vehicles-discussion

[brisk bolt]

King of copulas

[buoyant musk]

Grinding the YOH Line

after grinding it what should I go for
Vickers line or FV4205 line

[soft remnant]

wtf is an fv4205

[analog silo]

its the 4005 with HESH

hot take: T-34-2 > WZ-120-1G FT because side hugging wins games

[junior pawn]

Guys, is the kpfpz 70 any good for the rating battle ?

[solid gate]

Decent.

[hard cedar]

Meh better options

[analog silo]

50tp prot is a better option

[lyric swift]

Well i better say is the ST-I bcs its the part of heavily armored IS-4 line

[snow gull]

So is the Panther II a good tank for the medium that it is?

[onyx sluice]

Its decent.

[pallid moss]

which nation is good in TDs??

[drifting grove]

Germany, USA and USSR have two decent TD lines each.
The British Fv4005 line is also good.

[hasty summit]

which gun to use on arl44?

.

[scarlet kernel]

is it just me or the battle of somne camo would look much better without those black dots thing

[scarlet kernel]

the 90mm one, used to be really good

[hasty summit]

aight

[solid gate]

The tier VIII gun one sacrifice your 85 damage for 200 penetration is worth it

Basically you dont even need to use APCR

[hasty summit]

sounds great, thanks

i just want to use it in tournaments, but wasn't sure which one to take

[drifting grove]

85mm dominates tourneys.

[solid gate]

Oh yes trust me you'll win unless if your teammates is bad

[thorny smelt]

90 mm DCA 45. The best gun you can get.

[spark basin]

how many charms do you need to get a lt 432 without being lucky

[scarlet kernel]

around 25 iirc

[pallid moss]

im gonna unlock my first T7,
any suggestions on KV3 or IS???

[drifting grove]

IS

[spark basin]

its the same then

[lyric swift]

I think its the IS bcs it has good mobility instead of KV-3 bcs of heavy armor but lacks of speed and u need to do sidescrape in order to play that (for KV-3)

[onyx sluice]

KV-3.

[lyric swift]

So which tier 8 tank should i buy?

[rugged cairn]

Which is better on the Russian tank line I’m new Kv-1 or t-34

[lyric swift]

T-34

[onyx sluice]

If you are new play the heavy tanks, go for the KV-1 and then the KV-1S.

[lyric swift]

But the option is up to you what tank u will take so its up to, but if u asked me i can tell u better take T-34 a good soviet medium tank and its easy to play

[old hemlock]

Yeah never thought of that, but yeah I started out on kv1 line and it really builds a basic fundamental for other heavy tanks you get in the future

[drifting grove]

Does the 50TP not have a good credit coefficient?
I want to know as I need the gold for a good credit-earning heavy tank, and if the 50TP only has a similar coefficient to Tech Tree Tier IXs, I'll sell it.

[thorny smelt]

Collector's vehicle's credit coefficient are lower than premium tanks but higher than tech tree tanks.

[hard cedar]

^ not necessarily

[hasty summit]

Can I buy 50tp for gold then sell it again for 5k gold?

sry for asking everywhere but i'm f2p and wanna know

[onyx sluice]

You can sell collector tanks for gold but I have no idea how much you'll get for the 50tp proto.

[analog silo]

it sells for 5k. But it is way, way better than anything you could get for 5k

[analog silo]

I'd personally (and did) get KV-1 first. It is very forgiving.

[plucky summit]

KV-1 is terrible, especially compared to its former self

[analog silo]

It is still a tricky pen with decent hp and still has the f-30, compared to the T-34 a newbie could make more silver. And if you're asking which tier 5 to get, you probably need silver more than anything. Now obviously the actual correct choice is T1 heavy. But that wasn't the question.

[violet timber]

Tricky pen? Not really, the armor is not what it once was.

[analog silo]

I don't mean its a vk 100, more of an IS. You can't really get safe, but people can't auto aim you.

[violet timber]

If they can get to your sides they can auto aim you, the front isn't much better either

[drifting grove]

So it isn't a good credit grinder?
Because some collectors have identical credit cofficients to premiums.

[onyx sluice]

Tier 9 and 10 generally aren't good credit grinders no matter the credit coefficient.

[hard cedar]

tier 9 premium moment

[drifting grove]

Not really. Chief Mk.6? 140% and brings in a lot.

[solid gate]

What is the best possible credit grinder tank i can buy now?

[violet timber]

At this current moment? Prog 46

[solid gate]

It has sooo low armour tho

[hard cedar]

mk6 doesn't make as much credits as t8 prems

[solid gate]

So T26E4 isnt good?

[onyx sluice]

Löwe.

[hard cedar]

no def not

[violet timber]

Hahaha no, it has a high credit coef but can't perform as well as the prog

[solid gate]

Can i buy that rn?

[hard cedar]

no you'll have to wait for an offer to come into shop

[violet timber]

Lowe isn't available right now, otherwise I'd say that

[solid gate]

So its better for money but if u do well with the prog 46 its ALOT better?

[violet timber]

Prog 46 is overall better

[onyx sluice]

Yes.

[hard cedar]

(no)

[solid gate]

Where? I dont see it nowhere

[violet timber]

If you can buy the Lowe right now I'd love to see where

[onyx sluice]

Just go in the premium shop and press the tank icon.

[hard cedar]

You cannot buy lowe rn he's mistaken
It seems that he hasn't played the game after 8.3

[hollow notch]

Avoid the t26e4 until it gets a significant buff.
The t26e4 is average for a tier 7...

[solid gate]

So prog 46 and löwe the best? (Not löwe rn but when it comes out?)

[violet timber]

?????

[solid gate]

Kinda wanna buy T26E4 just cuz of 30 days premium and that, i alr got 3 months premium but still still lol

[violet timber]

If you want credits the prog will be better in the long term

[hollow notch]

Wait for a different tank to be attached to that bundle

[solid gate]

How long is that? lol

[hard cedar]

probably a month or so

[hollow notch]

Nah, soon. The SP is gone in 1 day

[violet timber]

Good riddance

[hard cedar]

a new tank offer yes, but the bundles with 30d premium come like once a month or so

[onyx sluice]

NVM. I was wrong, I apologize.

[violet timber]

All good

[hollow notch]

Imagine being wrong.
Smh what a noob

[spiral garnet]

Is someone playing da Foch tier VIII ? Need some help about how to act in battle.

[jolly cargo]

Need people’s opinions on T-54 is it any good??

[solid gate]

The gun has terrible penetration without gold so run calibrated shells, it’s good other than that although not op like it was when time began (use the gun that leads to obj 140)
Quite mobile and good turret against tier 9-8 (not most tds)

[jolly cargo]

Thanks mate appreciate it,also what’s your opinions on the E100 I’m close to getting it but don’t know wether to spend the silver most videos I’ve seen say it’s good

[solid gate]

E100 is one of the best tier 10 tank right now, the armour is worse than E75 tier for tier but the gun has the highest alpha damage at tier 10 and the tank has almost 3000hp with equipment

[violet timber]

It doesn't have the highest alpha at tier 10. The entire turret is a bit of a weakspot, but angling does help

[solid gate]

For a heavy it has the highest alpha

[drifting grove]

Still makes a lot.
But that's because its cc is 145%. Most Tier VIIIs have 160+%. Still, that is as much as the Pudel and I'm perfectly fine with an income rate of that.
@solid gate True. For heavies, the E100 has the highest damage per hit, but the overall winner is the Fv215b (183).

[solid gate]

True but E100 can out trade it with AP on both due to the higher health pool (both can take 3-4 but E-100 can reload faster, not a good idea to trade fv in any tank though)

[hard cedar]

Just don't play any T10 premium or not if you actually want credits

[violet timber]

They can both trade, the FV just has to hide. It's not a good idea to trade with anything that has a higher alpha than you do, even if they have 33% less hp

[boreal spruce]

yep, personally the E100 is very nice, it can carry more than the Maus. but it is ugly IMO even with PBR 🤪

👍

[real plover]

T26E5 is better than SP change my mind

[kind falcon]

Nobody is going to change your mind on factual information

[violet timber]

Spershing is just bad lol

[kind falcon]

Super pershing makes you feel good when you do well in it though

[violet timber]

It also looks pretty cool, but that’s about all the tank has going for it

[kind falcon]

Speaking of that, anyone else play the Kpf purely because of how awesome it looks and then do zero damage because you were too busy admiring its beauty

[violet timber]

I will admit I am guilty of this

[kind falcon]

Kpf with PBR 🥵

[violet timber]

I also like playing what’s basically a slower T49 with armor

[radiant coral]

Shh it’s underrated
Let it stay in the shadow so WG don’t touch it

[kind falcon]

kpf needs 1 more degree of gun depression

[radiant coral]

It’s soooo low to the ground, no need tho-

What it does need is the hydropneumatic suspension

[kind falcon]

If they give it PBR model and 40 more HE damage I will never play another tank than kpf

also hydropneumatic suspension should be added with Strv 103 first

[radiant coral]

Ofc
But why the HE buff suggestion ?
It’s a decent 152mm

[hollow notch]

The he alpha is pathetic

Standard=560
HE=640

[kind falcon]

640 is nothing for an HE of 152mm it makes it not worth shooting with all the spall liner tanks running around

[radiant coral]

Do i have to mention when it was first released how ridiculous strong it was only because of the gun ?

[kind falcon]

Just giving it a bit more HE alpha or an extra degree of gun depression wont make it ridiculously strong but it will make it much more enjoyable

[hollow notch]

Ridiculously strong? No
It was just average.

[radiant coral]

Wasn’t the HE on it the strongest thing iirc -

[velvet dagger]

So, what’s the credit coeffiency of the T-22 medium compared to the T95E6 and the Chieftain Mk. 6?

