vehicles-discussion

[analog silo]

J2 is way better. The frontal casemate is actually strong armor wise and both mobility and gun are better. While theoretically the ferdi has armor, it is worthless against the majority of tanks in its spread, just like J2’s hull. So you might as well go faster. I won’t say the J2 is easy to play. But you can make it work. And every single skilled player I know prefers it. For additional information I recommend watching HRF’s jag pz e100 showcase on YouTube.

[ancient iron]

aight time to grind out the J2.... now... which gun is better on the JPanther?

[thorny smelt]

The top gun is always better

[analog silo]

I used the 10.5 cm gun. I don’t think the DPM boost on the lower gun is worth the alpha and penetration loss. Just hull down vs other tier 7s and farm.

I’m going to take the J2 out for a couple battles just to make sure I can put my money where my mouth is.

[ancient iron]

aight.... selling my WoT Blitz acc.... (Note: not actually. but probably gonna leave it to collect dust for 3-4 years.)

[analog silo]

It holds up. Just think how good Skorpion is and then trade the turret for better gun handling, reload, and a small amount of armor.

[hard cedar]

Skorp has better handling

[high anvil]

Yeah Skorp has better handling, at the cost of HE-able armor and no spall liner

[analog silo]

My life is a lie…

It has 0.3 second better aim time and 0.018 better dispersion. And I’d wager these are negated by turret traverse bloom. I have always felt playing the two side by side that the J2 has better handling.

[high anvil]

idk about that. Slight turret bloom is still better than JP2 having to turn hull from narrow gun arc

Plus the camo reset

And I think you play Skorp with refined gun? Where you can’t play JP2 without stabs, so the dispersion difference is even bigger

[steep canyon]

Well the Skorp always getting HE spam by enemy team due to a paper thin armor and some ppl tunelled that and trying to HE the back and the side bcs its more to a glass canons

[analog silo]

I use stabs on both because snapshots are my bread and butter

[thick trout]

The skorp and jpii are just too different to compare, similar guns but very different platforms and very different jobs. Personally I prefer the jpii because who doesn't love speeding about the map with a beautiful gun and great armour when you find a position

[solid gate]

No. Cent mk1 receive rof buff whilst caer gets its type B barrel alpha buff, iirc.

That's why they're nerfing type a pen for tech tanks.

[neat nimbus]

Yes

[full cargo]

y my tank have blue name?

[plucky summit]

All Collector's vehicles have blue names

[full cargo]

k thx

[ancient star]

Collecter tank

[steep canyon]

Guys, should WG add ASEAN tech tree tanks?

[full cargo]

yee

[steep canyon]

Yeah they should do that

[analog silo]

As opposed to Japanese, American, Australian, and Chinese tanks, what could you add?

[steep canyon]

Indonesian light tanks

Such as Harimau MT or more to a Tiger in English to Indonesian Language

[analog silo]

A tank that first rolled in 2017 hmm

With a top speed of 78 km/h and an auto loading 105. Interestingly lacking in ATGMs

You could just look at polish tanks upside down instead…
(I’m joking of course. I hope your flag enters the game some day @steep canyon )

[steep canyon]

Yeah

[steep canyon]

It suposed to rivaling Sheridan tanks bcs both armor are same

[analog silo]

Put a bat chat turret on a Sheridan hull and bam, harimau

[full cargo]

Which tanks should I get

[drifting grove]

They're all really good.
Depends enitrely on your playstyle.

[steep canyon]

Well if ur playstyle more to a HT then take the Polish line

If ur playstyle more to a suport tank take the Italian and Swedish line

[drifting grove]

To summarise EU:
Kranvagn line: Slooooowwww hulldowners with low dpm, but very strong turret. Possibly the weakest tanks of the line.
60TP line: Hulldown kings. Frontline tanks with high-alpha, good gun depression, and decent speed and mobility.
Progetto 65 line: Very fast tanks with no armour.
TVP T50/51 line: Dangerous clip damage.

[full cargo]

K thanks

[steep canyon]

Well i think i grind for TVP 50/51

[drifting grove]

I'm going to grind for the 60TP.
I had the Kran, but it was too slow for me to bear and the DPM was absolutely horrendous.
I sold it.

[past fractal]

Take that “progetto 65 line has no armor” back

[lyric copper]

yeah good luck bouncing the rest of the line

prog 65 armour is just well angled

[steep canyon]

Well same to Prog 46

The hull has paper armor and can easily penetrated by all tier 7s

So i better take the Centurion Mk 5 RAAC from blitz cup reward

[lyric copper]

it trades this for some extreme burst potential

[steep canyon]

Yep

Well i more prefer to play with autoloaders bcs how strong clip damage is and longer it survive more dangerous the situation is

[solid gate]

yeah but when your clip is done you are pretty mutch dead if people are near

[ancient star]

The one that gonna take prog 46 are big brain

[nocturne tiger]

Welp this is probably gonna be a painful stock

[thorny smelt]

Looks like a coffin on a gun carriage

[onyx sluice]

That turret is almost identical to the ones that the Germans put on their cruisers (like Prinz Eugen)

[steep canyon]

Yea ik how suck the tank while stock

[nocturne tiger]

Surprisingly the tank isn't that bad in stock, the gun doesn't seem inaccurate despite the stats and it goes really fast without the top engine for some reason

[onyx sluice]

Looks like Wargaming took some inspiration, eh?

[steep canyon]

Lol

That looks boxy and its heavily armored better than ARL 44 stock

With the stock turret that is tooo boxxxy and no armor at all

[violet timber]

The Prog isn’t exactly fast, and the TVP is ridiculously fast. Also the Prog upper plate with EA is extremely bouncy

[steep canyon]

So should i recover my Pz IV Gargoyle?

[violet timber]

Only if you play tier 5

[steep canyon]

Yes i do to make some new ppl crying

Like 1 shot some Alecto the British TD

[thick trout]

Maybe you shouldn't have bullying new players as your only way of fun 🤔

[steep canyon]

bcs for some reason i am always killed by a tank by a tier lower than mine and he is has less than 1k battles

thats why i want something op and a totally derp

[violet timber]

Maybe you should try getting good so you don’t get killed like that

[steep canyon]

well thats why i am always bullying some ppl with less than 1k of batlles on tier 6 battle

[rigid thunder]

What a nice person!

[drifting grove]

That's called sealclunbbing and not a remotely good thing to do.

[sacred karma]

Its cowardly really

[eternal canopy]

should I get the Jagdtiger right now or wait for BF and see if any other good tanks show up?

[sacred karma]

Wait for Black Friday

[onyx sluice]

The Gargoyle is insanely fun but I wouldn't really call it OP.

[plucky summit]

It's over the average, but T1 Heavy and BDR G1 B still exist

[naive jasper]

Yes I have it and it is a decent tank if you come up against tier 6 & 7’s it sucks.

[rugged elm]

Anyone an idea how much the Rex livery of the super conqueror costs?

[rugged elm]

Thanks 🙏 😊

[junior pawn]

Guys, is the t54 ltwt any good ? Also what does ltwt stand for ?

[charred vigil]

Lightweight, T-54 Lightweight. because you know it’s basically a t54 with no armor

[wise moth]

It’s eh. A lot of people like it, but Im not a fan.
Also ltwt stands for “lightweight”

[charred vigil]

I think it’s a fun tank pretty speedy and Okay gun and Dpm alpha at 280 trades more than average

[wise moth]

The mobility is good, and it can troll a bounce or two, but the gun honestly isn’t good enough to make up for the lack of armor and HP, and 5 degrees of gun depression is kind of pain

[charred vigil]

I bounced a t95 twice before lol

[outer sand]

bruh despite me being a fan of medium tanks i keep thinking about buying a fv301 despite me not a big fan of light tanks

[wise moth]

British lights are basically just mediums

[outer sand]

centurion mk1 drawbacks are just on another level

[outer sand]

cool ig

[junior pawn]

Does anyone know how to play the DW 2?

[bitter olive]

what is a leopard 1's role in battle?

[kindred wren]

Looking pretty, I guess

Also, mobile damage farming. No direct engagements if you can help it

[bitter olive]

ok thanks

[onyx sluice]

Like a typical German heavy.

If you want to bounce shells gotta angle that flat, boxy armor.

Whoa, I checked the DW 2s stats and man it looks like a bad tank.

It essentially has no armor and the gun is bad. According to Blitz Hangar there are places on its turret with 0 armor? Zero?

[violet timber]

DW 2 is workable, especially in side scraping positions

[hot fulcrum]

Would anybody like to see a Swiss line? I have made a document about that.

(Updated document to be released soon)

[bitter olive]

nice

[hot fulcrum]

Check it out! I'm also in the process of making a South Korean line

[violet timber]

Slight problem, the Panzer 87 is a Leopard 2, which is way too modern to add. Move the Panzer 74 up and find some other tank to fill the gaps that are created and I think it could work

[hot fulcrum]

Yeah, there are a lot of variants of the Panzer 74, the one I have included is the Variante D with Variante H hull

Variante D with Variante H hull

[violet timber]

That might work as a sort of E50/E50M or Leo PTA/Leo 1 relationship

I just did some quick research on the tanks you have in the line because I’d never heard of many of them. There’s also the issue of the Panzer 58 already being in game

[hot fulcrum]

I'll update the link with some statistics

Hmmm yeah, I'll release the updated version soon

[violet timber]

I’m excited to see if this comes to anything. I’ll also see if I can find any problems with the tds to try and help it be as realistic for the game as possible

[hot fulcrum]

Well, there are some problems with the TDs. G13 (tier 6) is the same as Hetzer, hence carrying the same 75mm gun, but with a faster reload and more penetration to suit Tier 6

[tawdry raven]

Guys should I go down the tiger path or the Maus path? Your opinions, I won’t get mad.

[junior pawn]

Hmm, which is the best gun for t 54 ? D 10t2c or d 54 ?

[violet timber]

So maybe you can move it down to tier 5, buff it, and find another td to fill the gap?

