiger II?

[red sonnet]

Same thing

[plucky summit]

@solid gate
He hit the edge of your turret at an angle of more than 70 degrees, without the three caliber rule passing, it automatically ricocheted

Or he hit your gun mantlet in a specific spot

[grave bane]

tiger b means panzerkampfwagen tiger ausf. B
nicknamed köningstiger or tiger II
@red sonnet @mild otter

[plucky summit]

Okay?

[grave bane]

not to you

[plucky summit]

I know but I thought that fact was already established
"Same thing" - kv-2

[grave bane]

who asked

[plucky summit]

Krapfen of course

[red sonnet]

It is okay, I get it alot. Last time people came at me for calling the rheinmetal.-B. WT "borsig" and where like "nooooooo you should call it by its game " like okay

[modest solar]

So uh.. Did the Amxmas is... Bad amx 12 t?

[red sonnet]

Hm?

[modest solar]

?

[red sonnet]

What do you mean friend

[modest solar]

The gun from amxmas tank have abit low (100) dpm than amx 12 t

Didn't bp tank should be better

[red sonnet]

Maybe some other aspect about it is better, such as mobility or reload time. I could be wrong though

[rigid thunder]

battlepass tanks usually have some sort of trade-off compared to their tech tree counterparts. In this case, the amxmas has less dpm in exchange for 7 degrees of gun depression over the 12t's 4

[modest solar]

Hmm

[vital flax]

it has intra clip reload of prenerf amx 12t 🤯

[modest solar]

What is that

[vital flax]

reload time between shells in the magazine

[modest solar]

Owh

[thorny smelt]

DPM doesn't matter on some tanks like autoloading light tanks since you just dispense shells to the enemy and then run away.

[modest solar]

Alright

[obtuse veldt]

is t110e3 still a good tank?

[hollow sequoia]

yes

[muted frost]

Thunderbolt 7

[jade kernel]

Is AMX-mas tank have any different from Amx 12t tank or they just same tank?

[vital flax]

more gun depression, 2s intra clip but worse dpm I think

[steep canyon]

Well both tanks are almost same in blank color

[mild otter]

I didn't ask for you output

[obtuse veldt]

almost the same

the tank is basically a rebadge

[thorny smelt]

It's AMX 12t with lower inter-clip and 7 degrees of gun depression but longer reload.

[modest solar]

Belenc

[misty wing]

How does the idea of a historically accurate IS-4 as a tier 8 premium sound
Like it'll have the d25 gun and pre-buff armor

Because let's be real, the IS-4 shouldn't be a tier 10 if its specs were remotely historically accurate

[plucky summit]

Well that's why they buffed it :p

[thorny smelt]

Ooof. Then the AP pen will be 175 mm which is too anemic for tier 8 heavy tank standards. The gun is 122 mm D-25T if you want it to be historically accurate.

[misty wing]

Yeah I don't remember the history that well but iirc it was supposed to be an alternate to the Is-3 so

[thorny smelt]

They have similar guns with IS-3 has 122 mm D-25

[thorny smelt]

This means poor to bad AP pen

[misty wing]

What if they gave it heat shells for standard with like 240 pen and 400 damage, and premium AP with 175 pen and like 450 damage

[plucky summit]

That's kind of toxic lol

Gotta nerf the turret too

[misty wing]

It had a turret roof weakspot that could be overmatched by basically anything before the buff

[plucky summit]

Useless when hulldown though

The armor profile, even pre-buff is just too good for tier 8, especially the sides and turret

[past crane]

How about 216/240/61 pen and 400/340/500 alpha.

[misty wing]

So a normal 122 at tier 8 lol

[past crane]

Yep

[solid gate]

my only tank in garage is ankou sp i dont have premiums is it enough for earn me creds

[vital flax]

with new credit system need to play at least tier6 for the extra credits from medals imo

[solid gate]

hmm i dont have tho.. my only tank is mauschen

[exotic fog]

🤨

[vital flax]

guess you'll prob have to stick with anko for now then

[solid gate]

😥

[exotic fog]

So you have two only tanks?

[solid gate]

well yea since i sell vk100 and when i recovered my account its only ankou sp and tiger p

[exotic fog]

Time to grind some credits and stock that garage.

[vital flax]

t6-t7 prob best for credits if you don't have good premium

[exotic fog]

You are getting stuck in the single tank hole, bad idea.

[vital flax]

t1-t5 credit income got killed with new credit system

[solid gate]

hmm 😓 well im wishing for a premium but yea no gold so haha😓

[vital flax]

ads and being in a clan that reaches max weekly reward is good to save up over time

[solid gate]

hmm okay but is my priority on gold is to get tier 6 or higher tier premium

[vital flax]

don't have much experience with prems in blitz version but in wot pc t8 prem income is much better and it's prob the case in blitz as well

if you're in a rush for cheap premium then a clan with lvl 10 supply is your cheapest option - 1.5k gold for IS-5 t8 prem

[blissful igloo]

Buff KpfPz 70 depression and change tiger 2 armor pls

[violet timber]

No

Actually, changing Tiger 2 armor isn't a bad idea, but kpf is good as is

[thorny smelt]

Unless hydropneumatic suspension is implemented in Blitz then MBT-70 will be the first to get it.

