vehicles-discussion

[vagrant badge]

But it's fun tho. I love to use it in Burning Mode, but its ammo price is too high compare to a 15cm ammunition.

[vocal igloo]

Its Tier 10 tanks, ofc the ammo price is high

[vagrant badge]

Well ofc I know about that, but its price is too ridiculous compare to a single unit of 15cm. I guess british tank is for rich boi who like to burn credits.

[manic carbon]

@solid gate You’ll enjoy the British lights, great few tanks to go down

[solid gate]

Oki ! thanks :D

I will go for them after the IS7 and the Object 263

[vocal igloo]

Su100M1 suck

[vagrant badge]

Obviously, no reason to play it at all. I skipped it and SU101 as well. They are just too retarded to play.

[static harness]

Literally the only tank in that line (so far, am at the 122 54) that I liked was the su101
Don't know why

It sucks compared to everything else

[vocal igloo]

I just liked the Su 122 54 and the Obj, the Su100m1 and Su101 is suck, my opinion

[static harness]

I probably had god like rng while playing the 101
Kek

[junior pawn]

Is the kpfpz 70 any good ?

[violet timber]

It’s kinda average

[junior pawn]

For tier 9 premium heavy and also do I need to research and bought the tortoise ? I do have at 15 currently now

[remote sentinel]

don't buy tortoise, I play tech tree of td uk but lot of battle brings little hope can brings FV 183 and no way that hope become true

[vocal igloo]

Skip It if u can, the gun is good, but the armor is meh

[thorny smelt]

I know MBT-70 has a weak hull but it is quite powerful when played well

[proven river]

The armor isn't meh, it's straight up bad.

[jade nimbus]

Please how are you supposed to play the KV4, its so slow, and the bs cupola just makes me want to kms

[vocal igloo]

In my opinion, the armor is meh

[violet timber]

Angle up and just accept the fact that your cupola is gonna be penned

[jade nimbus]

god I hate this tank

[lyric copper]

it can still bounce at certain angles

[thorny smelt]

Go for the stock turret if you don't like the top turret.

[hot fulcrum]

BRUH why's the KV-2 one shotting me EVERY DAMN TIME?

[vocal igloo]

Avoid the Kv-2 then

Especially if u are Tier 5 Light tank/Medium

[manic carbon]

KV-2 has the ability to one shot tanks with its large caliber gun.
Try to stay at range as the accuracy is awful on the 152mm.
Mid tier tanks can also use equipment slots that reduce the damage or penetration of high caliber guns.
If you have no choice but to take a shot, try wiggling the hull around as the HE shell cannot penetrate your hull if it hits the tracks. Avoiding being one shotted for all your HP and receiving splash damage instead

[thorny smelt]

Any thoughts about Shashmurin's IS-2?

[proven lake]

???

[thorny smelt]

IS-2Sh

[proven lake]

mm it's good with sidescraping

[junior pawn]

So, what is the best gamestyle for the kpfpz 70 ?

[cinder hatch]

Hull down

[junior pawn]

I just use the wot armor inspector app and it show the kpfpz 70 turret is almost invisible, most gun from tier 8 to 9

[proven river]

Everything can bounce if they can hold strange angles, but that doesn't mean the Tortoise's front armor is bad, and should be buffed.

[proven lake]

should i get the p43 bis

[solid gate]

the P44 pantera is really good

I think you should get the P43bis

[hollow moth]

Oh, hi. Lost something at this corner?

[untold moss]

And feel the suffering of P43 ter

[solid gate]

p43 ter is not this bad

it's perhaps a bit hard to play, but it's a good tank

[hollow moth]

It's brother, P43 Anni., is basically the same thing but slightly just better in almost every aspect. It's one of the best mediums in the tier 6.

[nimble venture]

i HATE the p43

[thorny smelt]

I got the M3 Lee, Grant, whatever it is

[hollow moth]

That's the Lee. M3 Grant is the British variation.

[thorny smelt]

I know. I know. I know they look the same.

[lyric copper]

wrong, Grant variant has no MG in the commander’s cupola, and the mini-turret is larger to accommodate the radio

@thorny smelt

[hollow moth]

As I said, it's the british variation.

[lyric copper]

and I’m noting the differences

[hollow moth]

Ah, ok

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H8c9658b81aba4698b9b9547783b44bd8e/Takom-2086-1-35-brit-nico-m-dio-tanque-m3-grant-modelo-kit.jpg_q50.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qByFtZZZ8PQ/maxresdefault.jpg

The Lee on this image looks demilitarized, but the image looks kinda too old to be from nowadays. Perhaps a museum show off in 70's?

[lyric copper]

most likely

[solid gate]

i think putting a legendary camo on char B1 is nice

[plucky summit]

They probably won’t do it for a tier 4

Perhaps if they did, AMX 40 might be first 😂

[solid gate]

since char b1 used in ww1 and ww2 maybe legendary camo is possible?

[lyric copper]

the Char B1 was not even developed anywhere close to WW1

you’re thinking of the Char 2C, which didn’t see WW1 either

[hollow moth]

It was made in ww1 standards, but really far away from ww1

[lyric copper]

iirc it was after the Spanish Civil War

[solid gate]

hmm so the tech tree tier 4 b1 is not real??

[lyric copper]

no, it’s real, the Char B1 participated in the Battle of France, it’s 60mm of frontal armour actually proved quite effective at defeating most tank cannons at the time

in fact, the Char B1 Bis is what we have in the game, the normal B1 had 40mm of frontal armour

[solid gate]

yea thats what in talking about since its been used like i was hoping they have legendary camo hmm

[hollow moth]

Chad B1 vs Virging I, II, III

[lyric copper]

chad hull mount 75mm vs virgin turret 75mm

[hollow moth]

Chad howitzers used as cannon vs Virgin actual cannon

[lyric copper]

average Wehrmacht fan
VS
Typical Bundeswehr enjoyer

[proven river]

What about you?

[hollow moth]

Gravedigger be digging a grave

[proven river]

I recreated this moment, a memory I had from ages ago, when I first went up the E-100 line, like, 3 or 4 years ago...

[plucky summit]

Maybe 3, not sure when Grave came out, 2018?

[valid gale]

First mad games

[proven river]

Me in my VK-36, first meeting a Gravedigger, It got to marked on my mind so much, I had to get the Grave on the last auction.

[plucky summit]

You could have asked me to use a Grave :p

[proven river]

Although I haven't used it much, I still love it.

Probably the only OP Fantasy tank that I wanted to have.

[plucky summit]

It's not OP, people got used to the fact it had weakspots :p

[valid gale]

I don’t get the stigma against “fantasy” tanks

[hollow moth]

I feel the same for Helsing. Once I got abused by this MBT wannabe while on my first trip to 268, at some point I used to say that Helsing was my most wanted tank in the game. Now since the Christmas event, It's my best tank in therms of WN8 in at least 100 battles.

[plucky summit]

I Mastered Helsing with a Kolobanovs and 6 kills on my first battle

[hollow moth]

Damn, that's too much

[plucky summit]

Yeah, had to wiggle off a T71's clip as a one-shot to enter 98 cap and kill him

[proven river]

The stigma comes from two sides, one, people that came for the historical tanks, and two, people that dislike broken tanks.

[valid gale]

Most fantasy tanks aren’t even broken only one that comes to mind is the smasher which is wgs own creation tanks such as , nameless Hafen,edelweiss,lupus,lycan vindicator or predator aren’t even broken including grave digger

And second this game isn’t even known for historical accuracy as over half of the tech trees involve unfinished projects and some straight up faked

[hollow moth]

Meanwhile there appears Lycan, the least liked fantasy tank.

[plucky summit]

Waahhh I can't damage the ammo rack waaahhh

[valid gale]

I completely forgot to mention Vulcan but then again no one remembers that thing

[proven river]

Smasher and Annihilators are broken tanks, and because they're fantasy tanks, all fantasy tanks get bunched up.

@hollow moth I think the Lycan is only disliked become it isn't really "special", sure, you can't damage it's internal modules, but is that really that special? The Dracula can't be tracked, the Helsing has a 400 something burst alpha double barreled cannon and can zoom around, etc.

[hollow moth]

Sorry, but what is a Vulcan? I legit don't remember what it is.

[plucky summit]

I think Vulcan was pretty cool, I think the ineffective armor was what killed it

[valid gale]

It was the weird tiger 2 valkyria chronicles tank with flame decals and scrap metal on its body

[hollow moth]

Still don't remember

[valid gale]

I did address the smasher and even then they are outnumbered to other “fantasy” tanks that aren’t broken which is funny the two that wg did come up with on their own are broken

[plucky summit]

Without the spaced armor it looks like the scrapper failed to crush a Tiger P

[proven river]

I didn't really say Accuracy, but Tanks, people want Tigers, Mauses, and a bunch of real designed tanks, not WG made, or Anime, or Other Media tanks.

@hollow moth https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/vulcan

[hollow moth]

Ah, this is a Vulcan

[plucky summit]

I actually like the look of the Vulcan, I just didn't want to purchase it at the time due to my financial doubts :p

[valid gale]

And I said again this games not known for accuracy as over half of the tech trees dont exist the upcoming 60 TP being entirely paper the 215B being fake the Chinese 5A and etc

[hollow moth]

I have a whole list of all fake tanks in tier 10, can I send it?

[valid gale]

Go ahead of course

[plucky summit]

List Of Fake Tanks In Tier 10:
Not the IS-7 😎

[proven river]

Again, I never said Accuracy, I said historical tanks.

Yes, most of the Chinese tree is fake, everyone knows this, same with the Polish HTs.

[valid gale]

So how’s that historical?

[proven river]

It's not, as you said.

[valid gale]

So how in any way does the game have a historical appeal for people who want to play for them

[proven river]

Good thing I only used Tigers and Mauses as my examples, and not the stupid Chinese tree, or half of the Euro Tree, afaik.

[valid gale]

Because kuro mori mine a saddingly accurate in its own way of a tiger 1 in tier 6 facing tanks that were meant to face it sucks bad unsurprisingly same goes for tiger 1 pre buff

[proven river]

If you want better accuracy, get a Tiger 131.

[valid gale]

It’s not even accurate to the real life one btw

[proven river]

How's that list coming up?

@valid gale that's strange.

[hollow moth]

I'm not finding it, but I'm sure I've made a list listing diverse tanks that never came out of blueprints

I feel like if I have dementia, I really made it but I'm not finding

[proven river]

The worst part of searching for a tank in WoTB, is that you get drowned by a bunch in-game reviews and WG's forums talking about it.

[hollow moth]

Well, there's no problem, I can remake it but spare us of details

[proven river]

I'm starting to think the Vickers Light isn't real.

[valid gale]

It isn’t real

[proven river]

So, 2* out of 3 Light tanks on tier X are real, that's great (*: Sheridan Missile is just a M551 Sheridan, basically the same tank).

I think a fourth of the Tier X Meds are fake, or were at least not made.

[valid gale]

It’s the pilot model to be more accurate the production model has a sloped rear

[proven river]

The Obj 907 was designed only, right? I see it listed on Wikipedia, but there's no article.