[hot fulcrum]

No more tds that I could find

[violet timber]

Tiger path, tanks are overall better.

@junior pawn whichever gun has the better dpm and gun handling, the D-10 I think

[junior pawn]

OOO ok

[violet timber]

Nahkampfkanone 2, did you have this one?

[hot fulcrum]

That is the Gustav, same 75mm

[tawdry raven]

When you already bought the VK 100.1

[violet timber]

There is the Taifun

[violet timber]

Then get the Maus, it’s still a rather good vehicle due to sheer armor and HP

@hot fulcrum look up MOWAG, they have some neat ideas that you can look at for a new td

[hot fulcrum]

New link for Swiss line: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zNdRzcdrjw2V4SYzitdydIbVgF5reX4nYkx0yHugDL4/edit?usp=sharing

[tawdry raven]

Why get the tiger though what is the T10 of the tiger path

[violet timber]

It’s the E100 which has less armor than the Maus but a better gun

[violet timber]

The M109 may not fit into WoTB as it is technically artillery and is a massive target with not a whole lot of armor.

[hot fulcrum]

Piranha IV might fit into the td line, although as you said, modern tanks are usually not found in this game

Piranha IV with 105mm cannon

[violet timber]

It may be hard, but I think it’s doable

[hot fulcrum]

Updated link for Swiss line: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zNdRzcdrjw2V4SYzitdydIbVgF5reX4nYkx0yHugDL4/edit?usp=sharing

[median oak]

Wheeled tanks/AFV won’t come to Blitz.

New mechanics required for the suspension and steering. Also since Blitz doesn’t have Arty or coax or Commander Machine guns - wheeled vehicles are way to mobile.

[violet timber]

There’s always the MOWAG Cheetah

[hot fulcrum]

I have included it

New link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zNdRzcdrjw2V4SYzitdydIbVgF5reX4nYkx0yHugDL4/edit?usp=sharing

[violet timber]

I’m not seeing any glaring issues with it personally

[hot fulcrum]

Might be a problem with Leichter Panzer 51, as it is the same as AMX 13 75, but this will not feature an autoloader

[shell robin]

I need some tips and tricks for the KV-1s

[analog silo]

Trade 1 for 1 with enemy heavies and you’ll win. Most tier 6 tanks will die in 3 shots or less. Play with your team because you’re easy to rush on your reload.

[hot fulcrum]

Stick to the 122mm gun

[shell robin]

who doesn't use the 122?

[charred vigil]

why is the 53tp a straight up better is-3

[boreal spruce]

#balancing - WG

[hollow notch]

It's not straight up better than the is3, the is3 has 3° more gun elevation

[analog silo]

Is3 has better armor particularly on the turret. This is most noticeable when face hugging or getting shot in the side.

[violet timber]

53TP rolls up with 8 whole degrees of gun depression

[dense wave]

Just got this in the surprise crate lol, what do u think about it?

[boreal spruce]

decent armour, if you angle it's good for sidescraping,
use the hulldown gun depp 🔨
the gun is decent, not the best of the tier8 heavy autoloaders but is good 🥖
mobile 🚤
heavy (good for ramming) 🪨
decent tank! 👍

[hollow notch]

Its functional, nothing amazing. The clip is crippling but downtime really hurts and the armor isn't all that reliable

You really have to keep teammates (meatshields) close after you dump the clip.

[dense wave]

Ive got a decent amount of bounces so far, thanks for the advise 😄

[hollow notch]

Yes, but the emil 1 is what its competition is, making the armor profile quite lacking

[dense wave]

Just got a 1v1 against a Emil I a few minutes ago, he pen me easiliy although i got 1 lucky bounce, but damn, i could pen him right in the front

[boreal spruce]

its a good tank, apart from the price i would get it.

[dense wave]

The only tier VIII i had before this one is the IS-3, and i dont dislike it, but i think the autoload is so funny to play with

[boreal spruce]

and its french too! 🥖 🇫🇷

[dense wave]

Yea 15K gold in the shop rn, and i got it for 500 xD

[boreal spruce]

yep, very expensive... i'll just wait for it! 👌

[dense wave]

🇫🇷 🥖 !!

[charred path]

what do you think of this model?

[plucky summit]

There's not enough space for crew

Or anything, really

[charred path]

even more, it will be a little tight

[plucky summit]

I need a scale to a person if this is gonna work lol

[charred path]

xd

I got an idea to make it from a Japanese or American model that I think

[boreal spruce]

looks like a ikv90 🇸🇪

[charred path]

true, xddd

[violet timber]

Depending on the size of that gun, it won't work

[charred vigil]

I'd say enough for a crew but not really a powerplant

[plucky summit]

Again, I'd need some sort of scale or comparison, because crew isn't the only internal part of the tank

Even assuming that's a 152mm gun, the frontal armor is easily consisting of 30% of the internal space

[charred vigil]

hows it going to get any gun depression over the side or rear

[plucky summit]

It's a tank destroyer I believe, turretless.

The gun won't even be over the side or rear

[charred vigil]

huh it looks like it has a turret

[plucky summit]

That's just a place for the gun to be mounted on

[boreal spruce]

similar?

[plucky summit]

Similar, but the armor is far too thick in Pedro's model to allow enough space inside the tank

But if Pedro meant effective armor ;)
It would simply be 52mm

[thorny smelt]

It reminds me of Strv 103B

[plucky summit]

Either way the frontal plate is just too thick

Strv 103B had like 60mm plates, and that was the frontal part which was thin already not to have crew there, and this is a crew of 3 we're talking about

[charred vigil]

ima draw a tank with the compartments layed out

[boreal spruce]

https://armor.wotinspector.com/?targetVehicleId=3969,6786,5251,8068&mode=xray.modules&platform=pc&compare=13905,29266,25171,13908
use Wot Inspector for some help if you need it mate!

[solid gate]

I got it the brother maus the mauschen

[boreal spruce]

leetle brudda, the Maushen 😎

[charred vigil]

I drew this random tank destroyer thing idk

[solid gate]

Very slow tho omg I need to upgrade this thing

[plucky summit]

Mauschen means "small Maus" lol

[boreal spruce]

oh wow! Great Job!, actually looks like a real tank!
add it to #blitz-art

[solid gate]

Nice drawing

[solid gate]

Which is why I'm calling it the brother maus lol

[plucky summit]

Looks like a mix between a Panther and Obj. 263

[solid gate]

Yes you can say that I do see the diffences

[plucky summit]

Honestly just 263 but integrated with Panther's turret

[solid gate]

But the maus is expensive so I'm alright with the brother for now lol

[boreal spruce]

it looks like the panther's Schmaltrurn turret fused to a strv 103

[solid gate]

Now question give me facts about the mauschen because ik a lot about the maus but not the little brother mauschen

[charred vigil]

I was just trying to do that mega slope, fit the crew inside and make it look different from like other wedge tanks

[boreal spruce]

it looks great i am deeply impressed by the detail mate!

[charred vigil]

thanks

[violet timber]

Does it have a turret or nah?

[plucky summit]

I'd be sure it doesn't

[violet timber]

I don’t think it does either

[analog silo]

It looks much like an IKV 90 typ B

Big difference being the rear engine compartment

[steep canyon]

WG should add Swedish TD line

Such as Strv 103 B and Strv 103-0 these tabk should be existed in the game

[charred vigil]

I added stats and I think I made it trash

[plucky summit]

Looks to be a more strongarm Obj. 263, the upper plate is immune to all shells in the game unless GD can be used against it

[violet timber]

It seems rather op to me

[plucky summit]

I think so too, since it actually has GD

[charred vigil]

the forehead of the casemate is weak, the lower plate is weak and I gave it 40mm side armor therefore can be overmatched by all 120mm guns

[plucky summit]

Only real issue is the DPM, but this thing can easily hold the line against non-heavies or inaccurate/unreliable heavy guns

[boreal spruce]

looks great still! now i can visualize the tank,👍

[delicate zinc]

is the krupp 38 any good?

[boreal spruce]

it has a bit more armour than the average tier 5,
and it is cute
but not worth 2K gold

[delicate zinc]

ok

[boreal spruce]

Black friday is 2 weeks away, a tier 6 tank at the sales is 1.5k gold (type 64) wait until then! 😊

[delicate zinc]

ok

it just looked kinda nice so i was thinking about it

[scarlet kernel]

Someone should try to make that in sprocket to see how it perform

[violet timber]

I could do it

Or at least try

I may need some basic dimensions though

[charred vigil]

measure it with bodies

[plucky summit]

They literally need any form of measurement, how big are the bodies in comparison? How tall is the body then?

[charred vigil]

the average man

[plucky summit]

Yes but how big is he in comparison to the tank?

[charred vigil]

Im sure he can just eye it

[plucky summit]

Ok lemme do some cheap measurements

[violet timber]

I can do my best, but right now I have it as 7 meters long and 2.25 meters wide

[boreal spruce]

average man height is about 175cm

[plucky summit]

Okay my cheap measurements have failed
1.6m tall

[boreal spruce]

i make it 8.5m long,
3.4m tall
3.6 m wide

[violet timber]

So the 73 degree upper plate it 100% a lot more than 73 degrees

[plucky summit]

My calculations assume it's 81.4 degrees

[violet timber]

I can get it to about 77 degrees and make it look not bad

[charred vigil]

I was just eyeing it and for my eyes it looked like 73 degrees

[plucky summit]

For my concept sheets I measure with a protractor

[violet timber]

Lower plate is 145mm at 10 degrees, upper plate is now 150 at about 77 degrees giving about 650mm effective

[violet timber]

Any specific angle you want for the gun housing (I forget the exact name)?

[charred vigil]

I dont have a protractor and Im using ms paint

[boreal spruce]

mantlet?