[solid gate]

hmm ok

[neat nimbus]

Because my family couldn't pay the bill

[safe cedar]

Is it just me or did the AMX 50 "buff" make it worse.

[plucky summit]

You've just had worse luck in it

[safe cedar]

My average dmg is still the same. It just feels weaker. I hope they improve the ground resistance a bit its quite horrible atm.

[ancient iron]

how is the AMXmas?

[thorny smelt]

Ask Droodles

[hard cedar]

don't rely on droodles for info thanks

[violet timber]

^

[thorny smelt]

Well I don't have the tank yet so you can ask others who had it already.

[ancient iron]

I forget what it was I watched of his recently but I recall thoroughly disagreeing with Droodles about another tank

[thorny smelt]

Spill the beans

[ancient iron]

I don't remember... it was like 2 weeks ago and was not a super recent vid but not ancient either.... I'd check my YT watch history but since I average like 14 hrs of YT/day.... soooo

[thorny smelt]

We have similar avg time consumed just watching YT LOL

[plucky summit]

Gun depression at least

[exotic falcon]

The tortoise needs a buff😩

[ancient iron]

imagine a Deathstar defender....

[safe cedar]

Can someone please explain WGs though process, why should a tank with 30mm of side armour have mobility on par with IS-3.

[topaz ledge]

Since FV215b 183 is getting a reworked armor model. will Vk 72.01k get a reworked armor model as well? I'm not saying Vk is trash but I don't get what its playstyle. Hull down? turret weak spot, side scrape? hull cheeks weak spot, front hull? mid-plate and lower plate, face hug? hull roof bumps. It doesn't have a playstyle, sometimes it can't do anything it's all 50/50 if it hits or bounces. very boring indeed.

[plucky summit]

The hull roof bumps don't exist physically

[neat nimbus]

grandma's gift or wow factor?

[hard cedar]

both are good!

[silk charm]

first one looks nice for a tank, like a blanket for it but go for whichever one you want

[cold ore]

But you'll need personal level 10 supply to get Is5. You could get a premium in store with gold from ads, before you reach level 10

[vital flax]

guess it depends on how many games you play per day

[cold ore]

True

[silk charm]

difference between is5 and is6? besides the weirdly barred off properties of the is5

[exotic falcon]

WAIT WHAT?

[misty wing]

what is this ugly abomination

[frail dagger]

my friend got this as a pop up,
random event?

[drifting grove]

@frail dagger WG seems to be giving some people random orders nowadays.
A while back, it was an order that gave tank research and purchase certificates, gold and ×5 XP Certificates for a certain number of wins.
Now they're giving an assortment of rewards for watching ads.

[frail dagger]

damn, and i only get ones in store

[solid gate]

hmm

[mystic drift]

uhh

[misty wing]

what's better, the tier 9 or 10 yoh

[onyx sluice]

I will say tier 9, because the turret is better. You also can face tier 8, where the 120mm gun will remove half the health of any tank.

[silk charm]

wait, it just lets you keep it? or is it an order

[solid gate]

orderrr

[scarlet kernel]

I know some people still hate this economy, but im getting better playing with no prov and consumeables (i don't have to worry losing credits). I wonder what happens now if i put the prov and consumeables back

[solid gate]

red credit numbers will go brrrr

[scarlet kernel]

I shall live with this till something else happened

[silk charm]

you will only live in pain

1+ min wait time go brr

[scarlet kernel]

nah, i said im getting better, 2k avg on a stock e3 with nothing is pretty good. plus im getting 40k credits avg

[silk charm]

god im genuinely awful at is3

time to immerse myself in countless videos of is3 gameplay

[scarlet kernel]

Good luck, the IS-3 before buff was really inaccurate

[drifting grove]

No.
Tier IX Yoh is far worse.
1 - Worse armour profile.
2 - 120mm is the only good gun, forcing you to play as a second-line support tank.
3 - 27 second clip reload.

M-VI-Yoh has trollish armour, and a choice between alpha (120mm with only 19.9 seconds reload, this time) and DPM. (105mm which gives you 3,024 DPM)
I've grinded the Yoh line and have almost 1,000 pub matches (1/5 of my total battles) on the M-VI-Yoh.
Tier-for-Tier, the best tank in that line is easily the M-VI-Yoh.

[mild otter]

They poor lol, from Blitz Cup

[solid gate]

Isn’t it about time to update the Tiger 1 legendary cammo? This ones 5 years old and there is nothing Legendary about an event years ago!

[wet prism]

The t10 is probably better for t10,but if u like the 2shell the t9 is far better tier for tier,since it has all the characteristics of the t10 on a lowered level but has far superior armor and the same 2 shell gun. The reload doesnt really matter since u have the same effect like the 2shell on t10

[strange thicket]

the reload does matter
it is almost half a minute, that is just way too long it is not worth it.