[hollow notch]

Bad

[plucky summit]

81% vs 150% and 140%

[velvet dagger]

Well then

[plucky summit]

I mean if you play tier 10 to grind credits, you're doing it wrong :)

[violet timber]

I use the STA to grind credits

[plucky summit]

You know what I use

[violet timber]

Lowe

[plucky summit]

=)
Perhaps

[solid gate]

All I gotta say is...
Don't give a vehicle bad depression if it's designed to reverse sidescrape

[supple birch]

Which one should I save to get right now I’ve got a cruiser mark 3

[hard cedar]

Matilda

[solid gate]

(Assuming you're new) Matilda

[hard cedar]

(whether you're new or not) matilda
alecto line 🤢

[quaint jetty]

Which to get first when update drops, Kran, TVP, or 60tp? Already got the progetto

[lyric swift]

Its all up to you but if u are a new player u should take the Matilda

[paper star]

what should i spend the free XP for:IS-3 or tiger II

[supple birch]

Alright thank you

[gusty dew]

Is 3 is, in my experince, quite hard, tiger 2 all round better. Simpler armour.

Get tiger 2. It's got way better armour than the IS 3.

[paper star]

thanks 🙂

[solid gate]

Tiger II
I'm dying on IS3 line
I just see IS7 as a good payoff

[lyric swift]

Well Tiger II has better armor at tier 7 battle and might can be a death sentence to any tier 7 vehicles

[gusty dew]

You're welcome.

[gusty dew]

You forget tier 8s. Tier 8s also cannot pen Tiger 2. Even tier 9s have a hard time.

[lyric swift]

On sniping mode u canylt still even pen

[hard cedar]

tier 8s and 9s can easily can a tiger 2 generally speaking, only a few t8s struggle

[lyric swift]

So not all tier 8s

[hard cedar]

only a few mediums/lights can't pen

[copper swan]

cupola lower glacis

[hard cedar]

lower glacis plate on the tiger 2 is stronger than the upper glacis plate

[lyric swift]

Well the Germans reinforced the main weakness of that tank

[thorny smelt]

It's a gold shell magnet until the turret is turned sideways then shoot the turret instead. The cupola may be smaller than that of VK 100.01 P's but you need some good aiming and hopes from RNG gods to pen it.

[viral echo]

wtf is this tank even clasified as a ht

[lyric swift]

Well it looks like have a paper thin armored

[viral echo]

yes

[lyric swift]

Well i just need to use HE shell to kill that

[viral echo]

the front is frcken only 100 mm

[lyric swift]

Well a SU-152 can pen that with np

[viral echo]

yeah

[lyric swift]

Instead of using AP or HEATs use HE and rely on luck

[celest topaz]

Smasher can one shot su 152 if had luck with full he damage or fire

[lyric swift]

Yes it is can pen that and one shot

is the Smasher should be nerved?

Like increased the rld time to 60 seconds

[viral echo]

nah, nerf....

NERF ANNI

[lyric swift]

What that thing a riterly broken

A broken autoloader canon makes me mad but ik how to tame that moster

[viral echo]

hahahahahahahahah this 40tp armor is better than the tier 7🤣

[plucky summit]

It’s really not that unarmored

Thinnest try is the 130mm cupola

[viral echo]

yesh

but man seriously 110 front for a tier 7 ht (tho its still better than amx m4 45)

[plucky summit]

Yes but it’s sufficiently angled

[viral echo]

whats really funny is that the 60tp's butt could be penned by tier 3 lmfao

[plucky summit]

Like most tier 7s

[viral echo]

i think wg should buff 60tp the butt

[plucky summit]

It will effectively do nothing :|

[viral echo]

only the turret armor is good atleast it could phiss of mt's

[plucky summit]

It’s like 180mm at the least, and gets more effective really quickly, which is pretty good

[viral echo]

which is the best t10 ht

in my opinion: Maus, best for newbies cuz have huge health pool and armor, IS 7, good turret and now anti ammorack, amx m4 54 good turret and DPM

[plucky summit]

DPM is not that good lol

[viral echo]

ik

[plucky summit]

But you said it was good

[viral echo]

i mean atleast better than maus

[plucky summit]

Oof, by like 51

[viral echo]

hahahahah

just kidding, 60 tp better for its turret

[lyric swift]

Well those Polish tanks can be a brawler

And can be a dangerous opponent at from lower tiers even higher

[brazen holly]

110mm of front hull angled like that is quite good
So idk what you are going on about

[lyric swift]

Well i grind for the T28 prot line

[still spear]

Should I grind for the vk 72.01 k or e100

[drifting grove]

E100. All the tanks in that line are better than their counterparts in the Vk72.01 line.

[lyric swift]

And get the Comet back

[still spear]

Thx

[hard cedar]

Why would you brawl in a tank with no dpm

[lyric swift]

Well those are good at brawling check th tactic recommended

[hard cedar]

Never trust blitz hangar tactics

[lyric swift]

Ok ik

Well i think about grinding for Chi-To- STB-1

And both are good for me except the bad chi nu and i will skip that junk type of tank

[proud tartan]

should i get the indien-pz or ru 251

[kindred wren]

Get both in the reversed order

[manic carbon]

RU 251 is the more popular choice.
I find it more enjoyable to play than the Indien Pz

[proud tartan]

okey

[drifting grove]

So true. They say the Tiger II is average at frontlining because the frontal armour is, according to them, average.

[hard cedar]

It's good against standard but falls apart against gold

[onyx sluice]

Not if you angle properly or sidescrape.

[hard cedar]

Turret is flat

[drifting grove]

I've noticed that it's the E75's turret that holds up less against premium ammunition, oddly.
The Tiger II is usually solid.

[hard cedar]

Because the e75 has a weaker lower plate tier for tier it's easier to pen

[drifting grove]

True, but I'm talking about the Turret here. I've had an easier time penetrating the E75's turret frontally than the Tiger II's.

[hard cedar]

I think e75 also has a weaker turret tier for tier

[drifting grove]

Ahh.

[hollow notch]

The tiger 2 turret is just smaller overall
While the face of it remains penetrable, it's just a smaller target than the e75's

[hollow sequoia]

why

[plucky summit]

:)

[hasty summit]

Name your 3 favorite tanks(to play with)

(any tier, but no more than 3 in total)

Mine:

1.Hellcat (VI)
2.Jagdpanther (VII)
3.Emil II (VIII)

[sacred karma]

1. Sherman Easy 8 Fury
2. Obj 252u
3. T4 Matilda

[haughty edge]

Vickers light(X)
Progetto 46(VII)
Conqueror(IX) ( the gun is nice okayyyy don't judge me)

[green jetty]

1. Smasher
2. 50TP proto
3. Centurion RAAC

60TP probably gonna join this instead of 50TP proto already sold E100.

[analog vigil]

Smasher
Annihilator
T22 Medium
❤️ 😂

[sacred karma]

You are evil sir

[analog vigil]

Sure if I’m not who is it ?
No i like
1: AMX 30 B
2: lttb was great before nerf
3: 112

[kindred wren]

1. Kanonenjagdpanzer 105
2. AT 15
3. Maus

[haughty edge]

Dayum how

[green jetty]

TD supremacy

[kindred wren]

I speak German, that‘s why I can spell Kanonenjagdpanzer

[sacred karma]

Kanonen was pretty good ngl, just looks weird

[plucky summit]

1. Löwe
2. AMX M4 mle 54
3. SU-152

I don’t speak German, I just remember the name :p

[drifting grove]

1: M-VI-Yoh (X)
2: Leo (VII)
3: Black Prince (VII)

[violet timber]

1. AMX 30🅱️
2. AMX 30 1er
3. IS-7

[hard cedar]

1. AMX 30🇧
2. tvp
3. bc

[violet timber]

I approve, TVP is 4 for me

[hard cedar]

I like speed

[violet timber]

I like French meds

[hollow notch]

1. T49
2. Prog65
3. t95e6

There is a severe lack of t49 on all of your lists

[hard cedar]

I would like to get my hands on the 30 1er

[violet timber]

30 1er is so much fun, literal light tank with turret armor

[drifting grove]

Because I'm a heavy main.

[hard cedar]

imagine maining heavies 🤢

[violet timber]

Imagine not being a med/light main smh

[hollow notch]

Same, but t49

[acoustic ingot]

Vickers Light (X)
E25 (VII)
Defender Mk.1

Actually e25 is tied with m41D

[violet timber]

I want the 41D

[acoustic ingot]

It’s so fun!

[hollow notch]

Ew no
Type62 superiority

[violet timber]

I have the Kunze as well as the 62

[acoustic ingot]

I want that also, but buying a tier 7 is dumb right now

[hollow notch]

Love my kunze animated camo

[violet timber]

Kunze is so hot

[jolly cargo]

Should I grind E-100first I’m on e75 50/249k or the Fv215B 183?? I’m on AT15 58k/160 for tortoise

[acoustic ingot]

I would finish off the e100 line first, just get it over with

[violet timber]

E100, 183 line is gross

[jolly cargo]

Yea agreed ima go grind 200k xp lol

[jolly cargo]

Also agreed I just want that 1300alpha on HE haha

[violet timber]

It is pretty fun if you hit

[high anvil]

1. Foch 155
2. Prog 46
3. M48 Patton

Honorable mentions to AMX 30 1er, E100 and 50b

[jolly cargo]

Also do I grind vickers light?? Can someone advise me on best tech tree meds??