[violet timber]

Case mate, that's what it is

[boreal spruce]

ah yes 👍

[violet timber]

I have it at 40 degrees right now which is about what it looks like to me in the image

[charred vigil]

40 degrees mmm now the armor is starting to look more op

[neat nimbus]

Guess I will buy a legendary camo

For black friday

[violet timber]

@charred vigil Here's the best I can do in Sprocket, hope you like it. I have two more screenshots coming

I also slightly stylized it with a machine gun, spare tracks, and other odds and ends

[charred vigil]

looks good

[charred vigil]

its lower to ground but nice job its very accurate,

I might buy sprocket

[violet timber]

Fixed the height problem, and you should get Sprocket, it's rather fun

[charred vigil]

how does the tank perform

[violet timber]

Rather close to how it does on the stats sheet. It's traverseis slightly slower, about 13 seconds for a full 360 comapred to 11.25, but that's probably due to gearbox ratios which I haven't been able to figure out. The gun really shouldn't be talked about because of Sprocket's be all end all gun statistics, but it does at least have 5 degrees of gun depression.

It can get up to 55.5 kph top speed, but it is only 48 tons in Sprocket, so the p/w is slightly more

The casemate also only has 200mm which is the max in Sprocket, but it's still rather impenetrable aside from the upper casemate weakspot and the commander cupola

[charred vigil]

oh wow I just created the stats from looking at the stats of similar t10 tds in blitz and i see

[violet timber]

It happens to be rather similar in Sprocket's engine lol

[charred vigil]

I was thinking of 55kmh top speed but I thought that would be too fast

[violet timber]

That 55 is maxing the engine out, you wouldn't actually want to be running the engine at full blast all the time so

[charred vigil]

give it a good p/w but low top speed with decent traverse.
Balans

[violet timber]

Only problem is the dreadful side armor lol. The engine deck may actually be troll as well, due to sheer angling

[scarlet kernel]

It kinda reminds me of the obj 268 v4

[charred vigil]

40mm side armor as intended, same as batchat very weak so any angle means pen

[violet timber]

It sort of is, but with a smaller gun and less side armor

[charred vigil]

I think It has really good weight distribution across the tank. very well done design by sheer accident

[scarlet kernel]

Now only one thing left to do...
Hide it before next halloween arrives

[charred vigil]

its more balanced than 268 v4.. oh no the 268 v4 is coming to blitz

[hot fulcrum]

Mad lads

[charred vigil]

yes that looks nice tho I prefer something like that without side skirts

[charred vigil]

oh wow thats nice! are you able to add the little platform thingies above the tracks idk like you see on the lowe

[muted frost]

nope thats literally a e100 hull

[charred vigil]

yeah no actually I like that it has no platforms. I really enjoy the design of the immortal in wot pc mirny-13

I like the e100 hull with no side skirts

[frosty horizon]

Quick question about the kran, do you get the 50% discount on a legendary skin for it or no?

[silent light]

Can you make T28 prot ?

But it is a improved version.

[hot fulcrum]

New tech tree lines made by me

Swiss line: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zNdRzcdrjw2V4SYzitdydIbVgF5reX4nYkx0yHugDL4/edit?usp=sharing

Spanish line: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n-Y_Ic3g9VRGOGRU5o8gY3wW6ukJLIdzLmptuaSvYkw/edit?usp=sharing

[thorny smelt]

Titan T24 57 is quite a naughty light tank when played right

[frail dagger]

i reckon a tiger III would be cool, at teir 9, like the e 75, but with a cupola thats larger, but more armoured, and has a slower reload speed for slightly higher pen/damage, and slightly better mobility, for worse armour

[hot fulcrum]

Clippers are always deadly

[hot fulcrum]

Tiger III never existed...

[frail dagger]

neither did the Jagpanzer e 100
yet here we are

[hot fulcrum]

Will need a 3d model for the tiger 3 as you said

[frail dagger]

basically the pz above ^

[lyric copper]

the Spanish line is the worst idea

so is any tank line with an improper tank building history, let alone a country with none

looking at you, eastern europe

[hot fulcrum]

I guess so? What do you think of the Swiss line?

[lyric copper]

similar thoughts there

at least the 58 and 61 are real

[hot fulcrum]

wdym? all of them are real

6 of them are Swiss indigenous I think so

[lyric copper]

real Swiss tanks

not ones from other countries

also

M60A3?

Like the M60 that succeeded the M46 and M48?

[hot fulcrum]

Let's talk about Chinese tanks, shall we?

[lyric copper]

only ones that hurt are the TDs

[hot fulcrum]

I was talking about "indigenous tanks" Like the WZ tanks, I could agree, but most of the Chinese tanks are Soviet/American

[lyric copper]

The T-34 was built under licence, and in China, becoming the Type-34

Unlike an imported AMX 13 in the Swiss army

[hot fulcrum]

VAE Type B - British
LT wz. 38 - Czech (later Soviet)
Chi-Ha - Japanese
M5A1 Stuart - American
Type T34 - Licensed, Soviet
Type 58 - Soviet rebuilt
T34-1 - Chinese/Soviet Hybrid
T34-2 - Chinese/Soviet Hybrid
WZ 120 - Chinese/Soviet Hybrid
IS2 - Soviet
WZ 110 - Soviet design
and many more that I didn't include.

[scarlet kernel]

I still propose the idea of changing the EU nation into UN or global so we can put more tanks from other countries into it

[steep canyon]

Or maybe they better add Pan-Asia tech tree so they can fit tanks from asian nations

[solid gate]

t26e4 vs t26e5?

and is the t26e4 classified as a medium? it has a extra armor plate on the front hull

[steep canyon]

Both are almost same

And idk which make is the difference but ik one thing : the T26E4 has extra armor plate

[steep canyon]

I can add one : WZ 121 - Chinese / Soviet captured copy

[manic carbon]

@solid gate T26E4 is a mediocre tank at best. The T26E5 is better in almost every aspect.
T26E4 is classified as a medium in game, but it’s one that tries to act like a heavy and doesn’t do a good job at it

[steep canyon]

Of T-62A from zhenbao island incident with a bigger gun and more alpha dmg

[hot fulcrum]

Sounds interesting, I will work on it and report

[broken turtle]

german t25 too
skoda made it for the german
and in-game we have the skoda t25 huh

[solid gate]

irl the super pershing should be a medium/heavy. i think it needs a hp buff

it was a medium/heavy

[broken turtle]

irl super pershing is heavy
in ww2 normal pershing is heavy
after ww2 us reclassified it as medium

[solid gate]

yeah but still. the super pershing has a extra armor plate but its a medium but the t26e5 is a heavy without the plate?

[broken turtle]

wg classification lol idk
pershing was made to be a heavy
but when pershing faced off tiger 2 the us realized it wasn't heavy armored enough
so they made some more heavier version like t29, t30, t32, ....

[solid gate]

but they put a extra armor plate on the super persing. i heard 1 crew of the t26e4 put frontal armor of a panther on the hull and some armor around the turret

this one.

[steep canyon]

Good

[onyx sluice]

Is the Sheriff in Blitz the same tank as the Patriot in PC?

[rigid thunder]

yes, they're both the T26E5

[past fractal]

T26E4 should get a buff to its lower plate

Like on pc

[hot fulcrum]

(East)Asian tech tree: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hsej1tVDPyKR0JA0Cjt-GHmCoDUmqERXty4XTzHEj6M/edit?usp=sharing
Includes countries:
Indonesia
Malaysia
South Korea
Vietnam
Thailand
Philippines

[manic carbon]

T26E4 lower plate buff is kind of meaningless considering everything can shoot into the top of the turret.

[thorny smelt]

FV101 is a UK light tank

[hot fulcrum]

Indonesia/Philippines imported it

[thorny smelt]

Also, the Type 62 is a Chinese tank. Do you have a reference of the Type-62?

[hot fulcrum]

Vietnam currently operates 200 Type 62 tanks

[blissful hamlet]

It weighs approximately 50 tonnes, but like the FCM 50 t which weighs 54 tonnes, it is classified as a medium tank.

[blissful hamlet]

AMX 13 105 as t8? T-90S as t10???
Something is wrong

[hot fulcrum]

AMX 13 105 has 105mm gun, good for tier 8, and could serve as an alternative to AMX 13 90.

I don't see the problem in T90S being Tier 10, what's your point?

[onyx sluice]

T90? The Russian MBT T90?

[drifting grove]

T90S?
A third-generation MBT?
You're joking, right?
That's on par with the Challenger I and M1 Abrams MBTs.

[rigid thunder]

yeah let's just pit a T-90S against something like an E100. Fair and balanced imo

[drifting grove]

In comparision, the most advanced tanks in the game at the moment are Second-Generation MBTs, like the Chieftain Mk.6, M60 and Leopard 1.

[rigid thunder]

and wotb* has no smoothbore guns

[hot fulcrum]

t80? how about that?

okay, forget about t90s, does the t84 fit?

[blissful hamlet]

Not even the T-64 fits the blitz

[rigid thunder]

just ask yourself the simple question: does it have a smoothbore gun? If yes, then it won't fit this game

[hot fulcrum]

PT-91M (Malaysian version) does not have a smoothbore and could be considered a third gen since it is just a t72

[onyx sluice]

If a tank has:

1. Smooth bore gun.
2. Composite armor.

Its not a good fit. They will dominate everything and be a nightmare to balance.

[mystic bobcat]

To be fair, this one isn't a T26E4. E4 has new gun, with springs underneath the turret. In-game model is a T26E1-1, only one that was sent to Europe for testing. It got those plates added to increase survivability, since nobody wanted to loose only test vehicle with a gun that could knock out King Tiger trough a frontal plate.

[hot fulcrum]

Will take that into consideration

[rigid thunder]

The PT-91 is an upgrade of the T-72M1, which does not include the changing of its gun (it still uses the 125mm 2A46 smoothbore gun), and the Malaysian version that was imported from Poland is no different.

[solid gate]

i googled t26e4 and got this:

[mystic bobcat]

Well, T26E4 and T26E1-1 have the almost identical gun, but this exact picture is of only Super Pershing that was sent to Europe, and it was T26E1-1 which can be identified by those 2 large springs in a housings on top of the turret

[solid gate]

the super pershing has the same springs on the turret

here.