[drifting grove]

This^

@wet prism I do prefer the 120mm and I can tell you that there are several times when 7 additional seconds of reload feels like an eternity.

[plucky summit]

The 2 shot worked wonders for me, but it does rely on teammates and good positioning

[strange thicket]

lol most battles end before the 3 minutes mark
you can shoot twice every 1 minute. that is just too long.
but it is justified. you don't want 900alpha facing tier 8s with armor.

[plucky summit]

Oh. Well. I meant the VI, but ok

I skipped 🗿

[astral pulsar]

Hey can anyone help me out with the 57?

[vale quartz]

Whats the point grinding 183, except for Hesh Fetishes..
such a pain tech tree line :(

[astral pulsar]

True

[vale quartz]

Stock tortoise is Hell

[astral pulsar]

Is-4 when you could play with the stock ST-1 gun 😭

[drifting grove]

T57 Heavy?
Play second-line and use your clip to deal a ton of damage.

[astral pulsar]

Mmm, about 60 games and around a 57 percent win rate for me

If anyone could help me with the grille I would gladly appreciate it, I loved the waffle but the grille is an absolute handful to carry

[plucky summit]

The point is HESH

I don't know what to tell you

[strange thicket]

oh sorry, we were talking about the V not the VI

[plucky summit]

Yup, I noticed too late 🗿💀💀🐒🐒🗿🗿💀

[kindred wren]

Don‘t consider the Grille comparable to the Waffle. The Waffle is a lazy camping damage dealer whose parents were too nice to him.

The Grille is a rugged, shrewd assassin with no morals or honour that will backstab anyone and everyone on any opportunity, and will actively work to create these opportunities

[strange thicket]

i don't think waffle is a camping tank, it is more of an ambush tank.
i hate the shell velocity on that thing

[kindred wren]

Waffles don‘t ambush, Waffles just sit around and shoot people because they don‘t have to care

[wet prism]

Its 5 seconds additional reload,still is pretty average for heavies at t9 when u look at t9 heavies(Emil 2 or Amx 50 120) plus the armor is far better than the t10 yoh

[elder remnant]

What level is the PZ.KPFW.ll luches

I can get it if I watch 30 ads but I wanna know what rank because I don’t know if it’s worth it our not

[drifting grove]

Tier III, I think.

[elder remnant]

Eww

[drifting grove]

What did you expect?
Tier X?

[elder remnant]

Sad but hay gives me a reason to upgrade my ST 1

No I was hoping 4 at least

Do you guys know if there are any other ways to get this gorgeous beast tank other then premium

[manic carbon]

Only 1 way to get it so far

[elder remnant]

Dang then I am getting premium I must have this 4 tracked legend

[kindred wren]

It‘s tier four

Tier three is the Pz II G which looks similar

[blissful hamlet]

Luchs is Tier 4

[wet prism]

@elder remnant its t4

[thorny smelt]

Centaur camo should be added to FV4005 Stage II

[blissful hamlet]

Centaur camo?

[thorny smelt]

Well FV4005's name is Centaur

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/uk/fv4005-stage-i-ii/

Just like FV217 Badger

[blissful hamlet]

I didn't know

[thorny smelt]

FV221 Caernarvon
A39 Tortoise
FV4007 Centurion

[blissful hamlet]

Centurion is the 4007? I thought it was the 4201

[thorny smelt]

A34 Comet
A27 Cromwell

[thorny smelt]

There are LOTS of Centurions actually.

[thorny smelt]

FV4012 Centurion 7/1

FV4202 40-ton Centurion

[steep canyon]

And dont forgot to put Conway to the list and Centurion AX from WoT PC

[thorny smelt]

Action X is fake

[violet timber]

The Centurion AX was a prototype, the rest never existed

[thorny smelt]

FV4004 Conway

[steep canyon]

Yes thats what i mean

[past crane]

Rest of what? All the turreted British TDs existed…

[violet timber]

I was talking about the AX turrets…

[past crane]

Oh sorry lol.

[violet timber]

All good, I can see how it might be a bit confusing

[past fractal]

Reverse only

[violet timber]

Just drive it sideways

SP 1C needs a nerf, it’s too strong

[solid gate]

That's the neat part. You don't.

Sell it and get comet. Way better.

(Disclaimer: Dissajoke)

[rigid thunder]

it plays just like any tier 7 mt that has 0 armour, play ridgelines, flanking and that kind of thing

[narrow shadow]

Ik isajoke, but the Comet really is not that great. It's past its glory days with all the armour buffs.

[solid gate]

Yeah. Good gun depression tho.

If only it was a premium

[narrow shadow]

It's probably the only tank where I have more APCR than AP😂 With careful play it can work, but it's very difficult in my experience.

[solid gate]

I have a blast in it. The gd definitely helps a lot. 12 degrees iirc

[narrow shadow]

I'm just playing it too, I have decided to get the british lights. I am doing over 2k average, but I know I could do better in a heavy tank on the tier.

[solid gate]

Well... Bp is kinda broken lol.

Vick line is kinda broken af.