Oh actually, the 907's hull and turret existed.

https://i.redd.it/bl6uvtuzhbj41.jpg

[lyric copper]

thank god the 907 isn’t broken like it is on PC

[hollow moth]

Firstly, what I'll consider as fake tank? Didn't get out of blueprints, Never was completely built

T110E5, T57 Heavy, M-VI Yoh, T96E6, T110E4, T110E3, Obj 260, Obj 263, T22 medium, Obj 907, E50M, Kampfpanzer 50t, E100, Vk 72, Vk 90, Jagdpanzer E100, Grille 15, vickers light, FV 4204, Fv 215b, Fv 215 183, Badger, Ho-ri, Wz 121b, Wz 113, Wz 111 5A, Wz 113G ft, AMX M4 mle. 54, AMX 50 Foch (it actually existed, but the top 155mm auto loader cannon technically make it fake), progetto 65, TVP, Kran, 60tp

Probably the fakest are either Jagdpzaner E100, Vk 90, E50M or 60tp

[proven river]

E-50 M too.

It and the VK-90 are definitely WG's creations.

[hollow moth]

E50M is based in E50, which technically existed in blueprints

[bitter shore]

Alr lets just agree that Sherman firefly is paper thats laminated

[hollow moth]

So... half of the tier 10 never existed in real steel. Want to play in this completely historical accurate game?

[hollow moth]

Glass cannons be like

[proven river]

Still, as we are treating the E-50 M as a different Tank, and it's a copyrighted design by WG, we should call it Fakest too.

[hollow moth]

Fair enough

[vernal socket]

What if WG actually balanced their game?

[hollow moth]

You can go to #tank-balance-discussion and show your balancing ideas at any time

[proven river]

I went on and compiled the info on an Excel sheet.

Out of 52 tanks in tier X, 20 are fake, 8 were designed but forgotten, and 23 are real.

[hollow moth]

Did you count FV 215? WG says it's real but it's actually totally fake

[proven river]

Most of the Mediums are real, 11 out of 16.

And most of the TDs are fake, with 7 out of 12 being fake.

While the Heavies are balanced, 8 real, 8 fake, with 4 just designed.

Also, yes, I added a comment about the FV215b, it was designed...

The thing is, the FV215b is what the British called our FV215B 183.

The Heavy Tank version is basically fake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conqueror_(tank)#Variants

[hollow moth]

Wait a bit, I counted about 30

[proven river]

I made a distinction between truly fake, designed and real.

Example, the Deathstar was designed but never made, while the British Tech Tree Tier X Heavy Tank, was never a thing until WG needed one for the Brit Tech tree..

[hollow moth]

But I counted exactly 33 tanks (actually 32, Foch exists, but it's version in blitz with a 155mm auto loader cannon don't exist.)

You counted 20 fake and 8 only designed. We have a a 4 tank gap here. @proven river

[proven river]

20 fakes, 8 designed, and 23 made.

That's 51, add the Sheridan Missile, and that's 52.

I can share the spreadsheet if necessary.

[hollow moth]

I suppose that you counted tanks that had metal-made mock ups, like the T-22 and 907

[hollow moth]

I'd love to see the spreadsheet

[proven river]

Yes.

[proven river]

This is it.

[mellow wasp]

T62a or ojb 140

[proven river]

What are you looking for?

[hollow moth]

T-62a is a sniper version, Obj 140 is meant for brawl (or at least trying to brawl)

[mellow wasp]

DPM, Kind of all around

[plucky summit]

I mean, T-62A serves that

[mellow wasp]

Something similair to T-54 but upgraded would be very nice to have.

[plucky summit]

Yup that's T-62A

[proven river]

@hollow mothHave you looked at the sheet already?

[hollow moth]

Nope, I'm eating

[proven river]

I see.

[umbral jungle]

now who doesn't love a little Vindicator action

[shell robin]

me. i've never owned it.

[proven river]

Me either.

[light orbit]

Something Else than a VK 90 Worth buying?

[proven river]

If you want broken OP stuff, maybe the Smasher.

[light orbit]

PZ 2j

[hollow moth]

• There's an old picture of a mock up from 263, it was designed
  https://wiki.gcdn.co/images/thumb/a/a4/Objekt_263_002.jpg/320px-Objekt_263_002.jpg
  https://www.facebook.com/705205009623865/posts/object-263-tank-destroyer-130mm-gun-is-mounted-in-a-rear-in-a-semi-enclosed-figh/1924451257699228/
• T-22 and 907 didn't have operational vehicles, only mockups used for testing the armor, I'd classify them as designed, not real
• E100, Kranvagn and Maus never had operational mockups, I'd call them as designed
• Fv4202 and Fv 4005 were testing platforms, but I'll accept this

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/object-263.htm

[light orbit]

I have 18k Gold i think i want the vk 90 good? (Something better?).

[hollow moth]

Fair enough?

[boreal spruce]

💯

[boreal spruce]

vk 90 is very nice, personally i would go for the AMX m4 mle 54 though

[plucky summit]

VK 90.01 P : Master of the Urban Engagements
AMX M4 mle 54: Master of the Rural Engagements

[light orbit]

i am a Havy Armor guy

[hollow moth]

Chaffe: master of doing nothing and dying by a tier 7 minding it's own business

[plucky summit]

If you want a brute for armor, get VK 90.01 P, if you want a chunky hulldown god, get AMX M4 mle 54

[hollow moth]

The AMX have a pretty good frontal tho

[proven river]

Here's my definitions:

Made: Was at least made close to 1:1 scale with the blueprints, 907 and T-22 had a hull made, that is enough under my definition.

Designed: Drawn, theorized, etc, mostly in paper and maybe in a small scale model, the T110 family is an example.

Fake: if I can't find governmental documentation about the tank, or if I know WG made it, it's fake.

I'll probably add these definitions to the sheet, in better terms.

About the E-100, Maus, Kran, 4202 and 4005:

E-100 had a hull made, that is enough for my definition.

Maus had 2 prototypes made.

Kranvagn is another name for the tanks in the Emil Project, it had, afaik, a chassis made, dunno how of that constitutes a hull, but I think it's enough.

4202 is basically a full tank, 4005 had 2 prototypes made.

Also, thanks for the 263 stuff, I'll change it to Made in my spreadshee.

[plucky summit]

Yes but it can be quite weak to prammo and the lower plate is rather large, as well as weak sides

[boreal spruce]

the LFP is divided into 2 parts though..... but the sides are paper and it is big!

[plucky summit]

Well I guess I can say both the MFP and LFP are weak

[boreal spruce]

🧻 side armour 😂

[plucky summit]

But if you find one hulldown using gun depression, don't even try

@boreal spruce I've already mentioned the weak sides >:l

[shell robin]

so while everyone's busy trying to decide what's fake and what isn't, I'm gonna dream of adding another tank the japanese, this time it would be tier 6.

[hollow moth]

I would change at least the E100 as none have any idea about what turret it would have irl. The square turret makes sense, but under Germany's condition in 1945, they would use something like the Maus' turret because it was already widely used in bunkers

[proven river]

A TD?

[boreal spruce]

🤣 lol sry! no worries. all french have bad side amour.... 🇫🇷

[shell robin]

a second td, yes. and a counterpart to the Hi-Ro Sha i mentioned yesterday.

[plucky summit]

The side armor isn't even paper, sure, it's defeated easily by everything that isn't HE, but only a select few can HE/HESH the sides

[boreal spruce]

yep, in warthunder the E100 has a maus turret

[proven river]

I did add a note to the E-100, saying that the Hull was made, but not the turret we have.

So, it was made, but not fully.

[plucky summit]

It's far better than AMX 50 B's sides too

[hollow moth]

You could put only E-1##. Half of the word for half of a tank lmao

[boreal spruce]

most tanks experimentals though....
kranvagn,
E100
etc

i like the turret 🤣

[plucky summit]

T103 moment

[boreal spruce]

hehe looks good........😁

[shell robin]

To the right of this picture is the tank I talked about yesterday, the Hi-Ro Sha. To the left if what this whole paragraph is about, the Ji-Ro Sha. Much less is known about it than it's brother, however here's what is known: It was another variant of the Type 95 heavy, It was also to have a Type 92 10cm, had similar armor and speed, and is closed, unlike the Hi-Ro. The thing this thing has over it's brother, and why I want it tier 6, is because it was also planned to have a 15cm Type 96. This means that the Ji-Ro can have interchangeable guns like some of the premiums, such as the Jagdtiger 88.

[boreal spruce]

Japanese experimentals have such funny names. !!😆

[light orbit]

vk 90 vs AMX m4 54 ?

[boreal spruce]

like this good looking lad!

[hollow moth]

T-103 would really be an interesting tank in the game, in blitz I'd put it in tier 7.

[boreal spruce]

what is your fav tank to play? (just so i know which tank would suit you best)

[shell robin]

isn't it a tier 8 on pc?

[plucky summit]

yes

[hollow moth]

Exactly.

[light orbit]

i am good at playing think Armor idk

[boreal spruce]

T1 heavy or KV 1?

[shell robin]

T1 heavy

[hollow moth]

Just to know, what is your main language?

[light orbit]

@boreal spruce T1 of course KV useless Paper armor

German@hollow moth

[hollow moth]

Pre nerf KV-1 > T1 heavy > post nerf KV-1

[boreal spruce]

which is more your fav: american Heavy line or the Maus /IS-4 line?

[light orbit]

Maus t1e3(both before nerf)

[boreal spruce]

then go for the VK 90. more in line with the tanks you play.
But if you want to bully meds and lights, go for the AMX 54. 👍

[light orbit]

waht are the pros and cons?

[boreal spruce]

Pros
AMX 54
Great frontal armour.
turret is impenetrable
speedy
Big 130mm gun
can ram
gun deppresion

Vk 90
turret cheeks are the best
sidescrape beast
High base Pen on the ammo
good gun depp of the sides.
Armour is king
@light orbit

[plucky summit]

Not only a 130mm, it has 20 bumped damage

[boreal spruce]

Cons
AMX 54
side armour is bad
tank is huge
priority target
hull is big and weak when the enemy loads premo
can be HE'ed

VK 90
Slow (30km)
Sides are large
Turret Hatch
Team Dependant
Rear turret means the hull is always in the wrong position 😁
@light orbit

[light orbit]

how much better IS VK Armor?(best Armor in Game?)Side scrape

[hollow moth]

I would never say that a rear turreted position in a sidescrape tank is a problem

[boreal spruce]

on a hull sidescraping it is a beast

[hollow moth]

As you just proved, rear turret in this tank is a pro

[sharp violet]

how do you play medium tanks? i'm trying to get through the japan tanks line and i have 0 idea what i should be doing as a medium

[boreal spruce]

the armour profile only works when front on so not as sidescraping friendly

[light orbit]

Price?

