vehicles-discussion

[hollow notch]

Situational, but it feels so good when it works its magic

[hard cedar]

No insulting leo

[kindred wren]

I free xped it to get the Kranvagn faster

[hollow notch]

?

[plucky summit]

Leo was fun for me

[hollow notch]

You do realize free xp can also be used on the kran, right?

[kindred wren]

The machine cannon really is fun, indeed

[plucky summit]

:(

[hollow notch]

Leo is a less situational 4202, but still very situational

[kindred wren]

Of course, but the Emil II isn‘t nearly an as horrible grind

[plucky summit]

Even though I performed well in Emil II, I disliked it

[onyx sluice]

The Yoh line is coming to PC :)

[plucky summit]

Bruh momento

[hollow notch]

I loved the juicy reeeeeloader
Hated the emil 1 though

[plucky summit]

Yeah I managed 2.9k average, but I felt like I couldn't make my armor work when they loaded prammo, which yes, is the point of the turret, but I don't like that

Though I did only play 24 battles

[spark roost]

Guys will the 60tp levandovsgieko going to be better thank the M-VI-Yoh?

And should i go for the Yoh or should i wait for the 60tp and grind it?

[onyx sluice]

Both have very different playstyles, it entirely depends on what you prefer.

[spark roost]

So u saying that i should grind the Yoh?

[violet timber]

Currently I’d say Yoh is arguably the best tank in game, and even if it isn’t the 60TP is gonna have trouble competing with it in general

[solemn cedar]

Comparing a super heavy to a heavy isnt ideal, especially because the 60tp has not been publicly released yet but solely based on stats, the tp is probably better. the 60tp has a much stronger turret and armor, better survivability, and dpm (with a full load out). In a 1v1 brawl on 180 degree terrain with the yoh using the t123E1, assuming both tanks would get their fixed average damage role, the 60tp would clear the yoh faster at 63.28 seconds compared to 68.4 seconds. With a full load out of provisions and equipment the tp would clear at 69.45 seconds compared to 84.84 seconds. In a hypothetical battle with map positioning, armor, and rng roles taken into account, the numbers still add up to the 60tp winning. It’s turret can hull down more effectively and the armor overall is more likely to bounce than the yoh. The 60tp is only out of its element in a holding ridge line scenario, the yoh can poke the 60tp much easier. This is just based on numbers, armor profiling, footage of the 60tp in action, and my personal battle knowledge.
I used the t123e1 gun because the majority of Yoh players use that gun over the 3 shell, t123E2.

[violet timber]

The main strength of the Yoh is how it can turn around a situation in 1.7 seconds. The only other tank that can do that is the 183, but the 183 is plagued by bad armor, camo, mobility, and gun handling

[solemn cedar]

I came to my conclusion based on stats. I wouldn’t compare either outside of stats because the effectiveness of both tanks relies on the player using them. The outcome would be randomized.

[boreal spruce]

its a great tank, it was my 2nd tier 10 so my stats are nasty but the tank is very good, Fastest tank at tier 10, (65km/h, but has the fastest acceleration on surfaces ) and it weighs 40tons so can ram other tanks if needed(ram with your track, but dont ram too much) 🥳

[solid gate]

So I'm going down the EU branch, which should I go down? Italian, Swede, or Czech

[violet timber]

Czech Swedes

[plucky summit]

@solid gate did you know FV4202 can have the same 19.92s reload that FV215b 183 has?

The only way for that screenshot to prove it isn't a FV4202 is because there's no enemies nearby the trigger the crew skill needed to have that reload, given it's
Damaged gun loader
Damaged ammo rack
Rage level 5 if Adrenaline Rush is level 6, or vise versa
No crew provisions

[solid gate]

Why would is7 be better after the update?

[plucky summit]

The hitbox change made the tank in general more angled, and they're removing the 30mm weakspot on the turret

[grand linden]

they reworked the armor model so that the turret weakspots are much smaller

[solid gate]

I see, thanks.

[boreal spruce]

if you want a good medium, go fro the italy, if you want a slow small heavy, go for the swede, if you want a heavy tank but not the kran, save up and wait for the 60tp.

[kindred wren]

The actual relevant change is the lower sides, which are now practically autobounce

[violet timber]

You forgot the TVP, sad Czech noises

[boreal spruce]

on purpose! 😎
Angry Czech noises

[solid gate]

could be

but still I agree

[solid gate]

Hey guys I need help with playing the IS 3 , I'm currently trying to get the tier 9 gun which is 55k but my main issue is my lack of being able to penetrate my enemies, I need help with this because i have been working really hard for this tank and it's alot different from the past heavies I've played

[rigid thunder]

follow your medium tanks

[onyx sluice]

Use calibrated shells and if you see a Tiger II immediately switch to gold rounds. The IS-3 should pen most tanks with a weak lower plate, aim for it.

[rigid thunder]

tiger 2, weak lower plate? what

[hard cedar]

wheeze

[onyx sluice]

Read. Carefully.

I said load gold for Tiger II, lower plate for everything else.

[rigid thunder]

oh sorry I got hit by the can't read disease
though I doubt the stock 122's APCR with CS can really do much against armoured targets, moreso a tiger 2

[boreal spruce]

yep, stock 122mm gun with CS on APCR is only 228mm, Tiger's LFP is rated at 258mm 😭 good luck

[onyx sluice]

True but sometimes you can't avoid the suffering. I best I could suggest is to avoid Tiger IIs altogether.

Or free XP it.

[hollow moth]

Funny fact, if your tank is tall enough, the lower plate is actually stronger than the upper plate

[rigid thunder]

the stock 122 isn't the worst experience in the world, since it has really good dpm

[hollow moth]

It's an exciting eperience, mostly post-buff

"Uh but penetration sucks"
You're outdated, it got buffed
"Uh but precisions sucks"
It's a sovied SPG. What else you expected?
"Uh but armor isn't good"
It's a medium tank hull, you expected it to block like a Maus? It's enough to block most of tier 6 tanks and most of tier 7 medium/light APs, deal with it

[onyx sluice]

Only at certain angles.

[hollow moth]

if your tank is tall enough

[boreal spruce]

Sad STG noises

[onyx sluice]

You've still got the physics wrong. The lower plate will only be stronger when you're close to the enemy and shooting down at it, since it increases the angle.

Make a really tall tank will make the plate weaker.

[hard cedar]

iirc the raw thickness of the tiger 2 lower plate > raw thickness of tiger 2 ufp

[boreal spruce]

pretty much. . that tiger 2 is a beast, thank goodness it dosnt have the 12.8cm gun!

[hollow moth]

In fact, If you're tall like an M6 EXP and get as close as possible to still be able to shoot at the lowerplate, you probably will not penetrate that. At some point, it's safer to shot the upper plate than lower plate

[boreal spruce]

actually, tiger 2's UFP is thinner! (by only 10mm)

[hard cedar]

that's what I just said

[boreal spruce]

💯 German Steel 🇩🇪

[hollow moth]

If you're an M6, you probably seeTigers like this in close ranges

This is what you must be worried about

[boreal spruce]

Arghh!!! Take it Away!! Take it Away!!!
This post was made by the Tier 7 Tank Gang

[hollow moth]

First image is upper plate, the second is the lower one btw

[hollow moth]

Well, facing a Tiger 2 as a tier 7 really sucks

[boreal spruce]

unless you're 1vs1 in a Type 62. that has premium ammo with 250mm (275mm with CS)

it has the same pen values as the Smasher.....

[hollow moth]

In fact, an AMX-13 probably would be WAY more likely to destroy one of those than it is in blitz. You think that ANY the tanks in blitz have access to APFSDS?

[boreal spruce]

Armour piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot rounds? IRL right? yep, yes it can

[hollow moth]

Oh, poor german mains, they'd be so sad if they knew that Tiger 2 wasn't the best heavy made during WW2

[thorny smelt]

RIP engine

[onyx sluice]

The Tiger II was only unreliable because they had to rush it and it was new so they didn't have time to iron out the kinks. Just like the Panther was unreliable at first but got better.

They were already testing a new engine that could be fitted into the existing chassis.

[thorny smelt]

Are you referring to Henschel's design of Tiger II?

[thorny smelt]

I found this on Wiki. I know I find this site a bit unreliable but I guess these are the reasons why Tiger II was unreliable

[drifting grove]

Yes. The Tiger II, for instance.

[thorny smelt]

I skipped the Tiger I because it has the same weakness as VK 36.01 H. I even managed to ammo rack the Tiger I.

[drifting grove]

Tiger I is easy to ammorack. Just hit the side twice, if the rack is undamaged. Insta-KO. I've done it myself. Once to the Tiger I, once to the VK168.01.

[boreal spruce]

Sad IS-7 noises

[drifting grove]

Sad never had the pleasure of playing T10 as my highest tank is T8 noises

[hard cedar]

laughs in overmemed is7 rack

[boreal spruce]

really though, I find 2 HEAT shots in the right spot with my Foch 155 can Ammorack most tanks (Maus, IS-7, T 62A etc.)

[drifting grove]

IDK, never faced it. I've only scored three ammoracks so far, after 1,280 battles. One against a Tiger I, one against a VK168.01, and one against some TD. I've been ammoracked myself four times.

[drifting grove]

With almost any shell, penetrating the armour and hitting the ammorack twice almost guarantees a detonation. First hit damages the rack, and the second destroys it.

[boreal spruce]

i think (not including Sandbox rooms) i have only ammoracked 6 times (13k+ battles)

[drifting grove]

Wow! You've had worse luck than me!

[onyx sluice]

Of course. The Porsche variant was never made.

[thorny smelt]

I think I ammo racked some tanks for at least 3 times. First was KV-2 with my SU-100, second is Pz. IV Gargoyle also with my SU-100, and their is Tiger I with WZ Blaze.

[boreal spruce]

i'll name the tanks. T-34-3, Vk 100p, IS-7, tiger1, Kranvagn (but it was AFK so...) Maus, T62A, IS-7 in that order

[drifting grove]

I scored two ammoracks with a KV-1 and 1S (same gun) and one with the first of the two 10.5cm guns on the Tiger II.

[drifting grove]

That's eight, not six.

[thorny smelt]

I think Porsche's version of Tiger II which has the Krupp turret is difficult to manufacture than Henschel

[drifting grove]

How much will it cost to restore the pudel?

[onyx sluice]

Both the turrets were designed by Krupp.

[boreal spruce]

it in my notes (yes im obsessed i take notes of ammoracks) yup its 8. not too bad for 13K battles......😭

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. But they are distinguished which one is Porsche and which one is Henschel despite they are both Krupp.

[drifting grove]

....

[thorny smelt]

The VRT is not updated yet for Pudel

[drifting grove]

Meaning?

[onyx sluice]

The reliability issues had nothing to do with the turret however but the chassis.

The turret was changed because it was cheaper to make the "Henschel turret".

[boreal spruce]

probably double a tier6's sell price, so expect 1million-700K (my Y5 Firefly was 678,000 credits.

[thorny smelt]

We still do not know how much it costs in credits.

@onyx sluice I think I sent a screenshot the reasons why

[onyx sluice]

Yep.