Very good line atm. Just so good

[narrow shadow]

Well I don't think I'll like the T8, but after that they seem to be very good, yes

[solid gate]

The tier 8 is probably the most broken of the entire line.

I kid you not

Am still doing very well in it with only a gun rammer and optics

[narrow shadow]

Is that so? It doesnt seem to have the troll turret armour, and the alpha will probably hold it back.

[solid gate]

Nah. You'll see.

The thing wrecks everything and drives so fluidly.

Not to exaggerate but it's still very powerful for a light tank.

[narrow shadow]

I will see I guess. After that, I'm probably gone lol, I'm just not gonna play TDs and this is the last line I am interested in.

[rigid thunder]

nah, not by a long shot. It doesn't get the armour of the tier 9-10 tanks, and is rewarded with a small 190 alpha gun, nor does it get the viewrange of the tier 10.
It's still an excellent tank, but compared to the extremely good balancing decisions that are the vickers CR and 105... not so much

[solid gate]

Yeah. But it feels so good cuz tier 8 is filled with idiots for the most times.

I guess that could be the reason why my opinions ended up like this.

[narrow shadow]

And you probably don't see the sub-5k MM. Saw a dude playing Chieftain the other day for stats, the first 100 battles in this special MM. I can't believe how big of a difference it makes, it was literally sealclubbing.

[solid gate]

Yes.

[trail orchid]

I used to hate seeing that little E25 in the opposition team but since getting it myself it's a great little tank to play in

[lime schooner]

I noticed that one of my tanks has what looks like a thumbtack symbol in the icon box while in the garage. Anyone know what it means?

[onyx sluice]

It means you've pinned the tank, like pinning a comment on social media it always appears first in your garage.

[lost comet]

Double tap to unpin

[inland plume]

what are the statpad tanks rn?

[violet timber]

Chim, 50TP proto, T54E2, anything below tier 5 probably

[hard cedar]

is7

[drifting grove]

Means you've pinned the tank.
It'll now always appear at the top of that bar.
You can do or undo it by double-tapping it.

[wise moth]

My personal favorites are IS-7 for winrate, T57 for damage right now

[elder stag]

is vk 72.01 good or not

[solid gate]

i dont own it but i played against it sometimes but i dont see them very mutch so i gues not? but when i played against them the armor seems good

[kindred wren]

It‘s good but there are better choices if you seek op tanks

[wise moth]

It’s pretty bad. Rear mounted turret, terribad DPM, and tall profile make it exceedingly awkward to play. The armor is easily penned with HEAT (or standard if you’re angled even a little bit), and it’s pretty slow too. All it has going for it is the big 640 alpha and good HP pool. Also the line leading to it sucks too

[misty wing]

if only we had the panzer vii

[mystic sleet]

We already do (the Tiger 2/Köningstiger)

[violet timber]

Not really, that’s why I’m aiming for places 4-10 on the HoF and I may be able to get it

[misty wing]

Tiger II is the panzer VI B. For reference, the Pz Kpfw VII on PC is a VK 72 with a 128mm gun.

[violet timber]

The Pz VII is technically the Lowe

[misty wing]

The Pz VII project is the Lowe, yes, but there were two proposals: the "leichter Lowe" and "schwerer Lowe", of which the former is the tier 8 premium and the latter is the Pz Kpfw VII in PC

[lyric copper]

The side profile is incredibly horrid looking ngl

at least the maus’s sides are completely flat

[steep canyon]

The tank u try to pen is Vk 16.02 and that doesn't need to be nerfed

[violet timber]

I know, that's the joke

[steep canyon]

Lol

SP I C is already weak like its paper armor HE can just pen it

[thorny smelt]

Well Panzer VII is also known as the Lowe.

[dusty dawn]

Any thoughts on the Su-122-44?

[violet timber]

Average td, nothing special

[vast cove]

is the t 34 shielded even good

[thorny smelt]

If you don't have premium tanks then go for it.

[violet timber]

Honestly seems decent on paper

[hard cedar]

wdym, go for it anyway it's completely free

[violet timber]

Free credits

[hollow notch]

Meh
It gives up the amazing zis57mm for an armor profile that only works against tanks with complete garbage pen

[violet timber]

True, but 25mm of spaced is nothing to scoff at

[hollow notch]

The front is still weak, and the only thing the armor stands up to is a leo

[violet timber]

The front is what worries me, but that 8 degrees of gd sounds nice

[hollow notch]

Yup, but even then, you got the m4 and the y5t34 to compete with in that category

[violet timber]

Seems decent, but there are definitely better tanks

[hollow notch]

You might be able to get away with this against noobs that won't know the track weakness
But that frontal armor is just really sad

[misty wing]

Imagine caring about tier 5

the only ones I play nowadays are the Shinobi and anko

[violet timber]

I've only played tier 8 and up for a while

[solid gate]

can i sidescrape on the tank?

[royal cargo]

How likey is a 60tp nerf or a Yoh nerf

[visual hatch]

is this just a Leo reskin?

[feral escarp]

no its a svear....