[violet timber]

Vickers, 62A, M48, and E50M are all good choices

[jolly cargo]

Okay good ops on kranvagan?? I am stuck after E100 for Fv215B 183 or kranvagan or vickers light

[plucky summit]

Kranvagn is arguably the best hulldown tank in the game

[violet timber]

It has the strongest frontal turret armor

[plucky summit]

Effectively, at least

[jolly cargo]

Ahh gotchu that’s why everyone buzzes of it

[violet timber]

Just don’t turn it lol

[jolly cargo]

Lol

[acoustic ingot]

Vickers lights is very good and very fun, I recommend it

[boreal spruce]

1 Pantera P44 tier 8
2 Ru 251 tier 8
3 KV-2 tier6

[boreal spruce]

only problem with the kranvagn, is if you are not using the gun deppresion. the turret can be penned by some td's with premo. (foch, obj268, jageroo, wz113 gft
so flat maps are awful for the tank (himmelsdorf)

[tender valley]

I highly recommend the WZ-121. The grind is pretty fun, it has high alpha, good turret armour, and good mobility. Also insane aim time

[acoustic ingot]

Just got it, and the aim time amazed me

[jade summit]

Why is the T-54 so fun

[tender valley]

Yeah, after playing the 121 it feels weird to go back to a tank with more normal aim time

[jade summit]

Such a smol boi, yet so epic

[tender valley]

yup

[jade summit]

HEAT is good, speedy, reload is epic

[boreal spruce]

hey guys, tips on how to play the Tortoise?

[jade summit]

Shoot othet tanks

[boreal spruce]

🤣 lmao

[mental cobalt]

tortoise just make sure your not the focus of the enemy team cuz u have trash armor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiLbzX9IuqA

[violet timber]

Ew Droodles. Honestly, just support in the tort. You have a great gun, bad armor and bar mobility

[tawdry wyvern]

Support is a strong word, he's showing how to use that kind of tank if you do buy it

[boreal spruce]

should I run gun rammer or calibrated shells? for the Tort.

[violet timber]

Droodles is not the best person to learn from

@boreal spruce this is honestly your choice. The tort has good dpm and pen, so just use whichever seems best for you

[tawdry wyvern]

@violet timber good thing I have no money

[violet timber]

🤷‍♂️ if you need to learn, Bushka is good for early tiers and HRF is good for higher tiers

[pure arrow]

Thank me later. Concept 1B schematics

[boreal spruce]

***What is everyone's favourite tier9 Tech Tree to play? ***

[paper star]

brh

[violet timber]

Skoda

[compact wraith]

smasher

[violet timber]

🤢

[drifting grove]

M-V-Yoh.

[proven river]

Buff the Stock Caernarvon, how does the same turret and same gun become worse a tier higher?

The Stock Caer literally has the same Turret and Gun as the Black Prince, why nerf those equipments when putting it at tier VIII?

[drifting grove]

I agree. Also buff the stock Conqueror and give the Fv215b 10° of gun depression. Or at least 9°.

[onyx sluice]

They should give 215 better armor, front and sides. Gun depression dosent make sense on rear turreted tanks.

[onyx sluice]

E75.

[slate cipher]

Standard B

[abstract path]

T-54

[civic meteor]

What's your opinion on T-57 Heavy?

[mighty tinsel]

Ok guys I'm planning to get the Somua and Skorpion at Black Friday.

So what can I expect from those tanks guys? Any tips?

[solid gate]

IS-8

.w.

[manic carbon]

Skorpion G expect some frustration as you learn the tank. You’re a large tank with armour anyone can HE, so you will get focused a bit. But you have mobility, a fully traversable turret and one of the best guns at tier 8 in return.

Skorp G is a great support tank. Use the mobility to reposition if you no longer have angles on an enemy, or you need to go support one side of your team.
As you get more experienced with the tank, there will be situations where you can use the mobility to be more aggressive. Of course this comes with risk, but you’ll get better at recognising when to do that as you play it more.

[solid gate]

Wich one is the better med between the chinese one and the E50M

[mighty tinsel]

Thanks man. Now how about the Somua?

[shell robin]

if anyone could lend me a little help, that would be great. I'm planning on grinding back a premium tank, so I can net some credits for my Ho Ri. I had a myriad of tier 5 prems (T14, Pz V/IV and M4A2E4 chief among them), including the sentinel, pudel, tog, loza, and SU-122-44. I'm wondering which one's I should recover.

[onyx sluice]

The Chief.

[shell robin]

?

[onyx sluice]

The Sherman.

If you want credits tier 5 isn't really the place, wait for a event to get a tier 8 prem or simply buy some gold.

[shell robin]

so why the sherman, and not the pz v/iv?

[scarlet kernel]

IMO the TD class has more freedom, because most of the time for other classes people would say "it's a light it shouldn't have that much armor" "it's a heavy but it doesn't have armor" "it's a medium but it's more like a HT", while in TD we have armored, light, medium, turreted.

[shell robin]

"it's a td it's supposed to camp"

[violet axle]

How much creds do u need for restoring the action X

[shell robin]

https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/23202/

[scarlet kernel]

I didn't even say anything about playstyle, my point is on the tank characteristics

[shell robin]

it might as well be a characteristic.

[scarlet kernel]

But that's not the point im trying to make

[shell robin]

you just said that characteristics were your point.

[scarlet kernel]

Im getting confused

My original point was on the characteristic, you talk about the playstyle.

[shell robin]

and I meant the playstyle might as well be it's main characteristic.

[scarlet kernel]

Which is not part of my point

[shell robin]

well, if you want me to translate that playstyle into a characteristic: "it's a td, it's supposed to have good gun"

[scarlet kernel]

Yes, but it is also why i think TD have more freedom. Because it is mainly the gun, almost all class can have a good gun. i rarely see people complain about that. But more ppl complaining about the other class having too much armor, or having bad gun.

What im saying is ppl tend to look at the classes to balance a tank, if WG put an originally a MT and then classified it to be a HT then ppl start complaining about how that tank have no armor etc

[shell robin]

there was actually a tank that was a medium, and people agreed with WG when they made it a heavy. Granted, it's not a fair argument to your statement (refer to Matilda). and chinese heavy tanks might as well be a second medium line (it's a line of heaviums)

[copper swan]

There are more than just 4 types of tanks to think of
for example some heavies play like mediums
some light tanks with not good speed play like mediums with a light tank's camo rating
I think you get the idea by now
not every tank plays like the type of tank wargaming labels it
certain tank destroyers can play like medium tanks sometimes

[thorny smelt]

Is Centurion 5/1 good?

How about the T95E2?

[distant nymph]

5/1 is pretty much a better Cent 1 - good gun, alright mobility, large profile, it's a hull down type medium, a strong tank
T95E2 is a smaller pershing - not really good, if you know your american mediums, you can make it work but it's far from great, around mediocre level
@thorny smelt

[solid gate]

Grille is the best tier 7 hulldown light tank in the French T110E5 medium tank line

[shell robin]

and? The stb is the best tier 5 frontline td in the german IS-7 light tank line.

[thorny smelt]

I don't have any premium medium tanks so this bundle might be a good one.

[earnest rampart]

Waffle traktor

[green jetty]

Jagdtiger

[analog silo]

WZ-120

[lyric swift]

Well the T-54

[real plover]

Interesting. The Concept 1B is a tier nine on console and pc but a tier ten on blitz. I guess it makes sense

[manic carbon]

Well Blitz doesn’t always follow its counterparts

[violet timber]

50TP Proto moment

[thorny smelt]

When 50TP Prototyp is tier 8 premium in PC but tier 9 collector in Blitz....

[onyx sluice]

I hope Blitz dosent go full on stupid with the hull down meta. Ruins the fun IMO.

[solid gate]

So, the Batchat is good, as long as you can pull a sneaky or be a support tonk

[steel heath]

I'm having problems with the T110E5 so can someone give me tips

[onyx sluice]

Hulldown.

[lofty acorn]

the cent is basically an action x but faster. the armour is insane if your hulldown. the t95e2 sucks ngl, the 59-patton is a better tank imo.

[hollow notch]

imo

[upper garden]

batchat 25t vs vickers light line, which is better to get up to first?

[violet timber]

Vickers

[hollow notch]

The Vickers line is slightly more noob friendly than the bat one.

But all of the batchat line plays the same from tier 6 and up.
Try out the amx12t to see if you will like the bat line or not.

[upper garden]

gotcha, tysm

[upper garden]

ty too

[violet timber]

There is also the STA line

[upper garden]

STA?

[violet timber]

STA, the best tier 8 med

[upper garden]

the japanese one yeah?

[violet timber]

Yup

[manic carbon]

If you’re a newer player I’d recommend avoiding the Japanese medium grind for now. Not an easy line to go down and do well in

[violet timber]

btw ignore me I'm an STA-1 simp

[upper garden]

ah gotcha, i will go with the british line for now

[steel heath]

Having a little bit of problems with that too

[lofty acorn]

the vick is easier to play. batchat is fun if you are high skill. i would honestly recommend sheridan out of all the tier 10 lights. the line is super fun and the sheridan is pretty insane. it’s fast af and being able to whip off 560+ from other tanks is a blast

[upper garden]

yeah im still relatively new to the game, was read some guide saying that british and american tanks are more all-rounded while french tanks are challenging and with less armor

i ll look at the sheridan line as well and give it a shot

[past fractal]

Vickers is a lightium, troll armor and cheap 🅱️esh has 105 mm pen.

Sheridan can sidescrape a 183 and bounce the AP shell.

I eat batchats for breakfast, baguette bread makes me thirsty in a good way

[upper garden]

ty for ur response

[lofty acorn]

anytime mate 👍

[past fractal]

Batchat is a challenging tank to play, its gun has little to no gun depression and elevation, and has no armor.

Sheridan has pretty bad gun handling

Get ready to get tunneled in vickers

[lofty acorn]

for a 152 the sheridan is quite accurate. the alpha is really just fun to out trade most other tanks at its tier and run off

[past fractal]

Tru dat

I just cant add any stuff about the sheridan that is bad. It does have some pretty mediocre pen on the standard, but thats it basically ;-;

[lofty acorn]

the heat pen tho 😩😩

actually insane heat pen with cali. which i strongly recommend using on the sheri and any other tier 10 tank for that matter

[drifting grove]

Is the Emil II stock gun bad?