[drifting grove]

Oh okay.

[sacred trail]

I mostly snapped the VK 36.01 H and Tiger P more using high-caliber SUs (100 with 120 mm and 152), but I’ve had more ammoracks against me in the Tiger I

[onyx sluice]

Should I buy the KV-5, I like the side scraping super heavy playstyle.

[boreal spruce]

nah, kv5 is a very nasty tier8 tonk, KV4 at its tier is very good. if you want a premo sidescraper, go for the VK168.

[thorny smelt]

It is up to you. I love the tank and my first tier 8 premium tank but not everyone fits their play style when they play KV-5. It has troll armor so you'll be lucky that shells bounce but there are times it is easy to pen.

[solemn cedar]

Blitz should add the High Survivability Test Vehicle Lightweight (HSTV-L). Might be a balancing nightmare but it has a spot in my heart

[onyx sluice]

I got the 168 from the event :)

[boreal spruce]

i could say the same about the Sturmtiger

[onyx sluice]

What would you say is better, the KV or E75 TS.

Or am I better off saving gold for Halloween.

[thorny smelt]

E 75 TS is quite popular but I'll wait for Black Friday deals for some good tanks.

KV-5 is also good for ramming mediums and some heavy tanks with its top speed of 40 kmph. I also sidescrape with KV-5 and shells just bounced off.

[boreal spruce]

E 75 TS is a brilliant tier 8 tonk. very nice. E75 TS, WZ 112, T54E2
IMO the best tier 8 heavys
worst tier 8 heavys are the KV-5 and the T2020 (like the year)
KV-5 is good for ramming (but you have a 168 so..) apart from it fun Rams. 🐏 save up for a better sale

[solemn cedar]

The sturmtiger has a 38cm, if anything blitz should do the event wot planned with it. That sturmtiger gamemode.

[boreal spruce]

yes, that gamemode was soo cool.

[solemn cedar]

T-2020 got an armor buff a while ago, it’s not that bad anymore

[thorny smelt]

VK 168.01 P is more of a meatshield until you run down from a hill and rammed an unsuspecting tank like a huge boulder. KV-5 uses its top speed instead.

[boreal spruce]

not too bad true, but if you had to buy a russian-esque tank i would go for the wz-112-2 or 252.

[solemn cedar]

If you want a good side scraping tank buy the 252u

[boreal spruce]

if you want a good heavy buy the T54E2

[onyx sluice]

The Shark is good but I don't like the hulldown playstyle much.

[boreal spruce]

same, i like the big gun ram playstyle

[thorny smelt]

Same LOL

[onyx sluice]

I like super heavies with alpha damage personally.

[thorny smelt]

More like the Maus line?

[boreal spruce]

cough E100 cough

[onyx sluice]

Already have it, today it will get the HD textures :)))

[boreal spruce]

E100 or Maus?

[onyx sluice]

E100.
I'm grinding the Maus too.

[boreal spruce]

why? for fun or for the wins or it feels nicer? (BTW i own both )

[onyx sluice]

For fun. Big gun go boom.

[thorny smelt]

My next one will be VK 72.01 K aka Heavier Lowe

[boreal spruce]

IMO i have just got the Maus (25+battles) but it isn't as fun as the E100 (450+ battles) , the Maus has the armour but the E100's turret is better for bouncing. and the Maus is team dependent whilst the E100 can carry. (+Maus gets focused fired, a LOT)

[boreal spruce]

Vk 72 has the armour, very troll thick armour

[onyx sluice]

The gun is underwhelming too. On the Maus.

[boreal spruce]

yep, i think the Maus did need that extra 150HP, however, its team dependant so some maus players have great teams and do brilliantly (me though😭 ) maybe give it's turret a slight buff from 250mm to say 260mm.

[thorny smelt]

I had the E 100 already so the Heavier Lowe is the next to be my tier 10 tank. I paused the IS-7 and IS-4 lines as well as other lines like the Foch and Ho-ri for economic reasons.

[onyx sluice]

I agree, the turret should be strong enough to bounce standard shells.

[thorny smelt]

VK 72 .01 K is just the bigger Lowe so it has similar weakness as the tier 8 lighter Lowe

[boreal spruce]

🤣 💸
Don't go for Maus unless you're a collector of the tier 10 German heavies. or want it for training rooms.

[thorny smelt]

Nah. I stopped going for Maus. Gold-shell magnet tank

[boreal spruce]

yep, i might go for the Grille next then the vk 72,

[thorny smelt]

I'm also aiming for The Broomstick of Death

[boreal spruce]

its true, a gold shell magnet, and the turret cheeks no matter how hard you angle will always get penned (unlike the E100)

[thorny smelt]

Only Jageroo and Ho-ri can pen the E 100

[onyx sluice]

Bouncing the Death Star in the E100 is always fun.

I'm personally grinding the E4 now.

[thorny smelt]

If you want to know who is this The Broomstick of Death, it is Jageroo, also known as Jagdpanzer E 100

[boreal spruce]

that's the problem with team dependent tanks, WG cannot decide whether to buff them or nerf them because the stats are heavily influenced by the Team. not by the tank....
like the Maus,
Fv 183,
AMX 50B

[thorny smelt]

Maus should be as it is before the 8.2 Update, the tank with the highest HP in the game.

[boreal spruce]

yep, but its team dependant so.

[thorny smelt]

Any tips thought for VK 45.02 (P) B? I know it is miles better than VK 45.02 (P) A. I only know how to sidescrape but this DeathStar still penned me but I don't know where. All I need are the top engine and suspensions before I could get to VK 72.01 K.

[light laurel]

didnt have credits man

[light laurel]

kk tysm. my 2nd tier 10 aswell

[late wyvern]

😮

[blissful hamlet]

Ah, makes sense

[proven lake]

what equipments should i use for my LTTB?

[vale lily]

is M26 Pershing good?

[proven lake]

idk

[violet timber]

Maus turret is so much better it’s actually laughable. E100’s turret, even angled, is still very weak. Maus turret can be angled to bounce pretty much everything

[hearty cape]

What’s the difference between the Centurion 7/1 and the Centurion Mk3?

[drifting grove]

E100 is better overall. Only lacks in HP, that too only by 100.

[solid gate]

Please give me a Centurion with a mortar! 🤣

[drifting grove]

I need a bit of help with decision-making here;
I'm grinding for the E100 at the moment. So far, I've got the max Tiger II, and am about 30,000XP away from the E75 (Research Certificate). However, I'll need another 2.6 million credits to buy the tank, and I haven't got any premiums to grind it with.
I've also been interested in the Yoh line for a while. I've FXP'd up to the M7 medium tank.
Now, should I focus on grinding credits with the Tiger II and go for the E75 or take a short break from the E100 line and go on with the Yohs until I get enough credits and FXP to research the E75's turret?

[thorny smelt]

Do you have a premium tank before?

[drifting grove]

Pudel. Sold because I'm awful at meds, which made grinding credits with it a pain.

[thorny smelt]

Did you sell it before? It is understandable if you have better premiums. But if that's the only one, use it.

[drifting grove]

Yes. I sold it.

[thorny smelt]

That's a HUGE mistake. Honestly. Use it. Get to know the tank. I know it is a bit worse, than I say, VK 30.01 D. Please, restore it. Use it to grind credits. I have several premium tank but Pudel also didn't suit my playstyle so I sold it.

[drifting grove]

Okay. How much will the restoration cost? Because I'm saving up gold for BF.

[violet timber]

Sell price + 10%

[thorny smelt]

I also sold my Loza's Sherman but I might restore it soon. Probably like 600,000 credits. Check the VRT Table.

[drifting grove]

Okay.

Now, even after I get the pudel back, should I press on with the E75 or switch to the Yohs? I'm at the M7 Medium tank on that line, which means I'll need to.get past the T1 Heavy and the M6 to get to the MVII Yoh.

[thorny smelt]

Grind credits first until you get MORE than what you need. You also need to get the 75% Crew Skills instead of 50%.

[violet timber]

T1 heavy is a pub stomper, M6 is average, M-VII yoh is pretty bad

[thorny smelt]

Oh I love T1 Heavy. Such a rammer tank.

[drifting grove]

Ik. Additional 150k credits.

@violet timber Any other good hulldown lines? Other than the Kran. I don't want to grind through several tiers of meds to get to heavies.

[thorny smelt]

Concentrate on 1 line first

[violet timber]

E5, IS-7, and pretty much every med in the game bar a few are all good at hulldown

[drifting grove]

I stopped the IS-7 line at the IS-3. The prospect of grinding for that top gun with the other guns that have 175mm of penetration at Tier VIII was pure torture.

[thorny smelt]

Oh that's why sometimes I get tired of playing USSR heavies

[drifting grove]

Okay, so I'll finish the E100 line first, then go down the T110E5?

[violet timber]

Honestly I’d say to grind multiple lines at once. It stops you from getting bored and teaches you skills you wouldn’t get if you stuck to one line

[drifting grove]

That's what I thought too, but at the same time, I don't want to end up abandoning another line. I've already done that to five different lines.

[violet timber]

It happens, sometimes a tank just doesn’t click

[thorny smelt]

I stopped playing US tanks because I'm not a player that hides hull or I'm into side-scraping. But their turrets, except for the higher tier Yohs where I can pen their 'horns', are freaking rock solid.

[drifting grove]

True, of the three Tier VIIIs I've researched (Caernarvon, IS-3 and Tiger II), the King Tiger is the only one that I've actuallu enjoyed.

[violet timber]

Caer is just bad, IS-3 is quite good but different to the King Tiger

[thorny smelt]

Oh I love Tiger II until I get to realize, with some good aiming, I can pen the hatch.

[drifting grove]

Only a few minutes ago, I fought my 100th battle on the Tiger II. It was a victory, and I also got my crew to 100% with that battle.

@thorny smelt The hatch getting penned all the time is what made me want to try hulldown heavies, but I can live with it. Also, the turret sides are paper, even on the Henschel.

@violet timber Caer is terrible when stock and mediocre when max. The IS-3 is almost unusable unless you have the top gun that can penetrate 225mm of armour with AP, because you aren't penetrating anything heavier than a light tank with 175mm of pen. To put it simply, the top gun on the Tiger I has better standard pen than most of the guns on the IS-3 have with gold.

[gleaming folio]

The 263 did not deserve any of the buff/nerf it had

[drifting grove]

We're getting Uprising and Burning games this update!

[gleaming folio]

Anyone agrees with me? It currently has better traverse and armor, but the gun forces you to play close quarter as it can miss even point blank shots

[drifting grove]

I don't have the Obj263, but according to what I've heard, the tank was rather mediocre before, so maybe the buffs are a good thing?

[violet timber]

I kinda like what they did with the 263. It gave us another true assault td other than the E3 and I think they did a rather good job of it

[rigid thunder]

the gun nerf was really nasty, second worst TD accuracy at tier 10 for 460 alpha?

[thorny smelt]

I'm also aiming for Stalin's Shoe

[gleaming folio]

Sadly the new “assault td” can miss shots even from 100m...