[mystic bobcat]

You can check Wiki

[solid gate]

dude google says t26e1-1 is a super pershing but also the t26e4

[mystic bobcat]

cuz they have long 90

[solid gate]

both are called super pershing. and which wiki do i need to search?

[mystic bobcat]

both of them, but E4 has upgraded long 90, with internal balancing springs, and that addon armor was only on one single tank in the entire world

[mystic bobcat]

you can just look Wikipedia for that

[solid gate]

the gun in game is a 90mm

oh wait i remember a video about someone who told us that the one t26e4 got addon armor and got the springs on top so it could handle the armor or something

[mystic bobcat]

Also, Cone of Arc made a video about Super Pershing iirc

[solid gate]

no i remembe now. there was 1 crew of a super pershing who gave it add on panther armor and the springs on top to match the king tiger

[mystic bobcat]

Well, can't say that it is correct, cuz those spring were added to balance out the gun itself, and they were added on the factory, not on the field

[solid gate]

yes but i remember a story about that.

[rigid thunder]

the springs were added to the first 2 prototypes of the T26E4, since there wasn't enough room to fit the additional stabiliser inside the turret

[mystic bobcat]

So, to make this straight - first prototype was converted form T26E1 and was designated T26E1-1, it had external springs, and it was sent to Europe when it got addon armor. Production vehicles were designated T26E4 and had internal springs.

[rigid thunder]

the additional armour plates found on the T26E1 were added by the 3rd AD, with the counterweight at the back of the turret being added after the tank was sent back to the states

and yes that's basically it

[mystic bobcat]

So, in-game model is E1-1 basically

But the lineup of production vehicles is T26E4 (tho there was only 27 of them built)

[violet timber]

Sorry, I was tired and went to sleep. I can make an improved T28 proto

[violet timber]

The covering of the mantlet is made of Panther upper plate. The little wings on the turret are boiler plate. The hull has 4 extra plates, 2 covering the lower plate and two covering the upper plate. The hull plates are made of boiler plate as well

To add my weight to the Super Pershing debate, there’s one main difference between the T26E1-1 and T26E4. The gun. The E1-1 uses one-piece ammunition while the E4 uses 2 piece. The E1-1 uses the T15E1 90mm while every other Super Pershing uses the T15E2 90mm. The one in game uses the T15E1 so we technically have the T26E1-1, but there’s not a lot of difference between the two Super Pershing models

[silent light]

I think you could improve its engine power and make its track wider

<@&481447501690568709> !!!

[calm drum]

MR_RNG#9759 was banned

MR_RNG#9759 was banned

[solid gate]

Kek

[silent light]

Yay

[forest ermine]

😂😂

[silent light]

This is the first time i ping mod

[solid gate]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-roundhouse-kick-strike-focused-double-kick-gif-14457233

Double strike!

[violet timber]

I may change up the hull a bit, but it will look like a T28 proto as best I can make it

[solid gate]

is the caenarvon action X even a real tank? or its just exist in blue prints

[silent light]

Non-exist tank

What ?

[ancient turret]

Amx sucks smh

[solid gate]

wait WHAT!? not even in blueprints!!?? 😥

[ancient turret]

Amx ac mle in particular needs a buff tbh literally sucks so much

[silent light]

It is a non-exist tank

[ancient turret]

Like honestly thing has zero armor what so ever it’s gun sucks and tbh it’s just horrible tbh really needs a buff

[silent light]

Gun buff and mobility will be helpfull

[ancient turret]

Very much

[solid gate]

why did you ban rng? now how can i farm dmg

[silent light]

Want to be scammed ? @solid gate

[solid gate]

don't you get it , was a joke tho

[solid gate]

WHAT 😕 so ... not even in blueprints then how did they know about the caenarvon action X??

[silent light]

Smasher, Anni ?

[solid gate]

noo the action X

[silent light]

Bruh @solid gate

[violet timber]

The Action X project was a British project to create turrets that didn’t have a gun mantlet

[silent light]

Oh it is in blue print

[solid gate]

ohh i see wait no manlet bruh how that gonna protect the tank if no manlet😥 ??
so its exsist only in blueprints??

[thorny smelt]

Q_Q

The Caernarvon Action X never existed in blueprints, plans, papers or minutes and remains a purely fictional vehicle..

[violet timber]

The Caernavern Action X never existed, but the Action X project was a real thing

The British experimented with a mantlet-less turret on the Centurion, creating the Centurion Action X

[lyric oriole]

Wait until the tier 8 where all your stats are atrociously worse than the tier 7

[violet timber]

The 4202 and Chieftain tanks also don’t have mantlets

[calm drum]

LucasCrazy#0150 has been warned.

[ancient turret]

Dam might just skip the tier 8 then lmao grind free xp and skip to Foch

[silent light]

What the ?

[lyric oriole]

@silent light don't use spoilers here please

[silent light]

Ok ? I thought it was harmless

[lyric oriole]

It's in #rules

[lyric oriole]

The DPM, camo rating, and armor hurt it a lot, to add insult to injury the accuracy is abysmal and you won't hit anything if you fire while moving

[silent light]

Sorry

[ancient turret]

Dam

[lyric oriole]

It's no biggie, warns don't do much

[lyric oriole]

But yeah

[ancient turret]

Oh my god I’m dead

[plucky summit]

I think the front should just be very hard to penetrate, with only the cupolas as weakspots if the gun is gonna be that bad

[violet timber]

Just making sure, you want the T28 Proto, not the T28, right?

[silent light]

T28 prototype

[violet timber]

Aight, just making sure

[lyric oriole]

They just made all the French TDs pathetically bad

Foch (the tier 9) is the only OK one

And it's not even that niche

[plucky summit]

Foch 155 loses to Obj. 268
Foch loses to Jagdtiger
AMX 48 loses to WZ-120-1G FT
AMX 46 loses to JPanther
ARL V39 loses to literally any turreted tank
S35 CA is actually special

[silent light]

Sad

[lyric oriole]

I'd be willing to say Foch loses to SU-122-54

[silent light]

Atleast bathtub of doom is special

[lyric oriole]

And Foch 155 is losing to Grille 15

[plucky summit]

Well, I enjoy my bathtub
Super utility-based and trade-based

[lyric oriole]

As for tier 8 if we are going off of non-premiums it loses to JP2

Bathtub loses to Angry Connor

[plucky summit]

Alpha, gun rotation, not having to go backwards =)

[silent light]

Sad

[plucky summit]

Come on, this is a big part of why S35 CA is good

[silent light]

Why... i have grinded it for 3 years because it is my favorite tank

[lyric oriole]

That just means easier retreats and firing at the enemy

[plucky summit]

It can do the funny!

[lyric oriole]

[silent light]

And it is the worst td

[lyric oriole]

Also behold

[plucky summit]

It still has alpha and the gun utility, it's perfect for sniping or secondline support

[lyric oriole]

Why use the 90 over the 17pdr

[plucky summit]

Alpha is good

[lyric oriole]

Oh wait

They nerfed the 17

[plucky summit]

Don't rip the only advantage over stug and AngCn

[lyric oriole]

I forgot how badly they nerfed it

[silent light]

Welp, i have grinded the foch 155 line for 3 years because it is my favorite tank. Now it is a trash

[lyric oriole]

I loved the single shot full Alpha Foch 155

Basically somebody at wargaming got salty in heavy tanks

Killed Foch 155 with nerfs

And then buffed heavies to a massive degree

[silent light]

560 alpha ?

[lyric oriole]

It had 640/545/960 long ago

[silent light]

Or we can have a tier 9 foch gun but it is autoloader with 4 shells in 1 clip

[lyric oriole]

I think the best way to help this Line is this:

Give AC 46 an autoloading gun for the 90mm it carries

[silent light]

Alpha is 400

[lyric oriole]

AC 48 autoloading for the 100mm

And Foch Autoloading for the 120

Those 3 are supposed to be autoloaders

[plucky summit]

Ok cuties I will be typing slower, on my phone so my mac can watch da stream

[silent light]

@lyric oriole that is too broken

[lyric oriole]

How is that broken at all

[plucky summit]

How is it broken? They gave you a single stat of the gun lol

[lyric oriole]

The heavies literally have that

[silent light]

Show me

[plucky summit]

Maso, propose the other stats 😎
Yes, Maso, Mayo feels weird to say

Perhaps MNS 🤔

[silent light]

So is my foch 155 not worthy ?

[plucky summit]

It is not

[silent light]

Concerning about selling foch 155 and grind T110E4

[plucky summit]

E4 is pretty unspecial too

[lyric oriole]

E4 loses to E 100

You want a special TD go for grille 15

[plucky summit]

Yoo I didn't know any tab you see is an active tab

[lyric oriole]

It's that or 268

All the other ones suck except Ho-Ri which still has limited use

[plucky summit]

E3 is a special TD, but not too good
183 is also a special TD, but just plain bad
Extremely enjoyable though

[silent light]

What the hell is this ? All the line are not worthy except grille 15 ?

[blissful hamlet]

I have 4005, 183, grille and 268

[plucky summit]

Oh yeah, 4005 is special too, and niche, actually good

[lyric oriole]

4005 takes a skilled driver though

It's not forgiving at all

[blissful hamlet]

I'm not very good with 4005, but isn't a bad tank

[lyric oriole]

It's good in capable hands but I'll be darned if I ever say it's easy to use

[plucky summit]

Got a Kolobanovs, I think 1v4 maybe today in mle 54

Btw S35 CA is my highest ranked tank of all time, and yet it's only 50th

[silent light]

Welp guess my foch 155 is going to be sold

[blissful hamlet]

You can keep with you really want the 155

[lyric oriole]

Just keep it

The heavy meta will end eventually

[silent light]

Lol

[violet timber]

@silent light I present the T28E2 Super Prototype

[plucky summit]

Reminds me of Type 64 with a Chi-Ri
Gun looks special though

[violet timber]

It's the best I could do with Sprocket's limitations

I kept as best as I could to the original dimensions, but I improved the armor and the angles and gave it a stronger engine

Top speed is now 40kph with the engine at full tilt, but would probably be limited to 35

The engine I have on it currently is a 16 cylinder 2.25 liter one giving 750 hp, but I could bump it up to as much at 1,150 hp

[silent light]

Look nice

[violet timber]

1,150 hp engine can get it up to 50kph, which is actually ridiculous

[silent light]

@violet timber it look like a heavy than a td

Lower plate need to be very small

[violet timber]

The problem is that Sprocket doesn't let the lower plate be small and have the suspension look good

[silent light]

Oh ok

[silent light]

T28 prototype 2 heavy edition

[violet timber]

Lmao, kinda true

[silent light]

Next is T28 ( no turret type )

[violet timber]

I kept the gun as close as I could to the T53 120mm

[silent light]

Feel free to make, i can wait for weeks

[violet timber]

Aight, here we go

[violet timber]

I present the T28E3.

