vehicles-discussion

[past fractal]

IS-7

[real quarry]

All the Guns except the 107mm have garbage Pen

[verbal cypress]

E 100 is fairly hard to play
Same with is4
And is 7 idk

[real quarry]

Kek

[verbal cypress]

Well yes but t8 heavies Armor is extremely hard to pen .-.

[real quarry]

Yes that's basically what I said.

I used the Top 122mm cus the 107mm lacked Alpha dmg&DPM for me, so I suffered for lack of Penetration when I grinded the KV-4. But that was before the DPM on the 107mm is getting Buffed and was my personal Preference, if you struggle to Pen anything with the 122mm's and have crappy RNG just go for the Engine,Turret, and 107mm Gun in that order.

Engine, Turrer KV-4 5, and 107mm Gun Zis 24 if you have a lot of trouble with. The Zis 24 is getting a Reload Speed Buff next Update so that should help the KV-4 a lot when Maxxed

[verbal cypress]

Oh thx

[violet timber]

E100 and IS-4 are pretty easy to play, just angle

[verbal cypress]

E 100 turret is the thing that holding it back for effective side scraping literally every t10 with premium shell can pen

[violet timber]

You’re still putting in 640 for every shell they put in if you play it right

[verbal cypress]

Ye

[cunning pier]

Is 7 balanced

Change my mind

[violet timber]

Op side armor, ridiculous amount of speed, impenetrable turret, and a nice 130mm gun to boot

[drifting grove]

Frontal armour is bad unless really well angled.
Also, no gun depression, so it can't hulldown that well.
Accuracy is bad.

[violet timber]

Only bad part is the lower plate which is easy to hide, 6 degrees of gd is more than enough, and who need accuracy when you’re up close?

[silver mortar]

the second gun is much better, better gun handling and depression *

the things is u lose gun power which is already a downside on the lttb

[cunning pier]

Annihilator too op change my mind

[onyx sluice]

It is OP but nothing you can't deal with a little skill, plus most Anni players aren't that good.

[drifting grove]

Well, being forced to be up close is a limitation.
Also, many heavies can penetrate its upper plate with standard ammunition. Load gold and the front is butter.

[violet timber]

When straight on no heavies get through with standard, and very few can get through with prammo lol

[drifting grove]

No need. Most of the community agrees.

[drifting grove]

Really?
I'll pull up a screenshot if I can. Wait.

[violet timber]

This is the lowest effective armor amount I can get on the upper plate

[drifting grove]

M-VI-Yoh. 120mm gun with Calibrated Shells.
1st pic is with AP.
2nd pic is with HEAT.
3rd is the lower glacis with AP.

Not precisely front-on, but these are the only ones I could get.

Also, Yoh can pen the upper plate with AP in a facehug.
I've done it, but no screenshots for proof.

[violet timber]

1. The IS-7 isn’t properly angled, of course it’s going through
2. I guess normalization helps
3. Were talking about the upper plate, not the lower plate

[drifting grove]

1st pic.

Still, goes through. That's what matters.
And the 2nd pic is HEAT. Not AP.

[violet timber]

The 1st pic isn’t properly angled, anything is going through. Also you said the second pic was AP, but HEAT is going through when you have Cali on

[drifting grove]

Oof, mis-labelled.
AP doesn't make that spark upon impact.

[violet timber]

320 HEAT plus Cali goes through pretty much anything

The main thing is without loading prammo, a properly angled IS-7 is impenetrable aside from the lower plate which is easy to hide

[drifting grove]

Not if the attacker's gun is in a slightly elevated position. Even a facehug.

[violet timber]

If you have the gun depression, which the yoh does, then yes. Most tanks don’t have the gun depression however

[drifting grove]

Ahh, okay.
Still, IS-7 is not OP.
Just really strong.

[violet timber]

Yoh has a broken 10 degrees, which is the higher end of tier ten, most have less then 8

I never said it was OP, I just said it wasn’t balanced which it isn’t

[drifting grove]

Still good enough.
I've done it with the M-V-Yoh, which has 8°.

[violet timber]

Well the M-V is rather short so it makes sense

[drifting grove]

Do you have a counter-argument to everything I say?

[violet timber]

Of course I do 😁 I make it my job to over analyze games to obtain and extreme advantage over my enemies, even if I have no skill

[drifting grove]

-_-

[violet timber]

I was surprised that the M-V is 1.9 meters tall compared to the IS-7 at 1.88. I expected much more of a disparity between them

[drifting grove]

As am I, really.

TIL I'm almost as tall as the IS-7.

[violet timber]

I’m going off what Blitz Hangar says so I hope it’s not wrong

[jolly cargo]

Can someoneeeee explain to me why on vids i watch of the 183 there hesh pens everything and my pens fck all and i just get 400-500dmg rolls instead of 1k+??

[rigid thunder]

because you're watching highlights

[jolly cargo]

I swear everyyyy time i shoot hesh even at med side armor and shit it just doesnt pen or im unlucky and hit fckin track rollers or somthing its bs

[rigid thunder]

that's how the 183 works

[onyx sluice]

YouTube is notorious for making tanks like the KV-2 and 183 OP while in the game they are always dissapointing.

[tepid geyser]

aiming helps

[lucid kelp]

the type 61 is the worst vehicle I have ever played

[kindred wren]

What have you played?

[drifting grove]

Just the Type 61

[lucid kelp]

292 tanks, i swear that is worst tank just after the is 2, chiense tech tree.

[tepid geyser]

you're probably playing it wrong, it's an amazing tank

[violet timber]

Let me introduce you to the Centurion 1

[drifting grove]

Fortunately, the tanks after it are rather good.

[violet timber]

They're above average at least

[drifting grove]

Never played them.
I'm going by what I've seen in battle and what others say. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[hard cedar]

🤨

[violet timber]

If you use HESH which is the gimmick, you lose a real prammo round. If you use the HEAT gun, might as well play something like an STB

[drifting grove]

Similar to the Yoh, in a different way.
Play the 120 for that intraclip, which is the gimmick, but lose out on DPM and gun handling, or take the 105, but it then just becomes a weaker T57 Heavy or AMX 50B.

[hard cedar]

Taking the 105 doesn't make it a weaker 57/50b

[drifting grove]

Lower clip damage for a similar inter-clip.
I'm just talking about the gun here, not the whole tank.

[violet timber]

The comparison doesn't really work when the Yoh's gimmick is still useable in any scenario.

[brave night]

But does the t57 or 50b have a 12.5 second clip reload

[drifting grove]

Better clip damage is rather more important for a tank with their playstyle, I'd say.
Also, 6 sec for an additional 300 clip damage is a fair tradeoff.

[solid gate]

how is the app called where u ca see all the armor and stuff

[violet timber]

Armor Inspector

[solid gate]

ty

[high anvil]

There’s also turret armor which is really important. Like if the 50b could hulldown, it would be OP af

[drifting grove]

That's true.
Yoh has a solid turret, and even a trollish hull, but I've found it to be unreliable.

[rare ice]

Hey guys what premium vehicle should I get (I have a $50 budget)

[boreal spruce]

if you want to earn credits, get a tier8 you want. 💰
if you want to have a cool great tank, get a tier 10 😎
if you want to sealclub, buy a BP when the BP has a cool tier 4 tank... 🦭

[solid gate]

Is t29 good

[boreal spruce]

a great tier7 tank
the turret is very good
the gun is decent
the hull is meah

its a great tank. looks good too!😎

[drifting grove]

Best Tier VII in the Techtree.

[jolly cargo]

Just bought the wz-111a and i already got a mastery on it 🙂 its a nice tankkk

[boreal spruce]

it is a good tank. 💯

[solid gate]

buff t30

[thorny smelt]

Lucky

[delicate sluice]

Hands down one of the best t7s in the tech tree

[scarlet kernel]

The EU tech tree is IMO the definition of "good"

All the tanks are good, and most of the premiums are almost identical to the tech tree version

Ex. Emil 1 with 1951, 50tp with the prototype, and progetto with pantera

[boreal spruce]

tvp with the T27 though.....

[scarlet kernel]

T27 is badically just a downtier T50, which i have never played the T27 but T50 is a good tank

[plucky summit]

Wow this guy's getting banned

[drifting grove]

It's actually funny, but rules are rules, I suppose.

[analog fox]

So my friend found a panel in a comic, Ghost Rider Crew in an M5 Stuart. Would be the next Halloween tank, if WG is fine with it.

[tepid geyser]

no

[novel shoal]

No

[velvet kiln]

The 122 gun on Chinese IS2 looks so bad

It looks so weird with out the muzzle break on the 122

Pls add it back or add D-25T to the Chinese IS2

[sacred trail]

How do they drive a Stuart anyway? Twin drive levers?

[analog fox]

I think it was in Marvel Comics about Ghost Rider. Would say this M5 Stuart design would be a cosmetics or a Teir 3/4 Collector vehicle without any specialty, except speed. Hellfire Shell would be an interesting feature saying this type pf vehicle has only HE where it would have a bigger chance on causing engine fires. But of course Hellfire shells won't be implemented, because Balance.

[valid gale]

Most of the player base doesn’t care about low tier

[drifting grove]

This ^

[junior pawn]

Using 122 d 25 on kv1s is more fun in burning games

[high anvil]

Burning games healer Grille is even crazier than I thought

went from 75% crew to 91% in like 10 battles

[drifting grove]

Wow

[high anvil]

Got one x3 from first win, and two extra x3 from clan missions

[past fractal]

Does anyone have tips to play super pershing

[drifting grove]

Go to 'Upgrades', click that big, red button on the bottom-right corner, and press confirm.

[onyx sluice]

Hull down, move backwards and forwards to make hitting weak spots difficult. On flat terrain wiggle the hull.

Always stay head on to the enemies, your front armor is decent but side armor is paper if you show even a little side you will get penned.

[flat eagle]

Best tip 👍

[solid gate]

so when the skyline coming out

[manic carbon]

A good tank? No. But it remains a popular tank to play because people play it for the enjoyment of the high alpha shots rather than how good it is

[flat eagle]

hehe big gun go boom

[drifting grove]

Fun? Yes.
Good? There are many better tank destroyers out there.

[mystic cargo]

Is the yoh line worth it in the long run?

[onyx sluice]

Absolutely. Its one of the best lines and amazing in the meta.

[drifting grove]

Can confirm.
-Yoh main.

[heady dew]

Yooo War Gaming when are you dropping the B-C Borrasque. Most aesthetically pleasing tank IMO!

[worn skiff]

I have the vk 100.01 p but I am really struggling at the moment. I push with teammates, try as hard as I can to hide my lfp, sidescrape and gets lots of bounces, and usually end up losing as an enemy will just push around the corner I’m side scraping on and get free hits and kill me. Also, since my reload is slow I can’t exactly prevent them from doing that. Is that my fault or is my team not hitting them enough to prevent those moves? I never push past the mid line at first btw yet enemies still push and get free shots. Any tips? (Btw this happens with 3-4+ allies nearby with firing lines)

[thorny smelt]

You cannot play this tank as a frontline but most might do. The cupola itself sticks out like a sore thumb. You need someone to support you since the tank itself is VERY sluggish (heck you Porsche) and get easily circled by a very mobile tank.