[onyx sluice]

Yes.

[drifting grove]

Ok, will save up for Autoreloader then. Anyway, I'm 37k XP from the Emil I with 28k FXP saved up for the top gun.

[onyx sluice]

I warn you the Emil II is atrocious, especially compared to the Emil I and Kran.

Its painfully slow stock and traverse is almost non existent, the armor is nothing special either.

[drifting grove]

Thanks for the heads-up.

[violet timber]

Emil 2 isn't actually that bad, it has decent enough armor and a relatively similar gun to the Kran

[kindred wren]

It is noteworthy that the Emil II is one of the best performing tanks in tier nine, it‘s just that compared to the Emil I (op) and Kranvagn (at least too strong) it seems a little underwhelming

[drifting grove]

It's turret is vulberable to premium ammunition, unlike the Kran and Emil I, but not always.

[onyx sluice]

Eh, its armor dosent seem to work most of the time. Even hulldown.

[kindred wren]

Weaker armour is what saves this tank from being op

[drifting grove]

Really? Even with the M-VI-Yoh, using calibrated shells, it's turret isn't that easy to penetrate, in my experience.

[onyx sluice]

Not really, the only good thing about the Swedish heavies is turret armor. If that dosent work there really isn't much point.

[drifting grove]

The gun is brilliant too.

[kindred wren]

If you really think that then you should consider exploring alternative ways to play them

[onyx sluice]

Not compared to the French.

[drifting grove]

Alright. But still brilliant.

[onyx sluice]

I'm happy with my E100 and am grinding the E4. The Swedes aren't for me.

[drifting grove]

I prefer hulldowners. Personal preference, I suppose?

[violet timber]

Hulldown is the prime strategy in blitz right now

[drifting grove]

Anyway, good luck with the E4 grind!

@violet timber And IRL, technically.

[violet timber]

True

[kindred wren]

Well, should you ever decide that you want to give them a try anyways I recommend trying to play for trades, aka trade two or even three shots for one. The autoreloader is greatly beneficial to that playstyle

[kindred wren]

Ambush is still king 👀

[drifting grove]

That's because MBTs are supposed to have the mobility of medium or even light tanks while being able to block hits and deal damage like heavies. Only way to do that is to focus on a thick turret and go for a hulldowner. You can't afford too much hull armour or the tank gets too heavy.

[violet timber]

Ye, I know how mbts work

[worn skiff]

Tips for the vk 100.01 P? I’m struggling with it

[violet timber]

Angle up, try to use your gun to hide your cupola, and stay with your team

[kindred wren]

Good idea. I‘ll just sue the enemies who shoot me. Can‘t play if you‘re bankrupt!

[hollow notch]

Find a nice central location on the map that you can shoot everywhere from.
Then just alpha trade until everything else is dead

[onyx sluice]

Side scrape, always. Find a piece of terrain and hide your lower plate.

The side armor is good but don't over angle too much, your cupola is troll and you can use your gun to hide it.

[solid gate]

Ive been playing whit mediums and light tanks. Idk if i should get an heavy X too.
Any ideas wich heavy i should go for first? Ive got 5 X's and all of em r lights or meds.

[worn skiff]

Yeah it’s just tough covering with the gun on an iPhone. No way to lock the turret that I know of so I have to look up and can’t see what the enemy is doing

[dark ravine]

The Emil 2 turret is butter for prammo. But it'll be repaid in the Kranvagn.

[haughty edge]

The Emil 1 turret is also fairly weak for prammo

[haughty edge]

You can have lookout area on so there's a lil bar where you can use your finger to look around without your turret

[hasty summit]

somebody rank

emil I
emil 2
kranvagn
emil 1951

from worst to best pls

[worn skiff]

Oh big bet

[drifting grove]

Kranvagn→Emil I→Emil II→Emil 1951. Tier-for-Tier, this is it. Emil 1951 is still good, I believe.

[haughty edge]

I would put Emil 2 above 1951 just because you can literally pen 1951s turret with standard

[drifting grove]

Oh, ok.

[violet timber]

tier for tier the 1951 is better

[limber inlet]

Guys, is it just me or OBJ 140 is a bit too nerfed

[violet timber]

62A is definitely better

[high anvil]

Well if you don’t like heavies, don’t get one just because you “have to” lol

That being said, you could probably transition well into playing something like a 50b, IS-7, etc. depending on your playstyle. Or try something else entirely like an E100, that’ll learn you good angling and more “pure heavy” mechanics. It’s up to you really

[drifting grove]

A moblie hulldowner is what I'd say is the best transition from meds to heavies.
Something like an MBT.

[solid prism]

Hey guys, what would be a good tank for heavy gameplay V or lower (France, USSR and Germany)

[boreal spruce]

KV-1, is a true classic heavy that teaches angling,
BDR G1 B1 teaches to wiggle.
T-1 teaches how to sealclub

[solid prism]

Which tech tree is the T-1 attached to? I have the other two

[boreal spruce]

T1 is the USA heavy line at tier 5

[solid prism]

Ah okay thank you

[boreal spruce]

no worries!👍

[solid prism]

If you wouldn’t mind , could I send some of my main tanks?

[plucky summit]

KV-1 sure can teach angling, but angling has stopped working once it got nerfed and powercrept

[boreal spruce]

i wouldnt mind, what do you need help with?

[solid prism]

I’m a heavy player I like tanks that deal lots of damaged in one shot (100+) I just don’t know what tanks are good for new players

[boreal spruce]

if you want big alpha, go for the vk36-E100line. its a true classic
if you want russians with decent alpha, go for the KV-1S IS-7 line

[solid prism]

Here’s what I have to work with

[boreal spruce]

so i would for you go for the KV1, kv1s. IS, IS3 line.
leave the Churchill.
***and get a pz 4g to go for the vk36 line. ***
(the BDR line is good, but they are clippers at high tiers and dont bounce much.)

[solid prism]

The Churchill is something I haven’t used much

[boreal spruce]

keep it in the garage. (until you run out of space,) and play it once a day. but focus on the vk36 line and kv1 line

[solid prism]

I have 0 spots left , grinding lower tiers to sell

[boreal spruce]

yep, then sell it eventually

[solid prism]

Yep

[charred vigil]

I smell the lack of obj140 appraisal

[shell robin]

what's the differenct between the 140 and other russian tier x mediums?

[drifting nest]

140 does not have as good armour as the t62a and the t22 medium

[slate wren]

untrue its just the 140 dose not have as good as a turret amour as the t62a but has better over all amour meaning the 140 is better at brawling while the t62a is better at hull down

[drifting nest]

ok, how bout this. T62A is nub friendly and 140 requires much more skill

[slate wren]

more like t62a hull down 140 braw

[violet timber]

140 armor is not better overall lmao

[slate wren]

hm yes overall armour is better better hull but weaker turret

[violet timber]

Overall is not better, the hulls are effectively the same but the 140 has a weaker turret

[slate wren]

your words confuses me i told u 140 worse turret but better hull amour making it a better brawler

[violet timber]

Brawling doesn’t care about hull armor lol, it cares about turret armor

[slate wren]

and that is where you are wrong

[violet timber]

Not really?

[slate wren]

go ask any good player and they will say over all hull armor matter go ask ill wait

[violet timber]

With brawling you get in close and use your turret to bounce, not your hull

[slate wren]

i told you to ask a good player and ill wait dont worrie

[violet timber]

I don’t have to though because I know how to brawl

[slate wren]

what is brawling? just asking just so i know your saying the right thing

[violet timber]

^^

[slate wren]

what is brawling? just asking just so i know your saying the right thing

[violet timber]

Getting in close and using your turret to bounce, literally already said it

[slate wren]

thats face hugging just proves how smol brain u kinda are

what ever gtg

[violet timber]

The fact you don’t know that face hugging is a method of brawling kinda shows how small brain you are 🥱

[lyric swift]

Is the Chinese TD line are good?

[violet timber]

It's about average

[lyric swift]

But Y'know on skilled can be good

Those Japanese and Chinese even French heavies are made for skilled

[hollow notch]

@violet timber stop being a bad player smh

[violet timber]

Sorry, apparently I don't know how to brawl properly

Larks, since you're a good player, does hull armor or turret armor matter more in brawling?

[hollow notch]

Hull armor is useful for the approach to the brawl, but once the ramming has occured, turret takes priority (unless the hull is really tall eg:tiger 2)

[violet timber]

Thank you for your wisdom oh great one

[hollow notch]

Np lil nub
@slate wren when this is the only thing available to shoot, the hull being poorly armored isn't all that helpful

[violet timber]

I'm just so bad at tank game

[hollow notch]

Ikr, just delet geym noob

[violet timber]

I've been told to do that, haven't taken that advice yet

[hollow notch]

installs broken update

No seriously delete and reinstall

[violet timber]

Wanna stat shame me? My reroll that I haven't played in a while is A_Man_Of_The_People, shame away because I don't have 10k wn8

[hollow notch]

You need more than 30 battles noob

[violet timber]

I have 29, that's more than 7 right?

[hollow moth]

@violet timber If it helps, the brawl is one of the hardest activities in this game. It's ok to struggle on it at some point, but it's not ok to refuse to get better. Over the time you'll get experience, and the more you study the game strategies, the faster you'll be enlighten with skill.

[violet timber]

Mate, I know how to brawl lol. I don't have trouble with it

[hollow moth]

Ah, I got the conversation wrongly then.