The armor is slightly less thick nominally, but angled so that the frontal armor is 400-600mm thick effectively, with the lower plate being about 230mm effective. The sides have been increased to 150mm nominally, which makes them much more effective than the 63mm it currently has.

The gun is now a 155mm anti-tank gun, because why not.

Also, new 800hp engine and weight of 66.4 tons gives it a 12hp/t p/w. It can get up to 40kph, but has an average speed of 28kph.

155mm of American bias

[solid gate]

Which heavy tank do you recommend for premium tier VIII?

[violet timber]

T54E2

[solid gate]

What's better. T7 car or light Vickers

[drifting grove]

Tbh, no one really cares about low tiers, but I'd say Light Vickers.

[charred vigil]

I'll wait for a steam sale before i buy sprocket

or wait i might buy it now, im not patient

[chrome cobalt]

hey yall, should I grind for the progetto 65 on my new alt? is it still at all relevant? if not what are some better mediums

[boreal spruce]

65 is IMO one of the most unique and best meds at tier 10
go for it!

[hard cedar]

Progetto is pretty bad get 62a Patton or something

[chrome cobalt]

thx, im half italian so i was considering getting it.

[hard cedar]

It's unique but pretty meh

[chrome cobalt]

im f2p so i dont wanna waste my time

[hard cedar]

If you're looking for a meta t10 med then stay away from prog

[chrome cobalt]

torn between kran, yoh, and prog... but also thinking about 50m or maybe t57 heavy but i have it on another account

[hard cedar]

Yoh is one of the best t10 heavies rn

[chrome cobalt]

rly? it sure is annoying to come up against

[hard cedar]

it is

[chrome cobalt]

already have the t1 heavy currently thats why i was thinking about doing that line

[hard cedar]

Just do it if you're looking for meta tanks.

[chrome cobalt]

k. i kinda am. the ONLY reason i wanted prog is cuz im half italian (and never tried an autoreloader before)

[hard cedar]

It's unique but just get it later if you're going for meta tanks rn

[chrome cobalt]

kk what about meds

[boreal spruce]

E50 m is good if you have an aggressive playstyle
otherwise, M48 or T62, are goo tanks RN

[chrome cobalt]

im honestly a little too agressive for my own good. im not patient

[boreal spruce]

then the e50m,

[chrome cobalt]

hmm well i have it on a diff account already, same with 62a... but im rerolling so ig it wouldnt hurt to grind it again.

[boreal spruce]

if you already have it you might as well get something different. the M48 is a good tank,

[chrome cobalt]

k ill do yoh and m48 first. thx for the help

[boreal spruce]

good luck!👍

[plucky summit]

Yoh isn't a patience tank but oh well

[charred vigil]

Get The Obj 140, well if you dont have it already

[hard cedar]

140 isn't meta

[violet timber]

140 kinda bad

[hard cedar]

Skill issue.

[violet timber]

I can just take out a T-62A, or better yet, a T-22 and do better

[analog silo]

I’d say reroll into WZ-121, way easier to stat pad that line than t54 line

[hollow moth]

Did you know?

Sentinel on it's trials has 2 25 pounders guns, but those weren't meant to be used on combat.
It was just intended to show that the Sentinel was totally capable of using the 17 pounder gun and deal with it's recoil.

Source: Tank Archives

[solid gate]

That just screams Australian. "Oh you think we can't handle a 17 pounder... HOW ABOUT TWO 25 POUNDERS!"

[charred vigil]

yes but you can be aggressive in 140 and they said they liked being aggressive

[hollow moth]

Everytime you see an AC 4 Sentinel on Blitz, remember, at some point it had two 87mm guns

[thorny smelt]

Go salvo

[steep canyon]

Lol

[red obsidian]

Skip the T20 and Pershing if you can they’re garbage

[violet timber]

T20 yes, Pershing isn't that bad and is getting a huge buff next update

[red obsidian]

Thank the lord

I’ll guess I’ll play T29 till new update drops

[hollow moth]

Pershing meta I see?

[violet timber]

Probably honestly, I could see it as a dpm med in tier 8 comp

[hard cedar]

t8 comp wheeze

[hollow moth]

And the sun in is finally rising for the american meds

[violet timber]

I jsut had a Foch give up in my last game, free 1k damage

[silent light]

My Batchat lost 3 times in a row

[violet timber]

That's a yikes

[thorny smelt]

Switch to a different tank dude

[silent light]

Maltida BP

I know it is the worse tank but how do i have high winrates in it.

[violet timber]

Best practice for me is to switch after every loss unless I get a high damage game. If I lose, I'm probably not performing well in the tank at the moment, so I find another tank I wanna play and use that

[silent light]

Welp, T28 Prototype will evolve into T30

[violet timber]

T28 Proto is the worst tank tier for tier in the game imo

[silent light]

115 K exp now, 30K exp more

[scarlet kernel]

buff both t28 hp

[violet timber]

I still don't have the fortitude to grind out the T28 Proto, and I like to fancy myself as a rather good player

[silent light]

51% winrates

I sometimes camp or second line

[silent light]

I dislike USSR heavy ( except KV-3, Kv-4 and IS )

[violet timber]

I love USSR heavies

[silent light]

Lol

[violet timber]

They’re so good without having to sweat for 3k damage

[scarlet kernel]

which heavy tho?
the KV series or the IS

[violet timber]

IS series is better currently

[chrome cobalt]

cant. im f2p

[analog silo]

T20 is ok if you play well, it moves and does damage. Pershing is also getting buffed soon iirc

[ancient iron]

how is the Super Conqueror?

[hollow notch]

It's a solid heavy. It's what happens when you give a raw dpm gun to a kran instead of an autoreloader

[silent light]

I researched the T30

Now i only need money to buy it

[shell robin]

I wonder if I say the tank's name, people will be offended.

[silent light]

Tell me

[analog silo]

I too wish to know of this supposed offensive tank

[shell robin]

Type 5 Heavy, aka O-Ro Kai aka godzilla, aka yhorm the giant from dark souls III

[violet timber]

This is actually a good description of the skonk lol

[analog silo]

I’m only (and greatly) offended at your excessive use of “aka”

[ancient iron]

so overall.... Skonk is not a bad pull from the mystery boxes right?

[shell robin]

well, the official name is just type 5 heavy, but it really is all those things

[hollow notch]

It's one if the best ones there are to pull lol

[analog silo]

If you’re asking if you should sell it to pull more crates, the answer is no.

[hard cedar]

me who got m41d and churchill 3 from mystery boxes

[ancient iron]

love my strange luck then.... so... for reference... I had 2k gold, bought the one time 5 crates... the LAST one gave me 3k gold..... AND then... bought 9 crates, got 1 mystery tonk cert... and got the skonk from it

[shell robin]

what's a mystery box (ik what it is, I just never had one)

[analog silo]

I know it as “muppet” “Japanese stupid heavy” “broken” “pay to damage” and a few other choice words because I played PC

[hard cedar]

what's a mystery box
ik what it is,
🤔

[hollow notch]

I do love that you use the proper name for it.

[shell robin]

"pay to damage". that's how I describe a few other tanks

[analog silo]

Blitz is very different than PC in the prammo department and I pray that never changes. The type 5 simply did more damage by pressing 2. Not to be confused with HESH, which has greatly reduced pen in exchange for that damage.

[calm terrace]

Equipment load out for the 60TP? Not sure whether to run double repair or adrenaline

[shell robin]

the 15 cm has ap now too.

[analog silo]

I run repair tungsten repair and I feel very comfortable with it. 68% winrate and 2900 damage.

[shell robin]

my loadout is usually multi kit, repair kit, and automatic fire extinguisher. if it needs the reload that bad, i replace the repair kit with adrenaline

[hollow notch]

Ew fire extinguisher

[calm terrace]

Thanks! It’s my first tier x. I’m doing ok in it but I want to see how good I can get

[hard cedar]

dont run fire extinguisher.

[analog silo]

It is a super chill tank. Just trade and protect lower plate. And don’t run fire extinguisher. But do train repair and extinguish crew skills.

[hollow notch]

Yup, it's a wall that refuses to die.

[shell robin]

why not?

[hollow notch]

Waste of a slot, adrenaline or a super consumable are a way better use of it

[hard cedar]

^

[shell robin]

i don't usually run tanks with a slow reload or have access to a super consumable

[hollow notch]

The nerf was basically nothing
Hp pool nerf-> still has the highest hp pool
Accuracy nerf-> it's a frontline heavy

[hollow notch]

High rof tanks have all the more reason to use adrenaline. Maximizing your shell output on shell spammers is a necessity.
Just train your finger to autotap the multi repair kit when you get set on fire

[analog silo]

Adrenaline is for all tanks. Not just slow reloads. It’s the second most useful standard consumable and I use it multiple times every match. By comparison the automatic fire extinguisher is only useful in 1/20 battles and that 1/20 chance is better served by a fast repair.

[shell robin]

how can I extinguish a flame on something that doesn't catch fire easily? How do I autotap on a pc?

@analog silo what's the first most useful?