[hard cedar]

yes let me snipe in my german superheavy

[onyx sluice]

You're doing everything you can, slow heavy tanks with long reloads are very team dependent and there is no going around that. If your mediums and faster heavies don't stop the enemy from flanking you will die.

[past fractal]

Should I use cali or gun rammer on T26E4 super pershing?

[drifting grove]

Use the 'Sell' button.
Works quite well.

[onyx sluice]

Rammer.

[worn skiff]

I’m not even getting circled the enemy is just able to pull around a building, sit next to me and shoot me in the side before I can turn. How are you supposed to play a German super heavy in a solo public match then if they can’t be on the front line without someone else supporting you a lot?

[worn skiff]

I’m a big fan of tanks with well angled armor to bounce shots and really appreciate penetration as I’m ftp and try to avoid using prammo. What tanks do you think fit that bill while not being as team dependent as those big super heavies? I don’t mind relying on a team but I’d like something at least a little bit more capable of handling itself and suppressing enemies better

[onyx sluice]

I will suggest the IS-4 line.

And if you like German tanks the E100 line is quite good too, the E75 is one of the best heavy tanks in the game.

[broken hedge]

IS-7

[worn skiff]

I started on Germans and I’m slowly turning away towards other lines. I’m just not too much of a fan of how much they rely on hp pools

[violet timber]

IS-7 sounds like a rather good fit

[broken hedge]

Yeah it does

[worn skiff]

What’s the big difference between is 4 and 7?

[broken hedge]

7 is better than 4 after the pdr buff,
And it fits ur playstile.

Ur a new player, grinding to is 4 will be pain, and ruin all ur stats.

[worn skiff]

Thanks for the advice everyone. I’ll definitely give the IS lines a try. I’ve been working the polish heavies and I like it so IS will probably be nice as well

[broken hedge]

Yup the polish grind em!

Polish fits a lot too!

[lyric copper]

don’t get too close to the building and back off if they get close

sidescraping doesn’t just mean having to touch the walls, you can do it without touching the walls, this method is also safer and gives you time to react to enemies who push around

[worn skiff]

Yeah I do try and sit back from walls too. However they still have to opportunity to rush and just hit my glacis instead or just the huge cupola

[lyric copper]

normally when you shoot, you can expect people to come around to shoot you, so I normally shoot, and prepare for them to come around, if they don’t, I just return slowly to sidescrape position, key word here is slowly, they might be waiting for you to expose bad armour once again

and for the cupola, you can easily block with the gun/ use positions that hide the cupola

alternatively you can turn the turret so you can hide the cupola

[violet timber]

This is pretty much what you’re going for

[lyric copper]

imo slightly overangling

[violet timber]

That’s actually the most effective angle

[boreal spruce]

gun rammer
jitter the turret
angle the gun barrel up and wiggle when reloading
go hulldown and use the slopes
angle the hull also (but not too much, the sides are weak)
facehug if you can, when in a face hug just wiggle the turret, angle the hull, and you should be all good!👍

BTW the picture is how i would crest a ridge, with the gun up and the hull angled slightly.

the Tank has a very high skill ceiling to make it work properly, and is not a simple tank to play, that's why most players dislike the tank.🤔 its not a tank that is brilliant in all battles, but it does very well, it taught me on PC a lot of heavium tactics that i use today.😁

Hope that helps!

[violet timber]

Turret cheeks go brrrrrr

[boreal spruce]

if you're wiggling, then cheeks go smallllll!! 🧐

[hard cedar]

the Tank has a very high skill ceiling to make it work properly, and is not a simple tank to play, that's why most players dislike the tank.
no it's just bad

[violet timber]

Not really lol, just timing. Wiggling makes the cheeks bigger

[solid gate]

why would you wiggle the turret and expose even more of your cheeks? all the enemy will do is wait for you to overturn and then shoot

instead, move your hull back and forth along the x plane and your cheek's positions relative to where theyre aiming will change, and the actual surface they can penetrate remains the same, making it harder for them to hit it

[violet timber]

^ this is proper

[boreal spruce]

that works too, 👍

[violet timber]

That just works, wiggling doesn’t

[boreal spruce]

personally i find it helps me a lot, wiggling not in the sense of wiggling though, probably the better word is "jittering" On PC i call it EWM (excited wiggling movements). like a tank which has had too much coffee

[hard cedar]

is that not just wiggling

[violet timber]

If you do it too quickly then it does nothing because the turret traverse can’t keep up.

[solid gate]

another thing is that ur on asia server, where the average player would fail to hit an elephant in an alley from 5 yards with a gun

[violet timber]

NA server best server

[boreal spruce]

NA is a very good server ngl, when i was over there i platooned with my cousin and it was something to remember! 😅

[violet timber]

It’s an experience, most matches you’re facing at least one person who’s semi competent

It’s one of the reason I use the STA, I find using bad tanks in a highly competitive server funny

[thick trout]

Lifting the gun only weakens the already weak armour, you don't want to rely on it in the slightest otherwise you'll just get massacred even faster

[violet timber]

Spersh, the heavy tank without armor

[boreal spruce]

imd, APAC server isnt as bad as people say, it does tend to have better team cohesion but you get some crazy players....👀

[violet timber]

I want to create an APAC or EU alt just to see how good I can get my stats

[boreal spruce]

🤣 lmao

[violet timber]

This is my NA alt that I haven’t played in a while

[boreal spruce]

nice! reroll i assume?

[violet timber]

I need to get back on it and grind the STA

[boreal spruce]

tell me one good point about the sta-1, please! i hear a lot of hate for it...

[violet timber]

Penetration 😎

[worn skiff]

Yeah I know to do it but playing on a phone makes that really difficult with how small the area is to look around without moving the turret. I’ve found it puts me in worse positions because I end up just having to look up and can’t see

[violet timber]

You don’t have to put the gun the whole way up, just shove it in front of your cupola and dance about

[worn skiff]

Do you play on a pc?

[violet timber]

I play on both

Most of my experience is on mobile though

[austere hearth]

my blitz user is something_70

yea

[real quarry]

Ho-Ri Type 2(Tier 9 in the HoRi Line), what's your opinion on the Tank and any tips&tricks for fighting it/using it?

[boreal spruce]

the tank has good gun depression try to use it.
your DPM isn't the best so **don't 1vs 1 unless you can win it.
the amour is good albeit flat so wiggle from side to side when reloading.
the gun is rear mounted so rear ridge peak if possible. **
the penetration is sublime.
the tank is slow so don't brawl or 1v1.

camping is a viable option but your camo is bad thus be an active camper (go with the team, stay 100 metres behind, use cover etc).

if you can focus on tanks with high armour values; tunnel armored tanks so you team don't have to.

Good luck Tanking!

[real quarry]

Thanks, I hadn't thought much to focus primarily on the Best Armored Tanks. I learned not to Brawl when a Sheridan on his first Life flanked and killed me once, and then spawnkilled me for my Last Life cus my Teammates were just barely too slow.

[boreal spruce]

🤣 no worries

[real quarry]

And by too slow I mean the Jageroo less than 5m away from me didn't shoot when he had the chance to kill the Sheridanand didn't fry Driving around......and the Sheridan danced very well behind me using me as Cover......

[boreal spruce]

lol, ah tds...

[real quarry]

That Sheridan was definitely more Skilled than some of my Teammates

Was very annoying in the heat of the moment, but looking back it's pretty funny

[boreal spruce]

i bet he was loving it

[real quarry]

Definitely

[lyric copper]

You can use “lookout mode”

personally don’t have problems on my iPhone6s screen

[turbid thunder]

How do I get OBJ263's legendary camo ?

[thorny smelt]

Check at the Camo tab of your vehicle. It is usually the first one that costs thousands of gold.

[turbid thunder]

It doesnt appear

[hard cedar]

you can't get it rn

[worn skiff]

Yeah I do. I just always have issues with that looking down. Works great side to side but can’t go down much. Maybe my case hugs the screen too much idk but going down never works well

[lyric swift]

is the Leopard 1 good for starters?

[hard cedar]

def not

[lyric swift]

well i already start grind for Leo 1 and T62

[hard cedar]

well t62a is better for beginners

[lyric swift]

yeah

and also i grind the Obj 140 in the same time

[lyric swift]

is the SU-122-54 a tank good for brawling some flanking mediums?

[charred vigil]

depends, don't get in too close because the mediums will try and track you then get behind you, if they get behind its basically over

[spark basin]

double shot is such a meme gimmick honestly its not worth like half the time

[lyric swift]

Also : dont buy Obj 263 cuz fragile ammorack

[hard cedar]

🐒

[paper beacon]

man screw me

[hard cedar]

ammorack on 263 isnt even a problem

[fresh helm]

Bruh i haven't got ammo racked on my Obj.263, neither IS-7

[modest solar]

What should I buy for 3K gold, would say its my first time spending it

[drifting grove]

Nothing.
Keep saving up for Black Friday.
You'll probably have ~5,000 by then, which'll get you a decent Tier VIII.

[royal cargo]

does lifting the emil 1 turret hide weakspots or make it stronger like the kranvgan? or does it make it worse since of the way the gun is mounted

[onyx sluice]

The top of the turret is technically a weak spot but I've never seen anyone actually pen it.

With the Emil it is more likely they will go through the plat portion of the turret front with gold ammo.

[royal cargo]

Thought so thanks

[jolly cargo]

Tog 2 opinions thinking of buying it

[onyx sluice]

Don't, its a meme tank but is crap.

[jolly cargo]

Okay lol

[drifting grove]

Heh. First shot ever fired at my Emil I was an HE that penned my cupola.

[royal cargo]

St Emil or Emil 1?

[solid gate]

Nashorn sucks at Armor But Op with the gun

[violet timber]

Tog 2 is a meme, but it’s a rather good meme

Armor can work, hp pool go brrrrr, dpm go brrrrrr

[solid gate]

should i buy tog or black friday ?

[onyx sluice]

Black Friday.

[drifting grove]

Emil I.

[solid gate]

@onyx sluice ok

[rare ice]

Guys should I restore my Vk 90.01 (P) with my gold or buy a ton of bad company crates

[thorny smelt]

Keep it dude

[rare ice]

Why

[thorny smelt]

Are you still playing that tank? I rarely see VK 90.01 P nowadays. It's one of my dream tanks TBH.

[onyx sluice]

I want it too lol. Never see it come for a straight gold offer though, only crates.

[thorny smelt]

I hate crates down deep to my bones

[onyx sluice]

Same, aren't worth it no matter the tank.

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. If AMX M4 54 is out, I might also get that tank.

[rose jungle]

I avg 3.5k and it still drops wn8

[onyx sluice]

If WG wanted to make the TOG actually good, they need to give it preferential match making.