[thorny smelt]

Wait. As I observed from Object 268, its casemate is derived from USSR pike-nose tank?

[kindred wren]

It wasn‘t a buff but a rework. However, they didn‘t push it through to the end leaving the 263 in an odd spot where it‘s gun is too inaccurate to play long or mid distances and the mobility and dpm technically further encourage playing on short distances, but the armour simply doesn‘t hold up especially on short distances which in turn forces you to play mid distances.

You end up being severely limited no matter how you play, and facehugging just means that you‘ll die

[violet timber]

T-10 iirc

[thorny smelt]

Object 730?

[kindred wren]

The Jg Pz E 100 is a lot better as an assault td than the 263

[violet timber]

IS-8 or T-10

[gleaming folio]

To a certain degree it can be true, i’d prefer to have a bigger alpha (800) as an assult, or even keep my 460 but at least be able to hit reliably my enemies

[drifting grove]

The 50TP Prototype is a heavy, isn't it?

[thorny smelt]

Yes

[drifting grove]

And the Titan T24 57? What type?

[rigid thunder]

light
well it should be

[kindred wren]

That tank isn‘t even in the game as far as I know

[drifting grove]

It's in the update.

[gleaming folio]

Also they gave 263 improved traverse, it is amazing when avoiding being circled from a med and a light, good news also for moving around, however it is unreasonable that you have to stop for those 4s to aim the gun, and that amount of exposure to a td that doesnt have that much hp is pretty dangerous

[spark basin]

the armor buff for the 263 is kind of useless when most tanks can just shoot down at your engine deck and pen

[gleaming folio]

You do have armor yeah, but on every map i can count the viable spot to hide the lower plate with fingers of a single hand

[kindred wren]

I honestly never had a problem with circling lights in the 263

I rather have a problem with people penetrating my weakspots all day long, though that was less of an issue when I could play at medium range

[gleaming folio]

Exactly, the closer you are the bigger you are, its obv. That even weakspots gets amplified (both upper deck during an assault and lower plate as i stated there are few spots you can assault and keep it hidden)

They wanted to differentiate with the ho ri, as that tank is also similar, but effectively they destroyed a perfectly fine td

[kindred wren]

Yeah, I don‘t understand why they didn‘t go further with the armour buff

Especially the engine deck and the vertical strip are unnecessary

[gleaming folio]

Fun fact, engine deck is 30mm, pretty much it can be overmatched from all 100mm and above, basically every tier 10’s so good luck with a tank as low to the ground as the 263 is

[spark basin]

no point aiming for weakspots of a 263 when the engine deck is pretty much guaranteed pen no matter where your at

[gleaming folio]

To sum it up:
The 263 is currently between a hard place and a rock.
-The gun forces you to either go up close and personal OR to spend a lot of time being exposed at medium range
-the armour is strong at medium range but it can’t be used viably due to map design (lower plate issue)
-the engine deck is 30mm so when you go up close and personal, tanks that can see you upper deck can overmatch it 90% of the time

ah yeah i forgot the long range:
-who you want to fool? Good luck sniping with 460 alpha and .34 dispersion 😂

[spark basin]

you dont even need to be tall you just need a 100mm caliber gun

[gleaming folio]

So why play the 263? Same reason for why we play the vindicator, masochism and memes☺️
Or call it personal challenge 😂

[spark roost]

Guys who thinks here that the IS-7 is the new meta after 8.3 update, i think that IS-7 is way more strong now cuz of the side armor and more, anyways this is my opinion.

[spark basin]

its way stronger now but i dont think it will be the new meta

[zealous anchor]

New meta is camping maus

[left idol]

The best long range tank destroyer in the game

[drifting grove]

New?

[gleaming folio]

😂😂😂😂😂

[solid gate]

Imma go get me a tiger :p

[zealous anchor]

😵‍💫

[light laurel]

wuts dat why e100 turrets lmao

[muted frost]

pz. 1000 ratte bro

[light laurel]

ohhhhhh

[light laurel]

its a big boi

[muted frost]

it is bro also p 1500 and p 2000

[ember lodge]

Hello

Wich way shold i go? HellCat or Jackson?

[onyx sluice]

Hellcat.

[real plover]

Bro wargaming is bringing the Yohs to pc in a few months

[thorny smelt]

Lots of tanks. Lots of options.

[real plover]

I guess the M VI Yoh is a tier 9 on pc

And the M V is a tier 10

[thorny smelt]

Weird. Tell me more. Spill the beans.

[solid gate]

Is it now harder to ammorack the is7?

[drifting grove]

A bit, I think.

[wise moth]

No. It’s the same as always, it just was never easy to do so in the first place

[real plover]

I don’t know why. Also there’s gonna be a tier 8 premium Yoh called the M-IV-Yoh

Not to mention the way the tracks work on pc is similar to blitz BUT you can still drive forward and backward at reduced speeds and you have the ability to destroy both the normal track and the emergency track

Destroying an emergency track on pc immobilizes the Yoh completely until it is repaired. The emergency track gets repaired first then the normal track gets repaired.

See how it works? It’s how it should work in Blitz imo

[vale lily]

T1 heavy tips? This thing is very slow

[grand linden]

press w and win

[solid gate]

some youtubers say the is-7 front got buffed? it cant be penned by gold ammo

https://youtu.be/hMBg1CNb920

[wise moth]

What happened is that the turret cheeks got way, way smaller, however the upper plate wasn’t touched (and if anything is worse now that it’s larger). The other 2 buffs are to the turret side which is now ~300mm effective even flat on against HEAT, and the lower part of the side was folded inwards like the 252U. There have been no other buffs.

IS-7’s upper front plate has always been immune to 340 HEAT when faced head on, people just never realized it.

[valid gale]

And people just seem to forget for some reason most heavies can get a 90 degree or upper angle advantage on its front plates and pen it easier

[solid gate]

my friend is mad saying e100 is now more bad against is-7

another question. is the is-7 becoming better than the is-4?

[real plover]

It is virtually better than Is-4 in every way

Except ammo rack durability heheh

[manic carbon]

340mm of HEAT is the most significant advantage

[wise moth]

In a nutshell, yes. More alpha, more speed, and more armor. The only thing it lacks now is the HEAT shell

[solid gate]

aight. i always preferd the is-7

[tulip sundial]

Finally the era of IS-7 slander and hate is coming to an end

[solid gate]

the IS-7 will rise and show great strength on the battlefield

[hard cedar]

Nobody slandered it in the first place besides the rack meme

[tulip sundial]

Nobody slandered it besides when people slandered it

[wise moth]

Nah, people have always crapped on the IS-7

[wispy burrow]

hello why do I see heavy tanks that turn into td and vice versa?

[hard cedar]

Weird most of the time i see people saying it's decent/good

[desert current]

It's a good tank, it always has. This update buff is quite noticable.

[split adder]

have premiums or collectors ever been nerfed before?

[wise moth]

Other than the low tier (tier V and below) ones in update 5.5, no.

[boreal spruce]

personally, IS-7 is as good as the IS-4. The tank has a stupid turret and the UFP is strong unless you're vs TD's (or Kranvagn with 374mm HEAT) its a very nice Tonk. looks good, the grind isn't too bad. and unlike the IS-4 it can facehug effectively.. IMO 😎

[boreal spruce]

ammorack durability? what? (to be honest 2 HEAT shots from a Foch 155 can ammorack most tanks....The IS-7 is more memed cause the ammorack is around the turret ring...)🥳

Soviets: Well Comrade, the best armour is to put modules everywhere,
Comrade: But Sir, its the ammo modules?
Soviets: Any module is a good module Comrade!
Comrade: Well.... If Glorious Leader blessed it then.....
🤣

[valid gale]

Propellant charges are a thing you know

[wise moth]

How is your armor inspector updated to 8.3 already?

[boreal spruce]

I don't think it is yet, but I'm just looking at the Modules so the new PBR shape doesn't really make much difference... it still is covered in ammo racks

[wise moth]

I think that is, because you’re viewing the Blitz model, and the gun there has the little square behind the muzzle brake, which is only on the 8.3 model

[kindred wren]

The web application is already updated

[wise moth]

Also, all of those ammo racks are in pretty well protected spots. The side hull ones are covered by the auto-bounce portion of the side, the back of the turret is probably the least hit spot on any tank (and the side profile of IS-7 turret is ~300mm+) and the one in the front is at the corners of the hull, which is the toughest part to pen when he faces you frontally

[boreal spruce]

the meme around the tank is a bit ridiculous.
only tanks with really 350MM of HEAT can ammorack the tank, its only more susceptible because the armour is at the front and sides, whilst Maus has it in the rear turret etc.

[wise moth]

You don’t just need a lot of pen, but you also still need a giant gun (like JgPz and 183 to even have a chance of one shotting it) if they’re using protective kit

all in all, it’s a lot preferable than this for instance, which has the same ammo rack durability, and way less armor protecting its ammo

[kindred wren]

Leopard 1 says hello 👀

Though the durability is better if I‘m not mistaken

[wise moth]

God that front mounted ammo is so annoying. It doesn’t blow up, but I only have one rep kit on my Leo, so I frequently have games where my stinkin ammo is damaged and there’s nothing I can do

[spark roost]

Guys is the IS-7 better than the M-VI-Yoh now after the update or is the Yoh still better than the IS-7, cuz there is a lot of people saying that the IS-7 now is so OP?

[kindred thorn]

bruh is7 turret op

[hollow notch]

2 repair kits
You can drop the fire extinguisher

[wise moth]

I don’t have a fire extinguisher; I run multi, adrenaline, EPB

[hollow notch]

._.

Speed boost? You need to go 70 up hill?

[wise moth]

Yes. Especially in case I get Rockfield jajajaja

[boreal spruce]

i always run
Repair kit
Multi purpose
then if it's a premo tank **nothing **
but sometimes adrenaline (if its a DPM tank) or Speed boost (if it is my E50M

[hollow notch]

What I run
Double repair(every single tank in my garage)

And either adrenaline, med kit(autoloaders), superspeed boost, or reactive armor.

[spark roost]

Guys should i go for the Yoh?

[boreal spruce]

its a good tank. if you want a bouncy autoloader go for it

[spark roost]

Ok, thats what i like so im going for it.

[gleaming folio]

oh man this is one ugly tank
proceed to take out credit card for the next pass

[boreal spruce]

Cries in F2P

[plucky summit]

M24 Chaffe, AMX 13 75 turret, AMX 12t gun 😳

[valid gale]

A walking dumpster

[queen swan]

same, I never use anything else

[boreal spruce]

Fist bump noises 🤜 💯 🤛

[kindred urchin]

i don't know anywhere else to put this

[spark basin]

e 100 improved armor or more hp equipment?

[past crane]

Neither…? It got remodeled.

[hard cedar]

he means equipment

[past crane]

Oh. Idk tbh

[hollow moth]

Damn bro, could you teach me how to make WT custom skins? My last try was... Barely depressing to say the least

I just wanted to make some rain forrest patterns...

Btw, I know it's not exactly about Blitz

[kindred urchin]

sure man i can try and help ya

[agile ivy]

Why do all tier 10 now have a legendary camo but the T95E6?

