vehicles-discussion

[light orbit]

M vi joh vs Kranvagn?

[violet timber]

Yoh

[light orbit]

gun IS nice but Armor idk never played them

[winter swan]

YOH,bcoz i always see 40% or higher player using this tank,he did averaging 2k avg damage over 100 battles

Kranvagn for its almost invincible turret,the problem of this tank is everyone will slap u in the face with HE,slowly but sure,ur hp goes to 1500

[violet timber]

I’ve honestly never had that happen to me in the Kran

[thorny smelt]

Any thoughts about the IS-5?

[violet timber]

Best bang for your buck

[thorny smelt]

I know but any review about it? Pros? Cons? Aside from the hecking pike-nose that I can't side-scrape.

[light orbit]

I think U Go kran

[modest solar]

Titan gud?

[thorny smelt]

Watch Meadsy's video

[modest solar]

Alright

[light orbit]

@winter swan Kran seems better (Tanks before expecially)

[thorny smelt]

The battle pass is still new and fresh from the oven.

[winter swan]

Honestly i dont have kranvagn and YOH,but i am the guy who HE the kranvagn using my vk72.01(k),E100,and 183

[modest solar]

I wonder how long it take to get all tech tree unlock 🤔

[fast compass]

Assuming you research one tech tree a month, it will take you some 3 and a bit years

[modest solar]

Owh, well sad then I got stric rule with gaming ;~;

[signal grail]

Is the T2020 worth buying?

[onyx sluice]

No.
Just get the 252u

[signal grail]

Kk thx

[real plover]

is it worth buying if you dont have the 252U

[onyx sluice]

If you don't have the 252u, definitely buy the 252u.

If you already have it just save the gold for something else.

[spiral garnet]

Hi, I've got some trouble with arl AC 46 (french tier 7 TD). Any tips would be welcome :)

[austere hare]

Is the M3 lee a good tank?

[real plover]

it sucks. free xp past it

[spiral garnet]

I'd only I could man

[plucky summit]

It’s a good alpha and DPM TD
Yes, play it like a TD

[pallid moss]

any suggestions about this one??
i started playing yesterday, currently im using T1 heavy
but i also wanna build up a medium tank

[shell breach]

When will the raumpanzer be on store?

[onyx sluice]

Hulk down. Use your gun depression to peek-a-boom over ridges.

[hot fulcrum]

Unbalanced, again.
5/7 enemy tanks are heavy hitters - meaning, in 1 or 2 shots, our mediums were dead.
TD's were remaining, they lost.

[vocal igloo]

Just dont brawl with the Kv-2s, or just avoid them

[hot fulcrum]

I tried to

[light orbit]

m joh seems x Treme good

but IS IT better than Emil?

Tier 9 joh seems best

If they Nerf i dont want to Grind ( i got the Emil today because of Armor)

maybe i should went for the joh

[hard cedar]

The Emil 2 has no armor uptiered and the m v yoh has a pretty good armor profile

[light orbit]

Emil 1?

[small path]

Emil 1 very good

Turret armour is good and it's quite mobile but beware the side and rear armour was optional

[light orbit]

maybe i max my Emil 1 and than Go yoh line

[hard cedar]

Emil 1 has a solid armor profile

[vocal igloo]

How about 183? If the HESH penetrated you, you will lost half or Almost ALL of your hp, and the Yoh also only good at good player hands

[small path]

Well the 183 has a long reload and the YOH being an autoloader your better off getting your shots out when he's reloading

[plucky summit]

Emil I has an OP armor profile ._.

[vocal igloo]

The double shoot gun on Yoh isnt that accurate tho

[plucky summit]

M-VI-Yoh is a 183 that traded HESH for the other problems solved

[small path]

It's reload is like 20 seconds and it has no armour and the turret doesn't turn 360

[plucky summit]

It's 19.9s with CS, and provisions which I recommend running

[small path]

Wdym

[plucky summit]

I get like 2.5k average in my 183, and 3.2k average in the Yoh

Yoh also depends on not being pushed on ._.

[small path]

True

[plucky summit]

Tier I balanced

[hard cedar]

Imagine using 2 shot gun on yoh

[small path]

Tier X is debatably the best tier rn

[plucky summit]

I mean it's reliable to me for damage, 3.2k average is the highest I achieve

[small path]

That's good

[vocal igloo]

Im bored with the 3 Shell gun lmao

[hard cedar]

Im bored with the yoh lmao

[plucky summit]

As is the 2 shot

Hurr durr BatChat gun on a heavy so OP

[light orbit]

HELP: I need a reload botton for my Emil 1

[hard cedar]

57 has the same dpm

[plucky summit]

On PC, the default reload key is 'C'

[light orbit]

i realy Like my Emil but i want the Tier 9 joh but the Tanks before are Not my Playstile to less armor

[vocal igloo]

Trust me bro, u will hate the M-V-Yoh

[light orbit]

why ITS so strong

[vocal igloo]

Wait till you suffer because how SLOW the tank is and how long the reload is

The 75% crew M-V-Yoh Rotation speed is just same like an 100% Crew Maus

[plucky summit]

Don't have 75% crew then

[vocal igloo]

Skip to 100% lmao

[plucky summit]

Yeah it's 17 degrees base, I find that hilarious, it deserves it because firing at it is so frustrating

[drifting grove]

I love it. I'm using it atm to grind the M-VI. Although it is probably because I skipped the stock gun with 60k FXP.
Although the traverse is, as you've said, pathetic.

Although, I need 148k XP to get the M-VI-Yoh and I honestly can't wait as it'll be my first Tier X.

[umbral jungle]

Thoughts on Agent?

[delicate sluice]

One of the best BP tanks imo

[umbral jungle]

I've had it for a while... Been trying to get better with something. I play TDs a LOT

[thorny smelt]

I've lost my skill in playing light tanks after playing mostly heavy tanks and tank destroyers for months. I need some help Q_Q

[plucky summit]

Play like the rocks and dirt are your armor, aka hide yourself behind it, spot for your team, avoid getting shot.

Hit enemies who are distracted when it's safe to

[thorny smelt]

The only light tank I had is VK 28.01 which is a bit painful than tier 5 Leopard. Can you suggest another light tank? Probably I might get the Titan T24 57 a couple of weeks later.

[plucky summit]

Vickers Light

[thorny smelt]

Comet itself is quite painful for me

[plucky summit]

It really shouldn't be

[thorny smelt]

The pen is VERY anemic than Panther's

[plucky summit]

Adapt, don't fight heavies

[thorny smelt]

I'll make it as a low priority for now because I need to finish the VK 72.01 K line, then probably the IS-4 line.

[mental cobalt]

the sp i c is such a good tank

[plucky summit]

Eh, workable, but not above meta

[mental cobalt]

wdym i always get amazing damages in my sp i c all german tanks have good guns

[plucky summit]

Personal achievement isn't a proper piece of evidence

[mental cobalt]

i suppose but the sp i c is like the t54 iltw run around with a good gun and shoot

[plucky summit]

SP I C is more like well, RU 251

[mental cobalt]

no because the sp i c if it gets its shots out with its autoloader it gets 400 dmg

[valid gale]

If both shots connect

[plucky summit]

and penetrate =)

[violet timber]

Sp 1 C and ltwt aren't similar at all lmao

[mental cobalt]

wdym u just run around and shoot at people

[violet timber]

ltwt is just a fast med, Sp 1 C can't be shot at all

If you play them the same, you're doing something wrong

[worn skiff]

Would y’all advise a me, new player, to do hundreds of battles at each tier starting the game to get used to it or push up in tier fast at least until I have the type of tank id like to use

[winter swan]

Lt meant for yolo,u need to get to the bush spotting position,enemy spotted*and u put early shoot,and then relocate

[drifting grove]

First, read up on the different playstyles of each type of tank. Once you have decided on one, read up induvidual playstyles of each techtree of that particular tyoe of tank. Then pick one you like and focus on it until you finish it. If you don't like it, you can switch to a different techtree.

@worn skiff Also, since you're a newbie, heavies are, in general, the easiest kind of tank to play. You can try those first. If you are, learn to sidescrape, hulldown and angle. You'll need these techniques (which one you use depends on the tank) to block damage on heavies.

[plain obsidian]

what he means to say is go farm the is4

[drifting grove]

Or the E100. Or the Yoh.

I'm grinding the Yoh. I've just maxed out the M-V, and am now 127,750 XP from the M-VI-Yoh, which will be my first Tier X.

[plain obsidian]

E100 is not nub friendly, E75 is meh but not the E100, requires a lot of angling and pen knowledge, the yoh eh, I guess, but it's an auto loader and you gotta know how to hide them cupolas

[drifting grove]

@worn skiff A few other general tips:
Save up every bit of gold you get from watching ads, battlepass and all other free sources of gold, especially if you're not going to spend money on the game, to buy a decent premium later on.

Don't, under any circumstances, use gold to buy credits or convert Elite XP to FXP.

Don't buy crates. Only open the free ones you get, as the odds of getting a good reward are too low.

Don't use Free XP to research tanks. Save it up to research modules (preferrably the gun/turret) on new tanks if the stock module sucks.

Also, only use epic boosters when you have an ×2, ×3 or ×5 XP bonus for wins.

[plain obsidian]

yes, always use free xp boosters too if you can so you have enough for anything you may need

[drifting grove]

Yoh is harder as hulldowning is trickier than sidescraping/angling. I just prefer it as hulldowning is more useful and also better security against penetration. Also, I like autoloaders.

As for the E100 bit, I disagree on one count. The E100 is, in fact, quite easy to use, although, I'll agree with you on the E75 bit because it was that tank that made me quit the E100 tree and realise that I preferred hulldowning to sidescraping/angling.

[thorny smelt]

GTFO

[plain obsidian]

breh

<@&481447501690568709> sorry for mass ping but uh, ^^^

[drifting grove]

<@&481447501690568709> scam and mass ping.

[nocturne tiger]

"discord cpp"

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[plain obsidian]

anyway I disagree, the E100 has massive weak spots and it's very hard to bounce with them completely exposed, while I don't own an E100 I do have the JGPZ E100 and I have played against both many times, and I can say it's difficult, and I can imagine with a massive turret as on the E100 it's even harder (they have the exact same hull)

[drifting grove]

The IS-4 techtree has some of the worst stock grinds in the game and many of the tanks are just bad, even when maxed. Not very beginner friendly. IS-7 is better. The only bad stock grind on that tree is the IS-3.