[rose jungle]

Gud point

[hard cedar]

Tog is already decent it has hp and dpm

[thorny smelt]

With VK 90.01 P?

[rose jungle]

Yes

[thorny smelt]

How is it compared to the tech tree counterparts?

[rose jungle]

Better

[thorny smelt]

Better armor?

[rose jungle]

Yes

[eager moon]

Hello guys i have a T54, and I have to choose between the T62A and the OBJ140. Wich one is the best ?

[plucky summit]

T-62A is easier to play, Obj. 140 takes skill, but can perform better

[eager moon]

Obj 140 is more aggresive gameplay than T62A ? Some tells me that he can bounce more than the T62A

[violet timber]

140 gameplay is more aggressive, but it has worse overall armor

[royal cargo]

I can't get over how quick you can get tanks now especially when you have the battle pass. I just returned to blitz after 2 years and I grinded from t5 to almost t9 in about 5 days. Earlier it took a few months to get to tier 10. Now I can probably get one in a few weeks I stopped using boosters just so I can enjoy the tanks more. On that note should I keep the Emil 1 or sell it for the Emil Ii since I'm a bit short on creds. I understand it used to be really good before the nerf and still is one of the better tanks at t8?

[wise moth]

62A is outright better. There is no reason to play a 140 nowadays.

[drifting grove]

There's a lot of people saying the 140 is good in its own way because of better mobility and concealment.
What do you think about that?

[wise moth]

I find it to be an exercise in mental gymnastics to justify some reason to play a 140 instead of the 62, since I think people find it hard to accept that one of the two would be just outright better.

As far as better mobility goes, it depends. 62’s tactical mobility is superior due to better acceleration and traverse. If you race a 62 and a 140 on flat ground (like the highway on black goldville), you’ll find that the 62 is faster up until you get to around halfway across the map at which point the 140’s higher speed limit finally compensates the acceleration difference.

The camo difference is honestly negligible.

The last argument I usually hear for the 140 is the hull armor, but the only difference is that 140 is sloped an extra 2 degrees, which rarely comes into effect. In general if you bounce with the 140 hull, chances are you also would have bounced with the 62 hull.

At the end of the day, the big difference is that the 62 has a reliable turret and -7 gun depression and 140 doesn’t. Better accuracy/gun handling/aim time and extra HP is just salt in the wound

[drifting grove]

Ahh, I see now.
Alright, thanks.

[runic summit]

MT-25 or T-34/85?

[drifting grove]

T-34-85

[runic summit]

T-62A or Object 140

[solid gate]

I took the T-62A cuz it needed less xp lol

[drifting grove]

Read above .
T-62A obviously.

[violet timber]

MT-25 is actually better

The Russian light path is better than the meds

[drifting grove]

Is it really?

[violet timber]

Oh yeah, the Russian tier 6-8 meds are disappointing. The lights have the same effective armor, if not more, better mobility, and similar guns

[drifting grove]

Oh, I see.

[wise moth]

The lights are more fun, but I personally like the mediums more (although I will acknowledge that is not a popular opinion)

[violet timber]

Using the tier 8s, the Ltwt has some major advantages. Mainly insane mobility and better turret armor. Granted the T-44 does have 7 degrees of gd, but a weak turret doesn’t let it hull down as effectively

[plucky summit]

Remember this uh-oh in the 8.4 release video?

Skoda T 25 was boutta have a bad day

[boreal spruce]

lmao! 🤣

[lyric copper]

fun fact: if both the T-54LTWT and T-44 have their top guns and are only firing AP, the LTWT can pen the T44 while it has to aim harder to pen the LTWT back

[violet timber]

Ltwt supremacy

[lyric copper]

you trade 2° of gundep for superior speed and turret armour

not to mention the LTWT’s gun handling, which now that I checked, is the same as the T-44, but hey, it’s still faster, and has more DPM

[mighty tinsel]

How's the E3?

[violet timber]

Strong

[lyric copper]

needs a nerf to the cupola imo

and on a ridge it’s way too strong

[thick trout]

Imagine using the 100mm on the T44 :/

[boreal spruce]

ltwt is just a Leavium / Might why would you play the T44?

[kind falcon]

For the 122mm of course

[plucky summit]

But then Chimera exists =(

[kind falcon]

But you play T-44 with 122mm for the funni just like playing KV-2. A lot of people play their KV-2 for daily dose of russian bias but you need 122mm T-44 to get the maximum benefits

plus chimera has 127mm gun not 122 and 122 is the magic russia number

[plucky summit]

Yes but KV-2 actually has the highest caliber in tier, T-44 doesn't even have highest caliber in class

[kind falcon]

but it has the highest reload which means more time to regret your decisions in between shots 🤔

[plucky summit]

xD

T-44 players and KV-2 players get things in common, but KV-2s can actually one-shot

[kind falcon]

But T-44 can be one shotted more often because of the epic gamer ammo rack which means you can use your turret as a weapon.
T-44: 1
KV-2: 0

[plucky summit]

KV-2 doesn't get outtraded
KV-2 has more DPM even with pAP vs T-44's AP
KV-2 has cracked module damage (of course)
KV-2 had an entire equipment rework made for it
KV-2 had to be nerfed along with the rework
KV-2 is an actual meme

[gentle roost]

Is the T-34-3 tank good?

[violet timber]

Yes

[thick trout]

Eh not really, just a worse T-34-2 which is fun but situational and requires smart gameplay

[gentle roost]

Oh ok

Thanks

[kind falcon]

Real chads dont have to rely on high alpha damage to out trade enemies
DPM is overrated
KpfPz 70 still has better module damage even with subcaliber round
T-44 is so balanced it didn't necesitate an equipment rework and also didn't need to be nerfed
KV-2 is an overused meme just look at all the annoying KV-2 meme reposts, T-44 is unique and inspires original memes
I think it's safe to say that the 122mm T-44 is clearly the better tank 😎

[heady current]

quick question, is the IS-5’s hull based off of the IS-7? They both look very similar at the rear

[kind falcon]

<@&481447501690568709> fake nitro

[solid gate]

apparently no but its a improved version of is3
and originally named object 730

[heady current]

thank you very much

[lyric swift]

for me u better take T-62A bcs obj 140 can get a prammo spam and it can pen and damage it

[past fractal]

T62A as the others said

But I dont think object 140 is a bad choice either. It is a very small target with fast speed.

[drifting grove]

Posit1ve literally wrote an essay on why not to take the Object 140.

[brave night]

I prefer 140

[past fractal]

Where

[drifting grove]

@past fractal Here.^^

[solid gate]

Finally,tier 10

[pallid moss]

noice, im making my way to this, at tier 7 rn 😪

[solid gate]

Good for you,nice line

[calm drum]

Milk Enjoyer#8597 has been warned.

[solid gate]

Why was I warned for epilepsy it was just a fish? There weren’t any flashing lights

https://tenor.com/view/oh-omg-fish-shookt-triggered-gif-9720855

[royal cargo]

Very relavant to the topic

[keen vault]

is action x op?

[violet timber]

Not really

[royal cargo]

It's not?

[violet timber]

No

[manic carbon]

It’s good but overrated. It’s really not OP

[keen vault]

is progetto t8 premium good

[violet timber]

Yes

[keen vault]

is centurion t8 good? i wonder if i will bought the action x or all of them

[violet timber]

Tech tree cent is the worst tier 8 med, the 5/1 is better than the AX but worse than the Prog

[keen vault]

ahh

[royal cargo]

The prog seems to be like God gift to man

[keen vault]

so i should get progretto prem and next is action x

[violet timber]

The Prog is in the running for the best tier 8 med

[keen vault]

i like action x because not of camoflauge but in low tiers its the best for me, beaten by 100 times of that tank

[royal cargo]

What's the best?

[violet timber]

Either Prog or Chimera

[royal cargo]

I do like British crew voices plus heavily armoured tanks should I get the Cax over prog in blitz cup? Or is prog just so good that it's a no brainer

[violet timber]

Prog is by far the best

[royal cargo]

Lol btw where does the Emil 1 stand among other tier 8s?

[lyric swift]

on speed for heavy tanks

[rose gulch]

Action x is better then centurion mk 1 right

[lyric swift]

yes

[rose gulch]

Ok imma get the action x

[lyric swift]

it has a broken armor and a good gun accuracy

imma get the Centurion Mk 5/1 bcs of its superb mobility and armor and good credit grinding and better than any centurions in the game

[warm leaf]

Any tips for Emil 2 because I am having trouble with it

[keen vault]

hide ur hull

[violet timber]

It’s the second strongest tier 8 heavy imo

[violet timber]

Cent Mk1 is the worst tier 8, the Mk 5/1 is better than the AX

[violet mesa]

Maus Haus best tank

[violet timber]

Nah

[hazy ingot]

I'm performing good in Leopard PT A, should l buy the tier X Leopard 1? It got the same gun (idk about the control if it's better or worse) worst camo, worst view range... Is it really worth to buy? (I know it has 9° of gun depression but still).....

[violet timber]

Leo 1 is much better, the only reason you see it as worse is that your Leo pta is fully equipped while the Leo 1 the game shows you is just 100% crew

[hazy ingot]

Ok then! I'll go for it, thanks 💕

[warm leaf]

I try to that to hide my hull sometimes I get push

[silent light]

Is E 100 good enough to carry team ?

[tepid geyser]

sure, most tanks have the ability to carry the team, the ability to do so often depends on the player and their skill @silent light

[silent light]

Guess my BatChat and Foch 155 have 44% winrates is because i have skill issue

[tepid geyser]

depends on how you play them, but if you aren't averaging really high damage with that kind of winrate, then yes

[silent light]

My BatChat is always bullied by med and lt

Foch 155 is always bullied by Grille 15, Fv 4005, and Sheridan.

[tepid geyser]

not really, it's a really strong tank that can do a lot of bullying if you get it in the right spots

[silent light]

My BatChat have to versus than sneaky shot

Which isn't good for Batchat.

[tepid geyser]

no, you want to be sneaky with it, don't go trying to fight people 1 on 1 with the batchat unless they are a 1 clip for you. Use the strengths of the tank; aka the mobility, the autoloader and the camo

[silent light]

My teammate make me do that. Lastest match, STB go versus with med and Standar B versus T93E3 and i get hit by med and T93E3

Batchat too...

[tepid geyser]

your teammates don't make you do anything in this game, you can do what you want to do with your tanks, that's the beauty of the game

[silent light]

What ???

I am a player who heavily rely on teammates....

[tepid geyser]

your teammates can't force you to do anything in this game, learn to not rely on teammates, use them as bait for extra damage and to save your hp, especially in a tank like the bat chat

[silent light]

I used my AMX 13 90 and 75 like a bait for enemy

[tepid geyser]

no, you have to let your team be the bait, get free damage off of the reds when your teammates are distracting the reds, if you're using your light tanks as bait for the enemy, you're playing them wrong

[royal cargo]

After 52tp

[brave night]

53

[silent light]

After @tepid geyser advice, my BatChat do well...