[plucky summit]

Just don't sidescrape in mle 54, but it can be hulldown, and easier than VK90

[boreal spruce]

vk 90 was the 2019 christmas tank
amx was the 2020 christmas tank
Badger was in store a few months ago for 17K. and chieftan was in store for 20k.
i would expect 18k+ for both.
they better not be in crates though....😡

@light orbit
if you want a easy sometimes hulldown tank that can bully meds get the AMX
if you want a sidescraping beast (and like that playstyle) that can bully heavys then i would get the vk90.
your choice mate, whatever you want! dont let me change what you want mate! 👍

[light orbit]

AMX vs Havy?

[boreal spruce]

as in AMX m4 mle 54 vs any heavy?

[light orbit]

jes

@boreal spruce idk why but AMX was new to me that ITS that Strong. waht about chieftain and all other ones

[boreal spruce]

chieftain has a similar playstyle to the amx. albeit smaller. more compact, and has a better legendary camo 😂

[light orbit]

ITS Armor seems worse

[boreal spruce]

the turret is not as great. (against TD's though) but it is smaller and has more gun deppresion

[light orbit]

and Others Tanks?

[boreal spruce]

Chieftan has more DPM than the AMX, and has Premo HE (110mm HE) but its a 120mm

Which Heavys you want?

don't say all of them 🤣

[sharp violet]

Ok, so right now i am really really confused on what line to go.
My preferred playstyle is Second Line, either support or main damager.
Has enough armor that i can bounce shots from medium tanks.
and it is 20+ reverse speed and 35+ forward speed.

Any recommendations? (on dms)

[plucky summit]

M-VI-Yoh of course

[kindred wren]

The VK 90’s armour is way superior to the AMX M4 54‘s armour, but that doesn‘t mean that the AMX is poorly armoured

[boreal spruce]

US Med line.
Japanes Med line
just meds or other types?

[sharp violet]

Ohh yeah i forgot to mention, i want something that hits hard, so no med tanks pls

[plucky summit]

M-VI-Yoh...?

[sharp violet]

will take into account

[boreal spruce]

Yoh is great.
E 100 line
IS7 line

you like Autoloaders?

[sharp violet]

Autoloader means..?

[plucky summit]

Tanks that fire multiple times, then reload them all

[kindred wren]

That sounds like medium killers, but those aren‘t second line tanks

[sharp violet]

Yeah, autoloaders are cool

[boreal spruce]

long reload. than a short reload (3secs normally) for 3 shells then a long reload again etc
AMX 50b
T57
TVP50
BC 25T lines

[sharp violet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kindred wren]

You know, you look for a strong second line tank, but the thing about second line tanks is that they play in the second line because they aren‘t strong

[plucky summit]

Except Lowe™

[kindred wren]

Löwe isn‘t a second line tank you camper 👿

How to escalate 101

[plucky summit]

Well appreciate that I'm not using its laser accuracy to snipe >:(

[boreal spruce]

🤣

[sharp violet]

I was checking out TDs for that kinda thing, with the jackson it worked.
I guess just any support works

[kindred wren]

Jackson is good alpha, good dpm, mediocre armour, good accuracy, low mobility

[hollow moth]

There's 4 types of medium tank

• Pseudo-light tanks: Dracula, AMC CDC, Leopard 1,
  Just do whatever a light does, you're just too big to be considered as a light

• Pseudo MBTs : Pre nerf Panther, Chimera, E50M
  You can allow youself to be more aggressive as your armor is great and it's quite common to block shots. But still have the normal Medium tank affairs: Go to to medium/light lanes, Hull down when possible, provide support when necessary to your team and clear the areas for your lights flank

• Glass cannons: Lorraine, M4a1 Rev, TVP
  All that God gave you is a cannon and sometimes a good turret, deal with it. You need to play a long-medium range fight but don't stand still, you'll have to to the average medium tank job if something goes wrong or if your team needs you there

• Average medium tank: T-34-85, Centurion 1, M48
  Most of the times you have these factors;
  Precise cannon with good good DPM, but the penetration or alpha are rarely above average
  Strong turret but fragile hull
  Good speed and transverse, but nothing incredible
  You're the Jack-of-all-trades, do everything you want, but avoid heavy tanks and TDs at all cost. Just avoid exposing your hull armor as it'll only save you against HE shells

[plucky summit]

The hull is kinda scary

@hollow moth T-62A is NOT a glass cannon

[kindred wren]

That‘s lowkey the T110E4

[boreal spruce]

its an odd layout

[light orbit]

@kindred wren need to use Maus AS a sniper

[sharp violet]

Pretty much i want the jackson but with a little more mobility, also the armor is mediocre and all but at least it can bounce mediums and lights and the M6 for some reason

[hollow moth]

God gave you precision for one single reason

[kindred wren]

Sounds like a good idea, let‘s do it in a double-platoon

[plucky summit]

Yeah but glass cannon and T-62A's turret do not go together

[boreal spruce]

💯 perfect.

[hollow moth]

I mean, M4A1 turret isn't that bad either

[kindred wren]

If you want to discount the turret then the Obj 268 might fit the description. However, its line is nothing like the Jackson, only the 268 itself gets remotely close

[plucky summit]

Yeah but at least the 62A is almost prammo-only

[hollow moth]

Ok, going to change it for TVP

[plucky summit]

<3

[kindred wren]

Also, if you want to afford it the AMX M4 54 sounds like a good choice for you

[sharp violet]

Alright so far i'll check out the Yoh, IS-7 and the BC-25T.
I really don't like fixed turrets haha

[kindred wren]

The BC doesn‘t have much armour but ok

[light orbit]

t-22

[plucky summit]

Name one fixed turret.

[sharp violet]

AT line, the Chi medium tanks, Jagdpanzer line, I think the Grille has limited movement for the turret?

[boreal spruce]

personally
OBJ.140 > T-62A
M60>M48
IS-7>IS-4
E100>Maus
IMO hehe 😃

[kindred wren]

The Japanese mediums all have fully rotatable turrets

[plucky summit]

They're not turrets if they're fixed, that's my point :p

[boreal spruce]

yep, wt auf pz iv has full rotation but the Grille 15 is only 90 degrees

[sharp violet]

Well i guess it's just the Chi Ha that has a fixed turret

[kindred wren]

No, it doesn‘t either

[light orbit]

i have a replay with at 2(tier5) over 2k blocked and damage

[sharp violet]

Bad memory i guess

The SaU 40 has a fixed turret ( i think it's called just no turret )
M3 Lee also no turret

[kindred wren]

Nice

[boreal spruce]

sad M3 Lee noises

[plucky summit]

Well, actually, I guess you can call M3 Lee a fixed turret tank, since Blitz doesn't care about it

[boreal spruce]

remember the BP with the Triomphant tank? the video has a M3 lee with a rotating turret!
At the 5 second mark in the vid

[hollow moth]

AMX 50B > T57
Post nerf IS-7 > IS-4 > pre nerf IS-7
M60 = M48
E100 > Maus
M6 EXP > T34
Vk 36 > ARL 44
Panzer 4 Schamalturm > P43 Anni. > CromB

C'mon people, judge me, I have a grudge against Cromb and don't believe it's the best med

[boreal spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlGv58FjNHU

[boreal spruce]

crom isnt the best med. IMO personally i like the vk 30p and the P43 bis. the Pz 4 S is a beast.

[light orbit]

waht about inniolator fast good gun good Armor good Support 😃

[kindred wren]

I was going to judge you regardless of what you‘d have put there

[boreal spruce]

Anni is a crazy tank. Smasher too. if you can get one of them for not too much cost get it!
@kindred wren 🤣

[kindred wren]

I refuse to even consider this thing a tank worthy of a ranking aside from top 1 worst tank for the game

[plucky summit]

"inniolator"
Stroke time

[boreal spruce]

cough T28 cough.

[kindred wren]

The T28 isn‘t bad for the game

[boreal spruce]

Shmooshor!!!

[solid gate]

Leopard

[boreal spruce]

🐆 ?

[hollow moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476885065377513482/892516435828551698/wadefook.mp4
When I see a 1 vs 1 of medium tanks

[light orbit]

maybe a Button to buy 100% health for 5€ in the middle of a fight

[proven river]

We have 3, be specific.

[solid gate]

The tier 5

[boreal spruce]

ah yes, the Fat Luchs. with a machine gun

[solid gate]

I started play 5 hours ago and I own it

[kindred wren]

Are you the voice singing while they fight?

[proven river]

What you need to know about it?

Flank, dump bursts in people's backs, and never get caught alone.

[solid gate]

Welp I always get caught by kv with aim assist

[boreal spruce]

What he said ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️
@solid gate

[proven river]

DO NOT RUSH UP THE TECH TREES.

Take your time with the Bot MM of a new player.

[kindred wren]

I do not support this sentiment

[solid gate]

My brother said to pick a tree and grind it

[kindred wren]

Do whatever you want to do, as long as you enjoy it. If you have a difficult time you could try another line or another tier

[boreal spruce]

yep, you go for it man! Whatever tank you like, you play!

[solid gate]

My brother plays pc world of tanks and he is really good like a nerd at it and apparently was in a really good clan

[proven river]

So you want players at tier VIII with less than 1k matches?

Because that's what I'd call a difficult time, for everyone.

[kindred wren]

Yes

[light orbit]

T1 Havy (Tier 5) new Player= good Tank
experienced= even better

[hollow moth]

No, I'm the dumbass with the TD that ruins the 1 vs 1

[kindred wren]

While singing?

[light orbit]

at 2 = Players who Like to See their mates from behind

[hollow moth]

Sometimes.

[kindred wren]

Awww, I got so excited I forgot to turn off the ping 👀

[hollow moth]

👀

[kindred wren]

Literally me

[boreal spruce]

you going to go for the RU 251 or Indien pz?

[solid gate]

I have no clue what any of them are

[hollow moth]

The frontline TD that struggles to go to frontline

[kindred wren]

I think he‘s just going for the entire German techtree

[solid gate]

Is the vk 28.01 good

[hollow moth]

Kinda

[kindred wren]

Fairly, yes

[solid gate]

Better then vk 30?

[light orbit]

@solid gate you Play on EU?

[hollow moth]

Not that much, but it's ok

[kindred wren]

You know, I just feel sorry that you have to go through the Annihilator infested tier that‘s called seven

[solid gate]

Asia but I’m from Australia

[boreal spruce]

Which tank will you get after the Leopard? the Vk 30.01D or the Vk 28?

[hollow moth]

Only god knows what kinda of torture they have passed

[solid gate]

I looked it up and probably vk 28.01

[proven river]

VK-28 is a LT, both VK-30s are meds, you can't really compare.

Also, @kindred wren , because he's a new player he won't face Annis until he rushes to buy a tier VIII, like you think it's okay.

[kindred wren]

Well, I know it too, because I went Annihilator hunting in some of the weakest tier seven tanks

[kindred wren]

He‘s from Asia, no bot MM there so what you say is wrong anyways

[boreal spruce]

Vk 28 and that Light Tank line is good.
But personally the Med line (Vk30.01d) is the better line for learning skillz

[solid gate]

My teammates are bots

[proven river]

The worse Premium tank someone can face while being a new player, is a VK-45.03.

Wait, Asia doesn't get AI enemies?

@solid gate are they bad players or actual robots?