Does wg plan to make one soon?

[hard cedar]

30b doesnt have one either, id assume they'd make one soon but idrk

[agile ivy]

True

[slender cliff]

Is that war thunder I see 👀

[agile ivy]

Imagine posting war thunder in Blitz server, XD

[hollow moth]

Yep, also a legit user camouflage

[slender cliff]

Nice. What br are you at?

[hollow moth]

My top BR is 5.7, I'm focusing in multiple nations

[slender cliff]

Yo I’m grinding russia so hard I’m at the t-44-100 rn

[hollow moth]

Bye bye Panther A for now, the chief of arms demand a Lancaster and a Sherman Jumbo

[slender cliff]

I’m at the tiger H1 for Germany

[hollow moth]

I've got that 5.7 Tiger, but never used it yet, same for Panther A

[slender cliff]

Dang nice

[hollow moth]

Recently I also was grinding the Soviet line, KV-1 Zis-5 is sick

Too bad that the USSR don't have the 1943 version of KV-1, with the roundy turret

[slender cliff]

Ikr the only think I hate about the zis-5 is the gun

[hollow moth]

Man that gun is nice, my standards for a Soviet heavy was the L-11, so I'm more than grateful to have a minimally decent penetration

[slender cliff]

Yeah it a beast at close quarters. Have you tried sweden apds?

[hollow moth]

Nah, it's pretty much what I call as Post-war B######T

[slender cliff]

It’s so good! You should play the rank1 reserve they both have apds

[hollow moth]

C'mon, post war tanks dealing with KVs and Panzers 4? Obviously it's good

Talking about reserves, damn, Panzer 2 Dak could be an interesting tier 3 in blitz, that APCR ammo can penetrate even the side of shermans

[slender cliff]

Yeahh I guess. Well the limited spalling makes up for the huge penetration. It takes me a few shots to kill an enemy unless I get lucky and hit ammo

Panzer 4s are really good. Esp f2 version

[hollow moth]

I really think tanks without explosive inside shells are... Kinda boring. That makes the American low tier experience really a torture

[hollow moth]

Yeah, the tanks are good but the players are the biggest brain you'll ever see. German mains find the most exotic areas to camp and almost a kilometer

[slender cliff]

Kinda. But I think aphe is a bit too op. The explosion should be in a cone not a sphere. The only tanks that have the cone explosions are the Swedes

[slender cliff]

That’s true the reason why Germany suffers is because of the players not the tanks lol

[hollow moth]

I mean, getting 100% historical on the game would make it really boring

[slender cliff]

I guess but why not do it for all tanks

[hollow moth]

Well, for the same reason that they'd be change the ballistics of every single vehicle besides the swedish ones

[slender cliff]

Ig. I really liked the overprssure update. It returned the kv-2 to its original glory

[vale kettle]

Why this 3D model?

This is really ungly, toy tank?

[drifting grove]

It looks good, in my opinion. If you want ugly, look at the Yohs, American TDs and the new legemdary camo for the Fv4005.

[nocturne tiger]

Well I mean it looks better ingame than in garage

It just looks horrible because everything around it is not the same quality as the tank

[drifting grove]

I'm a German main. I disagree. There are two types of us - One is the MausTD, the other is the frontline Heavy. I'm the latter.

[hollow moth]

I saw you camping with a Tiger 1 on the fields of Severesk-13. Don't lie to me, there are no frontline german main in War Thunder.

[drifting grove]

I used to end up hetting surrounded and absolutely slaughtered by the enemy because I'd end up too far ahead. Also, I don't think I've ever played in Severesk-13.

[hollow moth]

It's the map with a lot of repeated buildings, the meta area is on the middle of the urban area with a fountain as C cap point

[hollow moth]

In fact, yeah. Every one when touched the Tiger 1 for the first time did overate the armor

[hot fulcrum]

The devs should add the T-14 Armata

What do you think about it?

[real plover]

Well I don’t think they’ve even finished designing the Armata and it’s a main battle tank. The closest one we’re gonna get is the kpf 70. Could you imagine an Abrams a challenger or a leclerc OR a T-72 running around the battlefield with infinite levels of armor and tearing up everything?

[rigid thunder]

the t-14 armata has already been developed, and is in a test phase of sorts

[violet timber]

Hahahahahhaha no.

[blissful hamlet]

The Armata is a complete tank, but due to its level of internationalization, it is time-consuming and expensive to build units (Even reason why our EE-T1 would suffer in addition to the disinterest of our army), even today Russia should not even have 500 units

[blissful hamlet]

Of course
Impenetrable frontal armor, impressive cannon, impressive speed...

[foggy mesa]

why the obj 907 is too suck?

little armor and a bruh gun

[noble geyser]

looks pretty good to me if you know how to use it

[foggy mesa]

i look on a app

this tank armor sucks but is a ''good'' tank and easily to use

looks a t22 medium with weak armor and worst stats gun

[real plover]

In a nutshell it’s an alternative to the T-22. It’s like T-62A vs Obj 140 all over again

[drifting grove]

I did too. Unlike the Tiger II, the Tiger I has surprisingly thin armour.

[drifting grove]

There's a comparision between it and the Obj140 on #general-blitz-discussion . It should be at Tier IV, not X.

[vale kettle]

This new tower was really weird, it's the icon

[solemn cedar]

907 is a worse, faster t-22. It is like the t-62a/obj 140. 62a overshadows the 140 just as the t-22 overshadows the 907

907 isnt a bad tank but for a tier 10 collector in expensive crates it isn’t worth the gamble.

[hasty summit]

any tips on the M6

[spark roost]

Guys whats the current meta?

[onyx sluice]

Entire teams of Death stars.
/J

It's hulldown heavies.

[spark roost]

So the meta is the yoh and the kran?

[onyx sluice]

Pretty much.

[lyric copper]

playstle issue

the point of the tank is to have speed and some armour, it isn’t a T-22, it’s like a combo of a 62A and 140, but actually balanced
@foggy mesa

[hard cedar]

M48 and 113 noises

[kindred wren]

Comparing the Object 907 to the T-22 is like comparing the T-62A to the Object 140. Not really comparable because different focuses and playstyles but you can if you absolutely must

[vale kettle]

my clan team doesn't use kran now, we use m6, is4 t110e5 and obj 268.

and eventually we will use 60TP

is7 is actually better than is4 in terms of mobility and armor, it is a good alternative for urban maps

[vivid hearth]

Does the 907 have the pbr texture thing

[final adder]

don't think so

[copper swan]

907 is Russian leopard 1

[solid gate]

I need help playing the leopard , I'm trying to get the VK 30

[sacred trail]

WDYM VK 30? It’s not on the Leopard VK 16 line.

[thorny smelt]

The VK 30.01 D? You need to play the Panzer IV Ausf G. I think you mean VK 28.01

[proven river]

Tier V, VK-16 Leopard.

WG should turn the top gun into an full fledged 30mm Machine Gun, where you just hold Mouse 1 and dump as much of your ammo as you desire, like a true Machine Gun.

[valid gale]

Ancient 2016 leopard used to be like that

[hollow moth]

252u is probably easier to play

[hot fulcrum]

Should I pick the T1 Heavy or M4 Sherman?

[onyx sluice]

Depends on which tier 10 you want to grind.

[copper swan]

which do you recommend

[shadow epoch]

consider giving the AMX AC 48 a buff, I think it is peforming quite poorly among those tier 8 TDs

[hollow moth]

I really didn't expect Ferdinand tohave a better average damage than Jpanther 2

[hot fulcrum]

Are the 'Yoh' series tanks good?

[native pelican]

yeah i think they're pretty good

[drifting grove]

The look hideous, though.

[untold moss]

Anyone think that Indien Panzer need some buff?
It make me wonder why WG not touch that tank yet....or because it not famous tank so people just skip it and make WG think it just waste of time to make change to that tank? 😐

[solid gate]

Indien-Pz is actually a good tank, buffing it could possibly make it op depending on the buff in question
why does no one play it? because of the more "fun" line of Ru 251 and the VK 30.02 D, which is a good tank as well and yet no one touches it

[gloomy rune]

Not really, the ratio of the tank is perfectly fine, not aesthetically displeasing if you ask me

[undone pivot]

Here u can see vickers light tank. There were only 32 in the world. Pretty rare if u ask me

[celest copper]

Is FV201(A45) good?

[thorny smelt]

Skip

[celest copper]

Ok

[thorny smelt]

Better stock up more gold for better tanks

[karmic totem]

Vk on hill

[hot fulcrum]

Wait, what happened? How did you self-destroy?

[karmic totem]

Wait

This one

[hot fulcrum]

Huh?

What the hell?

[granite crow]

Found this on Google

[viscid bolt]

@karmic totem i will try it

Lol have done it but my Tank flyes just 10m above earth

[real plover]

Why does everyone complain about the Dracula but not a single soul spits at the CDC?

[viscid bolt]

Try it Second time and did it flying over the map

[static harness]

Because the dracula is a better CDC but 1 tier lower

[manic carbon]

CDC has been powercrept a bit over the years

[real plover]

How can Dracula be a better CDC when 1: it has less health than the cdc and a reload time that’s longer by 1.5 seconds 2: cdc has a higher p/w ratio but lower top speed than Dracula. If I had both, i would pick cdc over Dracula but cdc is my favorite tier 8 and favorite tank across all platforms

[hard cedar]

better tier for tier

[viscid bolt]

CDC is just paper

Dracula have on side HE splash armour

[elfin orbit]

The cdc is also waaaay bigger than the drac

[kindred wren]

Accuracy (dispersion factors) and size. Also, the Dracula has better p2w

I mean power to weight with p2w but I guess the other meaning fits as well 🙃

[elfin orbit]

Id play the cdc a lot more if it was the same size as the drac

[kindred wren]

The only thing that is really significantly worse for the Dracula is pen

[plucky summit]

CDC has that strongarm frenchie gun

[elfin orbit]

Hon hon baguette launcher

[real plover]

CDC has its frenchyness while the drac just takes its frenchyness and slaps halloween over it

[drifting grove]

The turrets look awful.

[proven river]

It's probably because not many Newcomers go for it first.

[karmic totem]

Bugggg again

[exotic lintel]

Something ain’t right

[subtle mason]

Hey folks.

Do I buy 54e2 now, or wait for bourasique? I have nearly every tank I ever wanted right now.

[hard cedar]

if you have enough gold go ahead bc borrasque will be in crates for $$$ not gold anyway

[subtle mason]

True enough. I also wonder, which would be better for clan tank farming (the upcoming t9 one), emil 1951 or 54e2?

[hard cedar]

e2 I suppose bc it's probably better overall

[violet timber]

T54

I have both and while I adore the 1951, the T54E2 is just better

[hard cedar]

ignore him he adores the sta

[subtle mason]

Aha, got it. Thanks!

[violet timber]

STA-1 is a wonderful tank

[hard cedar]

Silly, you made a typo and put sta instead of stb

[violet timber]

Ah, let me fix it

I edited it, should be fixed now 😁

[hard cedar]

😤

[subtle mason]

Hmmm. I'm thinking, maybe I better wait for action X on sale instead of 54e2...