[strange thicket]

yeah a leo reskin

[scarlet kernel]

I just want to recall back to my point of tank designation doesn't really meant much
For ex. people call the T95E6 "medium tank" As a heavium

The selection of the classes here are basically split into two

A (class) by stats, or A (class) by weight

Other ex. The pershing irl is a heavy tank, but some are designated as medium here

[steep canyon]

Its more to a swear

[lyric copper]

the Pershing was re-designated as a medium tank

also the Italians would have classed the P43 and P44 as heavies, but are mediums in game

[steep canyon]

Yeah ikr

Those tanks are designed and built for the Country's terrain so the tank is basically made for such ad mountain climber and they want a good speed for it

[wise moth]

Type based matchmaking actually does mean that type matters in Blitz. An AMX 50 B might behave more like a medium, but it uses up one of the heavy tank slots on your team

[hollow moth]

I really like it, mostly post buff

[dusty dawn]

My bro, who plays ASIA server, is getting fond of it. He sends me play vids with it.

[thorny smelt]

107mm ZisS-24 gun is the best armament for KV-4

[bright sentinel]

Action x or Progetto 46?

[gloomy rune]

I svear this is a leo reskin. Yes this is a pun. Cry about it

[gloomy rune]

Why r u asking it now tho lol

[bright sentinel]

I want to know which one is better

[lyric copper]

can’t really compare the 2 to each other, as they are different in every way

I’d pick Prog.46 over CAX due to the fact that the CAX is less powerful once the standard caern’s alpha was buffed

[bright sentinel]

Ah alr thx

[drifting grove]

But prog is rather harder to play, and the Action X is still quite powerful.
Depends on what you prefer, really.

[lyric copper]

^

If you like heavies, CAX

If you like MTs more, pick Prog for burst damage god, 5/1 for hulldown sustained fire

[drifting grove]

This^

[trail orchid]

Be my first Xmas on this game what's the offers like and the I have stuff about an auction , what's the story with that

[hard cedar]

Just pick prog

[full sail]

Will the Lorraine 40 T be sold for blitz fair?

[solid gate]

Mayhaps. Got mine last BF and it was hella good. Difficult to play well imo.

[full sail]

I know I specialize in French tanks I just really hope they sell it

[solid gate]

Lorraine fearless is slightly better tho. But I guess you don't play ratings much.

As to whether lorraine will be there, I can feel it will appear there since I haven't seen any offers about that tank for some time. At least more than a month or 2

[full sail]

When was the last time it was sold?

[solid gate]

Don't recall. There was a French themed offers around 1 or 2 months ago. It might been there but I didn't pay attention much. Sry

Could be in auction cuz there's still people wanting it I suppose

[full sail]

Yeah that must have been bastele day it’s the American equivalent of the 4th of July

[solid gate]

Make sense. Could have been when somua sm first released in crates

They might have added a bunch of offers and in it, might be lorrain

[full sail]

They just never sell the Lorraine and when they do I’m usually out of the country and don’t have internet access

[solid gate]

F.

They do. I recall seeing an offer with lorraine just a couple months back. But I can't recall the exact month.

Since they didn't sell it this BF, it might appear in auction for once.

[full sail]

I’d be perfectly fine with that as long as I can get it

[drifting grove]

Maybe they're watching you and waiting for you to travel before putting it up on sale.

[full sail]

Bruv that’s what I feel like every time

[deft notch]

WTF a Jg.Pz E100 HE my E5 turret and give me 1K dmg ! BUFF T110E5 TURRET WG !!!

[hard cedar]

💀

[blissful hamlet]

Cupola, the jg hit ur small cupola

[lime star]

Will they bring the opportunity for Sheridan missile back?

[violet timber]

Lmao get wrecked.

[tender valley]

Lmao touch grass

[ancient iron]

at what point do the British turretless TDs get good?

[lime schooner]

@onyx sluice ...thanks

@drifting grove thank you

[hollow belfry]

They don't

[violet egret]

E75-ts just lost its purpose as a DPM german heavy at t8

[wise moth]

The AT-15 is actually decent. A little situational, but it’s not that bad

[kindred wren]

It‘s literally op

[ancient iron]

OH MY GOD! I just bounced a KV-2 in my AMX 12 t XD

[wintry orchid]

You got Revalorisé?? That’s a nice one imo

[ancient iron]

the M4 Ravioli is such a fun tank! 10/10 recommend.... IF you enjoy avg mobility, no armor, but an AMAZING gun

[full sail]

Yes I love it

[wintry orchid]

Only annoying thing is that you got quite bad pen without calibrated but with it you got 9.2 sec reload

[fresh mantle]

What about the Churchill Mk 7

[full sail]

That’s why you have good gun handling to aim at weak points

[ancient iron]

also 200 isn't awful at t8....