[hollow moth]

I yet don't know

[solid gate]

Nope just really bad they run into the middle and just start shooting at the amor and it doesn’t even penetrate

[proven river]

I can confirm NA and EU having that system.

[kindred wren]

Yeah, but bot MM refers to a specific (and unconfirmed) MM bracket for newer players that is also populated with bots. On Asia there is no such bracket because of the low player numbers, and also because of the low player numbers the matches need to be filled with bots anyways

[hollow moth]

Could you do us a favor? go to a battle and see if there's any player with exactly 0 battles and 0 WR

[kindred wren]

So far there is no official statement about an implementation of the bot MM, and the 5k battles number is purely fictional

[solid gate]

What’s wr

[proven river]

Winrate.

[hollow moth]

Win rate

[boreal spruce]

percentage of battles you win.
for me its like 51%

[light orbit]

@solid gate If you ever want to Spend money remember that Sometimes 0.99€= 3000Gold

[solid gate]

I would only buy xp probably

[hollow moth]

That's what I find odd, WG only confirmed bots in EU and RU, apparently the implementation of bots in NA is recent but in fact it exists, being official or not.

[proven river]

That's Normally a bad call.

[kindred wren]

WG didn‘t even confirm them on EU or RU

[solid gate]

I got 2 gold M badges

[proven river]

Congrats.

[hollow moth]

I'm almost sure they did

[kindred wren]

We had tests of bot MM between 5.8 and 6.2 if I remember correctly. It was never mentioned since then, and the bot MM myth came around update 7.0

[boreal spruce]

Asia Server dosnt seem to have bots at high tiers. 🤖 if there isnt enough players MM will make the battle a 5vs5 or 6vs6.
i have been in a 3vs3 battle in Normandy once tier 8 🥳

[light orbit]

@proven river i made this foult i would rather have a good Premium

[fast compass]

Can't say about Asia, but I have definitely seen tons of bots on NA even after the 50 battles of the training 5v5 mode is completed

[solid gate]

I got 7 days of premium for free

[hollow moth]

In fact, ASIA never played Skirmish, just normal battle with smaller maps. Lmao

[boreal spruce]

🤣

BTW im a New Zealander so i play at odd times compared to the rest of the APAC server. nothing more than 100players in MM normally.... 🇳🇿
Skirmish mode! here i come!

[hollow moth]

I feel so bad for the ASIA player when he notice no difference from Skirmish in other servers and normal battles in his own server

[boreal spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-lol-happy-gif-11005303

[dusk tree]

M60 vs T-62a

[violet timber]

M60

[dusk tree]

why

[plucky summit]

Look them up on blitzhangar and find out why :)

[dusk tree]

i see

how about STB-1 vs M60 (im speaking about brawling)

[hard cedar]

m60 but neither are brawling tanks anyway

[dusk tree]

okok last... e50m vs m60

[hard cedar]

at what

[violet timber]

E50M

[plucky summit]

Just E50 M

[dusk tree]

ok thanks... im just finding a counter for m60 🙂

[plucky summit]

You want to buy a tank simply to counter one you’ll rarely see?

[violet timber]

Honestly M60 isn't that hard to counter

[umbral jungle]

Best tank. Change my mind

[violet timber]

STA-1 begs to differ

[hard cedar]

chieftain mk 6 begs to differ

[umbral jungle]

Obj 268.. Drive good. Shoot good. Look good. Is best tank of motherland

[hard cedar]

that seems to be most tanks in the game

[plucky summit]

IS-7 > 268 then

[umbral jungle]

Most tanks are not Obj 268

[hollow moth]

SU-100Y>IS-7

[hard cedar]

Drive good. Shoot good. Look good.

[hollow moth]

That's the SU-100Y for you

[hard cedar]

*chieftain mk 6

[umbral jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-here-be-gone-annoyed-gif-12095984

[hollow moth]

SU-100Y > Chieftain mk6 >: (

[hard cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-oil-robert-b-weide-curb-your-enthusiasm-ending-credits-gif-15708315

[umbral jungle]

XD

[dusk tree]

im not talking about normal battles

[plucky summit]

Mk

[umbral jungle]

Then you should buy 268 or Vindicator

[hard cedar]

neither of those can counter an m60

[umbral jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/worf-star-trek-startrek-the-next-generation-gif-14881585

[dusk tree]

then why did i kill a m60 using a t62a

[hard cedar]

maybe because a 62a has more dpm

[umbral jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[hollow moth]

I killed an Annihilator with my T28 HTC, T28 HTC op lmao

[umbral jungle]

I killed in annihilator with my at15a

[dusk tree]

t28 htc really is op

[hollow moth]

It's a tank that only can abuse of newbies

[dusk tree]

oh i forgot... you guys are in eu and na servers

[hard cedar]

?

[plucky summit]

React for you role lol

[dusk tree]

im new here... where?

[plucky summit]

Try to find it, idk since I have one already

Ayyyy

[dusk tree]

ok ive found it

[plucky summit]

Welcome, I guess 🙃

[dusk tree]

thanks...

[plucky summit]

??

[broken turtle]

i found out that:
Get T-54 for T-54 ltwt top gun
Get T-54 ltwt top engine for T-54 engine
Get 100mm LB-1 from T-44 for T-54
Research 4005 line first then the 183
Research the vicker light line first then 4202, then fv215b ht line

[thorny hull]

anyone know how to drive an Iekpz M41 90mm when its drifting?

[proven river]

The IS-7 and IS-4 lines share guns.

[shell robin]

you want a nation notorious for sharing stuff, play the british

[proven river]

I know, also, the Chinese Heavies and Meds share stuff too.

[hot fulcrum]

What's the best way to grind more XP?

Like, which vehicles are good for grinding more XP?

[hollow moth]

Get E100 line first than VK 72 line

[junior pawn]

Which one should I research it, tortoise or Conway ?

[hot fulcrum]

well that could be possible, but I'm asking about tier 4/5

[hollow moth]

In tier 4/5 most of the tanks are just copy and pastes with minimal differences, personally, if I had to grind a tank that gave me EXP fastly: I'd go for StuG or M4 Sherman any time. You can do it better in a premium too.

[hot fulcrum]

I currently only have these tanks

[hollow moth]

Good, looks like you've been here for around a week or so, the Grizzly will help a lot to speed up the things

[hot fulcrum]

I tried the KV-1, not a lot of XP gained, especially collecting the XP needed for researching the tier 6 tanks.

[hollow moth]

If you want to research a line as a new player, research it directly. Free EXP is quite rare at the start, you'll need it later

[hot fulcrum]

I am aiming for the Italian line, since ppl say that this line is quite good, especially the Progetto

[hollow moth]

It's good, but demands a skill floor which can be pretty challanging for newbies

If you want a personal opinion about what lines are good for newbies, then I recommend you to try E100, Obj 268, Jagdpanzer E100 and E50M lines. They are pretty newbie friendly and easy to play

[hot fulcrum]

I'm stuck in Tier 5/6, so I think I could use this time period to enhance my medium skills

[hollow moth]

Trust me, it takes a good time to learn how to play well a medium, but when you do, it'll be very good

[hot fulcrum]

WG, please fix

[viscid bolt]

What? Normal battle you lost they won

[scarlet kernel]

just want to say, bringing the "historical accuracy" argument to the panther nerf is a bad idea. This is the armor of the panther F from tank encyclopedia. i rather have a non-realistic stats but balanced

[drifting grove]

Teams are balanced. Your team just happened to be worse, skill-wise.
The unbalanced MM we want WG to fix is, for instance, when 1 team has 1 Tier IX and 1 Tier VIII heavy while the other has 3 Tier IX Heavies, to give you an example. Your teams were actually perfectly balanced.

[hot fulcrum]

My team was worse

[drifting grove]

By skill, not by tank level. Fixing MM doesn't fix skill issues.

[hot fulcrum]

Yep

[drifting grove]

Too true. If they want historical accuracy, they ought to get rid of Hybrid nation, to begin with.

[static harness]

to be fair the playstore description does say that the game is just tank focused
(Ww2 tanks, fantasy tanks, tanks from other universes....) and mentions nothing about historical accuracy

[drifting grove]

I never noticed that.

[static harness]

They do say that they have historical accurate vehicles
They have them

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/radicord-good-joke-good-one-samuel-ludlow-rarscoch-gif-18702423

[static harness]

God I wish I still had data left and I could see this

[drifting grove]

How is this even related?

[scarlet kernel]

sorry to dissapoint but... irl tiger 1 only have 100mm of frontal armor

the... maus... was cancelled... it never went into production

[broken turtle]

yes
blitz NEVER historically realistic

[scarlet kernel]

but hey, atleast they don't lie about the anime tanks

[broken turtle]

never true
t110e5 is just an idea that never made up into tank

and after ww2 maus got captured by the soviet and they put in museum
so how the heck it can fight with the leopard 1

[solid gate]

guys can u give me a info on what guns really used by these following tanks m4sherman,crusader,chi-nu,
because i think their max guns are not the real guns that put on the tank..

and one thing is crusader max gun is really an auto laoder?? 🤨

[drifting grove]

Ohh. Okay.

[valid gale]

The Sherman used the M3 75mm and the crusader was fielded with the 6 pounder

For chi nu you’ll have to dig for that I don’t really look into Japanese vehicles

[solid gate]

oh so the default gun of m4??

and 6 pounder? the max gun of crusader? i dunno if the auto laoder is real..

[valid gale]

It’s not auto loaded it just has a high rate of fire because the shells very light for what it was

[solid gate]

so the auto laoder max gun of crusader in the real game is not real?@valid gale

[valid gale]

No it’s not a true autoloader either just An autocannon only thing comes close is the 40mm pom pom

[rigid thunder]

the 75mm gun found on the Chi-Nu in wotb is the same gun that's on the Chi-Nu Kai (75mm type 5). The gun it's supposed to have, is the 75mm type 3, which was removed from wotb. This is the same gun found on Japanese tank destroyers (Ho-Ni tanks iirc), and has a muzzle brake that kinda looks like a circle

[solid gate]

ohh

[gloomy rune]

I’d like to object, it’s the dead broomstick not the broomstick of death, and I certainly have it to prove it’s terrifying speed

But then wg lied again, how nice, cuz t110e3 is called ts5, sound familiar?

[gloomy rune]

Stop recommending. Every tank is hard to play properly. E100 has a flat turret, need to learn how to angle, obj268 bad dpm, need to know how to fight well, jagde100, slow and inaccurate, must learn to make good choices in positioning, e50m, not so traversable like other mediums, outclassed fast, big body, mmm. And the grind is the rest of the book of skill. The e100 line is easy to permatrack, and must learn how to hulldown etc, obj268, the line does not have much survivability, jagde100, learn how to take cover, EFFECTIVELy, the lower hull sucks, and jadgtiger has no manoeuvrability, e50m line is a pain to hide it’s enormous Hull, with weak sides. So don’t go recommending lines, you may point out certain tanks that are harder to play, but I’d say there isn’t any easy tank to grind. After all, it’s grind

[gloomy rune]

Also it’s not an auto loader, is an autoreloader, clip clip

[solid gate]

i think sometimes its the truth there's no easy tank u jeed to work hard to be good at the tank..