[tepid geyser]

Bam, there we go, that’s a good result

[silent light]

I feel bad for seeing my teammate as a bait.

[violet timber]

I had T54E2 as the best

[tepid geyser]

Don’t, it will help you get better results

[silent light]

Ok

[manic carbon]

Many teammates primary use will be to act as the cannon fodder so you can preserve your life and make plays

But that doesn’t mean I will play completely selfishly. It’s quite important to try to keep your friendly guns in the game. An extra gun that can shoot at an enemy makes your life easier and a better chance at winning fights and the game.
I will always constantly analyse my team to see if there is anyone that could use support etc. Occasionally there’ll be situations when there’s a teammate that is one shot, I have HP to spare, so I intentionally have the enemy shoot me to keep my ally in the game. Sort of things like that

[low nexus]

Can we make this a light tank? I know this will receive 0 credit, but whatever. thoughts be thoughts

[manic carbon]

…

[boreal spruce]

🐔

[plucky summit]

What have you done?

[low nexus]

Death

[plucky summit]

😰

[low nexus]

You see this Light tank coming, You better back yo fat E 100 up.

[plucky summit]

Nah, THIS thing

[violet timber]

Disgusting.

[plucky summit]

😭

[solid gate]

HD Graphics on JG E100 when 🤔

[stray verge]

HD graphics on Maus when🤔

[boreal spruce]

PBR graphics on UE 57 when? 🤔

[slate wren]

chieftain mk6 is not a very good tank change my mind

[hard cedar]

Skill issue

[plucky summit]

That’s a good thing

[scarlet kernel]

So, an IS-7 decided to ram a low HP 50B in it's normal speed and failed, so in turn it killed me

So for everyone information, the 50B weight 62 tons and IS-7 weight 68, not a huge different so ramming it, especially in a slow speed is not a good idea

[glad matrix]

Turtle 1 need a serious buff. For a premium it has nothing : bad mobility and bad armor. Increase mobility : 20 to 25 mph, which is only a small buff but overall suppress the 2 weak spots on upper parts of frontal armor. Why these weak spots ? As it has no mobility, we can expect for a such TD to have an excellent frontal armor (with the usual weak spot on lower part of frontal armor). So Turtle 1 could be a convenient premium tank and not this piece of s...

[solid gate]

Agree

[proud knoll]

Nice but can I ask u? IS-7 vs 60TP which tank win lol

Oh ok

[violet timber]

60 TP is better

[delicate sluice]

It just needs a large frontal armor buff

[violet timber]

Why do all premiums have to be strong? Why can't we have bad prems like we have bad tech tree tanks?

[rigid thunder]

because people want to spend money for a tank they can enjoy, and that happens to be the case for most players if said tank is very strong

[violet timber]

Then just don't buy the Turtle mk. 1 lol

[rigid thunder]

oh the turtle? That thing is quite literally a terrible AT-15 with absolutely no redeeming qualities. Making bad or average premium tanks is one thing, but making them inferior carbon copies of tech tree ones is flat out lazy and horrible design

[valid gale]

That’s the point of them though? Lol is6 was just a worse copy of is3 for the longest time in the past

[wind acorn]

I missed by a hare, was aiming for the tortoise 😉

[rigid thunder]

The IS-6 was among the few tanks that did come with pref mm, and when +/-2 was removed, it was and still is a sidegrade to the IS-3 in terms of its dpm gun as the IS-3 with the dpm gun has noticeably worse handling

[dusty dawn]

KV-1 Q. If I own the 85mm and want to get to the kv-2, can I buy the derp gun and not mount it?

[lyric swift]

idk

[plucky summit]

Yes, just mount the gun back after you get the 122mm

[thorny smelt]

KV-1S in WOT PC: Why can't I have the 122 mm gun?! KV-85 has the 122 mm despite its name implies it should be using the 85 mm gun.

[lyric swift]

i better say when u buy the KV-2 just research the derp gun bcs the other gun selection such as ZiS-6 is the worse gun handling

[dusty dawn]

My bro loves the KV-2 with derp gun..

[lyric swift]

yea its totally a derp that can one shot a tier 5

[dusty dawn]

He's into the massive Russian armor. KV-2 SU-152, etc.

[lyric swift]

2 of those tanks are completely derp, SU-152 and the ISU has capability insta kill some tier 6s

[low nexus]

Is E 100 Overrated? Reply with reactions.*

[lyric swift]

👍

[plucky summit]

We can’t react lol

[low nexus]

Comet did it right? I ment reply*

[lyric swift]

yea i cant i can only send a emoji

[plucky summit]

No, he replied with an emoji, reactions are smaller and under your text

Ah ok then

[low nexus]

I meant reply Chill

[lyric swift]

no i am not i cant react too same with others

[plucky summit]

Don’t tell me to chill, I did nothing else after you edited your text :|

[lyric swift]

Lmao

[plucky summit]

My balls

The ones on the moon in WoTC

I think they were ‘Fireball’s

[lyric swift]

should i buy the IS-7?

and take the whole IS line like taking IS to IS-7

[broken turtle]

go ahead

[verbal orchid]

Concept1b turret gonma be hard?

[silent light]

My BatChat won 42 and losed 64

I try hard to fight as best as i can but still losed

[drifting grove]

Yes.
It has a solid turret, but a really weak hull.

[drifting grove]

Yes.
After that, you can also go for the IS-4, as completing the IS-7 line means you won't have to suffer with the IS-4 line's stock guns.
Fair warning: Save up 55k FXP for the IS-3 because only its top gun has 225mm pen. And the rest of them have ~170mm which, on a heavy tank, is useless at Tier VIII.

[gloomy rune]

Lost
So basically you made a typo/spelling error

[kindred wren]

Ah yes, that is the root of all his problems

[lyric swift]

well i'd like to say the KV-3 line from stock gun is kinda more to a coffin

until u reach ST-I it has heavy armor and the best thing is it has a a better armor than any of its little predecessors

[royal cargo]

In a lot of videos of the ho ri I see a lot of jokes about how the ho ri makes armour irrelevant and that the pen is insane etc but when I saw the stats the premium pen is the same as the jp e100 so why is everyone so hyped ? Unless it was nerfed

[rigid thunder]

The Ho-Ri has 380mm premium AP, while other tds like the jgpz e100 or the 268 have 380mm HEAT. AP has much better normalisation against angled armour (5 degrees) than HEAT, which gets 0, meaning the Ho-Ri is much more effective than HEAT at dealing with angled armour

[lyric swift]

and Ho Ri has too many Mobility and can outspin some medium tanks for its tier and the Mt can stop and cricling at other direction

[thorny smelt]

Almost getting the Ho-Ri. My first tier 10 tank destroyer

[royal cargo]

ahh i see thanks

[thorny smelt]

Honestly, I have so much good luck playing Japanese tank destroyers than any other tank destroyers combined. Welp.

[lyric swift]

well Japanese tanks most of them are underdog by other player think and some of them they think it too weak for a TD

[violet timber]

They’re kinda average for tds

[lyric swift]

yea ik

and also those Japanese TDs are made for skilled hands

[thorny smelt]

Yo. I have most wins when I play Ho-Ri Type 1 and 2 than any of the tank destroyers I have (Jagdpanther II and Jagdtiget 8,8 cm, even the WZ Blaze). I never knew it is for skilled players, but I'm quite comfortable playing them.

[shadow stream]

Could WG buff WZ-113 credits efficiency? It really feels underwhelming compared to other tier X tanks. Tank has a lot of pros and cons but it all sinergises well and makes the tank good but bad credit coenfficiency really hurts to drive it for a long time.

[onyx sluice]

Almost none of the tier 10s have good credit efficiency. Especially if you don't have premium time and use boosters.

That is the point of the tier, being a credit sink for players.

[drifting grove]

The only Tier Xs that can actually make credits without requiring you to use premium, equip boosters, do well, and win all at the same time are the Premiums and Collectors.

[hard cedar]

Not all of them

[drifting grove]

At least the ones that have a 140% CC.

[shadow stream]

I can play tier X and still make credits. So don't tell me you can't do that. But WZ-113 is really hard to earn credits in compared to other tech tree tanks that I play. Don't hit me with norm that all tier X can't earn credits. If you can't earn then you are not playing well enough.

[high anvil]

Yeah, don't really have a problem at least going even in tier 10. If you average 2.5k and survive, it's not that much of a credit sink. Exception for me is the 4202, HESH will lose you like 40k per game 💀

[brave night]

I’m using a PA with like all the provisions and consumables and usually break even or make 10k profit

My goal at t10 is not to make credits rather bring my avg dmg up

[solid gate]

Hello guys is there anyone who owns the type 59? I wanna know if its still a relevant tank and if its worth buying for the 6,5k gold, thanks

[real plover]

Since the Vk 45.03 is in the store, is it worth the 3.5K gold?

[shadow stream]

I bought Type 59 for 5k gold. And well you got better options. type 59 lacks in pen and dpm and well that hurts that tank a lot. Better buy other OP mediums that are current meta.

[solid gate]

Thanks

Guess I'll just wait till black friday to get smthn else

[shadow stream]

I personally like Type 59 and it's a good tank but there are better tanks.

[solid gate]

Vk 45 is very situational and really map dependant the tank requires some skill since its not really perfect but if u like armor tanks that u can do sidescraping with and know how to play with tanks that are gonna get uptiered most of the time then yes sure

[shadow stream]

Vk 45.03 armor bot buffed. It's a good tank now. It's not a cheez anymore that you trow anything at it and it pens but I wouldn't buy it. I don't see me playing tanks with low damage guns on heavies although that's only my opinion. Also I got VK 45.03 for free few years ago. Don't even remember how I got it xd

[solid gate]

Wait it got armor buff?

[shadow stream]

Ye

[solid gate]

Oooh ye I forgot bout the 8,1 update but still I dont really like the tank bcuz I dont like pew pew guns on heavies

[shadow stream]

Well it's better then Tiger I and Tiger P if you ask me. Armor is more reliable then a box shape.

[solid gate]

Yes of course it is better I player with it couple months ago on my other account but didnt play it since, but its mobility is meh compared to tiger 1

[manic carbon]

It’s not as good as it used to be. Better off saving your gold

[solid gate]

I rather have mobility then armor on low caliber guns

And tiger 1s armor is pretty much enough too its very trollish and when angled its really strong

[solid gate]

Ye thanks

Btw which tank are u guys gonna choose if you will be watching the streams or which one would u pick if u dont have time for it u know

[strange thicket]

progetto

[solid gate]

👍

[ionic mason]

What is the real xp cost of T-54? When i click on T-54 ltwt., It shows different ammount of xp.

[violet timber]

This happens with certain tanks because they have 2 lines leading into them. 1 line is the “True” line and the other is an “Alternate” line. The alternate lines require more xp than the true lines

The more famous case of this is the Tiger (P) leading into the Ferdinand

[ionic mason]

Ah i see, when i click on T-44, it shows 142k xp. Thanks, i never noticed that anywhere.