[violet timber]

54E2 is much better than AX

[subtle mason]

But ax is British, and camos are more dope

[violet timber]

But 54E2 has better mobility, armor, and a better gun IMO

Also Shark camo is absolutely amazing

[subtle mason]

Hmmm. Okay, will buy AX on next auction or so, I guess

[violet timber]

AX is kinda bad with the current tier 8s

[subtle mason]

Well, I bought kanonejgpz and amx defender right away - they are niche but are fun to play. I tend to gather some freak tanks, yes.

Though amx defender was a bit heartbreaking for me, I thought the gameplay would be closer to 1390 than to 1357. It's still good, but...

[violet timber]

AMX defender was disappointing

[subtle mason]

It's a burst scout with good camo, but as I see, should've simply enriched my 1390 instead.

[violet timber]

It is what it is

[hollow notch]

Enriched t49 is the proper way to do things

[autumn jacinth]

is the ST-1 worth the credits?

[violet timber]

It's pretty good as long as it's not stock. Stock ST-I is one of the most painful experiences in blitz, so I'd say have at least enough free xp for the first gun and engine

[autumn jacinth]

how much we're talking about?

[hollow notch]

The top gun is a necessity

[autumn jacinth]

ok I understand. can u plz tell me the cost (im playing another game right now)

[dark harbor]

I hope they make the Object 268 model similar to the PC, which has been remodeled. The 268 version of the blitz has a low roof, like, it's not quite how the model should be

[ancient walrus]

Agree. But it's like the older version of the 268 on the PC, it was shorter compared to the T-10 chassis and didn't have a machine gun on the roof. If you take the remodel and the old version, you'll notice that the old version was less tall

Btw, are you de reverse version of the server moderator? Lol

[dark harbor]

That's what I meant.

[dark harbor]

I'm better 😎

[acoustic ingot]

I know the amx is bad, but is it at least fun?

Amx defender

[grand linden]

the amx isnt bad lol its just not a def mk1

[acoustic ingot]

Yeah , thx

[grand linden]

this is why you shouldnt listen to blitz youtubers outside of a few like fatness or noobeater

[hollow moth]

Fake YouTubers be like:
"Today we'll be spending 2000 dollars on this loot box! Don't forget to smash the like and subscribe!"
"Lmao Jagdpanzer E100 is the worst tier X tank, it's so bad that I can't even say why it's that bad."
"This new battle pass is so original, the background now have a tank under water!"
"I don't have an account creator account, my 3957299948292 gold is legit. WG don't like me, I criticize them a lot"

[acoustic ingot]

Lol

[wind burrow]

Guys anyone has T92E6 ? How come this tank is heavy ! It's made of paper !

[plucky summit]

T92E6 does not exist in Blitz
Did you mean T95E6?

[nocturne tiger]

okay any tips for using the Kranvagn's gun? I understand how to play the tank but somehow I just don't find the gun to be enjoyable.

I've been hearing about reloading and only using two of the shells in the magazine to increase my DPM, should I do that?

[midnight leaf]

t92e1 has better armor than t95e6 change my mind

[gloomy rune]

Amateur, stock tds are more painful. As a td main with all my tech tree lines being td, I guarantee that td stock is pain, you literally either start with absolutely no pen, or absolutely no dpm, no alpha, or all three together. And Guess what, I bet you didn’t know the gun is one of the most important part of tds!

[final crag]

nah bro stock tanks have no speed at all

[gloomy rune]

Your point being? TDs also start off with stock engine?

[violet timber]

I mean, I enjoy tds, and I’ve played some stock, but ST-I stock is definitely top 3 worst stocks

[gloomy rune]

Talk about minimal pain, imagine not knowing isu stock existed

[violet timber]

I played ISU stock for one game. Never again.

[gloomy rune]

Told you, anyways I regret fxp’ing t28, I literally skipped t28. Researching 123.75k fxp on t95, should have researched bl10 first lmao

[gloomy rune]

Also I respect wotb joe for that very fact. He played isu stock and 704 stock. IMAGINE 704 STOCK, tier7 gun on tier9. Oof

[violet timber]

ST-I is also a tier 7 gun stock I believe, and I’m to lazy to actually fact check that right now

[neat nimbus]

more like the weakling kv 5

[thorny smelt]

I have to rely on IS-7 line just to unlock all of the guns

[thorny smelt]

I find it quite a fun tank (I'm more of a heavy tank and tank destroyer main) to troll enemies.

[neat nimbus]

yeah tho isnt op

[thorny smelt]

I know it is not OP as its tech tree sibling KV-4 but I like this tank. I guess it is all personal preference. VK 45.02 A is more troublesome for me.

[violet timber]

Vk 45.02 A is the worst heavy in tier 8

[midnight leaf]

t2020

[violet timber]

The VK is worse

[thorny smelt]

VK 45.02 A is the trashy Porsche version of Henchel's Tiger II. Once I got to VK 45.02 B, I finally get settled.

And I said it so many times already. Keep a tally about it LOL

[west rapids]

Unless you don’t have bl9 it probably is dunno if it should be top 3 however

[violet timber]

That's what I mean when I say stock.

[west rapids]

I’m aware but there are worse tanks.

There is also e75 stock, probably as painful as st1

[violet timber]

E75 stock has much more penetration

[west rapids]

Maybe, but how will you get anywhere with how slow it is stock? Got to take that to account as well

[violet timber]

Well it's better than ST-I on medium and soft terrains

[proven river]

A friend I have got a certificate for a SU-122-44, but it's no where.

[violet timber]

Doesn't matter, 122-44 isn't worth it anyways

[proven river]

That's not the point.

It's not even in the store.

[violet timber]

Oh yeah, that does seem a bit of a problem. Ah well, 122-44 isn't worth it anyways

[proven river]

Again forget the "not worth it" point.

It's idiotic.

[violet timber]

Yeah

[west rapids]

🤡

[hollow moth]

It's actually very good. Not meta, but one of the best medium tank hunter on the tier 7.

I like a lot the tank, but it gets boring fastly.

[violet timber]

There's much better tanks than the 122-44

[hollow moth]

There's better tanks =/= bad.

[violet timber]

Better tanks = why play?

[hollow moth]

Various reasons, want me to list them?

[violet timber]

Just play the SU

Or if you really want to bully meds, just a Panther

[hollow moth]

• It is what you've got, not the better version.
• The SU-122 offer didn't appear when you had money
• You might want a tank with medium proof armor or more agility
• the 122-44 offer might be cheaper

[hollow moth]

When Panther gets 440 alpha, I'll hand you a thousand dollars

[hard cedar]

1. don't get that version, wait for the better version
2. if you want an armored td there are no good options at T7 (at7 is wack)
3. cheap =/= good offer

[violet timber]

It doesn't need 440 alpha, it's just a better med hunter

[hollow moth]

1. Expecting that this version will appear soon and at least for a viable price or simply buy a SU-122-44, damn
2. Hm, I want a mobile tank destroyed with at least an armor than isn't like RU's, also that does quite of a good alpha... might buy AT15
3. If tank X appear for 10 dollars and Tank Y (slightly better version) appear for 20 and with 1000 gold appear in shot, if you're from the first world, then surely you'd buy the Tank Y. What if you were from third world?

[hollow moth]

With totally different playstyle. Cool.

[violet timber]

Still a better med hunter

[hard cedar]

You can get gold as a f2p? Buying a subpar tank that isn't really that special isn't that great a use of gold especially if you have limited gold

[hollow moth]

Supposing that everyone would buy a tank just because it hunters mediums better, then there would be no reason to sell light tanks or super slow heavies

[hollow moth]

The fact stills, only the first world country or slightly wealthy people buys the "best offer" instead of the cheaper offer

Make a cheap offer with things that are interesting for the people and you'll see a ton of players buying it, even if it isn't the best offer

[valid gale]

The su-122-44 sucks anyways it’s “dpm” isn’t able to utilized most of the time especially when any heavy can hit you for half your health while you’ll only chink 1/4th off

[hard cedar]

A ton of players buying it doesn't make it a good idea
Yes if you have money it's way easier to buy the better tanks but you get 18k+ gold a year as a f2p and it's better to spend it on tanks that are good

[hollow moth]

Damn, it isn't that bad, let me check my precision on this tank

[hollow moth]

Yes, it's not good to make offers that a ton of people will buy depending of what it is, but in fact, the best offer isn't always the most suitable offer, unless you're from the first world

[fast compass]

122-44 can be fun at times but dogofwisdom is correct about it.

[hard cedar]

You get upwards of 18k gold a year completely for free you don't need to spent it on a crappy offer

[onyx sluice]

Can the 113 sidescrape?
I was deciding on which tier 10 to grind next and was interested in the Chinese heavy line.

[hollow moth]

Yeah, heavies can be a problem, I focus on meds when using 122-44 for this reason

[hard cedar]

iirc 113 side armor is pretty crap

[hollow moth]

In fact, not all offers are for gold and not all players use WoTB mobile

[hard cedar]

It's a mobile game it's safe to assume the majority of players are playing on mobile

[hollow moth]

IDK, I never had problems while penetrating 113

[onyx sluice]

Ah okay, it looked like an interesting tank.

[hard cedar]

It's just a 121 except awful traverse and better armor

[hollow moth]

Majority? yeah, but it's safe to also assume that there's a big portion of players in Steam and Microsoft store, mostly because of the possibility of better graphics and the aiming advantages, also the payment options are pretty large in steam

[hard cedar]

Idk but I don't think there's any official data on platform breakdown anyway

[broken turtle]

stock leo pta is even worse than stock indian pz, even i already have turret + engine + ver. stabilizer

[plucky summit]

Someone's watched Droodles

[fast compass]

Hence why free xp is so essential at tier 9. Without the gun your existence in tier 10 battles is pointless. Without the engines and tracks, you don't have the mobility to compensate for that lack of armor

[broken turtle]

i've spent 75k free xp for turret and engine and roughly 2mil more for equipment already. With the gun but without the turret you would end up having an assburning accuracy
im still using stock gun and it's "fine". The pen is fine to play. Just don't have dpm to brawl
i could spend more xp, but neh

[west rapids]

Interesting
The
Heavy tank

[grand linden]

i bet you would like to meat up with him wouldnt you lmao

[plucky summit]

😂

[grand linden]

With this you can meat up with him weekly

[thorny smelt]

Meat 🥩

[grand linden]

fr?

omr this is going to spread

no it has nothing to do with ruining droodles lol i just thought this is funny as heck

[solid gate]

Is the VK72 good? It will be my 4 Tier 10!

I wanted to know positive and negative points!

[grand linden]

godammit i was gonna take a ss of that

[plucky summit]

People would ask for proof anyways

[grand linden]

oh well was funni while it lasted

[plucky summit]

Alright, well you know 🤷‍♂️

[grand linden]

youre gonna have to tell that story again some time in the future

[plucky summit]

Why so?
So threatening ._.