[plain obsidian]

n- no, I think you're think of the is7 tech tree

[daring flint]

T29 hull down

[plain obsidian]

the is8 is complete trash

[drifting grove]

I've fought both, and while you do have a point, I'll have you know that the Jagdpanther E100 has many more weakpoints than the E100 heavy.

[plain obsidian]

like which one's

[drifting grove]

No. The KV-2 stock gun can only use HE. Useless against heavies and anything with armour, really..
The KV-4 is mediocre, overall.
The ST-1 is absolutely apalling.
The IS-4 is now worse than the IS-7 after the recent buffs to the latter.
Meanwhile, the only bad tank in the IS-7 line is the IS-3, especially when stock. The IS-8 is a heavium, decently armoured and has phenomenal mobility.

[drifting grove]

Lower glacis. Much bigger and easier to pen than on the E100.

On the other hand, finishing the IS-7 line makes the IS-4 grind much easier as it unlocks several guns for the latter, as the IS-4 line tanks all have pathetic stock guns.

[plain obsidian]

sorry but, what?, the kv4 is a very good tank and the st1 is just as good, the is7 is not better then the is4, little other then a 1 degree armor change and the is4 getting less hp, also

the jgpz has THE EXACT SAME HULL

[drifting grove]

KV-4 and ST-1 good? WHAT?

[plain obsidian]

is8 good? WHAT?

[drifting grove]

Wait, what? Then how do I find the Jageroo hull easier to pen?

[gritty burrow]

@drifting grove bruh jag has the same chassis as the e100 it's just a td version

[drifting grove]

I know, but somehow, I usually find the jageroo's hull easier to pen.

[gritty burrow]

@drifting grove nope

Infact u can angle better in jag

[zealous anchor]

Well you might be missing some factors, thats just for him it might not be the same for you. You can objectively say that yes it's the same hull but you can't objectively say they equally ez to pen all the time, maybe the players he faced are usually better for e100s? Or does one have better traverse speed? Not sure, didn't check

[true bobcat]

No it's not, especially if u don't grind from IS 7 tech tree first

[drifting grove]

Which is exactly my point!

[gritty burrow]

@zealous anchor yea maybe most jag players doesn't care about angling and e100 youtubers made so many vids about its angling most of them know how to angle it

[true bobcat]

Stock grind in IS 4 tech tree is absolute pain. Imagine using a 25 km/h tank with a gun of 175 mm pen in tier X

[gritty burrow]

@drifting grove what with this stock thing all u say is bad things about stock how about it when full upgraded

U are talking like it's the only gun u can use on those tanks

[drifting grove]

All tanks are bad stock. Some are just worse than others.

[gritty burrow]

@drifting grove can u appreciate the fact st1 is one of the most dominant hts tier 9

[nocturne tiger]

IS-3 needs buff

[true bobcat]

And fact that most ST 1 players can't do decent damage when grinding and become dominant cuz everyone thinks IS 4 better than IS 7 without knowing that IS 7 got some buff which make it better than IS 4? nah

[plain obsidian]

the is7 got a modal rework that changed the shape of the armor by 1⁰ so it's slightly thiccer

[gritty burrow]

@true bobcat u got a point is4 is not a tank that u can got infront of anything and do very gud in most youtubers said it is very easy to play is4 but it's not same for st 1 u need to angle the hill or they will load prammo and rip through the upper hull

Stock is horrible but there is a use of free exp

I don't think it made a difference in is7 armour easly goes through its armour with heat

Turrent is even more weak now cheeks are easier to pen

[nocturne tiger]

Aren't you always going to use premium ammo in tier x anyway

[gritty burrow]

@nocturne tiger nah I don't use prammo unless I know I can't pen it

[true bobcat]

Wow a prammo spammer here. U new?

[gritty burrow]

But I do use heat for long range shots sometimes not often

Using prammo puts u in a massive disadvantage don't forget that lower alpha like on jag 800 down to 680

[nocturne tiger]

no but I use the kranvagn and I always had to use prammo just because I need to hit

but in tier 8 I find more situations where I don't need to use prammo

[plain obsidian]

switches to normal ap for extra alpha because he can pen

[nocturne tiger]

isn't it better that you get damage instead of no damage when you have an opportunity to shoot anyway

[gritty burrow]

@nocturne tiger those the kind of people we call gold nubs

Don't always use prammo unnecessarily

Especially in a medium don't use prammo on other mediums brainless or u won't have enough prammo to cut through heavies when u run out of them maybe losing a kolobanov

[plain obsidian]

kolobanovs are meh, where raseanai medal

[gritty burrow]

Not for me 😜

[plain obsidian]

kolobanovs are medals you get playing against an entire team of low 40%ers xd

[hollow moth]

It's not actually totally useless to use HEAT in long distance shots. HEAT, HESH and HE shells are the only that doesn't lose penetration over distance. It's interesting to try using HEAT at long distance against slow and armored targets.

[plain obsidian]

||hits track||

sometimes I wish the jgpz didn't use HEAT xd

[hollow moth]

Little tip, avoid using spoiler tag on this server. It'll avoid problems with moderators in the future.

No needing of a great text explaining why I'm being a mini-mod or why it's a dumb rule. I know and I agree.

[drifting grove]

Yes. The stock gun needs a massive buff.

[desert swallow]

A lot of stock guns suck

[solid gate]

PLSS add legendary camo for B1 heavy tank

[drifting grove]

But some are just worse than others. The Tiger I, for instance. Or the M-V-Yoh.

[solid gate]

i think the perfect camo idea for B1 is the tank of the legendary b1 commander that destroy 13 panzers?? i didn't remember his name but yea uts will be epic as their tank as the legendary camo of B1

[hollow moth]

I suppose you're talking about Billote's Char B1

[solid gate]

mhm mhm i really want wargaming put legendary camo on tanks taht been used in world wars and i want B1 to havr

damn i want to get billotes medal on b1 tank that would be epic

[hollow moth]

Well, that'd be cool for sure to give these heroes a final salute for their hardworking in another struggle for the human race

[solid gate]

hmm i mean i cant get billote medal on B1 its hard but having a legendary camo for B1 its gonna epic

[gloomy rune]

I think before wargaming even thinks of adding char b1 legendary camo, they’d add sherman (firefly/non firefly) legendary camo, these tanks are more relevant to the war than the B1. Plus somua s35 was more sucessful

[drifting grove]

I think the Churchill and Crusader tanks need legendary camos too.

[cloud topaz]

Any diffrence between m41 bulldog and t71? (Apart from the clipper that t71 has)

[vocal igloo]

T71 Burst faster

T71 also have more Hit point than M41

[runic summit]

How much does it cost to restore back my pudel

[lyric copper]

check the support website

[runic summit]

It doesn't show how much the pudel cost

[gritty burrow]

When did I say its useless I know only ap and apcr lose pen over distance bruh

[vocal igloo]

Around 700k to 900k idk

[gritty burrow]

That's the reason I use them for long range shot

@vocal igloo 700k around that maybe even650k

[vocal igloo]

I dont remember how much the Tier 6 Premium tanks restore cost, lmao

[solid gate]

i agree with that

[pallid moss]

tf, leopard is sooo op 👀

[thorny smelt]

Tier 5 Leopard?

[pallid moss]

yup

any tips on equipments for leopard t5??

[drifting grove]

Calibrated. View range thing. Improved assembly.

[pallid moss]

tnx

[quaint gust]

Has anyone else been having ghost shells?? Because i just had a game where i watched my shell go into the side of a kv-4, a shell mark appear on it but nothing happened no damage dealt or blocked no voice line nothing.

[hollow moth]

If it's a ghost shell, you'll not even see a shell mark, trust me.

[quaint gust]

Oh so what happened then??

[hollow moth]

I don't know, but I can guarantee to you that the only ghost shell that I made, which even the player support admitted that it was a ghost shot, did not have a shell hit mark

[slate peak]

jk

wow thats alot of german heavys

[worn skiff]

So what do y’all prefer for sniping between the obj 268 and obj 263? The 263 has accuracy and dpm but the 268 is all about that one shot damage

[thorny smelt]

I'm going for both

[thorny smelt]

I'm just a heavy tank and tank destroyer main

[worn skiff]

I feel like while the 263 does have a higher dpm, how often are you shooting as soon as you reload? Probably pretty rarely because you can’t see an enemy or don’t have a good angle on them

[thorny smelt]

VK 36.01 H with 7,5 cm Waffe gun

[hollow moth]

I legit use this gun on VK 36.01h

[thorny smelt]

This is also the gun I used on VK 30.01 H that really slaps. It has a good 157 mm pen for a medium tank.

🙀

[rigid thunder]

the 263 had its gun accuracy nerfed to oblivion last update, it now has the second worst base dispersion of tier 10 tds

[manic carbon]

Well if I was driving a 263 I wouldn’t be sniping in it.
As said above, the accuracy is pretty bad since it got significantly nerfed. The reason is likely to force players to use the mobility to be in closer ranged encounters

[somber spire]

What are your feelings on using the Tiger 1 and Tiger 2 in battle? Any tips and tricks?

[worn skiff]

Yeah I just realized that. I’m coming back to the game after playing a little about a year or two ago. Gotta relearn everything

[slender cliff]

They are great heavies but their modules are weak. So don’t get surprised if your engine gets damaged or your ammorack gets hit. Gun wise, the tiger 1 has a good 88mm which can decimate any tank (with slight difficulty at tier 8) and the same for the tiger 2 105cm. Armor wise, the tiger 1 has great armor at its tier and lower but no one will really struggle penning you at tier 8. You can also try angling into a diamond shape. For the tiger 2 the frontal armor is great but your turret is an easy pen for most guns at your tier and higher. You can also ram in the tiger 2 which is a big plus.

[stone berry]

i watch the ads but never get any gold.

[drifting grove]

No idea why. Contact support.

[acoustic ingot]

Internet problem probably

[hollow moth]

Skill issue Game problem for sure. go for the support

[wintry orchid]

Wtf the e75 is one of the best t9 tech tree heavies

[wintry orchid]

Smells like skill issue

[solid gate]

e5 or yoh better?

[wise moth]

Yoh by far

[solid gate]

okay ty

[violet timber]

Yoh is a bully tank, E5 is a shadow of it's former self

[wary bison]

Can anyone give me some advice on which path to go with from the m4 Sherman? M4A3E8, Chaffee or T37

[violet timber]

Easy 8, best starter line

[hard cedar]

Idk about that one chief

[thorny smelt]

M4A3E8

[hard cedar]

?