[scarlet kernel]

Guys hear me out, what if for one battlepass

The community make a tank by a sprocket design contest

[solid gate]

its gonna be cool another hybrid nation tank

[brazen holly]

That sounds both very awesome and a disaster waiting to happen

[solid gate]

but it must be look like a tank or in theory can be used on actual combat

[scarlet kernel]

We can have rules like, the gun have to be a caliber of 75-90mm. And the armor is.... Y'know

[brazen holly]

Obviously that is a given
Or else you’ll have 200 ton tanks running around at 40kmh+

[solid gate]

i really wish metal slug and wotb collab and we can win the sv-001 tank

its gonna be a tier 7 derp ahha

[scarlet kernel]

How bout this instead

[modest solar]

Panther 2 good?

[scarlet kernel]

Ye

Also, the EU tanks. I think is a great beginner line. I like almost all the tanks there, there is just something about them

[modest solar]

Alright

[scarlet kernel]

Beside from autoloader and autoreloader, the single shots like the P43 ter. , TVP VTU, and strv/m42 for some reason are good

[hollow notch]

Looks at the easiest lines to grind

Nah, the noob is on their own to figure out what to grind.
Just hope they get lucky and don't pick a leo1 of 4202 as their first line

[solar sorrel]

Wow, is it my fault?

[hard cedar]

I'm sure some games you're the one doing 565

[solar sorrel]

Lol

[hollow notch]

Nah, @solar sorrel is perfect

[solar sorrel]

Actually, I'm little bit noob when it comes too frontline

[hard cedar]

So don't blame other people when they do bad sometimes when you can improve as well 😮‍💨

[plucky summit]

When you lose a game, don't think of it as the faults of your teammates, though it often is, think of the reasons you lost. Did you fail to push when you noticed an enemy flank was approaching? Did too many players have bad RNG when trying to damage the enemies? Did something unlucky happen to one of your allies, like a fire they couldn't extinguish, or an ammo rack that gave up their entire HP pool?

[west rapids]

Blame wg not your team 👍

But seriously, too much server lag

[plucky summit]

Sure, but that lag hits your enemies too 🤷‍♂️

[sharp violet]

In this case shouldn't you have been like the Obj. 704 on the other team? By doing a lot of damage and helping your team win?

You can only blame your team if you carried and your team didn't do anything to win

[plucky summit]

Careful, while E 75 is very capable of stacking up damage in its brawls, it's not meant to just deal damage, because it has to sacrifice its longevity for more damage to block enemy damage to preserve it and its allies

[sharp violet]

I never mentioned the E 75, i was saying that you have to perform remarkably well (carrying) to actually blame your team if you still couldn't win

[plucky summit]

Sure you can be justified in blaming your team, but that does nothing except make you angrier (which in turn can hinder your skill), and distract you from learning why you really lost

[sharp violet]

In the case i'm mentioning, the losing cause is very easy to find. Playing better positioning game overall is in fact very important to learn but this is a hypothetical game where you played amazing positioning and did everything you could to win (and still lost)

[plucky summit]

You're basically guaranteed to lose 30% of your battles, it's just part of every game, so adapt, or suck it up because it's not going to stop

[sharp violet]

Basically, this could very well be entirely your fault. And playing great in a game could just entirely debunk the misconception that it is your team's fault (unless you lost anyway if you played great or also called carrying)

[west rapids]

Yes so more blame for wg 👍

[sharp violet]

Exactly.

[solar sorrel]

Actually I've managed to hold off the left flank that fv failed to defend, fv was fighting 2 meds and 1 light and I've been trying hard to help him even though he was finally destroyed, but without realizing it e100, grille, hori, sheridan, and Kranvagn have been defeated by Kranvagn nidhogg, obj, e100, and is8. obj704 was in the middle of the map at that time, and I struggled to fight him, obj704 managed to deal big damage to me, then he went into hiding, I also managed to deal big damage to obj704, and I was finally crushed by Kranvagn nidhogg from behind

[sharp violet]

Then that's just something to take notes for in a future game, make sure not to do the same mistake again.

[plucky summit]

So from what I can tell, it was just the bad shots, good RNG from the enemy, and perhaps superior tanks for that part of the map outplaying yours, all stacking up

[sharp violet]

Maybe (or mayben't) there was a chance that by playing defensively with the e100, grille, hori, sheridan and kranvagn, you could have won.
Or just what @plucky summit mentioned above, bad luck

[real plover]

I love how you said the lines are hard to play and then listed only the negatives of the lines. E 50M is borderline overpowered due to the buff it received in 8.1, object 268 is one of those brain dead TDs

And the E-100 isn’t really that brain dead but it’s still good enough to be a no brainer with it

Jagdpanzer E-100 is also somewhat brain dead due to the pen and the armor layout of it makes it so that if you hide the lower plate, the only thing they can pen is the super structure and that’s if they use gold, and the small cupola up top

[plucky summit]

Many times I've tried to HESH that cupola in 183, many times it has failed for some reason

[real plover]

“For some reason” meaning it has the worst accuracy of any tank in the game and requires good rng to hit that cupola

[plucky summit]

No, I mean I hit the cupola, but it fails to deal full damage
I guess I just always hit the sides of it

[real plover]

Oh. Interesting….. I guess just use AP on it then

[sharp violet]

Same, i sometimes aim at tanks that have good armor and because of how they're positioned there's a single weak spot on the turret, i try to hit it and it hits but it still counts as a ricochet or bounce and sometimes it doesn't even do damage

[plucky summit]

I know why it doesn't do full damage, the armor I hit was a little angled too much for 242mm of pen, BUT I feel like I've never had a successful HESH pen shot on that cupola ever

[real plover]

We’ve all been there. Rng once made me hit a T49 cupola and only break it instead of doing damage

[solid gate]

i wonder what kind of historical camo they will put on shemran im excited to see

[light orbit]

Something Else than VK 90 Armor King?

[umbral jungle]

Lets show some love for the Obj 268!

Maybe a vindicator buff?! Added 10% of gun depression lol

[violet timber]

2.2 degrees of gun depression?

[surreal blade]

Just be generous and give it 10 more degs of gun dep
Not 10%

[violet timber]

Naaaah, just give it actual frontal armor

[hollow notch]

Lmao

Better than nothing though

[umbral jungle]

These are good ideas lol

[violet timber]

10% of 2 isn't a lot lol

[umbral jungle]

I've had to sort of hang off a cliff to shoot down lol

[light orbit]

Just VK 90 or are there more tanky tanks

[violet timber]

What do you mean?

[somber spire]

Any tips for using the T29 in combat? Also what other heavy or medium tanks are good in the USA tech tree are good to research and buy? Seems to have a good gun and decent speed. Thanks for your help in advance!

[thorny smelt]

Same

[violet timber]

Hulldown = ez winz. Also the M48 is pretty good along with the Yoh line past the tier 7

[somber spire]

@solid gate yea the history of the Sherman is pretty cool. My Grandfather drove one in WWll under the command of General Patton in the Third Armor Division.

@violet timber thanks for the tip! Also what do you mean by hull down?

[thorny smelt]

You are basically hide the hull and take advantage of the gun depression.

[fast compass]

You don't necessarily need gun depression to hulldown but that certainly opens more places to hulldown

Hulldown just means do whatever you can and hide your hull.

[thorny smelt]

Peek-a-boo is different. As the name implies, you peek out, shoot at the enemy, then hide behind a structure.

@fast compass That's what I'm also thinking. Just literally hiding your entire hull behind a structure like a small mound or any short structure and only the turret is exposed.

[fast compass]

Yep and that's why hulldown is such an effective tactic in the game. You get opportunities to hulldown everywhere. Dead tanks, rubble, mounds, ridges.

[thorny smelt]

@somber spire This might help you ^^^^

[somber spire]

Thank you Everyone!

[fast compass]

This is a bad visualization of what you can do. Red is a dead tank

[thorny smelt]

@fast compass What if WG adds another 152 mm tank like Object 705A? What do you think?

[fast compass]

As long as it doesn't end up op I don't mind. I am not keen on heavies with td guns but if implemented correctly they can be balanced. Now for 705a it could have bad hull armor for a super heavy atleast

Iirc 705a turret is one of the best in PC. And rear turret means it can already be an excellent peek a boom tank

[sharp violet]

"peek a boom" this should be the official term for peeking tbh

[thorny smelt]

It has poor DPM and HE damage. Poor accuracy and gun depression (classic USSR). I'm aiming several USSR heavy lines in WOT PC (IS-4, ST-II, Object 705 A)

Finally. A proper tank with 152 mm gun after KV-2

[hollow moth]

I never have seen so much foolishness in this server since when I entered here, I'll not bother to even reply after this comment.

There's a lot of easy-to-play tanks, which all you need to do is angle your vehicle and hide your lower plate. Saying all the bad factors (that most of the heavies also have) won't make it, suddenly a horrible tank to learn. All you said here is a disservice to any other player.

Also, if you don't want me to recommend lines, you'll have a hard time trying to stop me.

I am sick and without patience to deal with people like you

[plucky summit]

ARL 44 being an easy to play tank :)

[hollow moth]

Yes, it's also the reason of why it's so spammed in comps

[plucky summit]

Luckily Strv 74A2 is a decent counter to it

[hollow moth]

I've played it quite a bit, but yet don't know how could it counter the almighty ARL

[shrewd basin]

bro the grille is absolutely op and the best t10

[hollow moth]

I prefer Obj 268

[fast compass]

183 or nothing

[solid gate]

ohh thats cool umm can i ask u something is the max gun of tier 5 m4 Sherman used?? i mean i actually playing the sherman with m3 gun and the max turret in it , in these pictures who's the real i mean real m4 variant

did they used the max turret on m3 stock gun?

[somber spire]

No idea

[solid gate]

ohh okay

[tulip sundial]

It’s an E8 turret, which usually held the standard 75 mm or even a 76 in late war

[balmy python]

What is better? German Hetzer or Soviet SU-85B?

[violet timber]

Probably the Hetzer

[solid gate]

Hetzer

[hot fulcrum]

A good investment or not?

[valid gale]

Nope

[hot fulcrum]

I'm seriously running out of XP, that's why

[hot fulcrum]

Is the p43 bis a good tank?

[valid gale]

When stock nah

[hot fulcrum]

upgraded - I'll definitely upgrade and I will have to...

[runic summit]

What is the best tier 10 that isn't a TD

[jolly lichen]

I won't even click on this

Rickroll urself)@quaint brook

[runic summit]

That is legit bro

[solid gate]

ohh i see so tbe e8 turret is okay if i put the m3 stock gun?

Any tips for the painfull t8 japanes medium

[mighty tinsel]

Which tanks are immune to Kranvagn facehug?

They can either shoot down at the hull, though the turret, or through the roof.

[violet timber]

It’s a support tank. Make sure you’re very aware of what’s going on around you so you can run before the enemy gets to you

[west rapids]

Maybe obj 268?