[wintry orchid]

Yeah but Tiger II. Otherwise that’s right

[wintry orchid]

But 250 isn’t enough for heavies often especially t9

[ancient iron]

the T-54 first Proto has 175/235 and worse handling.... it can work... (and I think worse mobility too tbh)

[wintry orchid]

But broken armour af (it’s my most played tank)

[ancient iron]

ngl... I prefer the Super Perhing's armor

[wintry orchid]

But I know there that I won’t pen a Tiger II and I don’t with the rev so that’s probably my problem…

[full sail]

I just want them to sell the Lorraine they never do unless it’s Bastille day

[wintry orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-perplexed-what-are-you-serious-huh-gif-15466725

[wintry orchid]

iirc it was in Blitz fair last year but don’t quote me on this

[ancient iron]

yeah ik.... it's worse.... dunno why but I have a waaaay higher winrate in the pershing though.... and better damage blocked on average

[wintry orchid]

I still got a certificate for the legendary camo of the super Pershing for some reason… maybe I’ll get it for free some day

[ancient iron]

god I adore this thing... :p (sorry had to) in all seriousness... it's pretty fun

[wintry orchid]

Well I didn’t play my mod 1 since Black Friday coz rev and prog and shark and chimera…. Rip balanced mod 1

[full sail]

It infuriates me when I see a 40%er in a Lorraine

[full sail]

I’m gonna be beyond mad if it isn’t this year

[wintry orchid]

Noooooooo the pickle will shrivel up

[ancient iron]

also jay... in fairness.... I have a tank that I think is just.... the Super Pershing but better.... (or that's how it feels, so that's how I play it.) it's the...... t54e2

[full sail]

Yep it will be dry and tasteless

[wintry orchid]

Yeah that’s the other thing. And one of the factors I haven’t played mod 1 for half a month

Nooo not the salty pickle

[full sail]

I’m gonna start grinding ranked to get the fearless

[wintry orchid]

Bruh that’s a lot of effort

[ancient iron]

I still cannot figure out:

1. why a KV2 was throwing AP around (defs the 152 mm)
2. HOW THE HELL I bounced a shell from it in my AMX 12 t....
   .-.

[wintry orchid]

And at least Pantouf said the Defender Mk 1 would come for Christmas. Dunno if it’s credible or not but isn’t the defender a better Lorraine with smaller clip but better Turret and BRI‘ISH

[wintry orchid]

Gun or tracks. Tracks are strange they can even bounce a 183mm bomb without breaking

[full sail]

Yeah that’s how bad I want the Lorraine

[wintry orchid]

Well my friend did the grind for the IS6 Fearless when it was available and he didn’t play ranked like this ever since

[misty wing]

how would you rank all the premium/collector tier 10s from best to worst

[wintry orchid]

Don’t you have to get top 100 ten times
@full sail

Which is like 5 or 6k

[full sail]

No you have to get top 5 once or top 30 twice

[wintry orchid]

Oof still above 5k that’s nothing I can think of…

[full sail]

Yeah last season was 5.4K was 1st place

[wintry orchid]

Oh what? Thought it was more

[full sail]

If I’m really try Harding I can get around 70% WR in ranked

Meh more like 65

[ancient iron]

just played my Super Conqueror for the first time... and considering I don't have much experience with t10 games, and didn't even take it into a training room to feel out the tank.... I think this wasn't too bad a first game... and I see why it's well liked

[misty wing]

so you just had the tank in your garage for a while and never played it until now? 🤔

[thorny smelt]

Just like my brother who doesn't play the VK 90.01 P. It is collecting dust for 2 years already.

[misty wing]

isn't the VK 90 really good though
I would definitely like one myself

[thorny smelt]

It's my dream tank. I wanted a tier 10 collector vehicle or premium tank that has good armor and a lovely gun. VK 90.01 P is my 1st choice.

[full sail]

I want something fast small with gun depression and a auto loader

[narrow shadow]

Well it's also pretty broken, so yeah.

[thorny smelt]

I guess you like the Batignolles-Chatillon line.

[full sail]

Yep the only tier 10 tank I’ll play

[thorny smelt]

I like the Ho-Ri line

[misty wing]

I like most tanks as long as they look cool and have decent gun handling
Hated the t49 because that gun was just so troll

[thorny smelt]

Bad pen I would say. You need to use prammo or go to the sides and back of the tank.

[narrow shadow]

Doesn't help that the T49 is objectively garbage. Look at what Chimera gets with 440 alpha and actually normal penetration 😂

[plucky summit]

Bad, but pretty fun for most players
Same lane as 183

[misty wing]

183 has good pen though
and I haven't checked the stats but the gun handling is probably slightly better too

[thorny smelt]

Once the gun caliber is getting bigger, the lesser the accuracy.