[hollow notch]

Nah m8, u suck
Dont lie fool

[violet timber]

😔

I just want a mastery in my 30B

[hollow notch]

I should actually try out my 30b

[violet timber]

30B is quite fun right now, unless you come across an E50M or 4202

[hollow notch]

I think imma stick with my 95e6 for a while though

[violet timber]

I want an E6, kinda sad I don't have it

[hollow notch]

I cant give up that juicy pen
I got mine for 12500ish last Christmas

[violet timber]

It fits my playstyle so well, for now I have to do with the Chief

[hard cedar]

30b is yummy shame I sold mine to get credit grinder

[violet timber]

Can't wait for that legendary camo so I can buy more skill

[hard cedar]

I love buying skill

[violet timber]

Still have to buy it in my E50M

[lyric swift]

Well ur E-50M can get facehuged by a T-62As even any tabk with a turret armor

So u better be careful while playing tht

[viral echo]

which is the best tier 5 ht??

[violet timber]

T1 heavy, next question

[viral echo]

yes but i played better at bdr imo

[lyric swift]

Well BDR G1 B is the best HT

Bcs its armor and good alpha dmg making it the best tier 5 heavies

[violet timber]

*Best aside from the T1

[thorny smelt]

T1 Heavy can ram the heck out of BDR G1 B's HP. It is total ramming machine amongst the tier 5 tanks....even survived the wrath of KV-2's 152 mm shell.

[violet timber]

There's a reason it's the tier 5 tank of choice for seal clubbers

[thorny smelt]

I can still remember that I squished a full HP BDR G1 B with my T1 Heavy in Mines map that made me laugh so much that gave me headaches afterwards.

[lyric swift]

Dude T1 Heavy can just facehug u and u dead

Like the BDR but both have good armor and also the M6 is suck bcs its frontal armor still same as T1 even the side

[viral echo]

i only know kv 1 suck

its frontal plate could be penned by even tier 4

[kindred otter]

this bar should be fixed else 140 gets a 0mm bar right in its face
got penned perfectly hulldown with HE there for over 1k ruined the entire game -.-

[plucky summit]

Perhaps fix Grille 15's hitbox extension?

[viral echo]

perhaps make the gun mantlet bigger?

[kindred otter]

The extension might be the space crew would take

[plucky summit]

Yeah I believe it's so they can have the crew hitboxes there

[brave garnet]

God a few of you need to slow down while you’re typing

[plucky summit]

xD

[buoyant musk]

What tank has rammer rig in mad games?

[copper swan]

Panther 2

[uneven swift]

Hello
I need help what is best x tier tank?

[drifting grove]

Heavies? M-VI-Yoh, Chieftain Mk.6, Super Conqueror or Kranvagn.
Mediums? Fv4202 or the E50M.
Lights? Vickers Light.
TD? Grille 15 or Obj263.

[wintry apex]

Fix server problem

[green jetty]

write in the correct channel

[summer tangle]

based on playstyle ;)

[uneven swift]

@drifting grove hevies,medium and ligts

[solid gate]

does the FV4202 is better than the vickers ? I've the comet and I want to know wich is better ?

[violet axle]

Shitbarn or t57

[turbid jacinth]

Is the Vindicator/Predator bundle worth getting?

[onyx sluice]

No.

[turbid jacinth]

Thanks! What’s wrong with them?

[violet timber]

Vickers is better

[solid gate]

thanks !

[green jetty]

Vindicator had derp gun but bad armour and bad gun depression. Predator is just Okey Ishh so overall no not worth.

[supple birch]

Which U.K tank should I get AT 2, Crusader or Churchill 1

I’m more of the person that goes up front

[drifting grove]

Crusader. Because it leads to the best medium and light tank in game.

[supple birch]

Alright thank you

[drifting grove]

If you like frontlining, go for heavies, but not British heavies. Take a different nation.

[violet timber]

Best medium? No. Best light? Yes.

[drifting grove]

Fv4202 best.

[violet timber]

Not really

[drifting grove]

Which one is it, then?

[violet timber]

Either the E50M or T22

[drifting grove]

Ok.

[mighty delta]

its bdr then, what's the point of asking if u already made up ur mind

[upper garden]

Which is the better medium, Cromwell or Sherman Firefly?

From what I see Cromwell has a bit more dmg and Sherman has better mobility

[strange thicket]

face hugging a 50M in a 62A is a bad idea

[drifting grove]

Cromwell.

[past fractal]

Sherman firefly has way better penetration. But its bigger, and clumsier

Cromwell is like a hybrid for light and medium. Its fast, with an ok gun, and honestly some quite side troll armor

[upper garden]

oh wait i think i mixed it up

[upper garden]

right right

so if i want better dmg i go with sherman otherwise with cromwell

[drifting grove]

@upper garden The Cromwell is simply better because it leads on to the Vickers Light, which is the best light tank at Tier X, and the Fv4202, which is one of the best mediums.
Meanwhile, the Sherman Firefly leads to the Fv4005, which is, at best, a decent TD.
If you are looking to progress past the Tier VI at that line, just forget which tank is better and go for the Cromwell, unless you want the Fv4005.

[carmine lily]

Sherman also has better gun depression. So it makes it easier for more open play styles @upper garden

[rigid thunder]

p.s. the firefly has a pathetic 6 degrees of gun dep, and is as flexible as a rock

[upper garden]

sherman also leads to fv4202 to though no?

because it can lead to comet

[carmine lily]

And Cromwell leads to Vickers Light

[drifting grove]

Oh, it does, I forgot about that.
Then you may go by tank performance. In my experience, the Cromwell performs better.
I haven't played either, but I've seen Cromwells carry games, but never seen Sherman Fireflies do the same.

@carmine lily Nope. The division between the British Light and Medium trees starts at the Comet.

[upper garden]

sherman also connects to comet which leads to v4202 and vickers so its more flexible in terms of the tech tree

but yeah i guess performance wise u guys make a great point, thank u all : )

[hard cedar]

Cromwell goes to comet as well wdym

[carmine lily]

Both tanks are amazing. But they way you choose to play them all depends on you. The way you use the tank will also be a huge factor..

[drifting grove]

Base that decision on which tree you intend to go for.
The Vickers line has the best light tanks in their game for the Tier.
The Fv4202 line is also brilliant.
The TDs after the have strong guns, but are glass cannons. Literally any shell in the game can penetrate them.
And the Cromwell generally performs much better.
Unless you're going for the Fv4005, I'd pick the Cromwell.

[upper garden]

wow i didnt know tds were glass cannons

i thought they had more hp and dmg with lower mobility than heavies

[carmine lily]

That sounds like America TDs

[hard cedar]

Heavies have the highest hp pools in the game

[drifting grove]

Some TDs have strong armour, but most TDs in game can at least withstand HE shells.
Only the Grille line and the Fv4005 line can't.
And the Grille line is better because the guns are either really high caliber or are deadly accurate, unlike the 4005 line.

[upper garden]

ahh i see

[hard cedar]

Don't grind grille line for the grille grind it for the waffle 🙏

[carmine lily]

FV215 B is not to good at HE againt the front cheeks

[carmine lily]

The WT is amazing XD.

Never have I enjoy a tank destroy the same like that

[drifting grove]

Grille itself is like the Hellcat.
Mobile as as a light tank with a punchy gun that is really accurate.

[dawn bay]

What would be the best way to play panther 2?

[carmine lily]

Don't XD

[hard cedar]

Waffle is just better than grille tier for tier

[drifting grove]

Hide lower plate, sidescrape and use that mobility.

@hard cedar True, but there is no denying that the Grille is also brilliant.

[hard cedar]

Dunno about that one

[carmine lily]

@drifting grove

Yeah that is easier said than done especially when your heavy tanks camp right next to you

[drifting grove]

Idk, I'm a heavy main.

[carmine lily]

I play heavy front line.

I don't camp but I also don't YOLO

[onyx sluice]

The camping problem isn't only for heavies but for the entire team. But lemming trains are much more common, the entire team follows one dude and leave the flanks and base wide open to cap.

[solid gate]

Im yoloing with my IS7

But Im a med main ;)

Btw... the centurion 1 is a hulldown tank ?

[rigid thunder]

it either stays hull down or dies

[hard cedar]

It dies either way

[onyx sluice]

Unfortunately 90% of the Centurions on my team choose dying.

[solid gate]

oki thanks ^w^

The comet is better than the centurion for me èwé

[solid gate]

is it true most of the tanks on chinese tech tree and the wz115 a5 are not real ? not even in blueprints?

[hard cedar]

iirc all of the Chinese tds are fake dunno about the rest

[past crane]

A good amount were real at least in blueprints, I know the whole heavy line is somewhat real. The medium line is a bit more fake, since the Type T-34 is a real tank but never made in China. I think the high tier IX and X meds are different in game than they are irl but they did exist. TD line is a complete fake though.

[solid gate]

@past crane oh i see how about wz155a5?

[past crane]

I’m not sure since it looks just like a 111 1-4. It’s probably a fake version of it.

[solid gate]

brruhh 😭

[summer tangle]

china got the entire tree copied by soviets or with their own tank. nothing original

[split dawn]

Best light tank?

[drifting grove]

Vickers Light: Strong turret, HESH, and brilliant view range.

[split dawn]

Ok

[kindred wren]

I hate scams

@keen garnet How about you?

Did it ping? 👀

[hollow moth]

Pings made after editing a comment won't make notifications

Like this

@kindred wren

[upper garden]

I am sure this has been debated multiple times in this discord, but is it better to use equipment that improves the strengths of a tank or covers weaknesses

[kindred wren]

We actually haven‘t debated that a lot

[upper garden]

oh

[kindred wren]

Probably because the answer is just personal preference. We had rows caused due to these different philosophies though

[upper garden]

yeah, its a hard one to debate about

usually i would say weaknesses if it was another game but equipment benefits increase by percentage of the stat, so by that you would get more value by improving strengths

[kindred wren]

You also run into the issue of some equipments only pushing your stats a little, which for example with penetration only has an effect if that allows you to penetrate a lot more armour plates at common angles than before

[upper garden]

yeah in that case the value diminishes

i ll try improving the strengths and see how it goes

[drifting grove]

Covers weaknesses.

[hard cedar]

It depends

[upper garden]

i mean if it was another game with a similar schtick i would say too

[fast compass]

It depends on case by case basis. Even when dealing with percentages.