[violet timber]

The other two require more skill to make them work, the M48 line just requires some minor hulldown ability

[thorny smelt]

The M4A3E8 is also known as the 'Easy 8'

[plain obsidian]

I don't even own the tank lel

[hard cedar]

Not what I meant

[plain obsidian]

isn't there a tank literally called Easy Eight?

[violet timber]

Nope, just the M4A3E8's nickname

There is a Cold War design called the Light Assault Tank though

[violet timber]

Tutorial tank that is the M4A3E8 jsut reskinned

[plain obsidian]

I know what an easy eight is I was asking if there was a tank in wotb called easy eight

[thorny smelt]

That's its nickname. Easy 8

[plain obsidian]

cool

[plain obsidian]

...

duh?

[fresh grotto]

Rammer or Cali on Vickers?
VStabs or Refined Gun on Vickers?

[violet timber]

Vstabs, and probably cali for HESH

[fresh grotto]

Ok thanks

[glass relic]

How's the Wz-113gft after the buff from 8.2 seems like the cheeks armor is actually not a meme anymore and somehow it gotten 50 Engine power buff

[serene apex]

Has/will the e25 ever come into stores for gold?

[plucky summit]

Yes

[hard cedar]

It has, and i would guess it probably will again

[violet timber]

No, it's gone now. Forever. Never to return. Ever.

[fair cairn]

ok is7 simp

[violet timber]

IS-7 is fair and balanced.

[neat nimbus]

but wg did a good job in this battle pass

original tank based on that chaaffee with amxx 13 turret

[thorny smelt]

WOT Console: We have that tank and the name is AMX Chaffee

[neat nimbus]

really and it existed right i remember was a experiment from usa

[thorny smelt]

Yup

[valid gale]

It was French

[violet timber]

oh dogowisdom of the World of Tanks Blitz discord server, what is your wisdom?

[valid gale]

Iirc since the French had surplus US tanks after the war and some were lacking they wanted to update them they tested swapping the M3 with the 13-75s gun

That didn’t go well so they just decided to slap the chaffee turret onto amx hulls

[shell robin]

I wonder if the Maus is worth it?

[gloomy rune]

Historically?

[shell robin]

is the maus considered a part of the meta in game?

[gloomy rune]

what do you mean? I dont know the terms, but maus is nerfed

[hollow notch]

Lol
You call that a nerf?
Please
The maus is basically untouched

[shell robin]

nevermind.

[gloomy rune]

yes? The heslth reduction and dispersion increase

[gloomy rune]

it is touched, waddya mean

[hollow notch]

Health reduction:
Still the highest hp pool in the game

Accuracy nerf:
Oh no, I can't spawn camp as well anymore

Maus was completely unaffected by that nerf

[shell robin]

since no one will tell me if the maus is considered part of the meta, i'm gonna say no.

[hollow notch]

It does what it does outstandingly

The maus is definitely not a weak tank

[hard cedar]

yoh, is7, vickers, 113, patton, t22

[shell robin]

well, it's the only super heavy in the game, and no one wants the line I would like to implement (which is also a super heavy), so I mean, it's like I have no other options.

[hard cedar]

uh....e100, vk 72, and vk 90 exist

[shell robin]

a real super heavy.

[hard cedar]

if you're limiting yourself to what actually existed irl guess you can't play most of the tanks in the game

[shell robin]

the tank line I would like to play isn't in game, but is close to the maus.

unfortunately, everyone hates the line I want in the game, so the maus is like the only option.

[copper swan]

name the tank

[shell robin]

but is the maus actually part of the meta? is it worth getting a large tank that can't pen any other meta tank to save it's life?

[shell robin]

Type 5 heavy, Japanese heavy tank.

[copper swan]

oh

do you think you wanna get the upcoming 60TP

[shell robin]

why?

[hard cedar]

Yeah it's still pretty good

[shell robin]

I want a tank that plays similarly to the type 5 heavy, and the way I see it, only the maus can do that.

is there any other tank that plays at all similarly to the type 5?

anyone?

[hard cedar]

I don't know how the type 5 plays so idk

[onyx sluice]

E100.

It has a derp gun and flat armor that needs to be angled, similar to the Type 5.

[shell robin]

at least that's considered in the meta, I guess. thank you. a shame people don't want to balance the Type 5 in order to add it.

[nocturne tiger]

God I'm so not comfortable with the Russian gun depression

[thorny smelt]

Same

[onyx sluice]

Its not that it isn't balanced. More like the game isn't suited to handling that big of a tank, they already had to nerf the Maus size to fit it.

[gloomy rune]

Imagine u could hull down over steep hills with that stronk turret. The depression must be bad or it will be broken. Because russian meds have round turret, it stronk also because of low ceiling. obviously low ceiling needs the depression to play, since the gun inside the tank cannot raise any further, no dep angle as a consequence. So be happy that russian tank have no dep angle, you wont have to sacrifice turret armor this way

but what really messes with my brain is fv4005. The gun is placed up so high, but it has like 10 degrees of depression, but then like ONLY 8 degrees of elevation. Simply depressing, (haha funny pun right)

[shell robin]

the point stands that they don't want to balance it in any way, shape or form. change a few things about it and done.

[high briar]

Well if u want good gun depression, you can play the ST-I

But reminder for u, play the IS 7 line first, or its will be a super painful experiences.

[nocturne tiger]

I'm already going for IS-7 line, I'm just struggling to use the IS-8

[zealous anchor]

Are you rather aggressive in it

[solid gate]

I'm currently dying in the IS3 because I've never used a tank with a pike nose, I guess with the T2020 as an exception. It can't pen the lower plate of a tiger II (and has horrible aim but that can be fixed with crew and silver for equipment) but the biggest problem is that all my skills pertaining to angling ans sidescraping are kind of shot because in order to mask 2 plates, the 3rd is exposed no matter which side you face. Whereas something like the KV3, I can half-hide both the front and sides at a 30 ish degree angle and just wiggle to force the opponent to pick and choose whether they want to hit the side or front. That usually causes a bounce

[plucky summit]

Being unable to pen the LFP of a Tiger II is a commonality

[drifting grove]

IS-3 stock gun? That 175mm pen is useless.

[solid gate]

Max gun actually. Other than the Tiger II i can pen other heavies front on at my tier (lower plate) but given the aim/dispersion I can't reliably fight them. I only dissapoint my team so I make up for it by helping the meds

[drifting grove]

Almost no Tier VIII tank can pen the Tiger II's lower plate. Even with Tier X guns on my Tier IX tank, I struggle.

[solid gate]

yikes. I seem to be so de-tuned from the tier 8 climate because I've been playing ISU too much lately. Only recently I decided to go up some new lines

[finite ocean]

Finally bought the canarvon action x 😊

[lyric copper]

reverse sidescraping exists

[thick trout]

And it's very much not useful as there's still an easy pen area and you have to work with even worse gun depression, as well as relying on the reds not pushing at all...

[solid gate]

good tank. Didn't like it at first but didn't take long to adapt. DPS is great and you got a good front. Just always be near large cover because you have a somewhat high profile

[solid gate]

doesn't that take to long to prep though?

[onyx sluice]

It's not that hard to save up gold. I have over 6.5K.
All from ads and clan missions.

[solid gate]

aaaand now I realise my IS3 is getting penned by everything. Can this day get any worse?

[ancient star]

Its kinda powercreept anyways
Play it like heavium

[signal grail]

Is the Emil 1951 worth getting?

Or the Progetto 46?

[pure arrow]

WG when

[untold spire]

Is there a not so hard to get Tank destroyer with rotating turret? I just need one thats classified so I can do the "destroy X in a tank destroyer" missions. Something like rhm b wt but easier to get in the tree?

[drifting grove]

Hellcat and Wolverine.

[thorny smelt]

FV4005 line, T110E4 line

[untold spire]

@thorny smelt @drifting grove Great many thanks!! I would have expected "sadly no"

[drifting grove]

You're welcome.

@untold spire How do you get the TD missions though? You don't get missions that require you to use a particular type of tank if you have no tanks of that type.

[untold spire]

I totally get them all the time! I never play TD. Even when I get the missions I just ignore them

[drifting grove]

That means you have a TD in your garage.

[thorny smelt]

It is quite random like 'Win no. of battles in this specific type of tank'. The one that I hate the most is 'Win 3 Battles in a row'.

[untold spire]

ah yes, that I have! I just never play it!

but that is great info, then I will just sell that one instead!!

[solid gate]

In FV line they start off at tier VII, so I would rather go for Hellcat

[drifting grove]

I hate that too. The sheer number of times I've won two and then lost....

[onyx sluice]

Emil no, just get the tech tree one. Progetto is quite good if you're a good player.

[signal grail]

Kk thx

[drifting grove]

The Emil is good, but its techtree counterpart is better. If you want, get the Action X.

[thorny smelt]

I don't want to spend my gold on Action X Q_Q but the tank is so hecking annoying AF

[manic carbon]

You just wouldn’t be doing it that often - from my experience anyway.
It’s nice to know about it but I come across a situation where I need to perform that sort of manoeuvre rarely.

[violet timber]

I honestly think the Emil 1951 is better than the AX

[solid gate]

is lowe good?

[manic carbon]

AX is good but overrated by many people in my opinion

[violet timber]

Lowe is pretty good. It's got a nice gun, not as good armor as you'd expect for a heavy but it is workable, and meh speed. It's also pretty much the most profitable tank in game

[drifting grove]

I agree. The low alpha damage isn't all that good.

[solid gate]

oh hmm i was hoping is 2 berlin is in black friday

[violet timber]

Probably not, black friday mostly contains US tanks

[solid gate]

any good american tanks? uhh m6a2e1?

[manic carbon]

Pretty much it has DPM but it requires putting several shots at once to make it work, in a tier where many tanks are starting to pack 400~ alpha guns (especially on fellow heavy tanks).

I always find it straightforward to work around one. Using positioning to avoid taking multiple shots at a time whilst I am reloading

[violet timber]

If you want good American tanks, there's the T-34, and I guess the goose

[solid gate]

ohh okay

[drifting grove]

Don't forget the T54E2.

[violet timber]

Oh yeah, honestly forgot that existed

[solid gate]

oh the shark? hmm but i think tier 8 are too much i guess ill buy tier 6 or tier 7

[drifting grove]

Is the T34 good?