[misty wing]

that's not necessarily how things work, it only exists for balancing reasons in most cases

[plucky summit]

When you play 183

HESH acts as the standard round and AP is the prammo 😂

[misty wing]

well at least it has a "pramo"
t49 just has HE and really bad heat

[thorny smelt]

I'm a sniper so I can make use of that less accurate gun and still pen the enemy tank

[thorny smelt]

RIP credits

[misty wing]

wouldn't you have a hard time sniping in an inaccurate tank 🤔

[plucky summit]

Not in my 183 :p

[ancient iron]

I got it like... a month ago and have mostly not even played WOT in that time 😛

[wintry orchid]

The only tank with free prammo

[plucky summit]

Loll

[wintry orchid]

Sadly the standard is like 8k per round (idk don’t own it)

[thorny smelt]

No

[solid gate]

Amx 50 b vs t57 heavy? Which better

[plucky summit]

T57 Heavy focuses more on armor, AMX focuses more on speed

[fast compass]

Does t57 now tho? It has pretty much the same armor profile as 50b but slightly harder to HE it from the side

[misty wing]

t57 is better purely for the intraclip imo

[fast compass]

50b is better just for flexibility imo

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[misty wing]

3 seconds on the 50b feels like an eternity especially when most tanks are 2 seconds or less on PC

and it isn't very fun to drive a gimped version of an original vehicle
which is why I don't like autoloaders in blitz

[fast compass]

Autoloaders in general are gutted to add in blitz

[violet timber]

And they’re still rather strong most of the time

[fast compass]

I want 390x5 Buffchat /s

[violet timber]

TVP

[misty wing]

I know they're strong, they just feel sad when you've been exposed to the PC versions first

[misty wing]

are any tier 10 collectors actually good at making credits

[thorny smelt]

All of them have the same credit coefficient (140%)

[fast compass]

Not exactly same but more or less. As long as you avoid t22 and m60 you will be making decent to good credits in your tier 10 enriched tanks

Both t22 and m60 have tech tree level credit coefficient. Well used to. Ig they nerfed tech tree tanks credit coefficient this patch

[mystic drift]

ohey, yes Maus is a good heavy, but i really recommended buffing its turret armor that cant be pennetrated by any tanks usual ammo like AP, it should only by pennetrated by HEAT or APCR, one time i used it, i can just turn my turret and my hull to hide weakspots, but once they used HEAT or APCR, the turret almost have no armor, specially with 310+ penetration, and showing many weakspots,

[violet timber]

Angling properly makes the Maus impenetrable to basically anything except high pen tds, it’s fine

[drifting grove]

Uhhh.... what for?

[solid gate]

Good evening, I would like to know which tank is good please?

[misty wing]

they're completely different tanks. Just pick depending on which tier 10 you want

[solid gate]

Hum I want Sheridan so T92E1

[misty wing]

go for it then

I'm not sure how good the t92e1 is after the nerfs and missile removal, but I didn't really enjoy the 54e1 personally

[solid gate]

But it is expensive in xp and in credits the Sheridan.

[misty wing]

research costs should never be a factor in what tank you go for tbh

[solid gate]

Yes, but I struggle with tank destroyers and 2 medium tanks tiers 5.

[past crane]

That shouldn’t affect your decision if you’re playing light tanks

[solid gate]

Okay

[drifting grove]

Depends on the Tier X you want.
Sheridan is strong, but the T57 Heavy is truly dangerous.
But it depends on your playstyle, in the end.

[solid gate]

T57 kinda op

I did 7k dmge twice no sweat.. just farmin

Me I have 39,75% of ratio

And 4 star in honor military

[charred vigil]

All the Vehicle research costs if you were to free exp, only includes modules in the direct path of research https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UdnwgWUy5EHs6XTB1eiaCXLpNygvC5Iej2cIYNu66JQ/edit?usp=sharing

Summary:
Most expensive tank per nation
M-VI-Yoh
E100 Medium path
Obj 140 Light path
FV215b 183
STB-1 - Most expensive out of all
WZ-113G FT
Foch 155
60TP

Least expensive tank per nation
M48
VK72.01K
Obj. 263
Vickers Light sherman firefly path
Ho-Ri
WZ-113
AMX 50 B
Kranvagn - least expensive

All TT average 791.317k

[sand axle]

Hi, i love to play with my Churchill VIII. Why? had a cat named Churchill <3 and for my is the best!

[charred vigil]

Most Expensive TT line STB-1 902.47k
Least Expensive TT line Kranvagn 667.88k

[fast compass]

Wait I thought batchat was cheaper to get than 50b

[charred vigil]

The whole line total of 50 b is 710.51k and batchat is 719.25k

[misty wing]

once I was free xp'ing and accidentally bought a really expensive module that wasn't in the path of research ;-;

[fast compass]

Oh I see, it's pretty close

[charred vigil]

I just wasted like an hour and a half cataloging it but i always wanted to see

[fast compass]

Done that multiple times. Recently wasted 50k on e50 because of that useless gun on the side

[misty wing]

the long 88mm?

[fast compass]

What was worse is that I had enough for 50m before I wasted 50k

[charred vigil]

the most expensive average tt is british at 824.301k
and least expensive nation average is french at 757.69k

[fast compass]

Ig so. Never looked too much into it. 8.8 is too small for tier 9

[charred vigil]

during my calculations i found out that basically for most or all research up to tier 5 it was the same

[misty wing]

iirc that gun is on the panther 2 in PC, should actually do pretty well there

[fast compass]

Perhaps. It has similar pen as the 10.5 but 200 dpm less in blitz. It could be playable with the gun but 10.5 is outright better outside of permatrackinh

[misty wing]

Luckily I didn't waste any xp when I free xp'd the yoh

[sand axle]

How i can get a premium tank without paying?