[valid gale]

In other words it’s situational

[drifting grove]

True

Speaking of equipment, should I use inproved assembly or the one that gives me a 4% armour thickness boost?

[upper garden]

yeah although it seems better to upgrade strengths based on percentage based purely on stat increase, but sometimes the stat increase wouldn't translate into real gameplay benefits compared to covering the weaknesses, at least as much as u'd think it would imo

but i ll test it out and confirm ig

[fast compass]

Which tank? I generally go with more hit points regardless

[drifting grove]

M-VI-Yoh.

[fast compass]

Hit points. They are going to pen you in your weakspots regardless. There might be a 50mm plate that would be not over matchable with armor enhancement but not sure. Hit points is always a safe bet

[drifting grove]

ok

[upper garden]

im not sure what to choose though, improved modules or defence system because they don't affect stats like hp or dpm, wdy think i should choose

[drifting grove]

Improved modules.

[upper garden]

alright i will go with that

[fast compass]

Take something like hori. Your strength is pen. If you take cs, sure you are going to improve it but it is not going to do much. Improving it's dpm might actually give it an edge in those brawls

[upper garden]

yeah exactly

[fast compass]

I suppose you could say there is a threshold where improving your strength doesn't give the equivalent rerurns

[upper garden]

however if u got a med/light tank lets say that has above average pen in its tier but still cant pen certain tanks, it might be useful

[fast compass]

True

[upper garden]

but it may not guarantee that u pen those high armored tanks completely, so yeah it depends

[stray verge]

Tips for the Maus?

[tender valley]

Tips to win in a Maus or against one?

[drifting grove]

Angle your tank.

[tender valley]

This

[stray verge]

Win as a Maus

[tender valley]

Angle your tank, especially the turret

[drifting grove]

Turret cheeks can also be penetrated with standard rounds, so watch out.
Also, stay with your team or a light, medium or even a heavy will run circles around you as your traverse is rubbish.

[tender valley]

The turret is a massive weak spot if you're not careful, even bigger than the lower glacis

[stray verge]

Cool thanks

[drifting grove]

No problem.

[tender valley]

Np

[drifting grove]

The E100 has a weaker and larger lower glacis, though.

[tender valley]

Yes, the lower glacis on the e100 is a huge pain, but if you Angle properly while sidescraping it won't bother you

[neon obsidian]

I'm about to research the waffle, is the other tier ten gun that does 640 better than the other rhm gun?

[plucky summit]

Yes, hence you haven’t researched it yet

[neon obsidian]

Mk Im getting close i got 95k plus 28k free exp so

[plucky summit]

👍

I’d ask if you need tips but I’m pretty sure you got the playstyle nailed down already

[manic carbon]

Well what I find with the waffle after you go through the Rhm is that you can get away with being a little more aggressive and not just backline sniping every game.
The tank can work really well as a second line support vehicle from my experience playing it

[full cargo]

i need tips on what to do with kv 4 i keep losing

[tender valley]

I've never played the kv4, so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I always though It was an excellent sidescraper. It has really good side armor, so you can angle that out to avoid showing weakspots around the front plate. Also remember to be a somewhat aggressive, because since you have a lot of armor, you can afford to take a few shells for your team

Although definitely double check this with someone who has played the tank

[steel heath]

Can I have tips for the E5? its my first/only tier X

[mental cobalt]

oh my god.. an SU Y for FREE

im the luckiest person in the world!!

i got it from the huge containers

best thing of all i got it for 0 dollars and 0 cents

[shell robin]

i'm very happy for you (me who's best tank he got out of those was the aussie tank)

[mental cobalt]

thanks man

[boreal spruce]

nice! 👍
time to party! 🕺 🥳
good luck mate!

[plucky summit]

I got the Lowe from it 😳

[boreal spruce]

T26 E4. (highest battled tank now, 1590battles ☺️

[plucky summit]

I got about 1100 battles in my Lowe

[boreal spruce]

👍 nice.

[shell robin]

best thing I got was the AC IV

[plucky summit]

Pp tonk

[boreal spruce]

🤣 i feel your pain!!

[shell robin]

garbage tonk too. I also had the SU-122-44 from it, and there's a reason I said the AC IV was my best tank from those containers.

[boreal spruce]

i have to say, my T26E4 has taught me a lot,
how to wiggle,
how to use the gun barrel,
how to facehug, etc.
the tank is a beast in a 1vs 1,💯

[lethal prairie]

what is a fun tank to play in a lot thats free

or what is a fun T10 to use a lot

[plucky summit]

T26E4 does not feel like a threat in a 1v1 to me 🤔

[boreal spruce]

you are probably skilled. 😎
however against newbies in premiums 🤓 the tank is great!

[hard cedar]

t26e4 is just bad that's why

[hollow notch]

Is it really?

And here we have a tank with the same gun depression, significantly better pen and alpha, superior mobility, better dpm, and hardly a comparable armor profile

[violet timber]

Love my AMX 49, it’s basically a Lowe that trades credits and a god tier gun for mobility and armor

[plucky summit]

Bro AMX M4 mle 49 is garbo it ain't got that 53mm rear 🤢🤢🤢

Also at least Lowe can sidescrape

[hollow notch]

Oh, I forgor💀 hp difference

[violet timber]

Wow that armor lol, AMX still manages to bounce more in the side though

[boreal spruce]

sad amx50b 30mm noises

[violet timber]

50B is kinda paper unless they aim for the front of your hull

[plucky summit]

The 80mm drops off to 53mm near the rear part of the side

[boreal spruce]

its like the T29 hulls, its odd USA tanks..

[plucky summit]

It's not even useful as the boat shape because the angled part of the sides are ez overmatched

[violet timber]

So it does my good sir

[hollow notch]

Still enough to autobounce with though

[plucky summit]

Yeah

[hollow notch]

Hold up...

[boreal spruce]

lol its like the area around the T110E3's rear drive wheel

[hollow notch]

Yesssss, I can use leopard HE on it

[violet timber]

Lmaoooooo I love it

[plucky summit]

Coulda HE'd an IS-7's turret frontally, but they had to buff it 😔😔😔😔

[fiery palm]

Hey guys I need help deciding to go with either the IS-7 or the IS-4 for tier 10.

[hard cedar]

is7 imo, nice armor profile, nice mobility, gun is eh but at this point the only real plus of the is4 is the heat pen and also the fact it doesnt have a pikenose

[boreal spruce]

IS7 is a great tank now. IS4 is also good but personally the IS7 has the easier line to grind and its pretty strong.

[fiery palm]

Thanks guys! I appreciate the thoughtful responses

[boreal spruce]

no worries! 👍

[violet timber]

IS-7 is also now just a flat out better tank

[hollow moth]

You're not the luckiest, I've seen much bruh moments in crates, like when I got Lowe in that weekly crate about 4 months after I buy the E25 & Lowe pack.

My SU-100Y is also from the weekly crates, the same goes for my T23E3.

I also have got T-34-85 Rudy in a crate after selling my grosstraktor, it was the age of the SU-122-44/T23E3/AT15A event.

Even tho, anyone that knows me in this discord knows that I still hate loot boxes and gambling systems with my guts.

[high anvil]

I’m partial to the Foch 155, not the best meta tank but so fun to play in pubs IMO

[lethal prairie]

alright im gonna go for that then

[bronze yew]

Lol I’ve gotten the same exact two from those crates

[analog silo]

be warned, the 4 6 7 and 8 in that line are pure garbage

the 5 is a meme and the 9 is probably the most competitive however

[violet timber]

8 isn't that bad tbh

[lethal prairie]

ok any other suggestions

i already have that line at 6

[violet timber]

For fun tanks? IS-7, TVP, Sheridan

[lethal prairie]

ok sweet

[analog silo]

My favorite complete line is either the wz 121 line for being the same great idea over and over from tier 6, decent mobility solid turret and high alpha meds.

[violet timber]

Add on E50M to this

[mental cobalt]

e 50 m is fun but e 50 is amazing ramming tier 8s i have gotten 400-600 damage

[analog silo]

But I also loved the t57 via T49 line for exactly the opposite reason, it is almost everything in one line

[violet timber]

Eh, not really. The thing that makes the E50M so good is the mobility is gets, which the E50 just kinda lacks

[mental cobalt]

wdym it has 60 km/h

[violet timber]

Yeah, but pretty bad p/w meaning it rarely hits 60

[analog silo]

Id hesitate to take tank reviews from someone claiming STA-1 is good, but that's just an opinion.

[violet timber]

The name is a joke lol, I just simp for the STA because it's bad (Yes, I know it's a bad tank, but at least it's not the Cent)

[mental cobalt]

anyone have any tips for a leopard pta

[analog silo]

Why ferdi and not the jag?

[violet timber]

Do your best? It's really just a meh tank tbh

[analog silo]

Leopard PTA players who get really good at flanking and concealment make playing a lot of maps a nightmare.

[hard cedar]

pta is just trash best advice is suffer through the grind or grind in a gamemode

[mental cobalt]

i thought the ferdi was better because i wanted more armor obvi jag 2 is better because more mobility and because it has better speed and armor ferdi doesn't have much

[violet timber]

JPanther II also has more effective armor

[analog silo]

the funny thing is ferdi armor isn't even better, jag can hulldown like a beast and get there faster

[mental cobalt]

i just read your name and i refuse to trust you anymore ( sta is trashhhhhhhh)

[violet timber]

JPanther II is just a better tank because speed, casemate, and gun most importantly

[mental cobalt]

the chi ri is SOO much better man 3 shots is better than one shot

[violet timber]

I legit just said it was a joke mate lol, try to read

[analog silo]

He memed us successfully

STA-1 could be good if maps where bigger and more open

[violet timber]

Chi-Ri may have 3 shots, but it doesn't matter if you can't penetrate 😎

[mental cobalt]

any tips for a su y

[analog silo]

ie PC, where STA-1 is still meme bad but workable because the concealment and vision ratio is great

[violet timber]

Hits hard, can't take too much though. Use mobility, peek when the enmies are reloading and punish hard

[violet remnant]

Action X is absolutely broken tbh.