[violet timber]

I believe it may happen with the T49 as well, leading to both the T92E1 and T54E1, though I’m not positive on this one

[ionic mason]

Nope it doesnt, 170k for T54E1 from both ways it shows.

No matter if you use T49 or T69

[violet timber]

Interesting

[warm hawk]

hello everyone, all right? I was thinking here and came up with a question, why doesn't wargaming add the option to choose the 183mm cannon on the "FV4005"

[violet timber]

Broken and toxic.

[manic carbon]

Think of it from a balancing perspective.
The FV215B 183 had to be nerfed into the ground because its 183mm was such an issue. Even nerfed and one of the worst tier tens, it’s still highly played.
Do you really want a second 183mm at tier ten? The autoloader they decided to give it makes it unique without being obnoxious or broken

[drifting grove]

Because we already have 1 183mm, and Fv4005 has Super Consumables, which would make the 183mm OP.

[vocal igloo]

@drifting grove oh yes, the Reticle Calibration

we dont need another 183mm on this game, u wont literally see a tank come to u with a super consumable, 40km/h and deals 1300 with its hesh

[onyx sluice]

Not really, the armor is still paper. Even tier 7 heavies won't have much trouble penning you with standard.

[real plover]

Just looks fun to play as a med/light hunter

[warm pumice]

does armor matter in X tier tanks?
i mean all of them have strong weapons will it effect?

[blissful hamlet]

Ye

[warm pumice]

thank you

[blissful hamlet]

Look at the IS-4 armor, is a beast

[warm pumice]

this is my goal is it good?

[drifting grove]

It's strong.
But you need to know how to work with low speed and horrible mobility.
You're very team-dependent.

[warm pumice]

got it👍

[solid gate]

my goal is to get a E 100 but im new to blitz and i started at the usa line, im stuck at tier 7-

[drifting grove]

You also need excellent positioning, because you can't relocate much with that speed and mobility.
Faster tanks can swith to a better position with ease. Not this one.
Also, be vary of your teammates as you're massive and dead-slow, so if you aren't careful, you could easily end up blocking them.

[drifting grove]

In fact this is one of the reasons why I hate having super-heavies on my team.
They lack map awareness and end up blocking their teammates, which is really annoying.

[hard cedar]

Maus is supposed to block damage for their team

[violet timber]

Maus is meant to sit at the back of the map and snipe because pen loss over distance means Maus is impenetrable

[worn skiff]

I know of blocking teammates by getting in the way of their shots and keeping them from getting in position, but are there other forms that I should be aware of to ensure I don’t do them?

[drifting grove]

Just keep an eye on your teammates and try to stay out of their way.

[charred vigil]

it costs more for the ltwt but ltwt doesn't require as many moduels and its a better tank so i would rather grind down that line

[ionic mason]

im already grinding with T-54 ltwt :)

[charred vigil]

I grinded down ltwt line and ended up getting obj 140 instead 🙂 very enjoyable might plan on getting 62a too

[drifting grove]

T62A is far better than the Object 140.

[lyric copper]

don’t want one of the most horrid guns in the game to be on one of the more mobile tier X TDs thanks

[drifting grove]

Imagine 183mm Grille.

[lyric copper]

and that is how you get someone to commit a crime

[drifting grove]

XD

[warm pumice]

which tank do you recommend
E100 or maus

[violet timber]

E100

[boreal spruce]

e 100

[warm pumice]

so i have to start from tier v again😐

[violet timber]

Just free xp lol

[warm pumice]

wdym

[charred vigil]

140 is fun brawler

[violet timber]

Free pz up to tier 7 or something

[warm pumice]

i cant get it
i have the tigar p

[violet timber]

Then keep going up that line

[warm pumice]

but e100 is better
pain

[violet timber]

Maus is also rather good

[warm pumice]

i actually wanted to get e100
but i mistakely spent my ☆ on vk 3001 p
PAIN

[thick trout]

The maus line is pretty good it just might be a little slow and boring and it gets a lot better when you have enough experience to get your positioning right almost all the time

[jolly cargo]

Best Med to grind?? Ive got 183 E100 vickers and wz-111 5a just need a good med nw

[boreal spruce]

go for the M48, its a great tank 💯

[swift oracle]

But KV-2 is better

[boreal spruce]

if you want a yolo tank get the E50, but the M48 is a jack of all trades, the line is being buffed in the next update too! so it should be good fun doing it! 👍

[jolly cargo]

Sweet sounds good to me 🙂

[warm pumice]

now i think im gonna get Maus
after that grille 15

[glossy stump]

62a or m48

[static token]

tips for 183?

[violet timber]

🅱️ ESH

[lyric swift]

i think if u want to play that u , there is no room for mistakes bcs 1 mistake can put ur 183 killed so for my advices is u better stay camp

[hard cedar]

1 mistake can get any tank killed

[lyric swift]

yeah

so 183 is a derp that only made for skilled hands only

[hard cedar]

not really

[lyric swift]

but it has plastic armor and derp so u have to learn be a TD player bcs that thing is made for camping

[hard cedar]

camping is useless and camping in the 183 is even more useless

[lyric swift]

so?

rushsing to much will make u killed, so u have to be like in the 2nd line of attack

[hard cedar]

yes, so 2nd line and don't snipe from the corner

[lyric swift]

yeap

[solid gate]

M48 line is getting buffed?

[boreal spruce]

the main sad tank on the line (Pershing) is finally getting a DPM buff, 500 more DPM.

[plucky summit]

Mmm, more in tune to 400

418 to be exact :p

[lyric swift]

well if u want the M26 Pershing u must take the M4AE8 the tier 6 Sherman that is sucks

[boreal spruce]

m4a3 is a good tank, use the gun depp (12degrees) and it shines
likewise the T20 is good if you use the full gun depp.
my fav is the M46, its DPM is sublime,

[hard cedar]

T20 is just bad and m46 is kinda meh considering type 61 exists
Pershing will probably actually be good after 8.5

[silent light]

Need help

[boreal spruce]

whatwith? BC25T?

[silent light]

BatChat 25t tier 10

This is the match which 3 heavy and 3 tds in my team

[boreal spruce]

its always heavys and TD's now...😭

[silent light]

I just spot then do nothing much

I can not go alone and versus progetto

Be sneaky is a bad idea

[boreal spruce]

versing a med is annoying in the tank, if you have an enemy med try to spot him 1st then run back to your team, 👀

[silent light]

And my team is being died

FV 4005 get hit by Jag and died instantly, E 75 was bullied

Jag was too slow to help me

[boreal spruce]

dang, thats a tricky one, just try to get the DPM in, and the spots, if you're in a supremacy as a LT try to cap a base. otherwise in a batchat try to pick on lone enemy tanks.

[silent light]

And i lost 4 times in a row

Still 74 lost and 50 wins

I need to have 24 wins to get 50% 😭

[boreal spruce]

not much i can suggest apart from the usual 🙃
shoot and scoot, 🏃‍♂️
spot, 👓
pick on a td or heavy, 🦭
and always be on the move, 🚙

Good luck!👍
@silent light

[silent light]

Ok

[plucky summit]

Friendly reminder that you should stay on Blitz

Btw this is from 500m away

[boreal spruce]

nice!

[plucky summit]

Not nice, NOT NICE

[keen vault]

is action x better

[past fractal]

Looks like a big HE target for the mighty kv2

[onyx sluice]

Gib as Halloween tank.

[thorny smelt]

It is a camo from WOT PC

[solid gate]

what 900mm 😭

[rigid thunder]

the event was pretty fun though, it goes to show how much effort the team puts into events. Especially the art department

[thorny smelt]

I love the Ho-Ri Type III so much

[solid bear]

Omg its a1phapenguin sensei

[rigid thunder]

goodbye

[silent light]

Sad

I played foch 155 as a tds then push but realised that heavies died and only VK 7201K

How to carry team when this stituation like this ?

[thorny smelt]

Perhaps carry harder

[silent light]

I have no idea to carry team

I just like accept my death

[thorny smelt]

Sometimes you need to be self-reliant

[dusty spruce]

guys is cent7/1 worth selling for fv202?

[onyx sluice]

Just found out that my Tiger P can't pen the side armor of a 252u even when not angled.

[past fractal]

It can, but its a hard penetration to say the least

And there is a small angled 100 mm plate that autobounces everything

252 can angle easily vs Tiger P and it’d be impenetrable

Because tiger P has a very small gun it is possible to get absorbed by 252’s tracks even if it says a 100% penetration.

[onyx sluice]

Tried to aim just above the tracks but below the angled side armor, still didn't pen :(

The lower front plate is very troll too when the 252u angles it.

[silent light]

My BatChat winrates is still 40%

[twin ember]

Guys, should I use this tank, I heard that it's a broken tank, should I?

[onyx sluice]

Its one of the best tier 8s and you will do very well if you know how to position yourself and hull down.

[twin ember]

thx for ur advices

[mystic bobcat]

that trolly turret that can't be pierced by almost nothing and screens that eat HE for breakfast

only real problem - if you are flanked, you are dead, i killed a lot of Caernarvons that way

[true delta]

Guys, on the E50M, do I pick the extra armor or the extra HP?

[past fractal]

How to play E 75?

[drifting grove]

Sidescrape.

[mystic bobcat]

Just stand there slightly angled and laugh as your enemy bounces everything

I think E-75 can bounce even Maus falling on him from above

[silent light]

My BatChat winrates is getting worse

It has 91 loses and 60 wins😞

[lyric swift]

Well my Comet winrate is even worst

Like 50 victory and 30 or 20? Defeats its arround those

And wg is putting me into a tier 8 battle that is completely hard and full of brainless noobz

[drifting grove]

You have to sidescrape.
Unlike Tiger II, any HT or TD with a Tier X gun (and many of them at Tier VIII-X do have Tier X guns) can butter through your lower glacis without gold ammunition.

[lyric swift]

E-75 is basically a king Tiger with a different turret and higher hp

[drifting grove]

And lesser effective armour for its Tier.

[lyric swift]

And different gun

[drifting grove]

Better gun.
Top gun is really powerful.

[mystic bobcat]

funny, but i can pen KT easier than E-75 with the same gun

[lyric swift]

Is the Ru 251 a good LT?

[stuck needle]

bobject 268 v4 and t100lt in game from the apac grand final stream and rampanzer coming black friday

[earnest egret]

Yes yes, also will the v4 have the 400 gun like the 263?

[vocal igloo]

the 640 damage gun maybe..?

[earnest egret]

I've noticed from some pictures that the 268 is really more taller and more skinnier and the structure above the hull is more shorter, if the 268 will get a new model do you guys think this will be skinnier 268?

[scarlet kernel]

here the IRL version for reference

[lyric swift]

That picture is from Kubinka Tank Museum

Bcs that is the only place where u can see some Soviet tank Prototypes

[paper beacon]

anyone saw the new soviet lights coming out?

[onyx sluice]

I bet the 268v4 will be a collector and not a tech tree.