[wise moth]

IRL the 2 historical configurations of the Sherman are the 75mm M3 with the stock turret, and the max turret with the 76mm

[plucky summit]

The trading potential, dump 480 and take the 225, then take cover with mobility (which honestly is bad for the armor profile), and trade again

[solid gate]

ohh i see so i cant combine stock m3 gun and the max turret since its not implemented?

[wise moth]

Yeah. The whole reason why that top turret even exists is to accommodate the larger 76mm

[solid gate]

ooh okay i dunno for me i kinda like the stock haha

[light orbit]

VK 90 IS realy Havy Armored. Something Else good for my Playstile?(i have 18k gold)

[plucky summit]

Remind me again your playstyle?

[light orbit]

slow tanks

[plucky summit]

That's not even a good quality in itself

But, I suppose you may like the VK 168.01 P

[light orbit]

ITS bad

[plucky summit]

It's not =l
It's an E100 in tier 8

[light orbit]

many weak spots

[plucky summit]

Two...?

[light orbit]

i have Objekt 252

[plucky summit]

252U has three weakspots =)

[light orbit]

VK 90 seems the best for me

[plucky summit]

Okay, then Chrysler K may be to your liking

[light orbit]

and a Tier10

[plucky summit]

Your only other choice for a well armored heavy is the AMX M4 mle 54, but perhaps Super Conqueror won't be that bad for you to play

[boreal spruce]

the P43 Bis is brilliant, one of the best tier 6 meds. 👍
the P43 Ter on the other hand....

[tulip sundial]

Max turret with the 75 as well

The original Jumbo’s had 75’s

[light orbit]

@wise moth do you have some expectations when VK 90 Back in Store? (20k gold)

[mighty tinsel]

E75 TS is E100 in tier 8.

[boreal spruce]

with a toilet on the back 🚽

[mighty tinsel]

Perfection.

[solid gate]

Is Matilda good?

[violet timber]

Best tier 4 heavy last time I played tier 4, I don't think much has changed

[solid gate]

Good to know

[hollow moth]

Biased opinion
B1 > Matilda

[worn skiff]

I’m currently running t4/5 since I am new and the Matilda is quite easily eliminated by Russian t4 light tanks. Their guns puncture just about everything around that class and they have speed to make the Matilda unable to aim if they circle

[violet timber]

I mean, the last time I played tier 4 was... years ago

[hollow moth]

I played B1 a bit today to rush for ARL 44, I blocked up to 2k damage in a battle. I've got a biased opinion about french low tiers now.

[thorny smelt]

My dream tank Q.Q

[delicate sluice]

It's a worse vk 100 which you could get from the tech tree

[plucky summit]

Name the reason why it is worse

[delicate sluice]

You can shoot through the tracks when it's trying to angle

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, just like VK 100

[plucky summit]

xD it's hard to see, but there's the plate behind the track still weak
I'll let myself ignore the gaping side

[hollow moth]

It looks red, noobs and unaware players would never shot there. Good enough.

[delicate sluice]

I dont think you understand the point of the screenshot

[plucky summit]

I do, I do, but the lower plate is still a problem

[hollow moth]

He understood

[delicate sluice]

For both

[plucky summit]

Uh huh, which sets them equal, wouldn't it?

[delicate sluice]

Except
The vk 168 has extremely weak tracks
Weaker cupola
Worse upperplate
Front mounted turret is makes it harder to sidescrape

[plucky summit]

The 168 can sidescrape easily, even with the turret mount ._.
The upper plates are both strong, so I find it rare that the difference in thickness actually makes a difference
Both cupolas are weak anyways

[delicate sluice]

Anyways the vk 168 is one of the worst tier 8 prems, as bad as the is2h

[hollow moth]

It isn't that bad, there's worse things

[delicate sluice]

Go watch a review on the tank or something

[violet timber]

As bad as the IS-2h? Not even close. 168 is kinda middle of the road for tier 8 heavies

[plucky summit]

I've played both tanks, don't tell me to watch reviews
But to be fair I only played VK 100.01 P when it came out

[delicate sluice]

Nah, much worse vk 100 in armor with same gun and mobility

[plucky summit]

You know what? Let's bust this out again

[boreal spruce]

woah, i havnt checked its blitzstar stats in a while. 10K people playing it now??? wow

[plucky summit]

🤷‍♂️

I'm in his server lol, I'm Royalty Gang (without the role... for now...)

[delicate sluice]

Go join the hrf discord server and ask "is the vk 168 better than the vk 100" in questions

[plucky summit]

Oh that's odd, where did it go? :)

[hollow moth]

Less players = skilled players have more influence on the tank stats. In fact, a decent-great player with a 168 would smash the Vk100.

Btw, @delicate sluice you think that 168 is extremely bad? Did you just forget Turtle?

[boreal spruce]

please do not mention that! 🐢

[delicate sluice]

No I have not, it's as useless as a stock t95 in a tier 10 match

[hollow moth]

168 surely isn't the best of tier 8 premiums, but at least it's not a Turtle.

[boreal spruce]

168 is okay. its not the best tier8 heavy, but its not the worst. its just a big, 12.8cm armored Tonk.

[delicate sluice]

It's not the worst, but it's close. Any decent player would tell you that

[violet timber]

Any decent player could tell you that it's not that bad

[delicate sluice]

Stats?

[violet timber]

Kinda bad right now due to event but here you go

[delicate sluice]

Lmao I mean tier 10

[boreal spruce]

Yours? you're good!

[violet timber]

Yes it's mine, I just refuse to show my ign

[boreal spruce]

no worries. how many battles total?

[hollow moth]

Perfect enough. None of us here are aces, but we do what we can do.

[violet timber]

I have 9,093 battles right now and I don't feel like hopping on to ss my tier 10 stats right now

[boreal spruce]

lol,

[delicate sluice]

Didn't say you had to... 30 day tier 10 stats is fine

Anyways

[violet timber]

Here you go, also don’t see why tier 10 stays matter when we’re talking about a tier 8 tank but hey

[boreal spruce]

nice colours.

[violet timber]

Event go brrrrrr lol

[delicate sluice]

Good players are judged by their tier 10 statistics in case you haven't noticed

But anyways, you'll get better over time

[violet timber]

They're usually better, but grinding the event has tanked them a bit

[hollow moth]

Seems you've got the infamous T22, any opinions about it?

[violet timber]

It's pretty much the best tier 10 med, and it's easy to play lol

[hollow moth]

Understandable.

[delicate sluice]

Just overangle your side

[violet timber]

Honestly though, shout outs to the Anni and Chief Mk6 for carrying me through the event

[hollow moth]

@violet timber Any Rambo or Derp master?

[nocturne tiger]

I underestimated this tank, it's actually pretty good

[violet timber]

Lemme check real quick

[delicate sluice]

Nice

[hollow moth]

Tenno heika *** banzai***

[hollow moth]

I used to have an ace derpmaster and second class Seal clubber (the last one isn't something that I'm proud of)

[violet timber]

I think seal clubber is just from the slight Anni spam I've done recently

[slate wren]

Lol

[solid gate]

oh one more thing is it okay i used the stock tuuret the M3gun but installed the max engine the m4 sherman without 76 gun have thay max engine on yhe game or no? because if dont i will downgrade it.

and i like to use the stock gun of crusader because auto laoder 76 is not reaal 😢

[real plover]

What do you guys think is the most annoying light tank(s)?
😢 - M41 bulldog
😭 - T49
😤 - The entire british light line
😠 - T54 Lightweight
😡 - AMX 13 75/90
🤬 - T92E1

[thorny smelt]

All of them are annoying. The OG one for me is the VK 16.02 Leopard.

[real plover]

understandable

[runic summit]

Is SU-100Y good?

[junior pawn]

Yes, its better than kv2

[boreal spruce]

its a meme tank.
good Alpha, lolz
more "balanced" than the KV-2 but it big and has no armour and is a priority target.

[solid gate]

Its mantlet is the only armor

[modest solar]

Any td that DESTROY and have good armor? (I prioritize damage)

[slender cliff]

Jpz e-100

[modest solar]

Alright

[vocal igloo]

800 Alpha and Have a armor, Jg.PzE100

[cloud topaz]

Keni otsu used to be in the store for just 6hrs before its permenantly gone am i right?

[modest solar]

Recommendation for lighter td?

[copper swan]

Hellcat

[thorny smelt]

What do you mean by lighter tank destroyers? Maneuverable ones?

[modest solar]

Yeah, fast mobility one

[thorny smelt]

The Ho-Ri, Object 263, and Foch lines are relatively fast

[modest solar]

Which line better grinding?

[thorny smelt]

It totally depends on your preference

[modest solar]

Alright

[mild stream]

E75 the best

[graceful crescent]

Obj.268 is great fun

[thorny smelt]

@modest solar Here are some comparatively mobile tank destroyers at tier 10

[graceful crescent]

When was the DPM of the object nerfed to 3k, last time I checked it was still like 3,2k or something

Well no matter, it still slays

[thorny smelt]

The Object 263?

[graceful crescent]

No, 268

[thorny smelt]

I have no idea. It is still good though with 3K DPM

[graceful crescent]

It is yeah, I know :)

[copper swan]

Bruh 268's dpm

[runic summit]

Is Lowe a Good heavy tank

[gloomy rune]

Fellow sir I find your words mildly rude, suggesting undeserved hatred for my suggestion, honestly. Define an easy to play tank. Every tank can be countered as effective as every other tank, supposing if the enemy has a brain, if your definition of “easy line” refers to being strong against blitz nursery graduates, then I’m sorry I implied such plain facts that not everybody is stupid,

[gloomy rune]

Recover soon, eat more food. They say, victuals recover one’s senses.

[gloomy rune]

Mauschen actually, but ok

[gloomy rune]

Cuz it’s bis moved up a tier right? I think so. It’s like su152 gun stock gun hitting hard at it’s tier, but the isu stock...

[plucky summit]

It functions like E100, solid hull and turret, high alpha with a huge HP pool to trade with

[gloomy rune]

Isn’t that more mauschen, since the design is exactly the same with diffferent turret placement, at least mention the maus

[plucky summit]

Fine, it’s a combination between E100 and Maus’ playstyle

[gloomy rune]

Why so desperate to compare to tier 10s, they are so different, do you really not get that mausChen is vk168 with rear turret and a bit more gun weight?

[rigid thunder]

unlike the vk168, the mauschen actually has amazing side armour. Overangling your side is 100% possible, and should be done a whole lot due to your lower side plate being 120mm thick, which is even better than the maus.
On the other hand, the 168 has a pathetic 100mm flat side and 80mm lower side

[hot fulcrum]

My stats

whatchu think?

[thorny smelt]

I don't know why but Shashmurin's IS-2 is quite beautiful Q_Q

[hard cedar]

Those stats are pretty worthless
(Not calling you bad, saying that stats saying what tanks you play generally don't mean anything)

[hot fulcrum]

Ok, I understand

[delicate sluice]

No, mauschen side armor is pretty bad especially against t10's

Vk 168's side armor is only 15mm less, and is a tier lower.