[grand linden]

no more people must know the funni

[plucky summit]

Immense shade-throwing potential, so no

[grand linden]

why would i throw shade at droodles i have no beef with him

[plucky summit]

I mean the concept itself just puts dirt on his name

[grand linden]

i mean he put it out there so i think hes fine with it

[plucky summit]

He what?

[grand linden]

he put the offer out there himself i dont think he cares

[plucky summit]

I mean, sure, there’s no requirement to fulfill promises in Patreon

[grand linden]

it has nothing to do with money or promises i just purely think its funny

[thorny smelt]

I think you can play like with a Lowe would. Well it is a bigger, heavier Lowe.

[plucky summit]

It's much more different from a Lowe :p
Yes, though their turrets are extremely similar

[thorny smelt]

That's why it is called a Heavier Lowe (Schwerer Lowe, VK 72.01 K)

[plucky summit]

Well, still played differently, mainly because of relevant gun caliber, accuracy, and turret mount position

[thorny smelt]

It has still that iconic weak strip of the Lowe but I need to use prammo with my E 100 sometimes

Also, we'll see you again soon, VK 70.01 K Lowe

[violet axle]

Whats the thickness of the obj 140 and t62a with enhanced armor upper glacis?

[royal charm]

Wow this guy is shameless

[drifting grove]

I agree. Ridiculous.

[grand linden]

oh cmon folks its all in good fun and spirit theres no need to go after droodles

[hollow moth]

Manage 100 dollars to meet up with doodles, but can't manage to meet up with a girl for free.

Wait, but meat is like 🥩

???

[woeful scarab]

i love the T-34-2

you can effectively side-hug an american heavy with it (unless its the yoh that thing is so depressed)

or just any big tank

[violet timber]

American heavies aren't the best thing to sidehug due to pretty good depression angles. It's much easier to side hug a German heavy

[grand linden]

if an american heavy is letting you sidehug them chances are theyre the big unsmart

[hard cedar]

^ like betta

[shadow knot]

guys, how to play tank destroyer correctly?, i was playing jgpanther 2 and i dont have the top gun

[woeful scarab]

M6 EXP???

[solid gate]

vk72 or e100?

[drifting grove]

E100

[autumn jacinth]

ST-1
worth the credits or not?
go

[violet timber]

As long as you have enough free xp to get the second gun, yes.

[autumn jacinth]

lemme see...

I have 37k free exp...
and it costs 55k...

[violet timber]

Get enough free xp for the second gun. The stock gun is absolute pain.

[autumn jacinth]

aight thx

[autumn jacinth]

JFC!
1400 for the ISU-152 legendary camo!!!!!

[solid gate]

How long is WG gonna sit on the Bourrasque?! Hurry up and get it in the shop!

[autumn jacinth]

they already did once...

[plucky summit]

Bourrasque did not enter public shop

[violet timber]

Bourrasque? Nope, hasn't been in shop yet

[solid gate]

Hasn’t been sold yet, only in testing.

[autumn jacinth]

I think it did im not sure

[quaint gust]

I missed 6 out of 8 shots

The only 2 shots i hit were with a broken gun while moving. The rest were fully aimed shots on unmoving tanks

[autumn jacinth]

guess what?
thats not an achievement

[quaint gust]

???? You think I wanted to loose??? Im confused.

[autumn jacinth]

dude ur not supposed to miss...
pros dont miss...

[quaint gust]

I didn’t want to miss tho. 4 of the 6 shots that missed were fired at a pudel sitting in the open. 3 of them hit the floor infront of him the 4th went above him. All were fully aimed

[autumn jacinth]

anyways...

[hard cedar]

Why do u post everything in 2 channels

[lyric copper]

wow low tier teammates are somehow bad, probably because they’ve just came outta the tutorial

[near hamlet]

what do u think about smasher?

[lyric copper]

nerf the heat, nerf the reload

balanced

other than that, bullying them with T29 is funny

[near hamlet]

bruh, i bully t29 with my smasher

[lyric copper]

@near hamlet nah on a ridge you gone

[near hamlet]

Ima pro idc somehow I’ll destroy em 😆

[quaint gust]

I don’t actually know. I only do it in this server too. Nowhere else

[lyric copper]

yeah no any competent T29 would just beat you over a ridge

[plain wagon]

Man idk what all the hype was about centurion 7/1 is garbage

The gun is great but the tank is huge and falls apart so quickly

[hollow notch]

🅱️ESH

[grand linden]

sounds like skill issue

[kind falcon]

skill issue has been said 18 times per day on average over the last week 😐

[kindred wren]

And you just added to the counter

[violet timber]

Seems like a skill issue to me

[kind falcon]

yeah we should say it more often tbh

[kindred wren]

Skill issue is lazy

[kind falcon]

thats why I was disappointed to find out how often people say it

[kindred wren]

Perhaps even indicative of a skill issue concerning social skills (empathy) or explanatory skills or analysing skills

[kind falcon]

If I had a dollar for every time someone posted the skill issue gif I might be able to pay someone to write me a better response than skill issue

[kindred wren]

Lol

[hard cedar]

skill issue is the epitome of responses

[kindred wren]

The worst „skill issue“ offenders are those who use it against arguments against a tank, as they basically use the ad hominem fallacy (they argue against a point by trying to discredit the person saying it despite the point being independent of the person saying it)

[hollow moth]

Skill issue is funny, but c'mon, if someone says "Tank X (which is underperforming and known to be just dead weight) kinda needs a buff" and another one answers with "lmao skill issue" then it just make the whole meme lose it's purpose

[boreal spruce]

💯

[mighty void]

I just want to know why the wz112 glacial has weaker armor than the wz112-2

[hollow moth]

Idk, wait a bit, I'll check for you

[mighty void]

I already know the glacial has hull front 120 which is weaker than the 111 at 125 and the 112-2 has 140 hull front

[boreal spruce]

wz112-2 is one of the best tier 8 heavy tanks IMO. its just powercreep in the hull. the 112 glacial is a good tonk, but its stat strength is somewhere else

[mighty void]

It’s just annoying to have to play it for its birthday bonus and another thing I noticed it seems to go into a lot of tier 9 matches

And I know my prem tanks seeing as I have 232 tanks and only 40 of which are tech tree

[hollow moth]

This is 112 gracial, wait 30 seconds. 285-290mm on this angle.

[boreal spruce]

👀 .

[hollow moth]

This is 112-2, 260-270mm of armor

[boreal spruce]

stats

[lyric copper]

balance

[hollow moth]

This is worthless, you count armor by the models, these numbers don't take angles to the count.

[boreal spruce]

true, but the speed

[hollow moth]

He asked about armor, not speed

[mighty void]

Tbf the glacials front hull armor should be better due to its more aggressive frontal slope

[boreal spruce]

(armour values are off Wot Inspector Blitz and the numbers are the Effective armour BTW)
so WZ 112 has a 300mm turret. 320on the UPF and about 195mm on the LFP
WZ112-2 has a 230mm turret. 280 on the UPF and about 85mm on the LFP
both tanks have the same gun, the only other difference is the 112-2 has a 42km top speed. and the 112 is only 32km
and the 112 glacial earns more credits.
so if you're like me and want an aggressive Heavy tonk. get the 112-2. if you want a more defensive Tonk. get the 112 Glacial.

[hollow moth]

Once again, these flat values are worthless

[boreal spruce]

these are the sloped values mate! 😂

[hollow moth]

Ah yeah, sorry

[boreal spruce]

no worries😀 . which of the two is your fav?

[hollow moth]

None tbh

I'm not much into super sloped heavies

[boreal spruce]

dont say the T54E2

[hollow moth]

Nah, I'd rather M6 EXP

[boreal spruce]

the Goose..

[hollow moth]

Yes, the goooooose

[lyric copper]

eurgh

frankly an annoying tank to come across

[mighty void]

I only ever play them for the bonuses anyway most all the time I’m playing my smasher or anni

[lyric copper]

-10°, gun with high pen

this thing is actually annoying to play against sometimes

[hollow moth]

This man feels like he's shameless

[hollow moth]

Furthermore, very trollish hull if you dance a bit

[mighty void]

Well I did just spend $200 usd for the 907 yesterday

[hollow moth]

Well I did just spend $000 usd in blitz on the last 6 months

[lyric copper]

lower plate isn’t a weakness- which is dumb imo

[boreal spruce]

yep, if you need a credit grinder get the T26E4, a very similar tank to play, and it grows credits (80,000 with prem in a win)

[boreal spruce]

cough Tiger 2 cough

[lyric copper]

turret front and upper plate

the M6 exp is stupid on a ridge and far away, you have to aim for its 2 weakspots, it doesn’t

[hollow moth]

When your lower plate is stronger than your upper plate

[mighty void]

I’ve been a collector since 2015 when I bought my first tank the t34 1776 for $50 usd (no premium t8 will ever be that cheap again) then again in Halloween because I didn’t finish the stine event in time, ah the good old days of blitz with both map design and awesome events

[boreal spruce]

Tiger 2 has 256mm on the LFP and 253mm on the UFP, lol, a thicker LFP than the UFP....

[hollow moth]

Since 2018 I spent less than 60 dollars in Blitz, my first shopping was a Panzer Iv Schmalturm, christmass event

[plucky summit]

Effectively thicker, but that's because of the angle, they're the same thickness nominally

[mighty void]

Another thing I want to point out is that the devs got rid of the flames that came out of the stine’s exhaust

[plucky summit]

Oh really? Time to test

[plucky summit]

Yeah, yet Gravedigger keeps its flame =(

[hollow moth]

Damn, even common camouflages become soooo beautiful

[violet timber]

Gravedigger supremacy.

[lyric copper]

cringe

[neat nimbus]

low res model also looks cool

for my beard i really wanted that legendary camo for the ms 1

[neat nimbus]

i wish wg gave the Löwe a revamp plus make its legendary camo into a 3d style

[valid gale]

This is the main problem with the older models

Pretty sure because of the older assets the camos don’t really pop on some since the weld or model marks stick out to much and the base color shows through which just makes it look ugly

[shell robin]

(idk where else to post this but here it is. Also, sorry if this is like "Oh god, not another one.") Just a quick question about an irrelevant thing that was like 5-10 years ago. So we have the Maus, the E 100, the badger and a bunch of other heavily armored tanks like the Kranvagn. We'll have a bunch of super armored tanks, but the Japanese heavies are too heavily armored? Even though all the tanks I mentioned have better effective armor, or just plain better?

[rigid thunder]

The japanese heavy tanks (in wotpc) have pretty much 0 weakspots, unlike the tanks you listed (kran, lower plate badger lower plate, e100 lower plate, maus lower plate)
And, the japanese HTs are incapable of angling, making penetrating their arnour the simple task of spamming gold. See the issue?

[shell robin]

not really.

[rigid thunder]

Yeah, as you show me the view of a type 5 against a 183...
I'd like to not get "internet trolled" anymore so cya

[shell robin]

the 183, a meta tank

[shell robin]

well what am I supposed to do, talk you to death without any evidence?

[rigid thunder]

You're supposed to give me actual meta tanks, which isn't the 183 btw, that tank is pretty bad. And if you don't know any, then well why are you discussing wotpc?