[muted frost]

MI-24

[paper beacon]

ah yes the famous attack helicopters that stormed the beaches of normandy

[fast compass]

bobject has been too legendarily broken to not take advantage of

[muted frost]

1 lost hind just joined the allies during invasion

[scarlet kernel]

could be a show idea

an attack helicopter found itself lost in the bermuda triangle, a portal opened up and transport it to an alternate time where the germans are winning. with a hatred of the nz and the power of the bermuda seas our heli will help the allied and return home safely

[thorny smelt]

Super Conqueror is more expensive than WZ-111 5A Q_Q

Also, Object 268 v4 is after Object 263 in WOT PC. So...there's no SU-122-54 which is Blitz exclusive.

[wise moth]

122-54 was removed from PC when the 268v4 was added

[thorny smelt]

It is sad though. Two Object 268s competing each other

[scarlet kernel]

since the game mechanics are way different in blitz, we still need to see for ourself if the 268 v4 is OP or not, last time i heard the turtle was "decent" in PC

[zealous anchor]

Hahaa

[plucky summit]

Coming back here with 5 pings was kinda scary

[onyx sluice]

Judging by how overbuffed the 263 is, I'm expecting the 268v4 to be worse.

[plucky summit]

I’m expecting a less effective gun in comparison to 268

Then some nice hull armor

Or a 263 with a 152mm 🤷‍♂️

[thorny smelt]

A rear-mounted gun Object 268

[slim sand]

This tank is coming with that Russian Lt line update... Its a LTG

[plucky summit]

Yeah I always hated that thing

[silent light]

Need help about BatChat 25t tier 10

[wise moth]

Avoid frontal fights whenever possible and play along the outskirts taking shots of opportunity until the late game when you can kill tanks below 930 HP. Also, don’t miss shots

[zealous anchor]

Try not to brawl, and use LT camo for spotting in rather aggressive positions, but also be careful. It's very mobile you can watch the situation and adapt accordingly like if you're losing med flank then run to heavies and spot the med flank passively for eg

[past crane]

What I don't get, is why the T-54 ltwt, LTTB, and MT-25 are not in the new light line, instead they are just alongside it. And furthermore, where is the Object 140? They better not remove it.

[zealous anchor]

I think they just missed it out, wargaming has been quite reluctant to remove tanks I think

[silent light]

Well, so if i am in a match, there is 2 enemy med tier 10 and my team has me and standar B so what i gonna do ?

[wise moth]

I wouldn’t completely trust that screenshot. My guess is that we’re only getting T-100 and Object 64 which will branch off the Ltwt, and everything else will remain the same.

Kind of like how when the Poles were announced, the Skoda T-25 pointed to the Swedish line

[wise moth]

Depends on how good your shooting is and how much you trust your standard B.

You could try and lure the enemy into a trap and kill one of them between you and the standard, or you have to just run away unless you get heavy support

[silent light]

He is camping like me

E 50 M and T 64A are aggressively push me so i decided to leave and help heavies

[slim sand]

This tank is never seen before on wot history and never seen before on Real History... Introducing Obj-84

[silent light]

Yay i can keep my T 54 ltwt

[zealous anchor]

Any tips for 62A lol I really hate it so much...140 is much better for me

[silent light]

i help heavies by shooting tds for them to push

[slim sand]

Btw heres the t-100 lt line

[silent light]

but heavies are in low health except tds which jag and tortoise

[wise moth]

Just play it like a 140, but with actual turret armor

[silent light]

How do you find this ? is it only teaser ?

[slim sand]

The T-100LT has 72km top speed kinda poggers

[silent light]

BatChat will be getting powercreep 😥 by other lts

[wise moth]

Just another sign that Bat Chat should be replaced with AMX 13 105 and changed into a medium tank

[slim sand]

Dude bc has autoloaders and has different playstyle

[past crane]

Well, I do think the Object 140 will still be in game, but how could WG not notice they added two mystery tanks to this LT line? If they're not intending to add two more vehicles to the T-100 LT line, how could they not spot a visual error that big?

[silent light]

Wait what ?

New information about Batchat

[zealous anchor]

Should it be buffed in some aspects if this is executed? Or would it be a nerf

[wise moth]

I don’t think so. I think he’s just trying to playoff blatant power creep by saying “batchat has a different playstyle”

[wise moth]

13 105 is basically the exact same tank as current Bat Chat, but smaller, and a smidge faster.

If Bat Chat were to be made a medium, it should also get a firepower increase, like a bigger magazine

[zealous anchor]

oh i see

[silent light]

Agree

[blissful hamlet]

It will probably be worse, but in compensation, better armor

[muted frost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STEnGnH-CA0

[solid gate]

im excited to be going down that line

pretty soon when i get my first tier X, it’ll be so much fun :D

[mild otter]

LTTB line ends, not connected to T-54

[fast compass]

That is just a graphic error. Ltwt will still connect to t54

[slim sand]

I heard they mentioned t54 ltwt will be moving to T-100Lt line... Or maybe its a bug

*Just watched the stream again and yes... T54 Ltwt is getting moved from Tier X med line to the Tier X Lights line

[past crane]

Well then, why has WG hinted there are other vehicles in the new branch? And what about our 140? This ss is obviously implying there are more new vehicles...

[fast compass]

The tech tree in the coming soon video is not final. And there were issues with the graphics. 140 is not being removed, ltwt will still lead to t54. Stop reading too much into it

[valid gale]

Also I’m pretty sure that implies the other are the unshowcased models in that video that precede the two…

[past crane]

Exactly. I know the 140 won’t be removed, but until we get concrete confirmation about what is coming, we can feel free to make assumptions.

[valid gale]

Nothing will happen to the 140

[rocky stirrup]

is super qonqueror worth it? thoughts about it im planning on buying it for 25k gold

[onyx sluice]

If you have the funds sure, its a very nice tank.

[drifting grove]

It's good, but the Chieftain is far better.

[winter rover]

Is the vk45.03 a good tank for 3.5k gold?

[valid gale]

Nope it’s a joke

[drifting grove]

It's so bad that I may consider it if it comes for free.

[hard cedar]

more like a playstyle preference
and vk45 got buffed so it's not trash anymore

[drifting grove]

That would be true if the S.Conq had a gun even close to the Chieftain's gun. Then you could pick between armour and mobility.
But the Super Conqueror's gun is worse than the post-nerf 215b's gun.
Its DPM is only slightly better than the 60TP's, but your alpha roll is 200 less.
It's also rather inaccurate for a Tier X 120mm gun with 400 alpha.

[winter rover]

Didn't they buff it?

[drifting grove]

They buffed a different Vk45, iirc.
Let me check.

[hard cedar]

It has 300 more dpm than the 60tp + the armor profile on the sconq is much better than the armor profile on the chieftain
and most ht guns are worse than post-nerf 215b gun so that doesn't say much

[drifting grove]

Stock 60TP gun has 2,400 DPM.
S.Conq has 2,500 stock.
It's inaccurate. Especially for a Tier X gun with 400 alpha.
It has a better armour profile than the Chief, obviously, but the worse gun means the Chief is far better because the Chief is also one of the most mobile heavy tanks in the game.

Super Conq isn't really bad - it's actually quite good - but the Chief is just far better.

[drifting grove]

Wait ,what?

Apparently, I misread something.

[hard cedar]

Yes, you did
Chief is just not far better
You can argue it's better but it's not "far better" both are around equal

[drifting grove]

Chief is much more mobile, which makes up for the lack of hull armour.
The difference in the gun makes the Chieftain Mk.6 significantly better.

[thick trout]

I'm just taking the stats from blitzstars with all equipment removed I don't know enough about the Skonk to say much but I'm surprised by how much worse the gun stats look compared to what I was expecting

[hard cedar]

The sconq has much more reliable armor than the chieftain

[drifting grove]

But the Chief is much more mobile.
So the gun is the main reason for the Chief being better.

[hard cedar]

It's not "much" more mobile, 6 km/h higher top speed and 1 higher p/w ratio

[drifting grove]

This is what a pro thinks about it:

[thick trout]

It's got about 15% better effective hp/t btw

Ew horrible borders

[hard cedar]

As you can see chief armor is less reliable especially if the e100 is running Cali which is probably should be

[drifting grove]

6 km/h, for a heavy tank, is a significant difference.
Chieftain also has noticably better acceleration because of its better HP/T.
Chief also has better traverse.
Also, like I said, the Chieftain's superior mobility compensates for the lack of armour.

[hard cedar]

If chieftains mobility compensates for lack of armor why doesn't sconq armor compensate for the lack of mobility

[drifting grove]

Haven't you literally just been telling me how the S.Conq's armour is better?

[hard cedar]

yes but you seem to just complain about how slow it is

[drifting grove]

If you ignore the gun, and take just armour and mobility into account, both tanks are equally good.
Chief has the mobility, while the S.Conq has the armour.
But since the gun is also a part of the tank, we have to consider that too, and the Chieftain Mk.6's gun is far better than the S.Conq's.
It's more accurate and has much more DPM.
So overall, the Chieftain Mk.6 is significantly better, just because it has a better gun.

At the same time, there is no denying that the Super Conqueror is still a rather good tank.

[violet timber]

The Mk. 6 has a significant armor weakness, the skonk does not. In a hull down meta, the skonk is better due to the ability to actually hold the line if the enemy pushes. The Mk. 6 is much more a med than a heavy, and it can’t reliably hold the line

Skonk also gets a better premium round letting it handle better armored targets easier

[manic carbon]

They are both good, just at different things and either tank sacrifices something to have that speciality.

[violet timber]

It’s mainly a play style thing, but I think overall the skonk is better

[coral mango]

Sus🤣

[wary wing]

can progetto 65 use normal ap shell?

[hard cedar]

No

[wary wing]

so you're forced to buy prammo?

[hard cedar]

No, apcr is the standard shell, heat is the prammo

[wary wing]

didn't know about that, thanks

[hard cedar]

Np

[violet timber]

Prog supremacy

[wispy thunder]

So im a fairly new player (under 1k battles) and i was wondering between the progetto, and the action x blitz cup premiums, which would be friendlier to someone still learning the game

[violet timber]

Probably either the AX or Cent 5/1

[plucky summit]

Just AX, heavy meta <3

[fast compass]

We good?

[hearty wren]

a light tank i made, has a 57 mm main gun, two 30.cals, and a 50.cal, so essentially a Ke Ho with some sherman bits

[mild lily]

should i buy the T-54 or rebuy vickers CR?

[violet timber]

Vickers

[hearty wren]

you should buy the Su-76 or Marder

[mild lily]

I don't have enought gold :)

[hearty wren]

also made pak wagon boat

[violet timber]

Get sprocket 😉

[sacred karma]

Anyone Know how to use a Jagdtiger Effectively
Cause I'm on the Jpanther ll right now and almost have the gun
Just need to know if it's worth the effort to get it

[violet timber]

Basically hide the lower plate and dpm

[wise moth]

Pretty much that. Catch people out of position and shred through them

[sacred karma]

Nice, thanks Comrades ✌

[nimble owl]

is supr conq worth the 20k gold when i have cheiftain already?