[solid gate]

SCAAAAM

[violet timber]

54E2 is probably the best American tank tier for tier aside from the tier 10 yoh. The T-34 is quite good due to turret armor and penetration

<@&481447501690568709> a kind soul wants you all to have nitro

[solid gate]

im planning to buy tier 6 and 7 not 8 because i think its too expensive anyway

hard to trust the scam nitro is spread

[violet timber]

If you want a tier 6-7 premium american tank, there is the HTC

[solid gate]

htc?? the tank destroyer but im bad at td

[violet timber]

HTC is more of a heavy than a td

[solid gate]

as far as the T34 and it's successor goes, they're all pretty ok. Just don't go fight a Tiger. Personally I stopped at T-34-85 because I left it for other lines, not because it was bad, but I wanted to expand

[drifting grove]

The American heavy, not the Soviet medium.

[solid gate]

anyelese because if theres not gokd tank or my favourite tank is too expensive ill just gonna buy tier 6s

[drifting grove]

r/ihadastroke

[violet timber]

I guess the Fury? But it's not gonna be sold and honestly any premium under tier 8 isn't worth getting imo, unless it's a Halloween tank

[manic carbon]

The T34 is decent still, but it’s been powercrept a bit over the years (surprise). Especially since the T32 received multiple buffs, and the introduction of the Shark and Sheriff.

[drifting grove]

Any premium under Tier VIII isn't worth getting unless it happens to be the Annihilator.

@manic carbon Okay, so the T34, T54E2 and the T26E5 are all really good?

[solid gate]

Oh, also pretty alright but it's a support heavy. It doesn't have the strong upper like the stock T32 American Heavy. If you do find yourself frontlining though, stay hulldown. I got one in the american bundle and I must say, it performed so well I got a Mastery off it despite losing. I was in a 1V4 with an M6AE2 (or somethin), a Jagtiger, Panther, and some other TD. It was a one off stroke of luck but it left a good impression. Future use was alright

[drifting grove]

I like hulldown heavies, so I'll probably like it. I'm grinding for the Yoh at the moment. (Already researched it, grinding credits now).

[manic carbon]

T54E2 and T26E5 are excellent tanks, I wouldn’t put the T34 at the same level as them but the T34 is still decent and can be enjoyable

[drifting grove]

Alright, thanks for the help.

[solid gate]

I like the yoh line. It left a bad taste with me initially since I've never played an autoloader before, but I ended up loving the line, except the tier 7 one. I still hate it. T110E5 also good hulldown heavy, good times

[violet timber]

T-34 can still compete just due to penetration numbers

[solid gate]

hmm..

[manic carbon]

The issue with the T34 is that it has no hull armour. It is a one trick hulldown pony. But even then you can shoot the hatch on top and tanks packing a little more penetration can just shoot the cheeks.
Tanks like the T32 and T26E5 just hold up much better in that regard whilst also having useable hull armour.
Of course the trade-off with the T32 is the gun but I found it to be manageable

[drifting grove]

I enjoyed the M-VII the least too, but I still liked it quite a lot. I also apparently did a good thing saving up 60k Free XP for the 120mm on the M-V, as the stock gun is pathetic.

[solid gate]

i want m6a2e1

[violet timber]

M6A2E1 has problems to say the least

[solid gate]

i have t26e5 but i dunno how to use it like should i br frontline or 2nd line because im always dead when overrruned by these obj252u and just gonn penn my lower plate

[violet timber]

Frontline and hull down

[drifting grove]

Having faced the T34, I can say that the hatch is less conspicuous than those of the Yohs. The turret is usually solid red, even if I've loaded gold shells. I'm okay with no hull armour, as I'm already playing the Yohs, which can be HEd in the hull.
What is the gun depression, by the way?

[manic carbon]

T34 has 10 degrees of gun depression

[solid gate]

hmm but i get overruned and alsays lose when using it honestly im bad at the guess

[drifting grove]

Brilliant. What about the T26E5 and the T54E2?

[solid gate]

10 degress

[drifting grove]

Stay with your team when hulldowning. Otherwise, you're guaranteed to get overrun.

[manic carbon]

T32, T26E5 and T54E2 all have 10 degrees and are just as capable if not better in hulldown positions

[violet timber]

Track them, you have the dpm to keep putting in shots

[solid gate]

but when i shoot tracks always blocked so i enevr shoot tracks again i dunno how thry broke tracks like that do i need switch to HE??

[manic carbon]

HE is better for module damage (i.e breaking tracks) but it won’t penetrate the tank through them, only splash

[drifting grove]

Hit the drive wheel.

[solid gate]

ohh

[violet timber]

Drive wheel or idler, depending on which one is in the front

[real plover]

Tier VII was fun to play for me. I managed to get an Ace in it

[drifting grove]

Meanwhile, I aced the Tier VIII M-III-Yoh. (This was a while back)

[pallid moss]

any suggestions for a tier 6 heavy? rn im grinding for kv2 or churchill7

[drifting grove]

Get the KV-1S.

[pallid moss]

ok

[drifting grove]

I'm saying so because almost all the tanks have awful stock guns and lead to painful stock grinds after the on the KV-2 line. Finishing the KV-1S (IS-7) line first unlocks several guns for the IS-4 (KV-2) line and makes it a lot easier.

[pallid moss]

ok, thnx

[thorny smelt]

Even just KV-1S for both lines

[solid gate]

And vice-versa. Since its designation is 'IS' series.

[pallid moss]

and for medium, which one is newbie-friendly for tier 6?

[mild otter]

Me waiting for another gold offer to spend my money on

[pallid tiger]

Thanks for m3 lee dev.

[modest solar]

E75 bad, change my mind

[nocturne tiger]

but...

[violet timber]

Good armor, good gun, not too bad mobility. You're wrong

[solid gate]

Huge lower plate though.

[violet timber]

Not much of a problem if you angle lol

[modest solar]

Angle isn't every game situation

[nocturne tiger]

What do you mean!?!??

[hollow notch]

Don't park in a field
User error

[violet timber]

Don't angle guys, totally not worth it

100% not worth angling

[steep flicker]

What’s the best tier 10 sniping TD?

[onyx sluice]

Grille.

[lyric copper]

one of the best tier 9 heavies is bad aight

[modest solar]

HAHAHHA

[worn skiff]

For crew is it better to focus training on one skill until it’s maxed or do a few levels of each along the way

[solid gate]

RU 251 or indien? RU right

[vocal igloo]

RU

[south panther]

Buff the 112 glacial, the acurracy its so terrible

[manic carbon]

I generally go for RU because it is more fun to play

[solid gate]

alr thx

[plucky summit]

It's basically the same as WZ-111, Celestial, and IS-6

[wicked mesa]

Playing kv1s is pure joy

[shell robin]

if you say so.

[warm tiger]

Thoughts on the new upcoming premium? /s

[pallid moss]

is t25 good?

[pallid moss]

grinding for that rn

[shell robin]

I never got the hang of it.

[blissful hamlet]

Grille, is the most accurate tank in the game

[violet timber]

2nd most accurate, but still pretty good. There is the Ho-Ri however that has more penetration if that's what you're after

Looking at everything, Grille may actually be the 4th most accurate lol

[delicate sluice]

Obj 268 can be a good sniper as well (camo) if you don't know how to play second line

[solid gate]

the tier 5 or the tier 7?

[pallid moss]

5

[solid gate]

pz 5/4 is better I think

[steep flicker]

I already have it. It’s not a sniper

[steep flicker]

How much dpm does ho ri have?

[delicate sluice]

I said it's a second line, but you can play it as a sniper if you don't know how to be more aggressive

[steep flicker]

Yea i guess its kinda hybrid but im pretty sure i know how to play it agressive

[shell robin]

2920 base dpm

[steep flicker]

And if i remember correctly grille has 3200 dpm right?

[shell robin]

si

[steep flicker]

Hmm I might go for ho ri instead since it’s armor is not paper

[shell robin]

it's sides and rear are paper.

[steep flicker]

I know, but grille is paper everywhere
And ho ri doesn’t have that much of a dpm difference

Im gonna ask reddit just to make sure im not making a dumb move

[hard cedar]

why would you ask reddit when you could ask someone who has a clue what they're doing

[shell robin]

you don't see many people like the Ho Ri anyways.

[hard cedar]

bruh whatchu mean most people say it's good

[steep flicker]

Actually maybe its best i choose grille
Because of accuracy

Wait which tank has better camo?

[shell robin]

i've seen nobody say that. i'm not saying it's terrible, but everyone slobbers over other td and end up leaving the ho ri in the back. whenever I asked people if it was good, they usually said "it's ok" if anything at all.

[steep flicker]

Idk anyone particularly that has a clue on discord either

[mighty tinsel]

Hey guys I got the BC 25 T.

Any tips?

[hard cedar]

I have never seen a single person say the hori is bad

[shell robin]

i've never seen a single person say anything about it. "it's ok" doesn't say whether a tank is bad or not.

[mighty tinsel]

Anyone?

[drifting nest]

Stay kinda second line in it. And try to peek a boom people from solid cover. Use ur mobility to ur advantage as well.

[hard cedar]

Hori is one of the most talked about tds here from what I've seen 🤷

[shell robin]

I've seen nobody talk about it here "from what I've seen". I do see a lot of 268 though.

[hard cedar]

You've only sent 200 messages here 🙃

[shell robin]

ok, einstein, when was the last time you saw someone talk about the ho ri before today.

[boreal spruce]

speed is key.
don't try to brawl
dump your clip and run
if in doubt. flee!
your hull is actually quite bouncy
use your tracks to bait shots
don't snipe
face your turret up when reloading and wiggle
the best French tech tree tank IMO. 🇫🇷 🥖

[hard cedar]

Yesterday afternoon

[shell robin]

yea, that's a lie and we both know that.

[hard cedar]

Type ho ri into the search function and the come back

[shell robin]

don't have to. I already looked,

[shell robin]

sober up and then come back.

[hard cedar]

Ok buddy

[shell robin]

that's the ho ri t1.

[floral rain]

grille 15 or ho ri type 1 i wonder which one to choose

[shell robin]

it's a tough decision...

[floral rain]

yeah i think the tier 11 edges out though

[shell robin]

you're probably right. (I'll just ignore the tier 11)

[boreal spruce]

hmm 🤔
while i think about that:
What tank is better?
KV-1S or a T110E5?????? hmmm 🙃

[shell robin]

allow me to one up you. Chi-Nu vs IS-7

[boreal spruce]

no no, KV-2 or Fv 183!!