[shell robin]

pen stats are very similar, if not exactly the same, as their blitz counterparts. if the tanks do not happen to have the same pen rate, then i look for another tank that does. by similar, i mean by 5mm difference at most. if the japanese heavies were in blitz, then i wouldn't be discussing wotpc.

[rigid thunder]

The 183 is an absolute outlier amongst tanks at tier 10, since it has outstanding AP pen and premium HESH, which provide increased alpha at reduced pen.
Take any other tier 10 commonly found and pit it against a type 5. Obj 140, 430U, SConq, 60TP, Kranvagn (not talking about TDs ofc) and you'll see what I mean

Normal tanks will struggle to pen the type 5 at about 30-40% chances if I remember correctly? Dab the 2 key however, and it turns absolutely green. This isn't fun for the type 5 driver since getting goldspammed isn't fun, and the person goldspamming is burning their credits

[valid gale]

They can’t be imported due to being extremely large (the maus had to be downsized when it was first added ingame)

[shell robin]

then downsize the japanese heavies

[valid gale]

It doesn’t work like that as I said even maus had to be downsized and it still sticks out like a sore thumb it’s not due to balance issues as blitz has a much smaller scale and due to maps being shorter the type and it’s family can be spotted extremely easily and it won’t be fun for it

[shell robin]

how does downsizing the japanese heavies not work like downsizing the maus?

[valid gale]

The Maps aren’t designed to play around something as large as them this question has been asked towards them over the years and this was their response they haven’t changed their word and are clear on not adding them

[shell robin]

if they aren't meant for large tanks like the maus, and downsizing them, from what i understand by what you said, doesn't even help the maus much, why have them? wg's response was, like i said, between 5 and 10 years ago, a time when they really did have problems. they've been smoothed out since, and i think doing some real homework will say that they should be added to blitz. People who play tier 10 might as well use prammo against the tanks i listed if they want to play mediums like the STB-1 for instance. The Japanese heavies bring nothing new to blitz. there are already tanks with either few or no weakspots at all.

sorry for the long posts btw.

[shell robin]

and besides, when was the last time you saw wg keep their word?

[valid gale]

As you said the type can be easily dealt with and since heavies are the easiest spotted class the type is a walking light bulb and doesn’t really bring anything interesting to the game the blitz dev team is also confident on keeping their version separate from the other platform versions as for the maus the game has evolved drastically over the course of 7 years and it has been one of the meta tanks recently due to somewhat questionable balance decisions as the maus was already a top tier performer before and it’s brother the e100 also received buffs alongside it last the heavies were addressed was sometime during 2019-18

[shell robin]

They can be confident about being "different" all they want, but they are still wargaming. i remember when they said yamato wouldn't be dwarfed by any ship in gun caliber (refer to shikishima in wows). I remember when they removed the BL-10 from the ISU-152, only to throw up a premium ISU-152 with the very gun they removed (refer to ISU-152K). I remember when they said they would cooperate with players better, only to perform more circus tricks the next month. that's not vehicle related but whatever. The japanese heavy line does bring nothing new to the table, and you know what? I think I'm personally fine with that among other people. It'll be the first line in ages without any weird quirks or gimmicks. Just a tank line with big guns and big armor, tanks among tanks. No "reserve tracks" like the yoh, no homing missiles like the american lights (i know they removed those but still). no autoreloading like the Kranvagn or progetto (the latter i can get behind, as that's been their thing in the first place). It just brings a line that many have wanted.

[quaint gust]

Is the churchill 3 worth the money?? Or should i wait to see if i get a discount

[willow sandal]

Which tank should i get next? I mainly look for a battle tank is the tank destroyer one good for battle tank?

[summer tangle]

the Hetzer has armor, a tiny bit that however can save your life. its very speedy (buy gun first anyway) and rotates very quickly. the panzer 4 has a better gun and more hp

How do i use the stock ISU-152?

[copper swan]

you don't

[summer tangle]

i cant make 75k xp appear outta nowhere

[static harness]

Let the tank stay for about 2 months and farm the free exp with something else
:bigbrain:

[spark basin]

is the is 7 hitskin for the turret wrong?

[hushed patio]

Should i go for the engine or turret first?

[drifting grove]

When upgrading a tank, always remember this rule: Turret -> Gun -> Whichever is cheaper between tracks and Engine -> Whichever of the two is more expensive.

[hushed patio]

Alright thanks

[violet timber]

That’s not always the rule, but for the Leo it’s pretty good. I’d say turret then gun, then the first engine before the tracks

[summer tangle]

Is the IS-7 getting an armor buff for real?

[nocturne tiger]

It just did

[copper swan]

credit card

[copper swan]

SU 152: no

[thorny smelt]

Jagdpanther II: No

[onyx sluice]

They both don't have a turret so duh.

[thorny smelt]

Charioteer and Conway: Are we a joke to you?

[copper swan]

Rhm: I have a turret

[prime trout]

But KV-1 has unbearable base engine... 🥲

And then there's the IS which starts off with its best gun. 😂

[summer tangle]

no, you expose yourself too much with the 100mm. better off using the top 122mm gun

[prime trout]

How so? Plus there is the DPM and penetration difference. 🧐

[copper swan]

damage

[summer tangle]

^youre never gonna use the 100mm in the line, plus you do more damage exposing yourself less

[summer tangle]

penetration is for apcr that you wont really need, dpm is irrilevant between heavies if you know how to block damage with IS

[copper swan]

IS-1 is like tier 7 IS 4 without the side troll armour and a quite big cupola
still a good light and medium bully given the armour and the speed

[full flume]

what is the easiest tank to achieve class II or higher mastery badge?

[hard cedar]

Tanks nobody play like the 260 or just go sealclub

[boreal spruce]

sealclub 🦭 ♣️
FT AC gets a mastery every time I play it. however its a tier 2 so the waiting time is awful

[plucky summit]

The tank itself is bad, the gun hits decently hard, but it has the least engine power in the game, no armor, not exactly a reliable gun, and has to sit in the back to put numbers out

Easy to make effective? Not really. Easy to Master? Yeah, it's based on earned XP of players in the tank within the last 7 days is it? It's a rare tank, even among collectors, mainly because it's not very good. There's no real competition

[boreal spruce]

exactly, only need to do about 300+ dmg to get a mastery....

[plucky summit]

Really? That's so sad

[boreal spruce]

on the other hand, in the Marder II i have to do 1k+ dmg to even think of a first class....

what is your best tank for masteries (dosnt have to be a tier 5 + tank)?@plucky summit

[plucky summit]

I shall check

[real quarry]

Mine is PZ2G

Take like 700dmg and 2 kills for an Ace, very ez for a 200dmg Clip PZ2J with better Pen but less armor and more maneuverability

[delicate zinc]

should i free xp?

[plucky summit]

Never use free xp for a tank

[delicate zinc]

how should i be playing panther 2?
ive kinda just been doing whatever

[plucky summit]

General support medium

[delicate zinc]

ok

[kindred thorn]

what

[plucky summit]

What? Use free xp for modules lol

[hard cedar]

unless you have spent thousands on the game then whatever

[neat nimbus]

i wont be able to get the tank dang it

worst part is likely be sold on high price...

[hard cedar]

you have 5.7k gold, if you're too busy to grind to 100% you can grind to 70% and buy the tank with gold

[neat nimbus]

no internet on my house which is reduced to 25%

[hard cedar]

oh that's unfortunate rip

[neat nimbus]

worst part is weegee selling it overpriced

[rigid thunder]

4.5k for a tier 9 is over priced my lord

[quaint gust]

This thing needs a goddamned buff in some department. More armour, hp, spotting, engine power? I don’t care what just buff it please!!! It’s so so bad.

[slender cliff]

Imagine playing the t25/2 😭

[quaint gust]

I need to if I wanna get the t95 t110e4 and e3

[grand linden]

I feel like wg might nerf the bia for the event later so I would recommend finishing the bia grind fast

[static harness]

Played like 7 games with the t25/2 back 3 years ago
(Free exp'ed everything)
Lost all of them
Sold the tank and did something else

Never mind
Never played it again since

[onyx sluice]

The T25/2 is better than the T28 prototype, you can't change my mind.

[slender cliff]

This is why I don’t talk in vehicle discussion 😫

[onyx sluice]

The 20km top speed really sucks and the armor is pointless on the T28 proto.

IMO they should strip away all of the armor and buff the top speed, it will be a better tank that way. Atleast more fun.

[junior crown]

I felt really bad for buying ST - 1

[hazy rover]

its good maxed, although slow

[onyx sluice]

You just have to [King Crimson] the grind to get it fully upgraded.

[junior crown]

It’s really hard to play it without max upgrade I can’t shoot anyone and it always missed also can’t pierced a lot of tanks

[junior crown]

yeah 🗿

[quaint gust]

I encountered a tank called angry connor today. Why can it deal like 200 per shot with a 2 second reload?? It killed my dreadnaught from full hp before I could reload in 8 seconds

[onyx sluice]

The Angry Connor has a gun with 160 avarage damage and a reload of around 5 seconds.

Another enemy must've been shooting at that Dreadnought.

[thorny smelt]

Oh. Similar to Stug III G

[onyx sluice]

Pretty much.

[quaint gust]

Oh ok. Maybe then.

[solid gate]

i hate and love the angry connor

[reef cape]

is the kanonenjagdpazner worth 30 dollars?

[obtuse violet]

nope

[reef cape]

well is it good?

[obtuse violet]

get gold with the 30 bucks instead and save it. no kanonen is not good at all

[thorny smelt]

You should've gotten the Jagdtiger 8,8 cm which has similar gun to Kanonenjagdpanzer but slower and little lower pen but crazy above 3K DPM whether you're on Gun Rammer or Calibrated shells

[reef cape]

i have the tech tree jagd

[thorny smelt]

i'm referring to the premium tier 8 Jagdtiger

[reef cape]

I’m looking for something like the jagd 4

[thorny smelt]

Similar to E 25?

[reef cape]

Yes but the size doesnt matter

[thorny smelt]

Just a flat tank destroyer?

[reef cape]

Yes

[thorny smelt]

Well up to you to decide. We are just here to help you.

[reef cape]

yea i know i just wanted someone’s opinion on it

[thorny smelt]

It is now sold in gold though

[reef cape]

yup i know

[shell plover]

I have enough gold for the IS-3 defender.... worth it?

[onyx sluice]

No definitely not.
You're better off waiting for the Emil to come for sale if you're looking for an autoloading heavy.

[manic carbon]

I personally would save the gold for something else.
For the comment above, an even better option would be getting the free Emil I which is just as solid

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. Emil is still the better choice. Long inter-clip then a long magazine reload on IS-3 Defender? No thanks.

[copper swan]

Is Emil 1951 bad, and how to play it?@manic carbon

[thorny smelt]

It's a buffed up Emil I except for the armor

[solid gate]

The ISU-152 is great. Change my mind

[wintry orchid]

The t49 also is not very concious tho

[solid gate]

AMX 30 B legendary camo?