[violet timber]

It's not worth it unless it gets down to about 15k

[warm pumice]

today i got tiger p and my vicotory % came down to 65 or 68 from 76
i lose everytime cuz of team
i get 2k damage or the highest one but still i lose
can anyone help

[delicate sluice]

Super Conq with right equipment, has the same dispersion as the E5 and similiar aim time due to much better on movement dispersion

The accuracy is very comparable to that of an E5, which has a reliable gun

[thick trout]

Erm no

[scarlet kernel]

Super conqueor is basically the titan version of the mk. 6
Sacrifice gun and mobility for armor

[analog silo]

All 3 are top meta tanks. You genuinely can’t make a bad choice. AX and 5/1 both have strong turrets and gun depression, so learning hull down positions and farming will print money for you. Of the two AX has more hp and DPM and is therefore more resistant to getting rushed and can punish harder. So AX is the best choice for a newbie.

[worn skiff]

Keep dealing damage. As for lots of damage and no wins frequently, think about your positioning. Are you sitting at the back in your tiger p or actually taking some hits as a heavy? Also a big factor to damage without wins is that you don’t clear enemies. You’ll run into situations where you can either shoot another high damage shot on a full health enemy or kill a super low health enemy. Any enemy still alive is another gun that can hurt your team so it may be better to take the low damage shot and kill that enemy

[analog silo]

If your winrate is moving that much you must have a pretty darn low battle count. Which makes it probable the 76% win rate is a statistical anomaly detached from skill. The top 0.001% of players barely maintain wins like that. I would expect you to win 76% of the time in a tier 7 heavy with 2.5-3k average damage and 2 kpb or 2k and 1.5 kpb with an equally skilled platoon mate. And I don’t mean hit 2.5k, I mean average it. There are very few people here who could tell you the secret of a 60%+ winrate anyway.

To put this in perspective, the current top player (30 days) in the tiger p does 2600 damage per battle and wins 61% of the time.

[violet timber]

Accuracy and positioning are the two things that will help you win games

[willow seal]

I'd argue that accuracy isn't even that important if your positioning is on point. Catching someone off guard and having his broadside free to farm is way more important than having good aiming skill in wot.

[willow seal]

61% for 2.6k in T7? That sounds off tbh.
I'm averaging 65-70% in T7 heavies with ~2k avg per game.

[violet timber]

Accuracy = damage = winz

[delicate sluice]

With refined gun it has the same dispersion you're not running the correct equipment

[thick trout]

But then you can put equipment on the E5 to make that better 🤦‍♀️

[delicate sluice]

Then you have a worse overall aim time

[violet timber]

Let’s just say… no

[thick trout]

^^^

[hidden mortar]

They are finally adding T-100-LT

[delicate sluice]

The Super Conq blooms a lot less on the move = aim time is overall much less relative to other heavies

[hidden mortar]

They should add the Object 705

[delicate sluice]

Relative to its fixed "aim time"

[delicate sluice]

Too many russian tanks:/

[hidden mortar]

Well it is a Russian game after all

[thick trout]

It has awful aim time for its class but good bloom which could almost make up for it's bad dispersion if it wasn't a tank made to hold a position and so it gets to aim every shot instead of having to snapshot

[delicate sluice]

Well yeah

[analog silo]

The all time best tiger p player pulled 76% win rate with 3,194 average damage.

@willow seal Agreed. But for 70%+ my call of 2.5-3k holds up. Given that tiger P is slow and has low alpha it likely needs more damage anyway.

[delicate sluice]

They need to add the rheinmetall panzerkampfwagen

[willow seal]

2.5k for ~70% in a t7 HT sounds about right.
Don't know how much alpha impacts WR tho. I just checked my tanks and my low alpha tanks, namely BP and both Tigers have ~60% with 1.6k dmg but the last time I played them the LoLtractor still existed so ye, can't really use their stats..

[copper topaz]

nerf t28 "pog" please (I mean T-28 prot)

[violet timber]

I'm sorry, you want to nerf it?

Are you sure you don't mean buff?

[copper topaz]

yeah front armor too strong

[violet timber]

Lmaooooooo, wow. The IS-3, known for having very average pen at 225, can go through the entire front. The armor is a joke, the speed is pitiful, and the gun isn't even that good. It is literally the worst tank tier for tier in the game

All tier 8 tds go right through, most tier 8 heavies can go through at least the cheeks easily, lights can circle this thing or just press 2, meds can circle or just press 2. It can't do anything against a tank that's relatively mobile, the turret isn't even fully traversable, and did I mention that the mobility sucks?

[rigid thunder]

tell me you have a skill issue without telling me

[past crane]

Then how come, in my top E 75, aiming slightly down on a T28, can find it hard to pen? You do realize it’s armor was buffed in 8.0 massively.

[rigid thunder]

yeah because with an E75's 128 with 246mm of pen, you are clearly unable to pen the T28 prototype's 220mm thick frontal plate
I have no idea how on earth you can even manage that, but if you seriously experience that issue you need to try aiming at its very obvious weakspots

[copper swan]

aim the hatch on T28

[onyx sluice]

I'm pretty the E75 will even pen through the gun mantlet.

[warm pumice]

ok guys thanks fos advice @analog silo @violet timber @worn skiff

[past crane]

This was the angle I was at. You can’t deny the armor is better now than it was. Not trying to say it’s a great tank, but more playable now than it used to be. I’d say slightly buff those hatches.

[onyx sluice]

That is not the T28 prototype.

[past crane]

I thought we were taking about the T28?

Oh I see now, my bad!

[past fractal]

IS-3 has above average AP pen for its tier. 225 mm is quite a big number

[thorny smelt]

AMX M4 49 with 232 mm pen on Gun Rammer and 242 mm on CS: Ahem

[onyx sluice]

Not really almost all heavies now have atleast around 220 pen at tier 8.

[unreal lotus]

the skoda t25 isnt a true medium

[silent light]

I am so bad

[blissful hamlet]

Isn't good armored, but the autoloader is really good

[past fractal]

Why is the apcr pen so bad ;—;

[silent light]

Maybe Maus is a defensive tank.

[blissful hamlet]

311 isn't so bad, just use cs

[hard cedar]

it is pretty bad

[violet timber]

Enough for E100 turret

[dusty dawn]

122 or 85 for KV-1s?

[thorny smelt]

122 is the best

[solid gate]

Is that Super Conqueror worth of 20000 gold?

[finite marten]

Did somebody ping me?

[fair path]

Grille 15 or Jg Pz E 100 ?

[strange geode]

Grille

[fair path]

any reason why? 😄

[stark goblet]

The MS-1 can pen the grille, get jg pz

[fair path]

i dont mind the squishyness, looking for the most dps

[stark goblet]

Would you rather not be penned by a tier 2 while in a tier 10 or would you rather be safe from a tier 2

[strange thicket]

that is a stupid thing to look at

[strange thicket]

depends on your playstyle
they both can do 2nd line
but jgpze100 requires less attention to your surroundings and is generally easier to play.
however grille 15 is more flexible and can snipe when things aren't too good, also packs a great gun(aimtime).

[fair path]

yeah was thinking the same, thanks for clearing it up 🙂

[worn skiff]

Anyone know off the top of their head what the top 3 or top 5 tanks are in terms of standard penetration?

[drifting grove]

Fv215b(183) - 310mm
That's all I remember.
I'm sure the Jagdpanzer E100 and the Object 268 are 2nd and 3rd, but I don't remember their penetration values.

[worn skiff]

Thanks

[hard cedar]

Hori has 310

[silent light]

After taking somebody suggestion, my Batchat still losed although i always did very high damage 😭

[hard cedar]

I doubt you get very high damage every game and lose every game

[silent light]

Want some proofs ?

[hard cedar]

I could just look at blitzstars

[drifting grove]

How much do you consider to be 'high damage'?
At Tier X, I'd say that is 2,500-3,000, at least.

[hard cedar]

That's not high at all
At least, not high enough to be expecting a win every game

[silent light]

Oh ok

[drifting grove]

Ahh, okay.

[drifting grove]

If you want 80% WR, I'd say 4k average?

[willow seal]

3000-3500 at T10 should be average tbh. High would be like 4-5k

[silent light]

@drifting grove @hard cedar here.

[silent light]

Actually, you are right sometimes

I did 338 damage, 1288 damage then died...

Mostly, i couldn't manage escaping.

[drifting grove]

2.5k should be average.
3k decent.
4k+ high.

[violet timber]

BatChat isn’t a good tank to carry in anyways, it’s soft and realistically dependent on a team that can deal damage

[silent light]

Can AmX 50 B ?

[violet timber]

Sort of, though the long clip reload does limit it’s carrying ability

[drifting grove]

It's a second-line heavy.
It can do good damage, but not really go frontline. Same for the T57 Heavy.

[silent light]

Guess i am a bad player ☹️ ☹️ ☹️

[willow seal]

2.5k is Average in T9s and some 8s.
Below 3k avg in T10 and I don't feel like I'm contributing

The again some 10s suck at dealing damage and win through different means. Like my Maus has 2.6k but 60% WR just by being a pain to kill

[drifting grove]

You can always inprove!

[silent light]

Well, i gonna get E 100 and Kravan then

These boi are sick when they are in right owner

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/so-slow-buffering-loading-steady-slow-moving-gif-14382934

[violet timber]

Better accuracy and better positioning are the two main things that will win games

[hard cedar]

I can see your blitzstars, you did 1.9k avg in your bc today, if you want to win you'll have to do a lot more

[silent light]

Kravan can use speed boost but E 100 i will wait for my tonk to go right position

[violet timber]

Don’t look at my blitz stars

[drifting grove]

I see.
I'm currently trying to maintain a 2.5k average.
I'm aimimg to average 3k.
I often do 3,000+, but I do have some bad battles that bring the average down.

[violet timber]

<@&481447501690568709>

[hard cedar]

Unfortunately 80% isn't really possible just because of random mm, like 25-30% of the time you'll get bad teams that's why most players top out at 70-75%

[drifting grove]

<@&481447501690568709> Free nitro, chaps?

[violet timber]

Speak for yourself, I get 110% wr

[hard cedar]

Smh not even 120 what a noob

[thick trout]

80% is just about doable solo but you need the right tank or to be incredibly good

[silent light]

I play WZ 120 very well

[drifting grove]

Kran was too slow for my liking.
I actually sold it.

[silent light]

I just hate emil 1

[violet timber]

Kran is rather good

[thick trout]

You also need to play exclusively for wins not damage which most players at that level don't go for

[drifting grove]

Powerful, I know.
Just not my type.

[silent light]

60TP ? @drifting grove

[violet timber]

Makes sense. I can struggle in super heavies just because I’m a light tank player so I like to be aggressive

[drifting grove]

Yes, that's good.
It's much faster.
I'm actually going to grind for it once I get the Action X to grind credits.