[hollow moth]

Obviously I was rude, imagine that you're coughing like hell and then appears someone saying "there is no easy-to-play" tank only because they have a few weakness. Minimally angering to say the least.
In fact, there is easy to play tanks; the more forgiving they are, the lower is the skill floor necessary to play them decently. Having weakness as great counterparts of their advantages don't make them worse, just make them balanced.
You want to know easy-to-play tanks in the lines I said?
Pre-nerf Panther (until 8.4), E50M, SU-100, SU-152, ISU-152, Obj. 704, StuG, Jagdpanzer 4, Jagdpanther, Jagdpanther 2, Jagdtiger, VK 36.01h, Tiger 1, Tiger 2, E75 and even the E100 itself. All of those have simple strategies to play or simply were so buffed that became extremely noob friendly.

@gloomy rune Thanks, even tho it's not easy to eat in my current throat's conditions

[rigid thunder]

The mauschen has 155mm thick sides. The vk168 has 135 (I got that wrong oops) and 60mm (also got that wrong) thick sides behind the tracks. Main emphasis falls on the armour behind the tracks - with the mauschen you can angle that plate even harder than the maus can, while the 168 will get shot straight through the tracks at a slight angle.
The mauschen's sides work perfectly fine when uptiered (speaking from personal experience), except most of the time people end up shooting your cupola/cheeks.

[broken turtle]

Yes they are noobs-friendly, and playing them are easy
but put on an expectation, no tank is perfect
yes there're still lines that can be perfect, because wg intended them to be good, but you will, sometimes have hurt times with them. Tiger 2 have good armor, but once you can pen its hull, you would pen the entire tank. Or HE the turret top, 200-300 dmg. Same with e75 but more hull armor
ISU can bounce well? Meh yes but with 1000hp you can get buttered by su-101 in roughly 25-30s
They are generally easier than other tank. Because wg intended them to be. Blaming won't make them think back

[hollow moth]

ISU don't even need to bounce.
You wait until enemy shit an ally. You peek. You shot. You go back. You repeat. All this without getting hit.

[broken turtle]

ah, you were the same guy who took my joke and misconcert seriously and screamed right to my face

[hollow moth]

I didn't scream right to your face. I can't even send audios.

[hard cedar]

It's not literal bruh

[hot fulcrum]

I grinded the P43 bis expecting good results, but turns out to be bad
Would you recommend any other tech tree? I am tired of losing because of my teammates, I have to play more individualistically.

[hot fulcrum]

No suggestions?

Is the French line good?

[graceful crescent]

I suggest getting the obj.268 from the Russian tech tree @hot fulcrum

[onyx sluice]

Either the Russian heavies or the Germans.

[hot fulcrum]

I literally wasted 2 days on this

[hot fulcrum]

Okay, will try

[graceful crescent]

the start will not be the best ever but at tier 7-10, I find the tanks very enjoyable. Would suggest watching tutorials on the tanks before playing them if you want to get the most out of the experience.

[hot fulcrum]

it's the problem with my team, one guy just straight up runs to the enemy and gets killed, now we've got one less player on our side.
Then, there would be atleast 1 heavy hitter like the KV-2 or Pz 4 Gargoyle on the enemy side which kill most of the mediums.
Then, there are the soviet tank destroyers like the SU-100Y which completely obliterate our heavies, if we have them, or just finish our tank destroyers.
Then, we are now left with a 3/2 vs 5/6 situation.

Results? Ends up in negative credits for me.

[drifting grove]

E100 line. Fair warning, all of them are really bad when stock.

[hot fulcrum]

Look?

[hollow moth]

Chill @hot fulcrum, SU-100Y hits hard, but becomes a fragile flower for whole 15 seconds. Unless you're a light tank, don't let it ram you at any circumstances if you're a light.

[hot fulcrum]

See?

And these mofos expect me to win

[graceful crescent]

@hot fulcrum the thing is, it's impossible to make others change the way they play so instead look at your approach to the game and think what you could do differently to win these situations. Now I know, you cannot win them all but too many people blame their teams when they could still fix more mistakes of their own

So my advise is to look at what you're doing in relation to the other players.

[hot fulcrum]

What I do in relation to other players? Become a scapegoat

[drifting grove]

@hot fulcrum Ignore what others say and do, and do your best. Even if your WR falls, your other stats can improve.
For instance:

[graceful crescent]

no, see where you're positioned and think if it's a good position where you can support the team/do enough damage to cause harm to the enemy players. This game is mostly a single player game when it comes to random teams

[hot fulcrum]

Another situation

[graceful crescent]

and how much damage do you output per game in these situations?

[hot fulcrum]

Basically like, 1 guy rushes, gets killed, enemy team knows our placement, we try to flank, they get us

[hot fulcrum]

max 1200, avg is about 800 or less

[drifting grove]

@hot fulcrum Like I said, even if your team does badly, do your best and improve your other stats. It helps to use tanks that are less team-reliant for this.

[graceful crescent]

this

[drifting grove]

Even though it hurts to lose, the fact that you've been one of the best players on the field significantly softens the blow.

[graceful crescent]

not the worst but I would suggest based on this to review your own gameplay and see how you could be more effective

[hot fulcrum]

Well yes, I am aiming for the Progetto, which looks like a good solo play tank, but then I'd have to deal with scenarios like this, which hurt me economically.

I killed the Yoh, btw

[drifting grove]

Save up for a premium, then. Since you're doing the Progetto line, get the Prog 46. If losing hurts your wallet, as it will, the premium will help you make up.

[hot fulcrum]

Ig it involves some pay to win assets too

[torn bay]

Just focus on following ur teams in pubs this will help a lot with winning even if u don’t agree with what they are doing. U r stronger together than solo

[drifting grove]

True. This too.

[drifting grove]

You can get premiums completely for free. Just save up from watching ads and other stuff then get a good one. I am.

[torn bay]

Also the game is ptw at some points just get better at it practice in training rooms to learn the maps and angles so when u do come against ptw tanks u know how to beat them.

[hot fulcrum]

Exactly, they tend to split up, like 2 ppl at base, if the enemy rushes, they're dead, and whatever the damage they do, it's not super significant that we CAN win that situation.

[graceful crescent]

yeah this, I would only suggest going solo in public games if you are experienced with the game and know what you're doing.

[drifting grove]

Even without paying a penny, I manage to earn 500-600 gold/week.

[hot fulcrum]

Wow, how do you do that?

[torn bay]

Watching videos on mobile prob

[hot fulcrum]

Hmm yeah might try that

[drifting grove]

5 ads seven days a week adds up to 350 gold. My clan manages to finish missions weekly, which adds at least another 100 gold from the reward and 50 gold from five gold boosters (which is the minimum, presuming that I lose each match with the boosters on, which isn't usually the case). There, easy 500.

Like this, 52 weeks a year, you can make 26,000 gold at the very least. Enough to buy literally any tank in the game.

[drifting grove]

In which currency does 37.5k gold cost 7,900? It's £79 here.

[hot fulcrum]

Currency in INR btw

Indian Rupee

Anyway, what do you think about the British tanks? I've seen them have like really fast reload times, but meh damage

[drifting grove]

You're being overcharged by a bit.

[drifting grove]

Techtree heavies? Nothing is good past the Black Prince. Premiums? Action X is one of the best Tier VIIIs. The Chieftain Mk.6 and the Super Conqueror are brilliant.
Mediums and Lights? The Tier X ones (techtree) are the best of their type. TDs? No.

[hot fulcrum]

Nah, never gonna get the TDs

[drifting grove]

Forgot to mention, the Chimera is the best Tier VIII medium. 400 alpha and fast reload.

[hot fulcrum]

Premium tank?

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/snape-obviously-harry-potter-gif-10938318

[hot fulcrum]

Anyway, the british mediums, are they good?

What about the "Yoh" tanks?

[manic carbon]

@hot fulcrum British mediums overall are decent but you have to get through some mediocre tanks.
Comet is okay but has seen better days.
Centurion I is the most mediocre tank in the line.
Centurion 7/1 is fine and is doing better. It’s the first tank to get premium HESH so it gets more interesting from there.
FV4202 is pretty fun and is doing significantly better after its recent buff

[drifting grove]

If you can hulldown and skip the stock grinds, the Yohs are phenomenal. I'm grinding them at the moment.

[high anvil]

Hesitating between the Batchat and TVP line next, anyone has thoughts?

Looks like these two would play mostly the same, TVP has more damage potential but also less forgiving with its big profile and box armor

And both pretty easily HE-able

[hard cedar]

Personally I would go for the tvp, bc is fun with the mobility but the gun depression and intraclip are kinda annoying

but both are kinda situational

[boreal spruce]

both are good lines, it depends on what you want:
a tank with good camo and 900dmg clips
or a tank with more HP and 1200clips.

[spark roost]

Guys what should i go for grille, vicers, t62 a or obj 140, or should i wait for 60tp and only farm free xp?

[hard cedar]

vickers

[high anvil]

Depends on what you usually like. t62 probably the most reliable of those, Vickers, Grille and 140 need skill to do well in

That said yeah Vickers is probably the best

[night leaf]

When it comes to t62 vs 140 I’d choose t62 any day because of the added gun depression and turret armour. However, the 140 has a decently troll front plate, somewhat smaller profile, but a weaker turret. Serves as a better brawler as compared to t62

[boreal spruce]

Tips on how to play?

[gloomy rune]

i will give you a pog tip, so i played this tank and grinded it within one day. The strat is so op, that it grinds class 1s. You see, the gun is located at the right, thus the left part of the tank is just a chunk of iron, so make use of solid walls, then hide your left hull, only exposing gun and track, so they cannot pen the flat surface and the cupola. All of the heavies just get confused while youi permatrack them. When using top gun, use supercharge and rammer, just go permatrack, can pen tiger 2 track wheel

gg ez games with this strat

[violet timber]

It's an overall meh tank with no real reliable armor, pretty bad mobility, and a decent gun. The start above is pretty much the only thing you can do lol

[boreal spruce]

thanks then, i did very well in the at8 but the at7 made me have to rethink my playstyle.
Any tips on the rest of the line?
eg AT-15
Tort 🐢

[gloomy rune]

Decent gun? No its amazing, best dpm of its tier other than at15a lmao

[gloomy rune]

At15 and tor tor, just try to stay at the back, the cupola is the weakest thing in the whole game, but the health pool allows it to survive longer. Use the smol gun for at15, and big gun for tortor

[boreal spruce]

20 pdr for the AT-15?
and the 120mm HESH tort?

[gloomy rune]

Not hesh, but yes powerful he

[violet timber]

AT-15 has monster dpm, decent enough armor, but the same terrible mobility. Use the dpm to tear enemies apart.

@gloomy rune There's also the 122S and SU-152, both with better mobility that can really do more than the AT7

[boreal spruce]

semi HESH. like on the rest of the britich excluding the cnet7/1, fv4202, and the deathstar. Yep!

[gloomy rune]

i got the gun early in the game cuz i grinding fv4005, so i got the gun with conway

[gloomy rune]

the point is permatracking

[violet timber]

That's one strategy

[gloomy rune]

Su152 is bonking tank

[boreal spruce]

thanks Mate! it seems to be very team dependant. so i'll try my best!