[violet timber]

T54E2 better

[analog silo]

I'm shocked how low the ace in it is tho, especially compared to the shark

[violet remnant]

It depends

[violet timber]

Not really lol, the Shark is just a better tank

[mental cobalt]

mhm yes but the action 10 does bad in when it is a 1 shot then back up because other tanks like the is 3 or kv 4 do 400 while action 10 does 220 so like in peek a boo it does bad

[violet timber]

Did you reply to the wrong message by chance?

[analog silo]

action does 190

[mental cobalt]

oops

[violet remnant]

The gun on the shark a lot less enjoyable tho compared to Action X’s. Action X has insane accuracy and basically 0 dispersion PLUS insane DPM.

[violet timber]

DPM becomes useless once the enemy realizes cover exists lol

[mental cobalt]

thats what i was saying

[violet remnant]

Yes but while they are reloading u can shoot like 3 time which equals to a 600 dmg trade

[violet timber]

cover

[analog silo]

The AX is all about using the enemies cover for them

[mental cobalt]

backing up exists?

[violet remnant]

Well that doesn’t happen on NA so…

[violet timber]

It does though lol, NA is probably the one server it does happen on

[mental cobalt]

playing a round in su y be back in a bit

[violet remnant]

Not with my teams at least, and if ur aggressive they cant cover for long

[violet timber]

If your aggressive the enemy will destroy you since you don't really have hull armor and mobility sucks

[analog silo]

AX mobility is great for what it is

[mental cobalt]

do u wanna play in a training room or platoon?

[analog silo]

Shark feels like a boat in comparison

[lyric swift]

Well Leopard Protoyp A is a tank for scouts or a support medium tank until mid or late of the battle u can perform flanking enemy tanks

[lyric swift]

and the best part is u can do a long range combat even active scout

[hard cedar]

leo pta is just bad

[violet timber]

Play Skoda instead

Skoda best tier 9 med change my mind

[buoyant musk]

Eggpanzer

[muted frost]

ill just add it here since its vehicle discussion

[bronze yew]

Spicy

[scarlet kernel]

when?

[hollow notch]

Already removed

[scarlet kernel]

when put bacc

what if we have a special event with the Antonov A-40 ?

i also found this picture of T69

[keen coral]

.can anyone gimme tips for a löwe??

[analog silo]

Use your gun depression to make your armor better, side-scrape, assume everything can penetrate your lower plate, be somewhere you can take cover if the enemy wants to poke, if you aren’t aiming to shoot then try to adjust your mantlet to prevent your turret cheeks getting penetrated. Enjoy making money and take advantage of great gun handling.

[muted frost]

Merkava mod testing before going to moon

[viral echo]

https://tenor.com/view/yawnface-gif-4425271

[buoyant musk]

IS 3 is pretty easy to ammorack if you know where to shoot

[summer tangle]

youre an isu what do you expect

[nova hull]

I love landsverk leo

[sacred karma]

Leo go bruuuuuum!!!

[surreal blade]

Agreed 100% .

[violet axle]

Cannot agree more

[hollow schooner]

Will the Object 244 ever come out WG?

[violet timber]

Nope

[warm leaf]

Can anyone give me a tip for the KV-4?

[past crane]

Sidescrape. That's all it really does well. Gun sucks, speed sucks, you basically need to try and bounce shots and take them for the team.

[lyric swift]

Thats why i called KV tanks are tracked coffin

Bcs trash armor on the side and the back and also vulnerable to catching fire when u shot from the back

[kindred wren]

KV tanks have excellent side armour I don‘t know what you‘re talking about

[lyric swift]

But ik how good that thing was it has alpha dmg for tier 5-7

and excellent armoru just need to angled it

[hard cedar]

"trash armor on side"
"excellent armor"
🤨

[lyric swift]

Lmao

Which heavy tanks that has no armor

Like has paper armor only

[hard cedar]

50b

[lyric swift]

What so the from tier 7-10 french heavies has no armoe

[kindred wren]

Hull front and mantlet

[lyric swift]

So no armor is deserved for skilled hands

And my friend says its skilled tank

[hard cedar]

Paper turret and that's all that matters

[kindred wren]

I would take the Großtraktor as the heavy with no armour

[hard cedar]

Although the 50b does have decent armor compared to the the 50 100 and 20 120 those are completely paper

[kindred wren]

It‘s not even that paper. Can be quite trollish at times

[lyric swift]

U can just HE those with tanks on low alpha dmg

Such as Comet even FV301 and Ru 251

[hard cedar]

it's troll against meds with like 240 pen and thats about it

[kindred wren]

~~What if that‘s all I play? 👀 ~~

[lyric swift]

So u can just troll some meds using dat

[hard cedar]

you could but it's still not reliable armor

[hard cedar]

I approve!

[onyx sluice]

Imagine them giving the gear oil and improved gear oil provisions to VK100.🤤

[turbid jacinth]

Hey y’all, I’m new to the Maus. Hang back behind the team, side scrape when possible and support support support? It seems way too slow to be front line

[haughty edge]

Completely the wrong way round you are a hp pool designed to take damage for the team you have to be frontline also your gun has bad dispersion so support is completely wrong move maus is the most front line tank there is

[turbid jacinth]

Thanks! So get up there and tank damage for the team. Got it!

[manic carbon]

Thats the entire point of the Maus basically.

[hollow notch]

Do not focus on putting out damage. Just take very annoying locations that force the enemy tanks to attack you, and then survive as long as possible with angry reds swarming you

[turbid jacinth]

Sounds like I’m going to be relying on teammates a whole lot to pick them off as they swarm me!

[onyx sluice]

*All the while the rest of your team sits back and does nothing.

[turbid jacinth]

😂

[hollow notch]

It's a maus, it gives your team time for their brains to process the battle, which leads to victory

[turbid jacinth]

I wish we could have 3 players in a squad like in Warships. Would make for more reliable support

[hollow notch]

You really want to fight superuni toons?

[onyx sluice]

My most played tanks are the VK100 and VK168, the same role as Maus but at tier 8. In 90% of the matches the team does nothing while I sidescrape, am eventually flanked and then die.

[turbid jacinth]

You’ll usually find me in tier 6 and 7… I don’t venture into tier 10 much… I really like playing in the Jackson

[hollow notch]

Vk100 and 168 are far closer to the e100
alpha slappers vs a tank purely based on survivability

[onyx sluice]

Maus has the same alpha.

[hollow notch]

two tiers lower

[onyx sluice]

460 isn't much though, and their guns are similarly atrocious.

[turbid jacinth]

What is the BEST American Tier X? Ton for ton?

[onyx sluice]

Probably the E4.

[hollow notch]

460 isn't much? In tier 8?
Seriously?

[onyx sluice]

Compared to 640 of the E100.

[hollow notch]

Last time I checked there weren't 183s in tier 8

And there aren't any tanks with 3000 hp in tier 8

[ancient star]

@onyx sluice vk 168 is tier 8 and e100 is tier 10

[turbid jacinth]

👍🏻

[onyx sluice]

Duh.

[hollow notch]

Why are you arguing against that?

[ancient star]

There is HP difference between tier 8 and tier 10

[onyx sluice]

I'm not arguing against that, I'm arguing with their 15 sec reload and bad accuracy their role is still more about tanking than dealing damage.

[turbid jacinth]

I figure out all of the ins and outs of Tanks eventually… I came over from Warships Blitz when NetEase screwed up the game.

[hollow notch]

The e100 wins alpha trading fights against any tank if sees

The vk100 and 68 do exactly the same thing in their tier

They completely outgun the other heavies in their tier while retaining a weak turret and lower plate

While the maus should be focused purely on defense, those other tanks are powerful damage dealers

[lofty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-黃金神威-earless-seal-anime-gif-16168846

[plucky summit]

Average Tier 10 Heavy HP: 2432.5
Average Tier 8 Heavy HP: 1798.6 (I really wanna say 1800 but for the sake of math: )
VK 13cm vs E100 15cm alpha vvv
460 vs 640
1798.6 vs 2432.5 =
0.256 vs 0.263
Wow, how similar, no?

I'd argue that VK 100/168 are more a fit for E100 in their tier rather than Maus
I believe the standard tier 10 heavy-hitter is the 15cm you find on E100 and VK 72.01K, while the standard tier 8 heavy-hitter is the 13cm found on VK 100.01 P and VK 168.01 P, rivaled by say, an Obj. 268 and an ISU-130 respectively

[violet timber]

Yoh

[latent swan]

maus became way too bad

[turbid jacinth]

👍🏻

[violet timber]

Good game, but may I direct you to #screenshots

[heavy swallow]

hello, I have a question about the t54e1. I understand that its best advantage is the gun handling and firepower (well... atleast when fully upgraded and kitted out), but I am having a hard time choosing where to be in a map with this tank

[kindred wren]

With an autoloader like that I recommend being somewhat on the edge of your team but not too far away. This allows you to get good angles on enemies while minimising the risk of getting pushed

[haughty edge]

I would personally say stick with the other mediums/lights bcs as an autoloader of the red meds push you can tear them apart so stay with your meds and you can go hulldown but not reliably as the armour is troll but not strong so don't sit there but basically stick with your team otherwise you will be torn apart

[analog fox]

Wonder if this type of chassis/suspension could be adapted by WG?

I think this was a Converted Swedish vehicle?

[violet timber]

Probably not since there's no way that'd actually be viable lol

[real quarry]

Yeah I’ve noticed T54E1s tend to better towards the edges of their Team but not suuper far away

[shell robin]

Just got myself another premium from containers. any tips about the T-25?