[analog silo]

The most useful consumable is the repair everything kit, which includes fires and the engine/fuel tank damage you took to start the fire.

Part of the trick is not using it for tracks. Usually by taking a second repair or by using the repair skill + fast repair equipment to not need it

Maus is meta, it’s been used in this blitz cup by winning teams

[hollow notch]

Maus isn't a damage dealer, but it has the survivability to brute force win fights

[shell robin]

kinda like a tog with armor

[analog silo]

That’s fine. Simply rejoice that maus is meta

[ancient iron]

any tips for the Rhm Skorpion

[silent light]

Can i camp in T30 ?

[shell robin]

i would imagine you'd play it like a T29

[silent light]

Why ? I can play it in second line in tier 8 match but not tier 9 and 10

[shell robin]

becaue the T30 is basically a T29 with a 155mm, last time I checked.

[analog silo]

Always have hard cover to hide behind. Wait a second after reloading to go unspotted. Peek a boom in 2 seconds with your great gun handling. Make sure nobody is camping your cover. Repeat.

[steep canyon]

If ur spotted on Rhm skorp u done enemy team will tunelled u

[analog silo]

Which is fine if you have a good, large rock like I suggested. And are not over extended. Your may even bait people into rushing you and dying to your team.

[shell pebble]

Guys, what you think about WG making new USSR LT line?

[silent pivot]

Idk WG should add the hetzer with its 105mm gun as a collectable tank

[shell pebble]

You mean like Maresal tank?

[silent pivot]

I don't know what is that

[shell pebble]

This tank
Bigger version of Hetzer

[silent pivot]

Hetzer had a 105mm gun before 5.5update
In 7 years event(idk i forgot the name) they relised pazer iv gargoyle
Which is pz iv g before 5.5update

Idk its a good thing to add hetzer with the 105mm gun like pz iv gargoyle as an event rewards

[shell pebble]

Well, maybe in future, WG going to add that Hetzer, maybe like Nightmare tank but in lower tier, can one-shot any tier 3

[silent pivot]

I want to see the old tutel i never
Experienced it

[thorny smelt]

WOT PC still retains the 105 mm gun on Hetzer and Pz. IV H (Gargoyle in Blitz)

[silent pivot]

But the gargoyle is areally funny tank to play
And rip glass canon td like alecto
Su 85b

The top pray for gargoyle

[copper swan]

prey

[thorny smelt]

Well it is just a Pz. IV H with a 105 mm gun

[silent pivot]

Okok

[shell pebble]

When use higher tier gun in lower tier tank moment

[silent pivot]

Victims become memes

RIP victims of thoses moments

[shell pebble]

@silent pivot
Hard to admit but the most scary moment is where a E25 suddenly jump out of nowhere

Like it real nickname in irl

[hot fulcrum]

Is Chieftain a third generation mbt?

[silent pivot]

I have a idea

WG should add kv 1 as the new titan series tank

[thorny smelt]

Titan event is already over

[silent pivot]

Maybe

[rigid thunder]

second

[silent pivot]

But it would be a good idea to relise a tire 6 titan series tank
They relised tire 5 and 7

[thorny smelt]

Tier 5: Titan Mk. 1
Tier 6: Titan Flare (Titan T24 57) <---- premium Battle Pass tank
Tier 7: Titan H-N

[silent pivot]

Oof

[ebon lantern]

hi

[chrome cobalt]

ima kms

[silent pivot]

I forgot
But hold on wait a minute
No Tank destroyers and middiums

[thorny smelt]

Yes

[silent pivot]

They need to add titan series middium and TDs

[mystic bobcat]

60TP defender when?

[wet prism]

Its already confirmed my dude

[drifting grove]

2nd Gen.
Challenger I is 3rd gen.

[silent pivot]

No 60tp defender
Vk 100 defender needed

[mystic bobcat]

Maus defender

[silent pivot]

Yes yes yes

IS 4 defender
FV 215b defender
Grill 15 defender
T 62A defender
Panther 1 defender

So many defender
World of defenders

I should stop
This will not come

[mystic bobcat]

Too late, it was written

[onyx sluice]

Give 183 defender.

[steep canyon]

Give Ru 251 defender

To replace that powercrept AMX Defender

[blissful hamlet]

Titan Mk. II when?

[past fractal]

T110E5 defender when ^-^

[steep canyon]

Too cancerous

[frail dagger]

i want to see a vk100.01 as a defender, like have an event like mirny-13, and market it as from after the nuclear war (what caused wasteland, same nukes at faust..) and have it wreck the cyver legion

[solid gate]

kv2 defender. 2 shot gun with a reload of 16 seconds

[onyx sluice]

I appreciate WG buffing the accuracy of the VK100 and VK168, but that isn't going to help much.

The real issue is the 15.6 second reload, a DPM buff will be better. A 14.2 second reload is quite reasonable IMO.

[scarlet kernel]

I think the reload is fine, those two tanks are just moving bunkers you don't need to buff the gun too much

[onyx sluice]

Smasher has better reload and it is a tier lower and has 640 alpha. A second off it isn't going to break the game and make the superheavies OP.

Both the tanks already suffer from bad mobility and large weak spots.

[violet timber]

Smasher also doesn’t have a ton of armor

[strange thicket]

that is why you don't stay out in the open?
the whole point of them is to soak damage and trade

[scarlet kernel]

And? Im saying the main point of those two tanks are to bounce or absorb more shell than other tanks if you are playing those tank, your main focus is not dmg, but to be the one getting shot at

I swear to god if you ever bring out the "bUt PPl CaN jUSt LoaD GoLd"

[drifting grove]

bUt pEoPlE cAn jUsT lOaD gOlD!

[drifting grove]

Smasher is supposed to be a Tier VII KV-2.
VK100 and 168 are supposed to absorb shells.
There isn't really much of a comparison here.

[past fractal]

Except the tier 7 kv2 can actually bounce shots with its turret….

[blissful hamlet]

Imagine a literal bunker with tracks, are the Porsche tanks

[drifting grove]

AT-2, AT-8, AT-7 and AT-15: -_-

[analog silo]

You have plenty of DPM in a 100.01 if the reds only pen a third of their shells. Try face hugging a 252 and farming it’s cupolas some time. The secret ingredient is gunblocking to protect your cheeks.

[hard cedar]

VK has no dpm

[worn skiff]

What does the defender part mean? The normal tanks don’t have defender in the name. Is it a camo or are the stats actually different between the two?

[blissful hamlet]

You don't know the defender tanks?

[worn skiff]

No I started a month ago. I’ve seen the defender tanks but I don’t know how they’re different

I just figured it was a camo like the kv 1s Football

[blissful hamlet]

If you see the content of the Collect them all containers, you can see the defenders and compare with the normal ones

[silent light]

My BatChat lost a lots

I can not fight med and lt alone i am always killed by them

try to kill low health, run unsuccessfully

[worn skiff]

Oh wow so they actually do have different stats? I’m guessing they’re better and you need to spend money to get them? Also, are all tanks with a word not in the base tech tree tank name improved or are they just camos outside of defenders?

[silent light]

get slaped a lots, retreat but still lost

[blissful hamlet]

They have different stats, and yes, they are premium tanks, u need buy crates to get

[worn skiff]

Wow. That explains so many situations I’ve experienced so far

And thank you for explaining

[thick trout]

Generally the defenders are all normal tanks with mildly buffed tank stats and a clipper gun. I think I'd say all of them are better than their tech tree counterparts but I haven't played the AMX defender

[worn skiff]

That’s rough. I don’t spend any money and just grind tech trees so I’ll be at a disadvantage against any non tech tree tank in the same type and tier

[onyx sluice]

Defenders aren't OP.

The Defender Mark 1 is pretty strong when hulldown but thats it, the rest are pretty comparable to the tech tree tanks they are based on.

[hard cedar]

Not always, most premiums are on par with tech trees
obviously there are a few exceptions

[lyric copper]

you need to learn to read a situation better

[drifting grove]

Gold ammo through upper plate.
Same on the IS-7 and IS-4.
You may also try your luck with the cupolas.

[violet timber]

T28 defender is much better than its normal tech tree counter part. The Proto is the worst tank tier for tier in the game, the defender is actually quite good

[obsidian maple]

I want to see the m60 with pbr lol

[gentle roost]

What is better caernarvon action x or progetto 46?

[violet timber]

Prog

[gentle roost]

Ok

[worn skiff]

I was at around 44% win rate with the 53tp around 185 games with it (my first t8). I’ve gone up to around 51% with it. Should I keep using it a lot and not move up to t9 until I can hold higher than around 56% win rate in that tank or wait until the win rate is higher like 60%?

[dense wave]

E-100 or E-50M?

[solid gate]

Hellcat line or Jackson line

[warm karma]

Hellcat

[silent pivot]

E 100

E100 can distroy someone (lights,middiums,glass cannon ,TD and American heavies) with HE

[timber ibex]

Bois JagdPanther hot to grind more EXP?

[glad lark]

anyone have any tips on how to play the e100?

[onyx sluice]

Side scrape.

[sacred trail]

AMX I got from a Lucky 8 container (or that one container where you can get any tier 8 collector/premium guaranteed), and it’s basically a 13 75 with a better engine and a faster drummer gun with 4 rounds. Still lacks significant armor and is preferably a hit-and-run where you unload as much of your clip as possible before yeeting out

[ancient iron]

is it bad that I prefer the 100mm stock gun over the top gun for the IS?

[stuck needle]

In my opinion, no

[plucky summit]

I mean, be a worse T29, go ahead

[lyric oriole]

T29 is just busted so that not a fair comparison lol.

But you do get more DPM and flat Mobility over T29

[dense wave]

Ok ty 👍

[thorny smelt]

It is nice though that they buffed up the T32's top gun which is also T29's top gun on update 8.5

[gloomy rune]

We play wotb for the progress and fun (more for the progress) so just buy 50tp trydhdiskdjfidks

[alpine heart]

You guys, I'm gonna buy my first T7. I have currently researched a Tiger P and the M-7-Yoh. What do you guys recommend I should buy first??