[shell robin]

mighty derpin power crept.

[boreal spruce]

yes, yes it is. 🤯

[hard cedar]

The screenshot is the others aren't

[shell robin]

uh huh... Didn't see that either.

[hard cedar]

?

[shell robin]

I looked. I saw none of that.

[kindred wren]

Hello. I just wanted to say that the Ho-Ri Type III is good

[hard cedar]

Then you didn't search "ho ri" 🤷‍♂️

[shell robin]

I did. still saw nothin.

[hard cedar]

🤨

[shell robin]

nobody said it was bad. Or at least no one here did.

[kindred wren]

I get 186 pages full of Ho-Ri, mostly about the insane prammo pen

[kindred wren]

I didn‘t say that anyone said it‘s bad. I said it‘s good

[shell robin]

just be glad jageroo doesn't have it's 420mm prammo pen like it does on pc

[hard cedar]

Jageroo has 418 prammo pen with cs in blitz

[kindred wren]

Why? Not like it makes much of a difference

[boreal spruce]

2mm 🤏

[shell robin]

well, why not? think of the (name a tank) players.

[kindred wren]

Leopard 1

[shell robin]

yea, think of the Leopard 1 players.

[kindred wren]

thinks
No, doesn‘t make a difference to them

[shell robin]

I need to get my Ho-Ri back and just abuse the prammo whenever i come across an IS-7.

maybe put calibrated shells on too, idk. would calibrated shell replace the rammer on a tank with as good pen as the Ho-Ri?

[kindred wren]

Well, since the prammo is AP, you fail to triple overmatch 50mm of armour and because it‘s mostly normalisation that wins you the day against steeply angled armour I think that calibrated shells are a bit wasted

[shell robin]

dammit. I was hoping for a tank that can make swiss cheese out of the front of an IS-7.

[solid gate]

Guys can any1 join me in a platoon 12 times please, i need for my last challenge to get the 600 point chest

[floral rain]

it technically does with calibrated heat so...

[shell robin]

a shame it still can't hurt an IS-7

[fair cairn]

Okay dude

[shell robin]

what?

[fair cairn]

The is7 is pretty damn swiss cheese even with 375 heat

If youre having that much trouble penning the front of an is7 you have a serious skill issue

[shell robin]

or a serious tank or f2p issue.

[floral rain]

ho ri prammo at 399 easily goes through the front plate of an is7 with absolutely no contention

[fair cairn]

When you realize that the e5, is4, kran, hori, jg, etc etc are all in the techtree

[shell robin]

I plan on getting the Ho-Ri back. Never had any of the other tanks.

[fair cairn]

So how is it a f2p issue then. Stop crying

[shell robin]

i've had my fair share of tier 10 battles. tell me to stop crying when you aren't so full of sh*t.

[fair cairn]

Imagine having to resort to childish and foolish insults to prove a point you cant prove

[shell robin]

imagine trying to prove a point that a person has actually seen as wrong.

[violet timber]

IS-7 upper plate is butter to pretty much any non-med prammo at tier 10.

[shell robin]

except for STB-1 apparently.

[floral rain]

pretty much non-med prammo
stb-1
o7

[fair cairn]

It has 330 pen as well

[violet timber]

"pretty much", I didn't say all lol

[shell robin]

I must be playing the wrong tanks if I can't pen the front of an IS-7 like it doesn't exist, like @fair cairn says.

[shell robin]

missed the non- part.

[fair cairn]

Dude the tanks are fine u just cant play the game

[shell robin]

bullsh*t the tanks are fine.

[fair cairn]

Lmao skill issue. Git gud clown

[violet timber]

The IS-7 also has a lower plate and the cheeks right beside the gun are still weak, even if the hitskin says otherwise

[boreal spruce]

sad M48 turret cheeks....

[violet timber]

Double IS-7 platoon is fair and balanced.

[shell robin]

use a medium every once in a while, kiddo. really, just don't try to bullsh*t me.

[boreal spruce]

⚖️

[fair cairn]

Realizes that my most played tanks at tier 10 are mediums.

[floral rain]

there's a thing called shooting the lower plate or just not caring about the is7 but you do you

[boreal spruce]

🤯 what!!!! this man is a genius! Lmao

[shell robin]

i've tried both. it's hard "not caring about it" when you see one every match you play in.

[floral rain]

i mean if you're adamant about fighting a front-on is7 in a med every game i can see how you get 4 shots in a game

[fair cairn]

Few things: learn to aim and dont sit in front of heavies in mediums lmao. I also suggest you apply for a job at a the circus since clowns make 50k a year and youre performing for us for free.

[shell robin]

i'm adamant about fighting an IS-7, not seeing my shots bounce off the side or rear everytime.

[floral rain]

then go fight another tank

[shell robin]

and if it's the only tank on their team? then what? camp?

[fair cairn]

OMG totally not a skill issue!! You absolute clown lmao

[floral rain]

then you shoot the lower plate, between tracks and spaced armor, or rear
and try not to miss shots
this tactic is also known as "not shooting the red highlights"

[shell robin]

I don't shoot at the red highlights, and they still bounce.

[floral rain]

then go on blitzhangar and know where and where not to shoot

[violet timber]

Double IS-7 platoon is fair and balanced.

[boreal spruce]

bear in mind this side armour is angled BTW

[shell robin]

I've tried every trick in the f*cking book dude, and nothing works. Nothing.

[floral rain]

well that's on you because it certainly works for other players

[fair cairn]

Clearly its the game and not you mr 1k avg

[shell robin]

It must be me then. because nothing works against an IS-7 for me. works on a maus and e100 no problem. but IS-7, ooh no.

[floral rain]

to give you some credit the is7's sides now have really weird armor profiles but there's always the option of just going to the rear and getting free pens everywhere

[shell robin]

and you don't think I've tried that?

[floral rain]

if you're still bouncing the rear i don't know what else to say because unless you shoot the tracks or something the entire rear can be penned with 150mm of pen found on tier 6s

there's always the option of using the time to practice shots instead of talking on discord but hey you do you

[boreal spruce]

lmao 🤯

[shell robin]

@floral rain read this again. read it and tell me I haven't tried everything.

[floral rain]

the one thing you haven't tried yet is literally just aim better

there's no crazy angles, no spaced armor, simply a 100mm slab of armor and 245 > 104 by around a factor of 2.5

[shell robin]

then how come I shoot a non-red part of the rear and it still bounces?

[floral rain]

because you aren't aiming better

[shell robin]

I have a better idea. let's go into a training room, you and me. you use an IS-7, and I use my stb. neither of us use cover. I just circle of death you, and we'll see if "aiming better" works.

i know it's a waste of time for you, but i'm out of things to say other than, it's invulnerable no matter what I do.

[floral rain]

yeah ok im down for that
actually wait i dont have an is7 lol

[kindred wren]

Can I spectate?

[shell robin]

do you have an IS-7?

[kindred wren]

I need an IS-7 to spectate?

I don‘t, I play on EU and only have a tier two on NA because that‘s what you get for free

[shell robin]

dammit all to hell.

aim better, they say. It'll get easier, they say. we'll see about that.

[floral rain]

i could just free xp the entire is7 line right now

[fair cairn]

Yes just freaking. Get. Good

You wont

[shell robin]

if you want go ahead. I'm not gonna force you.

[steep flicker]

Is IS-7 now better than IS-4 since the buff?

[boreal spruce]

personally yes. but meta wise. it is definitely at or higher than the IS-4

[hard cedar]

I have an is7 😎

[boreal spruce]

we are not Worthy!!

[kindred wren]

How to flex the entire vehicle discussion channel 101

[shell robin]

wanna do a training room with me?

[hard cedar]

Sure I'll be on in 5m

[hollow moth]

Meh, I have aced Leichtraktor.

[boreal spruce]

flex!

[shell robin]

what's your user?

[floral rain]

@shell robin who's making the room
bro i literally just free xp'd the line

[hard cedar]

It is in my username I'll make the room

[shell robin]

i'll make it and invite you. I guess you user is right there.

[floral rain]

unstablepoptart

[shell robin]

invited

[hard cedar]

Wow

[boreal spruce]

unstable poptart? hmmm
i see a trend @floral rain 🤔

[kindred wren]

Are training rooms by chance locked for people who only have tier two? XD

[boreal spruce]

nah, you can go into a training room with any tier!

[hard cedar]

ok im on what room name

[fair cairn]

Wait let me in @shell robin

[solid gate]

What’s a good gun to use with mv-vii?

[fair cairn]

Search his ign on yhe right

[floral rain]

@shell robin congrats out of 9 shots on my rear you penned 8 of them

ok yeah i think i found your problem, you rush your shots a lot

[violet timber]

Nah, you don't have an IS-7, you have a bully wagon

[shell robin]

that may be it. everything is so fast to me, I just get lost and just fire away.

[violet timber]

The game overall isn't that fast till you get into close quarters combat. You usually have at least half a second or so to think before you do anything

[kindred wren]

That gets better with experience

At one point you‘ll just chain automatism after automatism and wonder why you even play this game anymore

And then you will fondly look back at how you circled poptard and smile

[shell robin]

yea. there's other tanks that give me problems, but those are for another day, I reckon. Now, to grind for the E 100.

[violet timber]

Looking at your averages, it seems to me that you play more aggressively than you game knowledge and skill allow you to

[shell robin]

that's because I often get teams where nobody wants to push. they give that job to me.

[violet timber]

Sit back and conserve HP, don't let your team force you into a position you don't like. If you have the opportunity, pushing is good, but if it gets you killed you shouldn't do it

[solid gate]

any good way to improve mv vii

[violet timber]

Huh?

[solid gate]

mv-vii-yoh

absolute doodoo it made me fold an easy clutch

[mortal quiver]

I messed up when I got tier 8, I didn't clock that I needed to use a slower speed play style I was still caught up in the 1-7 fast play style I ended up with a 9 game losing streak

[solid gate]

Heard the t10 is worth it tho

[violet timber]

Hulldown I guess. Not much more you can do

[neat nimbus]

Is worth the Emil 1954

[violet timber]

Not at this price lol

[solid gate]

Good advice I clutched a 1v4 with it 😂

[delicate sluice]

It's worth it if you can get it in the bundle with the prog 46

[neat nimbus]

i have the poggetto

[neat nimbus]

wg wont add a heavy italians tanks

[hollow perch]

Wait till we get another broken tank in Halloween

[neat nimbus]

unless they do some changes or prepare everything before putting them and dang that means i need 200 pesos

[valid gale]

The heavy Italians aren’t even broken and from what I hear bad on pc

[onyx sluice]

The tier 10 Rhinoceronte is pretty bad, the recent are avarage.