[misty wing]

watch ads, get lucky

[sand axle]

I always see ads to earn money and gold 😅

[charred vigil]

play f2p events and win contests

[misty wing]

I got a Skorpion G from a Christmas event one time for free
You just have to get lucky

Maybe my game is rigged in my favor though since I bought the 25k gold object 260 pack today, and got the AMX 30b in the crates that come with it

[hollow sequoia]

i got the vk 90 from a globe

[thorny smelt]

Lucky Q_Q I'm so jealous

[misty wing]

I want a vk 90

[thorny smelt]

Same

[drifting grove]

I want a Chieftain Mk.6 or a Super Conqueror.

[misty wing]

how good is the amx 30b considered? I kinda like it but the dpm is just awful

[violet timber]

The 30B is average tbh, not good but not bad

[misty wing]

what's the worst tier 10 prem/collector
honestly I feel like most of them are pretty whatever except the t-22 and vk 90

[charred vigil]

mle or 260 or 121b

[thorny smelt]

AMX M4 54

[fast compass]

Badger, 30b.

The rest are pretty good for their skill caps in pubs. Badger is extremely situational because of it's mobility but Ig I am dissing it too much. 30b otoh really has nothing going for it apart from slightly troll turret and mobility

260 is ultra high skill cap. 121b is a worse 62a but it still can work. M4 54 is quite good in pubs, especially after its tech tree competitions got nerfed hard

[lime schooner]

@drifting grove you answered a question of mine

[drifting grove]

Oh, okay.
Yw.

[charred vigil]

after is7 buff man the 260 is just not worth it tbh

a really high skill cap really doesn't do wonders for a tank

[uneven charm]

Anyone know which is best tech tree?

[charred vigil]

the problem will high skill ceiling tanks are they are very situational and that first of all you have to be really good to effectively use it in pubs and secondly if your facing someone of high skill but playing just an overall better tank, you are at a severe disadvantage because its so situational

thats why they are never meta and you'll be better off playing a less specialized tank cough heavy

[charred vigil]

probably at the moment e50m is a top contender the tech tree is not bad and the tier X is really good

[charred vigil]

Actually no I think top contender right now could be the 60TP tree

[uneven charm]

I have much money left from gravity playing my sheri missile ill buy e50 m now

Ok ill go for both@charred vigil

[charred vigil]

the 53TP is just a superior is3 in every way and a really really good tier 8, 50tp right now is strong and 60tp is really good

[uneven charm]

Ok thanks bro

[drifting grove]

60TP and Vickers Light.

[scarlet kernel]

50tp prot going 50kph brrr

My speed build on it is fun

[drifting grove]

Yeah. The entire 60TP techtree is really strong for its Tier. Vickers Light tree fits that too, though.

[scarlet kernel]

Not sure why the stat didn't change but, i put the 2 gear oil on, and an imroved fuel

The two gear oils made +6 top speed, and my backward speed in the prot is 21kph

I just checked, and apparently i have a chance to outrun a 50 B

[strange thicket]

lol damn, i just tried this setup
this tank is simply stupid, i also used Engine Accelerator with it.

[scarlet kernel]

The polish cavalry

[drifting grove]

This is my setup for the 60TP. It works well for me.

[strange thicket]

he was talking about the 50tp prot with double gear oil and the big fuel

[drifting grove]

Oh, right.

[strange thicket]

literally drives like a medium. it is stupid

[drifting grove]

It's a heavium.

[strange thicket]

it is an IS8 with its problems fixed.
good gun, good alpha, good gun depression.
and also a very strong turret.

[drifting grove]

Yeah. But it has a similarly weak hull.

[strange thicket]

the hull is weak but the turret is impenetrable.
also the hull can bounce if you are on a ridge, at which they would have to shoot your lowerplate.

[drifting grove]

Yeah, Ik.

[solid gate]

dont use protective kit??

[steady loom]

How is the Tiger2? Not touched it for ages.

[narrow shadow]

Pretty OP.

[mystic sleet]

What is that camo?

[onyx sluice]

Its the camo you got from the VK168 mission.

[mystic sleet]

K cool

[drifting grove]

Nah, I need the provisions I've selected.

[solid gate]

hmm

[drifting grove]

It's strong, but not even close to OP.

[hollow moth]

An above average tank, anti low-pen armor and ok mobility for a heavy, but there's better options to fight another heavies

[drifting grove]

Like I said: Strong, but not OP.

[hollow moth]

Exactly

[ancient iron]

so..... I have heard a lot of mentions that the Chi-Ri is bad... but I just had my best ever game in it.... which was only good enough for 2nd class....

2589 dmg, admittedly only 928 base XP though...

side note: WOW the interclip reload for the Chi-Ri is kinda insane

[silent light]

My T54 ltwl winrates drop 5% sad....

[wet prism]

Try this one,it works really well.