[plucky summit]

It's a very bland tank, just be a support medium

[violet timber]

It's really just meh, not very much speed, not much armor, meh gun

[shell robin]

well I guess that's great. another container gives me a crap tank. already i'm considering selling it.

[violet timber]

Probably worth more that way honestly

[shell robin]

welp. I guess I'll have to wait for another lifetime to get a decent prem for free... kill me.

on the plus side, I Now have the credits to recover one of my still useless prems, like the V/IV

[violet timber]

V/IV is actually pretty good

[shell robin]

I can recover any tier 5 and 6 premium I had. unfortunately, none of the tier 6 were any good, and I reckon only 1 of my tier 5 is good.

[gray shore]

When tortoise buff

[violet timber]

What prems can you recover?

[shell robin]

AC IV, Tog, T14, Excelsior, V/IV, Pudel, Loza.

[violet timber]

T14, Excelsior, and Pudel are all relatively good

[shell robin]

I heard pudel was garbage. and I'm more worried about credits than the actual tank. unfortunately, most of my best credit grinders became collects

[violet timber]

Pudel is a good support tank, but you can't really do much else in it. T14 and Excelsior are just bully tanks, they have strong armor, fast firing guns, but bad mobility

[shell robin]

would you take an excelsior or a T14? I'm leaning towards the T14.

[violet timber]

T14 because the armor isn't flat lol

[plucky summit]

TOG good =)

[violet timber]

Ye, just gotta play it right

[shell robin]

so then the next question. It's pretty obvious my T6 prems are less useful than a stock tier 4 in a tier 5 match, so i'm stuck with tier 5 prems. so now i'm stuck between V/IV and T14.

[plucky summit]

TOG is the best 1v1 tank tier for tier

[violet timber]

Tog is more of a meme imo though

@shell robin T14

[shell robin]

T14 > V/IV?

[violet timber]

Ye

[shell robin]

this is gonna be intersting. imagine if I have enough creds to recover both. (I probably won't)

[violet timber]

If only Blitz was a 1v1 game

[plucky summit]

Force a 1v1 :p

[violet timber]

Easier said than done with the Tog's mobility and tendency to be targeted because it's a Tog

[shell robin]

oh boy, I can't wait to share a screenshot of a forgotten camo.

[fast compass]

Just create a training room and dm the guy who killed you for a 1v1

[shell robin]

I'll be back in, say, about 25 minutes.

[worn skiff]

As a newer player (completely ftp so premium is rare) working through my first 2-3 lines, should I be spending my free xp as I go to unlock modules faster for each tank?

[violet timber]

Only use fxp for modules to get out of the stock phase

[hard cedar]

Spend fxp on the gun/turret generally speaking, depending on the tank engine might be a good buy as well

But if you're lacking fxp prioritize gun

[worn skiff]

Thanks that’s what I’ve been doing. Just want to make sure I’m on the right track

[shell robin]

how long does it take to recover a tank? 25 minutes right? Also, when was the Firefly added to blitz?

[hard cedar]

2 hours for me

[wise moth]

It was added along with the FV4005, which was probably like 1-2 years ago now

[warm leaf]

Also one more thing I forgot about that is I am having trouble with M-VII-Yoh any tips for it?

[shell robin]

well, essentially, I have a tank that has a camo that predates the firefly (which was like 4 years ago according to wot blitz.)

[fast compass]

Wasn't firefly around for years, even before the 4005 line? It used to be an alternative to get to comet iirc

[shell robin]

that's what I remembered. it's like a 4 year old tank in blitz.

[wise moth]

Although actually, on second thought, it was added before 4005, but it all kinda blends in my head now. Either way, it was added like a month or two before 5.5

[fast compass]

Oh yeah, I didn't remember when exactly it was added just that it was older than that line. I don't believe it was a good choice back then when Cromwell exists. Atleast now you have to play the tank for the 4005 line

[shell robin]

far as i know, it's one of the worst Sherman versions in blitz.

[fast compass]

Hmmm maybe. There are quite a few of those mediocre Shermans.

[shell robin]

ok, so I found the camo my T14 has.

My T14, along with some other prems, have this camo. To this day, it's one of my favorite camos.

[analog fox]

Semovente 75/46 Italian TD 100mm of Frontal Protection

Looks like a competitor for Stug III if this tank is implemented

[real quarry]

It can take anywhere from 30 minutes to about 8-12 hours, usually 1-2.5 hours

[real quarry]

A little more than 2 years ago, the Y5s were added for the 5th Birthday Event,hence Y5 being in the names of the Tanks

[real quarry]

Oh yeahhhh that Camo, what’s it’s name? I gotta write down to try and Buy it for a few Tanks eventually

[hollow notch]

2 hours exactly from when you requested it be returned

[real quarry]

I’ve had a couple Tickers that WarGaming responded to and gave back the Tank in roughly 30 minutes, and a few Tickets where it took about 8-12 hours

[hollow notch]

The past (half a year?) Every time I have reclaimed one it took exactly 2 hours.

[real quarry]

Yeah I noticed that for most of 2021 it takes 1 hour fastest to 2.5/3 hours longest for Tickets, although I did have a few occasions where it was under an hour

[neat nimbus]

worth?

[solid gate]

just wait for blitz cup event

[neat nimbus]

if i have wi fi on my house

[solid gate]

you don't? Rip

[fickle marsh]

Which tank should I buy next?

[shell robin]

WG fest 2017. I don't think they sell it anymore.

[neat nimbus]

should i get it?

[shell robin]

the beaut has returned.

anyways, I need some tips for this bully tank.

[solid gate]

ohh nice the assault tank hmm i think u can hull down in it and sidescrape? @shell robin

[shell robin]

well I know that, but it's not always easy to do in a bully.

[solid gate]

ohh

[real quarry]

Oh

[shell robin]

ya, i'm an old timer, though my stats will disagree.

[real quarry]

Lol

[velvet sage]

Anyone agree with me that the IS-7 turret should be in-pen-able. The massive turret is the they key aspect of the tank, and you shouldn’t be able to pen it.

[real quarry]

Weakspots are important for Balancing, it shouldn’t be impossible for Meds&Lights but have Visible Weakspots for Heavies&TDs that way it’s not “oh I can’t see his Hull guess I lose”(IS-7 isn’t a Hulldown-Main so having a completely Impenetrable Turret is ridiculous IMO given it’s Hull Armor and Maneuverability)

[solid gate]

is 7 is good enough

[velvet sage]

I guess your right. The turret on the IS-7 is half the tank. And being a hull down tank, when you poke a hill. You shouldn’t be penned on the checks on the when your turret is the same size as a T62A

Remember that the VK-90, and AMX-M4-MLE turrets can’t be penned even by a Ho-Ri. And those tanks have more advantages than the IS-7 does

And with the 60-TP, it’s going to let negate the IS-7 by all points. The turret has 1 weak spot, and that’s the commander hatches. Otherwise, even with the update in 8.3, the IS-7 is going to to be outclassed by the 60-TP entirely

[silver sage]

It won’t….

[velvet sage]

Are you sure?

[loud meadow]

Nice pen

[velvet sage]

I feel quite dumb now…

Penning the AMX-M4-MLE is still super hard due to the mantle size

[velvet sage]

The VK-90 tho… it’s definitely pen-able

[past crane]

I made a proposal on Italian TD's a while ago on the forums, try and Google it. Also check out PikPikker's WoT tech tree proposals, they have fantastic concept designs.

[velvet sage]

Now pull up the IS-7

[ocean dock]

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[silver sage]

Yes. 60tp although somewhat fast with its provisions is still not is7 levels of quick. Also is7 is lower to the ground which makes it viable for brawling. 60tp will be used in comp but it will definitely not replace they is7

[velvet sage]

The IS-7 takes 60 years to hit 50

[charred vigil]

if you know where you driving to and make as little turns as possible you can get to 40-50 quite nicely

[velvet sage]

I guess..

[silver sage]

Well in pubs both tanks will never become irrelevant so are u by any chance asking about the is7 becoming inferior in a competitive environment?

[hexed furnace]

I guess he is one those guys that go around saying "hahaha funni don't buy is7 ammo rack goes brr bad tank sub to pantouf"

[velvet sage]

Bruh…

[loud meadow]

Is7 after it got remodeled is the pub god. Abuse it while you can

[velvet sage]

Tbh, the IS-7 was my first Teir 10. I love it. Ans it’s my favorite tank ever created

[drifting grove]

IS-7 ammorack is weaker, but not as weak as those of light tanks ot unarmoured TDs, but I don't see anyone telling you to stop buying those.

[silver sage]

U missed the entire joke…

[velvet sage]

And I feel like the fire it had is gone

[loud meadow]

How often do you see the grille get racked

[silver sage]

Also is7 ammorack is not weak at all compared to some other heavies. Namely the e5 and Yoh

[velvet sage]

Lol, never. And honestly, I got ammoracked kn the IS-7 like 10-15 times out of 100-120 game

[hexed furnace]

If anything, the 60tp will take the role the IS-4 had before the nerf. It's good, but it's not going to replace the IS-7 in any shape or form.

[silver sage]

Why would it be gone? It just got one of the best buffs u could receive for a heavy. It’s literally the pub game god tank rn

[loud meadow]

Do you run protective kit

[velvet sage]

No

[drifting grove]

I've been ammoracked twice in the Yoh across 500 battles, but I've seen the IS-7 getting ammoracked 4 times in that period, once by me.
The Yoh tends to be easy to ammorack as larger-calibre guns can HE its hull.

[charred vigil]

Now that see is a problem

[silver sage]

Anecdotal evidence does not equal statistical proof…

[drifting grove]

I know.

[velvet sage]

The ammorack is fine and I’ve never had issues

[loud meadow]

You should run protective

[velvet sage]

I was talking about the turret itself. And only face on.