[rigid thunder]

the M-VII-yoh leads to a bunch of excellent tanks, but it's pretty bad as a tank. If you're fine with that then I'd recommend it

[alpine heart]

Thanks o7

[rigid thunder]

6o

[drifting grove]

@alpine heart Fair warning:
Save up 60k FXP and get the 120mm gun on the M-V-Yoh ASAP because the stock gun has 1300 DPM and the top 105mm us rubbish.

[hard cedar]

*1.7k dpm

[dusty dawn]

Is there a good online review of the T6 Spark?

To answer my own Q, Amaunet85 has a good video review.

[quiet hazel]

Ayo guys does anyone know when is the VK 90 01 coming back for gold?

[thorny smelt]

Me too. My dream tank

[turbid thunder]

My wallet is ready

[turbid thunder]

Where did you get that screenshot ?

[thorny smelt]

My gold is ready LOL

[quiet hazel]

Google

[quiet hazel]

mine too xd

so no one knows? :C

[thorny smelt]

The price might be lower this time than the one you show.

[quiet hazel]

If it gets back on black friday it will, but idk, it is from the last time it was available

[thorny smelt]

Oh? I thought the highest tier is 8 on Black Friday.

[quiet hazel]

yeah but who knows, wargaming is very ramdon, in all cases, ill have my gold prepared

[thorny smelt]

Can't wait. I'll get the Caernarvon Action X or Progetto M35 mod 46 from Blitz Cup then get the VK 90.01 P or AMX M4 54 when they are in Store.

[quiet hazel]

You´re going to gamble for the M4 54?

[thorny smelt]

When it is sold in gold, not the trashy crates.

[quiet hazel]

That tank will never get sold on gold, it is too good and WG knows it

[thorny smelt]

Well...it is just a beefed up AMX M4 49. Nothing special.

[quiet hazel]

not really, but im not gonna enter in discussion

i just wish Vk comes soon

[thorny smelt]

Well hopefully it will sold in gold soon. I'm used to be a French main just because of Char BDR G1 B, ARL 44, and AMX M4 45. I'm chasing for VK 90.01 P because it has better, even the highest, standard AP pen for a heavy tank at 275 mm.

[quiet hazel]

cool. My problem is that if i not buy it soon, ill buy something else, and i cant afford that

cuz then i wont be able to buy it

[thorny smelt]

At least you can collect more gold. I'm waiting for it to come out in Stores. I wanted a tier 10 collector's vehicle so that I don't have the fear to use one in battles. A FV217 Badger is another addition for me.

[quiet hazel]

it´s not a bad tank, but it is ugly as hell

[thorny smelt]

But it is the proper successor from the Tortoise. The line itself is more of stone armor and DPM which FV215b 183 doesn't have one characterisitc

[quiet hazel]

how much i would like to have infinte gold :C

then i woulnt have to die inside cuz i cant buy the tanks or camos i love

[thorny smelt]

Hopefully I can buy one of them soon but mostly the VK 90.01 P

[quiet hazel]

can anyone just give me a 100 euro steam code? xdxd

[quiet hazel]

ill be waiting too

[cinder musk]

Had Badger sold it as it needed gold

[brave juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-money-broke-no-more-money-penniless-gif-5099720

[plucky summit]

Watch them nerf SU-101 in 8.6

[lyric copper]

watch them add Concept 1B and Obj.268 V4

[violet timber]

They’re both confirmed

[plucky summit]

Bro no way 😳

[violet timber]

Concept is already in testing and it seems rather strong

[lyric copper]

concept 1B will break the game no lie

almost invincible hulldown

tiny weakspots at the edge of the turret front that is only plausibly hit at close range, like the E3’s “weakspot”

[plucky summit]

Okay just make the gun bad and it’ll be fine

[lyric copper]

also can they nerf the E3 cupola

why on earth do the Jpz and HoRi need CS standard/ prammo to pen it

all tanks should be able to pen it with gold

[plucky summit]

HEAT has to deal with spaced armor

[lyric copper]

E3 is such a disgusting tank

you get the thickest frontal armour value in the game, a “weakspot” that isn’t a weakspot, an actual weakspot that is tiny, oh and a good gun, oh and super consumables

[violet timber]

It’s beautiful, except for the legendary camo

[plucky summit]

T95 has 305mm too, no?

[violet timber]

Yup, and thicker sides

[lyric copper]

anyone who plays the E3 literally has no skill

nerf the gun, nerf the cupola

then people will actually need skill to play it

other than “hAhA iM oN rIdgElInE yOu CaNt PeN mE nO0b”

like please just throw your phone out of the nearest 4th floor window

@plucky summit balanced by bad speed and the fact that the cupolas are actual weakspots

[plucky summit]

E3 is turretless too, which is a bit downside for a TD meant to frontline

Tell me why TDs are almost out of super comp :)

[lyric copper]

seen one team spam E3s in a tourn once

lost due to the fact the E3 gets almost everything, except a turret

give the E4 all of the E3 stats and it becomes the god of WoTB

it would end the heavy meta

[plucky summit]

E3 is OP, but I think the superconsumables is all it needs removed

[lyric copper]

yeah, nerf the cupola and gun too

[solid gate]

i saw a tier 8 polish heavy doing 1200 damage on a tank. not ammorack

[violet timber]

Then you saw wrong

[solid gate]

im not kidding

[plucky summit]

Replay please

[solid gate]

i dont have replays on. mabey somebody shot it too but i believe the polish tank was shooting alone

[plucky summit]

I’m sure either a fire ensued while other enemies shot them

One can’t do that by itself

[solid gate]

i was thinking about a other tank too but i believe me and him were alone there

[violet timber]

The only thing I can think of is an HE round max roll with fire, and even then I’m not sure that’d do it

[plucky summit]

What damage did 53TP end up with in the battle results?

[solid gate]

lemme see. starting up rn

2876

6 shots fired. 2 kills

[violet timber]

That’s in line for getting a few high rolls, maybe an HE here or there

[solid gate]

btw t54 stock is not that bad

[violet timber]

Debatable

[lyric copper]

what

175mm standard pen playing against tier Xs is near impossible

plus the fact you have to rely on prammo makes it horrible

[plucky summit]

IS-4 mains:

[solid gate]

Im now grinding for a new turret and i have the new tier 7 gun but yesterday it was decent enough. Speed was good, turret armor also good. I see no problem

[lyric copper]

gl trying to pen a slightly angled T-62A with 175mm of pen

[solid gate]

I have the turrer now. Im gonna research the gun and then straight for the t62a because the engine is fine

[violet timber]

IS-4 is actually really fun in the current meta, been having a blast bullying people with it

[hard cedar]

Ew.

[solid gate]

I prefer IS-7

[plucky summit]

I prefer AMX M4 mle 54

[violet timber]

IS-7 is better, but there’s something really fun about the IS-4 right now

[solid gate]

But honestly the most fun tier 10 i currently own is the chieftain mark 6

[violet timber]

Mk 6 is good, skonk is better

[plucky summit]

People hated my Sconq 😞

[violet timber]

Poor chicken man, play STA to assert dominance over them

[plucky summit]

I’ve only got up to Chi-To, a beautiful support medium, but that was to go Chi-To SPG then give up

I’ll stick to using my Löwe

[violet timber]

But STA-1 supremacy

[plucky summit]

There is a more suggestive version of that pfp btw 🤷‍♂️

[violet timber]

Oh I’ve saved it don’t worry

[plucky summit]

Unfortunate.

Very.
Unfortunate.

[violet timber]

Yes, yes I am

[high anvil]

Idk who tf was whining about the e3 but honestly that’s skill issue

[violet timber]

E3 is definitely too strong

[plucky summit]

Cut the superCs and it's fine

[wise moth]

<@&481447501690568709> can you guys ban cam bunicel#2217 for trolling the voice chat?

Came in here and nearly blew our ear drums out with really loud earrape. Everyone who was in here can attest

[high anvil]

It’s good hulldown sure, meanwhile there’s 4-5 heavies that are even better, just as fast, have 25% more HP and a full turret

[sly basin]

yep, E3 is perfectly balanced as it is, nerfing its cupola would destroy the purpose of that tank
It already has weak sides, poor accuracy, extremely poor traverse and awfully weak ammo rack

[high anvil]

Literally HE-able from the front too

[plucky summit]

The ammo rack is strong LOL

[forest ermine]

I'll do you one better, seeing as he left right after doing that

[violet timber]

It also has an insanely good gun, pretty much impenetrable frontal armor, and super consumables meaning it can’t be circled by anything slower than a light

[calm drum]

cam bunicel#2217 was banned

[sly basin]

nah whenever u get penned in the lower plate or through the tracks u get crit ammo rack, dosent get blown off tho in a single hit

[high anvil]

Gun is among the worst ones for tier 10 TDs

[plucky summit]

Ah, so like most of the other tanks?
Give me a tank with a strong ammo rack

[sly basin]

nope, many tanks have stronger racks, go check its durability in armour inspector

[plucky summit]

260 HP is good

[high anvil]

Most TDs have the same alpha with better accuracy or reload, plus if you’re running adrenaline on it you have to sacrifice a repair kit or speed boost

[violet timber]

You what?

[high anvil]

? literally proving my point

[violet timber]

It’s literally on par with other tier 10 tds mate

[high anvil]

More dispersion, less DPM. And you didn’t include others like the grille

[violet timber]

Not to mention it has stronger armor than all of the other tanks in the comparison, add super consumables and it gets broken

[plucky summit]

Honestly the ammo rack durability is par
Maybe don't let people fire at your lower plate =)

[sly basin]

yep, but u cant always do that, as its a turret less td

[violet timber]

Grille is a different type. I picked tanks that were close in play style and alpha. Also all for the differences are like .01 differences, literally negligible

[plucky summit]

Tell me what lacking a turret harms your ability to prevent ammo rack crits

[sly basin]

that u need to face multiple enemies go u cant turn ur tank as well as keep hull hidden to every one,

[plucky summit]

Facing multiple enemies means nothing if they still have shots 🤨

[violet timber]

The ammo racks are mostly in the hulls of tanks, meaning this applies to all tanks in the game

[sly basin]

not the durability

[plucky summit]

260 HP is pretty standard for a tier 10

[sly basin]

trust me I have the E3 and multiple games with it

[high anvil]

idk how you can whine about the e3 when stuff like the Yoh, 60tp, IS-7 exist which are all much better at hulldown AND can also brawl better

[plucky summit]

Using overpowered tanks to justify another is a logical fallacy

[high anvil]

And aren’t crippled in HP for being a TD and can more reliably frontline

[violet timber]

I have the E3 and multiple games as well.