[valid gale]

Which is a shame the rhino is the most virtually appealing and has one of the best looking guns I’ve seen

[solid gate]

why i always see m10 wolverine gun without muzzle break is the max gun on the m10 never used??

[neat nimbus]

theres enough room for a pumpkin

[solid gate]

But the room is moving up and down and maybe is difficult to add a pumpkin on this ?

[thorny smelt]

I love my IS-5

[kindred wren]

What are you referring to?

[thorny smelt]

That's an inter-clip time between shells. When you shoot the first shell, there is a like so called a pause before you shoot the next shell, this case 3 seconds. The advantage of auto-reloader is that when you miss a shot, you can just reload the shell, not the whole clip which in this case 3.

Yup. When you shoot, you need to wait for the next shell to load in before you can shoot again.

[kindred wren]

The intra-clip is 3 seconds, and the tank doesn‘t really have an inter-clip but I guess you could just add the individual reload times

3s is solid standard

[hot fulcrum]

Object 268 or 263

[violet timber]

268

[elfin meadow]

What’s wrong with it? (I don’t play pc anymore, no idea what any of these new tanks they have are like)

[wise moth]

Not really; you have to wait for the 3s interclip, then 3.36s for the shell to rechamber

So 6.36s in total

[onyx sluice]

There is not any one thing wrong with it rather that every stat is underwhelming, its a disappointment after the tier 9.

[wise moth]

The last shell doesn’t have to wait for the interclip timer, so the last shell is just 7.19s

[valid kraken]

Soviet Medium tanks good? Tier 6+

[hard cedar]

Lights better

[plucky summit]

<@&481447501690568709> these two funny people threw these up in every channel

[vocal igloo]

Yea lol

[plucky summit]

=l

[calm drum]

Rodri#8492 was softbanned

Fqcuuu#7804 was softbanned

Rodri#0828 was banned

[plucky summit]

Oh dang didn't see the third

[vernal socket]

mk, I need to get better in the su-130pm

[real plover]

Holy moley three bans

[static tangle]

maus or e100? vs is7 and also what are meta tanks in top tier non td

[hard cedar]

Is7 is pretty meta now

[kindred wren]

M-VI-Yoh, Kranvagn, IS-7, M48 Patton and the E 50 M are popular picks for meta tanks

[pallid moss]

IS or Yoh series??

[kindred wren]

If you ask like that probably the Yoh tanks

[pallid moss]

i have both IS and M6 unlocked and enough credits to buy one
i have heard alot about both is and yoh
now im confused, which way to go first

[kindred wren]

I recommend getting the Yoh first

[pallid moss]

ok, thnx

[kindred wren]

Though definitely get the IS-7 too if you can and enjoy aggressive heavy gameplay

[pallid moss]

im at Tier 5 rn

[kindred wren]

Oh, I thought you‘re at tier nine already XD

[pallid moss]

;-;

[kindred wren]

Well, in that case you might want to do both lines simultaneously. It will take longer but you get a bit of variation and it generally gives you more options on where to focus your free xp and credits

[pallid moss]

thnx, i'll do that, first i unlocked M6 and now i did KV-1s

[violet timber]

I’d honestly say IS line first because they’re easier to play

[wise moth]

The Yoh line might honestly be easier to play, although both lines are easy

[drifting grove]

Depends entirely on whether you prefer to hulldown or sidescrape.

[wise moth]

You shouldn’t sidescrape in general, and both lines are meant for hulldown

[stuck inlet]

is t22 med good for sidescraping?

[kindred wren]

Yes

[drifting grove]

How on Earth are you supposed to hulldown with 5° of gun depression?

[kindred wren]

I disagree with the first statement but agree with the second, though the IS-7 is still better at sidescraping than the M-VI-Yoh

[vernal socket]

the is-7 hull buff was huge too

[wise moth]

5 degrees is fine, especially since the super forward mounted turret and low profile make it a lot easier. Here’s an example of a hulldown with 5 degrees of gun depression. You can also work with terrain features to have one side of the tank ride up onto a small bump to tilt the tank allowing you to gain extra gun depression over the side

[drifting grove]

Ahh..... I see.

[hollow notch]

Oof, that again
I would greatly prefer peeking unloaded enemies that just wasted their shot than loaded ones

[worn skiff]

What line is better to learn with: E100, IS 7, or IS 4?

[hollow notch]

Not is4

E100 line is probably easier to play with, but the is7 line will teach better habits around cover

[worn skiff]

I’ve really been working on side scraping and stuff. Lot to learn. I figured e100 would be better for forcing you to learn how to angle your tank and turret where as is7 is just face directly at them or only let them see your turret

[kindred wren]

The E 100 line is well rounded in the sense that it has numerous characteristics that make it exemplary for using different positions, be it hulldown, sidescraping, lower-plate down, sniping or peek-a-boo

I believe it to be the best learning line in the game

[static tangle]

how does is4 differ from is7

[paper wraith]

is 7 has these tilted pieces of armour, that dont have much armour on them anyways and it makes the low plate bigger

[violet timber]

IS-4 is slower and has a smaller gun, it’s more meant to angle and hold positions. The IS-7 is faster and has a bigger gun, letting it push a lot easier on unsuspecting enemies

[paper wraith]

is 4 has way better armour and has smaller lower plate i forgot how its called and idk the rest like speed

[lyric copper]

The IS-7 is faster, does more damage etc

[shell robin]

I wouldn't say better, more like more effective armor.

[lyric copper]

it has the better armour profile however

[shell robin]

yea, more effective. if I was to say it was better, it would be based on raw armor. Like how a Hetzer has less armor than a matilda. but it's angled in such a way that makes it more effective.

[hard cedar]

🥴

[thick trout]

Since the buff that's a little debatable, the IS7 is now troll everywhere unless you are shooting right at its back which isn't a common scenario.

[grand linden]

honestly the is7 hasnt changed much except its the most infuriating tank to shoot at now

[violet timber]

Personally I think the IS-7 just purely outclasses the IS-4 now. Better mobility, better armor, and a better gun kind of make the IS-4 a bit irrelevant

[kindred wren]

Sir. They literally only changes the lower sides. How come that suddenly the armour of the IS-7 is better when before everyone proclaimed that the armour of the IS-4 is better?

[violet timber]

They also changed the turret, making it nearly impenetrable. While it’s not totally impenetrable, the hit skin shows all red meaning people won’t shoot. This is the biggest difference for me

[kindred wren]

The turret cheeks never were a weakspot and nobody ever managed to reliably hit them

[violet timber]

The cheeks were more of a weak spot than they are on the IS-4, and now it’s basically non-existent

[hard cedar]

The turret cheeks were 100% a glaring weak spot to heavy heat before

[shell robin]

sounds like IS-7 is a hassle against a medium, but is basically small fry against other heavies like, say, an E100. like a medium hunter, if you know what I mean.

fighting the IS-7 last night though, @violet timber has a point. the only good spot on the turret is the back, and when an IS-7 backs himself up to a corner, it's immune to any medium fire, bar maybe the leopard if we're talking about standard ammmo.

[kindred wren]

If they hit, which they didn‘t. I never ever saw anyone even try to hit my cheeks because it‘s just a cast of the dice

[violet timber]

It wasn’t really that hard before, the weak spot was relatively large. Now it still exists but the hitskin says it doesn’t so people don’t shoot

[kindred wren]

You can still shoot the lower plate if you are at a relatively low angle, and once you see a bit of the sides you can always shoot the first track wheel

[violet timber]

It’s uncanny the amount of people I see avoid the first track wheel

[kindred wren]

I repeat, nobody I ever watched shot it and it was only a weakspot on paper

[thick trout]

If I was in a tank in a strong position I'd go for the cheeks of the IS7 before the buff but it wasn't common to be in a situation where I could aim enough as well as a situation where I couldn't just shoot somewhere easier

[untold spire]

so just got my 3,6 million silver to buy M103, any serious last minutes arguments its bad? I looooved both t29 and t32, i understand M103 is different, not as OP armor but better gun and still quite fast for a heavy which is most important to me. Really happy in that 28 kmh range

[shell robin]

cupola is an easy weakspot.

[stuck inlet]

is Obj.140 better or T62A

[wise moth]

62A

[delicate sluice]

It's more mobility and gun oriented than the previous

[violet timber]

Should you run EA or health on the 50TP?

[delicate sluice]

Hp

[dusk tree]

is AMX CDC worth buying?

[violet timber]

It's a high skill ceiling tank since it's more of a big light, but it can be very fun

If you're looking for a good french med, I'd suggest the 30 1er if you can afford it. Very fast, good turret, and a decent gun to boot. It's overall a lot better and more fun than the CDC

[dusk tree]

i want tier 8

[boreal spruce]

its a Dracula at tier 8. but its big. and has no armour.

[dusk tree]

but its worse than FCM 50t right?

[boreal spruce]

yes, unless you like ramming......

[dusk tree]

fcm for ramming?

[boreal spruce]

it can. cause its heavy (53 tons vs cdc's 33 tons)

but if you want a fast rammer get the panther 2 (55km topspeed and 53 tons also)

[dusk tree]

ooh... i think i better buy the CDC when it's deal is in the shop

[boreal spruce]

you looking for a fun tier 8 med or a premo for credit grinding?

[dusk tree]

not just for credits... i want fun and exciting, maybe hard to use to challenge my skills.. also i want a french one

[boreal spruce]

CDC has good DPM

[dusk tree]

how much is the lowest price for CDC? and do they sell them on black friday?

[boreal spruce]

for credits go for the 50t or m4a1 revalorise
if i had to pick one i would get either the Lorraine or the m4a1 rev.

[dusk tree]

i want a cheap fun tank

[boreal spruce]

#761648718578843659 message
some tanks from last year's BP deals.

5K on average for a tier 8 Tonk

[dusk tree]

what's with the link

[boreal spruce]

if you want a cheap fun tank go for whatever you want mate! don't let me influence you to get a tank you don't want!
The link is Blitz Post's screenshots of some of last year's Black Friday deals

[dusk tree]

well ok... i've decided

thanks for the infos

[boreal spruce]

no worries. go have fun Tanking ! 👍

[minor nexus]

Best light tank in tier 10?