[solid gate]

Jagd doesn't have nearly as good mobility and concealment though, and using its armor is rather chore than anything

Remember one game on Ellada when I have just massacred enemy heavies because of my concealment and Chieftain/T95 only spotted me after getting as close as 150m and taking three shots from me on approach

[hard cedar]

Ellada?

[solid gate]

though that was SU-130PM, but you get the point

#concealmentmatters

[solid gate]

that Ancient Greek Ruins map

[valid gale]

That’s hellas

[solid gate]

Ah, I knew I got its name wrong
can't care enough to memorize them properly

[valid gale]

And this is just a plain nato woodlands camo

[hard cedar]

Hey at least it has insignia

[solid gate]

not that any other tank has it to make it plain in blitz

[valid gale]

I can kinda see it happening considering the BC is blue and the 50 B is of a brownish gray and the Foch being black but I feel thats a waste of a legendary skin

[solid gate]

I dunno I wouldn't be against something calm like that, maybe WG can take some liberty and add some number on it

how to play vk 100.01 with the gun with shit dispersion

angle and pray enemy won't go for your lower plate

[valid gale]

They do to all legendary camos tho

[solid gate]

but dispersion means every shot i fire misses

[valid gale]

Ironically all legendary ones have the tanks nations flag on it rather than the default model

It’s not a bad color scheme but copying it directly would be a waste id like to see their own spin on the scheme

[solid gate]

Yeah, but maaaaaybe they can go as far as to-

[valid gale]

That’s more in the attachment area not skin

[solid gate]

I mean Sheri got skin+attachment?

[valid gale]

Most tier 10s have attachments which is just some boxes a search light and a fire extinguisher on the turret or Hull the Sheri is the only one that has a laser sight (agent is an exception as it can’t be obtained anymore)

[solid gate]

BP Case for agent though?

[valid gale]

If you get lucky

[solid gate]

Yeah, it is still possible, for free too.

Also, is U-Panzer included in this operations case?

And is it okay that out of all vehicles in the crate I want to get the T26E3 the most?

my favorite tank

[soft urchin]

does anyone know if there are other tanks that are preferred mm like pzb2

[kind falcon]

only valentine II

[solid gate]

M-V-YOH or T110E5 or Wz-113?

[plucky summit]

M-V-Yoh

[solid gate]

Ok thanks

[solid gate]

Isn't V Yoh tier IX?

[grand linden]

M6yoh for sure

[solid gate]

I meant VI, I just didn't notice it

[hollow moth]

Have barely no experience fighting 113, neither played it.
E5 stills solid, but isn't meta anymore.
M-VI-Yoh is the new meta.

[dull plover]

Panther II or Cent. I?

[hard cedar]

both are good ways to torture yourself

[willow seal]

Lmao, neither. Both are oversized with bad mobility, bad armor and painfully subpar guns. I guess Cent1 has 10⁰ of gun depression so it's very slightly better.
If playing the Panther 2 is like slamming your head against a brick wall then playing Cent 1 is like slamming it against a wood wall.

[boreal spruce]

panther over the cent. but both are nasty

[dull plover]

Alright…

[violet timber]

Panther is much better than the Cent, but if you're looking for a tier 8 tech tree med, STA is always available

[copper swan]

have fun pain grinding

[violet timber]

STA-1 is worth it :)

[past crane]

Panther II is ok, armor is good against <180 pen guns and has nice DPM. It’s just kinda sluggish. Great ramming tank though, the Panther II on the whole is much better than the Cent.

[violet timber]

The Panther is quite good overall, 2nd best tier 7 med just after the Drac

Better armor, and a much better gun

[boreal spruce]

cough Comet cough🤣

[hollow notch]

T34 1 ._.

[boreal spruce]

T-34 85 Rudy

[dull plover]

Not interested with Japanese meds, I only asked for panther 2 or cent I

[thorny smelt]

Panther II is a concrete medium tank

[past crane]

Panther II>Cent 1 but if you want a fun T8 med just get the T-44.

[dull plover]

I currently have it, T7 struggle to penetrate my turret armor

[past crane]

Noice

[copper swan]

Cent 1 is not bad tbh
thick turret decent speed good and accurate gun

[quaint gust]

Is there maintenance going on because I can’t connect to the servers

[solid gate]

cough 142 pen cough

also mfw Bretange Panther gun mantlet is as armored as Cent 5/1's one

[rain venture]

does lttb have good turret armor? my internet is tooo slow to show the wot inspector

can anyone show me

[scarlet kernel]

imagine the pain if WG put the real stats of the E100 turret

[solid gate]

Amx 50B is good nowadays or there are better autoloaders heavies to take?

[manic carbon]

It is still a solid option

[solid gate]

Ok thank you

[solid gate]

should i get is-7 or is-4

[radiant coral]

IS-4 recommended

[violet timber]

IS-7 is better now

[solid gate]

yeah thats why idk

[violet timber]

Get IS-7, the grind is better as well as the tank now

[radiant coral]

IS-4 is easier to play and forgives more

[violet timber]

Not really, IS-7 now has better armor and you don’t have to worry about angling making it easier to play

[radiant coral]

Then it’s your Playstyle u feel comfortable with it

[solid gate]

lower plate kinda pokes out more tho on is-7

[radiant coral]

It does

[violet timber]

It’s easy to hide the lower plate

[solid gate]

yeah ppl said that with obj252u

wz easier to hide

[violet timber]

The only thing the IS-4 has over the IS-7 now is prammo penetration

[solid gate]

gonna get is-4

[violet timber]

I guess if you want a bad grind followed by a tank that’s now worse than it’s brother, have fun

[solid gate]

just need 250k more free exp

then i have free expef the whole line

[solid gate]

Yoh seems better tbh

What advantages does T57 Heavy have over other autoloading heavies out there?

I mean, as far as I can understand, it is M-VI-Yoh for all-round performance, AMX 50 B (isn't it actually surbaissé?) for mobility, Kranvagn for turret armor and autoreloader, but what about T57 Heavy?

[thick trout]

Higher clip potential with the same dpm as the yohs 3 shot, and dpm over all the other clippers

[violet timber]

Interclip advantage

[brave night]

T57 has a bit better armor than 50b and it earns the 2.5 interclip but it’s a bit slower

[untold moss]

But all of those tier X tank (T57, Yoh, AMX50B, Kran) is sometime always point their gun up....

[final adder]

is-7

only thing is-4 really has over is-7 now is heat

[solid gate]

T57 is going to be made smaller in upcoming update according to RU server's 8.4 open test announcement

[sleek glade]

Is-7 side armor is like a pseudo black hole now

[solid gate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/481758963936002050/890227064395939850/screen_shot_2021-09-22_at_13.png

[onyx sluice]

The M2 light is a curious tank for the PBR textures.

[solid gate]

indeed

Now that I think of it, should I purchase T57 Heavy or IS-7..?

[manic echo]

is7

its practically buy is7 now, its armor profile is buffed insanely texture wise.

[stray verge]

Tips for the Pershing?

[copper swan]

Ammorack: NO

[manic echo]

ignoring the ammorack goddamit

[thorny smelt]

They should also buff T110E5 LOL. I easily set its engine into flames and ammo racked it

[copper swan]

Yes pls drive your IS 7 in front of my E3

[manic echo]

man its 2021, the is7 got a buff and its still gettin dumped with words for being the most ammoracked tank in the game

[solid gate]

T57 is gonna get buffed next update tho

[manic echo]

for now

[lavish zealot]

What's better the T-34 or KV-1?

[pallid elbow]

I think it's the KV 1

[lavish zealot]

Why?

[pallid elbow]

KV 1 don't gets penetrated by 152mm HE from this tank

Also this one

[lavish zealot]

So Kv 1 is the better option?

[pallid elbow]

Probably yes

But it's gun need more time to reload

[torpid cypress]

VK72 needs a dpm buff :/
so slow and gun is also inaccurate 😦
the side has no armor ,,,,
cmon WG , this tank is really hard to play.
buff something on this pls

[hollow moth]

Skip it ASAP, it's known to be one of the least liked mediums in tier 8

[hard cedar]

that's not a viable option for most players

[violet timber]

Persh isn't actually that bad, just gotta stay hull down

[solid gate]

how about making t-28 mod. 1940 a heavy, a bit slower and add some armor? it just doesnt fit for a medium

[hollow moth]

T-28 is not a heavy, it's a medium tank that wasn't made to destroy other tanks after all. It was supposed to clear trenches and support infantry, made on WW1 standards.

[hollow moth]

I suppose you want something like this, T-35 Heavy.

[solid gate]

Kind of

[west rapids]

Free exp get Patton ASAP

[hollow moth]

That is a real tank in WOT if I remember well, but it's surely in WT

[lavish zealot]

What's better the T-34 or KV-1?

[hollow moth]

Both are too different to compare, but trust me, both are lame tier 5 tanks. Go for the KV-1, it'll help you to learn how to angle your tank.

[violet timber]

KV-1 leads to IS-7, go KV-1

[lavish zealot]

Okee

[hollow moth]

Btw, IS-7 became meta?

[violet timber]

IS-7 is now better than the IS-4 lol

[hollow moth]

Pog, all the IS-4 mains might be crying

[hollow moth]

This didn't age well

[violet timber]

It was at one point

[hollow moth]

Still, didn't age well

[hard cedar]

Is-4 is still relevant

[stray verge]

I don’t have enough free Xp to skip it and not enough money to buy the m46. Since skipping it isn’t an option, I need help playing it.

[hollow moth]

Your only way to block damage is by doing hull down and taking advantage of your GD. Don't trust it's gun, it's kinda of anemic, but workable against lighter targets

[royal charm]

Tips for 50TP plz

[charred perch]

I unlocked it too

[plucky summit]

It's 50TP...

[royal charm]

Oh you are right

[humble escarp]

I can't do it .. :'c

[royal charm]

Tips for 50TP

[plucky summit]

Play like an IS-8 with a chunkier gun, really

[charred perch]

Play it like a med I think

[boreal spruce]

play it like a M103 with a big gun and strong turret

or a ST-1 with a small turret and speed
@royal charm

[violet timber]

Or like an IS-8

[slender cliff]

How much armor does the 50tp have?

[kindred wren]

Depends where you shoot it

Anything from ricochet to bounce to easy pen

Bouncing shots will only work against people with poor RNG or rushed aim

[violet timber]

It’s overall pretty good, but then there’s the drivers viewport

[boreal spruce]

strong turret, weak hull.
similar to american heavys

[slender cliff]

@kindred wren @violet timber @boreal spruce by weak hull, do you guys mean only the drivers viewport? Also how effective is the spaced armor on the sides?

[boreal spruce]

the hull has troll moments, but in close quarters its weak, and it has a massive weakspot (drivers viewport) the Turret is great but again has a cupola so don't stay still or it will get shot. Hulldown tactics are the best.

the spaced armour helps with side scraping but the overall sides are weak

[slender cliff]

I see, thanks for the info

[boreal spruce]

no worries the playstyle is similar for the whole Polish Tech Tree too BTW (60TP, 53 TP, etc)

[kindred wren]

Driver port, cheeks left and right of the driver port and the lower plate, also the sidearmour (sidescraping is not advised or only at very steep angles)