@high anvil oh don’t worry, I whine about those as well. But just because those tanks exist doesn’t mean the E3 isn’t too strong

[high anvil]

lol how can you be “OP” when you’re middle of the pack with more broken stuff that does your job better

[violet timber]

It’s literally the best performing td, how is that “middle of the pack”?

[high anvil]

Because TDs are ass rn

[sly basin]

the point of E3 is to have that much armour with a big 155 mm gun, which other HTs can only dream of, E100 can have a 150, but dosent have the turret armour and gun depression and penetration

[plucky summit]

The average tier 10 TD ammorack durability is 250, E3 has 260

I have no information on Ho-Ri's

[plucky summit]

Don't buff the TDs, nerf the heavies. You're just ripping them from tier 9, making the stock grinds and even normal grinds that much worse

[violet timber]

And yet the E3 can manage over a 50% average wr, more than the wr of the average player 🤔

[plucky summit]

E3 has the gun and armor to make a bad player perform decently by itself, while a good player can abuse them

[high anvil]

The average player is a 14 y/o on an iPhone who does 1800 average in tier 10

[plucky summit]

And?

[sly basin]

1800 dmg is quite decent regarding the player base, especially for a 14yo

[violet timber]

I’d beg for my teammates to deal 1,800 damage

[plucky summit]

The average damage for E3 in the last 90 days is 2179 =)

[sly basin]

yup, its one of the strongest, literally bunker on tracks

[plucky summit]

Only bested by three other tier 10 TDs, The amazon box, the clip barn, and the pAP spammer

[high anvil]

And that’s…. impressive? lmao

[plucky summit]

Considering your "14 y/o on an iPhone who does 1800 average in tier 10", absolutely.

@sly basin WZ-113G FT

[sly basin]

wdym Amazon box?

[violet timber]

Mate, if you don’t think that’s impressive, I’m starting to think you don’t know much about stats.

@sly basin WZ

[sly basin]

oh ty

[high anvil]

Well no exactly, average damage across the whole (bad) playerbase shows it has a good skill floor

[plucky summit]

Previously referred "skill floor"

[high anvil]

That even your shitty teammates will get a shot or 2 in instead of getting 0 like they would in a grille or 4005

And bring down the average damage less

Doesn’t really tell you about how balanced or unbalanced it is for good players

[sly basin]

and mostly the average/below average players prefer to camp with E3 which makes it extremely hard to get penned ur self

[high anvil]

Which is a bad use of your e3 even if it brings up their average damage? Literally proving my point that the stat is meaningless to talk about its strengths

[sly basin]

yup

[violet timber]

Not really? Other tanks can camp, do the same thing, and bring up that tanks average damage

[plucky summit]

In a good meta, heavies wouldn't be so advantageous and E3 should be put back into its nest

Starting with the consumables

[high anvil]

Like, if you’re gonna bring a TD in battle, why are you taking a discount heavy who can’t compete with heavies or do their job properly

[plucky summit]

Except it does 😳

[sly basin]

the armour on E3 makes it so that u can sustain longer even if are on open or spotted, unlike other tds

[violet timber]

The E3 has 8 degrees of dun depression and the highest nominal armor in the game, bring it hull down and you have an impenetrable fortress with incredibly high pen

[plucky summit]

Action X with 401mm:

[sly basin]

thats its point

[violet timber]

Okay that plate doesn’t count it’s literally useless and just there to make you angry when you hit it

[high anvil]

lol sure e3 can go toe to toe with Yoh and 60TP 🤡 🤡 that’s why it’s all over blitz cup rn

[plucky summit]

Tortoise with 406mm:

[violet timber]

Just because it’s not in professional comp doesn’t mean it’s not an incredible pub stomper 🤡

[plucky summit]

Damn, I didn't know you would use OP heavies to justify your OP TD. Oh wait, you've been doing that

[high anvil]

Well, can it do a heavy’s job or not? The answer is just no, mostly because of HP diff

[sly basin]

E3 cant be used in comp, as:
It dosent have HP compared to HTs
It dosent have mobility
It dosent have a turret

[plucky summit]

"If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid"

[high anvil]

Except it’s frontline tanks in a hulldown meta, e3 and heavies have the same job

[plucky summit]

E3 mimics hulldown though

[sly basin]

HTs can only dream of that TD gun on frontline tho

[plucky summit]

Titan H-N: 405mm gun :3

[high anvil]

Depends? Most heavies have competitive guns. P sure yoh and 50b have better DPM though 50b is apple to oranges

[plucky summit]

375 APCR without CS funny

[sly basin]

YOH has decent armour and AMX will just get deleted in Hulldown

[high anvil]

You run cali on both those tanks because the other option is vents

Pen isn’t really a point of contention

[plucky summit]

Meh, jus said it's funny

[sly basin]

with 90 he and 960 he dmg

[plucky summit]

Anyways, E3 is overcooked, mainly through the superconsumables. IT shouldn't remain as it is if the only real competition is OP heavies

[violet timber]

Where are all of these plates coming from?

[plucky summit]

BH

[solid gate]

me a 14 y/o on a laptop: ;-;

[violet timber]

Who said the gun should be 400mm, that’s just ridiculous

[plucky summit]

Titanium 🤷‍♂️
Get it?

[sly basin]

the consumables are the things that ruin the balances, a perfect example would be the 60tp

[wintry orchid]

If you mean the stat that’s shown in garage the highest „nominal armour“ is on the m6 (350) isn’t it

[high anvil]

Ah yes FV215b the OP monster

[violet timber]

Technically yes, but that’s not really useful as it’s just at the very front of the turret

[plucky summit]

406mm, on the Tortoise, technically

[sly basin]

yep, Speed boost made it very strong, they should buff back the tank and remove consumables

[violet timber]

The highest useful nominal armor goes to the E3 and T95

[plucky summit]

Ok cutie

[wintry orchid]

Ah so the garage shows that? Interesting didn’t know

[plucky summit]

These values are from Blitzhangar (and I assume, armor inspector)

[wintry orchid]

Ok, because I haven’t seen anything higher than 350 ingame

[sly basin]

and btw ruin balance dosent mean making it op monster

[violet timber]

Tort does indeed have this 406mm plate

[plucky summit]

Yeah, I believe Mk. 6 does have the highest Blitz displayed armor value

[sly basin]

Sheridan`s butt is laughing at these armour plates

[wintry orchid]

Well yes but actually use ap

[plucky summit]

Doesn't count, that's just not hitting the main armor at all

[sly basin]

dont get jokes?

[violet timber]

Sheridan holds the award for the trolliest armor, literally bounced off the front of the Sheridan with AP in an IS-7, and I still have no idea how it happened

[plucky summit]

I can livestream it to you if you want a specific stance

[violet timber]

I managed to bounce off the green. I was so incredibly confused for a good 5 seconds

[plucky summit]

🤷‍♂️

[violet timber]

It was backing up at maybe a 20 degree angle and the shell bounced

[plucky summit]

I assume you lack the ability to view stuff like this, f2p inspector.

[violet timber]

I do, I am poor

[sly basin]

"trollest armour" should go to IS 7 sides

[plucky summit]

Cute

Unlike the actual main armor of the Sheridan

[sly basin]

literally T92E1 has better armour than it

[violet timber]

The IS-7 sides just require aiming, the Sheridan is a pure roll of the dice do to the sheer amount of space armor

[plucky summit]

I don't event care

I pen IS-7s all day
I HESH Sheridans all day

[violet timber]

I’ve just stopped loading HE at Sheridan’s unless I have the sides or back of their turret

[sly basin]

who said they cant be penned? Trollest dosent mean impennable or reliable, if u are at decent distances and can aim, they are easy pens

especially the bottom part of IS 7 sides are like black holes

with auto ricochet angles

[plucky summit]

I have a question for you

200mm plate or 100mm plate angled 60 degrees?

[sly basin]

obviously 100 mm plates, unless u are facing a Sturmtiger 😅

[plucky summit]

Interesting, why is it obvious to you?

[sly basin]

Due to angle?

[plucky summit]

It's weaker to AP and APCR shells =)
Same strength with HEAT

[violet timber]

You could take the 200mm plate and angle with it

[plucky summit]

Angle the 100mm enough to auto-rico AP and APCR? 😳

[sly basin]

that way, it depends on various situations

[plucky summit]

n @ 60 degrees (cos) = 2n
=)

[sly basin]

anyways gd nt m8s its getting late for me
need sleep!

[violet timber]

Gn

[plucky summit]

Gn

Effectiveness: 200mm >
Weight: 100mm >
Crew space: 200mm >
Depends on how much you value each factor

[thorny smelt]

I'm waiting for the Bobject to come out.

[silent light]

Can i kamikaze in t23E3 ?

[shell robin]

i don't have the tank yet, but I plan on rebuying it to make my mid tier hangar look pretty. I need some tips on what is essentially my least favorite heavy tank in tier 6: the Churchill VII

and while you're at it, could I get some tips on the KV-2 and 40TP Habicha as well?

[safe cedar]

Cant believe WG is Nerfing Amx 50 100, especially its mobility.

[violet timber]

They’re hugging it’s turret armor

[strange thicket]

they are ruining the tank, with a useless armor buff and crippling its mobility.
it will be trash

[safe cedar]

yeah im not happy