[violet timber]

Don't focus on permatracking, then you'll start to think that's the only thing the tank can do. Focus on doing damage first, and if the opportunity presents itself, then go for the permatrack

[left acorn]

Nah the real strat is to use the meme gun and give annihilators a taste of their own medicine

[violet timber]

I don't think it'd be that hard for the anni to just peek over a ridge and bully you lol

[gloomy rune]

The meme gun is the at2 gun, good luck even penetrating tracks lmao

[thorny smelt]

Ooooh another annoying tank when it was my first time getting in to tier 5. It keeps on spamming shells like the Matilda BP.

[gloomy rune]

Talk about ram2

[thorny smelt]

The Canadian Sherman?

[gloomy rune]

Ye, the turret funni

[thorny smelt]

https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/titan-t24-57

[runic summit]

Is VK 72.01 good or nah

[winter swan]

Yes,its more enjoyable tank than E100 imo

[hot fulcrum]

Now this should be called unbalanced

Yes, I did play bad because I got one tapped by the 100Y and the 152

[winter swan]

U shouldnt trust p43 bis armor

[hot fulcrum]

ofc I learnt it the hard way

[thorny smelt]

I didn't know that my VK 28.01 is fully upgraded

[hot fulcrum]

VK 28.01 or VK 30.01?

[granite crater]

28.01

[hot fulcrum]

Thanks

[thorny smelt]

There's only 1 VK 28.01 in this game

[hot fulcrum]

What?

[thorny smelt]

The tier 6 German light tank, VK 28.01

[tepid lily]

Read his comment again. He mentioned two different tanks

[hot fulcrum]

Yes, I know that, I was asking about whether I should choose the 30.01 or 28.01

[thorny smelt]

There are 2 VK 30.01s, VK 30.01 D and VK 30.01 P

[gloomy rune]

There is 2 30.01. Excluding 30.01h the collector

[hot fulcrum]

Whatever comes after the Leopard tier 5

[gloomy rune]

Wise men think alike

[thorny smelt]

Oh yes

[gloomy rune]

It actually depends on your preference

[thorny smelt]

Which lines are you going for?

[gloomy rune]

Bruh, they should go for m4yoh first.

[gilded linden]

Hey someone should do a video on the m47 patton Google it ...could be a italian premium they were a main user and all it is 46 patton with different turret would be easy for wg to implement it into the game and be something different like the German bulldog I msg wargaming about it but you know they said they would look into it

[pallid moss]

hi

[gloomy rune]

Hello, choose 30.01d, my reasoning? Flexible, can get Leo 1 and e50m

[pallid moss]

i just started playing today
any tips?
also which one should i research first?

[thorny smelt]

Grind the E 50 M line before the Panther is being nerfed

[gloomy rune]

T1heavy, newbie friendly

[hot fulcrum]

T1 has really good frontal armor

[pallid moss]

thnx guys

[thorny smelt]

T1 Heavy. Most of the time you'll survive from KV-2's shots

[gloomy rune]

That’s impossible, 8.4 is coming soon, too soon, unless fxp stocked, no way

[tepid lily]

It really comes down to preference. Do some research before you spend your exp. Personally speaking I would prefer the VK 28 01, but some people are willing to trade the speed and higher penetration for a little more gun depression

[gloomy rune]

OI. Don’t, it spoils the game, and makes it unfair

[pallid moss]

also
i just noticed the combat XPs are tank-specific
how can i see my cmbat XPs?

[hot fulcrum]

Also, if you're looking forward to play with heavies, I suggest getting the T1, M6 and the 'Yoh' series

[thorny smelt]

Hopefully they won't. The acceleration is not good TBH

[pallid moss]

thnx

[tepid lily]

What aspects of the panther are being nerfed?

[hot fulcrum]

Gun mantlet and some armor I think so

[thorny smelt]

I don't know if this is a rumor about armor nerf. Hopefully this is just a dream

[tepid lily]

Honestly the panther is fine as it is. Not sure why WG feels the need to nerf it, but hey, I don't play the tank so I wouldn't really know much about it

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. It is fine as it is. There is nothing wrong with the Panther.

[tepid lily]

Maybe a mobility nerf sounds good while it retains the armor

[gloomy rune]

There is a mild hurricane at my area

Don’t be disturbed, it’s just an extremely strong torrent of wind

[tepid lily]

Stay safe

[gloomy rune]

Overall horsepower stronk, raumpanzer

[thorny smelt]

The tank itself can bounce shells

[gloomy rune]

Talking about pre 8.4 aren’t we eh?

[thorny smelt]

100%

[crisp warren]

Is the 60Tp line is free or not?

Ok

[solid gate]

ye
good luck if you want it :D

[crisp warren]

Ok :D

When will wot blitz add HELLDOG?

[gloomy rune]

That’s not a thing

When will blitz add arty lines, switched into tds

[drifting grove]

Never. Unless they make bigger maps.

[gloomy rune]

It would be cool with I just boom someone in the face with t92 hmc

[gloomy rune]

I meant like not arty gameplay, you know chito spg, it’s now a td, so why not

[drifting grove]

Ahh. But there's no point, is there? We already have enough TDs. Many countries already have two TD lines.

And TDs are direct-fire SPGs. Artillery isn't.

[gloomy rune]

Technically if you consider wot, they have arty but not really extra med or light or heavy lines

[gloomy rune]

There isnt a true arty in the game, cuz they are all tanks, and are all spgs

[drifting grove]

WoT has massive maps, compared to Blitz. Blitz maps are simply too small for artillery.

[gloomy rune]

Like I said, switch the spgs into td tanks

[drifting grove]

Like I said, we already have enough TDs in the game.

[gloomy rune]

It’s viable if you think about it. Most spgs have hulls of tds

[gloomy rune]

Like wot is, there is equal number of tech tree med lines and heavies… as with blitz, but they have spg

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-face-palm-stressed-annoyed-pissed-off-gif-12123196

[gloomy rune]

Say that to yourself. Plus why is it too much, might as well add more lights first you mean

Ebr go brrrrrrrr

Dam? An essay?

Essay definitely

[drifting grove]

Let me make this extememly clear:
TDs and Artillery are both SPGs. TDs are direct-fire while Artillery fires in an arc.

We don't have Artillery in Blitz because the maps are too small but we do in WoT because their maps are several times larger.

There is no point having arc-firing artillery as direct-fire TDs in Blitz because we already have enough TDs in the game, with many nations having two lines of TDs.

Clear?

Also, many TDs in game are already repurposed artillery. The Stug III, for instance.

[gloomy rune]

We do not have enough tds

[violet timber]

The StuG is technically an assault gun, not repurposed arty

[drifting grove]

Fair point.

@gloomy rune Really? With GB, USA, USSR and Germany having not one, but two TD lines each, and all other countries except EU having at least one each? What are you on about?

[gloomy rune]

I am a td main, I am running out of lines to grind lmao. I have fv4005, grille, jageroo, t95(1tier before t110e3),tortoise(1tier before fv215b 183), t25/2 (3 tiers below t110e4) arlv39(4tiers below Foch 155), missing: hori line

[violet timber]

There is the nightmare which is technically arty

[drifting grove]

Then play a different game. Just because you have grinded everything doesn't mean we need more.

[gloomy rune]

In conclusion, I need more tds.
Which means we find more tds,
Where we pick spgs, viable with old gameplay called boom your enemy in the face

[gloomy rune]

:(, you don’t like spg become td?

[drifting grove]

Just because you want more TD lines doesn't mean the game needs more.

[drifting grove]

TD's are SPGs!!!

[gloomy rune]

That’s technically true, but the game does need it

[drifting grove]

How? Explain. It's not as if we have too few.

[gloomy rune]

For pantoufle and meadsy other you tubers and go’s to gring and play. Increase wotb economy. And community

Plus we are losing to tank company, by the fact that we have no spgs. I mean no spgs I get it, but at least make the arties tds?

[gloomy rune]

So we have more of those

[drifting grove]

We have enough already!!! Every techtree except EU has at least one line!!

[violet timber]

Tank Company can only be run on higher end devices which would alienate the majority of the Blitz community, it’s not going to kill blitz

[gloomy rune]

Lmao eu has 4 in 8.4

[drifting grove]

Which only proves my point.

We need more lights! Only 3 at Tier X.

[gloomy rune]

You sure? I bet every kid in town has an iPhone X

[violet timber]

I’m sure mate

[gloomy rune]

4, counting the missile counterpart hahaha. Like my joke?

[drifting grove]

And why the hell is WarGaming going to care when they already own the largest tank mmo on mobile gaming?

[gloomy rune]

You want ebr? You do?

[violet timber]

EBR would be useless lmao

[gloomy rune]

Not true

[drifting grove]

I can't explain anymore.
@violet timber Please take over.

[gloomy rune]

You have no time? Sad schedule you have there

[violet timber]

EBR’s big strength is it’s speed. It can only achieve this speed over a large plain, like what WoT PC has. Blitz doesn’t have any large plains to speak of meaning that the EBR wouldn’t be able to do the same things it can in PC

[drifting grove]

It might surprise you to know that many of us have lives to live outside discord and gaming.

[gloomy rune]

But it doesn’t, isn’t it dinner now?

[drifting grove]

Ever heard of time zones?

[violet timber]

Mate, we don’t all live in the same place lol

[gloomy rune]

Oh oops, you’re in diff time zone. I forgot for a sec. bro chill no roast

[drifting grove]

I'm from England. It's 11.34 AM here.

[gloomy rune]

I was about to rectify my error, but there is slowmode, did you actually think I was a school dropout?

[drifting grove]

Wouldn't be surprised if you were

[gloomy rune]

Sounds like someone’s salty from being expelled for bullying

[drifting grove]

I was never expelled. And I'm 21. And exactly what leads your two braincells to that conclusion?

[gloomy rune]

Yes I get it, so how’s your living of bullying kids? Hmm? Fun being a sadist?

[drifting grove]

Quite nice, thanks.

[gloomy rune]

Wouldn’t spg converts be more like tds with big guns? So fun, especially with only he gameplay

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-panda-popcorn-day-popcorn-time-chew-gif-15437077

[gloomy rune]

What a corny joke

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-goodbye-harrypotter-danielradcliffe-waving-gif-4808431

[gloomy rune]

Have a great day ahead!

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-dance-dance-among-us-purple-sus-gif-18888988

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-april-ludgate-sips-tea-tea-tea-time-gif-21816989

[gloomy rune]

Almond tea, served definitely without an overdose of 183mm hesh

I wanted to say cyanide but this is a blitz chat so why not haha

[runic summit]

What is the best tier 10 Soviet tank now I want to grind for a Soviet tech tree

[thorny smelt]

IS-7

[violet timber]

^

[thorny smelt]

And Titan T24 57 is AMX Chaffee just a tier lower

[scarlet kernel]

I feel great pain whenever i have to shoot behind in these tanks

[winter swan]

I always randomly bounce sheridan's rear,bcoz its spaced armor is troll af