[boreal spruce]

Vickers
but really, its the best brawler
the BC is the best spotter
and sheridan is the most fun.

[paper star]

so what is the best heavy tank tier 9

[boreal spruce]

ooh
IMO
E75, 1st
ST1 2nd
M103 3rd

[paper star]

ok

[minor nexus]

Oh ok thanks

[modest solar]

My panther 1 just win 1v1 with smasher and I'm proud with that. Finally a revenge

Wg don't nerf this tank pls ;~;

[thorny smelt]

It the anti-Smasher and anti-Annihilator

[drifting grove]

M-V-Yoh.

[solar sorrel]

I'm confused about choosing between the Kranvagn, IS-7, and VK 72.01 k, can you guys help me?

[past fractal]

@boreal spruce I’d rank the M103 a bit higher since its gun is pretty nasty and it has special consumables. And its fun tonk

[copper swan]

How to play Progetto 65 with it's weak turret and overmatchable hull

[shell robin]

So, I managed to just max out my new tier 6, and now I need some tips based on the VK 36.01 H.

[drifting grove]

Kranvagn.

[untold spire]

@shell robin @delicate sluice Ok, many thanks you guys!

[shell robin]

uhh... yw? (i forgot our conversations. what were we talking about?)

[paper star]

what is the BEST tank in the game

in techtree

[shell robin]

uhh... ARL V39?

[paper star]

nope

tier 1 tank caus you need to update it to get better tank

[tepid ore]

no
its one of the worst

[solid gate]

nuh, ARL V39 is really good, fast reload for 300 damage shell

and a not so bad armor for a td, it's a good one !

[shell robin]

I mean, what am I supposed to say? That 1 tank can do it all?

[mellow wasp]

Best tier x researchable for rating battles?

[gloomy rune]

You need a tank to carry. You cant say whats the best, but id suggest med or light, with wz121 being popular because of its gun and accuracy, plus the turret stronk too

[mellow wasp]

Vickers is good?, used to play my t62a but its just not good

[gloomy rune]

Vickers is good. For flexibility use heat gun. If good at hesh then use hesh

[zealous anchor]

Since when did vickers have alt gun tho

[manic carbon]

British lights are quite good yes

[solid gate]

Tell me is the vk72 any good because im almost done with german line ups just leopard and vk to go

[violet timber]

Top three are K-91, 50TP, and then E75

[violet timber]

It’s meh overall

[solid gate]

Similar to E100 or maus?

[violet timber]

Sort of, but worse than both of them

[manic carbon]

The VK 72 is the most simple to play because it’s just about keeping your armour front on without any angling for maximum effectiveness.
Maus and E-100 require knowledge of how to effectively angle the armour to make it effective

[solid gate]

Oh ok but im looking for something that is fun to play overall like play style wise im more hull down cqc kind of dude not into camping unless its ma jageroo

[manic carbon]

Well the german superheavies are certainly close quarter vehicles, always by the frontline.

[mellow wasp]

Grille good?

[violet timber]

It’s average

[fluid carbon]

its a different beast compared to waffle...you basically trade all the waffle have for accuracy, reload speed, and top speed

[fluid carbon]

for me it's the ARL 44

[violet timber]

Tier for tier the best probably the anni

[winter rover]

Is the E75TS worth buying if I have the lowe already?

[brave night]

Tiger 2 also exists so no, plus it was available for free in an event a year ago

[drifting grove]

If you want a sidescraping Tier VIII, wait for the Obj252U.

[winter rover]

Obj252u isn't sold for 6k gold tho is it?

[drifting grove]

8.5k usually, but it has been sold for 5k in the past.

[real quarry]

Foch 155, Buff it or keep it the same?(if Buff it, how would you Buff it)

[real quarry]

I mean the TS has a fckton of Spaced Armor on the Sides so just present your Side Hull to a T49 and watch him Bounce

[real quarry]

Lemme list all the things other Tier 10s do better than the Foch: 183&Jageroo have Alpha,Armor and Penetration. FV4005 has an easier to use Clip with superior Traverse&superior Accuracy. Grille has Laser Accuracy,More Effective “Armor”. 263&HoRi have better Penetration, Armor and probably DPM. E3&E4 have Armor and Normal Dmg for their Gun Caliber. 268 is the Jack-of-All-Trades of Tier 10 TDs with more effective Armor, a better Gun, and similar maneuverability.

All Tier 10 TDs in the TechTree also have solid Tier 9s before them, and the Tier 9 Foch is flat out better than the Foch155

#BuffFoch155

[nocturne tiger]

Wait what Foch 155 is worser than the tier 9 one? How so?

[real quarry]

Tier 9 is Cheaper,doesn’t face as much Tier 10(faces Tier 8 instead of always Tier 10),and the 120mm is better than the Foch’s 155mm Guns.

120mm has more stable Accuracy&DPM IIRC

The Foch&Foch155 are in the same position as the Waffle&Grille. The Tier 9 is flatout better than the Tier 10 IMO.

[plucky summit]

Well when you said flat out better than Foch 155, you probably should have mentioned tier for tier, Foch 155 will give Foch a bad time

[pallid moss]

how tf do i become better at side scraping and angling, any tips plz?🤦‍♂️

[real quarry]

Yeah I meant that. Honestly the only true advantage the 155 has over it’s Tier 9 is the fact that it has more HP

[plucky summit]

You have to know what weakspots your tank has, what tank do you need help with?

[pallid moss]

matilda, kv1

[real quarry]

Play alot of German Heavies or Russian Heavies,KV-1,Tiger 2, and most of the Heavies in both IS Lines and all 3 German Heavy Lines are good Sidescrapers

KV-1 is a very good Starter Sidescraper

[plucky summit]

It's actually pretty bad

[pallid moss]

i try to do it, but opponents just team up on me 🤦‍♂️

[real quarry]

It’ll teach some basics for SideCraping

[real quarry]

Exactly why you need to know when to stay and when to GTFO

[pallid moss]

maybe i lack patience

[plucky summit]

KV-1 can only really sidescrape against tier 4s

Even then, when they load prammo, the armor just falls apart

KV-1 would be a great reverse sidescraper if it wasn't for the decently weak turret

In the end, the KV-1 is a bad tank overall, a shame to what it used to be

[nocturne tiger]

I kind of didn't find it that bad it's just that the other HTs in its tier are so much better in every aspect..

[plucky summit]

Which makes it bad ._.

[nocturne tiger]

Yeah nevermind I got no defense for the tank

[wintry orchid]

Foch 155 3k base dpm just saying

[real quarry]

But said 3k Base DPM doesn’t make up for pretty much every other Stat being mediocre. Only genuinely good things about Foch 155 is how fast it cycles it’s AutoLoader and how fast the Tank is, everything else is meh

[mellow wasp]

Which line?

[onyx sluice]

Driving E100
Grille charges you
HE loaded
Grille dosent use spall liner
Fire
Hits the tracks
350 damage

:D

[wintry orchid]

Only got 50b, quite liking it. Do you have Vickers tho? If not get it

[sudden relic]

go for the bat chat, i know it's gonna be a pain but it's really fun for me, Foch is better if you know how to not show your lower plate and hide your sides.

[mellow wasp]

Not yet., im doing multiple lines at once so i can utilize the 2x xp.

[sudden relic]

DON'T do multiple lines, i made that mistake and i got to 50k battles and i didn't touch almost some tier 10s. Focus on one single nation and then anotehr and another

[wintry orchid]

My favourite after 215b and is4 nerfs

[mellow wasp]

Why? isnt it just utilizing 2x xp everyday. Just means i play all my tanks with 2x then play my main tank.

[wintry orchid]

Well two at the same time isn’t that bad I feel. So if you suck at one (like me) or wanna play different things a second one is ok for me

[sudden relic]

if you play one tree every time you can get to the tank faster if you know what to do.
@wintry orchid Understandable.

[drifting grove]

Exactly what I did. I'm F2P and grinded the entire Yoh tree from scratch in about 10 days.

[sudden relic]

i f2p every tech tree. That's why i have over 4k hours on phone and 1.1k hours on pc

[north bloom]

can we talk about how obj 263 is invincibile now

[sudden relic]

You use gold. or circle it

[valid gale]

Meds with cs struggle to pen it

[north bloom]

meanwhile the WZ TD

[sudden relic]

HO-RI just doesn't give one

[hard cedar]

Yes let's ignore the lower plate on the 263 while looking at the lower plate of the 113

[north bloom]

that is the upper SIDE

[valid gale]

That’s an upper front

[hard cedar]

The big rectangle is the 113 armored area

[north bloom]

lower plates are always weaknesses but the upper front should not be easily penned

[drifting grove]

Almost all gold shells at Tier X can penetrate that.
My Yoh HEAT has 372, I think.

[north bloom]

yea, you're forced to heat it even as a TD

[hard cedar]

You can't, because it's spaced armor

[north bloom]

THAT TOO?

[drifting grove]

Oh, wait, what? And the rest of it?

[north bloom]

if it facehugs you,you're as good as dead

[violet timber]

Engine deck

[hard cedar]

No just the mantlet
@north bloom engine deck

[sudden relic]

engine deck.

[violet timber]

I said it first, nub

[north bloom]

say if im a low profile heavy, im still struggling to pen

[hard cedar]

Clearly a skill issue

[sudden relic]

i agree.

[north bloom]

then i look at wz 113G FT and the stronger armor it got is on the sides. Front is easily heatable by everything

[plucky summit]

I mean you shouldn't be in a facehug with a 263 as a low-profile heavy

Also 263 is literally meant to be an assault tank, WZ snipes more

[violet timber]

Overmatch

[sudden relic]

i love overmatch. it saves me every time

[north bloom]

oh? even at extreme angle?

[violet timber]

Yes, the point of overmatch mechanics is that it will pen at any angle

[sudden relic]

yessir

[real quarry]

If you like Heavies go down 50B Line, if you like Light Tanks go down the Batchat line. If you like Tank Destroyers don’t go down the Foch line for the Tier 10, do it for the Tier 8&9 which are both very nice Tanks.

[valid gale]

*attempt to pen
It doesn’t work because game physics it’s just a pen buff

[hard cedar]

50b isn't a heavy if you like "traditional" heavies don't go for it

[north bloom]

more like DPS heavy with a funny turret

[shell robin]

Speaking of heavies (sorry to take the conversation away), I got my vk 36 last night, and I'm trying to wrap my head around it. it's got a decent gun, it's at least faster than the arl, but I rarely bounce anything, probably because of the flat armor. anyone got some tips?