[silent light]

I enjoy being slow, chill and said why to med and lt

[violet timber]

I enjoy bullying with superior mobility and useable turrets, hence why the 30B is my favorite tier 10 med

[silent light]

I realised that i am fit for slow, heavy and td...

[drifting grove]

Go for the E100.
Not only is the Kran slow, it also has to find good hulldown spots.
Also, it has rubbish DPM.

[hard cedar]

Eh not rlly, 80% is probably doable in a toon though

[silent light]

I have E 75, emil 2

[drifting grove]

Jagdpanzer E100.
Ez.

[silent light]

I grinded foch 155... still love this boi

FV 183 ?

AT line can be painful but i still play them... ( i had got tortoise but i sold it for credits )

[drifting grove]

Inaccurate.
No armour.
No DPM.
Too team-reliant.

[silent light]

I mostly want to play heavies because my heavy team are unintelligent so i decided to carry those bad boi.

By playing heavies ( my heavies have insanely high winrate )

EMIL 2 have 69%, and E 75 have 51%

[thorny smelt]

Try the Ho-Ri

[silent light]

Ehhhhhhhhhhh

[lyric copper]

wouldn’t call 51 high

[silent light]

I have grinded whole japanese med but ok 😄

[rigid thunder]

well high in his way maybe

[silent light]

I am currently grinding T28 prototype

[lyric copper]

save free exp for the T30’s top modules

[silent light]

51 000 exp

[thorny smelt]

You might find home with Ho-Ri Type II because it is slow

[drifting grove]

Worth it.

[mossy escarp]

What’s better, Russian meds or Chinese meds?

[silent light]

I won't sell my foch and Batchat because i have played french line for 3 years

[silent light]

Russian have decent gun, armour and mobility. Chinese have good mobility and high alpha gun, a super thick head

[lyric copper]

depends on what you want

all rounders? Get Russian

Peekaboo MT gods? WZ-121

[fast compass]

I am honestly going to say Chinese. The entire line is one of the strongest meds tier for tier from tier 7

[mossy escarp]

These seem very similar but I don’t wanna get the obj140 and t62 and be like everyone else

[drifting grove]

Get Fv4202 and spam HESH.

[mossy escarp]

I have it and it’s trash

[lyric copper]

the 121 is not a bad choice for tier X

it’s alpha lets it trade with every other tier X MT with ease

add the fact that it has a strong turret

@mossy escarp no it’s not

[mossy escarp]

hesh is strong but the armor is terrible, it’s the 1st t10 I got and I hate playing it

[drifting grove]

It most certainly isn't!

[silent light]

I may create an alt account

[mossy escarp]

The turret is weaker than soggy paper bro it’s so aids to play

[lyric copper]

the FV4202 is like Liam Neeson

it has a particular set of skills that makes life hell for people tanks like light tanks

trust, me, utilising the HESH anywhere you can is imperative to getting good games

[silent light]

To have a new life after doing my goal in my main.

[drifting grove]

Also it's rare.
WN8 and Ace farm.

[silent light]

@drifting grove is Jagpanzer tier 10 good ? I saw a lots of players always missed

I means they always missed their shoot

[drifting grove]

From what I've seen, the STB-1 is quite strong.
Idk about the rest of that techtree.
Wait, is it the STB or STA?

[silent light]

StB

[drifting grove]

Ahh, okay.

[silent light]

You answered wrong my question but ok

[lyric copper]

Type 61 is great if you know how to use it

[silent light]

I love it but team is shit...

[drifting grove]

Ooh, I misread it as 'Japanese'
I'm stupid XD.

[lyric copper]

and before the equipment changes the Chi-To was actually good with rammer, vents and GLD

5s reload gave it absurd dpm

[silent light]

If i am in a right position, i can pew pew and make a lots of damaged and get first class

[drifting grove]

Jageroo can be strong, but it's rather inaccurate.
And sloooowww.

[silent light]

Welp, i won't buy provision for mobilty and i will buy some support modules for aim and accurate

[lyric copper]

wouldn’t call .336 base inaccurate

hellish aimtime however

[drifting grove]

Still inaccurate.
Dispersion may be good, but the aim time makes it inaccurate.

[silent light]

If i missed a shot, i just say bruh...

I just accept the missed shoot and go on

[drifting grove]

Also, massive target that is basically a piñata for gold shells.

[lyric copper]

it’s better than the 183 tho

actual armour that either needs precise aim or prammo to be penned, and a far more reliable gun

[silent light]

Me who shoot jangeroo and kill it

With my BatChat to send them to hell

[thorny smelt]

E 50M's legendary skin looks like a skin disease

And..... I killed the chat....

[shut wren]

I, the tank tier is still low, be like:😐

[silent light]

Me who drive slow tank and enjoy watching my team is being died

🙂

[thorny smelt]

I suffered so much with SU-152's slow mobility, and SU-100M1's, AMX AC 46's, and Jagdpanther II's weak casemate. I forget the St. Emil because of the same reason as the SU-152 and everything else mentioned. Ho-Ri is my last choice and everything goes right once and for all.

[silent light]

SU 152 ? I actually like it

I just sit in a bush and then wait or watch my teammate are being died

Shoot some HEAT at heavies and retreat

[thorny smelt]

The ISU-152's BL-10 gun is what makes me gravitated towards it but I don't want to relive the nightmare of playing the SU-152 with any of the guns available. Mostly a skill issue for short. Ho-Ri is my saving grace and raises up my WR for almost 3 days.

[silent light]

I improve su 152 winrates effectively

It has 48% winrates

T28 prototype winrate is around 49% and 50 %

[thorny smelt]

I guess we get to feel comfortable with the tanks that we feel like we can make us skilled and better chances of winning.

My tier 8 and 9 Ho-Ris are at 60-70% WR range.

[silent light]

I like to play BatChat and T 54 ltwt ( i used this boi as bait who lead enemies to the defeat )

Really, Progetto 46, Lowe, Su 122 54 chased me but without them enemy heavies are being pushed by my team

[thorny smelt]

I have to play them more often and see if there is some changes on my stats.

[junior pawn]

Any tip on Getting a lot of credit on tier 6 match ? I use Sherman firefly

[analog silo]

It isn’t “meta” but it is good. The gun is pretty reliable, especially if you get close. And the armor and HP let you get close and lock a lane. As long as you work to not get flanked you can print damage.

[full cargo]

Is M48 Patton good?

[wind burrow]

Guys I already have Action X - Chemira - M4A1 rev ..... which one to choose progetto or centurion RAAC ?

[lofty acorn]

raac is a medium version of the action x. the progetto is a very unique tank with its super strong auto reloading gun. once you master the auto reloader the progetto can be ridiculously strong.

[analog silo]

Prog is Pog

[violet timber]

“Weak” casemate.

[analog silo]

Jag2 is a massive pain in the butt to dig out of a good position, they just gotta bump the front up a smidge and wiggle. Basically immune to anything with less than 280 pen iirc.

[violet timber]

Hull down baby

[brave night]

The real problem is finding a position to go hulldown with

[violet timber]

True, but get hull down and even ISU has an rng fest with getting through

[analog silo]

What’s the effective upper plate like that?

[violet timber]

ISU can’t pen the casemate with prammo either, only the mantlet

[nova stirrup]

is amx defender strong?

[analog silo]

It is eh, just get 13 90 for free

[wise moth]

I generally don't like the expectation of using gun depression to show the strength of armor, because it's often unrealistic. The JPanther II has a strong casemate, but you're probably not getting that tall of a turretless tank with a rear mounted gun into a position to use the gun depression and be hulldown. It'd be a challenge just to find a position like that in a training room, let alone a battle

[violet timber]

It only needs about 2 degrees or so to bounce ISU on the casemate

[strange thicket]

Provided you can get a position to do that and also hide the hull

[violet timber]

2 degrees is easy to get to and there's plenty of places to do it

[strange thicket]

Sure thing Lol.

[analog silo]

I didn’t have a hard time with the jag2 when I played it. And the fact remains if it had less armor it would still be good because speed + gun

[strange thicket]

I am not saying the tank ain't good
But thinking you can reliably hull down in it is ridiculous

[scarlet kernel]

The tank is made for hull down and it is great, there are so many places for it.

[solid gate]

What's the general consensus on the t23e3? I have enough gold and am considering it

[violet timber]

Meh

[solid gate]

Meh isn't worth 4k gold

[scarlet kernel]

But anyway!
I have come with another IDEA

A prem/collectible tank series called "clown" Or maybe "jester"

Tanks in this series are made up from stupid ideas and is made for april fools
Ex. T28 prototype but with the extra side tracks like the T95 and call it the "T95/28 prot."

[violet timber]

So a T95 with a turret?

[solid gate]

T95 with s t y l e

[scarlet kernel]

y e s

Honestly im suprised noone got a cursed artwork of it yet

[thorny smelt]

I can still play this tank properly and as it is intended, as a sniper, and I'm referring to the lower part of its casemate because it is weak as soft cheese being based on Panther II's hull. The gun mantlet is strong, no question, but the hull is a different story.

[violet timber]

That's not the casemate, that's the hull.

[thorny smelt]

The gun depression itself is very depressing (pun intended but I feel it). The only redeeming characterisitic is speed and good DPM. The tank is VERY situational and a good cover is a must to hide the weak hull.

[thorny smelt]

But yeah. It is weak as soft cheese. I really need a good cover to hide the hull or position very far behind the map, and go rush when there are a few enemies left and/or their HPs are low.

[violet timber]

Just hide the hull and you bounce, it's pretty easy to do

[thorny smelt]

But it depends on the map I'm in. Like I said, I played it as a sniper and whatever reason I do with JPanther II.

I paused the Jageroo line and go for Ho-Ri line instead and finished it first.

[violet timber]

Snipers unfortunately tend to be less effective than 2nd line support

[thorny smelt]

I snipe LOL. But seriously, I only snipe when it is a tank destroyer. I have some good aiming skills so I don't have to worry about going towards the hottest area of the map.

[violet timber]

You still have to wait for enemies to give you opportunities instead of making your own

[thorny smelt]

Then I'll reposition.

I'm also thinking of reviving the lines that I also paused aside from the Jageroo line. KV-4 is good, at least for me, with its high penetrating 107 mm Zis-24 gun because it reminds me of KV-5 of similar 107 mm Zis gun.

[violet timber]

I ran through the KV-4 without the 107 because I didn't feel like getting it

[thorny smelt]

I like high pen guns. Also, I'm quite ready to get ST-I once the XP is enough. I unlocked the BL-9 gun via IS-3.

[violet timber]

I grinded ST-I stock, it's good you have the BL-9

[thorny smelt]

I don't like the IS-3 TBH. The hull is quite weak than my IS-5. Q_Q They need to buff it to make it playable.

[violet timber]

It's a perfectly fine tank considering the turret is impenetrable from the front

[thorny smelt]

Hmmmm.... I'll reconsider that line again. I guess I like armored heavies.