[violet timber]

It has the highest top speed of any heavy in the game

[shell robin]

i'm only at like, an 80% crew, so I'm not feeling the speed yet.

what should I use the speed for? taking places before anyone else?

[worn skiff]

Which gun should I use for the VK 36 01 H?

[violet timber]

It’s honestly doesn’t really get to its top speed unless going down a hill. The tanks main strength is its armor which is quite good

[worn skiff]

Really have to angle and don’t let the lower front plate be seen

[violet timber]

8,8 cm

[shell robin]

That's a large glacis for such a small heavy.

[worn skiff]

You sure it’s better than the 7,5/5,5 waffle?

[violet timber]

Yup

Ok most tanks alpha beats out dpm because overall alpha is a better stat to have

[shell robin]

For no pen gain, and an extra 60 dmg, i'd agree.

[worn skiff]

What makes it better? The 7,5/5,5 has better dpm, weighs less, better reload speed, and better pen

[violet timber]

The alpha. Dpm becomes useless one the enemy realizes cover exists and you’re a heavy, trading is the name of the game

[shell robin]

7mm better pen isn't noticeable, I've come to realize. 10-20mm pen difference is though.

[worn skiff]

Thanks for the input yall I appreciate it

[shell robin]

Here i am talking about the vk like i actually know the tank.

[violet timber]

I’m here talking about the VK like it hasn’t been a year since I played it

[worn skiff]

It’s a decent tank to side scrape with I have bounced a lot like that. It’s just horribly vertical across the entire front

[violet timber]

It’s very flat so angling works wonders

[worn skiff]

Yeah angling is big time

[violet timber]

The more dimensions you can add to your armor, the better

[shell robin]

Well, I'm starting a new line since I completed Japan. It'll be made irrelevant by the next update, but it's closer to my dream tank than almost anything else. Also, how do i angle. I never learned about doing it.

[worn skiff]

What’s the next update? How will the vk be irrelevant? And angling Is just turning your tank so instead of facing an enemy head on, you put a corner closest to them so no shot from them will hit your tank from a roughly perpendicular angle

[violet timber]

I’m not on my pc right now so I can’t give you a ss, but you can probably angle at about 25 degrees from the wall and still be okay

[shell robin]

The VK won't be irrelevant, the E100 will be by the polish 60tp

[worn skiff]

Oh snap that’s not exciting. I haven’t seen anything about the new update. How will the polish 60tp be a hard counter to the e100?

[shell robin]

Imagine an IS-7 with the gun of an E100. That's basically the 60tp.

[violet timber]

The 60TP will have overall better turret armor which will let it hulldown better, and since this game is pretty much just hulldown simulator, it’ll be better

[worn skiff]

Well snap which line will it be in

[violet timber]

EU

[drifting grove]

Don't forget the new consumables for the Polish tanks.

[shell robin]

When the blitz team is too lazy to add italy, sweden, and poland tech trees.

[violet timber]

Tungsten shells op

[drifting grove]

Only 2-3 shots max though.

[worn skiff]

Hull down is just having your hull below a ridge and your turret sticking above the hill so that’s the only thing the enemy sees right?

[violet timber]

That’s still ridiculously strong

[drifting grove]

By the way, are the tanks in the T29-T110E5 line hulldowners?

[violet timber]

Yes, the entire line is made to hull down

[hard cedar]

e5 isn't worth getting anymore

[drifting grove]

Any bad tanks in it? In my experience facing them, the T29, M103 and T110E5 all seem really powerful.

@hard cedar I want that frontal armour that the E5 has but the Yoh doesn't.

[violet timber]

Sadge, my first tier 10 is not op anymore

@drifting grove the E5 is now the worst tier for tier, so there aren’t really any bad tanks

[trim ibex]

People will say the e5 it’s my worth it any@ore but it’s still very much a viable tank, the rest of the line is solid too

[drifting grove]

Is it really? They seem quite powerful when I'm opposing them.

@hard cedar Better than the Yoh's, all the same.

[hard cedar]

The e5s hull armor isn't really that great honestly

[trim ibex]

It’s a hill down tank lmao

[violet timber]

Tier for tier it is the worst in the line

[drifting grove]

Okay then. Which other line is there, which has 9°-10° gun depression and decent frontal armour and a solid turret for hulldown?

[trim ibex]

For heavies specifically?

[violet timber]

Yoh and kran

[drifting grove]

Already have the Yoh. And I'd rather have one without an auto-(re)loader because of that.

Wait for 60TP? They're hulldowners too, right?

[violet timber]

Then I’m sorry to say the line you’re looking for doesn’t exist

[trim ibex]

I don’t think it has much fun depression but I would wait for it nonetheless, it seems really good

[violet timber]

Yeah

[shell robin]

The line I'm looking for isn't even on blitz.

[drifting grove]

I'm not starting immediately. I've only recently got the Yoh and I want to get full equipment and 100% crew on it first. (86% crew and 4/9 slots done so far).

[trim ibex]

You’ve got time lol

[drifting grove]

About two weeks, to be precise. That will do well.
I can use this time to stack up on FXP. 18k and counting at the moment.
I've also FXPd up to the Strv m/24, which is where the new line is supposed to start.

[violet timber]

You may be able to get enough for the first tank in the line

[trim ibex]

Ya, that’s the play I think, I’ve got almost 300k free xp but I plan to grind through the line anyways lol

[drifting grove]

I know. That's what I want. The problem now is credits. I'm F2P and only have the Pudel.
Also, I'm saving up for Black Friday. 5,128 gold at the moment.

[violet timber]

I’ve got 500k and the plan is to get the 60TP as fast as possible

[hard cedar]

I spent all my fxp on the 4005

[violet timber]

Imagine fxping the poop barn

[drifting grove]

Doombarn. It has the 183mm as well in War Thunder.

[violet timber]

It’s not a doom barn, it’s the poop barn

[shell robin]

I'm still hoping that japan gets a little more love than just importing a bunch of lackluster prems.

[plucky summit]

I free XP'd the 183 line

[drifting grove]

Fv4005 with 183:

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, images.mp4

[drifting grove]

I think I should do that....

[hard cedar]

Do not

[plucky summit]

I did it because I don't feel like playing a terrible line just to get to a tank that has the opposite playstyle

[hard cedar]

Just don't ever play the line ggez

[plucky summit]

I didn't play the line, except the Alecto, AT2, and 183 :3

[shell robin]

I must be terrible at hulldown if I couldn't ever get the hang of the Sherman when I played it...

[hard cedar]

I'm pretty sure Sherman can't hulldown but I never play t5 so idk

[shell robin]

i meant the E8. the t6

either that, i haven't practiced hulldown enough.

[hard cedar]

Idk if easy 8 can hulldown either

[high anvil]

Have enough credits for another tier 10. Jageroo or Grille?

Already have the tanks I want for sweaty gameplay, so I'm mostly interested in which is the most fun to play

[boreal spruce]

jageroo. its lolz in gravity mode and uprising

[hard cedar]

Grille!

[worn skiff]

Would y’all recommend working two different tank lines simultaneously or just grinding one?

[violet timber]

I’d recommend probably 3 lines at once as it will give you a good amount of experience with each tank before moving on to the next one

[worn skiff]

That’s fair. I’m currently working towards the obj 268 and e100. What would you recommend as a strong third option? I’m new btw so currently only have 1 t6 and nothing higher

[violet timber]

Probably the M48 or 62a lines

[worn skiff]

Thanks I’ll look into those

[hollow moth]

that's the most full 4k image I ever have seen

[high anvil]

M48 is a great tier 10 but the line isn’t, almost every vehicle is subpar or average at best. T62A line is much better for a tier 10 that’s also good

[boreal spruce]

i would always say to have 2 lines at least.
3 if you very brave!
for example, right now i am grinding both the 183 line and Grille 15.
The only problem for grinding multiple lines is you run out of free exp and credits always.....

[violet timber]

The only real problem in the M48 line is the T20, the rest are actual good and prepare you really well for the tier 10

[hollow notch]

The t20 actually has a bit of alpha to work with as far as tier 7 meds are concerned
The real problem is the pershing, which does nothing well

[worn skiff]

In your opinion is the M48 better than the T62A? I don’t mind if the line isn’t spectacular I’d prefer getting a solid tank at the end

And just making sure I got it, the m48 is the m48 Patton right? 😅😬

[rigid thunder]

Yes, it is

[high anvil]

M48 is the best tier 10 med rn in my opinion, objectively it’s the only one that’s mattered in tournament meta

[shell robin]

the T62A has better armor profile and speed than the M48. That's all I know.

[worn skiff]

How long do metas typically last in this game?

Do certain tanks reign supreme for a year or more or just a few months

[shell robin]

depends on the tank. I reckon the IS-7 will remain the meta, but I'm betting the 60tp will replace the E100. Some stand the test of time, others dead on arrival

[brave night]

60tp would replace is4 in some situations

[worn skiff]

Well the 60tp doesn’t seem like it’s built to do the same thing as the e100. The e100 is certainly not built to duke it out going hull down over a ridge and the 60tp doesn’t seem like it’s made to be right in the middle of a town trading hit points

[brave night]

60tp is more of an is4 with a big daddy gun

[shell robin]

60tp has the E100 gun and has armor like an IS-7.

[solid gate]

I need some major advice. i just cannot deal with the IS3 having a fully grey hull

[violet timber]

Hull down

[solid gate]

you can't really always do that. very terrian dependant. Take canal or vineyards, or heavy side desert sands. On top of that you gotta go with your team. They won't always go to favourable spots

[violet timber]

Learn the terrain on each map, it's not that hard

Occasionally you won't be able to go to your favorite spots. Learn the terrain on each map and adapt

[solid gate]

How many battles you got under your belt?

[hollow notch]

6

[violet timber]

I got about 2 battles, I think i know what I'm talking about

I also like to think I know what I’m talking about when it comes to the IS-3

[hollow notch]

27 battles, what a noob

[violet timber]

I got lots of x5 xp boosters for it lol

[solid gate]

say, how would you peek over a sand dune only exposing the turret despite 5 degrees of gun depression?
because I just had to do that on Oasis Palms and I'm telling ya it can't be done with the exception of one VERY lucky shot on an E75's cupola. Only won because their E75 and Mauschen were silly and just rushed after being in a hulldown stalemate